1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio. 2 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:07,720 Speaker 2: And welcome back to Coast to Coast. George Nori with you, 3 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 2: Matthew James Bailey with us. Matthew, what is fueling the 4 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 2: growth of artificial intelligence? What's behind it? 5 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 3: That's a great question. Well, I think it's I mean, 6 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 3: humanity has been given a special capability above the animals, 7 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:25,760 Speaker 3: which is a cerebral cortex. It's able and a brain 8 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:29,640 Speaker 3: that's able to invent tools and to be able to 9 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 3: create if you will. And so as a natural expression 10 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 3: of any species in the universe, they will move from 11 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:42,960 Speaker 3: the basics of using wood inter metals into developing some 12 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:47,280 Speaker 3: kind of computing devices and developing some kind of automation 13 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 3: and even inventing something in the reflection of what it is. 14 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 2: Right. 15 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 3: So, I think artificial intelligence is a natural phenomenon that 16 00:00:57,040 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 3: happens throughout all species in the universe where they head 17 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 3: towards what we call the technology singularity, where they have 18 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:08,959 Speaker 3: an alternate intelligence that is able to assist with the 19 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:16,039 Speaker 3: intelligence of the incumbent species like us humans. Now for me, George, 20 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 3: I I believe, in fact, actually I understand that there 21 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 3: is a there is a divine order to everything that 22 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 3: happens within humanity. We are loved and we are cherished, 23 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 3: and the source is a master chess player. And so 24 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 3: artificial intelligence is a mirror back to us for us 25 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:42,959 Speaker 3: to remember who we are, That we are universal in nature, 26 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 3: we are universal in design. We are not just biological 27 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 3: material beings, but we are metaphysical beings too, and that 28 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 3: we are precious and life is precious. So I think 29 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 3: there's a natural order within the universe because the universe 30 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 3: is intelligence unpacking intelligence, and so AI is kind of 31 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 3: a universal phenomenon where we're unpacking if you like, the 32 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:13,920 Speaker 3: development of an intelligence, because that's universal in nature. So 33 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:17,799 Speaker 3: AI is there for us to remember who we are, 34 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 3: for us to wake up, for us to enter into 35 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:24,839 Speaker 3: a new era of enlightenment. A bit like what Aristotle 36 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 3: wrote back in three point fifty BCE. A wonderful man 37 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:30,800 Speaker 3: of science, a wonderful man of politics, but also a 38 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 3: big proponent of the superhuman, the divine intellect and the 39 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 3: metaphysical aspect of who we are. Science and metaphysics go together. 40 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:43,639 Speaker 3: So what's driving artificial intelligence is I believe that there's 41 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 3: an underlying universal force to create intelligence. Now, what's driving 42 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:55,919 Speaker 3: in the materialist world is actually primarily materialist values, which 43 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:58,920 Speaker 3: is based on the dollar, which is based on the 44 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 3: false paradigm of power. You know, we've just had Davos 45 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:06,800 Speaker 3: with the so called self proclaimed kings of creation that 46 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:10,119 Speaker 3: basically think they're better than humanity, which is utter nonsense, 47 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:14,080 Speaker 3: and thankfully they're crumbling and thankfully the President gave a 48 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:20,799 Speaker 3: great speech at Davos. So I for me, there are 49 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 3: these different drivers in place and for the invitation for us, George, 50 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:28,639 Speaker 3: that are enlightened and for your audience is how can 51 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 3: we use artificial intelligence in the highest benevolent fashion. How 52 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 3: can we use it to uplift the poor? How can 53 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 3: we uplift those that don't have housing, How can we 54 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 3: use AI for people to create meaning? And these are 55 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 3: new wealth values that were starting to I think waken 56 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 3: up to that is beyond the dollar. And so for me, 57 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 3: there's these different drivers in AI. And so what we 58 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 3: want to do is to intercept what the divine plan 59 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 3: is behind this, which is what our group's trying to do, 60 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 3: and then basically build use artificial intelligence and build new 61 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 3: civilization infrastructure where AI is operating in the highest benevolent 62 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 3: actions for everyone to be lifted up. 63 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:16,599 Speaker 2: And what's so amazing in these days now, Matthew, is 64 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 2: even through your computer browser, you can talk into your smartphone. 65 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 2: You don't have to type it in anymore, and just 66 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 2: ask him the question and it finds the answer for you. 67 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:28,720 Speaker 2: It's amazing. 68 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 1: It is. 69 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 3: By the way, your advert on the Chrome browser was 70 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 3: absolutely on the money. The advice from that gentleman was 71 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 3: absolutely on the money. Don't use the Gemini Chrome browser 72 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 3: because you will hijack your data and you don't know 73 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 3: what it's going to do. But it's amazing. And we 74 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 3: spoke about this actually, George, I think on the first 75 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 3: show that I came on where I spoke about voice, 76 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:57,160 Speaker 3: about actually taking us away from screens into a softer, 77 00:04:57,360 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 3: more gentler experience with technology, which through voice, and that 78 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 3: voice technology has evolved tremendously since we first spoke a 79 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 3: couple of years ago, from being kind of clunky to 80 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 3: being very seamless now where it can actually be someone 81 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 3: else's voice and no one's speaking to the real George Noory, 82 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:19,600 Speaker 3: not the AI George. Where it can mimic voices pretty well, 83 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 3: where it can create songs right, and so you know, 84 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:27,679 Speaker 3: we're heading into this exponential paradigm where AI will start 85 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 3: to evolve, and the big question is where are we 86 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 3: heading as a human species in the ultimate benevolent expression 87 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:39,919 Speaker 3: of who we are? And how can AI fit into that? 88 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:42,799 Speaker 3: And that's what our World three group is all about. 89 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:47,040 Speaker 2: George, have you used Alexa from Amazon? Oh? 90 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:49,239 Speaker 3: I use it all the time. It's brilliant, It's. 91 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:52,159 Speaker 2: Amazing, and you can keep literally now carry on a 92 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 2: conversation with the thing. 93 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. 94 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:57,600 Speaker 3: Absolutely so I use I speak to chat GBT all 95 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 3: the time when I'm out on walks in NY and 96 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 3: things like that, because I get all sorts of inspirations 97 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:06,279 Speaker 3: and I love being able to communicate with it. But 98 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:09,719 Speaker 3: I also when I develop new intellectual properties. So for example, 99 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:14,720 Speaker 3: I've just written the mathematics for ethical AI, never been 100 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:18,799 Speaker 3: done before, and it's currently being reviewed by Sir Robert 101 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 3: Edward Grant, who is the polymath of our time at 102 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 3: the human race, and so effectively, you know, I use 103 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 3: all these different tools voice interacting to actually discuss these 104 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 3: advanced methodologies, these new advanced mathematics that I'm coming up 105 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 3: with to validate it. And I find that very very useful, right, 106 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 3: and you know, George, seventy percent of the people on 107 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:45,720 Speaker 3: our planet that are using chat GPT are using chat 108 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 3: GPT as a therapist. Now I'm not endorsing it or 109 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:54,920 Speaker 3: condoning it, but I've experimented with chat GPT as an 110 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 3: advisor on certain areas, George, and I've got to be 111 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 3: honest with you, it's not too shabby at all, particularly 112 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 3: around dream interpretation. It's extraordinary about that. How did you 113 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 3: come up with that? 114 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 1: That sounds pretty good? Really? 115 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 2: What's the downside Matthew to this? Is there any Well? 116 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 3: First of all, is that using the voice gives us 117 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 3: more energy in the body because we're not our eyes 118 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 3: aren't being tense with the screen, we're not using our fingers. 119 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 3: We're actually getting a thought and we're talking about it. 120 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 3: So we have more energy availability through the voice. And 121 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 3: so that's a good thing. I think are there downsides 122 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 3: to what to the voice or to AI or what? 123 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 3: What are you asking here? 124 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 2: Truly remarkable, it really is. Other countries Are they as 125 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 2: advanced as we are with AI? 126 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 3: No, I'll tell you what. The Middle East to catch 127 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 3: you up, that's for sure. So number one in the 128 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:56,119 Speaker 3: world when it comes to the United States, the United 129 00:07:56,160 --> 00:08:00,120 Speaker 3: States and number one in artificial intelligence by a long way. 130 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 3: The press their way ahead. The United States controlled the 131 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 3: latest AI chip designs. That's why we had the Chips 132 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 3: Act to ensure that manufacturing of AI chips, the latest 133 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 3: one stayed within the borders of the United States. China 134 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 3: is probably number two, but they're certainly behind the United 135 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 3: States of America. Europe is certainly starting to become a 136 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 3: player in AI, but it'll be in a different way. 137 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 3: But what we're seeing, George is huge investment in the 138 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 3: Middle East. So the UAE, believe it or not, have 139 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:37,840 Speaker 3: just announced a new large language model that's completely open source. 140 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:43,959 Speaker 3: The Saudi Arabians are investing in a five hundred megawatt 141 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:49,840 Speaker 3: AI supercomputer data center. Now the US I think it 142 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 3: consumes about a trillion what's just over trillion, what's of 143 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 3: energy per year? 144 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:54,839 Speaker 1: Right? 145 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:59,080 Speaker 3: That is generating right, five hundred megawatts? 146 00:08:59,559 --> 00:08:59,839 Speaker 2: Right? 147 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 3: Is you know is a significant chunk of that are 148 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 3: maybe wrong on a trillion, it's a lot, but final 149 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:11,960 Speaker 3: with the megawatts is a significant amount of any country's 150 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:17,080 Speaker 3: energy grid to support these data centers. And so what 151 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 3: we're seeing is the Middle East, because they've primarily been 152 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 3: reliant on oil and really don't have any kind of 153 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:27,200 Speaker 3: import or export type of types of products. They're now 154 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 3: moving into AI technology to become a powerhouse in the 155 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:34,440 Speaker 3: world by investing huge amounts of money. When we look 156 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 3: into places like North Africa, Egypt and other places like that, 157 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 3: they are certainly on catch up, but certainly doing something 158 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 3: in AI. When we move through the further through Africa, 159 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 3: then there's they've still got a long way to go. 160 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 3: The same also in Asia with Vietnam and Thailand and 161 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:57,960 Speaker 3: other places around there, Sri Lanka, they're still quite behind. 162 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 3: But India itself is actually also becoming a powerhouse and 163 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 3: the majority of AI kind of outsourcing from the US 164 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 3: and others is in India, and so India are becoming 165 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:14,839 Speaker 3: kind of the AI developers of the world, George. If 166 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:17,840 Speaker 3: we head down into Australia, they're kind of on par 167 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:21,319 Speaker 3: with europecause the Europe and the same with Canada. When 168 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:23,959 Speaker 3: we look at Japan, Japan has a strong relationship to 169 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 3: the US, so Japan are actually at the forefront of AI, 170 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 3: probably ahead of Europe. So actually we're seeing different paces, George, 171 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 3: in different nations around the world in AI. But the 172 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:40,320 Speaker 3: US by far is number one. 173 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 2: Matthew, do you see the day where AI might have 174 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 2: a motion. 175 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 3: Well, first of all, let's be clear AI does not 176 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 3: have consciousness and it does not have a so al 177 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 3: and AI will probably never have consciousness. And let me 178 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:58,080 Speaker 3: explain why. If we look at the work of Sir 179 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:03,200 Speaker 3: Roger Penrose, who is a genus mathematition and cosmologists, he 180 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 3: basically has made a really good statement, which is consciousness 181 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:10,840 Speaker 3: is a quantum mechanical phenomenon. And so in order for 182 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 3: us to even grasp what consciousness is, we have to 183 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 3: understand quantum mechanics, which we do not understand today. Really, 184 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 3: we have theories, and we have things are observation through 185 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:25,079 Speaker 3: the double split experiment and things like your cat right 186 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 3: extrodin this cat, but we haven't got a grass of 187 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:30,679 Speaker 3: quantum mechanics. So until we grasp quantum mechanics, we will 188 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 3: not be able to even understand what consciousness is. Although George, 189 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:37,200 Speaker 3: you and I and those in the audience listening, we 190 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 3: are conscious beings. We know consciousness is in action. So 191 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 3: AI will never have consciousness because we've got a huge 192 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:47,679 Speaker 3: breakthrough in quantum mechanics as needed, it certainly won't incorporate 193 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 3: the soul, because the human design and other types of 194 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:55,960 Speaker 3: designs on other planets throughout the universe have been designed 195 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 3: specifically for the soul. So let's get that clear today. 196 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:04,440 Speaker 3: Will AI ever be able to feel? I suspect it won't, 197 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:09,960 Speaker 3: but it can mimic emotions, George, because AI has never lived, 198 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:14,079 Speaker 3: It's never understood pain, it's never fallen in love. He 199 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 3: basically has no emotional if you like sensory architecture. So 200 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 3: I don't feel that AI will be able to feel emotion, 201 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:27,719 Speaker 3: but I think it will be able to be empathetic. Well, 202 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:32,319 Speaker 3: it'll be able to mimic emotion, George, at a certain level. 203 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 2: Truly remarkable, It really is. What does the future hold 204 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:42,080 Speaker 2: ten to fifteen years from now, Matthew. 205 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 3: So, So, first of all is that if you remember 206 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 3: when we release the show on Gaio, I talked about 207 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 3: the World three think Tank, and I've actually announced that 208 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 3: World three think Tank with Sir Robert Edward Grant, John P. Milton, 209 00:12:56,880 --> 00:12:59,720 Speaker 3: who's the founder of the Global Ecology Movement, helping us 210 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:03,440 Speaker 3: to that nature itself is a beautiful experience and we 211 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 3: can learn from nature as well as doctors JJ and 212 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 3: Desero a Hertek. So we've launched a think tank. We're 213 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 3: actually launched a number of projects that are basically tactical 214 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:20,960 Speaker 3: civilization strategies, such as moving from centralized AI into decentralized AI. 215 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:25,439 Speaker 3: So we're actually kind of building this new civilization momentum. 216 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 3: And what I think is going to happen over the 217 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:30,679 Speaker 3: next ten to fifteen years is exactly what I presented 218 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 3: at Guier Immersion on the graph of how AI is 219 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:36,439 Speaker 3: going to evolve and how humans are going to evolve, 220 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:40,959 Speaker 3: and I were heading towards a civilization split, George, And 221 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 3: what I sense is happening is that as we go 222 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:48,200 Speaker 3: into simulated AGI, which will be next year, and into 223 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 3: AGI probably five three to five years later we knew 224 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 3: world models, then the world will start to really see 225 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:59,839 Speaker 3: that there is this new intelligence on our planet. So 226 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 3: that will put the shiver through people. People will have 227 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:06,560 Speaker 3: deep questions about the meaning of reality, and so there 228 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 3: will be a huge awakening and so people will basically 229 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:12,200 Speaker 3: make a choice. It's like, well, actually, I'll remember that 230 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 3: I'm a universal human, I have the divine spark, and 231 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:17,440 Speaker 3: I want to be in a civilization where that is 232 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 3: honored and that is thrived, which is what we're doing 233 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 3: with the civilization stuff. The others, the materialists who do 234 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 3: not believe or do not understand that we're in a universal, 235 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 3: beautiful design that were in volve, that were part of 236 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 3: consciousness and intelligence, they will move into extreme transhumanism, which 237 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 3: is effectively seeking salvation in the machine, seeking God in 238 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 3: the machine, outsourcing evolution of the human to the machine. 239 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 3: And that's when we'll start to have neuralink type of 240 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 3: brain implants that were connected to the global centralized AI mind, 241 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 3: which will be a huge disaster for our evolution because 242 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 3: the divine did not plan that. So we'll heading to 243 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 3: this civilization split where we'll have those that are basically 244 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 3: connected to the global hive mind, and we'll have those 245 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 3: that are in enlightenment that are evolving in this new 246 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 3: plane of consciousness and AI is a partner. Now, what 247 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 3: we will have, George, is a whole middle ground of 248 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 3: people that are kind of saying, well, actually, I'm not 249 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 3: really a materialist, but I'm curious about enlightenment. And so 250 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 3: we'll see a huge middle trash of people moving towards 251 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 3: either transhumanism or the enlightenment. But there's no doubt about it, 252 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 3: George we're heading towards a civilization split. 253 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 2: Matthew, you mentioned data centers. Why are so many communities 254 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 2: up in arms so upset about these data centers that 255 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 2: are cropping up all over the place. 256 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, so I think they should be actually, George, So 257 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 3: we need to be very mindful that we are part 258 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 3: of the Earth's environment and we have a responsibility to 259 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 3: nourish the local ecosystems, the ecosystems of the planet, and 260 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 3: so when these big data centers come in, we have 261 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 3: to look at what is the effect on the local environment. 262 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 3: They draw a huge amount of water, they draw a 263 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 3: huge amount of energy. In fact, actually some of these 264 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 3: data centers, George, are going to be powered by coal 265 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 3: plants or other types of power plants that are dedicated 266 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 3: purely for the data centers. And so people are up 267 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 3: in arms because it's these new power plants being built. 268 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 3: There's a big draw on the water resources, and so 269 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 3: people are naturally concerned about, well, what is the local 270 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 3: environmental impact on all this, And those are reasonable questions 271 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 3: to ask. 272 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 1: Listen to more Coast to Coast AM every weeknight at 273 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:52,479 Speaker 1: one a m Eastern and go to Coast to COOASTAM 274 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 1: dot com for more