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Speaker 1: Questlove Supreme is a production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: This is Part two. Doug describes a journey to becoming

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Speaker 2: hip hop star and one of the world's greatest entertainers.

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Speaker 2: I really like this episode and you will too. I

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Speaker 2: have a question about the Oh my God record.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 1: I know that we're in a whole different time period now,

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Speaker 1: So having grown up in Reagan's America, which was heavily Christian, conservative,

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Speaker 1: more you know, moral majority, all those things, I can

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Speaker 1: see I had a different opinion of it when I

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Speaker 1: first heard it, and of course thirty years later, opinions

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Speaker 1: have changed, and we now live in a time period

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Speaker 1: where like we believe that you know, in his choice

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Speaker 1: and whatnot. But you know, even before Common did retrospect

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Speaker 1: for life, I remember like how big the abortion song

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Speaker 1: was on your first album. So what was the what

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Speaker 1: was the what was the because the thing is like

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Speaker 1: on that on that debut record of yours. The two

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Speaker 1: things that my two takeaways was definitely you know, play

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Speaker 1: this only at night really truly could have been given

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Speaker 1: Moments in Love a run for its money.

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Speaker 2: But like the first New.

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Speaker 1: Jack kind of you know, slow join right, and I

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Speaker 1: just at that point I never heard a rapper really

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Speaker 1: get topical about anything that wasn't just street conditions or

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Speaker 1: you know, violence on you know, like day to day violence.

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Speaker 1: Like you just never heard the rapper rapping about abortion?

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Speaker 1: What what prompted you? What prompted you to even go there?

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Speaker 4: Wow?

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Speaker 2: You know because back then.

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Speaker 3: It was you yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well well I'm

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Speaker 3: gonna tell you two things. And that's a beautiful question.

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Speaker 3: I like how you slipped that, And I like how

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Speaker 3: you did that.

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Speaker 4: That was so stupid, and I haven't forgot about.

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Speaker 3: You know, we get to trust me, no, no, no,

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Speaker 3: but look what happened was, as you know hip hop,

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Speaker 3: the expression is raw.

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Speaker 4: All the Way to Heaven is the first song ever

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Speaker 4: dedicated to God.

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Speaker 3: That's before Jesus walk, that's before anybody ever did it.

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Speaker 3: It was a chance, it was. All the Way to

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Speaker 3: Heaven was created because we were happy. We were happy

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Speaker 3: about what God has given to us. So so when

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Speaker 3: I'm saying different, can.

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Speaker 1: I can I just briefly issue if you for one

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Speaker 1: second and maybe you could double this answer, because I

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Speaker 1: swear to God I would I would have killed myself

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Speaker 1: if I didn't ask this question.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of All the Way to Heaven can you please.

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Speaker 1: I think I heard you explain this once on a

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Speaker 1: radio show back in like eighty six, and I.

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Speaker 2: Could not never find this quote.

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Speaker 1: Can you explain the the the the the logic you

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Speaker 1: had with creating the show as far as its spiritual element,

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Speaker 1: Like I think I heard you say one time where

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Speaker 1: you like, so no, no, no, you mentioned something about like like,

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Speaker 1: oh my god, like he purposely chows, oh my god,

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Speaker 1: sound body with a six six six six minutes thing,

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Speaker 1: even like is he real?

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Speaker 2: Like it's I thought I read this. I don't know

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Speaker 2: if I dreamed or.

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Speaker 4: Not if you say is it real? Fast? Right? So

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Speaker 4: that's that's right.

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Speaker 3: That was how and and oh my god, you know

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Speaker 3: and kind of like you know a lot of things

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Speaker 3: for me hopping through dreams, Like even the show came

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Speaker 3: to me in a dream. It was like I woke

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Speaker 3: up and something told me to do it, the same

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Speaker 3: way I just did this new project about Chuck Brown.

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Speaker 3: It's like this is happened to me, No, but it happens.

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Speaker 3: It's a real interesting way that artists create. So what

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Speaker 3: I did, oh my God is a real I told

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Speaker 3: Barer and Will and they was like, how you're going

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Speaker 3: to have us cut these two things at the same time.

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Speaker 4: I said, trust me, it's going to work.

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Speaker 3: And when they started cutting it, it just became that

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Speaker 3: when it was saying six minutes, it was worshiping the devil,

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Speaker 3: but it wasn't none of that. It was just that

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Speaker 4: I'm more of a rhyme style list.

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Speaker 3: So when I'm doing something, it's never gonna be what

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Speaker 3: you believe it should be. I'm not trying to be

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Speaker 4: My main focus. So six minutes, six minutes, six minutes,

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Speaker 3: It's it became kind of like or like no no, no, no,

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Speaker 4: No no no no no. See, like it's not a rhyme.

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Speaker 4: And then and then if you're think about the show

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Speaker 4: when it's going on and in the back you can hear.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 4: But because because all of these different pieces.

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Speaker 3: Kind of like it was more it was changing the

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Speaker 3: way and a hip hop artists were to approach things.

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Speaker 3: I was changing what you considered to be hip hop.

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Speaker 3: I wanted you to expand. I wanted you to think

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Speaker 3: that you can't. You don't need just one DJ. You

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Speaker 3: can use two, you can use three. I wanted you

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Speaker 3: to think about listen to the rom it's all because

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Speaker 3: put a song in a rock me shall like, let's

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Speaker 3: do something different, because you gotta be flashed to rock

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Speaker 3: with and I'm known for the not like, let's let's

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Speaker 3: play at the end of the song. I'm doing as

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Speaker 3: you can see most definitely, I'm not rhyming.

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Speaker 4: I'm talking to you. We are like like it's it's

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Speaker 4: it's changing.

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Speaker 1: A spiritual song is like the show hip hop's first

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Speaker 1: spiritual song or with see.

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Speaker 3: I think that in its own way, organically it probably

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Speaker 4: And I wouldn't. I wouldn't.

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't say that I consciously did everything that way.

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Speaker 3: I just feel like I was driven to do that,

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Speaker 3: you know, and then all the way to heaven, me

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Speaker 3: and Rick was going to do together. So when I

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Speaker 3: made on my guard, I was in a very I

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Speaker 4: But I also felt all the way to Heaven was important.

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Speaker 3: Because I felt like, how can I go from this

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Speaker 3: I went to the studio at my friend's house. I

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Speaker 4: So I'm thankful.

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Speaker 3: And even though me and Rick got our issues or

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Speaker 3: things wasn't working out, I'm still thankful. So then I

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Speaker 3: also felt that a song like abortion, the baby on

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Speaker 3: that record is being born, and that's Banard's right, that's

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Speaker 3: Banard writes Son. He went into the room, he was

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Speaker 3: I said recorded, I said recorded, I want that on

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Speaker 3: my record. He said, I'm coming back with it. He

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Speaker 4: Now why did I do that?

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Speaker 3: I did that because I felt at that particular time

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Speaker 4: This is my son. You know, I'm here because of this.

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Speaker 3: So I felt that that topic and that thought process

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Speaker 3: I had a girlfriend and that happened, and when it happened,

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Speaker 3: it affected me. And when it affected me, I wrote

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Speaker 3: Nothing is about people smoking crack and things happening in

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Speaker 4: I wrote about it. Play this only at night was

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Speaker 3: Harlem was like night of the living bass heads on steroids, bro.

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Speaker 4: So I wrote about it.

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Speaker 3: So the music was was was explaining what was going on,

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Speaker 4: Needed to give it to him, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: And even with loving every minute, I think that was

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Speaker 3: my first introduction to seeing Chuck Brown live at the

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Speaker 3: just once again. But see, it goes back to honesty.

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Speaker 3: I know that honesty. You know, honesty is not always appreciated,

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Speaker 3: I tell people truth out of season can be destructive.

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Speaker 4: You know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: But then there's a fearlessness in telling truth. So when

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Speaker 3: of Bots, I'm like, man, I.

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Speaker 4: Know they hate me for this song.

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Speaker 3: I know they are, I said, but I said, but

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Speaker 3: you know what I said, But yoe, man, this is

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Speaker 3: where I'm not with it.

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Speaker 4: This is how I feel.

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Speaker 5: I appreciate your honesty. And also, you know, sometimes as

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Speaker 5: fans we have to allow our artists to evolve, especially

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Speaker 1: Right right, I mean, back back in eighty five. That

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Speaker 1: and again I got it. This the intro to the show. Right,

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Speaker 1: was your inspiration behind that? The whiz the gold, yellow Green?

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Speaker 4: Absolutely? I knew, absolutely no question.

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Speaker 3: And when I did it, I said, I said, I said,

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Speaker 3: but I wanted to be better. I said, I want

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Speaker 3: to feel that. I said, but I used to love

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Speaker 3: when Richard prob Gold is the I changed my gold

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Speaker 3: color colored. Now children, when every time you get received right?

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Speaker 4: And so after I said, I wanted to be big,

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Speaker 3: And one of the things that I felt with a

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Speaker 3: I felt like, if a song is coming on, it

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Speaker 4: Me someplace, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: So the show was the first record that I was

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Speaker 3: able to get out all of my ideas the way

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Speaker 4: To express my ideas to the fullest, it was.

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Speaker 3: Like I'm gonna put up my own money and I'm

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Speaker 3: gonna express my ideas my own way, and that horn

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Speaker 2: Well even there period, and if you look at it,

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Speaker 4: Why did you hook up with us? So I came

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Speaker 3: I came to Hank Shockley with rising to the top,

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Speaker 3: And then I said, I want to put chords at

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Speaker 4: They said, Yo, people are gonna be coming.

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Speaker 3: Out with their smoking jackets. Yo.

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Speaker 2: Rising to the Top is the first.

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Speaker 6: That's the first forty five that I bought, like with

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Speaker 4: Listened to.

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Speaker 2: That is. I love that song, man, I love that record.

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Speaker 5: Why do I The first time I seen like Dougie,

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Speaker 5: do your dance to that song? Right?

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Speaker 4: That's yeah.

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Speaker 3: Look, that's when I introduced that's but because I because

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Speaker 2: Field even had the White House. I'm cool to see

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Speaker 4: Yo. Let me tell you quest.

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Speaker 3: I was up there taking a picture with the first

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Speaker 4: She said, I just want to ask you one question.

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Speaker 4: Am I doing the Dougie?

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Speaker 3: Yes? Because yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I said, I said,

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Speaker 4: I never seen it done better.

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Speaker 5: And you want to go, You've been to the White

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Speaker 3: I'm right right right because I was doing I got

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Speaker 4: And then I just started to do the song.

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Speaker 3: So you know that's what it's all about, you know

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Speaker 5: That made me think when you said you was talking

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Speaker 3: I went hard on him, meaning just not not hard

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Speaker 3: But you know, I'm hoping that what happened to him

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Speaker 4: And everybody loved this. This was such a bright spirit,

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Speaker 3: So to see him leave at such a you know,

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Speaker 5: That's why I'm glad that these two brothers on this show,

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Speaker 3: So I love it. You love it.

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Speaker 4: I love it.

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Speaker 3: When I heard y'all talk, and I was loving it, bro,

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Speaker 4: I know it's about me, but it's really about y'all.

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Speaker 3: I was loving it, and I like. I like how

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Speaker 4: We believe, we believe.

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Speaker 3: That we got to go through this by ourselves.

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Speaker 4: And we don't. We don't.

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Speaker 3: Sometimes sometimes you need your man to check you a

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Speaker 3: But I just think that diabetes is such a bizarre

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Speaker 4: Bull it takes you out.

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Speaker 2: Where's your number one?

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Speaker 5: What's your number? With your number?

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Speaker 3: Steve?

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Speaker 5: See he see what? You don't know why you have

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Speaker 4: The two black ones.

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Speaker 2: That one surprisingly nah. But Doug, you are the You're

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Speaker 6: Like you are, I mean, like yo man, like just

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah man.

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Speaker 6: The regimen or something like what's your what's your diet? Like,

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Speaker 3: Well, my day to day is I usually try to

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Speaker 4: See this is the problem.

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Speaker 2: How here you go?

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Speaker 3: Walking is and it's a fascinating exercise because it actually

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Speaker 4: To figure out different things. If you're listening to music.

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Speaker 3: Or whatever way you want to do it, if you're

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Speaker 3: I think we got lost with that one. I think

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Speaker 3: that's the one that everybody's failing on, or a lot

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Speaker 3: of people because we so goal oriented that we want

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Speaker 3: we want this, we want that that we start to

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Speaker 3: just turns into something else when you don't get no rest.

446
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:18,120
Speaker 3: Number two is your nutrition. You gotta eat to live,

447
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:21,600
Speaker 3: not live to eat. You gotta think about what you eat.

448
00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:24,680
Speaker 3: And if you got sugar, you gotta check that sugar.

449
00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:27,720
Speaker 3: You have to so that you can gauge your numbers.

450
00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:29,119
Speaker 4: If you like something.

451
00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:33,000
Speaker 3: That's a a starch, ain't saying you can't have it,

452
00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:34,800
Speaker 3: but maybe you gotta earn it.

453
00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:37,760
Speaker 4: Maybe you gotta maybe, maybe you gotta earn that.

454
00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:41,600
Speaker 3: Let's earn it, let's run it right, and then when

455
00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:44,080
Speaker 3: you do it, maybe maybe you earned half of that.

456
00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:46,800
Speaker 3: You know, if that's if that's a game you want

457
00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:50,480
Speaker 3: to play. But you can't just have that starch. Don't walk,

458
00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:55,600
Speaker 3: don't run, be up all night and then drink sweet juices,

459
00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:59,840
Speaker 3: or be you setting yourself up for something that you

460
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:03,359
Speaker 3: I have no idea. It's crazy. And then the third one,

461
00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:06,520
Speaker 3: it's some exercise. But the exercise don't have to be

462
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:09,720
Speaker 3: that you're working out like you trying to be, you.

463
00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:12,720
Speaker 4: Know, a football player. You know what I'm saying. It

464
00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:15,640
Speaker 4: don't have to be that crazy. If you're walking, you're

465
00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:18,800
Speaker 4: getting on a treadmill. You want to walk in your body,

466
00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:21,080
Speaker 4: that's it that's it.

467
00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:24,080
Speaker 3: And then after you do it and you start seeing

468
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:26,800
Speaker 3: how you feel, you're going to be happy to do

469
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:30,280
Speaker 3: it because it's making you happy. And then while you're

470
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:34,120
Speaker 3: doing that, you rest, You're energetic. You know, you got

471
00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:37,159
Speaker 3: eight hours sleep or seven hours whatever you need, and

472
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:39,919
Speaker 3: then you ate something that gave you a nice amount

473
00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:42,159
Speaker 3: of energy, and then you go out there.

474
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:42,600
Speaker 4: And work out.

475
00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:45,400
Speaker 3: Yo, you did all of the things that you could

476
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:49,400
Speaker 3: do to survive on this planet a little bit more.

477
00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:51,240
Speaker 4: But if you just be reckless.

478
00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:59,359
Speaker 1: Slight confession time, slight confession. I love it, No, definitely.

479
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:05,760
Speaker 1: I When it got colder, you know, well, okay, so

480
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:06,280
Speaker 1: so the deal.

481
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:09,640
Speaker 2: The deal is basically getting dark at four o'clock.

482
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 3: Yeah.

483
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:12,560
Speaker 1: When Rick Ruven was on the show, he made me

484
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:17,280
Speaker 1: he was my accountability partner, and you know, I was

485
00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:20,720
Speaker 1: doing like ten thousand steps a day every day, and

486
00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:24,200
Speaker 1: then around mid September I started falling off. Now, when

487
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:26,879
Speaker 1: I hear something five, when I hear from five different

488
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:30,320
Speaker 1: sources the same message, then I'm like, all right, man,

489
00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:33,119
Speaker 1: you gotta get so you're officially it started this morning

490
00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:33,480
Speaker 1: with my.

491
00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:37,080
Speaker 2: Mom, Are you walking like you to me?

492
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:38,040
Speaker 4: Are you lying to me?

493
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:40,119
Speaker 3: Grace?

494
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:46,680
Speaker 1: Same thing like literally four people got on me about okay, now,

495
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:50,240
Speaker 1: like how you doing. You're still sticking to your plan

496
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:52,320
Speaker 1: or you you've fallen off a little bit in the

497
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:55,240
Speaker 1: in the winter, And I was like, you know, I'll

498
00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:59,080
Speaker 1: get back on it next week, all right, cool, I

499
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:02,000
Speaker 1: gotta get back my ten thousand steps a day join

500
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:05,199
Speaker 1: because I felt I went from ten thousand util like

501
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:07,639
Speaker 1: four thousand school. I'll just do like ten blocks and

502
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:10,919
Speaker 1: walk back home. So right, I gotta get back on

503
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:11,359
Speaker 1: my join.

504
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:12,240
Speaker 4: See.

505
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:15,240
Speaker 3: And that's how the Creator work because all of us

506
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:16,640
Speaker 3: are saying things to you.

507
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:20,200
Speaker 4: And I always say this now too, don't get caught

508
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 4: up in the messenger.

509
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:26,239
Speaker 3: Just hear the message message because you may not you

510
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:29,440
Speaker 3: if you get caught up in the messenger, you may

511
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:32,440
Speaker 3: not hear that message. And that message can be coming

512
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:34,960
Speaker 3: from a little baby, It could be coming from a mother.

513
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:37,240
Speaker 3: It can be coming from a person that you don't like,

514
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 3: but they said something that was really important for you

515
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:43,960
Speaker 3: to hear. If you got five different people. Sometimes and

516
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:45,240
Speaker 3: we get caught up on how to.

517
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 4: Create this community.

518
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:49,639
Speaker 3: The Creator communicates through us and he says things to

519
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:53,959
Speaker 3: us to say to somebody that maybe if that person

520
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:57,800
Speaker 3: can bypass who's the person saying it and just hear

521
00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 3: the message. A lot can come out of that, because

522
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 3: what's the odds of me having this conversation with y'all

523
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 3: right now on this and it has nothing to do

524
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:13,960
Speaker 3: for what we're talking about. You see what I'm saying,

525
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 3: But it has everything to do for what we're talking about.

526
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:21,880
Speaker 3: The brother on here with diabetes, or me talking about

527
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:26,040
Speaker 3: how I've seen it with biz, or you watch so

528
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:30,119
Speaker 3: many of us, so many of us lose ourselves or

529
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,320
Speaker 3: pass away transition just.

530
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:36,720
Speaker 4: Because we don't make little, minor adjustments. It don't have

531
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,960
Speaker 4: to be extreme. It's like I always.

532
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 3: Say, if if a person does a little, they don't

533
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:44,600
Speaker 3: even have to really do a lot. But if you

534
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 3: just stay consistent at it and if you just keep this, yeah, man,

535
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:51,960
Speaker 3: like nobody ain't trying to make you. I'm not trying

536
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 3: to make you work out to where you know you

537
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 3: pass out.

538
00:28:56,600 --> 00:29:00,960
Speaker 4: But you know you know you got it ass your ass.

539
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 4: You gotta move it. You gotta move it, man.

540
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 1: I do want to get key parts of your career

541
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 1: out before we run out of time, which.

542
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 2: We gotta talk about. There's a lot we gotta talk about.

543
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 1: Wait, wait, wait, the Hammer, We're gonna do Yeah, I

544
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 1: was gonna say, we gotta talk about do what I

545
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 1: Gotta do?

546
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 4: Right right right? Well all right then yeah, yeah we're

547
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 4: gon We're going to We're going to it.

548
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, what was it?

549
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 1: What was the decision behind like what the key give

550
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 1: us the atmosphere or or or or what it was

551
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:42,800
Speaker 1: like under the umbrella of Busted Productions with Hammer Beautiful

552
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 1: doing what I Gotta Do great really should have been

553
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:47,120
Speaker 1: way bigger for you.

554
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 4: But yeah, well another great lesson what happened with that

555
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:55,040
Speaker 4: project is I felt that when I came out with

556
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:58,719
Speaker 4: World's Greatest Entertainer, I felt really good about my album.

557
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 4: I felt that that album was made in a way

558
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 4: where I was trying to show people different dimensions about,

559
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 4: you know, my growth and about hip hop. Like when

560
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 4: I did Africa, and when I went to Africa in

561
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:14,800
Speaker 4: eighty seven, hip hop wasn't in Africa. I was the

562
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 4: first dude to run over there, you know what I mean.

563
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 4: I was in Senegal, the car, Gambia, Gory Island. I

564
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:24,240
Speaker 4: wrote the song over there. Yeah that's what Africa. That

565
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:28,960
Speaker 4: last song on World's Greatest Entertainer called Africa. Heavyd used

566
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 4: to love that song, and Rod Kim loved that song.

567
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 3: But what happened is that I felt that the label

568
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:38,240
Speaker 3: really at that point didn't get my vision when I

569
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:41,720
Speaker 3: first started with him, and the thing happened with me

570
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:44,200
Speaker 3: and Rick, I think it took some steam out of

571
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:47,280
Speaker 3: him and he started trying to figure it out. But

572
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 3: Rizzo to the top of such a great record, cut

573
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:52,240
Speaker 3: that zero. I felt on this Trump could have done

574
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:55,400
Speaker 3: a lot better. I think people slept on that. A

575
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:57,080
Speaker 3: lot of people liked to guess, So it was a

576
00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 3: lot of different things that I didn't feel my label God,

577
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 3: which I think a lot of us felt at points

578
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 3: in our career. So I signed with Dick Scott Management,

579
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:12,960
Speaker 3: who was managing New Kids on the Block, and he

580
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 3: would fund me to go to the studio and make

581
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 3: some records. And while I was doing that, Hammer and

582
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 3: his brother heard I was no longer I was looking

583
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:27,960
Speaker 3: to get out of Reality Records. So, long story short,

584
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 3: I got with his brother, Louis Barrell. Lewis didn't know

585
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 3: that reggae was coming. I was telling him, I said, Yo,

586
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 3: reggae is on fire, bro, But he was feeling like

587
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 3: that don't mean nothing, because I'm getting this. You can't

588
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:45,480
Speaker 3: touch you know, can't touch this money. And Hammer's in

589
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 3: the stratosphere, and so there was a beef between the

590
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 3: East and the West Coast. So I felt that if

591
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 3: me and Hammer got together and I was able to

592
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 3: bring what I bring to the table and he keeps

593
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 3: doing his thing, this would show a union between us

594
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 3: where this beef between East and West.

595
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:10,960
Speaker 4: Coast wouldn't even really be there. Because Tim Dogg was making.

596
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 2: You know, al We's album was.

597
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 4: Right right, and I wasn't about that.

598
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 3: So they paid close to maybe like one point two

599
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:22,720
Speaker 3: one point three to get me out of the deal.

600
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 3: So when they got me out of the deal, they say, yo,

601
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 3: I just want to be able to put at least

602
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 3: one or two songs on the album. And I said, okay,

603
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 3: no problem, and they said I was telling them reggae.

604
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 4: So we was up there working it out.

605
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 3: And what happened is I went to Jamaica and I

606
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 3: went to go do sun Splash and I was doing

607
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 3: dance all night. I don't know if y'all know about

608
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 3: sun Splash. Yeah, I forgot him on it right right.

609
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 4: So I'm so I'm like.

610
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 3: The first guy to ever perform on dance tall night

611
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 3: in Jamaica, which was unheard of.

612
00:32:58,120 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 2: You might want you retimidated.

613
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 3: No, no, look that audience is tough, yo, that audience

614
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 3: is tougher than Apollo.

615
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 2: It's how did you again? I know your whole no

616
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:13,200
Speaker 2: fear thing, but yeah, yeah, well.

617
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 4: I felt I felt like I felt my.

618
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 3: Energy was stronger than theirs. And then I also had

619
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 3: Papa Son who we was doing records together. I mean no,

620
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 3: we was performing together. So when I'm performing with him

621
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 3: on dance hall, and then the other thing is sometimes

622
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:36,719
Speaker 3: less is more and more is less, you know, because

623
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:39,720
Speaker 3: sometimes you're doing too much. So I felt like if

624
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 3: I give them little samples of what I do, it'll

625
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 3: make them appreciate it more than me trying to give

626
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 3: them a whole concert.

627
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 4: So I got on.

628
00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 3: They accepted it, blew up, but bloke gunshots all night.

629
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 3: After that was over, I got back on the plane

630
00:33:57,960 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 3: and came back and I was doing something at how

631
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 3: And when I got back, Hammer's boy edited the video,

632
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 3: did all of these different things with it. And then

633
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 3: when he did it, it was the same guy that

634
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 3: edit Hammer's video. So when he let the song out,

635
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 3: a lot of people was looking at the marching band

636
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:19,359
Speaker 3: and all of it at the Battle of the Band thing,

637
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 3: and they thought that it was like we was trying

638
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:23,280
Speaker 3: to make a hammer video.

639
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:25,440
Speaker 2: Oh okay, you see.

640
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:25,880
Speaker 4: What I'm saying.

641
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:31,759
Speaker 3: So I said, it's the true story too. I said, yo, bro,

642
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 3: why did you edit the video and let it out

643
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 3: without me being able to look at the video acknowledge

644
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 3: what it is because I read alert in there, Curtis

645
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:43,399
Speaker 3: blowing there.

646
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:46,239
Speaker 4: They cut all of the different elements that would give

647
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:50,359
Speaker 4: it the authenticity of the East Coast and showing that love.

648
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 3: And then when they say they said, man, yo, we

649
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:55,800
Speaker 3: was just doing so I felt like the respect factor

650
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:59,399
Speaker 3: was not as high as my respect was for him

651
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:01,240
Speaker 3: because I guess he was trying to go in there.

652
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:02,280
Speaker 4: Right when it dropped.

653
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 3: Capital dropped him and the label went bankrupt, so the

654
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 3: album never came out. So that album never came out.

655
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:18,400
Speaker 3: The single was coming out, and I'm thinking now as.

656
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 2: I'm doing what I got to do album.

657
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:22,400
Speaker 4: And it never can't.

658
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 3: It can't Like Capitol was letting it out and then

659
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 3: they shut everything down because yeah, you got the album.

660
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 6: I had to tape. Uh this was this was my

661
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 6: stepdad before he passed. Yeah, he had to tape because

662
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 6: my joint on there. I used to rhun was the

663
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 6: if I was your man joint because you was curious. Yeah,

664
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 6: so you know what I mean? That was my record.

665
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 6: But uh yeah, man, no that record it came out

666
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 6: like you know.

667
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I'm I'm gonna tell you in regards to

668
00:35:55,800 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 3: when Capital Capitol dropped Busted Records and when he dropped

669
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:05,719
Speaker 3: Busted Records, whatever bust it had or whatever busted on.

670
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 4: Busted was cut Busted was cut off. Yeah, bust it

671
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 4: was busting. And so then I left and.

672
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 3: When I and when I left, I had to you know,

673
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:22,840
Speaker 3: I had to rebuild the credibility because people was feeling

674
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 3: like I was trying to sell out. So that wasn't

675
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:31,360
Speaker 3: a problem for me because I built my career before record.

676
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 3: So I went back in the street and started to

677
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:36,799
Speaker 3: kind of see what was going on. I seen PM doing,

678
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 3: PM Doing was hanging out at the club. We were

679
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 3: both going to see Prince, so we went to see

680
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:44,920
Speaker 3: I seen him on my way out. It's funny, I

681
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 3: didn't even think about this. I was seeing him walking out.

682
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 3: He said, dumb yo, Man, I love yourself. You're doing

683
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:51,400
Speaker 3: anything else?

684
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 4: I said, yeah, man, I'm getting ready to come.

685
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:56,359
Speaker 3: I got some ideas, he said, Yo, man, my label man,

686
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:58,839
Speaker 3: I think that you know, maybe I should introduce you to.

687
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,400
Speaker 4: This gotch You shrinking right? He said, I think you

688
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:03,399
Speaker 4: know him. I think you know him. So I said,

689
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 4: what's his name? He's his name is John? He said, really,

690
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 4: I said, let me let me see.

691
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:07,600
Speaker 3: If I know him.

692
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:10,920
Speaker 4: I went downtown to G Street, right, I'm not. I

693
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 4: go in there and I walk in.

694
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:16,839
Speaker 3: This was my tour guy in nineteen eighty five when

695
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:20,360
Speaker 3: I went overseas for perform to perform.

696
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:22,239
Speaker 4: The show on Top of the Pops.

697
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 3: This guy is the guy who took me all through

698
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 3: London and now he got a deal with Chris Blackwell.

699
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:34,360
Speaker 3: So then after that I sat there. He said, Dougie,

700
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 3: I always wanted to do something with you. Do you

701
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 3: got anything? I said, I got these three ideas, I said,

702
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:42,279
Speaker 3: and I think I'm ready to let him out as

703
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:45,360
Speaker 3: soon as possible because I need to make sure that

704
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 3: people do not misunderstand what happened. So then that's when

705
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 3: I came up with day right and Free You did Freaks?

706
00:37:54,719 --> 00:38:01,720
Speaker 2: Yes where years old? Like where is he's.

707
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 4: Still rock with me? He's still rock with me?

708
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 1: But does he ever, I imagine that he must sound

709
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:09,480
Speaker 1: like mad lion right now.

710
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 5: Now that's funny air, but that's true. Though he can't.

711
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:20,919
Speaker 4: Say no, no, no no. But but he sounds good.

712
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 3: It sounds like he mature, but it don't sound like

713
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 3: he sounds really good and he sounds like his energy

714
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 3: is still the same.

715
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:32,279
Speaker 4: And when we perform, it's a serious situation.

716
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:37,799
Speaker 3: But that song, that song, that song right there when

717
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:40,480
Speaker 3: I when I came back from Jamaica, that's when I

718
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:42,320
Speaker 3: made that beat because.

719
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 5: You told you what I'm saying, I feel like reggae

720
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:45,240
Speaker 5: is coming.

721
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 4: You told him. I tried to tell him. I swear

722
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 4: I tried to tell him, you know.

723
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 3: But look they was living in you know, they had

724
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 3: I can't touch this money, so they wasn't touching it.

725
00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:57,759
Speaker 3: They wasn't.

726
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:07,800
Speaker 1: Can you can you talk about your your relationship with

727
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:11,319
Speaker 1: with with Prince? There is Oh my god, Yeah, you

728
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:17,319
Speaker 1: did a long apprenticeship. Uh during that time period at

729
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 1: least three to four the five years, I think almost

730
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:23,760
Speaker 1: like you know, to see a Prince concert, you knew

731
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:26,920
Speaker 1: somewhere you were coming, Like so how.

732
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:30,799
Speaker 4: An apprenticeship quess ques? You know?

733
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:31,800
Speaker 3: Man?

734
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 4: With Prince? The only thing that I can honestly say, man,

735
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 4: I mean this is this, This is is one that

736
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 4: is a quick one that I think you'll appreciate.

737
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 3: I was doing. I did something for Sindbad. And by

738
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 3: the way, I want to acknowledge sinn Mad because you know,

739
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:54,239
Speaker 3: he had a stroke. So Sindbad I went out. Do

740
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 3: you remember when he had this thing called so Soul

741
00:39:57,280 --> 00:40:02,359
Speaker 3: Funk and it was on HBO. Yep, yes, okay, So

742
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 3: Sindbad I went out there to go just to hang out.

743
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:09,479
Speaker 4: And then he told me, Dougie, Yo, what you doing

744
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 4: out here? Yo?

745
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:12,320
Speaker 3: I want you to get on man, could you do something?

746
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:14,919
Speaker 3: I was like, yo, I just came out here to chill.

747
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,800
Speaker 3: But all right, no problems. And if you know Sinbad,

748
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:22,240
Speaker 3: his energy is crazy. So it was like, You're going

749
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:23,280
Speaker 3: to say yes.

750
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:24,759
Speaker 4: To me no matter what.

751
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 3: So now I'm in a Ruba trying to find a

752
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 3: studio because I'm thinking, damn, I need to get something,

753
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:32,879
Speaker 3: and I'm looking at a CD that got that got

754
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:35,040
Speaker 3: got to be real on there, I say, yo, man,

755
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 3: let me let me sample this. Pressing it out on

756
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:41,320
Speaker 3: a keyboard studio was real, under budget, not top of

757
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 3: the line. I press out got to be real so

758
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 3: I loop it. So then I go back on stage

759
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 3: in the night, I go on stage and I say,

760
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 3: he said, you're gonna do something for me. I say, yeah,

761
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:55,239
Speaker 3: They played the music for me, and HBO was not

762
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:58,960
Speaker 3: supposed to tape me performing. So I get on and

763
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:03,360
Speaker 3: I'm performing and the place is going crazy. The crowd

764
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 3: is going crazy. It's moving. They never had a hip

765
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 3: hop and turned into something.

766
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:11,720
Speaker 4: Now. HBO was taping it without me knowing it.

767
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 3: Because they told him, you know, this is Dougie just

768
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:15,480
Speaker 3: doing something, but that.

769
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 4: Little something turned into something crazy.

770
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 3: So then later HBO said, Yo, man, Yo, could we

771
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:25,279
Speaker 3: show this because this this thing is unbelievable. Did you

772
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 3: see what this guy did? So then HBO played it

773
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:32,799
Speaker 3: and it kept playing it every week like constantly, right,

774
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:37,960
Speaker 3: so Prince seeing it. So when Prince seen it, he said, YO,

775
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:41,400
Speaker 3: called Dougie up and see if he could meet me

776
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 3: in Atlanta two because I want him to come to

777
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 3: my show and perform.

778
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 4: So I get to this show.

779
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:51,440
Speaker 3: I'm backstage and he said, yo, jo, I already got

780
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:54,400
Speaker 3: a set going on now, so I'm gonna do my show,

781
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 3: but I want to know could you come with me

782
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 3: to the after party.

783
00:41:57,600 --> 00:41:59,320
Speaker 4: I said all right. I said, yeah, I heard you

784
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 4: wanted me to come. I'm here. Cool. So I went

785
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 4: to the after party.

786
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:05,399
Speaker 3: And this is when left Eye was alive. So we

787
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 3: go to the after party and left Eye meets me

788
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:11,279
Speaker 3: and meet Prince, and she's like bugging out, like, yo,

789
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 3: I can't even believe y'all too here at the same time.

790
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 3: So I asked Prince. Prince said, yo, I seen you

791
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:20,719
Speaker 3: on HBO. That was unbelievable. What made you come up

792
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:22,840
Speaker 3: with that? I said, Now it was this free styling.

793
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:25,319
Speaker 3: He said, okay. He said, well, let me ask you.

794
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:28,839
Speaker 3: You think you can get on to night. I said, yeah,

795
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:31,279
Speaker 3: no problem, he said, but I want to I want

796
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:33,279
Speaker 3: to ask you, I said, before I get on.

797
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:35,879
Speaker 4: I just and he wasn't called prince at the time

798
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 4: we called him.

799
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 3: You ain't know what to call him, so you know,

800
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 3: you call him the artist or whatever. I said, I

801
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 3: just want to know when I get on, how far

802
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 3: you want me to go? He said, I want you

803
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 3: to turn this mom out. I said no, I said,

804
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:55,759
Speaker 3: but I want to know how far do you want

805
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 3: me to go?

806
00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:57,879
Speaker 4: Like, I mean, I want to.

807
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:00,839
Speaker 3: Respect what you do, what you're asking Because I got

808
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 3: on with Dre and snooping them and them when they

809
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:06,359
Speaker 3: came to New York and Dre pulled me to the side.

810
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 3: It was like, Dougie, I want you to get on,

811
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 3: but please don't go.

812
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 2: Right right right.

813
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 3: And when he said that to me, When he said

814
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:25,640
Speaker 3: that to me, I was saying, like, what do you

815
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:28,040
Speaker 3: mean by that? Like don't you want me to? And

816
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 3: then I got on and I felt I didn't. I

817
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 3: listened to him, and I felt bad that I didn't

818
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:37,319
Speaker 3: go all the way. So after that, I said, I

819
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 3: got to ask a person how they feel so that

820
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:43,280
Speaker 3: they don't feel like I'm trying to upstage their setting.

821
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:48,279
Speaker 3: So I learned that. So long story short, prince sss,

822
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:49,680
Speaker 3: I want you to.

823
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 4: Like and he said it in my ear.

824
00:43:55,200 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, So after that I said yo, I said okay, Well,

825
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 3: if that's what you want me to do, I said, well,

826
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 3: that is what I'm gonna do.

827
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:11,960
Speaker 4: And I got on with him that night. When I

828
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:15,759
Speaker 4: got on with him that night, I took him to

829
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 4: a place that he ain't never but then when it

830
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:20,240
Speaker 4: comes to this.

831
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:23,880
Speaker 3: Thing, so this is what he did. So I came

832
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 3: down there this whole thing, and at the time I

833
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 3: was dating, I was when I. When I was dating

834
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 3: Miss Jones, I was.

835
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:34,880
Speaker 4: Down there the thing for Sindbad.

836
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 3: So I went down there and I didn't expect that,

837
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 3: So I did it based on the energy. I did

838
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:44,880
Speaker 3: Sinbad in favor. They taped it. I didn't know they

839
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:48,240
Speaker 3: were gonna tape it. Then they showed it on HBO

840
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 3: and it explodes and everybody and it was fun. And

841
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 3: actually after that, Sheryl Lynn was booked on the Soul

842
00:44:57,200 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 3: Funk Festival after that because how impactful it was. And

843
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:05,360
Speaker 3: then came Sugarhill Gang and all of the other groups.

844
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 3: So moving into Prince, he's seen it. When he's seen it,

845
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:12,880
Speaker 3: he called up Lindelle McMillan, who was my lawyer.

846
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:15,279
Speaker 4: Wow right. And when he called up.

847
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 3: Lindown line there and said, yo, Doug, he said, can

848
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 3: you come down to Atlanta? So I went down there

849
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 3: and I took Grandmaster Caz. I took Grandmaster Cast because

850
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 3: he loved Prince and he told me that. He said, Doug,

851
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 3: if you ever meet him, I just want you to

852
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:38,440
Speaker 3: do me one favor. Please introduce me to him. So

853
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:41,440
Speaker 3: I was like, okay, I brought him with me. So

854
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:44,560
Speaker 3: I go down there. Left eye is there, she's in

855
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 3: rere form, she's vibing. Energy is good. He gets in

856
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:52,480
Speaker 3: my ear. After I asked him, I said, brother, I

857
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 3: just want to be respectful to your set.

858
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:57,399
Speaker 4: You know, I appreciate you, and.

859
00:45:57,400 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 3: I don't want to do anything that's gonna make you

860
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 3: feel that I'm doing that. I'm trying to be disrespectful.

861
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:06,840
Speaker 3: And he was like, look, let me tell you something.

862
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:11,239
Speaker 3: I want you to turn this out to the he said,

863
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 3: He said all the way out. I turned around, said,

864
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:20,920
Speaker 3: no problem, m And after that I got on and

865
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 3: I turned that out to the point back after it

866
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:31,040
Speaker 3: was over, we kept doing encore after encore because question

867
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 3: no artists go we me and him.

868
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:35,040
Speaker 4: They can go for two, two.

869
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:37,280
Speaker 3: Hours three, it doesn't really even stop.

870
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 1: Like do you do you have a do you have

871
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:44,280
Speaker 1: a not an itinerary, but do you have a routine

872
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 1: bag that you go through, like when you do your

873
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 1: come again rhyme? Or you're uh, I can't even you

874
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:56,240
Speaker 1: know right right, like I know your go to dougie

875
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:59,239
Speaker 1: isms that can like how many of those do you

876
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 1: have in your head when it's time to just get

877
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 1: on someone set?

878
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:05,720
Speaker 2: Like do you have like thirty things already thought out?

879
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:08,920
Speaker 2: Like okay, well, it.

880
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 3: Goes back to the same thing that I was telling you.

881
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:15,920
Speaker 3: I'm not thinking, I'm feeling, and what I'm feeling is

882
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:19,280
Speaker 3: what I'm doing. So there's no there's no ism.

883
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 4: It is. It just is, and it is at.

884
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 3: That moment of now, and no matter what it is,

885
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 3: it will be what I wanted to be, and that

886
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:34,200
Speaker 3: is what it is. So and I don't mean that

887
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:37,720
Speaker 3: in an ego way. I mean that from a spiritual

888
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:42,279
Speaker 3: perspective that I'm coming to the table with energy, Like

889
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 3: like when we were switching to this for a second

890
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 3: and going back to the story when y'all did Dave

891
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 3: Chappelle and.

892
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:49,400
Speaker 4: He just called me.

893
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:51,359
Speaker 3: I was just coming to see this. I just came

894
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 3: to see y'all. I didn't come to get on stage,

895
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:58,120
Speaker 3: like I swear, that wasn't my goal. I was just

896
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:01,960
Speaker 3: there to see you him and all that. I say, Yeah,

897
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:03,880
Speaker 3: let me see this. This is gonna be nice. And

898
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:08,800
Speaker 3: out of nowhere, somebody, I think caller or somebody was saying, Dougie,

899
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 3: they want you to come on stage, and then Dave

900
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:16,920
Speaker 3: is saying, yo, here, man, yo, go on do it.

901
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:21,919
Speaker 3: So in my mind there's a switch that just kind

902
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:25,759
Speaker 3: of automatically go off, and I'm going all.

903
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 4: The way end unless you tell me don't.

904
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:32,839
Speaker 3: And then if you tell me don't, I might just

905
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:36,040
Speaker 3: say let them do it, and I'm just stand on

906
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:38,920
Speaker 3: the side and watch, because I don't ever want to

907
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 3: feel like I'm making somebody feel funny, and I don't

908
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:46,799
Speaker 3: ever want to feel funny if I don't do what

909
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:48,440
Speaker 3: I naturally feel.

910
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:48,759
Speaker 4: I want to do.

911
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 3: So that night, he had me in a tough situation

912
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 3: and the clock was ticking, and I was looking back

913
00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:59,840
Speaker 3: at you. You was frustrated at him about the clock,

914
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:02,319
Speaker 3: and I'm like, damn, I don't want us to be

915
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 3: mad at me, I said, I don't want us to

916
00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 3: be mad at me. God keep telling me, go hard,

917
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:12,359
Speaker 3: go on. And then Usher jumped on the stage. Todd

918
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:14,799
Speaker 3: t I jumped on the stage, and you was looking

919
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:16,640
Speaker 3: at them. It's a wrap, it's over.

920
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:21,040
Speaker 1: Let me let me explain to our audience. Okay, So

921
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:24,600
Speaker 1: New York is very old school. In New York is

922
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:29,160
Speaker 1: what we call a union town. Like you cannot step

923
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:32,480
Speaker 1: on the stage in New York City unless you play

924
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:37,719
Speaker 1: exuberant fines. If you go overtime, they're they're antal retentive

925
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:41,440
Speaker 1: with sound checks with shooting cameras. If you bring a

926
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:43,680
Speaker 1: camera out a Radio City Music Hall, that's like twenty

927
00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:46,399
Speaker 1: five thousand dollars. Like New York will find a way

928
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 1: to tax you just for simple things. It's a very

929
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:54,160
Speaker 1: old school thing. So what Doug is referencing is whenever

930
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:58,399
Speaker 1: Dave Chappelle does his like long residencies at Radio City

931
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 1: Music Hall, you know he'll do like fifteen twenty shows

932
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:03,480
Speaker 1: or whatever. David's is one of those guys that also

933
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:05,920
Speaker 1: just lives by his heart, and I guess that he

934
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:08,520
Speaker 1: has the deep pockets to you know.

935
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:11,160
Speaker 2: And as of this speaking, I saw Dave last.

936
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:14,560
Speaker 1: Night at Madison Square Garden with rock Him Buster Rhymes,

937
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:18,360
Speaker 1: and you know, the Union guys are like usually in

938
00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:22,320
Speaker 1: New York, especially at Madison Square Garden, especially at Radio City.

939
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:27,040
Speaker 1: I'll say that for every five minutes you go over,

940
00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:31,480
Speaker 1: that's like ten thousand dollars. So the whole goal is

941
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:35,480
Speaker 1: like when it's ten fifty nine, shut the show down,

942
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:41,200
Speaker 1: not at a Dave heel afan. So so at this point,

943
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:43,960
Speaker 1: when Dave is calling everyone on stage, I know we

944
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:49,080
Speaker 1: got like four minutes left, and all I'm thinking about is, Okay,

945
00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:51,160
Speaker 1: we're about to lose a lot of money here, and

946
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:54,640
Speaker 1: I don't want to be responsible for that. So at

947
00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:58,400
Speaker 1: ten fifty nine, I want the promoters. And you know,

948
00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:00,000
Speaker 1: I'm the hall monitor of him.

949
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:00,319
Speaker 2: Pop.

950
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:02,439
Speaker 1: Everyone will tell you I'm the hall monitor hip hop

951
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 1: right right right, I'm the guy decided like, hey, promoter,

952
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:07,720
Speaker 1: I'm I'm following union rules.

953
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:11,160
Speaker 2: That's Dave Jabelle, not me, you know, but anyway, continue

954
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:11,919
Speaker 2: right right?

955
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:14,920
Speaker 4: No, that's crazy, that's crazy. The way you just said that.

956
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:20,240
Speaker 4: The crazy.

957
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:23,520
Speaker 3: I never heard nobody say that, yo, yo, And you

958
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:26,399
Speaker 3: know what, I've seen it in your face when we

959
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:31,000
Speaker 3: was doing it, I was like, I said, man, question, Oh,

960
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:33,120
Speaker 3: he's trying to get everybody out of here. I said, well,

961
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:35,280
Speaker 3: Dave just won't stop, and he keeps.

962
00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:36,640
Speaker 4: Telling me go harder.

963
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:39,120
Speaker 3: I said, I'm torn between should I.

964
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:41,120
Speaker 4: Listen to the hall monitor? Should I.

965
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:45,239
Speaker 3: Do not?

966
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:48,400
Speaker 1: Like I don't like using twenty five thousand dollars for

967
00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:51,760
Speaker 1: nobody on my watch, Like I'm a guy that start.

968
00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:55,319
Speaker 4: On time, you know, And he didn't even care.

969
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:59,719
Speaker 2: So he's rich, right, hitch bitch.

970
00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:05,080
Speaker 3: Yo. So so because of that, and because of that

971
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:09,960
Speaker 3: kind of energy, I'm always careful because I don't want

972
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:13,480
Speaker 3: nobody to feel like I'm trying to do something to

973
00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:17,839
Speaker 3: you or take something. So long story short, I get

974
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:24,359
Speaker 3: on with Pete Prince yo. He's like this, go harder, Yeah,

975
00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:27,600
Speaker 3: go harder, give me more. So after this over the

976
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:29,960
Speaker 3: band and everybody, we go to the roof. They got

977
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:32,680
Speaker 3: this little roof. We're sitting out there. He's sitting there

978
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:36,200
Speaker 3: looking at me like this. I'm telling you that I

979
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:38,960
Speaker 3: can't make this up. Bro. He looking at me like this,

980
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:42,240
Speaker 3: just sitting here looking at me. And then the band

981
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:46,080
Speaker 3: is standing around him and he goes, how about it, band?

982
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:48,959
Speaker 3: What do you think? And it was like, oh my god,

983
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:49,680
Speaker 3: you crazy?

984
00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:52,120
Speaker 4: What do we think? Are you serious? Did you see

985
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:52,799
Speaker 4: what he just did?

986
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:55,640
Speaker 3: I and the whole band is going crazy enough? He

987
00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:58,200
Speaker 3: turned out. He said, so what do you want to do?

988
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:01,480
Speaker 3: I said, oh, man, I came out to do what

989
00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:03,279
Speaker 3: I wanted to do. I had some fun with you.

990
00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:05,919
Speaker 3: Man said this Grandma say cast Cats is sitting there

991
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:09,160
Speaker 3: like this, like looking at him like that, right, So

992
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:11,680
Speaker 3: what I'm saying in there and I'm like cats cast

993
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:14,439
Speaker 3: you know ca? He said, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah,

994
00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:17,279
Speaker 3: this is great night, great night. And then and then

995
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:19,799
Speaker 3: first look at me, he said, so what you want

996
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:22,520
Speaker 3: to do? You want to be down with MPG or

997
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:24,200
Speaker 3: what I turn?

998
00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:25,600
Speaker 4: I turned about. I'm looking out.

999
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:28,719
Speaker 3: I look at Cass right, and this is real. I

1000
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:31,440
Speaker 3: look at Cass. I'm like your cats. Oh, this guy's funny,

1001
00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:35,680
Speaker 3: yoe like in my mind. I said, yeah, okay, whatever

1002
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:37,799
Speaker 3: I said, Man, I just came out, man, I said,

1003
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:38,279
Speaker 3: I wasn't.

1004
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:40,400
Speaker 4: I said, I ain't come out here for no paper.

1005
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:44,239
Speaker 3: I just came out to show you love because you

1006
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:47,680
Speaker 3: deserved that, you know, And he and I said, I said,

1007
00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:50,040
Speaker 3: and your band was fun and I enjoyed it. I said,

1008
00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:53,400
Speaker 3: but we're gonna leave because you know, it was a

1009
00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:56,720
Speaker 3: nice night. So it's a tree there, right. He takes

1010
00:53:56,719 --> 00:53:59,279
Speaker 3: a leaf off the tree and he go like this

1011
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:04,480
Speaker 3: and he go, what, bro, I'm telling you you take

1012
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:09,560
Speaker 3: the leave. We go here go he go, okay, all right,

1013
00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:14,239
Speaker 3: good And then after I said, I'm looking at him

1014
00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:20,200
Speaker 3: and I was like, I supposed to eat a leaf too.

1015
00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:22,399
Speaker 4: I'm like, yo, where we're going with this one?

1016
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 3: But I said yo, But I like your stop. I

1017
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:27,560
Speaker 3: like what you just did right there. So after that,

1018
00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:30,000
Speaker 3: I get up and I leave, and the band and

1019
00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:34,720
Speaker 3: everybody's saying goodbye. I get back home, kays Is blown away.

1020
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:38,759
Speaker 3: I get a call cause said, yo, the artist wants

1021
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:41,160
Speaker 3: you to come on, wants you to come out, and

1022
00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:44,279
Speaker 3: he want to know can you meet him tomorrow night

1023
00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:45,480
Speaker 3: in Oklahoma?

1024
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:46,680
Speaker 4: He said he.

1025
00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:50,400
Speaker 3: Got twenty days and he just wanted to know what

1026
00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:51,520
Speaker 3: do you want?

1027
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:53,520
Speaker 4: I said, are you serious?

1028
00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:58,359
Speaker 3: And that was the beginning of me and Prince and

1029
00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:01,560
Speaker 3: it never stopped after that. And it got so deep

1030
00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:05,560
Speaker 3: that he used to ask me and he would and

1031
00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:06,960
Speaker 3: he appreciated.

1032
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:07,719
Speaker 4: He was sick.

1033
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:10,800
Speaker 3: So where do you think I should come out? What songs?

1034
00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:12,719
Speaker 3: What's the order of these songs you think I should do?

1035
00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:14,880
Speaker 3: And I said, yo, you gotta come out of the crowd.

1036
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:17,560
Speaker 3: Like it was me and him Shaka can Lorry Graham,

1037
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:22,240
Speaker 3: we had make Ceo, We had nase. He said, he said,

1038
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:25,279
Speaker 3: so should I come out the crowd? Right? I said, ye,

1039
00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:27,239
Speaker 3: come out here. I said, when you come to New York,

1040
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:30,120
Speaker 3: you gotta do pop life. He was like, here you

1041
00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:30,480
Speaker 3: think so?

1042
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:34,040
Speaker 4: I said, I know so, and he would listen.

1043
00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:38,920
Speaker 1: He would let me, you are the curator, right, He.

1044
00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:41,640
Speaker 4: Would let me design the shows. When we did Essen's Festival.

1045
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:45,520
Speaker 3: I had another technique that I was coming up with

1046
00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:49,520
Speaker 3: as far as different performances. So I started out in

1047
00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:52,560
Speaker 3: the audience with the turntables because he never wanted to

1048
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:56,040
Speaker 3: use turntables. I said, no, we're gonna use turntables, but

1049
00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:59,120
Speaker 3: you never used them like this, So I would start

1050
00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:00,840
Speaker 3: what did turntables?

1051
00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:03,120
Speaker 4: And I get the audience to the point it was crazy.

1052
00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:06,160
Speaker 3: We was at Essence Festival, right, and it was eighty

1053
00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:11,320
Speaker 3: thousand eighty Yo, it.

1054
00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:12,280
Speaker 4: Was eighty thousand.

1055
00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:15,080
Speaker 3: And before we went to the Essence, we did the

1056
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:20,120
Speaker 3: some bold place in La And then later on that night,

1057
00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:25,200
Speaker 3: we're sitting down and then he says to me, yeah, yeah, yeah, Hollywood, Hollywood.

1058
00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:28,120
Speaker 3: That's right. He's sitting down with me, and he says,

1059
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:32,719
Speaker 3: Essence magazine is in here and they want to interview me.

1060
00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:36,560
Speaker 4: Could you talk to them? Can you talk to them

1061
00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:37,120
Speaker 4: for me too?

1062
00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:40,120
Speaker 3: So I start talking to him and he started telling

1063
00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:41,240
Speaker 3: him how this thing worked.

1064
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:43,840
Speaker 4: He said, you see see how you know what I'm saying.

1065
00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:46,080
Speaker 3: I don't even got to say it because that's how

1066
00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:50,760
Speaker 3: we locked in. And then afterwards then we were meeting

1067
00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:52,640
Speaker 3: LA and they said, yo, he wants you to meet

1068
00:56:52,719 --> 00:56:53,480
Speaker 3: him at this club.

1069
00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:54,680
Speaker 4: I go to the club.

1070
00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:57,880
Speaker 3: He's sitting in this room on the other side. The

1071
00:56:57,960 --> 00:57:01,440
Speaker 3: party's bouncing, and he's sitting in there by himself with

1072
00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:06,800
Speaker 3: a little cup with like like some coffee and some honey,

1073
00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:09,600
Speaker 3: and he's sitting there like this. And he's sitting there

1074
00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:12,200
Speaker 3: like this, and he said, you know, we're supposed to

1075
00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:14,640
Speaker 3: do the essence. So how you think we need to

1076
00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:17,240
Speaker 3: do this? I said, I said, how you think we

1077
00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:19,960
Speaker 3: need to do this? He said, I'm going rock, I'm

1078
00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:24,880
Speaker 3: going straight rock. I said, all I said, all due respect,

1079
00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:27,720
Speaker 3: I don't think that that's.

1080
00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:35,320
Speaker 2: I said, I said, and then.

1081
00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:38,000
Speaker 4: Anybody. He said, so what you think?

1082
00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:41,880
Speaker 3: I said, I think we need to do what we do,

1083
00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:45,120
Speaker 3: but you need to do the hits. I said, this

1084
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:47,160
Speaker 3: is a black audience. And I said, I want to

1085
00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:51,640
Speaker 3: hear hit after hit after hit. And I said, I said, Well,

1086
00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:53,919
Speaker 3: before we get to the hits, I said, I'm gonna

1087
00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:56,120
Speaker 3: take the turntables and I'm gonna set.

1088
00:57:55,920 --> 00:57:58,400
Speaker 4: It up in the middle of the crowd, and I'm gonna.

1089
00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:00,680
Speaker 3: Get this thing pumped up to the point that is

1090
00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:04,400
Speaker 3: that is ridiculous, and then I'm going to pass it

1091
00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:07,040
Speaker 3: to you onto the stage and you're gonna hit him

1092
00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:08,960
Speaker 3: with a hit after hit after hit.

1093
00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:12,080
Speaker 4: He said, Okay, I got it.

1094
00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:16,040
Speaker 3: We went to the Essence, I went into the crowd,

1095
00:58:16,120 --> 00:58:18,880
Speaker 3: like I said, set it up, and I had like

1096
00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:21,040
Speaker 3: eighty thousand people doing the wobble.

1097
00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:24,680
Speaker 4: The damn building was shaken. Yeah, right that night he

1098
00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:25,040
Speaker 4: was there.

1099
00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:30,360
Speaker 5: Yeah about that stage, No, no, no, the.

1100
00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:35,640
Speaker 3: Whole building was shaken. I have never felt nothing like

1101
00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:39,400
Speaker 3: that other than probably Chuck Brown at Capital Center or

1102
00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:41,280
Speaker 3: something ridiculous.

1103
00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:44,120
Speaker 4: So after it was over, I mean, after that, I

1104
00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:46,600
Speaker 4: get it to a certain point. I know it's crazy

1105
00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:48,680
Speaker 4: because mc light came over to me and said, do

1106
00:58:48,760 --> 00:58:50,400
Speaker 4: you feel that? Do you feel that?

1107
00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:53,400
Speaker 3: Like that? So that's when I knew it was serious.

1108
00:58:53,720 --> 00:58:56,160
Speaker 3: So then I passed it to him on the stage.

1109
00:58:56,640 --> 00:58:58,520
Speaker 3: And when I passed it to him on the stage,

1110
00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:01,840
Speaker 3: it was crazy. It just it was crazy, man.

1111
00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:04,560
Speaker 5: And then that's one of all times day I think

1112
00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:09,880
Speaker 5: that was they.

1113
00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:12,160
Speaker 3: They definitely, they definitely say that it was definitely up

1114
00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:13,480
Speaker 3: there because it was nothing.

1115
00:59:14,040 --> 00:59:16,640
Speaker 4: It was nothing close, But that was the kind of.

1116
00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:22,400
Speaker 3: Relationship we had because it was like hanging out with

1117
00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:27,400
Speaker 3: a dude who was just as like he didn't care

1118
00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:29,520
Speaker 3: as much as I don't care, you know what I mean,

1119
00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:33,880
Speaker 3: Like we be riding around in the night and it'll

1120
00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:35,960
Speaker 3: be like, you want to go you want to go

1121
00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:37,360
Speaker 3: to the club where.

1122
00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:39,400
Speaker 4: I started at. I said, yeah, let's go in there.

1123
00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:41,560
Speaker 4: And you know that big guy who plays the drums

1124
00:59:41,560 --> 00:59:44,880
Speaker 4: and used to play the drums on the Real Yeah,

1125
00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:46,200
Speaker 4: he was sitting there one night.

1126
00:59:46,600 --> 00:59:49,280
Speaker 3: We're sitting there and he said, do you feel like

1127
00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:50,120
Speaker 3: doing something tonight?

1128
00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:54,360
Speaker 4: I said, you feel like doing something tonight? He turned around.

1129
00:59:54,520 --> 00:59:55,120
Speaker 4: He said yeah.

1130
00:59:55,560 --> 00:59:57,320
Speaker 3: I said, but but but but you ain't got to

1131
00:59:57,360 --> 00:59:59,080
Speaker 3: do nothing, I said, I said, let me, I'll do

1132
00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:02,200
Speaker 3: something with him. He said, all right, but but I

1133
01:00:02,320 --> 01:00:04,320
Speaker 3: go in there and get on with with Bland and

1134
01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:07,400
Speaker 3: the band that they have in there, turn that into something.

1135
01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:11,520
Speaker 3: Jump back in the limo, drive out to his house.

1136
01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:14,600
Speaker 3: We're sitting in a lemo talking and he and he

1137
01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:19,080
Speaker 3: told me something that was crazy. Man. He said, at

1138
01:00:19,120 --> 01:00:22,640
Speaker 3: one time, he said the Time was a band that

1139
01:00:22,680 --> 01:00:26,800
Speaker 3: when he when he had to get on after them, he.

1140
01:00:26,680 --> 01:00:30,120
Speaker 4: Was nervous, he said, because the.

1141
01:00:30,200 --> 01:00:35,640
Speaker 3: Time generated so much excitement, so much celebration, so much energy.

1142
01:00:36,040 --> 01:00:38,680
Speaker 3: That he said he felt like when he got on

1143
01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:41,680
Speaker 3: after it went to such a high.

1144
01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:44,720
Speaker 4: That he's doing all of these different things.

1145
01:00:44,600 --> 01:00:48,320
Speaker 3: But he can't he can't create that that you know

1146
01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:52,880
Speaker 3: that jungle love. Know that, he said. Then he said

1147
01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:56,680
Speaker 3: to me, he said, I've seen a lot of performers,

1148
01:00:57,000 --> 01:00:59,880
Speaker 3: he said that I'm telling you. He said, you are

1149
01:01:00,360 --> 01:01:05,320
Speaker 3: the most unusual and the most shocking that I have

1150
01:01:05,480 --> 01:01:08,520
Speaker 3: ever seen. He said, I don't know why God brought

1151
01:01:08,520 --> 01:01:12,840
Speaker 3: me and you together, but he said, you make me

1152
01:01:13,000 --> 01:01:17,360
Speaker 3: feel that same kind of thing, but on another level

1153
01:01:17,640 --> 01:01:18,840
Speaker 3: that I felt with the time.

1154
01:01:18,920 --> 01:01:21,680
Speaker 4: And he said, and I'm glad that you whip me.

1155
01:01:25,520 --> 01:01:30,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that that is literally you have no fear.

1156
01:01:30,920 --> 01:01:33,160
Speaker 1: And that's the thing that I want our audience to know,

1157
01:01:33,400 --> 01:01:42,760
Speaker 1: like you literally have you have zero fear. Wait, before

1158
01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:44,880
Speaker 1: we go, we got to talk about the Chuck Brown project.

1159
01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:47,520
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you.

1160
01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:49,560
Speaker 1: Know something Okay, when you when you were telling the

1161
01:01:49,600 --> 01:01:52,400
Speaker 1: story of the show, it kind of it kind of

1162
01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:54,560
Speaker 1: hit me. And you know, I know that it's never

1163
01:01:54,600 --> 01:01:55,680
Speaker 1: going on record before.

1164
01:01:56,440 --> 01:01:56,880
Speaker 2: I know that.

1165
01:01:56,880 --> 01:02:02,680
Speaker 1: The that the perception is that Go Go really never

1166
01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:09,040
Speaker 1: got its just due, but it's just we never new

1167
01:02:09,120 --> 01:02:12,560
Speaker 1: Jack Swing is basically Go Go And I really didn't

1168
01:02:12,560 --> 01:02:17,800
Speaker 1: truly realize that until wow, like moments ago. But yeah,

1169
01:02:17,800 --> 01:02:20,640
Speaker 1: if you listen to like I mean, the show is

1170
01:02:20,720 --> 01:02:24,080
Speaker 1: essentially Go Go, It is new Jack swing.

1171
01:02:24,080 --> 01:02:25,320
Speaker 4: Also it's a part of it.

1172
01:02:25,920 --> 01:02:28,640
Speaker 1: But Teddy, but I think it's electronic. I think it's

1173
01:02:28,680 --> 01:02:31,000
Speaker 1: electronic go go, and we just never called it that.

1174
01:02:31,840 --> 01:02:34,360
Speaker 4: So I agree. I agree with you. I agree with

1175
01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:34,840
Speaker 4: you now.

1176
01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:39,680
Speaker 3: And I never looked at it like that because see

1177
01:02:40,240 --> 01:02:43,280
Speaker 3: and this and this is not to take nothing from nobody.

1178
01:02:43,480 --> 01:02:46,680
Speaker 4: I'm not that guy. I'm not even built like that.

1179
01:02:47,240 --> 01:02:51,520
Speaker 3: But that thing about the way to beat plays and

1180
01:02:51,600 --> 01:02:54,360
Speaker 3: me beat it like I programmed.

1181
01:02:54,400 --> 01:02:57,120
Speaker 4: I basically he put on a metron.

1182
01:02:56,760 --> 01:02:59,880
Speaker 3: On and I played it out, and I put these

1183
01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:03,520
Speaker 3: things and I you know, I needed the guy who

1184
01:03:03,600 --> 01:03:07,320
Speaker 3: was technically savvy to allow me to get on that

1185
01:03:07,440 --> 01:03:10,720
Speaker 3: drum machine and do what I do because anything like

1186
01:03:10,760 --> 01:03:13,480
Speaker 3: when I did Freaks Beef, if I did Riseing to

1187
01:03:13,520 --> 01:03:15,880
Speaker 3: the Top beat, if I do Lotti Dot, I make

1188
01:03:15,960 --> 01:03:19,320
Speaker 3: the beat. So it's what I do. When I did

1189
01:03:19,400 --> 01:03:23,280
Speaker 3: Original Human Beetbox, I make the beat. So when this

1190
01:03:23,480 --> 01:03:28,400
Speaker 3: happened and I was making the show that swing, I

1191
01:03:28,520 --> 01:03:30,880
Speaker 3: never thought about it from go go because you know,

1192
01:03:31,360 --> 01:03:33,760
Speaker 3: as a kid, I used to play the juke box

1193
01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:37,200
Speaker 3: in the pool room around my block where we were.

1194
01:03:37,440 --> 01:03:39,440
Speaker 3: They are games and all that and keep us out

1195
01:03:39,480 --> 01:03:42,840
Speaker 3: of the street. But they had Busting Loose in the

1196
01:03:42,920 --> 01:03:48,080
Speaker 3: jukebox and I was hearing it. I said, Charlotte, get it.

1197
01:03:48,080 --> 01:03:53,040
Speaker 4: Y'all say what you like, back to back to back

1198
01:03:53,120 --> 01:03:53,600
Speaker 4: to back.

1199
01:03:54,040 --> 01:03:59,680
Speaker 3: So I think that that feeling influenced me when I

1200
01:03:59,760 --> 01:04:04,800
Speaker 3: was in the show, because it's the swing, it's that,

1201
01:04:05,520 --> 01:04:08,840
Speaker 3: it's that, it's the movement of it. And then, like

1202
01:04:08,960 --> 01:04:12,360
Speaker 3: you said, which I think is really a great observation,

1203
01:04:12,560 --> 01:04:16,360
Speaker 3: and I never thought about that that this show is

1204
01:04:16,760 --> 01:04:17,840
Speaker 3: a go go record.

1205
01:04:18,440 --> 01:04:18,800
Speaker 2: It is.

1206
01:04:19,840 --> 01:04:20,320
Speaker 4: It is.

1207
01:04:20,640 --> 01:04:23,040
Speaker 5: But you are the first person in the history, though,

1208
01:04:23,880 --> 01:04:29,080
Speaker 5: to do something besides a collaboration with the genre, like right, Doug, Like,

1209
01:04:29,120 --> 01:04:32,600
Speaker 5: technically you're the only person of note that has given

1210
01:04:32,680 --> 01:04:36,280
Speaker 5: this kind of love to that genre in this way, right.

1211
01:04:36,120 --> 01:04:38,520
Speaker 2: In this way. Herbie Loveug used to like sample lot

1212
01:04:38,600 --> 01:04:40,640
Speaker 2: like yeah, but not in a yeah, he's not like

1213
01:04:40,680 --> 01:04:41,440
Speaker 2: the way he's doing it.

1214
01:04:41,320 --> 01:04:44,080
Speaker 5: It was always a collaboration, but not a total like dedication,

1215
01:04:44,200 --> 01:04:46,080
Speaker 5: love letter and inspiration kind of thing.

1216
01:04:47,160 --> 01:04:48,680
Speaker 2: So how did the project come together?

1217
01:04:49,680 --> 01:04:50,919
Speaker 4: Well, it's interesting, man.

1218
01:04:51,000 --> 01:04:53,840
Speaker 3: I was and I'm telling you the truth again, I

1219
01:04:53,960 --> 01:04:58,120
Speaker 3: was sleeping and out of nowhere something said.

1220
01:04:58,280 --> 01:05:00,520
Speaker 4: Write a song about Chuck Brown.

1221
01:05:01,280 --> 01:05:03,720
Speaker 3: And when it said write a song about Chuck Brown.

1222
01:05:04,160 --> 01:05:07,040
Speaker 3: I picked up the pen and I just wrote the

1223
01:05:07,080 --> 01:05:09,760
Speaker 3: song and I made the beat, and on the beat,

1224
01:05:10,160 --> 01:05:12,960
Speaker 3: some of those drum sounds are me because I couldn't

1225
01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:16,960
Speaker 3: find certain sounds that I wanted for this effect that

1226
01:05:17,040 --> 01:05:18,440
Speaker 3: I was looking for with the Go Go.

1227
01:05:18,800 --> 01:05:21,480
Speaker 4: So now what I do is I'll.

1228
01:05:21,320 --> 01:05:23,280
Speaker 3: Go in there and I'll do my own I'll be

1229
01:05:23,400 --> 01:05:24,800
Speaker 3: the high hat with the drum.

1230
01:05:25,120 --> 01:05:28,120
Speaker 4: I'll be the other snare on top of the snare.

1231
01:05:28,600 --> 01:05:31,080
Speaker 3: I'll put my low tone.

1232
01:05:30,840 --> 01:05:33,200
Speaker 4: Based drum under the foot.

1233
01:05:33,480 --> 01:05:37,800
Speaker 3: So now the way that I do beats is I'm

1234
01:05:38,160 --> 01:05:42,520
Speaker 3: I'm always intertwining now my own drum sounds on top

1235
01:05:42,560 --> 01:05:45,240
Speaker 3: of drum sets, because I don't think they have all

1236
01:05:45,240 --> 01:05:48,640
Speaker 3: of the drum sounds that I can hear anymore, so

1237
01:05:48,760 --> 01:05:51,920
Speaker 3: I make them up. So I started to build the track,

1238
01:05:52,400 --> 01:05:54,680
Speaker 3: and when I built the track, I was writing. I

1239
01:05:54,760 --> 01:05:57,840
Speaker 3: was writing a song to it. And then it was

1240
01:05:57,920 --> 01:06:00,680
Speaker 3: interesting to me because I was like, why am I

1241
01:06:00,760 --> 01:06:04,760
Speaker 3: doing this? And that I thought about the way I

1242
01:06:04,840 --> 01:06:08,760
Speaker 3: met Chuck Run from Run DMC was the guy who

1243
01:06:08,880 --> 01:06:10,960
Speaker 3: told me because we was on the show together in

1244
01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:15,000
Speaker 3: Capital Center eighty five. He told me, yo, you ever

1245
01:06:15,000 --> 01:06:17,480
Speaker 3: been you ever seen Chuck Brown. You ever heard Go Go?

1246
01:06:17,760 --> 01:06:20,160
Speaker 3: I said, nah, I know, Chuck Brown, but what's Go Go?

1247
01:06:20,360 --> 01:06:22,960
Speaker 3: He said, you ain't seen a Go Go concert? He said, Yo, wait,

1248
01:06:23,040 --> 01:06:28,240
Speaker 3: GC this not I turned around. I changed my stuff up, bro.

1249
01:06:28,800 --> 01:06:31,640
Speaker 3: I went up in there to get there early. Chuck

1250
01:06:31,680 --> 01:06:35,160
Speaker 3: Brown burnt this shit down to the floor to the

1251
01:06:35,240 --> 01:06:40,040
Speaker 3: point that it was madness. I'm talking about you want

1252
01:06:40,080 --> 01:06:44,160
Speaker 3: to talk about you want to see a spiritual, like

1253
01:06:44,160 --> 01:06:49,040
Speaker 3: like out of body experience. Play Go Go, Play Go

1254
01:06:49,040 --> 01:06:52,640
Speaker 3: Go with twenty thousand black people in the spot and

1255
01:06:52,720 --> 01:06:56,520
Speaker 3: white people that understand play it, and you're going to

1256
01:06:56,640 --> 01:07:00,360
Speaker 3: see a whole, a whole kind of experiences that you

1257
01:07:00,480 --> 01:07:03,040
Speaker 3: never seen. So then I ran. He got off. I

1258
01:07:03,040 --> 01:07:06,720
Speaker 3: went backstage, started talking to him. I started telling him

1259
01:07:06,760 --> 01:07:10,480
Speaker 3: how incredible his performance was. He started telling me how

1260
01:07:10,520 --> 01:07:13,880
Speaker 3: he loves the show, he loves Lotty Dottie, he thinks

1261
01:07:13,880 --> 01:07:16,480
Speaker 3: that what I'm doing is really unique. And then we

1262
01:07:16,600 --> 01:07:19,960
Speaker 3: just became friends from eighty five all the way to

1263
01:07:20,040 --> 01:07:23,360
Speaker 3: when he performed on the Capitol Lawn. He called me up.

1264
01:07:23,440 --> 01:07:26,040
Speaker 3: I didn't know that would be one of our last performances.

1265
01:07:26,320 --> 01:07:29,680
Speaker 3: And I got on with him there and he was

1266
01:07:29,840 --> 01:07:36,240
Speaker 3: such a beautiful spirit, and I looked at him like

1267
01:07:36,360 --> 01:07:39,040
Speaker 3: I look at myself where I felt like he was.

1268
01:07:39,120 --> 01:07:43,640
Speaker 3: He created something, and sometimes when a person creates something,

1269
01:07:43,720 --> 01:07:47,920
Speaker 3: like you said quest, which was really deep, the person

1270
01:07:47,960 --> 01:07:51,560
Speaker 3: who's the first person that created may not always be

1271
01:07:51,640 --> 01:07:55,440
Speaker 3: the one that's acknowledged, you know. And I felt like,

1272
01:07:55,920 --> 01:08:00,960
Speaker 3: I'm going to make sure that you acknowledged Chuck Brown.

1273
01:08:01,320 --> 01:08:05,480
Speaker 3: When you hear Beyonce's joint, you know, the first joint

1274
01:08:05,480 --> 01:08:07,840
Speaker 3: that she did with Crazy.

1275
01:08:08,960 --> 01:08:11,120
Speaker 5: Rich Harrison, he always gonna put that go Go up.

1276
01:08:12,080 --> 01:08:17,080
Speaker 3: Right right, like I want y'all to know, this is

1277
01:08:17,160 --> 01:08:22,960
Speaker 3: the guy that did this, and this energy that y'all feeling,

1278
01:08:23,640 --> 01:08:24,559
Speaker 3: this is the guy.

1279
01:08:25,320 --> 01:08:28,360
Speaker 4: And I guess spiritually there was something.

1280
01:08:28,600 --> 01:08:32,040
Speaker 3: And then the other thing is that Prince before he passed,

1281
01:08:32,280 --> 01:08:34,800
Speaker 3: he was going to produce my next album and he

1282
01:08:34,880 --> 01:08:38,800
Speaker 3: wanted me to do a live album and he loved

1283
01:08:38,840 --> 01:08:43,679
Speaker 3: Go Go, so she did right right, So he wanted

1284
01:08:43,680 --> 01:08:47,559
Speaker 3: me to do something. I think in this kind of

1285
01:08:47,560 --> 01:08:50,840
Speaker 3: a way that I did it because it's live and

1286
01:08:50,920 --> 01:08:53,479
Speaker 3: at the same time it's go go, and I didn't

1287
01:08:53,479 --> 01:08:55,639
Speaker 3: know I was going to be putting it together like this,

1288
01:08:56,080 --> 01:08:58,080
Speaker 3: but it worked out and let me.

1289
01:08:58,040 --> 01:09:00,280
Speaker 5: Clear my throat. Though Doug like you already out of

1290
01:09:00,439 --> 01:09:03,960
Speaker 5: your relationship with Go Go is like continue all day?

1291
01:09:05,000 --> 01:09:06,640
Speaker 5: Can you talk about for a second, because I was

1292
01:09:06,800 --> 01:09:09,479
Speaker 5: just catching up and watching that video earlier and I

1293
01:09:09,560 --> 01:09:11,160
Speaker 5: was like, Yo, please tell me about this.

1294
01:09:11,160 --> 01:09:13,200
Speaker 4: Video shoot with you biz DJ.

1295
01:09:13,080 --> 01:09:15,800
Speaker 5: Cool like in this club. I know it's got to

1296
01:09:15,840 --> 01:09:16,800
Speaker 5: be a story.

1297
01:09:16,880 --> 01:09:21,800
Speaker 3: And Yo, I tell you the quick Cool told me like,

1298
01:09:21,920 --> 01:09:23,040
Speaker 3: I'm coming to the video.

1299
01:09:23,160 --> 01:09:23,800
Speaker 4: I pull up.

1300
01:09:24,000 --> 01:09:26,680
Speaker 3: Cool said, hey, Dug, what's going on? No, Like, I

1301
01:09:26,680 --> 01:09:29,320
Speaker 3: don't even know what he wants? He said, Yo, like

1302
01:09:29,400 --> 01:09:31,000
Speaker 3: I know he want to do somebody. I mean, I

1303
01:09:31,000 --> 01:09:34,600
Speaker 3: don't really know. He said, Yo, man, I need a

1304
01:09:34,760 --> 01:09:36,640
Speaker 3: boss from you. Do you got him write there? Like like,

1305
01:09:36,680 --> 01:09:40,719
Speaker 3: are you ready to do this now? I said, yeah, okay, Cool,

1306
01:09:40,800 --> 01:09:44,800
Speaker 3: let's do it. He said, okay, Cool like no notice, no,

1307
01:09:45,320 --> 01:09:50,879
Speaker 3: here's your part where you put your verse no, no nothing, no.

1308
01:09:50,800 --> 01:09:51,840
Speaker 4: Se no nothing.

1309
01:09:52,439 --> 01:09:55,080
Speaker 3: So after that, so he's and then he told me

1310
01:09:55,160 --> 01:09:57,840
Speaker 3: later he said, well, you know, I'm gonna be honest

1311
01:09:57,880 --> 01:10:00,760
Speaker 3: with you. I told you to do that because I

1312
01:10:00,800 --> 01:10:03,040
Speaker 3: think you probably one of the only guys that could

1313
01:10:03,040 --> 01:10:03,760
Speaker 3: really do that.

1314
01:10:04,160 --> 01:10:08,400
Speaker 4: And don't make it seem like you're doing that, because

1315
01:10:08,400 --> 01:10:09,120
Speaker 4: I mean it is DC.

1316
01:10:12,760 --> 01:10:16,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, we just started free styling and then like the

1317
01:10:16,160 --> 01:10:17,320
Speaker 3: Tupac on there.

1318
01:10:17,640 --> 01:10:20,240
Speaker 4: It was just something spiritually that made me say that.

1319
01:10:20,880 --> 01:10:23,439
Speaker 5: You know, so that was a live song and video

1320
01:10:23,560 --> 01:10:27,120
Speaker 5: at the same time. Y'all take the time.

1321
01:10:27,680 --> 01:10:31,240
Speaker 3: Wow, it was in Philly. What that's right?

1322
01:10:31,280 --> 01:10:34,519
Speaker 2: It was it was at the Bahama Bay and Philadelphia.

1323
01:10:34,200 --> 01:10:36,960
Speaker 3: He says it.

1324
01:10:37,320 --> 01:10:41,439
Speaker 4: Yes, he says it, bro crazy crazy.

1325
01:10:42,479 --> 01:10:47,200
Speaker 1: You know this, this is a legendary, legendary lesson.

1326
01:10:47,560 --> 01:10:50,280
Speaker 5: And thank you for giving love to to to everybody

1327
01:10:50,280 --> 01:10:51,479
Speaker 5: and go go in the song to because you didn't

1328
01:10:51,520 --> 01:10:54,040
Speaker 5: just give love to Chuck. You gave love to the areas.

1329
01:10:54,080 --> 01:10:54,920
Speaker 4: You gave love.

1330
01:10:55,080 --> 01:10:58,040
Speaker 5: To to all the legends. So it was I just

1331
01:10:58,040 --> 01:10:59,240
Speaker 5: want to I'm sorry, I'm mayor. I didn't mean to

1332
01:10:59,240 --> 01:11:05,200
Speaker 5: cut you say that. I appreciate you so, thank you man.

1333
01:11:05,720 --> 01:11:07,960
Speaker 3: Because he used to do play this only at night

1334
01:11:08,080 --> 01:11:11,680
Speaker 3: and the way he would do it, I don't know,

1335
01:11:11,760 --> 01:11:15,120
Speaker 3: you know, it's I still feel like I did in

1336
01:11:15,200 --> 01:11:19,240
Speaker 3: the beginning, that you still got You gotta follow your

1337
01:11:19,280 --> 01:11:22,599
Speaker 3: spirit and it's not going to always be popular, and

1338
01:11:22,640 --> 01:11:26,240
Speaker 3: sometimes you're doing things because they just supposed to be done.

1339
01:11:26,280 --> 01:11:29,760
Speaker 3: I remember Prince told me when he wrote Kiss. He said,

1340
01:11:29,760 --> 01:11:32,680
Speaker 3: when he wrote Kiss, he had to forget how to

1341
01:11:32,760 --> 01:11:37,280
Speaker 3: make records, meaning he had to simplify everything. So when

1342
01:11:37,320 --> 01:11:42,719
Speaker 3: you hear it, they kiss like he said, he stripped

1343
01:11:42,720 --> 01:11:47,800
Speaker 3: it down right right, And when he stripped it down,

1344
01:11:47,840 --> 01:11:51,599
Speaker 3: he said, it's because he had to go into a

1345
01:11:51,640 --> 01:11:56,160
Speaker 3: space where he had to simplify things. And I feel

1346
01:11:56,520 --> 01:12:00,160
Speaker 3: as an artist that you go into these spaces for

1347
01:12:00,280 --> 01:12:04,320
Speaker 3: reasons and it sets you up for something else that

1348
01:12:04,400 --> 01:12:05,160
Speaker 3: you're supposed to do.

1349
01:12:05,200 --> 01:12:05,880
Speaker 4: But you gotta go.

1350
01:12:05,960 --> 01:12:08,840
Speaker 3: There though, to get there, you know what I mean.

1351
01:12:11,200 --> 01:12:11,880
Speaker 4: I don't know why.

1352
01:12:11,920 --> 01:12:13,840
Speaker 3: I don't know what connected me to make this Go

1353
01:12:13,840 --> 01:12:16,160
Speaker 3: Go album, but I knew I had to make it.

1354
01:12:16,280 --> 01:12:18,000
Speaker 4: I knew it was important.

1355
01:12:18,240 --> 01:12:22,280
Speaker 3: And the brother who shot the album cover he called me.

1356
01:12:23,200 --> 01:12:24,680
Speaker 3: And when he called me, it was a friend of

1357
01:12:24,680 --> 01:12:26,799
Speaker 3: mine who would go and film me in different places

1358
01:12:26,800 --> 01:12:30,439
Speaker 3: and stuff. And he has diabetes type too, And he

1359
01:12:30,640 --> 01:12:35,639
Speaker 3: called me and he said, Dougie. His name is Bobby Gunn.

1360
01:12:36,040 --> 01:12:39,200
Speaker 3: He said, Dougie, Yo, man, I know you into this

1361
01:12:39,280 --> 01:12:42,680
Speaker 3: health thing, man, but I'm dealing with his diabetes and

1362
01:12:42,720 --> 01:12:45,280
Speaker 3: I'm trying to make sure that I don't do something

1363
01:12:45,439 --> 01:12:48,120
Speaker 3: that's gonna cause me to How many probably say, yo,

1364
01:12:48,160 --> 01:12:50,839
Speaker 3: you got any suggestions? So I'm on the phone talking

1365
01:12:50,840 --> 01:12:53,600
Speaker 3: to him about it, going through the whole diabetic conversation,

1366
01:12:54,000 --> 01:12:56,639
Speaker 3: telling him, don't do this here. You like sodas drinker

1367
01:12:56,800 --> 01:13:00,640
Speaker 3: zvia Zba is a sugar free soda and it's not

1368
01:13:00,840 --> 01:13:04,680
Speaker 3: an asparteam. It hires Stevia and it is good. And

1369
01:13:04,720 --> 01:13:06,880
Speaker 3: he said, oh, thank you, Doug, thank you, And I

1370
01:13:06,960 --> 01:13:09,960
Speaker 3: hang up the phone with him. And he only called

1371
01:13:09,960 --> 01:13:12,120
Speaker 3: me for that and I shared that one. He said,

1372
01:13:12,120 --> 01:13:14,800
Speaker 3: but Doug, yo, I got some pictures I took and

1373
01:13:14,840 --> 01:13:17,200
Speaker 3: I want to send them to you. And you know,

1374
01:13:17,479 --> 01:13:20,400
Speaker 3: just some pictures I took a while ago. He sent

1375
01:13:20,439 --> 01:13:22,920
Speaker 3: me the pictures. All of the pictures was of me

1376
01:13:23,000 --> 01:13:25,559
Speaker 3: and Chuck Brown. And he didn't even know I was

1377
01:13:25,600 --> 01:13:28,599
Speaker 3: making this song. He didn't even know I was making

1378
01:13:28,640 --> 01:13:31,320
Speaker 3: the song. And then I looked at one.

1379
01:13:31,200 --> 01:13:33,920
Speaker 4: Of the pictures. I said, Yo, this is crazy. This

1380
01:13:33,960 --> 01:13:34,760
Speaker 4: is crazy. I called him.

1381
01:13:34,760 --> 01:13:37,559
Speaker 3: I said, Yo, I just wrote a song called Chuck Brown.

1382
01:13:37,600 --> 01:13:39,920
Speaker 3: What's the odds of you sending me this?

1383
01:13:40,240 --> 01:13:40,559
Speaker 4: I said?

1384
01:13:40,680 --> 01:13:43,120
Speaker 3: Can I use this shot? Could I use this shot?

1385
01:13:43,600 --> 01:13:45,760
Speaker 3: And the shot that I made the album cover was

1386
01:13:45,800 --> 01:13:47,599
Speaker 3: the shot that that brother gave to me.

1387
01:13:48,120 --> 01:13:50,360
Speaker 4: So this is what I'm trying to explain sometime I

1388
01:13:50,400 --> 01:13:54,559
Speaker 4: think things just kind of right right.

1389
01:13:54,760 --> 01:13:58,280
Speaker 3: So yeah, so that's what the album represents to me.

1390
01:13:59,080 --> 01:14:02,479
Speaker 3: And I appreciate y'all having me on here to talk

1391
01:14:02,520 --> 01:14:03,000
Speaker 3: about it.

1392
01:14:03,040 --> 01:14:07,360
Speaker 2: And brother, thank you kept y'all on a little long No, no,

1393
01:14:07,200 --> 01:14:09,439
Speaker 2: we kept you man. We love it right. Yeah, we

1394
01:14:09,880 --> 01:14:10,960
Speaker 2: lived for these episodes.

1395
01:14:11,640 --> 01:14:14,160
Speaker 5: I almost gotta tell folks, and six hours Jimmy jam

1396
01:14:14,200 --> 01:14:15,479
Speaker 5: you are right, Yeah.

1397
01:14:15,720 --> 01:14:18,120
Speaker 2: This is all right. This is right up there with it.

1398
01:14:18,560 --> 01:14:21,120
Speaker 1: No, for real, I want to thank you like your

1399
01:14:21,240 --> 01:14:24,360
Speaker 1: your your wisdom and your life lessons and your lessons

1400
01:14:24,360 --> 01:14:24,760
Speaker 1: on fear.

1401
01:14:25,320 --> 01:14:26,920
Speaker 2: I'm definitely gonna apply that.

1402
01:14:27,800 --> 01:14:34,120
Speaker 1: This is an awesome world's greatest entertainer. Yes, and unpaid

1403
01:14:34,120 --> 01:14:37,960
Speaker 1: Bill and and Sugar Steve and like, yeah, yeah, this

1404
01:14:38,080 --> 01:14:40,400
Speaker 1: is yo. I got one last question.

1405
01:14:40,479 --> 01:14:43,920
Speaker 6: I've asked this if you've got time, okay, And I'm

1406
01:14:43,920 --> 01:14:45,840
Speaker 6: only asking this because it's you, because I normally hate

1407
01:14:45,840 --> 01:14:47,120
Speaker 6: when people ask this question.

1408
01:14:51,840 --> 01:14:55,000
Speaker 2: For you. Who are your favorite season?

1409
01:14:55,000 --> 01:14:56,600
Speaker 6: Not necessarily your top you ain't got to say your

1410
01:14:56,640 --> 01:15:00,920
Speaker 6: top five whatever, but who are your face? And the

1411
01:15:00,920 --> 01:15:03,479
Speaker 6: reason I ask is because you're probably one of the

1412
01:15:03,479 --> 01:15:06,600
Speaker 6: first like real like vets that we've had on in

1413
01:15:06,680 --> 01:15:09,880
Speaker 6: terms of being able to work with DJ Hollywood and

1414
01:15:10,120 --> 01:15:11,200
Speaker 6: you know, I mean you're from that.

1415
01:15:11,400 --> 01:15:15,880
Speaker 2: You know that first contrast straight up, so you know

1416
01:15:15,920 --> 01:15:16,240
Speaker 2: what I mean.

1417
01:15:16,320 --> 01:15:18,320
Speaker 6: So just to hear it from you from og like you,

1418
01:15:18,439 --> 01:15:21,439
Speaker 6: who are who do you consider your top MC's.

1419
01:15:22,920 --> 01:15:27,400
Speaker 3: You know, it's interesting the people that I consider top

1420
01:15:27,560 --> 01:15:33,000
Speaker 3: MC's is a very interesting topic because I understand the

1421
01:15:33,160 --> 01:15:38,200
Speaker 3: DNA of where different styles come from. So when I'm

1422
01:15:38,240 --> 01:15:42,439
Speaker 3: looking at different people that other people like, I know

1423
01:15:43,520 --> 01:15:46,559
Speaker 3: where that style was birthed and.

1424
01:15:46,479 --> 01:15:49,760
Speaker 4: Why you like it or or how it evolved to

1425
01:15:49,840 --> 01:15:50,439
Speaker 4: become that.

1426
01:15:51,080 --> 01:15:55,040
Speaker 3: So DJ Hollywood is a very important piece of the

1427
01:15:55,080 --> 01:15:58,360
Speaker 3: puzzle for me because there was no style.

1428
01:15:58,920 --> 01:16:01,880
Speaker 4: He says, say, oh he wrote that.

1429
01:16:02,680 --> 01:16:05,960
Speaker 3: He said, throw your hands in the air and wave

1430
01:16:06,040 --> 01:16:08,960
Speaker 3: him like you just don't kid. He he was the

1431
01:16:09,040 --> 01:16:13,000
Speaker 3: guy who was who jumped that off because he was

1432
01:16:13,040 --> 01:16:16,599
Speaker 3: bringing celebration, you see. So that was an important piece

1433
01:16:16,920 --> 01:16:19,840
Speaker 3: of the puzzle, and in the beginning it was one

1434
01:16:19,840 --> 01:16:24,120
Speaker 3: of the most important pieces. And Curtis Blow got it

1435
01:16:24,160 --> 01:16:30,679
Speaker 3: from him and loved bug Starsky told me that when

1436
01:16:30,720 --> 01:16:34,000
Speaker 3: he asked him, I said, Yo, Love, who was the

1437
01:16:34,040 --> 01:16:35,800
Speaker 3: first person you've seen do this?

1438
01:16:35,960 --> 01:16:37,160
Speaker 4: Bro on that mic?

1439
01:16:37,240 --> 01:16:42,479
Speaker 3: He sat there and said Hollywood. I turned around for real,

1440
01:16:42,880 --> 01:16:45,760
Speaker 3: he said, Dougie, he said it was. He said, I

1441
01:16:45,840 --> 01:16:48,320
Speaker 3: was sitting in the car as a kid and some

1442
01:16:48,479 --> 01:16:51,040
Speaker 3: dude that had an eight track player in his car,

1443
01:16:51,640 --> 01:16:55,160
Speaker 3: and Hollywood made the first mixtape on an eight track,

1444
01:16:56,560 --> 01:17:01,040
Speaker 3: he said, with your play and play and play, he said,

1445
01:17:01,479 --> 01:17:03,960
Speaker 3: he said, And I just sat there and I said,

1446
01:17:04,920 --> 01:17:06,000
Speaker 3: I want to be like that.

1447
01:17:06,200 --> 01:17:08,880
Speaker 4: I want to do that. So then you got you

1448
01:17:08,960 --> 01:17:10,200
Speaker 4: got love. You got love.

1449
01:17:10,240 --> 01:17:16,000
Speaker 3: But then you got busy b crowd Rockey right, and

1450
01:17:16,040 --> 01:17:18,240
Speaker 3: they from ball with the ball and both of them

1451
01:17:18,280 --> 01:17:21,640
Speaker 3: doing that. So you got this whole line. So Hollywood

1452
01:17:21,680 --> 01:17:26,120
Speaker 3: is an important piece. Melle mel is an important piece.

1453
01:17:27,320 --> 01:17:30,320
Speaker 3: It's an important piece. His style, not just the message,

1454
01:17:30,960 --> 01:17:34,759
Speaker 3: just his whole confidence in the way that he brought

1455
01:17:34,760 --> 01:17:40,040
Speaker 3: what he did Grandmaster Cas. He brought that clever, slick

1456
01:17:40,120 --> 01:17:43,519
Speaker 3: thing that you like about King. And when you listen

1457
01:17:43,600 --> 01:17:47,000
Speaker 3: in the mal, you like k r S. And then

1458
01:17:47,040 --> 01:17:49,720
Speaker 3: you got mo D And when you got Mod, you

1459
01:17:49,800 --> 01:17:51,760
Speaker 3: listening in the Mod, you hear him a rod kill

1460
01:17:52,400 --> 01:17:58,519
Speaker 3: you hearing NOAs So the bloodline I learned directly from

1461
01:17:58,640 --> 01:18:02,720
Speaker 3: the bloodline directly, and then and then while I learned that,

1462
01:18:04,040 --> 01:18:06,960
Speaker 3: then then I had to carve out my space and

1463
01:18:07,080 --> 01:18:12,080
Speaker 3: create this beatbox thing, which is a completely different dimension

1464
01:18:12,160 --> 01:18:16,200
Speaker 3: from everything. So when people talk about MC's and who

1465
01:18:16,280 --> 01:18:19,760
Speaker 3: is this and who's that, it's a little different from

1466
01:18:19,800 --> 01:18:21,080
Speaker 3: me because it's.

1467
01:18:20,960 --> 01:18:22,479
Speaker 4: The same about Chuck.

1468
01:18:23,320 --> 01:18:27,080
Speaker 3: Because you like you like Rare Essence, then you like Chuck,

1469
01:18:27,640 --> 01:18:31,960
Speaker 3: you like EU, then you like Chuck. Like whoever you

1470
01:18:32,080 --> 01:18:36,280
Speaker 3: want to decide that you want to you better, you

1471
01:18:36,439 --> 01:18:37,920
Speaker 3: gonna go back to Chuck.

1472
01:18:38,360 --> 01:18:39,240
Speaker 4: You see what I'm saying.

1473
01:18:39,720 --> 01:18:42,760
Speaker 3: So even when you like like I know, I knew

1474
01:18:42,840 --> 01:18:46,519
Speaker 3: James Brown, James Brown, and I'm very close to the family.

1475
01:18:47,000 --> 01:18:49,080
Speaker 4: And James Brown liked me a lot.

1476
01:18:49,120 --> 01:18:52,479
Speaker 3: And he used to tell me, son, read your Bible, Son,

1477
01:18:52,880 --> 01:18:55,599
Speaker 3: read your Bible, and always take care of your teeth.

1478
01:18:56,080 --> 01:18:58,519
Speaker 4: And then he said, and always take care of your feet.

1479
01:18:59,280 --> 01:19:03,280
Speaker 1: These are that's that's that's a James that's a James

1480
01:19:03,320 --> 01:19:04,360
Speaker 1: John classic right there.

1481
01:19:05,200 --> 01:19:09,000
Speaker 3: Take care of your teeth and your feet.

1482
01:19:07,920 --> 01:19:12,599
Speaker 2: You have the best teeth in hip hop.

1483
01:19:14,360 --> 01:19:16,120
Speaker 1: Wait a minute, let me, let me let me ask

1484
01:19:16,160 --> 01:19:19,320
Speaker 1: the opposite of Let me ask the opposite of fante,

1485
01:19:20,200 --> 01:19:23,880
Speaker 1: because there's a lot of them. Who are your top

1486
01:19:23,960 --> 01:19:28,719
Speaker 1: three beat boxers, not you? Who are your top three

1487
01:19:28,760 --> 01:19:31,120
Speaker 1: beat boxers, and there's a lot to choose from now.

1488
01:19:32,560 --> 01:19:35,439
Speaker 4: Right. I like rosell I was hoping.

1489
01:19:35,520 --> 01:19:36,960
Speaker 5: I was wondering, Yo.

1490
01:19:37,640 --> 01:19:39,240
Speaker 2: I forgot Roselle was in my group.

1491
01:19:39,560 --> 01:19:42,519
Speaker 5: I was just.

1492
01:19:45,040 --> 01:19:47,200
Speaker 1: I don't even asked that. I didn't even ask that

1493
01:19:47,240 --> 01:19:50,400
Speaker 1: fishing for a Roselle answer. I just straight forgot.

1494
01:19:51,560 --> 01:19:52,200
Speaker 4: I know that name.

1495
01:19:52,560 --> 01:19:53,280
Speaker 2: Sorry, Roselle.

1496
01:19:54,200 --> 01:19:57,599
Speaker 3: Look, I even did a record for rosel I did

1497
01:19:57,640 --> 01:20:00,519
Speaker 3: one win him for a d J. Hawston be out

1498
01:20:00,560 --> 01:20:05,560
Speaker 3: in Japan, And I said, yeah, let's do I think Rozelle.

1499
01:20:06,080 --> 01:20:09,639
Speaker 3: I think scratch Man was just I mean, I mean

1500
01:20:09,680 --> 01:20:14,920
Speaker 3: as far as being like like so authentic and real

1501
01:20:15,040 --> 01:20:19,439
Speaker 3: and the way he sound. I just I so much

1502
01:20:19,600 --> 01:20:22,759
Speaker 3: loved the way he sound. I mean I was always

1503
01:20:22,840 --> 01:20:27,200
Speaker 3: so impressed with him, and and just out of a

1504
01:20:28,439 --> 01:20:32,599
Speaker 3: you know, to me, it's really I mean those two

1505
01:20:32,680 --> 01:20:34,519
Speaker 3: and Kenny X, I like a lot.

1506
01:20:34,720 --> 01:20:37,200
Speaker 2: I forgot about Kennedy. Yes, shout out to Kenny X.

1507
01:20:37,479 --> 01:20:40,479
Speaker 1: Have you ever battled Buffy at all? Like, have you

1508
01:20:40,520 --> 01:20:43,479
Speaker 1: guys ever been on the stage together and did something?

1509
01:20:43,640 --> 01:20:46,960
Speaker 3: Or we were supposed to at Brighton High School in

1510
01:20:47,120 --> 01:20:49,839
Speaker 3: eighty three or eighty four. I'll send you a flyer

1511
01:20:50,880 --> 01:20:54,559
Speaker 3: and they put us on the Flyer dst was there,

1512
01:20:55,240 --> 01:20:57,240
Speaker 3: Red Alert was supposed to be there, and this was

1513
01:20:57,280 --> 01:20:59,800
Speaker 3: before there was records, and they was calling him just go.

1514
01:21:00,040 --> 01:21:01,439
Speaker 4: Three and uh.

1515
01:21:01,960 --> 01:21:04,040
Speaker 3: And I went down there because I didn't even know

1516
01:21:04,080 --> 01:21:06,240
Speaker 3: that they had to set up for me to do that.

1517
01:21:06,600 --> 01:21:09,439
Speaker 3: So I came in there and I seen him and

1518
01:21:09,520 --> 01:21:14,080
Speaker 3: I said, y'all want to do this tonight? And I've

1519
01:21:14,120 --> 01:21:16,759
Speaker 3: got said that. I said, so I'm I'm aa battle

1520
01:21:16,880 --> 01:21:20,280
Speaker 3: him and then I'm gonna take y'all two out. And

1521
01:21:20,400 --> 01:21:23,040
Speaker 3: you know, because because because it was it was fun.

1522
01:21:23,160 --> 01:21:26,120
Speaker 3: It's not like we was fighting. It was just about you.

1523
01:21:26,560 --> 01:21:30,680
Speaker 3: And then afterwards it never happened. And then we did

1524
01:21:30,720 --> 01:21:34,920
Speaker 3: a couple of shows together and we never did and

1525
01:21:34,960 --> 01:21:38,000
Speaker 3: I never really had any interest in doing it anymore

1526
01:21:38,160 --> 01:21:43,439
Speaker 3: because I mean, Buffy was such a good guy and

1527
01:21:43,560 --> 01:21:48,679
Speaker 3: such a nice person that it was like, Yo, man,

1528
01:21:49,479 --> 01:21:52,680
Speaker 3: I don't feel good about battling this guy, you know

1529
01:21:52,720 --> 01:21:56,760
Speaker 3: what I mean? He has such a beautiful spirit. And

1530
01:21:56,880 --> 01:22:00,919
Speaker 3: anybody that knew Buffy knew he was just a nice person.

1531
01:22:01,360 --> 01:22:03,760
Speaker 3: And me and MARKI D got into a little bit

1532
01:22:03,760 --> 01:22:08,080
Speaker 3: of an argument one time because when the show came out,

1533
01:22:08,320 --> 01:22:12,080
Speaker 3: he was very he he was looking at like you know,

1534
01:22:12,240 --> 01:22:14,000
Speaker 3: like he was the one, he was the voice of

1535
01:22:14,080 --> 01:22:17,640
Speaker 3: the group, and he looked wanted to challenge me. And

1536
01:22:17,680 --> 01:22:19,960
Speaker 3: then after a while, you know, he was barking a

1537
01:22:19,960 --> 01:22:22,519
Speaker 3: little bit and going at it. And then I said, yo,

1538
01:22:23,360 --> 01:22:25,160
Speaker 3: I don't even have to beat box. Do you want

1539
01:22:25,200 --> 01:22:28,920
Speaker 3: to battle rhyming? Do you want to do that? And

1540
01:22:28,960 --> 01:22:30,600
Speaker 3: he just didn't want he didn't want to do that.

1541
01:22:30,840 --> 01:22:34,240
Speaker 3: And so after that, because I come from a battle era,

1542
01:22:34,560 --> 01:22:37,839
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, from the foundation of battle.

1543
01:22:37,960 --> 01:22:40,320
Speaker 3: Like I told you, I'm on the side of the

1544
01:22:40,360 --> 01:22:43,439
Speaker 3: stage when Moji and Busy beat Battle.

1545
01:22:43,840 --> 01:22:47,080
Speaker 4: I'm the only kid that can say I was there.

1546
01:22:47,120 --> 01:22:50,599
Speaker 3: I was like fourteen, I was I didn't even supposed

1547
01:22:50,600 --> 01:22:52,680
Speaker 3: to be in there, and I'm on the side of

1548
01:22:52,720 --> 01:22:55,040
Speaker 3: the stage while that's going down.

1549
01:22:55,439 --> 01:22:57,040
Speaker 4: So I was at that battle.

1550
01:22:57,080 --> 01:23:00,000
Speaker 3: I was at the battle with Cold Crushed Battle and Fantastic,

1551
01:23:00,640 --> 01:23:05,800
Speaker 3: you know. So the things that I've learned from from

1552
01:23:05,840 --> 01:23:08,280
Speaker 3: just being in that area. And then I was in

1553
01:23:08,400 --> 01:23:12,280
Speaker 3: that contest in eighty one, in the amateur contest.

1554
01:23:13,040 --> 01:23:16,120
Speaker 4: So that's the way we came up.

1555
01:23:16,720 --> 01:23:20,880
Speaker 3: You had to battle, but then as you grow, you evolved,

1556
01:23:20,880 --> 01:23:22,160
Speaker 3: so it wasn't about battling.

1557
01:23:22,240 --> 01:23:25,760
Speaker 4: And then me and Marky d became the best of friends.

1558
01:23:26,120 --> 01:23:29,120
Speaker 3: We would hang out live and then what happened is

1559
01:23:29,160 --> 01:23:33,160
Speaker 3: when Buffy passed, I did Tom join a cruise and

1560
01:23:33,280 --> 01:23:36,679
Speaker 3: I wanted boys on there, and I said, we got

1561
01:23:36,680 --> 01:23:38,840
Speaker 3: to get them on this cruise. So I got them on.

1562
01:23:39,439 --> 01:23:41,479
Speaker 3: And when I got him on, I said, Yo, let's

1563
01:23:41,479 --> 01:23:45,120
Speaker 3: do bitter to stick them and let's do it. Wow,

1564
01:23:45,760 --> 01:23:50,200
Speaker 3: that's right, And we did and it was me Kourokski

1565
01:23:51,000 --> 01:23:54,920
Speaker 3: and Prince Marky did and we took pictures together and man,

1566
01:23:55,000 --> 01:23:56,000
Speaker 3: those are my brothers.

1567
01:23:56,120 --> 01:24:02,000
Speaker 4: Man, it was.

1568
01:24:01,120 --> 01:24:02,760
Speaker 5: He's gone too sus a lot.

1569
01:24:03,040 --> 01:24:07,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, ok, brother, God, thank you. Look, if you ever

1570
01:24:07,360 --> 01:24:11,240
Speaker 1: you must open up another restaurant and share that cornbread recipe.

1571
01:24:11,280 --> 01:24:15,040
Speaker 1: But that's a whole other episode. Doug has the worlds.

1572
01:24:15,240 --> 01:24:17,320
Speaker 1: When he had his restaurant in Harlem, he had the

1573
01:24:17,360 --> 01:24:19,080
Speaker 1: world's best corn bread.

1574
01:24:21,320 --> 01:24:26,120
Speaker 2: He look, this was yeah, this was three five years ago. Anyway, Doug,

1575
01:24:26,160 --> 01:24:27,040
Speaker 2: I think, if you're doing.

1576
01:24:26,920 --> 01:24:31,200
Speaker 3: This, look and then you yo. When he said somebody said,

1577
01:24:31,240 --> 01:24:35,000
Speaker 3: everybody said your man, your man, quest said your man

1578
01:24:35,120 --> 01:24:39,559
Speaker 3: outside of Lottie, Dottie Shure whatever. One of the most

1579
01:24:39,920 --> 01:24:46,160
Speaker 3: unbelievable contributions he haven't made the world is this corn bread?

1580
01:24:46,280 --> 01:24:51,160
Speaker 1: And look, I was sending interns from the tonight show.

1581
01:24:51,280 --> 01:24:58,120
Speaker 1: I was sending interns to the I was sending girl's name,

1582
01:24:58,360 --> 01:24:59,800
Speaker 1: Ashley the Harlor.

1583
01:25:01,320 --> 01:25:03,280
Speaker 2: Corn bread corn bread.

1584
01:25:03,840 --> 01:25:06,439
Speaker 4: They call it crack corn bread in the hall.

1585
01:25:06,439 --> 01:25:11,960
Speaker 2: Ass it's worth breaking your diet for.

1586
01:25:12,920 --> 01:25:15,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I may, I may. We may have to do

1587
01:25:15,280 --> 01:25:18,120
Speaker 3: that one day. Just be just a little piece hot.

1588
01:25:18,240 --> 01:25:22,080
Speaker 1: Hot yeah, just one one, one cheat day. Thank you

1589
01:25:22,120 --> 01:25:23,040
Speaker 1: for doing this episode.

1590
01:25:23,080 --> 01:25:25,400
Speaker 2: All right, this is the It's illi it. Thank you.

1591
01:25:25,640 --> 01:25:30,519
Speaker 1: We love you, do y'all.

1592
01:25:28,600 --> 01:25:44,960
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1593
01:25:48,880 --> 01:25:52,000
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1594
01:25:52,240 --> 01:25:55,280
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