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Speaker 1: And welcome to Tuesday's They shot a big blue kickoff

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Speaker 1: gonna get into a few other subjects before we hit

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Speaker 1: this was an interesting article that was just posted on

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Speaker 1: ESPN today, Paul. They rated the number one wide receivers

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Speaker 1: for all thirty two NFL teams, and they put them

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Speaker 1: in tears and they had Tier one as legitimate number one. Guys,

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Speaker 1: there's no question you know what you're getting out of

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Speaker 1: these wide receivers. Then Tier two is sort of the

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Speaker 1: group of wide receivers who they've shown some upside, they've

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Speaker 1: shown some potential, but they still have a little bit

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Speaker 1: more to prove. And I want to start, obviously with

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Speaker 1: the number one tier, because clearly a giant is in

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Speaker 1: that group, and that is Odell Beckham, which I don't

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Speaker 1: think is necessarily a surprise. And Michael Clay was the

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Speaker 1: author of this article, and one of the things that

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Speaker 1: he pointed to about Beckham is he does not have

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Speaker 1: any doubts. He feels that Odell Beckham is gonna be

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Speaker 1: able to pick up where he left off before the

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Speaker 1: injury in two thousand sixteen, and he's gonna be able

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Speaker 1: to basically put up similar numbers that he did over

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Speaker 1: his first three seasons in the NFL. And he says

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Speaker 1: he doesn't see why it's a stretch to think that

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Speaker 1: he get to thirteen hundred yards as well as double

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Speaker 1: digit touchdowns, and he thinks the arrival of s Kwon

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Speaker 1: Barkley is actually, if anything, going to help his production.

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Speaker 1: And this is what they call the projected target share,

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Speaker 1: and they have him at twenty eight percent and they

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Speaker 1: said healthy during the better part of the two thousand

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Speaker 1: fourteen sixteen seasons, Beckham handled two hundred thirty seven more

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Speaker 1: targets than any other Giants player during that span. He

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Speaker 1: registered and share of at least twenty seven percent each

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Speaker 1: of those seasons and enters two thousand eighteen, which link

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Speaker 1: Shepard the closest on the depth charts. So they are optimistic.

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Speaker 1: They feel good that Odell Beckham is going to get

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Speaker 1: back to what he did in two thousand sixteen, and

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Speaker 1: I don't think there's any reason to necessarily doubt that. Well,

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Speaker 1: there's certainly a lot of hope from the medical staff here.

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Speaker 1: They'd like to believe that he's going to be great

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Speaker 1: and there will be no change for what he was before.

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Speaker 1: I would say this, I think it's very hard when

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Speaker 1: you're talking about the top tier guys to quantify who

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Speaker 1: really is one to three and four, you know, I

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Speaker 1: think they have five in the top tier guys. It's

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Speaker 1: almost like going to the supermarket and picking which fruit

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Speaker 1: do you prefer? Apples, pears, oranges, cantaloupes. I mean, these

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Speaker 1: guys are legit game breakers, game changers, impact players who

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Speaker 1: I think what really happens is, and what separates a

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Speaker 1: guy's true value is how much does he mean to

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Speaker 1: his team? In other words, and you know what do

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Speaker 1: they talk about wins above replacement value? The war ranking

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Speaker 1: in baseball for saber metrics? Guys do that? You know?

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Speaker 1: I'm not big on that stuff, to be honest with you,

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Speaker 1: but I can understand where people have a perception of

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Speaker 1: Because well, if you remove Odell Beckham from the Giants offense,

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Speaker 1: wasn't very pretty? Uh? If you remove Brown from the

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Speaker 1: Steelers offense, are they going to be as hamstrong as

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Speaker 1: the Giants were? I don't think so. To be perfectly honest,

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Speaker 1: I think Beckham is more important to the Giants than

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Speaker 1: I've I've always thought that Beckham was one of the

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Speaker 1: at least fair because DeAndre Hopkins I think belongs in

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Speaker 1: But despite that, I think he's done a hell of

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Speaker 1: that win over replacement value. I do think that it's

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Speaker 1: that short circuited that offense probably as much as Beckham's

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Speaker 1: loss to the Giants offense. It was just a mammoth

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Speaker 1: Maybe it would. It would hurt them for sure, because

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Speaker 1: you could actually say that about that They're presence could

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Speaker 1: what Oldell Beckham does. But I think a lot of

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Speaker 1: what Beckham does and some of these other top tier

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Speaker 1: the box score. And that's why I wouldn't be so

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Speaker 1: If you're not playing Antonio Brown, Okay, you're the defensive coordinator, Paul,

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Speaker 1: oh for sure, how much does that now free up

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Speaker 1: I love the coaches angle on this, and there is

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Speaker 1: It's exactly what we talked about when we said the

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Speaker 1: Giants should draft sake On Barkley, because defensive coordinators are

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Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, you know it's picked you poison. It's

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Speaker 1: There are others who absolutely mean that much to their teams,

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Speaker 1: a special guest coming up in the bottom of the hour,

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Speaker 1: so we want to give you an opportunity to weigh in.

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Speaker 1: Greg is in Atlanta, right, what's happening? Hey, how are

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Speaker 1: you doing, Greg? What's happening with you? Not much, man,

431
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Speaker 1: just calling, just say, you know, looking at the you

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Speaker 1: who's roster and y'all spoke about when they have like

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Speaker 1: tremendous depth, and I just wish, you know, we just

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Speaker 1: started with a new regime, new coaches and everything, but

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Speaker 1: I just wish we started to build on our depth

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Speaker 1: and saying that, I just would like to see, um,

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Speaker 1: I know, Jared blyingness like, uh, I don't know what's

438
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Speaker 1: the word I'm looking for when it comes to them,

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Speaker 1: but I just thinking we're thinking Super Bowl this year

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Speaker 1: or at least the next two years. To add someone

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Speaker 1: like that your roster would be tremendous. And I just

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Speaker 1: wanted to know, and I take the answer off line,

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Speaker 1: uh uh. I just wanted to know, like, is there

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Speaker 1: a way that you can write contracts up that Chell,

445
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Speaker 1: you know, to have little quarters in It's like, hey,

446
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Speaker 1: if you have these anticks on the field, you won't

447
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Speaker 1: the cage and you could draw up a contract like

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Speaker 1: the draw up Davin, give it to him and cut down.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate the phone call, but the only thing I

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Speaker 1: know is that a coach does have, within the CBA rules,

451
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Speaker 1: the ability to find a player if he breaks team

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Speaker 1: policy and team rules. That's about the only discipline that

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Speaker 1: I'm aware of. Yeah, there's usually some behavioral clause by

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Speaker 1: default in contracts, and then also there's the Personal Conduct

455
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Speaker 1: policy that's a lead policy. That's a bigger picture. No,

456
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Speaker 1: it's a bigger picture. But yeah, there can be clauses

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Speaker 1: put in contracts where you have specific behavior criteria and

458
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Speaker 1: if a player gets out of line, you have every

459
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Speaker 1: right to find them. I mean, I don't think that's

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Speaker 1: anything unique. I will tell teams punished players before. I

461
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Speaker 1: don't know definitively if any player who has gotten one

462
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Speaker 1: of those celebration penalties on the field with a flag

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Speaker 1: has been fined by his specific team for drawing that penalty.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if that's ever happened. But and some

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Speaker 1: of those things may not even be publicly well, no

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Speaker 1: they're not. They find somebody, or they ever done. I

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Speaker 1: really don't know. The huge question, Yeah, that I'm not

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Speaker 1: sure about. But I don't think to answer the last

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Speaker 1: caller's question, I don't think it's unheard of if you're

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Speaker 1: a team executive and you want to have some language

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Speaker 1: to protect you as a team that says, hey, listen,

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Speaker 1: if you get out of line, we have the right

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Speaker 1: to punish you or find you, or whatever it may be.

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Speaker 1: But I mean, I don't I don't think that's the

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Speaker 1: biggest concern though with Dez Bryant. I mean, he's an

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Speaker 1: emotional guy on the field. But you know, if there's

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Speaker 1: any question mark about Dez Bryant, Paul, it's about his

478
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Speaker 1: consistency production wise. It's not his health well, and it's healthy, okay,

479
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Speaker 1: but it's not It's not about the antics, as the

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Speaker 1: last caller put it. I mean that that would not

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Speaker 1: be why I would fear signing a player like that.

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Speaker 1: If anything, I would just ask myself, do I think

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Speaker 1: he could produce at a high enough level that's better

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Speaker 1: than what I already have on my roster? And is

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Speaker 1: he a good compliment? Can he accept a role with

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Speaker 1: what I already had? That's what I would apprised me.

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Speaker 1: If there are some coaching staffs and organizations that would

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Speaker 1: shy away from him because of his sideline antics. He

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Speaker 1: has gotten into a number of heated arguments on his

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Speaker 1: bench with his coaches, with his teammates. Uh, they have

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Speaker 1: been very visual, they have been very well televised by

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Speaker 1: television cameras, and I could not hold it against selected

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Speaker 1: folks in the league that did not want to touch that. Well. Listen,

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Speaker 1: I get that maybe the optics sometimes lead people to

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Speaker 1: develop opinions, but I mean, I remember he went at

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Speaker 1: it with Jason Witten, and then when you hear the audio,

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Speaker 1: it turned out to be not an argument. It just

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Speaker 1: turned out to be a passionate conversation about freest to

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Speaker 1: do your due diligence and investigate those who you make

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Speaker 1: a final decision. There's no doubt about that. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's something that I think they should certainly look into

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Speaker 1: if they are interested, because he's still out on the market.

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Speaker 1: But I would not personally shy away from the player

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Speaker 1: simply because of the concern over the antics. All right,

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Speaker 1: let's head back to the phone lines. Duke is in

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Speaker 1: Queen's Duke. What's happening? Hey, guys, how's it going? I

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Speaker 1: gotta I got two questions, and then I have something

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Speaker 1: to say after that. Um, the first question is, uh,

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Speaker 1: if you guys could sort of change, I wouldn't would

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Speaker 1: necessarily say mold, but I guess that's where I work.

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Speaker 1: But if you could change, if you guys' bodies on

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Speaker 1: the team and and make it different than what it

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Speaker 1: is right now, who would you change and why? So

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Speaker 1: we're talking about the physicality of a player. Yeah, so

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Speaker 1: if I wanted to give him some more meat and potatoes,

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Speaker 1: is what you're asking us. Who would I give if

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Speaker 1: we can or who would I tell the slip down?

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Speaker 1: I guess that's a very strange question. Well, it's a

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Speaker 1: unique question. I think there's a lot of unique topics

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Speaker 1: that have come up on today's show. Well, let me

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Speaker 1: say why I acted. I actually think Evan Ingram could

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Speaker 1: maybe be a little bit bigger. But that's just me.

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Speaker 1: But that's why I because I had I thought and

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Speaker 1: when that question, well, he's a young player to keep

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Speaker 1: that so, I mean, he gotta figure his body is

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Speaker 1: going to continue to develop over the next few years.

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Speaker 1: And I don't think that that's crazy. I think an

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Speaker 1: answer to your question would be more suitable for a

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Speaker 1: veteran player, somebody who actually has fully developed their body

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Speaker 1: and you're asking them to maybe, you know, stay off

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Speaker 1: the chicken wings or whatever. If you'd like me to

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Speaker 1: be a little bit serious about this question, if I

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Speaker 1: could add another couple of inches and then another fifteen

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Speaker 1: to twenty pounds to his frame, I would do it

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Speaker 1: to Brett Jones because right now it's his rather smallish

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Speaker 1: frame size for an NFL center that is the only

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Speaker 1: thing holding him back from being, you know, much higher

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Speaker 1: on the grading chart, because I think he's a really

539
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Speaker 1: good player, and he's a really good pass protector, but

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Speaker 1: his run blocking in the run game, the power run blocking,

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Speaker 1: much like Western Ridgeburg. Because he's undersized frame wise, there

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Speaker 1: are certain matchup he's going to be on the on

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Speaker 1: the wrong side of because he's considered a smaller center.

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Speaker 1: That's just the way it is, I mean, and you know,

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Speaker 1: so if you could add an interest due to him

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Speaker 1: high wise and frame wise, give him a little more bulk,

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Speaker 1: I think Brett Jones would not even be involved in

548
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Speaker 1: a competition. He'd be the starting center and Hallapeo would

549
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Speaker 1: not be fighting him right now for that job. I'll

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Speaker 1: take a page out of Paul's playbook, Duke and I'll

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Speaker 1: give a few more interest to Dante Dion. How about that? Okay?

552
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Speaker 1: Because Donte Dion he's got plenty of upside too, but

553
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:36,199
Speaker 1: in fairness, he runs into taller wide receivers and it

554
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 1: makes it so embarrassed. You guys know, I've been like

555
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Speaker 1: the biggest president of the Donte Dion since he got here,

556
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Speaker 1: and so I'm terribly embarrassed that I didn't think of

557
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Speaker 1: him first. But remember I've also been since the Dave

558
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Speaker 1: Brett Jones sign from the CFL. I scouted him and

559
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Speaker 1: I was a big fan of his. Two so, two

560
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Speaker 1: guys that are on Paul De Tino's fan list, we

561
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Speaker 1: are giving them a little bit more substance from a

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Speaker 1: physicality standpoint? What else you got for us to And

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Speaker 1: my other question is this, Um, I don't think you

564
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Speaker 1: guys ever spoke about this, but the rookie quarterbacks given

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Speaker 1: where they went, Um, who do you see being the

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Speaker 1: best one out of the bunch given where they went?

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Speaker 1: And get because from what I'm hearing from like scouts

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Speaker 1: and NFL reports is that one Sam Donald might start

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Speaker 1: week one and two that um, what to say, number

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Speaker 1: one pick? He might start as well? From Brown though

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Speaker 1: he might start as well. So what do you who

572
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Speaker 1: do you guys think might be the best out that

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Speaker 1: you know where they went. So you're talking about the

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Speaker 1: rookie quarterbacks that have the potential to start. Is that

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Speaker 1: you're referring to? Yeah, but but not necessarily the professional

576
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Speaker 1: will start. But just that that that they have like

577
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Speaker 1: the brightest tore ahead of them because of their teams,

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Speaker 1: you know, like you look, I I've I've said this

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Speaker 1: for months. I think that that Alan has the best

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Speaker 1: skill set. Now, that does not mean he will have

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Speaker 1: the best winning percentage by the time his career is over.

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Speaker 1: But I stand by the fact that Alan has the

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Speaker 1: best skill set of the quarterbacks in his class. I

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Speaker 1: absolutely stand by that fact, and I think most people

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Speaker 1: agree with me. The people who knock him don't don't

586
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Speaker 1: have anything to say about his physical tools, and they can't.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's pretty clear. Well, it's an interesting question, Duke,

588
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Speaker 1: because we did, in fairness talk about the quarterbacks upside

589
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Speaker 1: before the draft and who we thought was the top guy.

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Speaker 1: And I was always very high on Baker Mayfield. But

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Speaker 1: then I think it's a different question to say, Okay,

592
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Speaker 1: now that the quarterbacks are drafted, who do you think

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Speaker 1: is actually a good fit for his respective team. So

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Speaker 1: when you ask it that way, I still think Baker

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Speaker 1: Mayfield is a good fit for Cleveland. Um, so I'm

596
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Speaker 1: not gonna necessarily shy away from that. The other guy, though,

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Speaker 1: that I am intrigued by his Josh Rosen on the Cardinals,

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Speaker 1: Sam Bradford. I'm sure he's gonna get first dibbs. But

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Speaker 1: from a long term perspective, Rosen is obviously the guy

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Speaker 1: of the future in Arizona. I like to see what

601
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 1: Rosy could do in Arizona. I like some of the

602
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Speaker 1: talent around him, especially with the running game and the

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00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 1: offensive line that they've improved. So that's a quarterback that

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Speaker 1: I think could very well thrive early on if he

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Speaker 1: stays on the field and doesn't wind up running into

606
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Speaker 1: some injury situations. If that doesn't happen, I'm inclined to

607
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,280
Speaker 1: agree with you and that I think he's in a

608
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 1: pretty good position there to win a bunch of games. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so Rosen would top my list based on that question. Okay,

610
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 1: all right, thanks to take I'm a call, And one

611
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 1: thing he really quick I wanted to say was that

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Speaker 1: I think we should definitely get back drc um. The

613
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 1: fact that you know, I remember there's a songball game

614
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:49,240
Speaker 1: where he was questioned about maybe returning and the answer

615
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 1: he gave that let me know that, like there was

616
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 1: no real animosity between him and the team after he

617
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 1: was gone, you know, so, you know, because he was

618
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:58,560
Speaker 1: over the money thing. And some people can't handle money things,

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Speaker 1: you know, money situations. They get piste off, like I'm

620
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 1: not worth what I'm Inela's optimistic, I'm digging deep. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I can tribute, woo contribute for showcasing the real cream

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Speaker 1: on this program. I do appreciate the phone call, thanks

623
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Speaker 1: so much for weighing in. Let's go to Portland, Maine,

624
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 1: where the at turning point to the program takes place,

625
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 1: and that is Charlie. Charlie is on the line, Charlie. Yeah, day,

626
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 1: beautiful day up here today. Yes, we can relate to that. Yeah, Hey,

627
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Speaker 1: I just got two things. One thing is, I don't

628
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Speaker 1: understand why, like Nick Gates, right, he's a he was

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Speaker 1: a tackle. Why didn't we give him an opportunity to

630
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 1: play tackle, to be a tackle when we need tackles.

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Speaker 1: But then we bring in this guy and we want

632
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Speaker 1: to put him at guard when we got a hundred

633
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Speaker 1: guards and then we bring in this guy who was

634
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Speaker 1: a defense of tackle, trying to turn him into a tackle.

635
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Speaker 1: It doesn't make sense to me. Why not give Gates

636
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Speaker 1: the opportunity to play as a tackle If he sails

637
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Speaker 1: in the preseason, like Paul said, you said, like he's

638
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 1: going to be able to practice quad anyway most likely,

639
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Speaker 1: why don't you give him an opportunity to play the

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Speaker 1: position that he's been playing well. The only thing I

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Speaker 1: would say to you, Tourney is the scout work that

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Speaker 1: I did on him. I saw a lot of trouble

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Speaker 1: with the speed rushers off the edge, and I don't

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00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:32,960
Speaker 1: think he plays nearly as well given space out there.

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Speaker 1: To me, he's much more of a phone booth blocker,

646
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Speaker 1: and I like him very much. I told you that

647
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Speaker 1: I like this guy, but I see him as a

648
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Speaker 1: as an NFL guard because inside you can be in

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Speaker 1: that phone booth. And I will tell you I have

650
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Speaker 1: talked to a long time NFL veteran personnel guy again

651
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Speaker 1: not somebody in the building, and I said to him,

652
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Speaker 1: I want you to take a look at some of

653
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,480
Speaker 1: this stuff because I like this kid. Tell me what

654
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Speaker 1: you think. And he did it. He came back, his

655
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 1: scouting report was exactly what I saw. We agreed, this

656
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:09,719
Speaker 1: guy has all the technique, the tools, the demeanor. He

657
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Speaker 1: can be an NFL guard. There's not much doubt about that.

658
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Speaker 1: But he said the same thing to me. I would

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Speaker 1: not put him at tackle unless it was in the

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Speaker 1: middle of a game and an emergency situation. Because he

661
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 1: played it at Nebraska, I could throw him out there

662
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Speaker 1: without worrying that he's not going to have a clue.

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Speaker 1: But I would not want him playing tackle on a

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Speaker 1: regular basis out there, and at this level it's it's

665
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Speaker 1: asking too much for what his skill set is. So so,

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Speaker 1: do you think you've seen Jones Jones? Do you think

667
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:44,799
Speaker 1: this guy has a better technique and has a better

668
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Speaker 1: chance of being a tackle in this league than him?

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Speaker 1: I don't know that I think that either. Quite frankly,

670
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Speaker 1: I think I think the Giants. I think the Giants

671
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:57,880
Speaker 1: are very thin on the depth chart at offensive tackle.

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Speaker 1: I think that's the That's the best way I can

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Speaker 1: say it to you. Okay, okay. My other question was

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Speaker 1: if I know everybody doesn't have any urgency about getting

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Speaker 1: Beckham's contract done, um, and you guys don't seem to,

676
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:15,359
Speaker 1: which is fine, But I think the urgency is gonna come.

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00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:18,440
Speaker 1: If he doesn't have a contract by September nine, I

678
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:21,440
Speaker 1: think there's going to be a big problem. And I

679
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Speaker 1: am hoping that they will get it done before September nine,

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Speaker 1: or at least on September nine in the morning before

681
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Speaker 1: the game. Um, don't you think there'll be an issue

682
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 1: in a problem if Beckham doesn't have a contract by

683
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Speaker 1: at least the first game. The only thing I'll say,

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Speaker 1: Charlie is that you know the way the media swirls things,

685
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Speaker 1: especially around here, and the writers will have a feast

686
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Speaker 1: if Beckham does execute any type of holdout. I would

687
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:52,440
Speaker 1: say this to you though from a football perspective, knowing

688
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 1: the way he works out and the way he prepares.

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Speaker 1: Do you remember in Joe Morris held out and didn't

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Speaker 1: actually sign his deal with the Giant It's until hours

691
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:04,840
Speaker 1: before they played the Cowboys opening night, And what happened,

692
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 1: what happened to the eighties six Giants? What happened to

693
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 1: Joe Marris that year? Turned out that holdout was long

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Speaker 1: forgotten very quickly, and and they had a Super Bowl season.

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Speaker 1: So I would say to you from a football perspective.

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Speaker 1: Although I don't like guys missing all that time, Odell

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Speaker 1: Beckham is not goofing off. If you've seen any of

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Speaker 1: his videos, you know he's preparing, and I'm quite confident.

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Speaker 1: I'm quite confident that if hypothetically he doesn't sign un

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Speaker 1: till the day of that opening game, I'm quite confident

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Speaker 1: it's not going to impact his season. And Charlie, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna let you go on that note. Plus something, He's

703
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Speaker 1: been essentially present for every single mandatory matchup and practiced

704
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Speaker 1: thus far, so I don't think it's an overwhelming concern.

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Speaker 1: And the Giants also have the franchise tag in the

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Speaker 1: event that they don't get anything done, that's always a

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Speaker 1: weapon based on the CB. All right, we're gonna turn

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Speaker 1: our attention now to a divisional foe for the Giants

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Speaker 1: as he continue to preview the two thousand and eighteen

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Speaker 1: opponents or now joined by a very special guest. He's

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Speaker 1: the play by play voice of the Washington Redskins on

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Speaker 1: the radio, and that is Larry Michael. Larry got Lance

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Speaker 1: Middle pull the Tito with here on Giants dot Com.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate the time, How's everything? Everything is fantastic? Apologize for

715
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Speaker 1: being a little bit late, but we're getting ready, getting

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00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 1: ready for a little little vacation and camp, and so

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Speaker 1: you're not enough the time in the day. You know,

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Speaker 1: great to talk to you again, Larry, I, I guess

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Speaker 1: we would really be remissing we didn't start with the

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Speaker 1: whole quarterback thing, because, man, every time we've talked to

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Speaker 1: you for the last three or four years, we've been

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Speaker 1: talking about Kirk Cousins, and now he's gone, and I

723
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 1: guess we're still going to talk about him for at

724
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Speaker 1: least a few seconds here because they've made the change

725
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Speaker 1: and Alex Smith is now the guy. What has that

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Speaker 1: transition been like here during the spring months. Well, I'll

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Speaker 1: tell you what, guys, it's it's been an interesting transition.

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Speaker 1: And I think the fact that the person that has

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Speaker 1: come in here, Alex Smith, the maturity level that he has,

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Speaker 1: has made the transition very smooth. Is a guy that's

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Speaker 1: been been there, done that, as a saying goes, He's

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Speaker 1: played at the top of his game most recently last year,

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Speaker 1: I mean best year he's coming off of as a pro.

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Speaker 1: And he's the guy that comes in and is very

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Speaker 1: confident in himself. He's not trying to find himself. He's

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Speaker 1: not trying to promote himself on social media. He's not.

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Speaker 1: He has no agenda other than to get the one

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Speaker 1: thing that has eluded him, and that's winning the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: So for this football team, he's been the perfect fit

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Speaker 1: because it's it's not just the last three years we've

741
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Speaker 1: had a quarterback really be the spotlight of the team.

742
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Speaker 1: You're really looking back three years prior to that as well,

743
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Speaker 1: when Robert was here. So we've had We've had some

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00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 1: young guys in here who have made a name for

745
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:39,920
Speaker 1: themselves to varying degrees, and but the team hasn't one.

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Speaker 1: They haven't won the they haven't gotten with the playoffs

747
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Speaker 1: as often as they've liked. And you know, it's it

748
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:47,920
Speaker 1: was funny when Alex Smith arrived at a chance to

749
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Speaker 1: spend some time with him and get to know him

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Speaker 1: a little bit. And in fact I asked him about

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Speaker 1: the social media and I can't say on the air

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Speaker 1: what he said, but he says, why the blank, what

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Speaker 1: I want that I'm here to win football games, which

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00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:04,960
Speaker 1: you know, does somebody like me? Well that's music to

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Speaker 1: my ears, because you know that's what it's all about.

756
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:10,719
Speaker 1: You know. You know, again this day and age, all

757
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Speaker 1: the players have a right to self promote and do

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Speaker 1: what they have to do on their on their own

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Speaker 1: social media. But if if you don't win, you've got

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Speaker 1: to evaluate how you spend your time. And so for

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Speaker 1: this guy, the most important he's got a beautiful family.

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Speaker 1: Of course, his family is important to him, but winning

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00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 1: is important. And Jake Gruden realizes he has a veteran

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Speaker 1: quarterback who already knows the West Coast offense, doesn't really

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Speaker 1: have to teach him how to play in the quarterback position.

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Speaker 1: But they got to get on the same page. And

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Speaker 1: that's why this offseason has been important. Coach was asked

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Speaker 1: the other day one of the press conferences during the

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Speaker 1: o t S, you know, how long does it take

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Speaker 1: a veteran quarterback to get acclimated in this offense? He said, well,

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Speaker 1: he'd better be ready week one. It's not like we

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Speaker 1: have any time beyond that. So I like the way

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Speaker 1: I like the way alex Is stepped in. And he's

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Speaker 1: not he's not a real vociferous guy, but he's a

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Speaker 1: very confident guy. And and and and really what he

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Speaker 1: what he does bring, he brings something that the team

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Speaker 1: hasn't had in a while. I'm looking back and the

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Speaker 1: days of Mark Brunelle being here, where you had a

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Speaker 1: leader who was an experience in a quarterback who everybody knew,

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Speaker 1: he knew every angle of approach, and that hasn't been

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Speaker 1: the case. You've had young guys in these positions the

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Speaker 1: last few years. So it's it's been an interesting transition.

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Speaker 1: I think he's an impressive individual. Well let me ask

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Speaker 1: you this, Larry. For the guy who's watching the Redskins

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00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:27,759
Speaker 1: on his television at home, or the guys who are

786
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Speaker 1: sitting in the seats and watching them on game day,

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Speaker 1: how do you believe this offense will differ to their

788
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 1: eyes as they have this new quarterback operating behind center.

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Speaker 1: We know what Alex Smith's reputation was with San Francisco

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Speaker 1: as a game manager. Then he goes to Kansas City

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Speaker 1: and he starts throwing some more deep balls and has

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Speaker 1: some success doing it. What will this offense look like

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Speaker 1: with a different guy? Well, that's a great question, and

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Speaker 1: I think, what do you want it to look like?

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Speaker 1: Or what's it gonna look like? And I think one

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Speaker 1: of the missing links the last few years has been

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Speaker 1: a consistent running game and I think if you look

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Speaker 1: at Alex success at Kansas City, he's had a pretty

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Speaker 1: good running game. He's had some dynamic playmakers around him.

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Speaker 1: And obviously you have to rely on the talent around here.

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Speaker 1: You can't do it yourself. The one person this year

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Speaker 1: for the Redskins I think that is going to be

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Speaker 1: an eye opener is Darius Skies, the running back. Kind

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00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 1: of fell in their lap in the second round. He

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00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:28,400
Speaker 1: has looked very impressive. Uh and all of the offseason

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00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 1: workouts again, you know, you're not pads all the same

807
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:32,400
Speaker 1: trite stuff that we here a week after week, but

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Speaker 1: you can only judge what you've seen, and this guy's

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00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 1: this guy is a pretty good football player. And I think,

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Speaker 1: added to the guys that have got back from injury,

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Speaker 1: I think the running game is going to have to

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Speaker 1: succeed for us to see the best of Alex Smith.

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Speaker 1: And Alex is part of that running game. We know

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Speaker 1: he likes to tucket and go. He's a he's a big,

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Speaker 1: strong guy. I mean he's a he's an imposing physical specimen.

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Speaker 1: When you stand next to him, you know he's a

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Speaker 1: pretty big guy. He's he's he's he's a strong looking individual,

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Speaker 1: but the running game hasn't really off them ount last

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Speaker 1: couple of years. I mean, I think last year it

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Speaker 1: was under under four yards of carry, which isn't going

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Speaker 1: to get it done. And then red zone as well.

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Speaker 1: I think the two things you're gonna see different this

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Speaker 1: year is success in the red zone, and you're banking

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Speaker 1: on the experience of Alex Smith and obviously how he

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Speaker 1: melts in with the coaching staff here in the play

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Speaker 1: calling and a running game. Those are the two things

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Speaker 1: that you're gonna see. If you're gonna be looking at

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Speaker 1: the Redskins offensive over this year and you're gonna want

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Speaker 1: to see them do better, I think they're gonna see

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Speaker 1: them do better running the ball and red zone offense

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Speaker 1: without that Alex's performance. I mean, I don't want to

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Speaker 1: say Kirk's performance was meaningless because Kirk put a lot

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Speaker 1: of yardage up there. You put a ton of yardage

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Speaker 1: up there, and he played pretty good football. But you know, redskin,

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Speaker 1: a red zone success wasn't what you wanted, and you're

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Speaker 1: running game wasn't what you wanted, and Kirk didn't have

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Speaker 1: much to do with the running game, But of course

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Speaker 1: that has to be a tool that he can use.

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Speaker 1: And I know you guys up with the Giants the

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00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:56,320
Speaker 1: same type of thing. You know, I can remember the

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Speaker 1: days when I first started with the Redskins, man Tikey

842
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 1: Barber used to chill the Redskins and then Brandon Jacobs

843
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 1: did for a couple of years too, who hadn't been

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Speaker 1: the case the last few years. And now you've got

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Speaker 1: the best back out of college football who's certainly going

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00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 1: to help the team. So I think maybe you're looking

847
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 1: at so similarity there that the running game for both

848
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 1: these franchises stands to be much better this year by

849
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:18,880
Speaker 1: virtue of what they've done. Of course, both teams also

850
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:23,400
Speaker 1: need to make sure that offensive line Redskins, it's health

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Speaker 1: Redskins itself. And you know, again we're very close to

852
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 1: the Giants, Cowboys, and Eagles because we see them so often,

853
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 1: and especially for those of us on the East Coast, obviously,

854
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:34,239
Speaker 1: you know, pay attention to what's happening on the East coast,

855
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 1: East Coast football teams and the Giants offensive line and

856
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 1: what it used to be years ago. So that's another

857
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:41,879
Speaker 1: thing that's gonna have to be short up on. Both

858
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:44,840
Speaker 1: teams have those concerns. I think as training camps on

859
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:47,800
Speaker 1: the horizon, Well, Larry's being the offensive line in the

860
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 1: running game, I think one of the contributors why maybe

861
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:52,440
Speaker 1: there's been some ups and downs over the last few

862
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:54,319
Speaker 1: seasons is because of the injury bug. I mean, it

863
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 1: seems as if the Redskins used a plethora of different

864
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 1: backs after they drafted some I JP Ryan, Chris Thom's

865
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:01,840
Speaker 1: and suffered a season ending injury, and then on the

866
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:05,319
Speaker 1: offensive line change at center Spencer Long now leaves in

867
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 1: free agency. You know, in terms of consistency, how does

868
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:12,880
Speaker 1: this offensive look like from a stability standpoint during this season?

869
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 1: And with respect to the running game. If Geiss, as

870
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:18,320
Speaker 1: you mentioned, was a great value pick, it becomes the workhorse.

871
00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:20,759
Speaker 1: What does that mean for players like Thompson and p

872
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:24,880
Speaker 1: Rhyan moving forward? Well, yeah, that's a good question, and

873
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:27,040
Speaker 1: there's a kind of a lock jam. Running Back Rob

874
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:30,239
Speaker 1: Kelly is another one. P rhyme per virtue of being

875
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:32,920
Speaker 1: a fourth round pick last year. Had some signs last year.

876
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:34,960
Speaker 1: I mean, he didn't really carry the whole load. He

877
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:36,879
Speaker 1: looks like he could become a pretty good back. Chris

878
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 1: Thompson I thought was on his way too. By far

879
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:42,120
Speaker 1: his best year as a pro and books were on

880
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 1: here felt he was having a Pro Bowl season as

881
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:47,960
Speaker 1: a third down back and that that's a he blossomed

882
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:49,880
Speaker 1: last year. And I gotta tell you at the beginning

883
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:52,279
Speaker 1: of the year, especially the win at the Rams, I

884
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:54,479
Speaker 1: mean there was some there was some place he made

885
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:56,839
Speaker 1: that that he wouldn't have made the years passed and

886
00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:59,399
Speaker 1: and he's coming back from a broken leg and he's

887
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:01,279
Speaker 1: been ready to I think he's a player who's gonna

888
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 1: be I think he's about ready now. But they've been cautious.

889
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:08,759
Speaker 1: So you you identify a situation here where you know

890
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:11,880
Speaker 1: somebody good is not going to make the football team.

891
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 1: And I think that's good news if you're following the Redskins.

892
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:17,239
Speaker 1: If you're gonna be letting go good football players, that

893
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:19,239
Speaker 1: means you've evaluated the players that are better and you're

894
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:21,319
Speaker 1: gonna go with a better player. That is a guy

895
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 1: named the Capri Bibs who came in last year due

896
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 1: to injury, and he had a couple of nice games

897
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 1: for the Redskins. And again he's the third down back.

898
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 1: So how many backs can you carry? This is a

899
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 1: team that hasn't carried a full back the last couple

900
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:35,800
Speaker 1: of years. I doubt they will this year. Tight end situation.

901
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 1: It's a numbers team. How many offensive linemen. It goes

902
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:40,000
Speaker 1: down to the same thing with these teams every year

903
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:42,400
Speaker 1: when you're looking at a log jam at the position,

904
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:48,279
Speaker 1: I think guys Rob Kelly, Um, probably Chris Thompson and

905
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:49,839
Speaker 1: p Ryan. I mean, those are gonna be your four

906
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:52,800
Speaker 1: bractic backs if you go with four. And Rob Kelly

907
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:55,320
Speaker 1: has had some pretty good moments as a Redskin, but

908
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 1: again last year got hurt. And now you draft a player,

909
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:01,799
Speaker 1: I mean, you're not gonna keep guys in bubble wrap.

910
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 1: I don't see that happening. He might get eased in

911
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:06,480
Speaker 1: there somehow, but sooner or later you're gonna have to

912
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 1: cut him, cut him loose, and let him do what

913
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 1: he was drafted to do. And he's shown a lot

914
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 1: of promise. So you guys have identified a position there

915
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 1: that there is uh. And it's funny how a season

916
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:21,440
Speaker 1: changes that. Last year you're literally are picking guys up

917
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:24,360
Speaker 1: off the street to have them fill that position, and

918
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 1: this year, uh, you know, due to recovery by Chris

919
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 1: Thompson and Kelly, they're pretty good shape there. You know,

920
00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:34,960
Speaker 1: if the offensive line does what they need to do

921
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 1: when the running game gets it done, while you still

922
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 1: need production out of the wide receivers. And you know,

923
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 1: to me, Larry, I don't know. I know Crowder put

924
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 1: up a lot of catches, but doesn't get into the

925
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 1: end zone a whole lot. Dodson, I think, I think

926
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:52,439
Speaker 1: to this point you probably would say he's a bit underwhelming.

927
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 1: I think you probably wanted a little more out of

928
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:57,520
Speaker 1: him a little sooner. But but where do you see

929
00:46:57,520 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 1: this receiving corpse shaking out in terms of guys who

930
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 1: are going to make the biggest plays. Well, I think

931
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 1: you know it's time for Duxton to step up. And

932
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:07,600
Speaker 1: I think his first year was injury plagued his rookie

933
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 1: year as a first round pick. I mean, he didn't

934
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 1: get on the field very much. He was hurt during

935
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 1: the off season. So for him, you know, I almost

936
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:15,440
Speaker 1: look at last year as being his first year. And

937
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:18,360
Speaker 1: he'll tell you himself he made some real big catches,

938
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 1: but he dropped a couple of balls, and one of

939
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 1: the balls against the Kansas City Chiefs could have won

940
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:25,400
Speaker 1: that game, and it was a very hard catch. But

941
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:27,480
Speaker 1: I think you see, you've seen an injurase in his

942
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 1: maturity to be able to sit here admit what he

943
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 1: has to work on, and you can just see him.

944
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 1: He is. Uh. He's much more comfortable this year than

945
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:38,520
Speaker 1: he's been in the first two years, just by virtue

946
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:40,600
Speaker 1: of knowing what he has to do. Crowd is in

947
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:42,520
Speaker 1: the final year of his contract. I mean, he's gotta

948
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:44,880
Speaker 1: he's got to put those numbers up. He started slowly

949
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:47,840
Speaker 1: last year, had a hamstring early. By the end of

950
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 1: the year. He's a very reliable slot receiver and yes,

951
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 1: you guys are right, it's got to get in the

952
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 1: end zone more often. Brought Paul richards sit in last

953
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 1: year with the departure of Garson and de Sean Jackson,

954
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:02,800
Speaker 1: they probably he didn't have that speed guy to replace

955
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 1: de Sean Jackson, and Paul Richardson has been better than

956
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:09,480
Speaker 1: advertised in terms of the off season so far. Again,

957
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 1: he's got a pretty good upside In Seattle. He had

958
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:14,439
Speaker 1: a decent year. I think he had about forty nine

959
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:16,840
Speaker 1: catches the average about seventeen yards of catch. He's a

960
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 1: speed receiver. You'll see him in the mix. And the

961
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 1: Redskins have a whole a whole group of young guys

962
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:26,680
Speaker 1: that are are just young potential receivers. A guy like

963
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:29,319
Speaker 1: Moll Harris made a couple of catches last year, got

964
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 1: like Robert Davis, six pound receiver, practice squad guy last

965
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:37,239
Speaker 1: Year's look very impressive during the offseason this year. So

966
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 1: but you're you're looking at You're looking at Josh Docks

967
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 1: and needing to ascend to what should have been. Um,

968
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:45,279
Speaker 1: you know, the potential of a number one pick. I

969
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:47,399
Speaker 1: think you know he's got that in him. Uh, this

970
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:49,400
Speaker 1: is the year he's gonna have to do it. And

971
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 1: Crowder again. You know you're talking about a guy that

972
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:56,279
Speaker 1: might get balls but around the red zone again. And

973
00:48:56,680 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 1: I don't think you can have this conversation without talking

974
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 1: about the absence of Jordan Read, who's not your typical

975
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 1: tight end. He is a hybrid tight end. Even though

976
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:07,439
Speaker 1: he's put some weight on he's he's looking to become

977
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:11,759
Speaker 1: a better blocker, but he provides options underneath that helped

978
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:14,120
Speaker 1: the entire passing game and that was missing last year.

979
00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 1: So he's the wild card. He's coming back from injury

980
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:18,640
Speaker 1: and he's been working hard. I think he'll be fine.

981
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:21,480
Speaker 1: I think for a quarterback like Alex Smith to have

982
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 1: Jordan Read healthy and available, Jordan Read could end up

983
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:28,280
Speaker 1: being a leading pass catcher on this team just because

984
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:30,520
Speaker 1: of the way he plays and how it fits into

985
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:33,200
Speaker 1: the game that they're looking for. You know, you look,

986
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:35,319
Speaker 1: you look at Kansas City last year. The tight end

987
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 1: pretty good tight end there, pretty good tight end, propol

988
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:40,560
Speaker 1: tight end. And Jordan Reads the same type of player.

989
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:43,120
Speaker 1: And you know there's the old man, Vernon Davis who

990
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:46,560
Speaker 1: stepped in last year and during that time, and I

991
00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:49,160
Speaker 1: don't know, the guy keeps himself in great, great condition.

992
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:51,040
Speaker 1: I mean, there's not a better conditioned guy. And it's

993
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:53,080
Speaker 1: a a lesson to learn. You get to be about

994
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:54,879
Speaker 1: thirty four and you've been through the wars and this

995
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 1: guy is just ripped and he just never lets himself

996
00:49:57,560 --> 00:50:00,759
Speaker 1: get out of shape. Beneficiary last year a pretty good year.

997
00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:03,440
Speaker 1: Now thinking of him as a complimentary player to a

998
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:06,520
Speaker 1: healthy Jordan Read. Now you're talking about weapons that Alex

999
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:09,000
Speaker 1: Smith can work with, but the wide receiving COIs and again,

1000
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:10,560
Speaker 1: I think you got to look at Josh Stackson to

1001
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:12,799
Speaker 1: be the leading guy this year. It's time for him

1002
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:15,799
Speaker 1: to do it. So Larry Michael Redskins Radio play by

1003
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:18,600
Speaker 1: Playboys and It's interesting you brought up Vernon Davis because

1004
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:21,239
Speaker 1: I agree with you, Larry that you know, Jordan Read

1005
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:23,719
Speaker 1: is such a wild card X factor. The question is

1006
00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:26,480
Speaker 1: can he stay healthy. He's ever played full sixteen game season.

1007
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:28,960
Speaker 1: But you know, Vernon, I thought did fill in admirably

1008
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:30,799
Speaker 1: last season. And the other thing is, you know, he

1009
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 1: and Alex Smith have familiarity with one another because they

1010
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:35,880
Speaker 1: both played together in San Francisco. So how much is

1011
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:38,960
Speaker 1: that perhaps a difference maker? Knowing that if you go

1012
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:41,160
Speaker 1: back to Alex Smith's days with the Niners, he's always

1013
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:44,359
Speaker 1: usually built good chemistry with that tight end position. Who

1014
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:47,959
Speaker 1: has been a nice security blanket. Well, you know when

1015
00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:51,799
Speaker 1: when Alex, when the rumor actually the trade came down,

1016
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:54,200
Speaker 1: we were at the Super Bowl. You guys might remember that.

1017
00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:57,960
Speaker 1: It happened super Bowl week and Vernon Davis was at

1018
00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:01,480
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl because he was promoting the US curling team.

1019
00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:04,680
Speaker 1: He was a spokesperson for the US curling team. I

1020
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:06,160
Speaker 1: don't know if you guys knew that or not, but

1021
00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:11,239
Speaker 1: those trivial pieces of information. But but the day, the

1022
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:13,359
Speaker 1: day that the trade was announced at the Super Bowl,

1023
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:15,840
Speaker 1: and Vernon was there and he was smiling here to

1024
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:17,640
Speaker 1: He says, you're not gonna believe with this guy's about

1025
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 1: And I think he realized that Alex Smith coming here

1026
00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:25,040
Speaker 1: could add years to his career because they have that

1027
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:27,560
Speaker 1: type of a connection. I mean, Vernon Davis has called

1028
00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:30,200
Speaker 1: more passes from Alex Smith than anybody else, has got

1029
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:33,520
Speaker 1: more touchdown passes from Alex Smith than anybody else. These

1030
00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:36,920
Speaker 1: guys are close, close buddies from the time in San Francisco,

1031
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 1: and for them to be reunited at this point in

1032
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:42,719
Speaker 1: their careers, after what they've each been through, I think

1033
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:44,319
Speaker 1: they look at each other and say, man, we're in

1034
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:46,640
Speaker 1: a special spot here. Let's make it special by winning

1035
00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:50,279
Speaker 1: some games. So it's an exciting dynamic. I don't know

1036
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:53,080
Speaker 1: how much. I mean, obviously Vernon again, he turns back

1037
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:56,920
Speaker 1: father time year after year again. If Jordan Read is healthy,

1038
00:51:57,120 --> 00:51:59,880
Speaker 1: Vernon Davis has not lost much speed up the scene,

1039
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:02,200
Speaker 1: they'll go right up to hash up the numbers and

1040
00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:05,000
Speaker 1: he'll be able to beat a safety discovering him just

1041
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:07,880
Speaker 1: with his speed, which opens up some other possibilities for

1042
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:10,720
Speaker 1: the offense. But if you're gonna focus on Vernon Davis

1043
00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:12,879
Speaker 1: to be your your number one tight end, because Jordan

1044
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:16,520
Speaker 1: Reed isn't there. You're not only putting Vernon in a

1045
00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:19,160
Speaker 1: almost an over tax situation, but in a situation that's

1046
00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:21,040
Speaker 1: going to tax him, and then you don't have your

1047
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:23,879
Speaker 1: biggest weapon, Jordan Read out there either. So I think

1048
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:25,840
Speaker 1: that dynamic plays off of both of them. As a

1049
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:29,080
Speaker 1: young tight end, Jeremy Sprinkle, a draft pick from last year,

1050
00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:32,239
Speaker 1: got a taste of NFL action. He's a big, imposing

1051
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:34,720
Speaker 1: presence and for the run game that's gonna be good news.

1052
00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:38,719
Speaker 1: But healthy Jordan Read is gonna compliment Vernon Davis and

1053
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:41,439
Speaker 1: vice a versus. So I mean that's a dynamic this year.

1054
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:45,160
Speaker 1: An off season shirt is going to be the status

1055
00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:47,320
Speaker 1: of status of Jordan Read once we get the training

1056
00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:50,160
Speaker 1: camp and you know, but and again, you've got some

1057
00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:52,359
Speaker 1: guys here that didn't practice. Do they start a pup.

1058
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:55,160
Speaker 1: We're gonna wait and see. We don't know yet. We'll

1059
00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:56,920
Speaker 1: see how they how it goes when they report down

1060
00:52:56,960 --> 00:52:59,560
Speaker 1: there in July. You don't, Lauren, let me flip it

1061
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:01,759
Speaker 1: to deep and and talk about another guy who's kind

1062
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:05,600
Speaker 1: of trying to fight farther time, if you will, Orlando Skandrick,

1063
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:08,160
Speaker 1: who was certainly one of the more familiar names who

1064
00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:10,840
Speaker 1: was now new to this Redskins roster, not new to

1065
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:13,359
Speaker 1: the division of course, having played a lot of years

1066
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:15,840
Speaker 1: with the Dallas Cowboys. I know they believe he's going

1067
00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:18,360
Speaker 1: to be an upgrade to that secondary and and we

1068
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:20,480
Speaker 1: know that in the last couple of years the Redskins

1069
00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:23,840
Speaker 1: have gone defensive line with their number one draft choices.

1070
00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:26,680
Speaker 1: So if you could address how you think those guys

1071
00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:30,759
Speaker 1: will improve the defense, Well, you know Skandrick, you know,

1072
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:32,880
Speaker 1: it's kind of a funny story. He came here for

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00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:35,440
Speaker 1: a visit and then he was signed, and before you

1074
00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:38,240
Speaker 1: knew it, he was sitting here and the TV studio

1075
00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:40,399
Speaker 1: with me and we do a daily Redskins Nation show

1076
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:42,600
Speaker 1: here locally, and he was sitting here. He could not

1077
00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:45,239
Speaker 1: believe he was a Washington rescuing He just couldn't believe it.

1078
00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:48,400
Speaker 1: He's a lifelong cowboy and he was he was. I

1079
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:50,560
Speaker 1: would say, I mean, I think the state of shock

1080
00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:52,960
Speaker 1: might be a way of to describe how he how

1081
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:56,800
Speaker 1: he seemed. But since then, and he's a great veteran,

1082
00:53:56,840 --> 00:53:58,640
Speaker 1: and he's got all the angles, and I think he's

1083
00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:01,080
Speaker 1: a great teammate for these guys. I think that a

1084
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:04,319
Speaker 1: veteran like that who can play slot or corner, and

1085
00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:06,120
Speaker 1: he didn't mind coming off the bench. I know he

1086
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:08,719
Speaker 1: wants to be a starter. And with the departure of

1087
00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:11,200
Speaker 1: Bishard Brilliant, you kind of have a spot over there.

1088
00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:14,200
Speaker 1: You've got Clinton Dunbar, a player, he showed a great promise.

1089
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:17,480
Speaker 1: He's improved every year he's he's there as a potential starter.

1090
00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:22,759
Speaker 1: You've got Fabian Moreau, a high draft pick. Light would

1091
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:24,600
Speaker 1: have been a second or first round pick if he

1092
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:26,919
Speaker 1: hadn't torn his peck in his pro day. He got

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00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:30,040
Speaker 1: through his first year as a pro, and he's expected

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00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:32,160
Speaker 1: to take a step up this year. And you've got

1095
00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:34,480
Speaker 1: Josh Norman, who is in the I mean the guys

1096
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:36,400
Speaker 1: in the best shape of his life. I don't know,

1097
00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:38,960
Speaker 1: I don't know how how often this guy takes a break.

1098
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:41,040
Speaker 1: He seems to be working out twenty four hours a day.

1099
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:43,120
Speaker 1: So you know, you hope that you hope one of

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00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:47,080
Speaker 1: these guys steps up. I think sken Rick specifically is

1101
00:54:47,080 --> 00:55:02,440
Speaker 1: going to help with the department. So Skendrick, if nothing else,

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00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:05,600
Speaker 1: would be your slot corner, and he'd he'd be a

1103
00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:08,360
Speaker 1: capable replacement. You know, I remember Mrs Cowboy's kind of

1104
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:10,799
Speaker 1: weird still seeing him here, But after having a couple

1105
00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:19,000
Speaker 1: of meals with him and Norton, I think maybe he

1106
00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:21,560
Speaker 1: and Calvin Hills should have some dinner together. They can

1107
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:25,160
Speaker 1: commiserate about that kind of switch. Right. That's another one. Yeah,

1108
00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:27,200
Speaker 1: we see Calvin Hill, you know, I mean, obviously it's

1109
00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:29,480
Speaker 1: a Calvin Hill is a complex guy. I mean, his

1110
00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:33,879
Speaker 1: son grew up ten minutes from Redskins Park, Grant Hill,

1111
00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:38,720
Speaker 1: and so he's he's a local kid. And Calvin h Manuel,

1112
00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:42,640
Speaker 1: Calvin got blown up as a cowboy. Famous famous tape

1113
00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:45,840
Speaker 1: one of the Walk Garrison game when Mark Harrison got Cavil,

1114
00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:48,160
Speaker 1: Calvinhill got knocked out by Mike Pass and Calvin Hill

1115
00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:50,680
Speaker 1: became a Redskin. Calvin Calvin Hill lives in d C.

1116
00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:52,799
Speaker 1: But he works for the Cowboys. I can't keep up

1117
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:59,160
Speaker 1: with them. Okay, It's quite a triangle in terms of

1118
00:55:59,160 --> 00:56:02,400
Speaker 1: all the connections. We then the division. Last one for me, Larry.

1119
00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:04,680
Speaker 1: I wanted Larry to finish up on Allen and Pain

1120
00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:09,200
Speaker 1: the two first round picks. That's what I was gonna

1121
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:12,560
Speaker 1: This is what you're talking about. This is the exciting

1122
00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:14,839
Speaker 1: part of this football team is the defensive line, which

1123
00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:17,279
Speaker 1: is not not been the strongest part of this team

1124
00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:18,920
Speaker 1: over the last couple of years. But it goes to

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00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:21,760
Speaker 1: show you if you're going to invest in some top picks,

1126
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:24,719
Speaker 1: and you've got two of them in there, and both

1127
00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:27,600
Speaker 1: you know right now those guys are gonna compete. I

1128
00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:29,520
Speaker 1: think you'll both see that. You'll see them both starting.

1129
00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:33,200
Speaker 1: But you know, Jonathan is coming off an injury last year.

1130
00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:35,759
Speaker 1: He could have come back last year. They didn't bring

1131
00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:37,879
Speaker 1: him back. They wanted to, you know, the riskins weren't

1132
00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:39,680
Speaker 1: go on with the playoffs. They didn't try them out there,

1133
00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:42,160
Speaker 1: you know, without any training. After he heard his foot

1134
00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:44,520
Speaker 1: and and he was off to a great start, paying

1135
00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:46,960
Speaker 1: looks to be a bigger presence. I think he might

1136
00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:49,480
Speaker 1: find him in the middle of that front three at

1137
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:52,319
Speaker 1: least on first down, and everybody's hung up on four

1138
00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:55,200
Speaker 1: three versus three four, but you know, you know two

1139
00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:57,040
Speaker 1: thirds at the time, they've got a four man front.

1140
00:56:57,080 --> 00:56:59,480
Speaker 1: You guys know what that's all about. It's a constant

1141
00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:02,640
Speaker 1: miss that at different packages. Every single play it's a

1142
00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:04,839
Speaker 1: different package. But then you got a guy like Tim

1143
00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:07,879
Speaker 1: Suttle who dropped to them in the later rounds. High

1144
00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:10,600
Speaker 1: upside twenty year old nose tackle lot of Virginia tech,

1145
00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:12,920
Speaker 1: very well trained. You got a couple of guys like

1146
00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:16,320
Speaker 1: anthw the Neier near last year after a year of grooming,

1147
00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:20,280
Speaker 1: became a pass rushing force. And another guy who you

1148
00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:22,800
Speaker 1: know is very raw, but each year he's taken a

1149
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:27,480
Speaker 1: step up. Matt Ionitis out of Jersey went to Temple.

1150
00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:29,600
Speaker 1: I mean, he's a kid. Last year who again, when

1151
00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:32,600
Speaker 1: Jonathan Allen was there, these guys were extremely formidable. I

1152
00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:35,680
Speaker 1: think that was the key to the Redskin success defensively

1153
00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:38,600
Speaker 1: earlier in the year when they were healthy and all

1154
00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:41,320
Speaker 1: they made. Average age on this defensive line is about

1155
00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:44,520
Speaker 1: twenty two years old, so I mean Ziggy Hoods the

1156
00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:46,959
Speaker 1: veteran of the group, but the rest of these guys

1157
00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:49,280
Speaker 1: are all draft picks over the last couple of years.

1158
00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:52,600
Speaker 1: And so and Jim tom Sula is just a just

1159
00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:57,400
Speaker 1: an incredible defensive line coach. Uh He's part teacher, part father, figure,

1160
00:57:57,480 --> 00:57:59,520
Speaker 1: part mentor guru, whatever you want to call him. And

1161
00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:02,520
Speaker 1: these guys they live by the teachings of tom Sula

1162
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:04,880
Speaker 1: and he's an outstanding coach. So I think you know,

1163
00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:08,080
Speaker 1: what would have been a weakness midway through last year

1164
00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:10,800
Speaker 1: and now has turned into one of the deeper positions

1165
00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:12,720
Speaker 1: on the team by virtue of the way they've drafted.

1166
00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:15,440
Speaker 1: And again, you know, you can't you can't predict health.

1167
00:58:16,040 --> 00:58:19,560
Speaker 1: You couldn't have predicted nineteen players on injured reserve last year.

1168
00:58:19,640 --> 00:58:22,440
Speaker 1: So you hope that you know the law of averages

1169
00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:24,600
Speaker 1: and the football gods even out this year. If you

1170
00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:27,520
Speaker 1: you're a Ridskin fan because you can't stand another injured

1171
00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:29,800
Speaker 1: year like last year. Well, and I think the Giants

1172
00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:31,680
Speaker 1: can relate to that, to Larry, given all of the

1173
00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:34,120
Speaker 1: injuries that they struggled with the early in the season.

1174
00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:37,320
Speaker 1: Absolutely it put both of these teams depth charts to

1175
00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:40,360
Speaker 1: the true test. And that literally was the big difference

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00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:42,240
Speaker 1: even in this division when you look at what became

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00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:44,520
Speaker 1: of Philadelphia and the last one for me before we

1178
00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:46,320
Speaker 1: let you go, Larry, you know, given the fact that

1179
00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:49,040
Speaker 1: you like us, you see the full division, you know,

1180
00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:52,680
Speaker 1: what's your take in terms of perhaps the differential between

1181
00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:55,400
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, the Eagles, the Redskins and the Giants. I

1182
00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:57,240
Speaker 1: know it usually comes down to the wire. We have

1183
00:58:57,320 --> 00:58:59,240
Speaker 1: not had a back to back division winner since the

1184
00:58:59,240 --> 00:59:01,480
Speaker 1: Eagles won four in a role in the early two thousands.

1185
00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:03,800
Speaker 1: How do you see this season playing out within this

1186
00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:07,120
Speaker 1: nucleus of teams. Well, I mean, you know, I think

1187
00:59:07,120 --> 00:59:09,680
Speaker 1: we all have the mutual feeling about the Cowboys and

1188
00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:11,680
Speaker 1: they think, you know, you're gonna look at a different

1189
00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:14,800
Speaker 1: Cowboys offense this year. And Dak Prescott going into his

1190
00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:17,720
Speaker 1: final year at his contract. He's not going to get

1191
00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:20,360
Speaker 1: paid on the yardage game by a Zekial Elliott and

1192
00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:23,160
Speaker 1: he's losing a couple of weapons and Witting and Dez Bryant.

1193
00:59:23,160 --> 00:59:25,440
Speaker 1: We'll see how that sorts itself out. They still got

1194
00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:28,680
Speaker 1: a great offensive line the Giants. You know, to me,

1195
00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:30,560
Speaker 1: as long as Eli Manning's with the Giants and you

1196
00:59:30,560 --> 00:59:32,200
Speaker 1: can put that come out there. I'm a big fan

1197
00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:35,160
Speaker 1: of Barkley, you know, I think the Giants are always competitive.

1198
00:59:35,240 --> 00:59:38,800
Speaker 1: Philadelphia story. I've got a ton of respect for their

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00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:41,360
Speaker 1: head coach. I thought by the second half of the

1200
00:59:41,400 --> 00:59:45,920
Speaker 1: season he had everybody guessing his play calls. Remark he

1201
00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:48,200
Speaker 1: had everybody guessing. I think he did a great job.

1202
00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:51,280
Speaker 1: You do have the dynamic of the quarterback coming back

1203
00:59:51,320 --> 00:59:53,200
Speaker 1: and Quebec and the Super Bowl is gonna have to

1204
00:59:53,240 --> 00:59:55,840
Speaker 1: be patient and it went as ready he's gonna have

1205
00:59:55,880 --> 00:59:58,680
Speaker 1: to sit and so they they have the typical year

1206
00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:04,720
Speaker 1: after Super Bowl issues. I do think the divisions this year,

1207
01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:07,640
Speaker 1: one of these teams can win the division. I think

1208
01:00:07,720 --> 01:00:09,920
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to be fortunate when it comes to injuries,

1209
01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:13,320
Speaker 1: which really beat the Giants and Redskins up rather badly

1210
01:00:13,400 --> 01:00:15,520
Speaker 1: last year. I think you have to take advantage of

1211
01:00:15,520 --> 01:00:18,120
Speaker 1: your opportunities and you have to win your games at home,

1212
01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:20,520
Speaker 1: and for the Redskins that's been difficult against the Giants.

1213
01:00:20,560 --> 01:00:23,840
Speaker 1: They have not won as many conference games at home

1214
01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:26,360
Speaker 1: as they need to. So you win your home games,

1215
01:00:27,120 --> 01:00:29,200
Speaker 1: you do all in division. I think all these teams,

1216
01:00:29,480 --> 01:00:32,680
Speaker 1: barring a catastrophic injury, that could be in the running

1217
01:00:32,680 --> 01:00:34,000
Speaker 1: at the end of the year. And that's what makes

1218
01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:36,240
Speaker 1: it special. I've I've quit trying to predict. Actually I

1219
01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:40,360
Speaker 1: do predict the Redskins to win every week. That's that's

1220
01:00:40,520 --> 01:00:43,000
Speaker 1: that's a matter of working yourself into a frenzy each

1221
01:00:43,040 --> 01:00:46,000
Speaker 1: week on how this team needs to play to win.

1222
01:00:46,080 --> 01:00:48,320
Speaker 1: And if you're a fan of a team, that's what

1223
01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:50,440
Speaker 1: fans do. They well, you know, if if we can

1224
01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:51,960
Speaker 1: get this out of this part of the team, and

1225
01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:54,640
Speaker 1: if we can stop this guy, we've got a chance

1226
01:00:54,680 --> 01:00:56,880
Speaker 1: to win. And that's the beauty of the NFL. I mean,

1227
01:00:57,200 --> 01:00:59,200
Speaker 1: you know, I think all these teams are going to

1228
01:00:59,240 --> 01:01:01,480
Speaker 1: be competitive this here, but I guess you know the

1229
01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:03,680
Speaker 1: one that we all want to see fail the most

1230
01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:09,120
Speaker 1: of the Cowboys, I can't deny that. Great talking to

1231
01:01:09,920 --> 01:01:13,440
Speaker 1: Larry Michael Redskins Radio play by Playboys, Larry greatly appreciate

1232
01:01:13,520 --> 01:01:15,560
Speaker 1: the time of the inside. Thanks so much. All right,

1233
01:01:15,840 --> 01:01:19,040
Speaker 1: sounds good. Break it down what to expect from the

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01:01:19,080 --> 01:01:22,400
Speaker 1: Washington Redskins in two thousand eighteen. So we've got two

1235
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Speaker 1: of the three divisional foes in the books. Dallas Cowboys

1236
01:01:26,040 --> 01:01:29,360
Speaker 1: will be coming up along our journey across the two

1237
01:01:29,360 --> 01:01:33,640
Speaker 1: thousand eighteen team opponents. Tomorrow we preview the Jacksonville Jaguars

1238
01:01:33,680 --> 01:01:36,040
Speaker 1: and I'll be sitting in with John. So there you go.

1239
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Speaker 1: Switch gears to the a f C as they will

1240
01:01:38,720 --> 01:01:40,600
Speaker 1: have to deal with the a f C South this

1241
01:01:40,680 --> 01:01:43,520
Speaker 1: coming season. We appreciate everybody for tuning in. That's gonna

1242
01:01:43,520 --> 01:01:45,439
Speaker 1: wrap up Tuesday's This is a Big Blue kick Off

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01:01:45,440 --> 01:01:47,960
Speaker 1: live up and running again tomorrow at noon Eastern for

1244
01:01:48,040 --> 01:01:50,240
Speaker 1: Paul to Tino on Lance Meadow speak to you tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: I have a go one