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Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL podcast, Keep our names out of

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Speaker 1: your models. Welcome to another edition of Around the NFL.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hanss. I come to you from

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Speaker 1: a virtual room filled with just one hero, but it's

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Speaker 1: a special one. They're all special. Gregg is a special hero.

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Speaker 1: Gregg Rosenthalt, what's up, buddy? I mean, am I special?

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Speaker 1: At least on this show? It's not that special. Mark

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Speaker 1: Cessler not with us today. Hope to have him back

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Speaker 1: on Thursday. But we are rolling Greggy. The rookies for

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Speaker 1: the Raiders, Bills, Falcons, Ravens, Chargers, Dolphins, Patriots, Saints, Giants,

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Speaker 1: and Jets have all reported. Raiders Veterans report tomorrow. I

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Speaker 1: checked with Grave Digger to see if anybody's reporting late,

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Speaker 1: but he said no, it's more locked in schedule, so

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Speaker 1: I can't eliminate any teams from championship contention on July. No.

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Speaker 1: I noticed that it's the disappointing all the teams show

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Speaker 1: than the Hall of Fame UH teams who you get

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Speaker 1: that week where it's like, UH football is back, like

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Speaker 1: in three months, and it's like campus starting, but they're

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Speaker 1: actually quietly. It still is kind of a one more

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Speaker 1: And uh, we will be resuming our three shows a

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Speaker 1: you caught up to date on what's going on. Not

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Speaker 1: a lot right now other than obviously, uh, teams and

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Speaker 1: the long running series in the history of around the NFL,

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Speaker 1: the longest running series perhaps tied with maybe some others,

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Speaker 1: to get help from you and our friend Bill barn Welcome, Yes,

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Speaker 1: Bill Barnwell coming back to the show. And a little bit.

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Speaker 1: And that is a little misleading if you're if you're

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Speaker 1: But in some cases, Greg, I think it does help

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Speaker 1: Something stinks down south, and I don't mean the Tennessee

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Speaker 1: some news. So now Lamar and able to get out

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Speaker 1: Joe Tessa Tour with the call Lamar Miller ninety seven

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Speaker 1: Lamar Miller two thousand thirteen making the Leap copy, and

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Speaker 1: then in two thousand sixteen, after four frustrating but tantalizing

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Speaker 1: another show greg Um until the off season that follows this.

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Speaker 1: had eleven career pass attempts. Was the backup all training

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Speaker 1: camp until turn Green. I believe to his A c

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Speaker 1: L were like Brett no one had ever heard of.

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Speaker 1: Like when he was I remember the first game Warner started,

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Speaker 1: I was like, who's Kurt Warner? No, no one, no

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Speaker 1: one really knew him. And that would be the case

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Speaker 1: with Brett Rippon unless you're like a Mark Crippen fan.

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Speaker 1: You were writing the rotal World word for Kurt Warner,

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Speaker 1: saying Joe dre Made is coming in in two weeks,

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Speaker 1: Joe Jr. Main priority way for pickup. And I mean

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Speaker 1: it was incredible. You know, it's one of the most

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Speaker 1: incredible stories I think in recent NFL history. And I think,

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Speaker 1: you know, I brought up Bret Rippon because even Brett

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Speaker 1: Rippon is so much more likely to be a useful

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Speaker 1: player than Kurt Warner was. It's just so incredible and

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Speaker 1: so out of nowhere. And I think at this point,

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Speaker 1: you know, working back twenty years, it's so hard to

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Speaker 1: find a good comparison there. History is instructive, and the

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Speaker 1: social media people, they you know, that's what they're paid

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Speaker 1: to do, find the hookies thing. But sometimes you know,

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Speaker 1: for the copy pounders like us. You'd like to have

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Speaker 1: something that the reader that the reader kind of you

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Speaker 1: work your way to that spot and it's like, whoa,

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Speaker 1: that's fun. Like just a perfect case in point the

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Speaker 1: Superstar Club and NFL dot Com Last week, I justin

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Speaker 1: Tucker the last he was the Grand Finale, And what

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Speaker 1: do you think is to sell all over NFL and

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Speaker 1: it's uh, you know, connected properties. Justin Tucker, what are

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Speaker 1: you gonna do? Yeah, well, keep pounding. I think it's

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Speaker 1: what we're gonna do. We're just like the Carolina Panthers

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Speaker 1: here on around the NFL trademark infringement intended. All right, now,

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Speaker 1: Greg needs help. That's how I took this. I took

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Speaker 1: this as um was rewatching Titanic for the first time

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Speaker 1: in many years with my nieces here on the Jersey shore.

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Speaker 1: And when they just start sending up those flares after

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Speaker 1: the iceberg hit, it's already too late. They're doomed and

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Speaker 1: Carpathias like four hours away. Here's the good news, Greg,

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Speaker 1: we are the Carpathia. Me and bar barn Well, we

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Speaker 1: are not four hours away. We're right here for you

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Speaker 1: now because you need help with the two thousand and

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Speaker 1: twenty two making the leap class. That's how I took this.

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Speaker 1: Is that correct or incorrect? That that's correct. I think

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Speaker 1: we're also like the band on the Titanic as people

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Speaker 1: who are trying to be copy pounders in two, like

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Speaker 1: getting people to read long form stuff on the internet.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm doing making the Leap and I thought

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Speaker 1: Bill would be this year. They want me to do

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Speaker 1: one per team. I did that last year and so

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Speaker 1: I'm doing one per team at Bill I thought would

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Speaker 1: be a fun guy. And you you as well to

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Speaker 1: help me narrow it down per team. Well, he's the

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Speaker 1: special guest. You're always here, So yeah, I'm gonna as well.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you're always here. This is what's different. And

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Speaker 1: we run through a bunch of the teams that are

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Speaker 1: a little harder to do. So I'm just gonna dive in.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna mention some of the teams that I already

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Speaker 1: think I know where I'm going. Like Bill, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: gonna be one per team. Yeah, okay, I I don't

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Speaker 1: know if we'll go through all. We'll just talk some

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Speaker 1: of the more interesting teams. Um. But in the a

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Speaker 1: f C S I really like Ed Oliver. I think

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go go with him. I feel like he

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Speaker 1: already broke out, but people didn't notice. Jets, I'm going

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Speaker 1: with your boy, Elijah More most likely, I wanted to

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Speaker 1: start with the Pats because, if nothing else, this made

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Speaker 1: me feel a little bit better about the Pats roster

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Speaker 1: that they have actually a bunch of options, which not

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Speaker 1: a lot of not every team does. And uh, I'll

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Speaker 1: throw the is by you Bill and Dan Kyle Dugger.

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Speaker 1: Uh their safety who's a playmaker, Christian Barmore who had

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Speaker 1: an incredible rookie season. Then you get then you get

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Speaker 1: to the point, did he already make the leap? Is

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Speaker 1: that not not big enough to take josh Uch Amina

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Speaker 1: Kim's favorite who they really need to step up sort

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Speaker 1: of as a pass rusher, Romandri Stevenson, one of the

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Speaker 1: best rookie running backs in the league last year, and

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Speaker 1: not even throwing Kendrick Borne, who might be their number

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Speaker 1: one receiver. So unlike a lot of teams, I feel

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Speaker 1: like they have a lot of good options. Where would

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Speaker 1: you go, Bill? I I think I would go josh

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Speaker 1: Uch here because I think they really need a linebacker

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Speaker 1: to step up. I mean Jamie Collins, Dante high Tower,

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Speaker 1: Kyle van Noy all gone. And that's a lot of

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Speaker 1: not just reps, not just staffs, which just brain power.

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Speaker 1: You know, those are guys who were really the brains

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Speaker 1: of that defense in so many ways at the second level.

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Speaker 1: And I think for Josh Uch, you know, we've seen

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Speaker 1: him almost exclusively play on the edge. So to me,

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Speaker 1: I think the question is, you know, can he be

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Speaker 1: a guy who plays in the middle as well? Can

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Speaker 1: he be a three down linebacker? Can he do more

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Speaker 1: than just rushed the pastor because I think Bill donald

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Speaker 1: Chick wants his linebackers to be able to do that,

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Speaker 1: but he doesn't want that to be the only thing

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Speaker 1: they do. So to me, I think, you know, Josh

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Speaker 1: ch I I think the lead for him is just

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Speaker 1: does he have more than what he's shown so far?

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Speaker 1: Canny play a bigger role, because I think that's the

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Speaker 1: difference between him being a guy who's one and done

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Speaker 1: in terms of contracts on this roster or a guy

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Speaker 1: who sticks around for a second deal. I I would

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Speaker 1: go with bar More. I think you look at what

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Speaker 1: he did last year, how he came on and got

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Speaker 1: better and better. He had more hurries last year. Um

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Speaker 1: Or had more pressures last year than Aaron Donald as

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Speaker 1: a rookie, and he came on against the run. He

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Speaker 1: has his past rushing grade on PFF was really jacked

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Speaker 1: up in the second half of the season. So you

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Speaker 1: know he's the second rounder, right, So it's one of

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Speaker 1: those As a Patriots hater you could call me, these

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Speaker 1: are the type of guys that they find an unearthed

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Speaker 1: and become big time players for you know, several seasons.

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Speaker 1: So he would be my pick. Can I push back

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Speaker 1: on Uh, it's not really a pushback, but I like

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Speaker 1: gave Davis with Buffalo, I know you got it Oliver

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Speaker 1: in there. I think there's I think you nailed it

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Speaker 1: with the Jets even though you don't even have Zach

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Speaker 1: Wilson is like a under consideration and the word document. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I sent you a document of like candidates for it's

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Speaker 1: just weird. I have to believe in him, and I

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Speaker 1: you know, I don't know, but if Elijah Moore has

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Speaker 1: a huge season, Zach Wilson probably takes a big step.

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Speaker 1: But anyway, gave Davis with Cole Beasley out of there,

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Speaker 1: um I think that's that's a big part Emmanuel Sanders

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Speaker 1: out of the picture what he did in the playoff

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Speaker 1: game against the chief Sometimes I get caught in this personally, Bill,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, um if you do too. When a

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Speaker 1: player has a huge breakout game in the postseason, I

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Speaker 1: think that's a natural leaping point. It doesn't always play

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Speaker 1: out that way, but the way he he stepped up

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Speaker 1: on the biggest stage there, that's stuck with me. I

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Speaker 1: think about that route where he just broke Mike used

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Speaker 1: his ankles once a week. I literally watched it two

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Speaker 1: days ago. I learned up next Gen and I was

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Speaker 1: just like, I'm gonna watch this route ten times in

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Speaker 1: a row. I gave Davis. Think is so interesting because

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Speaker 1: if you look at and I realized, this is not

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Speaker 1: a fantasy football podcast. So I apologize for bringing something

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Speaker 1: we we we tried to pepper in the Fantasy advice.

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Speaker 1: This time of year especially, we will have the Fantasy

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Speaker 1: Spectacular coming up next month is the tent the annual,

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Speaker 1: ninth annual. Who even really knows who can count that far?

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Speaker 1: But Dave Davis is like going in the fourth or

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Speaker 1: fifth round of Best Ball Draft right now? He is

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Speaker 1: what really he's going to be. Yeah, he's going he's

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Speaker 1: going to be a real difference maker and immediate superstar.

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Speaker 1: And I think you know, to your point, I feel

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Speaker 1: like that is that is really just something that is

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Speaker 1: a product of that last game. I think if he

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Speaker 1: had had a nice ad R game in his final

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Speaker 1: postation game, he was good, but not four touchdowns and

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Speaker 1: an other worldly I think he'd be going a couple

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Speaker 1: of rounds later, even given the huge opportunity there is

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Speaker 1: to not be the number two receiver in that offense.

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Speaker 1: So I you know, I'm optimistic about his chances, but

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Speaker 1: I don't know he's going to be the guy who

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Speaker 1: I think people are are counting on that high in

583
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Speaker 1: fantasy football drups. Yeah, I would not take him that high.

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Speaker 1: He's sort of the obvious pick. I just feel like

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Speaker 1: Ed Oliver there was that that class of defensive tackles

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Speaker 1: who they've taken turns, who's played well, and I think

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Speaker 1: people didn't really notice that Ed Oliver finally looked like

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Speaker 1: a top ten pick in the second half last year.

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Speaker 1: And so he's just someone I sort of want to highlight.

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Speaker 1: That's what this is about too. I'm kind of leaning

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Speaker 1: bar more, though I'm with you on nuche they need,

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Speaker 1: they need more out of him, and that's what I

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Speaker 1: hope as a Pats fan, and he hasn't played much.

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Speaker 1: I think I'm just scarred by the Chase Winovich era,

595
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Speaker 1: where like per Snap, he was one of the best

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Speaker 1: pass rushers in the league and they would never put

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Speaker 1: him on the field. And that's a little bit what

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Speaker 1: has been like the last couple of years. And there

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Speaker 1: are different types of making the leaps, and I try

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Speaker 1: to I try to balance it out. You want some

601
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Speaker 1: good names, some big names. That's some selling pat you

602
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Speaker 1: want some coming out of nowhere. You're gonna end up

603
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Speaker 1: having a lot of receivers because I'm basic, uh, and

604
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Speaker 1: so they're just they're just easier guys to pick. But

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Speaker 1: you also want some leaps from like a guy like

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Speaker 1: bar or who. It's not like I'm like putting on

607
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Speaker 1: my great scouting hat and saying, like this guy is

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Speaker 1: gonna be a player, Like everyone already knows that who

609
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Speaker 1: watched the Patriots. But I think he's got a legitimate

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Speaker 1: chance to be like a superstar. So that would be

611
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Speaker 1: a big leap going from great rookie year to one

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Speaker 1: of the very best in the entire league, and then

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Speaker 1: you know, you only remember your hits, you only bring

614
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Speaker 1: up your hits in the future. So midway through the season,

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Speaker 1: when Barmore's making that mid season All Pro Team, I

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Speaker 1: I'll say, remember back on that show back in July, Dan,

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Speaker 1: you told me to pick Barmore. We failed it. Let's

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Speaker 1: keep rolling here. Yeah, I didn't mention the Dolphins. By

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Speaker 1: the way, I think I'm gonna do the either Javon

620
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Speaker 1: Holland or maybe their entire offensive line because their offensive

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Speaker 1: line was so bad. I think the coaching help uh

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Speaker 1: Ravens kind of looking at Adolpha oh way, it's probably

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Speaker 1: my favorite. Bengals is weirdly a tough team to find candidates,

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Speaker 1: just because they're all there. Logan Wilson doesn't get enough

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Speaker 1: uh pop rounds. I'm leaning Aussa Coramoa over Greg Newson,

626
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 1: but the Steelers for good options. Naj Harris Miles Jack

627
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Speaker 1: with the rare like seven or eight years into his career,

628
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 1: but everyone forgot about him and now he's a free

629
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Speaker 1: agent making the league. But I think he could do it.

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Speaker 1: Chase Claypool, who recently said he thinks he's the top

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Speaker 1: three receiver in the league, and Alex Highsmith, who's quietly

632
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Speaker 1: put up a lot of production across from t J.

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Speaker 1: Four good options, which is a good sign for the

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Speaker 1: Steelers that they have that many options. Where would you go?

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Speaker 1: I The problem is I have to believe in the

636
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Speaker 1: player right that's here, and I think the guy who

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Speaker 1: comes to mind from you is actually none of those guys.

638
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Speaker 1: That Dan Moore, who is left tackle, I think was

639
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 1: last in ESPN's past Block Win Right rankings last year,

640
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 1: so not great, But I mean that organization did not

641
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 1: replace him. They did not supplement him. They believe in

642
00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 1: him as a starting left tackle. And I think the Steelers,

643
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 1: given their drafting and development history over the past forty years,

644
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 1: I'm not not saying that they're always right, not saying that,

645
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:08,480
Speaker 1: just said they were last. Is that a shot at

646
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:10,880
Speaker 1: the whoever came up with past block win Ray at

647
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:14,239
Speaker 1: ESPN like they might be listening and being like, come on,

648
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 1: barn well, I I think he's gonna get better. Is

649
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 1: he gonna get better enough to be a franchise left tackle?

650
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:22,000
Speaker 1: That's a tough question. But you know, I think last

651
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:24,440
Speaker 1: year with Ben Roethlisberger was okay, Ben can't move, but

652
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 1: at least he knows what's coming. At least he has

653
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:28,440
Speaker 1: a good sense of where the rush is going to be.

654
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:30,919
Speaker 1: Now it's Mitch Robiski. Now it's Kenny Pickett, who can move,

655
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:33,759
Speaker 1: but who are not as as sort of season as

656
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger. So it's can then Moore protect the blind

657
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:40,399
Speaker 1: side of two young quarterbacks? And if he can, that's

658
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:42,359
Speaker 1: a huge difference maker for a team that you know

659
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:44,320
Speaker 1: does not have a lot of cap space to spend.

660
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 1: It's certainly not invested heavily in their offensive line. Um,

661
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 1: I think that's the most interesting player I'm watching heading

662
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:52,400
Speaker 1: into your two. I'm just not sure if I believe

663
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 1: in him. I'm going to Claypool here. Um, he was

664
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:58,440
Speaker 1: electrifying as a rookie and a skill set just like

665
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 1: jumps off this green. When you watch him, sometimes I

666
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 1: wonder is he a little bit of a knucklehead? And

667
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 1: and and is he a fit with the Steelers? I

668
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:08,840
Speaker 1: don't know. And you look at the numbers he declined

669
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:10,759
Speaker 1: at least he only had two touchdowns last year. But

670
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 1: you know it's all there, and you know that it couldn't.

671
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:15,879
Speaker 1: I know they don't. They're not settled at quarterback now

672
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:18,760
Speaker 1: or we don't know yet with Trabinsky and maybe Kenny

673
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:21,279
Speaker 1: Picket and maybe a dash of Rudolph. But anything I

674
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 1: think is better than dead Ben like that, if I

675
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 1: had to take a chance on a guy that may

676
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:30,919
Speaker 1: be disappointed uh last season a little bit. I'm making

677
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 1: a big jump and making the leap and becoming like

678
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 1: an all pro I'm not saying top three like he thinks,

679
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 1: but becoming a pro Bowl type talent. Clay Pools my

680
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:42,440
Speaker 1: guy there. I I think I'm a top three podcaster

681
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:46,959
Speaker 1: on this show. Personally. I mean you went off the board, Bill,

682
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,840
Speaker 1: I'm not sure. I mean it was good analysis, definitely

683
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 1: the first dan More pop we've given all offseason, and

684
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 1: it is a big story for them, their offensive line

685
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:56,759
Speaker 1: in general. You didn't mention Pat fryar Muth either. He's

686
00:35:56,760 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 1: a little saucy. Oh yeah, I should have. Actually, people

687
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:03,319
Speaker 1: love people love the Fireman. I think Jack could be

688
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:07,239
Speaker 1: a sneaky, big pick up for them because you just

689
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:09,880
Speaker 1: don't like Devon Bush. I think Devin Bush is ultimately

690
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 1: going to get replaced bench by him. He's a weird

691
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:16,280
Speaker 1: pick here. Highsmith gets some Yeah, I friar Muth actually

692
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 1: might be the guy and he wasn't listed, so I

693
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:25,319
Speaker 1: take back nag is too too much of a basic pick,

694
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:29,319
Speaker 1: although you know his per per cary numbers weren't great.

695
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 1: I wanted to throw in, uh, Davis Mills Texans conversation,

696
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:36,719
Speaker 1: He's probably gonna be the pick for the Texans, just

697
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 1: because I I just personally am We haven't talked Davis

698
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:42,319
Speaker 1: Mills like all off season, and I'm just kind of

699
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:45,320
Speaker 1: curious for your take, Bill, And just you know, Nico

700
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 1: Collins would be another guy they're talking up. I know

701
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:51,719
Speaker 1: our friend Nate Tys really likes Taviarra Thomas. Who's a cornerback,

702
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:55,239
Speaker 1: Who's who's fighting for playing time? There? They they I

703
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:58,320
Speaker 1: did projected starters a couple of months ago, and their

704
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 1: defense was easily the hardest side of the football to

705
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 1: project on all thirty two teams. Like it was just

706
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:09,880
Speaker 1: like what I I don't know who is starting on

707
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:12,279
Speaker 1: this point, so it's hard to predict to making the

708
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 1: leap out of that group. Where are you in terms

709
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:19,840
Speaker 1: of your Davis Mills belief, I'm not high. I have

710
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:22,440
Speaker 1: to admit, you know, I think that five game stretch

711
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:24,919
Speaker 1: to end this season. You know, hey, numbers were fine,

712
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:28,759
Speaker 1: pretty good. By all accounts, defenses he were playing not

713
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:32,400
Speaker 1: specially impressive, and to be fair, the defensive played as

714
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:34,800
Speaker 1: a starter earlier in the season were a lot tougher,

715
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 1: So there was a high bar early in the campaign.

716
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 1: But I would really discount that a little bit based

717
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 1: on the defenses he played towards the end of the year.

718
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:45,319
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that you throw him out, not saying

719
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:46,799
Speaker 1: that you never give him a chance again. But I

720
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:50,319
Speaker 1: think the organization saying he's our guy, at least for

721
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 1: this year. We're not going to make any other move

722
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 1: to try and make a significant alternative here. I'm a

723
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:57,880
Speaker 1: little skeptical of To be fair, I will say I

724
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 1: am writing right now for ESPN. I'm doing my off

725
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:06,359
Speaker 1: season rankings of skilled position players for each team. The

726
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 1: Texans were thirty two last year, and I don't think

727
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:11,839
Speaker 1: the Texans, I don't want to spoil anything. I don't

728
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:14,440
Speaker 1: think they're moving too far off that spot this year.

729
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:17,719
Speaker 1: So I think for Davis Mills, decent offensive line, but

730
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 1: the weapons not really there, and so I think you

731
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 1: know that is going to hurt any quarterback. We'll get

732
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 1: to another quarterback later on. I think who has an

733
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:28,400
Speaker 1: even worse situation. But I do think that for Davis Mills,

734
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:31,840
Speaker 1: you know, I think he's playing with half of a

735
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 1: hand tied behind his back. Maybe I think he could

736
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 1: certainly use more help than what he has. I actually

737
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 1: went with Brevin Jordan's here where I think it's a question,

738
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:41,960
Speaker 1: you know, is he just a guy who's playing because

739
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:43,600
Speaker 1: they have no other options to tight end? I think

740
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 1: their back up as Anthony all Claire or is he

741
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:47,799
Speaker 1: a guy who is a good athlete who can be

742
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 1: a player who you know, even if he's not, you're

743
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:52,879
Speaker 1: in mind tight end who plays a thousand stafs? Can

744
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:54,799
Speaker 1: he be an athletic tight end who makes place for you?

745
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:56,920
Speaker 1: And I think that is something the Texans have to

746
00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:58,799
Speaker 1: figure out this year. What they're receiving corp is okay,

747
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:00,799
Speaker 1: we have Brandon Cooks, but who else is playing in

748
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 1: our offense three years from now besides the star former

749
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:06,880
Speaker 1: Rams wide receiver. You want to shine the light on

750
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:08,880
Speaker 1: anybody else in the a f C South ride before

751
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:11,879
Speaker 1: we move on? No, No, I was gonna just I'll

752
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:16,920
Speaker 1: quickly you know, Pitt Pittman, probably the Colts, maybe Quitty

753
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 1: pay Trevor Lawrence. You gotta get like I said, you

754
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 1: gotta have it. You gotta have some star power here.

755
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 1: That's that's someone you can sell the article with Trevor Lawrence.

756
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:28,280
Speaker 1: Titans bad. Another bad sign for your Titans grave digger

757
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:30,839
Speaker 1: that they didn't really have any good options. I might

758
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 1: go with like their young cornerback duo Christin Fulton and

759
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 1: Elijah Molden kind of do a package deal. Let's move

760
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 1: to the if I had to, if my life was

761
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:41,799
Speaker 1: on the line and I had to nail one of

762
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 1: these for making the leap, and it is basic, but

763
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:47,400
Speaker 1: it's a good sell. I think Trevor Lawrence is gonna

764
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:49,440
Speaker 1: make a substantial leap this year. That would be my

765
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 1: pick if I had to put it all on the line. Anyway,

766
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 1: I like to hear your guy's choice as well before

767
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 1: the end of this exercise. Okay, mine, mine might be

768
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 1: the next guy. Um Jerry Judy and a Broncos. Now,

769
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:07,719
Speaker 1: certain would be an easy pick there. He already was.

770
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:15,360
Speaker 1: I mean I don't necessarily he obviously had. You know,

771
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 1: he had the disturbing off field UM arrest this offseason,

772
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 1: which which got thrown out. Doesn't seem like he's gonna

773
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 1: get um punished by the NFL. He and even just

774
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 1: in terms of what you've heard from the Beat writers

775
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 1: in terms of his attitude on the field and some

776
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:32,560
Speaker 1: of the things coaches have said, there are some questions

777
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:36,240
Speaker 1: about maturity there um, which which makes you worried. Albert

778
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:39,440
Speaker 1: oh is another name I would throw, but I just

779
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:43,360
Speaker 1: sort of trust. You gotta trust your eyes with certain things.

780
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:47,960
Speaker 1: And he moves in such a way that so few

781
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 1: people in the NFL move. And I just think getting

782
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:55,839
Speaker 1: open is the is the most bankable asset that any

783
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:59,319
Speaker 1: receiver can have, and he does that really well. And

784
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 1: now he's gonna upgrade at quarterback. As much as I

785
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:04,400
Speaker 1: like Teddy, it is an upgrade here to Russell Wilson,

786
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 1: and to me, I think if I'm picking any of

787
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 1: those guys, I know it's a deep receiver group, but

788
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 1: I think Judy benefits from Wilson being there the most.

789
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:16,400
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just a lowly copy pounder, so I

790
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:20,279
Speaker 1: don't have the eyes to examine the way players move.

791
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:23,360
Speaker 1: That is a art form that I could not possibly

792
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 1: look to us a litleg copy pounder. But my question

793
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 1: for Jerry Judy is this, Like, yes, Jerry Judy has

794
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:31,440
Speaker 1: had middling, maybe bad quarterbacks his first three years in

795
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 1: the NFL at first two years in the NFL. Compare

796
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:36,319
Speaker 1: that to someone like Terry McLaren, who's had even worst

797
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:39,840
Speaker 1: quarterbacks and been more productive. Michael Pittman has had similar

798
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:43,759
Speaker 1: quarterbacks and been more productive. I mean, guys, you know,

799
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:46,359
Speaker 1: I think the argument that Jerry Judy will get those

800
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 1: first two years out because he was playing with crappy quarterbacks, like,

801
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 1: there are other teams with other players who have had

802
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 1: worst quarterbacks who have been more productive. So to me,

803
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 1: I think I'm cautiously optimistic about Jerry Judy, but I

804
00:41:57,239 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 1: think that's sort of just plug and play. Oh, we're

805
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 1: inserting Russell in, he's gonna get thirteen Huntrey yards. I don't.

806
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:05,359
Speaker 1: I'm not with you on Allen Robinson before he kind

807
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:08,319
Speaker 1: of quit last year. Another guy. You know, the guys

808
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 1: that are really studs. They find a way to get

809
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 1: the numbers. But he's also a guy. You remember his

810
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:14,920
Speaker 1: last game against the Raiders when he had five catches

811
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 1: for a hundred and forty yards. It's all there, But

812
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 1: you're putting your life on the one Greg Well, yeah,

813
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:21,960
Speaker 1: I also think he's like just much more. He's more

814
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:24,920
Speaker 1: talented than than Courtland, Sutton and Hamler and Patrick. I

815
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 1: think he's he's the one, um, but you're not gonna

816
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:30,759
Speaker 1: put mvs is the making the leap guy for the

817
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs? Like why not? It's just because he

818
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:35,920
Speaker 1: just had Aaron Rodgers on his team for years and

819
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:37,759
Speaker 1: he was always a tantalizing the guy, but it just

820
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:39,239
Speaker 1: never put it together. Why is he now going to

821
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 1: put it together now? Because they need him, because they

822
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 1: need him, because his role is gonna change, see him, Yeah,

823
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 1: they need him so did so do the Packers, but

824
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 1: it never really happened. Yeah, how is his role going

825
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 1: to change in Kansas City? He's not going to be

826
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:54,839
Speaker 1: like a three levels receiver just because they need him

827
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 1: to be one. Like, well, that's what you know. You're right,

828
00:42:57,600 --> 00:42:59,440
Speaker 1: I might be falling for the O T A stuff,

829
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:01,719
Speaker 1: but that is really like the ot SU was like there,

830
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 1: now he's gonna be a three level receiver like you

831
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 1: been doing this twenty years, my friend. It's a fair point.

832
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 1: A lot of it is opportunity though, and I and

833
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:13,319
Speaker 1: I do think for because of the money that they

834
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 1: gave him, uh and because he's a long term piece there,

835
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 1: that he is going to have a lot of opportunities

836
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 1: and for him making the lake would be nine yards

837
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:26,280
Speaker 1: I mean, and and make a bunch of big plays

838
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 1: in prime time. It doesn't need to be uh, some

839
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:31,880
Speaker 1: massive thing. And I could see it where he feels

840
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 1: like you know, people were saying Tyreek Hill many, the many.

841
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 1: One of the many reasons why they will miss Tyreek

842
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:40,960
Speaker 1: Hill is you know the four or five times a

843
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 1: year where mahomes just his freestyling and find someone down

844
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 1: the field that that feels like MVS is spot the

845
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:51,399
Speaker 1: ship for sure, absolutely, But that's four or five times

846
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 1: a year. He was that guy with the Packers already,

847
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 1: like he would have you know, he'd go for one

848
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:57,440
Speaker 1: forty and two touchdowns three times a year and then

849
00:43:57,480 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 1: he'd have four weeks or he'd have seventeen yards and

850
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 1: he'd be just where didan fiasco? I think that's maybe

851
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 1: he's a better version of that this year. Well, Ronald

852
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:08,280
Speaker 1: Jones would be another like disappointment elsewhere that that possibly

853
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 1: steps up because I just don't believe in Edwards Hilaire,

854
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 1: um Nick Bolton, I guess would be an option. Um,

855
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 1: you know the man who didn't quite come down with that,

856
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow weird sideline passed that it could have intercepted.

857
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:26,320
Speaker 1: That would have maybe one put put the Chiefs in

858
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:28,400
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. Legarius Sneek just doesn't get a lot

859
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 1: of attention, so I could I could mention him. What

860
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:33,799
Speaker 1: about what about one thorn Hill? I mean a guy

861
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:35,960
Speaker 1: who was very good as a rookie since then, I mean,

862
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 1: Okay has been in an outible lineup a bit, but

863
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:39,919
Speaker 1: it was in more last year than out And I think,

864
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:42,719
Speaker 1: you know a player where I think I'm wondering, is

865
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 1: he just, you know, is he better than Daniel Sorenson?

866
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:46,920
Speaker 1: Is that why he's in the lineup? Or is he

867
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:50,399
Speaker 1: actually legit, you know, above average starting safety. I think

868
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:52,840
Speaker 1: I want to see see him play seventeen games and

869
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 1: play consistently well this year. So I could just feel

870
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 1: Dan getting nervous because the pacing of this is in trouble.

871
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 1: You ou it's like you gotta get Bill out of here. No,

872
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:04,880
Speaker 1: it's it's not. It's me because I'm trying to like

873
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:07,440
Speaker 1: crank through off. I think you're projecting upon me. I

874
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 1: do know we have to take a break. So let's

875
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 1: take a break, Greg, and then we're gonna hit the NFC.

876
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 1: See that's just that's tugboat, just keeping things under control.

877
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 1: It's like the captain on the Titanic. I'm not gonna

878
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:22,359
Speaker 1: be on the lifeboat. I will be behind the big

879
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:25,920
Speaker 1: wheel when the water comes rushing in. See Dan's in Jersey,

880
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 1: and I just think I can do whatever I want.

881
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 1: Let's second break. We'll be right back. All right, let's

882
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:36,239
Speaker 1: get to it. The NFC East with Bill Barnwell. Let

883
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 1: me do A friend says, all right, if you're just

884
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 1: joining us, Bill Barnwell does really great stuff over at

885
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:45,760
Speaker 1: the ESPN. He's joining us with talking making the leap Greg.

886
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:49,759
Speaker 1: How about the NFC East. Yeah, Washington was one of

887
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:53,200
Speaker 1: the teams. I couldn't come up with anyone. I was like, Oh,

888
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:55,839
Speaker 1: I don't know, just do like Antonio Gibson bounce back

889
00:45:56,239 --> 00:46:00,279
Speaker 1: Cowboys probably ceedee lamb over uh oh diggiz other really

890
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 1: like what Dickie do? I just I wanted to talk

891
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:06,359
Speaker 1: Giants because Bill is our our resident Giants fan that

892
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:10,480
Speaker 1: tries to hide that he's a Giants fan. Somewhe um

893
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 1: it was going through some stuff right now the listeners,

894
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 1: you know, his his hands are buried in his face

895
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:19,480
Speaker 1: or look I think I feel better about the future

896
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:22,360
Speaker 1: of the Giants right now than I haven't about a decade. It.

897
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:26,359
Speaker 1: It might not be great this year, um, but this

898
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 1: is one where I don't need your help. I'm definitely

899
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 1: going tod Areus Tony because I am a huge Cadarius

900
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:34,880
Speaker 1: Tony believer, and I was just curious if Bill is

901
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:39,440
Speaker 1: with me on this at all. I'm not. I I

902
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:42,479
Speaker 1: think he's okay, I think he's interesting, but like we're

903
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:48,879
Speaker 1: we're basing our kid Darius Tony optimism on one game. Yeah,

904
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 1: but that's it. It was like two games. It's really

905
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:54,720
Speaker 1: two games. He did some things against the six catchers

906
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 1: for two d and sixty seven yards in that two

907
00:46:56,600 --> 00:47:00,880
Speaker 1: game stretch. Otherwise, yeah, and that was it. And how

908
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 1: about those eyes? How about how he moves? You gotta admit,

909
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 1: you got to admit he has a freak in terms

910
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:08,920
Speaker 1: of how he moves, like a Tyreek Hill type of thing.

911
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 1: When you are staring at at the life nature of

912
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 1: NFL players moving, I'm out. I'm pounding the copy. My

913
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:20,840
Speaker 1: head is down. This is yes. You know, I know

914
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:24,880
Speaker 1: you're a numbers guy, and we want, you know, factually,

915
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 1: don't put him out. You still you still gotta look

916
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:31,960
Speaker 1: at a guy like Canary So as a rookie stepping

917
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:36,240
Speaker 1: out there and having a game and making NFL defensive

918
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:40,400
Speaker 1: players look silly in a way that few players do,

919
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 1: and doing that right off the bat and thinking, Okay,

920
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:45,880
Speaker 1: there's something here in the right system that they could harness.

921
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 1: And it feels like Brian Dable would be that right system.

922
00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:51,719
Speaker 1: He just has to stay healthy and kind of have

923
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:55,879
Speaker 1: his head on straight. That's fair. I think that's absolutely fair.

924
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:58,400
Speaker 1: But what I would say is Number one, he you know,

925
00:47:58,440 --> 00:47:59,800
Speaker 1: we think it hurt later on in the year, but

926
00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:02,480
Speaker 1: he it's not that guy consistently after that two week stretch.

927
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:04,719
Speaker 1: And number two, they did do second round picked on

928
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:07,080
Speaker 1: one deal Robinson, who is kind of the same sort

929
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:08,799
Speaker 1: of player, maybe not as good, maybe more of a

930
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 1: project than Kadarius Tony. But that doesn't tell me that

931
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:15,319
Speaker 1: the new regime is necessarily in love with And there

932
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:20,319
Speaker 1: was rumors swirling around him after year one, which is

933
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:22,400
Speaker 1: very unusual. I know there's a regime change and that

934
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 1: stuff could happen, but I got some sobering data here.

935
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 1: Greg and Bill just touched on it. But he played

936
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:30,880
Speaker 1: ten games last year. He missed time, extended time to injuries.

937
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:33,760
Speaker 1: He had those those two big games twenty three catches

938
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:36,759
Speaker 1: for a hundred and fifty yards outside that two game explosion,

939
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:40,200
Speaker 1: so he uh, you know, and he missed most of

940
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 1: the spring coming back from knee surgery. So there are

941
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:44,800
Speaker 1: there are some obstacles here. Well, Daniel Jones would Daniel

942
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 1: Jones would be another option here. You know, one of

943
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 1: the reasons Tony didn't produce. Okari would be an option,

944
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:54,759
Speaker 1: but Dania Jones would be an option because one of

945
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:57,040
Speaker 1: the reasons Tony didn't produce is because they had those

946
00:48:57,120 --> 00:49:01,360
Speaker 1: terrible quarterbacks and basically the offensive line when from bad too,

947
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:05,360
Speaker 1: like unplayable in the last eight or nine you know,

948
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:09,279
Speaker 1: weeks of the season. I've made mistakes before, and maybe

949
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:11,239
Speaker 1: I'm making it with Davis Mills, where you like get

950
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:13,480
Speaker 1: too excited about the last five or six games of

951
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:15,040
Speaker 1: a rookie year and then you hold on to that

952
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:17,960
Speaker 1: like do you Dan, do you still think Daniel Jones?

953
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:21,640
Speaker 1: Don't you think in this Brian Dable type of thing,

954
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:23,839
Speaker 1: like at least has a chance. I don't know who

955
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:26,239
Speaker 1: else does on this roster anyway, I think given the

956
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:30,440
Speaker 1: way things unfolded this year, especially with the this particular

957
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:33,320
Speaker 1: quarterback class and everything that was going on with the Giants.

958
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:36,640
Speaker 1: I think they made the right call to just hold

959
00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:40,560
Speaker 1: here and give him one more shot. That said, uh,

960
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:42,440
Speaker 1: and you used to talk about this with Donald and

961
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 1: other guys, Greg, like, once you get to this point,

962
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:48,880
Speaker 1: you have to assume the worst. So while he's still

963
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:52,160
Speaker 1: tools e, while you wonder what better leadership and a

964
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:54,560
Speaker 1: better game plan will he be able to become that

965
00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:57,160
Speaker 1: guy they thought he was gonna be. You just gotta

966
00:49:57,200 --> 00:49:59,480
Speaker 1: look at like history and and and think it's not

967
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 1: gonna be the year for him. But you know, m

968
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:07,600
Speaker 1: I mean, I think that's the good way to put it.

969
00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:09,640
Speaker 1: You know, I think the odds are against him. And yes,

970
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:12,320
Speaker 1: you are changing some of your personnel, You're changing the

971
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:15,000
Speaker 1: coaching staff. I think Brian Dable is much more competent

972
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:17,920
Speaker 1: than the offensive staff they had in their previously. But

973
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:21,360
Speaker 1: look what happened with Sam right Sandwich a Carolina. He

974
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:23,840
Speaker 1: had three good games. Are our old friend Evans. But

975
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:25,920
Speaker 1: Dania Jones has like don't you're a Giants fan, do

976
00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:28,920
Speaker 1: you think Daniel Jones has shown that he's kind of

977
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:32,600
Speaker 1: a replacement level starting quarterback, Like I'm pretty confident. And

978
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:35,600
Speaker 1: I can't say this about Donald that Daniel Jones is

979
00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:38,200
Speaker 1: going to have like a twelve to fourteen year career

980
00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 1: bouncing around the league and he'll be like a part

981
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 1: time starter. Maybe is like his median outcome, kind of

982
00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:48,680
Speaker 1: like a Teddy Bridgewater ish career. Oh boy, I did

983
00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:51,600
Speaker 1: not think Daniel Jones is on Bridgewater's level. You've already

984
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:55,640
Speaker 1: slandered Teddy twice. I just think he's shown that he

985
00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:58,920
Speaker 1: can play, that he can play in the league. I

986
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:01,320
Speaker 1: I think Mike and arn is how has he developed?

987
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:02,839
Speaker 1: I mean, to me, I think he's still the same

988
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 1: guy who is very slow in the pocket. He's he's patient,

989
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 1: which I think is a good thing, but also patient

990
00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:09,840
Speaker 1: to a fault. He's getting hit too often. He doesn't

991
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:12,839
Speaker 1: protect the football very well, like the stridc he has made,

992
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:14,719
Speaker 1: or not significant enough to me to think that he's

993
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:16,520
Speaker 1: going to make a sudden leap. And I think with

994
00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:18,480
Speaker 1: a backup quarterback you want someone like Teddy. He was

995
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:20,719
Speaker 1: going to protect the football, makes heart decisions. Maybe he

996
00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:23,319
Speaker 1: doesn't have the ceiling other guys have, But Daniel Jones

997
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:25,319
Speaker 1: to me, is just not that guy. I think to me,

998
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:27,880
Speaker 1: if I was gonna pick someone. I pick Andrew topas

999
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:31,280
Speaker 1: where he improved last year he was bad as a rookie,

1000
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:34,319
Speaker 1: he was much better last year. He looked competent last year.

1001
00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 1: He was not the problem with that lining year ago,

1002
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:39,839
Speaker 1: but still well behind Wills and works for the best

1003
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:41,920
Speaker 1: tackle in that class, and he was taken as the

1004
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:43,560
Speaker 1: first tackle on that class, ahead of those guys. So

1005
00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:45,640
Speaker 1: to me, I think it's is he gonna be a

1006
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:48,160
Speaker 1: okay tackle or is he going to be the guy

1007
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:50,880
Speaker 1: the Giants expected and to be a superstar left tackle

1008
00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:53,360
Speaker 1: and a building block for them for the next decade,

1009
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:55,719
Speaker 1: whether it's Daniel Jones or someone else at quarterback he's

1010
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:58,920
Speaker 1: protecting in years to come. Um, I'll throw one more

1011
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:02,480
Speaker 1: out from the NFC A little bit basic because I

1012
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:04,399
Speaker 1: thought he'd be in the superstar club this year. Didn't

1013
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:06,839
Speaker 1: quite happen. But Ceedee Lamb making that leap this year

1014
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 1: I think is gonna happen. I think the way it's

1015
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:12,160
Speaker 1: setting up for the Cowboys back another year clear of

1016
00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:16,520
Speaker 1: the surgery, Mark Cooper out the door. Um, you're gonna

1017
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:19,520
Speaker 1: see Ceedee Lamb put up all pro monster stats. In

1018
00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:21,400
Speaker 1: my opinion, you can make a case for Tony Pollard

1019
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:23,360
Speaker 1: to that those are two good options. I think. I

1020
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:26,360
Speaker 1: think he finally kind of takes over and becomes that

1021
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:28,240
Speaker 1: lead guy from Zeke, and he's going to be involved

1022
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:30,120
Speaker 1: in their passing game as well. I think the Cowboys

1023
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:35,280
Speaker 1: have two good candidates there. Yeah, I'm one Washington candidate. Please.

1024
00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:38,680
Speaker 1: I he was. I was struggling with them. I will

1025
00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:42,240
Speaker 1: give you Cam Curl the safety where he was mostly

1026
00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:44,759
Speaker 1: a strong safety last year. I think he, you know,

1027
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:46,480
Speaker 1: makes it up a bit more in o Bryce McCane is.

1028
00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:48,480
Speaker 1: They're back on a one year deal. They have high

1029
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:50,040
Speaker 1: hopes for him. I don't know if he's going to be,

1030
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:53,960
Speaker 1: you know, a superstar, but I think, you know, he

1031
00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:56,080
Speaker 1: he has potential. I think there's a lot to like there.

1032
00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:57,560
Speaker 1: I think they were very impressed with him in a

1033
00:52:57,600 --> 00:52:59,560
Speaker 1: small sample. I think he gets a bigger role this year.

1034
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:01,960
Speaker 1: I think he has the at let us listen to impress.

1035
00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:04,920
Speaker 1: Did the next couple of divisions I'll crank through. But

1036
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:07,439
Speaker 1: I thought the most one of the two or three

1037
00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:10,240
Speaker 1: most interesting teams in the whole league was the Eagles

1038
00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:14,440
Speaker 1: because they have big name value here for potential making leap, Dan,

1039
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:18,560
Speaker 1: where are you going to Vanta Smith, Jalen Hurts, we

1040
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 1: could you could even go Jordan my Latta. As much

1041
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:23,959
Speaker 1: as I've talked him up, he still has another leap

1042
00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:26,040
Speaker 1: to go where he would be like a first team

1043
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:28,040
Speaker 1: All Pro type of type of guy. I mean, he's

1044
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:30,040
Speaker 1: not been a Pro Bowl or anything. And then I

1045
00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:32,279
Speaker 1: know they're very high in Milton Williams, who was a

1046
00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:35,120
Speaker 1: defensive tackle they took and will be part of a rotation,

1047
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:36,640
Speaker 1: so it might be hard for him to step up.

1048
00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:39,640
Speaker 1: I had a nice rookie year. Um so more than

1049
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:42,960
Speaker 1: most teams. They've got some good, good name value there.

1050
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:45,239
Speaker 1: You're gonna want a few quarterbacks on your list when

1051
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:47,719
Speaker 1: the copy comes out, when it's pounded out. Uh So,

1052
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:50,880
Speaker 1: I think Jalen Hurts is the safe pick here in

1053
00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 1: the right pick. Um, that's my choice for all the

1054
00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:56,720
Speaker 1: reasons we've talked about. This summer, another year in the system,

1055
00:53:56,800 --> 00:54:00,719
Speaker 1: unquestioned starter, got a new number one receiver. Uh you know,

1056
00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:03,160
Speaker 1: if he's healthy, I think he's gonna ball out and

1057
00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:08,360
Speaker 1: take the leap and be you know, a top It

1058
00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:10,600
Speaker 1: could be a top ten starter if things go really well,

1059
00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:13,640
Speaker 1: but like safely on the right side of the Dalton scale.

1060
00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:18,360
Speaker 1: Could could feel you trying to calibrate that number correct

1061
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:24,319
Speaker 1: brand just just the scale slightly twelve eight s. I

1062
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:26,759
Speaker 1: think I think that's a good number. Um, let's go

1063
00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:28,400
Speaker 1: to the NFC North. I mean, I think there's a

1064
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:29,879
Speaker 1: lot of a lot to get here too as well.

1065
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:33,279
Speaker 1: And um, you know, I I'm in treat Greg. Who

1066
00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:36,480
Speaker 1: do you think is possibly capable of making the leap

1067
00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:41,279
Speaker 1: on this Bears roster? Well, Darnell Mooney is going to

1068
00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:45,880
Speaker 1: have such opportunity two lane grad So I've talked Hi

1069
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:49,279
Speaker 1: about plenty on this podcast, but he really is a

1070
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:51,399
Speaker 1: true deep threat, which not many players in the league

1071
00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:54,360
Speaker 1: are in and it's to me matches up perfectly with

1072
00:54:54,440 --> 00:55:00,240
Speaker 1: Justin Fields. Is skill set and there's so little, uh

1073
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:03,879
Speaker 1: receiving options behind him. You know, they certainly at tight

1074
00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:06,400
Speaker 1: end they're okay, but their number two receiver might be

1075
00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:09,640
Speaker 1: Byron Pringle and so Mooney even though he might not

1076
00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:12,160
Speaker 1: need to be that much better, just the fact that

1077
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:15,120
Speaker 1: they'll throw the ball enough like he could easily have yards.

1078
00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:18,399
Speaker 1: Justin Fields would also be an option. Jalen Johnson took

1079
00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:20,800
Speaker 1: a step back last year, maybe, so maybe if you

1080
00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:22,920
Speaker 1: like him to bounce back. But Mooney, this is what

1081
00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:24,319
Speaker 1: the problem is. I don't want to go. You don't

1082
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:26,640
Speaker 1: want to go too many receivers, But Mooney feels like

1083
00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:30,919
Speaker 1: the guy I will say. I mean, I guess I'm

1084
00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:34,000
Speaker 1: doing the skill position rankings for ESPN. The Bears are

1085
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:36,880
Speaker 1: very low there they are. If I was doing offensive

1086
00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:39,160
Speaker 1: line rankings, I think they'd be dead last. I mean,

1087
00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:43,160
Speaker 1: Justin Fields has absolutely no help. And I think that's

1088
00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:46,040
Speaker 1: the scary thing is it's not just about him playing poorly.

1089
00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:47,399
Speaker 1: I think it's hard for me to see him even

1090
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:50,600
Speaker 1: staying healthy through the entire season. That's how desperate I

1091
00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:54,040
Speaker 1: think his situation is. So I think, I guess you

1092
00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:57,280
Speaker 1: go Mooney just by default. But it's just a brutal situation.

1093
00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:00,640
Speaker 1: I feel like that this is making me realize though,

1094
00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:03,719
Speaker 1: Like if you want to and I'm not telling you

1095
00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:05,560
Speaker 1: what to do him here, Bill, but you want there's

1096
00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:07,480
Speaker 1: a lot of people here at ESPN. You want to

1097
00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:09,400
Speaker 1: you want your takes to stand out. I feel like

1098
00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:12,799
Speaker 1: no one's on the like Justin Fields is gonna have

1099
00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:16,279
Speaker 1: a monster second year and be the best second year

1100
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:19,359
Speaker 1: quarterback guy left. Like everyone's sort of off that. So

1101
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:22,680
Speaker 1: if only to be unique, someone should be taking that corner.

1102
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:29,560
Speaker 1: It happens, you could go, Dan, you could go, maybe

1103
00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:31,600
Speaker 1: you could take that someone needs to be the big

1104
00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:33,640
Speaker 1: fields guy, because it could it could happen if he's

1105
00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:35,520
Speaker 1: really as good as we thought he was coming into

1106
00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:40,239
Speaker 1: the league. Like people, I volunteered to help break on

1107
00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:45,319
Speaker 1: one column and now he's he's getting the second. I'm

1108
00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:47,439
Speaker 1: not gonna do. That's what you can do that one, Bill. Yeah,

1109
00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:50,480
Speaker 1: just quickly on the North, I'll just say Panay Sewell

1110
00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:55,720
Speaker 1: probably the leading guy in in the Lions, maybe DeAndre Swift,

1111
00:56:56,120 --> 00:56:59,520
Speaker 1: Alan Lazard maybe stepping up if we wanted to give

1112
00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:02,080
Speaker 1: a shot Gary more Love, He's already kind of taken

1113
00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:04,919
Speaker 1: the leap. Irv Smith, maybe k j Osborne cam bind

1114
00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:07,400
Speaker 1: him in Minnesota. Hey, this one one thing, since you

1115
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:10,880
Speaker 1: brought up the Green Bay pass catchers, do they need

1116
00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:15,920
Speaker 1: either Lizard or Christian Watson to immediately emerge to be

1117
00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:19,000
Speaker 1: a big time team this year? Are they? I know,

1118
00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:21,400
Speaker 1: you know the Davante Adam situation. I feel like they're

1119
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:23,960
Speaker 1: very vulnerable unless one of those guys becomes a guy

1120
00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:28,240
Speaker 1: like a dog got the dog in him. Yeah, I

1121
00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:30,600
Speaker 1: mean I think that's fair, you know, And I don't

1122
00:57:30,600 --> 00:57:32,280
Speaker 1: think Lazart has a track record to make you think

1123
00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:35,200
Speaker 1: he's going to be that guy. So I think, you know,

1124
00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:38,240
Speaker 1: maybe it's Robert Tannian coming back from injury. Maybe maybe

1125
00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:40,120
Speaker 1: they just go to a more arun heavy approach, Like

1126
00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:42,960
Speaker 1: I think. I I think you can't just run back

1127
00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:45,360
Speaker 1: that exact same offense, the exact same pass rate, the

1128
00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:47,720
Speaker 1: exact same rounds and just plugging Alan Lazard. I think, Okay,

1129
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:50,600
Speaker 1: he's gonna be Davante Adams and and that's that's just

1130
00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:55,200
Speaker 1: not gonna happen. I think I think someone has to

1131
00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:56,880
Speaker 1: make a major leap. They don't have to be Dvante Adams,

1132
00:57:56,920 --> 00:57:59,320
Speaker 1: but I think someone has to be the guy. Where

1133
00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:01,760
Speaker 1: we mentioned Nate High State Tyson, he says, who's gonna

1134
00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:03,120
Speaker 1: be that guy who gets you a bucket when you

1135
00:58:03,120 --> 00:58:05,120
Speaker 1: need to bucket? Like Dwante Adams was that guy for

1136
00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:07,200
Speaker 1: the Packers, and now they don't have that guy. There's

1137
00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:09,040
Speaker 1: not that, you know, the guy who's gonna bail you

1138
00:58:09,080 --> 00:58:11,720
Speaker 1: out on third down. So to me, I think someone

1139
00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:14,080
Speaker 1: has to be that player for them. I think they've

1140
00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:17,840
Speaker 1: shown in the Patriots certainly over the years have shown

1141
00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:20,760
Speaker 1: that though, like if you're gonna try to save money

1142
00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:23,160
Speaker 1: or you're a little short at a position. Wide receiver

1143
00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:25,560
Speaker 1: is not a bad one to be short on, because

1144
00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:27,880
Speaker 1: when you have a quarterback like Aaron Rodgers, he can

1145
00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:29,920
Speaker 1: make them better. And the reason I put Lazard first

1146
00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:32,760
Speaker 1: just like he's tried to call Lazard his number one

1147
00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:34,920
Speaker 1: receiver in the off season, so you know that he

1148
00:58:35,080 --> 00:58:37,560
Speaker 1: likes he likes Lazard. He's trying to puff him up

1149
00:58:37,600 --> 00:58:40,320
Speaker 1: a little bit. He's gonna give him opportunities, and that's

1150
00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:43,520
Speaker 1: that's part of the reason you pay Rogers fifty million dollars. Well,

1151
00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:45,800
Speaker 1: we'll fly through the South, the NFC South. I think

1152
00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:49,160
Speaker 1: Kyle Pitts, you almost have to do him with the Falcons. Uh,

1153
00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:52,520
Speaker 1: gross Matos. I've always liked with the Panthers last two years.

1154
00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:55,960
Speaker 1: Jeremy Chin maybe bouncing back. Pete Werner was really good

1155
00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:58,120
Speaker 1: for the Saints as a rookie. I think he's gonna

1156
00:58:58,120 --> 00:59:00,920
Speaker 1: be my pick. Maybe Paulson Adibo. The Bucks didn't have

1157
00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:03,320
Speaker 1: many options because there's such a veteran team. I could

1158
00:59:03,400 --> 00:59:06,240
Speaker 1: get cute and throw Tom Brady and just to be

1159
00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:12,200
Speaker 1: like he's just gonna step up big and ages let's

1160
00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:14,120
Speaker 1: go to the NFC. Can I just I'll throw one

1161
00:59:14,200 --> 00:59:16,960
Speaker 1: for Carolina. J. C. Horne was kicking ass before he

1162
00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:20,320
Speaker 1: broke his foot. But does he qualify because he only

1163
00:59:20,320 --> 00:59:23,720
Speaker 1: played three games as a rookie, so and I think

1164
00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:27,040
Speaker 1: he does. Okay, well, I think you should thank you. Okay,

1165
00:59:27,240 --> 00:59:28,680
Speaker 1: can I can I throw a Tampa one in there

1166
00:59:28,680 --> 00:59:34,120
Speaker 1: really quick? Okay? Let me throw on Rusk Gage. Okay. Like, like,

1167
00:59:34,160 --> 00:59:36,600
Speaker 1: Russell gag is coming over from Atlanta, you know, the

1168
00:59:36,640 --> 00:59:39,640
Speaker 1: expectations are pretty high. Tom Brady personally recruited him to

1169
00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:42,760
Speaker 1: come to Tampa. He probably starts in two wide receivers

1170
00:59:42,760 --> 00:59:45,280
Speaker 1: sets to start the season. Like, like, you know, I

1171
00:59:45,320 --> 00:59:48,000
Speaker 1: don't think Russell Cage is going to be a pro bowler,

1172
00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:50,680
Speaker 1: but that's not out of their own possibility that he's

1173
00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:52,919
Speaker 1: a thousand yard receiver in this offense. And that would

1174
00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:54,920
Speaker 1: be a you know, I think a pretty buickly from

1175
00:59:54,920 --> 00:59:57,000
Speaker 1: the guy who was you know, decent numbers in Atlanta

1176
00:59:57,040 --> 00:59:59,120
Speaker 1: but was never seen as like a real difference maker

1177
00:59:59,320 --> 01:00:02,280
Speaker 1: from week to week. No, he was a monster in

1178
01:00:02,320 --> 01:00:05,439
Speaker 1: the last half of last season, and I was just like, what,

1179
01:00:05,640 --> 01:00:07,959
Speaker 1: Russell Gate, Uh, that's a good that's a good pick.

1180
01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:11,919
Speaker 1: Tryon Shanka has such a good opportunity. Um, but it's

1181
01:00:11,960 --> 01:00:14,880
Speaker 1: been pretty erradicate as a pro. The Cardinals, I might

1182
01:00:14,920 --> 01:00:19,479
Speaker 1: go Marquis Brown, Yeah, I do like hyphenated players. Uh,

1183
01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:22,760
Speaker 1: Marky's Brown maybe changing his role up a little bit

1184
01:00:22,800 --> 01:00:27,400
Speaker 1: in that system. Marco Wilson their cornerback. Uh forts he

1185
01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:30,000
Speaker 1: go at, you can go Lance, you Golijah, Mit, you

1186
01:00:30,040 --> 01:00:33,360
Speaker 1: go Comico Torre who kind of like coming in there? Uh,

1187
01:00:33,600 --> 01:00:36,400
Speaker 1: Seattle though, there's a lot of options, So I want

1188
01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:39,560
Speaker 1: your help, Dan. I could throw Gino in there. I'm

1189
01:00:39,600 --> 01:00:42,040
Speaker 1: you know, I'm running out of time to get Gino

1190
01:00:42,160 --> 01:00:45,800
Speaker 1: into my copy. Uh, that would be fun. Jordan's Brooks

1191
01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:48,640
Speaker 1: is a guy that, like people that watch the tape

1192
01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:52,000
Speaker 1: love Jordan Brooks. He never fares very well on PFF

1193
01:00:52,600 --> 01:00:54,680
Speaker 1: because I think he gives up big plays and his

1194
01:00:54,760 --> 01:00:58,320
Speaker 1: coverage is spotty. Uh. No a fan coming over there.

1195
01:00:58,640 --> 01:01:00,400
Speaker 1: We always kind of were waiting for no fan to

1196
01:01:00,400 --> 01:01:03,160
Speaker 1: break out. Darryl Taylor is a good pass rusher that

1197
01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:06,320
Speaker 1: the Seahawks have options. Dan, would would you get cute

1198
01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:08,400
Speaker 1: and go Gino or would you do someboding? I certainly

1199
01:01:08,440 --> 01:01:10,320
Speaker 1: wouldn't go, but I could see you doing that because

1200
01:01:10,360 --> 01:01:13,440
Speaker 1: there's not a big standout guy. I don't know, Like,

1201
01:01:14,800 --> 01:01:18,439
Speaker 1: if if Russell Wilson was throwing the passes, Fan would

1202
01:01:18,440 --> 01:01:20,800
Speaker 1: be interesting to me, but that's not the reality we

1203
01:01:20,800 --> 01:01:22,600
Speaker 1: live in anymore. I don't really have a hot take

1204
01:01:22,640 --> 01:01:25,200
Speaker 1: on this one. I'm not going to force mm hmm.

1205
01:01:25,760 --> 01:01:27,880
Speaker 1: That's smart. I mean, you know, I think it's really

1206
01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:31,120
Speaker 1: a question of what does the offense look like, because

1207
01:01:31,120 --> 01:01:33,840
Speaker 1: I think if that offense looks like it's a you know,

1208
01:01:33,880 --> 01:01:36,520
Speaker 1: if it looks like it's just a run heavy mess

1209
01:01:36,600 --> 01:01:39,040
Speaker 1: and they're just taking some play action shots, then I'm

1210
01:01:39,040 --> 01:01:41,360
Speaker 1: not excited about Fan. But if they're moving the ball,

1211
01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:43,919
Speaker 1: if they get a fan of bunch of red zone opportunities,

1212
01:01:44,200 --> 01:01:46,160
Speaker 1: I think he could be like a nine ten touchdown guy,

1213
01:01:46,160 --> 01:01:47,960
Speaker 1: and that that would be a step forward for me.

1214
01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:49,440
Speaker 1: I don't think he's gonna have a thousand yards. I

1215
01:01:49,480 --> 01:01:51,960
Speaker 1: don't think they're going to have the volume after lock

1216
01:01:52,040 --> 01:01:55,080
Speaker 1: It and Metcalf get theirs. But I think no, if

1217
01:01:55,120 --> 01:01:56,760
Speaker 1: it could be more of a red zone threat, I

1218
01:01:56,760 --> 01:01:58,720
Speaker 1: think that would be exciting. I hope could be their

1219
01:01:58,760 --> 01:02:01,640
Speaker 1: number three receiver thinking in which you know, not not

1220
01:02:01,680 --> 01:02:04,080
Speaker 1: all tight ends are your number three kind of receiver.

1221
01:02:04,160 --> 01:02:07,080
Speaker 1: They don't really have a third wide out get like

1222
01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:10,480
Speaker 1: seven yards and eight touchdowns, and then finally the Rams

1223
01:02:10,520 --> 01:02:13,960
Speaker 1: probably leaning Ernest Jones. You could go note Boom coming in.

1224
01:02:14,160 --> 01:02:17,440
Speaker 1: You could go Cam akersh you could go do you

1225
01:02:17,880 --> 01:02:21,720
Speaker 1: you mentioned you mentioned we had to pick our our luck.

1226
01:02:21,800 --> 01:02:23,880
Speaker 1: I guess and no, it was just just cheating on

1227
01:02:23,880 --> 01:02:27,640
Speaker 1: the block system. But I think I'll go Ernest Jones.

1228
01:02:27,720 --> 01:02:31,360
Speaker 1: Jones was was one of the best players on the

1229
01:02:31,360 --> 01:02:33,560
Speaker 1: field in the Super Bowl. I mean, I mean, and

1230
01:02:33,760 --> 01:02:35,560
Speaker 1: there are a lot of famous players on the field

1231
01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:38,600
Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl, he was phenomenal in that game.

1232
01:02:38,640 --> 01:02:41,360
Speaker 1: I mean, I think for them, you know, I don't

1233
01:02:41,400 --> 01:02:43,120
Speaker 1: want to say he's gonna be this guy because this

1234
01:02:43,200 --> 01:02:45,919
Speaker 1: is probably the best possible outcome for his skill set

1235
01:02:45,960 --> 01:02:48,240
Speaker 1: or for his his draft status and where he played

1236
01:02:48,320 --> 01:02:50,960
Speaker 1: last year. But I think he's the guy who has

1237
01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:53,160
Speaker 1: to be the Fred Warner for the Rams. And I

1238
01:02:53,200 --> 01:02:55,440
Speaker 1: think in terms of his ability to work with in

1239
01:02:55,520 --> 01:02:57,520
Speaker 1: the context of coverage, in terms of his ability to

1240
01:02:58,000 --> 01:03:00,280
Speaker 1: you know, to cover different parts of the field. He

1241
01:03:00,320 --> 01:03:03,280
Speaker 1: looked like that guy in the postseason, especially in the

1242
01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:04,840
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. So to me, I think he's still work

1243
01:03:04,840 --> 01:03:07,440
Speaker 1: in progress, but he has that kind of upside and

1244
01:03:07,520 --> 01:03:10,480
Speaker 1: I think he's going to be a significantly uh, he's

1245
01:03:10,520 --> 01:03:12,880
Speaker 1: gonna be a really important player for that team this year.

1246
01:03:12,920 --> 01:03:15,880
Speaker 1: I think, Greg, when you have this article that goes

1247
01:03:15,960 --> 01:03:18,560
Speaker 1: up live next week on NFL dot com, in the

1248
01:03:18,600 --> 01:03:21,680
Speaker 1: opening graph or two before you dig in how much

1249
01:03:21,720 --> 01:03:26,680
Speaker 1: pop do Barnwell and I get? Yeah, now now you're

1250
01:03:26,720 --> 01:03:30,920
Speaker 1: getting it. Um. If you hadn't just said that, I

1251
01:03:30,920 --> 01:03:33,480
Speaker 1: don't know if it would have happened. Maybe you would.

1252
01:03:33,520 --> 01:03:35,680
Speaker 1: I would have at least waited till I got to

1253
01:03:35,760 --> 01:03:39,720
Speaker 1: someone that you guys like specifically pitched for. But now

1254
01:03:39,720 --> 01:03:41,840
Speaker 1: that he did, I think that's good and that you know,

1255
01:03:41,880 --> 01:03:45,480
Speaker 1: that just increases the chances of you guys mentioning it

1256
01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:48,480
Speaker 1: ever again. So that can only help spread the word

1257
01:03:49,360 --> 01:03:52,480
Speaker 1: about making the leaf. You know me? Well? Greg, all right, Bill,

1258
01:03:52,600 --> 01:03:55,760
Speaker 1: you've said it all. One day, you and I are

1259
01:03:55,760 --> 01:03:58,960
Speaker 1: gonna be uh in Boston at the same time, and

1260
01:03:59,760 --> 01:04:03,360
Speaker 1: we'll get a sandwich of chicken loose together. Northeastern graduate.

1261
01:04:04,320 --> 01:04:07,479
Speaker 1: I have some bad news, Dan, don't say it, don't

1262
01:04:08,840 --> 01:04:12,400
Speaker 1: I have some bad news. We lost chicken loo during

1263
01:04:12,400 --> 01:04:17,720
Speaker 1: the So sad you can you can buy I believe

1264
01:04:17,840 --> 01:04:20,080
Speaker 1: t k O sauce or some kind of chicken loose

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Speaker 1: sauce on their website now but badly the you know,

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Speaker 1: it was the bread. It was that soft bread with

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Speaker 1: the chicken and the buffalo. Alright, sad day for all Huskies.

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01:04:33,120 --> 01:04:36,080
Speaker 1: Literally we did the restaurant closed or did this Luke

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01:04:36,240 --> 01:04:41,400
Speaker 1: character clothes on lou himself? I don't know. It was

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01:04:41,400 --> 01:04:44,600
Speaker 1: a little shack right off. It was like a food

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01:04:44,720 --> 01:04:48,360
Speaker 1: hunting kind of thing. Yeah, yes, um, we'll go to

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Speaker 1: be hop instead, We're going to be alright, good stuff, Bill,

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01:04:52,440 --> 01:04:55,040
Speaker 1: Thank you so much again. Check out Bill's writing any

1274
01:04:55,800 --> 01:04:58,240
Speaker 1: ESPN dot com and the Bill Barnwell Show, and he's

1275
01:04:58,240 --> 01:05:01,640
Speaker 1: always on with Mina so you can check Bill. Everybody's

1276
01:05:01,680 --> 01:05:04,680
Speaker 1: on ESPN the television station a lot. I mean, this

1277
01:05:04,760 --> 01:05:07,320
Speaker 1: is a lot of Van Pelt action. You and Van Pelt.

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01:05:08,120 --> 01:05:11,960
Speaker 1: Nice yeah, nice rapport Van Pelt to to two Baltman

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01:05:12,240 --> 01:05:15,240
Speaker 1: just doing TV. It's a real triumph I think for us,

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01:05:15,240 --> 01:05:17,360
Speaker 1: not it's not a lot of bald representation on TV.

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01:05:17,680 --> 01:05:20,720
Speaker 1: Happy to finally get two Baltman on the television at

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01:05:20,720 --> 01:05:25,080
Speaker 1: the same time together. Big All right, good stuff, Thank you, Bill,

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01:05:25,080 --> 01:05:30,040
Speaker 1: appreciate Thanks guys. All right, we say goodbye to Bill Barnwell.

1284
01:05:30,080 --> 01:05:32,440
Speaker 1: But we got some We got another guest because we

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01:05:32,520 --> 01:05:35,480
Speaker 1: have developing news and this is not the good type

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01:05:35,480 --> 01:05:45,120
Speaker 1: of development news. In fact, disgusted because the city council

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01:05:45,920 --> 01:05:52,240
Speaker 1: over in Tybee Island, our beloved Tybee, Chris Westling's former hometown,

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01:05:53,840 --> 01:05:57,360
Speaker 1: has come up with some weapons grade bullshit that is

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01:05:57,400 --> 01:06:01,040
Speaker 1: targeting the great huck a Poos, the Inness establishment in

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01:06:01,080 --> 01:06:05,120
Speaker 1: Tybee Island, the hangout of all hangouts, and that wonderful place,

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01:06:05,240 --> 01:06:07,880
Speaker 1: the place that west loves so much. He made a

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01:06:08,520 --> 01:06:12,160
Speaker 1: point to make sure we always we're there. When we visited.

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01:06:12,240 --> 01:06:16,360
Speaker 1: It was a major uh meeting point and hangout point

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01:06:16,640 --> 01:06:19,960
Speaker 1: during Chris and Lakisha's wedding weekend. And now we got

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01:06:20,000 --> 01:06:26,000
Speaker 1: some again weapons great, and I want to talk about it.

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01:06:26,040 --> 01:06:28,480
Speaker 1: I want to get it from the horse's mouth, the man,

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01:06:28,840 --> 01:06:32,600
Speaker 1: the myth, the legend. Now joining us the owner of Huckapoo's,

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Speaker 1: Eric Thomas. Eric, what's up? Welcome to around the NFL

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Speaker 1: love the Westlemania shirt. Uh? What is going on right

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01:06:41,480 --> 01:06:43,880
Speaker 1: now in Tybee? Well? I just want to tell you

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01:06:44,000 --> 01:06:47,080
Speaker 1: how good you look? Man? Have you been uh been vacationing?

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01:06:47,160 --> 01:06:49,040
Speaker 1: Is that what's going on? I'm on the Jersey shore

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01:06:49,160 --> 01:06:50,960
Speaker 1: right now, I'm north of you right now, you know,

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01:06:51,440 --> 01:06:54,920
Speaker 1: hanging out family, uh, having some cocktails and hanging on

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01:06:55,000 --> 01:06:57,880
Speaker 1: the I'm sitting I'm sitting right here, Eric, I'm sitting

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01:06:57,960 --> 01:07:00,440
Speaker 1: right here. The last time I saw he was the

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01:07:00,440 --> 01:07:03,240
Speaker 1: sweatiest man I've ever seen in mind. Oh my god.

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01:07:03,520 --> 01:07:06,400
Speaker 1: I don't know how we played the celebrity softball game,

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01:07:06,440 --> 01:07:09,040
Speaker 1: you know, he had all the biggest stars of Tybee

1310
01:07:09,040 --> 01:07:13,520
Speaker 1: Island against NFL, and we got toasted. And I don't

1311
01:07:13,520 --> 01:07:15,920
Speaker 1: know how you people survived down there, and that I

1312
01:07:15,960 --> 01:07:18,840
Speaker 1: certainly forgot heat. It was rough. I almost died on

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01:07:18,880 --> 01:07:21,880
Speaker 1: the field that day. And but let's move on from that.

1314
01:07:22,120 --> 01:07:24,560
Speaker 1: Something that was a bad day. And now another bad

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01:07:24,640 --> 01:07:26,880
Speaker 1: day here we go. Let's get into it. Was so

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01:07:28,040 --> 01:07:31,120
Speaker 1: we've been battling a little bit with the with the

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01:07:31,120 --> 01:07:35,440
Speaker 1: city and they sent me an email out of the

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01:07:35,480 --> 01:07:39,800
Speaker 1: blue and said you can no longer have music, including

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01:07:39,840 --> 01:07:46,240
Speaker 1: the radio after eleven o'clock PM. So there was no vote,

1320
01:07:46,600 --> 01:07:49,400
Speaker 1: there was no discussion, there was no communication with me.

1321
01:07:50,120 --> 01:07:54,480
Speaker 1: It's just an email sent from the city manager to myself.

1322
01:07:55,600 --> 01:08:00,520
Speaker 1: He said that eleven businesses were affected. The other ten

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01:08:00,600 --> 01:08:04,560
Speaker 1: businesses closed at ten o'clock. It's a target it's a

1324
01:08:04,600 --> 01:08:07,280
Speaker 1: targeted hit. Why why are they coming after you or

1325
01:08:07,400 --> 01:08:10,120
Speaker 1: do you have any type of heat. I'm trying to

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01:08:10,160 --> 01:08:12,200
Speaker 1: figure it out now I'm not I'm not a hundred

1327
01:08:12,200 --> 01:08:14,640
Speaker 1: percent why they're they're coming at me, he said. I

1328
01:08:14,680 --> 01:08:18,200
Speaker 1: asked the same question, he said, due to the numerous

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01:08:18,240 --> 01:08:22,360
Speaker 1: complaints that we've received. So I did a so I

1330
01:08:22,400 --> 01:08:26,880
Speaker 1: did UH open records request and I got a list

1331
01:08:26,880 --> 01:08:30,360
Speaker 1: of the complaints and the list stopped at one. There

1332
01:08:30,439 --> 01:08:34,960
Speaker 1: was one complaint about our noise over the past year,

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01:08:35,000 --> 01:08:38,439
Speaker 1: and that was on September four. I was wondering if

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01:08:38,479 --> 01:08:40,479
Speaker 1: you guys were here on September four. That's the reason

1335
01:08:40,560 --> 01:08:42,800
Speaker 1: I think. That's the reason I wanted to call and

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01:08:42,920 --> 01:08:47,960
Speaker 1: see if you guys are responsible. Someone with some money here,

1337
01:08:48,720 --> 01:08:51,640
Speaker 1: um who does who maybe lives nearby and doesn't like

1338
01:08:51,720 --> 01:08:55,320
Speaker 1: that it's late, is using some influence this. This would

1339
01:08:55,360 --> 01:08:59,280
Speaker 1: never have happened. Um. When our when our friend Jason

1340
01:08:59,360 --> 01:09:03,479
Speaker 1: was the mayor. Of course, Jason Gilderman, he married our

1341
01:09:03,520 --> 01:09:07,040
Speaker 1: our great friend Chris Westling. You know he he is

1342
01:09:07,040 --> 01:09:10,720
Speaker 1: who who officially joined Lakisha and Crazy. He was the

1343
01:09:10,760 --> 01:09:12,920
Speaker 1: accician of the of the wedding. He didn't Yeah, he

1344
01:09:12,960 --> 01:09:15,599
Speaker 1: was the efficient. I was looking for the word there. Uh,

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01:09:15,640 --> 01:09:18,439
Speaker 1: it wouldn't have happened under his watch. So like, what

1346
01:09:18,439 --> 01:09:21,479
Speaker 1: what can we do here? Um? We we don't want

1347
01:09:21,479 --> 01:09:23,679
Speaker 1: to come We don't want our listeners to come too hard.

1348
01:09:24,240 --> 01:09:28,080
Speaker 1: At whoever's making this decision, the city council. You you

1349
01:09:28,160 --> 01:09:32,040
Speaker 1: tell us, how can we help? Okay, okay, come hard.

1350
01:09:32,479 --> 01:09:34,599
Speaker 1: I'm just saying that's not gonna work. I don't want

1351
01:09:34,600 --> 01:09:36,639
Speaker 1: to think. Yes, that's I think Greg's making a point

1352
01:09:36,680 --> 01:09:40,200
Speaker 1: that crossed my mind yesterday that we have this great listenership,

1353
01:09:40,280 --> 01:09:43,960
Speaker 1: this loyal listenership, and every one of them absolutely love,

1354
01:09:44,479 --> 01:09:47,559
Speaker 1: loved and adored Chris Westling. And when you think about Chris,

1355
01:09:47,760 --> 01:09:50,600
Speaker 1: you think about Tybee, you think about Huck a Poos

1356
01:09:50,600 --> 01:09:53,040
Speaker 1: and my experiences at huck a Poo's, the night just

1357
01:09:53,080 --> 01:09:55,479
Speaker 1: starts heating up around eleven o'clock and everybody's having a

1358
01:09:55,479 --> 01:09:58,920
Speaker 1: great time outside it's and and um, that made me

1359
01:09:58,960 --> 01:10:02,680
Speaker 1: think that maybe you would defeated someone Eric and cornhole

1360
01:10:02,800 --> 01:10:05,080
Speaker 1: that and you've got on somebody's bad side that way,

1361
01:10:05,400 --> 01:10:08,000
Speaker 1: and a late night game. But what can we do?

1362
01:10:08,120 --> 01:10:11,160
Speaker 1: Because I don't want our listeners to come so hard

1363
01:10:11,200 --> 01:10:14,880
Speaker 1: that it becomes somehow hurts the cause. But maybe just

1364
01:10:15,040 --> 01:10:18,120
Speaker 1: voices carry here in this situation. Who who can we

1365
01:10:18,160 --> 01:10:21,040
Speaker 1: send the listeners to to make sure Hucka poos is

1366
01:10:21,040 --> 01:10:24,320
Speaker 1: an unfairly targeted and the city council needs to give

1367
01:10:24,680 --> 01:10:27,040
Speaker 1: you and all the other people who love Hucka, who's

1368
01:10:27,080 --> 01:10:28,840
Speaker 1: a voice? I'm hearing that they're not even letting you

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01:10:28,960 --> 01:10:34,200
Speaker 1: bring that up for conversation. I went and applied to

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01:10:34,200 --> 01:10:37,120
Speaker 1: be on the agenda for the next meeting that was

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01:10:37,200 --> 01:10:41,360
Speaker 1: last Thursday, and I got a call a few days

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01:10:41,360 --> 01:10:44,479
Speaker 1: before that said, I've been denied my my rights to

1373
01:10:44,920 --> 01:10:49,360
Speaker 1: speak in front of counsel about this issue. Now they

1374
01:10:49,400 --> 01:10:52,400
Speaker 1: have said, okay, we're gonna slow down this, we're not

1375
01:10:52,400 --> 01:10:54,680
Speaker 1: going to enforce this right now. But it's a it

1376
01:10:54,800 --> 01:10:57,600
Speaker 1: is a law on the books right now that was

1377
01:10:57,680 --> 01:11:02,040
Speaker 1: made by one man and and uh and he did

1378
01:11:02,040 --> 01:11:06,400
Speaker 1: it all himself under the guidance of the council. So

1379
01:11:06,479 --> 01:11:10,560
Speaker 1: I don't really know, you know at this point. Uh,

1380
01:11:10,640 --> 01:11:13,960
Speaker 1: you know, talking about West. One thing we learned from

1381
01:11:14,000 --> 01:11:15,680
Speaker 1: West is if we're gonna go down, we're gonna go

1382
01:11:15,720 --> 01:11:17,920
Speaker 1: down swinging right. We're gonna fight the whole time. So

1383
01:11:18,600 --> 01:11:20,719
Speaker 1: that's what I'm gonna do too. I'm gonna I'm gonna fight.

1384
01:11:21,120 --> 01:11:23,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna fight him as hard as I can and

1385
01:11:23,160 --> 01:11:27,880
Speaker 1: hopefully get this thing resolved. All right, And if there's

1386
01:11:27,920 --> 01:11:30,879
Speaker 1: someone that our listeners can either tweet out or email,

1387
01:11:31,640 --> 01:11:34,200
Speaker 1: maybe you could let us know, Eric, and we'll make

1388
01:11:34,240 --> 01:11:38,200
Speaker 1: sure that message gets across, because in all seriousness that

1389
01:11:39,160 --> 01:11:41,880
Speaker 1: you know, that really was a place that before we

1390
01:11:41,920 --> 01:11:44,439
Speaker 1: even went to Hackapoos. I remember there were shows because

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01:11:44,520 --> 01:11:47,880
Speaker 1: Chris every time he was on vacation um from the NFL,

1392
01:11:47,960 --> 01:11:50,280
Speaker 1: he would always fly back east and always spend time

1393
01:11:50,320 --> 01:11:53,880
Speaker 1: back in Tybee. So many friends, dear friends there and

1394
01:11:53,920 --> 01:11:55,920
Speaker 1: we had a running I'm sure you were on the

1395
01:11:55,920 --> 01:11:59,360
Speaker 1: show before, Eric, where we called the bar and asked

1396
01:11:59,360 --> 01:12:01,360
Speaker 1: for West just not a lark that he would be there,

1397
01:12:01,439 --> 01:12:05,320
Speaker 1: and many times he was. Yeah. So this is uh,

1398
01:12:05,360 --> 01:12:07,599
Speaker 1: this is an important place in the history of this

1399
01:12:07,640 --> 01:12:10,639
Speaker 1: program and obviously on the island. So anything we can

1400
01:12:10,680 --> 01:12:14,360
Speaker 1: do to help write this injustice. It's a disgrace. And

1401
01:12:14,640 --> 01:12:19,240
Speaker 1: your government, the government works for us, the people, and

1402
01:12:19,360 --> 01:12:22,439
Speaker 1: right now it's not. It is not working for the people.

1403
01:12:22,479 --> 01:12:26,160
Speaker 1: It's working for someone, some shadowy figure. And we have

1404
01:12:26,240 --> 01:12:28,720
Speaker 1: issues with shadowy league figures. On our program. There's a

1405
01:12:28,720 --> 01:12:31,759
Speaker 1: shadowy figure out there that I don't know what happened.

1406
01:12:31,800 --> 01:12:33,920
Speaker 1: I don't know who's taking handouts or what's going on.

1407
01:12:34,000 --> 01:12:36,280
Speaker 1: But this needs to stop. This needs to be rectified.

1408
01:12:36,880 --> 01:12:39,400
Speaker 1: It's part of the fabric of that island. And the

1409
01:12:39,960 --> 01:12:44,439
Speaker 1: community is rallying UH right now behind me and UH.

1410
01:12:44,520 --> 01:12:47,639
Speaker 1: And I certainly appreciate that everybody that's UH that's reached

1411
01:12:47,680 --> 01:12:50,719
Speaker 1: out to the city council and to UH and posted

1412
01:12:50,760 --> 01:12:53,400
Speaker 1: their things on Facebook, and it's been awesome to show

1413
01:12:53,439 --> 01:12:56,960
Speaker 1: the support, to feel the love from the community which

1414
01:12:56,960 --> 01:13:00,679
Speaker 1: has always been so good to us, so UH special

1415
01:13:00,680 --> 01:13:03,920
Speaker 1: thanks to them for sure. But but we're gonna, you know,

1416
01:13:04,000 --> 01:13:07,160
Speaker 1: we're gonna we're gonna fight it, and we're gonna we're

1417
01:13:07,160 --> 01:13:09,360
Speaker 1: gonna see, uh see what happens. But we'll take it

1418
01:13:09,360 --> 01:13:11,400
Speaker 1: as far as we can go, because I'm definitely not

1419
01:13:11,439 --> 01:13:14,200
Speaker 1: gonna lie down on this one. Yeah, you shouldn't that.

1420
01:13:14,280 --> 01:13:17,080
Speaker 1: You know that Westwood West would want you to. West

1421
01:13:17,160 --> 01:13:19,880
Speaker 1: loves Hucka Poos more than anything. He would fight it.

1422
01:13:19,920 --> 01:13:21,760
Speaker 1: And and what our listeners can do is what they've

1423
01:13:21,800 --> 01:13:24,240
Speaker 1: been doing, keep going to hock A Poos. We love

1424
01:13:25,040 --> 01:13:29,320
Speaker 1: getting messages very often from overseas listeners who are in

1425
01:13:29,400 --> 01:13:32,320
Speaker 1: the area, so they come in and wanting to know,

1426
01:13:33,080 --> 01:13:39,559
Speaker 1: uh where west is retired Jersey? Is that or like

1427
01:13:39,680 --> 01:13:43,679
Speaker 1: so you'd be surprised at how many people, uh take

1428
01:13:43,680 --> 01:13:46,639
Speaker 1: a pilgrimage to huck a poos just because of Chris Westling.

1429
01:13:46,720 --> 01:13:49,760
Speaker 1: It's a it's amazing, really, it's amazing. We love when

1430
01:13:49,840 --> 01:13:52,599
Speaker 1: when you when our listeners send us those and keep

1431
01:13:52,640 --> 01:13:55,200
Speaker 1: doing it, because it just feels like if there's one

1432
01:13:55,240 --> 01:13:57,400
Speaker 1: thing in the world you could do to honor Chris,

1433
01:13:57,439 --> 01:13:59,679
Speaker 1: like that's it. Go have a good day there, send

1434
01:13:59,720 --> 01:14:02,320
Speaker 1: us a picture like spread the love. It's amazing. I

1435
01:14:02,320 --> 01:14:07,960
Speaker 1: do have one one theory though, of maybe what happened, Um, okay,

1436
01:14:08,640 --> 01:14:13,320
Speaker 1: did you do any kind of um stacking of your

1437
01:14:13,920 --> 01:14:18,639
Speaker 1: softball team, um with some ringers that maybe got somewhat

1438
01:14:18,720 --> 01:14:21,800
Speaker 1: upset and now is somehow using influence because you're wearing

1439
01:14:21,840 --> 01:14:24,840
Speaker 1: this Westlemania softball shirt and you know, we haven't seen

1440
01:14:24,880 --> 01:14:29,519
Speaker 1: you since since that day. Um, and I wouldn't say, like,

1441
01:14:30,200 --> 01:14:32,559
Speaker 1: you know what you did that day to really stack

1442
01:14:32,680 --> 01:14:35,559
Speaker 1: your team with some ringers that barely even New West

1443
01:14:35,640 --> 01:14:39,320
Speaker 1: that we're off the island, was was totally in good spirit,

1444
01:14:39,400 --> 01:14:42,280
Speaker 1: in good, good sporting spirit. So maybe that happened in

1445
01:14:42,320 --> 01:14:44,720
Speaker 1: some other way and that that's what's going on here.

1446
01:14:45,200 --> 01:14:46,840
Speaker 1: I see what you're doing there. I see what you're doing.

1447
01:14:47,120 --> 01:14:52,720
Speaker 1: I appreciate that, you know, but those guys were just

1448
01:14:52,840 --> 01:14:57,120
Speaker 1: fans of West. They weren't necessarily friends. We're still salty

1449
01:14:57,160 --> 01:15:00,479
Speaker 1: about that. We're still salty about that. Next we come down,

1450
01:15:00,560 --> 01:15:02,679
Speaker 1: our fans of West are gonna be you know, Mike

1451
01:15:02,720 --> 01:15:08,519
Speaker 1: Trout and Juan Soto. Well, we're actually hoping to come

1452
01:15:08,560 --> 01:15:13,800
Speaker 1: out there for the next softball game. So that people

1453
01:15:14,240 --> 01:15:18,640
Speaker 1: speaking of west Linkfield where we played ball, it is

1454
01:15:19,120 --> 01:15:22,840
Speaker 1: the home to the Little League UM softball team that

1455
01:15:22,920 --> 01:15:25,400
Speaker 1: won the first their first victory ever in a Little

1456
01:15:25,439 --> 01:15:29,360
Speaker 1: League World Series game right here from Tybee Island. So

1457
01:15:29,439 --> 01:15:33,800
Speaker 1: it was a big on field that that's amazing. Train

1458
01:15:33,880 --> 01:15:36,120
Speaker 1: at west Linkfield. We actually played at Warner Robbins, but

1459
01:15:36,960 --> 01:15:40,559
Speaker 1: they trained at west Linkfield and uh and and history

1460
01:15:40,640 --> 01:15:43,519
Speaker 1: was made, the first victory ever. So it was at

1461
01:15:44,439 --> 01:15:47,720
Speaker 1: and if you do if and listeners, um as the

1462
01:15:47,760 --> 01:15:53,439
Speaker 1: pilgrimage pilgrimages continue to Tybee. Yes, absolutely hit up Hucka

1463
01:15:53,479 --> 01:15:57,080
Speaker 1: Pool's multiple times, but yes, get to Westling Field which

1464
01:15:57,120 --> 01:15:59,040
Speaker 1: was such an amazing job, Eric, and I know you

1465
01:15:59,080 --> 01:16:01,839
Speaker 1: were a vital part of it getting that field renamed

1466
01:16:01,840 --> 01:16:05,479
Speaker 1: Westling Field. There's also a wonderful plaque um that talks

1467
01:16:05,479 --> 01:16:08,040
Speaker 1: about how special west was. Make sure he checked out

1468
01:16:08,040 --> 01:16:11,160
Speaker 1: as well. It's really a special place, Tybee and and

1469
01:16:11,240 --> 01:16:13,920
Speaker 1: I hope um, Eric, everything works out here and whatever

1470
01:16:14,000 --> 01:16:16,400
Speaker 1: we can do to help, we will do. I appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Karen Thomas, Yes, developing news. A crooked government, local government

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01:16:24,840 --> 01:16:30,040
Speaker 1: down there in Georgia's coming after a beloved institution our podcast, Greg,

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01:16:30,040 --> 01:16:32,680
Speaker 1: We're just not gonna stand for that. We're there's so

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01:16:32,720 --> 01:16:35,559
Speaker 1: many things we've lost our faith in our leaders, and

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01:16:35,640 --> 01:16:39,320
Speaker 1: here's just another example on the local scale. No, I'm

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01:16:39,320 --> 01:16:44,320
Speaker 1: looking forward to continuing to update this story. And I

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01:16:44,360 --> 01:16:47,200
Speaker 1: feel like it's it's like a classic sports movie story

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01:16:47,240 --> 01:16:50,600
Speaker 1: where there's just clearly a bad guy here. You got

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01:16:50,680 --> 01:16:52,720
Speaker 1: to find out who there's clearly a good guy. And

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01:16:52,720 --> 01:16:55,520
Speaker 1: I think we're gonna get our sports movie ending eventually

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01:16:55,640 --> 01:16:58,960
Speaker 1: and we'll be able to celebrate, uh this this idea

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01:16:59,080 --> 01:17:01,599
Speaker 1: being knocked down with Eric again on the show hopefully. Well,

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01:17:01,640 --> 01:17:03,800
Speaker 1: you know, it would be actually a fun thing to do.

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01:17:03,840 --> 01:17:05,160
Speaker 1: And I know things are about to pick up and

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01:17:05,160 --> 01:17:09,640
Speaker 1: get busy. But if we could, you know, maybe do

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01:17:09,720 --> 01:17:13,600
Speaker 1: some type of fundraising too, have an ad campaign that

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01:17:13,640 --> 01:17:17,400
Speaker 1: will air on local television down there. We just need

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01:17:17,439 --> 01:17:20,760
Speaker 1: to find out who this guy is. We don't really

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01:17:20,760 --> 01:17:22,639
Speaker 1: know what to do here at this point right as

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01:17:22,640 --> 01:17:24,639
Speaker 1: you can tell, listeners, we're trying to figure out how

1491
01:17:24,640 --> 01:17:26,960
Speaker 1: to help and we're gonna work on that and we'll

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01:17:27,160 --> 01:17:30,400
Speaker 1: be sure to keep you updated. Um, but I think

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01:17:30,439 --> 01:17:34,280
Speaker 1: finding out who is the the slime ball, the human

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01:17:34,320 --> 01:17:38,200
Speaker 1: gutter ball behind this uh, that's step one, I think,

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01:17:39,120 --> 01:17:43,400
Speaker 1: and then we pounce. No one can stop us, No

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01:17:43,400 --> 01:17:46,120
Speaker 1: one can stop our listeners. We get everyone together. We're

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01:17:46,120 --> 01:17:49,880
Speaker 1: a powerful force, all right. We are this podcasts a

1498
01:17:49,920 --> 01:17:53,840
Speaker 1: powerful force. Bill Barnwell, powerful force. Thank you to Bill

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01:17:53,920 --> 01:17:57,960
Speaker 1: for joining us. We'll be back on Thursday with another show.

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Speaker 1: It's our last last two show week before we dive

1501
01:18:01,479 --> 01:18:03,760
Speaker 1: all in. We get back together in the studio in

1502
01:18:03,960 --> 01:18:05,559
Speaker 1: l A starting next week. So we got one more

1503
01:18:05,600 --> 01:18:08,040
Speaker 1: show coming up this week, so make sure you check

1504
01:18:08,120 --> 01:18:12,559
Speaker 1: that out until then. As the Great Chris Westling just

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01:18:12,560 --> 01:18:21,720
Speaker 1: want to say, he the car, all right, Let's get

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01:18:21,760 --> 01:18:28,320
Speaker 1: him a call. Dear God, please pick up Hi, can

1507
01:18:28,439 --> 01:18:32,519
Speaker 1: uh I speak to Chris Westley? Is he at your establishment? Um?

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01:18:32,680 --> 01:18:35,599
Speaker 1: We built a shower for patrons. He may be crying

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01:18:35,600 --> 01:18:40,840
Speaker 1: in it. Whoa, let me let me they've seen him.

1510
01:18:40,840 --> 01:18:45,479
Speaker 1: They've spun him. All right, great, I love hucka poos corpses.

1511
01:18:45,520 --> 01:18:52,200
Speaker 1: Don't cry. Hello. There he is there. He is Christopher Westling.

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01:18:52,200 --> 01:18:56,000
Speaker 1: It is almost six pm on Tybee Island. How you doing, buddy?

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01:18:57,000 --> 01:19:00,679
Speaker 1: I'm going wonderfully. Oh did I just hear someone yelling

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01:19:00,880 --> 01:19:04,519
Speaker 1: the background? They found him? Like they knew we were

1515
01:19:04,520 --> 01:19:08,839
Speaker 1: looking for you, are't we? We? I had gold standard

1516
01:19:08,880 --> 01:19:11,000
Speaker 1: put the authorities online too in case you didn't pick

1517
01:19:11,040 --> 01:19:15,080
Speaker 1: up this time. We were nervous authorities to my presence.

1518
01:19:16,439 --> 01:19:21,800
Speaker 1: What's going on? How's your vacation been, im? How's the

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01:19:21,880 --> 01:19:28,240
Speaker 1: has the trip in so far buddy? And exceeded Chris?

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01:19:28,240 --> 01:19:30,120
Speaker 1: We want to know earlier in the week you mentioned

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01:19:30,160 --> 01:19:32,599
Speaker 1: to us that you were garage drinking. I just want

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01:19:32,640 --> 01:19:35,240
Speaker 1: to know that sounds fun to me. What's that mean?

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01:19:36,439 --> 01:19:40,400
Speaker 1: So the people I'm staying with they have a bar

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01:19:40,640 --> 01:19:50,160
Speaker 1: in the garage and turning to some fun shenanigans on

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01:19:47,600 --> 01:19:53,960
Speaker 1: funding where you've got people houses and you expect to

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01:19:54,000 --> 01:19:58,280
Speaker 1: have you know fun? So one of my favorite stories

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01:19:59,000 --> 01:20:02,120
Speaker 1: been here is it right shot? For the garage drinking

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01:20:02,120 --> 01:20:05,960
Speaker 1: on the first day and the little golf cart cab

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01:20:06,040 --> 01:20:09,439
Speaker 1: that comes around the island. Everyone just drops off two

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01:20:09,520 --> 01:20:16,320
Speaker 1: cases of beer for the golf club the other day,

1531
01:20:17,200 --> 01:20:20,960
Speaker 1: like a regular payment for the golf cart. Tech we

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01:20:21,120 --> 01:20:26,880
Speaker 1: drop off. It's like a very friendly barter system. There's

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01:20:26,920 --> 01:20:29,600
Speaker 1: nothing wrong with it. This basically sounds like heaven on

1534
01:20:29,640 --> 01:20:32,960
Speaker 1: Earth for Chris Westling and maybe many of our listeners

1535
01:20:33,000 --> 01:20:36,800
Speaker 1: like a utopia that they couldn't imagine truly exists. Yeah,

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01:20:36,840 --> 01:20:40,479
Speaker 1: I'm not coming back, by the way. That was our

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01:20:40,520 --> 01:20:42,639
Speaker 1: next question before we let you go west And it's

1538
01:20:42,640 --> 01:20:44,040
Speaker 1: great to hear your voice and we look forward to

1539
01:20:44,080 --> 01:20:46,639
Speaker 1: seeing you. You missed a game that we played last

1540
01:20:46,640 --> 01:20:48,960
Speaker 1: week that you really you'll enjoy, will bring it back?

1541
01:20:51,560 --> 01:20:54,920
Speaker 1: What do you What does that mean? You didn't like it?

1542
01:20:55,160 --> 01:20:58,400
Speaker 1: And Mark you never take Ryan Danno ever drew breathing,

1543
01:20:58,439 --> 01:21:03,280
Speaker 1: no matter the situation that probably anyway, the game is.

1544
01:21:06,360 --> 01:21:09,720
Speaker 1: The game is called koalast Fantasia. And I'll throw one

1545
01:21:09,720 --> 01:21:12,160
Speaker 1: out to you before you go, all right, if you

1546
01:21:12,200 --> 01:21:15,920
Speaker 1: could pick one person to ghost write a biography about

1547
01:21:15,960 --> 01:21:19,439
Speaker 1: your life. Who would it be? Greg Rosenthal or Mark

1548
01:21:19,520 --> 01:21:24,200
Speaker 1: Sessler from the Ryer? No, no, no, I don't think

1549
01:21:24,200 --> 01:21:28,719
Speaker 1: you heard the question because hucka, who's has the first phone? Ever? Apparently, uh,

1550
01:21:28,880 --> 01:21:34,360
Speaker 1: you have to choose either Greg Rosenthal or Mark Sessler. Mark, Yeah,

1551
01:21:34,360 --> 01:21:41,680
Speaker 1: it's got to be Mark. Mark. I was wondering if

1552
01:21:41,680 --> 01:21:43,559
Speaker 1: you're worried about your job security, but you went with

1553
01:21:43,560 --> 01:21:45,679
Speaker 1: the truthful answer, and I respect that I was pointing

1554
01:21:45,680 --> 01:21:47,720
Speaker 1: at Mark the whole time. This seems like I love

1555
01:21:47,760 --> 01:21:50,560
Speaker 1: that made the question. If you should knows that the

1556
01:21:50,640 --> 01:21:54,280
Speaker 1: question made very uncomfortable in the studio. Mark would Mark

1557
01:21:54,320 --> 01:22:00,760
Speaker 1: would be murders in different county. That's true with Mark,

1558
01:22:00,800 --> 01:22:05,320
Speaker 1: there'd be a sense of intrigue and mystery and you

1559
01:22:05,320 --> 01:22:08,000
Speaker 1: could provide that too. Um, all right, West, we need

1560
01:22:08,040 --> 01:22:10,280
Speaker 1: to get to the back to the show because Gold

1561
01:22:10,320 --> 01:22:13,360
Speaker 1: Standards taking over the direction for the rest of the program.

1562
01:22:13,360 --> 01:22:15,400
Speaker 1: But it's great to hear your voice. And please please

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01:22:15,439 --> 01:22:19,719
Speaker 1: come home. I kidding, I'm coming on. I love coming

1564
01:22:19,760 --> 01:22:24,759
Speaker 1: you now, and I rove your God, I mean idiots

1565
01:22:24,760 --> 01:22:30,919
Speaker 1: pretty a wos all. I am alive and well, contrary

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01:22:31,000 --> 01:22:36,280
Speaker 1: to popular conventional theory, and I all right love you well.