1 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:07,720 Speaker 1: What's up you guys are listening to a Velvet's Edge podcast. 2 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:10,719 Speaker 1: I'm here with one of my friends, Kimberally nov a Cell, 3 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 1: and um, we actually know each other through the fitness community. 4 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 1: We've collaborated a bit with ealvets Dead and some other 5 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 1: companies you worked for, so that's how we met. And 6 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:23,160 Speaker 1: I noticed a post you did on Instagram a couple 7 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:25,640 Speaker 1: of weeks ago that really stuck out to me. You 8 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 1: do a lot of motivational things on your Instagram. What 9 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 1: is your Instagram just that people can go with it's 10 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:31,320 Speaker 1: my name, Kim really know a sell Okay, I can 11 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:34,280 Speaker 1: really know a Cell And she post a lot of 12 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:36,519 Speaker 1: things that are motivating, kind of talking through her experience 13 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 1: as a business owner and um, just life in general. 14 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:44,159 Speaker 1: And you posted something about imposter syndrome, and that really 15 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:46,160 Speaker 1: really spoke to me because I feel like it's something 16 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:49,639 Speaker 1: that I've dealt with a lot, just beginning to own 17 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:52,839 Speaker 1: my own business and working for myself. And just as 18 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 1: you get older, I think a lot of times people 19 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 1: look at you and say, like, oh, you're an expert 20 00:00:57,640 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 1: at this. I hate the word expert. Stressed me out, 21 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 1: so so I want to read that post and then 22 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 1: we can kind of get into what impostor syndrome is 23 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 1: and maybe some tips on like how you've overcomme it, 24 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:11,479 Speaker 1: because I think that's really interesting, so kimberally said. Um. 25 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 1: Over the past year or so, my confidence took a 26 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:17,039 Speaker 1: hit after a hit, as criticism and rejection piled up 27 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 1: on me. As I began to question myself, I let 28 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 1: all the other negative voices in. I gave them power 29 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:26,119 Speaker 1: with some of this perceived yes, was much of it lies? Yes? 30 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 1: Am I still healing just a little. What made me 31 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:33,039 Speaker 1: determine to rise instead of remain among the rebel was knowing, 32 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 1: at the solid ensure core of what had become a 33 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:38,319 Speaker 1: broken heart, that I am worthy, I am talented, I 34 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 1: am important. I have something you need to offer, and 35 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 1: offering it is entirely up to me. My imperfections don't 36 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 1: have to be annihilated. They just have to be separated 37 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 1: from the idea that they're the same as weaknesses. And 38 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 1: just as Burnee Brown says, I love Renee Brown, just 39 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 1: as Burnee Brown says, as my self, acceptance continues to streathen, 40 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 1: my sense of belonging returns. If you're juggling with feeling 41 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 1: like you belong or with imposter syndrome or finding your 42 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 1: courage or confidence. Know this, it's not easy, but it 43 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 1: is in your own hands. Don't let anyone take it 44 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 1: away from you. You are beautiful in precious thing. Um. 45 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 1: So okay, we looked at the definition of impostor syndrome, 46 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 1: so we'll start with that. And this is from Wikipedia, 47 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:23,519 Speaker 1: and this I so identify with this. Oh my god, 48 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 1: this is crazy. Okay, it says imposter syndromeme is a 49 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 1: psychological pattern in which an individual doubts their accomplishments and 50 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 1: has a persistent internalized fear of being exposed as toraud 51 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:38,519 Speaker 1: as a fraud, despite external evidence of their confidence. Those 52 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:42,080 Speaker 1: experienced this experiencing this phenomenon remain connenced that they are 53 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:44,959 Speaker 1: frauds and do not deserve all that they have achieved. 54 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 1: Individuals with imposterism and incorrectly attribute their success to luck 55 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:52,640 Speaker 1: or as a result of deceding others into thinking they 56 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 1: are more intelligent than they perceive themselves to be. So 57 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 1: it's real, and I think it's so interesting because when 58 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 1: I think of you, I think of you as a 59 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:05,640 Speaker 1: super successful, motivated you always are, you know, like starting 60 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 1: these new businesses are so creative. So what, like, what 61 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 1: is your experience with imposter syndrome? Yeah, it's all Ye. 62 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:16,800 Speaker 1: The time that it really started to rise for me 63 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 1: was when I began to lead more people. So with 64 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 1: one of my earlier businesses, it was myself and a 65 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 1: business partner and then we'd have maybe an interner and 66 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 1: assistant kind of in and out. Uh. And it was 67 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 1: when I opened a business that had a team of 68 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 1: like twenty people and a lot of them reported to 69 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 1: me and I was one of the owners that I 70 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 1: started to feel like all of my imperfections were suddenly 71 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 1: in this spotlight. Yeah, and it just devolved from there. Yeah. 72 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 1: I mean that's totally about my experience too. I think 73 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 1: once Velvet's Edge started, I was like, oh, ship, because 74 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 1: then you have people working for you, you have these 75 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 1: responsibilities to put yourself out there in all these ways. 76 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 1: There's really nowhere to hide, right, and you see everything 77 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 1: that you don't like about yourself be kind of able 78 00:03:57,880 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 1: to live with on a day to day basis when 79 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 1: no one else sees it. Suddenly all this stuff is 80 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 1: like right in front of you and you have to 81 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 1: face it, and it is terrible. It's terrible. I think 82 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 1: For me. Another thing was like the need for me 83 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 1: to have to show up every day, like not just 84 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 1: like go to an officer or go to a job. 85 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:18,160 Speaker 1: I was doing that before, but to be present enough 86 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:21,719 Speaker 1: to put myself out there every day. That's not easy. 87 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 1: So immediately you can feel like, oh god, they're going 88 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 1: to figure me out, you know. Yeah, I read that 89 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 1: it causes some people to work even harder, like basically 90 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 1: comes in line with like a workaholic type of habit therapy. 91 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 1: And that was true for me to where I was 92 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 1: working around the clock and I had I had lost 93 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 1: boundaries against where I needed some self care, where I 94 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 1: needed time away because I felt like the more I 95 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 1: worked and the more I was able to accomplish, the 96 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 1: less likely people would be able to criticize me or 97 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 1: see where I was like failing them. So like, what 98 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 1: were you deal? I mean, if you don't mind sharing, 99 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 1: like what were some of the insecurity is that you 100 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 1: were feeling with this? Like what were people going to 101 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 1: find out about you? I mean, it's so silly because 102 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:07,279 Speaker 1: I also at the same time you know that stuff 103 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:09,720 Speaker 1: is not true, right while you're afraid of it, at 104 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:11,480 Speaker 1: the same time, you know that you're really good at 105 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 1: what you do. It's like this internal conflict. But things 106 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 1: like I'm not always immediately receptive to other people's ideas. Okay, 107 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:22,480 Speaker 1: I'm I'm an idea of person, and so when somebody 108 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:25,160 Speaker 1: comes to me and says, how about this, it might 109 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 1: be a great idea, and I might come around to it, 110 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:29,280 Speaker 1: but my immediate reaction is always kind of to put 111 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:32,039 Speaker 1: up this wall of like no, uh or I don't 112 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:34,040 Speaker 1: want to listen, And then a few days later I 113 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 1: might come back to them and say, like, hey, I 114 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 1: love what we were talking about, and I'd really like 115 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 1: to probably like put that into place. Um. But that 116 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:42,119 Speaker 1: was something I didn't have to deal with before because 117 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 1: I didn't have to hear the people's ideas before. Right, 118 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 1: only working for yourself or like to do one specific job, 119 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 1: you don't have to be open or be collaborative as much, 120 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 1: and said not that that's not true, Like that was 121 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:58,720 Speaker 1: something I needed to work on, and I was absolutely 122 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 1: willing to work on it, and yet was constantly afraid 123 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:03,479 Speaker 1: that people were just going to be like I'm happy 124 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:06,279 Speaker 1: with me, um, like kind of not giving the grace 125 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:09,599 Speaker 1: to figure out how to do that better. Yeah, I 126 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 1: think when you're in a boss. Let's I guess if 127 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 1: you want to call it position. Um, it's similar Like 128 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 1: for me, a lot of times with hair, makeup, are 129 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 1: wardrobes have people use the term expert, right, And that 130 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 1: is so stressful to me because although I do this 131 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:29,839 Speaker 1: every day and I do know a lot of things, 132 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 1: in my mind, on a bad day, I'm like, I'm 133 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 1: not an expert. I'm just figuring this ship out as 134 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:37,719 Speaker 1: I go, you know, And that's what everyone is doing, 135 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 1: is what I've realized. But I think when people someone 136 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 1: puts you in that category, for me, it triggers a 137 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 1: lot of my perfectionism, which I know you've talked about too, 138 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:50,479 Speaker 1: into thinking like, oh god, I better come with some 139 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 1: I better come with the perfect answer, the perfect thing, 140 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:57,159 Speaker 1: the perfect solution for whatever problem they're having, or they're 141 00:06:57,160 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 1: going to figure me out right, and it's awful. Is 142 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 1: like you are an expert. I don't think of myself 143 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 1: at that way. And you know, on one hand, you 144 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:06,719 Speaker 1: could say like, oh, you're being humble and that's great, 145 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 1: but that could be your impostor syndrome player is And 146 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 1: what you need to do is look at yourself and 147 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 1: all the work you put in over how many years 148 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 1: now and recognize like, oh, you actually are an expert 149 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 1: and that doesn't have to mean that you're flawless. That's 150 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 1: that's exactly right. Yeah, because I always I put the 151 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:26,559 Speaker 1: two together like if I'm an expert, I should never 152 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 1: make a mistake, and we all see that. Yeah, that's unrealistic. 153 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, So what have you done? I mean, 154 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 1: are there I feel like, well, let's first, let's go 155 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 1: back to perfectionism, because you mentioned that as being a 156 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 1: huge part of your imposter syndrome, and that's something that 157 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 1: I really really deal with. Yeah, there are different types 158 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 1: of imposter syndrome, but one of them is really closely 159 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 1: tied to perfectionism particularly, and I think I feel like 160 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 1: that's where mine comes from. That I was afraid to 161 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 1: make a mistake. Um, if I did, I would overcorrect. 162 00:07:57,440 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 1: What do you mean? Like if you is said deadline 163 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 1: on something, then the next week you're clarifying deadlines with people, 164 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 1: You're turning stuff in early, like you're overworking and you're 165 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 1: over worrying about doing it again, so you overcor and 166 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 1: do all of the This is so funny that, I mean, 167 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 1: it's interesting to learn. Yeah, So you overcorrect, overcorrect, and 168 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 1: so I found myself doing that out of fear, you know, 169 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 1: trying to fix the problem, and like literally never do 170 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 1: it again. Yeah. And it's just so unhealthy to like 171 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 1: to work that way into how your motivation be like 172 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 1: these negative things. Yeah, I call it below the line. 173 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 1: So like the low the line is anything that's negative, 174 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:37,320 Speaker 1: and above the line is anything positive. So the same 175 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 1: action or the same thing you say could come from 176 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:44,440 Speaker 1: either place. Um, So explain more. Yeah, I'm trying to 177 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 1: grasp what you're saying. But okay, So it's the same thought, 178 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 1: the same thought, or the same action. And if the 179 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:54,200 Speaker 1: motivation or if the underlying whatever is negative, I call 180 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:56,840 Speaker 1: that below the line. Um. And if it's positive, it's 181 00:08:56,880 --> 00:08:58,720 Speaker 1: above the line. So if you're working really hard to 182 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 1: meet a deadline because you respect the person who you 183 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 1: owe that work too, because you love your job, and 184 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 1: because you understand that deadlines are you know, sort of 185 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 1: contractive sorts, um, then that's above the line. You're doing 186 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 1: that for the right reasons. And if you're working hard 187 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 1: to meet that deadline because you missed one last week 188 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 1: and you absolutely refused to allow yourself to ever make 189 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 1: a mistake, then that's the local line negative motivation. Do 190 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:27,200 Speaker 1: you think a lot of people struggle with this? IM? Sure, Yeah. 191 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 1: I feel like there's two types of people. Like I'll 192 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:33,599 Speaker 1: see some people who almost seem like so confident in 193 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 1: their abilities to be like almost overly like that they 194 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 1: just know that they deserve certain things, which I have 195 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 1: great respect for because that is not how my brain works. Um. 196 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 1: But then I see, on the other hand, people yes, 197 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 1: who like I, have a lot of self doubt in 198 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:53,080 Speaker 1: their accomplishments. Are the big one for me from this 199 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 1: definition is like they attribute their success to love. I 200 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 1: say that all the time, Like how I how I 201 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 1: got certain clients. I say, Oh, I was just so 202 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:03,720 Speaker 1: lucky and I met them at the right time, you know. 203 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, it's like if 204 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 1: I wasn't doing the job, I wouldn't have that job, right, 205 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 1: So it's definitely discrediting my skill set or whatever I do. Yes, yeah, 206 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 1: Like do you think you have something unique to offer? 207 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 1: Do you think that person actually could do for a 208 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 1: reason and not just that you were standing in front 209 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:23,079 Speaker 1: of them when they needed to hire right that role? Right, 210 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:24,840 Speaker 1: I would be like, oh, I just isn't the right 211 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:28,720 Speaker 1: place right time. Yeah, and although most of those lanes 212 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:30,679 Speaker 1: for like eight or nine years, you know, so it's 213 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:32,960 Speaker 1: like you would get figured out, but it is a 214 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 1: constant thing in your head of like, oh god, they're 215 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:38,559 Speaker 1: gonna know that. I just I don't know that. I'm 216 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:40,960 Speaker 1: I don't have every answer all the time, and you 217 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:43,440 Speaker 1: don't and that's it doesn't have to come with us 218 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 1: here and that's that is like a hard battle and 219 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 1: it's not over for me. No, no, So what do 220 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 1: you do, like when you get sucked into those kind 221 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 1: of thoughts, like what are ways to kind of counteract 222 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 1: because mindset, Yeah, one for me was there was a 223 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 1: particular person on my team who kind of fed those voices. 224 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:03,560 Speaker 1: So even though it is an internal battle, and even 225 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:06,839 Speaker 1: though we're responsible for the power that we give to 226 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 1: any message that we're getting, and I was giving that 227 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 1: person's message as power, um, something that I would have 228 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 1: done in the future that I should have done in 229 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 1: this past situation is to recognize that that voice was 230 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 1: fueling this fire with me and to remove that from 231 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 1: from my circle. So, whether that was just dealing with 232 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 1: it and creating a better communication with that person or 233 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:29,199 Speaker 1: not being on the same team as that person. Um, 234 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:30,840 Speaker 1: that's something that I think I would want to do 235 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 1: next time that I didn't do to care for myself 236 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 1: because basically that person was triggering your own internal thoughts. 237 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:41,079 Speaker 1: But that person was constantly making me like second guests 238 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:43,079 Speaker 1: and the decisions I made, and I feel like that 239 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 1: was wrong and kind of overriding me or like I 240 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:49,080 Speaker 1: used the word bulldozing my decisions. Yeah, and really making 241 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 1: me feel like I wasn't qualified. Interesting. Um, what else? 242 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:55,840 Speaker 1: What are other Like? Is there anything you do on 243 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 1: a daily basis to kind of get yourself in a 244 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 1: non pastor syndrome and mindset. I've credits in better self 245 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:05,319 Speaker 1: care so that you know if that means like walking 246 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:08,680 Speaker 1: away from my phone, just having time that's away from work, 247 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 1: because that reminds me of like that I have a 248 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:13,960 Speaker 1: life outside of work. Yeah, it doesn't have to define 249 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 1: you ye And yeah it separates um some of the 250 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 1: feelings of work. And it builds your confidence too, because 251 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 1: you can be good at other things. Like if I 252 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 1: go for a hike, I remember how much I love 253 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:25,440 Speaker 1: being outside and how much I know about the outdoors. 254 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:28,200 Speaker 1: I have my Wilderness First Aid certification, So if I 255 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 1: go on a hike. I kind of have those thoughts 256 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 1: and I remember that this is something that I'm good at, 257 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:34,840 Speaker 1: even though that's separate from my work, and it builds 258 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:37,720 Speaker 1: your confidence, which comes back to your work. Again. That 259 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 1: makes totally because if you're feeling confidence in any area 260 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:45,560 Speaker 1: and connecting to that, it's gonna carry over into everything. Yeah. Um. 261 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 1: And then another thing is working on some of the 262 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 1: things that are like my perceived weaknesses. So in my 263 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 1: last business, I didn't handle any of the financial stuff. 264 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:56,679 Speaker 1: I got like DS in finance in college and so 265 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 1: not they not. But I've told myself that story first 266 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 1: go along and the like that's not something that I'm 267 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 1: good at, and then I shouldn't do. And then I 268 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:08,680 Speaker 1: missed out on the opportunity to learn from that in 269 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:10,559 Speaker 1: the last business because I had never touched them and 270 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 1: I let this another person handle all of that information. Um. 271 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 1: While the next time around, so I'm working on a 272 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:18,080 Speaker 1: new business and I've been handling all of the budget 273 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 1: and all of the talks with the investor, all the 274 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 1: negotiations with the landlord and all of that, and I've 275 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 1: done really well at it. Like wait a second, I 276 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:27,880 Speaker 1: can Yeah. So I feel like if there's something you 277 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:29,440 Speaker 1: feel like you're not great at it, it kind of 278 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 1: causes you to question your overall abilities. Then take a 279 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:36,720 Speaker 1: class in it, practice it um somehow see if maybe 280 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:38,679 Speaker 1: you're wrong and you are actually good at it or 281 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 1: could learn to be good at it, and if not, 282 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 1: then delegated. Right, Okay, if I feel like I'm not 283 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 1: good at this, instead of constantly beating myself up week 284 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:48,320 Speaker 1: after week or day after day, I'm going to let 285 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 1: somebody who can do this handle it, and then you 286 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 1: no longer have to have that feeling of like I'm 287 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:55,320 Speaker 1: going to not measure up at this particular thing. Right, 288 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 1: always ask her how that was. That was a big 289 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 1: one for me to learn, But I do I centified 290 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 1: with that as well. I've been in situations where you know, 291 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 1: someone's like, we'll all handle this because I'm really good 292 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 1: at it, and then all of a sudden, the message 293 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:09,560 Speaker 1: that I end up hearing is and you're not as good. 294 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 1: So then I check out. I think I can't do something, 295 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 1: and sometimes for me, it just takes sitting down and 296 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 1: trying it, and I can figure a lot of stuff out, 297 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. That's how I got where 298 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 1: we are. Exactly, and any sort of entrepreneur usually is 299 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 1: like a figure it out type of person. I think. 300 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 1: I think that kind of touches on to the fact 301 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 1: that the older I get, the more I realized about 302 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 1: what I don't know. You know. I mean I think you. 303 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 1: I think when you're in your twenties or something, it's 304 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 1: like you have this like no at all attitude, and 305 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 1: then you turn into you get into your thirties and 306 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 1: you're like, I shoot, I don't have nothing. But that's okay, 307 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 1: Like he said, it doesn't discount the stuff that you do. Know. 308 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:51,479 Speaker 1: It just means that life is like constantly about growing, absolutely, 309 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 1: especially if you're a business owner. I mean every day 310 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 1: I learned something new. Oh yes, So I came out 311 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 1: of that last situation and felt like I had to 312 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 1: question everything, Yeah, like whether or not I was doing 313 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 1: the right job, or whether or not I should be 314 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 1: an entrepreneur, and like that whole situation threatened to tear 315 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 1: me apart and kind of change the course of my life. Yeah, 316 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 1: that's super scary. Yeah. What I ended up designing is 317 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 1: I had some space from it was that I wanted 318 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 1: to keep doing what I was doing, and that has 319 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 1: been my confidence to it's sort of backing up and 320 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 1: considering and then coming back to it, well, knowing you 321 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 1: have the passion and that's there. Yeah, there was nothing 322 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 1: else I would rather do than this, and that that 323 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 1: was enough to like sustain me. What what was the 324 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:39,120 Speaker 1: process like after? And I'm only asking these questions because 325 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 1: I've been through similar things, But like I think a 326 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 1: lot of times that people see a successful person, they 327 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 1: don't think about all that it's taken to get them 328 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 1: there right now. And so you talk about some of 329 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 1: your business is not working out in the past, and 330 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 1: I've had similar situations where or partnerships that haven't worked out. 331 00:15:57,400 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 1: What was it like picking up the pieces with that? 332 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 1: You said you took some space. What does that look like? Yeah, 333 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 1: so actually left Nashville. UM. I went out to the 334 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 1: Northwest for six weeks and spent some time up there, 335 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 1: which allowed me to have like all of the emotions 336 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 1: I needed to have, grieving, grieving the business, UM and 337 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 1: the relationships and my like what I wanted my life 338 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 1: to be. I thought I was going to be there 339 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 1: for years to come, UM and have all those feelings 340 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 1: outside of Nashville, where I felt like all these people 341 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 1: knew who I wasn't attributed me to that particular business, 342 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 1: So instead of feeling like everybody was watching me grief, 343 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 1: I got to go kind of do that privately and 344 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 1: run through all of the emotions I needed to have. UM. 345 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 1: So that was really beautiful, and it also being somewhere 346 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 1: new gave me the inspiration for a new business. Um 347 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 1: seeing like what someone was doing in another city, or 348 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 1: even just getting in touch with like parts of yourself 349 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 1: that don't come up in your day to day life 350 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 1: where you are UM. So that was kind of a 351 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 1: luxury to be able to do that, but it really 352 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 1: made a difference in my process. Yeah. Well, speaking of 353 00:16:55,640 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 1: new businesses, about your new business, I'm so excited about those. 354 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 1: So you are working on a meditation studio. Correct, Nashville 355 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 1: does not have anything like this, so I am thrilled 356 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 1: it doesn't. You know, some of the yoga studios have 357 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:13,399 Speaker 1: like in meditation workshops from time to time. And I 358 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:15,360 Speaker 1: feel like the fitness industry here in the last few 359 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:17,919 Speaker 1: years and has really really grown UM and there are 360 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:20,159 Speaker 1: more people involved in it. There are more people recognizing 361 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 1: that there's a tie between fitness and like our self 362 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 1: care and living your best life. It's not all about 363 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:27,640 Speaker 1: just like let's get those six pack abs right. There's 364 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:29,199 Speaker 1: more to it than that, and I feel like the 365 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:31,919 Speaker 1: time is just perfect for something new like this. UM. 366 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 1: So we're doing modern meditation guided meditation classes where they're 367 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 1: focused on just sitting and breathing, which we call more 368 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:41,159 Speaker 1: of or some of the classes will be have certain 369 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 1: themes or visualizations that we do that are just all 370 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:47,479 Speaker 1: centered around the idea of UM finding your own voice 371 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 1: and living your best life. I did a podcast a 372 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago with he's actually a radiation oncologist 373 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 1: in l A. Yeah, but he comes from a Buddhist 374 00:17:57,760 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 1: background and like grew up doing all sorts of meditation, 375 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 1: so he really buys into His name is Dr roy 376 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:08,119 Speaker 1: Von Toama. He really buys into the importance of meditation, 377 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 1: and like what you're saying about the fitness community, just 378 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 1: like how we hold trauma, how we hold stress and 379 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:16,400 Speaker 1: have sects that that can have on your body are 380 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:19,399 Speaker 1: insane so true. Yeah, there's like such proven effects on 381 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:23,720 Speaker 1: like meditation for improving stress, for improving health. Yeah, so 382 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:26,399 Speaker 1: so so many benefits. Well I told this to him too, 383 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 1: was I suck at meditation? And he was like, well, 384 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:32,879 Speaker 1: that's the first message we're gonna have to work. But 385 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:36,639 Speaker 1: it's super hard for me. First of all, I just 386 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 1: don't want to do it. Like I there's a lot 387 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 1: of things that I do for self care. There's a 388 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:44,960 Speaker 1: lot of you know, like quiet time things that I 389 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 1: can kind of do. For some reason, I have a 390 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:51,439 Speaker 1: huge resistance to meditation. I think this is funny because 391 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:54,480 Speaker 1: it suddenly brings us back to imposter syndrome. But I 392 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 1: think part of that, and I've been there myself, so 393 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:59,400 Speaker 1: I totally understand. Is the idea that you're not good 394 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 1: at it. Like Okay, I'm gonna sit and I'm gonna 395 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 1: just breathe for ten minutes, twenty minutes, whatever, But I'm 396 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:05,920 Speaker 1: not gonna be able to slow my mind down because 397 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 1: I have all these things to do later. So I'm 398 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:09,199 Speaker 1: going to read a book or I'm going to watch Netflix, 399 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 1: or I'm gonna off or whatever. That's my itun and 400 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:14,200 Speaker 1: doesn't actually give us that quiet. Well. I like to 401 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:17,480 Speaker 1: do stuff that is Like I'm an overdoer for sure, 402 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 1: and so when I feel like it's just the idea 403 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 1: is to just sit there, you know, it's like, wait, 404 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:27,159 Speaker 1: what I just I can't. Definitely my mind starts running, 405 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 1: which she said, invite those thoughts, but I just want 406 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 1: to go do something about those thoughts. Can I know 407 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:37,440 Speaker 1: what my text about? That? So I'm really I love 408 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:40,119 Speaker 1: the visualizations. I'm like very creative person and I like 409 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:44,440 Speaker 1: to see something and imagine it. I'm very imaginative, which entrepreneurial, like, yeah, 410 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 1: that makes sense creating these businesses, businesses and brands. But 411 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:49,960 Speaker 1: what helps me when I'm having that feeling of like, well, 412 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:51,679 Speaker 1: if I can't show my mind and I'm failing at 413 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:54,639 Speaker 1: this right wrong, Yeah, that's not right. So I imagine 414 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:56,359 Speaker 1: tell me I'm winning at and I'll probably want to 415 00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 1: do it. I imagine that I'm standing in like upon 416 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 1: there's still water like waste high, okay, and then there 417 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:05,160 Speaker 1: are these little sailboats that come at me, and those 418 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:08,400 Speaker 1: were my thoughts coming in Like in Central Park, there's 419 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 1: like those toy sailboats, right, So every thought that kind 420 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:13,920 Speaker 1: of comes into my mind unwillingly because we can't stop 421 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 1: our minds at the time, is one of those little sailboats. 422 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:18,639 Speaker 1: And I sort of gently received it and turn it 423 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 1: around and send it away. That said, he said, He said, 424 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 1: he said, invite it in recognize the thought. He said, 425 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 1: it's actually really good, so you can know where your 426 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 1: mind is going to go. Like he said, invite that. 427 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:31,919 Speaker 1: But then it's like, but okay, now it's time for 428 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:33,359 Speaker 1: you to go away. This is not the time for 429 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 1: me to think about it. Send it away. You don't 430 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:37,439 Speaker 1: even have to complete the thoughts. So if I think of, like, oh, 431 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 1: I really wanted to write that social media post for 432 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:42,879 Speaker 1: the business about this thing, instead of allowing myself to 433 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:44,679 Speaker 1: sit in that and write it, you know, start to 434 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:47,680 Speaker 1: compose it in my mind in that moment. Instead, it's like, okay, 435 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 1: that's something when they come back to you later and 436 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 1: you send that little boat away, See, I would want 437 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:53,639 Speaker 1: to like open my eyes and make them make it 438 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 1: a notat so, because I'll forget if I don't, you know, 439 00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:58,359 Speaker 1: I think of it this way though, there are other 440 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:00,400 Speaker 1: thoughts that need to happen, and if you has them 441 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:03,640 Speaker 1: to allow that one, it's full life in that moment, 442 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:05,440 Speaker 1: you're going to miss out on other things you're supposed 443 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:09,159 Speaker 1: to be like discovering in that time. What okay, so 444 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 1: what our thoughts and meditation that are like what you're 445 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:15,159 Speaker 1: talking about, Like what thoughts, should I be inviting what 446 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:21,160 Speaker 1: you find out? It's duper for everybody. But I feel 447 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:23,160 Speaker 1: like the word I keep coming back to as I'm 448 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 1: learning more about this and preparing this new business is truth. 449 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 1: So not even your own truth. And you'll you'll hear 450 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:31,920 Speaker 1: things like in your own voice that you haven't thought 451 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 1: in a long time, or that you've never thought before 452 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:35,399 Speaker 1: that are going to be part of the future that 453 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:37,919 Speaker 1: need to come up. Really yeah, and that's part of 454 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 1: the beauty of it. But there's no right or wrong 455 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 1: way to do it. So you don't have to sit 456 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:43,640 Speaker 1: with your figures in their little circles um. You can 457 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 1: be all down, you can just sit or you're comfortable 458 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:48,439 Speaker 1: you have to chant um. And you don't have to 459 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:50,880 Speaker 1: like steal your mind completely. You don't have to levitate. 460 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 1: There's like all these sort of stereotypes about what it 461 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 1: really means, and it truly is. The definition of meditation 462 00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 1: is what you can do with your mind, body, and breath. Period. 463 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 1: Uh So that's that's all. So we want people to 464 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 1: come and sort of learn that, you know, set aside 465 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:07,919 Speaker 1: the fears like you have about not knowing how to 466 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:10,440 Speaker 1: do it or not being good at it. So at 467 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 1: the studio, Well, you guys have different types of like 468 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:15,640 Speaker 1: different types of classes you can do for different types 469 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 1: of meditation or how does it work. Yeah, we're gonna 470 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:20,919 Speaker 1: have basically just this sort of modern meditation style, so 471 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 1: really approachable for anybody. You have to have experience, you 472 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 1: don't have to have any particular religious affiliation. But the 473 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 1: three types we're going to focus on our one that's 474 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:32,879 Speaker 1: really just bread oriented and there's less verbal guiding from us. Um, 475 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:34,680 Speaker 1: we just kind of coach you into breathing and being 476 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 1: still and then your mind can go from there. UM. 477 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 1: One that's a little more guidance. You will talk more 478 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 1: about themes or about what you should be thinking, or 479 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 1: will tell you, um things like your visualize your breath 480 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 1: is light and that kind of gives just this beautiful, 481 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:50,880 Speaker 1: amazing feeling that you walk away with. UM. So that's 482 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 1: the second one of being more guided. And then the 483 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:55,919 Speaker 1: third well involved music. So for people who aren't as 484 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 1: comfortable with a silence and music it is such an 485 00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 1: emotional component too, so that'll bring up thinks that the 486 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:03,480 Speaker 1: other classes wouldn't. So that's like a third offering. It's 487 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 1: very fitting for Nashville. It is I have had some 488 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 1: success I've I've done since therapy, Like in the one 489 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:15,959 Speaker 1: of my therapist is a huge meditation proponent, and so 490 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:23,920 Speaker 1: we would start every session I said one a mother. No, 491 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:26,959 Speaker 1: I don't see her anymore. This is why I said that. 492 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 1: But I have a different one now anyway, one of 493 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:35,239 Speaker 1: my past therapy I'm less worried about, I know, all right, 494 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 1: So she would start every session with a meditation I 495 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:43,639 Speaker 1: don't know what you call it session, Okay, So but 496 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 1: she would kind of be like picture yourself in an 497 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:50,160 Speaker 1: outdoor scenario. And then it was like all the answers 498 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:53,359 Speaker 1: that I needed to know about what I felt comfortable with, 499 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 1: their kind of learning about like my inner child type 500 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,679 Speaker 1: stuff was in what I was picking through that, you 501 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:01,440 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So that was like that was interesting, 502 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 1: but again it was making me think and I like 503 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 1: to do. So it was like almost like was that 504 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 1: really quieting my mind? I don't feel like that. Well, 505 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:10,959 Speaker 1: you might think you might start in like our guided 506 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:12,679 Speaker 1: class where you have a little bit more like to 507 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:17,160 Speaker 1: give your mind. Yeah, yeah, something for every mesit any 508 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:18,920 Speaker 1: time was that I'm so sad, as you said, it's 509 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:22,439 Speaker 1: in this open early nineteen. That yeah, march ish so 510 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 1: sometimes early nineteen, and it's called youst of the name. 511 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 1: It's like the revealed, this is in public. Yeah, so 512 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:32,120 Speaker 1: this is the the announcement will be it right here. 513 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 1: It's called flourished meditation. Flourished meditation. I love that because 514 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:40,480 Speaker 1: you're going to flourish in your life. She meditate exactly, 515 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 1: so beautiful. I will be a regular of flourished meditation, 516 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you that much. Do you actually buy 517 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 1: into what it does for your body? In your mind? Again, 518 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:52,879 Speaker 1: I just don't like I really want to do it, 519 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 1: which Dr Hong Thomas says it probably means I need 520 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 1: to do it really bad. I think so without our marketing. Yeah, 521 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 1: even then I'm talking to you about it, I get 522 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 1: just like hit in my stomach and I'm like, which 523 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:07,160 Speaker 1: definitely means there's some fear there for me and it's 524 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:09,119 Speaker 1: probably something going to need to just lead into. Yeah, 525 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, Kimberally, thank you so much for doing this. Thanky. Okay, 526 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:16,400 Speaker 1: so people can find you on Instagram at you said 527 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 1: at Kimberly Nova sl spell that out because I don't 528 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 1: think that well. Yeah, Kimberly is k I M b 529 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 1: R L y okay. And then no Vacilla is n 530 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 1: O v O s e ol okay. And then we'll 531 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:30,920 Speaker 1: Flourish have its own instagram. It does. It's at Flourish 532 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,680 Speaker 1: Meditation at Flourish Meditation, So you guys can check out 533 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 1: that instagram for updates on when it's going to open. 534 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:37,920 Speaker 1: If you're in Nashville or if you're planning a trip, 535 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 1: go meditate. What a good way to like start a vacation. 536 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:44,680 Speaker 1: I need so all right, thank you so much, And 537 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:46,880 Speaker 1: if you guys have more questions, you can message me 538 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:50,280 Speaker 1: or email me at info at velvets dot com, or 539 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 1: you can message kimberally directly at Kimberly himself by