WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: Concern At Wide Receiver?

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<v Speaker 1>This he's Talking Cowboys rereading live from the Dallas Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>World headquarters at the Star in Frisco. Cha. Here are

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<v Speaker 1>Mickey Spagnola, Brian Rods, Rob Phillips, and Taylor Stern. Welcome

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<v Speaker 1>everybody here into the SWBC Mortgage Studio. We are excited

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<v Speaker 1>after one week of OTAs, we have more to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about here. Of course we have to recap OTAs what happened,

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<v Speaker 1>what you should know. Of course, we've definitely got Rob's

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<v Speaker 1>Twitter poll coming up in the third segment, So if

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<v Speaker 1>you haven't voted, you need to vote. Mickey, you voted,

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<v Speaker 1>I did, I swung? This percentage is great. Yes, if

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<v Speaker 1>Mickey voted, you guys better get there. Go to our

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<v Speaker 1>Twitter account at Talking Cowboys. And of course we have

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<v Speaker 1>owners meetings to review and then looking ahead to OTA's

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<v Speaker 1>week at number two. So we're in it. We're ready

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<v Speaker 1>to win. We have officially one hundred days until the

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<v Speaker 1>NFL season today, not necessarily the Cowboys season, but until

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL season starts. It's one hundred, exactly one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>for the cow Thursday Night opener. The Cowboys opener, Thursday

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<v Speaker 1>Night opener on Thursday, will be a hundred for the Cowboys.

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<v Speaker 1>So and it feels like two days till training camp.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna wake up tomorrow and it's gonna be time

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<v Speaker 1>to get on that play. Two months Yeah, well, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>roughly right. You're excited about this training camp? Seven weeks?

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely all right? You enjoy all that because it's already

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<v Speaker 1>a hundred degrees out, Yes, exactly, start right there. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Mickey's minutes a training camp were hard to come up,

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<v Speaker 1>come by because he was so happy out there. I

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<v Speaker 1>know he was. Yeah, bring those back well because I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have to read the durned paper every morning. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>oh yeah, life just goes by a little slower for

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<v Speaker 1>a newspaper man. That's a hard thing to do, right, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of stuff in this world. Yeah, there

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<v Speaker 1>is about that. Yeah, well, that's why we have the

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<v Speaker 1>joy of talking about Cowboys. And it's exciting it's going

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<v Speaker 1>on out here. And the first thing I want to

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<v Speaker 1>ask you guys, because we've got a lot to get into,

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<v Speaker 1>is this the making of a dangerous Cowboys defense? And

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<v Speaker 1>I pose that question to my lovely panel here because

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<v Speaker 1>of what I saw at OTAs. We were all fortunate

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<v Speaker 1>to see DeMarcus Lawrence get the tag, his attitude toward it.

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<v Speaker 1>You know he's talking, I'm not the normal guy here

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<v Speaker 1>in this situation. We have a fully healthy Jalen Smith,

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<v Speaker 1>Byron Jones fully at cornerback. We've talked extensively about what

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Richard can possibly do with this young secondary. You

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<v Speaker 1>have the undrafted Cam Kelly making a little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>a splash there, Sean Lee being smart taking a second

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<v Speaker 1>to not just jump into Ota, saving his body. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's why I wanted to get you guys to discuss

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<v Speaker 1>this at least because I think there's something that all

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<v Speaker 1>fans are excited about. Is this something you can hold

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<v Speaker 1>on to. It's a great discussion point. I like that because, um,

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<v Speaker 1>I think you can look at certain spots on the

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<v Speaker 1>defense and say this might be the deepest we've seen

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<v Speaker 1>under Rod Marinelli. I'm looking at the defensive line and

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<v Speaker 1>maybe that pass rush rotation and say, wow, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>if Lawrence Armstrong fourth round pick, can develop, Cony Eely

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<v Speaker 1>steps in. Rod's always liked a big rotation, But maybe

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<v Speaker 1>this is a group with Lawrence coming on as a

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<v Speaker 1>Pro Bowl guy, this might be the best pass Russian

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<v Speaker 1>group he's had since he came here In twenty thirteen,

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<v Speaker 1>fourteen came here with Ryan after rob Ryan after Yeah, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm this is gonna sound weird, but I'm gonna the rotation.

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<v Speaker 1>I it might this defense might come down to what

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<v Speaker 1>do they do? What do they figure out a defensive tackle?

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<v Speaker 1>And I saw some good things from jahad Ward and

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<v Speaker 1>I and I and I mean this in a positive

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<v Speaker 1>way of movement, strength, being difficult to block. Again, it's

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<v Speaker 1>different when you have pads on. He might just go

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<v Speaker 1>by the wayside and we get to Yeah. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>if you for a team looking for defensive tackle help,

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<v Speaker 1>this jihad Ward trade might have might pan out for

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<v Speaker 1>these guys. If if you weren't going to do anything

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<v Speaker 1>with Ryan Switzer, you know, if you had an idea

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<v Speaker 1>of plans for other things, or and you said, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>we're not gonna anything Ryan Switzer, We'll just move off

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<v Speaker 1>from him. But to get jihad Ward, if in fact

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<v Speaker 1>he comes in, I would not be surprised if jihad

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<v Speaker 1>Ward push his first starting role here. I really really wouldn't.

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<v Speaker 1>I think there's that tight he's got that kind of ability.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's you know, if you're depending on what's

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<v Speaker 1>happened with Collins and his foot. You're gonna see plenty

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<v Speaker 1>of Jihad Ward and I'm really I'm fascinated by I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't seeing him on tape was different for me than

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<v Speaker 1>seeing him live and seeing him move around in his size,

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<v Speaker 1>his physical size. I just I'm kind of throwing that

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<v Speaker 1>out there as a guy that that might make a difference,

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<v Speaker 1>one of those trades that might actually work out for

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<v Speaker 1>this football team. They need him to make a difference,

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<v Speaker 1>because if you look at that defensive line rotation at

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<v Speaker 1>tackle during that Ota practice, you're sitting there and going, hmm,

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<v Speaker 1>there's no Collins, David Irving right right right, and you're

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<v Speaker 1>going and you're looking at the second team guys, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's Ash and Brian Price, Price, and although they kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like Price, yeah, brought him back, but nothing Dayton Jones. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Dayton Jones was working with the first team exactly. A

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<v Speaker 1>guy's missing, and it's like, I don't know, but you're

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<v Speaker 1>count Onmolee coming back healthy. Well, you're counting on David

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<v Speaker 1>Irving getting in joy Healthy's a kind of you were

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<v Speaker 1>counting on it, and but you still got to have

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<v Speaker 1>another defensive tackle to start, Yeah, and and and you

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<v Speaker 1>know we'll see about all these defensive ends. I know

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of optimism out there with these guys,

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<v Speaker 1>but we got to see and I think you saying

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<v Speaker 1>that Jalen Smith's one hundred percent healthy, maybe of tad optimistic.

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<v Speaker 1>Also we got to see it when the pads come on.

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<v Speaker 1>And then how quickly vander Esh is able to read

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<v Speaker 1>into her. I read into her comment is the no brace,

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<v Speaker 1>which makes me feel like that at least they feel

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<v Speaker 1>comfortable enough health wise that that they, Hey, he doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>need to play with the brace. Okay, now we'll see

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<v Speaker 1>how well now play? And now now to your point,

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<v Speaker 1>is okay, the thing I noticed and I'm sorry if

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<v Speaker 1>I'm shifting away from the defensive line, but I know

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<v Speaker 1>these okay. With Vanderesh, I didn't see Vanderesh in the

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<v Speaker 1>one time we got to see him play. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>see him move from the middle. I didn't see him.

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<v Speaker 1>He was primarily a So okay is it? And OTA's

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<v Speaker 1>it's real easy to move guys around just to see

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<v Speaker 1>how they look. Jalen Smith was the one guy that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of moved around a little bit. And and maybe

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<v Speaker 1>that's something that we're going to read into when we

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<v Speaker 1>get to Oxnard that Okay, they're gonna play Jalen Smith

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<v Speaker 1>at some other position. Yeah, he could play mike linebacker.

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<v Speaker 1>But use of these guys, they'll kind of the rookie guy.

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<v Speaker 1>They'll say, Okay, let's see if he can play this.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's see if he could play this. Let's see if

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<v Speaker 1>he can play this. Yeah, And it looked like to

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<v Speaker 1>me that they were kept. They were keeping Layton vander

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<v Speaker 1>Eshes at mike linebacker. So to the point about Jalen Smith,

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<v Speaker 1>if he could play without the brace, give you something

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<v Speaker 1>as one of the other linebackers, whether it's the mic,

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<v Speaker 1>the sam wherever he has to play. Yeah, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, now your defense is getting back. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think he'll ever be as good as he

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<v Speaker 1>was at Notre Dame. But I think he'll be better

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<v Speaker 1>than he was last year. I do believe that. I'm assuming,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm just gonna ask questions. You guys are all

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<v Speaker 1>good with Sean Lee just taking this rest? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>save him from himself, save him from himself. That's right.

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<v Speaker 1>At and we talked. I talked to him for a

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<v Speaker 1>while with some other reporters. He's still out there. He's

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<v Speaker 1>out there. He says he's feeling good, but you know,

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<v Speaker 1>that hamstring. They're focused on what they can do stretching wise,

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<v Speaker 1>and just different things they can do to try to

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<v Speaker 1>keep that thing healthy and long term, you know, because

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<v Speaker 1>it has been an issue for him, and it was

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<v Speaker 1>an issue for him multiple times last year. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>no reason to push it for him. I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>a normal routine for him this time of year. But

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<v Speaker 1>at the same time, they're mindful of that hamstring. You

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<v Speaker 1>know what, It's almost a blessing because they don't need

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<v Speaker 1>him out there. Yeah, Joe Thomas gets to work and

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<v Speaker 1>they get there. You go, yeah, weak side because you

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<v Speaker 1>still need a backup. And I think when you mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>vander esh they kept him a middle linebacker, but I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know that you want to overload the rookie right away. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and so that gives him moving around though, Oh he

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it will be I'll make the prediction right now.

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<v Speaker 1>It will be on the Nickel defense. Oh no, that's

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<v Speaker 1>that's very It was. Best traits is his ability to coverage,

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<v Speaker 1>and I noticed because he can get he can then

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<v Speaker 1>he notices where the ball is aware and drive on it.

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<v Speaker 1>Not to break it up, but drive on it to

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<v Speaker 1>make a tackle. Right plan, Playing Mike makes the most

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<v Speaker 1>sense because they believe he can play Mike or Will Well.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's Sean Lee's spot. And when you hear team

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<v Speaker 1>officials talk about who he can be, it's yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a Brian er Lacker type. It's a relatable comparison. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Orlando McLean a guy because you gotta have a guy

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<v Speaker 1>in the middle who can cover a just uh, come

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<v Speaker 1>up and tackle, cover a lot of ground and he's

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<v Speaker 1>able to. You've talked about that. His movement is probably

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<v Speaker 1>his best side. They've targeted him as a guy clearly

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<v Speaker 1>that has that ability to, like Mickey said, to play

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<v Speaker 1>in those sub packages where it's drop, read, react, get

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<v Speaker 1>to the football, because he could do all that for

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<v Speaker 1>a for a long guy, he's got some ability to turn.

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<v Speaker 1>Usually with long leg or limbed players, it takes them

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<v Speaker 1>time to turn to get everything going the right direction.

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<v Speaker 1>With him, it's very quick and the way he gets

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<v Speaker 1>going and I think that's one of the traits that

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<v Speaker 1>they really really liked about him. I mentioned mentioned Joe

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<v Speaker 1>Thomas again, I like, I appreciate you doing that though

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<v Speaker 1>I think the will linebacker stuff that he showed some

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<v Speaker 1>stuff because he was a middle linebacker with Green Bay.

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<v Speaker 1>But he's got some of the traits that you see

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<v Speaker 1>with mobility wise and things. They used some things with

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<v Speaker 1>him and the nickel playing with him and Vander Eshens

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<v Speaker 1>and as those guys and I saw, I saw some

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<v Speaker 1>good things with him as far as the read, the reaction,

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<v Speaker 1>getting to the football, the ability to run. Uh. You

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<v Speaker 1>know there were some times at Green Bay where you

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<v Speaker 1>watched and play where he didn't have that kind those

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<v Speaker 1>kinds of traits. Uh, you know, got caught in some

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<v Speaker 1>coverage Carolina game I thought was really good for him

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<v Speaker 1>as far as some of the coverage things, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>having to deal with some of their packages out of

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<v Speaker 1>the backfield. But you know this, this might be another

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<v Speaker 1>one of those gets that the pro guys had a guy,

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<v Speaker 1>had a guy in mind, and they said, Okay, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>inexpensive guy, let's go get him. Uh, just some of

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<v Speaker 1>the some positive things about him early in this camp.

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<v Speaker 1>I think from an athletic standpoint, they're better at linebacker

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<v Speaker 1>with this group. Yes, from a depth standpoint, because that

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<v Speaker 1>was a concern, right, huge concern and huge concern. You

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<v Speaker 1>know Durant couldn't stay healthy and he was at the

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<v Speaker 1>end of his career, and then you really after that

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<v Speaker 1>were you didn't have much. Yeah, we're really not even

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<v Speaker 1>talk Yeah, we're not talking about we're not even talking

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<v Speaker 1>about Damian Wilson, who was a starter, and we're not

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<v Speaker 1>even talking about Covington yet, right, you know? And at

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<v Speaker 1>Indiana and it certainly looks the party. He sure does

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<v Speaker 1>and so good Bill. That's the thing about it is

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<v Speaker 1>can they can? They did? They? Did? They help this

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<v Speaker 1>linebacker crew enough with the guys they've added, and do

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<v Speaker 1>they gonna put guys in the right spot? I think

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<v Speaker 1>that they they have a plan for how they want

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<v Speaker 1>to play it. Let's hope that all the health holds up.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm for Shaun Lee at training camp. He could

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<v Speaker 1>stand next to me all day. Just let him coach, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>him to slip board. I really don't need to do

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<v Speaker 1>a good job now, Seriously, I don't need any wear

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<v Speaker 1>and tear on Shawn Lee. I don't need those practices.

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<v Speaker 1>As we've seen those practices can be pretty physical with

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<v Speaker 1>Garrett in that bunch and I and I'm okay with

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<v Speaker 1>just letting Seaun Lee save some wear and tear on

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<v Speaker 1>his body. I don't think, Sean, you have to worry

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<v Speaker 1>about shun Lee having rusted. I asked him what that

0:12:20.320 --> 0:12:21.959
<v Speaker 1>conversation is like every year. It was kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>when Witten was here, was like the trainers talk to him,

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<v Speaker 1>the coaches talk to him, and he fights him at first,

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<v Speaker 1>and then it's like, all right, I get it. This

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<v Speaker 1>is better. Yeah, he feels like he needs to be

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<v Speaker 1>out his voice needs to be out there. He needs

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<v Speaker 1>to be leading from the front, is what he said.

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<v Speaker 1>But look, it's may you know, let's get him ready

0:12:38.559 --> 0:12:40.959
<v Speaker 1>for August and said, well, well too, Yeah, I think

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<v Speaker 1>September being September being the most important thing we've seen.

0:12:45.240 --> 0:12:48.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's been documented by our show. And again,

0:12:48.600 --> 0:12:51.360
<v Speaker 1>you don't need some former scout telling you. You watch

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<v Speaker 1>the games he doesn't play. They're not as good on defense.

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<v Speaker 1>Whatever you can do to let him play the forty

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<v Speaker 1>fifty sixty snaps a game, do it. Whatever you have

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<v Speaker 1>to do. Go that route, saying I still think there's

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<v Speaker 1>a question mark at right corner and the slot. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to move. I'm not just saying Byron Jones

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<v Speaker 1>is over there, and that's he's got it and that

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<v Speaker 1>makes him better. You're not giving up that fight. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>there are there are questions about all this. I appreciate

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<v Speaker 1>you saying that though. I mean, he's he's done some

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<v Speaker 1>good things over there. I've seen his ability to kind

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<v Speaker 1>of shadow the receiver a little bit better. But again,

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<v Speaker 1>he hasn't played over there. He hasn't done that but

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<v Speaker 1>four games he started his rookie year. So let's see

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<v Speaker 1>what he can do and how that affects who goes

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<v Speaker 1>in the slot, because what if he it doesn't work?

0:13:46.200 --> 0:13:49.760
<v Speaker 1>Is Anthony Brown out there? You know? Is Jordan Lewis

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<v Speaker 1>out there? And who's in the slot? Yeah? What do

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<v Speaker 1>you think is Byron Jones's best trait from what you've seen? Well,

0:13:57.800 --> 0:14:02.280
<v Speaker 1>I mean he's he's got great athletic ability. Now does

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<v Speaker 1>he have the football acumen to be able to play

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<v Speaker 1>that corner? To know how? And I think that's what

0:14:11.640 --> 0:14:15.160
<v Speaker 1>he's got to prove otherwise he's back to safety. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And then you saying, Okay, well I don't have to

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<v Speaker 1>worry about my safety depth and I'll go back and

0:14:20.720 --> 0:14:24.520
<v Speaker 1>I'll go to my graves saying no one ever finished

0:14:24.520 --> 0:14:26.400
<v Speaker 1>the season and said, you know, we didn't win the

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<v Speaker 1>Super Bowl because of my safety. Give me a break. Well,

0:14:30.280 --> 0:14:33.160
<v Speaker 1>the Saints take care of that middle the front and

0:14:33.240 --> 0:14:37.320
<v Speaker 1>take care of those foreigners. Saints lost an NFC Divisional

0:14:37.360 --> 0:14:40.960
<v Speaker 1>game because well, just because he didn't make one tackle,

0:14:41.320 --> 0:14:44.280
<v Speaker 1>they lost that game. Did you like, Yeah, it's true.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you like like the Byron Jones coverage on Deonte

0:14:46.840 --> 0:14:49.840
<v Speaker 1>Thompson last week and the deep ball down the left sideline,

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<v Speaker 1>the catch up speed breaking it up at the end

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<v Speaker 1>of the Yeah, I didn't was impressive play. It sounds

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<v Speaker 1>like it impressed you rom it did it? I mean

0:14:56.880 --> 0:15:01.000
<v Speaker 1>it showed his He used his size and use that

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<v Speaker 1>closing speed because he has great speed. So I think

0:15:05.000 --> 0:15:08.680
<v Speaker 1>there's potential there. I'm putting trust in Chris Richard knowing

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<v Speaker 1>what he needs to fit his scheme. So we'll see

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<v Speaker 1>what happens. But Bryan's talked about it. Look, you got

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<v Speaker 1>to figure out what he is at something. Yeah, forty

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<v Speaker 1>eight games, we're trying to figure that out. I think

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<v Speaker 1>that the trait that might get him in the most

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<v Speaker 1>trouble is how aggressive he is, like biting on stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Well I not bity, but how physical he plays at

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<v Speaker 1>the line. Because there were a couple of times last

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<v Speaker 1>week where the officials throw holding flags on him because

0:15:34.800 --> 0:15:37.800
<v Speaker 1>he's a jam jam jam. Okay, we're at seven yards.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm still trying. I thought one time he got called

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<v Speaker 1>for hands in the face because he was fighting, you know,

0:15:43.520 --> 0:15:46.120
<v Speaker 1>he was fighting with Michael Gallop down the sidelines and

0:15:46.240 --> 0:15:48.400
<v Speaker 1>Gallup was trying to shake him and he couldn't shake him.

0:15:48.680 --> 0:15:50.600
<v Speaker 1>And then the referee throws the flag and now the

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<v Speaker 1>ball went to the other side of the field, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, when what happened there? And I'm like, I

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<v Speaker 1>see the official, Oh, he's given it the defensive holding

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<v Speaker 1>sign and pointing, you know, towards Byron and I'm going, okay,

0:16:01.600 --> 0:16:04.760
<v Speaker 1>this is where Byron Jones could get in trouble. It

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<v Speaker 1>turns into he's struggling a little bit with his technique,

0:16:07.560 --> 0:16:09.280
<v Speaker 1>and now it's like, okay, I'm just gonna turn this

0:16:09.320 --> 0:16:11.680
<v Speaker 1>into a fist fight, you know, And you'd think of

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<v Speaker 1>Byron Jones, you don't think a fist fight, but he'll

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<v Speaker 1>play with some physicality on along the line of scrimmage.

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<v Speaker 1>I think of Byron Jones, I think physical. I mean,

0:16:18.760 --> 0:16:21.120
<v Speaker 1>you've seen some of his amazing hits. Yeah, that's what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying, I mean, you could, but I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>the one thing. It might be a strength of his

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<v Speaker 1>a trait. I like what Mickey was saying though about

0:16:28.040 --> 0:16:32.160
<v Speaker 1>And Mickey's absolutely right about questioning you know that move

0:16:32.360 --> 0:16:36.080
<v Speaker 1>because we're you know, let's see it and I and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm usually the I'm usually the okay, let's I'm me personally,

0:16:40.080 --> 0:16:42.840
<v Speaker 1>I am very surprised they moved him. I really really am.

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<v Speaker 1>But that just shows you the influence that Chris rap

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<v Speaker 1>Shard has on this group. Now, it's funny what you

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<v Speaker 1>said about being overly aggressive and Christopher Shard, what did

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<v Speaker 1>he say a couple of weeks ago about what he

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<v Speaker 1>likes his bigger corners to dogs disrupted the line of scrimmage. Yeah,

0:16:57.680 --> 0:16:59.200
<v Speaker 1>and that's Byron Jones can do that, So you gotta

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<v Speaker 1>harness it and follow your technique, right. Yeah, that's the

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<v Speaker 1>thing about it is, And they changed my understanding is

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<v Speaker 1>the technique they want the corners playing on which hip

0:17:08.359 --> 0:17:11.600
<v Speaker 1>which you have to play? Yeah, that was stut on

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<v Speaker 1>your point, and they thought that he would be more

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<v Speaker 1>conducive to playing that way than way they used to

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<v Speaker 1>play it. So, but I think that's what we'll see.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why I keep saying this training camp is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be one of the more interesting ones we've covered

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<v Speaker 1>in quite some time, because there's a bunch of stuff

0:17:27.800 --> 0:17:30.720
<v Speaker 1>where you think it's pretty good, but it's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>we'll see. Let me ask you this. You're gonna ask

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<v Speaker 1>the question, what do you mean the question about the

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<v Speaker 1>second they're about the corners? What if I think the

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<v Speaker 1>position depth is to me, okay, do you think is

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<v Speaker 1>the best position on the roster? Yeah, do you think

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<v Speaker 1>it's the best. Do you think the corner backs as

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<v Speaker 1>a group are the best? Is the best position on

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<v Speaker 1>this roster? Okay? Okay? Offensive line? I was I was

0:17:53.240 --> 0:17:57.040
<v Speaker 1>gonna say, give me, give me okay, Jack Martin and okay, okay,

0:17:58.840 --> 0:18:03.480
<v Speaker 1>give me Ezekiel and Ezekiel Elliott zeks. I know what

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<v Speaker 1>you're saying. Though. There's a lot of bodies there now,

0:18:05.640 --> 0:18:08.640
<v Speaker 1>and it's a lot of young talent, right, multiple talent. Well,

0:18:08.680 --> 0:18:10.639
<v Speaker 1>I think what's gonna happen is they're gonna end up

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<v Speaker 1>cutting somebody that can make a roster because I could

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<v Speaker 1>do Thomas or something like that, Marquez White, marquess him. No,

0:18:17.920 --> 0:18:20.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying cut. Let's not forget him. No, no,

0:18:20.760 --> 0:18:24.400
<v Speaker 1>I have talking about rookie. I haven't forgot I haven't

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<v Speaker 1>forgot him at all, because I think he's a perfect

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<v Speaker 1>fit for what and and actually it seems all length, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and it kind of feels like that they're they're kind

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<v Speaker 1>of pushing him into some roles and taking Jordan Lewis

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<v Speaker 1>in another direction. Jordan Lewis is like, guys, I ain't

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<v Speaker 1>going away. You might put me on the second team

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<v Speaker 1>at left corner, and you might put me in the slot,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm not going away. So that that, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of feel like it's the way that they're

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<v Speaker 1>playing Jordan Lewis. Jordan Lewis went from a what fourteen

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<v Speaker 1>game starter basically to being a guy that all of

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<v Speaker 1>a sudden, now is we're gonna move a safety. We're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna play him at right corner, and Jordan Lewis, you

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<v Speaker 1>get to play left corner and you're in a backup

0:19:05.680 --> 0:19:07.959
<v Speaker 1>And and by the way, Jordan Lewis, you don't even

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<v Speaker 1>get to play in the slot with the first unit.

0:19:10.119 --> 0:19:13.399
<v Speaker 1>Anthony Anthony Brown, We're gonna put you in the slot.

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<v Speaker 1>He's not he's not the prototypical size corner though, right.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean he might be one of the best players

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<v Speaker 1>they have. Richards says, he's the exception to the rule because,

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<v Speaker 1>like Tay said, he's a force. He's physical, he'll battle

0:19:23.440 --> 0:19:26.040
<v Speaker 1>you even though he's five ten, one seventy five. Oh

0:19:26.119 --> 0:19:29.040
<v Speaker 1>he did that Scholtz ball goes up and then side.

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<v Speaker 1>What does he do? He goes with him. One of

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<v Speaker 1>my favorite things I learned last week about the cornerbacks

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<v Speaker 1>and I guess the dbs in whole. They did a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of exercises at gymnastics gyms over the off season. Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>that was the first I had heard of it. That

0:19:42.520 --> 0:19:46.200
<v Speaker 1>every week they were doing different gymnastics training. Wow, double

0:19:46.240 --> 0:19:48.960
<v Speaker 1>flips on the high, double flips, whatever it takes. Knock

0:19:49.040 --> 0:19:52.040
<v Speaker 1>the ball from Leo Jones there in weeks six. But

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<v Speaker 1>I would love to see exactly what they're doing. But

0:19:54.440 --> 0:19:57.240
<v Speaker 1>apparently they all went together. You know, they're pretty close,

0:19:57.240 --> 0:19:59.600
<v Speaker 1>all these young dbs, they're very close. So you're talking

0:19:59.600 --> 0:20:02.920
<v Speaker 1>about the Jordan Lewis. Those guys think they're competitive. Yeah.

0:20:02.960 --> 0:20:05.760
<v Speaker 1>The thing it's funny, Rob brought up Byron Jones made

0:20:05.760 --> 0:20:09.399
<v Speaker 1>a gymnastics move of basically laying out and playing with

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<v Speaker 1>off hands. Yeah, so I think it's with the exception

0:20:14.440 --> 0:20:17.960
<v Speaker 1>of the offensive line. Who got to talk about no, no,

0:20:17.960 --> 0:20:20.760
<v Speaker 1>But I mean, but as far as the position depth,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's a really really good group. I do.

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<v Speaker 1>I like what they have with White and with Lewis

0:20:29.440 --> 0:20:32.119
<v Speaker 1>and with the Woozier. And you know, we'll see. Mickey's right,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm aggressive in the off season to do it. Yeah,

0:20:34.359 --> 0:20:36.400
<v Speaker 1>let's see, you know. I mean, Nicky's right. I think

0:20:36.400 --> 0:20:39.440
<v Speaker 1>they're gonna put somebody on the street or trade. Anthony

0:20:39.480 --> 0:20:41.720
<v Speaker 1>Brown could get back to where he played his fresh

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<v Speaker 1>is fresh freshman year rookie. I understood when you said it.

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<v Speaker 1>I did. It's like, yeah, it's freshman year junior Switzer

0:20:48.400 --> 0:20:52.439
<v Speaker 1>too much Yeah, over the years, but yeah, if he

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<v Speaker 1>can get back to doing that and you got a

0:20:55.240 --> 0:20:59.760
<v Speaker 1>five six man rotation there quarterback. Yeah, because they felt

0:20:59.800 --> 0:21:02.520
<v Speaker 1>like two year a year ago that that dB group

0:21:02.560 --> 0:21:08.399
<v Speaker 1>had reached the ceiling with Claiborne and Church, Wilcox, Scandrick, Scandrick.

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<v Speaker 1>Now it's these rookie second year guys and maybe they

0:21:11.840 --> 0:21:13.800
<v Speaker 1>make a big jump to show they were hard pressed

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<v Speaker 1>to find four guys a couple of years ago to

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<v Speaker 1>play corner. And you would like to have five for sure,

0:21:20.359 --> 0:21:22.440
<v Speaker 1>and they were hard pressed to put that fourth one

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<v Speaker 1>on the road. Ask you this the four guys real quick,

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<v Speaker 1>the four guys. You gotta go to break, Okay, goa

0:21:26.560 --> 0:21:28.920
<v Speaker 1>to break? No, no, no. Ask you a question. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I was seeze it. I was wondering. Okay, when you

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<v Speaker 1>come back, when you come back, I want you to ask.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna ask a question about which one of the

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<v Speaker 1>four guys would you have liked to have kept for

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<v Speaker 1>It's gonna be hot. Yes, we were just talking about

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<v Speaker 1>the weather out here. Of course we have the indoor

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<v Speaker 1>at Ford Center, but I think they're gonna stay outside

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<v Speaker 1>at least for tomorrow. Yeah, it's gonna give warm out there,

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<v Speaker 1>all right. So Brian asked a question before we get

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<v Speaker 1>to the offense, because I want to talk about Zach Martin.

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<v Speaker 1>Terrence Williams we have to Tavon Austin, so before we

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<v Speaker 1>get there, I just was curious if there's anybody of

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<v Speaker 1>the corners that you would have liked to have had

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<v Speaker 1>back for this current group, or none at all comfortable

0:24:31.240 --> 0:24:32.760
<v Speaker 1>with what the group the way it is, the way

0:24:32.760 --> 0:24:35.320
<v Speaker 1>you liked the group. I mean with somebody. Could Mo

0:24:35.480 --> 0:24:37.959
<v Speaker 1>Claiborne been a factor of the way they're now playing

0:24:38.640 --> 0:24:41.800
<v Speaker 1>Brandon Carr or like you said, none of these guys.

0:24:43.440 --> 0:24:45.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm okay. They did the right thing. I'm okay with

0:24:45.600 --> 0:24:48.919
<v Speaker 1>this Corner group for me as far as DBS go.

0:24:49.160 --> 0:24:51.640
<v Speaker 1>I mentioned it last week. Barry Church when he was here,

0:24:52.160 --> 0:24:55.160
<v Speaker 1>was a stabilizing presence at safety. Yeah, but I think

0:24:55.160 --> 0:24:57.480
<v Speaker 1>they've we mentioned the number of guys they got at Corner,

0:24:57.560 --> 0:25:00.359
<v Speaker 1>young guys. I think a Woozier's poised to take a

0:25:00.359 --> 0:25:02.639
<v Speaker 1>step this year if he can stay healthy. I like

0:25:02.680 --> 0:25:04.720
<v Speaker 1>what they've done at call. So they made the right move. Then,

0:25:04.960 --> 0:25:07.760
<v Speaker 1>to everybody out there, it was kind of like it

0:25:07.840 --> 0:25:10.959
<v Speaker 1>was the gnashing of teeth that Okay, well, oh guy,

0:25:10.960 --> 0:25:12.680
<v Speaker 1>they're getting rid of all these guys. You can't play

0:25:12.680 --> 0:25:16.480
<v Speaker 1>with young corners. So they actually that was a good

0:25:16.480 --> 0:25:20.840
<v Speaker 1>move by the front office. Financial standpoint, also sure, because

0:25:21.240 --> 0:25:24.199
<v Speaker 1>I'm with you on maybe Clayborne. But he got a

0:25:24.200 --> 0:25:28.400
<v Speaker 1>little bit of money from the Jets. Jets right right, Yeah, um,

0:25:28.960 --> 0:25:31.240
<v Speaker 1>he got some good money. And you're sitting there going, well,

0:25:31.800 --> 0:25:34.400
<v Speaker 1>I'd like to see him. They have that speed there,

0:25:34.480 --> 0:25:38.720
<v Speaker 1>but he couldn't stay healthy. As for the rest of it, Yeah,

0:25:38.760 --> 0:25:42.640
<v Speaker 1>it's too bad that these guys didn't stay healthy last

0:25:42.680 --> 0:25:44.920
<v Speaker 1>year because I think you would have seen the takeover

0:25:45.440 --> 0:25:48.320
<v Speaker 1>at a greater pace than what we did. Well, this

0:25:48.400 --> 0:25:51.840
<v Speaker 1>is a good segue because obviously those guys they've left,

0:25:51.880 --> 0:25:54.000
<v Speaker 1>and it happens every year and a large part of

0:25:54.000 --> 0:25:56.520
<v Speaker 1>it is due to contracts. And now we're here. Was

0:25:56.680 --> 0:25:59.679
<v Speaker 1>Zach Martin everon thought that contract would get figured out

0:25:59.680 --> 0:26:03.919
<v Speaker 1>a little bit sooner, but things happen. Time hands passed.

0:26:03.920 --> 0:26:06.920
<v Speaker 1>We are close to June and Zach Martin still doesn't

0:26:06.960 --> 0:26:09.840
<v Speaker 1>have his long term deal. We all expect it to happen,

0:26:09.960 --> 0:26:12.280
<v Speaker 1>but until then, he's here working out he's just not

0:26:12.320 --> 0:26:19.200
<v Speaker 1>participating in OTAs right and in the meantime, and it's

0:26:19.800 --> 0:26:21.760
<v Speaker 1>got to get it done. You just gotta get it done.

0:26:21.960 --> 0:26:24.760
<v Speaker 1>I think that to me, this is this is one

0:26:24.800 --> 0:26:26.960
<v Speaker 1>of those deals where and you guys, correct me if

0:26:27.040 --> 0:26:29.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm wrong here, but this is just my thought about it.

0:26:29.920 --> 0:26:33.800
<v Speaker 1>It's a position that we've seen very few. We've seen

0:26:34.040 --> 0:26:37.080
<v Speaker 1>the position go up through the years. I mean the

0:26:37.160 --> 0:26:39.480
<v Speaker 1>last couple of years, people have stepped up to pay

0:26:39.480 --> 0:26:42.359
<v Speaker 1>their guards as much as tackle has always been a

0:26:42.359 --> 0:26:45.280
<v Speaker 1>position you paid. Wide receiver has been a position you paid,

0:26:46.160 --> 0:26:49.199
<v Speaker 1>Cornerback has been a position you paid. Quarterbacks a position

0:26:49.200 --> 0:26:51.760
<v Speaker 1>you're played. I think this is new to teams. I

0:26:51.760 --> 0:26:53.760
<v Speaker 1>think these is new to teams that having to play,

0:26:53.880 --> 0:26:56.080
<v Speaker 1>having to pay that much haven't much for me for

0:26:56.160 --> 0:26:58.280
<v Speaker 1>a guard. And it's not that they don't want to

0:26:58.320 --> 0:27:01.400
<v Speaker 1>do it, but I think they're in a situation where

0:27:01.440 --> 0:27:05.399
<v Speaker 1>they're thinking, Okay, what is the right amount, what's not

0:27:05.480 --> 0:27:08.680
<v Speaker 1>what's too high, what's too low. I think you're always

0:27:08.720 --> 0:27:12.080
<v Speaker 1>comfortable with the other positions I mentioned, the tackles, the quarterbacks,

0:27:12.320 --> 0:27:15.600
<v Speaker 1>the cornerbacks. I think that you. I think your team's

0:27:15.720 --> 0:27:18.560
<v Speaker 1>front offices are comfortable with those positions. Guards a little

0:27:18.560 --> 0:27:21.600
<v Speaker 1>bit different. Cat and I and you don't want to.

0:27:21.680 --> 0:27:24.439
<v Speaker 1>You don't want to. You don't want to short change

0:27:25.080 --> 0:27:27.480
<v Speaker 1>an all Pro player. And of course he's gonna sit

0:27:27.520 --> 0:27:28.919
<v Speaker 1>there and say, you know what, I'm one of the

0:27:28.920 --> 0:27:32.199
<v Speaker 1>better players you're on your team. I deserve just as

0:27:32.280 --> 0:27:35.040
<v Speaker 1>much money as this guy or this guy or this guy.

0:27:35.119 --> 0:27:37.320
<v Speaker 1>So I think that's why the Cowboys are having a

0:27:37.320 --> 0:27:39.439
<v Speaker 1>little bit of problem right now. It's not something that

0:27:39.480 --> 0:27:41.200
<v Speaker 1>they don't want to do or they're trying to hold

0:27:41.200 --> 0:27:44.600
<v Speaker 1>it up, but they're trying to figure out what exactly

0:27:44.880 --> 0:27:47.880
<v Speaker 1>the market is for an All Pro guard to make

0:27:47.920 --> 0:27:50.920
<v Speaker 1>sure that he's compensated like the All Pro that he is.

0:27:51.119 --> 0:27:54.480
<v Speaker 1>I wonder if the guy is Norvelle and Jacksonville, Yeah,

0:27:54.520 --> 0:27:57.280
<v Speaker 1>I wonder how much maybe he reset things because see

0:27:57.280 --> 0:28:00.200
<v Speaker 1>that's one of those things that you do. Yeah, that's

0:28:00.960 --> 0:28:03.159
<v Speaker 1>exactly I mean. Now, all of a sudden, he's I

0:28:03.160 --> 0:28:05.520
<v Speaker 1>think he's the highest paid guard now and Zack Martin's

0:28:05.520 --> 0:28:08.480
<v Speaker 1>a four time Pro Bowl, All Pro gay. So yeah,

0:28:08.480 --> 0:28:11.520
<v Speaker 1>so I think I think probably what they're trying to do,

0:28:11.560 --> 0:28:15.680
<v Speaker 1>because this is not about this year or next year.

0:28:15.760 --> 0:28:19.680
<v Speaker 1>It's down the road absolute and I bet what they're

0:28:19.720 --> 0:28:24.199
<v Speaker 1>trying to do is guarantee him more money at and

0:28:24.320 --> 0:28:27.560
<v Speaker 1>the total package it's less. It's like, you're gonna get

0:28:27.600 --> 0:28:30.280
<v Speaker 1>this right now, give us a break on what it's

0:28:30.320 --> 0:28:32.919
<v Speaker 1>going to cost you In three years when I'm paying

0:28:33.080 --> 0:28:36.240
<v Speaker 1>a quarterback and I got to make a decision on Zeke.

0:28:37.600 --> 0:28:39.800
<v Speaker 1>At some point, I've got to pay a wide receiver.

0:28:40.360 --> 0:28:43.200
<v Speaker 1>You know this, this this little thing ain't gonna last

0:28:43.240 --> 0:28:47.920
<v Speaker 1>for long. Well, not only receiver by committee, but you

0:28:47.960 --> 0:28:51.280
<v Speaker 1>know Alan Hearn's two year deal and he's not making

0:28:51.320 --> 0:28:54.680
<v Speaker 1>that much money. You drafted Michael Gallup. Yeah, and to

0:28:54.800 --> 0:28:56.720
<v Speaker 1>turn out to be something really good for you. Well,

0:28:56.760 --> 0:28:58.480
<v Speaker 1>and in three or four years, you're gonna have to

0:28:58.520 --> 0:29:01.280
<v Speaker 1>pay him, right if he does. So you gotta watch

0:29:01.360 --> 0:29:04.440
<v Speaker 1>how you budget your salary cap money. It's not their money,

0:29:04.440 --> 0:29:07.280
<v Speaker 1>it's the salary cap money. I'm sure they'd love to pay,

0:29:07.960 --> 0:29:11.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, Zach Martin all, you know, whatever, But you

0:29:11.720 --> 0:29:14.920
<v Speaker 1>gotta watch how you budget down down the road. You

0:29:15.000 --> 0:29:17.040
<v Speaker 1>gotta next year, you got to figure out what what

0:29:17.600 --> 0:29:19.760
<v Speaker 1>if Lawrence has another Pro Bowl season, what are you

0:29:19.800 --> 0:29:22.360
<v Speaker 1>gonna do with him? Yeah, you know it's a long

0:29:22.520 --> 0:29:25.440
<v Speaker 1>term deal for him too, now, So they got to

0:29:25.480 --> 0:29:28.240
<v Speaker 1>be careful. And and I think you're right about guard.

0:29:28.360 --> 0:29:32.440
<v Speaker 1>You sitting there going, God, it's a guard, but the

0:29:32.520 --> 0:29:37.000
<v Speaker 1>best one in the league. Right. But See, that's why

0:29:37.040 --> 0:29:39.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't think people have a real handle on that.

0:29:39.320 --> 0:29:42.880
<v Speaker 1>The example about the kid that got signed at Jacksonville. Yeah,

0:29:42.960 --> 0:29:45.239
<v Speaker 1>you know that, that's not having a handle on And

0:29:45.280 --> 0:29:49.440
<v Speaker 1>they had so much money, Yeah right, they had They

0:29:49.440 --> 0:29:52.280
<v Speaker 1>did because they were like seventy million under the cap,

0:29:52.360 --> 0:29:56.320
<v Speaker 1>so they could spend and it's like, okay, well, you know,

0:29:56.560 --> 0:29:58.720
<v Speaker 1>well's never gonna run dry. We may be a little

0:29:58.720 --> 0:30:02.640
<v Speaker 1>spoiled too, because we've seen Tyren Smith, Travis Frederick, even

0:30:02.720 --> 0:30:05.440
<v Speaker 1>Lale Collins last year to get done early, like with

0:30:06.000 --> 0:30:07.560
<v Speaker 1>two years left on there deal. I think we all

0:30:07.640 --> 0:30:09.600
<v Speaker 1>kind of thought, oh, Zach will get done last summer.

0:30:10.400 --> 0:30:12.760
<v Speaker 1>It's gonna get done, I think, But it's it's taken

0:30:12.800 --> 0:30:16.680
<v Speaker 1>longer than we thought. It depends what they're asking for. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, Well,

0:30:16.840 --> 0:30:18.480
<v Speaker 1>a lot of fans have a lot of questions, and

0:30:18.520 --> 0:30:21.560
<v Speaker 1>you guys are the experts here, so everyone has heard

0:30:21.600 --> 0:30:23.880
<v Speaker 1>about what's happened to Terrence Williams. He was not out

0:30:23.920 --> 0:30:27.080
<v Speaker 1>there last week, not only because of what's going on,

0:30:27.360 --> 0:30:29.720
<v Speaker 1>mainly because of his foot and the rehab there, and

0:30:29.760 --> 0:30:32.239
<v Speaker 1>we all expected he wouldn't be out there. Well he

0:30:32.320 --> 0:30:35.880
<v Speaker 1>didn't practice, right, didn't practice. Yeah, that's what I meant.

0:30:36.000 --> 0:30:38.560
<v Speaker 1>He was out there. That's what I'm when I'm saying

0:30:38.560 --> 0:30:41.400
<v Speaker 1>out there, I'm mainly meaning that they're on the field participating.

0:30:42.320 --> 0:30:46.200
<v Speaker 1>Terrence Williams, does he have one foot at the door?

0:30:46.240 --> 0:30:48.320
<v Speaker 1>What's going to happen with this? I hate to ask

0:30:48.440 --> 0:30:52.040
<v Speaker 1>that and put anyone's job on the line, but we're just, Oh,

0:30:52.080 --> 0:30:54.080
<v Speaker 1>he put it on the line. That's not true, Mickey,

0:30:54.120 --> 0:30:56.840
<v Speaker 1>you're right, You're right. And so there's just a lot

0:30:56.840 --> 0:31:00.239
<v Speaker 1>of speculation of his future on this team and kind

0:31:00.240 --> 0:31:04.600
<v Speaker 1>of getting your guys's thoughts and understanding of it. Well,

0:31:05.400 --> 0:31:08.880
<v Speaker 1>we don't know what's going to happen. Legally, Yeah, we

0:31:08.960 --> 0:31:12.600
<v Speaker 1>know that the NFL can can take action against a

0:31:12.680 --> 0:31:16.280
<v Speaker 1>player even if it's not even if he's not charged.

0:31:16.320 --> 0:31:17.720
<v Speaker 1>I mean we saw that with Zeke or if it's

0:31:17.720 --> 0:31:20.840
<v Speaker 1>not a serious matter. I think we're talking about misdemeanors here,

0:31:20.840 --> 0:31:23.320
<v Speaker 1>I believe with what we've seen in the reports, with

0:31:23.360 --> 0:31:29.400
<v Speaker 1>police reports, with Terrence in the public intoxication. Yeah, I

0:31:29.440 --> 0:31:32.480
<v Speaker 1>don't know. I think this receiver group's got to shake

0:31:32.480 --> 0:31:34.800
<v Speaker 1>itself out a little bit before you start talking about

0:31:35.200 --> 0:31:38.800
<v Speaker 1>moving on from him. I still think you've got to

0:31:38.800 --> 0:31:41.320
<v Speaker 1>see some guys emerge. And I'm talking about Alan Hearnson.

0:31:41.360 --> 0:31:44.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about Michael Gallup, and you know what you

0:31:45.040 --> 0:31:47.920
<v Speaker 1>have in Terrence, and he's a guy that's played with DAK.

0:31:48.040 --> 0:31:50.080
<v Speaker 1>He hasn't been a high production guy, but he has

0:31:50.080 --> 0:31:51.640
<v Speaker 1>helped you in certain games. He's helped you in the

0:31:51.720 --> 0:31:56.800
<v Speaker 1>running game. I wouldn't jump there yet, but obviously they've

0:31:56.800 --> 0:31:59.080
<v Speaker 1>brought in a lot of competition and it certainly would

0:31:59.120 --> 0:32:01.960
<v Speaker 1>help him to be on the field competing. Well. Unfortunately,

0:32:02.040 --> 0:32:04.960
<v Speaker 1>he's hurt, so he's in double jeopardy. Not only the

0:32:05.080 --> 0:32:08.520
<v Speaker 1>legal thing hanging over, but he's recovering from surgery to

0:32:08.600 --> 0:32:13.200
<v Speaker 1>repair of fractured fifth METATARSL. So he wouldn't be out there,

0:32:13.200 --> 0:32:14.959
<v Speaker 1>and the idea was not to have him out there

0:32:15.080 --> 0:32:20.520
<v Speaker 1>till training camp, but he didn't do him himself any favors. Now, again,

0:32:21.000 --> 0:32:23.640
<v Speaker 1>it may come down to what the league does, because

0:32:23.680 --> 0:32:27.080
<v Speaker 1>if the league wants to punish him, then the guarantee

0:32:27.080 --> 0:32:30.920
<v Speaker 1>goes base salary this year, three and a half million disappears, right,

0:32:31.160 --> 0:32:33.400
<v Speaker 1>and then it's like, oh, well, it's not going to

0:32:33.480 --> 0:32:36.800
<v Speaker 1>cost us that much to absorb the rest of his

0:32:36.880 --> 0:32:41.720
<v Speaker 1>pro rated signing bonus. So at this point, you know,

0:32:41.760 --> 0:32:44.560
<v Speaker 1>everybody's waving their liberal flag. I'll get rid of the

0:32:44.600 --> 0:32:47.720
<v Speaker 1>guy and we don't need him. Well, it would cost

0:32:47.760 --> 0:32:50.440
<v Speaker 1>you three and a half million because he's already on

0:32:50.520 --> 0:32:53.880
<v Speaker 1>the books for a guaranteed salary. So you have to

0:32:53.920 --> 0:32:55.920
<v Speaker 1>be careful, and you would like to write it out

0:32:55.960 --> 0:32:59.680
<v Speaker 1>and have one person here on the field that actually

0:33:00.040 --> 0:33:01.840
<v Speaker 1>la a lot. Last year, even though he didn't have

0:33:01.840 --> 0:33:04.880
<v Speaker 1>any touchdowns, he still had fifty three catches. You know,

0:33:04.960 --> 0:33:07.720
<v Speaker 1>you just eliminated one hundred and thirty two catches from

0:33:07.760 --> 0:33:11.240
<v Speaker 1>your team. Would Witton and dead now I add fifty

0:33:11.320 --> 0:33:13.560
<v Speaker 1>three to that, it would just be Beasley. He'd be

0:33:13.560 --> 0:33:16.240
<v Speaker 1>the only guy leafed over. I think now Noah Brown,

0:33:16.400 --> 0:33:19.160
<v Speaker 1>and look at it as it is right now, Beasley

0:33:19.240 --> 0:33:21.640
<v Speaker 1>is the only guy on this team that's caught more

0:33:21.680 --> 0:33:26.320
<v Speaker 1>than sixty four catches in a season. Hearns one year

0:33:26.320 --> 0:33:30.040
<v Speaker 1>in Jacksonville sixty four. I said more, yeah, yeah, twenty

0:33:30.040 --> 0:33:31.640
<v Speaker 1>four times in the league. And I think at the

0:33:31.680 --> 0:33:35.720
<v Speaker 1>last three years we've had situations where players have conduct

0:33:35.800 --> 0:33:40.960
<v Speaker 1>detrimental policy whatever you want to say, only four times

0:33:41.200 --> 0:33:44.440
<v Speaker 1>have the player been released. I means twenty other players

0:33:44.440 --> 0:33:47.000
<v Speaker 1>with the similar type of things that have happened to

0:33:47.120 --> 0:33:51.160
<v Speaker 1>Terrence Williams still stayed on the team. So I don't

0:33:51.160 --> 0:33:54.040
<v Speaker 1>think they're gonna get him. I just don't write. You

0:33:54.040 --> 0:33:56.320
<v Speaker 1>look at somebody like Demontre Moore and what followed him

0:33:56.360 --> 0:34:01.120
<v Speaker 1>from Seattle's. Yeah, but players in this situation, twenty of

0:34:01.160 --> 0:34:04.760
<v Speaker 1>the twenty four were brought back only four times as

0:34:04.800 --> 0:34:07.680
<v Speaker 1>a team cut a player like this. I you've all

0:34:07.720 --> 0:34:12.480
<v Speaker 1>made great points. It's catches, it's it's experience, it's it's

0:34:12.520 --> 0:34:15.680
<v Speaker 1>familiarity with the player. Yeah that you know what what

0:34:15.920 --> 0:34:19.120
<v Speaker 1>happened last year at this time, if you remember as well,

0:34:19.160 --> 0:34:23.040
<v Speaker 1>with Damian Wilson and his thing with a gun in

0:34:23.080 --> 0:34:26.240
<v Speaker 1>a parking lot of or dispute and all that, Damian

0:34:26.320 --> 0:34:29.400
<v Speaker 1>Wilson was still here, you know. I mean there's things

0:34:29.400 --> 0:34:32.560
<v Speaker 1>that they will tolerate. And I think this is a

0:34:32.600 --> 0:34:36.279
<v Speaker 1>situation where he made a mistake and you know, he's

0:34:37.200 --> 0:34:39.359
<v Speaker 1>he's going to uh, he's going to pay for it,

0:34:39.400 --> 0:34:42.120
<v Speaker 1>not only having to get his car fixed, but he's

0:34:42.160 --> 0:34:43.839
<v Speaker 1>also going to pay for it, you know a little

0:34:43.880 --> 0:34:46.279
<v Speaker 1>bit personally, you know, with himself. I mean, he's got

0:34:46.280 --> 0:34:48.320
<v Speaker 1>to live with that now. But I think the team

0:34:48.400 --> 0:34:50.400
<v Speaker 1>keeps him around. I don't. I don't see them getting

0:34:50.480 --> 0:34:52.920
<v Speaker 1>rid of him. I see them getting him healthy, getting

0:34:52.960 --> 0:34:54.880
<v Speaker 1>him back on the field and then let him compete,

0:34:55.040 --> 0:34:58.240
<v Speaker 1>as Rob says, and let them shake this receiver thing out.

0:34:58.040 --> 0:35:00.560
<v Speaker 1>That might be the position right there. When we talk

0:35:00.600 --> 0:35:03.400
<v Speaker 1>about the strength of a team, that one might be

0:35:03.440 --> 0:35:06.719
<v Speaker 1>the weakness of this team. It's unproven. When it's all

0:35:06.719 --> 0:35:08.640
<v Speaker 1>said and done. We just need don't need to be

0:35:08.719 --> 0:35:12.759
<v Speaker 1>so righteous. Yeah, right off the bat, before we even know.

0:35:13.640 --> 0:35:17.160
<v Speaker 1>I mean we've heard three different stories on well, the

0:35:17.160 --> 0:35:19.480
<v Speaker 1>worst thing that happened is he shouldn't have him and

0:35:19.480 --> 0:35:22.520
<v Speaker 1>his agent should have made a statement right once. Then

0:35:22.560 --> 0:35:25.239
<v Speaker 1>once all that police the video came out. That was

0:35:25.360 --> 0:35:28.480
<v Speaker 1>very embarrassing. Yeah, that's something they can't take back. Oh

0:35:28.520 --> 0:35:30.560
<v Speaker 1>I didn't do this. I didn't do this. I know.

0:35:30.760 --> 0:35:33.279
<v Speaker 1>Well oh wait wait flipping over the front of your

0:35:33.280 --> 0:35:35.319
<v Speaker 1>bike here, what are you doing there? You didn't talk

0:35:35.360 --> 0:35:39.440
<v Speaker 1>about that, did you? You know? So that's yeah, this

0:35:39.520 --> 0:35:41.879
<v Speaker 1>is this is something you know that needs to be worked.

0:35:41.920 --> 0:35:43.880
<v Speaker 1>I mean he was very he was very polite to

0:35:43.880 --> 0:35:46.279
<v Speaker 1>the police officer. The police officer very polite to him.

0:35:46.320 --> 0:35:48.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean you could see all those things handle the

0:35:48.600 --> 0:35:50.440
<v Speaker 1>right way. But they didn't need to make a statement.

0:35:50.680 --> 0:35:52.400
<v Speaker 1>They just did not need to make that. And he

0:35:52.520 --> 0:35:54.439
<v Speaker 1>is let's gotta point this out. He's a guy they've

0:35:54.480 --> 0:35:57.520
<v Speaker 1>never had a problem with off the field. So you know,

0:35:57.680 --> 0:36:01.360
<v Speaker 1>it's like you said, it's a mistake. Fortunate except for

0:36:01.480 --> 0:36:04.439
<v Speaker 1>running forty yard dashes in the parking lot at three

0:36:04.440 --> 0:36:07.000
<v Speaker 1>in the morning. What do you remember that one? Nope,

0:36:07.840 --> 0:36:12.319
<v Speaker 1>there was another another one. Let me tell you what.

0:36:12.360 --> 0:36:14.320
<v Speaker 1>There was a bar in Dallas that somebody bet me

0:36:14.320 --> 0:36:16.359
<v Speaker 1>I couldn't hit a five iron over a parking lot,

0:36:16.440 --> 0:36:19.719
<v Speaker 1>over a building, and I did it, And that sometimes

0:36:19.719 --> 0:36:22.640
<v Speaker 1>you do forty yards. Sometimes you do forty yard dashes

0:36:22.680 --> 0:36:26.000
<v Speaker 1>in the uh. You get challenged, you're challenged, and sometimes

0:36:26.000 --> 0:36:28.680
<v Speaker 1>you do it. So like in training camp at the

0:36:28.719 --> 0:36:32.160
<v Speaker 1>old Cedar Door in Austin when we were hitting seven

0:36:32.200 --> 0:36:36.400
<v Speaker 1>ironers into from the gravel parking lot, hitting seven irons

0:36:36.520 --> 0:36:39.880
<v Speaker 1>into the power plant. Yeah, well I was bet. I

0:36:39.960 --> 0:36:41.880
<v Speaker 1>was bet I couldn't hit it over a building. We

0:36:41.920 --> 0:36:43.759
<v Speaker 1>got it over the fence. I don't know how far

0:36:43.800 --> 0:36:46.960
<v Speaker 1>it went really back back in all right, talking about

0:36:47.000 --> 0:36:49.680
<v Speaker 1>speed though, tavon Austin. Of course, it run's curious of

0:36:49.719 --> 0:36:51.759
<v Speaker 1>what he's going to end up really being. You have

0:36:51.800 --> 0:36:55.359
<v Speaker 1>this hybrid receiver running back out there, and he calls

0:36:55.400 --> 0:36:59.040
<v Speaker 1>himself he said, I'm just a playmaker, it's all he is. True,

0:36:59.120 --> 0:37:01.839
<v Speaker 1>He's just here to make so hopefully he'll he'll make

0:37:01.880 --> 0:37:05.960
<v Speaker 1>them for you. Mick. He can run quickly, He's very quick,

0:37:06.360 --> 0:37:09.759
<v Speaker 1>and I think it gives him a dangerous person for

0:37:09.880 --> 0:37:16.680
<v Speaker 1>punt returns. And I raised the prospect of returning kickoffs

0:37:16.680 --> 0:37:18.239
<v Speaker 1>with him and he goes, well, you know, I really

0:37:18.239 --> 0:37:22.040
<v Speaker 1>haven't done that much, right, And I said yeah, But

0:37:22.600 --> 0:37:25.200
<v Speaker 1>just like that, he goes, I'm sure my name's gonna

0:37:25.239 --> 0:37:27.960
<v Speaker 1>come up. And all I can think of is with

0:37:28.080 --> 0:37:33.239
<v Speaker 1>the new kickoff return rules, somebody actually kicks it to him,

0:37:33.719 --> 0:37:38.560
<v Speaker 1>and you've got all that open field. I probably shouldn't

0:37:38.600 --> 0:37:40.640
<v Speaker 1>have said it to Jason the other day, and I said, yeah,

0:37:40.719 --> 0:37:43.720
<v Speaker 1>sort of like the did I go the Kansas City

0:37:43.760 --> 0:37:45.919
<v Speaker 1>game at the end of the half when you brought

0:37:45.960 --> 0:37:48.360
<v Speaker 1>up the Hill Mary when Mickey no, it was a

0:37:48.480 --> 0:37:51.320
<v Speaker 1>dump off that ended up at Hill Mary, right, But

0:37:51.320 --> 0:37:53.960
<v Speaker 1>but no, just think of a fast guy like that

0:37:54.200 --> 0:37:56.880
<v Speaker 1>in the middle of the field when you don't have

0:37:56.920 --> 0:37:59.160
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people around him. And now it's almost

0:37:59.160 --> 0:38:02.000
<v Speaker 1>a video game and there's no running start anymore. There's

0:38:02.040 --> 0:38:06.880
<v Speaker 1>no running start. You can't drop your guys back to block.

0:38:07.400 --> 0:38:10.560
<v Speaker 1>You got to stay in that area, so there's a

0:38:10.600 --> 0:38:13.279
<v Speaker 1>lot of space if you've got a speedy, shifty guy.

0:38:13.680 --> 0:38:16.880
<v Speaker 1>I think there's seven, sorry, seven new kickoff rules that

0:38:16.960 --> 0:38:22.400
<v Speaker 1>will impact if they're trying to prevent collisions. I think

0:38:22.440 --> 0:38:24.839
<v Speaker 1>they've done a bad job with this rule. I think

0:38:24.920 --> 0:38:28.760
<v Speaker 1>special teams coaches are going to figure this out about skykicking,

0:38:28.840 --> 0:38:32.439
<v Speaker 1>pooge kicking. They don't have extra blockers in the back. Now,

0:38:32.480 --> 0:38:35.359
<v Speaker 1>all you have to do is put fast guys up

0:38:35.400 --> 0:38:38.160
<v Speaker 1>front on your cover team. You just play balance. But

0:38:38.200 --> 0:38:40.520
<v Speaker 1>if you win that initial block where you have the

0:38:40.560 --> 0:38:43.880
<v Speaker 1>stationary blockers in that area, now you're running to the football.

0:38:43.920 --> 0:38:46.600
<v Speaker 1>They don't have enough guys to block you back there wedge,

0:38:46.920 --> 0:38:48.600
<v Speaker 1>So all of a sudden, you're gonna see people dumping

0:38:48.640 --> 0:38:51.040
<v Speaker 1>the football. There's gonna be more collisions in this game.

0:38:51.400 --> 0:38:55.120
<v Speaker 1>People trying to stop them from from bringing the ball

0:38:55.160 --> 0:38:57.560
<v Speaker 1>out past. Yeah, you're going to do one of two things.

0:38:57.640 --> 0:39:00.200
<v Speaker 1>Because the two guys you only can have three back there,

0:39:00.320 --> 0:39:03.360
<v Speaker 1>right right, So two of them aren't gonna be linebackers

0:39:03.520 --> 0:39:06.680
<v Speaker 1>or defensive linemen that can block. It's gonna have to

0:39:06.680 --> 0:39:09.520
<v Speaker 1>be somebody that catches the ball. And if you only

0:39:09.520 --> 0:39:14.200
<v Speaker 1>can have one guy back then, how liked the field? Yeah,

0:39:14.560 --> 0:39:16.960
<v Speaker 1>and you're gonna start hitting the ball to the ten

0:39:17.040 --> 0:39:19.560
<v Speaker 1>yard line on the side. There's gonna be more squib kicks,

0:39:19.560 --> 0:39:21.600
<v Speaker 1>there's gonna be more pooch kicks, there's gonna be more

0:39:21.600 --> 0:39:24.439
<v Speaker 1>trying to be disruptive with the football. They're gonna they're

0:39:24.480 --> 0:39:27.279
<v Speaker 1>they're gonna get the total opposite of safety here. There's

0:39:27.320 --> 0:39:30.920
<v Speaker 1>gonna be a ton of collisions, directional kicking. Try and

0:39:31.000 --> 0:39:33.640
<v Speaker 1>get guys pinned into a corner, get them on the

0:39:33.680 --> 0:39:36.120
<v Speaker 1>tackle them on the ten, twelve yard line and let

0:39:36.160 --> 0:39:38.279
<v Speaker 1>them start from there. And they think that's the bad rule.

0:39:38.400 --> 0:39:39.759
<v Speaker 1>You think that instead of just trying to go for

0:39:39.840 --> 0:39:42.160
<v Speaker 1>more tapas. Absolutely, because you can pin them deep like that.

0:39:42.320 --> 0:39:44.399
<v Speaker 1>Just now, there's gonna be more collisions or you just

0:39:44.400 --> 0:39:47.920
<v Speaker 1>don't get to the ball. Yeah. Today, And if it

0:39:48.040 --> 0:39:50.719
<v Speaker 1>is about safety, right because NFL owners, the report is

0:39:50.880 --> 0:39:53.960
<v Speaker 1>owners were told concussions are five times is likely to

0:39:53.960 --> 0:39:57.520
<v Speaker 1>occur on kickoff returns. So, but it's a collision game.

0:39:57.640 --> 0:40:00.360
<v Speaker 1>But if you're a kickoff, if you're on the kickoff team,

0:40:00.400 --> 0:40:02.719
<v Speaker 1>you don't get a run up anymore. Right, you gotta

0:40:02.760 --> 0:40:04.319
<v Speaker 1>be one yard But all you have to do is

0:40:04.320 --> 0:40:06.879
<v Speaker 1>well and they and they're not allowed to drop. So

0:40:07.120 --> 0:40:08.920
<v Speaker 1>right the way it is, so you're gonna have a

0:40:08.960 --> 0:40:11.279
<v Speaker 1>lot of collisions up front. Up front. Is it going

0:40:11.320 --> 0:40:15.240
<v Speaker 1>to create about forty yards of space? Absolutely? And who's

0:40:15.360 --> 0:40:17.680
<v Speaker 1>keeping somebody from dumping the ball and letting it just

0:40:17.760 --> 0:40:22.040
<v Speaker 1>bounce around down there? And again putting putting defensive backs

0:40:22.080 --> 0:40:24.680
<v Speaker 1>on your kickoff team, Guys that can run, Guys that

0:40:24.680 --> 0:40:27.600
<v Speaker 1>can avoid, Guys that can make make the plaque that

0:40:27.680 --> 0:40:30.240
<v Speaker 1>can cover the kick. I think Jason said it best

0:40:30.280 --> 0:40:32.279
<v Speaker 1>in the press conference when he said, when you make

0:40:32.400 --> 0:40:36.200
<v Speaker 1>rules like this, there's always unintended consequences. Oh yeah, get ready,

0:40:36.320 --> 0:40:38.640
<v Speaker 1>you didn't did you think it all the way through?

0:40:38.920 --> 0:40:41.279
<v Speaker 1>Because the coaches they will figure it out how to

0:40:41.320 --> 0:40:44.480
<v Speaker 1>take advantage. They are figuring out right now. Yes, absolutely, Well,

0:40:44.480 --> 0:40:46.640
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<v Speaker 1>just awful, all right, Lebron James, yeah, we still got him,

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<v Speaker 1>So how many shots? How many shots did uh? I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to get you the Twitter poll? Do you?

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<v Speaker 1>You just don't want shots at Harden put up last

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<v Speaker 1>night like twenty nine seven for twenty nine or something ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. We already got into it a little bit,

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<v Speaker 1>the receivers, but your pole falls along those lines and

0:44:16.880 --> 0:44:19.920
<v Speaker 1>Mickey hinted the fact that he he twisted up the

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<v Speaker 1>uh the percentages, so right, I have. I'm gonna make

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<v Speaker 1>a guess after you read it. I'm gonna guess who

0:44:25.320 --> 0:44:28.520
<v Speaker 1>make you chose? Please do? Okay, simple poll, Brian, which

0:44:28.600 --> 0:44:31.440
<v Speaker 1>new wide receiver? Of these new wide receivers will have

0:44:31.440 --> 0:44:34.560
<v Speaker 1>the biggest impact in twenty eighteen. I've got Tavon Austin

0:44:34.600 --> 0:44:36.440
<v Speaker 1>as a receiver here. Okay, he's gonna at least do

0:44:37.120 --> 0:44:40.440
<v Speaker 1>in my opinion's probably gonna most of one. Alan Hearns,

0:44:41.000 --> 0:44:45.440
<v Speaker 1>Michael Gallup or Deante Thompson. Okay, Mickey, before I make

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<v Speaker 1>your guess, did you at least choose somebody that was

0:44:48.440 --> 0:44:51.600
<v Speaker 1>on this Yes? I did? Okay, there was no rite

0:44:51.600 --> 0:44:56.319
<v Speaker 1>in available, Okay, so I couldn't. I couldn't vote for Marchie.

0:44:57.400 --> 0:45:00.960
<v Speaker 1>He loves his Marchie Marchie and Mickey Marchie Special pot Show.

0:45:01.360 --> 0:45:05.960
<v Speaker 1>I want to say that Mickey wrote Deontay Thompson that

0:45:06.040 --> 0:45:08.520
<v Speaker 1>you voted for him. I did not. Did you vote

0:45:08.520 --> 0:45:11.759
<v Speaker 1>for Gallup? I did not? Okay, Well, then I'm out. Well,

0:45:12.280 --> 0:45:15.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm not skewing it. I played the percentages of who's

0:45:15.120 --> 0:45:17.040
<v Speaker 1>going to get the best chance and it's gonna be

0:45:17.080 --> 0:45:20.040
<v Speaker 1>Alan Hurns. Oh, he wrote the obvious one. See, I

0:45:20.120 --> 0:45:23.480
<v Speaker 1>thought he was gonna go with the Deontay Thompson, you know,

0:45:23.880 --> 0:45:26.799
<v Speaker 1>run up flash on him. Bryce Butler two point kind

0:45:26.800 --> 0:45:29.480
<v Speaker 1>of a guy. Yes, Yeah, who'd you vote for? I

0:45:29.560 --> 0:45:32.400
<v Speaker 1>voted for Herns? He did. Yeah, And if he doesn't

0:45:32.440 --> 0:45:35.239
<v Speaker 1>make the biggest impact, they're in trouble. Well, I just

0:45:35.320 --> 0:45:37.040
<v Speaker 1>need him to be as good as does Bryant was

0:45:37.120 --> 0:45:40.800
<v Speaker 1>last year. That's all I need. Was it? Sixty five catches?

0:45:41.120 --> 0:45:44.840
<v Speaker 1>Sixty nine sixty nine catches? How many yards we have?

0:45:45.080 --> 0:45:50.399
<v Speaker 1>What was how many touchdowns we have? Six? Okay, give

0:45:50.400 --> 0:45:53.080
<v Speaker 1>me that In total agreement, I went with Alan Hurns

0:45:53.120 --> 0:45:57.040
<v Speaker 1>as well. Fans agree, Yeah, why well, I would just

0:45:57.040 --> 0:45:58.840
<v Speaker 1>have to say, you know, he kind of has nothing

0:45:58.880 --> 0:46:02.040
<v Speaker 1>to lose here. I mean, granted he has you have

0:46:02.120 --> 0:46:04.560
<v Speaker 1>to be this number one wide receiver, but no one's

0:46:04.600 --> 0:46:08.200
<v Speaker 1>thinking of him as a Dez Bryant type guy yet, right,

0:46:08.360 --> 0:46:10.440
<v Speaker 1>you know? So we remember Sweeden nice though the Dez

0:46:10.480 --> 0:46:12.920
<v Speaker 1>Bryant numbers, the numbers would be great, and yes, he

0:46:13.000 --> 0:46:16.000
<v Speaker 1>wore eighty eight at Jacksonville, so there's yeah, hopefully some

0:46:16.040 --> 0:46:18.720
<v Speaker 1>similarities there. But I feel like he's in the perfect

0:46:18.760 --> 0:46:23.000
<v Speaker 1>position to have a breakout year. It's great opportunity for sure,

0:46:23.080 --> 0:46:25.239
<v Speaker 1>and they're not. Yeah, they're not asking him to be

0:46:26.080 --> 0:46:29.440
<v Speaker 1>dominant necessarily, that'd be great, but just be be reliable

0:46:29.480 --> 0:46:32.920
<v Speaker 1>for deck. How close were Thompson and Gallop? Well, hearns

0:46:32.920 --> 0:46:36.880
<v Speaker 1>one forty five percent. Thompson only got three percent of them. Okay,

0:46:36.760 --> 0:46:39.480
<v Speaker 1>the folks don't know him yet. Michael Gallop was second

0:46:39.560 --> 0:46:42.680
<v Speaker 1>thirty seven percent, Austin fifteen percent. I wonder how much

0:46:42.719 --> 0:46:43.920
<v Speaker 1>of that as well. Is he going to be a

0:46:44.160 --> 0:46:47.919
<v Speaker 1>quasi running back, Yes, he will do some of those things.

0:46:47.920 --> 0:46:50.000
<v Speaker 1>They're gonna move him. He's gonna be a chess piece, right, yes,

0:46:50.200 --> 0:46:52.520
<v Speaker 1>so very similar to I believe you'll see it, very

0:46:52.560 --> 0:46:54.640
<v Speaker 1>similar to the way they used him in Los Angeles.

0:46:54.800 --> 0:46:57.080
<v Speaker 1>Was is a running back. They used him as a

0:46:57.120 --> 0:46:59.520
<v Speaker 1>slot player to throw the ball to a lot of

0:46:59.520 --> 0:47:02.040
<v Speaker 1>his stuff is not down the field. A lot of

0:47:02.040 --> 0:47:04.560
<v Speaker 1>his stuff is around the line of scrimmage. It's the

0:47:04.640 --> 0:47:08.399
<v Speaker 1>jet sweeps. It's the sweeps, it's the straight handoffs, it's

0:47:08.680 --> 0:47:12.279
<v Speaker 1>you know, one back runs, it's screens. That's that's the

0:47:12.360 --> 0:47:15.000
<v Speaker 1>kind of player that he is. And I see them

0:47:15.000 --> 0:47:18.080
<v Speaker 1>doing the same thing with him with him here, so

0:47:18.120 --> 0:47:20.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't don't make any judgments on what they do

0:47:20.680 --> 0:47:23.080
<v Speaker 1>in the first week of OTA. He's like, oh, he's

0:47:23.120 --> 0:47:26.040
<v Speaker 1>only playing wide receive, right. Look, the guys settle in

0:47:26.360 --> 0:47:29.640
<v Speaker 1>getting used to the offense, and then you'll start seeing

0:47:29.719 --> 0:47:31.799
<v Speaker 1>them moving them around and they may not show us

0:47:32.040 --> 0:47:35.600
<v Speaker 1>everything exactly right. Yeah. I think though, the one if

0:47:35.600 --> 0:47:38.560
<v Speaker 1>they could get gallop though, if they can get gallop

0:47:38.640 --> 0:47:42.000
<v Speaker 1>to the learning curve with gallop to be very small,

0:47:42.239 --> 0:47:43.719
<v Speaker 1>you know, to get him out there. I mean, he's

0:47:43.719 --> 0:47:47.680
<v Speaker 1>got the quickness, athletic ability to avoid the jams. He

0:47:47.719 --> 0:47:50.200
<v Speaker 1>can make plays down the field. I was talking to

0:47:50.200 --> 0:47:52.200
<v Speaker 1>some guys. I'm like, you know, you turn around every

0:47:52.239 --> 0:47:53.640
<v Speaker 1>once so while you just see the ball going down

0:47:53.719 --> 0:47:56.400
<v Speaker 1>the field of thirteen and like Mike White throwing it.

0:47:56.440 --> 0:47:59.640
<v Speaker 1>The guy's got the ability to adjust, to extend, you know,

0:47:59.680 --> 0:48:01.680
<v Speaker 1>those types of things that you want. He could be

0:48:01.719 --> 0:48:05.239
<v Speaker 1>the one surprise that if things don't really work out

0:48:05.239 --> 0:48:07.640
<v Speaker 1>for Alan Hearns, Okay, now it's about okay, let's get

0:48:07.719 --> 0:48:10.360
<v Speaker 1>him going. But if the learning curve is very, very small,

0:48:10.560 --> 0:48:12.759
<v Speaker 1>he might give Alan Hearnes a run. So thirty seven

0:48:12.800 --> 0:48:16.680
<v Speaker 1>percent of the people there might be absolutely right a situation. Yeah,

0:48:16.719 --> 0:48:19.120
<v Speaker 1>he was my second choice. Yeah, and I just just thinking,

0:48:19.400 --> 0:48:22.520
<v Speaker 1>how is he going to get the opportunity. The rookies

0:48:22.680 --> 0:48:25.680
<v Speaker 1>usually take a little time to get going, but he

0:48:25.719 --> 0:48:28.680
<v Speaker 1>could have a huge impact well. And so this this

0:48:28.760 --> 0:48:32.360
<v Speaker 1>occurred to me from a percentage standpoint, What do we

0:48:32.400 --> 0:48:36.440
<v Speaker 1>see more of four wide or two tight ends? I

0:48:36.480 --> 0:48:39.640
<v Speaker 1>think you'll see more. I think that the three wides

0:48:39.760 --> 0:48:43.400
<v Speaker 1>is there or you said four, said four. Yeah, they

0:48:43.560 --> 0:48:46.480
<v Speaker 1>tend to run the ball. They could run the ball

0:48:46.480 --> 0:48:50.799
<v Speaker 1>out of eleven personnel pretty well, spread people out, and

0:48:50.840 --> 0:48:54.839
<v Speaker 1>they're probably gonna have to do it. Well, they're gonna

0:48:54.880 --> 0:48:57.560
<v Speaker 1>have to do it. Just maybe if the receivers don't

0:48:57.600 --> 0:49:01.319
<v Speaker 1>have success, they're still probably gonna have to get an

0:49:01.360 --> 0:49:05.400
<v Speaker 1>eleven personnel just to make people spread out. You know,

0:49:05.520 --> 0:49:07.520
<v Speaker 1>like if you could say, okay, well we'll play everybody

0:49:07.520 --> 0:49:10.279
<v Speaker 1>a little wider and give themselves some space and keep

0:49:10.320 --> 0:49:13.440
<v Speaker 1>people from walking guys down into the box. I mean,

0:49:13.480 --> 0:49:15.400
<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be tough for them. They've run the football

0:49:15.400 --> 0:49:18.239
<v Speaker 1>against eight and nine man boxes before, But don't you

0:49:18.280 --> 0:49:21.160
<v Speaker 1>think that's gonna if you're a defensive coordinator right now,

0:49:21.760 --> 0:49:24.239
<v Speaker 1>I am not scared of you worried about. I'm not

0:49:24.320 --> 0:49:26.919
<v Speaker 1>scared of any one of your receivers. I'm worried about Zeke.

0:49:27.239 --> 0:49:30.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm scared about Cole Beasley, and I am scared of Zeke. Okay, Zeke.

0:49:30.760 --> 0:49:33.319
<v Speaker 1>We got to talk about him because something came out

0:49:33.400 --> 0:49:35.799
<v Speaker 1>about him last week that I was pleasantly surprised to

0:49:35.840 --> 0:49:39.840
<v Speaker 1>hear about. He has Nobel Prize, not close, not close,

0:49:40.040 --> 0:49:43.839
<v Speaker 1>but he's getting there. He is on the Leadership council. Man,

0:49:44.000 --> 0:49:46.879
<v Speaker 1>when the Nobel Prize, he's on the Leadership council. That's

0:49:46.880 --> 0:49:49.920
<v Speaker 1>a step in the right direction to that Nobel Peace Prize.

0:49:50.320 --> 0:49:52.640
<v Speaker 1>But he is on the Leadership Council, and he says,

0:49:52.880 --> 0:49:54.919
<v Speaker 1>you know, big step of that is that he wants

0:49:54.920 --> 0:49:58.320
<v Speaker 1>to be more vocal this year. He wants to step

0:49:58.440 --> 0:50:01.319
<v Speaker 1>up as one of the younger veteran ends on this team.

0:50:01.400 --> 0:50:04.759
<v Speaker 1>I'm pleasantly surprised to hear that because I think that

0:50:04.880 --> 0:50:07.640
<v Speaker 1>a large part of his identity on this team has

0:50:07.680 --> 0:50:11.160
<v Speaker 1>been you know, it's Zeke. He's been on the party

0:50:11.200 --> 0:50:15.120
<v Speaker 1>planning committee, Party Planning Committee, moving more to the leadership counsel. Yeah,

0:50:15.120 --> 0:50:19.240
<v Speaker 1>there you go. He goes from social director to actual director.

0:50:19.440 --> 0:50:21.920
<v Speaker 1>Le mate how well he does on that console after

0:50:22.239 --> 0:50:25.960
<v Speaker 1>July sixteenth. Why do you say that? Why because then

0:50:26.000 --> 0:50:31.400
<v Speaker 1>he's on his own for a month June sixteenth, A

0:50:31.520 --> 0:50:34.360
<v Speaker 1>July sixteen two, Well that's the weekend. We got the

0:50:34.360 --> 0:50:39.919
<v Speaker 1>fourth of July coming up for Zeke two trips less.

0:50:40.960 --> 0:50:44.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm happy to see ye. Yeah, And look, he's one

0:50:44.160 --> 0:50:46.719
<v Speaker 1>of the best players on this team. It's important for

0:50:46.800 --> 0:50:49.520
<v Speaker 1>your best players to be leaders because you gotta have

0:50:49.640 --> 0:50:51.440
<v Speaker 1>We talked about this. You got to have the production

0:50:51.520 --> 0:50:53.759
<v Speaker 1>to be able to be vocal. I mean, you got

0:50:53.760 --> 0:50:55.680
<v Speaker 1>to back it up on the field. So he definitely

0:50:55.680 --> 0:50:58.319
<v Speaker 1>does that. Well, if I'm Ezekiel Elliott, I'm looking at

0:50:58.400 --> 0:51:01.279
<v Speaker 1>how it affected the entire sea. What a pain it

0:51:01.360 --> 0:51:04.319
<v Speaker 1>was the entire season. What a taxing experience. It was

0:51:04.800 --> 0:51:08.120
<v Speaker 1>probably not worth it at all. And then the fact

0:51:08.120 --> 0:51:10.120
<v Speaker 1>of the matter is just look at what he lost.

0:51:10.200 --> 0:51:13.960
<v Speaker 1>He lost money, He lost respect from coaches and teammates,

0:51:14.000 --> 0:51:16.640
<v Speaker 1>He lost a lot. I don't know if he lost respect,

0:51:16.719 --> 0:51:19.520
<v Speaker 1>but he lost guaranteed money. Yeah, I'll go with the money.

0:51:19.520 --> 0:51:22.399
<v Speaker 1>And I think I think everybody they respect I mean

0:51:22.760 --> 0:51:26.080
<v Speaker 1>reliability more. You know, it was hard every week in

0:51:26.160 --> 0:51:28.759
<v Speaker 1>and out. Yeah, I think they you know, this is

0:51:28.800 --> 0:51:32.200
<v Speaker 1>going to sound really strange and probably bad. I think

0:51:32.239 --> 0:51:35.239
<v Speaker 1>they knew who Ezekiel Eliott was, but when they drafted him,

0:51:35.400 --> 0:51:38.000
<v Speaker 1>drafted it absolutely when they drafted him, I think that

0:51:38.080 --> 0:51:40.880
<v Speaker 1>there's no secret to what was going on in Ohio

0:51:40.960 --> 0:51:44.640
<v Speaker 1>State with that group. Now again, it's it's nice to

0:51:44.680 --> 0:51:47.959
<v Speaker 1>see him say, Okay, I have to be more accountable

0:51:48.400 --> 0:51:51.480
<v Speaker 1>for what's going on. Yeah, that was a very difficult year,

0:51:51.600 --> 0:51:54.680
<v Speaker 1>not only for Ezekiel financially, but it was a difficult

0:51:54.760 --> 0:51:57.160
<v Speaker 1>year for his teammates. And you know, if you're any

0:51:57.239 --> 0:51:59.680
<v Speaker 1>kind of a teammate, you would feel bad about to

0:51:59.719 --> 0:52:02.440
<v Speaker 1>sit su. You know that he wasn't there for them

0:52:02.480 --> 0:52:05.960
<v Speaker 1>for six games. You know, I mean that him playing

0:52:06.000 --> 0:52:07.839
<v Speaker 1>in games. I mean he basically came out and said,

0:52:08.080 --> 0:52:10.440
<v Speaker 1>asking Hi, about what was he fifty third on the

0:52:10.480 --> 0:52:13.000
<v Speaker 1>top one hundred player list. He goes him is six

0:52:13.040 --> 0:52:16.080
<v Speaker 1>games almost have a thousand yards? You know? I mean

0:52:16.480 --> 0:52:19.839
<v Speaker 1>that's that? Yeah. Well, no, I'm just but but I'm

0:52:19.840 --> 0:52:23.160
<v Speaker 1>just saying though, he I think I like if there

0:52:23.239 --> 0:52:25.879
<v Speaker 1>was some remorse about how it went down last year

0:52:26.239 --> 0:52:28.960
<v Speaker 1>and the and the reward for him now from the

0:52:29.000 --> 0:52:32.439
<v Speaker 1>coaches is Okay, listen, we do trust you. We think

0:52:32.480 --> 0:52:34.200
<v Speaker 1>you can be a leader, we think you can may

0:52:34.320 --> 0:52:36.719
<v Speaker 1>be a difference maker. I think this is his way

0:52:36.760 --> 0:52:39.839
<v Speaker 1>of bringing him back in. He was a little bit

0:52:39.880 --> 0:52:42.480
<v Speaker 1>on the outside last year. And you know, but everybody

0:52:42.560 --> 0:52:45.760
<v Speaker 1>loves Zeke. I don't know anybody that doesn't. Yeah, teammates

0:52:45.840 --> 0:52:47.719
<v Speaker 1>love him. And I will say one one way he

0:52:47.800 --> 0:52:52.239
<v Speaker 1>does lead is on the field. Physical. He's gonna bring

0:52:52.280 --> 0:52:54.200
<v Speaker 1>it every single time he's out there. I think guys

0:52:54.280 --> 0:52:58.600
<v Speaker 1>follow that physical tone and that's important, you know. So

0:52:59.080 --> 0:53:01.080
<v Speaker 1>that's another way to lead. You don't always have to

0:53:01.120 --> 0:53:03.399
<v Speaker 1>be the vocal guy. But obviously taking care of off

0:53:03.400 --> 0:53:05.840
<v Speaker 1>the field business. Every leader, every if you're gonna be

0:53:05.840 --> 0:53:07.279
<v Speaker 1>a leader on a team, everybody has to do that,

0:53:07.680 --> 0:53:12.120
<v Speaker 1>no question. Well, he's so lucky the draft class he

0:53:12.160 --> 0:53:14.359
<v Speaker 1>came in, they're good class. I mean you look at

0:53:14.360 --> 0:53:17.680
<v Speaker 1>guys like Jalen Smith. You have to follow his lead

0:53:17.680 --> 0:53:19.880
<v Speaker 1>of just everything he's done just to get back onto

0:53:19.960 --> 0:53:23.560
<v Speaker 1>the field. Yeah yeah, I mean yeah, this is Dak's team.

0:53:23.680 --> 0:53:26.000
<v Speaker 1>This is Zeke's team. Now, I mean there is no

0:53:26.160 --> 0:53:29.160
<v Speaker 1>Jason Witten anymore. So if the best young players on

0:53:29.200 --> 0:53:31.799
<v Speaker 1>this team have to have a larger role in the

0:53:31.840 --> 0:53:34.799
<v Speaker 1>locker room, and that includes Zeke for sure includes Zeke,

0:53:34.880 --> 0:53:39.000
<v Speaker 1>that includes Zack Martins, that includes the Byron Jones. Yeah,

0:53:39.040 --> 0:53:41.879
<v Speaker 1>it's all of a sudden, this team is very, very young.

0:53:42.080 --> 0:53:44.279
<v Speaker 1>It's it's really incredible. I've been meaning I need to

0:53:44.320 --> 0:53:46.880
<v Speaker 1>go back and see, like where it ranks. It's just

0:53:46.920 --> 0:53:49.880
<v Speaker 1>an average age because it's it's a lot of second

0:53:49.920 --> 0:53:54.560
<v Speaker 1>and third years guysperience. Well, now you're starting quarterback has

0:53:54.560 --> 0:53:56.319
<v Speaker 1>started a lot of games in the league. Now for

0:53:56.400 --> 0:53:59.400
<v Speaker 1>being twenty four years old, that's good. But you shook

0:53:59.400 --> 0:54:04.919
<v Speaker 1>your head. Yeah, well yeah, they they're they're young. But

0:54:05.120 --> 0:54:09.560
<v Speaker 1>these guys have played. Yeah, yeah, you know, Dak he's

0:54:09.560 --> 0:54:13.160
<v Speaker 1>played thirty two games. Zeke's played. Dak's played, Zeke's played

0:54:13.200 --> 0:54:19.840
<v Speaker 1>what sixteen and ten? Yeah, Collins has played. Collins has played.

0:54:20.280 --> 0:54:24.840
<v Speaker 1>You look at now once you get healthy played, Xavier

0:54:24.880 --> 0:54:27.960
<v Speaker 1>Woods played, Brown's played. They've all they've all played. So

0:54:28.360 --> 0:54:31.120
<v Speaker 1>some spots you're gonna have some guys that haven't. Of course,

0:54:31.160 --> 0:54:33.360
<v Speaker 1>the you know, if the starting mic linebacker happens to

0:54:33.440 --> 0:54:36.400
<v Speaker 1>be Vandersch, right, but but if whoever they play at

0:54:36.440 --> 0:54:39.640
<v Speaker 1>SAM linebacker, if it whether it's Jalen Smith or Wilson

0:54:39.680 --> 0:54:41.920
<v Speaker 1>Wilson's played a lot for a young guy, and the

0:54:42.000 --> 0:54:47.040
<v Speaker 1>offensive line it's played. Yeah, if Connor Williams wins the job, okay, fine,

0:54:47.120 --> 0:54:50.680
<v Speaker 1>But at least the backup tackle now has played in

0:54:50.719 --> 0:54:54.400
<v Speaker 1>the Super Bowl. So your depths there is much better

0:54:54.440 --> 0:54:59.120
<v Speaker 1>off than what you, I guess projected you had, which

0:54:59.480 --> 0:55:02.920
<v Speaker 1>didn't work out so well. This the one position I

0:55:03.000 --> 0:55:06.400
<v Speaker 1>keep going back to is this receiving group. That's the

0:55:06.480 --> 0:55:08.680
<v Speaker 1>one I think we're gonna have to figure out. Well.

0:55:08.719 --> 0:55:10.839
<v Speaker 1>I think we're gonna have to say, you haven't had

0:55:10.880 --> 0:55:12.480
<v Speaker 1>to worry about in a while. Yeah, who are the

0:55:12.520 --> 0:55:15.000
<v Speaker 1>best five? I mean, I'm not saying right now we

0:55:15.040 --> 0:55:17.799
<v Speaker 1>have to just throw out five names. But I think

0:55:17.800 --> 0:55:20.759
<v Speaker 1>when we get to Oxnard and it show you know

0:55:20.800 --> 0:55:23.440
<v Speaker 1>it show fifteen, it show eighteen, it shows you know

0:55:23.480 --> 0:55:25.440
<v Speaker 1>we're down to it. We're going, Okay, what do we

0:55:25.520 --> 0:55:28.879
<v Speaker 1>learn about this receiving crew? Jeff trouble ranking them last week?

0:55:29.880 --> 0:55:33.880
<v Speaker 1>I put Beasley at number one. I did too well.

0:55:33.920 --> 0:55:36.680
<v Speaker 1>You know, you look at where we were this dot

0:55:36.680 --> 0:55:39.080
<v Speaker 1>com by the way, yeah it's there. I remember there

0:55:39.080 --> 0:55:41.640
<v Speaker 1>being a discussion about what they we're gonna do with receiver.

0:55:41.719 --> 0:55:44.480
<v Speaker 1>They had so many I mean Andy Jones was the

0:55:44.560 --> 0:55:46.799
<v Speaker 1>name that you're like, does he stay on? At this

0:55:46.920 --> 0:55:49.480
<v Speaker 1>point last year, Lucky Whitehead was still on the team.

0:55:50.040 --> 0:55:52.480
<v Speaker 1>You know, young guys were not gonna make this rock

0:55:53.080 --> 0:55:56.600
<v Speaker 1>the whole thing with with Noah Brown. Noah Brown was

0:55:56.680 --> 0:55:59.480
<v Speaker 1>a Bryce Butler. He was gonna be Yeah, I mean,

0:55:59.480 --> 0:56:00.960
<v Speaker 1>there was it was it kind of a group of

0:56:01.000 --> 0:56:04.040
<v Speaker 1>guys that you're like, Okay, we've got the four, who's

0:56:04.080 --> 0:56:07.160
<v Speaker 1>the fifth one or who's the sixth one? And now

0:56:07.200 --> 0:56:11.440
<v Speaker 1>you're kind of like, okay, we've got two or three.

0:56:11.520 --> 0:56:13.960
<v Speaker 1>Who are the other three? Yeah? You know, and you

0:56:14.080 --> 0:56:16.879
<v Speaker 1>don't have to count Austin in that group necessarily, right,

0:56:17.200 --> 0:56:19.640
<v Speaker 1>you know? So yeah, but who else can Lance Lenoor

0:56:20.040 --> 0:56:23.759
<v Speaker 1>break through? See? That's that's the guy I always talk about,

0:56:23.840 --> 0:56:26.959
<v Speaker 1>that's my my Lance leanr. Because of Will mcclay's relationship

0:56:27.080 --> 0:56:28.719
<v Speaker 1>with him is like, you know, I'd like to see

0:56:28.800 --> 0:56:31.480
<v Speaker 1>him do something. There might be it. There might be

0:56:31.480 --> 0:56:34.120
<v Speaker 1>a surprise guy that we don't think about, like that,

0:56:34.160 --> 0:56:37.279
<v Speaker 1>the Lance Lenore guy that we that that comes in

0:56:37.320 --> 0:56:40.799
<v Speaker 1>and it's like, well, what Cedric Wilson. I mean I'm

0:56:40.800 --> 0:56:42.759
<v Speaker 1>not giving Cedria. I mean I'm kind of just kind

0:56:42.760 --> 0:56:44.880
<v Speaker 1>of pooh pooh and Cedric Wilson, right, I know, and

0:56:45.000 --> 0:56:47.120
<v Speaker 1>he's got he and he's got he's got a lot

0:56:47.200 --> 0:56:49.879
<v Speaker 1>of ability and and so, okay, do you carry five

0:56:49.920 --> 0:56:52.520
<v Speaker 1>wide receivers? Wait a minut we're carrying three quarterbacks? Now, well,

0:56:52.520 --> 0:56:54.479
<v Speaker 1>how many tight ends we're gonna carry weight? You gotta

0:56:54.480 --> 0:56:56.720
<v Speaker 1>carry Rico. No, we're not gonna carry Rico. We're carrying

0:56:56.719 --> 0:57:00.000
<v Speaker 1>three tight ends. You get you kind of get into

0:57:00.000 --> 0:57:03.600
<v Speaker 1>who a numbers a numbers game with some of these positions.

0:57:04.040 --> 0:57:07.920
<v Speaker 1>And I'm not necessarily sinking it might be that whoever

0:57:08.080 --> 0:57:11.160
<v Speaker 1>doesn't make this team probably made it because they just

0:57:11.200 --> 0:57:14.439
<v Speaker 1>weren't good enough. It wasn't because which is a great

0:57:14.440 --> 0:57:16.920
<v Speaker 1>problem to have. Well, it's a great you want him

0:57:16.920 --> 0:57:18.840
<v Speaker 1>to be good, but you want to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>say you want to be able to say. Man, we

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<v Speaker 1>had a really tough decision. We got seven we got

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<v Speaker 1>seven receivers for five positions, instead of okay, we've got

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<v Speaker 1>seven receivers and we were only going to take these four.

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<v Speaker 1>And by the way, who was on the waiver wire today? Ye?

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<v Speaker 1>Who was? Who can we trade for? Who is there

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<v Speaker 1>somebody as Yeah? Who do we need to work out?

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<v Speaker 1>You know? Yeah? And be and be aware of Earl

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<v Speaker 1>if he can play like he did in this season

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<v Speaker 1>open or against Missouri. Yeah, Malik Earl, Earl, Yeah. I

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<v Speaker 1>can't believe I sat there at the TV just cussing.

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<v Speaker 1>Eighty nine yard touchdown on third and twenty four. Welcome

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<v Speaker 1>Missouri football man. What a hanger. Well, if you guys

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