WEBVTT - QLS Classic: Doug E. Fresh Part 2

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<v Speaker 1>Questlove Supreme is a production of iHeartRadio.

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<v Speaker 2>This is Part two. Doug describes a journey to becoming

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<v Speaker 2>hip hop star and one of the world's greatest entertainers.

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<v Speaker 2>I really like this episode and you will too. I

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<v Speaker 2>have a question about the Oh my God record.

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>I know that we're in a whole different time period now,

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<v Speaker 1>So having grown up in Reagan's America, which was heavily Christian, conservative,

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<v Speaker 1>more you know, moral majority, all those things, I can

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<v Speaker 1>see I had a different opinion of it when I

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<v Speaker 1>first heard it, and of course thirty years later, opinions

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<v Speaker 1>have changed, and we now live in a time period

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<v Speaker 1>where like we believe that you know, in his choice

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<v Speaker 1>and whatnot. But you know, even before Common did retrospect

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<v Speaker 1>for life, I remember like how big the abortion song

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<v Speaker 1>was on your first album. So what was the what

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<v Speaker 1>was the what was the because the thing is like

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<v Speaker 1>on that on that debut record of yours. The two

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<v Speaker 1>things that my two takeaways was definitely you know, play

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<v Speaker 1>this only at night really truly could have been given

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<v Speaker 1>Moments in Love a run for its money.

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<v Speaker 2>But like the first New.

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<v Speaker 1>Jack kind of you know, slow join right, and I

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<v Speaker 1>just at that point I never heard a rapper really

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<v Speaker 1>get topical about anything that wasn't just street conditions or

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<v Speaker 1>you know, violence on you know, like day to day violence.

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<v Speaker 1>Like you just never heard the rapper rapping about abortion?

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<v Speaker 1>What what prompted you? What prompted you to even go there?

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<v Speaker 4>Wow?

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<v Speaker 2>You know because back then.

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<v Speaker 3>It was you yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well well I'm

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<v Speaker 3>gonna tell you two things. And that's a beautiful question.

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<v Speaker 3>I like how you slipped that, And I like how

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<v Speaker 3>you did that.

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<v Speaker 4>That was so stupid, and I haven't forgot about.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, we get to trust me, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 3>but look what happened was, as you know hip hop,

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<v Speaker 3>the expression is raw.

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<v Speaker 4>All the Way to Heaven is the first song ever

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<v Speaker 4>dedicated to God.

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<v Speaker 3>That's before Jesus walk, that's before anybody ever did it.

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<v Speaker 3>It was a chance, it was. All the Way to

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<v Speaker 3>Heaven was created because we were happy. We were happy

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<v Speaker 3>about what God has given to us. So so when

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<v Speaker 3>I'm saying different, can.

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<v Speaker 1>I can I just briefly issue if you for one

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<v Speaker 1>second and maybe you could double this answer, because I

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<v Speaker 1>swear to God I would I would have killed myself

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<v Speaker 1>if I didn't ask this question.

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<v Speaker 2>Speaking of All the Way to Heaven can you please.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I heard you explain this once on a

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<v Speaker 1>radio show back in like eighty six, and I.

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<v Speaker 2>Could not never find this quote.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you explain the the the the the logic you

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<v Speaker 1>had with creating the show as far as its spiritual element,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I think I heard you say one time where

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<v Speaker 1>you like, so no, no, no, you mentioned something about like like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god, like he purposely chows, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>sound body with a six six six six minutes thing,

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<v Speaker 1>even like is he real?

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<v Speaker 2>Like it's I thought I read this. I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>if I dreamed or.

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<v Speaker 4>Not if you say is it real? Fast? Right? So

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<v Speaker 4>that's that's right.

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<v Speaker 3>That was how and and oh my god, you know

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<v Speaker 3>and kind of like you know a lot of things

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<v Speaker 3>for me hopping through dreams, Like even the show came

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<v Speaker 3>to me in a dream. It was like I woke

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<v Speaker 3>up and something told me to do it, the same

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<v Speaker 3>way I just did this new project about Chuck Brown.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like this is happened to me, No, but it happens.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a real interesting way that artists create. So what

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<v Speaker 3>I did, oh my God is a real I told

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<v Speaker 3>Barer and Will and they was like, how you're going

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<v Speaker 3>to have us cut these two things at the same time.

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<v Speaker 4>I said, trust me, it's going to work.

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<v Speaker 3>And when they started cutting it, it just became that

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<v Speaker 3>was I consciously thinking about the creator. I can't really

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<v Speaker 3>say I was. It was just something that was making

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<v Speaker 3>me do this. Now, a lot of people thought that

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<v Speaker 3>when it was saying six minutes, it was worshiping the devil,

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<v Speaker 3>but it wasn't none of that. It was just that

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<v Speaker 3>it was a kind of a cool thing in a

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<v Speaker 3>way where if you listen.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm more of a rhyme style list.

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<v Speaker 3>So when I'm doing something, it's never gonna be what

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<v Speaker 3>you believe it should be. I'm not trying to be

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<v Speaker 3>the greatest rapp up. I'm trying to convey an idea

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<v Speaker 3>and that's.

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<v Speaker 4>My main focus. So six minutes, six minutes, six minutes,

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<v Speaker 4>Doggi versa.

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<v Speaker 3>It's it became kind of like or like no no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 3>no no, we didn't no no no.

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<v Speaker 4>No no no no no. See, like it's not a rhyme.

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<v Speaker 4>And then and then if you're think about the show

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<v Speaker 4>when it's going on and in the back you can hear.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 4>But because because all of these different pieces.

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<v Speaker 3>Kind of like it was more it was changing the

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<v Speaker 3>way and a hip hop artists were to approach things.

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<v Speaker 3>I was changing what you considered to be hip hop.

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<v Speaker 3>I wanted you to expand. I wanted you to think

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<v Speaker 3>that you can't. You don't need just one DJ. You

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<v Speaker 3>can use two, you can use three. I wanted you

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<v Speaker 3>to think about listen to the rom it's all because

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<v Speaker 3>put a song in a rock me shall like, let's

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<v Speaker 3>do something different, because you gotta be flashed to rock

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<v Speaker 3>with and I'm known for the not like, let's let's

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<v Speaker 3>play at the end of the song. I'm doing as

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<v Speaker 3>you can see most definitely, I'm not rhyming.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm talking to you. We are like like it's it's

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<v Speaker 4>it's changing.

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<v Speaker 1>A spiritual song is like the show hip hop's first

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<v Speaker 1>spiritual song or with see.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that in its own way, organically it probably

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<v Speaker 3>was without without consciously doing it, okay.

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<v Speaker 4>And I wouldn't. I wouldn't.

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<v Speaker 3>I wouldn't say that I consciously did everything that way.

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<v Speaker 3>I just feel like I was driven to do that,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, and then all the way to heaven, me

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<v Speaker 3>and Rick was going to do together. So when I

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<v Speaker 3>made on my guard, I was in a very I

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<v Speaker 3>was in a state where I was feeling bad because

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<v Speaker 3>of the way I had to keep this thing going,

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<v Speaker 3>because I thought me and them together was really good,

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<v Speaker 3>and I felt like I was disappointing a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>the people who loved the chemistry. So I was in

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<v Speaker 3>a position where I felt like I had to keep moving,

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<v Speaker 3>and I know that some people would would take it

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<v Speaker 3>a different way.

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<v Speaker 4>But I also felt all the way to Heaven was important.

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<v Speaker 3>Because I felt like, how can I go from this

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<v Speaker 3>point forward and not give thanks to the creator for

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<v Speaker 3>what was done. I'm a guy that saved up this money,

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<v Speaker 3>went in there, made these records. A dude owed me money.

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<v Speaker 3>I went to the studio at my friend's house. I

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<v Speaker 3>made this up and it exploded, and it's one of

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<v Speaker 3>those stories that nobody would ever believe is true.

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<v Speaker 4>So I'm thankful.

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<v Speaker 3>And even though me and Rick got our issues or

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<v Speaker 3>things wasn't working out, I'm still thankful. So then I

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<v Speaker 3>also felt that a song like abortion, the baby on

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<v Speaker 3>that record is being born, and that's Banard's right, that's

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<v Speaker 3>Banard writes Son. He went into the room, he was

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<v Speaker 3>in the room when his wife had the baby, and

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<v Speaker 3>I said recorded, I said recorded, I want that on

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<v Speaker 3>my record. He said, I'm coming back with it. He

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<v Speaker 3>went in there with the recorder. The baby was crying,

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<v Speaker 3>and I put it on the top of the song.

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<v Speaker 4>Now why did I do that?

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<v Speaker 3>I did that because I felt at that particular time

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<v Speaker 3>that this is the most beautiful thing in the world.

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<v Speaker 4>This is my son. You know, I'm here because of this.

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<v Speaker 3>So I felt that that topic and that thought process

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<v Speaker 3>was one that I felt very strong about. And then

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<v Speaker 3>I had a girlfriend and that happened, and when it happened,

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<v Speaker 3>it affected me. And when it affected me, I wrote

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<v Speaker 3>about it the same way. I wrote she was that

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<v Speaker 3>type of girl. I wrote about it same way. All

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<v Speaker 3>the Way to Heaven I wrote about it same way.

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<v Speaker 3>Nothing is about people smoking crack and things happening in

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<v Speaker 3>the community.

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<v Speaker 4>I wrote about it. Play this only at night was

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<v Speaker 4>the condition that I seen Harlem.

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<v Speaker 3>Harlem was like night of the living bass heads on steroids, bro.

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<v Speaker 4>So I wrote about it.

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<v Speaker 3>So the music was was was explaining what was going on,

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<v Speaker 3>and I didn't I didn't think nobody might get it

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<v Speaker 3>like I got it, But I felt like I.

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<v Speaker 4>Needed to give it to him, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 3>And even with loving every minute, I think that was

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<v Speaker 3>my first introduction to seeing Chuck Brown live at the

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<v Speaker 3>Capital Center. So I was so influenced by that energy.

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<v Speaker 3>I came back and wrote loving every minute of it

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<v Speaker 3>with the Go Go track in it. So I was

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<v Speaker 3>just once again. But see, it goes back to honesty.

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<v Speaker 3>I know that honesty. You know, honesty is not always appreciated,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's not always good, and it's not always good

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<v Speaker 3>when when the timming is off, sometimes it can callt

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<v Speaker 3>I tell people truth out of season can be destructive.

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<v Speaker 4>You know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 3>But then there's a fearlessness in telling truth. So when

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<v Speaker 3>I was putting records together, it was my truth, and

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<v Speaker 3>it was a fearlessness that I felt I'm gonna deal

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<v Speaker 3>with with coming When I would play the records at

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<v Speaker 3>the party or something and they get to that record

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<v Speaker 3>of Bots, I'm like, man, I.

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<v Speaker 4>Know they hate me for this song.

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<v Speaker 3>I know they are, I said, but I said, but

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<v Speaker 3>you know what I said, But yoe, man, this is

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<v Speaker 3>where I'm not with it.

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<v Speaker 4>This is how I feel.

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<v Speaker 5>I appreciate your honesty. And also, you know, sometimes as

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<v Speaker 5>fans we have to allow our artists to evolve, especially

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<v Speaker 5>if they started young. We did it for common so.

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<v Speaker 1>Right right, I mean, back back in eighty five. That

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<v Speaker 1>was the modus operandi. Wait, I have one more show question,

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<v Speaker 1>and again I got it. This the intro to the show. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>was your inspiration behind that? The whiz the gold, yellow Green?

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<v Speaker 4>Absolutely? I knew, absolutely no question.

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<v Speaker 3>And when I did it, I said, I said, I said,

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<v Speaker 3>but I wanted to be better. I said, I want

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<v Speaker 3>to feel that. I said, but I used to love

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<v Speaker 3>when Richard prob Gold is the I changed my gold

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<v Speaker 3>color colored. Now children, when every time you get received right?

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<v Speaker 4>And so after I said, I wanted to be big,

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<v Speaker 4>you know.

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<v Speaker 3>And one of the things that I felt with a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of hip hop songs was they never I always

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<v Speaker 3>felt like and I guess maybe the influence came from

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<v Speaker 3>super rapping, but it was a Friday night everybody like

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<v Speaker 3>I felt like, if a song is coming on, it

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<v Speaker 3>has to make me feel like like you taking.

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<v Speaker 4>Me someplace, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 3>So the show was the first record that I was

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<v Speaker 3>able to get out all of my ideas the way

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<v Speaker 3>I wanted to. And because I went through so many,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, situations with not being able.

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<v Speaker 4>To express my ideas to the fullest, it was.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I'm gonna put up my own money and I'm

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<v Speaker 3>gonna express my ideas my own way, and that horn

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<v Speaker 3>in the beginning was inspired definitely by the waiz Man.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so question, here's the fact that I did not know.

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<v Speaker 1>Because if you're not getting the record, at least in

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen eighty eight, if you're not buying the album, this

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<v Speaker 1>is before the CD generation, causetts really aren't giving you

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<v Speaker 1>liner notes. So I think maybe he revealed this to

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<v Speaker 1>me four years ago. I had no idea that the

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<v Speaker 1>Bomb Squad was kind of the production unit behind your

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<v Speaker 1>second album, World's Greatest Entertainer on two songs.

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<v Speaker 2>Well even there period, and if you look at it,

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<v Speaker 2>keep rising to the top.

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<v Speaker 1>Really isn't when you get squad soundy right because different samples,

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<v Speaker 1>though it is kind of you know.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I mean no, I'm gonna tell you the song

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<v Speaker 3>once again, the same way I acknowledged Seddi Roley, I

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<v Speaker 3>acknowledged the Bomb Squad, and I met Chuck d on

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<v Speaker 3>tour and I would and I would help them with

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<v Speaker 3>the performance when Public Enemy was performing, because they was

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<v Speaker 3>opening up for us, so I would help him with

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<v Speaker 3>his performance. I would say, Yo, you gotta let the

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<v Speaker 3>s one w's move. You gotta get you in flavored.

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<v Speaker 3>I to exchange the energy. So we started. He was

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<v Speaker 3>just listening to me and he would try it out,

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<v Speaker 3>and I said, Griff could do this part. And I

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<v Speaker 3>was sitting there and we'd come together. And then he

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<v Speaker 3>started telling me how he was a part of this

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<v Speaker 3>bomb squad and he said, Yo, you should get with

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<v Speaker 3>us and talk with us a little bit.

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<v Speaker 4>I said, I got this.

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<v Speaker 3>Joint that I want to do, man, and it's I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know, it's in hip hop. Nobody's ever really done

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<v Speaker 3>a joint like this. I said, but I think it's

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<v Speaker 3>going to take it to another place. And he said,

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<v Speaker 3>all right, well.

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<v Speaker 4>Why did you hook up with us? So I came

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<v Speaker 4>to him.

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<v Speaker 3>I came to Hank Shockley with rising to the top,

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<v Speaker 3>and then I said, let me hear some drum sounds

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<v Speaker 3>the same way I did at Teddy's house.

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<v Speaker 4>So I banged out the beat.

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<v Speaker 3>So I took the samp and he had all the

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<v Speaker 3>right stock sounds because their sounds was incredible. And then

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<v Speaker 3>Eric Sidler, when I was I said, I said, I

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<v Speaker 3>wanted to hear.

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<v Speaker 4>To Doom to Doom to Doom to Doom right right

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<v Speaker 4>and I wanted that kind of.

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<v Speaker 3>Feeling that that I honestly got to say, I got

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<v Speaker 3>inspired by when I heard Nobody Beat the Biz.

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<v Speaker 4>When I heard.

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<v Speaker 3>Thoomommom Tom Tom Tomy that came on.

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<v Speaker 4>That was crazy. That was crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>And then I said, I want to put chords at

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<v Speaker 3>the end of it. And then I remember everybody was

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<v Speaker 3>laughing at me in the studio.

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<v Speaker 4>They said, Yo, people are gonna be coming.

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<v Speaker 3>Out with their smoking jackets. Yo.

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<v Speaker 2>Rising to the Top is the first.

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<v Speaker 6>That's the first forty five that I bought, like with

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<v Speaker 6>my own money for myself, I think.

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<v Speaker 4>So.

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<v Speaker 2>My grandmother took me to the record store.

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<v Speaker 6>I bought Tougher than Leather and the Rising to the

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<v Speaker 6>Top forty five, and I ended up because on the

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<v Speaker 6>forty five it was Rising to the Top was on

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<v Speaker 6>the A and then on the other side it was

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<v Speaker 6>the instrumental. Right, And so I without doing I'll just

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<v Speaker 6>say I listened to Rising to the Top way more

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<v Speaker 6>than I.

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<v Speaker 4>Listened to.

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<v Speaker 2>That is. I love that song, man, I love that record.

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<v Speaker 5>Why do I The first time I seen like Dougie,

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<v Speaker 5>do your dance to that song? Right?

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<v Speaker 4>That's yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Look, that's when I introduced that's but because I because

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<v Speaker 3>I came up with the Dougie and I didn't call

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<v Speaker 3>it that. I was just doing it right, and he

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<v Speaker 3>was I was just doing Douggie. And then that was

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<v Speaker 3>the introduction to the dance that turned into a whole

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<v Speaker 3>nother situation which I can't even I mean out of the.

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<v Speaker 2>Field even had the White House. I'm cool to see

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<v Speaker 2>that dance get to the White House.

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<v Speaker 4>Yo. Let me tell you quest.

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<v Speaker 3>I was up there taking a picture with the first

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<v Speaker 3>Lady and I said, very nice to meet you, first Lady.

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<v Speaker 4>She said, I just want to ask you one question.

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<v Speaker 4>Am I doing the Dougie?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes? Because yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I said, I said,

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<v Speaker 3>I said, I never seen it done better.

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<v Speaker 4>I never seen it done better.

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<v Speaker 5>And you want to go, You've been to the White

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<v Speaker 5>House a few times doing that doing that that era

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<v Speaker 5>because I feel like a White House doing Easter. And

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<v Speaker 5>I saw Dougie Fresh walking out like I live here.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm right right right because I was doing I got

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<v Speaker 3>this foundation called Hip Hop Public Health, so we was

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<v Speaker 3>performing and and and then I did the song for

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<v Speaker 3>Michelle Obama Let's Move the whole campaign, So I did

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<v Speaker 3>the theme song for that, and that our Organization team

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<v Speaker 3>in with him for we did. We started fighting childhood

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<v Speaker 3>o B City high blood fresher seeing the symptoms of

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<v Speaker 3>when a person has a stroke. And we've been doing

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<v Speaker 3>this work for the past thirteen to fifteen years, like

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<v Speaker 3>teaching people how to eat, you know, trying to give

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<v Speaker 3>them some kind of understanding of you know, watching what

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<v Speaker 3>you eat and the effects of it. You if you're

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<v Speaker 3>eating stuff that's not right. So you know, Michelle Obama

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<v Speaker 3>when she said she was going to do it, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>I said, where do I sign up?

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<v Speaker 4>And then I just started to do the song.

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<v Speaker 3>So you know that's what it's all about, you know

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<v Speaker 3>what I mean.

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<v Speaker 5>That made me think when you said you was talking

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<v Speaker 5>to Biz about his health, you was really talking to

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<v Speaker 5>Biz about his health.

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<v Speaker 3>I went hard on him, meaning just not not hard

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<v Speaker 3>in a bad way, but I kept telling them, you know, Biz, yo,

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<v Speaker 3>we got to make sure that you know, you watch

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<v Speaker 3>what you eat, and you know, these starches turn the

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<v Speaker 3>sugar and sugar turns the fact if you get diabetes,

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<v Speaker 3>it's gonna be tough. And I say, you know, and

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<v Speaker 3>I would take him out and he would be DJing

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<v Speaker 3>sometime and he would be right. He would almost pass

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<v Speaker 3>out on the set and we would have to catch him,

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<v Speaker 3>and then I'd be like, bizz, you gotta stop this,

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<v Speaker 3>you gotta get And then he started getting controlled and

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<v Speaker 3>I posted something where he lost on stage. He lost

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<v Speaker 3>like seventy five eighty pounds, and then after he did that,

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<v Speaker 3>I was.

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<v Speaker 4>Like, yeah, non, now this is what I'm talking about.

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<v Speaker 3>And then when the pandemic happened and he sat home

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<v Speaker 3>for a while, you know, like most people, they sat

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<v Speaker 3>home and they just started to you know, snack here

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<v Speaker 3>not then soil he wasn't paying attention right, And then

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<v Speaker 3>what he did is he caught a diabetic stroke. He

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<v Speaker 3>caught a seizure, and he got a diabetic stroke. And

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<v Speaker 3>then when he went to the hospital when he had

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<v Speaker 3>the stroke, you know, his stroke is the number one

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<v Speaker 3>disabilitating disease in the world. So he wasn't able to

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<v Speaker 3>talk or he wasn't able to to move, like he

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<v Speaker 3>couldn't move. So we kept trying to send them flyers.

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<v Speaker 3>I would get on there, telling them jokes. Me and

0:20:07.560 --> 0:20:10.119
<v Speaker 3>his wife would be up there snapping with him and

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<v Speaker 3>doing the things that we normally would do to pull

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<v Speaker 3>him out of it. And then he would show signs

0:20:14.520 --> 0:20:16.800
<v Speaker 3>that he's coming out of it, and then there would

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<v Speaker 3>be times when he goes down.

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<v Speaker 4>And and it really bothered me. Man.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know, I'm hoping that what happened to him

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<v Speaker 3>is making everybody aware of it can happen to any

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<v Speaker 3>one of us, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 4>And everybody loved this. This was such a bright spirit,

0:20:40.080 --> 0:20:42.000
<v Speaker 4>right personality, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>So to see him leave at such a you know,

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<v Speaker 3>a young age, it bothered me.

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<v Speaker 5>That's why I'm glad that these two brothers on this show,

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<v Speaker 5>they talk about health all the time and they held

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<v Speaker 5>help each other accountable.

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<v Speaker 3>So I love it. You love it.

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<v Speaker 4>I love it.

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<v Speaker 3>When I heard y'all talk, and I was loving it, bro,

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<v Speaker 3>I was loving on some real conversation.

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<v Speaker 4>I know it's about me, but it's really about y'all.

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<v Speaker 4>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>I was loving it, and I like. I like how

0:21:08.520 --> 0:21:12.159
<v Speaker 3>y'all are supporting each other, because that's where we go wrong.

0:21:12.720 --> 0:21:14.160
<v Speaker 4>We believe, we believe.

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<v Speaker 3>That we got to go through this by ourselves.

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<v Speaker 4>And we don't. We don't.

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<v Speaker 3>Sometimes sometimes you need your man to check you a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit or you know, or challenge you and turn

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<v Speaker 3>it into a game so it's not so so serious,

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<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean? And you know and looking

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<v Speaker 3>sometimes even if you fall off on something, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>if you got a good team of people around you,

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<v Speaker 3>you can.

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<v Speaker 4>Get yourself back on it.

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<v Speaker 3>But I just think that diabetes is such a bizarre

0:21:44.000 --> 0:21:49.440
<v Speaker 3>disease because you don't really realize when your sugar's up

0:21:49.680 --> 0:21:52.080
<v Speaker 3>and you're not checking it, and your sugar could be

0:21:52.119 --> 0:21:56.000
<v Speaker 3>an eight hundred and you walking around feeling good and

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<v Speaker 3>out of nowhere.

0:21:57.000 --> 0:21:58.880
<v Speaker 4>Bull it takes you out.

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<v Speaker 2>Where's your number one?

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<v Speaker 5>What's your number? With your number?

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<v Speaker 3>Steve?

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<v Speaker 5>See he see what? You don't know why you have

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<v Speaker 5>this conversation. We got somebody in our collective that has

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<v Speaker 5>sugar issues. And I'm just saying.

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<v Speaker 4>The two black ones.

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<v Speaker 2>That one surprisingly nah. But Doug, you are the You're

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<v Speaker 2>the poster boy for like agent and hip hop.

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<v Speaker 6>Like you are, I mean, like yo man, like just

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<v Speaker 6>watching you over the years and just watching the way

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<v Speaker 6>you've taken care of yourself and the wave it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah man.

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<v Speaker 6>The regimen or something like what's your what's your diet? Like,

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<v Speaker 6>what what's like what's your day to day?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, my day to day is I usually try to

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<v Speaker 3>run and then and then I got this program where

0:22:50.920 --> 0:22:53.520
<v Speaker 3>I run and then I may walk because a lot

0:22:53.520 --> 0:22:55.320
<v Speaker 3>of people want to estimate walking.

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<v Speaker 4>See this is the problem.

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<v Speaker 2>How here you go?

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<v Speaker 3>Walking is and it's a fascinating exercise because it actually

0:23:06.119 --> 0:23:09.640
<v Speaker 3>gives you time to think things through and when you're

0:23:09.680 --> 0:23:12.679
<v Speaker 3>looking at them, you know, you start.

0:23:12.480 --> 0:23:15.760
<v Speaker 4>To figure out different things. If you're listening to music.

0:23:15.560 --> 0:23:16.960
<v Speaker 3>Or whatever way you want to do it, if you're

0:23:16.960 --> 0:23:19.520
<v Speaker 3>walking with a friend, you'll be surprised how much you

0:23:19.600 --> 0:23:23.680
<v Speaker 3>burn it. So what I do is I walk, I run,

0:23:24.000 --> 0:23:27.160
<v Speaker 3>I ride the bike, and I do a lot of

0:23:27.800 --> 0:23:31.520
<v Speaker 3>making sure I'm not letting nobody stress me out. And

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<v Speaker 3>I think we got lost with that one. I think

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<v Speaker 3>that's the one that everybody's failing on, or a lot

0:23:36.880 --> 0:23:40.520
<v Speaker 3>of people because we so goal oriented that we want

0:23:40.560 --> 0:23:43.680
<v Speaker 3>to be the best, We want this to be the greatest,

0:23:43.920 --> 0:23:46.439
<v Speaker 3>we want this, we want that that we start to

0:23:46.480 --> 0:23:50.920
<v Speaker 3>put our health behind us instead of keeping it as

0:23:51.040 --> 0:23:53.960
<v Speaker 3>number one. And then when you look at health, it

0:23:54.040 --> 0:23:56.520
<v Speaker 3>should be in this order. This is my order, and

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<v Speaker 3>I study this order. Number one is rest sleep. If

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<v Speaker 3>you don't get that you're done, you can't operate, You

0:24:06.200 --> 0:24:10.919
<v Speaker 3>make mistakes, you talk crazy, you short fuse everything. It

0:24:11.000 --> 0:24:13.359
<v Speaker 3>just turns into something else when you don't get no rest.

0:24:13.800 --> 0:24:18.120
<v Speaker 3>Number two is your nutrition. You gotta eat to live,

0:24:18.440 --> 0:24:21.600
<v Speaker 3>not live to eat. You gotta think about what you eat.

0:24:21.640 --> 0:24:24.680
<v Speaker 3>And if you got sugar, you gotta check that sugar.

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<v Speaker 3>You have to so that you can gauge your numbers.

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<v Speaker 4>If you like something.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a a starch, ain't saying you can't have it,

0:24:33.520 --> 0:24:34.800
<v Speaker 3>but maybe you gotta earn it.

0:24:35.440 --> 0:24:37.760
<v Speaker 4>Maybe you gotta maybe, maybe you gotta earn that.

0:24:38.359 --> 0:24:41.600
<v Speaker 3>Let's earn it, let's run it right, and then when

0:24:41.640 --> 0:24:44.080
<v Speaker 3>you do it, maybe maybe you earned half of that.

0:24:44.760 --> 0:24:46.800
<v Speaker 3>You know, if that's if that's a game you want

0:24:46.800 --> 0:24:50.480
<v Speaker 3>to play. But you can't just have that starch. Don't walk,

0:24:50.760 --> 0:24:55.600
<v Speaker 3>don't run, be up all night and then drink sweet juices,

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<v Speaker 3>or be you setting yourself up for something that you

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<v Speaker 3>I have no idea. It's crazy. And then the third one,

0:25:03.800 --> 0:25:06.520
<v Speaker 3>it's some exercise. But the exercise don't have to be

0:25:07.040 --> 0:25:09.720
<v Speaker 3>that you're working out like you trying to be, you.

0:25:09.680 --> 0:25:12.720
<v Speaker 4>Know, a football player. You know what I'm saying. It

0:25:12.760 --> 0:25:15.640
<v Speaker 4>don't have to be that crazy. If you're walking, you're

0:25:15.640 --> 0:25:18.800
<v Speaker 4>getting on a treadmill. You want to walk in your body,

0:25:19.560 --> 0:25:21.080
<v Speaker 4>that's it that's it.

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<v Speaker 3>And then after you do it and you start seeing

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<v Speaker 3>how you feel, you're going to be happy to do

0:25:26.880 --> 0:25:30.280
<v Speaker 3>it because it's making you happy. And then while you're

0:25:30.320 --> 0:25:34.120
<v Speaker 3>doing that, you rest, You're energetic. You know, you got

0:25:34.119 --> 0:25:37.159
<v Speaker 3>eight hours sleep or seven hours whatever you need, and

0:25:37.200 --> 0:25:39.919
<v Speaker 3>then you ate something that gave you a nice amount

0:25:39.960 --> 0:25:42.159
<v Speaker 3>of energy, and then you go out there.

0:25:42.000 --> 0:25:42.600
<v Speaker 4>And work out.

0:25:43.080 --> 0:25:45.400
<v Speaker 3>Yo, you did all of the things that you could

0:25:45.440 --> 0:25:49.400
<v Speaker 3>do to survive on this planet a little bit more.

0:25:49.480 --> 0:25:51.240
<v Speaker 4>But if you just be reckless.

0:25:53.040 --> 0:25:59.359
<v Speaker 1>Slight confession time, slight confession. I love it, No, definitely.

0:26:00.400 --> 0:26:05.760
<v Speaker 1>I When it got colder, you know, well, okay, so

0:26:05.760 --> 0:26:06.280
<v Speaker 1>so the deal.

0:26:06.440 --> 0:26:09.640
<v Speaker 2>The deal is basically getting dark at four o'clock.

0:26:09.880 --> 0:26:10.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:26:10.200 --> 0:26:12.560
<v Speaker 1>When Rick Ruven was on the show, he made me

0:26:13.480 --> 0:26:17.280
<v Speaker 1>he was my accountability partner, and you know, I was

0:26:17.320 --> 0:26:20.720
<v Speaker 1>doing like ten thousand steps a day every day, and

0:26:20.760 --> 0:26:24.200
<v Speaker 1>then around mid September I started falling off. Now, when

0:26:24.240 --> 0:26:26.879
<v Speaker 1>I hear something five, when I hear from five different

0:26:26.920 --> 0:26:30.320
<v Speaker 1>sources the same message, then I'm like, all right, man,

0:26:30.359 --> 0:26:33.119
<v Speaker 1>you gotta get so you're officially it started this morning

0:26:33.160 --> 0:26:33.480
<v Speaker 1>with my.

0:26:33.440 --> 0:26:37.080
<v Speaker 2>Mom, Are you walking like you to me?

0:26:37.200 --> 0:26:38.040
<v Speaker 4>Are you lying to me?

0:26:39.760 --> 0:26:40.119
<v Speaker 3>Grace?

0:26:40.760 --> 0:26:46.680
<v Speaker 1>Same thing like literally four people got on me about okay, now,

0:26:46.960 --> 0:26:50.240
<v Speaker 1>like how you doing. You're still sticking to your plan

0:26:50.400 --> 0:26:52.320
<v Speaker 1>or you you've fallen off a little bit in the

0:26:52.359 --> 0:26:55.240
<v Speaker 1>in the winter, And I was like, you know, I'll

0:26:55.240 --> 0:26:59.080
<v Speaker 1>get back on it next week, all right, cool, I

0:26:59.160 --> 0:27:02.000
<v Speaker 1>gotta get back my ten thousand steps a day join

0:27:02.080 --> 0:27:05.199
<v Speaker 1>because I felt I went from ten thousand util like

0:27:05.480 --> 0:27:07.639
<v Speaker 1>four thousand school. I'll just do like ten blocks and

0:27:07.720 --> 0:27:10.919
<v Speaker 1>walk back home. So right, I gotta get back on

0:27:10.920 --> 0:27:11.359
<v Speaker 1>my join.

0:27:12.000 --> 0:27:12.240
<v Speaker 4>See.

0:27:12.240 --> 0:27:15.240
<v Speaker 3>And that's how the Creator work because all of us

0:27:15.320 --> 0:27:16.640
<v Speaker 3>are saying things to you.

0:27:17.080 --> 0:27:20.200
<v Speaker 4>And I always say this now too, don't get caught

0:27:20.240 --> 0:27:21.280
<v Speaker 4>up in the messenger.

0:27:22.520 --> 0:27:26.239
<v Speaker 3>Just hear the message message because you may not you

0:27:26.520 --> 0:27:29.440
<v Speaker 3>if you get caught up in the messenger, you may

0:27:29.480 --> 0:27:32.440
<v Speaker 3>not hear that message. And that message can be coming

0:27:32.440 --> 0:27:34.960
<v Speaker 3>from a little baby, It could be coming from a mother.

0:27:35.240 --> 0:27:37.240
<v Speaker 3>It can be coming from a person that you don't like,

0:27:37.560 --> 0:27:40.280
<v Speaker 3>but they said something that was really important for you

0:27:40.320 --> 0:27:43.960
<v Speaker 3>to hear. If you got five different people. Sometimes and

0:27:44.040 --> 0:27:45.240
<v Speaker 3>we get caught up on how to.

0:27:45.240 --> 0:27:46.480
<v Speaker 4>Create this community.

0:27:46.359 --> 0:27:49.639
<v Speaker 3>The Creator communicates through us and he says things to

0:27:49.760 --> 0:27:53.959
<v Speaker 3>us to say to somebody that maybe if that person

0:27:54.040 --> 0:27:57.800
<v Speaker 3>can bypass who's the person saying it and just hear

0:27:58.320 --> 0:28:02.040
<v Speaker 3>the message. A lot can come out of that, because

0:28:02.080 --> 0:28:05.800
<v Speaker 3>what's the odds of me having this conversation with y'all

0:28:06.320 --> 0:28:11.000
<v Speaker 3>right now on this and it has nothing to do

0:28:11.720 --> 0:28:13.960
<v Speaker 3>for what we're talking about. You see what I'm saying,

0:28:14.080 --> 0:28:17.800
<v Speaker 3>But it has everything to do for what we're talking about.

0:28:18.119 --> 0:28:21.880
<v Speaker 3>The brother on here with diabetes, or me talking about

0:28:22.080 --> 0:28:26.040
<v Speaker 3>how I've seen it with biz, or you watch so

0:28:26.240 --> 0:28:30.119
<v Speaker 3>many of us, so many of us lose ourselves or

0:28:30.640 --> 0:28:33.320
<v Speaker 3>pass away transition just.

0:28:33.200 --> 0:28:36.720
<v Speaker 4>Because we don't make little, minor adjustments. It don't have

0:28:36.840 --> 0:28:39.960
<v Speaker 4>to be extreme. It's like I always.

0:28:39.600 --> 0:28:42.920
<v Speaker 3>Say, if if a person does a little, they don't

0:28:42.920 --> 0:28:44.600
<v Speaker 3>even have to really do a lot. But if you

0:28:44.720 --> 0:28:49.040
<v Speaker 3>just stay consistent at it and if you just keep this, yeah, man,

0:28:49.520 --> 0:28:51.960
<v Speaker 3>like nobody ain't trying to make you. I'm not trying

0:28:51.960 --> 0:28:54.800
<v Speaker 3>to make you work out to where you know you

0:28:55.360 --> 0:28:56.360
<v Speaker 3>pass out.

0:28:56.600 --> 0:29:00.960
<v Speaker 4>But you know you know you got it ass your ass.

0:29:01.120 --> 0:29:03.600
<v Speaker 4>You gotta move it. You gotta move it, man.

0:29:05.400 --> 0:29:07.320
<v Speaker 1>I do want to get key parts of your career

0:29:07.360 --> 0:29:09.320
<v Speaker 1>out before we run out of time, which.

0:29:10.920 --> 0:29:14.080
<v Speaker 2>We gotta talk about. There's a lot we gotta talk about.

0:29:14.280 --> 0:29:16.880
<v Speaker 1>Wait, wait, wait, the Hammer, We're gonna do Yeah, I

0:29:16.920 --> 0:29:19.080
<v Speaker 1>was gonna say, we gotta talk about do what I

0:29:19.160 --> 0:29:19.680
<v Speaker 1>Gotta do?

0:29:20.360 --> 0:29:24.360
<v Speaker 4>Right right right? Well all right then yeah, yeah we're

0:29:24.360 --> 0:29:26.400
<v Speaker 4>gon We're going to We're going to it.

0:29:27.560 --> 0:29:28.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, what was it?

0:29:28.520 --> 0:29:33.680
<v Speaker 1>What was the decision behind like what the key give

0:29:33.760 --> 0:29:37.160
<v Speaker 1>us the atmosphere or or or or what it was

0:29:37.320 --> 0:29:42.800
<v Speaker 1>like under the umbrella of Busted Productions with Hammer Beautiful

0:29:43.160 --> 0:29:46.080
<v Speaker 1>doing what I Gotta Do great really should have been

0:29:46.080 --> 0:29:47.120
<v Speaker 1>way bigger for you.

0:29:47.160 --> 0:29:51.000
<v Speaker 4>But yeah, well another great lesson what happened with that

0:29:51.120 --> 0:29:55.040
<v Speaker 4>project is I felt that when I came out with

0:29:55.120 --> 0:29:58.719
<v Speaker 4>World's Greatest Entertainer, I felt really good about my album.

0:29:59.200 --> 0:30:01.800
<v Speaker 4>I felt that that album was made in a way

0:30:01.840 --> 0:30:06.360
<v Speaker 4>where I was trying to show people different dimensions about,

0:30:06.720 --> 0:30:08.880
<v Speaker 4>you know, my growth and about hip hop. Like when

0:30:08.920 --> 0:30:11.680
<v Speaker 4>I did Africa, and when I went to Africa in

0:30:11.760 --> 0:30:14.800
<v Speaker 4>eighty seven, hip hop wasn't in Africa. I was the

0:30:14.800 --> 0:30:17.160
<v Speaker 4>first dude to run over there, you know what I mean.

0:30:17.200 --> 0:30:20.880
<v Speaker 4>I was in Senegal, the car, Gambia, Gory Island. I

0:30:20.920 --> 0:30:24.240
<v Speaker 4>wrote the song over there. Yeah that's what Africa. That

0:30:24.440 --> 0:30:28.960
<v Speaker 4>last song on World's Greatest Entertainer called Africa. Heavyd used

0:30:28.960 --> 0:30:31.360
<v Speaker 4>to love that song, and Rod Kim loved that song.

0:30:31.680 --> 0:30:34.360
<v Speaker 3>But what happened is that I felt that the label

0:30:35.320 --> 0:30:38.240
<v Speaker 3>really at that point didn't get my vision when I

0:30:38.320 --> 0:30:41.720
<v Speaker 3>first started with him, and the thing happened with me

0:30:41.760 --> 0:30:44.200
<v Speaker 3>and Rick, I think it took some steam out of

0:30:44.280 --> 0:30:47.280
<v Speaker 3>him and he started trying to figure it out. But

0:30:47.400 --> 0:30:50.040
<v Speaker 3>Rizzo to the top of such a great record, cut

0:30:50.080 --> 0:30:52.240
<v Speaker 3>that zero. I felt on this Trump could have done

0:30:52.280 --> 0:30:55.400
<v Speaker 3>a lot better. I think people slept on that. A

0:30:55.440 --> 0:30:57.080
<v Speaker 3>lot of people liked to guess, So it was a

0:30:57.080 --> 0:30:59.920
<v Speaker 3>lot of different things that I didn't feel my label God,

0:31:00.400 --> 0:31:03.400
<v Speaker 3>which I think a lot of us felt at points

0:31:03.440 --> 0:31:08.520
<v Speaker 3>in our career. So I signed with Dick Scott Management,

0:31:09.200 --> 0:31:12.960
<v Speaker 3>who was managing New Kids on the Block, and he

0:31:13.600 --> 0:31:16.640
<v Speaker 3>would fund me to go to the studio and make

0:31:16.720 --> 0:31:20.200
<v Speaker 3>some records. And while I was doing that, Hammer and

0:31:20.200 --> 0:31:23.640
<v Speaker 3>his brother heard I was no longer I was looking

0:31:23.680 --> 0:31:27.960
<v Speaker 3>to get out of Reality Records. So, long story short,

0:31:28.280 --> 0:31:32.280
<v Speaker 3>I got with his brother, Louis Barrell. Lewis didn't know

0:31:32.360 --> 0:31:35.680
<v Speaker 3>that reggae was coming. I was telling him, I said, Yo,

0:31:35.880 --> 0:31:39.200
<v Speaker 3>reggae is on fire, bro, But he was feeling like

0:31:39.520 --> 0:31:41.880
<v Speaker 3>that don't mean nothing, because I'm getting this. You can't

0:31:41.920 --> 0:31:45.480
<v Speaker 3>touch you know, can't touch this money. And Hammer's in

0:31:45.520 --> 0:31:49.360
<v Speaker 3>the stratosphere, and so there was a beef between the

0:31:49.400 --> 0:31:52.520
<v Speaker 3>East and the West Coast. So I felt that if

0:31:52.600 --> 0:31:56.200
<v Speaker 3>me and Hammer got together and I was able to

0:31:56.200 --> 0:31:58.920
<v Speaker 3>bring what I bring to the table and he keeps

0:31:58.920 --> 0:32:04.800
<v Speaker 3>doing his thing, this would show a union between us

0:32:04.920 --> 0:32:07.320
<v Speaker 3>where this beef between East and West.

0:32:07.160 --> 0:32:10.960
<v Speaker 4>Coast wouldn't even really be there. Because Tim Dogg was making.

0:32:11.320 --> 0:32:15.520
<v Speaker 2>You know, al We's album was.

0:32:16.000 --> 0:32:17.760
<v Speaker 4>Right right, and I wasn't about that.

0:32:18.080 --> 0:32:20.600
<v Speaker 3>So they paid close to maybe like one point two

0:32:20.680 --> 0:32:22.720
<v Speaker 3>one point three to get me out of the deal.

0:32:23.400 --> 0:32:25.880
<v Speaker 3>So when they got me out of the deal, they say, yo,

0:32:25.960 --> 0:32:27.760
<v Speaker 3>I just want to be able to put at least

0:32:27.800 --> 0:32:31.080
<v Speaker 3>one or two songs on the album. And I said, okay,

0:32:31.160 --> 0:32:33.800
<v Speaker 3>no problem, and they said I was telling them reggae.

0:32:33.840 --> 0:32:35.160
<v Speaker 4>So we was up there working it out.

0:32:35.400 --> 0:32:37.760
<v Speaker 3>And what happened is I went to Jamaica and I

0:32:37.800 --> 0:32:40.640
<v Speaker 3>went to go do sun Splash and I was doing

0:32:40.760 --> 0:32:42.920
<v Speaker 3>dance all night. I don't know if y'all know about

0:32:43.120 --> 0:32:48.680
<v Speaker 3>sun Splash. Yeah, I forgot him on it right right.

0:32:48.920 --> 0:32:50.640
<v Speaker 4>So I'm so I'm like.

0:32:50.600 --> 0:32:54.320
<v Speaker 3>The first guy to ever perform on dance tall night

0:32:55.600 --> 0:32:57.640
<v Speaker 3>in Jamaica, which was unheard of.

0:32:58.120 --> 0:32:59.520
<v Speaker 2>You might want you retimidated.

0:33:00.600 --> 0:33:05.640
<v Speaker 3>No, no, look that audience is tough, yo, that audience

0:33:05.720 --> 0:33:07.080
<v Speaker 3>is tougher than Apollo.

0:33:07.520 --> 0:33:10.440
<v Speaker 2>It's how did you again? I know your whole no

0:33:10.560 --> 0:33:13.200
<v Speaker 2>fear thing, but yeah, yeah, well.

0:33:14.080 --> 0:33:16.600
<v Speaker 4>I felt I felt like I felt my.

0:33:16.800 --> 0:33:21.880
<v Speaker 3>Energy was stronger than theirs. And then I also had

0:33:21.920 --> 0:33:25.560
<v Speaker 3>Papa Son who we was doing records together. I mean no,

0:33:25.640 --> 0:33:28.800
<v Speaker 3>we was performing together. So when I'm performing with him

0:33:29.120 --> 0:33:32.400
<v Speaker 3>on dance hall, and then the other thing is sometimes

0:33:32.520 --> 0:33:36.719
<v Speaker 3>less is more and more is less, you know, because

0:33:36.720 --> 0:33:39.720
<v Speaker 3>sometimes you're doing too much. So I felt like if

0:33:39.760 --> 0:33:42.800
<v Speaker 3>I give them little samples of what I do, it'll

0:33:42.840 --> 0:33:45.160
<v Speaker 3>make them appreciate it more than me trying to give

0:33:45.200 --> 0:33:47.440
<v Speaker 3>them a whole concert.

0:33:48.240 --> 0:33:48.920
<v Speaker 4>So I got on.

0:33:49.520 --> 0:33:54.360
<v Speaker 3>They accepted it, blew up, but bloke gunshots all night.

0:33:55.160 --> 0:33:57.920
<v Speaker 3>After that was over, I got back on the plane

0:33:57.960 --> 0:33:59.920
<v Speaker 3>and came back and I was doing something at how

0:34:00.800 --> 0:34:04.320
<v Speaker 3>And when I got back, Hammer's boy edited the video,

0:34:05.040 --> 0:34:07.440
<v Speaker 3>did all of these different things with it. And then

0:34:07.520 --> 0:34:09.520
<v Speaker 3>when he did it, it was the same guy that

0:34:10.320 --> 0:34:13.600
<v Speaker 3>edit Hammer's video. So when he let the song out,

0:34:14.200 --> 0:34:16.960
<v Speaker 3>a lot of people was looking at the marching band

0:34:17.360 --> 0:34:19.359
<v Speaker 3>and all of it at the Battle of the Band thing,

0:34:19.480 --> 0:34:22.040
<v Speaker 3>and they thought that it was like we was trying

0:34:22.040 --> 0:34:23.280
<v Speaker 3>to make a hammer video.

0:34:23.719 --> 0:34:25.440
<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, you see.

0:34:25.239 --> 0:34:25.880
<v Speaker 4>What I'm saying.

0:34:26.160 --> 0:34:31.759
<v Speaker 3>So I said, it's the true story too. I said, yo, bro,

0:34:32.360 --> 0:34:35.040
<v Speaker 3>why did you edit the video and let it out

0:34:35.239 --> 0:34:39.560
<v Speaker 3>without me being able to look at the video acknowledge

0:34:39.600 --> 0:34:42.680
<v Speaker 3>what it is because I read alert in there, Curtis

0:34:42.680 --> 0:34:43.399
<v Speaker 3>blowing there.

0:34:43.680 --> 0:34:46.239
<v Speaker 4>They cut all of the different elements that would give

0:34:46.280 --> 0:34:50.359
<v Speaker 4>it the authenticity of the East Coast and showing that love.

0:34:50.840 --> 0:34:52.560
<v Speaker 3>And then when they say they said, man, yo, we

0:34:52.560 --> 0:34:55.800
<v Speaker 3>was just doing so I felt like the respect factor

0:34:56.000 --> 0:34:59.399
<v Speaker 3>was not as high as my respect was for him

0:34:59.400 --> 0:35:01.240
<v Speaker 3>because I guess he was trying to go in there.

0:35:01.200 --> 0:35:02.280
<v Speaker 4>Right when it dropped.

0:35:02.840 --> 0:35:08.200
<v Speaker 3>Capital dropped him and the label went bankrupt, so the

0:35:08.360 --> 0:35:14.520
<v Speaker 3>album never came out. So that album never came out.

0:35:14.880 --> 0:35:18.400
<v Speaker 3>The single was coming out, and I'm thinking now as.

0:35:18.239 --> 0:35:20.080
<v Speaker 2>I'm doing what I got to do album.

0:35:21.120 --> 0:35:22.400
<v Speaker 4>And it never can't.

0:35:22.440 --> 0:35:26.000
<v Speaker 3>It can't Like Capitol was letting it out and then

0:35:26.040 --> 0:35:32.120
<v Speaker 3>they shut everything down because yeah, you got the album.

0:35:33.040 --> 0:35:35.480
<v Speaker 6>I had to tape. Uh this was this was my

0:35:35.560 --> 0:35:37.640
<v Speaker 6>stepdad before he passed. Yeah, he had to tape because

0:35:37.680 --> 0:35:40.000
<v Speaker 6>my joint on there. I used to rhun was the

0:35:40.080 --> 0:35:43.080
<v Speaker 6>if I was your man joint because you was curious. Yeah,

0:35:43.160 --> 0:35:45.560
<v Speaker 6>so you know what I mean? That was my record.

0:35:47.520 --> 0:35:50.000
<v Speaker 6>But uh yeah, man, no that record it came out

0:35:50.200 --> 0:35:50.960
<v Speaker 6>like you know.

0:35:52.360 --> 0:35:55.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but I'm I'm gonna tell you in regards to

0:35:55.800 --> 0:36:01.200
<v Speaker 3>when Capital Capitol dropped Busted Records and when he dropped

0:36:01.239 --> 0:36:05.719
<v Speaker 3>Busted Records, whatever bust it had or whatever busted on.

0:36:06.760 --> 0:36:13.040
<v Speaker 4>Busted was cut Busted was cut off. Yeah, bust it

0:36:13.080 --> 0:36:15.520
<v Speaker 4>was busting. And so then I left and.

0:36:15.520 --> 0:36:19.040
<v Speaker 3>When I and when I left, I had to you know,

0:36:19.120 --> 0:36:22.840
<v Speaker 3>I had to rebuild the credibility because people was feeling

0:36:22.880 --> 0:36:26.080
<v Speaker 3>like I was trying to sell out. So that wasn't

0:36:26.080 --> 0:36:31.360
<v Speaker 3>a problem for me because I built my career before record.

0:36:31.440 --> 0:36:34.200
<v Speaker 3>So I went back in the street and started to

0:36:34.280 --> 0:36:36.799
<v Speaker 3>kind of see what was going on. I seen PM doing,

0:36:37.320 --> 0:36:39.600
<v Speaker 3>PM Doing was hanging out at the club. We were

0:36:39.640 --> 0:36:42.160
<v Speaker 3>both going to see Prince, so we went to see

0:36:42.400 --> 0:36:44.920
<v Speaker 3>I seen him on my way out. It's funny, I

0:36:44.920 --> 0:36:48.040
<v Speaker 3>didn't even think about this. I was seeing him walking out.

0:36:48.239 --> 0:36:50.680
<v Speaker 3>He said, dumb yo, Man, I love yourself. You're doing

0:36:50.719 --> 0:36:51.400
<v Speaker 3>anything else?

0:36:51.680 --> 0:36:53.520
<v Speaker 4>I said, yeah, man, I'm getting ready to come.

0:36:53.600 --> 0:36:56.359
<v Speaker 3>I got some ideas, he said, Yo, man, my label man,

0:36:56.600 --> 0:36:58.839
<v Speaker 3>I think that you know, maybe I should introduce you to.

0:36:58.800 --> 0:37:01.400
<v Speaker 4>This gotch You shrinking right? He said, I think you

0:37:01.480 --> 0:37:03.399
<v Speaker 4>know him. I think you know him. So I said,

0:37:03.400 --> 0:37:05.600
<v Speaker 4>what's his name? He's his name is John? He said, really,

0:37:05.880 --> 0:37:07.120
<v Speaker 4>I said, let me let me see.

0:37:07.000 --> 0:37:07.600
<v Speaker 3>If I know him.

0:37:07.960 --> 0:37:10.920
<v Speaker 4>I went downtown to G Street, right, I'm not. I

0:37:11.000 --> 0:37:12.120
<v Speaker 4>go in there and I walk in.

0:37:13.440 --> 0:37:16.839
<v Speaker 3>This was my tour guy in nineteen eighty five when

0:37:16.840 --> 0:37:20.360
<v Speaker 3>I went overseas for perform to perform.

0:37:20.040 --> 0:37:22.239
<v Speaker 4>The show on Top of the Pops.

0:37:22.600 --> 0:37:26.960
<v Speaker 3>This guy is the guy who took me all through

0:37:27.520 --> 0:37:31.640
<v Speaker 3>London and now he got a deal with Chris Blackwell.

0:37:31.760 --> 0:37:34.360
<v Speaker 3>So then after that I sat there. He said, Dougie,

0:37:34.480 --> 0:37:36.640
<v Speaker 3>I always wanted to do something with you. Do you

0:37:36.719 --> 0:37:40.160
<v Speaker 3>got anything? I said, I got these three ideas, I said,

0:37:40.200 --> 0:37:42.279
<v Speaker 3>and I think I'm ready to let him out as

0:37:42.280 --> 0:37:45.360
<v Speaker 3>soon as possible because I need to make sure that

0:37:45.520 --> 0:37:50.040
<v Speaker 3>people do not misunderstand what happened. So then that's when

0:37:50.040 --> 0:37:54.520
<v Speaker 3>I came up with day right and Free You did Freaks?

0:37:54.719 --> 0:38:01.720
<v Speaker 2>Yes where years old? Like where is he's.

0:38:01.560 --> 0:38:04.080
<v Speaker 4>Still rock with me? He's still rock with me?

0:38:04.680 --> 0:38:08.120
<v Speaker 1>But does he ever, I imagine that he must sound

0:38:08.120 --> 0:38:09.480
<v Speaker 1>like mad lion right now.

0:38:13.920 --> 0:38:18.040
<v Speaker 5>Now that's funny air, but that's true. Though he can't.

0:38:17.920 --> 0:38:20.919
<v Speaker 4>Say no, no, no no. But but he sounds good.

0:38:20.960 --> 0:38:23.600
<v Speaker 3>It sounds like he mature, but it don't sound like

0:38:24.719 --> 0:38:28.120
<v Speaker 3>he sounds really good and he sounds like his energy

0:38:28.200 --> 0:38:29.000
<v Speaker 3>is still the same.

0:38:29.320 --> 0:38:32.279
<v Speaker 4>And when we perform, it's a serious situation.

0:38:32.480 --> 0:38:37.799
<v Speaker 3>But that song, that song, that song right there when

0:38:37.880 --> 0:38:40.480
<v Speaker 3>I when I came back from Jamaica, that's when I

0:38:40.560 --> 0:38:42.320
<v Speaker 3>made that beat because.

0:38:42.080 --> 0:38:44.640
<v Speaker 5>You told you what I'm saying, I feel like reggae

0:38:44.719 --> 0:38:45.240
<v Speaker 5>is coming.

0:38:45.320 --> 0:38:48.560
<v Speaker 4>You told him. I tried to tell him. I swear

0:38:48.600 --> 0:38:50.279
<v Speaker 4>I tried to tell him, you know.

0:38:50.840 --> 0:38:53.680
<v Speaker 3>But look they was living in you know, they had

0:38:53.800 --> 0:38:57.000
<v Speaker 3>I can't touch this money, so they wasn't touching it.

0:38:57.280 --> 0:38:57.759
<v Speaker 3>They wasn't.

0:39:04.320 --> 0:39:07.800
<v Speaker 1>Can you can you talk about your your relationship with

0:39:07.800 --> 0:39:11.319
<v Speaker 1>with with Prince? There is Oh my god, Yeah, you

0:39:11.360 --> 0:39:17.319
<v Speaker 1>did a long apprenticeship. Uh during that time period at

0:39:17.400 --> 0:39:21.160
<v Speaker 1>least three to four the five years, I think almost

0:39:21.239 --> 0:39:23.760
<v Speaker 1>like you know, to see a Prince concert, you knew

0:39:24.719 --> 0:39:26.920
<v Speaker 1>somewhere you were coming, Like so how.

0:39:27.200 --> 0:39:30.799
<v Speaker 4>An apprenticeship quess ques? You know?

0:39:30.960 --> 0:39:31.800
<v Speaker 3>Man?

0:39:32.000 --> 0:39:36.680
<v Speaker 4>With Prince? The only thing that I can honestly say, man,

0:39:37.520 --> 0:39:40.680
<v Speaker 4>I mean this is this, This is is one that

0:39:41.120 --> 0:39:43.200
<v Speaker 4>is a quick one that I think you'll appreciate.

0:39:43.840 --> 0:39:47.120
<v Speaker 3>I was doing. I did something for Sindbad. And by

0:39:47.200 --> 0:39:49.600
<v Speaker 3>the way, I want to acknowledge sinn Mad because you know,

0:39:49.640 --> 0:39:54.239
<v Speaker 3>he had a stroke. So Sindbad I went out. Do

0:39:54.280 --> 0:39:57.080
<v Speaker 3>you remember when he had this thing called so Soul

0:39:57.280 --> 0:40:02.359
<v Speaker 3>Funk and it was on HBO. Yep, yes, okay, So

0:40:02.480 --> 0:40:06.640
<v Speaker 3>Sindbad I went out there to go just to hang out.

0:40:06.719 --> 0:40:09.479
<v Speaker 4>And then he told me, Dougie, Yo, what you doing

0:40:09.480 --> 0:40:10.080
<v Speaker 4>out here? Yo?

0:40:10.120 --> 0:40:12.320
<v Speaker 3>I want you to get on man, could you do something?

0:40:12.360 --> 0:40:14.919
<v Speaker 3>I was like, yo, I just came out here to chill.

0:40:15.000 --> 0:40:17.800
<v Speaker 3>But all right, no problems. And if you know Sinbad,

0:40:18.200 --> 0:40:22.240
<v Speaker 3>his energy is crazy. So it was like, You're going

0:40:22.280 --> 0:40:23.280
<v Speaker 3>to say yes.

0:40:23.200 --> 0:40:24.759
<v Speaker 4>To me no matter what.

0:40:25.640 --> 0:40:28.160
<v Speaker 3>So now I'm in a Ruba trying to find a

0:40:28.280 --> 0:40:30.960
<v Speaker 3>studio because I'm thinking, damn, I need to get something,

0:40:30.960 --> 0:40:32.879
<v Speaker 3>and I'm looking at a CD that got that got

0:40:32.880 --> 0:40:35.040
<v Speaker 3>got to be real on there, I say, yo, man,

0:40:35.080 --> 0:40:37.640
<v Speaker 3>let me let me sample this. Pressing it out on

0:40:37.680 --> 0:40:41.320
<v Speaker 3>a keyboard studio was real, under budget, not top of

0:40:41.360 --> 0:40:43.560
<v Speaker 3>the line. I press out got to be real so

0:40:43.600 --> 0:40:46.120
<v Speaker 3>I loop it. So then I go back on stage

0:40:46.960 --> 0:40:49.600
<v Speaker 3>in the night, I go on stage and I say,

0:40:49.719 --> 0:40:51.560
<v Speaker 3>he said, you're gonna do something for me. I say, yeah,

0:40:52.200 --> 0:40:55.239
<v Speaker 3>They played the music for me, and HBO was not

0:40:55.480 --> 0:40:58.960
<v Speaker 3>supposed to tape me performing. So I get on and

0:40:59.000 --> 0:41:03.360
<v Speaker 3>I'm performing and the place is going crazy. The crowd

0:41:03.480 --> 0:41:06.680
<v Speaker 3>is going crazy. It's moving. They never had a hip

0:41:06.719 --> 0:41:08.200
<v Speaker 3>hop and turned into something.

0:41:08.239 --> 0:41:11.720
<v Speaker 4>Now. HBO was taping it without me knowing it.

0:41:12.000 --> 0:41:14.480
<v Speaker 3>Because they told him, you know, this is Dougie just

0:41:14.520 --> 0:41:15.480
<v Speaker 3>doing something, but that.

0:41:15.480 --> 0:41:17.640
<v Speaker 4>Little something turned into something crazy.

0:41:18.000 --> 0:41:21.680
<v Speaker 3>So then later HBO said, Yo, man, Yo, could we

0:41:21.760 --> 0:41:25.279
<v Speaker 3>show this because this this thing is unbelievable. Did you

0:41:25.360 --> 0:41:28.520
<v Speaker 3>see what this guy did? So then HBO played it

0:41:28.680 --> 0:41:32.799
<v Speaker 3>and it kept playing it every week like constantly, right,

0:41:33.360 --> 0:41:37.960
<v Speaker 3>so Prince seeing it. So when Prince seen it, he said, YO,

0:41:39.160 --> 0:41:41.400
<v Speaker 3>called Dougie up and see if he could meet me

0:41:41.520 --> 0:41:44.520
<v Speaker 3>in Atlanta two because I want him to come to

0:41:44.560 --> 0:41:45.560
<v Speaker 3>my show and perform.

0:41:45.880 --> 0:41:47.040
<v Speaker 4>So I get to this show.

0:41:47.520 --> 0:41:51.440
<v Speaker 3>I'm backstage and he said, yo, jo, I already got

0:41:51.480 --> 0:41:54.400
<v Speaker 3>a set going on now, so I'm gonna do my show,

0:41:54.600 --> 0:41:56.000
<v Speaker 3>but I want to know could you come with me

0:41:56.040 --> 0:41:57.080
<v Speaker 3>to the after party.

0:41:57.600 --> 0:41:59.320
<v Speaker 4>I said all right. I said, yeah, I heard you

0:41:59.360 --> 0:42:01.560
<v Speaker 4>wanted me to come. I'm here. Cool. So I went

0:42:01.600 --> 0:42:02.520
<v Speaker 4>to the after party.

0:42:02.560 --> 0:42:05.399
<v Speaker 3>And this is when left Eye was alive. So we

0:42:05.400 --> 0:42:08.120
<v Speaker 3>go to the after party and left Eye meets me

0:42:08.320 --> 0:42:11.279
<v Speaker 3>and meet Prince, and she's like bugging out, like, yo,

0:42:11.320 --> 0:42:15.040
<v Speaker 3>I can't even believe y'all too here at the same time.

0:42:15.120 --> 0:42:17.560
<v Speaker 3>So I asked Prince. Prince said, yo, I seen you

0:42:17.640 --> 0:42:20.719
<v Speaker 3>on HBO. That was unbelievable. What made you come up

0:42:20.760 --> 0:42:22.840
<v Speaker 3>with that? I said, Now it was this free styling.

0:42:23.200 --> 0:42:25.319
<v Speaker 3>He said, okay. He said, well, let me ask you.

0:42:25.560 --> 0:42:28.839
<v Speaker 3>You think you can get on to night. I said, yeah,

0:42:28.920 --> 0:42:31.279
<v Speaker 3>no problem, he said, but I want to I want

0:42:31.280 --> 0:42:33.279
<v Speaker 3>to ask you, I said, before I get on.

0:42:33.760 --> 0:42:35.879
<v Speaker 4>I just and he wasn't called prince at the time

0:42:36.040 --> 0:42:36.680
<v Speaker 4>we called him.

0:42:36.680 --> 0:42:38.480
<v Speaker 3>You ain't know what to call him, so you know,

0:42:38.560 --> 0:42:41.040
<v Speaker 3>you call him the artist or whatever. I said, I

0:42:41.120 --> 0:42:45.160
<v Speaker 3>just want to know when I get on, how far

0:42:45.280 --> 0:42:47.560
<v Speaker 3>you want me to go? He said, I want you

0:42:47.600 --> 0:42:52.080
<v Speaker 3>to turn this mom out. I said no, I said,

0:42:52.080 --> 0:42:55.759
<v Speaker 3>but I want to know how far do you want

0:42:55.760 --> 0:42:56.160
<v Speaker 3>me to go?

0:42:56.719 --> 0:42:57.879
<v Speaker 4>Like, I mean, I want to.

0:42:57.840 --> 0:43:00.839
<v Speaker 3>Respect what you do, what you're asking Because I got

0:43:00.880 --> 0:43:03.520
<v Speaker 3>on with Dre and snooping them and them when they

0:43:03.560 --> 0:43:06.359
<v Speaker 3>came to New York and Dre pulled me to the side.

0:43:06.400 --> 0:43:09.200
<v Speaker 3>It was like, Dougie, I want you to get on,

0:43:09.680 --> 0:43:16.080
<v Speaker 3>but please don't go.

0:43:18.719 --> 0:43:21.040
<v Speaker 2>Right right right.

0:43:21.360 --> 0:43:23.600
<v Speaker 3>And when he said that to me, When he said

0:43:23.640 --> 0:43:25.640
<v Speaker 3>that to me, I was saying, like, what do you

0:43:25.680 --> 0:43:28.040
<v Speaker 3>mean by that? Like don't you want me to? And

0:43:28.080 --> 0:43:30.640
<v Speaker 3>then I got on and I felt I didn't. I

0:43:30.719 --> 0:43:33.640
<v Speaker 3>listened to him, and I felt bad that I didn't

0:43:33.680 --> 0:43:37.319
<v Speaker 3>go all the way. So after that, I said, I

0:43:37.360 --> 0:43:40.520
<v Speaker 3>got to ask a person how they feel so that

0:43:40.640 --> 0:43:43.280
<v Speaker 3>they don't feel like I'm trying to upstage their setting.

0:43:44.280 --> 0:43:48.279
<v Speaker 3>So I learned that. So long story short, prince sss,

0:43:48.400 --> 0:43:49.680
<v Speaker 3>I want you to.

0:43:51.120 --> 0:43:53.560
<v Speaker 4>Like and he said it in my ear.

0:43:55.200 --> 0:44:04.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So after that I said yo, I said okay, Well,

0:44:04.200 --> 0:44:06.520
<v Speaker 3>if that's what you want me to do, I said, well,

0:44:06.600 --> 0:44:08.120
<v Speaker 3>that is what I'm gonna do.

0:44:08.760 --> 0:44:11.960
<v Speaker 4>And I got on with him that night. When I

0:44:12.000 --> 0:44:15.759
<v Speaker 4>got on with him that night, I took him to

0:44:15.880 --> 0:44:19.480
<v Speaker 4>a place that he ain't never but then when it

0:44:19.560 --> 0:44:20.240
<v Speaker 4>comes to this.

0:44:20.200 --> 0:44:23.880
<v Speaker 3>Thing, so this is what he did. So I came

0:44:23.960 --> 0:44:27.600
<v Speaker 3>down there this whole thing, and at the time I

0:44:27.640 --> 0:44:30.680
<v Speaker 3>was dating, I was when I. When I was dating

0:44:30.680 --> 0:44:31.640
<v Speaker 3>Miss Jones, I was.

0:44:31.600 --> 0:44:34.880
<v Speaker 4>Down there the thing for Sindbad.

0:44:35.880 --> 0:44:38.680
<v Speaker 3>So I went down there and I didn't expect that,

0:44:38.960 --> 0:44:42.000
<v Speaker 3>So I did it based on the energy. I did

0:44:42.040 --> 0:44:44.880
<v Speaker 3>Sinbad in favor. They taped it. I didn't know they

0:44:44.880 --> 0:44:48.240
<v Speaker 3>were gonna tape it. Then they showed it on HBO

0:44:48.719 --> 0:44:52.000
<v Speaker 3>and it explodes and everybody and it was fun. And

0:44:52.120 --> 0:44:57.040
<v Speaker 3>actually after that, Sheryl Lynn was booked on the Soul

0:44:57.200 --> 0:45:02.000
<v Speaker 3>Funk Festival after that because how impactful it was. And

0:45:02.040 --> 0:45:05.360
<v Speaker 3>then came Sugarhill Gang and all of the other groups.

0:45:05.560 --> 0:45:09.480
<v Speaker 3>So moving into Prince, he's seen it. When he's seen it,

0:45:09.480 --> 0:45:12.880
<v Speaker 3>he called up Lindelle McMillan, who was my lawyer.

0:45:13.000 --> 0:45:15.279
<v Speaker 4>Wow right. And when he called up.

0:45:15.239 --> 0:45:19.000
<v Speaker 3>Lindown line there and said, yo, Doug, he said, can

0:45:19.040 --> 0:45:21.960
<v Speaker 3>you come down to Atlanta? So I went down there

0:45:21.960 --> 0:45:27.040
<v Speaker 3>and I took Grandmaster Caz. I took Grandmaster Cast because

0:45:27.040 --> 0:45:31.160
<v Speaker 3>he loved Prince and he told me that. He said, Doug,

0:45:31.719 --> 0:45:34.040
<v Speaker 3>if you ever meet him, I just want you to

0:45:34.080 --> 0:45:38.440
<v Speaker 3>do me one favor. Please introduce me to him. So

0:45:38.719 --> 0:45:41.440
<v Speaker 3>I was like, okay, I brought him with me. So

0:45:41.480 --> 0:45:44.560
<v Speaker 3>I go down there. Left eye is there, she's in

0:45:44.719 --> 0:45:48.200
<v Speaker 3>rere form, she's vibing. Energy is good. He gets in

0:45:48.280 --> 0:45:52.480
<v Speaker 3>my ear. After I asked him, I said, brother, I

0:45:52.560 --> 0:45:54.640
<v Speaker 3>just want to be respectful to your set.

0:45:55.160 --> 0:45:57.399
<v Speaker 4>You know, I appreciate you, and.

0:45:57.400 --> 0:45:59.480
<v Speaker 3>I don't want to do anything that's gonna make you

0:45:59.520 --> 0:46:03.520
<v Speaker 3>feel that I'm doing that. I'm trying to be disrespectful.

0:46:04.080 --> 0:46:06.840
<v Speaker 3>And he was like, look, let me tell you something.

0:46:07.680 --> 0:46:11.239
<v Speaker 3>I want you to turn this out to the he said,

0:46:11.400 --> 0:46:15.000
<v Speaker 3>He said all the way out. I turned around, said,

0:46:15.719 --> 0:46:20.920
<v Speaker 3>no problem, m And after that I got on and

0:46:21.040 --> 0:46:26.000
<v Speaker 3>I turned that out to the point back after it

0:46:26.040 --> 0:46:31.040
<v Speaker 3>was over, we kept doing encore after encore because question

0:46:31.120 --> 0:46:33.200
<v Speaker 3>no artists go we me and him.

0:46:33.480 --> 0:46:35.040
<v Speaker 4>They can go for two, two.

0:46:34.880 --> 0:46:37.280
<v Speaker 3>Hours three, it doesn't really even stop.

0:46:37.520 --> 0:46:39.600
<v Speaker 1>Like do you do you have a do you have

0:46:39.640 --> 0:46:44.280
<v Speaker 1>a not an itinerary, but do you have a routine

0:46:44.320 --> 0:46:47.080
<v Speaker 1>bag that you go through, like when you do your

0:46:47.080 --> 0:46:53.000
<v Speaker 1>come again rhyme? Or you're uh, I can't even you

0:46:53.000 --> 0:46:56.240
<v Speaker 1>know right right, like I know your go to dougie

0:46:56.400 --> 0:46:59.239
<v Speaker 1>isms that can like how many of those do you

0:46:59.320 --> 0:47:02.200
<v Speaker 1>have in your head when it's time to just get

0:47:02.239 --> 0:47:03.000
<v Speaker 1>on someone set?

0:47:03.120 --> 0:47:05.720
<v Speaker 2>Like do you have like thirty things already thought out?

0:47:05.760 --> 0:47:08.920
<v Speaker 2>Like okay, well, it.

0:47:08.880 --> 0:47:11.000
<v Speaker 3>Goes back to the same thing that I was telling you.

0:47:11.400 --> 0:47:15.920
<v Speaker 3>I'm not thinking, I'm feeling, and what I'm feeling is

0:47:15.960 --> 0:47:19.280
<v Speaker 3>what I'm doing. So there's no there's no ism.

0:47:19.680 --> 0:47:24.160
<v Speaker 4>It is. It just is, and it is at.

0:47:24.040 --> 0:47:27.120
<v Speaker 3>That moment of now, and no matter what it is,

0:47:27.320 --> 0:47:30.600
<v Speaker 3>it will be what I wanted to be, and that

0:47:30.880 --> 0:47:34.200
<v Speaker 3>is what it is. So and I don't mean that

0:47:34.239 --> 0:47:37.720
<v Speaker 3>in an ego way. I mean that from a spiritual

0:47:37.800 --> 0:47:42.279
<v Speaker 3>perspective that I'm coming to the table with energy, Like

0:47:42.280 --> 0:47:45.000
<v Speaker 3>like when we were switching to this for a second

0:47:45.080 --> 0:47:47.560
<v Speaker 3>and going back to the story when y'all did Dave

0:47:47.719 --> 0:47:48.640
<v Speaker 3>Chappelle and.

0:47:48.560 --> 0:47:49.400
<v Speaker 4>He just called me.

0:47:49.520 --> 0:47:51.359
<v Speaker 3>I was just coming to see this. I just came

0:47:51.400 --> 0:47:54.200
<v Speaker 3>to see y'all. I didn't come to get on stage,

0:47:54.680 --> 0:47:58.120
<v Speaker 3>like I swear, that wasn't my goal. I was just

0:47:58.320 --> 0:48:01.960
<v Speaker 3>there to see you him and all that. I say, Yeah,

0:48:02.000 --> 0:48:03.880
<v Speaker 3>let me see this. This is gonna be nice. And

0:48:03.960 --> 0:48:08.800
<v Speaker 3>out of nowhere, somebody, I think caller or somebody was saying, Dougie,

0:48:08.840 --> 0:48:12.520
<v Speaker 3>they want you to come on stage, and then Dave

0:48:12.760 --> 0:48:16.920
<v Speaker 3>is saying, yo, here, man, yo, go on do it.

0:48:17.680 --> 0:48:21.919
<v Speaker 3>So in my mind there's a switch that just kind

0:48:21.920 --> 0:48:25.759
<v Speaker 3>of automatically go off, and I'm going all.

0:48:25.960 --> 0:48:30.200
<v Speaker 4>The way end unless you tell me don't.

0:48:30.520 --> 0:48:32.839
<v Speaker 3>And then if you tell me don't, I might just

0:48:32.960 --> 0:48:36.040
<v Speaker 3>say let them do it, and I'm just stand on

0:48:36.080 --> 0:48:38.920
<v Speaker 3>the side and watch, because I don't ever want to

0:48:39.960 --> 0:48:43.680
<v Speaker 3>feel like I'm making somebody feel funny, and I don't

0:48:43.680 --> 0:48:46.799
<v Speaker 3>ever want to feel funny if I don't do what

0:48:46.920 --> 0:48:48.440
<v Speaker 3>I naturally feel.

0:48:48.200 --> 0:48:48.759
<v Speaker 4>I want to do.

0:48:49.239 --> 0:48:53.080
<v Speaker 3>So that night, he had me in a tough situation

0:48:53.480 --> 0:48:56.120
<v Speaker 3>and the clock was ticking, and I was looking back

0:48:56.160 --> 0:48:59.840
<v Speaker 3>at you. You was frustrated at him about the clock,

0:49:00.120 --> 0:49:02.319
<v Speaker 3>and I'm like, damn, I don't want us to be

0:49:02.400 --> 0:49:04.680
<v Speaker 3>mad at me, I said, I don't want us to

0:49:04.680 --> 0:49:08.200
<v Speaker 3>be mad at me. God keep telling me, go hard,

0:49:08.560 --> 0:49:12.359
<v Speaker 3>go on. And then Usher jumped on the stage. Todd

0:49:12.640 --> 0:49:14.799
<v Speaker 3>t I jumped on the stage, and you was looking

0:49:14.840 --> 0:49:16.640
<v Speaker 3>at them. It's a wrap, it's over.

0:49:18.920 --> 0:49:21.040
<v Speaker 1>Let me let me explain to our audience. Okay, So

0:49:21.160 --> 0:49:24.600
<v Speaker 1>New York is very old school. In New York is

0:49:24.600 --> 0:49:29.160
<v Speaker 1>what we call a union town. Like you cannot step

0:49:29.200 --> 0:49:32.480
<v Speaker 1>on the stage in New York City unless you play

0:49:32.640 --> 0:49:37.719
<v Speaker 1>exuberant fines. If you go overtime, they're they're antal retentive

0:49:37.800 --> 0:49:41.440
<v Speaker 1>with sound checks with shooting cameras. If you bring a

0:49:41.480 --> 0:49:43.680
<v Speaker 1>camera out a Radio City Music Hall, that's like twenty

0:49:43.680 --> 0:49:46.399
<v Speaker 1>five thousand dollars. Like New York will find a way

0:49:46.440 --> 0:49:50.120
<v Speaker 1>to tax you just for simple things. It's a very

0:49:50.160 --> 0:49:54.160
<v Speaker 1>old school thing. So what Doug is referencing is whenever

0:49:54.239 --> 0:49:58.399
<v Speaker 1>Dave Chappelle does his like long residencies at Radio City

0:49:58.480 --> 0:50:00.640
<v Speaker 1>Music Hall, you know he'll do like fifteen twenty shows

0:50:00.680 --> 0:50:03.480
<v Speaker 1>or whatever. David's is one of those guys that also

0:50:03.600 --> 0:50:05.920
<v Speaker 1>just lives by his heart, and I guess that he

0:50:06.080 --> 0:50:08.520
<v Speaker 1>has the deep pockets to you know.

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<v Speaker 2>And as of this speaking, I saw Dave last.

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<v Speaker 1>Night at Madison Square Garden with rock Him Buster Rhymes,

0:50:14.800 --> 0:50:18.360
<v Speaker 1>and you know, the Union guys are like usually in

0:50:18.440 --> 0:50:22.320
<v Speaker 1>New York, especially at Madison Square Garden, especially at Radio City.

0:50:23.400 --> 0:50:27.040
<v Speaker 1>I'll say that for every five minutes you go over,

0:50:27.239 --> 0:50:31.480
<v Speaker 1>that's like ten thousand dollars. So the whole goal is

0:50:31.520 --> 0:50:35.480
<v Speaker 1>like when it's ten fifty nine, shut the show down,

0:50:35.960 --> 0:50:41.200
<v Speaker 1>not at a Dave heel afan. So so at this point,

0:50:41.200 --> 0:50:43.960
<v Speaker 1>when Dave is calling everyone on stage, I know we

0:50:44.040 --> 0:50:49.080
<v Speaker 1>got like four minutes left, and all I'm thinking about is, Okay,

0:50:49.160 --> 0:50:51.160
<v Speaker 1>we're about to lose a lot of money here, and

0:50:51.239 --> 0:50:54.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to be responsible for that. So at

0:50:54.680 --> 0:50:58.400
<v Speaker 1>ten fifty nine, I want the promoters. And you know,

0:50:58.440 --> 0:51:00.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm the hall monitor of him.

0:51:00.080 --> 0:51:00.319
<v Speaker 2>Pop.

0:51:00.360 --> 0:51:02.439
<v Speaker 1>Everyone will tell you I'm the hall monitor hip hop

0:51:02.680 --> 0:51:05.560
<v Speaker 1>right right right, I'm the guy decided like, hey, promoter,

0:51:05.960 --> 0:51:07.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm following union rules.

0:51:07.719 --> 0:51:11.160
<v Speaker 2>That's Dave Jabelle, not me, you know, but anyway, continue

0:51:11.440 --> 0:51:11.919
<v Speaker 2>right right?

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<v Speaker 4>No, that's crazy, that's crazy. The way you just said that.

0:51:17.400 --> 0:51:20.240
<v Speaker 4>The crazy.

0:51:20.280 --> 0:51:23.520
<v Speaker 3>I never heard nobody say that, yo, yo, And you

0:51:23.600 --> 0:51:26.399
<v Speaker 3>know what, I've seen it in your face when we

0:51:26.400 --> 0:51:31.000
<v Speaker 3>was doing it, I was like, I said, man, question, Oh,

0:51:30.640 --> 0:51:33.120
<v Speaker 3>he's trying to get everybody out of here. I said, well,

0:51:33.160 --> 0:51:35.280
<v Speaker 3>Dave just won't stop, and he keeps.

0:51:35.120 --> 0:51:36.640
<v Speaker 4>Telling me go harder.

0:51:36.880 --> 0:51:39.120
<v Speaker 3>I said, I'm torn between should I.

0:51:39.120 --> 0:51:41.120
<v Speaker 4>Listen to the hall monitor? Should I.

0:51:44.960 --> 0:51:45.239
<v Speaker 3>Do not?

0:51:45.480 --> 0:51:48.400
<v Speaker 1>Like I don't like using twenty five thousand dollars for

0:51:48.520 --> 0:51:51.760
<v Speaker 1>nobody on my watch, Like I'm a guy that start.

0:51:51.560 --> 0:51:55.319
<v Speaker 4>On time, you know, And he didn't even care.

0:51:55.920 --> 0:51:59.719
<v Speaker 2>So he's rich, right, hitch bitch.

0:52:01.080 --> 0:52:05.080
<v Speaker 3>Yo. So so because of that, and because of that

0:52:05.200 --> 0:52:09.960
<v Speaker 3>kind of energy, I'm always careful because I don't want

0:52:10.040 --> 0:52:13.480
<v Speaker 3>nobody to feel like I'm trying to do something to

0:52:13.560 --> 0:52:17.839
<v Speaker 3>you or take something. So long story short, I get

0:52:17.840 --> 0:52:24.359
<v Speaker 3>on with Pete Prince yo. He's like this, go harder, Yeah,

0:52:24.719 --> 0:52:27.600
<v Speaker 3>go harder, give me more. So after this over the

0:52:27.680 --> 0:52:29.960
<v Speaker 3>band and everybody, we go to the roof. They got

0:52:29.960 --> 0:52:32.680
<v Speaker 3>this little roof. We're sitting out there. He's sitting there

0:52:32.719 --> 0:52:36.200
<v Speaker 3>looking at me like this. I'm telling you that I

0:52:36.239 --> 0:52:38.960
<v Speaker 3>can't make this up. Bro. He looking at me like this,

0:52:40.080 --> 0:52:42.240
<v Speaker 3>just sitting here looking at me. And then the band

0:52:42.320 --> 0:52:46.080
<v Speaker 3>is standing around him and he goes, how about it, band?

0:52:46.320 --> 0:52:48.959
<v Speaker 3>What do you think? And it was like, oh my god,

0:52:49.120 --> 0:52:49.680
<v Speaker 3>you crazy?

0:52:49.719 --> 0:52:52.120
<v Speaker 4>What do we think? Are you serious? Did you see

0:52:52.120 --> 0:52:52.799
<v Speaker 4>what he just did?

0:52:53.520 --> 0:52:55.640
<v Speaker 3>I and the whole band is going crazy enough? He

0:52:55.640 --> 0:52:58.200
<v Speaker 3>turned out. He said, so what do you want to do?

0:52:59.000 --> 0:53:01.480
<v Speaker 3>I said, oh, man, I came out to do what

0:53:01.560 --> 0:53:03.279
<v Speaker 3>I wanted to do. I had some fun with you.

0:53:03.360 --> 0:53:05.919
<v Speaker 3>Man said this Grandma say cast Cats is sitting there

0:53:05.960 --> 0:53:09.160
<v Speaker 3>like this, like looking at him like that, right, So

0:53:09.160 --> 0:53:11.680
<v Speaker 3>what I'm saying in there and I'm like cats cast

0:53:11.760 --> 0:53:14.439
<v Speaker 3>you know ca? He said, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah,

0:53:14.600 --> 0:53:17.279
<v Speaker 3>this is great night, great night. And then and then

0:53:17.360 --> 0:53:19.799
<v Speaker 3>first look at me, he said, so what you want

0:53:19.800 --> 0:53:22.520
<v Speaker 3>to do? You want to be down with MPG or

0:53:22.640 --> 0:53:24.200
<v Speaker 3>what I turn?

0:53:24.440 --> 0:53:25.600
<v Speaker 4>I turned about. I'm looking out.

0:53:25.960 --> 0:53:28.719
<v Speaker 3>I look at Cass right, and this is real. I

0:53:28.760 --> 0:53:31.440
<v Speaker 3>look at Cass. I'm like your cats. Oh, this guy's funny,

0:53:31.520 --> 0:53:35.680
<v Speaker 3>yoe like in my mind. I said, yeah, okay, whatever

0:53:35.719 --> 0:53:37.799
<v Speaker 3>I said, Man, I just came out, man, I said,

0:53:37.800 --> 0:53:38.279
<v Speaker 3>I wasn't.

0:53:38.520 --> 0:53:40.400
<v Speaker 4>I said, I ain't come out here for no paper.

0:53:40.920 --> 0:53:44.239
<v Speaker 3>I just came out to show you love because you

0:53:44.320 --> 0:53:47.680
<v Speaker 3>deserved that, you know, And he and I said, I said,

0:53:47.680 --> 0:53:50.040
<v Speaker 3>and your band was fun and I enjoyed it. I said,

0:53:50.040 --> 0:53:53.400
<v Speaker 3>but we're gonna leave because you know, it was a

0:53:53.520 --> 0:53:56.720
<v Speaker 3>nice night. So it's a tree there, right. He takes

0:53:56.719 --> 0:53:59.279
<v Speaker 3>a leaf off the tree and he go like this

0:54:00.360 --> 0:54:04.480
<v Speaker 3>and he go, what, bro, I'm telling you you take

0:54:04.480 --> 0:54:09.560
<v Speaker 3>the leave. We go here go he go, okay, all right,

0:54:10.880 --> 0:54:14.239
<v Speaker 3>good And then after I said, I'm looking at him

0:54:14.239 --> 0:54:20.200
<v Speaker 3>and I was like, I supposed to eat a leaf too.

0:54:19.719 --> 0:54:22.399
<v Speaker 4>I'm like, yo, where we're going with this one?

0:54:22.440 --> 0:54:25.080
<v Speaker 3>But I said yo, But I like your stop. I

0:54:25.280 --> 0:54:27.560
<v Speaker 3>like what you just did right there. So after that,

0:54:27.680 --> 0:54:30.000
<v Speaker 3>I get up and I leave, and the band and

0:54:30.040 --> 0:54:34.720
<v Speaker 3>everybody's saying goodbye. I get back home, kays Is blown away.

0:54:34.880 --> 0:54:38.759
<v Speaker 3>I get a call cause said, yo, the artist wants

0:54:38.800 --> 0:54:41.160
<v Speaker 3>you to come on, wants you to come out, and

0:54:41.200 --> 0:54:44.279
<v Speaker 3>he want to know can you meet him tomorrow night

0:54:44.360 --> 0:54:45.480
<v Speaker 3>in Oklahoma?

0:54:45.880 --> 0:54:46.680
<v Speaker 4>He said he.

0:54:46.600 --> 0:54:50.400
<v Speaker 3>Got twenty days and he just wanted to know what

0:54:50.520 --> 0:54:51.520
<v Speaker 3>do you want?

0:54:52.400 --> 0:54:53.520
<v Speaker 4>I said, are you serious?

0:54:53.960 --> 0:54:58.359
<v Speaker 3>And that was the beginning of me and Prince and

0:54:58.400 --> 0:55:01.560
<v Speaker 3>it never stopped after that. And it got so deep

0:55:02.440 --> 0:55:05.560
<v Speaker 3>that he used to ask me and he would and

0:55:05.600 --> 0:55:06.960
<v Speaker 3>he appreciated.

0:55:07.200 --> 0:55:07.719
<v Speaker 4>He was sick.

0:55:07.880 --> 0:55:10.800
<v Speaker 3>So where do you think I should come out? What songs?

0:55:10.840 --> 0:55:12.719
<v Speaker 3>What's the order of these songs you think I should do?

0:55:13.120 --> 0:55:14.880
<v Speaker 3>And I said, yo, you gotta come out of the crowd.

0:55:14.960 --> 0:55:17.560
<v Speaker 3>Like it was me and him Shaka can Lorry Graham,

0:55:17.880 --> 0:55:22.240
<v Speaker 3>we had make Ceo, We had nase. He said, he said,

0:55:22.960 --> 0:55:25.279
<v Speaker 3>so should I come out the crowd? Right? I said, ye,

0:55:25.360 --> 0:55:27.239
<v Speaker 3>come out here. I said, when you come to New York,

0:55:27.280 --> 0:55:30.120
<v Speaker 3>you gotta do pop life. He was like, here you

0:55:30.160 --> 0:55:30.480
<v Speaker 3>think so?

0:55:30.680 --> 0:55:34.040
<v Speaker 4>I said, I know so, and he would listen.

0:55:34.320 --> 0:55:38.920
<v Speaker 1>He would let me, you are the curator, right, He.

0:55:38.920 --> 0:55:41.640
<v Speaker 4>Would let me design the shows. When we did Essen's Festival.

0:55:42.440 --> 0:55:45.520
<v Speaker 3>I had another technique that I was coming up with

0:55:45.640 --> 0:55:49.520
<v Speaker 3>as far as different performances. So I started out in

0:55:49.600 --> 0:55:52.560
<v Speaker 3>the audience with the turntables because he never wanted to

0:55:52.640 --> 0:55:56.040
<v Speaker 3>use turntables. I said, no, we're gonna use turntables, but

0:55:56.080 --> 0:55:59.120
<v Speaker 3>you never used them like this, So I would start

0:55:59.640 --> 0:56:00.840
<v Speaker 3>what did turntables?

0:56:00.960 --> 0:56:03.120
<v Speaker 4>And I get the audience to the point it was crazy.

0:56:03.160 --> 0:56:06.160
<v Speaker 3>We was at Essence Festival, right, and it was eighty

0:56:06.280 --> 0:56:11.320
<v Speaker 3>thousand eighty Yo, it.

0:56:11.239 --> 0:56:12.280
<v Speaker 4>Was eighty thousand.

0:56:12.280 --> 0:56:15.080
<v Speaker 3>And before we went to the Essence, we did the

0:56:16.000 --> 0:56:20.120
<v Speaker 3>some bold place in La And then later on that night,

0:56:20.480 --> 0:56:25.200
<v Speaker 3>we're sitting down and then he says to me, yeah, yeah, yeah, Hollywood, Hollywood.

0:56:25.239 --> 0:56:28.120
<v Speaker 3>That's right. He's sitting down with me, and he says,

0:56:29.440 --> 0:56:32.719
<v Speaker 3>Essence magazine is in here and they want to interview me.

0:56:34.600 --> 0:56:36.560
<v Speaker 4>Could you talk to them? Can you talk to them

0:56:36.560 --> 0:56:37.120
<v Speaker 4>for me too?

0:56:37.480 --> 0:56:40.120
<v Speaker 3>So I start talking to him and he started telling

0:56:40.160 --> 0:56:41.240
<v Speaker 3>him how this thing worked.

0:56:41.320 --> 0:56:43.840
<v Speaker 4>He said, you see see how you know what I'm saying.

0:56:44.080 --> 0:56:46.080
<v Speaker 3>I don't even got to say it because that's how

0:56:46.120 --> 0:56:50.760
<v Speaker 3>we locked in. And then afterwards then we were meeting

0:56:50.960 --> 0:56:52.640
<v Speaker 3>LA and they said, yo, he wants you to meet

0:56:52.719 --> 0:56:53.480
<v Speaker 3>him at this club.

0:56:53.760 --> 0:56:54.680
<v Speaker 4>I go to the club.

0:56:55.160 --> 0:56:57.880
<v Speaker 3>He's sitting in this room on the other side. The

0:56:57.960 --> 0:57:01.440
<v Speaker 3>party's bouncing, and he's sitting in there by himself with

0:57:01.560 --> 0:57:06.800
<v Speaker 3>a little cup with like like some coffee and some honey,

0:57:07.000 --> 0:57:09.600
<v Speaker 3>and he's sitting there like this. And he's sitting there

0:57:09.640 --> 0:57:12.200
<v Speaker 3>like this, and he said, you know, we're supposed to

0:57:12.280 --> 0:57:14.640
<v Speaker 3>do the essence. So how you think we need to

0:57:14.680 --> 0:57:17.240
<v Speaker 3>do this? I said, I said, how you think we

0:57:17.320 --> 0:57:19.960
<v Speaker 3>need to do this? He said, I'm going rock, I'm

0:57:19.960 --> 0:57:24.880
<v Speaker 3>going straight rock. I said, all I said, all due respect,

0:57:26.640 --> 0:57:27.720
<v Speaker 3>I don't think that that's.

0:57:30.520 --> 0:57:35.320
<v Speaker 2>I said, I said, and then.

0:57:35.680 --> 0:57:38.000
<v Speaker 4>Anybody. He said, so what you think?

0:57:39.040 --> 0:57:41.880
<v Speaker 3>I said, I think we need to do what we do,

0:57:42.240 --> 0:57:45.120
<v Speaker 3>but you need to do the hits. I said, this

0:57:45.200 --> 0:57:47.160
<v Speaker 3>is a black audience. And I said, I want to

0:57:47.200 --> 0:57:51.640
<v Speaker 3>hear hit after hit after hit. And I said, I said, Well,

0:57:51.720 --> 0:57:53.919
<v Speaker 3>before we get to the hits, I said, I'm gonna

0:57:53.920 --> 0:57:56.120
<v Speaker 3>take the turntables and I'm gonna set.

0:57:55.920 --> 0:57:58.400
<v Speaker 4>It up in the middle of the crowd, and I'm gonna.

0:57:58.200 --> 0:58:00.680
<v Speaker 3>Get this thing pumped up to the point that is

0:58:01.000 --> 0:58:04.400
<v Speaker 3>that is ridiculous, and then I'm going to pass it

0:58:04.480 --> 0:58:07.040
<v Speaker 3>to you onto the stage and you're gonna hit him

0:58:07.040 --> 0:58:08.960
<v Speaker 3>with a hit after hit after hit.

0:58:09.360 --> 0:58:12.080
<v Speaker 4>He said, Okay, I got it.

0:58:12.800 --> 0:58:16.040
<v Speaker 3>We went to the Essence, I went into the crowd,

0:58:16.120 --> 0:58:18.880
<v Speaker 3>like I said, set it up, and I had like

0:58:19.000 --> 0:58:21.040
<v Speaker 3>eighty thousand people doing the wobble.

0:58:21.280 --> 0:58:24.680
<v Speaker 4>The damn building was shaken. Yeah, right that night he

0:58:24.800 --> 0:58:25.040
<v Speaker 4>was there.

0:58:25.400 --> 0:58:30.360
<v Speaker 5>Yeah about that stage, No, no, no, the.

0:58:30.440 --> 0:58:35.640
<v Speaker 3>Whole building was shaken. I have never felt nothing like

0:58:35.680 --> 0:58:39.400
<v Speaker 3>that other than probably Chuck Brown at Capital Center or

0:58:39.440 --> 0:58:41.280
<v Speaker 3>something ridiculous.

0:58:41.520 --> 0:58:44.120
<v Speaker 4>So after it was over, I mean, after that, I

0:58:44.160 --> 0:58:46.600
<v Speaker 4>get it to a certain point. I know it's crazy

0:58:46.600 --> 0:58:48.680
<v Speaker 4>because mc light came over to me and said, do

0:58:48.760 --> 0:58:50.400
<v Speaker 4>you feel that? Do you feel that?

0:58:51.040 --> 0:58:53.400
<v Speaker 3>Like that? So that's when I knew it was serious.

0:58:53.720 --> 0:58:56.160
<v Speaker 3>So then I passed it to him on the stage.

0:58:56.640 --> 0:58:58.520
<v Speaker 3>And when I passed it to him on the stage,

0:58:58.880 --> 0:59:01.840
<v Speaker 3>it was crazy. It just it was crazy, man.

0:59:02.160 --> 0:59:04.560
<v Speaker 5>And then that's one of all times day I think

0:59:04.600 --> 0:59:09.880
<v Speaker 5>that was they.

0:59:07.680 --> 0:59:12.160
<v Speaker 3>They definitely, they definitely say that it was definitely up

0:59:12.160 --> 0:59:13.480
<v Speaker 3>there because it was nothing.

0:59:14.040 --> 0:59:16.640
<v Speaker 4>It was nothing close, But that was the kind of.

0:59:18.080 --> 0:59:22.400
<v Speaker 3>Relationship we had because it was like hanging out with

0:59:22.440 --> 0:59:27.400
<v Speaker 3>a dude who was just as like he didn't care

0:59:27.440 --> 0:59:29.520
<v Speaker 3>as much as I don't care, you know what I mean,

0:59:31.080 --> 0:59:33.880
<v Speaker 3>Like we be riding around in the night and it'll

0:59:33.920 --> 0:59:35.960
<v Speaker 3>be like, you want to go you want to go

0:59:36.000 --> 0:59:37.360
<v Speaker 3>to the club where.

0:59:37.200 --> 0:59:39.400
<v Speaker 4>I started at. I said, yeah, let's go in there.

0:59:39.440 --> 0:59:41.560
<v Speaker 4>And you know that big guy who plays the drums

0:59:41.560 --> 0:59:44.880
<v Speaker 4>and used to play the drums on the Real Yeah,

0:59:45.000 --> 0:59:46.200
<v Speaker 4>he was sitting there one night.

0:59:46.600 --> 0:59:49.280
<v Speaker 3>We're sitting there and he said, do you feel like

0:59:49.360 --> 0:59:50.120
<v Speaker 3>doing something tonight?

0:59:50.360 --> 0:59:54.360
<v Speaker 4>I said, you feel like doing something tonight? He turned around.

0:59:54.520 --> 0:59:55.120
<v Speaker 4>He said yeah.

0:59:55.560 --> 0:59:57.320
<v Speaker 3>I said, but but but but you ain't got to

0:59:57.360 --> 0:59:59.080
<v Speaker 3>do nothing, I said, I said, let me, I'll do

0:59:59.200 --> 1:00:02.200
<v Speaker 3>something with him. He said, all right, but but I

1:00:02.320 --> 1:00:04.320
<v Speaker 3>go in there and get on with with Bland and

1:00:04.400 --> 1:00:07.400
<v Speaker 3>the band that they have in there, turn that into something.

1:00:08.520 --> 1:00:11.520
<v Speaker 3>Jump back in the limo, drive out to his house.

1:00:12.040 --> 1:00:14.600
<v Speaker 3>We're sitting in a lemo talking and he and he

1:00:14.680 --> 1:00:19.080
<v Speaker 3>told me something that was crazy. Man. He said, at

1:00:19.120 --> 1:00:22.640
<v Speaker 3>one time, he said the Time was a band that

1:00:22.680 --> 1:00:26.800
<v Speaker 3>when he when he had to get on after them, he.

1:00:26.680 --> 1:00:30.120
<v Speaker 4>Was nervous, he said, because the.

1:00:30.200 --> 1:00:35.640
<v Speaker 3>Time generated so much excitement, so much celebration, so much energy.

1:00:36.040 --> 1:00:38.680
<v Speaker 3>That he said he felt like when he got on

1:00:38.920 --> 1:00:41.680
<v Speaker 3>after it went to such a high.

1:00:42.360 --> 1:00:44.720
<v Speaker 4>That he's doing all of these different things.

1:00:44.600 --> 1:00:48.320
<v Speaker 3>But he can't he can't create that that you know

1:00:48.400 --> 1:00:52.880
<v Speaker 3>that jungle love. Know that, he said. Then he said

1:00:52.920 --> 1:00:56.680
<v Speaker 3>to me, he said, I've seen a lot of performers,

1:00:57.000 --> 1:00:59.880
<v Speaker 3>he said that I'm telling you. He said, you are

1:01:00.360 --> 1:01:05.320
<v Speaker 3>the most unusual and the most shocking that I have

1:01:05.480 --> 1:01:08.520
<v Speaker 3>ever seen. He said, I don't know why God brought

1:01:08.520 --> 1:01:12.840
<v Speaker 3>me and you together, but he said, you make me

1:01:13.000 --> 1:01:17.360
<v Speaker 3>feel that same kind of thing, but on another level

1:01:17.640 --> 1:01:18.840
<v Speaker 3>that I felt with the time.

1:01:18.920 --> 1:01:21.680
<v Speaker 4>And he said, and I'm glad that you whip me.

1:01:25.520 --> 1:01:30.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean that that is literally you have no fear.

1:01:30.920 --> 1:01:33.160
<v Speaker 1>And that's the thing that I want our audience to know,

1:01:33.400 --> 1:01:42.760
<v Speaker 1>like you literally have you have zero fear. Wait, before

1:01:42.800 --> 1:01:44.880
<v Speaker 1>we go, we got to talk about the Chuck Brown project.

1:01:45.520 --> 1:01:47.520
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, you.

1:01:47.400 --> 1:01:49.560
<v Speaker 1>Know something Okay, when you when you were telling the

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<v Speaker 1>story of the show, it kind of it kind of

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<v Speaker 1>hit me. And you know, I know that it's never

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<v Speaker 1>going on record before.

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<v Speaker 2>I know that.

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<v Speaker 1>The that the perception is that Go Go really never

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<v Speaker 1>got its just due, but it's just we never new

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<v Speaker 1>Jack Swing is basically Go Go And I really didn't

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<v Speaker 1>truly realize that until wow, like moments ago. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>if you listen to like I mean, the show is

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<v Speaker 1>essentially Go Go, It is new Jack swing.

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<v Speaker 4>Also it's a part of it.

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<v Speaker 1>But Teddy, but I think it's electronic. I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>electronic go go, and we just never called it that.

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<v Speaker 4>So I agree. I agree with you. I agree with

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<v Speaker 4>you now.

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<v Speaker 3>And I never looked at it like that because see

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<v Speaker 3>and this and this is not to take nothing from nobody.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not that guy. I'm not even built like that.

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<v Speaker 3>But that thing about the way to beat plays and

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<v Speaker 3>me beat it like I programmed.

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<v Speaker 4>I basically he put on a metron.

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<v Speaker 3>On and I played it out, and I put these

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<v Speaker 3>things and I you know, I needed the guy who

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<v Speaker 3>was technically savvy to allow me to get on that

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<v Speaker 3>drum machine and do what I do because anything like

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<v Speaker 3>when I did Freaks Beef, if I did Riseing to

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<v Speaker 3>the Top beat, if I do Lotti Dot, I make

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<v Speaker 3>the beat. So it's what I do. When I did

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<v Speaker 3>Original Human Beetbox, I make the beat. So when this

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<v Speaker 3>happened and I was making the show that swing, I

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<v Speaker 3>never thought about it from go go because you know,

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<v Speaker 3>as a kid, I used to play the juke box

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<v Speaker 3>in the pool room around my block where we were.

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<v Speaker 3>They are games and all that and keep us out

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<v Speaker 3>of the street. But they had Busting Loose in the

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<v Speaker 3>jukebox and I was hearing it. I said, Charlotte, get it.

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<v Speaker 4>Y'all say what you like, back to back to back

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<v Speaker 4>to back.

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<v Speaker 3>So I think that that feeling influenced me when I

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<v Speaker 3>was in the show, because it's the swing, it's that,

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<v Speaker 3>it's that, it's the movement of it. And then, like

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<v Speaker 3>you said, which I think is really a great observation,

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<v Speaker 3>and I never thought about that that this show is

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<v Speaker 3>a go go record.

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<v Speaker 2>It is.

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<v Speaker 4>It is.

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<v Speaker 5>But you are the first person in the history, though,

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<v Speaker 5>to do something besides a collaboration with the genre, like right, Doug, Like,

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<v Speaker 5>technically you're the only person of note that has given

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<v Speaker 5>this kind of love to that genre in this way, right.

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<v Speaker 2>In this way. Herbie Loveug used to like sample lot

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<v Speaker 2>like yeah, but not in a yeah, he's not like

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<v Speaker 2>the way he's doing it.

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<v Speaker 5>It was always a collaboration, but not a total like dedication,

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<v Speaker 5>love letter and inspiration kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 2>So how did the project come together?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, it's interesting, man.

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<v Speaker 3>I was and I'm telling you the truth again, I

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<v Speaker 3>was sleeping and out of nowhere something said.

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<v Speaker 4>Write a song about Chuck Brown.

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<v Speaker 3>And when it said write a song about Chuck Brown.

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<v Speaker 3>I picked up the pen and I just wrote the

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<v Speaker 3>song and I made the beat, and on the beat,

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<v Speaker 3>some of those drum sounds are me because I couldn't

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<v Speaker 3>find certain sounds that I wanted for this effect that

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<v Speaker 3>I was looking for with the Go Go.

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<v Speaker 4>So now what I do is I'll.

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<v Speaker 3>Go in there and I'll do my own I'll be

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<v Speaker 3>the high hat with the drum.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll be the other snare on top of the snare.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll put my low tone.

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<v Speaker 4>Based drum under the foot.

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<v Speaker 3>So now the way that I do beats is I'm

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<v Speaker 3>I'm always intertwining now my own drum sounds on top

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<v Speaker 3>of drum sets, because I don't think they have all

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<v Speaker 3>of the drum sounds that I can hear anymore, so

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<v Speaker 3>I make them up. So I started to build the track,

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<v Speaker 3>and when I built the track, I was writing. I

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<v Speaker 3>was writing a song to it. And then it was

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<v Speaker 3>interesting to me because I was like, why am I

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<v Speaker 3>doing this? And that I thought about the way I

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<v Speaker 3>met Chuck Run from Run DMC was the guy who

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<v Speaker 3>told me because we was on the show together in

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<v Speaker 3>Capital Center eighty five. He told me, yo, you ever

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<v Speaker 3>been you ever seen Chuck Brown. You ever heard Go Go?

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<v Speaker 3>I said, nah, I know, Chuck Brown, but what's Go Go?

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<v Speaker 3>He said, you ain't seen a Go Go concert? He said, Yo, wait,

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<v Speaker 3>GC this not I turned around. I changed my stuff up, bro.

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<v Speaker 3>I went up in there to get there early. Chuck

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<v Speaker 3>Brown burnt this shit down to the floor to the

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<v Speaker 3>point that it was madness. I'm talking about you want

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<v Speaker 3>to talk about you want to see a spiritual, like

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<v Speaker 3>like out of body experience. Play Go Go, Play Go

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<v Speaker 3>Go with twenty thousand black people in the spot and

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<v Speaker 3>white people that understand play it, and you're going to

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<v Speaker 3>see a whole, a whole kind of experiences that you

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<v Speaker 3>never seen. So then I ran. He got off. I

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<v Speaker 3>went backstage, started talking to him. I started telling him

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<v Speaker 3>how incredible his performance was. He started telling me how

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<v Speaker 3>he loves the show, he loves Lotty Dottie, he thinks

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<v Speaker 3>that what I'm doing is really unique. And then we

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<v Speaker 3>just became friends from eighty five all the way to

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<v Speaker 3>when he performed on the Capitol Lawn. He called me up.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't know that would be one of our last performances.

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<v Speaker 3>And I got on with him there and he was

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<v Speaker 3>such a beautiful spirit, and I looked at him like

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<v Speaker 3>I look at myself where I felt like he was.

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<v Speaker 3>He created something, and sometimes when a person creates something,

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<v Speaker 3>like you said quest, which was really deep, the person

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<v Speaker 3>who's the first person that created may not always be

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<v Speaker 3>the one that's acknowledged, you know. And I felt like,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to make sure that you acknowledged Chuck Brown.

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<v Speaker 3>When you hear Beyonce's joint, you know, the first joint

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<v Speaker 3>that she did with Crazy.

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<v Speaker 5>Rich Harrison, he always gonna put that go Go up.

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<v Speaker 3>Right right, like I want y'all to know, this is

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<v Speaker 3>the guy that did this, and this energy that y'all feeling,

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<v Speaker 3>this is the guy.

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<v Speaker 4>And I guess spiritually there was something.

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<v Speaker 3>And then the other thing is that Prince before he passed,

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<v Speaker 3>he was going to produce my next album and he

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<v Speaker 3>wanted me to do a live album and he loved

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<v Speaker 3>Go Go, so she did right right, So he wanted

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<v Speaker 3>me to do something. I think in this kind of

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<v Speaker 3>a way that I did it because it's live and

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<v Speaker 3>at the same time it's go go, and I didn't

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<v Speaker 3>know I was going to be putting it together like this,

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<v Speaker 3>but it worked out and let me.

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<v Speaker 5>Clear my throat. Though Doug like you already out of

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<v Speaker 5>your relationship with Go Go is like continue all day?

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<v Speaker 5>Can you talk about for a second, because I was

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<v Speaker 5>just catching up and watching that video earlier and I

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<v Speaker 5>was like, Yo, please tell me about this.

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<v Speaker 4>Video shoot with you biz DJ.

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<v Speaker 5>Cool like in this club. I know it's got to

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<v Speaker 5>be a story.

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<v Speaker 3>And Yo, I tell you the quick Cool told me like,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm coming to the video.

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<v Speaker 4>I pull up.

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<v Speaker 3>Cool said, hey, Dug, what's going on? No, Like, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't even know what he wants? He said, Yo, like

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<v Speaker 3>I know he want to do somebody. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't really know. He said, Yo, man, I need a

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<v Speaker 3>boss from you. Do you got him write there? Like like,

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<v Speaker 3>are you ready to do this now? I said, yeah, okay, Cool,

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<v Speaker 3>let's do it. He said, okay, Cool like no notice, no,

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<v Speaker 3>here's your part where you put your verse no, no nothing, no.

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<v Speaker 4>Se no nothing.

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<v Speaker 3>So after that, so he's and then he told me

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<v Speaker 3>later he said, well, you know, I'm gonna be honest

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<v Speaker 3>with you. I told you to do that because I

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<v Speaker 3>think you probably one of the only guys that could

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<v Speaker 3>really do that.

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<v Speaker 4>And don't make it seem like you're doing that, because

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<v Speaker 4>I mean it is DC.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we just started free styling and then like the

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<v Speaker 3>Tupac on there.

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<v Speaker 4>It was just something spiritually that made me say that.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, so that was a live song and video

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<v Speaker 5>at the same time. Y'all take the time.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, it was in Philly. What that's right?

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<v Speaker 2>It was it was at the Bahama Bay and Philadelphia.

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<v Speaker 3>He says it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, he says it, bro crazy crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>You know this, this is a legendary, legendary lesson.

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<v Speaker 5>And thank you for giving love to to to everybody

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<v Speaker 5>and go go in the song to because you didn't

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<v Speaker 5>just give love to Chuck. You gave love to the areas.

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<v Speaker 4>You gave love.

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<v Speaker 5>To to all the legends. So it was I just

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<v Speaker 5>want to I'm sorry, I'm mayor. I didn't mean to

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<v Speaker 5>cut you say that. I appreciate you so, thank you man.

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<v Speaker 3>Because he used to do play this only at night

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<v Speaker 3>and the way he would do it, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, it's I still feel like I did in

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<v Speaker 3>the beginning, that you still got You gotta follow your

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<v Speaker 3>spirit and it's not going to always be popular, and

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<v Speaker 3>sometimes you're doing things because they just supposed to be done.

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<v Speaker 3>I remember Prince told me when he wrote Kiss. He said,

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<v Speaker 3>when he wrote Kiss, he had to forget how to

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<v Speaker 3>make records, meaning he had to simplify everything. So when

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<v Speaker 3>you hear it, they kiss like he said, he stripped

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<v Speaker 3>it down right right, And when he stripped it down,

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<v Speaker 3>he said, it's because he had to go into a

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<v Speaker 3>space where he had to simplify things. And I feel

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<v Speaker 3>as an artist that you go into these spaces for

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<v Speaker 3>reasons and it sets you up for something else that

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<v Speaker 3>you're supposed to do.

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<v Speaker 4>But you gotta go.

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<v Speaker 3>There though, to get there, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know why.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know what connected me to make this Go

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<v Speaker 3>Go album, but I knew I had to make it.

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<v Speaker 4>I knew it was important.

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<v Speaker 3>And the brother who shot the album cover he called me.

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<v Speaker 3>And when he called me, it was a friend of

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<v Speaker 3>mine who would go and film me in different places

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<v Speaker 3>and stuff. And he has diabetes type too, And he

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<v Speaker 3>called me and he said, Dougie. His name is Bobby Gunn.

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<v Speaker 3>He said, Dougie, Yo, man, I know you into this

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<v Speaker 3>health thing, man, but I'm dealing with his diabetes and

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<v Speaker 3>I'm trying to make sure that I don't do something

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<v Speaker 3>that's gonna cause me to How many probably say, yo,

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<v Speaker 3>you got any suggestions? So I'm on the phone talking

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<v Speaker 3>to him about it, going through the whole diabetic conversation,

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<v Speaker 3>telling him, don't do this here. You like sodas drinker

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<v Speaker 3>zvia Zba is a sugar free soda and it's not

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<v Speaker 3>an asparteam. It hires Stevia and it is good. And

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<v Speaker 3>he said, oh, thank you, Doug, thank you, And I

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<v Speaker 3>hang up the phone with him. And he only called

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<v Speaker 3>me for that and I shared that one. He said,

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<v Speaker 3>but Doug, yo, I got some pictures I took and

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<v Speaker 3>I want to send them to you. And you know,

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<v Speaker 3>just some pictures I took a while ago. He sent

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<v Speaker 3>me the pictures. All of the pictures was of me

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<v Speaker 3>and Chuck Brown. And he didn't even know I was

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<v Speaker 3>making this song. He didn't even know I was making

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<v Speaker 3>the song. And then I looked at one.

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<v Speaker 4>Of the pictures. I said, Yo, this is crazy. This

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<v Speaker 4>is crazy. I called him.

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<v Speaker 3>I said, Yo, I just wrote a song called Chuck Brown.

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<v Speaker 3>What's the odds of you sending me this?

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<v Speaker 4>I said?

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<v Speaker 3>Can I use this shot? Could I use this shot?

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<v Speaker 3>And the shot that I made the album cover was

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<v Speaker 3>the shot that that brother gave to me.

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<v Speaker 4>So this is what I'm trying to explain sometime I

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<v Speaker 4>think things just kind of right right.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, so that's what the album represents to me.

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<v Speaker 3>And I appreciate y'all having me on here to talk

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<v Speaker 3>about it.

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<v Speaker 2>And brother, thank you kept y'all on a little long No, no,

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<v Speaker 2>we kept you man. We love it right. Yeah, we

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<v Speaker 2>lived for these episodes.

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<v Speaker 5>I almost gotta tell folks, and six hours Jimmy jam

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<v Speaker 5>you are right, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>This is all right. This is right up there with it.

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<v Speaker 1>No, for real, I want to thank you like your

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<v Speaker 1>your your wisdom and your life lessons and your lessons

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<v Speaker 1>on fear.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm definitely gonna apply that.

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<v Speaker 1>This is an awesome world's greatest entertainer. Yes, and unpaid

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<v Speaker 1>Bill and and Sugar Steve and like, yeah, yeah, this

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<v Speaker 1>is yo. I got one last question.

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<v Speaker 6>I've asked this if you've got time, okay, And I'm

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<v Speaker 6>only asking this because it's you, because I normally hate

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<v Speaker 6>when people ask this question.

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<v Speaker 2>For you. Who are your favorite season?

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<v Speaker 6>Not necessarily your top you ain't got to say your

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<v Speaker 6>top five whatever, but who are your face? And the

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<v Speaker 6>reason I ask is because you're probably one of the

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<v Speaker 6>first like real like vets that we've had on in

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<v Speaker 6>terms of being able to work with DJ Hollywood and

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<v Speaker 6>you know, I mean you're from that.

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<v Speaker 2>You know that first contrast straight up, so you know

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<v Speaker 2>what I mean.

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<v Speaker 6>So just to hear it from you from og like you,

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<v Speaker 6>who are who do you consider your top MC's.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, it's interesting the people that I consider top

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<v Speaker 3>MC's is a very interesting topic because I understand the

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<v Speaker 3>DNA of where different styles come from. So when I'm

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<v Speaker 3>looking at different people that other people like, I know

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<v Speaker 3>where that style was birthed and.

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<v Speaker 4>Why you like it or or how it evolved to

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<v Speaker 4>become that.

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<v Speaker 3>So DJ Hollywood is a very important piece of the

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<v Speaker 3>puzzle for me because there was no style.

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<v Speaker 4>He says, say, oh he wrote that.

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<v Speaker 3>He said, throw your hands in the air and wave

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<v Speaker 3>him like you just don't kid. He he was the

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<v Speaker 3>guy who was who jumped that off because he was

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<v Speaker 3>bringing celebration, you see. So that was an important piece

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<v Speaker 3>of the puzzle, and in the beginning it was one

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<v Speaker 3>of the most important pieces. And Curtis Blow got it

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<v Speaker 3>from him and loved bug Starsky told me that when

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<v Speaker 3>he asked him, I said, Yo, Love, who was the

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<v Speaker 3>first person you've seen do this?

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<v Speaker 4>Bro on that mic?

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<v Speaker 3>He sat there and said Hollywood. I turned around for real,

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<v Speaker 3>he said, Dougie, he said it was. He said, I

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<v Speaker 3>was sitting in the car as a kid and some

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<v Speaker 3>dude that had an eight track player in his car,

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<v Speaker 3>and Hollywood made the first mixtape on an eight track,

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<v Speaker 3>he said, with your play and play and play, he said,

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<v Speaker 3>he said, And I just sat there and I said,

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<v Speaker 3>I want to be like that.

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<v Speaker 4>I want to do that. So then you got you

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<v Speaker 4>got love. You got love.

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<v Speaker 3>But then you got busy b crowd Rockey right, and

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<v Speaker 3>they from ball with the ball and both of them

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<v Speaker 3>doing that. So you got this whole line. So Hollywood

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<v Speaker 3>is an important piece. Melle mel is an important piece.

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<v Speaker 3>It's an important piece. His style, not just the message,

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<v Speaker 3>just his whole confidence in the way that he brought

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<v Speaker 3>what he did Grandmaster Cas. He brought that clever, slick

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<v Speaker 3>thing that you like about King. And when you listen

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<v Speaker 3>in the mal, you like k r S. And then

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<v Speaker 3>you got mo D And when you got Mod, you

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<v Speaker 3>listening in the Mod, you hear him a rod kill

1:17:52.400 --> 1:17:58.519
<v Speaker 3>you hearing NOAs So the bloodline I learned directly from

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<v Speaker 3>the bloodline directly, and then and then while I learned that,

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<v Speaker 3>then then I had to carve out my space and

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<v Speaker 3>create this beatbox thing, which is a completely different dimension

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<v Speaker 3>from everything. So when people talk about MC's and who

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<v Speaker 3>is this and who's that, it's a little different from

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<v Speaker 3>me because it's.

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<v Speaker 4>The same about Chuck.

1:18:23.320 --> 1:18:27.080
<v Speaker 3>Because you like you like Rare Essence, then you like Chuck,

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<v Speaker 3>you like EU, then you like Chuck. Like whoever you

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<v Speaker 3>want to decide that you want to you better, you

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<v Speaker 3>gonna go back to Chuck.

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<v Speaker 4>You see what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 3>So even when you like like I know, I knew

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<v Speaker 3>James Brown, James Brown, and I'm very close to the family.

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<v Speaker 4>And James Brown liked me a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>And he used to tell me, son, read your Bible, Son,

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<v Speaker 3>read your Bible, and always take care of your teeth.

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<v Speaker 4>And then he said, and always take care of your feet.

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<v Speaker 1>These are that's that's that's a James that's a James

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<v Speaker 1>John classic right there.

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<v Speaker 3>Take care of your teeth and your feet.

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<v Speaker 2>You have the best teeth in hip hop.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait a minute, let me, let me let me ask

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<v Speaker 1>the opposite of Let me ask the opposite of fante,

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<v Speaker 1>because there's a lot of them. Who are your top

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<v Speaker 1>three beat boxers, not you? Who are your top three

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<v Speaker 1>beat boxers, and there's a lot to choose from now.

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<v Speaker 4>Right. I like rosell I was hoping.

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<v Speaker 5>I was wondering, Yo.

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<v Speaker 2>I forgot Roselle was in my group.

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<v Speaker 5>I was just.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even asked that. I didn't even ask that

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<v Speaker 1>fishing for a Roselle answer. I just straight forgot.

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<v Speaker 4>I know that name.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry, Roselle.

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<v Speaker 3>Look, I even did a record for rosel I did

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<v Speaker 3>one win him for a d J. Hawston be out

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<v Speaker 3>in Japan, And I said, yeah, let's do I think Rozelle.

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<v Speaker 3>I think scratch Man was just I mean, I mean

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<v Speaker 3>as far as being like like so authentic and real

1:20:15.040 --> 1:20:19.439
<v Speaker 3>and the way he sound. I just I so much

1:20:19.600 --> 1:20:22.759
<v Speaker 3>loved the way he sound. I mean I was always

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<v Speaker 3>so impressed with him, and and just out of a

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<v Speaker 3>you know, to me, it's really I mean those two

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<v Speaker 3>and Kenny X, I like a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>I forgot about Kennedy. Yes, shout out to Kenny X.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you ever battled Buffy at all? Like, have you

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<v Speaker 1>guys ever been on the stage together and did something?

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<v Speaker 3>Or we were supposed to at Brighton High School in

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<v Speaker 3>eighty three or eighty four. I'll send you a flyer

1:20:50.880 --> 1:20:54.559
<v Speaker 3>and they put us on the Flyer dst was there,

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<v Speaker 3>Red Alert was supposed to be there, and this was

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<v Speaker 3>before there was records, and they was calling him just go.

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<v Speaker 4>Three and uh.

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<v Speaker 3>And I went down there because I didn't even know

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<v Speaker 3>that they had to set up for me to do that.

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<v Speaker 3>So I came in there and I seen him and

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<v Speaker 3>I said, y'all want to do this tonight? And I've

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<v Speaker 3>got said that. I said, so I'm I'm aa battle

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<v Speaker 3>him and then I'm gonna take y'all two out. And

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<v Speaker 3>you know, because because because it was it was fun.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not like we was fighting. It was just about you.

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<v Speaker 3>And then afterwards it never happened. And then we did

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<v Speaker 3>a couple of shows together and we never did and

1:21:34.960 --> 1:21:38.000
<v Speaker 3>I never really had any interest in doing it anymore

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<v Speaker 3>because I mean, Buffy was such a good guy and

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<v Speaker 3>such a nice person that it was like, Yo, man,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't feel good about battling this guy, you know

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<v Speaker 3>what I mean? He has such a beautiful spirit. And

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<v Speaker 3>anybody that knew Buffy knew he was just a nice person.

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<v Speaker 3>And me and MARKI D got into a little bit

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<v Speaker 3>of an argument one time because when the show came out,

1:22:08.320 --> 1:22:12.080
<v Speaker 3>he was very he he was looking at like you know,

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<v Speaker 3>like he was the one, he was the voice of

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<v Speaker 3>the group, and he looked wanted to challenge me. And

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<v Speaker 3>then after a while, you know, he was barking a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit and going at it. And then I said, yo,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't even have to beat box. Do you want

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<v Speaker 3>to battle rhyming? Do you want to do that? And

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<v Speaker 3>he just didn't want he didn't want to do that.

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<v Speaker 3>And so after that, because I come from a battle era,

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<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean, from the foundation of battle.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I told you, I'm on the side of the

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<v Speaker 3>stage when Moji and Busy beat Battle.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm the only kid that can say I was there.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like fourteen, I was I didn't even supposed

1:22:50.600 --> 1:22:52.680
<v Speaker 3>to be in there, and I'm on the side of

1:22:52.720 --> 1:22:55.040
<v Speaker 3>the stage while that's going down.

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<v Speaker 4>So I was at that battle.

1:22:57.080 --> 1:23:00.000
<v Speaker 3>I was at the battle with Cold Crushed Battle and Fantastic,

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<v Speaker 3>you know. So the things that I've learned from from

1:23:05.840 --> 1:23:08.280
<v Speaker 3>just being in that area. And then I was in

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<v Speaker 3>that contest in eighty one, in the amateur contest.

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<v Speaker 4>So that's the way we came up.

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<v Speaker 3>You had to battle, but then as you grow, you evolved,

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<v Speaker 3>so it wasn't about battling.

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<v Speaker 4>And then me and Marky d became the best of friends.

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<v Speaker 3>We would hang out live and then what happened is

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<v Speaker 3>when Buffy passed, I did Tom join a cruise and

1:23:33.280 --> 1:23:36.679
<v Speaker 3>I wanted boys on there, and I said, we got

1:23:36.680 --> 1:23:38.840
<v Speaker 3>to get them on this cruise. So I got them on.

1:23:39.439 --> 1:23:41.479
<v Speaker 3>And when I got him on, I said, Yo, let's

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<v Speaker 3>do bitter to stick them and let's do it. Wow,

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<v Speaker 3>that's right, And we did and it was me Kourokski

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<v Speaker 3>and Prince Marky did and we took pictures together and man,

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<v Speaker 3>those are my brothers.

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<v Speaker 4>Man, it was.

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<v Speaker 5>He's gone too sus a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, ok, brother, God, thank you. Look, if you ever

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<v Speaker 1>you must open up another restaurant and share that cornbread recipe.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's a whole other episode. Doug has the worlds.

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<v Speaker 1>When he had his restaurant in Harlem, he had the

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<v Speaker 1>world's best corn bread.

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<v Speaker 2>He look, this was yeah, this was three five years ago. Anyway, Doug,

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<v Speaker 2>I think, if you're doing.

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<v Speaker 3>This, look and then you yo. When he said somebody said,

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<v Speaker 3>everybody said your man, your man, quest said your man

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<v Speaker 3>outside of Lottie, Dottie Shure whatever. One of the most

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<v Speaker 3>unbelievable contributions he haven't made the world is this corn bread?

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<v Speaker 1>And look, I was sending interns from the tonight show.

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<v Speaker 1>I was sending interns to the I was sending girl's name,

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<v Speaker 1>Ashley the Harlor.

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<v Speaker 2>Corn bread corn bread.

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<v Speaker 4>They call it crack corn bread in the hall.

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<v Speaker 2>Ass it's worth breaking your diet for.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I may, I may. We may have to do

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<v Speaker 3>that one day. Just be just a little piece hot.

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<v Speaker 1>Hot yeah, just one one, one cheat day. Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>for doing this episode.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, this is the It's illi it. Thank you.

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