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Speaker 1: Welcome to one Bills like the air Friar edition of

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Speaker 1: our daily show One Bills Live, where we shoehorn everything

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Speaker 1: Bills we can into about forty minutes coming up. What

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Speaker 1: under the radar players could surprise in Bill's Camp this summer.

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Speaker 1: Steve gets quizzed in the Numbers game, and Bills receiver

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Speaker 1: Isaiah Hodgins on prepping for his first season on the

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Speaker 1: field after shoulder surgery took away his rookie season. Let's

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Speaker 1: roll it out at a Steve taster who has been

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Speaker 1: all over the fields. Kind of unique. He was kind

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Speaker 1: of a dual role player for you, Steve, Steve a blimp.

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Speaker 1: We're not even in the stratosphere of normalcy. Thank you

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Speaker 1: for joining us here on one Bills Like Chris Brown

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Speaker 1: and Steve cast with you as always, And as Bills

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Speaker 1: Mini Camp came to a close, there was a noticeable

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Speaker 1: development in the play on the field. Young players on

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Speaker 1: the roster, Steve, We're making their presence felt, Greg Rousseau,

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Speaker 1: Boogie Basham batting down passes. Rashad wild Goose had a takeaway.

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Speaker 1: Isaiah Hodgins, who will speak with a little later, has

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Speaker 1: made some head turning receptions as well. Steve, I realized

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Speaker 1: we still have to get to real football and training camp.

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Speaker 1: But on a roster that is going to be hard

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Speaker 1: to make, there might be some underestimated players in terms

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Speaker 1: be to make some legitimate contributions this season. Yeah, no

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Speaker 1: question about the youth on this team is becoming prevalent.

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Speaker 1: I think they drafted these guys high in the first round,

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Speaker 1: Last year, Gabe Davis got a surprising opportunity to contribute

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Speaker 1: and for guys to make the roster because they've got

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Speaker 1: guys who can. I think the incredible thing is he

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Speaker 1: got a young players who when they got a small

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Speaker 1: great example of that. There's guys who have been are

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Speaker 1: young players like Tommy Sweeney, who has not seen the

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Speaker 1: So you've got a lot of young players who were

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Speaker 1: what they really can bring to the table. And some

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Speaker 1: interesting to me every year how the construction of the

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Speaker 1: the regime, they were trying to thrust young veteran players

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Speaker 1: into prominent roles. You know, they signed Jordan Poyer and

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Speaker 1: I think that's starting to change now because the core

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Speaker 1: and instead they have reinvested in youth, and it looks,

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Speaker 1: whether it's you know, whether Dane Jackson wins the job

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Speaker 1: for the first time in the McDermott bean regime, they

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Speaker 1: offense every week so I can keep up on how

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Speaker 1: that morphs and changes. I'm sure you've already learned very

429
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Speaker 1: quickly how Brian Dable is not afraid to change something

430
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Speaker 1: as late as a Thursday on a game week and

431
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Speaker 1: put it in for Sunday. And you want to be

432
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Speaker 1: on top of all that stuff even though you might

433
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Speaker 1: not be physically repping it on the field. So what

434
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Speaker 1: did you do to stay as engaged as possible so

435
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Speaker 1: as not to have such a huge learning curve when

436
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Speaker 1: you did get back on the field here in the spring. Yeah,

437
00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:32,159
Speaker 1: I mean it just took a lot of dedication of

438
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Speaker 1: just you know, studying and really staying on top of

439
00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:36,200
Speaker 1: things and day ball and you know, my wide receiver

440
00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:38,560
Speaker 1: coach chat and some of the vets like Digs too

441
00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:40,480
Speaker 1: would just tell me the same thing. It's just really

442
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Speaker 1: same tapped in and really trying to pick something every

443
00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:45,040
Speaker 1: day to kind of learn from everybody. And you know,

444
00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:46,840
Speaker 1: I was thinking that whole time to really learn the

445
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Speaker 1: playbook and learn all the positions. You know, I could

446
00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:52,800
Speaker 1: go in and slide outside, ZX whatever, and you know,

447
00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:55,240
Speaker 1: and just really sitting here every practice and watching digs

448
00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:57,879
Speaker 1: and Hyde packers in and out and Colbys and what

449
00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:00,240
Speaker 1: he does and at the time John Brown and you know,

450
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Speaker 1: just learning the offense more. It's and now where now

451
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Speaker 1: I have the confidence to where I know every position,

452
00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:06,920
Speaker 1: and you know, I have some tools that I didn't

453
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Speaker 1: have last year that you know, I learned from just

454
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:11,119
Speaker 1: watching and sitting back last year. So I feel like

455
00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:13,399
Speaker 1: taking that step back, you know, I didn't want to

456
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Speaker 1: do it, but it kind of helped me in the

457
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Speaker 1: long run. So you had your your son, your first

458
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Speaker 1: time father this last September of last year, and now

459
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Speaker 1: you a lot of people don't know that your dad

460
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Speaker 1: also was a Super Bowl winning fullback with the Rams

461
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Speaker 1: back in the day. What has he passed on to you?

462
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Speaker 1: And if there was something that you knew right now

463
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Speaker 1: you were absolutely going to pass on to your son,

464
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Speaker 1: what would it be. I feel like my dad passed

465
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Speaker 1: a lot on to me, just uh, really knowing the

466
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Speaker 1: ins and outs of the NFL and obviously you know

467
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:45,240
Speaker 1: it changes every year, but him just you know, teaching

468
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Speaker 1: me how to last in the NFL, and you know,

469
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Speaker 1: where some pro habits that I need to have and

470
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Speaker 1: you know what they're looking for and how I need

471
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Speaker 1: to act and you know what I can do every practice.

472
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Speaker 1: And he played with a lot of great receivers like

473
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Speaker 1: Laifa Cheryl and Kombolden and Tory Hole, Isaac Bruce, and

474
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Speaker 1: he would tell me just to practice half as of

475
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:03,840
Speaker 1: these guys and what they would do and you know,

476
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Speaker 1: how they would practice and how they would compete. And

477
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Speaker 1: you know, I felt like I took a little bit

478
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Speaker 1: of all of that, you know, and I feel like

479
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Speaker 1: for my son, you know, I would basically, you know,

480
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:13,560
Speaker 1: try to tell him the same thing and just you know,

481
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:15,800
Speaker 1: getting him the insights of it, but just really just

482
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Speaker 1: making sure that he has that confidence in himself. And

483
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Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, the wide receiver room. We

484
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Speaker 1: talked about that as a live it's just you know,

485
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Speaker 1: really you know, chusting you first and really believing in

486
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Speaker 1: you and your talents and what you can do. Because

487
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Speaker 1: if you don't do that, then someone else isn't going

488
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:29,879
Speaker 1: to do it for you. And the quarterbacks are not

489
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:31,840
Speaker 1: gonna chust you if you don't chust yourself. So you

490
00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:33,520
Speaker 1: got to really sit there and have confidence and ut

491
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Speaker 1: there with the documentality every day. I remember when you know,

492
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Speaker 1: I interviewed you and your brother for a story we

493
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Speaker 1: did on Buffalo bills dot com last year. You were

494
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Speaker 1: talking about how your dad was pretty tough on you

495
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Speaker 1: guys in terms of making your football ready at a

496
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Speaker 1: pretty early age. Can you just share with the audience

497
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Speaker 1: because I thought it was hilarious because I can I

498
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Speaker 1: can picture this and I just pickture a neighbor walking

499
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Speaker 1: by on the sidewalk watching a dad put put his

500
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Speaker 1: kids who were still like probably what under ten years

501
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,080
Speaker 1: of age, and you're doing ladder drills and push ups

502
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:07,200
Speaker 1: and he's he's got the hose out there and he's

503
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Speaker 1: hitting it with the hole. Like, just just relay that

504
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,920
Speaker 1: for our listening audience so they can kind of picture. Yeah,

505
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:15,000
Speaker 1: he he only did that one time because I told

506
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Speaker 1: him I wasn't doing that bad again. That was crazy.

507
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:20,199
Speaker 1: He really had us out there doing like eight year

508
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:22,679
Speaker 1: olds and ladder Joe's and just a bunch of different

509
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:25,680
Speaker 1: crazy stuff, like on the front porch, like while spraying

510
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:27,240
Speaker 1: us with the hose because it was like, you know,

511
00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:28,960
Speaker 1: there's like a hot day. So I don't know what

512
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Speaker 1: he was trying to simulate, just like rainy games or

513
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Speaker 1: just something. I feel like he was just really getting

514
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:35,439
Speaker 1: a kick out of it looking back, because you know,

515
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:37,680
Speaker 1: we were little and we were just like, yeah, we'll

516
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:39,439
Speaker 1: do whatever you say, so you know, we were kind

517
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:41,640
Speaker 1: of just having fun with it. But yeah, I mean, yeah,

518
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:43,480
Speaker 1: there's there's tons of moments like that. But you know,

519
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:45,040
Speaker 1: he definitely taught us a lot and it was fun.

520
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Speaker 1: He've also got a younger sibling, Isaac, who is a

521
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:53,320
Speaker 1: defensive end in college at Oregon State. You're you're alma

522
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:55,120
Speaker 1: mater as well. Both you guys came out of there.

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Speaker 1: Give us an idea of what his career plans with,

524
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Speaker 1: what's he likes he likeing it. Did you have a

525
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:02,679
Speaker 1: good experience at Organ State? How's his experience going, and

526
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 1: do you guys talk about and what do you talk

527
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:07,719
Speaker 1: about when you reach back to him. Yeah, I mean

528
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 1: I had a great experience at Organ State. I felt

529
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Speaker 1: like they really got me ready for the NFL and

530
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Speaker 1: my word wide receiver coach there was great and I

531
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Speaker 1: felt like they put me in a great position to

532
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Speaker 1: succeed playing in the slot, playing outside and all that.

533
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Speaker 1: And then I love playing with my brother. You know,

534
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:21,880
Speaker 1: it just reminded me of we played on the same

535
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Speaker 1: high school team, the same pop Warning teams, so just

536
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 1: you know, growing up playing always on the same team,

537
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Speaker 1: and then being at that collegiate levels and now we're

538
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:31,719
Speaker 1: playing way bigger games and seeing him on defense, you know,

539
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 1: play versus Oregon and get a sack and you know,

540
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Speaker 1: do all this while I'm just on the sidebying on offense.

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Speaker 1: So you know, it was just fun to watch that

542
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Speaker 1: and it kind of just always took me back to

543
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Speaker 1: the good old days. And then there was always those

544
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Speaker 1: times of practice too where there was time I can

545
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:46,120
Speaker 1: get a little cheap shot on him, you know I

546
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 1: would get it. But you know, that's just the brother

547
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 1: we love that we had. But you know, I feel

548
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 1: like he's doing great. He has great pro habits and

549
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 1: he's a hard worker man. He's always first one on

550
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:57,440
Speaker 1: the field, last one off, So you know, I feel

551
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Speaker 1: like his future is very great. Talking to Isaiah Hodgins,

552
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 1: Bill's wide receiver, and I understan you shared with us

553
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Speaker 1: before we came on the air that he's actually getting

554
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 1: married this weekend, so you gotta high tail it out

555
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 1: of town to get to the ceremonies. How is your

556
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 1: best man's speech shaping up? I'm assuming you're the best man. God,

557
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 1: I hope you are. Yeah, yeah, I'm definitely the best man.

558
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Speaker 1: I'm still kind of working on this speeches. I'm trying,

559
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Speaker 1: you know, I got to do the toast at dinner

560
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 1: and the speech and just a bunch of different stuff,

561
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Speaker 1: so you know, I'm still kind of working on it.

562
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Speaker 1: But yeah, I got to get out of here on

563
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Speaker 1: the Friday, heads straight to that wedding, So you know,

564
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Speaker 1: I'm excited a fan. It's a big step in his life. Well, well,

565
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Speaker 1: good luck, appreciate it's good. Thanks for coming on, Isaiah,

566
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Speaker 1: good luck travel safe, and congratulations on getting healthy, getting

567
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Speaker 1: back on the field and giving the Bills fans and

568
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Speaker 1: the Bill's coaching staff a chance to see what you

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Speaker 1: can really do. Congratulations, Sarah, I'm excited. Thank you guys

570
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Speaker 1: for having me. All Right, we close up this episode

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Speaker 1: of One Bill's Light with Will it Happened Stevie, You're ready.

572
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Speaker 1: I am ready. Number One. The Bills carry seven receivers

573
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Speaker 1: on their fifty three man roster this season. Will it happen?

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Speaker 1: I say yes. I think it's going to be more

575
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Speaker 1: the same this year. I think it's going to force

576
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 1: teams to go very deep into their roster in the secondary,

577
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Speaker 1: and that will force teams to lighten up in the

578
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 1: front seven, with smaller, more athletic bodies and fewer guys

579
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Speaker 1: packed in around the box. So yes, I think they will.

580
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Speaker 1: I think that's the trend the league's going in, and

581
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Speaker 1: I think the Bills will be at the forefront of it.

582
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Speaker 1: I agree. I think for the first time since I

583
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Speaker 1: can remember, this team will have seven receivers on the

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Speaker 1: active roster when they cut it down to fifty three.

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Speaker 1: The only question is who's six and seven. I think

586
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 1: you can find a pretty easy way to get through

587
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:49,120
Speaker 1: the first four or five. Six and seven is where

588
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Speaker 1: the real hardcore battles are going to come in camp.

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Speaker 1: All right, Will it happen? Number two? Isaiah Hodgens has

590
00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 1: more receptions in twenty twenty one, then Isaiah McKenzie. Will

591
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 1: it happen? I'm going to say, Man, that's a tough one.

592
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 1: I would now keep in mind, keep in mind those

593
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 1: little sweeps counts as a reception. I get it. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna say no, Hodgens will not have more than Isaiah McKenzie.

595
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 1: But there's a chance. It's tough, isn't it. I'm gonna say.

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00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say no. McKenzie is a guy they depend on.

597
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 1: He'll have more opportunities and with the with the depth

598
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 1: of receivers, I think it's gonna be hard for Hodgens

599
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 1: to get on the field, and certainly when he gets

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Speaker 1: on the field, he's not gonna be the number one option,

601
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Speaker 1: even in the red zone. Yeah, so I'm gonna say no,

602
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna say Mackenzie. I want to say yes. I'm

603
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 1: a believer in Hodgens game too, but yeah, I think

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Speaker 1: Mackenzie is too entrenched. I think the only thing that

605
00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:03,240
Speaker 1: could have Hodgens eclipse Mackenzie is if he is the

606
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:08,720
Speaker 1: primary returner on kicks and punts, then his time on

607
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 1: offense may be scaled back slightly where it's only a

608
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 1: package of plays per se, and then that could open

609
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 1: the door. But even so, I tend to agree with

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Speaker 1: you Hodgens though he stands a good chance to probably

611
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Speaker 1: make the roster. I think he's going to be buried

612
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:26,720
Speaker 1: on the depth chart as far as the pecking order goes, right. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Number three Steve Marquez Stevenson makes the active roster. Will

614
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 1: it happen? It sounds like a ridiculous proposition, But when

615
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 1: you look at this roster and who they have at

616
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:43,080
Speaker 1: wide receiver, does a sixth round draft choice make it?

617
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Speaker 1: I think he's got practice squad written all over him.

618
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Speaker 1: But I don't know that the guy won't make the

619
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Speaker 1: reactive roster like in week fourteen, you know what I mean,

620
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Speaker 1: or thirteen later on in the season. I think he's

621
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Speaker 1: got practice squad written on him at this current time

622
00:32:55,800 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 1: development injuries. He's got a chance because of that, because

623
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Speaker 1: of the attrition or the position, and because I think

624
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:07,239
Speaker 1: he's too good an athlete not to have around. He

625
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 1: mimics Isaiah McKenzie's skill set. I'm must say during the season,

626
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 1: not maybe not opening day, but during the season, yes,

627
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 1: he's got a shot at it. I wonder, well, here's

628
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 1: the first thing. The first thing is this his best

629
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 1: chance to make the roster is by proving he's the

630
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 1: best return man on the roster. So if his cut

631
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 1: and go straight line speed ability is on display in

632
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Speaker 1: the preseason and he can prove that I am the

633
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:35,720
Speaker 1: best kick returner, I am the best punt returner, then

634
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 1: he's obviously on the roster. Short of that, I don't

635
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 1: know that he is. And I wonder where this front

636
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 1: office and coaching staff is at when it comes to

637
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 1: players that they like to have around and develop, but no,

638
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:52,480
Speaker 1: if they put them on the practice squad, they could

639
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 1: be poached. And I think Markus Stevenson is a candidate

640
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 1: for that on some you know, for some teams that

641
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 1: are receiver needing. So I wonder how they work their

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Speaker 1: way through that kind of decision making. And again, I

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Speaker 1: think this is a summer where Brandon Bean will have

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Speaker 1: some trade opportunities because his roster is overflowing with talent

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Speaker 1: at certain positions. So it's going to be very interesting

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Speaker 1: to keep our ears to the ground to see what

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Speaker 1: comes to pass in terms of preemptively moving people off

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Speaker 1: the roster to make the roster decisions to get to

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Speaker 1: fifty three easier. The only question is what are they

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Speaker 1: going to trade for? They're going to trade for a

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Speaker 1: player they need for some depth. Are they going to

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Speaker 1: trade for draft capital coming? I think it's draft capital

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Speaker 1: all the way, Jose, because we've already talked about it.

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Speaker 1: The twenty twenty two draft class is going to be

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Speaker 1: extraordinarily deep with all the kids that went back to

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Speaker 1: college this past year because they were granted an extra

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Speaker 1: year of eligibility by the NCAA because of the pandemic,

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Speaker 1: and the pool is going to be one third larger

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Speaker 1: than it normally is. It is going to be gigantic,

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Speaker 1: and I think the gms in the league are aware

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Speaker 1: of that, and they'll be after draft choices for sure.

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Speaker 1: That'll do it for this edition of One Bill's Life.

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