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Speaker 1: World headquarters at the Star in Frisco. Cha. Here are

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Speaker 1: Mickey Spagnola, Brian Rods, Rob Phillips, and Taylor Stern. Welcome

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Speaker 1: everybody here into the SWBC Mortgage Studio. We are excited

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Speaker 1: after one week of OTAs, we have more to talk

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Speaker 1: about here. Of course we have to recap OTAs what happened,

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Speaker 1: what you should know. Of course, we've definitely got Rob's

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Speaker 1: Twitter poll coming up in the third segment, So if

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Speaker 1: you haven't voted, you need to vote. Mickey, you voted,

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Speaker 1: I did, I swung? This percentage is great. Yes, if

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Speaker 1: Mickey voted, you guys better get there. Go to our

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Speaker 1: Twitter account at Talking Cowboys. And of course we have

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Speaker 1: owners meetings to review and then looking ahead to OTA's

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Speaker 1: week at number two. So we're in it. We're ready

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Speaker 1: to win. We have officially one hundred days until the

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Speaker 1: NFL season today, not necessarily the Cowboys season, but until

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Speaker 1: the NFL season starts. It's one hundred, exactly one hundred

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Speaker 1: for the cow Thursday Night opener. The Cowboys opener, Thursday

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Speaker 1: Night opener on Thursday, will be a hundred for the Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: So and it feels like two days till training camp.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna wake up tomorrow and it's gonna be time

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Speaker 1: to get on that play. Two months Yeah, well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: roughly right. You're excited about this training camp? Seven weeks?

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Speaker 1: Absolutely all right? You enjoy all that because it's already

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Speaker 1: a hundred degrees out, Yes, exactly, start right there. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Mickey's minutes a training camp were hard to come up,

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Speaker 1: come by because he was so happy out there. I

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Speaker 1: know he was. Yeah, bring those back well because I

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Speaker 1: didn't have to read the durned paper every morning. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: oh yeah, life just goes by a little slower for

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Speaker 1: a newspaper man. That's a hard thing to do, right, Well,

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of stuff in this world. Yeah, there

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Speaker 1: is about that. Yeah, well, that's why we have the

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Speaker 1: joy of talking about Cowboys. And it's exciting it's going

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Speaker 1: on out here. And the first thing I want to

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Speaker 1: ask you guys, because we've got a lot to get into,

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Speaker 1: is this the making of a dangerous Cowboys defense? And

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Speaker 1: I pose that question to my lovely panel here because

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Speaker 1: of what I saw at OTAs. We were all fortunate

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Speaker 1: to see DeMarcus Lawrence get the tag, his attitude toward it.

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Speaker 1: You know he's talking, I'm not the normal guy here

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Speaker 1: in this situation. We have a fully healthy Jalen Smith,

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Speaker 1: Byron Jones fully at cornerback. We've talked extensively about what

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Speaker 1: Chris Richard can possibly do with this young secondary. You

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Speaker 1: have the undrafted Cam Kelly making a little bit of

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Speaker 1: a splash there, Sean Lee being smart taking a second

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Speaker 1: to not just jump into Ota, saving his body. So

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Speaker 1: that's why I wanted to get you guys to discuss

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Speaker 1: this at least because I think there's something that all

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Speaker 1: fans are excited about. Is this something you can hold

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Speaker 1: on to. It's a great discussion point. I like that because, um,

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Speaker 1: I think you can look at certain spots on the

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Speaker 1: defense and say this might be the deepest we've seen

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Speaker 1: under Rod Marinelli. I'm looking at the defensive line and

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Speaker 1: maybe that pass rush rotation and say, wow, you know,

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Speaker 1: if Lawrence Armstrong fourth round pick, can develop, Cony Eely

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Speaker 1: Pro Bowl guy, this might be the best pass Russian

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Speaker 1: group he's had since he came here In twenty thirteen,

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Speaker 1: I'm this is gonna sound weird, but I'm gonna the rotation.

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Speaker 1: I it might this defense might come down to what

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Speaker 1: do they do? What do they figure out a defensive tackle?

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Speaker 1: And I saw some good things from jahad Ward and

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Speaker 1: I and I and I mean this in a positive

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Speaker 1: way of movement, strength, being difficult to block. Again, it's

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Speaker 1: if you for a team looking for defensive tackle help,

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Speaker 1: this jihad Ward trade might have might pan out for

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Speaker 1: with Ryan Switzer, you know, if you had an idea

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Speaker 1: because if you look at that defensive line rotation at

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Speaker 1: Also we got to see it when the pads come on.

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Speaker 1: And then how quickly vander Esh is able to read

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Speaker 1: how well now play? And now now to your point,

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Speaker 1: save him from himself, save him from himself. That's right.

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Speaker 1: while with some other reporters. He's still out there. He's

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Speaker 1: still need a backup. And I think when you mentioned

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Speaker 1: I mean it will be I'll make the prediction right now.

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Speaker 1: It will be on the Nickel defense. Oh no, that's

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Speaker 1: that's very It was. Best traits is his ability to coverage,

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Speaker 1: his best side. They've targeted him as a guy clearly

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Speaker 1: I think the will linebacker stuff that he showed some

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Speaker 1: But he's got some of the traits that you see

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Speaker 1: good things with him as far as the read, the reaction,

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Speaker 1: know there were some times at Green Bay where you

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Speaker 1: watched and play where he didn't have that kind those

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Speaker 1: kinds of traits. Uh, you know, got caught in some

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Speaker 1: coverage Carolina game I thought was really good for him

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Speaker 1: as far as some of the coverage things, you know,

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Speaker 1: I think from an athletic standpoint, they're better at linebacker

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Speaker 1: was a concern, right, huge concern and huge concern. You

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Speaker 1: all right. So Brian asked a question before we get

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Speaker 1: to the offense, because I want to talk about Zach Martin.

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Speaker 1: Terrence Williams we have to Tavon Austin, so before we

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Speaker 1: get there, I just was curious if there's anybody of

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Speaker 1: the corners that you would have liked to have had

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Speaker 1: back for this current group, or none at all comfortable

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Speaker 1: with what the group the way it is, the way

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Speaker 1: you liked the group. I mean with somebody. Could Mo

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Speaker 1: Claiborne been a factor of the way they're now playing

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Speaker 1: Brandon Carr or like you said, none of these guys.

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Speaker 1: I'm okay. They did the right thing. I'm okay with

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Speaker 1: this Corner group for me as far as DBS go.

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Speaker 1: I mentioned it last week. Barry Church when he was here,

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Speaker 1: was a stabilizing presence at safety. Yeah, but I think

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Speaker 1: they've we mentioned the number of guys they got at Corner,

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Speaker 1: young guys. I think a Woozier's poised to take a

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Speaker 1: step this year if he can stay healthy. I like

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Speaker 1: what they've done at call. So they made the right move. Then,

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Speaker 1: to everybody out there, it was kind of like it

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Speaker 1: was the gnashing of teeth that Okay, well, oh guy,

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Speaker 1: they're getting rid of all these guys. You can't play

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Speaker 1: with young corners. So they actually that was a good

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Speaker 1: move by the front office. Financial standpoint, also sure, because

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Speaker 1: I'm with you on maybe Clayborne. But he got a

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Speaker 1: little bit of money from the Jets. Jets right right, Yeah, um,

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Speaker 1: he got some good money. And you're sitting there going, well,

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Speaker 1: I'd like to see him. They have that speed there,

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Speaker 1: but he couldn't stay healthy. As for the rest of it, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's too bad that these guys didn't stay healthy last

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Speaker 1: year because I think you would have seen the takeover

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Speaker 1: at a greater pace than what we did. Well, this

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Speaker 1: is a good segue because obviously those guys they've left,

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Speaker 1: and it happens every year and a large part of

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Speaker 1: it is due to contracts. And now we're here. Was

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Speaker 1: Zach Martin everon thought that contract would get figured out

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Speaker 1: a little bit sooner, but things happen. Time hands passed.

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Speaker 1: We are close to June and Zach Martin still doesn't

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Speaker 1: have his long term deal. We all expect it to happen,

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Speaker 1: but until then, he's here working out he's just not

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Speaker 1: participating in OTAs right and in the meantime, and it's

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Speaker 1: got to get it done. You just gotta get it done.

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Speaker 1: I think that to me, this is this is one

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Speaker 1: of those deals where and you guys, correct me if

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Speaker 1: I'm wrong here, but this is just my thought about it.

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Speaker 1: It's a position that we've seen very few. We've seen

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Speaker 1: the position go up through the years. I mean the

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Speaker 1: last couple of years, people have stepped up to pay

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Speaker 1: their guards as much as tackle has always been a

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Speaker 1: position you paid. Wide receiver has been a position you paid,

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Speaker 1: Cornerback has been a position you paid. Quarterbacks a position

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Speaker 1: you're played. I think this is new to teams. I

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Speaker 1: think these is new to teams that having to play,

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Speaker 1: having to pay that much haven't much for me for

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Speaker 1: a guard. And it's not that they don't want to

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Speaker 1: do it, but I think they're in a situation where

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Speaker 1: they're thinking, Okay, what is the right amount, what's not

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Speaker 1: what's too high, what's too low. I think you're always

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Speaker 1: comfortable with the other positions I mentioned, the tackles, the quarterbacks,

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Speaker 1: the cornerbacks. I think that you. I think your team's

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Speaker 1: front offices are comfortable with those positions. Guards a little

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Speaker 1: bit different. Cat and I and you don't want to.

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Speaker 1: You don't want to. You don't want to short change

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Speaker 1: an all Pro player. And of course he's gonna sit

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Speaker 1: there and say, you know what, I'm one of the

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Speaker 1: better players you're on your team. I deserve just as

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Speaker 1: much money as this guy or this guy or this guy.

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Speaker 1: So I think that's why the Cowboys are having a

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Speaker 1: little bit of problem right now. It's not something that

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Speaker 1: they don't want to do or they're trying to hold

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Speaker 1: it up, but they're trying to figure out what exactly

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Speaker 1: the market is for an All Pro guard to make

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Speaker 1: sure that he's compensated like the All Pro that he is.

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Speaker 1: I wonder if the guy is Norvelle and Jacksonville, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I wonder how much maybe he reset things because see

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Speaker 1: that's one of those things that you do. Yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: exactly I mean. Now, all of a sudden, he's I

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Speaker 1: think he's the highest paid guard now and Zack Martin's

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Speaker 1: a four time Pro Bowl, All Pro gay. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: so I think I think probably what they're trying to do,

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Speaker 1: because this is not about this year or next year.

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Speaker 1: It's down the road absolute and I bet what they're

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Speaker 1: trying to do is guarantee him more money at and

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Speaker 1: the total package it's less. It's like, you're gonna get

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Speaker 1: this right now, give us a break on what it's

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Speaker 1: going to cost you In three years when I'm paying

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Speaker 1: a quarterback and I got to make a decision on Zeke.

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Speaker 1: At some point, I've got to pay a wide receiver.

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Speaker 1: You know this, this this little thing ain't gonna last

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Speaker 1: for long. Well, not only receiver by committee, but you

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Speaker 1: know Alan Hearn's two year deal and he's not making

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Speaker 1: that much money. You drafted Michael Gallup. Yeah, and to

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Speaker 1: turn out to be something really good for you. Well,

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Speaker 1: and in three or four years, you're gonna have to

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Speaker 1: pay him, right if he does. So you gotta watch

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Speaker 1: how you budget your salary cap money. It's not their money,

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Speaker 1: it's the salary cap money. I'm sure they'd love to pay,

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Speaker 1: you know, Zach Martin all, you know, whatever, But you

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Speaker 1: gotta watch how you budget down down the road. You

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Speaker 1: gotta next year, you got to figure out what what

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Speaker 1: if Lawrence has another Pro Bowl season, what are you

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Speaker 1: gonna do with him? Yeah, you know it's a long

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Speaker 1: term deal for him too, now, So they got to

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Speaker 1: be careful. And and I think you're right about guard.

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Speaker 1: You sitting there going, God, it's a guard, but the

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Speaker 1: best one in the league. Right. But See, that's why

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Speaker 1: I don't think people have a real handle on that.

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Speaker 1: The example about the kid that got signed at Jacksonville. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know that, that's not having a handle on And

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Speaker 1: they had so much money, Yeah right, they had They

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Speaker 1: did because they were like seventy million under the cap,

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Speaker 1: so they could spend and it's like, okay, well, you know,

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Speaker 1: well's never gonna run dry. We may be a little

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Speaker 1: spoiled too, because we've seen Tyren Smith, Travis Frederick, even

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Speaker 1: Lale Collins last year to get done early, like with

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Speaker 1: two years left on there deal. I think we all

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Speaker 1: kind of thought, oh, Zach will get done last summer.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna get done, I think, But it's it's taken

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Speaker 1: longer than we thought. It depends what they're asking for. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, Well,

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Speaker 1: a lot of fans have a lot of questions, and

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Speaker 1: you guys are the experts here, so everyone has heard

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Speaker 1: about what's happened to Terrence Williams. He was not out

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Speaker 1: there last week, not only because of what's going on,

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Speaker 1: mainly because of his foot and the rehab there, and

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Speaker 1: we all expected he wouldn't be out there. Well he

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Speaker 1: didn't practice, right, didn't practice. Yeah, that's what I meant.

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Speaker 1: He was out there. That's what I'm when I'm saying

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Speaker 1: out there, I'm mainly meaning that they're on the field participating.

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Speaker 1: Terrence Williams, does he have one foot at the door?

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Speaker 1: What's going to happen with this? I hate to ask

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Speaker 1: that and put anyone's job on the line, but we're just, Oh,

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Speaker 1: he put it on the line. That's not true, Mickey,

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Speaker 1: you're right, You're right. And so there's just a lot

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Speaker 1: of speculation of his future on this team and kind

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Speaker 1: of getting your guys's thoughts and understanding of it. Well,

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Speaker 1: we don't know what's going to happen. Legally, Yeah, we

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Speaker 1: know that the NFL can can take action against a

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Speaker 1: player even if it's not even if he's not charged.

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Speaker 1: I mean we saw that with Zeke or if it's

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Speaker 1: not a serious matter. I think we're talking about misdemeanors here,

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Speaker 1: I believe with what we've seen in the reports, with

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Speaker 1: police reports, with Terrence in the public intoxication. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: don't know. I think this receiver group's got to shake

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Speaker 1: itself out a little bit before you start talking about

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Speaker 1: moving on from him. I still think you've got to

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Speaker 1: see some guys emerge. And I'm talking about Alan Hearnson.

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Speaker 1: I'm talking about Michael Gallup, and you know what you

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Speaker 1: have in Terrence, and he's a guy that's played with DAK.

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Speaker 1: He hasn't been a high production guy, but he has

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Speaker 1: helped you in certain games. He's helped you in the

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Speaker 1: running game. I wouldn't jump there yet, but obviously they've

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Speaker 1: brought in a lot of competition and it certainly would

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Speaker 1: help him to be on the field competing. Well. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 1: he's hurt, so he's in double jeopardy. Not only the

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Speaker 1: legal thing hanging over, but he's recovering from surgery to

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Speaker 1: repair of fractured fifth METATARSL. So he wouldn't be out there,

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Speaker 1: and the idea was not to have him out there

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Speaker 1: till training camp, but he didn't do him himself any favors. Now, again,

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Speaker 1: it may come down to what the league does, because

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Speaker 1: if the league wants to punish him, then the guarantee

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Speaker 1: goes base salary this year, three and a half million disappears, right,

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Speaker 1: and then it's like, oh, well, it's not going to

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Speaker 1: cost us that much to absorb the rest of his

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Speaker 1: pro rated signing bonus. So at this point, you know,

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Speaker 1: everybody's waving their liberal flag. I'll get rid of the

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Speaker 1: guy and we don't need him. Well, it would cost

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Speaker 1: you three and a half million because he's already on

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Speaker 1: the books for a guaranteed salary. So you have to

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Speaker 1: be careful, and you would like to write it out

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Speaker 1: and have one person here on the field that actually

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Speaker 1: la a lot. Last year, even though he didn't have

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Speaker 1: any touchdowns, he still had fifty three catches. You know,

636
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,720
Speaker 1: you just eliminated one hundred and thirty two catches from

637
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Speaker 1: your team. Would Witton and dead now I add fifty

638
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 1: three to that, it would just be Beasley. He'd be

639
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:16,240
Speaker 1: the only guy leafed over. I think now Noah Brown,

640
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 1: and look at it as it is right now, Beasley

641
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 1: is the only guy on this team that's caught more

642
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 1: than sixty four catches in a season. Hearns one year

643
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 1: in Jacksonville sixty four. I said more, yeah, yeah, twenty

644
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 1: four times in the league. And I think at the

645
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:35,720
Speaker 1: last three years we've had situations where players have conduct

646
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 1: detrimental policy whatever you want to say, only four times

647
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 1: have the player been released. I means twenty other players

648
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 1: with the similar type of things that have happened to

649
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 1: Terrence Williams still stayed on the team. So I don't

650
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 1: think they're gonna get him. I just don't write. You

651
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 1: look at somebody like Demontre Moore and what followed him

652
00:33:56,360 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 1: from Seattle's. Yeah, but players in this situation, twenty of

653
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 1: the twenty four were brought back only four times as

654
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 1: a team cut a player like this. I you've all

655
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 1: made great points. It's catches, it's it's experience, it's it's

656
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 1: familiarity with the player. Yeah that you know what what

657
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 1: happened last year at this time, if you remember as well,

658
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Speaker 1: with Damian Wilson and his thing with a gun in

659
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:26,240
Speaker 1: a parking lot of or dispute and all that, Damian

660
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:29,400
Speaker 1: Wilson was still here, you know. I mean there's things

661
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 1: that they will tolerate. And I think this is a

662
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:36,279
Speaker 1: situation where he made a mistake and you know, he's

663
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:39,359
Speaker 1: he's going to uh, he's going to pay for it,

664
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Speaker 1: not only having to get his car fixed, but he's

665
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:43,839
Speaker 1: also going to pay for it, you know a little

666
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:46,279
Speaker 1: bit personally, you know, with himself. I mean, he's got

667
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:48,320
Speaker 1: to live with that now. But I think the team

668
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:50,400
Speaker 1: keeps him around. I don't. I don't see them getting

669
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Speaker 1: rid of him. I see them getting him healthy, getting

670
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:54,880
Speaker 1: him back on the field and then let him compete,

671
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:58,240
Speaker 1: as Rob says, and let them shake this receiver thing out.

672
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 1: That might be the position right there. When we talk

673
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:03,400
Speaker 1: about the strength of a team, that one might be

674
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:06,719
Speaker 1: the weakness of this team. It's unproven. When it's all

675
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 1: said and done. We just need don't need to be

676
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:12,759
Speaker 1: so righteous. Yeah, right off the bat, before we even know.

677
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 1: I mean we've heard three different stories on well, the

678
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 1: worst thing that happened is he shouldn't have him and

679
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 1: his agent should have made a statement right once. Then

680
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:25,239
Speaker 1: once all that police the video came out. That was

681
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 1: very embarrassing. Yeah, that's something they can't take back. Oh

682
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 1: I didn't do this. I didn't do this. I know.

683
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:33,279
Speaker 1: Well oh wait wait flipping over the front of your

684
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Speaker 1: bike here, what are you doing there? You didn't talk

685
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:39,440
Speaker 1: about that, did you? You know? So that's yeah, this

686
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:41,879
Speaker 1: is this is something you know that needs to be worked.

687
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:43,880
Speaker 1: I mean he was very he was very polite to

688
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Speaker 1: the police officer. The police officer very polite to him.

689
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 1: I mean you could see all those things handle the

690
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 1: right way. But they didn't need to make a statement.

691
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:52,400
Speaker 1: They just did not need to make that. And he

692
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:54,439
Speaker 1: is let's gotta point this out. He's a guy they've

693
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 1: never had a problem with off the field. So you know,

694
00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:01,360
Speaker 1: it's like you said, it's a mistake. Fortunate except for

695
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:04,439
Speaker 1: running forty yard dashes in the parking lot at three

696
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Speaker 1: in the morning. What do you remember that one? Nope,

697
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Speaker 1: there was another another one. Let me tell you what.

698
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Speaker 1: There was a bar in Dallas that somebody bet me

699
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Speaker 1: I couldn't hit a five iron over a parking lot,

700
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:19,719
Speaker 1: over a building, and I did it, And that sometimes

701
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 1: you do forty yards. Sometimes you do forty yard dashes

702
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:26,000
Speaker 1: in the uh. You get challenged, you're challenged, and sometimes

703
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Speaker 1: you do it. So like in training camp at the

704
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 1: old Cedar Door in Austin when we were hitting seven

705
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:36,400
Speaker 1: ironers into from the gravel parking lot, hitting seven irons

706
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Speaker 1: into the power plant. Yeah, well I was bet. I

707
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:41,880
Speaker 1: was bet I couldn't hit it over a building. We

708
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:43,759
Speaker 1: got it over the fence. I don't know how far

709
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 1: it went really back back in all right, talking about

710
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 1: speed though, tavon Austin. Of course, it run's curious of

711
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:51,759
Speaker 1: what he's going to end up really being. You have

712
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:55,359
Speaker 1: this hybrid receiver running back out there, and he calls

713
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 1: himself he said, I'm just a playmaker, it's all he is. True,

714
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Speaker 1: He's just here to make so hopefully he'll he'll make

715
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 1: them for you. Mick. He can run quickly, He's very quick,

716
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Speaker 1: and I think it gives him a dangerous person for

717
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 1: punt returns. And I raised the prospect of returning kickoffs

718
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:18,239
Speaker 1: with him and he goes, well, you know, I really

719
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 1: haven't done that much, right, And I said yeah, But

720
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 1: just like that, he goes, I'm sure my name's gonna

721
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 1: come up. And all I can think of is with

722
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:33,239
Speaker 1: the new kickoff return rules, somebody actually kicks it to him,

723
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Speaker 1: and you've got all that open field. I probably shouldn't

724
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 1: have said it to Jason the other day, and I said, yeah,

725
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Speaker 1: sort of like the did I go the Kansas City

726
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:45,919
Speaker 1: game at the end of the half when you brought

727
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,360
Speaker 1: up the Hill Mary when Mickey no, it was a

728
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:51,320
Speaker 1: dump off that ended up at Hill Mary, right, But

729
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 1: but no, just think of a fast guy like that

730
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:56,880
Speaker 1: in the middle of the field when you don't have

731
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 1: a lot of people around him. And now it's almost

732
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 1: a video game and there's no running start anymore. There's

733
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:06,880
Speaker 1: no running start. You can't drop your guys back to block.

734
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Speaker 1: You got to stay in that area, so there's a

735
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:13,279
Speaker 1: lot of space if you've got a speedy, shifty guy.

736
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Speaker 1: I think there's seven, sorry, seven new kickoff rules that

737
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:22,400
Speaker 1: will impact if they're trying to prevent collisions. I think

738
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:24,839
Speaker 1: they've done a bad job with this rule. I think

739
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:28,760
Speaker 1: special teams coaches are going to figure this out about skykicking,

740
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:32,439
Speaker 1: pooge kicking. They don't have extra blockers in the back. Now,

741
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:35,359
Speaker 1: all you have to do is put fast guys up

742
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 1: front on your cover team. You just play balance. But

743
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 1: if you win that initial block where you have the

744
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:43,880
Speaker 1: stationary blockers in that area, now you're running to the football.

745
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 1: They don't have enough guys to block you back there wedge,

746
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 1: So all of a sudden, you're gonna see people dumping

747
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 1: the football. There's gonna be more collisions in this game.

748
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:55,120
Speaker 1: People trying to stop them from from bringing the ball

749
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 1: out past. Yeah, you're going to do one of two things.

750
00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:00,200
Speaker 1: Because the two guys you only can have three back there,

751
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:03,360
Speaker 1: right right, So two of them aren't gonna be linebackers

752
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 1: or defensive linemen that can block. It's gonna have to

753
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 1: be somebody that catches the ball. And if you only

754
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 1: can have one guy back then, how liked the field? Yeah,

755
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 1: and you're gonna start hitting the ball to the ten

756
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 1: yard line on the side. There's gonna be more squib kicks,

757
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 1: there's gonna be more pooch kicks, there's gonna be more

758
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:24,439
Speaker 1: trying to be disruptive with the football. They're gonna they're

759
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:27,279
Speaker 1: they're gonna get the total opposite of safety here. There's

760
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 1: gonna be a ton of collisions, directional kicking. Try and

761
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 1: get guys pinned into a corner, get them on the

762
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 1: tackle them on the ten, twelve yard line and let

763
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:38,279
Speaker 1: them start from there. And they think that's the bad rule.

764
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:39,759
Speaker 1: You think that instead of just trying to go for

765
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 1: more tapas. Absolutely, because you can pin them deep like that.

766
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:44,399
Speaker 1: Just now, there's gonna be more collisions or you just

767
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:47,920
Speaker 1: don't get to the ball. Yeah. Today, And if it

768
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 1: is about safety, right because NFL owners, the report is

769
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 1: owners were told concussions are five times is likely to

770
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 1: occur on kickoff returns. So, but it's a collision game.

771
00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:00,360
Speaker 1: But if you're a kickoff, if you're on the kickoff team,

772
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:02,719
Speaker 1: you don't get a run up anymore. Right, you gotta

773
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:04,319
Speaker 1: be one yard But all you have to do is

774
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:06,879
Speaker 1: well and they and they're not allowed to drop. So

775
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:08,920
Speaker 1: right the way it is, so you're gonna have a

776
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:11,279
Speaker 1: lot of collisions up front. Up front. Is it going

777
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:15,240
Speaker 1: to create about forty yards of space? Absolutely? And who's

778
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 1: keeping somebody from dumping the ball and letting it just

779
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 1: bounce around down there? And again putting putting defensive backs

780
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 1: on your kickoff team, Guys that can run, Guys that

781
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 1: can avoid, Guys that can make make the plaque that

782
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:30,240
Speaker 1: can cover the kick. I think Jason said it best

783
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:32,279
Speaker 1: in the press conference when he said, when you make

784
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:36,200
Speaker 1: rules like this, there's always unintended consequences. Oh yeah, get ready,

785
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 1: you didn't did you think it all the way through?

786
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:41,279
Speaker 1: Because the coaches they will figure it out how to

787
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 1: take advantage. They are figuring out right now. Yes, absolutely, Well,

788
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845
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 1: is a Cowboys fan. We got and Chris Paul is too.

846
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 1: So how many shots? How many shots did uh? I

847
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:03,759
Speaker 1: don't want to get you the Twitter poll? Do you?

848
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:06,319
Speaker 1: You just don't want shots at Harden put up last

849
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 1: night like twenty nine seven for twenty nine or something ridiculous.

850
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 1: I don't know. We already got into it a little bit,

851
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:16,839
Speaker 1: the receivers, but your pole falls along those lines and

852
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:19,920
Speaker 1: Mickey hinted the fact that he he twisted up the

853
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:23,319
Speaker 1: uh the percentages, so right, I have. I'm gonna make

854
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:25,319
Speaker 1: a guess after you read it. I'm gonna guess who

855
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 1: make you chose? Please do? Okay, simple poll, Brian, which

856
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:31,440
Speaker 1: new wide receiver? Of these new wide receivers will have

857
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 1: the biggest impact in twenty eighteen. I've got Tavon Austin

858
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:36,440
Speaker 1: as a receiver here. Okay, he's gonna at least do

859
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:40,440
Speaker 1: in my opinion's probably gonna most of one. Alan Hearns,

860
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:45,440
Speaker 1: Michael Gallup or Deante Thompson. Okay, Mickey, before I make

861
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:48,400
Speaker 1: your guess, did you at least choose somebody that was

862
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 1: on this Yes? I did? Okay, there was no rite

863
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:56,319
Speaker 1: in available, Okay, so I couldn't. I couldn't vote for Marchie.

864
00:44:57,400 --> 00:45:00,960
Speaker 1: He loves his Marchie Marchie and Mickey Marchie Special pot Show.

865
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 1: I want to say that Mickey wrote Deontay Thompson that

866
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 1: you voted for him. I did not. Did you vote

867
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:11,759
Speaker 1: for Gallup? I did not? Okay, Well, then I'm out. Well,

868
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 1: I'm not skewing it. I played the percentages of who's

869
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 1: going to get the best chance and it's gonna be

870
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 1: Alan Hurns. Oh, he wrote the obvious one. See, I

871
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:23,480
Speaker 1: thought he was gonna go with the Deontay Thompson, you know,

872
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:26,799
Speaker 1: run up flash on him. Bryce Butler two point kind

873
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 1: of a guy. Yes, Yeah, who'd you vote for? I

874
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:32,400
Speaker 1: voted for Herns? He did. Yeah, And if he doesn't

875
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:35,239
Speaker 1: make the biggest impact, they're in trouble. Well, I just

876
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:37,040
Speaker 1: need him to be as good as does Bryant was

877
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:40,800
Speaker 1: last year. That's all I need. Was it? Sixty five catches?

878
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:44,840
Speaker 1: Sixty nine sixty nine catches? How many yards we have?

879
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:50,399
Speaker 1: What was how many touchdowns we have? Six? Okay, give

880
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:53,080
Speaker 1: me that In total agreement, I went with Alan Hurns

881
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 1: as well. Fans agree, Yeah, why well, I would just

882
00:45:57,040 --> 00:45:58,840
Speaker 1: have to say, you know, he kind of has nothing

883
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:02,040
Speaker 1: to lose here. I mean, granted he has you have

884
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 1: to be this number one wide receiver, but no one's

885
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 1: thinking of him as a Dez Bryant type guy yet, right,

886
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:10,440
Speaker 1: you know? So we remember Sweeden nice though the Dez

887
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:12,920
Speaker 1: Bryant numbers, the numbers would be great, and yes, he

888
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 1: wore eighty eight at Jacksonville, so there's yeah, hopefully some

889
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:18,720
Speaker 1: similarities there. But I feel like he's in the perfect

890
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 1: position to have a breakout year. It's great opportunity for sure,

891
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:25,239
Speaker 1: and they're not. Yeah, they're not asking him to be

892
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 1: dominant necessarily, that'd be great, but just be be reliable

893
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:32,920
Speaker 1: for deck. How close were Thompson and Gallop? Well, hearns

894
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:36,880
Speaker 1: one forty five percent. Thompson only got three percent of them. Okay,

895
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:39,480
Speaker 1: the folks don't know him yet. Michael Gallop was second

896
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:42,680
Speaker 1: thirty seven percent, Austin fifteen percent. I wonder how much

897
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:43,920
Speaker 1: of that as well. Is he going to be a

898
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:47,919
Speaker 1: quasi running back, Yes, he will do some of those things.

899
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 1: They're gonna move him. He's gonna be a chess piece, right, yes,

900
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:52,520
Speaker 1: so very similar to I believe you'll see it, very

901
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 1: similar to the way they used him in Los Angeles.

902
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 1: Was is a running back. They used him as a

903
00:46:57,120 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 1: slot player to throw the ball to a lot of

904
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 1: his stuff is not down the field. A lot of

905
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:04,560
Speaker 1: his stuff is around the line of scrimmage. It's the

906
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:08,399
Speaker 1: jet sweeps. It's the sweeps, it's the straight handoffs, it's

907
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:12,279
Speaker 1: you know, one back runs, it's screens. That's that's the

908
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 1: kind of player that he is. And I see them

909
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 1: doing the same thing with him with him here, so

910
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:20,600
Speaker 1: I don't don't make any judgments on what they do

911
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 1: in the first week of OTA. He's like, oh, he's

912
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 1: only playing wide receive, right. Look, the guys settle in

913
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:29,640
Speaker 1: getting used to the offense, and then you'll start seeing

914
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:31,799
Speaker 1: them moving them around and they may not show us

915
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 1: everything exactly right. Yeah. I think though, the one if

916
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:38,560
Speaker 1: they could get gallop though, if they can get gallop

917
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 1: to the learning curve with gallop to be very small,

918
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:43,719
Speaker 1: you know, to get him out there. I mean, he's

919
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:47,680
Speaker 1: got the quickness, athletic ability to avoid the jams. He

920
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 1: can make plays down the field. I was talking to

921
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 1: some guys. I'm like, you know, you turn around every

922
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 1: once so while you just see the ball going down

923
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:56,400
Speaker 1: the field of thirteen and like Mike White throwing it.

924
00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 1: The guy's got the ability to adjust, to extend, you know,

925
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:01,680
Speaker 1: those types of things that you want. He could be

926
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:05,239
Speaker 1: the one surprise that if things don't really work out

927
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 1: for Alan Hearns, Okay, now it's about okay, let's get

928
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:10,360
Speaker 1: him going. But if the learning curve is very, very small,

929
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:12,759
Speaker 1: he might give Alan Hearnes a run. So thirty seven

930
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 1: percent of the people there might be absolutely right a situation. Yeah,

931
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:19,120
Speaker 1: he was my second choice. Yeah, and I just just thinking,

932
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:22,520
Speaker 1: how is he going to get the opportunity. The rookies

933
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 1: usually take a little time to get going, but he

934
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:28,680
Speaker 1: could have a huge impact well. And so this this

935
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:32,360
Speaker 1: occurred to me from a percentage standpoint, What do we

936
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:36,440
Speaker 1: see more of four wide or two tight ends? I

937
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 1: think you'll see more. I think that the three wides

938
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:43,400
Speaker 1: is there or you said four, said four. Yeah, they

939
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 1: tend to run the ball. They could run the ball

940
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:50,799
Speaker 1: out of eleven personnel pretty well, spread people out, and

941
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:54,839
Speaker 1: they're probably gonna have to do it. Well, they're gonna

942
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 1: have to do it. Just maybe if the receivers don't

943
00:48:57,600 --> 00:49:01,319
Speaker 1: have success, they're still probably gonna have to get an

944
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:05,400
Speaker 1: eleven personnel just to make people spread out. You know,

945
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:07,520
Speaker 1: like if you could say, okay, well we'll play everybody

946
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:10,279
Speaker 1: a little wider and give themselves some space and keep

947
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:13,440
Speaker 1: people from walking guys down into the box. I mean,

948
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:15,400
Speaker 1: it's gonna be tough for them. They've run the football

949
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:18,239
Speaker 1: against eight and nine man boxes before, But don't you

950
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:21,160
Speaker 1: think that's gonna if you're a defensive coordinator right now,

951
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:24,239
Speaker 1: I am not scared of you worried about. I'm not

952
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:26,919
Speaker 1: scared of any one of your receivers. I'm worried about Zeke.

953
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 1: I'm scared about Cole Beasley, and I am scared of Zeke. Okay, Zeke.

954
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:33,319
Speaker 1: We got to talk about him because something came out

955
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:35,799
Speaker 1: about him last week that I was pleasantly surprised to

956
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:39,840
Speaker 1: hear about. He has Nobel Prize, not close, not close,

957
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:43,839
Speaker 1: but he's getting there. He is on the Leadership council. Man,

958
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:46,879
Speaker 1: when the Nobel Prize, he's on the Leadership council. That's

959
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:49,920
Speaker 1: a step in the right direction to that Nobel Peace Prize.

960
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:52,640
Speaker 1: But he is on the Leadership Council, and he says,

961
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:54,919
Speaker 1: you know, big step of that is that he wants

962
00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:58,320
Speaker 1: to be more vocal this year. He wants to step

963
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:01,319
Speaker 1: up as one of the younger veteran ends on this team.

964
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:04,759
Speaker 1: I'm pleasantly surprised to hear that because I think that

965
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:07,640
Speaker 1: a large part of his identity on this team has

966
00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:11,160
Speaker 1: been you know, it's Zeke. He's been on the party

967
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:15,120
Speaker 1: planning committee, Party Planning Committee, moving more to the leadership counsel. Yeah,

968
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:19,240
Speaker 1: there you go. He goes from social director to actual director.

969
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:21,920
Speaker 1: Le mate how well he does on that console after

970
00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:25,960
Speaker 1: July sixteenth. Why do you say that? Why because then

971
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:31,400
Speaker 1: he's on his own for a month June sixteenth, A

972
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:34,360
Speaker 1: July sixteen two, Well that's the weekend. We got the

973
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:39,919
Speaker 1: fourth of July coming up for Zeke two trips less.

974
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:44,120
Speaker 1: I'm happy to see ye. Yeah, And look, he's one

975
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:46,719
Speaker 1: of the best players on this team. It's important for

976
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:49,520
Speaker 1: your best players to be leaders because you gotta have

977
00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:51,440
Speaker 1: We talked about this. You got to have the production

978
00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:53,759
Speaker 1: to be able to be vocal. I mean, you got

979
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:55,680
Speaker 1: to back it up on the field. So he definitely

980
00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:58,319
Speaker 1: does that. Well, if I'm Ezekiel Elliott, I'm looking at

981
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:01,279
Speaker 1: how it affected the entire sea. What a pain it

982
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:04,319
Speaker 1: was the entire season. What a taxing experience. It was

983
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:08,120
Speaker 1: probably not worth it at all. And then the fact

984
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:10,120
Speaker 1: of the matter is just look at what he lost.

985
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:13,960
Speaker 1: He lost money, He lost respect from coaches and teammates,

986
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:16,640
Speaker 1: He lost a lot. I don't know if he lost respect,

987
00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:19,520
Speaker 1: but he lost guaranteed money. Yeah, I'll go with the money.

988
00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:22,399
Speaker 1: And I think I think everybody they respect I mean

989
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:26,080
Speaker 1: reliability more. You know, it was hard every week in

990
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:28,759
Speaker 1: and out. Yeah, I think they you know, this is

991
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:32,200
Speaker 1: going to sound really strange and probably bad. I think

992
00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:35,239
Speaker 1: they knew who Ezekiel Eliott was, but when they drafted him,

993
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:38,000
Speaker 1: drafted it absolutely when they drafted him, I think that

994
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:40,880
Speaker 1: there's no secret to what was going on in Ohio

995
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 1: State with that group. Now again, it's it's nice to

996
00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:47,959
Speaker 1: see him say, Okay, I have to be more accountable

997
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:51,480
Speaker 1: for what's going on. Yeah, that was a very difficult year,

998
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:54,680
Speaker 1: not only for Ezekiel financially, but it was a difficult

999
00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:57,160
Speaker 1: year for his teammates. And you know, if you're any

1000
00:51:57,239 --> 00:51:59,680
Speaker 1: kind of a teammate, you would feel bad about to

1001
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:02,440
Speaker 1: sit su. You know that he wasn't there for them

1002
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:05,960
Speaker 1: for six games. You know, I mean that him playing

1003
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:07,839
Speaker 1: in games. I mean he basically came out and said,

1004
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:10,440
Speaker 1: asking Hi, about what was he fifty third on the

1005
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:13,000
Speaker 1: top one hundred player list. He goes him is six

1006
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:16,080
Speaker 1: games almost have a thousand yards? You know? I mean

1007
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:19,839
Speaker 1: that's that? Yeah. Well, no, I'm just but but I'm

1008
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:23,160
Speaker 1: just saying though, he I think I like if there

1009
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:25,879
Speaker 1: was some remorse about how it went down last year

1010
00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:28,960
Speaker 1: and the and the reward for him now from the

1011
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:32,439
Speaker 1: coaches is Okay, listen, we do trust you. We think

1012
00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 1: you can be a leader, we think you can may

1013
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:36,719
Speaker 1: be a difference maker. I think this is his way

1014
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:39,839
Speaker 1: of bringing him back in. He was a little bit

1015
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:42,480
Speaker 1: on the outside last year. And you know, but everybody

1016
00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:45,760
Speaker 1: loves Zeke. I don't know anybody that doesn't. Yeah, teammates

1017
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:47,719
Speaker 1: love him. And I will say one one way he

1018
00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:52,239
Speaker 1: does lead is on the field. Physical. He's gonna bring

1019
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:54,200
Speaker 1: it every single time he's out there. I think guys

1020
00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:58,600
Speaker 1: follow that physical tone and that's important, you know. So

1021
00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:01,080
Speaker 1: that's another way to lead. You don't always have to

1022
00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:03,399
Speaker 1: be the vocal guy. But obviously taking care of off

1023
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:05,840
Speaker 1: the field business. Every leader, every if you're gonna be

1024
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:07,279
Speaker 1: a leader on a team, everybody has to do that,

1025
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:12,120
Speaker 1: no question. Well, he's so lucky the draft class he

1026
00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:14,359
Speaker 1: came in, they're good class. I mean you look at

1027
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:17,680
Speaker 1: guys like Jalen Smith. You have to follow his lead

1028
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:19,880
Speaker 1: of just everything he's done just to get back onto

1029
00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:23,560
Speaker 1: the field. Yeah yeah, I mean yeah, this is Dak's team.

1030
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:26,000
Speaker 1: This is Zeke's team. Now, I mean there is no

1031
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:29,160
Speaker 1: Jason Witten anymore. So if the best young players on

1032
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:31,799
Speaker 1: this team have to have a larger role in the

1033
00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:34,799
Speaker 1: locker room, and that includes Zeke for sure includes Zeke,

1034
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:39,000
Speaker 1: that includes Zack Martins, that includes the Byron Jones. Yeah,

1035
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:41,879
Speaker 1: it's all of a sudden, this team is very, very young.

1036
00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:44,279
Speaker 1: It's it's really incredible. I've been meaning I need to

1037
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:46,880
Speaker 1: go back and see, like where it ranks. It's just

1038
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:49,880
Speaker 1: an average age because it's it's a lot of second

1039
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:54,560
Speaker 1: and third years guysperience. Well, now you're starting quarterback has

1040
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:56,319
Speaker 1: started a lot of games in the league. Now for

1041
00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:59,400
Speaker 1: being twenty four years old, that's good. But you shook

1042
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:04,919
Speaker 1: your head. Yeah, well yeah, they they're they're young. But

1043
00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:09,560
Speaker 1: these guys have played. Yeah, yeah, you know, Dak he's

1044
00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:13,160
Speaker 1: played thirty two games. Zeke's played. Dak's played, Zeke's played

1045
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:19,840
Speaker 1: what sixteen and ten? Yeah, Collins has played. Collins has played.

1046
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:24,840
Speaker 1: You look at now once you get healthy played, Xavier

1047
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:27,960
Speaker 1: Woods played, Brown's played. They've all they've all played. So

1048
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:31,120
Speaker 1: some spots you're gonna have some guys that haven't. Of course,

1049
00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:33,360
Speaker 1: the you know, if the starting mic linebacker happens to

1050
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:36,400
Speaker 1: be Vandersch, right, but but if whoever they play at

1051
00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:39,640
Speaker 1: SAM linebacker, if it whether it's Jalen Smith or Wilson

1052
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Speaker 1: Wilson's played a lot for a young guy, and the

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Speaker 1: offensive line it's played. Yeah, if Connor Williams wins the job, okay, fine,

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Speaker 1: But at least the backup tackle now has played in

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. So your depths there is much better

1056
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Speaker 1: off than what you, I guess projected you had, which

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Speaker 1: didn't work out so well. This the one position I

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Speaker 1: keep going back to is this receiving group. That's the

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Speaker 1: one I think we're gonna have to figure out. Well.

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Speaker 1: I think we're gonna have to say, you haven't had

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Speaker 1: to worry about in a while. Yeah, who are the

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Speaker 1: best five? I mean, I'm not saying right now we

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Speaker 1: have to just throw out five names. But I think

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Speaker 1: when we get to Oxnard and it show you know

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Speaker 1: it show fifteen, it show eighteen, it shows you know

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Speaker 1: we're down to it. We're going, Okay, what do we

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Speaker 1: learn about this receiving crew? Jeff trouble ranking them last week?

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Speaker 1: I put Beasley at number one. I did too well.

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Speaker 1: You know, you look at where we were this dot

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Speaker 1: com by the way, yeah it's there. I remember there

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Speaker 1: being a discussion about what they we're gonna do with receiver.

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Speaker 1: They had so many I mean Andy Jones was the

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Speaker 1: name that you're like, does he stay on? At this

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Speaker 1: point last year, Lucky Whitehead was still on the team.

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Speaker 1: You know, young guys were not gonna make this rock

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Speaker 1: the whole thing with with Noah Brown. Noah Brown was

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Speaker 1: a Bryce Butler. He was gonna be Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 1: there was it was it kind of a group of

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Speaker 1: guys that you're like, Okay, we've got the four, who's

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Speaker 1: the fifth one or who's the sixth one? And now

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Speaker 1: you're kind of like, okay, we've got two or three.

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Speaker 1: Who are the other three? Yeah? You know, and you

1083
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Speaker 1: don't have to count Austin in that group necessarily, right,

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Speaker 1: you know? So yeah, but who else can Lance Lenoor

1085
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Speaker 1: break through? See? That's that's the guy I always talk about,

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Speaker 1: that's my my Lance leanr. Because of Will mcclay's relationship

1087
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Speaker 1: with him is like, you know, I'd like to see

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Speaker 1: him do something. There might be it. There might be

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Speaker 1: a surprise guy that we don't think about, like that,

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Speaker 1: the Lance Lenore guy that we that that comes in

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00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:40,799
Speaker 1: and it's like, well, what Cedric Wilson. I mean I'm

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Speaker 1: not giving Cedria. I mean I'm kind of just kind

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Speaker 1: of pooh pooh and Cedric Wilson, right, I know, and

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Speaker 1: he's got he and he's got he's got a lot

1095
00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:49,879
Speaker 1: of ability and and so, okay, do you carry five

1096
00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:52,520
Speaker 1: wide receivers? Wait a minut we're carrying three quarterbacks? Now, well,

1097
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Speaker 1: how many tight ends we're gonna carry weight? You gotta

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Speaker 1: carry Rico. No, we're not gonna carry Rico. We're carrying

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Speaker 1: three tight ends. You get you kind of get into

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Speaker 1: who a numbers a numbers game with some of these positions.

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Speaker 1: And I'm not necessarily sinking it might be that whoever

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Speaker 1: doesn't make this team probably made it because they just

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00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:14,439
Speaker 1: weren't good enough. It wasn't because which is a great

1104
00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:16,920
Speaker 1: problem to have. Well, it's a great you want him

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Speaker 1: to be good, but you want to be able to

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Speaker 1: say you want to be able to say. Man, we

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Speaker 1: had a really tough decision. We got seven we got

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Speaker 1: seven receivers for five positions, instead of okay, we've got

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Speaker 1: seven receivers and we were only going to take these four.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, who was on the waiver wire today? Ye?

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Speaker 1: Who was? Who can we trade for? Who is there

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Speaker 1: somebody as Yeah? Who do we need to work out?

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Speaker 1: You know? Yeah? And be and be aware of Earl

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Speaker 1: if he can play like he did in this season

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Speaker 1: open or against Missouri. Yeah, Malik Earl, Earl, Yeah. I

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Speaker 1: can't believe I sat there at the TV just cussing.

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Speaker 1: Eighty nine yard touchdown on third and twenty four. Welcome

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Speaker 1: Missouri football man. What a hanger. Well, if you guys

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Speaker 1: didn't realize you had just joined us for an hour

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Speaker 1: of talking Cowboys, We will be back next week, Final

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Speaker 1: OTS week, and then we get into mini camp. So

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Speaker 1: join us in our last few episodes before training camp.

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