1 00:00:01,280 --> 00:00:17,119 Speaker 1: The volume all right, Oko Himson, I here at the 2 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:19,080 Speaker 1: volume heavy Tuesday, everybody. I hope all of you guys 3 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:21,240 Speaker 1: are having an incredible start two week on a Jampack 4 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 1: show for you guys today, Victor weman Yama was out 5 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 1: for blood last night against the Miami Heat. I want 6 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 1: to dig into why I think Victor wemen Yama is 7 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 1: becoming vastly underrated as an offensive player already. I know 8 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 1: that's kind of not the conversation surrounding Wenby this year 9 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 1: because he doesn't have the type of counting stats that 10 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 1: some of his peers do. But I want to dig 11 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 1: into why I think he's becoming very underrated on that 12 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 1: end of the floor. After that, Moses Moody unfortunately suffers 13 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:49,919 Speaker 1: a very ugly injury last night. I want to talk 14 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 1: about what that means for the Golden State Warriors. And 15 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 1: then the Los Angeles Lakers, with a chance to push 16 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 1: their win streak up to ten games in Detroit, end 17 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 1: up falling on a game winning jump shot by Dannis Jenkins. 18 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 1: I want to dig into how Detroit did that to 19 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 1: the Lakers, and then we'll get out here for today. 20 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:09,760 Speaker 1: You guys know the joke before we get started subscribe 21 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 1: to Hoops and O YouTube channels. You don't miss any 22 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 1: more of our videos. Make sure you like this video 23 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 1: and sign up for post notifications. It helps us a lot. 24 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 1: The last not at least you guys want to get 25 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:18,760 Speaker 1: mail back questions in for Friday. We're definitely having a 26 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 1: Friday mail bag this week, so drop your questions in. 27 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:23,839 Speaker 1: I'm going to be recording that tomorrow, so today's episode 28 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 1: will be your last chance to drop mail back questions in. 29 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 1: All right, let's talk some basketball. So one of my 30 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 1: favorite things about Wemby is how much of a savage 31 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 1: competitor he is. I've always thought that the competitive nature 32 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 1: piece is one of the most important swing factors between 33 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 1: players who reach their ultimate potential and players that don't. Obviously, 34 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 1: all NBA players are competitive, at least to a certain extent. 35 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 1: You don't get to the NBA without being competitive, But 36 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 1: even within the NBA there are levels to that. If 37 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 1: you have a deeply held desire to prove yourself as 38 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 1: better than your peers, it can be what drives you 39 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 1: to that point both off the court in your preparation 40 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 1: excuse me, and then also on the court in the 41 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:15,079 Speaker 1: form of motor very much felt like Wenby was trying 42 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:18,800 Speaker 1: to send that message last night, especially against Spam, and 43 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 1: you could see that motor immediately last night. On the 44 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 1: first play of the game, the Furst run one of 45 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 1: their run one of their pet actions, basically a ram 46 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 1: screen into a double drags. Basically, Victor women Yama sets 47 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 1: a screen for Julian Champenny to try to get a 48 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 1: little bit of separation between Champenne and his defender. Then 49 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 1: Champenni sets the ball screen for Steph Castle. Victor turns 50 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 1: around and sets that second ball screen. Anytime you have 51 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 1: two ball screens that are staggered, that's why they call 52 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 1: it a staggered ball screen. And then from there usually 53 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 1: the shooter will pop in the big will roll. Now 54 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:56,080 Speaker 1: because of the first screen actually getting set on Steph Castle, 55 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 1: that gives Victor the opportunity to basically slip out of it. 56 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 1: And on this play, Wemby just sprints into it and 57 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 1: then immediately sprints out of it and gets right behind Bam, 58 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 1: and he's so open that Bam doesn't even bother to 59 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 1: jump and they get one of the easier finishes in 60 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:16,080 Speaker 1: terms of a lob and dunk for Steph Castle. In 61 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 1: Victor weminyawed that they've had this season. That ferocity with 62 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 1: which Wemby was sprinting in and out of those slips 63 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:26,079 Speaker 1: ended up being one of the biggest stories of the 64 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 1: night last night because Miami from that point on was 65 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:32,519 Speaker 1: terrified of those lobs and they were sending all sorts 66 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 1: of bodies at Wemby on his rolls in giving up 67 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 1: open three after open three after open three. On the 68 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 1: very next play they run it, Bam doesn't even attempt 69 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 1: to help on the screen. He just stays glued to Wemby. 70 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 1: So as a result, Davion Mitchell has to step over 71 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 1: and help on the ball handler. That ends up leaving 72 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 1: Harrison Barnes wide open in the right corner. He knocks 73 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 1: it down. Then Devin Vessel gets a wide open corner 74 00:03:57,400 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 1: three in the left corner off of a Wemby tag. 75 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 1: Then Keldon Johnson gets a wide open three in the 76 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 1: left corner off of a Wemby tag. It's just roll gravity, right. 77 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 1: It's funny because we talk about this concept of gravity. 78 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 1: It kind of popped up with Steph Curry. Remember it 79 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:17,159 Speaker 1: was presented as like this revolutionary concept and there was 80 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:20,360 Speaker 1: something unique about Steph Curry's version of gravity because of 81 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:23,600 Speaker 1: how inverted it was. Right, he was the first guy 82 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 1: to consistently generate gravity away from the rim instead of 83 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 1: at the rim, and his gravity was so substantial the 84 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 1: fear of his shooting that it made him the best 85 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:36,799 Speaker 1: offensive engine, literally the best offensive engine in the league 86 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 1: for like six or seven years there in the late 87 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 1: twenty tens. But all gravity is that word gravity. All 88 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 1: it is is a player who is such a threat 89 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 1: to score somewhere on the floor that he can drag 90 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 1: multiple defenders towards him, and that of course creates advantage 91 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 1: or opportunity for the other players on the floor. It's 92 00:04:56,240 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 1: a dynamic that's been around the league forever in various fours. 93 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 1: Whether it's driving gravity with guys like Russell Westbrook or 94 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:07,719 Speaker 1: Derrick Rose or Lebron James, or it's iso gravity for 95 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 1: guys like Kobe Bryant or Kevin Durant when they're like 96 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 1: loading up at the elbow and a triple threat and 97 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 1: all the eyes and all the bodies are moving towards them. 98 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 1: Even though those guys aren't necessarily considered amazing passers, their 99 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 1: gravity did create advantages for people, even role players can 100 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 1: have gravity spot up gravity like Michael Porter Junior on 101 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 1: the weak side of of Denver's action that they run. 102 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 1: You can have action that is taking place in more 103 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:37,160 Speaker 1: space because a role player has gravity on the weak 104 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 1: side because those defenders are scared to help. Then there's 105 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 1: role gravity, right. Guys like Anthony Davis have role gravity 106 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:48,040 Speaker 1: going to the rim. Even lower level players like Daniel 107 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:51,720 Speaker 1: Gafford or Jackson Hayes can have role gravity. But what 108 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 1: we are witnessing with Wemby is the greatest amount of 109 00:05:55,960 --> 00:06:00,479 Speaker 1: role gravity that any big has ever had, because he 110 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 1: brings both the biggest vertical spacing window that any player's 111 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 1: ever had. It's just super easy to hit him on 112 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 1: lobs because of how big of a target you're aiming at, 113 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:14,040 Speaker 1: and he's so incredibly mobile that he can do things 114 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 1: like what he was doing last night to Miami, sprinting 115 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 1: in and out of screens so fast that it's dramatically 116 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 1: warping the defense. I checked the numbers just because I 117 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 1: was curious to see if there was some sort of 118 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 1: statistical manifestation of this dynamic that we've all seen on 119 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 1: the film this season. In theory, if you have a 120 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:39,919 Speaker 1: player that has the greatest amount of role gravity in 121 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:45,279 Speaker 1: the history of the league, he should be drawing more tags. So, 122 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:48,600 Speaker 1: for instance, when Bam is defending a ball screen in 123 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:51,719 Speaker 1: Wemby's rolling, the guy from the weakside corner is going 124 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 1: to come over in tag to help on that role. 125 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 1: That is what that role gravity is. The multiple bodies 126 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:01,159 Speaker 1: is Bam and the body from the week's coming over 127 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 1: to deal with him on the roll. If you have 128 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 1: a player that has the greatest amount of role gravity 129 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:07,479 Speaker 1: in the history of the league, he should be drawing 130 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 1: more tags than anybody in the history of the league. 131 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 1: And as a result, that team should be generating an 132 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 1: enormous amount of corner threes, and the Spurs do. This 133 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 1: is a crazy stat. The Spurs generate twelve point four 134 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 1: corner threes per game, which is the most in the 135 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 1: entire history of the NBA. Now, I want to apply 136 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 1: some of that credit to the Spurs guards, all of them, 137 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 1: Steph Castle, Darn Fox, Dylan Harper. I'll even throw Devin 138 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 1: Vessel in there as well. He's made several of these 139 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 1: really nice corner skips this year. But those guards are 140 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 1: all very good at making the corner skip off of 141 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 1: low Manhel Devin Vessel had a nice one coming off 142 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 1: of like a dribble handoff variation of a double drag 143 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 1: in the middle first quarter yesterday. But it's important that 144 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 1: we acknowledge how valuable that hard roll to the rim is. 145 00:07:56,640 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 1: There were so many sequences last night. Spurs perimeter players 146 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 1: were credited with assists, or made corner threes, or made 147 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:10,240 Speaker 1: baskets where there's no box score stat for Wemby but 148 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 1: where the shot is largely generated because Wemby is drawing 149 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 1: multiple bodies on his role to the writ. I say 150 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 1: that because we have had so many examples of this 151 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 1: in NBA history, where an elite offensive player is somehow 152 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 1: underrated by the masses because they're enabled to see anything 153 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:34,200 Speaker 1: beyond the box score. Steph Curry's probably the greatest example. 154 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 1: The twenty fifteen Finals broke people's brains so bad that 155 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 1: he didn't receive a single Finals MVP vote. A role 156 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:45,960 Speaker 1: player won it, even though Steph was clearly the driving 157 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 1: force behind their offensive success or even in these last 158 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:52,840 Speaker 1: couple of years, everyone's discussing Steph as he's on some 159 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:55,080 Speaker 1: sort of massive decline, and don't get me wrong, his 160 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 1: ability to score the basketball isn't what it once was, 161 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:01,960 Speaker 1: but there's still clear statistical evidence that the Warriors score 162 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 1: extremely well. They have an offensive rating at one twenty 163 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 1: over the last couple of years. When Steph is on 164 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:11,439 Speaker 1: the floor, despite the limited roster and despite his inability 165 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 1: to put the basketball in the hoop like he used 166 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 1: to five years ago. Why because the fear of his 167 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 1: shooting still generates so many advantages for his teammates. I 168 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:27,839 Speaker 1: even think Jokic and Lebron fall into this category when 169 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:31,079 Speaker 1: they're consistently drawing multiple defenders and they make that initial 170 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:34,319 Speaker 1: pass that breaks the defense, so someone else scores off 171 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 1: of like a two on one, a three on two, 172 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 1: of four on three, whatever it might be. It doesn't 173 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 1: show in the box score for those guys, but they're 174 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:44,679 Speaker 1: clearly generating the shot. For ten straight years, from two 175 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 1: thousand and eight to twenty eighteen, Lebron led offenses were 176 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:50,680 Speaker 1: among the very best in the league through like a 177 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:55,440 Speaker 1: half dozen different iterations of surrounding talent as far back 178 00:09:55,440 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 1: as twenty seventeen, when Jokic was twenty two years years old. 179 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 1: The Nuggets with substantially less talent in twenty seventeen, with 180 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:09,959 Speaker 1: jokicch on the floor logged a one sixteen offensive reading. 181 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 1: Now that's a different era, but that was literally higher 182 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:20,560 Speaker 1: than the twenty seventeen Warriors with Stephen kd. 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Wemby wit like he may not 216 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 1: not quite yet be the offensive player of his peers 217 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 1: at the top of the league, but his value overall 218 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 1: offensively is way more than it appears in the numbers. 219 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 1: You see twenty four points per game, three assists, sixty 220 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:22,680 Speaker 1: two percent true shooting. That seems pretty pedestrian, right, But 221 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 1: because of his immense role gravity, which is literally generating 222 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 1: the largest amount of corner threes in the history of 223 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:35,080 Speaker 1: NBA basketball, and because he's so damn good defensively that 224 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:39,239 Speaker 1: he gives his coach a great deal of lineup flexibility 225 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 1: to just surround him with guards and shooting, his team 226 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 1: is scoring the shit out of the basketball. They already 227 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:53,720 Speaker 1: have the fourth best offense in the entire NBA, despite 228 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 1: the fact that he's largely surrounded by extremely young and 229 00:12:57,400 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 1: mostly flawed players. I was listening to the social media 230 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 1: clip that was going around the last couple of days. 231 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 1: I think it might have been yesterday. It was Nick 232 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 1: Wright and Chris Brussard, and they're debating whether or not 233 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:11,720 Speaker 1: Wemby's the best player in the league. For the record, 234 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:14,560 Speaker 1: I do agree with Nick Wright that Wemby's not there yet. 235 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 1: The playoffs are officiated so differently that it's practically a 236 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 1: different sport. Wemby will have to demonstrate his impact on 237 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:26,080 Speaker 1: that stage to get that recognition. By the way, that's 238 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 1: not unique to Wemby. That's a barrier to entry that 239 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 1: every NBA player in NBA history has gone through, and 240 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 1: Wemby will have to go through it too. Where I 241 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:39,560 Speaker 1: disagreed with Nick though, As Nick said, he has to 242 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 1: show the ability to score thirty points consistently, and I 243 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 1: disagree with that because Wemby's offensive value extends far beyond 244 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 1: his ability to put the ball in the basket himself. Now, 245 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:55,680 Speaker 1: if he gets to the point where he can also 246 00:13:55,720 --> 00:14:00,120 Speaker 1: score thirty points consistently, then we're all just screwed. But 247 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 1: I think, as I was watching that game last night, 248 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 1: I'm like, the Spurs are getting open shots every damn time, 249 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:08,079 Speaker 1: and Wenby's not even touching the ball on most of 250 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:12,440 Speaker 1: these possessions. He's just running into a ball screen, slipping hard. 251 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 1: Every Heat player's running with him, Steph Castle, Dylan Harper. 252 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 1: Someone is thrown an easy little cross court pass to 253 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 1: a wide open shooter in the corner and they're knocking 254 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 1: down at three And I'm like, this is the next 255 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 1: version of it. This is the next version of a 256 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 1: great offensive player who's going to be dramatically underrated by 257 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 1: people who look at the box scorer go twenty four 258 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 1: to three. That's not as good as this guy or 259 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 1: that guy, or this guy or that guy. And like again, 260 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 1: like if you dig into it, his team is scoring 261 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 1: remarkably effectively because they can put all these guards with 262 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 1: all this ball handling and all this shooting around him, 263 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 1: and because they generate all these quality looks because of 264 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 1: how much gravity he has rolling to the basket. I 265 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 1: just hope that Wemby does not get similarly underrated like 266 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 1: those guys in the past. I did think this was 267 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 1: particularly fun wemb defensive game. The Heat catch the Spurs 268 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 1: off guard, just like they caught everybody off guard this season. 269 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 1: In that first quarter, you could tell the Spurs were 270 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 1: a little unprepared for just their pace and the quickness 271 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 1: of their attacks. And again, the Heat kind of do 272 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 1: that to everybody. Their play style is so unique that 273 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 1: it takes a little while to adjust and settle into 274 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 1: the game. It actually pretty clearly shows in the numbers. 275 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 1: The Heat have a plus nine point eight net rating 276 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 1: in the first quarter. Like if you just look at 277 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 1: Heat first quarters, they look like a championship contender. That's 278 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 1: the third best net rating in the entire NBA in 279 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 1: the first quarter, but in the second quarter drops to 280 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 1: plus one point four, and then in the second half 281 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 1: they have a negative net rating. Heat fans got upset 282 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 1: at me early in the year for saying their offense 283 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 1: is kind of gimmicky, and that's really all I meant. 284 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 1: It's weird. It catches people off guard. But once you 285 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 1: pick up on the fact that they're basically just playing 286 00:15:57,440 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 1: really fast and attacking you one on one, you realize 287 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 1: they don't really have great one on one talent, and 288 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 1: so all you have to do is make sure you 289 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 1: get back in transition, slide your feet and keep the 290 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 1: ball in front, and you have a really good chance 291 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 1: to get stops against the Heat. So the Heat hung 292 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 1: thirty one points in the first quarter, and then the 293 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 1: Spurs just kind of settled in and methodically took control 294 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 1: from there. But Wemby, as usual at his crazy set 295 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 1: of defensive highlights. My favorite was this sequence where he 296 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 1: shuts down back to vak Kaimehawk has drives one off 297 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 1: of the top of the key, one off of the 298 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 1: right wing, and then there's a kickout to Norm Powell. 299 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 1: He closes out. Norm Palell beats him to the baseline. 300 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 1: Norm Powell does what you're supposed to do. Okay, I've 301 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 1: got a shot blocker chasing me go to the opposite 302 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 1: side of the rim. Why because now the net in 303 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 1: the rim essentially acts as like a shield for me 304 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 1: as I go to reverse the layup and Wemby somehow 305 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 1: beats him to the other side of the rim and 306 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 1: blocks him. It was one of the craziest defensive highlights 307 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 1: I've ever seen. Just he was out for blood last 308 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 1: night and he did a lot of damage to that 309 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 1: Miami Heat team. The spur I wanted to talk about 310 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 1: before we move on is Dylan Harper another twenty one 311 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:07,440 Speaker 1: points last night. He's been crazy good over the last 312 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:09,679 Speaker 1: month and a half or so, really has found a 313 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:13,239 Speaker 1: groove with his jump shot. Thirteen of his twenty one 314 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 1: points last night came from jump shots. Since February seven, 315 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 1: an eighteen game sample for Dylan, he's only averaging thirteen 316 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 1: points per game. But I mean, obviously he has relatively 317 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:29,120 Speaker 1: low opportunity because he's playing alongside so much ball handling 318 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 1: on a dead serious championship team this year as a rookie, 319 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:34,920 Speaker 1: and that's going to prevent him from really pushing volume 320 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:37,680 Speaker 1: in terms of just huge scoring totals, although he was 321 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 1: able to get there last night. But the efficiency with 322 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 1: Dylan has skyrocketed in that eighteen game span. He's at 323 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:49,439 Speaker 1: sixty six percent true shooting, and the efficiency has been 324 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 1: great all over the floor. He's getting to the rim 325 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:55,160 Speaker 1: four point three times per game, which is great volume, 326 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:59,359 Speaker 1: especially when you factor in relatively low usage. He's shooting 327 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:01,640 Speaker 1: seventy percent at the rim when he gets there, which 328 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 1: is absurd for a guard. Fifty two percent on twos 329 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:08,359 Speaker 1: in the paint outside the restricted area, so that's all 330 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:11,920 Speaker 1: your little short shots in the lane, fifty percent from 331 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 1: mid range, forty four percent on corner threes, and forty 332 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 1: five percent on above the break threes. He's even shooting 333 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:23,920 Speaker 1: thirty six percent on off the dribble threes, which is 334 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:28,119 Speaker 1: a great sign for his long term development. I remember 335 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 1: a while back. I can't remember if it was on 336 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:31,679 Speaker 1: my show or his show, but Kevin O'Connor and I 337 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:34,440 Speaker 1: were having a conversation about whether or not the Spurs 338 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:38,119 Speaker 1: should have taken Conk Nipple instead of Dylan Harper given 339 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:41,399 Speaker 1: how close they were championship contention. I actually saw another 340 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:43,159 Speaker 1: social clip from the last couple of days where he 341 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 1: was having a similar conversation with Danny Parkins, And I 342 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 1: think where I've landed on that is that, like, yeah, 343 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:52,720 Speaker 1: in a vacuum, if it was literally just this season, 344 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:56,440 Speaker 1: maybe Kank Nipple's better because he just gives you another 345 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 1: swing role player rebounder type that can help you play 346 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:02,680 Speaker 1: off of the the guard play in Wemby's role gravity 347 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 1: like we talked about. But I just think Dylan Harper 348 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 1: is an absolute star in the making and in the 349 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:13,880 Speaker 1: long run, year two, year three, year four, I think 350 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 1: the Spurs are gonna be very happy with their decision 351 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:19,680 Speaker 1: to take Dylan. Alright, moving out of Warriors mats, and 352 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 1: we're not gonna talk about this game much. I only 353 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 1: saw bits and pieces of the end of it. Both 354 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:25,440 Speaker 1: of these teams are essentially irrelevant in the playoff picture 355 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:26,920 Speaker 1: this year, but I caught the end of the game. 356 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 1: Cooper Flag had a couple of really nice drives to 357 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 1: force overtime. He drew a foul and then had a 358 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 1: really nice kickout past Max Christy in the left corner 359 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 1: that tied it. Neither team could score in the final minute. 360 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 1: Then the Warriors just dominated over time. Moses Moody had 361 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:40,880 Speaker 1: a couple of really impressive plays to ice the game. 362 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 1: He had a big three on the right wing, and 363 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 1: then he drove a close out off the left wing 364 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 1: and made a drop off pass to the dunker spot. 365 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 1: But then he blows out his knee on a transition play. 366 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 1: In all honesty, I made a point to skip this 367 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:56,880 Speaker 1: clip when I was watching the game this morning. As 368 00:19:56,920 --> 00:20:00,960 Speaker 1: long as I'm still playing basketball, I de liberately avoid 369 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 1: watching stuff like this for the sake of my mental 370 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 1: health as a basketball player. I just don't want to 371 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 1: have to think about that sort of thing. But I 372 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:12,960 Speaker 1: heard it was exceptionally bad. First and foremost, I wish 373 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:17,439 Speaker 1: Moses a smooth and speedy recovery. I'm very thankful that 374 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 1: he's currently on a long term deal with multiple guaranteed 375 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:24,360 Speaker 1: years left, so he doesn't necessarily have to stress out 376 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:27,399 Speaker 1: about his place in the league during his rehab. He 377 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 1: can take his sweet time, sit out the entire season 378 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:33,359 Speaker 1: next year, do his very best to get back, and 379 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 1: he will almost certainly have another opportunity a full season 380 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 1: in that following year to try to earn himself another 381 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:42,359 Speaker 1: contract in the NBA. So I was very thankful for that. Specifically, 382 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 1: this would have been awful if he was heading into 383 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 1: contract negotiations this summer. But for the Warriors, this is 384 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:53,639 Speaker 1: going to be a very tough injury to handle. The 385 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:57,400 Speaker 1: season has been absolutely cursed for them between Stephan Draymond 386 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 1: both excuse me, Steph and Jimmy both getting injured with 387 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:03,879 Speaker 1: their knees this year. Staff obviously less dramatically so, but 388 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:07,359 Speaker 1: the injuries to their stars. You have the Kristaps porzingis 389 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 1: illness injury, illness issues when he came over from the trade. 390 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:13,919 Speaker 1: Now you have the Moses Moody piece. Moses was one 391 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 1: of their most valuable assets both on and off the 392 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 1: court as a quality perimeter defender who also shoots forty 393 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 1: percent from three at a position the Warriors have generally 394 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:30,160 Speaker 1: been thin at since the Andrew Wiggins trade, Like they've 395 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:31,960 Speaker 1: been pretty deep at the four, but a little thin 396 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:34,680 Speaker 1: at the three spot. Now, Kerr loves to run a 397 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:36,879 Speaker 1: lot of three guard lineups, but like he represents a 398 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 1: player they didn't really have a ton of depth in, 399 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 1: but also as a trade asset, like he's a really 400 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:47,480 Speaker 1: good three and D player on a good contract. He 401 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:50,359 Speaker 1: was the only player on the Warriors payroll that made 402 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:53,720 Speaker 1: between ten and twenty five million, which made him a 403 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 1: very valuable trade asset. So regardless of how Golden State 404 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 1: used him next year, either as a key rotation player 405 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 1: or as a trade piece, he was one of the 406 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:07,679 Speaker 1: most valuable people in that organization. So it's just a 407 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 1: devastating blow, and for a team that already was going 408 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:14,400 Speaker 1: to be operating with an extremely small margin for air 409 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:18,919 Speaker 1: next season. I'm not sure if this is the final 410 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 1: nail in the coffin. I'm always reluctant to count out 411 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:23,240 Speaker 1: all time greats like Steph Curry. We're talking about that 412 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:26,359 Speaker 1: competitiveness earlier, like we'd be foolish to pretend it's over. 413 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:29,760 Speaker 1: But last night felt like it could be the final 414 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 1: blow to this era of Warriors basketball. Definitely a cursed 415 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 1: season in the Bay Area. All right, before we get 416 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 1: out of here today, Lakers Pistons. This was actually the 417 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:47,120 Speaker 1: game that I was most worried about on the Lakers 418 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 1: East Coast road trip. I actually expected the Lakers to 419 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 1: sweep Houston, which is a testament both to how much 420 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 1: more I believe in this Lakers team than I used 421 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 1: to and just how bad I think the Rockets are 422 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 1: relative to the middle here in the West and for 423 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 1: a Laker. For you Lakers fans out there, the beautiful 424 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 1: thing about what happened last night is the Lakers dropped 425 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 1: that game, but Houston ends up losing in Chicago, and 426 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:11,720 Speaker 1: Houston was the one team that was a game ahead 427 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 1: in the lost column of Minnesota and Denver. So the 428 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 1: Lakers basically lost no ground in the standings last night, 429 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 1: which is good for them. I knew Orlando would be tough, 430 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 1: but I just don't think Orlando, even when they're fully healthy, 431 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:26,640 Speaker 1: is as good if Franz Wagner's obviously been out all year, 432 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 1: But I would even argue even when they're fully healthy, 433 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 1: I just don't think Orlando's as good as Detroit. But Detroit, 434 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:34,399 Speaker 1: even without Kate Cunningham, that was the team I was 435 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:36,880 Speaker 1: most scared of on this road trip. As someone who 436 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:40,240 Speaker 1: roots for the Lakers, I've been talking a lot lately 437 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 1: about how I measure Detroit's playoff chances, and what I've 438 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 1: been saying is how much they're able to dominate games 439 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:51,480 Speaker 1: physically is what's going to determine their success because their 440 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 1: half court offense is so bad even with Kate. There's 441 00:23:55,119 --> 00:24:00,639 Speaker 1: a spectrum between them dominating games physic the way they 442 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 1: did in the regular season and somebody being able to 443 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 1: neutralize that and them leaning on their half court offense 444 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:13,719 Speaker 1: in the playoffs. They're going to land somewhere in that spectrum. 445 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:17,480 Speaker 1: And if it's closer to how much they dominate games 446 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:20,960 Speaker 1: physically in the regular season, that team's gonna win the conference. 447 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 1: But if it's with each step it gets closer to 448 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 1: them having to lean more on their half court offense 449 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 1: because someone's able to go toe to toe with them 450 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 1: physically match that neutralize that. That's where they become a 451 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:40,360 Speaker 1: substantial upset risk. The Pistons on the margins are kind 452 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:44,399 Speaker 1: of like a more exaggerated version of the Thunder I 453 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:46,399 Speaker 1: said last year in the playoffs. If you guys remember 454 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:49,960 Speaker 1: I said the real star of the Thunder was their defense. 455 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:53,359 Speaker 1: Shake KOs As Alexander is clearly better this year than 456 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 1: he was last year, but last year he was somewhat uneven. 457 00:24:56,160 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 1: In the postseason, his efficiency tanked from where it was 458 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 1: in the regular season. He had some really good moments, 459 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 1: but he also had a lot of really bad moments 460 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 1: some games where he didn't manage the flow of the 461 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 1: game really well. Jack deep shots early shot his team 462 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 1: at a rhythm. He was part of the reason why 463 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:13,879 Speaker 1: they got pushed to seven twice. Their young stars were 464 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 1: even more inconsistent than that, but the OKC defense was 465 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 1: there every minute of every single game. That was the 466 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:27,240 Speaker 1: star of that team. Perhaps the most impressive stat from 467 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 1: that playoff run last year was that they held the 468 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 1: vaunted Denver Nuggets offense to just a one to oh 469 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 1: four offensive rating in that seven game series, fifteen points 470 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:44,680 Speaker 1: per one hundred possessions below their regular season average. That's 471 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:48,120 Speaker 1: essentially how I feel about this year's Pistons team. Obviously, 472 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,159 Speaker 1: Kaid's not as good as Shaye, but I feel like 473 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:55,920 Speaker 1: the star of this Pistons team is their defense. Like Shaye, 474 00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:59,680 Speaker 1: Caid is a young star on the rise. I think 475 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 1: we can continue to see massive leaps out of Kid, 476 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 1: just like we've seen out to Shay. He's not as 477 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:06,119 Speaker 1: good a player, but he's on a similar trajectory in 478 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:08,320 Speaker 1: terms of just getting way better every year as one 479 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:10,719 Speaker 1: of the best young players in this league. But right now, 480 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 1: Kid's young and inconsistent. He's gonna have playoff games where 481 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 1: he looks great, and playoff games where he looks bad. 482 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 1: That's almost like a sure thing this year. The star 483 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:24,439 Speaker 1: of this Pistons team is their size, their athleticism, and 484 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:26,919 Speaker 1: their defense. That is why they've been able to go 485 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 1: eight and two since Caid went down. That's why they 486 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,240 Speaker 1: have a plus four point two net rating this season 487 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:34,480 Speaker 1: when Kid is off the floor, and it's why they 488 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:38,480 Speaker 1: are able to drag that vaunted healthy Lakers offense into 489 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 1: the mud last night and give themselves a chance to 490 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:43,800 Speaker 1: win that game. I thought as a team, they did 491 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 1: a great job bringing intense physicality from the start and 492 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 1: setting a tone with the officiating that gave the game 493 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:56,120 Speaker 1: very much a deeply physical, playoff feel. They got three 494 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:58,560 Speaker 1: deflections in the first minute of the game, caught the 495 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:01,520 Speaker 1: Lakers off guard with their intense there really dislodged them 496 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 1: in terms of their comfort handling the basketball. Luca's been 497 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 1: handling the basketball really well lately. He was fumbling it 498 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 1: all over the place last night because of that intensity. 499 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 1: I thought sar Thompson did a phenomenal job guarding Luke 500 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:15,600 Speaker 1: all night long. As a team, the Pistons held Luca 501 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:19,560 Speaker 1: to thirty two points on twenty nine shots. In the 502 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 1: fourth quarter, they forced the Lakers into seven turnovers. You 503 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 1: could feel the Lakers rushing in that quarter as it's 504 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:28,680 Speaker 1: like Jackson Hayes drops a wide open drop off pass 505 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:32,439 Speaker 1: underneath the basket, or Jackson Hayes rifles a short roll 506 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:34,720 Speaker 1: pass out of bounds when Jake Laaravia is standing wide 507 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:37,399 Speaker 1: open at the top of the key. Austin Reeves just 508 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:40,359 Speaker 1: dribbles right up the floor into a trap with Kevin 509 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 1: Herder and turns it over on the sideline. Dawstin Reeves 510 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 1: turns it over by dribbling into the back court as 511 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:49,439 Speaker 1: he takes a screen off of the like kind of 512 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:51,679 Speaker 1: close to that mid court line. Like you could feel 513 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:56,480 Speaker 1: the ball pressure just causing the Lakers to work late 514 00:27:56,520 --> 00:28:00,879 Speaker 1: into the shot clock and just make uncharacteristic mist lebron 515 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 1: skipped pass to the right corner where it's open, but 516 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:04,720 Speaker 1: he just throws it to light and it ends up 517 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:07,800 Speaker 1: being a turnover, just like a lot of Again, that's 518 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:10,679 Speaker 1: a Lakers team that's been playing really good basketball, and 519 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:12,919 Speaker 1: especially in that second half, they threw a great punch 520 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 1: and they had the Lakers shook up at various points 521 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 1: in that game with their athleticism and their physicality, they 522 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:24,080 Speaker 1: just needed to get a handful of offensive contributions down 523 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:26,920 Speaker 1: the line to get a win, and they got them. 524 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:28,640 Speaker 1: I got two of the biggest shots of the game, 525 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:31,359 Speaker 1: where those two Duncan Robinson threes that started the third quarter. 526 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,440 Speaker 1: The Lakers have been an outstanding third quarter team during 527 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:36,679 Speaker 1: this run, as they've come out super focused time and 528 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:38,880 Speaker 1: time again to try to take control of games, and 529 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 1: they did so again last night. They came out in 530 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:43,840 Speaker 1: that third quarter ready to go, and they punched Detroit 531 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 1: in the mouth and they got back into that game. 532 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 1: But Duncan Robinson hit back to back threes in the 533 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:50,320 Speaker 1: first couple of possessions of that second of that third quarter, 534 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 1: and those proved to be absolutely massive in turning what 535 00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,240 Speaker 1: was a run that got the Lakers back into the game, 536 00:28:57,840 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 1: it kept it there instead of it being a run 537 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 1: that put the Lakers in control of the game. I 538 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:04,840 Speaker 1: thought those were monster shots. He had a lot of 539 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 1: gravity in this game, too, Like Jalen Duran ended up 540 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:09,960 Speaker 1: getting ten free throw attempts and got to open on 541 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 1: a lot of slips and rolls and things like that, 542 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 1: and a big part of that it was Duncan just 543 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 1: running off of those dhos and two Lakers running with him, 544 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:21,160 Speaker 1: opening up easy pocket passes. Jalen obviously had a big 545 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 1: size advantage all night long. He capitalized on that was 546 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:26,880 Speaker 1: monster efficient underneath the basket. So they ended up in 547 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:28,800 Speaker 1: a clutch game, close game where the Lakers have been 548 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,640 Speaker 1: dominant this year and they just needed a couple of 549 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:35,400 Speaker 1: clutch shots to go and they got them. Tobias Harris 550 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:39,040 Speaker 1: hits a tough left shoulder fade over Luka Doncics they 551 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:41,160 Speaker 1: were in the lane. That was a huge shot, so 552 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 1: then the Lakers try to avoid that from happening. Lebron 553 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:46,480 Speaker 1: does an amazing job blowing up that play. The very 554 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 1: next time they run, he gets in front of it, 555 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 1: fronts of the post, stops to Bias from getting the ball. 556 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 1: So they end up having to go to Danis Jenkins 557 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:54,240 Speaker 1: down the stretch of the game, and Dannis Jenkins was 558 00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:57,360 Speaker 1: able to get downhill to his right hand twice. Once 559 00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:59,520 Speaker 1: he pumped, faked and got Jake Lavi off his feet 560 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:00,880 Speaker 1: and drew a fast and then on the other one 561 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:04,720 Speaker 1: the game winner, that was a nasty step back going 562 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 1: to his left over the top of Austin Reeves that 563 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,960 Speaker 1: won the game. I talked a lot after the k 564 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 1: Cunning game injury about how this stretch was going to 565 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:15,120 Speaker 1: put a ton of pressure on Danis as a ball handler, 566 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:19,320 Speaker 1: and he just continues to be excellent. He had twenty 567 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:22,200 Speaker 1: two against the Warriors on Friday. He had thirty against 568 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:24,600 Speaker 1: the Lakers last night. Hit a couple of really important 569 00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 1: spot up threes during their second quarter run in that game. 570 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:32,040 Speaker 1: Obviously hit a couple of mid range jump shots throughout 571 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:34,760 Speaker 1: as well. Danis was fantastic. He's actually been a pretty 572 00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 1: solid shot creator for the Pistons this year, just in 573 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:39,160 Speaker 1: a small sample three hundred and ninety pick and rolls 574 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:43,120 Speaker 1: including passes, three hundred and seventy one points. That's zero 575 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 1: point ninety five points per possession. That's not star creation 576 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:47,600 Speaker 1: or anything like that, but that's like, hey, if we 577 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:50,080 Speaker 1: need to give the ball to Danas, he can create 578 00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:53,719 Speaker 1: a shot. He's shot forty five percent this year on 579 00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:56,640 Speaker 1: twos out of ISO that little step back over Austin. 580 00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:58,920 Speaker 1: He's been hitting just under half of those this year. 581 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:01,480 Speaker 1: He's come through in a big way in a lot 582 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 1: of clutch situations this year, and he came through in 583 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:06,600 Speaker 1: a huge way last night to steal that game against 584 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:11,440 Speaker 1: the Lakers. I've seen some parallels between this Oklahoma this 585 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:14,000 Speaker 1: Detroit team, and that Oklahoma City team in the sense 586 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:15,760 Speaker 1: that as the league. You remember a couple of years 587 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:17,960 Speaker 1: ago when the league got sick of the super high 588 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:19,920 Speaker 1: scoring and they started to allow teams to get away 589 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 1: with more physicality, and that obviously gets exaggerated to an 590 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 1: even greater extent when you get to the postseason, and 591 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:26,720 Speaker 1: that has been a big part of what has allowed 592 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 1: Oklahoma City to have their success. Oklahoma City beats the 593 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:32,280 Speaker 1: shit out of you for forty eight minutes, they commit 594 00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 1: one hundred fouls and get called for way less than that. 595 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:37,440 Speaker 1: Because they set a tone from the start of the 596 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:40,160 Speaker 1: game foul foul, foul, foul, foul, and the ref's not 597 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 1: gonna blow the whistle every single damn time. It becomes 598 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:45,320 Speaker 1: part of the identity of the game. The example from 599 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:47,479 Speaker 1: last night that I'd use. You remember when Austin went 600 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:52,120 Speaker 1: back court. You watch the replay of that play. As 601 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:55,160 Speaker 1: Austin's going over the first screen, Asar Thompson is trying 602 00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:57,480 Speaker 1: to fight over the top of the screen, and if 603 00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:00,360 Speaker 1: you watch him, he just lunges forward with his right 604 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:03,720 Speaker 1: knee and launches his right knee into Austin to get 605 00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:06,880 Speaker 1: over the screen, and that right knee pushes Austin into 606 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:09,760 Speaker 1: the backcourt. It's a foul, but it's a foul that 607 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 1: took place thirty forty fifty times in that game. You 608 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:17,120 Speaker 1: set a tone and you get away with it. By 609 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:19,480 Speaker 1: the way, that's not just a Detroit thing. That's a 610 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:21,360 Speaker 1: thing that a lot of the best defenses in the 611 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:24,680 Speaker 1: league do, and that Oklahoma City won a championship doing 612 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:28,680 Speaker 1: last year. That's modern NBA basketball. That is what is allowed. 613 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:31,640 Speaker 1: And it actually, as I was watching that game last night, 614 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:35,080 Speaker 1: I'm sitting there thinking like, maybe we are underrating Detroit 615 00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,440 Speaker 1: a little bit in the same way that we underrated 616 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:41,400 Speaker 1: Oklahoma City last year, because we're not accounting for the 617 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:45,080 Speaker 1: fact that the officiating is in a phase in NBA 618 00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:48,760 Speaker 1: history where they're allowing a lot of that shit and 619 00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:52,880 Speaker 1: that can prove to be devastating in the postseason, just 620 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:56,080 Speaker 1: like it was for Oklahoma City last year. If you're 621 00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:59,000 Speaker 1: a Detroit fan, this is the best time in modern 622 00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:02,920 Speaker 1: NBA history to have this type of team. And if 623 00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:05,760 Speaker 1: they go in there and they physically maul Cleveland and 624 00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:09,200 Speaker 1: they physically mauled Detroit and they physically mauled New York. 625 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:13,560 Speaker 1: They're gonna be in the NBA Finals. I think that 626 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:16,760 Speaker 1: these this eight and two stretch without Kate is very 627 00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:20,000 Speaker 1: encouraging for that specific fact. Really quickly on the Lakers 628 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:21,200 Speaker 1: before we get out of here. I'm not gonna linger 629 00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:23,360 Speaker 1: here long. It's funny because there's plenty to be annoyed 630 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:26,400 Speaker 1: about last night, Like, Luca was pretty bad on both ends, 631 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:29,680 Speaker 1: especially in the second half. I hated the final two possessions. 632 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:32,320 Speaker 1: Austin clearly was in rhythm and was cooking Dannis over 633 00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:35,400 Speaker 1: and over again, and then Luca just co opted the possession, 634 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:38,080 Speaker 1: took a bad fade away over Kevin Hurder missed it, 635 00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:40,920 Speaker 1: and the final play obviously drawn up for Luca coming 636 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,520 Speaker 1: off of that flare screen from Mexicaliba. They also as 637 00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:45,920 Speaker 1: a team just made a million avoidable mistakes in the 638 00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:48,800 Speaker 1: second half. Austin and Lebron had some uggly fourth quarter turnovers. 639 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:51,800 Speaker 1: To the point about that play with Asar Thompson, like, 640 00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:54,800 Speaker 1: if you know that that physicality is being allowed, maybe 641 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:57,200 Speaker 1: don't set your ball screen right at the half court line. 642 00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:59,080 Speaker 1: Get a little bit deeper before you set that ball 643 00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:01,200 Speaker 1: screen right, Like there's a lot of different things that 644 00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:04,280 Speaker 1: the Lakers could clean up. Those Jackson turnovers are really frustrating, 645 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:06,959 Speaker 1: Jake Laavia, Like, you can't be jumping off of your 646 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:10,160 Speaker 1: feet when you've done your job funneling Danis into the 647 00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:13,040 Speaker 1: rim protector. Like lots of mistakes. But I'm giving the 648 00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:16,000 Speaker 1: Lakers like a complete pass for that game. They've been 649 00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:18,120 Speaker 1: going on hundred miles an hour for a few weeks now. 650 00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:22,120 Speaker 1: This road trip has been absolutely grueling Ruy and Marcus. 651 00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:24,040 Speaker 1: Obviously Detroit fans aren't going to accept that as an 652 00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:27,600 Speaker 1: excuse with Kadou, But like, just strictly speaking about the Lakers, 653 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:31,400 Speaker 1: you're beat up. You're like the Pistons are in a 654 00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:33,880 Speaker 1: home standoff of two full days of rest. They were 655 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:38,720 Speaker 1: off Saturday and Sunday, so they're home rested, young, athletic, hungry, 656 00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:42,280 Speaker 1: really want to win that game. You're playing this huge, 657 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:46,760 Speaker 1: congested stretch of road games against all physical teams, Houston physical, 658 00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:51,440 Speaker 1: Houston physical, Orlando physical, Detroit physical. The Lakers were just 659 00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:56,160 Speaker 1: clearly beat up. The Pistons had a clear physical advantage. 660 00:34:56,280 --> 00:35:00,000 Speaker 1: I'm giving them a complete pass for what happened last night. 661 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:04,160 Speaker 1: And yet despite going into the half down thirteen they 662 00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:07,760 Speaker 1: still came out and battled their asses off and made 663 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:10,640 Speaker 1: that a game. And if Detroit doesn't hit two tough 664 00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:13,400 Speaker 1: left shoulder fades, the Tobias Harris won in the lane, 665 00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:16,680 Speaker 1: and obviously the Danis Jenkin Jenkins won in the right 666 00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:18,640 Speaker 1: short corner, the Lakers would have won that game, and 667 00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:20,360 Speaker 1: they'd be on a ten game winning streak. So, like 668 00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:23,920 Speaker 1: I overall, am continuing to be very pleased and impressed 669 00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:26,360 Speaker 1: by the Lakers. I'm giving them a complete pass for 670 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:28,279 Speaker 1: what happened last night. All right, guys, That's all I 671 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:30,360 Speaker 1: have for today is always sincerely appreciate you guys for 672 00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:33,000 Speaker 1: supporting us and supporting the show. We'll be back tomorrow 673 00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:37,480 Speaker 1: with more game reaction. I will see you, guys,