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Speaker 1: Debo Harrison. I'm here with my co host Joe Hayden. Hey,
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Speaker 1: I'm doing good, brother, Deebo.
Speaker 2: Another day talking to my good man, chopping it up
Speaker 2: about this good football.
Speaker 1: How you doing, brother, I'm doing I'm doing extremely good man,
Speaker 1: extremely good. Just go ahead and jump onto this man.
Speaker 1: The Patriots went on ahead and beat the Jets. Uh
Speaker 1: was at twenty seven or fourteen? And lied to you, brother,
Speaker 1: I didn't think it was gonna be that close for
Speaker 1: me either. I'm absolutely surprised, especially with you know how
Speaker 1: I started off like they won the toss and actually
Speaker 1: was like, Yo, we're taking the ball, were about to go,
Speaker 1: We're about to go run this ball and do what
Speaker 1: we gotta do and score.
Speaker 3: Dude. They come out the gate.
Speaker 1: First play, they gone ahead, hit a quick for SI,
Speaker 1: they got third and one. You know, they really just
Speaker 1: staying ahead of the change the whole time. They get eleven.
Speaker 1: I think Fields ended up scrambling the next play, and
Speaker 1: I think he scrambled again for like fifteen or something.
Speaker 3: Yes, Bro, he was using his legs, him and Bryce Hall. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: The next third down, I think it was like third
Speaker 1: and five. Like I said, they kept everything close. They
Speaker 1: end up picking up that hot little seven, you know,
Speaker 1: and then I don't know the what was that the
Speaker 1: receiver pass? Like, why would you break that up with
Speaker 1: trying to do that? The fields, Like, I don't understand.
Speaker 1: I thought they was gonna kill him, you know, the
Speaker 1: momentum right there. Yeah, yeah, but they ended up able
Speaker 1: to pick up I think it was ten the on
Speaker 1: that third down, and then I think Fields ended up
Speaker 1: running and then.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like you on that first drive they got ended
Speaker 2: up getting a touchdown. That was impressive because they hadn't
Speaker 2: been doing too much nothing.
Speaker 3: I was.
Speaker 2: I was happy with Fields being able to create some
Speaker 2: stuff using his legs, Bryce haul Benmu's arm, and then
Speaker 2: on the touchdown, you just saw his athleticism. He didn't
Speaker 2: make the right play withdrawing that thing back but faster.
Speaker 2: He's just more athletic than the outside linebacker. He was
Speaker 2: in great position and just able to beat him to
Speaker 2: the polne So, like you said, I wasn't expecting too
Speaker 2: much from the Jets. Oh, but that was good to
Speaker 2: see for them.
Speaker 1: Oh, no quest, dude, they used up what was it
Speaker 1: a little over eight minutes on the padri dude.
Speaker 2: Walked it down. That's the way you do it. Like
Speaker 2: you said, staying ahead of the sticks was the biggest thing.
Speaker 3: They didn't really get too much be high. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: no question, New England.
Speaker 1: They get back out there and uh, they kind of
Speaker 1: did what I expected, you know.
Speaker 3: I think it was second in ten.
Speaker 1: You know, he ended up hitting digs for like eight
Speaker 1: and then they get that unnecessary roughness on that same
Speaker 1: play for him slamming.
Speaker 3: Dude. That's why I was saying, dude, I ain't know.
Speaker 1: That wouldn't get even Pierre, Yeah, that wouldn't even agree
Speaker 1: just on that one, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and they you know, they do the same thing, you know,
Speaker 1: trying to stay ahead of the sticks. They get a
Speaker 1: seven yard run and then end up getting a loss
Speaker 1: on that next play. I think like two downs two
Speaker 1: yards sorry, and the fourth down they gone ahead and
Speaker 1: fourth and two they put it in.
Speaker 3: They put it in old Drake hands. He connected for seven. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think he had a little scramble too get on
Speaker 1: second down for what about four or five mm. Yeah, poised, bro,
Speaker 1: He looked poised to me the whole time. The control unbelievable, dude, Henderson.
Speaker 1: Henderson is doing good, dude.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he ran completely over that safety on that that
Speaker 1: on that first down, bro. Yes, he did, like completely
Speaker 1: over and then later you know, went to score at
Speaker 1: the touchdown. I think it was like seven yards or
Speaker 1: something like that. I think they almost used up like
Speaker 1: seven and a half minutes on their drive.
Speaker 3: Bro.
Speaker 2: The first two drives took up the first then in
Speaker 2: the first quarter it was it was the whole first quarter.
Speaker 3: On the first quarter they got drive drive touchdown. You
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. So offenses playing, offenses playing well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, just get back out there, and Patriots
Speaker 1: defense tightened up a little bit. They don't let him
Speaker 1: get nothing on that first down, so they're behind and changed.
Speaker 1: I think that was when they went for the pass
Speaker 1: on the second down, fields through it like lowing outside,
Speaker 1: so dude really couldn't adjust to get to it.
Speaker 3: That put him behind. They end up punting the ball.
Speaker 1: New England come back out and then I think on
Speaker 1: that first play he hit he hit the tight end
Speaker 1: Henry for like twenty twenty five, something like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the play actionally ate them up right there for real,
Speaker 3: for real. Yeah, it was.
Speaker 2: The first like you said, they was able to get
Speaker 2: back out there and just drive it down again.
Speaker 3: They look smooth the whole time they first drive like.
Speaker 3: It looked easy.
Speaker 1: It look it looked really You know what, man, it's
Speaker 1: something that that kind of worried me, Like that second
Speaker 1: down where May took off of that scramble. His slide
Speaker 1: game is trash, dude.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: If he don't if he don't learn how to get down, man,
Speaker 1: somebody go catch you.
Speaker 3: Nah.
Speaker 2: It dealt for Shure for sure, because he's not the
Speaker 2: most athletic guy. He looks like he's about to get
Speaker 2: smacked when he's running, so you want him to get
Speaker 2: down quickly.
Speaker 1: Old dude. Like his slide even the first one where
Speaker 1: he scrambled. His slide game was bad like.
Speaker 3: This one, like, dude could have he could have shot
Speaker 3: on him, but he didn't. Yeah, no, didn't.
Speaker 1: I think he hit Henry again on the third down
Speaker 1: for about twelve and then uh what was it the
Speaker 1: second down? I think it was dude, he worked the
Speaker 1: pocket there. He didn't do nothing.
Speaker 3: Who was it Hollisey hit for nineteen.
Speaker 1: Yep, Bro, I'm like, this dude is really and then
Speaker 1: again the next play was twenty for Hollys. Yes, Bro,
Speaker 1: he's poised in the pocket. He's poised Henderson, he went
Speaker 1: on here and got him another who seven yard touchdown
Speaker 1: for sure. Yeah, it was seven seven and seven. They
Speaker 1: go up fourteen seven to just get up out of there.
Speaker 1: I think they ended up having a positive run on
Speaker 1: the first down, like they were staying ahead of the change,
Speaker 1: and then I think it was like a one yard
Speaker 1: pass or something. And then the third down the receiver, dude,
Speaker 1: he just dropped the ball. Yes, yeah, he just dropped
Speaker 1: the ball.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 1: Like then when you got times where he's you know,
Speaker 1: he's putting it in the people's hands, they're not dropping it,
Speaker 1: and then times where guys are open and he's just
Speaker 1: not getting it there.
Speaker 3: That that debo.
Speaker 2: That's the thing where you're not a good enough offensive
Speaker 2: team to waste those downs. Like if you're the Lions,
Speaker 2: you got you're gonna make it supposed to plays every
Speaker 2: down there's a chance for you to score. When you're
Speaker 2: playing on this team, you got to stay ahead of
Speaker 2: the sticks. You don't have nobody that's going to take
Speaker 2: it to the house. When they get it. You can't
Speaker 2: miss those passes. And then when people right when it
Speaker 2: hits you in the hands, it's like, god, man, we
Speaker 2: can't win for losing. Like, if we do have it,
Speaker 2: we got to catch it. We can't waste that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, you ain't gonna get back out there.
Speaker 1: They do a little something. But I want to talk
Speaker 1: about that third down. He almost gave digs one of
Speaker 1: them with you called him blue tent balls.
Speaker 3: Yes, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And it wouldn't even matter if he had caught it
Speaker 1: because I think they got a hold on that that
Speaker 1: the Jets declined.
Speaker 3: He would have he tried to give him a protocol ball.
Speaker 1: Oh man, dude, they end up punting the rock. The
Speaker 1: Jets get back out there. I think that was when
Speaker 1: they did like a three and out. Yeah it was
Speaker 1: three and out something like that.
Speaker 3: The ball.
Speaker 1: But I think that was again a where like a
Speaker 1: third down where Justin could have Yes, he threw it
Speaker 1: like off behind him. He could have placed the ball better,
Speaker 1: Like if he had put it like on him, he
Speaker 1: wouldn't have had to try and adjust. I think that
Speaker 1: was like he was doing that little trying to turn
Speaker 1: with that little circus catch.
Speaker 3: He couldn't adjust to that thing.
Speaker 2: He gotta put that, but he gotta he gotta throw.
Speaker 3: A better ball on that one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we ain't even get back out there. I think
Speaker 1: the Jets ended up having twelve men on the field
Speaker 1: to first play, and then I think what was it
Speaker 1: a hole and pennel they ended up getting.
Speaker 3: Later on and they had a.
Speaker 1: No Jet sacked ing and then that's what happened, Jet
Speaker 1: sacked in but it got took away because hey, man,
Speaker 1: dude was having a rough night over there. Man, all
Speaker 1: the whole infueneralies and all the other stuff he.
Speaker 3: Had going on.
Speaker 1: Yes, dude was having a rough night. Man Like, this
Speaker 1: is just the first that just started off with that, dude.
Speaker 1: And then you know again man, like may like the
Speaker 1: next play twenty seven, I think that was it. That's
Speaker 1: when Nope, that's when they attempted the field goal when
Speaker 1: they missed it. Yeah, they missed the field goal, bro, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was ended up.
Speaker 3: What was it? Halftime was fourteen seven? Yep? Sounding about right,
Speaker 3: Yeah for sure. And then New England got the ball.
Speaker 1: They went back out there, and they I don't think
Speaker 1: they did anything with it their first possession out and
Speaker 1: then later on Jet's got back out. They really did not.
Speaker 1: I think they had a unnecessary roughness on that third
Speaker 1: down that pushed him back a little bit. Yeah, because
Speaker 1: that was when the punter ended up doing a little
Speaker 1: little short punt and they they got the ball back
Speaker 1: and you know, May started doing doing some May things
Speaker 1: like I think he hit Hollis for seventeen on the
Speaker 1: first one. A couple of plays later, I think it
Speaker 1: was digs for like twenty Yep. Again, dude, he was
Speaker 1: working the pocket like he I don't know how he
Speaker 1: didn't panic like he got good.
Speaker 3: He got good, he got good pocket presence.
Speaker 1: Bro. He looked too like that advanced like that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's why I think he digs again. That was eighteen.
Speaker 3: Right after that, my boy did had a hunting ball, y'all. Yeah.
Speaker 1: They ended up finishing with a touchdown Henderson Again, it's
Speaker 1: twenty one seven. I'm thinking things about to get open
Speaker 1: right here. But just get back out there, and somehow
Speaker 1: they go ahead get them a touchdown again. I think
Speaker 1: they were staying you know that next thing, they were
Speaker 1: staying ahead of the change. I think they had a
Speaker 1: big play on that one too. I think third down
Speaker 1: they ended up completing one for a little over twenty
Speaker 1: where the dB ended up falling. Yep, that got him
Speaker 1: fourteen twenty one. And then New England came out and
Speaker 1: I thought it was gonna be like, Okay, Jet's gonna
Speaker 1: have a chance to come back because the first play
Speaker 1: was a hole. So now you you first and twenty.
Speaker 1: I think it was you didn't gain nothing on the
Speaker 1: second play, so on that first down. Actually after that
Speaker 1: first down went the first and twenty, so it was
Speaker 1: like second and twenty, and he made another play to
Speaker 1: the tight end was getting him some stuff. Dude, he
Speaker 1: got team, he got like half of it back on
Speaker 1: that point and then the uh what was that? That
Speaker 1: was when dude ended up didn't tap Yeah he didn't
Speaker 1: tap down.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he didn't tap him down. He got up and
Speaker 3: been able to make the play when he caught it.
Speaker 3: It didn't matter. It was still gonna be your first down.
Speaker 2: It was, but that you just showed like you got
Speaker 2: That's that's nflu a dB.
Speaker 3: That's what you learn. You know what I'm saying. It's
Speaker 3: not college football.
Speaker 1: On his touch on yeah, because y'all ended up getting
Speaker 1: the shot and they went they had to attempt to.
Speaker 3: Forty was it forty five forty six yard field goal
Speaker 3: something like that? H yeah, they yeah, you ghet that one.
Speaker 3: It was what fourteen to twenty four?
Speaker 1: Then I think they just get back out there basically
Speaker 1: do a little bit of nothing. I mean, Fields made
Speaker 1: a great pay on that third down to get the first,
Speaker 1: but that.
Speaker 3: Was really it. They ended up throwing and what was
Speaker 3: it a negative two.
Speaker 1: To three yard screen and then they're completion punk the
Speaker 1: ball back to New England and I think the first
Speaker 1: play they had like twenty twenty five of digs that
Speaker 1: ended up helping him out. The next play was like
Speaker 1: a negative what was it five yard run? Was that
Speaker 1: a receiver run or something? I think it was. They
Speaker 1: ended up punting the ball back to the Jets and
Speaker 1: the Jets get the low snap. Instead of him just
Speaker 1: dropping down on the ball, he tried to pick it up,
Speaker 1: bumble it. New England goes ahead recovers it from there.
Speaker 1: I thought that was gonna score a touchdown. I don't
Speaker 1: know how do what was that at like the ten
Speaker 1: eleven twelve something like that, Yes, And they end up
Speaker 1: holding them, they get a field goal. I mean it
Speaker 1: still was like almost seven minutes left.
Speaker 3: By end, they had had an opportunity, I guess you
Speaker 3: could say.
Speaker 1: And they come back out there and I think they
Speaker 1: sacked fields on the first play. Second down, I think
Speaker 1: he completed one for like maybe ten or eleven something
Speaker 1: like that, and then third down. You know, I don't
Speaker 1: know how he avoided that sack where he avoided that
Speaker 1: sack bro like getting he scrambled for the first time.
Speaker 3: I thought, so that was it. That was the one,
Speaker 3: because it's.
Speaker 1: The fourth now and it's only what sixth seven minutes
Speaker 1: left something like that at the beginning of when they
Speaker 1: started to drive, and then I think he ended up
Speaker 1: getting like one for eighteen. He scrambled for another one
Speaker 1: and then what was it, what was it the you know,
Speaker 1: it was a sack, and then they ended up going
Speaker 1: ahead and had an incomplettion turnover downs.
Speaker 3: It's really over with after that.
Speaker 2: Man, that game devot once it got to the twenty
Speaker 2: seven fourteen I ain't really even peeped at.
Speaker 3: Going a lot to you, I gotta cut that joke
Speaker 3: off the vote. Yeah, I'm like, yeah, it's you know,
Speaker 3: it's over with man.
Speaker 1: It's it's a done. It's a done deal. Man, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it ain't. Ain't it ain't nothing else that they could do.
Speaker 1: They could do to help man the Patriots. Dude, like
Speaker 1: Drake may though, he has elevated his game. That's like
Speaker 1: you look at last year his total numbers. Last year,
Speaker 1: I think he was just under twenty three hundred yards,
Speaker 1: fifteen touchdowns with ten picks, bro, Like he had ten picks.
Speaker 1: This year already he had a little over twenty eight hundred.
Speaker 1: He got twenty touchdowns, only five interceptions, like almost a
Speaker 1: six percent increase in his completion racial plus like two
Speaker 1: almost two plus more yards per attempt. Like his passer
Speaker 1: rating is out of control. He's up over twenty five
Speaker 1: percent from last year. Last year he was like eighty eight.
Speaker 1: This year he won thirteen. His pocket awareness, his intelligence,
Speaker 1: like his consistency and being able to get like the
Speaker 1: ball to people, especially under pressure, like with people in
Speaker 1: his face. It's dude, it's unbelievable. Like it's no way
Speaker 1: he is not MVP if he continued this.
Speaker 3: Dude, no for sure.
Speaker 2: I mean he been leading a team the nine and two,
Speaker 2: and I love that. The fact that I think also
Speaker 2: the coaching staff, Mike Grable and then Josh McDaniels. He
Speaker 2: might not have been the best head coach, but offensive
Speaker 2: coordinator wise, being able to talk to the quarterback, being
Speaker 2: able to have a relationship with May. Because May looks
Speaker 2: comfortable back there. He looks like he's dropping back when
Speaker 2: he hits that back foot. He knows where to go
Speaker 2: with it. He knows where he wants to go. He's
Speaker 2: looking like he's reading the defenses, so it looks it
Speaker 2: looks like it looks like a whole team game. He
Speaker 2: looks comfortable, So I'm loving the way that the Patriots
Speaker 2: are looking. And then at the same time, on the
Speaker 2: defensive side of the ball, that corner they got Gonzales
Speaker 2: and just dudes running around making plays.
Speaker 3: You don't see people kind of running.
Speaker 2: Scot Free Fields was able to run around because he's
Speaker 2: got speed, he was able to use his legs. But
Speaker 2: yards wise, like they didn't really do too much, you
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. And then just the comfortability of
Speaker 2: when New England's out there on offense, just trying to
Speaker 2: get it done. May's not making mistakes, He's getting the
Speaker 2: ball where it needs to be done, getting the ball hinder,
Speaker 2: a trade rookie, like if you're getting that type performance
Speaker 2: from your back too. And then when I'm looking at
Speaker 2: the receivers, dig had one hundred yards. They got the
Speaker 2: receiver number thirteen. My man, it doesn't really wear shoes.
Speaker 2: He's out there. He's out there balling. So it is
Speaker 2: not like the best of the best, like you don't
Speaker 2: have like, uh, they don't have a Jamar Chase and
Speaker 2: the T Higgins.
Speaker 3: He's throwing it to just some.
Speaker 2: Guys that are in good spots, running good routes.
Speaker 3: He's putting out stop playing. No, No, I'm not knocking
Speaker 3: digs like Diggs is number one.
Speaker 2: But Diggs is like you would you said, Diggs is
Speaker 2: like Jamar Chase right now in his career. You know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, Like he's a great, great receiver. He's
Speaker 2: gonna be on point doing this thing like he's doing
Speaker 2: right now. But I'm just saying, like they don't have crazy,
Speaker 2: crazy receivers out there. But Drake May's putting the ball
Speaker 2: on the point. The dudes are making plays, they're running
Speaker 2: the right routes, they're not dropping the ball when it
Speaker 2: hits them in the hands. You know what, I'm saying, So,
Speaker 2: I just let the way the Patriots are working and
Speaker 2: Josh McDaniels and the coach Mike was Mike Gravel, they've
Speaker 2: been doing a great job.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think him coming back helped really helped improve
Speaker 1: that defense. They're giving up I think just under or
Speaker 1: over three hundred yards a game, where last year they
Speaker 1: were almost at like four to twenty. So yeah, that's
Speaker 1: a that's a great improvement when you think about the Jets.
Speaker 1: Speaking of improvement the Jets, yeah, they tried some trouble. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: just in trouble, right, they need to they need to
Speaker 1: figure out.
Speaker 2: And then they just got rid of their best players
Speaker 2: on defense, they got rid of you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 2: They got rid of my Mans Sauce and Quinn Williams.
Speaker 2: And then on the receiver side, on offensive side of
Speaker 2: the ball, I mean you got justin fields, he's thrown
Speaker 2: for this. I love fields, but sometimes you throw for
Speaker 2: twenty seven yards, forty five yards, fifty four yards, you
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. That's just not what an NFL
Speaker 2: quarterbacks yard is supposed to look like, you know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying. Yeah, and now it doesn't what's what's my
Speaker 2: man name? The receiver number five? They're the best one. Wilson,
Speaker 2: he's he's out, he's on IR So I don't I
Speaker 2: don't know what's going on with Yeah, it's looked kind
Speaker 2: of bad over there.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: They The biggest thing I think for them is, especially
Speaker 1: right now, they got to stay ahead of the sticks.
Speaker 1: They don't stay ahead of the sticks. They don't have
Speaker 1: the ability to get trunk plays. I think he's last
Speaker 1: in airtime yards. They're not really throwing the ball down
Speaker 1: the field. They're not protecting anym well, you know, it's
Speaker 1: it's a lot of you know things that's going on there.
Speaker 1: Rather it's him being able to get the ball there,
Speaker 1: and then when he gets the ball there, they drop
Speaker 1: the ball. They can't afford to miss the opportunities to
Speaker 1: catch those things and come back from it because they're
Speaker 1: not built, not good enough.
Speaker 3: You know, it's cool to.
Speaker 1: Be, you know, wanting to rush and all that, but
Speaker 1: you know you're dead last and that you can't you
Speaker 1: can't make that up.
Speaker 3: That's that's that's extremely hard to make up. Yeah, I
Speaker 3: wish you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so speaking of just right here still, Yeah, we play, Yeah,
Speaker 1: we played. I ain't gonna say. I ain't gonna say Bungles
Speaker 1: because I said I said that last time, and they've.
Speaker 3: The lesson around and deal with say they have to do.
Speaker 1: We play, we play the strong, bego Cincinnati Bengals, Cincinnati Bing.
Speaker 3: What we're gonna do is put some respect on their name.
Speaker 3: We're gonna put some respect on their name.
Speaker 1: But what we really need to do to win this
Speaker 1: game is simple. It's simple. What we need to do
Speaker 1: to win this.
Speaker 3: Game now, we have to stop the run period.
Speaker 1: We gave up one hundred and forty plus yards last time,
Speaker 1: and we have to sack Joe Flacco, not pressure him.
Speaker 1: We have to sack him because Joe will stand in
Speaker 1: the pocket and throw that thing.
Speaker 3: All right, Yes he's not. He's not going to be
Speaker 3: a dude that's gon shake out the pocket and get
Speaker 3: off on us. So hey, listen, take some liberties in
Speaker 3: that past game.
Speaker 1: Because if we go and we sacked Joe, then we
Speaker 1: don't let Jamar Chase get one hundred and.
Speaker 3: Sixty plus on us. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Else we need to do is don't be leaving our
Speaker 1: dbs out there one on one on this dude all
Speaker 1: the time, like we used to have a defense with
Speaker 1: Coach the Bolts there it was called double the Stars. Yes, sir,
Speaker 1: I know about them.
Speaker 3: Guys.
Speaker 1: Okay, that means that you take away that as long
Speaker 1: as your past rush is there and getting there.
Speaker 3: It negates all of that.
Speaker 1: Like we have to play situationally better when it counts,
Speaker 1: and offensively, we need to run the ball. It opens
Speaker 1: up the run game. The Bengals defense are still last, yes,
Speaker 1: and second to last in the past.
Speaker 3: We have to take advantage of that. Debo.
Speaker 2: You speaking facts, my brother, You're speaking straight facts right now.
Speaker 2: Because what we need to do is the defense. We
Speaker 2: got to be able to double the stars, like you said,
Speaker 2: we have to be able to take away the past
Speaker 2: with We can't lie and just sit here and act
Speaker 2: like Jamar Chase and t Higgins aren't amazing and make it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, make it.
Speaker 1: No no, no, no, no, son, make the players, but
Speaker 1: you can't let them take over the game.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, Depo, we're saying the same thing. That's
Speaker 2: why I'm saying. I'm acknowledging that you have to double
Speaker 2: the star. So when I'm saying with our run game,
Speaker 2: we have to stop the run game with our linebackers
Speaker 2: and d line knowing at the end of the day,
Speaker 2: if you stop this shit on first down, we got
Speaker 2: to stay ahead of the six to know we're doubling
Speaker 2: stars and not gonna be able to just Joe Flacco.
Speaker 2: He's throwing the ball to two people, Higgins and Jamar Chase.
Speaker 2: Those are the dudes averaging touchdowns. Jamar Chase has five
Speaker 2: touchdowns since Flacco has been out there, and Higgins has six.
Speaker 2: He's thrown twelve. He's thrown one touchdowns to other people,
Speaker 2: so he's getting them dudes the rock. Chase is averaging
Speaker 2: ninety yards a game, so our front seven needs to
Speaker 2: stop the run game, stop Chase Brown be able to
Speaker 2: get us in second, along third and longs to where
Speaker 2: now we know we're doubling these stars, get after them.
Speaker 2: TJ now HEISMI. If you have your opportunity, if you
Speaker 2: don't win first and second down, it's we can't really
Speaker 2: get you to go go get them now. We put
Speaker 2: him in predictable knowing has passed the situations. We're gonna
Speaker 2: double Higgins, We're gonna double Jamar Chase. Other dudes, y'all
Speaker 2: gotta get open. We gotta lock that up. And Tej
Speaker 2: high Smith get after him. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 2: So like you sack him, hit him, you know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying, make him feel you. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 2: Strip sacks.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. So I'm with you.
Speaker 2: We definitely need to stop the run with just our front,
Speaker 2: knowing like they can't run on us because on the outside,
Speaker 2: our corners and safety, we're gonna need to be able
Speaker 2: to double them, duse and take away their best players
Speaker 2: because a bomb got to stop the run. Front, someven
Speaker 2: gotta stop the run, and we're gonna be able to
Speaker 2: have to. Our db' is gonna have to double up
Speaker 2: and stand up versus d not just saying single coverage.
Speaker 3: That's not realistic if we.
Speaker 2: Let you double them a couple of times, you know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, play some zones underneath, like situational situationally, Yes,
Speaker 2: so we're speaking the same thing. On offensive side of
Speaker 2: the ball, I run the ball, be able to start
Speaker 2: ahead of the sticks, be able to now a rock
Speaker 2: can under the.
Speaker 1: Rock, and keep the defense on the field. We keep
Speaker 1: our defense off the field, right. You need to control
Speaker 1: the time of possession. Yes, I don't really care. The
Speaker 1: defense need to do what the defense is supposed to do.
Speaker 1: We ain't spend all this money for nothing, then, you
Speaker 1: know what, because I know they go do it. Joe,
Speaker 1: We're giving away four tickets, yes, two, two sets to
Speaker 1: two to the game this Sunday. You know what you
Speaker 1: gotta do, follow Joe myself like and subscribe to Debo
Speaker 1: and Joe and we will pick the winner on Saturday
Speaker 1: because we want you there to see us go ahead
Speaker 1: and get our get back.
Speaker 2: Got to because we lost the first game and we
Speaker 2: gotta go get that get back.
Speaker 3: Gotta get that get back, got to gotta get that
Speaker 3: get back. Fact, matter of fact.
Speaker 1: No, I ain't gonna say nothing yet yet yet, ye yet,
Speaker 1: yeah yet.
Speaker 3: Let's go on here and stay over here.
Speaker 1: And let's go ahead and stay over here or you know,
Speaker 1: in the LC right here with on the north, they said,
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson over way to bro They said, he said
Speaker 1: he the most overady the quarterback.
Speaker 3: Who said who said who said? Who said? Who said that?
Speaker 3: Said that? Stupid?
Speaker 1: Hey, that's a that's a garbage mouth lie. That's they
Speaker 1: may be talking about just sitting in the pocket, not
Speaker 1: being able to use none of your other talents.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't he could still throw the rock too, I
Speaker 1: mean he still I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: So I believe I believe your Browns are are are
Speaker 1: playing the Ravens. So Joe, what what do your Browns
Speaker 1: need to do to uh beat the Ravens?
Speaker 3: I actually I'm actually rooting for y'all this time.
Speaker 2: Huh well, uh, first things first, we need to it
Speaker 2: sounds like we need to do. We need to control.
Speaker 2: We need to run the ball first, be able to
Speaker 2: run the ball. We need to get juggins going. We
Speaker 2: need to be ahead of the sticks all the same.
Speaker 2: It's like a like when your office isn't good. What
Speaker 2: you need to do is stay ahead of the sticks.
Speaker 2: Make sure your run game is solid. Make sure you
Speaker 2: don't put yourself in long third down situations. Because Dylan
Speaker 2: Gabriel has shown that he can't really throw the rock
Speaker 2: too well. So what we need to do is stay
Speaker 2: ahead of the sticks defense. You got a ball out obviously,
Speaker 2: we need to turnovers. We need to stop the run.
Speaker 2: We need to create turnovers. We need to put our
Speaker 2: offense in short fields to try to get them to
Speaker 2: be able to not have to.
Speaker 3: Go that far to get points.
Speaker 2: So it's gonna be a game where defense you can't
Speaker 2: you can't really give up anything because at the end
Speaker 2: of the day, I don't trust our offense too much.
Speaker 3: So offense in the end of.
Speaker 2: Us Braven's defense has been playing better. They've been standing
Speaker 2: up a little bit more so, and Lamar's back healthy.
Speaker 2: They've been coming off of their role and they won
Speaker 2: their last four. So I mean we.
Speaker 3: What we need to do.
Speaker 2: Our defense has to play out of their minds. Offense
Speaker 2: got to run the ball and basically that's.
Speaker 1: Our only that's our only hope, that's your only go
Speaker 1: So you ain't too happy, you need too encourage that
Speaker 1: they're going to be able to do this.
Speaker 3: This is what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: This would be a game that we mess around and win.
Speaker 2: We always find a way to do some wild stuff.
Speaker 2: That's something that to you, you know, when you suspected
Speaker 2: we come out there and get it up. I'm not mad.
Speaker 2: I think the effort's going to be there. I'm just
Speaker 2: worried about end of the day when we do get
Speaker 2: that ball on offense, I don't I just don't want
Speaker 2: He's been throwing the ball into the third lot you
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, like we gotta get I mean,
Speaker 2: he said once he had one hundred and sixty seven
Speaker 2: yards and two touchdowns with no picks last week, and
Speaker 2: everybody was saying that was a good game. I don't
Speaker 2: want to talk crazy because he didn't have zero picks.
Speaker 2: But there's been when you throw a screen pass like
Speaker 2: a throwback over the man's head out of bounds and
Speaker 2: he could have just caught the joint, like like, that's
Speaker 2: just a bad pass.
Speaker 3: Nobody was on you. I just see too many just
Speaker 3: you could have made that pass easy, Debo. I would
Speaker 3: have hit him right. Just you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You see you feel you feel you hear that, you
Speaker 1: hear that anger, that rising your voice.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I don't I was feeling too until I really was.
Speaker 1: I don't get that in the other side.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm the only person there when when
Speaker 1: it's we, when it's the stealers, But when is y'all?
Speaker 2: Because you know, because I would saying, because I really
Speaker 2: believe that the stealers are about to go out there
Speaker 2: and they should spank Flack though and.
Speaker 3: That's gonna be a good time.
Speaker 2: And it's really exciting because I think that's really gonna
Speaker 2: happen with the Browns right now. I just I'm kind
Speaker 2: of like, I'm hurt a little bit. Mur I'm hurt,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 3: What I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Looking, I know my boys are out there are trying
Speaker 2: to fight them, but I'm like, God, it's just it's
Speaker 2: bad over there right now.
Speaker 3: I'm just a little sad, speaking of me.
Speaker 1: The NFL filed a grievance against the nfl PA for
Speaker 1: like that work cards.
Speaker 3: I think did you did you read it? Yes?
Speaker 1: Yeh think I think for the most part, I think
Speaker 1: I think it's bully. They say it it violates the
Speaker 1: collective bargaining and agreement uh that the union. I think
Speaker 1: they said quote it was using reasonable efforts to cartel
Speaker 1: public comments by club's personnel or players which express criticism
Speaker 1: of any club, its coach, or its operations and policies.
Speaker 3: Like no now in fl p E.
Speaker 1: That means players association, we are not for the NFL,
Speaker 1: Like we're trying to make things for the players better.
Speaker 1: The NFL just doesn't want their thirty laundry era. Yes,
Speaker 1: Like now, you know I understand. It's a couple of
Speaker 1: points in there that I can understand, not even I
Speaker 1: maybe maybe even agree with to a point, like like
Speaker 1: what like like need to make sure it's actually players
Speaker 1: that's doing it. Yeah, yeah, No, you don't get the names.
Speaker 1: You get just player XYZ.
Speaker 3: Just know he's a legitimate player, right, He's a legitimate player. Like, Okay,
Speaker 3: I'm cool with that.
Speaker 1: Like, I do agree that it should be specific, you know,
Speaker 1: feedback to what the teams you know, need to do,
Speaker 1: what they need to improve. But it's still gonna be
Speaker 1: an A to F grading scale because it's gonna be
Speaker 1: based on the percentage. Yeah, ten one hundred to ninety
Speaker 1: is a eighty nine and eighty is a B and
Speaker 1: so on and so and forth.
Speaker 3: Yes, so like that is just what it's going to be. This,
Speaker 3: This is what I'm saying. I'm up.
Speaker 2: The NFL doesn't want the dirty laundry out there. And
Speaker 2: this is the other thing too, Like NFL like when
Speaker 2: you go to these facilities and you do things like
Speaker 2: we're not trying to be bougie certain teams. If you
Speaker 2: walk into the walk into the Browns facilities compared to
Speaker 2: walking into the still facilities, I'm not going to grade
Speaker 2: the still facilities like, oh no, it's trash. It's just
Speaker 2: not as nice as it's luxury as the other stuff
Speaker 2: will be. So they have all the accommodations, fool. You're
Speaker 2: gonna be honest and let them know what it is.
Speaker 2: But certain places have better things and take care of
Speaker 2: the players.
Speaker 1: Well, everybody get up to the same level, then you
Speaker 1: don't have a discrepancy in your grading scale.
Speaker 3: Just get your stuff up to the level.
Speaker 1: Why I need to be nfl PA executive director like
Speaker 1: point blank period, And you know what, My dude, Cam
Speaker 1: Hayward is on the executive committee, and from what I understand,
Speaker 1: my name has to be put on the ballot by
Speaker 1: someone that is on the committee.
Speaker 3: And he said he would do that.
Speaker 1: I'm hoping though that he did that, and I would he.
Speaker 3: Definitely did it, and I would love. Like I said, I.
Speaker 1: Don't know, I'm just assuming that name was on it.
Speaker 1: I would have had some type of contact. I haven't,
Speaker 1: so you know, I'm just you know, we don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying he has or he hasn't, but when
Speaker 1: you have, you know, Jalen Reeves maybe as the current
Speaker 1: nfl PA president like nobody even knows. So if my
Speaker 1: name doesn't make it on the final players you know
Speaker 1: vote ballot for executive director, I'm thinking it gotta be
Speaker 1: something up, you know, Yeah, Because to be honest with
Speaker 1: you here, it goes the NFLPA. A lot of them
Speaker 1: people over there that work for the NFLPA want to
Speaker 1: work for the NFL. Okay, prime example being go back
Speaker 1: Troy Vinson. Troy Vinson worked for the NFLPA and went
Speaker 1: to the NFL. Here's the crazy thing. He blew his
Speaker 1: cover though. When we were doing the collective Bardning Agreement
Speaker 1: for the twenty eleven Charles Woodson and Ryan Clark RC,
Speaker 1: Woodson actually said we thought he was for US. I
Speaker 1: knew he wasn't for US. RC said, absolutely lost credibility.
Speaker 1: This is when they ended up getting the Marcus Smith, who,
Speaker 1: by the way, went and set rules in place that
Speaker 1: we have now that actually took the power away from
Speaker 1: the players to make the decisions of who they wanted
Speaker 1: to vote for and put it into basically a committee
Speaker 1: or board that he picked that would actually pick who
Speaker 1: the person was he would run against in the re
Speaker 1: elections when that time came, So that basically ensured that
Speaker 1: he would win while he lined his pockets with more
Speaker 1: and more money, going from a salary in twenty ten
Speaker 1: of like one point five one point six million to
Speaker 1: ending in twenty twenty three at nine point three million.
Speaker 1: What place do you know that increases your salary in
Speaker 1: a thirteen year span by five x?
Speaker 3: Dirty dirty, dirty politics.
Speaker 1: And there's too many people over there that are trying
Speaker 1: to do what's necessary for them to get more. Dude,
Speaker 1: I could go into it even with when I went
Speaker 1: through that al Jazeer where they were trying to say, oh,
Speaker 1: James Herrison is doing this doing that right. The lawyer
Speaker 1: they gave me who was a personal close friend of
Speaker 1: d Smith and he got her the job. She's asking
Speaker 1: me questions, bro, and I'm telling her. I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's this that whatever da da da. Right, we get
Speaker 1: in there. The NFL lawyers is like, okay, we know
Speaker 1: you did this and that, d da da da da.
Speaker 1: But I'm like, what good thing? I wasn't guilty because
Speaker 1: if I had told her, she would already went and
Speaker 1: told them. So it's things like that, dude, you want
Speaker 1: somebody that's going to be there representing you, Like, how
Speaker 1: does your salary go four or five times X like
Speaker 1: you don't make you're not there to take care of
Speaker 1: the players. It ended up being there to line his pockets,
Speaker 1: taking the power away from the players to make the decision.
Speaker 3: So as I understand it, now, if.
Speaker 1: You're not put on by the executive Committee, who then
Speaker 1: makes a decision on who gets put out to the public,
Speaker 1: like I may not even I may be put on
Speaker 1: the ballot, but they do that behind closed doors before
Speaker 1: they decide who gets put out to the public. So
Speaker 1: maybe it's your nfl PA president right now, and I
Speaker 1: don't get put in front of the players. Anything's wrong,
Speaker 1: what's going on? And it's still the nfl PA trying
Speaker 1: to make it to the NFL.
Speaker 3: Okay, nah d BO.
Speaker 2: We're gonna keep an eye out on that, because if
Speaker 2: you put your name out on the ballot there should.
Speaker 1: Be no reason, then we know it's it should be
Speaker 1: no reason. It should reason that for sure. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, like representation is no representation. Now, I'm
Speaker 1: with you on that.
Speaker 2: And when we were saying too, when we was going
Speaker 2: back to the just the report cars too, do you
Speaker 2: think that I think the report cars are a good thing.
Speaker 2: That's said too long as you have the honesty of
Speaker 2: it's a player playing, and dudes are going to be
Speaker 2: tell you what it is. How's the food, how's the trivel?
Speaker 2: How are they treating us? Because you play, some people
Speaker 2: play for other teams. Some people some dudes. You just
Speaker 2: don't know what you don't know. So if you played
Speaker 2: for another team, you've been to a facility, you moved
Speaker 2: it that way, you went to these facilities. Like the
Speaker 2: one thing I say about the Stellers too, and it's
Speaker 2: not a knock when we're saying, like these facilities aren't
Speaker 2: as good as others, it's because pit stealers are split
Speaker 2: with pit panthers, Like it's just smaller. It's just you
Speaker 2: don't have a whole facility. You don't have enough as
Speaker 2: much space. So when you go to other joints where
Speaker 2: it's just a whole big old like a like a
Speaker 2: pre like a training facility just for you particular, with
Speaker 2: just so much stuff that you don't even really need.
Speaker 2: But it's nice. So I'm gonna break that. That's a
Speaker 2: ten that looks like you like it's amazing, Like everything's
Speaker 2: just very very new, is very clean. But at the
Speaker 2: same time, pistopl You're gonna get the job done. The
Speaker 2: weights still work the same way the weights work. You
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: The staff here, listen, it's a salary cap, right, every
Speaker 1: team you got to spend a certain amount of money
Speaker 1: or it is able to spend a certain amount of money.
Speaker 1: If they don't, it's certain things that happen or don't happen.
Speaker 1: If they go over, certain things that happen or don't happen.
Speaker 1: It needs to be a standard for what your facilities
Speaker 1: should look like, should have and be accessible to your
Speaker 1: players period.
Speaker 3: That way, you ain't got to worry about it.
Speaker 1: That's the only thing y'all want to, you know, not
Speaker 1: have across the board satary cap. You want to make
Speaker 1: sure can't nobody spend no more than nobody else, Like
Speaker 1: make sure the facilities are to the standard at every facility.
Speaker 1: Then it just being coaches or teams or owners that
Speaker 1: want to make sure that their facilities are grade A
Speaker 1: versus guys that are like, hey, it's doable or it's
Speaker 1: efficient enough.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, for sure, we speaking the same same language, buddy,
Speaker 2: because that's where it's who the ownership like. That's really
Speaker 2: kind of I think that's mainly more on like the
Speaker 2: owners more like cause they're building, they own the facilities
Speaker 2: that you're training in and all that stuff. So I mean,
Speaker 2: if they want to spend their stuff looking sweet like Dallas,
Speaker 2: you just they look it looks amazing. When you were
Speaker 2: in college, you can recruited to Florida. You go see
Speaker 2: their facilities, you go see Alabama facilities. You know, I'm
Speaker 2: like this, that's like people want to do there. The
Speaker 2: stuff looks sweet, let's go right, makes people want to
Speaker 2: go work.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you got to realize in college, what's going
Speaker 1: to get you there? Well, back then it was the facility.
Speaker 1: Now recruiting to yeah, it's it's the you know, it's
Speaker 1: the bread and n I L you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: plus the facility because if you're looking at the same
Speaker 1: thing in the facility, better here than it is there,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go without get the facilities and the bread, right,
Speaker 1: no question about it, No question about it.
Speaker 3: Dude. A J.
Speaker 1: Brown said he ain't making no apologies for his twitch stream. Dude,
Speaker 1: you see what he's said. Yeah, he told.
Speaker 3: Them boys, He told them boys. Man, you know what
Speaker 3: it is.
Speaker 2: And he's talking to his homeboy playing the game, and
Speaker 2: he's like it is I'm trying to laugh through it.
Speaker 2: Where he wants the rock, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: And he's saying, no matter what, winning the games, it
Speaker 2: is what it is. But if if we're on we're
Speaker 2: we're on the offensive side of the ball.
Speaker 3: I can respect this. As an offensive player.
Speaker 2: I would want my team to be able to like,
Speaker 2: don't don't don't talk about the defense, talking about how
Speaker 2: we're gonna make the offense better.
Speaker 3: He's trying to provide. He feels like he can do.
Speaker 3: He could work.
Speaker 1: Hey man, they said they say that man A J.
Speaker 1: Brown just changes I G bio to unemployed an hour ago.
Speaker 3: No he didn't. I don't know. He's trying to tell
Speaker 3: it somebers. He just know he's gassing. But I think
Speaker 3: he look the checks saying like I ain't got no
Speaker 3: job because I ain't got no numbers. That's what he's saying.
Speaker 2: He's saying that because the checks, the check still, the
Speaker 2: check go clear, baby cliar, But I'm getting paid.
Speaker 1: You were against him, But what do you think of
Speaker 1: him not not apologizing for or saying what he said
Speaker 1: me personally, I ain't got no problem with he just
Speaker 1: keeping the one hundred. Hey man, take me off. Y'all
Speaker 1: think I'm gonna get you any fans points? Now, y'all
Speaker 1: haven't seen what I'm gonna get. I'm get a catch
Speaker 1: here and there.
Speaker 3: That's it.
Speaker 1: Now, you know, go up against I gotta go up
Speaker 1: against Chase, I gotta go up against Jeffrey. I gotta
Speaker 1: go up against guys. It's just getting the ball. Told
Speaker 1: it to him.
Speaker 3: Now, you know, we ain't gonna throw the ball, no
Speaker 3: motor sixteen times a game.
Speaker 2: Dev Are you feeling that same way if you are
Speaker 2: on the Eagles?
Speaker 3: No, I lied, man. It was Tyreek that said unemployed.
Speaker 3: No A J. Brown, Nope, it was Tyreek. It was
Speaker 3: Tyreek Hill that said that. Thank you Jesus. I was
Speaker 3: about to say, He's about to say.
Speaker 2: He's definitely he's that's not even a support.
Speaker 3: He's still on the roster though. Yeah, who else you
Speaker 3: say that? You can release me? Hurt yourself? Who? Tyree? Yeah?
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Let me look at that again. You can't release this man.
Speaker 1: They could if they were depending. That's a lot of
Speaker 1: money though.
Speaker 2: They old Tyreek Hill, They old Tybree Hill guaranteed.
Speaker 3: Oh you cut it.
Speaker 1: You cut a man while he why he hurt like that,
Speaker 1: you gotta pay for whatever that whole thing would be
Speaker 1: plus recovery.
Speaker 3: Do you have another year on this contract? Say that
Speaker 3: one time.
Speaker 1: If you cut cut somebody by while they hurt, you
Speaker 1: get you gotta pay him.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't know. I don't know. We're gonna see.
Speaker 3: We're gonna see. Hey man. And speaking of that, Travis
Speaker 3: he out for the year. Bro, God, I think it
Speaker 3: was yep, what you think?
Speaker 1: Man?
Speaker 2: I look now, the more and more that I'm watching it,
Speaker 2: and the more and more that I see, like Travis
Speaker 2: isn't really like the biggest you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 2: body gotta go one way, like I would think, you
Speaker 2: just gotta gotta go one way mainly.
Speaker 3: Just for body wise. You know, the NFL not for long.
Speaker 2: You're gonna get hurt, People gonna get hit, We're gonna
Speaker 2: get injured regardless.
Speaker 3: So I'm just thinking longevity wise.
Speaker 2: At first, I was thinking, if you're the Jaguars, you
Speaker 2: get a first round pick, you got elite talent, your
Speaker 2: team isn't really as good. You can use them on both.
Speaker 2: You can get a top flight corner and a top
Speaker 2: flight receiver. But now the more I'm looking at it,
Speaker 2: like for the help of the kid and for Travis
Speaker 2: Hunter's like career wise, like do you want it to
Speaker 2: be cut short just because you're trying that At the
Speaker 2: end of the day, it's the NFL. You're playing for
Speaker 2: the best people in the world over exerting yourself. Where
Speaker 2: if you just locked in on one you know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying, got your mind right, was able to go
Speaker 2: pro Bowl, like really just focus in and be able
Speaker 2: to make that your thing, like being able to try because.
Speaker 3: You still could get hurt.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, playing once right, you know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, I'm not going to knock that.
Speaker 3: I mean, you go get you go, you get. I
Speaker 3: think you get a lot.
Speaker 1: More protections playing receiver, would uh you know at the
Speaker 1: you know, at the at the corner position, plus people
Speaker 1: got to adjust to you. He's not adjusting to them.
Speaker 1: You know, he's not trying to figure out if this
Speaker 1: dude or try and run pass him and throwing mmm,
Speaker 1: you know, and having to be able to step that
Speaker 1: foot into the ground. You know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 1: I would and like you said, you know, he's not
Speaker 1: he's not an extremely large dude.
Speaker 3: So I'm with you.
Speaker 1: I would I would, I would, I would go to
Speaker 1: the to the offensive side, especially now that you can't
Speaker 1: even really you can't really hit nobody like coming across
Speaker 1: the middle.
Speaker 3: It's just something, you know, comeing across the middle is
Speaker 3: the thing of the past.
Speaker 2: No, for sure, you're right, You're right about that. And
Speaker 2: I mean, if you want, I like him at dB.
Speaker 2: I like him.
Speaker 3: I like him at dB.
Speaker 2: I think he would like I think he'd be a
Speaker 2: great receiver, like I just don't know how like.
Speaker 3: I mean, he could be a great receiver too, But I.
Speaker 2: Just think his routes and stuff like that aren't as
Speaker 2: Chris as a you know what I'm saying, Like a
Speaker 2: like a Chase, like a Jefferson, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Like, I think those are the elite of the elites.
Speaker 3: I think at dB, he got he got.
Speaker 1: You know, one of those other quarterbacks on that overrated
Speaker 1: list was his quarterback, Trevor Lawrence. Yes, I don't think
Speaker 1: he's that over I think Trevor Lawrence is. I don't
Speaker 1: think he's that overrated. It depends on who you're talking to.
Speaker 1: You think he's overrated.
Speaker 3: It depends on who you're.
Speaker 1: Talking to, if I if I talk to if you
Speaker 1: ever talked into a fan of some sort.
Speaker 3: For me, I don't think he's ever ready, because I have.
Speaker 1: Really I have a realistic yes, a few of his
Speaker 1: of his skills, like expectations like like depending on what
Speaker 1: announcer you get announcing the game, you think he the
Speaker 1: next coming to Joe Montana.
Speaker 3: You ain't lying like you're lying. I don't think.
Speaker 2: I don't think he's bad. I think I think he's good.
Speaker 2: I think he's a good, solid franchise quarterback, bro. And
Speaker 2: if if he can, I think he can make. He
Speaker 2: can make the those he can make all of the those.
Speaker 1: Consistently consistently. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, bro, consistently.
Speaker 3: I like, I'm not. I'm not. I'm not a trouble.
Speaker 3: I'm saying you could like it. I don't. I don't.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying I'm going by the skill or what
Speaker 1: I see, what I don't, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I think he's gonna be solid. I think he's gonna
Speaker 2: be solid. Okay, do you.
Speaker 3: Think you think Travis Hunt is gonna better th a
Speaker 3: receiver than at corner. I just I just I just
Speaker 3: I just like him better at receiver, dude. Okay, no, no,
Speaker 3: and I respect I like.
Speaker 1: His adjustments to be able to get to the ball
Speaker 1: all that. Like, I don't like him having to come
Speaker 1: up with a you know, alignment coming out there to
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 3: Do the screen and you can't cut that lineman. That's
Speaker 3: I don't like that.
Speaker 1: I don't that that that that's not something I want
Speaker 1: to see.
Speaker 2: I think he's gonna be here either way. Either way,
Speaker 2: it's gonna work. Like you said, his ball skills, you
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, being that receiver, being able to
Speaker 2: adjust his body, just getting.
Speaker 1: His adjustments to balls like he did it. That's what
Speaker 1: he's done is being able to do that.
Speaker 3: Dude. That's a that's a hard skill.
Speaker 1: You look and see you know in the in New
Speaker 1: England game where dude couldn't adjust back to a couple
Speaker 1: of passes because a couple of catches.
Speaker 2: If that's Travis, he get them. Yeah, Travis is a
Speaker 2: ball he could do. He could do either way. He
Speaker 2: could he could play either side of the ball. I
Speaker 2: just want him to pick one of them joints and
Speaker 2: get after it because I think the more and more I.
Speaker 3: Think about it though, just that the health. You know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: I don't want him to start off his career just
Speaker 2: being able to get hurt and then, you know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying, that it continue. So I wanted to just
Speaker 2: take one of them spots, corner or receiver, whichever one
Speaker 2: it is, and just hone his craft and become elite.
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, but I'm a receiver. I'm sorry. You will
Speaker 3: receive it though. I think that's no.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I know his ball skills and how elite
Speaker 2: he could be at dB, Like that's the thing. He
Speaker 2: could be one of the best to do it at dB,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. Because the ball skills, that
Speaker 2: being able to read stuff like when he was in
Speaker 2: college at Colorado, breaking his zones and being able to
Speaker 2: play man because he could run, he could jump, He
Speaker 2: can come out of his brakes just as fast or
Speaker 2: faster than these receivers. And then he's going to turn
Speaker 2: into the receiver. When he turns around, he's playing the
Speaker 2: ball in the air, you know what I'm saying. Looking
Speaker 2: back he sees that, he's like, oh, now that's mine.
Speaker 2: He can go get it. So I just think with
Speaker 2: the athletic ability and ball skills, it'll make him one
Speaker 2: of the best to do it at dB. But as
Speaker 2: a receiver, there's other guys that are receivers that I
Speaker 2: see that could just that are better than him.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, also like you you go, you're gonna
Speaker 1: be playing against better caliber quarterbacks and receivers at this level. Like,
Speaker 1: you know, Matthew Stafford ain't gonna put that thing right
Speaker 1: there for you to be able to get it.
Speaker 3: He gonna put away only his dude can get it.
Speaker 3: Nobody else, you know.
Speaker 1: You know, in college, the placement is not like that,
Speaker 1: The speed's not like that. Every you know, every every
Speaker 1: you know receiver you come up against and go have
Speaker 1: that ability to be that you know that Chase stress Fees,
Speaker 1: you know, things like that. So I think while he
Speaker 1: is a great talent, I think some of that added
Speaker 1: to helping him.
Speaker 3: You know, be as good as he was in college.
Speaker 2: No, for sure, we on the same page. We just
Speaker 2: think that boy, Travis Hunt.
Speaker 3: Is a dog.
Speaker 2: Wherever he's at, he's going to thrive. And just want
Speaker 2: him to be healthy and be out there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he got hurt in practice, so like heang
Speaker 1: you know, like that's that's tough. That's I didn't even
Speaker 1: get to go out there and and and get you know,
Speaker 1: popped on the battlefield. You know what I'm saying, Like, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that that hurts.
Speaker 3: That hurts. They work on that turf hopefully.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's let's go over here to Detroit. Though, Gibbs,
Speaker 1: they say he closer in on Barry Ran on Barry
Speaker 1: Sanders record for the most touchdowns before the age of
Speaker 1: twenty four. They said that dude got what is it
Speaker 1: forty one right now? And what we got how many
Speaker 1: games we gotta that? You've got age seven eight seven
Speaker 1: eight games eight? You only need six more or seven
Speaker 1: more to beat it. I think that record is what
Speaker 1: forty seven? Record is forty seven for sure. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: think you think he's gonna be able to do it?
Speaker 1: Like he hitting two and three, Well, he hit into
Speaker 1: a game like it's multiple games where he gonna hit two.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I think he can.
Speaker 2: And I think with the with their coaching staff, they
Speaker 2: can put it in a position where it gets down
Speaker 2: there and then.
Speaker 1: That man, that's a staff that's gonna care about that man,
Speaker 1: your coach, if he gets you in that position to
Speaker 1: be able to do it he gonna get it done.
Speaker 2: Let me distribute this little teddy to him. Montgomery discributed
Speaker 2: ted you Williams Saint Brown. Okay, you've been waiting on this.
Speaker 2: So I think once it gets down to the nitty gritty,
Speaker 2: their offense is so powerful and they coach and just
Speaker 2: feeling their vibes, he's gonna be able to get him
Speaker 2: his touchdowns if he gets close to it, because, like
Speaker 2: you said, he's going two touchdowns a game. If he
Speaker 2: the next two games to a game, it's gonna be
Speaker 2: easy for them to I think, get it to him.
Speaker 1: Because if he if he get two in the next
Speaker 1: if he get two toes in the next two or
Speaker 1: three games and one in any one of them, I'm
Speaker 1: definitely gonna.
Speaker 3: Say you're gonna get it.
Speaker 1: So how many we say he needs six right now?
Speaker 1: He needs six right now to tie it? Oh for show,
Speaker 1: he needs selling to beat it. Yeah, I want dude, i't.
Speaker 3: Need him to get it.
Speaker 1: That's that's crazy. How many years have you been in
Speaker 1: the league, bro, it's only what four right now?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Because he's yes, because he still ain't got no, because
Speaker 2: he still don't have a bag.
Speaker 3: He's still on his rookie deal Montgomery.
Speaker 2: Montgomery hit him for a cut a little bag, so
Speaker 2: you get he was ready gives he's balling, So yeah,
Speaker 2: he's gonna he's gonna deserve it all, young bull.
Speaker 3: This probably year fourth broh twenty three was picked bro.
Speaker 2: Twenty three Brown, Yes, that's what that because he was
Speaker 2: what he was. So his rookie season was twenty six
Speaker 2: and he just switched to zero.
Speaker 3: Woh, it ain't even three deep yet.
Speaker 2: God, yeah, they gotta go ahead and they need to
Speaker 2: keep performing while they got this duo, because that's gonna
Speaker 2: be a that's gonna be a Brinks truck. They're gonna
Speaker 2: have to back up to my good man. Oh but
Speaker 2: that's gonna be hard. This is a thing called the
Speaker 2: salary cap. No, but that's what I'm telling you. They
Speaker 2: gotta do it now and then they yeah, they might
Speaker 2: have to draft another little one. But look, that's the
Speaker 2: thing when you got a team like that. They already
Speaker 2: signed a bunch of their players already. They already signed Williams,
Speaker 2: they already signed Golf, they already sign I'm Brown. They've
Speaker 2: been giving out bags over there, they've been doing a
Speaker 2: good job, and they know.
Speaker 1: At some point believe me, these these contracts go get
Speaker 1: front or back heavy, and it's gonna be it's gonna
Speaker 1: be decisions. They gotta be made, man debo.
Speaker 3: That's what I'm trying to tell you, you know.
Speaker 2: But Deebo the more when people always say that to me,
Speaker 2: this is what you gotta win. You gotta win. And
Speaker 2: this the other thing too. You gotta be able to
Speaker 2: the thing that the teams realize. You can guarantee money
Speaker 2: to your ballers. If your ballers are performing at a
Speaker 2: high level, that's when you're that's when you can live.
Speaker 2: If your ballers are performing and not and not performing,
Speaker 2: that's when you can't be signing people and be making
Speaker 2: all of the bread because if the dudes are making money,
Speaker 2: guarantee your quarterback's salary.
Speaker 3: Everything.
Speaker 2: Guarantee your quarterback salary, and I tell you that opens
Speaker 2: up so much space. That's the one thing I always
Speaker 2: would look at, like, just make the contract of your
Speaker 2: quarterback or your best players that are hooping fully guarantee
Speaker 2: that year, and then that opens up so much money
Speaker 2: in the cap.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you know, did that just turned off? Can
Speaker 3: you hear me? Can you hear me? Yeah? I can
Speaker 3: hear you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, But you gotta you know, it ain't a year
Speaker 1: to year contract, dude, it's a you know, it's at
Speaker 1: least four year contract. So you got to guarantee so
Speaker 1: much of that, if not all of it, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, depending on what type of deal that
Speaker 1: they're willing to take. Like, if I want to take
Speaker 1: a friendly deal, you got to guarantee me something that's
Speaker 1: gonna be conducive to where I feel like I'm going
Speaker 1: to be at the end of that contract, especially with
Speaker 1: it being so short and you you know your game
Speaker 1: is going to get better, hopefully and elevate. So instead
Speaker 1: of it being and market value right now, you know,
Speaker 1: what is the top tier quarterback right gonna cost you
Speaker 1: fifty million right now in forty years, Like what's that
Speaker 1: go called? You got to think about what homes deal was.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying, Like forty something right now, everybody
Speaker 1: else making fifty something.
Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes is smart.
Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes knew he could have went when he did
Speaker 2: his deal, he could have stung him for fifty million
Speaker 2: dollars a year. He went and did a forty five
Speaker 2: million all a year for ten years, just so they
Speaker 2: can move money around because you know, when you got
Speaker 2: a quarterback like that, he's not going nowhere. So the
Speaker 2: forty five guarantee the type of Mahomes, you don't have
Speaker 2: to guarantee it right now, but every year he's not
Speaker 2: going nowhere.
Speaker 1: You can read, I understand what you're saying, but like
Speaker 1: right now, look at the window.
Speaker 3: You can't say it ain't man, you can't tell me
Speaker 3: this that.
Speaker 2: I mean, as long as you got patoric Mahomes, you
Speaker 2: got a chance. As long as you got Patrick, you
Speaker 2: got a chance. And they got and they got defense.
Speaker 2: They still got jones in them. Defense is sometimes they're
Speaker 2: sometimes not like situation.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, like inconsistent, but you know what it is,
Speaker 1: they're gonna be there.
Speaker 2: So like you you know what I'm saying. They gonna
Speaker 2: be there at the end. So it's like you're gonna
Speaker 2: you're gonna have You're gonna have Patrick Mahomes with You're
Speaker 2: gonna have to see can you beat them or can
Speaker 2: you not? When you get to the playoffs.
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't disagree with you, you know, I
Speaker 3: just like to you know.
Speaker 1: I know you like to be like this, you know, devils.
Speaker 1: I like to get the start you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Don't get me wrong. If I'm patting, I'm in the
Speaker 3: same situation.
Speaker 1: Yeah, give me the five hundred back and guarantee your
Speaker 1: opinion of I'm gonna give your deal.
Speaker 2: I'm chilling, and I think that's what the good quarterbacks
Speaker 2: are starting to do.
Speaker 3: Like you know, you ain't got to sting them on
Speaker 3: shorter term. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Josh Allen didn't even go get more than what Dak
Speaker 2: Prescott got. You know what I'm saying, Like you know
Speaker 2: what the next man up, something like jayde and Daniels.
Speaker 1: You're gonna get money. Ain't good money, Okay, he knows.
Speaker 1: Like they say, the grass ain't always green. On the
Speaker 1: other side, you might get that money and then be
Speaker 1: sitting there like uh, like your boy, uh uh what's
Speaker 1: name man, Miles, your Miles Garrett upset although you got
Speaker 1: the bag now you can't win.
Speaker 3: No, And I'm we're saying the same thing.
Speaker 2: It's just the quarterback position is one where dudes are
Speaker 2: making sixty million dollars per year.
Speaker 3: It's coming and if you have a.
Speaker 2: Good one, I just think that the captain can help
Speaker 2: you with being able to just guarantee money to your
Speaker 2: best players.
Speaker 3: You know what, man, I say, Baseball, I ain't got
Speaker 3: no cap, right, they don't got no cap. Listen, go
Speaker 3: on cap, we go see what man? What what owners?
Speaker 3: No cap? We go see what owners really want to win?
Speaker 2: You're gonna that's that's where you're gonna find out who's
Speaker 2: the Yankees?
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Who's trying to drop that bag?
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Like we go see who
Speaker 3: go be the Yankees?
Speaker 1: Jenery, go throw extra money into his possession, no toy,
Speaker 1: make sure he can beat them boys again?
Speaker 3: Or is he not the only thing on capped? People?
Speaker 1: Do you know?
Speaker 3: Cap? No cap weight starting, no cap, no cap.
Speaker 2: If we did no cap, though debo, no cap would
Speaker 2: make the NFL crazy. It would be crazy because then
Speaker 2: that would be legitimate. Like go see, I couldn't even imagine.
Speaker 3: You see you write paper. That's exactly what we're gona see.
Speaker 3: You see who got the owners? Transh facilities? Yep? Who
Speaker 3: cares they because you're.
Speaker 2: Only gonna be able to spend You can only spend
Speaker 2: the same thing fifty percent of whatever they make and whatever,
Speaker 2: So it's like fifty fifty splits. They gotta spend fifty
Speaker 2: percent something like that. Each team has to spend this.
Speaker 1: It's a it's a it's a it's a it's a number,
Speaker 1: point blank period that each team has to spend at
Speaker 1: whatever it is. And if they don't spend up to
Speaker 1: a certain percentage of it, which is like almost ninety percent,
Speaker 1: eighty percent may be, then it's a penalty or whatever.
Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, they don't really hear about that, dude, Like,
Speaker 3: but that's the way they because they do revenue sharing anyway.
Speaker 3: But put sure.
Speaker 2: But I said, that's the only reason though. But that's
Speaker 2: why it keeps the salary cap keeps going up, because
Speaker 2: it has to go up because it's a certain amount
Speaker 2: if they if we're making, if they're making more than
Speaker 2: they have to.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, we're busting down to fifty
Speaker 3: to fifty.
Speaker 1: They got to spend, man, I ain't no fifty to
Speaker 1: fifty break too after they crape a certain amount. It's
Speaker 1: after they scrape a certain amount at the time. Like
Speaker 1: I said, man, I could get deep into this thing,
Speaker 1: but I won't.
Speaker 2: I understand what you're saying, Debo, But people getting paid
Speaker 2: sixty million dollars a year. When back in the day,
Speaker 2: when I think when we first got in, around twenty
Speaker 2: when I first got in, I think around twenty ten,
Speaker 2: I think the highest paid quarterback is.
Speaker 3: Probably making sixteen million dollars a year. Yep. And then
Speaker 3: that has to be because the TV deals and South.
Speaker 3: I made sixty thousand that same year. So now what
Speaker 3: dang they tried to we're talking.
Speaker 1: About you're making billions and billions of dollars, no debo,
Speaker 1: we're speaking the same We're saying the same thing. Oh,
Speaker 1: we're saying the same thing. You were saying a little
Speaker 1: something different. I'm saying on.
Speaker 3: CAP that thing. I hope they uncapp it. That would
Speaker 3: be in the wild wild West. Ain't no way in
Speaker 3: hell they uncappin it though the Yankees. Now the Yankees
Speaker 3: out there doing that shit. Now the Yankees has proven that.
Speaker 2: Like you said, if it goes on CAP, that's gonna
Speaker 2: show which owners are trying.
Speaker 1: To win for real, no question, no questions. Some people
Speaker 1: ain't gonna be able to compete to.
Speaker 3: Gehead, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I think they're trying to keep it competitive. That might
Speaker 1: be it, for sure.
Speaker 3: I don't know why does Baseball not care.
Speaker 1: Though, dude, I don't know why baseball don't care, but
Speaker 1: the fact that the baseball don't care, and the NFL
Speaker 1: still makes more money than any professional sport, it's crazy
Speaker 1: to me, even though they're uncap over here, brings in
Speaker 1: more money, Like even though like and their their NCAP,
Speaker 1: and we're still bringing in more money than them, like
Speaker 1: as a whole period. I mean, I understand some more
Speaker 1: players on the team and all the other stuff, but man, if.
Speaker 3: You want to win, man, you spend the green to
Speaker 3: get me.
Speaker 2: That's that's That's that baseball on cap. That's that overseas
Speaker 2: soccer money on cap.
Speaker 3: Oh, soccer ain't got no soccer, ain't got no capsule.
Speaker 2: And that soccer boy, that soccer talk, that soccer got
Speaker 2: way more money than anybody they got. They paying, they
Speaker 2: paying the team twenty million and then taking over the
Speaker 2: buddy's same contract. They give me you twenty million just
Speaker 2: for him. Just give me him for twenty and then
Speaker 2: for contract. And I'm gonna pay his contract whatever. And
Speaker 2: I'm gonna pay his contract whatever it is. Don't Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get my boy. I'm gonna get my boy
Speaker 2: kicking a soccer ball. That's what I need to do.
Speaker 1: I don't know about that. You got you gotta you
Speaker 1: gotta go over there. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Oh, we gotta move over there. You gotta move over there. Man,
Speaker 3: you gotta move over there. Negative.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think there's too many. There's too many
Speaker 1: from here. They got that, you know, they got that
Speaker 1: money like that.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. I feel that. Listen here man.
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