WEBVTT - Running Backs -- who's got the moves?

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<v Speaker 1>Brian is on the phone. Hi Brian, Hello from a

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<v Speaker 1>chart making history on Fantasy Football Weekly episode. I'm honored

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<v Speaker 1>to be a part of it. But absolutely, absolutely yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll take any and all human contact at this point

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<v Speaker 1>is probably good human contact, right, no doubt, without a doubt,

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<v Speaker 1>in any any free agent move at this point is

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<v Speaker 1>the most captivating news in the NFL. But we've been lucky.

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<v Speaker 1>There's been some some haymakers. Last week. Ye last week,

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<v Speaker 1>Matt and I broke down the quarterbacks that moved and

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<v Speaker 1>there were a ton of them. Huge Quarterback Week. If

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<v Speaker 1>you missed that episode, we encourage you to go back

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<v Speaker 1>to the podcast, and then this week you and I

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<v Speaker 1>are going to break down all the running back changes,

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<v Speaker 1>including the guys who have new destinations and even the

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<v Speaker 1>guys who stayed in place in the fantasy value of

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<v Speaker 1>those guys whom who had the chance to leave, like

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<v Speaker 1>a Derrick Hennry but did not end up going anywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll talk about those guys too. Let's kick it off

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<v Speaker 1>Brian with Todd Gurley. Last year, he was running back

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<v Speaker 1>seventeen in points per game, ultimately released by the Rams

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<v Speaker 1>due to the beloaded contract he had as much as

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<v Speaker 1>anything else, and I think probably they're ongoing concerned with

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<v Speaker 1>the me and subsequently signed by Atlanta where he replaces

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<v Speaker 1>DeVonta Freeman, who is currently a free agent. What do

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<v Speaker 1>you let's start here, what do you think of the

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<v Speaker 1>Rams without Todd Gurley? Well, everyone uh immediately started jumping

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<v Speaker 1>back on. I should say the Darryll. Is it the red?

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<v Speaker 1>He's a Darrell. I think he's a straight Darrell. He

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<v Speaker 1>got he basically was never mentioned on TV last season,

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<v Speaker 1>so we never got to hear his name. Never. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>but but you know he's the guy everyone's talking about now.

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<v Speaker 1>For the Rams outside of their awful new logo, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm not getting too excited for Henderson. They didn't

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<v Speaker 1>invested on a draft capital in him last year. He

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<v Speaker 1>was the seventieth overall pick in the draft. That's not bad.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not like a third or fourth running back taken,

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<v Speaker 1>I think, But he never had like that the air

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<v Speaker 1>apparent vibe to him, like you know, he was the

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<v Speaker 1>guy after Girley, like, and even after they release Girly,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not like because they have Henderson, I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>they're gonna invest in another running back somewhere in the

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<v Speaker 1>draft in the same region there, even though they don't

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<v Speaker 1>really have many picks left to do they or money

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<v Speaker 1>to pay players. But I don't know, he just doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>have bell Cow potential to me, and he's his A

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<v Speaker 1>DP is probably you know, crept up to two to

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<v Speaker 1>three rounds since the Girly news. But I'm just fading

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<v Speaker 1>it personally if it seems like it's gonna be another like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a three headed monster that isn't very dangerous

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<v Speaker 1>because that The running back usage was abysmal for the

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<v Speaker 1>Rams last year. They weren't used in the passing game whatsoever.

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<v Speaker 1>We're not sure if that's going to change. It's just

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<v Speaker 1>like it's like the Patriots on the West Coast. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I hate the Patriots running back situation to always has

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm getting that same vibe from l A. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just out entirely on Henderson. I'm way more optimistic

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<v Speaker 1>on Henderson. And here's why. Malcolm Brown to me is

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<v Speaker 1>a middling talent. I don't think he's at all special.

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<v Speaker 1>Brian Darryl Henderson flashed some really nice stuff in the

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<v Speaker 1>preseason last year, and there's gonna be reps for him

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<v Speaker 1>to have now. Obviously, if they burn a second round

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<v Speaker 1>pick on at the running back position, you know, everything changes.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm very intrigued by Anderson. We've seen a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of cases where a young rookie running back doesn't get

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of reps and then year two it all

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<v Speaker 1>blossoms together. Devanta Freeman, who is relevant to this argument,

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<v Speaker 1>is one of was one of those guys who blossomed

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<v Speaker 1>in year two. Todd Gurley now goes to Atlanta and

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<v Speaker 1>the Falcons have only got Edo Smith and Codrea Allison

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<v Speaker 1>and Brian Hill. I mean, you know, the all those

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<v Speaker 1>guys who did nothing last year. How do you see

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<v Speaker 1>Todd Gurley working his way into the Falcons rotation here? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>just a one year deal, correct, So it feels like

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<v Speaker 1>they're just gonna sort of run him into the ground

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<v Speaker 1>and see what they got. But listen to this. This

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<v Speaker 1>is brutal for Atlanta running back. Since two thousand and twelve,

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<v Speaker 1>Atlanta's lead back is averaging only eight hundred and thirteen

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<v Speaker 1>rushing yards. Only twice has the lead back top the

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<v Speaker 1>thousand yards, and that was DeVonta Freeman. And and he

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<v Speaker 1>didn't even top eleven hundred yards in those years. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's never been a real money spot for a lead

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<v Speaker 1>back in Atlanta. They were ranks four and run blocking

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<v Speaker 1>by Football Outsiders last season. For what I recall, they

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<v Speaker 1>spent a couple of early picks on offensive line and

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<v Speaker 1>those guys got hurt early that that old line was

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<v Speaker 1>kind of ravaged by injuries. But you know, it's an

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<v Speaker 1>exciting offense. Matt Ryan, Julio Jones, Calvin Ridley. Uh Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess it's elite side and no Austin Hooper, but

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<v Speaker 1>I hated Hirst. It seems pretty comparable, so I'm you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm bullish on Gurly. I think, you know, it's just

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<v Speaker 1>his home state. He's gonna be motivated. He's got money

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<v Speaker 1>motivated again for for whatever. Although he's gonna come off

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<v Speaker 1>a year in which he will have been paid by

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<v Speaker 1>both teams. They bade him twenty million dollars to leave,

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<v Speaker 1>and now he also gets paid by Atlanta. He's Todd

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<v Speaker 1>Gurley is having a pretty good financial year. Yes, definitely,

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<v Speaker 1>And you know it's I'm it's I'm a contender in

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<v Speaker 1>a Dinasty or Empire league. Imn't willing to hold the

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<v Speaker 1>dice on I'm short term in redraft. I think he's

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<v Speaker 1>back up in like late second early third round tier

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<v Speaker 1>right now, could creep up, you know. So, uh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm optimistic for Girly. I hope he I hope he

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<v Speaker 1>does well all right. I mean the part that you're

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<v Speaker 1>not touching on with Gurley is the knee, Brian, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>for you to touch on the actual body part, right

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<v Speaker 1>if there's there's nothing I like better than touching body parts,

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<v Speaker 1>does Todd. The worry for me is that Todd Gurley

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<v Speaker 1>just is never going to be a workhorse back again ever.

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<v Speaker 1>And if they if he really could be, then I

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<v Speaker 1>think the Rams would have been a lot more open

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<v Speaker 1>to keeping him. If um, you know, I think we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna see a lot of what we saw last year.

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<v Speaker 1>Twelve carry games, fifteen twelve touch games, fifteen touch games,

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<v Speaker 1>eight touch games, stuff like that. That's gonna make him

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<v Speaker 1>really up and down for fantasy owners. But I do

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<v Speaker 1>agree with with what you're saying about that offense as

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<v Speaker 1>a whole. It's gonna be a very healthy offense. And

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<v Speaker 1>he'll get the goal line work for sure. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>with Matt Ryan throwing balls to Julio Jones and and

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<v Speaker 1>Calvin Ridley, there's there's certainly room for Todd Gurley to

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<v Speaker 1>get some get some touchdowns, and I like that part

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<v Speaker 1>of it. So if ore to summer, I se Girly

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<v Speaker 1>this way, I'm gonna ask you this, does he have

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<v Speaker 1>more or less fantasy value this year than he had

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<v Speaker 1>last year? Well? I just know, you know this time

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<v Speaker 1>last year, everyone was way down on Girly leading up

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<v Speaker 1>into the summer, So I mean those feelings aren't the

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<v Speaker 1>same right now for whatever reason, him going to a

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<v Speaker 1>new team, So I'm just gonna go with more. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that he's going to have more value, even though

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<v Speaker 1>I think he quietly was still an RB two last

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<v Speaker 1>year and where it was an awful year, but I

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<v Speaker 1>do think, uh, we see some more production from Girly

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<v Speaker 1>this year. Of course you can stay healthy. Who will

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<v Speaker 1>cross their fingers for that? Yeah, let's hope. So reminder,

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<v Speaker 1>he went off the board last year at the as

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<v Speaker 1>ADP wise in the in in August, the preseason of

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<v Speaker 1>last year, he was going off the board at roughly

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<v Speaker 1>positioned ten, So there was there ended up being a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of downside in Girly last season. Let's shift over

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<v Speaker 1>to Melvin Gordon, who ends up signing a two year,

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<v Speaker 1>sixteen million dollar deal after one of the dumbest holdouts

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<v Speaker 1>in the history of the NFL and ultimately now gone

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<v Speaker 1>from San Diego. He scored nine touchdowns last year despite

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<v Speaker 1>missing those first four games, But Brian Melvin Gordon only

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<v Speaker 1>averaged three point eight yards per carry. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>I saw a stacko by my Twitter feet along the

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<v Speaker 1>lines of this. So if I don't get this perfect um,

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<v Speaker 1>I apologize, but it's close. I think it was. Pro

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<v Speaker 1>Football Focus showed him as the league's worst starting running

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<v Speaker 1>back on inside carries in the NFL. Yeah, I saw

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<v Speaker 1>a similar stat uh, and again you gotta feel bad

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<v Speaker 1>for Philip Lindsay here. It just feels like a region

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<v Speaker 1>of last year where Gordon wasn't the best running back

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<v Speaker 1>on his team, when Austin Eichler was the best running back.

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<v Speaker 1>But when Gordon came back, he laws continually eight into

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<v Speaker 1>echoed his touches. And that's what's gonna happen with Philip

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<v Speaker 1>Lindsay right now is essentially the backup, which is insane

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<v Speaker 1>because he's like a top twelve running back in the

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<v Speaker 1>NFL running back and Lindsey is better. Yeah, don't you

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<v Speaker 1>think the same thing can happen again, where you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we roll into a season and thinking Melvin Gordon's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>get most of the work and then you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>the other guys sort of the backup and Ekeler ends

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<v Speaker 1>up being the better back. I don't know that that

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't happen again. That God, Gordon gets the first crack

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<v Speaker 1>to show that he's good, but then Philip Lindsay is

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<v Speaker 1>ultimately the better back and they go back to him. Hopefully.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's how it will play out, and we

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<v Speaker 1>should quickly mention that Royce Freeman is non existence anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he is right now, Let's get the name

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<v Speaker 1>for the border right now, Let's get the name right

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<v Speaker 1>Royce dropped the piano freeman. Finished last year, I was

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<v Speaker 1>running back fifty two in points per game. Royce dropped

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<v Speaker 1>the piano freeman. What do you think about l A

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<v Speaker 1>now with Austin Ekeler and Justin Jackson. I remember during

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<v Speaker 1>the regular season on the show towards the end of

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<v Speaker 1>the season, for premature speculation, we kind of we you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we're recommending guys or a good dynasty stash if you're

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<v Speaker 1>dead in the Dynasty League and grabbing a guy with

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<v Speaker 1>virtually no value at the time, but if the cards

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<v Speaker 1>following his favor, he might to have some value come

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<v Speaker 1>start of twenty. And that's Justin Jackson right now, who's

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<v Speaker 1>the number two behind Ekeler. And they like Justin Jackson,

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<v Speaker 1>and Justin Jackson has looked good in his limited actions.

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<v Speaker 1>So um Ekeler is right now in PPR leagues of

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<v Speaker 1>borderline late round one pick, I think he is now.

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<v Speaker 1>He finished last year's finished last year's RB six in

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<v Speaker 1>PPR UM. I don't see why he wouldn't be RB

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<v Speaker 1>six necessarily again this year. Offense can't be any more

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<v Speaker 1>dysfunctional than it was last year in general, right, so

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<v Speaker 1>you would think that this would be an opportunity for

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<v Speaker 1>Austin Ekeler to potentially get even even better than what

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<v Speaker 1>we saw last year, if that's possible. No, Melvin Gordon there, right,

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<v Speaker 1>who's to say that at the one yard line that

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<v Speaker 1>it's called gonna be Justin Jackson? You know, Austin Ekeler

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<v Speaker 1>is not a scatback, definitely not. Yeah, So I'm excited

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<v Speaker 1>for Echuler's prospects and Justin Jackson. I think it's a

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<v Speaker 1>mustinkuff for Echler owners going into the season, throughout draft

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<v Speaker 1>season and um. But yeah, and it's you know, there's

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<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be a lot of playing from behind, most

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<v Speaker 1>likely from the Chargers, which usually goes well for fantasy production.

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<v Speaker 1>So I like the running back situation from a fantasy

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<v Speaker 1>perspective in l A for the Chargers. I don't like

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<v Speaker 1>it in Denver though. From the fantasy perspective, it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>a great real life situation with Gordon and Philip Lindsay

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<v Speaker 1>running behind uh an old line that was ranked ten

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<v Speaker 1>and run blocking by Football Outsiders and all of those

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<v Speaker 1>sudden this Broncos offense is pretty sexy with uh so

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<v Speaker 1>and then Noah Fans, and they could they have the

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<v Speaker 1>fifteenth overall pick. I think they're either gonna bolster that

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<v Speaker 1>line or take one of these elite wide receivers there

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<v Speaker 1>with Sutton and then I like Drew Locks. So all

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<v Speaker 1>of a sudden, you got a really fun offense. And

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<v Speaker 1>when it comes to the running back situation, one of

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<v Speaker 1>these guys that has to go down really for uh

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<v Speaker 1>for me to get excited about him. I'll probably be

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<v Speaker 1>looking to pick up Lindsay on draft day because you

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<v Speaker 1>know his ADP is gonna plummet a little bit with

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<v Speaker 1>the Gordon signing. But I'll take the discount on him

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<v Speaker 1>all day. Ten have a ten times overboarded, it's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be heavily discounted. Melvin Gordon finished actually in points

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<v Speaker 1>per game, and again, so this is after he missed

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<v Speaker 1>those first four games, and actually I think he missed

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<v Speaker 1>the fifth game too. Uh in points per game, he

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<v Speaker 1>ended up BARB fift, which is not that bad in PPR.

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<v Speaker 1>And so based on that, do you believe Melvin Gordon

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<v Speaker 1>will have more or less fantasy value this year than last?

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<v Speaker 1>If you're taking everything to account from last year, the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that he missed, you know, the first hand full

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<v Speaker 1>of games. But on a point three game basis, it

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<v Speaker 1>almost feels like a lateral move because I feel like, uh, Windsley,

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<v Speaker 1>you will eat into Gordon's numbers, as Ekeler did, rightfully.

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<v Speaker 1>So so I'm on the fence here, but I'll say

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit more because I think it's a better

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<v Speaker 1>offense and I just think he'll score more touchdownts with

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<v Speaker 1>the Broncos. And let's not forget this angle charge to

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<v Speaker 1>guaranteed revenge games from Melvin Gordon the next two seasons.

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<v Speaker 1>Right there you go in the division, so you got

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of that. He'll be running hard for those games,

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<v Speaker 1>right I like it. Let's go to David Johnson. He

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<v Speaker 1>was a disaster last year, clocking in as RB thirty

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<v Speaker 1>eight in points per game. But really it was worse

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<v Speaker 1>than that, Brian, because after about week five he brought

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<v Speaker 1>nothing to the table. He topped forty rushing yards two

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<v Speaker 1>times last year, none of them after and by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>that's it he started. You can stop right there. David

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<v Speaker 1>Johnson top forty rushing yards twice last year. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a disaster by itself. None of them were after

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<v Speaker 1>Week five, so he was. He was a guy you

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<v Speaker 1>could have dropped in early October and been better off

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<v Speaker 1>having dropped him. Arguably Fantasy Football's biggest bust last year,

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<v Speaker 1>David johnson average draft position was pick seven for David

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<v Speaker 1>Johnson last year. He leaves Arizona with Kenyan Drake and

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<v Speaker 1>Chase Edmonds. Let's start there. What do you think of

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<v Speaker 1>the Arizona backfield now that David Johnson's out. Oh, Kenyan

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<v Speaker 1>Drake is right up there with Austin ekelo almost in

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<v Speaker 1>that an elite pier of late first early second round

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<v Speaker 1>running backs. I think he's easily in PPR Top ten

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<v Speaker 1>running back. Kenyan Drake and that Arizona offense without a doubt.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll address their offensive line in the draft, starting with

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<v Speaker 1>the eighth overall pick. If they don't go old line there. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>something is seriously in this. You know they added DeAndre Hopkins.

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<v Speaker 1>That's gonna be a very fun offense. Uh. Kyler Murray

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<v Speaker 1>just spreads the field almost like no other. Last year,

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<v Speaker 1>Drake faced eight plus men in the box on just

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<v Speaker 1>eight percent of his carries with Arizona. That's the third

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<v Speaker 1>lowest rate they did the opponent. Opponents aren't gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>able to afford to stuff the box against Arizona with

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<v Speaker 1>Kyler Murray and DeAndre Hopkins now Christian Kirk, so it's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be a very fun offense. And now, yeah, Kenyan Drake,

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't fault anyone for if taking him as their

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<v Speaker 1>lead back in the late first, early second round of

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<v Speaker 1>Chancy drafts. Really, I don't think I think Kenyan drakeson

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<v Speaker 1>okay running back. They that offensive line has to get better,

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<v Speaker 1>and Brian they just it's it's one of the four

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<v Speaker 1>worst in the NFL. So hopefully this draft, and they

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<v Speaker 1>have a ton of defensive need as well Arizona does,

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<v Speaker 1>but hopefully in this draft they're serious about addressing their

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<v Speaker 1>offensive line deficiencies. And if they do that, um, then

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<v Speaker 1>I'm starting to listen to Kenyan Drake that high. But

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<v Speaker 1>right now I'm not quite as enthusiastic as you are.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's talk about where this puts David Johnson in the

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<v Speaker 1>Houston with Houston where at least at at least he's

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<v Speaker 1>he's gonna have to deal with Duke Johnson and what

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<v Speaker 1>will likely be another situation where we'll have a split

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<v Speaker 1>backfield right right. And just to talk reality football for

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<v Speaker 1>a quick second, Bill O'Brien head coach and GM such

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<v Speaker 1>a qualified to run a fantasy football team when he

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<v Speaker 1>could have signed god Gurley or Melvin Gordon a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of days later and then kept kept one of the

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<v Speaker 1>five best wide receivers in the league. We have money

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<v Speaker 1>and what a contract leastored with David Johnson. So for

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<v Speaker 1>that reason talking about getting run into the ground, they

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<v Speaker 1>are going to make do everything in their power in

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<v Speaker 1>Houston to make that trade look like a good idea,

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<v Speaker 1>which is impossible. It's never gonna happen. But as long

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<v Speaker 1>as Johnson can stay healthy, he's gonna get used like

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<v Speaker 1>a workhorse back duke Johnson into We're not so, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's not. You know, running back hasn't been a great spot,

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<v Speaker 1>uh since Arian Foster for the Texans. Last year. They

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<v Speaker 1>were ranked in the bottom third when it comes to

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<v Speaker 1>one block one blocking by Football Outsiders. David Johnson turns

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<v Speaker 1>twenty nine this season. I'm out on Johnson pretty much,

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<v Speaker 1>even though he just traded for him in an Empire

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<v Speaker 1>league that I basically got him for free, because that's

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<v Speaker 1>that's the general perspective that is, that's all you have

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<v Speaker 1>to give up, That's all you have to give up

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<v Speaker 1>for David Johnson is basically air um. We shaid know

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<v Speaker 1>Carlos Hyde and Lamar Miller both unsigned free agents right now,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, as time goes on and neither there's

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<v Speaker 1>not going to be a lot of value for these guys.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's a running back rich draft. I think both

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<v Speaker 1>of these guys have an excellent chance of being unsigned

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<v Speaker 1>until after the draft when teams can you know, teams

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<v Speaker 1>look and go, well, all right, we didn't walk out

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<v Speaker 1>of the draft with any of the running backs we

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<v Speaker 1>had hoped to get, so you know, we'll make do

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<v Speaker 1>with Carlos Hide or whatever whatever is left of Lamar

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<v Speaker 1>Miller's career. So it is it's David Johnson's job to take.

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<v Speaker 1>And now the question is is he going to be

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<v Speaker 1>in so much better shape now that they can actually

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<v Speaker 1>get something useful and get some useful reps out of

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<v Speaker 1>David Johnson. And you know, because if he if he

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<v Speaker 1>shows up looking like he did last year, it doesn't matter.

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<v Speaker 1>Guy can't play football at that size. Let's take a

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<v Speaker 1>quick break then, I want to talk about two other

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<v Speaker 1>guys that have that have moved Jordan Howard and Peyton Barber.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even spent a lot of time in either one,

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<v Speaker 1>but we'll talk about those, and then some of the

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<v Speaker 1>guys have stayed in place, like Damian Williams and Derrick

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<v Speaker 1>Henry and Kenyan Drake back in moments, welcome back, Paul

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<v Speaker 1>Charge and Brian Johnson with you. We are talking through

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<v Speaker 1>the running backs in new places we've done Todd Gurley

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<v Speaker 1>and Melvin Gordon and David Johnson. Let's turn our attention

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<v Speaker 1>to briefly to two other guys that I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>I have nearly as much impact and ultimately won't. That

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<v Speaker 1>includes Jordan Howard. He was running back twenty eight in

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<v Speaker 1>points per game last year. He goes to Miami where

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<v Speaker 1>he's effectively the lead back for the moment. But let's

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<v Speaker 1>start here, maybe more saliently than than Jordan Howard. This

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<v Speaker 1>leaves the Eagles with Miles Sanders and Boston Scott. Now

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<v Speaker 1>that becomes pretty intriguing. What do you think of those

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<v Speaker 1>two players without Jordan Howard there in Philadelphia? Well, Miles Sanders,

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<v Speaker 1>people are you know ringing the bell cow bell for him? Already?

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<v Speaker 1>And uh, justifiably so. He looked he looked like he

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<v Speaker 1>could play that role in the later later parts of

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<v Speaker 1>the season last year, you know, and Boston Scott looked

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<v Speaker 1>great when Sanders got hurt dead, he really did. He

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<v Speaker 1>certainly has carved out a role for himself. He's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>get at least of the touches agree with the Eagles. So, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Sanders again, right with the other running backs

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<v Speaker 1>we mentioned to have stayed put, he's right in that

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<v Speaker 1>tear with Eckler and Kenyan Drake. He might even be

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<v Speaker 1>viewed higher than those guys right now. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>how I would rank those three, but they're all safe

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<v Speaker 1>RB twos with RB one upside. Yeah, and for Sanders,

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<v Speaker 1>who's getting goal line carries? Not Boston Scott, that's for sure. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>So I think I think the upside that Sanders springs

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<v Speaker 1>is tremendous Brian from that standpoint that he never really

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<v Speaker 1>you know, didn't have all Jordan Howard was there to

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<v Speaker 1>a great extent with the Eagles. Now for the Dolphins,

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<v Speaker 1>they have very little depth at running back. Patrick Laird

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<v Speaker 1>and Miles Gascon, who proved themselves to be you know,

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<v Speaker 1>completely ordinary at best last year. Where is I think

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<v Speaker 1>Miami will bolster the running back position at some point,

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<v Speaker 1>probably in the draft where they've got a billion picks,

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<v Speaker 1>But assuming they don't, for the moment, what do you mean,

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<v Speaker 1>just what we know right now? What do you think

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<v Speaker 1>of Jordan Howard with the Dolphins. Jordan Howard turns in November,

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<v Speaker 1>still pretty young, third, the third most rushing yards and

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<v Speaker 1>seventh most rushing touchdowns since team So no, no, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't lose his job last season with the Eagles.

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<v Speaker 1>He got hurt. Now he's still starting running back. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not like he was playing bad. But he isn't an

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<v Speaker 1>exciting back fan. He means he's certainly is not known

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<v Speaker 1>for his his past catching prowess. In his four seasons

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<v Speaker 1>in the league, he owns a sixteenth percent drop rate,

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<v Speaker 1>which is very high. Only he generates less than win

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<v Speaker 1>eight yards per route run. Only two of his two

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<v Speaker 1>career catches have gone for touchdown, so he's not really

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<v Speaker 1>a bell cow type guy. And I can't envision Miami.

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<v Speaker 1>I know you said, try to envision them not drafting

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<v Speaker 1>running back. That's that's virtually impossible with four sick So

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<v Speaker 1>definitely got to take it's not one made me maybe two,

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<v Speaker 1>says how many and when? And I think they're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>take one of these elite backs to the first round

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<v Speaker 1>to be on raced Raft or Dobbins or you know,

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<v Speaker 1>one of those guys. So I know, I know Howard's

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<v Speaker 1>ADPs has left UH invest malls right now because he's

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<v Speaker 1>just starting on my kind of team, no death. But

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<v Speaker 1>his job is threatened already before the draft has even started.

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<v Speaker 1>They're gonna draft someone to h seriously into his work.

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<v Speaker 1>But he should be the goal line back. So don't

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<v Speaker 1>be the goalne back. He'll get rotational work, right. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, even if they draft somebody that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>whoever that rookie is, is likely to end up sharing

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<v Speaker 1>time with Jordan Howard at some point, let's go to

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<v Speaker 1>Wells and then I'll ask again, does he have more

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<v Speaker 1>or less fantasy value this year than last year? Jordan Howard,

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<v Speaker 1>He's going from running hand arguably the best offensive line

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<v Speaker 1>to the worst. The Dolphins ranked dead last UH in

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<v Speaker 1>one blocking with Football Outsiders last year. The trade of

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<v Speaker 1>learning the counsel to acquire some of these picks, and

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<v Speaker 1>they again they got four keeen draft picks five in

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<v Speaker 1>the first two rounds, so they seriously need to address

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<v Speaker 1>their offensive line. But Miami was kind of you know,

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<v Speaker 1>garbage time point Hayden towards the end of the year,

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<v Speaker 1>which they couldn't be again, or they could be the

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<v Speaker 1>best team in that division. Who knows. But it feels

0:22:09.359 --> 0:22:11.600
<v Speaker 1>like another lateral move. But I think there's gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>a little less value because that do you think Miami

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<v Speaker 1>takes one of these leap running backs that don't have

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<v Speaker 1>no choice? But you give the majority of touches too,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, I don't want to spend a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>time on Peyton Barber, who topped fifty rushing yards zero

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<v Speaker 1>times after Week three last year and only and scored

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<v Speaker 1>three times in the final eleven games of the season.

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<v Speaker 1>He was nondescript. He goes to Washington Um where he

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<v Speaker 1>adds he's into the mix with Adrian Peterson and Darius

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<v Speaker 1>Guys and Bryce Love. He might not even make the cut.

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<v Speaker 1>But maybe more importantly, Tampa's got this gaping hole now

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<v Speaker 1>running back and they've got Ronald Jones. But he was

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<v Speaker 1>completely incapable of stepping up when they repeatedly tried to

0:22:48.280 --> 0:22:50.760
<v Speaker 1>get anything out of Ronald Jones I feel like this

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<v Speaker 1>is Tampa's another team that's really set to draft another

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<v Speaker 1>running back and uh and fill that that whole left

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<v Speaker 1>by Peyton Barber. Yeah, I know people, a lot of

0:23:00.160 --> 0:23:03.719
<v Speaker 1>people would love to see Kareem Hunt end up in Tampa,

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<v Speaker 1>which is very unlikely now that Cleveland signed up to

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<v Speaker 1>a second round of tender, right, But I don't Ronald

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<v Speaker 1>Jones is not the guy. Even though Tom Brady has

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<v Speaker 1>been heard calling him Ron That means they're pretty close already.

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't pay Tom and Ron are going to

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<v Speaker 1>be sharing the backfield as much as Ron would like.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, hon with you. I think they draft a

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<v Speaker 1>pretty big game running back who is going to be

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<v Speaker 1>better than Ronald Jones and get a lot more touges.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm not I'm not buying a spike in value

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<v Speaker 1>for Ronald Jones. Now that's all right. Paul charge And

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<v Speaker 1>is gone. Yeah, And Paul Charchy and Brian Johnson. You

0:23:38.280 --> 0:23:41.840
<v Speaker 1>can follow Brian on Twitter at b t x J

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<v Speaker 1>and I am at Paul CHARCHI. And let's talk about

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<v Speaker 1>some of the runners who are staying in place. Beginning

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<v Speaker 1>with Damian Williams. The Chiefs ex exercised a team option

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<v Speaker 1>on him and bring it will bring him back. Now

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<v Speaker 1>he was running, He's going to be one of the

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<v Speaker 1>most divisive players for fantasy owners. Anybody who tried to

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<v Speaker 1>get through the regular season with him suffered badly because

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<v Speaker 1>Damian Williams was hurt basically all season long, and they

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<v Speaker 1>got virtually nothing out of him, and you didn't know

0:24:09.680 --> 0:24:11.480
<v Speaker 1>if he was gonna start or not start, and even

0:24:11.560 --> 0:24:13.679
<v Speaker 1>who's active was going to get the ball. It was

0:24:13.720 --> 0:24:17.600
<v Speaker 1>a disaster for Damian Williams. And then here comes Week

0:24:17.760 --> 0:24:21.720
<v Speaker 1>seventeen through the Super Bowl, and he couldn't have been

0:24:21.720 --> 0:24:25.960
<v Speaker 1>a better fantasy producer. An astounding run for Damian Williams

0:24:26.040 --> 0:24:29.760
<v Speaker 1>in the postseason and Week seventeen, So he's gonna stay

0:24:29.800 --> 0:24:33.720
<v Speaker 1>in place here. He's currently the team's clear number one.

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<v Speaker 1>To the point that I feel like all the rest

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<v Speaker 1>of the mismatch of guys that Kansas City trolled out

0:24:38.680 --> 0:24:41.520
<v Speaker 1>last year, I don't think any of them are necessarily

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<v Speaker 1>even guaranteed to be back to the team. They're all terrible.

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<v Speaker 1>So where do you feel like Damian Williams fits in

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<v Speaker 1>this year? As he stays with this team, probably doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>have to sweat the Darryl Williams of the world. Lashawn

0:24:53.560 --> 0:24:56.280
<v Speaker 1>McCoy is gonna be gone, Spencer wears be gone. You

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<v Speaker 1>know where where do you feel like he fits in?

0:24:59.000 --> 0:25:02.080
<v Speaker 1>This is a play where you know owners are really

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<v Speaker 1>going to be holding their breath during the NFL Draft,

0:25:04.880 --> 0:25:06.639
<v Speaker 1>and if they might be holding their breath for a

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<v Speaker 1>very long time, if they draw out the draft for

0:25:09.320 --> 0:25:11.199
<v Speaker 1>a whole week, we could both think we should. By

0:25:11.240 --> 0:25:13.199
<v Speaker 1>the way, it's a great idea in these times. But

0:25:14.040 --> 0:25:17.200
<v Speaker 1>it's all about it. The Chiefs invest in any serious

0:25:17.240 --> 0:25:19.439
<v Speaker 1>draft capital in a running back, and if they don't,

0:25:20.200 --> 0:25:23.000
<v Speaker 1>then it's yatsi for Damian Williams owners. If they do,

0:25:23.520 --> 0:25:26.000
<v Speaker 1>then you know it's gonna be a little more trepidation

0:25:26.000 --> 0:25:28.000
<v Speaker 1>if you're going to draft them on draft day. But

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<v Speaker 1>as of right now, he is the guy like he said,

0:25:30.480 --> 0:25:34.440
<v Speaker 1>and he's not he's He's almost fits right in the

0:25:34.480 --> 0:25:37.919
<v Speaker 1>Austin Ekelers and the Melbourne Gordon's of the world. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he has RV two uh safe RV two

0:25:40.840 --> 0:25:43.560
<v Speaker 1>floor with RB one that lead upside if he can

0:25:43.600 --> 0:25:46.920
<v Speaker 1>stay healthy, like any running back, his upside. If they

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<v Speaker 1>don't draft a running back, the Chiefs don't draft a

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<v Speaker 1>running back Damien Williams has the upside to be the

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<v Speaker 1>highest scoring running back in fantasy football. He's not the

0:25:57.240 --> 0:25:59.399
<v Speaker 1>best running back, and not by a fair margin, but

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<v Speaker 1>in that off fence, as we saw in the playoffs,

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<v Speaker 1>he can be an elite fantasy point producer. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>the kind of upside we're talking about. It'll be fascinating

0:26:08.160 --> 0:26:09.960
<v Speaker 1>to see if the Chiefs go there not. It's safe

0:26:10.000 --> 0:26:11.600
<v Speaker 1>to say I'll ask you the same question, Masks, for

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<v Speaker 1>all these guys, does Damian Williams have more or less

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<v Speaker 1>fantasy value this year than last year? The answer has

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<v Speaker 1>got to be more right because he missed so much

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<v Speaker 1>time and played so sporadically with the injury last year. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>assuming you see his selvy again and Kingado doesn't doesn't

0:26:26.080 --> 0:26:28.400
<v Speaker 1>draft a premiere back, he's got to have more going

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<v Speaker 1>into this year. I would agree. I think so too.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's talk Let's talk Derrick Henry. He was running back

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<v Speaker 1>three even in even in PPR leagues last year, and

0:26:37.400 --> 0:26:39.520
<v Speaker 1>if you were non PPR, he may have been running

0:26:39.520 --> 0:26:42.840
<v Speaker 1>back one for you. Um, he gets the Titans franchise

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<v Speaker 1>tag and the team released Dion Lewis, player very near

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<v Speaker 1>and dear to your heart where How do you how

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<v Speaker 1>do you think this shapes up? Is there any reason

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<v Speaker 1>to think there's gonna be any different for Derrick Henry

0:26:53.520 --> 0:26:56.040
<v Speaker 1>this year than last year? But he's probably gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>running a little angrier getting the franchise tag he wanted

0:26:59.560 --> 0:27:03.879
<v Speaker 1>to exec money didn't get that. This is where my

0:27:03.960 --> 0:27:07.000
<v Speaker 1>stance on Henry right now is. I think, with Danny

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<v Speaker 1>and Tomlinson, was the only runner in the two thousands

0:27:10.200 --> 0:27:12.480
<v Speaker 1>to repeat as rushing champion, and that was back in

0:27:12.560 --> 0:27:17.240
<v Speaker 1>the O six or seven uh times. So I don't

0:27:17.240 --> 0:27:21.320
<v Speaker 1>like Hendrick Chansons repeating as the rusting champ. Uh his

0:27:21.320 --> 0:27:24.280
<v Speaker 1>his a dps right, it's probably right right around running

0:27:24.280 --> 0:27:26.879
<v Speaker 1>backs five six, I don't know. I think not a

0:27:26.880 --> 0:27:28.439
<v Speaker 1>whole lot is going to change for him. It appears

0:27:28.520 --> 0:27:32.840
<v Speaker 1>Ryan cannon Hill will be the quarterback, No major changes there.

0:27:33.240 --> 0:27:36.560
<v Speaker 1>They might draft a wide receiver Corey Davis looking like

0:27:36.600 --> 0:27:38.760
<v Speaker 1>a bus. They got a J. Brown, of course, So

0:27:39.040 --> 0:27:41.240
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Henry's right around where he's at, and

0:27:41.280 --> 0:27:44.520
<v Speaker 1>there's nothing that's really changed here. We just know Definity

0:27:44.520 --> 0:27:46.359
<v Speaker 1>to believe it will be playing for Tennessee this season.

0:27:46.720 --> 0:27:49.959
<v Speaker 1>Where does Henry I believe Derrick Henry will go roughly

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<v Speaker 1>pick two, pick three, maybe as low as pick four

0:27:54.160 --> 0:27:56.120
<v Speaker 1>in some leagues. But I think that's it, don't don't

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<v Speaker 1>you see he's say he's at the beginning of the

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<v Speaker 1>first round in most fantasy drafts. Yeah, definitely. And in

0:28:01.560 --> 0:28:05.280
<v Speaker 1>standard leagues you can make the case for him to

0:28:05.280 --> 0:28:09.119
<v Speaker 1>be the top overall running back. That's over McCaffrey. But

0:28:09.160 --> 0:28:12.040
<v Speaker 1>you could make the case in standard leagues non PPR,

0:28:12.720 --> 0:28:15.920
<v Speaker 1>you can. You can although Teddy Bridgewater just the dump

0:28:15.960 --> 0:28:18.800
<v Speaker 1>offs that are coming, it's gonna be. Yeah, you know,

0:28:19.480 --> 0:28:21.719
<v Speaker 1>I I would not be surprised to see a one

0:28:21.760 --> 0:28:25.360
<v Speaker 1>hundred catch season for for Christian McCaffrey. Let's say, don't

0:28:25.400 --> 0:28:28.480
<v Speaker 1>rule out p J Walker XFL will start p J

0:28:28.640 --> 0:28:32.879
<v Speaker 1>Walker beating out beating out Teddy altogether. Right, you never know,

0:28:33.040 --> 0:28:35.120
<v Speaker 1>you never know. You looked pretty good. Um, let's take

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<v Speaker 1>one more quick break. When you come back, I want

0:28:36.600 --> 0:28:38.440
<v Speaker 1>to talk to you about some of the other non

0:28:38.520 --> 0:28:41.400
<v Speaker 1>moves and some of the unsigned running backs. It's Fantasy

0:28:41.400 --> 0:28:46.600
<v Speaker 1>Football Weekly. Alright, we're back. Paul Chargie and Brian Johnson

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<v Speaker 1>with you. Brian Gus Edwards resigned by Baltimore is not

0:28:51.040 --> 0:28:53.120
<v Speaker 1>a big move by itself, but it really doesn't utterly

0:28:53.200 --> 0:28:55.680
<v Speaker 1>muddy the waters for those of us that are drafted

0:28:55.760 --> 0:28:58.600
<v Speaker 1>and have held Justice Hill for a while, hoping that

0:28:58.840 --> 0:29:01.880
<v Speaker 1>he would emerge out of this ackfield either through maybe

0:29:01.880 --> 0:29:04.360
<v Speaker 1>middling play from mark Ingram, which he was anything but middling.

0:29:04.360 --> 0:29:07.200
<v Speaker 1>He was great last year um or just like Gus

0:29:07.240 --> 0:29:09.840
<v Speaker 1>Edwards will leave and then you know, just as Hill

0:29:09.880 --> 0:29:12.080
<v Speaker 1>could maybe step up. What are your thoughts on that

0:29:12.160 --> 0:29:16.000
<v Speaker 1>Baltimore backfield with Gus Edwards back in it. Yeah, gust

0:29:16.120 --> 0:29:19.320
<v Speaker 1>Edwards will continue to muddy the water is there. Justice

0:29:19.400 --> 0:29:21.960
<v Speaker 1>Hill had a lot of hype last summer as a

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<v Speaker 1>potential you know, Bell Cow if anything would have happened

0:29:25.520 --> 0:29:28.040
<v Speaker 1>to mark Ingram, but it was Gus Edwards who is

0:29:28.120 --> 0:29:30.840
<v Speaker 1>kind of always the number two throughout the season. So

0:29:31.120 --> 0:29:34.480
<v Speaker 1>it's a it's another three headed monster that's you know,

0:29:34.480 --> 0:29:37.240
<v Speaker 1>it's tough to dissect or do you want to take

0:29:37.280 --> 0:29:38.760
<v Speaker 1>it on draft day. It's almost one of those back

0:29:38.800 --> 0:29:41.320
<v Speaker 1>deals that you want to target invest ball where you

0:29:41.360 --> 0:29:44.760
<v Speaker 1>know you can get Ingram this season in the fourth,

0:29:44.840 --> 0:29:46.960
<v Speaker 1>fifth round and then a lot of people can be

0:29:47.040 --> 0:29:49.280
<v Speaker 1>into Gusts Edwards and Justice Hill and not owning Ingram.

0:29:49.280 --> 0:29:51.760
<v Speaker 1>So that's a good back filled the target in best

0:29:51.760 --> 0:29:54.840
<v Speaker 1>ball where you can kind of try handcuff those three

0:29:54.840 --> 0:29:58.000
<v Speaker 1>guys to each other. But yeah, again and muddies the

0:29:58.000 --> 0:30:01.120
<v Speaker 1>water big times and uh n C League's Justice Hill

0:30:01.240 --> 0:30:03.560
<v Speaker 1>might be more of a long play than people were

0:30:03.560 --> 0:30:07.120
<v Speaker 1>hoping for. Mark Ingram shockingly good last year, finished his

0:30:07.200 --> 0:30:11.680
<v Speaker 1>running back eight in PPR, including five receiving touchdowns to

0:30:11.760 --> 0:30:15.400
<v Speaker 1>go with his ten rushing touchdowns and a total of

0:30:15.680 --> 0:30:20.560
<v Speaker 1>almost hundred yards. Most people did not see a top

0:30:20.600 --> 0:30:23.000
<v Speaker 1>ten performance of mark from mark Ingram, coming in part

0:30:23.040 --> 0:30:25.960
<v Speaker 1>because your quarterback stealing so much of the running work

0:30:26.000 --> 0:30:28.480
<v Speaker 1>that I think most people felt like there wasn't that

0:30:28.560 --> 0:30:31.480
<v Speaker 1>the time share and the presence of Lamar Jackson was

0:30:31.520 --> 0:30:33.520
<v Speaker 1>just going to be too much for mark Ingram to overcome.

0:30:33.600 --> 0:30:36.720
<v Speaker 1>But to his credit, he he had a fantastic season,

0:30:36.800 --> 0:30:40.360
<v Speaker 1>one of the best seasons of his career, and rolls

0:30:40.400 --> 0:30:42.320
<v Speaker 1>into this year and it also be I think his

0:30:42.520 --> 0:30:46.280
<v Speaker 1>tenth season now, um, and he rolls in feeling like

0:30:46.480 --> 0:30:48.720
<v Speaker 1>he's another guy that you could just you can safely draft.

0:30:48.760 --> 0:30:51.880
<v Speaker 1>And I don't feel like there's requisite buzz and recognition

0:30:52.240 --> 0:30:55.520
<v Speaker 1>for mark Ingram for what he did last year. Yeah,

0:30:55.520 --> 0:30:57.760
<v Speaker 1>and people are scared off by the age and he's

0:30:57.840 --> 0:31:00.760
<v Speaker 1>thirty one now, thirty returns through he won this season,

0:31:00.800 --> 0:31:02.520
<v Speaker 1>but he still had a lot of tread on the

0:31:02.560 --> 0:31:05.680
<v Speaker 1>tires for a thirty thirty one year old. Never you know,

0:31:05.760 --> 0:31:07.680
<v Speaker 1>it was never went into the ground in New Orleans,

0:31:07.720 --> 0:31:10.080
<v Speaker 1>was always splitting time. So that helps. Yeah, I think

0:31:10.480 --> 0:31:12.920
<v Speaker 1>I think he's seriously under value too. And you know, Baltimore,

0:31:12.920 --> 0:31:15.479
<v Speaker 1>they're just gonna they're gonna run the ball, whether it's

0:31:15.520 --> 0:31:18.400
<v Speaker 1>Lamar Jackson or Mark Ingram and play great defense or not.

0:31:18.440 --> 0:31:22.000
<v Speaker 1>Gonna be bearing it out a ton. Uh one would

0:31:22.080 --> 0:31:24.000
<v Speaker 1>one would think it's gonna be They're gonna play it

0:31:24.040 --> 0:31:26.840
<v Speaker 1>like last year. And if that happens in Ingram states healthy.

0:31:27.000 --> 0:31:30.400
<v Speaker 1>He's another guy safe RB two flour with RB one

0:31:30.440 --> 0:31:34.680
<v Speaker 1>potential if he can get the two carries it will need.

0:31:35.080 --> 0:31:38.000
<v Speaker 1>Kareem Hunt's got a new head coach, Kevin Stefanski, who

0:31:38.000 --> 0:31:41.200
<v Speaker 1>were familiar with here in Minnesota. Uh. Stefanski has done

0:31:41.240 --> 0:31:43.720
<v Speaker 1>a nice job getting fantasy values out of out of

0:31:43.800 --> 0:31:47.120
<v Speaker 1>his running back for for the last several years. And

0:31:47.560 --> 0:31:49.760
<v Speaker 1>needless to say, Dalvin Cook was electric and he was

0:31:49.800 --> 0:31:53.280
<v Speaker 1>a fantastic fantasy back last season. I think Kareem Hunt,

0:31:53.320 --> 0:31:55.640
<v Speaker 1>who will continue to share time with Nick Chubb and

0:31:55.720 --> 0:31:57.400
<v Speaker 1>much the same role that we saw last year. Even

0:31:57.440 --> 0:31:59.680
<v Speaker 1>though there's a new offense. You can't take Nick Chubb

0:31:59.720 --> 0:32:02.640
<v Speaker 1>off the field, and they still used Kareem Hunt a

0:32:02.800 --> 0:32:06.120
<v Speaker 1>lot last season once he was available on the second

0:32:06.120 --> 0:32:08.600
<v Speaker 1>half of the year. What do you think, Yeah, I mean,

0:32:08.640 --> 0:32:11.960
<v Speaker 1>once Hunt came off the suspension and it didn't take

0:32:12.000 --> 0:32:14.680
<v Speaker 1>him mom and getting warmed up, he was outscoring Nick

0:32:14.760 --> 0:32:17.440
<v Speaker 1>Chubb in PPR leagues and he finished the top twelve

0:32:17.760 --> 0:32:20.520
<v Speaker 1>PPR back more like top seven in the in the

0:32:20.520 --> 0:32:23.240
<v Speaker 1>second half of the season. He was an elite option.

0:32:23.280 --> 0:32:26.520
<v Speaker 1>And Cleveland's got their hands full in a good way

0:32:27.000 --> 0:32:30.520
<v Speaker 1>with Chubb and Hunt. And you know, it's an easy

0:32:30.560 --> 0:32:32.480
<v Speaker 1>call for me on draft if I have to pick one,

0:32:32.520 --> 0:32:35.480
<v Speaker 1>if it's Chubb in the the late first, early second,

0:32:35.560 --> 0:32:38.120
<v Speaker 1>or if it's Hunt in the sixth seventh, Rott will

0:32:38.160 --> 0:32:41.120
<v Speaker 1>take Hunt all day long because he could be the

0:32:41.160 --> 0:32:44.080
<v Speaker 1>better running back. They're both elite. But Hunt led the

0:32:44.160 --> 0:32:47.000
<v Speaker 1>league in rushing as a rookie. I don't think that

0:32:47.120 --> 0:32:49.680
<v Speaker 1>happens very often. Not a couple of years ago the Chiefs,

0:32:49.680 --> 0:32:51.480
<v Speaker 1>he led the league and rushing as a rookie, so

0:32:52.800 --> 0:32:54.840
<v Speaker 1>Seek might have done the same thing. I don't remember.

0:32:54.880 --> 0:32:57.640
<v Speaker 1>It was it was close, I think, and he was

0:32:57.760 --> 0:32:59.760
<v Speaker 1>up there, and then there was Barkley too, I think.

0:32:59.840 --> 0:33:02.120
<v Speaker 1>I see it does happen a lot Barkley. It was

0:33:02.240 --> 0:33:04.760
<v Speaker 1>awesome in his rookie year. Zeke was awesome. Hunt was

0:33:04.760 --> 0:33:09.280
<v Speaker 1>awesome happy last year. Zeke led the league. Last year

0:33:09.600 --> 0:33:12.960
<v Speaker 1>in Barkley's rookie year, Barkley didn't do it. Barkley was president.

0:33:13.960 --> 0:33:17.360
<v Speaker 1>Barkley may have had more total yards than Zeke dip

0:33:17.400 --> 0:33:20.320
<v Speaker 1>but maybe now I don't remember. Um, probably because he

0:33:20.440 --> 0:33:23.000
<v Speaker 1>had like twenty catches of one game. You like manning

0:33:23.640 --> 0:33:25.920
<v Speaker 1>all day long, right back from Rose days. All right, So,

0:33:26.000 --> 0:33:28.640
<v Speaker 1>just from a PPR standpoint, I'm sorry, from a points

0:33:28.640 --> 0:33:32.880
<v Speaker 1>per game standpoint, do you believe Kareem Hunt will have

0:33:33.080 --> 0:33:37.280
<v Speaker 1>more or less fantasy value this year than last year?

0:33:38.240 --> 0:33:42.640
<v Speaker 1>From a per game standpoint? Uh, I would have to

0:33:42.640 --> 0:33:46.800
<v Speaker 1>say more, because that offense was so dysfunctional even when

0:33:46.840 --> 0:33:49.880
<v Speaker 1>Hunt came back. The whole team in general, like, it

0:33:49.960 --> 0:33:52.719
<v Speaker 1>just has to improve. It just it has to, even

0:33:52.760 --> 0:33:56.040
<v Speaker 1>though it's Cleveland and uh. And for that reason, I

0:33:56.040 --> 0:33:59.920
<v Speaker 1>think we'll see a slight uptick in uh, Hunt's production

0:34:00.000 --> 0:34:02.240
<v Speaker 1>and that probably you don't want to not mean on

0:34:02.320 --> 0:34:04.240
<v Speaker 1>Shub as much as they did last year, you know,

0:34:04.320 --> 0:34:06.360
<v Speaker 1>keep him fresh for what they hope is the potential

0:34:06.360 --> 0:34:08.640
<v Speaker 1>playoff runs. So I think, you know, we see a

0:34:08.640 --> 0:34:11.320
<v Speaker 1>little more touches for Hunting, a little less for SHUBs

0:34:11.320 --> 0:34:13.680
<v Speaker 1>and what we saw the latter parts of the season

0:34:14.400 --> 0:34:16.000
<v Speaker 1>last year. So I'll get a little more on a

0:34:16.000 --> 0:34:18.360
<v Speaker 1>per game basis for Hunt. Yeah, you know, Hunt on

0:34:18.440 --> 0:34:21.600
<v Speaker 1>they had five carries per game and he only scored

0:34:21.640 --> 0:34:25.160
<v Speaker 1>three touchdowns, which really torpedoed his fantasy value, but he

0:34:25.239 --> 0:34:27.319
<v Speaker 1>was he was still the receiving numbers for there. He

0:34:27.360 --> 0:34:31.160
<v Speaker 1>was getting targeted four or five, eight, nine times per

0:34:31.200 --> 0:34:34.839
<v Speaker 1>game targeted, and so the targets were there. I think

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<v Speaker 1>things it's easy to see a scenario where he gets

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<v Speaker 1>more rushes and maintains the receiving that he was getting

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<v Speaker 1>last year and just converts it into more touchdowns than

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<v Speaker 1>just the only three that he ended up scoring through

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<v Speaker 1>the second half of last season. Fantasy value does go

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<v Speaker 1>up any of the unsigned guys, Yeah, sorry, go ahead.

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<v Speaker 1>The door open a little bit for Cleveland to deal

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<v Speaker 1>Hunts still. I mean, the course they could train him,

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<v Speaker 1>but how they signed him to the ten. He's not

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<v Speaker 1>He's not a lock to be a Cleveland Browns, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think anybody's I don't think any team is

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<v Speaker 1>going to match his second round tender. But you're right,

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<v Speaker 1>there's there is a trade scenario out there for some

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<v Speaker 1>contending team that loses a running back. Um, so yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe that maybe it does work out that way. Let

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<v Speaker 1>me hit you with some of the unsigned guys and

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<v Speaker 1>tell me if you think these guys are totally cooked

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<v Speaker 1>or is there fantasy value left for any of these guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Davanta Freeman, Lamar Miller, Carlos Hyde, Frank Gore, Well, Frank

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<v Speaker 1>or who want to joke too much about the times

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<v Speaker 1>when he's away, jokes he's gonna survive, you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>dup all out and whenever that comes to Frank Gore.

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<v Speaker 1>But no fantasy value. He hasn't been a meaningful fantasy

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<v Speaker 1>player for a long time. He was the guy you

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<v Speaker 1>picked up off the waiver wire when there was nobody

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<v Speaker 1>else left over the past several seasons to just start

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<v Speaker 1>in a bye week, you know, bye week desperation scenario. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>here has no value. We shouldn't talk about Frank Gore anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>Out of all those guys, you hope it's Devanta Freeman.

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<v Speaker 1>He's not fully cooked, he's he needs to land in

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<v Speaker 1>the right uh scenario. Of course, all these guys do.

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<v Speaker 1>And you're gonna you're gonna give me a hard time

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<v Speaker 1>about Lamar Miller. I know, but I still think so.

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<v Speaker 1>For Lamar Miller, things have been worked out for him

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<v Speaker 1>in Houston. He never ran behind a competent line, but

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<v Speaker 1>the offensive line was always ranked basically dead last in

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<v Speaker 1>his three or four years in Houston. He needs to

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<v Speaker 1>be land in the right spot. Though he's coming off

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<v Speaker 1>in m c L and in the E c L.

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<v Speaker 1>There's nothing too exciting about any of those guys, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's probably why they're still Yeah, I think so too.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't. I don't think I think it'll. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>Carlos Hyde surprises. We didn't think you'd have any fantasy

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<v Speaker 1>value who ended up being a fairly meaningful fantasy guy

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<v Speaker 1>and somebody that if you were start your flexing Carlos

0:36:46.880 --> 0:36:49.120
<v Speaker 1>Hyde most weeks you felt pretty you felt okay about that,

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<v Speaker 1>and he did all right for your team. So you know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a scenario out there with injuries and just the

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<v Speaker 1>right spot where Freeman, Miller, Hyde, Gorere is dead. One

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<v Speaker 1>of these guys will end up having some value. I

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<v Speaker 1>they'll they'll all be drafted, I'm sure in the later

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<v Speaker 1>stages of drafts as handcuffs and maybe maybe as a starter,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a free starter like like Freeman has that potential.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, again, not too excited about any of them.

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<v Speaker 1>Great job, Brian, thanks for all the help to this week.

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<v Speaker 1>Next week, I think we're back to I think we're

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<v Speaker 1>back to Matt Harrison a little explosive output. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>break break down the wide receiver and tight end moves

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<v Speaker 1>much like we have running backs in this show and

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<v Speaker 1>quarterbacks last week. Thanks for listening for everybody, and we'll

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