1 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 1: This is Bloomberg Daybreak here for this Friday, the thirty 2 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 1: first of March in London. Coming up today, historic indictment. 3 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 1: President Trump is charged over a porn star hush money payment. 4 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:17,240 Speaker 1: Easy does it banks suck up less cash from the 5 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 1: Fed's emergency backs dot nt point not eight percent, UK's 6 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:24,760 Speaker 1: marginal boost from joining an Indo Pacific free trade block, 7 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 1: Business confidences on the Upper Smokin' Mirror's economic crime Plan, 8 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:32,199 Speaker 1: those other stories we're looking at in today's papers. And 9 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:37,559 Speaker 1: I'm Leanne Gern's plus out of orbit, Branson's Virgins satellite launched, 10 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:46,880 Speaker 1: business is grounded. That's all straight ahead on Bloomberg Daybreak Europe. 11 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:49,239 Speaker 1: The business news you need to start your day in 12 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 1: just one fifteen minute podcast on Apple, Spotify, the Bloomberg 13 00:00:53,720 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 1: Business app and everywhere you get your podcasts. Good morning. 14 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 1: I'm Alex Webb and I'm Caroline Hitker. Here are the 15 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:07,559 Speaker 1: stories that we're following today. Former US President Donald Trump 16 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 1: has been indicted in New York on charges related to 17 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 1: a hush money payment to a pawn start during his 18 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 1: twenty sixteen campaign. The formal accusation of a crime means 19 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 1: Trump will now have to appear before a court to 20 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 1: answer that charge in what's known as being arraigned. Bloomberg's 21 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 1: Bruce Einhorn has the details the arraignment could happen as 22 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:30,119 Speaker 1: early as Tuesday. As far as what's actually in the indictment, 23 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 1: that's the big question. We don't know because the potential 24 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:38,680 Speaker 1: crime here of paying hush money payments and then misleading 25 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 1: the state about what it is in your business records 26 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 1: in New York, that's usually just a misdemeanor. In order 27 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 1: to make it a felony, that has to be in 28 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 1: furtherance of another crime. And so what that other crime is, 29 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 1: whether it's a campaign finance violation, whether it's tax violation, 30 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 1: whether it's something else. That's still something that we just 31 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 1: don't know about. In a statement, Trump, who is running 32 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 1: for president again, said, is quote political persecution and election 33 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 1: interference at the highest level in history. He is the 34 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 1: first former US president to be indicted in history. And 35 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 1: in a moment, we'll hear a little bit more from 36 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 1: Bloomberg's Boots Eroinhorne is going to join US Live. Chump's 37 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 1: former vice president Mike Pence, says that the prosecution is 38 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 1: clearly politically motivated. Bloomberg's Ad Backster has the details. Pence 39 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:25,800 Speaker 1: says Manhattan da Alvin Bragg ran on prosecuting Dinald Trump 40 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 1: and a long time since I was in law school, 41 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 1: but I remember the old saying, you can indict a 42 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 1: ham Sandwich right the threshold. The burden of proof is 43 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 1: very low. Prosecutors make decisions, discretionary decisions about what they 44 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 1: bring all the time. Pence also says he will decide 45 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 1: on whether to testify on the classified document in January 46 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 1: six investigations in the next few days. In San Francisco. 47 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 1: I'm Ad Baxter Bloomberg Daybreak. Europe banks are using the 48 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 1: fed's emergency lending programs less, in a sign that demand 49 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:58,640 Speaker 1: for liquidity may be stabilizing. The latest weekly data shows 50 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 1: outstanding borrowing dropping to one hundred and fifty three billion 51 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 1: dollars from one hundred and sixty four billion. Treasury Secretary 52 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 1: Janet Yellen says the turmoil of recent weeks is an 53 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 1: opportunity to strengthen the system. These events remind us of 54 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 1: the urgent need to complete unfinished business, to finalize post 55 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:22,800 Speaker 1: crisis reforms, consider whether deregulation may have gone too far, 56 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 1: and repair the cracks and the regulatory perimeter that the 57 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 1: recent tracks have revealed. Yellen's speech to the NABE Economic 58 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 1: Policy Conference comes as the White House plan's tougher rules 59 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 1: for mid sized banks, and in the US monetary policy, 60 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 1: the Fed's preferred inflation indicator, personal consumption expenditure, comes out 61 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 1: later today. The Boston FED President Susan Collins says that 62 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 1: tighter credit conditions may help with inflation. While the banking 63 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 1: system does remain strong and resilient, recent developments will likely 64 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 1: lead banks to take a somewhat more conservative look and 65 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 1: to tighten lending standards. That's contributing to slowing the economy 66 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 1: and reducing inflationary pressures, and these developments may partially offset 67 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 1: the need for additional rate increases. Collins added that she 68 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 1: still thinks that more rate rises are needed to bring 69 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:20,279 Speaker 1: down price rises, but Richmond FED President Thomas Barkin disagreed, 70 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 1: saying that it's too early to judge the impact of 71 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:26,799 Speaker 1: the bank termoil. Neither Collins nor Barkin are voting members 72 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 1: on this year's FOEMC. Here in the UK, the country 73 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:33,720 Speaker 1: is set to join a trade pack with eleven Asia 74 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 1: and Pacific nations three years after officially leaving the EU. 75 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 1: Speaking to Bloomberg, car Owen, the British High Commissioner to Singapore, 76 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:44,159 Speaker 1: sees it as a win for free trade. With the 77 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 1: UK joining, We're going to be the second biggest economy 78 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 1: within the CPTPP group and it turns it from a 79 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:55,599 Speaker 1: pacific agreement into a global agreement of countries that are 80 00:04:56,320 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 1: hugely motivated to retain an advance free, open and fair trade. 81 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 1: The government says that joining the catually named CPTPP will 82 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:10,160 Speaker 1: boost economic growth and geopolitical relations. However, the UK's own 83 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:13,159 Speaker 1: projections published in twenty twenty one, show that joining the 84 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:16,839 Speaker 1: block will only boost GDP by not point not eight percent. 85 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 1: So the last story then, in terms of corporate news, now, 86 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:25,600 Speaker 1: Virgin Orbit Holdings, the satellite launch company tied to billionaire 87 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 1: Richard Branson, is ceasing operations indefinitely. That story now from 88 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 1: Charlie Pellett. The announcement came after it failed to secure 89 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:36,279 Speaker 1: additional funding. In a filing, the company said it as 90 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:39,279 Speaker 1: cutting six hundred and seventy five jobs, or about eighty 91 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 1: five percent of its workforce. A spokesperson for Virgin Orbit 92 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 1: says operations are being halted for the foreseeable future. The 93 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 1: remaining fifteen percent of employees will work on winding down 94 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 1: the business. The move punctuates the rapid fall of the 95 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 1: Long Beach, California based company after a high profile launch 96 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 1: failure in January and a collapse in its stark price. 97 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 1: Virgin Orbit temporarily halted operations earlier this month while it's 98 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 1: sought additional capital in New York. Charlie Pellett, Bloomberg Daybreak, Europe. 99 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 1: So those are a few of our top stories this morning. 100 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 1: Look at hione to. I think we need to talk 101 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 1: about the story around a president Donald Trump. And we 102 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:25,279 Speaker 1: sort of knew and the former president himself had had 103 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 1: tweeted a little while ago that he might be charged arrested, 104 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 1: and so you know, people were watching this. Now he's 105 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:37,279 Speaker 1: become the first former president actually to be indicted. So 106 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 1: this is a kind of formal criminal charge which is 107 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:44,479 Speaker 1: brought by a jury, and this we think around channeling 108 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 1: hush money payments to pawn saw during his twenty sixteen campaign. 109 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:52,919 Speaker 1: Trump has called the indictment political persecution. Joining us now 110 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 1: as Bloomberg's Bruce Einhorn, Bruce, good to have you with us. 111 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:58,840 Speaker 1: So what exactly is this about. Do we think that 112 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 1: it's about campaign finances and how they will use How 113 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:04,160 Speaker 1: much do we know about the charge sheet as it were, 114 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:09,039 Speaker 1: very little because the indictment is still under seal, So 115 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 1: it's unlikely that we're going to see what's inside it 116 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 1: for a while still, possibly not until the arraignment in court, 117 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 1: which former President Trump's lawyers said could happen as early 118 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 1: as Tuesday. That said, there is a sort of wide 119 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 1: expectation that it will be at least partially based on 120 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 1: alleged falsification of business records related to that hush money payment. 121 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 1: And then the big question is what is the additional 122 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 1: crime or crime? What are the additional crimes alleged here? 123 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 1: Because in order to get it up to a felony, 124 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 1: typically in a case like this, there needs to be 125 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 1: another crime. We're hearing all these words that actually aren't 126 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 1: necessarily terribly familiar to a non US audience. Indictment obviously 127 00:07:57,400 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 1: a rest, we know, arraignment, this means we're going to 128 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 1: see the former president, you know, put in handcuffs and 129 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 1: doing a purp walk. Most likely not so. Former President's 130 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 1: Trump lawyer has said that he is not going to 131 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 1: fight this He's not going to stay in Florida and 132 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:22,559 Speaker 1: demand that. The disattorney then tried to extradite him back 133 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 1: to New York. So there is going to be in 134 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 1: orderly surrendered to the court at that point. Yes, the 135 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 1: former president will has have his fingerprints taken, he will 136 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 1: have a mugshot taken. Whether there'll be a purp walk, handcuffs, 137 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 1: I think everybody suspects that that's highly unlikely. Yeah, Okay. 138 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:51,080 Speaker 1: This has been sort of described basically as a stick 139 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 1: of dynamite in US politics, which is not short of those. 140 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 1: I think loads of politicians have already weighed in on this. 141 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 1: Trump has rejected the whole post, says Republicans and Democrats 142 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:05,200 Speaker 1: are so bitterly divided. How do you think this is 143 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:07,839 Speaker 1: going to add in? There's so many layers to this story. 144 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 1: How how do you think it's going to add in 145 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 1: terms of political tension. Well, there are currently only a 146 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 1: handful of declared candidates for the Republican nomination. Former President 147 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 1: Trump is one of them. So some people in the 148 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 1: Trump camp and others in the Republican Party argue that 149 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 1: this will rally the base, that it will solidify his 150 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 1: support and make it easier for him to go ahead. 151 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 1: On the other hand, being under indictment is not always 152 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 1: the best thing when you're when you're actually trying to 153 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:48,559 Speaker 1: run for office, certainly, and winning over independent voters might 154 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 1: be harder if there are charges. Also, keep in mind 155 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 1: that this is the first indictment, but there may be 156 00:09:55,640 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 1: more because the former president is under investigation in multiple places. 157 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 1: So there's the investigation going on in Atlanta Fulton County, 158 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:10,079 Speaker 1: which is where Atlanta, Georgia is um that's the district 159 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:14,560 Speaker 1: attorney there is looking into Trump's attempts to overturn the 160 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 1: election in Georgia in twenty twenty. There's also the Department 161 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 1: of Justice Special Council Jack Smith, who's looking into all 162 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 1: the events leading from the end of the election to 163 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 1: the January sixth uprising. He's also looking at the case 164 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 1: involving the documents at Mara Lago, so there could be 165 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 1: indictments coming there too. So New York is the first, 166 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 1: but we may be having others. So former President Trump 167 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 1: may be facing quite a lot of legal liability in 168 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 1: the in the months ahead. Is it significant electorally that 169 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 1: ultimately that at least the first if there are to 170 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:55,319 Speaker 1: be more to come. Uh, you know, cases being brought 171 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 1: is very much pertains to his relationship with women, and 172 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 1: you know, as we look towards twenty twenty four, the 173 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 1: impact that has on you and the electoral in a 174 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:10,319 Speaker 1: world that is now post rov Wade also, which is 175 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 1: different to the twenty sixteen moment. I think that's that 176 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 1: is a very good point, right because in twenty sixteen, 177 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 1: while there were some people in the pro choice movement 178 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 1: who were warning that a Trump victory could lead to 179 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 1: the overturning of Roe v Wade, I think quite a 180 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 1: lot of people were fairly complacent about that. As we 181 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 1: just saw in the twenty twenty mid terms, this is 182 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 1: an issue that has had quite an effect on rallying 183 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 1: Democratic voters. And so the fact that this involves the 184 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 1: former president's behavior with, you know, an adult film actress, 185 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 1: I don't think that that's going to make that much 186 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 1: of a difference in the Republican primary, because it's no 187 00:11:57,040 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 1: secret that the president has had that. There've been lots 188 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:04,199 Speaker 1: of accusations about the former president. I'man that hasn't seemed 189 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:09,080 Speaker 1: to damage him with his supporters up until now. But yes, 190 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 1: in a general election, it would be a very different story. Okay, 191 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 1: thank you so much Bruce for being with us. Good 192 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 1: to have you on the program this morning. So Bloomberg's 193 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 1: Bruce Ironhorn the former President Donald Trump becoming the first 194 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:25,840 Speaker 1: ex president to be indicted. Coming up next on the program, 195 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:28,680 Speaker 1: Business confidence is on the up, a Smoke and Mirror's 196 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 1: Economic crime plan, and peanuts pay for a top cybersecurity 197 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 1: job at the Treasury. Now the Paper Review on blue 198 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 1: Bird Day Break Europe. The news you need to know 199 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 1: from today's papers. So we're joined by Leanne Guarrant, who's 200 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:46,439 Speaker 1: going to talk us through the some of the top 201 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 1: headlines this morning. We're going to start with The Times, 202 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 1: which has the headline business confidency. It's ten month high. 203 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:55,080 Speaker 1: Lloyd's Bank Barometer shows what's that's all about. Yes, indeed, 204 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:58,840 Speaker 1: alex So, UK firms are really turning more hopeful. If 205 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:02,720 Speaker 1: you look at this later survey, business confidence has risen 206 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:05,680 Speaker 1: to its highest level in ten months now. That's as 207 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 1: companies just become increasingly more optimistic about filling all the 208 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:15,080 Speaker 1: staff shortages that we did see and the economic outlook 209 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 1: for the country. So the latest Lloyd's Bank Business Barometer 210 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 1: study shows optimism about the economy actually rose eleven points 211 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 1: to twenty three percent in the latest poll. So wage expectations, 212 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 1: which are watched so closely by the Bank of England, 213 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 1: we know core inflation is a key issue and they 214 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 1: always watch this. This strengthened slightly in March, but Lloyd 215 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:44,679 Speaker 1: says the signs show that they have peaked from last 216 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 1: year's high, so it looks like those could be coming down, 217 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:51,440 Speaker 1: which they're saying as adding to the outlook of the economy. 218 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 1: And Caroline was talking earlier to Mad's Peterson and he's 219 00:13:56,320 --> 00:14:00,599 Speaker 1: the chief investment officer and founder of Human Edge Investment Technology, 220 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 1: and he was really saying rising wages, dry up cat 221 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:07,960 Speaker 1: drive up core inflation. So this was one of the 222 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 1: big positives that we can take away from the survey 223 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 1: if we want to put it in that kind of rapper. Caroline, Yeah, 224 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 1: and I think there's a couple of new bits of 225 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 1: information about the UK economy that are sort of interesting 226 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 1: that came up just in the last few minutes, which 227 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 1: is that actually the house price drop in March was 228 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 1: worse than we'd expected in terms of nationwide, so you know, 229 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 1: there's a real worry about how solid is that consumer 230 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 1: out there businesses, as you say, a bit more confident. Nationwide, 231 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 1: house prices fell three point one percent year on year. 232 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 1: That was much more than the two point two we'd expected. Also, 233 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 1: the household savings ratio has gone up. We also just 234 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 1: learned that so nine point three percent in the third quarter. 235 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 1: So people are dashing away more cash. Does that help 236 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 1: or hinder the economy? I mean, yeah, it depends how 237 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 1: you look at it. It's quite complax. But what, Caroline, 238 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 1: do you remember that there was pent up demand that 239 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 1: was so talked about throughout the whole pandemic. There was 240 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 1: lots of pent up demand and for spending that and 241 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 1: would that spurred the economy? Now? I think people are 242 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 1: going the other way and as you say, they're saving 243 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 1: more and obviously house prices fell and really it's because 244 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 1: we're paying more interest and lots of people are not 245 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 1: going out to buy houses. So there's lots of going 246 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 1: on in the economy. Yeah. Absolutely. Let's also talk about 247 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 1: the Guardian, the UK's economic crime plans, smoke and mirrors 248 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 1: without new funding. This is a story we've done a 249 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 1: lot of work on. Actually, we spoke to Margaret Hodge, 250 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 1: we spoke to Lord Agnew about this. This is the 251 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 1: Economic and Crime Bill that's coming to the UK. So 252 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 1: basically the idea of like London not being London growd anymore. Yes, indeed, 253 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 1: and I feel like this is a great story because 254 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 1: it's close to Caroline's heart in any way. She did 255 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 1: interview Margaret Hodge, the Labor MP who chairs this All 256 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 1: party Parliamentary Group on Anti Corruption, and she basically says, listen, Caroline, 257 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 1: this economic plan could be smoke and mirrors because the 258 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 1: funding is just inadequate and the investment in it. But 259 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 1: the Home say Katrizuella Brahman released the new strategy yesterday 260 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 1: that's really after a nine month delay. But critics as 261 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 1: well as Margaret Hodge, they're just saying that the government 262 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 1: need to be stronger when tackling dirty money. You know, 263 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 1: they need to really think about cracking down on kleptocrats 264 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 1: and money laundering, sanctions busting and also fraud in the country. 265 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 1: But this was also welcomed. Margaret Hodge said this has 266 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 1: been a good step. We just need to reinforce things 267 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 1: and like you said earlier, Caroline, there has been a 268 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 1: step change in this country. And we also saw that 269 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 1: when a Bramovich he was. Of course, the Chelsea owner 270 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 1: was had to sell the club. This is Bloomberg Daybreak Europe, 271 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 1: your morning brief on the stories making news from London 272 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 1: to Wall Street and beyond. Look for us on your 273 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 1: podcast feed every morning, on Apple's Spotify and anywhere else 274 00:16:56,840 --> 00:16:59,280 Speaker 1: you get your podcasts. 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