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Speaker 1: You don't listening to Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's right, you heard the man. It is that

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Speaker 2: time of week. My name is Bernie Frowner. We are

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Speaker 2: coming to live from the Fox Sports Radio studios here

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Speaker 2: in Las Vegas. We will take you up to three

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Speaker 2: am Pacific, six am Eastern and as usual, an absolute

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Speaker 2: jam pack show. The NFL is upon us in fine

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Speaker 2: Feddle and this weekend will certainly, certainly be be remembered

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Speaker 2: for some notable debuts. One notable debut that probably flew

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Speaker 2: under the radar for most people happened many many years ago.

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Speaker 2: A young tight end out of U c. L A

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Speaker 2: by the name of Tim Reightman was making his NFL

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Speaker 2: debut for the Chicago Bears against the New York Giants,

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Speaker 2: and on the first snap of the game, he lined

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Speaker 2: up the legendary Lawrence Taylor was on the other side

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Speaker 2: of the ball, and Taylor got up in his grill

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Speaker 2: and said, Sonny, when the ball is snapped, I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: go to the right. I'm gonna knock your quarterback on

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Speaker 2: his butt, put him out of the game, and there's

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Speaker 2: not a damn thing you can do about it. Tim

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Speaker 2: Rightman kept his cool. He knew the cadence, he knew

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Speaker 2: when the ball would be snapped, and just a split

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Speaker 2: second before the ball was snapped, he looked at Lawrence Taylor.

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Speaker 2: Tim Wrightman did and said, mister Taylor, is that your

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Speaker 2: right or my right? Taylor froze momentarily the ball was snapped.

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Speaker 2: Rightman got off the line of scrimmage, hit Lawrence Taylor

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Speaker 2: in another region and knocked him on his butt. Taylor

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Speaker 2: got up, smiled, padded Rightman on the head and said,

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Speaker 2: not bad kid, not bad. I think of Chadoor Sanders'

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Speaker 2: performance Friday night. Not bad kid, not bad. I have

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Speaker 2: no idea if he's going to be a serviceable starter

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Speaker 2: in the National Football League where he ends up on

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Speaker 2: the depth chart with Cleveland. You haven't even had a

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Speaker 2: chance to see Dylan Gabriel play yet, and he's good.

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Speaker 2: I don't care what the idiots say. Kenny Pickett has

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Speaker 2: twenty five starts in the National Football League and he's

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Speaker 2: fifteen to ten. Dog them all you want. I don't

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Speaker 2: care what the idiots say. He's got twenty five starts

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Speaker 2: and Joe Flacco's got a Super Bowl ring and he's

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Speaker 2: gonna be fine. I don't know where this sends up.

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Speaker 2: But for Friday Night, though, there's one thing that Shudor

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Speaker 2: Sanders showed that is actually quite important at the position

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Speaker 2: of quarterback, because he's not a lead athlete. He could

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Speaker 2: run a little, but he's not speedy. He's got a

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Speaker 2: good arm, not a great arm. He's accurate sometimes, but

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Speaker 2: he showed a lot of moxie, he showed a lot

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Speaker 2: of experience, looked like a guy who'd started fifty games

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Speaker 2: in college. And what I noticed most was his preparation.

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Speaker 2: There's not a dot in my mind. He knew that playbook,

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Speaker 2: he'd studied, he'd put in the time, There's no two

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Speaker 2: ways about it. And frankly, I already like him more

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Speaker 2: than I ever liked Trey Lance. I like him more

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Speaker 2: than I ever liked Lanthony Richardson. I like him more

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Speaker 2: than I like Justin Fields. Do with that what you will,

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Speaker 2: and I'll tell you why, because even though the three

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Speaker 2: or four mentioned names are considered elite athletes and prospects,

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Speaker 2: and we're all first round picks, they don't play the

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Speaker 2: game from the neck up anywhere near to what I

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Speaker 2: saw with Shud'or Sanders on Friday Night. You see You've

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Speaker 2: probably heard me say it a thousand times, so what's

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Speaker 2: one more. We already know that the quarterback position in

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Speaker 2: the NFL is the thinnest in all the sports. It's

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Speaker 2: his is any position in the world, You've got to

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Speaker 2: combine intellectual ability. You've got to adapt in an instant.

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Speaker 2: You've got to have physical attributes that you can evade

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Speaker 2: large defenders. Those guys are big and they run like

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Speaker 2: track stars. And you've got to have some emotional stability

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Speaker 2: and poise. Sanders grew up in a major league household.

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Speaker 2: He's absorbed that nothing is more important for the position

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Speaker 2: to quarterback than recognition. You've got to make pre snap reeds,

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Speaker 2: process coverages. Quarterback is a position you play with your eyes.

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Speaker 2: You receive the ball, you make your post snap reeds,

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Speaker 2: and it' see who they match up with and how

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Speaker 2: you have less than two seconds to execute. I don't

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Speaker 2: care how fast you run, how high you can jump,

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Speaker 2: or if you can throw a ball further than Uncle Rico.

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Speaker 2: That requires recognition for the most part, your door did that.

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Speaker 2: He made three tight window throws that were impressive, and

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Speaker 2: he made four that weren't so impressive. And that's why

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Speaker 2: it wasn't a first round draft choice. But that doesn't

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Speaker 2: mean he can't go on to have a cur in

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Speaker 2: the NFL. But let's relax just a little bit. I

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Speaker 2: got to admit I got a little nauseating every time.

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Speaker 2: Here's how the play sounded. Shout order drops back, play action,

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Speaker 2: my god, look at the touch on that ball. Did

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Speaker 2: you see that out? Oh my god, look at this

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Speaker 2: should order drops back stop route eight yard game. Oh

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Speaker 2: my god, did you see Jackson Dart today? He had

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Speaker 2: thirty reps and had more production. He was twelve of

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Speaker 2: twenty five yards. Where was the inglorious craziness on that?

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Speaker 2: But I don't want to take anything away from shud

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Speaker 2: because if you need to play, to move your feet,

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Speaker 2: to keep a play alive, you have to keep your

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Speaker 2: did that. Take note, also, you're reading the field. You're

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Speaker 2: seeing the field from what I saw he sees the field.

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Speaker 2: If the defense is manned a man, that could be

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Speaker 2: a green light to run north and south since the

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Speaker 2: defensive backs are facing away from you, well except for

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Speaker 2: the safety, but he's thirty yards away. If the defense

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Speaker 2: is a zone roll latterly, give your receivers a chance

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Speaker 2: to send it. Just their rafts get open, create a

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Speaker 2: positive play. He did both. Sanders did both. To be fair,

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Speaker 2: The truth of the matter is playing quarterback in the

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Speaker 2: National Football League is mostly between the years and can

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Speaker 2: you operate in the pocket? I thought I saw that

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Speaker 2: It's about recognition and reaction shoot or Sanders, for my money,

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Speaker 2: saw that in an exhibition game against players many, with

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Speaker 2: all due respect, will be working at NAP Auto Parts

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Speaker 2: next month. But that doesn't matter. Don't take anything away

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Speaker 2: from him. He can only play. The team that gets

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Speaker 2: will be curious to see how he handles blitzes because

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Speaker 2: he's not going to get away with that drifting like

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Speaker 2: he did on that on that play, and it might

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Speaker 2: have been the first or second series where he almost

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Speaker 2: took a fifteen to twenty yard loss, but got the

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Speaker 2: ball out of his hands, so it was fun to watch.

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Speaker 2: Too much as being made of it. Let's be honest, Okay,

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Speaker 2: I don't. I'm not gonna give a litany of guys

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Speaker 2: NFL Preseason Hall of Fame and didn't amount much. You know,

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Speaker 2: Action Gent carried the ball three times for one yard

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Speaker 2: overall and genty he was in the fifth round. So

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Speaker 2: let's not go too crazy. It was a debut. Give

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Speaker 2: the man his due. He was prepared, he knew the playbook,

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Speaker 2: he had some command of the offense. We'll see where

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Speaker 2: it goes from here. But you know, the slate of

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Speaker 2: preseason Action had lots of debuts that were worth paying

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Speaker 2: attention to, and we're going to get to I just

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Speaker 2: mentioned Jackson Dart, cam Or, Travis Cuenter, JJ McCarthy. By

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Speaker 2: the way, I don't you've heard it a thousand times,

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Speaker 2: but are you serious? Somebody named cam Little kicked a

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Speaker 2: seventy yard field goal. I guess it doesn't count in

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Speaker 2: the record books, but I also think we're burying the lead.

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Speaker 2: This kid kicked four field goals for like a total

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Speaker 2: of two hundred and twelve yards and field goals. Four

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Speaker 2: field goals on the night. All were over forty yards,

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Speaker 2: two were over fifty, including a fifty two yard in

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Speaker 2: the fourth quarter. But the seventy yarder is one that

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Speaker 2: would be remembered for a long time, even if it

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Speaker 2: was only a preseason game. See preseason games matter, but

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Speaker 2: they don't count. Note that you know your future votes

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Speaker 2: for Shudor Sanders into the Hall of Fame, which he

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Speaker 2: may be. You know he may wear a yellow jacket someday,

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Speaker 2: but you can't base it on one night a guy

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Speaker 2: who will wear a yellow jacket someday. Patrick Mahomes needed

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Speaker 2: only one pass the show. He's ready now, Andy Reid,

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Speaker 2: he's old school. He always plays his starters in preseason games.

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Speaker 2: He's been doing it since what nineteen ninety eight, So

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Speaker 2: you near Mahomes and the Chiefs first team offense would

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Speaker 2: get some snaps in Week one, but he just needed

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Speaker 2: one pass. Reid pull would be threw a one yard

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Speaker 2: touchdown pass to Jason Brownlee in the first minute of

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Speaker 2: the game because he Niners botched the opening kickoff to

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Speaker 2: give the Chiefs very good field position. Mahomes only played

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Speaker 2: three snaps got pulled from the game, but based on

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Speaker 2: a very nice backshoulder throw to Brownlee, Mahomes looks a

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Speaker 2: midseason four him. By the way, not to channel Nick Wright,

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Speaker 2: which I have no intention of doing. I think reports

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Speaker 2: of the Chief's potential devise this year are greatly exaggerated.

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Speaker 2: They're gonna make some serious noise again. Watch out for

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Speaker 2: the Chiefs. Cam Ward the number one pick overall. He

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Speaker 2: only played two series in his NFL debut, but he

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Speaker 2: did look like the number one overall pick. In the

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Speaker 2: second series for the Titans, he got some good line protection.

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Speaker 2: He threw a deep pass over the middle Calvin Ridley,

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Speaker 2: couple of picks too. Cam almost threw a pick, but

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Speaker 2: the protection was good. Ward looked very comfortable in the pocket.

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Speaker 2: And if I only have one complaint, and this is

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Speaker 2: not a complaint. It's a reality shooting. He threw for

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Speaker 2: one hundred and five yards one hundred and three yards

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Speaker 2: and nineteen attempts or whatever it was. It's only about

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Speaker 2: five five and a half six yards per completion. That's

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Speaker 2: not good. You want to be up about nine. That's

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Speaker 2: not his fault. They didn't let him do a lot.

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Speaker 2: We'll see if they let him do more. Another debut.

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Speaker 2: Who they did let do a lot, Travis Hunter. He

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Speaker 2: played nineteen snaps and debuted at two positions, wide receiver

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Speaker 2: eleven snaps on offense. He had two catches for nine yards,

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Speaker 2: but he was only targeted twice. Played eight snaps on defense,

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Speaker 2: wasn't targeted. His side of the field wasn't targeted at all.

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Speaker 2: It's pretty obvious the Jags are going to find a

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Speaker 2: Back to Jackson Dart now look Brian Dablin. The coaching

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Speaker 2: staff have to be very impressed with Dark's preseason debut.

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Speaker 2: In his first series, he showed off a realarm, big

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Speaker 2: A deep pass down the left side till the Jordan

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Speaker 2: Humphrey for a touchdown. That's the one thing i'd eldct

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Speaker 2: to have seen more of a vertical game. Wasn't shoot

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Speaker 2: or refault. They didn't let him do it. But I

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Speaker 2: got to see that. I gotta see how he handles

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Speaker 2: the blitz. But again he was prepared. Dart had a

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Speaker 2: very strong debut. Okay, so that Russell Wilson. It was

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Speaker 2: in bad twelve to nineteen for a buck fifty four.

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Speaker 2: Giants will be patient with Dart, but he's already had

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Speaker 2: a very strong rookie camp and he's going to be

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Speaker 6: How are you, Bernie?

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Speaker 5: Surprise a lot of people.

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Speaker 2: No, that's always the conundrum, exactly right. This is one

433
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Speaker 2: year I actually feel that he is going to be

434
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Speaker 2: in a straight and narrow for multiple reasons. It's maybe

435
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Speaker 2: his last year. All right, let's come to our hometown

436
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Speaker 2: here in Las Vegas, where we both live. Look. I

437
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Speaker 2: have tremendous respect for the Raiders as a brand. They're

438
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Speaker 2: iconic or historic. They've won three Super Bowls, but they're

439
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Speaker 2: living in the past in my humble opinion.

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Speaker 8: And I.

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Speaker 2: Something metaphorically happened Thursday night when they were leaving the field,

442
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Speaker 2: and I guess Max Crosby and Gino Smith both gave

443
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Speaker 2: the you know, the one finger piece signed to the

444
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Speaker 2: fans as they were leaving the field. That just to

445
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Speaker 2: me underscoes a culture that they just can't escape from,

446
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Speaker 2: along with the penalties, the dumb plays, the blown assignments.

447
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Speaker 2: I haven't fired on it, but I would tend to

448
00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:09,720
Speaker 2: lean under Raiders wins this year.

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Speaker 7: Your thoughts, well, you bring up two excellent points. Let's

450
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Speaker 7: get to the win total first, I would agree with you.

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Speaker 7: I don't have their season win total in front of me,

452
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Speaker 7: but I'm guessing it's probably about seven and a half exact.

453
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Speaker 7: And so I think this team you look towards the

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Speaker 7: under They're in a very competitive division Chargers, Broncos and

455
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Speaker 7: Kansas City Chiefs.

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Speaker 8: But beyond that, I thought you brought.

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Speaker 7: Up an excellent point. I think this point really needs

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Speaker 7: to be looked at. Gino Smith and Max Crosby are

459
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Speaker 7: your two best players. I don't know if Gino Smith

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Speaker 7: is your best offensive player. Fine, if you want to

461
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Speaker 7: go with somebody on the old line or whatever it

462
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Speaker 7: may be.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, but.

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Speaker 7: The reality of it is Geno Smith and Max Krosby

465
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Speaker 7: are the two most visible players, and in the NFL,

466
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Speaker 7: when you're a quarterback making forty million dollars a year,

467
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Speaker 7: you can't be given the single gun salute to the

468
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Speaker 7: crowd in the city you played. That just looks tuvenile.

469
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Speaker 7: That looks like some high school type of thing. When

470
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Speaker 7: you're playing a you know, one of your competitors and

471
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Speaker 7: you're walking off the field and you're doing that, it's

472
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Speaker 7: just ridiculous. I'm sorry. If you're the Raiders, you put

473
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Speaker 7: you know, Smith a round to the side, you say, listen,

474
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Speaker 7: if I ever see that ever again, you're not gonna

475
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Speaker 7: play another down for this team. And I'm gonna promise

476
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Speaker 7: you're not gonna make any of your damn money. Like

477
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Speaker 7: I just thought that was completely unacceptable. You don't have

478
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Speaker 7: to be a Mahomes fan. You don't have to be

479
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Speaker 7: a fan of Josh Allen or any of these other guys.

480
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Speaker 7: Jalen Hurts, these three. You're not gonna see these three

481
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Speaker 7: guys doing that on the way off the field.

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Speaker 2: No, it's just It's a bad look for anybody, but

483
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Speaker 2: for the Raiders it seems to have just an extra

484
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Speaker 2: dimension when you consider they're trying to climb up out

485
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Speaker 2: of the dul drooms after two decades of struggling. Right,

486
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Speaker 2: there's still an iconic brand, but they're just not what

487
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Speaker 2: they were all right them all every year there are

488
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Speaker 2: teams that truly surprise. I've got my eye on Arizona

489
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Speaker 2: and maybe New England. What are your thoughts on teams

490
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Speaker 2: that when people aren't talking about right now, that they'd

491
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Speaker 2: be talking about in November?

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Speaker 7: Well, I thought you hit a problem one that I

493
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Speaker 7: was looking at, which was the New England Patriots. I

494
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Speaker 7: like Drake may we saw Trey and Henderson have the

495
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Speaker 7: kickoff return. But I'll tell you was I think Mike

496
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Speaker 7: Rabel If you look at Brabell. I followed Rabel's career

497
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Speaker 7: closely because him and I were the same year in

498
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Speaker 7: high school. He played in the Cleveland area where I'm from,

499
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Speaker 7: A tremendous player, went to Ohio State at a good career.

500
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Speaker 7: I would have never guessed Rabel was the guy. When

501
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Speaker 7: you look at Am and Luke Fickle, who coaches at Wisconsin,

502
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:40,400
Speaker 7: among other players, that would have wound up with that,

503
00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:43,080
Speaker 7: you know, double digit NFL career in terms of length

504
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Speaker 7: with the Steelers and the Patriots. But to bring the

505
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Speaker 7: toughness in the Tanaki, I think.

506
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Speaker 5: The team will embody and I think.

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Speaker 7: They won't get beaten situations like they did last year.

508
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Speaker 7: And listen, we all know Belichick's in a great coach.

509
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Speaker 7: But one thing I've always sid about Belichick, he didn't

510
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Speaker 7: win a lot without Tom Ready. As to the starting quarterback,

511
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Speaker 7: I go through five years in Cleveland, the numbers are there.

512
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Speaker 7: He made the playoffs once five years in Cleveland. What

513
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Speaker 7: did he do in Newland when Brady wasn't the starting quarterback?

514
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Speaker 7: I think Rabel just bring.

515
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Speaker 8: A football toughness.

516
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Speaker 7: He's, you know, here minding a little bit Jerry Sloan

517
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Speaker 7: in the NBA. Jerry Sloan is the kind of guy

518
00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:19,840
Speaker 7: that would fight his own player in essence, right, Rabel's

519
00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:21,720
Speaker 7: the kind of guy that if a guy's on the line,

520
00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:23,440
Speaker 7: that you know he gives a look back, Raviel's not

521
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Speaker 7: going to back down. And I think that'll be good.

522
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Speaker 7: I like them in the NFC, excuse me, in the AFC,

523
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Speaker 7: And then I think a team that's going to surprise

524
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Speaker 7: you negatively. In the NFC are the Dallas Cowboys. I

525
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Speaker 7: am not sold on this team. I'm not sold on

526
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Speaker 7: Dak Prescott. I think Seelamb's a very good receiver. I'm

527
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Speaker 7: not quite as high on him as the top three,

528
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Speaker 7: top five receivers everyone else is. I think Dallas got

529
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Speaker 7: a lot of question marks. I don't like this team,

530
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Speaker 7: so for me, some question marks Arizona. I would agree

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Speaker 7: with you if I could believe Kyler Murray could give

532
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Speaker 7: some consistency.

533
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Speaker 8: You know, you saw the interception through tonight.

534
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Speaker 7: I did't get as one pack, but that to me

535
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,719
Speaker 7: is Kyler Murray in a nutshell eight to nine out

536
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Speaker 7: of seventeen games in the season.

537
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Speaker 2: No, you're not wrong. He needs to have a bust

538
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:11,639
Speaker 2: out year. But I got a lot of faith in

539
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 2: Jonathan Gannon and that team really played hard last year.

540
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 2: They were a cover mass they did. Speaking of that,

541
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Speaker 2: the Raiders, I believe they were catching four four and

542
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Speaker 2: a half. That lines down to three Week one at

543
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Speaker 2: New England. Could do you think there's some value in

544
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 2: the Raiders? There's a dog Week one?

545
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Speaker 10: Yeah?

546
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Speaker 9: I think so.

547
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:30,960
Speaker 7: You you got a little bit more of an experienced

548
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:34,480
Speaker 7: quarterback and I'll tell you one thing. This is kind

549
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:36,440
Speaker 7: of not a fair comparison.

550
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Speaker 9: But I'll tell you Pete Carroll to.

551
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Speaker 7: Me in college and even with the with the Seahawks

552
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:45,800
Speaker 7: was one of the best coaches like Andy Reid, as

553
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:48,000
Speaker 7: we know off the bye week in the NFL. It

554
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:49,959
Speaker 7: was one of those great coaches to bet on when

555
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:52,720
Speaker 7: time to prepare Week one, I think I'll have a

556
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 7: team fired up. I love Pete's energy. Look, I'm a

557
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 7: huge Pete Carroll guy, have been since his days with

558
00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:00,640
Speaker 7: the with the Trojans. But I think part of it is,

559
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:03,440
Speaker 7: you know, if you if you're the Raiders, maybe you

560
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:05,200
Speaker 7: should have gone a little bit younger, bringing some new

561
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:08,240
Speaker 7: blood into the organization. And I think the thing with

562
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 7: te that it keeps a relaxed atmosphere around there, which

563
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 7: is good for most of the most things. But I

564
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:15,199
Speaker 7: also feel like it reflect upon what we saw on

565
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Speaker 7: the field against Seattle. We talked about Max Crosby and

566
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Speaker 7: Gino Smith, and I thought you bought up an excellent point.

567
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Speaker 7: You've got to change the culture if you're if you're

568
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:26,120
Speaker 7: a team that expects to win, expect to have hatred

569
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Speaker 7: when you go on the road.

570
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Speaker 2: A right you're wrapping it up with the mall Shaw,

571
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:32,879
Speaker 2: a long time NFL insider. I want to talk about

572
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Speaker 2: the Chiefs because I think rumors or their deminiers are

573
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 2: greatly exaggerated. I think the Chiefs are going to be

574
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:42,200
Speaker 2: right there. Again. Uh, Denver may win that division. I'm

575
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 2: not sure, but I think people who go to sleep

576
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:48,280
Speaker 2: on the Chiefs are going to be a little surprised.

577
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 2: I think they're going to come back with a fire

578
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 2: in their belly. Am I wrong?

579
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Speaker 11: No?

580
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Speaker 7: First of all, I want to say, I want to

581
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 7: address something about people picking Denver and all these other teams.

582
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Speaker 7: Show me your betting tickets for some real money. If

583
00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:00,800
Speaker 7: you're going to tell you something, No, Bernie, I'm gonna

584
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:03,720
Speaker 7: tell you what everybody likes to you. Just take that

585
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 7: random team.

586
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:05,240
Speaker 8: That they pick.

587
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 12: But here's the problem.

588
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 7: There's no ramifications in the media when you're wrong. But

589
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:13,000
Speaker 7: if you make it as a best then I respect it.

590
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:15,600
Speaker 7: But if you just sit there and throwing dark to

591
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:18,320
Speaker 7: the board and you hit one out of four, congratulations

592
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 7: all I told you the Bronco's gonna win. But if

593
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:22,240
Speaker 7: they're wrong, nobody's gonna say I'd come back and say

594
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:24,640
Speaker 7: I told you So here's the bottom line. Unless I

595
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 7: missed something in the last forty eight hour news cycle,

596
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 7: did Andy Reid retire to kip Patrick.

597
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Speaker 6: Mahomes retire, Not that I can tell.

598
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 8: Okay, then I'm.

599
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 7: Still sticking with that team.

600
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Speaker 8: That's the Chiefs.

601
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:40,880
Speaker 7: The bottom line is, Look, Sean Payton's a nice coach.

602
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 7: He's done a nice job.

603
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 8: But you know when Andy Reid, this guy.

604
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Speaker 7: If he sticks around, and I believe he's going to

605
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 7: stick around to the end of Pat mahomes career and

606
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 7: then he'll walk away. I think they'll eventually walk away together.

607
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Speaker 9: Andy Reid is going to go.

608
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Speaker 7: Down as the winning his coach in the history of

609
00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 7: the National Football League. Yeah, and I'm telling you, I

610
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 7: think Travis Kelsey's got a lot to prove this year.

611
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 7: I think they've got a good guy on the primim

612
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 7: I wasn't as high and worthy, but at times he's

613
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 7: shown some real flashes. His team has been good defensively

614
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 7: under Stagnola. You know, Chris Jones is still one of

615
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 7: the top defensive players in the NFL. The kid George

616
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 7: Carloftis has been pretty good at times. Don't count the

617
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:19,840
Speaker 7: demise of the Chiefs right now, I know a lot

618
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:21,440
Speaker 7: of people want to pick against them. They're kind of

619
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Speaker 7: you to take the Patriots. We have Chiefs fatigue right

620
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 7: now in sports. But the reality of it is, for

621
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Speaker 7: my money, the best non quarterback player in the National

622
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:31,959
Speaker 7: Football League is Justin Jefferson. But I'm going to tell

623
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 7: you the best player in the NFL is still Patrick Malmes.

624
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:38,240
Speaker 2: You're You're not wrong. Who do you want the ball?

625
00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 2: Whose hand do you want the ball in if your

626
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:42,480
Speaker 2: life's on the line with a minute to go in

627
00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 2: the game, Because he He's been there, done that. He

628
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 2: you know, he performs magic. Last thing, the the Philadelphia

629
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:57,000
Speaker 2: Eagles I thought were impressive and they even got well look,

630
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Speaker 2: let's just put it this way. We haven't had a

631
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 2: repeat Super Bowl in a while. Do the Eagles repeat?

632
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:07,760
Speaker 7: I think they have a great shot at repeating because

633
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 7: when I look at the NFC, I don't think it's

634
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 7: that difficult of a path for them to get through.

635
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 7: I'm not really Look, Washington was a very good team

636
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:20,480
Speaker 7: last year, but remember there were benefactors of playing the

637
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 7: weaker schedule because of the record the previous year with

638
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 7: the second worst record in the NFL. I think they

639
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 7: benefit from those types of situation. I think the Commanders

640
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 7: will have a little bit of a challenge this year.

641
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 7: I really like this Seagles team. I'm going to tell

642
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 7: you I was not high on Jalen Hurts coming out.

643
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 7: I watched him. I pretty much watched Jalen Hurts every

644
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 7: stamp of his career. Bernie, I had the best call

645
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:44,120
Speaker 7: of my life at halftime. I was ont Withnie Brent

646
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 7: Musberger at halftime in the Alabama Georgia DI I could

647
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 7: put Tua in Okay all of my life, but here

648
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,239
Speaker 7: at the bottom line, Jalen Hurts is showing he can

649
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 7: throw the ball with the actorsacy and makes the right play.

650
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Speaker 7: And I got to tell you, if I have a

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Speaker 7: team in the NFL that I rooted for and I

652
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 7: and I want to start in quarterback, yeah, you're taking

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Speaker 7: them a home with Josh Allenson. From a talent standpoint,

654
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Speaker 7: but from a disposition standpoint, there's not a single quarterback

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Speaker 7: I want more than Jalen Hurts. This guy is so calm,

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Speaker 7: cool and collected regardless of the situation.

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Speaker 10: He listen.

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Speaker 7: He's calmer than his coach.

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Speaker 8: I think his coaches had to tone it.

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Speaker 7: Down a level because he realized his quarterback looks much

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Speaker 7: better when he's much younger than him. Jalen Hurts, his

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Speaker 7: disposition playing with the team and the talent that they have.

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Speaker 7: I think the Eagles in a great position to get

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Speaker 7: back and win this thing.

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Speaker 2: And I got to tell you a great, great pull

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Speaker 2: on the situation when you know he had he was

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Speaker 2: yanked for for Tua in that championship game. He handled

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Speaker 2: it like a man the way he get acted to

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Speaker 2: that and then ended up transferring to Oklahoma, and he

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Speaker 2: has made himself into a very serviceable passer feel general.

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Speaker 2: And the thing about the Eagles, you know, it's like

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Speaker 2: the Georgia Bulldogs Reunion on defense, but they get after.

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Speaker 2: Football's played in three phases and h is certainly Jalen

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Speaker 2: Hurts does his part, but man, Philly can beat you

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00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 2: a lot of different ways. They got a lot of weapons.

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Speaker 2: I'm all great stuff. As always, we got to get

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Speaker 2: you on again, and good luck Bud on the upcoming season.

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Speaker 7: Bernie, thank you so much, appreciate it anytime.

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Speaker 2: Thank you. That's Amal Shaw, longtime NFL in Saturday. By

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Speaker 2: We're nineteen minutes away from where I sit. It's midnight

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Speaker 2: in Las Vegas. From where you sit, perhaps the same,

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Speaker 2: but it's midnight literally and figuratively everywhere. Because you're going

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Speaker 2: to get the last word. Three topics tonight and the

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Speaker 2: midnight hour, the most boring conversations when we all agree,

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Speaker 2: and I've got a couple topics here that we should

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Speaker 2: have plenty of disagreement. Get your fingers ready. Eight seven

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Speaker 2: seven ninety nine On Fox. I'm Bernie Frattle. We are

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Speaker 2: Radio Studios. Don't go away. You're listening to the Bernie

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Speaker 2: Frattle Show on Fox Sports Radio. All right, back in

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Speaker 2: the Bernie Fraddle Show, Fox Sports Radio, coming to you

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Speaker 2: live from the Las Vegas studios. We are twelve minutes

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Speaker 2: away from the midnight hour. You know the drill. Eight

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Speaker 2: seven seven nine nine, six, six, three, six, nine, eight seven,

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Speaker 2: seven ninety nine on Fox. The callers are what make

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Speaker 2: this hour so special. We like the difference of opinions.

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Speaker 2: Nobody holds back, so let's dive in. We I wasn't

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Speaker 2: gonna do this, but in light of his performance, which

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Speaker 2: is being talked about from mattis Abbaazanzibar Shidor Sanders is

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Speaker 2: in very much of the news, even got in Tony

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Speaker 2: Grocer's face in Cleveland. He says, how can we never

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Speaker 2: write anything good about me? And I think it ended

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Speaker 2: up amicably, but they covered you know, it checked every box.

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Speaker 2: And so my question to you tonight is Schudor Sanders,

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Speaker 2: do you now look at him as a guy who

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Speaker 2: might actually find his way into the starting lineup at

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Speaker 2: some point in Cleveland? Or hey, let's just pump the brakes.

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Speaker 2: It was a freaking preseason game. There are plenty of

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Speaker 2: other guys that had good debuts and it's only one game.

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Speaker 2: Let's see what he does from here. Or you have

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Speaker 2: some other thought. But I know everybody has some thought

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Speaker 2: on shoot Orf Sanders. Frank There's only two types of

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Speaker 2: people in the world. I think those who are rooting

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Speaker 2: for shoot or Sanders and those who are rooting against him.

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Speaker 2: You know who are. You're out there and I don't care.

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Speaker 2: You can call my show. Actually I'm neither. I don't

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Speaker 2: care what, but I root for the story. The story

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00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 2: would be that he finds his way into the lineup

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Speaker 2: and wins games. That would be the story. If he

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Speaker 2: washes out, just another story for the Naked City. There's

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Speaker 2: nothing different there, So give it. Give me your honest thoughts,

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Speaker 2: objective thoughts on shoot Or's hands, or they can be subjective.

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Speaker 2: He got himself a heck of an opportunity. He made

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Speaker 2: the most of his opportunity. He did some good things,

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Speaker 2: and he did some things that were okay. But again

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Speaker 2: I thought he showed preparations to give me your thoughts

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Speaker 2: on on your door. Secondly, you know all these past

736
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 2: years Jerry Jones has lolly gagged around, and then you know,

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00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 2: Emitt Smith got signed, and Ceedee Lamb got signed, and

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Speaker 2: Michael Irvin got signed, and you know now it's Michael Parsons,

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Speaker 2: and Parsons is supposed to make what twenty four million

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Speaker 2: this year?

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Speaker 8: Uh?

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Speaker 2: You know, but you know Max Crosby's making thirty five

743
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Speaker 2: thirty six miles Garrett forty million, Nick Bolsa there he

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Speaker 2: wants to get paid, and it seems like every year

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00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:01,359
Speaker 2: Jerry does this. We don't know why. Maybe he likes

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00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:03,399
Speaker 2: to hold onto his money. Maybe he's afraid. You see

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Speaker 2: what happened with Sean Slater. I'll talked about this last week.

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00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:09,720
Speaker 2: Maybe Jerry's got this thing where he's a little paranoid

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Speaker 2: that if he pays the guy that gets hurt with

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Speaker 2: Sean Slater. Just seven days before he towards ACL had

751
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:18,839
Speaker 2: signed one hundred and fourteen million dollars extension. Terrible news

752
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 2: for the Chargers. I don't know what makes Jerry tick.

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00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 2: This one's different though. I thought we'd get to the

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00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 2: last minute like Dak did. But there's two key differences.

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00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:30,880
Speaker 2: Jerry I'm hearing allegedly try to negotiate with Dak on

756
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:33,360
Speaker 2: the sly and Jack Dak shut it down, said, call

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Speaker 2: my agent. Michael Parsons is a nice guy, and he

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00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 2: got sucked into the conversation. They might have even talked

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Speaker 2: money for all I know. And now the agent is look,

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Speaker 2: the bottom line, is this the way this is going?

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Speaker 2: It feels like the Cowboys will be without Michael Parsons

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Speaker 2: through at least week one due to his unmet demands,

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Speaker 2: which recently included the trade request, which I thought was

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Speaker 2: not good for him. But that's his business. I like

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Speaker 2: Michael Parsons. So here's the question. You may think this

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00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 2: is a crazy question, but who side are you on? Here?

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00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:11,440
Speaker 2: Are you on Michael parsons side? I mean the Cobleys

768
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Speaker 2: don't win? Or are you on Jerry's side saying, hey,

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Speaker 2: it's his team. He can do what the hell he wants.

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Speaker 2: He's the king. It's good to be the king. He's,

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Speaker 2: you know, got this ten billion dollar business he presides

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Speaker 2: over and he can do what he wants. Whose side

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Speaker 2: are you on? You can't. It doesn't feel like he's

774
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:34,359
Speaker 2: gotten his money for paying Dak at least so far.

775
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 2: I'm not taking sides. I just get a kick out

776
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Speaker 2: of watching this because I like Michael Parsons. But his

777
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 2: shorts aren't clean here either, and I think he could

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Speaker 2: have gone about this a little differently. So we've got

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Speaker 2: shador Sanders. Give me your thoughts based on what you

780
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:52,800
Speaker 2: saw Friday night and how that might look going forward.

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00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:55,839
Speaker 2: Is anybody on Jerry Jones' side? I want to hear

782
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Speaker 2: from me. If not, there's no shortage of Jerry Jones haters.

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00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:00,879
Speaker 2: I get that, but the opposite the love is not hate.

784
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:03,400
Speaker 2: It some indifference. People have to be invested enough to

785
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 2: not like like Jerry Jones. That's the second question. The

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Speaker 2: third question is I've been I kind of do this

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Speaker 2: every year. So the Buffalo Bills are on Hard Knocks.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you watched it the season you

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Speaker 2: know premiere the other night. Easily the most boring Hard

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Speaker 2: Knocks I've ever seen. I don't really give a damn

791
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 2: about guys go and getting ice cream Sundays and talking stupid.

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00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:28,279
Speaker 2: Come on, man, But here's the question. Did you know

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Speaker 2: that no team featured on Hard Knocks has ever won

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Speaker 2: a Super Bowl. As a matter of fact, the team

795
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Speaker 2: that got the closest was the New York Jets, quartered

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Speaker 2: by a quarterback by Mark Sanchez, and they actually got

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Speaker 2: to the AFC Championship game they year, but didn't even

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Speaker 2: get to the Super Bowl. So no team on Hard

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Speaker 2: Knocks has ever made it to the Super Bowl. Is

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Speaker 2: there really a Hard Knocks curse? Some people think there

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Speaker 2: is matter like the old Sports Illustrated curse. Ei there

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Speaker 2: a Hard Knocks curse? Or could Buffalo break that curse

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Speaker 2: this year. So these are our three topics should say

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Speaker 2: based on his performance Friday night. Okay, he's one shot, deal, Hey,

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00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 2: he might win the job. Your thoughts, we had it wrong?

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00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:09,759
Speaker 2: Blah blah blah, you know where to go. Number two

807
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:13,239
Speaker 2: Jerry Jones versus Michael Parsons. Whose side are you on?

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Speaker 2: Take a side? Tell me why? In three the Buffalo

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Speaker 2: Bills are on hard knocks. There has never been a

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Speaker 2: team on hard knocks that even made it to a

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Speaker 2: Super Bowl, much less one one, eight, seven, seven, nine,

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Speaker 2: nine six six three six nine, eight, seven, seven, Night

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Speaker 2: and nine on Fox down him up. It's time the

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Speaker 2: Bernie Fraddle Show, the midnight hour and Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: Door Listen. Hey no, Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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Speaker 2: Yup, that's right, you heard the man. Bernie Fraddles show

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Speaker 2: keeps rolling right along. My name is Bernie Frowdle. We're

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Speaker 2: come to your line from the Fox Sports Radio studios

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Speaker 2: here in Las Vegas, just getting started to take up

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Speaker 2: to three and Pacific six a m. Eastern. And we've

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Speaker 2: got three good topics. All right, you saw your door

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Speaker 2: Friday night. Give me your thoughts. He's got a shot

823
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Speaker 2: to start. Will he make the team. It's one game,

824
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Speaker 2: you know, take a chill pill, just give you your

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00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 2: what your reaction was Jerry versus Michael Parsons. This one's

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Speaker 2: getting a little ugly, and I got some receiapts. I'll

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Speaker 2: bring a little later. Pick aside, who sad are you

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Speaker 2: on here? And I you know, I think most people

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Speaker 2: are gonna be on Parsons side, but some people can

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Speaker 2: be on Jerry's side as well. We'll have to see.

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Speaker 2: And then the Buffalo Bills are on hard knocks. You know,

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Speaker 2: there's never been a team in the history of hard

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Speaker 2: knocks who made the Super Bowl much less wanted. Could

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Speaker 2: Buffalo break that? Whereas in fact they're a hard knocks curse?

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Speaker 5: You got it?

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Speaker 2: Eight seven, seven, nine, nine, six six three sixty nine.

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Speaker 2: Doll him up. It's to bed that hour, all right.

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Speaker 2: We go to the Great Commonwealth of Massachusetts where Jim

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Speaker 2: leads us off. Jimmy and like Ricky Henderson, reliable. Good

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Speaker 2: to hear from you, buddy. What do you got for

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Speaker 2: us tonight?

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Speaker 7: Well?

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Speaker 6: I think Chudul will do okay. You know, he's he's

844
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Speaker 6: got matured, got a mature a little bit, and I

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Speaker 6: think he'll make the team. But where he goes from

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Speaker 6: there is uh in his own mind. You know, if

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Speaker 6: you want it, you got to you gotta play for

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Speaker 6: it and go all in. You just can't do all

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00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 6: the stuff outside of football, you know. So if he

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Speaker 6: does that, I think he'll be okay.

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Speaker 8: Uh.

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Speaker 10: As far as.

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Speaker 6: What's going on in Dallas, that's just a joke that's

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00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 6: been going on since Emma Smith and all the rest

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Speaker 6: of them players fight with Jerry and stuff like that.

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Speaker 6: It's like, who really cares if they win five games?

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Speaker 6: They're lucky, you know. I mean but in Jerry's defense though,

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Speaker 6: I mean, America is a great country because you can

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Speaker 6: have an IQ of a house plan become a billionaire,

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Speaker 6: you know.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, I mean.

862
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Speaker 6: America a lot of country. You gotta love it, you know.

863
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:46,000
Speaker 6: And what was the last one again, Well.

864
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 2: The Buffalo Bills and hard Knocks.

865
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 6: There's never been that hot knocks that it's such a

866
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 6: such the stupidest thing. I can't believe they even got

867
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 6: involved in that unless they get paid to do that.

868
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:58,239
Speaker 6: All the players or the or the team or the

869
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:00,799
Speaker 6: franchise or something. But that's a put a thing that's

870
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 6: on TV used to be really good.

871
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 2: Did you see the episode, the opening episode the other night,

872
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I wanted to kill myself with the chainsaw.

873
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:13,320
Speaker 2: Was so boring. It was really it was there. I

874
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 2: mean there was a they stretched it out with nothing

875
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 2: topics and nothing kind of there you go.

876
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:19,759
Speaker 13: There you go.

877
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:21,920
Speaker 6: But I do have one question for you on the

878
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 6: seventy yard field goal. I can't do my match real quick,

879
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:27,320
Speaker 6: but where was the ball? What yard line was it on?

880
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 6: Like their own?

881
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 2: Well, the goal post, the goal post is ten yards behind,

882
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 2: so you'd have to be you'd have to be on

883
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:36,719
Speaker 2: your own forty yard line.

884
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:38,439
Speaker 8: Oh my god.

885
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:40,759
Speaker 5: And that puts the ball at the That puts the

886
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:42,479
Speaker 5: ball at your own your.

887
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 2: Own forty yard line. Well, the t would be on

888
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:46,879
Speaker 2: your own forty yard line. The line of scream would

889
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:48,839
Speaker 2: you probably be on your own forty six yard line?

890
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 6: Wow, that's unbelievable, unreal. When I heard that, all I

891
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:56,319
Speaker 6: could think of was Tom Dempsey was club foot kicking

892
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 6: it against the main and I thought that was a

893
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:03,239
Speaker 6: great Bob lily throwing his helmet in the air, you know, like.

894
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 5: I can't believe what just happened, you know, well, right.

895
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 2: It happened against the hapless Lions in nineteen seventy and

896
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:13,400
Speaker 2: it became a legendary story. As you know, if you

897
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:16,400
Speaker 2: ever see the old NFL films, when Tom Dempsey, you know,

898
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:19,400
Speaker 2: jogged onto the field, players were like laughing, like what

899
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:22,920
Speaker 2: are we doing here? Yea banging through the uprights for

900
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 2: a game winner? By the way, that was a game winner.

901
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 2: All right, good stuff is always you appreciated Poppy. It's

902
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 2: San Diego back in the for what's happened to Poppy?

903
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 13: Hey, Bernie just right here and joined san Diego like

904
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 13: you're enjoying the beautiful Vegas. But look on the first topic,

905
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 13: gone should door standers?

906
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 10: Look?

907
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 13: I said, this is my mentor show, Ben Maller. I

908
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:46,959
Speaker 13: said it before the whole world jump on the tryan

909
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:49,320
Speaker 13: shut door standers. I was like, look, he's gonna have

910
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 13: them packing touchdowns. He's gonna go over to sixty five.

911
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 8: I guess that was a prop bet on it.

912
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:55,920
Speaker 9: It's gonna go easy, and he did.

913
00:44:56,320 --> 00:45:00,040
Speaker 13: Am I surprised. No, he's the start that I I

914
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 13: thought he was gonna be in translate going into the NFL. Look,

915
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:08,440
Speaker 13: it was cam Ward and he did a performance today

916
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:11,920
Speaker 13: with the Titans. He did good, right and Shador sanders

917
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:13,920
Speaker 13: Dus in my eyes, was supposed to be in the

918
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 13: first round. The Chador was supposed to be included, but

919
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:20,239
Speaker 13: you know, bad publicity, you know, with the team does this,

920
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 13: and that drama went down to the fifth. Now I

921
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:26,160
Speaker 13: thought that he got really humbled, you know him. And

922
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 13: not only that, he did amazing Bernie. He wasn't getting

923
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:31,839
Speaker 13: the first team rep, second team rep, even the third

924
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:32,399
Speaker 13: team rep.

925
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:34,560
Speaker 9: Like he was studying the.

926
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:37,320
Speaker 13: Playbook and he went out there and he shigned like

927
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 13: a Guimond. You know, does he have much?

928
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:40,000
Speaker 8: Right?

929
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 2: So where do you think he goes from here? Do

930
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:44,920
Speaker 2: you think he builds upon that and he's going to

931
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:47,680
Speaker 2: forage or was this is a one shot deal?

932
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:50,400
Speaker 13: No, no, he's going to grow from it. And then

933
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:52,840
Speaker 13: my next prediction, Bernie, you'll be the first one to

934
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 13: hear it right here on Park Sports Radio. They're going

935
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:57,239
Speaker 13: to play the Eagles, right and then they're like, oh yeah,

936
00:45:57,560 --> 00:45:59,279
Speaker 13: other people were saying, oh, he's not going to do

937
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 13: that against eig He will do that against the Eagles,

938
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:03,920
Speaker 13: whether it's going to be the first team, because he's

939
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 13: gonna go against the first team for a couple of snaps.

940
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:08,719
Speaker 13: Second team thirty team. He is going to go there

941
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 13: and he's gonna show that he's a star.

942
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 7: He was married.

943
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 2: How about let's talk about Jerry Jones versus Michael Parsons.

944
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:20,360
Speaker 13: Yeah, Jerry Jones, Michael Parsons.

945
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:20,759
Speaker 6: I love it.

946
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:21,800
Speaker 8: It's like a soap opera.

947
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 13: It's like a telenovela.

948
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 8: You know, two could have been true.

949
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 14: You know it's coming.

950
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:29,239
Speaker 13: Everyone's talking about it the whole uh Fox Sports Radio

951
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:31,040
Speaker 13: is talking about this, the whole world on.

952
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:32,880
Speaker 14: The internet, and everything sets upon that.

953
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:34,560
Speaker 13: Jerry Jones the smart.

954
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 8: Man he might be.

955
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:40,760
Speaker 5: I mean, if he's done the bad stuff, Bernie, maybe.

956
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:41,680
Speaker 13: I could be a million or so.

957
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 8: We could just hope for us, you know, there's really.

958
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:44,600
Speaker 14: Hope for us.

959
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 13: But on the marketing thing, he's a genius.

960
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:51,480
Speaker 2: Look he made But whose side are you picking here?

961
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 2: You can do what he wants? Are you on Parsons side?

962
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:59,879
Speaker 8: I'm taking Jerry Jones's side because look, Michael Parson, he's

963
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:01,640
Speaker 8: bluffing and Jerry Jones knows this.

964
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 13: He's a smart man. He's gonna do things Jerry's way

965
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:07,880
Speaker 13: or the highway. And I agree because you know, Michael

966
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:10,600
Speaker 13: Parker sent he could have done things better. Going with

967
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:13,960
Speaker 13: the agent, and not just immaturity of him, like oh,

968
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:16,320
Speaker 13: because everyone's doing it in social media and this and that.

969
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:18,800
Speaker 13: That's like that, No, do you have an agent for

970
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:21,239
Speaker 13: a reason? Why didn't you hit him up and him

971
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:23,280
Speaker 13: to the thirty work for you? Why are you showing

972
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:25,920
Speaker 13: this in public? It's like hush, hush, don't put it.

973
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:28,320
Speaker 13: But you know, Jerry Jones is doing what are you

974
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:31,239
Speaker 13: supposed to do? And I'm gonna decide, yes, he has

975
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:32,719
Speaker 13: reasons what he's doing.

976
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:35,360
Speaker 15: I'm in atract like and not only Hard Knocks.

977
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:38,520
Speaker 2: Curse Hard Knocks, curse Poppy, does it exist? Or do

978
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 2: you think Buffalo can break it this year?

979
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:43,560
Speaker 8: Look on hard Knocks. It was more interesting today with

980
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:48,440
Speaker 8: CD Lamb got rand over by the rest on Los Angeles.

981
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:49,280
Speaker 7: He got random.

982
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 8: Yeah, so that that's more of a better Hard Knocks

983
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 8: than what's going on right now.

984
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:57,240
Speaker 7: What's going on with hard Knocks?

985
00:47:57,280 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 15: I don't know.

986
00:47:57,920 --> 00:47:59,720
Speaker 13: I used to like it when you said Mark Sanchez

987
00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:02,440
Speaker 13: was the and Rex Hyan it was amazing.

988
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 8: They had a script.

989
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 13: You would see what everything they were doing, They would

990
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:08,480
Speaker 13: train what they would need and everything like crazy, and

991
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:09,880
Speaker 13: you see.

992
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 2: Players are getting cut. I didn't. I mean, of course

993
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:14,880
Speaker 2: some years you've heard, you know, more f bombs and

994
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:17,960
Speaker 2: then you know in Glengarry again Ross. But I mean

995
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:20,600
Speaker 2: the crazy the thing about it is this, there's just

996
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:23,360
Speaker 2: no content there, Poppy. I appreciate your call, man, thank you,

997
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:27,120
Speaker 2: and uh, we'll see where Shador goes from here. Now, Christopher,

998
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:30,280
Speaker 2: is this the Christopher that moved from North Carolina to London?

999
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:32,759
Speaker 9: That's sure it is.

1000
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:36,480
Speaker 2: I got a beach good morning. It's about eight o'clock

1001
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:38,080
Speaker 2: there in the morning, eight or nine am.

1002
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 15: There in London, just after it.

1003
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 8: It is.

1004
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:46,040
Speaker 2: Really I was there in London last year with my

1005
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:48,160
Speaker 2: wife and I loved the London man. It was amazing

1006
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:51,279
Speaker 2: city to me, so good. I'm glad. I can't wait

1007
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:54,320
Speaker 2: mand morning drive there in London so that you know,

1008
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:56,280
Speaker 2: maybe we negotiate my contract.

1009
00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:58,600
Speaker 16: Thing is now is I have to focus on soccer

1010
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 16: versus regular So let's talk about mister.

1011
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:03,160
Speaker 2: Sanders, okay please.

1012
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 16: Mister Sanders has potential and here's why. Let's think about

1013
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:10,920
Speaker 16: mister Brady. Mister Brady was a very smart man, drafted

1014
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:14,399
Speaker 16: in the fifth round and had potential. Now it all

1015
00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:17,880
Speaker 16: hinges on the Browns offense. If a key it to

1016
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:21,920
Speaker 16: his strengths there's a possibility if Cleveland continues to do

1017
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:24,600
Speaker 16: what they've done for the last twenty five years, there's

1018
00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 16: no chance. The man can only perform based on the offense.

1019
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:28,200
Speaker 7: That he's given.

1020
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 2: So you know what, that's fair. So that's fair.

1021
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:35,520
Speaker 16: So if they give him the chance, there is potential.

1022
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:38,200
Speaker 16: But it all hinges on what the coaching staff does.

1023
00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:40,400
Speaker 16: So let's watch and see what he does. Put him

1024
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:43,279
Speaker 16: up against the second squad against it on week four

1025
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:46,920
Speaker 16: or I should say three of the preseason when he's

1026
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:50,080
Speaker 16: going up against second stringers in the NFL. Then let's

1027
00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:50,960
Speaker 16: see what he does for a.

1028
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:54,920
Speaker 7: Half versus a series. That will give you a better.

1029
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:59,319
Speaker 16: Indication he needs time, but having preparation, I kill four.

1030
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:01,400
Speaker 7: Let's talk about mister Jones.

1031
00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:06,359
Speaker 16: Yeah, okay, NFL prints money like his toilet paper.

1032
00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:07,759
Speaker 17: They have so much of it.

1033
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:09,080
Speaker 8: He says.

1034
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:14,000
Speaker 16: The only way mister Jones can make the Dallas Cowboys marketable.

1035
00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:16,920
Speaker 16: They're going to be lucky if they win six games

1036
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:20,680
Speaker 16: this year. So he knows he has one of the

1037
00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:24,319
Speaker 16: best NFL players on the green. Why make this an

1038
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:26,520
Speaker 16: issue because that's the only way they can make the

1039
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:30,719
Speaker 16: Cowboys an issue. Let's be realistic. The player is going

1040
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:33,759
Speaker 16: to get what they want. The NFL prints money like

1041
00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:34,920
Speaker 16: it's going out of style.

1042
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:37,520
Speaker 7: There's no issue. Jerry will pay him.

1043
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:38,759
Speaker 2: It'll be too much.

1044
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:42,200
Speaker 16: Parsons will be happy and the NFL will move on.

1045
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:45,160
Speaker 16: But Jerry has to keep the team in at the presence,

1046
00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:47,960
Speaker 16: and this is how he does it. I give him credit.

1047
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:51,160
Speaker 16: I give both sides credits because both sides are going

1048
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:54,640
Speaker 16: to win. Jerry will get what he wants in the end,

1049
00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:58,000
Speaker 16: and so will mister Parsons. Neither side's going to win

1050
00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:02,040
Speaker 16: the super Bowl, so who cares. Let's move on to

1051
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:06,439
Speaker 16: the Buffalo Bills. Hard knocks is a waste of time.

1052
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:09,320
Speaker 16: Think of it this way, Bernie, what happens when you

1053
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:12,480
Speaker 16: get put on the old Madden NFL game? Did you

1054
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:16,960
Speaker 16: ever win anything? No, it's the same curse. There's nothing

1055
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:20,839
Speaker 16: that's profitable for hard knocks. Hard Knocks is just trying

1056
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:24,080
Speaker 16: to stay irrelevant. I enjoyed the days when we had

1057
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:26,640
Speaker 16: the f bombs, when we had the issues with the

1058
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:29,439
Speaker 16: players that were truly getting cut. This is now trying

1059
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:33,040
Speaker 16: to be made as family television. I'm sorry, and NFL

1060
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:36,360
Speaker 16: Locker Room is not family television, Boys and girls, this

1061
00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:39,360
Speaker 16: is the real deal. These men are out there killing

1062
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:42,960
Speaker 16: themselves to make the game what it is. It's not

1063
00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:48,120
Speaker 16: candy and Royers's, it's not caking ice cream. It's literally

1064
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:52,799
Speaker 16: these men kill themselves to perform for the fans. That's

1065
00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:55,560
Speaker 16: the real NFL. That's what should be the short on

1066
00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:57,840
Speaker 16: hard Knocks, not this other sramp.

1067
00:51:57,960 --> 00:51:58,640
Speaker 2: But appreciate it.

1068
00:51:58,680 --> 00:51:59,080
Speaker 11: What do we know?

1069
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:03,040
Speaker 2: A stranger man great London debut. Christopher was a caller

1070
00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:05,000
Speaker 2: who lived in North Carolina, and she said, a I

1071
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:08,480
Speaker 2: believe a job transfer to London. Pretty cool stuff, Kevin

1072
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:12,480
Speaker 2: in Culver City. Welcome into the Bernie Frattle Show. Have

1073
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:14,279
Speaker 2: you called us before? It's just your first time.

1074
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:18,640
Speaker 8: Yes, I called you guys a few respeck about Caron James.

1075
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:22,440
Speaker 2: Okay, A welcome in again, so take it away and

1076
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:23,239
Speaker 2: start with your door.

1077
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:28,879
Speaker 8: Well, Shador Sanders is a pure case of ignorance by

1078
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:32,560
Speaker 8: a lot of these owners and gms. Then Alice talking

1079
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Speaker 8: to h I'm not talking about you. Go to pass

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00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:38,200
Speaker 8: on this guy, particularly the Las Vegas Raiders and Mark Davis.

1081
00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:41,440
Speaker 8: When I saw him, I saw Tom Brady because he

1082
00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:43,360
Speaker 8: was raised by Tom Brady, and if you look at

1083
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:46,520
Speaker 8: this game he had, he had to digging duck, quick release,

1084
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:49,759
Speaker 8: ability to throw from the pocket with poison ease.

1085
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Speaker 15: And it was a beautiful deep ball.

1086
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:54,520
Speaker 8: Don Braden have a great arm coming out of Michigan.

1087
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Speaker 10: But he was accurate.

1088
00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:57,799
Speaker 8: I saw accuracy. I saw a little Patrick Mahomes to him.

1089
00:52:57,800 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 8: The way he was able to scramble like Mahomes does

1090
00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:03,520
Speaker 8: not look ch Lamar Jackson, but cool and smooth. Now

1091
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:05,880
Speaker 8: with the Raiders, you got brought Bowers, perfect player for

1092
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:08,200
Speaker 8: like a Shador Sanders. You got to asking Gent a

1093
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:10,560
Speaker 8: great running back with imperfect to get him in the

1094
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:12,879
Speaker 8: fourth or fifth round. But for some reason, Mark Davis

1095
00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:14,879
Speaker 8: didn't like him. And that's why the Raiders are the Raiders.

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00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:15,560
Speaker 12: They're gonna Raider.

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00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:18,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, they said they acted like they liked him, and

1098
00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:22,400
Speaker 2: then they rafted seven players the Raiders did before shudor Standers. Now,

1099
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:23,800
Speaker 2: to be fair, I if I were the Raiders, I

1100
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:26,239
Speaker 2: wouldn't have drafted him either. But you make some good points.

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00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:30,080
Speaker 2: Just move along. Jerry Jones versus Michael Parsons, who sighed

1102
00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:30,320
Speaker 2: you on.

1103
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:32,840
Speaker 17: This is Jerry being Jerry.

1104
00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:34,399
Speaker 6: This is why he's an owner.

1105
00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:37,640
Speaker 8: But I'm the Michael Parsons because if you remember Michael

1106
00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:40,960
Speaker 8: Parsons who allowed other players to get paid Ceedee lamb

1107
00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:44,480
Speaker 8: Dak Prescott. He said, my time will come. Well, hey,

1108
00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:47,680
Speaker 8: it's time the back of the brief. Trust this guy's

1109
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:50,080
Speaker 8: on the top defensive end linebackers in the game. You

1110
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:53,000
Speaker 8: gotta pay the man, Jerry, he leads your defense. You know,

1111
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:55,760
Speaker 8: Michael Parsons, you're not winning three four games?

1112
00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:59,480
Speaker 2: You got, Michael, Yeah, you're you're not your excellent points.

1113
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:01,960
Speaker 2: I don't disagree with anything, he said real quickly Hard

1114
00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:04,400
Speaker 2: Knocks Buffalo? Is there a curse? Can Buffalo break it?

1115
00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:09,040
Speaker 8: Absolutely? They can? And then appealing thing I like about

1116
00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:11,799
Speaker 8: Buffalo on Hard Knocks is you've got a team who

1117
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:14,120
Speaker 8: came off of being so close to being Kansas City

1118
00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:16,080
Speaker 8: and maybe winning the Super Bowl and being in Philadelphia

1119
00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:18,600
Speaker 8: being there, he goes, what is the comeback? How do

1120
00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:22,160
Speaker 8: you regroup? Is Sam McDermott the coach? How are the

1121
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:24,880
Speaker 8: players receiving him? How is Josh Salden coming off of

1122
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:28,480
Speaker 8: an MVP season where he wins the MVP very wonderful, beautiful,

1123
00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:31,200
Speaker 8: eighty fie field for centers? How is he handling all

1124
00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:33,880
Speaker 8: this getting ready for maybe his most important regular season

1125
00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:36,719
Speaker 8: of his career coming up. Let's see that. But let's

1126
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:39,520
Speaker 8: tap into it, and let's see how the Buffalo Bill's

1127
00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:43,279
Speaker 8: handled being the team of everybody's favorite as opposed to

1128
00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:44,879
Speaker 8: being the team that everybody says can.

1129
00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:45,399
Speaker 5: Beat the Kiefs.

1130
00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:46,600
Speaker 8: Now they're the hunting.

1131
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:47,719
Speaker 9: What do they do now?

1132
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:49,799
Speaker 8: How do they react to that? Hart Knocks has got

1133
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:52,239
Speaker 8: to tap into that more, get more locker room, you know,

1134
00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:54,600
Speaker 8: let the f bombs fly a little bit. This is

1135
00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:57,440
Speaker 8: in Sephany Street, this is hard knocked, ring it out.

1136
00:54:57,480 --> 00:54:59,560
Speaker 8: Bring up the NFL locker room, baby, come on, let's go.

1137
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:02,879
Speaker 2: All right, thanks so much, Kevin, appreciate you. And what's

1138
00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:05,160
Speaker 2: interesting is, I don't know if Sean McDermott, I mean,

1139
00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:08,080
Speaker 2: Tony Dungee, I don't think fired one F bomba's entire career.

1140
00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:11,839
Speaker 2: I'll tell the story about that another time. But yeah, look,

1141
00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:15,040
Speaker 2: we'll see where they go. But we Episode one, to me,

1142
00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:18,800
Speaker 2: was a dud. All right, We're off to a rollicking start.

1143
00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:21,719
Speaker 2: We've got Bruce and Santa Monica. We've got Steven, Kansas City,

1144
00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:25,520
Speaker 2: Jerome and Charleston, Kurt and San Clementi, California. Hang tight,

1145
00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:27,239
Speaker 2: I do want to hear from all of you. We'll

1146
00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:29,879
Speaker 2: get you as quickly as we can. The Midnight Hour

1147
00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:32,200
Speaker 2: is off and running. I Bernie Frider, We come to

1148
00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:35,440
Speaker 2: you live from the Las Vegas Fox Sports Radio Studios.

1149
00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:37,399
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1150
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:38,279
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1151
00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:41,480
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1152
00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:44,920
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1153
00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:49,120
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1154
00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:50,560
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1155
00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:53,280
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1156
00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:57,759
Speaker 2: and the Midnight Hour continues. Let's go back out to

1157
00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:01,640
Speaker 2: the phone lines of Bruce Santa Monica, California joined us.

1158
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:03,440
Speaker 2: Thanks for hanging on, Bruce, Welcome in.

1159
00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:08,799
Speaker 11: Hey, good morning. Like a lot of people, I don't

1160
00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:11,040
Speaker 11: I really like Jerry Jones. I never liked them, haven't

1161
00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:12,919
Speaker 11: liked them for a long time. But in this case

1162
00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:16,160
Speaker 11: I agree with them based on this, I think that

1163
00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:21,080
Speaker 11: the NFL establishment and the sports establishment in general don't

1164
00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:24,680
Speaker 11: value the don't value players correctly, never have if you

1165
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:27,800
Speaker 11: listen to all this shows of so called experts. In

1166
00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:30,680
Speaker 11: my humble opinion, the quarterback is eighty percent of your team.

1167
00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:35,200
Speaker 11: The offensive line, which is five three d and fifty

1168
00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:38,759
Speaker 11: pound tanks to protect the quarterback or ten percent, there's

1169
00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:42,279
Speaker 11: ninety and the rest of the whole team fricking team.

1170
00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:46,040
Speaker 5: Interesting point, and I think Jerry Jones knows that.

1171
00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:47,160
Speaker 11: I think Jerry Jones knows that.

1172
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:51,080
Speaker 2: Well, Okay, just to dive in for half a second

1173
00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:55,400
Speaker 2: this day and age after the quarterback, quarterbacks everything, you

1174
00:56:55,480 --> 00:56:56,960
Speaker 2: got to protect him, and then you've got to get

1175
00:56:56,960 --> 00:56:58,920
Speaker 2: to the other team's quarterback and kill him. So I

1176
00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:01,600
Speaker 2: think there's some of that, right, but it's not the

1177
00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:05,880
Speaker 2: be all, end all. But continue, I'm I'm subscribing to

1178
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:06,319
Speaker 2: your thought.

1179
00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:07,400
Speaker 5: I hear it, I hear you.

1180
00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:07,880
Speaker 2: Go ahead.

1181
00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:11,239
Speaker 11: Well, a lot of people would say, well, no, the

1182
00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:16,960
Speaker 11: the the cornerbacks and the wide receivers and the defensive

1183
00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:18,960
Speaker 11: ends are the best athletes on the team better than

1184
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:21,160
Speaker 11: the quarterback. Well that's probably true in most cases.

1185
00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:24,240
Speaker 7: They are better athletes, but there's hundreds of them circling

1186
00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:26,200
Speaker 7: in the world at any one time, either in the

1187
00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:30,120
Speaker 7: NFL or other either pro leagues or the top levels

1188
00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:30,640
Speaker 7: of the college.

1189
00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:32,960
Speaker 2: Tak on your point, Bruce, Max Crossley's going to make

1190
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:34,920
Speaker 2: thirty six million this year. The Raiders are going nowhere.

1191
00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:37,440
Speaker 2: Miles Garrett's going to make forty million this year. The

1192
00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:40,439
Speaker 2: Browns are going nowhere, So your point has merit. Any

1193
00:57:40,520 --> 00:57:42,680
Speaker 2: thoughts on Shador Standers in his debut and where he

1194
00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:44,960
Speaker 2: goes from here, Well, in.

1195
00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:48,240
Speaker 11: My opinion on Shador Sanders is he's in the same

1196
00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:53,000
Speaker 11: mode as Johnny Mandal. He's a spoiled punk of a

1197
00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:57,200
Speaker 11: kid who has a disturbing sense of self entitlement. But

1198
00:57:57,600 --> 00:58:00,800
Speaker 11: a lot of case in a lot of ways, he's

1199
00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:03,040
Speaker 11: worse than Johnny Manziel because he's got a father who's

1200
00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:06,960
Speaker 11: even more spoiled and more self entitled. So I think

1201
00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:10,240
Speaker 11: in the end, uh, he's gonna something will go wrong

1202
00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:13,200
Speaker 11: and he'll make enemies on his team, He'll make enemies

1203
00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:15,960
Speaker 11: in the media, and I just think I don't think

1204
00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:18,360
Speaker 11: his talent is enough to overcome his bad attitude.

1205
00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:21,840
Speaker 2: Anything on Hard Knocks, is there a legit curse?

1206
00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:22,000
Speaker 8: There?

1207
00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:24,000
Speaker 2: Can Buffalo break that this year?

1208
00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:26,400
Speaker 11: No offense to that one.

1209
00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:28,520
Speaker 8: I haven't seen Hard Knocks, so I know.

1210
00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:31,240
Speaker 2: I appreciate the candor. By the way, is this your

1211
00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:32,640
Speaker 2: first time calling the show, Bruce?

1212
00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:37,640
Speaker 11: I've called during the week to Ben show quite a

1213
00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:38,160
Speaker 11: few times.

1214
00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:45,000
Speaker 2: Midnight You're I appreciate the strong opinions. Thank you very much,

1215
00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:48,600
Speaker 2: and don't be a stranger. Stephen Kansas City. I know

1216
00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:50,760
Speaker 2: it's not your first time, buddy, so I'm very curious

1217
00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:52,360
Speaker 2: what you've got to say on these subjects.

1218
00:58:55,200 --> 00:59:00,680
Speaker 18: Yeah, bit strong first call by our guys. Sam Listen,

1219
00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:06,360
Speaker 18: I love the Chaduor Sanders story. I think it's one

1220
00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:09,560
Speaker 18: of the highlights of the of the season so far.

1221
00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:13,640
Speaker 18: That you know, it's emblematic of America. People could learn

1222
00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:14,120
Speaker 18: a lot.

1223
00:59:14,080 --> 00:59:16,800
Speaker 10: From this because the kid is a young kid.

1224
00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:19,560
Speaker 18: He made a mistake. He thought he could engineer his

1225
00:59:19,720 --> 00:59:23,240
Speaker 18: way on to whatever team he wanted, and he lost

1226
00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:24,920
Speaker 18: ten million dollars.

1227
00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:27,040
Speaker 12: And maybe maybe the kid learned something.

1228
00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:28,720
Speaker 18: Maybe he learned something, and maybe.

1229
00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:31,400
Speaker 2: That's a really good angle, Steve, I got to tell you.

1230
00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:33,840
Speaker 2: Do you remember years ago when Joshua was not a

1231
00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:38,120
Speaker 2: CLA was drafting ninth overall. He wasn't that good. He

1232
00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:40,720
Speaker 2: was so pissed off. He was chewing nails. He was

1233
00:59:40,720 --> 00:59:42,960
Speaker 2: going to prove the world he was wrong. He was

1234
00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:46,240
Speaker 2: so bad. I mean, do you almost drive your car

1235
00:59:46,360 --> 00:59:49,360
Speaker 2: Farrow talking about him. There's an old thing. You can't

1236
00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:51,600
Speaker 2: control what happens, but you can't get draw all you react.

1237
00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:55,400
Speaker 2: Shador Sanders since falling to pick number one, forty four

1238
00:59:55,480 --> 00:59:58,280
Speaker 2: or whatever the hell it was, he's actually really conducted

1239
00:59:58,360 --> 01:00:02,400
Speaker 2: himself like a consummate professional. He's reacting quite you're onto.

1240
01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:05,840
Speaker 10: An angle there, exactly. That's exactly right.

1241
01:00:05,920 --> 01:00:09,200
Speaker 18: And this this could be a learning experience for a

1242
01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:12,000
Speaker 18: lot of people, especially in the w n B. A.

1243
01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:21,640
Speaker 2: We're gonna pretend I never heard that word. Yes, yes, yes,

1244
01:00:21,720 --> 01:00:26,800
Speaker 2: And people will people forgive you.

1245
01:00:27,280 --> 01:00:30,720
Speaker 18: Oh, sure, people will forgive you all day long if

1246
01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:32,840
Speaker 18: you produce on the field. And he may me get

1247
01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:37,760
Speaker 18: a little bit humbled to watch out this kid where.

1248
01:00:37,600 --> 01:00:40,880
Speaker 2: He's got his whole life ahead him, all right, Jerry

1249
01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:42,880
Speaker 2: versus Michael quickly aside.

1250
01:00:43,120 --> 01:00:46,200
Speaker 18: Okay, well, I'm just an old country lawyer, but I

1251
01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:49,520
Speaker 18: think Jerry is kind of crazy like a fox here

1252
01:00:49,640 --> 01:00:53,400
Speaker 18: as as usual. And there was an interesting study in

1253
01:00:53,440 --> 01:00:57,040
Speaker 18: the Atlantic. They said most of the fans consider Micah

1254
01:00:57,120 --> 01:01:00,920
Speaker 18: one of the most overrated players on the on the Cowboys,

1255
01:01:01,040 --> 01:01:04,080
Speaker 18: So Jerry knows that there's a lot of fan base.

1256
01:01:04,520 --> 01:01:06,880
Speaker 18: He may end up training Mike if he was. I mean,

1257
01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:08,320
Speaker 18: he's getting up there in years.

1258
01:01:08,720 --> 01:01:09,640
Speaker 10: I mean, I don't know.

1259
01:01:10,560 --> 01:01:13,400
Speaker 18: He may do something that's been pained.

1260
01:01:13,160 --> 01:01:15,480
Speaker 2: About, kind of like a like a you know the

1261
01:01:15,560 --> 01:01:18,840
Speaker 2: Khalil mactrade that the Raiders did years ago. Uh huh,

1262
01:01:19,040 --> 01:01:21,320
Speaker 2: But I don't think based on people I talked to her,

1263
01:01:21,320 --> 01:01:23,600
Speaker 2: they're not going on that road. But right again, he

1264
01:01:23,720 --> 01:01:27,120
Speaker 2: raised an interesting issue. Not everybody is kicking Jerry in

1265
01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:29,600
Speaker 2: the shins like I thought they might. Finally hard knocks,

1266
01:01:29,640 --> 01:01:30,840
Speaker 2: my friend? Is there a curse there?

1267
01:01:31,040 --> 01:01:31,200
Speaker 6: Oh?

1268
01:01:32,160 --> 01:01:35,160
Speaker 18: Oh, I tell you what. They They need to focus

1269
01:01:35,360 --> 01:01:39,000
Speaker 18: on the quarterback and his girlfriend like Taylor swib boy

1270
01:01:39,080 --> 01:01:40,640
Speaker 18: that she's a hot tomato.

1271
01:01:40,760 --> 01:01:42,280
Speaker 8: That that I would watch that.

1272
01:01:42,560 --> 01:01:45,560
Speaker 18: That Josh Allen and his and his wife now that

1273
01:01:46,120 --> 01:01:47,840
Speaker 18: I would be interested in that. But I'm not so

1274
01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:49,960
Speaker 18: interested in the bills on the hard dog to take

1275
01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:50,439
Speaker 18: care of bird.

1276
01:01:51,120 --> 01:01:55,480
Speaker 2: Okay, thanks, more strong opinions today. Speaking of strong opinion,

1277
01:01:55,600 --> 01:01:58,160
Speaker 2: just welcoming a gentleman, a very busy man about town.

1278
01:01:59,160 --> 01:02:02,440
Speaker 2: Former leits of Harold Melvin and the Blue Notes. Le's

1279
01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:05,720
Speaker 2: welcome in Jerome from Charleston. What's happening Jerome?

1280
01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:06,600
Speaker 8: Yeah?

1281
01:02:06,800 --> 01:02:09,200
Speaker 15: You wish? You wish I could sing like that?

1282
01:02:09,600 --> 01:02:11,640
Speaker 2: Wait a minute, mate, was it Archie Bille the drills

1283
01:02:11,760 --> 01:02:14,480
Speaker 2: or was it? Never mind? Go ahead, droom, you got

1284
01:02:14,520 --> 01:02:14,840
Speaker 2: the floor?

1285
01:02:15,720 --> 01:02:18,480
Speaker 15: You wish I could sing that he'll never happen. I've

1286
01:02:18,520 --> 01:02:19,760
Speaker 15: never had that much talent.

1287
01:02:20,200 --> 01:02:22,400
Speaker 2: I heard you could sing tenor ten or twelve miles away.

1288
01:02:22,400 --> 01:02:23,840
Speaker 2: All right, you do take the floor.

1289
01:02:25,240 --> 01:02:28,440
Speaker 15: Hey, look here, I'm imagined that guy knows so much

1290
01:02:28,480 --> 01:02:32,400
Speaker 15: Abouston door stand until you never Mad's okay, But I

1291
01:02:32,520 --> 01:02:35,160
Speaker 15: don't know how this Cleveland is going to go. But

1292
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Speaker 15: all I know is quarterback is one of the toping

1293
01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:42,920
Speaker 15: positions to master in the NFL. Nobody masters and the

1294
01:02:43,040 --> 01:02:46,720
Speaker 15: long did you watch the Suber Bowl Patrick mahomes one

1295
01:02:46,760 --> 01:02:49,920
Speaker 15: of the most accomplished mother and take quarterbacks running for

1296
01:02:50,080 --> 01:02:54,960
Speaker 15: his life? Okay, it's not just a meeting again, it's

1297
01:02:55,000 --> 01:02:58,360
Speaker 15: a weekend. So the more they can put around him

1298
01:02:58,760 --> 01:03:00,800
Speaker 15: to pop him up and make him look good, the

1299
01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:03,640
Speaker 15: better is it is for him. But I'm not drinking

1300
01:03:03,720 --> 01:03:06,760
Speaker 15: the school aid like these other people. After one prezas

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01:03:06,800 --> 01:03:07,080
Speaker 15: a game.

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01:03:07,360 --> 01:03:12,760
Speaker 2: That's fair, nobody plan, Come on, that's okay. I enjoy

1303
01:03:12,800 --> 01:03:16,960
Speaker 2: your calls. Man. You you you you're always You're unpredictable,

1304
01:03:17,040 --> 01:03:19,280
Speaker 2: and I and I like that. So let's let's jump

1305
01:03:19,320 --> 01:03:21,880
Speaker 2: to go ahead. I want to get Jerry Versus at

1306
01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:22,520
Speaker 2: MICA next.

1307
01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:25,600
Speaker 15: Hey, you better get your money, man, before you step

1308
01:03:25,680 --> 01:03:29,440
Speaker 15: out on that field, because I mean they're already cotton

1309
01:03:29,480 --> 01:03:32,720
Speaker 15: guys off the field and in the preseason. Okay, you

1310
01:03:32,840 --> 01:03:35,600
Speaker 15: better get your money because you just never know how

1311
01:03:35,880 --> 01:03:39,520
Speaker 15: what was that Glamborough say, NFL not for long. Nobody

1312
01:03:39,640 --> 01:03:42,200
Speaker 15: knows how long you're gonna play, So you better get

1313
01:03:42,240 --> 01:03:45,480
Speaker 15: your money first because otherwise I'm not stepping on to

1314
01:03:45,560 --> 01:03:46,080
Speaker 15: that field.

1315
01:03:46,960 --> 01:03:48,680
Speaker 2: It doesn't look like he has either, but it's gonna

1316
01:03:48,680 --> 01:03:50,400
Speaker 2: come to it. It's gonna come to a reckoning here

1317
01:03:50,480 --> 01:03:52,959
Speaker 2: within three weeks. So it's gonna be interesting to watch

1318
01:03:53,600 --> 01:03:55,680
Speaker 2: Buffalo Bill's Hard Knocks. Is there a curse there?

1319
01:03:56,480 --> 01:03:56,640
Speaker 7: Hey?

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Speaker 15: I just I just want Allen to know me. I'm

1321
01:04:01,480 --> 01:04:04,000
Speaker 15: not getting mad unless I got a premup. Man, I

1322
01:04:04,040 --> 01:04:07,080
Speaker 15: don't care how beautiful that woman is. I don't care

1323
01:04:07,320 --> 01:04:09,520
Speaker 15: because even good luck and people get sick of each

1324
01:04:09,520 --> 01:04:12,520
Speaker 15: other after a while. I'm getting the prenup and then

1325
01:04:12,680 --> 01:04:14,919
Speaker 15: she's in the business work. You gotta kiss out the people.

1326
01:04:15,200 --> 01:04:18,400
Speaker 15: Oh hell no, oh, no way, I'm married her.

1327
01:04:19,280 --> 01:04:20,360
Speaker 9: I'm never mad.

1328
01:04:20,520 --> 01:04:26,040
Speaker 15: Actor run act, Nope, not doing it. Okay, along all right, Jerome.

1329
01:04:26,200 --> 01:04:30,000
Speaker 2: That is the world according to Jerome, and that gets

1330
01:04:30,040 --> 01:04:32,200
Speaker 2: at you kick out of his calls because man, you

1331
01:04:32,600 --> 01:04:37,520
Speaker 2: never know where the hell he's coming from. Curtin San Clementi, California, Farma, Homer,

1332
01:04:37,640 --> 01:04:40,440
Speaker 2: Richard Nixon, Welcome in, Kurt Burn.

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Speaker 12: It's been too long.

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01:04:41,800 --> 01:04:42,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, good to hear from you.

1335
01:04:44,240 --> 01:04:49,560
Speaker 12: Good to hear your voice. Also, I'll be quick, durable

1336
01:04:49,720 --> 01:04:54,160
Speaker 12: Sanders the top ten pick going in the fifth round.

1337
01:04:55,080 --> 01:04:58,360
Speaker 12: Some short sighted gms. If you ask me, I think

1338
01:04:58,400 --> 01:04:59,760
Speaker 12: it'll start by week four.

1339
01:05:00,360 --> 01:05:01,960
Speaker 5: Okay, he's been he's.

1340
01:05:01,800 --> 01:05:05,880
Speaker 12: Been practicing as a as a boy against one of

1341
01:05:06,160 --> 01:05:10,920
Speaker 12: the NFL history's best corners of all time. And he's

1342
01:05:10,960 --> 01:05:14,720
Speaker 12: been practicing against his dad, probably since he was.

1343
01:05:14,720 --> 01:05:15,320
Speaker 10: A little boy.

1344
01:05:15,960 --> 01:05:22,680
Speaker 12: Uh, Michael Parsons and mister Jones. Michael Parsons is probably

1345
01:05:22,760 --> 01:05:23,680
Speaker 12: singing that song.

1346
01:05:24,760 --> 01:05:25,760
Speaker 5: Me and mister.

1347
01:05:25,800 --> 01:05:28,480
Speaker 12: Jones, we got a thing going.

1348
01:05:28,680 --> 01:05:32,800
Speaker 2: All both getting ugly. I gotta tell you it's it's

1349
01:05:33,000 --> 01:05:36,640
Speaker 2: it's I'm hearing some things I I was dismissive. They'll

1350
01:05:36,720 --> 01:05:38,520
Speaker 2: just pay him like they did Dak. They'll just pay

1351
01:05:38,560 --> 01:05:39,000
Speaker 2: him like they did.

1352
01:05:39,080 --> 01:05:39,240
Speaker 10: See.

1353
01:05:39,880 --> 01:05:42,880
Speaker 2: I'm hearing some things that are are a little disturbing here.

1354
01:05:43,280 --> 01:05:45,960
Speaker 2: This could get uglier, it could. But who side are

1355
01:05:45,960 --> 01:05:50,160
Speaker 2: you on? I mean the owner, you know, the Golden

1356
01:05:50,240 --> 01:05:52,280
Speaker 2: roof who you as the gold makes the rules.

1357
01:05:52,640 --> 01:05:55,560
Speaker 12: Or I'm I'm I'm on mister Jones' side.

1358
01:05:56,240 --> 01:05:59,479
Speaker 2: This is interesting. It's leaning that way tonight. I didn't

1359
01:05:59,480 --> 01:06:01,880
Speaker 2: think that. Go ahead, amplify your point.

1360
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Speaker 12: I think what's happening in pro sports is that these

1361
01:06:08,640 --> 01:06:14,680
Speaker 12: contracts are getting so out of hand that you can't

1362
01:06:14,800 --> 01:06:19,120
Speaker 12: blame an owner regardless of how much money he has

1363
01:06:19,320 --> 01:06:25,640
Speaker 12: or what his team is worth. It's business, and just

1364
01:06:25,760 --> 01:06:31,680
Speaker 12: because everybody is trying to outdo everybody else with their contracts,

1365
01:06:32,320 --> 01:06:36,080
Speaker 12: that doesn't make it right from a business standpoint. And

1366
01:06:36,200 --> 01:06:39,120
Speaker 12: that's why I would side with mister Jones on this.

1367
01:06:40,520 --> 01:06:45,320
Speaker 12: As for the Buffalo bills, from what you said about

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01:06:45,360 --> 01:06:48,840
Speaker 12: the history of hard knocks, Tage just got delt aces

1369
01:06:48,880 --> 01:06:49,320
Speaker 12: and eights.

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Speaker 2: It's a little blackcheck term there. All right, good stuff, Kurt,

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01:06:54,000 --> 01:06:57,640
Speaker 2: appreciate you man. Don't be a stranger. Rick and Louisiana

1372
01:06:57,760 --> 01:06:59,400
Speaker 2: back in the fall. Welcome in. Rick, How are you

1373
01:07:00,160 --> 01:07:00,360
Speaker 2: is so?

1374
01:07:00,440 --> 01:07:00,920
Speaker 10: I'm all right?

1375
01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:01,320
Speaker 8: How are you?

1376
01:07:01,400 --> 01:07:06,040
Speaker 10: And Bernie? Thanks for taking a car. I'm starting with

1377
01:07:06,200 --> 01:07:08,680
Speaker 10: the should. I think Shad is gonna be all right

1378
01:07:08,720 --> 01:07:11,360
Speaker 10: as long as he continued to get some some snaps

1379
01:07:12,040 --> 01:07:16,160
Speaker 10: in pre season. I think he'll be all right. As

1380
01:07:16,240 --> 01:07:20,840
Speaker 10: far as Michael parsons, I'm for him. Jerry gonna pay me.

1381
01:07:20,880 --> 01:07:25,200
Speaker 10: And Jerry has a history of just holding out, holding out,

1382
01:07:25,640 --> 01:07:28,080
Speaker 10: and then he pays him. And I think that's what

1383
01:07:28,200 --> 01:07:30,960
Speaker 10: he's doing here. He's just playing the little game because

1384
01:07:31,000 --> 01:07:34,280
Speaker 10: he's you know, he's the owner of America's team, so

1385
01:07:34,360 --> 01:07:37,160
Speaker 10: he got to give him some publicity. And he knows

1386
01:07:37,240 --> 01:07:39,400
Speaker 10: this is gonna give him a little shine. He's gonna

1387
01:07:39,400 --> 01:07:42,200
Speaker 10: give him a little shine. So he's gonna hold out,

1388
01:07:42,280 --> 01:07:44,320
Speaker 10: hold out, so everybody's talking about him, and then all

1389
01:07:44,320 --> 01:07:46,919
Speaker 10: of a sudden he's gonna step in like a hero,

1390
01:07:47,320 --> 01:07:48,800
Speaker 10: you know, and just pay the man.

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01:07:49,120 --> 01:07:53,880
Speaker 2: So that the pattern. This one feels a little there,

1392
01:07:53,960 --> 01:07:55,360
Speaker 2: but you could be right right.

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01:07:55,560 --> 01:07:58,080
Speaker 10: Yeah, I'm a cowboy saying and that this is this

1394
01:07:58,240 --> 01:08:00,680
Speaker 10: is just a pattern. This is a pattern. And he

1395
01:08:00,840 --> 01:08:03,000
Speaker 10: usually ended up paying him too much because he waits

1396
01:08:03,040 --> 01:08:06,840
Speaker 10: so late, they.

1397
01:08:06,800 --> 01:08:07,480
Speaker 2: End up getting more.

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Speaker 7: Uh.

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01:08:08,320 --> 01:08:11,840
Speaker 2: Finally, the Buffalo bills on Hard Knocks. Uh is there

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01:08:11,880 --> 01:08:14,160
Speaker 2: a Hard Knocks curse? No Hard Knocks team has ever

1401
01:08:14,200 --> 01:08:14,600
Speaker 2: made it to the.

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01:08:15,480 --> 01:08:19,840
Speaker 10: I think Buffalo there they have the curse gives them

1403
01:08:20,360 --> 01:08:25,040
Speaker 10: an alibi when they see Kansas City going to the

1404
01:08:25,160 --> 01:08:25,720
Speaker 10: Super Bowl.

1405
01:08:26,120 --> 01:08:27,040
Speaker 6: Well, it was the curse.

1406
01:08:27,200 --> 01:08:29,479
Speaker 7: It was the curse of hard knocks.

1407
01:08:30,000 --> 01:08:32,240
Speaker 10: It was a hard knocks of the Kansas City Chiefs.

1408
01:08:32,280 --> 01:08:33,040
Speaker 10: That's what it is.

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01:08:33,200 --> 01:08:36,160
Speaker 2: So yeah, I think there's only three teams in the

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01:08:36,360 --> 01:08:39,880
Speaker 2: FC that that it's it's bounce the power anything else?

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01:08:39,960 --> 01:08:45,160
Speaker 10: Rick, Yes, did you go to the fight a few

1412
01:08:45,160 --> 01:08:45,679
Speaker 10: weeks bad?

1413
01:08:46,160 --> 01:08:46,200
Speaker 7: No?

1414
01:08:46,360 --> 01:08:49,120
Speaker 10: I did not in Kansas City? Okay, all right, because

1415
01:08:49,160 --> 01:08:51,360
Speaker 10: I know you were out and we're just taking seats.

1416
01:08:51,400 --> 01:08:55,240
Speaker 2: You build it, all right, buddy, Wells, appreciate your good stuff.

1417
01:08:55,280 --> 01:08:59,760
Speaker 2: Good stuff all the way around. Uh, just so people know. Look,

1418
01:09:00,160 --> 01:09:02,800
Speaker 2: you don't count anybody else's money. And I know there

1419
01:09:02,840 --> 01:09:08,160
Speaker 2: are ranges of position, ranges based on how players are

1420
01:09:08,240 --> 01:09:10,479
Speaker 2: paid in the NFL, And it's kind of like real

1421
01:09:10,600 --> 01:09:14,479
Speaker 2: estate comps. Right, If Michael Parsons, if the club picked

1422
01:09:14,560 --> 01:09:17,720
Speaker 2: up the option of twenty four million this year, if

1423
01:09:17,800 --> 01:09:20,880
Speaker 2: Michael Parsons just played this year and never played football again,

1424
01:09:21,280 --> 01:09:23,840
Speaker 2: he makes forty one million dollars in his career. He

1425
01:09:23,840 --> 01:09:25,679
Speaker 2: would have made forty one million dollars by age twenty

1426
01:09:25,720 --> 01:09:27,479
Speaker 2: twenty seven. So no one needs to take up a

1427
01:09:27,520 --> 01:09:31,839
Speaker 2: collection plate. But everything has a context, and he's performed

1428
01:09:31,840 --> 01:09:34,040
Speaker 2: well fifty two sacks in his career, and he's a

1429
01:09:34,080 --> 01:09:34,479
Speaker 2: good guy.

1430
01:09:35,439 --> 01:09:35,960
Speaker 15: I have you know.

1431
01:09:36,080 --> 01:09:38,759
Speaker 2: Look, not everybody bats a thousand, so we'll see what happens.

1432
01:09:40,120 --> 01:09:42,679
Speaker 2: Eight seven, seven, nine, nine, six sixty three sixty nine.

1433
01:09:43,080 --> 01:09:45,479
Speaker 2: When they've been at hour continues, Mark and Maryland, you

1434
01:09:45,840 --> 01:09:47,920
Speaker 2: will be up next to appreciate your patience.

1435
01:09:48,200 --> 01:09:48,479
Speaker 8: Hang on.

1436
01:09:48,640 --> 01:09:50,960
Speaker 2: Definitely want to hear which you've got to say. In

1437
01:09:51,000 --> 01:09:53,800
Speaker 2: the meantime, I want everybody to know for the best

1438
01:09:53,840 --> 01:09:56,000
Speaker 2: pregame show every week, and be sure to tune into

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01:09:56,000 --> 01:09:59,080
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio's contoun Bridge Down at bet MGM every

1440
01:09:59,120 --> 01:10:01,799
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1441
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Speaker 2: six to nine am Pacific, we will count you down

1442
01:10:04,640 --> 01:10:07,679
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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio and the iHeart Radio app eight seven, seven,

1445
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Speaker 2: nine and nine on Fox eight seven seven, nine, nine,

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Speaker 2: six six three six nine. The Midnight Hour continues when

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Speaker 2: we continue, keep it locked. You're listening to the Bernie

1448
01:10:23,640 --> 01:10:25,840
Speaker 2: Friddle Show on Fox Sports Radio. All right back on

1449
01:10:25,880 --> 01:10:28,800
Speaker 2: the Bernie Fridle Show. The Midnight Hour continues callers have

1450
01:10:28,920 --> 01:10:33,800
Speaker 2: been just fantastic again tonight. A few surprises here and there,

1451
01:10:33,800 --> 01:10:36,639
Speaker 2: and let's go out to Maryland. We're joined by Mark Mark.

1452
01:10:36,680 --> 01:10:40,320
Speaker 2: Thanks for having on. You're up next. Hello Mark, Hey Bernie,

1453
01:10:40,400 --> 01:10:42,360
Speaker 2: how are you good, sir? Thank you?

1454
01:10:43,680 --> 01:10:44,479
Speaker 17: Thank you Bernie.

1455
01:10:45,000 --> 01:10:46,800
Speaker 10: Listen, Bernie, I love calling you.

1456
01:10:47,040 --> 01:10:49,519
Speaker 17: You my highlight of the week because you do it

1457
01:10:49,600 --> 01:10:53,000
Speaker 17: the right way. These other guys, I don't know what

1458
01:10:53,080 --> 01:10:56,719
Speaker 17: they're doing, but it's not talk sports radio.

1459
01:10:57,080 --> 01:11:00,799
Speaker 8: Okay, I'm gonna talk about Dor Sanders.

1460
01:11:01,080 --> 01:11:07,400
Speaker 17: Okay, I think he's paying Deon is such a polarizer.

1461
01:11:07,439 --> 01:11:10,479
Speaker 17: I think he's paying for his father's sin, so to speak. Okay,

1462
01:11:10,880 --> 01:11:13,639
Speaker 17: Eon and Bo Jackson, to me, are the best athletes

1463
01:11:13,680 --> 01:11:17,760
Speaker 17: have ever played. Okay, professionals in both sports. That just

1464
01:11:17,840 --> 01:11:22,560
Speaker 17: doesn't get done. Okay, the kid took on Dion's I

1465
01:11:22,640 --> 01:11:25,160
Speaker 17: think a lot of people are holding it against him. Okay,

1466
01:11:25,320 --> 01:11:29,960
Speaker 17: I'm gonna say this. I think Schador can play in

1467
01:11:30,040 --> 01:11:32,920
Speaker 17: this league. I think he is a starter. I think

1468
01:11:33,000 --> 01:11:38,200
Speaker 17: he showed it yesterday. I think he showed it his potential.

1469
01:11:38,280 --> 01:11:40,760
Speaker 17: I think he just needs more reps. The kid has

1470
01:11:40,920 --> 01:11:41,240
Speaker 17: got it.

1471
01:11:41,520 --> 01:11:46,599
Speaker 2: Okay, Listen, that Tom Brady comparison came up. I covered

1472
01:11:46,680 --> 01:11:50,040
Speaker 2: Tom Brady at Michigan. I was there. He won games,

1473
01:11:50,160 --> 01:11:51,840
Speaker 2: he was twenty and five, was a start, he was

1474
01:11:51,880 --> 01:11:55,800
Speaker 2: a nerd. But I'm telling you there are similarities in

1475
01:11:55,880 --> 01:11:57,920
Speaker 2: the way those two guys play the game from the

1476
01:11:58,000 --> 01:12:01,439
Speaker 2: neck up. So you may well be right. We gotta

1477
01:12:01,520 --> 01:12:04,599
Speaker 2: let this play out. Mark, Do you have a side

1478
01:12:04,680 --> 01:12:06,200
Speaker 2: between Jerry and Micah?

1479
01:12:07,880 --> 01:12:08,880
Speaker 17: Definitely Micah.

1480
01:12:09,520 --> 01:12:10,439
Speaker 5: Let me tell you something.

1481
01:12:10,520 --> 01:12:13,160
Speaker 17: I'm an old school guy. I'm sixty years old.

1482
01:12:13,280 --> 01:12:16,200
Speaker 8: I've seen it all. I'm a Redskins nat and I

1483
01:12:16,439 --> 01:12:20,560
Speaker 8: said Redskins, not Commanders. Okay, I don't have anything. I

1484
01:12:20,640 --> 01:12:21,719
Speaker 8: know it's a racial slur.

1485
01:12:21,960 --> 01:12:25,120
Speaker 17: Blah blah blah blah blah. I think it was political, Okay.

1486
01:12:25,240 --> 01:12:29,280
Speaker 17: I hate the Commanders. Most of the DMV hates it, Okay,

1487
01:12:29,840 --> 01:12:31,720
Speaker 17: but what it is is what it is.

1488
01:12:31,880 --> 01:12:33,600
Speaker 8: Okay. Now I'm gonna say this.

1489
01:12:34,320 --> 01:12:38,040
Speaker 17: I'm a Cowboys hater. I don't care if we don't

1490
01:12:38,080 --> 01:12:41,679
Speaker 17: win no games as long as we beat them. Okay,

1491
01:12:42,080 --> 01:12:44,519
Speaker 17: So I go back like that. Okay, I'm true.

1492
01:12:45,040 --> 01:12:48,720
Speaker 8: Now, Micah is the best defensive guy I've seen this.

1493
01:12:48,880 --> 01:12:53,080
Speaker 8: Lars Taylor is a large Taylor ability. Everybody knows it.

1494
01:12:53,400 --> 01:12:56,880
Speaker 8: Jerry Jones is a jerk. He's always been. He's bigger,

1495
01:12:57,240 --> 01:12:59,639
Speaker 8: you know, I like. I mean, Jerry Jones is oil

1496
01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:02,080
Speaker 8: raikoon the way he does business.

1497
01:13:02,520 --> 01:13:03,439
Speaker 17: This last thing.

1498
01:13:03,400 --> 01:13:08,519
Speaker 8: Coming out about him handshaking and all that bad Come on,

1499
01:13:08,680 --> 01:13:11,040
Speaker 8: how are you going to That's not where you do business.

1500
01:13:11,439 --> 01:13:14,280
Speaker 8: He tried to snooker, I mean, and then he's gonna hold, oh,

1501
01:13:14,360 --> 01:13:16,200
Speaker 8: we had a handshake deal. How do you have any

1502
01:13:16,280 --> 01:13:17,400
Speaker 8: deal without the agent.

1503
01:13:18,280 --> 01:13:22,599
Speaker 17: That's that's egregious. That's that's some good old boy. Yes,

1504
01:13:23,240 --> 01:13:29,040
Speaker 17: and I'm I don't like it. I'm very uh animated

1505
01:13:29,120 --> 01:13:32,360
Speaker 17: about it. And I like Jerry, but but but he

1506
01:13:32,479 --> 01:13:34,519
Speaker 17: tried to pull the wool over the boy's eyes. And

1507
01:13:34,600 --> 01:13:36,760
Speaker 17: then all of a sudden he's gonna say, oh, we

1508
01:13:36,920 --> 01:13:38,679
Speaker 17: had handshake deals. What are you talking about?

1509
01:13:38,720 --> 01:13:41,439
Speaker 8: This is business? Okay, what are you talking about?

1510
01:13:41,760 --> 01:13:41,920
Speaker 10: You know?

1511
01:13:42,160 --> 01:13:48,519
Speaker 7: So I don't agree with that, you know, fairness, like

1512
01:13:48,600 --> 01:13:50,400
Speaker 7: for the money, he deserves all of it.

1513
01:13:50,800 --> 01:13:54,120
Speaker 8: But but you know, as a riskin fan slash commanders,

1514
01:13:54,960 --> 01:13:58,240
Speaker 8: I hope they f and l because I don't want

1515
01:13:58,280 --> 01:14:01,120
Speaker 8: to see him, Okay, I'm Jayton Daniels said, I don't

1516
01:14:01,120 --> 01:14:03,360
Speaker 8: want to have to botch his ass. Okay, I'm sorry

1517
01:14:03,400 --> 01:14:03,880
Speaker 8: for the fault.

1518
01:14:04,240 --> 01:14:07,240
Speaker 2: All good, It's all good. Hey, listen, I appreciate the

1519
01:14:07,320 --> 01:14:10,360
Speaker 2: animation finally because I got one more car for you

1520
01:14:10,520 --> 01:14:13,599
Speaker 2: real quickly. The Buffalo Bills on Hard Knocks. You believe

1521
01:14:13,640 --> 01:14:16,120
Speaker 2: that there's a curse and Buffalo, No.

1522
01:14:16,520 --> 01:14:18,679
Speaker 17: I don't believe there's a curse. First of all, Hard

1523
01:14:18,760 --> 01:14:24,120
Speaker 17: Knocks is reality TV. I hate Okay, I don't believe it.

1524
01:14:24,280 --> 01:14:26,519
Speaker 17: It's made for TV b ads.

1525
01:14:26,840 --> 01:14:27,160
Speaker 10: Okay.

1526
01:14:27,680 --> 01:14:30,680
Speaker 17: I like the Bills. The only problem the Bills. They

1527
01:14:30,800 --> 01:14:34,320
Speaker 17: can't get past Patrick Mahomes, who's the best young quarterback

1528
01:14:34,640 --> 01:14:39,040
Speaker 17: I've ever seen. Okay, and that's just not my opinion,

1529
01:14:39,200 --> 01:14:39,880
Speaker 17: that's facts.

1530
01:14:40,240 --> 01:14:40,559
Speaker 10: Okay.

1531
01:14:40,920 --> 01:14:44,519
Speaker 17: I love Josh Allen. But but but Patrick Mahomes is

1532
01:14:44,560 --> 01:14:47,439
Speaker 17: an anomaly that we're not going to ever see. You

1533
01:14:47,560 --> 01:14:50,640
Speaker 17: better appreciate him, and all the chiefs got to do it.

1534
01:14:50,720 --> 01:14:53,519
Speaker 17: Surround him with enough talent because that boy's gonna always

1535
01:14:53,600 --> 01:14:54,000
Speaker 17: be there.

1536
01:14:54,040 --> 01:14:54,320
Speaker 5: Okay.

1537
01:14:54,720 --> 01:14:57,519
Speaker 17: So I'm not a big Hard Knocks fan.

1538
01:14:57,600 --> 01:15:01,760
Speaker 2: Okay, Hey, John, great stuff man, three strong opinions. Don't

1539
01:15:01,800 --> 01:15:04,960
Speaker 2: be a stranger. John and Toledo will wrap things up

1540
01:15:05,000 --> 01:15:07,920
Speaker 2: tonight on the Midnight Hour. Welcome in, John, Is this

1541
01:15:08,000 --> 01:15:09,679
Speaker 2: your first time calling? The Bernie Fredle Show.

1542
01:15:10,439 --> 01:15:13,160
Speaker 5: It's my first time, Bernie. I'm good to show brother,

1543
01:15:13,200 --> 01:15:16,120
Speaker 5: and I had something to contribute. I'm almost seventy, and

1544
01:15:16,160 --> 01:15:19,519
Speaker 5: I remember those sixty seven Detroit teams at Kobo Hall.

1545
01:15:19,720 --> 01:15:21,240
Speaker 5: You remember those places up there?

1546
01:15:22,760 --> 01:15:27,080
Speaker 2: Man, absolutely, we could probably name the sixty seven Tigers lineup.

1547
01:15:27,080 --> 01:15:28,680
Speaker 2: They won one hundred and three games, didn't make the

1548
01:15:28,720 --> 01:15:29,519
Speaker 2: playoffs a year.

1549
01:15:29,560 --> 01:15:35,599
Speaker 5: Oh, Walwoch, Norm Cash, Hell, Caitlining, of course McClean who

1550
01:15:35,760 --> 01:15:38,720
Speaker 5: they had, Yeah, bro Freehand. I mean a lot of

1551
01:15:38,760 --> 01:15:41,640
Speaker 5: great teams. But do you know what, I was a

1552
01:15:41,720 --> 01:15:45,559
Speaker 5: street coach at a university for years and we had

1553
01:15:45,640 --> 01:15:48,800
Speaker 5: thirteen varsity sports, and I went on personal training for

1554
01:15:48,880 --> 01:15:50,479
Speaker 5: a long long time I've been around.

1555
01:15:50,880 --> 01:15:52,920
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what a fellow, Because we're up against

1556
01:15:52,920 --> 01:15:56,679
Speaker 2: the clock if I want to get to these street topics,

1557
01:15:56,720 --> 01:15:58,719
Speaker 2: because I do have one more call of my bad

1558
01:15:59,720 --> 01:16:02,120
Speaker 2: and if we could please get to the three topics,

1559
01:16:02,160 --> 01:16:03,519
Speaker 2: and then if we can get you in earlier, maybe

1560
01:16:03,560 --> 01:16:05,600
Speaker 2: next week you have more airtime. But I'd like you

1561
01:16:05,680 --> 01:16:07,639
Speaker 2: to know your thoughts on she Door Sanders and Jerry

1562
01:16:07,720 --> 01:16:08,360
Speaker 2: versus Micah.

1563
01:16:09,200 --> 01:16:11,120
Speaker 5: I see I said that because I've seen a lot

1564
01:16:11,120 --> 01:16:13,439
Speaker 5: of cocky athletes come in that where we're all at.

1565
01:16:13,640 --> 01:16:16,800
Speaker 5: I mean, you remember Elway he was didn't want to

1566
01:16:16,800 --> 01:16:18,920
Speaker 5: go to certain teams, neither the manny No.

1567
01:16:19,040 --> 01:16:21,799
Speaker 2: I certainly get all that. But based on his start Thursday,

1568
01:16:21,800 --> 01:16:24,000
Speaker 2: because I haven't been made up my mind yet, I'm

1569
01:16:24,080 --> 01:16:27,439
Speaker 2: open minded, do you think he blossoms into a starter

1570
01:16:27,600 --> 01:16:29,120
Speaker 2: or is this a one shot deal? What's what's going

1571
01:16:29,200 --> 01:16:29,519
Speaker 2: to happen?

1572
01:16:30,240 --> 01:16:30,840
Speaker 10: He sees the.

1573
01:16:30,880 --> 01:16:32,880
Speaker 5: Field well, from lot to see, I think he's going

1574
01:16:32,960 --> 01:16:33,519
Speaker 5: to be a starter.

1575
01:16:34,120 --> 01:16:36,320
Speaker 2: I think I don't mean to be sure with you,

1576
01:16:36,400 --> 01:16:38,800
Speaker 2: but we got a clock to manage her, and I uh,

1577
01:16:39,360 --> 01:16:40,840
Speaker 2: Jerry versus Micah.

1578
01:16:42,479 --> 01:16:44,840
Speaker 5: Jerry, because Mike is on the downhill side and he

1579
01:16:45,040 --> 01:16:47,560
Speaker 5: was never LT and he's not even coleel Mack was

1580
01:16:47,600 --> 01:16:51,080
Speaker 5: a great player. And as far as the Buffalo curse,

1581
01:16:51,680 --> 01:16:53,720
Speaker 5: let's just take it back to Marv lady, let's take

1582
01:16:53,760 --> 01:16:55,680
Speaker 5: it back to the Buffwell Braves of those great Mac

1583
01:16:55,800 --> 01:16:59,160
Speaker 5: and the McDaniel and de Goorio teams their curse period.

1584
01:16:59,560 --> 01:17:01,639
Speaker 2: So all I gotta say, hey, man hold on, don't

1585
01:17:01,640 --> 01:17:03,559
Speaker 2: don't don't hang out just yet. You had some great

1586
01:17:03,640 --> 01:17:07,240
Speaker 2: pulls there. That's that's that's a big time call here, John.

1587
01:17:07,320 --> 01:17:09,599
Speaker 2: That that you you you are a true sports fan,

1588
01:17:09,800 --> 01:17:12,640
Speaker 2: uh with analogy history. Thanks for checking in and uh

1589
01:17:13,040 --> 01:17:14,680
Speaker 2: get on again. We'll get you more of your time

1590
01:17:14,720 --> 01:17:18,400
Speaker 2: next time. Okay. Uh, let's wrap it up with John

1591
01:17:18,520 --> 01:17:22,360
Speaker 2: from Texas. John, sorry about that. I almost blew it.

1592
01:17:22,760 --> 01:17:23,439
Speaker 2: You got the floor.

1593
01:17:24,439 --> 01:17:27,960
Speaker 9: Oh well, thank you, sir. I'll uh first time caller,

1594
01:17:28,000 --> 01:17:30,080
Speaker 9: a longtime listener, I'll be.

1595
01:17:30,479 --> 01:17:32,040
Speaker 2: I love these first timers. I love it.

1596
01:17:33,120 --> 01:17:33,240
Speaker 9: Uh.

1597
01:17:33,479 --> 01:17:35,000
Speaker 8: Well, Uh, you do it.

1598
01:17:35,400 --> 01:17:37,400
Speaker 9: The man was right, you do it the right way.

1599
01:17:37,640 --> 01:17:39,240
Speaker 9: I really enjoy your programming.

1600
01:17:39,760 --> 01:17:40,160
Speaker 10: Uh, thank you.

1601
01:17:40,640 --> 01:17:41,880
Speaker 9: I know you're on the clock.

1602
01:17:42,120 --> 01:17:42,240
Speaker 15: Uh.

1603
01:17:43,000 --> 01:17:49,000
Speaker 9: Garry Jones is committing general manager male practice all over

1604
01:17:49,160 --> 01:17:49,599
Speaker 9: the place.

1605
01:17:50,600 --> 01:17:50,720
Speaker 7: Uh.

1606
01:17:51,960 --> 01:17:57,560
Speaker 9: Hey, this man, I think Jerry actually got got his

1607
01:17:57,680 --> 01:18:00,479
Speaker 9: feeling heard or whatever. I think this thing it's real.

1608
01:18:00,840 --> 01:18:04,000
Speaker 9: I don't believe it's Uh it's cut and dried anymore.

1609
01:18:04,360 --> 01:18:06,160
Speaker 2: No, I'm got to talk about that a little later.

1610
01:18:06,240 --> 01:18:08,280
Speaker 2: I think this one is there's a lot of bruce

1611
01:18:08,320 --> 01:18:13,280
Speaker 2: feelings here between all the parties, especially the agent David Malagita,

1612
01:18:13,400 --> 01:18:15,759
Speaker 2: who's a big time powerful agent. He's pissed.

1613
01:18:16,240 --> 01:18:19,200
Speaker 9: So this is your year, and the biggest thing on

1614
01:18:19,400 --> 01:18:20,800
Speaker 9: Garrick Jones is the ego.

1615
01:18:21,680 --> 01:18:24,400
Speaker 2: So all right, moving on, John.

1616
01:18:24,720 --> 01:18:24,880
Speaker 4: Uh.

1617
01:18:26,080 --> 01:18:28,320
Speaker 2: Uh, we didn't talk about your Sanders.

1618
01:18:28,760 --> 01:18:32,000
Speaker 9: You believe in them or I think he will eventually

1619
01:18:32,720 --> 01:18:36,000
Speaker 9: become a starter. I don't know if it'll be this year.

1620
01:18:36,600 --> 01:18:39,160
Speaker 9: I think if he's on the team at all, it'll

1621
01:18:39,200 --> 01:18:44,800
Speaker 9: be what turn streams. So I see he's there, I

1622
01:18:44,920 --> 01:18:46,040
Speaker 9: see something to work with.

1623
01:18:46,640 --> 01:18:47,599
Speaker 8: I will be make sick.

1624
01:18:48,400 --> 01:18:50,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, it'd be. That'd be. I think he's gonna make

1625
01:18:50,800 --> 01:18:53,759
Speaker 2: the team, even if he finds himself on a practice,

1626
01:18:53,760 --> 01:18:56,680
Speaker 2: but he's gonna. I I just feel he's gonna make

1627
01:18:56,680 --> 01:19:00,799
Speaker 2: the team. Uh, but we'll see. Uh finally Uh hard knocks.

1628
01:19:01,479 --> 01:19:03,160
Speaker 2: Do you believe there's a legitimate.

1629
01:19:04,479 --> 01:19:06,840
Speaker 9: I don't know if it's a curse, But when you

1630
01:19:07,200 --> 01:19:10,920
Speaker 9: put a camera in front of somebody, especially a preferable

1631
01:19:11,000 --> 01:19:15,519
Speaker 9: young man trying to learn football for the first time,

1632
01:19:16,080 --> 01:19:21,840
Speaker 9: I think it can set you back. So I don't know,

1633
01:19:22,960 --> 01:19:26,200
Speaker 9: but it all depends on your coach, if you know,

1634
01:19:26,360 --> 01:19:30,559
Speaker 9: if he's able to get you refocused. But I can

1635
01:19:30,640 --> 01:19:32,240
Speaker 9: see where that can throw you off track.

1636
01:19:33,439 --> 01:19:35,920
Speaker 2: All right, Pal, You're always welcome to call the show.

1637
01:19:35,960 --> 01:19:40,120
Speaker 2: Appreciate you hanging on the patients, Appreciate everybody's calls. I

1638
01:19:40,240 --> 01:19:42,280
Speaker 2: hate to cut people short. We're just trying to manage

1639
01:19:42,280 --> 01:19:47,439
Speaker 2: a clock here and appreciate everybody's thoughts. And this last

1640
01:19:47,479 --> 01:19:52,400
Speaker 2: gentleman talked about Jerry Jones malpractice. This one's a little

1641
01:19:52,439 --> 01:19:55,280
Speaker 2: weird because we're going to talk about this later. He's

1642
01:19:55,320 --> 01:19:59,040
Speaker 2: trying to engage in negotiations directly. Player hires agents for

1643
01:19:59,120 --> 01:20:02,840
Speaker 2: a reason. Okay, it's a procedure established by the NFLPA.

1644
01:20:03,680 --> 01:20:06,680
Speaker 2: These are the collective interests of all and you've got

1645
01:20:06,760 --> 01:20:09,400
Speaker 2: to play by the rules. So this really went sideways.

1646
01:20:09,520 --> 01:20:09,800
Speaker 10: Okay.

1647
01:20:10,479 --> 01:20:13,000
Speaker 2: David Malagata is one of the most powerful and respected

1648
01:20:13,040 --> 01:20:15,679
Speaker 2: agents in the game, but maybe he should have seen

1649
01:20:15,720 --> 01:20:18,840
Speaker 2: his coming. All right, keep it locked up. Next, Mark

1650
01:20:18,920 --> 01:20:22,000
Speaker 2: Madena joined us a little Medina magic. Bernie Fraddles Show,

1651
01:20:22,080 --> 01:20:23,200
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio.

1652
01:20:24,600 --> 01:20:26,479
Speaker 1: Don't listening to Fox Sports Radio.

1653
01:20:27,560 --> 01:20:29,760
Speaker 2: It's right you hear the man Bernie Fraddles Show keeps

1654
01:20:29,880 --> 01:20:32,479
Speaker 2: rolling right along. My name is Bernie Froanda. We're comedy

1655
01:20:32,560 --> 01:20:36,240
Speaker 2: line from the Fox Sports Radio compound here in Las Vegas.

1656
01:20:36,240 --> 01:20:39,479
Speaker 2: Will take up to three am Pacific, six am Eastern,

1657
01:20:40,479 --> 01:20:43,120
Speaker 2: and let's welcome in a gentleman. I'm familiar face now

1658
01:20:43,240 --> 01:20:46,679
Speaker 2: in our new time slot during the football season. Even

1659
01:20:46,720 --> 01:20:49,320
Speaker 2: though the NBA season is only seventy two days away.

1660
01:20:49,920 --> 01:20:52,720
Speaker 2: People are gaga about football, but that doesn't mean there

1661
01:20:52,840 --> 01:20:55,320
Speaker 2: still is an NBA news. We want to keep our

1662
01:20:55,360 --> 01:20:59,360
Speaker 2: finger on the pulse of three simple words. It's that time,

1663
01:21:00,400 --> 01:21:03,320
Speaker 2: Mark Medina, Medina Magic come to you every Saturday night

1664
01:21:03,400 --> 01:21:08,519
Speaker 2: Sunday morning on the Bernie Frattle Show here in Las Vegas. Mark,

1665
01:21:08,560 --> 01:21:12,040
Speaker 2: appreciate you making the adjustment and we'll continue on with

1666
01:21:13,200 --> 01:21:14,479
Speaker 2: more award winning content.

1667
01:21:15,840 --> 01:21:18,800
Speaker 14: Bernie always happy to talk NBA no matter what time

1668
01:21:18,880 --> 01:21:19,240
Speaker 14: an hour.

1669
01:21:20,280 --> 01:21:25,040
Speaker 2: Well, I appreciate you so. Interestingly enough, the seasons do

1670
01:21:25,200 --> 01:21:29,280
Speaker 2: meld together, and we're basically seventy two days away from

1671
01:21:29,360 --> 01:21:33,080
Speaker 2: Houston opening up at OKAC on a Friday night and

1672
01:21:33,240 --> 01:21:37,160
Speaker 2: Golden State at Los Angeles. I find that second matchup

1673
01:21:37,240 --> 01:21:41,040
Speaker 2: a little interesting for a Friday night at NBC. What

1674
01:21:41,160 --> 01:21:43,599
Speaker 2: are your thoughts on that doubleheader to start the NBA.

1675
01:21:44,600 --> 01:21:47,320
Speaker 14: Well, you can't ever go wrong with those kind of matchups.

1676
01:21:47,400 --> 01:21:50,639
Speaker 14: With opening night, I thought it was going to be another,

1677
01:21:51,320 --> 01:21:54,080
Speaker 14: you know, let's make a revenge game with the Dallas

1678
01:21:54,160 --> 01:21:57,040
Speaker 14: Mavericks once again, because it's the gift that keeps on giving.

1679
01:21:57,200 --> 01:21:59,840
Speaker 14: But I guess they have to, you know, choose all

1680
01:21:59,840 --> 01:22:02,800
Speaker 14: the Nights accordingly, because they can't do that every single

1681
01:22:02,920 --> 01:22:05,599
Speaker 14: Marquee game. I thought they were actually the Lakers. They're

1682
01:22:05,640 --> 01:22:08,080
Speaker 14: actually going to have that for Christmas Day as well.

1683
01:22:08,200 --> 01:22:11,920
Speaker 14: But Dallas is playing Golden State, Juice is playing the Lakers.

1684
01:22:12,000 --> 01:22:12,479
Speaker 8: I get it.

1685
01:22:13,000 --> 01:22:16,840
Speaker 14: There's still a lot of Juice with the potential. Maybe

1686
01:22:16,920 --> 01:22:19,719
Speaker 14: not last matchup, but it's the second to last matchup

1687
01:22:19,760 --> 01:22:24,040
Speaker 14: with Kevin Durant and Lebron James. But again Luca versus

1688
01:22:24,200 --> 01:22:27,439
Speaker 14: the Mavericks, Cooper Flag versus the Lakers. I mean, that's

1689
01:22:27,520 --> 01:22:30,280
Speaker 14: going to be a storyline for multiple years to come.

1690
01:22:31,240 --> 01:22:31,479
Speaker 8: It is.

1691
01:22:31,760 --> 01:22:36,559
Speaker 2: The reason I invoked that comment is because there are

1692
01:22:36,600 --> 01:22:39,880
Speaker 2: two Western Division matchups, and I understand there's already a

1693
01:22:39,920 --> 01:22:42,280
Speaker 2: little bit of backlash because the quintuple ahead of the

1694
01:22:42,360 --> 01:22:46,519
Speaker 2: five games on ABC Christmas Day four, the five are

1695
01:22:46,920 --> 01:22:50,160
Speaker 2: Western Conference games. The only Eastern Conference game is the

1696
01:22:50,400 --> 01:22:53,600
Speaker 2: Cavs at the Knicks. Your thoughts on that and is

1697
01:22:53,640 --> 01:22:56,240
Speaker 2: that a contrivance by the NBA? What are they trying

1698
01:22:56,240 --> 01:22:59,040
Speaker 2: to do here? All Right, we may have lost mister Medina.

1699
01:22:59,560 --> 01:23:02,800
Speaker 2: Perhaps we can effort and get him back, but it's

1700
01:23:02,800 --> 01:23:07,000
Speaker 2: a situation, uh where the five games on ABC and

1701
01:23:07,120 --> 01:23:10,160
Speaker 2: Christmas Day would be Cleveland at New York, uh, San

1702
01:23:10,240 --> 01:23:16,080
Speaker 2: Antonio at Oklahoma City and the Rockets at the Lakers. Okay,

1703
01:23:16,160 --> 01:23:19,560
Speaker 2: that'll be interesting. I can hear you back. No, no,

1704
01:23:19,760 --> 01:23:21,479
Speaker 2: no problem, buddy, We're all we're all good.

1705
01:23:21,560 --> 01:23:23,559
Speaker 9: I think the NBA didn't take Hi.

1706
01:23:25,040 --> 01:23:26,240
Speaker 2: You didn't go over you, you didn't go over your

1707
01:23:26,320 --> 01:23:28,519
Speaker 2: cell minutes to package, did your anything like that, because

1708
01:23:29,240 --> 01:23:31,760
Speaker 2: I wanted to chip in if you need you know that.

1709
01:23:33,560 --> 01:23:35,960
Speaker 14: I think the NBA didn't take Highway too threw up

1710
01:23:36,000 --> 01:23:37,439
Speaker 14: in the schedule, so they cut us off.

1711
01:23:37,800 --> 01:23:40,840
Speaker 2: Well, I was just responding to the backlash I heard

1712
01:23:40,880 --> 01:23:43,960
Speaker 2: the maybe I'm wrong, maybe, but for the five games

1713
01:23:44,000 --> 01:23:48,519
Speaker 2: on Christmas Day are Western Conference games and the Spurs

1714
01:23:48,560 --> 01:23:52,160
Speaker 2: Thunder to me is a little questionable, right Minnesota, Denver

1715
01:23:52,360 --> 01:23:54,240
Speaker 2: is good, MAVs Warriors good. You got a lot of

1716
01:23:54,280 --> 01:23:56,880
Speaker 2: star power there. Maybe it's Wemby, I guess people want

1717
01:23:56,920 --> 01:23:58,280
Speaker 2: to see or the year and.

1718
01:23:58,320 --> 01:24:01,880
Speaker 14: Five under defended champs Bernie Well.

1719
01:24:01,720 --> 01:24:03,760
Speaker 2: The thunder art, but their opponent isn't there. I don't

1720
01:24:03,760 --> 01:24:05,440
Speaker 2: know if their opponent's even a playoff.

1721
01:24:05,120 --> 01:24:07,040
Speaker 9: Team, I mean vicor Wiben Yama.

1722
01:24:07,120 --> 01:24:09,800
Speaker 14: They got the Aaron Fox. I mean there's Mark chi things.

1723
01:24:09,960 --> 01:24:14,080
Speaker 14: I get your broader point. What's the Eastern Conference representation here?

1724
01:24:14,160 --> 01:24:18,200
Speaker 14: I'll counter with this, Bernie, The Eastern Conference is not

1725
01:24:18,360 --> 01:24:22,680
Speaker 14: as strong as the West next season because Boston. Boston's

1726
01:24:22,720 --> 01:24:25,120
Speaker 14: a gap year because Jayson Tatum's out for the season.

1727
01:24:25,520 --> 01:24:30,720
Speaker 14: Same thing with the Indiana Pacers, Tyres Halburn. So I

1728
01:24:30,840 --> 01:24:33,280
Speaker 14: thought maybe they put the Milwaukee Bucks on the schedule

1729
01:24:33,320 --> 01:24:36,719
Speaker 14: because you still have Jannathan to Deakumpo. But it's almost

1730
01:24:36,800 --> 01:24:40,200
Speaker 14: like the All Star selections when people say you get smeled, Okay,

1731
01:24:40,320 --> 01:24:44,160
Speaker 14: the next exercises, which game do you replace? And you know,

1732
01:24:44,280 --> 01:24:47,400
Speaker 14: look all these Western Conference teams San Antonio, Oklahoma City

1733
01:24:47,520 --> 01:24:52,200
Speaker 14: is Houston, the Lakers, Dallas, Golden State, Minnesota, Denver. They're

1734
01:24:52,200 --> 01:24:54,920
Speaker 14: all teams that are a good and be have star players.

1735
01:24:55,000 --> 01:24:57,880
Speaker 14: And see they move the needles. So I do get it,

1736
01:24:58,280 --> 01:24:59,840
Speaker 14: and I think I'm more of a sign that the

1737
01:25:00,120 --> 01:25:02,080
Speaker 14: business going to be as strong as that season.

1738
01:25:02,840 --> 01:25:06,640
Speaker 2: Yeah again, I'm merely parroting what I had heard. I

1739
01:25:06,680 --> 01:25:09,680
Speaker 2: couldn't care less who they put they can put on,

1740
01:25:09,840 --> 01:25:12,920
Speaker 2: you know, red red clots and the Washington Generals for

1741
01:25:13,040 --> 01:25:15,960
Speaker 2: all I care about. But but, but, and all in

1742
01:25:16,040 --> 01:25:18,840
Speaker 2: all seriousness, I heard there had been some some backlash

1743
01:25:19,640 --> 01:25:22,360
Speaker 2: because what seventy five percent of the population is east

1744
01:25:22,360 --> 01:25:25,040
Speaker 2: of the Mississippi, right, So I'm just just a little

1745
01:25:25,120 --> 01:25:26,680
Speaker 2: love there. I don't I don't care.

1746
01:25:26,920 --> 01:25:30,519
Speaker 14: Uh yeah, I think to defend you here if I'm Indiana,

1747
01:25:30,560 --> 01:25:32,680
Speaker 14: I look at look, we just made the finals and

1748
01:25:32,760 --> 01:25:36,120
Speaker 14: you're yeah on Christmas night, But I think, yes, great

1749
01:25:36,160 --> 01:25:38,320
Speaker 14: pointyn is not going to be there.

1750
01:25:40,640 --> 01:25:43,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's another good point. So I guess if you

1751
01:25:43,240 --> 01:25:44,800
Speaker 2: look at the lineup you got, you got a big

1752
01:25:45,000 --> 01:25:47,800
Speaker 2: you got big names across the board. You mentioned the

1753
01:25:48,000 --> 01:25:52,479
Speaker 2: Boston Celtics, and you know they're gonna be I guess

1754
01:25:52,520 --> 01:25:54,000
Speaker 2: it's gonna be a bit of a hall past season.

1755
01:25:54,080 --> 01:25:56,080
Speaker 2: I don't see any way other way around it. But

1756
01:25:56,240 --> 01:25:58,599
Speaker 2: they took time to extend their coach, Joe Miszulu, who

1757
01:25:58,640 --> 01:26:02,600
Speaker 2: I thought was very uh you know, worthy of that

1758
01:26:02,760 --> 01:26:04,719
Speaker 2: type of an increase your thoughts.

1759
01:26:05,600 --> 01:26:07,080
Speaker 9: Yeah, I don't think it's surprised at all.

1760
01:26:07,120 --> 01:26:10,320
Speaker 14: I mean, he already wanted NBA championship. He took over

1761
01:26:10,960 --> 01:26:13,160
Speaker 14: under very unique circumstances of the lead.

1762
01:26:13,120 --> 01:26:15,920
Speaker 6: Head coach because Emodoka, you know, was.

1763
01:26:16,680 --> 01:26:20,400
Speaker 14: Let go because of some internal issues here, and so

1764
01:26:21,360 --> 01:26:24,519
Speaker 14: what he showed was that he was very capable of

1765
01:26:24,720 --> 01:26:27,720
Speaker 14: guiding the ship and you know, making it be as

1766
01:26:27,720 --> 01:26:31,240
Speaker 14: seamless as possible. Now, yeah, the Celics did underachieved this

1767
01:26:31,360 --> 01:26:33,840
Speaker 14: season there as you mentioned, they're going to have a

1768
01:26:33,880 --> 01:26:36,120
Speaker 14: Hall Pass season, but I think it has more to

1769
01:26:36,200 --> 01:26:38,920
Speaker 14: do with the fact that Jason Tatum again is going

1770
01:26:39,000 --> 01:26:41,000
Speaker 14: to be out of the year with the Achilles, and

1771
01:26:41,080 --> 01:26:44,760
Speaker 14: that's partly why the Celtics made all these cost cutting moves.

1772
01:26:44,760 --> 01:26:47,000
Speaker 14: They already were going to have to shave costs because

1773
01:26:47,000 --> 01:26:50,560
Speaker 14: of Second Apron World. But I think that they're relatively

1774
01:26:50,680 --> 01:26:55,160
Speaker 14: more comfortable with trading Drew Holliday and Chris Osporzingis because

1775
01:26:55,240 --> 01:26:57,960
Speaker 14: of the Tatum injury. I mean, outside of Jalen Brown,

1776
01:26:58,640 --> 01:27:00,920
Speaker 14: you're not having a lot of games changers all the team.

1777
01:27:01,040 --> 01:27:05,040
Speaker 14: So it's about trying to stay the course, playing the

1778
01:27:05,240 --> 01:27:08,960
Speaker 14: continuity card, improved from within, and then when Jason Tatum's

1779
01:27:09,040 --> 01:27:11,639
Speaker 14: back the following season, they can try to make another

1780
01:27:11,720 --> 01:27:12,120
Speaker 14: run out of it.

1781
01:27:13,080 --> 01:27:15,360
Speaker 2: Thought Mark Medina Medina Magic our new time here in

1782
01:27:15,400 --> 01:27:20,479
Speaker 2: the Rooney Frattle Show. Throughout football season, the NBA, Mark,

1783
01:27:21,160 --> 01:27:24,960
Speaker 2: it's been theorized, is entering an interesting time period and

1784
01:27:25,040 --> 01:27:29,720
Speaker 2: I'll set this up because they've enjoyed their dynasties going

1785
01:27:29,800 --> 01:27:32,800
Speaker 2: back sixty years with Bill Russell's and the Celtics. Then

1786
01:27:32,840 --> 01:27:35,840
Speaker 2: you had bird Magic in the eighties, One or the

1787
01:27:35,920 --> 01:27:38,639
Speaker 2: other was in the finals every year in the eighties.

1788
01:27:39,040 --> 01:27:43,000
Speaker 2: Then after that the Bulls, Lakers, Spurs, they had dynastic runs.

1789
01:27:43,040 --> 01:27:45,000
Speaker 2: And then in the last even ten years you had

1790
01:27:45,200 --> 01:27:48,120
Speaker 2: Steph Curry and Lebron with the Heat in Cleveland. So

1791
01:27:48,320 --> 01:27:52,000
Speaker 2: you had these familiar names. But since the Warriors won

1792
01:27:52,080 --> 01:27:54,240
Speaker 2: back to back titles in seventeen and eighteen, the NBA

1793
01:27:54,320 --> 01:27:58,919
Speaker 2: scene seven different champions now and they've been eleven different finalists.

1794
01:27:58,960 --> 01:28:03,200
Speaker 2: Where am I going with this? There's parody largely because

1795
01:28:03,240 --> 01:28:06,880
Speaker 2: of the new financial structure. I think, do you think

1796
01:28:06,960 --> 01:28:09,160
Speaker 2: parody is good for the NBA or they need to

1797
01:28:09,240 --> 01:28:12,280
Speaker 2: get that dynasty that people love or love to hate.

1798
01:28:13,920 --> 01:28:14,160
Speaker 17: Yeah.

1799
01:28:14,600 --> 01:28:17,479
Speaker 9: I think as an objective NBA fan, I don't have

1800
01:28:17,560 --> 01:28:18,960
Speaker 9: a preference one way or the other.

1801
01:28:19,200 --> 01:28:21,800
Speaker 14: What matters is is a product on the floor good,

1802
01:28:22,120 --> 01:28:24,759
Speaker 14: and I think that there should be a middle ground.

1803
01:28:25,600 --> 01:28:27,680
Speaker 14: Parody is good for the NBA. You want to have

1804
01:28:27,880 --> 01:28:32,120
Speaker 14: competitive balance, But I think what's most important Bernie is

1805
01:28:32,240 --> 01:28:33,559
Speaker 14: sustained parody.

1806
01:28:34,040 --> 01:28:35,400
Speaker 9: I think you hit on the head that.

1807
01:28:35,439 --> 01:28:38,639
Speaker 14: There hasn't been a repeat champion since the Golden State

1808
01:28:38,680 --> 01:28:41,680
Speaker 14: Warriors in twenty eighteen. That doesn't mean that the win

1809
01:28:41,840 --> 01:28:45,439
Speaker 14: NBA championship. You have to have four All Stars for

1810
01:28:45,720 --> 01:28:48,240
Speaker 14: future Hall of Famers on your team to compete. But

1811
01:28:48,400 --> 01:28:50,000
Speaker 14: at the same time, you have to be able to

1812
01:28:50,080 --> 01:28:51,080
Speaker 14: retain your players.

1813
01:28:51,160 --> 01:28:51,439
Speaker 4: And so.

1814
01:28:53,120 --> 01:28:55,360
Speaker 14: You know the fact that we're talking about second apron

1815
01:28:55,439 --> 01:28:58,760
Speaker 14: concerns and all that, I get it. You know, not

1816
01:29:00,200 --> 01:29:02,920
Speaker 14: every small market team has the kind of revenue sources

1817
01:29:02,960 --> 01:29:06,240
Speaker 14: that big market teams have. But there needs to be

1818
01:29:06,560 --> 01:29:12,120
Speaker 14: a distinguishable feature here on the penalties that teams incur

1819
01:29:12,400 --> 01:29:16,320
Speaker 14: when they spend money on free agents versus players that

1820
01:29:16,520 --> 01:29:20,800
Speaker 14: they draft and then develop. And so what's said here

1821
01:29:20,960 --> 01:29:23,840
Speaker 14: is that you know, a team that drafts really well

1822
01:29:24,760 --> 01:29:28,559
Speaker 14: might be you know, their fruits of their labor come

1823
01:29:28,600 --> 01:29:32,000
Speaker 14: to fruition here, but that once those players are eligible

1824
01:29:32,479 --> 01:29:36,439
Speaker 14: for rookie extensions and the next extension after that, they

1825
01:29:36,479 --> 01:29:37,880
Speaker 14: can't afford it anymore.

1826
01:29:37,560 --> 01:29:38,320
Speaker 9: And they have to punt.

1827
01:29:38,439 --> 01:29:41,320
Speaker 14: And I don't think that I think it's almost self defeating.

1828
01:29:41,840 --> 01:29:44,360
Speaker 14: They're saying that they want teams to be rewarded for

1829
01:29:44,479 --> 01:29:48,080
Speaker 14: making good decisions and player development, and then they're attacking

1830
01:29:48,160 --> 01:29:50,719
Speaker 14: the second apron things. So they have to distinguish again

1831
01:29:51,240 --> 01:29:55,719
Speaker 14: between free agents players and players that they drafted from within.

1832
01:29:56,160 --> 01:29:59,120
Speaker 14: And I suspect that they will do that, but so

1833
01:29:59,280 --> 01:30:01,880
Speaker 14: far it hasn't. As a result, it's created a lot

1834
01:30:01,960 --> 01:30:05,240
Speaker 14: of you know issues that you know, teams are making

1835
01:30:05,320 --> 01:30:08,200
Speaker 14: more business decisions than basketball decisions.

1836
01:30:08,720 --> 01:30:12,800
Speaker 2: Well, you're seeing more dispersion of talent, maybe, you know,

1837
01:30:13,160 --> 01:30:16,559
Speaker 2: not more now than in the last fifty years. I mean,

1838
01:30:16,600 --> 01:30:18,439
Speaker 2: the seventies had a lot of parody and ended up

1839
01:30:18,479 --> 01:30:22,040
Speaker 2: the NBA ended up merging with the ABA, and they

1840
01:30:22,120 --> 01:30:24,880
Speaker 2: brought more talent into the league. And I know, I mean,

1841
01:30:25,240 --> 01:30:26,760
Speaker 2: some of this can be good because you have Kevin

1842
01:30:26,800 --> 01:30:29,280
Speaker 2: Durant going to Houston, right Luca going to the Lakers,

1843
01:30:29,360 --> 01:30:32,479
Speaker 2: and right on down the line. But it feels like

1844
01:30:32,600 --> 01:30:36,720
Speaker 2: without that dynasty there which the NBA has relied on,

1845
01:30:38,680 --> 01:30:42,600
Speaker 2: it's it's not quite the same vibe. But let's you know,

1846
01:30:42,640 --> 01:30:44,280
Speaker 2: I guess we have to see how it plays out, right.

1847
01:30:45,080 --> 01:30:47,479
Speaker 14: Yeah, And I think, Bernie, I think what we need

1848
01:30:47,560 --> 01:30:49,760
Speaker 14: to keep in mind here is that it doesn't have

1849
01:30:49,880 --> 01:30:52,240
Speaker 14: to be in either war. I think the product of

1850
01:30:52,360 --> 01:30:55,240
Speaker 14: the flour is ultimately what matters. And let's let's use

1851
01:30:55,280 --> 01:30:56,200
Speaker 14: these two examples.

1852
01:30:56,880 --> 01:30:57,879
Speaker 9: Warriors Cabs.

1853
01:30:58,240 --> 01:31:02,599
Speaker 14: They were very highly rated NBA Finals for obvious reasons,

1854
01:31:03,040 --> 01:31:07,040
Speaker 14: DEEPH Curry, Lebron James the later part of the final series,

1855
01:31:07,120 --> 01:31:11,400
Speaker 14: Kevin Durant, and some really good, interesting you know other

1856
01:31:11,520 --> 01:31:15,240
Speaker 14: players Kyrie Irving, Draymond Greenklay Thompson. But you look at

1857
01:31:15,280 --> 01:31:19,599
Speaker 14: the Indiana Pacers Oklahoma City Thunder Final this past year. Yeah,

1858
01:31:19,640 --> 01:31:23,599
Speaker 14: they had star poal with Shay Golders, Alexander and Tyris Colburn,

1859
01:31:23,680 --> 01:31:26,840
Speaker 14: but two small market teams, two teams that didn't really

1860
01:31:27,000 --> 01:31:30,839
Speaker 14: draw the needle nationally, but they played such great, compelling

1861
01:31:30,920 --> 01:31:35,000
Speaker 14: basketball that was a ratings gold as well. And so

1862
01:31:35,160 --> 01:31:38,839
Speaker 14: I think again it's about the stained parody and allowing

1863
01:31:38,880 --> 01:31:42,240
Speaker 14: a team like Oklahoma City in Indiana to keep that

1864
01:31:42,400 --> 01:31:45,080
Speaker 14: core as long as possible because most of that core,

1865
01:31:45,800 --> 01:31:48,759
Speaker 14: again have been players that they've drafted and developed. Now again,

1866
01:31:49,280 --> 01:31:52,200
Speaker 14: if they've gotten, you know, a key free agent or

1867
01:31:52,320 --> 01:31:55,800
Speaker 14: they made a key trade like a Pascal Biakham with

1868
01:31:55,920 --> 01:31:58,519
Speaker 14: the Pacers, that's a different story. But when you looking

1869
01:31:58,520 --> 01:32:03,000
Speaker 14: at the Thunder, Shay Go, just Alexander, Jalen Williams, Chet Hongrin.

1870
01:32:04,000 --> 01:32:04,439
Speaker 7: They should.

1871
01:32:04,640 --> 01:32:06,519
Speaker 14: They have earned the right to be able to retain

1872
01:32:06,640 --> 01:32:09,920
Speaker 14: those guys as long as possible without additional penalties because

1873
01:32:09,920 --> 01:32:11,240
Speaker 14: they drafted and developed them.

1874
01:32:11,439 --> 01:32:14,639
Speaker 2: I wonder if an amended new version of the old

1875
01:32:14,760 --> 01:32:16,840
Speaker 2: Larry Bird rule might be in order so you can

1876
01:32:16,840 --> 01:32:17,960
Speaker 2: at least retain your talent.

1877
01:32:18,720 --> 01:32:18,920
Speaker 15: Yeah.

1878
01:32:19,520 --> 01:32:22,479
Speaker 14: I mean, just as we've learned with the NBA and

1879
01:32:22,640 --> 01:32:25,719
Speaker 14: labor talks, they're always ongoing and a lot of times,

1880
01:32:26,280 --> 01:32:28,479
Speaker 14: you know, a new labor deal is to bridge to

1881
01:32:28,520 --> 01:32:32,599
Speaker 14: the next labor deal, and also it's to prevent a lockout.

1882
01:32:32,720 --> 01:32:36,040
Speaker 14: Sometimes it doesn't happen. Thankfully for the NBA recently it

1883
01:32:36,160 --> 01:32:38,680
Speaker 14: has they haven't had a lockout from twenty eleven. But

1884
01:32:38,840 --> 01:32:44,040
Speaker 14: I strongly suspect that both owners and the players Association

1885
01:32:44,120 --> 01:32:47,000
Speaker 14: are going to want to revisit this role because it's

1886
01:32:47,040 --> 01:32:50,519
Speaker 14: hams trum both the both parties here, and a lot

1887
01:32:50,560 --> 01:32:53,400
Speaker 14: of times both of those parties have different agendas. In

1888
01:32:53,520 --> 01:32:57,000
Speaker 14: this case, there's a mutual you know, I think benefit

1889
01:32:57,080 --> 01:32:57,960
Speaker 14: for them to change this.

1890
01:32:59,520 --> 01:33:03,160
Speaker 2: Wrap it up. Mark Mendina, Medina, Magic and Ernie Frouders show,

1891
01:33:03,200 --> 01:33:07,320
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio or NBA Guru or insider. All right,

1892
01:33:07,560 --> 01:33:10,000
Speaker 2: I am of the belief this is not going to

1893
01:33:10,040 --> 01:33:14,360
Speaker 2: be Lebron James last year. We'll see. No one knows,

1894
01:33:14,439 --> 01:33:17,160
Speaker 2: but I feel pretty secure in the knowledge that it's

1895
01:33:17,240 --> 01:33:20,160
Speaker 2: just not going to be. Now I'm hearing floating in

1896
01:33:20,240 --> 01:33:23,360
Speaker 2: the wind that there could be as many let's fast

1897
01:33:23,400 --> 01:33:27,479
Speaker 2: forward to the summer of twenty twenty six. I do

1898
01:33:27,600 --> 01:33:30,880
Speaker 2: not believe Mark Walter will he'll he'll drive Lebron to

1899
01:33:30,960 --> 01:33:32,719
Speaker 2: the airport. I think he'll have had enough of Lebron.

1900
01:33:32,760 --> 01:33:35,080
Speaker 2: That's just my opinion. But here's where I'm going with that.

1901
01:33:37,800 --> 01:33:39,880
Speaker 2: I'm hearing there could be as many as three teams

1902
01:33:39,920 --> 01:33:43,040
Speaker 2: that actually reach out to Lebron in the summer of

1903
01:33:43,080 --> 01:33:47,080
Speaker 2: twenty twenty six, potentially the Calves, the MAVs and the

1904
01:33:47,120 --> 01:33:50,120
Speaker 2: Golden State Warriors. Are you hearing that or are you

1905
01:33:50,240 --> 01:33:53,840
Speaker 2: hearing anything VSA VI Lebron and this not being his

1906
01:33:54,040 --> 01:33:54,519
Speaker 2: last year?

1907
01:33:55,800 --> 01:33:58,360
Speaker 9: Yeah, I think it's way too early. I mean, teams

1908
01:33:58,400 --> 01:34:01,640
Speaker 9: are you know, obviously prepared, wearing contingency plans, and I

1909
01:34:01,720 --> 01:34:04,000
Speaker 9: want to be surprised those teams that you listed are

1910
01:34:04,160 --> 01:34:08,120
Speaker 9: part of that, as well as the Lakers. But you know, frankly,

1911
01:34:08,439 --> 01:34:10,439
Speaker 9: they have to have a whole season to go through

1912
01:34:10,520 --> 01:34:13,840
Speaker 9: this because the ultimate variable that's going to determine.

1913
01:34:13,360 --> 01:34:18,679
Speaker 14: This is father time and how well how much will

1914
01:34:18,800 --> 01:34:21,800
Speaker 14: that variable go into play With how good of a

1915
01:34:21,880 --> 01:34:24,120
Speaker 14: player he is, We've seen he's playing an all star

1916
01:34:24,240 --> 01:34:27,200
Speaker 14: caliber levels so far. He's not the same player as

1917
01:34:27,240 --> 01:34:29,840
Speaker 14: he was in his prime, but still all star caliber level.

1918
01:34:29,920 --> 01:34:32,639
Speaker 14: Does he fall off a cliff with that from both

1919
01:34:32,640 --> 01:34:36,000
Speaker 14: a health and production standpoint or does he sustain that

1920
01:34:36,160 --> 01:34:39,760
Speaker 14: moving forward? Then I think the next benchmark is what

1921
01:34:40,160 --> 01:34:43,519
Speaker 14: price is Lebron James expecting. Again, it's going to depend

1922
01:34:43,600 --> 01:34:46,360
Speaker 14: on how well he's playing, But you know some teams

1923
01:34:46,400 --> 01:34:48,240
Speaker 14: have cap sphase. I think the Lakers. I don't think

1924
01:34:48,240 --> 01:34:50,960
Speaker 14: they're opposed to keeping him. It's just a matter of

1925
01:34:51,080 --> 01:34:55,280
Speaker 14: how much money it is. And I think the reason

1926
01:34:55,400 --> 01:34:58,559
Speaker 14: why they're not signing the extension is that they want

1927
01:34:58,600 --> 01:35:00,960
Speaker 14: to have that flexed ability so they don't have to

1928
01:35:01,040 --> 01:35:07,160
Speaker 14: make a decision August tenth, twenty twenty five, since you know,

1929
01:35:07,280 --> 01:35:10,320
Speaker 14: they have ten months to figure that out and a

1930
01:35:10,400 --> 01:35:14,040
Speaker 14: whole season to see how all these different variables sort out.

1931
01:35:14,200 --> 01:35:18,799
Speaker 14: So I think that that variable number one with Lebron

1932
01:35:19,360 --> 01:35:22,720
Speaker 14: it's his own expectations. He's made it clear that he

1933
01:35:22,880 --> 01:35:25,439
Speaker 14: doesn't want to be a player like Vince Carter that's

1934
01:35:25,520 --> 01:35:27,920
Speaker 14: going to just keep prolonging his career just for the

1935
01:35:28,000 --> 01:35:29,960
Speaker 14: sake of it. He's not going to want to be

1936
01:35:30,000 --> 01:35:32,360
Speaker 14: a role player. He's not going to want to be

1937
01:35:32,479 --> 01:35:36,400
Speaker 14: a player that's taking that minimum contracts or you know,

1938
01:35:36,560 --> 01:35:40,760
Speaker 14: even you know, the five point five million, with the

1939
01:35:40,840 --> 01:35:44,200
Speaker 14: mid level he's going to expect maybe not max level,

1940
01:35:44,280 --> 01:35:47,760
Speaker 14: but still pretty high. So it's really a matter of

1941
01:35:48,680 --> 01:35:51,200
Speaker 14: is he playing well enough, is he healthy enough? But

1942
01:35:51,320 --> 01:35:53,160
Speaker 14: warn't that contract and going to go from there. I

1943
01:35:53,240 --> 01:35:56,240
Speaker 14: think the only scenario where I could see him doing

1944
01:35:56,320 --> 01:35:59,759
Speaker 14: that that minimum type of thing is with Cleveland because

1945
01:35:59,760 --> 01:36:03,240
Speaker 14: of the hometown connection. I think even that's the stretch

1946
01:36:03,320 --> 01:36:05,439
Speaker 14: because if he does that is he's not going to

1947
01:36:05,520 --> 01:36:08,360
Speaker 14: get credit for any championship they win. It's going to

1948
01:36:08,439 --> 01:36:11,400
Speaker 14: be about, oh, yeah, you were just being a mercenary

1949
01:36:11,560 --> 01:36:16,200
Speaker 14: and all that. So I don't think it's his last year,

1950
01:36:16,400 --> 01:36:19,439
Speaker 14: But I also don't know how all this stuff's gonna

1951
01:36:19,439 --> 01:36:21,200
Speaker 14: play out, And frankly, no one does.

1952
01:36:21,720 --> 01:36:23,559
Speaker 2: Well as far as any of his statements, with all

1953
01:36:23,600 --> 01:36:26,640
Speaker 2: due respect to Lebron, I don't know anything's possible. Right

1954
01:36:26,920 --> 01:36:29,160
Speaker 2: Bob Euker wants hit a home run off Sandy Kofax.

1955
01:36:29,240 --> 01:36:35,400
Speaker 2: So anything's possible. But Lebron with all I say this,

1956
01:36:35,520 --> 01:36:38,560
Speaker 2: with all due regard. If Lebron told me he was

1957
01:36:38,600 --> 01:36:40,400
Speaker 2: going to be eighty and Sunday tomorrow, I buy three

1958
01:36:40,439 --> 01:36:43,280
Speaker 2: top coats. He isn't no credibility with that, with anything

1959
01:36:43,360 --> 01:36:48,160
Speaker 2: he says. So let's see what he does. Let mean, well,

1960
01:36:48,400 --> 01:36:51,519
Speaker 2: ten seconds of overtime here. I can't see the Lakers

1961
01:36:51,600 --> 01:36:55,400
Speaker 2: giving him a farewell tour this year, do you? And

1962
01:36:55,479 --> 01:36:58,040
Speaker 2: he's gonna want one, but I can't see that, can you.

1963
01:37:00,000 --> 01:37:02,640
Speaker 14: Well, here's the thing. I mean, if you want me

1964
01:37:02,680 --> 01:37:05,560
Speaker 14: to make a click the quick go ahead, it's not

1965
01:37:05,720 --> 01:37:09,000
Speaker 14: like Kobe. Here's the reason why it's hard to do

1966
01:37:09,160 --> 01:37:11,920
Speaker 14: this for both parties. It's not like Kobe Bryant, not

1967
01:37:12,040 --> 01:37:15,320
Speaker 14: because oh he was this beloved Laker. It's because Kobe's

1968
01:37:15,360 --> 01:37:18,840
Speaker 14: retirement was crystallized because his body was banged up and

1969
01:37:19,000 --> 01:37:20,680
Speaker 14: Kobe saw the ray on the wall. And I think

1970
01:37:20,720 --> 01:37:23,799
Speaker 14: that's the challenging part for both the Lakers and Lebron.

1971
01:37:23,920 --> 01:37:26,120
Speaker 14: If he's still playing at this high of a level,

1972
01:37:26,520 --> 01:37:29,519
Speaker 14: I don't think even Lebron, whose attention seeking all that,

1973
01:37:30,040 --> 01:37:33,200
Speaker 14: is going to be within the having that kind of

1974
01:37:33,400 --> 01:37:36,120
Speaker 14: thought process of winning that farewell Tour because he still

1975
01:37:36,160 --> 01:37:38,320
Speaker 14: has a chance to win a title. And I think

1976
01:37:38,400 --> 01:37:42,040
Speaker 14: that's also what makes things complicated for him on when

1977
01:37:43,040 --> 01:37:46,519
Speaker 14: his final year will be. If he has an injury

1978
01:37:46,840 --> 01:37:50,120
Speaker 14: and is going through struggles, that's in a weird way,

1979
01:37:50,280 --> 01:37:52,760
Speaker 14: going to make this a lot easier because he knows

1980
01:37:52,880 --> 01:37:55,400
Speaker 14: that he's not the same player as he once was,

1981
01:37:55,560 --> 01:37:57,840
Speaker 14: but a good problem on his hands. The same thing

1982
01:37:57,880 --> 01:38:00,479
Speaker 14: with the Lakers is that he's the five the odds

1983
01:38:00,520 --> 01:38:02,439
Speaker 14: at least still playing at All Star caliber.

1984
01:38:03,560 --> 01:38:06,840
Speaker 2: And this is the guy who said ring culture is overrated.

1985
01:38:08,720 --> 01:38:11,559
Speaker 2: So we could go on all night. No, it would

1986
01:38:11,560 --> 01:38:15,120
Speaker 2: be a good back and forth, and it's it's really

1987
01:38:15,520 --> 01:38:19,160
Speaker 2: an imponderable And look, you know, we all saw Kobe

1988
01:38:19,240 --> 01:38:22,160
Speaker 2: sixty point game in his swans on he played sixty

1989
01:38:22,200 --> 01:38:25,880
Speaker 2: six games in his final year, so he rallied, you know.

1990
01:38:26,160 --> 01:38:29,240
Speaker 2: And Kobe is to me a lot more introspective and

1991
01:38:29,640 --> 01:38:32,719
Speaker 2: much he has a lot more depth, just a different

1992
01:38:32,840 --> 01:38:33,639
Speaker 2: human being.

1993
01:38:33,600 --> 01:38:36,640
Speaker 14: In every without a doubt, Bernie. But I mean I

1994
01:38:36,760 --> 01:38:39,320
Speaker 14: covered that Lakers team. They're terrible. They had the worst

1995
01:38:39,360 --> 01:38:42,920
Speaker 14: record in franchise history. He was battling injuries, he has

1996
01:38:42,960 --> 01:38:46,720
Speaker 14: his worst shooting percentage of his career, and that very

1997
01:38:46,840 --> 01:38:50,120
Speaker 14: much set the tone on why he was accepting a

1998
01:38:50,240 --> 01:38:53,839
Speaker 14: farewell tour, as well as saying, you know in November

1999
01:38:53,960 --> 01:38:56,599
Speaker 14: it's his last season. If he was on a playoff

2000
01:38:56,720 --> 01:39:00,680
Speaker 14: caliber team, he would have not gone through that, and

2001
01:39:00,760 --> 01:39:03,479
Speaker 14: it would have been a much different context because he's

2002
01:39:03,520 --> 01:39:06,840
Speaker 14: still had a shot. So again, even though Lebron is

2003
01:39:06,880 --> 01:39:10,040
Speaker 14: a different player, the way he does things that's differently

2004
01:39:10,160 --> 01:39:13,479
Speaker 14: than Kobe, I think the common thing is that because

2005
01:39:13,520 --> 01:39:17,920
Speaker 14: he's healthy, it's a much different thought process than It's

2006
01:39:18,120 --> 01:39:20,120
Speaker 14: very clear this is his final year.

2007
01:39:21,000 --> 01:39:24,400
Speaker 2: Fair, and I don't know that Lebron's going to be

2008
01:39:24,479 --> 01:39:25,960
Speaker 2: healthy this company. We'll see.

2009
01:39:26,000 --> 01:39:27,639
Speaker 14: I know he takes a call he's not gonna play

2010
01:39:27,680 --> 01:39:30,240
Speaker 14: all eighty two, but I think he'll be mostly available.

2011
01:39:30,520 --> 01:39:32,880
Speaker 9: And when he's been available, he's played mostly at.

2012
01:39:32,760 --> 01:39:33,320
Speaker 10: A high level.

2013
01:39:33,520 --> 01:39:36,000
Speaker 2: That's fair. I agree, Mark. We'll see you next week. Man,

2014
01:39:36,040 --> 01:39:36,600
Speaker 2: appreciate you.

2015
01:39:37,160 --> 01:39:37,880
Speaker 9: I appreciate you.

2016
01:39:38,680 --> 01:39:41,080
Speaker 2: By the way. For the best pregame show every weekend,

2017
01:39:41,160 --> 01:39:43,559
Speaker 2: be sure to tune into Fox Sports Radio's Countdown presented

2018
01:39:43,600 --> 01:39:47,080
Speaker 2: by BEDMGM, every Saturday and Sunday morning from now am

2019
01:39:47,160 --> 01:39:49,479
Speaker 2: to noon Eastern six to nine am Pacific, We'll count

2020
01:39:49,520 --> 01:39:51,679
Speaker 2: you down to all the biggest games. Tune into Countdown

2021
01:39:52,040 --> 01:39:54,640
Speaker 2: presented by BETMGM every Saturday and Sunday morning right here

2022
01:39:54,680 --> 01:39:59,720
Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeart Radio app. Coming up.

2023
01:40:00,040 --> 01:40:03,200
Speaker 2: Stop a little bit more into this MICHAEH. Partson's Jerry

2024
01:40:03,280 --> 01:40:06,280
Speaker 2: Jones thing, remember the other day. Don't lose any sleep

2025
01:40:06,360 --> 01:40:09,639
Speaker 2: over it. Let's unpack this. That's a very cryptic message

2026
01:40:09,680 --> 01:40:12,320
Speaker 2: in my view. I'm Bernie fradlewer Com toy line from

2027
01:40:12,320 --> 01:40:15,160
Speaker 2: the Las Vegas Fox Sports Radio Studios. Keep it locked

2028
01:40:15,160 --> 01:40:17,360
Speaker 2: you listen to the Bernie Frale Show on Fox Sports Radio.

2029
01:40:18,040 --> 01:40:20,920
Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

2030
01:40:20,960 --> 01:40:24,320
Speaker 3: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio

2031
01:40:24,479 --> 01:40:29,479
Speaker 3: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app searchsr to listen live.

2032
01:40:29,439 --> 01:40:32,559
Speaker 2: Al right back of the Bernie Frattle Show, Fox Sports

2033
01:40:33,120 --> 01:40:36,160
Speaker 2: Radio come to you live from the Fox Sports Radio

2034
01:40:36,240 --> 01:40:38,960
Speaker 2: Studios here in Las Vegas. We will take you all

2035
01:40:38,960 --> 01:40:42,679
Speaker 2: the way up to three am Pacific six am Eastern

2036
01:40:42,720 --> 01:40:45,760
Speaker 2: before we hand it up to the capable steady hand

2037
01:40:45,840 --> 01:40:51,799
Speaker 2: of the great Andy Furman. Now Saturday to see today's Sunday,

2038
01:40:51,920 --> 01:40:56,080
Speaker 2: August tenth. So this would have been Saturday, August second.

2039
01:40:57,280 --> 01:41:00,320
Speaker 2: Famous last words, don't lose any sleep over it. That

2040
01:41:00,520 --> 01:41:04,920
Speaker 2: was the warning Jerry Jones passed along to the media,

2041
01:41:05,800 --> 01:41:09,240
Speaker 2: basically saying, step off, relaxed, don't worry, nothing to see here.

2042
01:41:09,880 --> 01:41:13,360
Speaker 2: Right after Michael Parsons said he wanted to be traded

2043
01:41:13,400 --> 01:41:15,720
Speaker 2: and sent the letter to everybody who wanted to read

2044
01:41:15,760 --> 01:41:17,280
Speaker 2: it that I don't want to be a cowboy anymore.

2045
01:41:18,479 --> 01:41:22,000
Speaker 2: Jerry Jones is actually quite dismissive of it, saying, look,

2046
01:41:22,040 --> 01:41:25,240
Speaker 2: we're quote in good shape in terms of negotiations for

2047
01:41:25,400 --> 01:41:31,000
Speaker 2: a massive contract extension, and that for some put some

2048
01:41:31,160 --> 01:41:36,040
Speaker 2: cold water on the hysteria when it looked like the

2049
01:41:36,200 --> 01:41:40,639
Speaker 2: relationship between Jerry Jones and Michael Parsons was crumbling, crumbling,

2050
01:41:41,400 --> 01:41:44,160
Speaker 2: falling faster than an anvil and a bugs Bunny cartoon.

2051
01:41:44,240 --> 01:41:47,800
Speaker 2: But here's the deal on one side of the coin,

2052
01:41:47,880 --> 01:41:49,960
Speaker 2: and I think I was on this side. This is

2053
01:41:50,120 --> 01:41:52,760
Speaker 2: just simply another one of the Jerry Jones holding court

2054
01:41:52,960 --> 01:41:56,280
Speaker 2: side shows. And by the way, make no mistake, Jerry

2055
01:41:56,320 --> 01:42:00,920
Speaker 2: loves attention. There's about to be a docu series on Netflix,

2056
01:42:01,000 --> 01:42:06,400
Speaker 2: I think sometime in September, and uh, that'll be good

2057
01:42:06,439 --> 01:42:09,679
Speaker 2: for Jerry's ego, and a lot of people just feel

2058
01:42:09,720 --> 01:42:12,519
Speaker 2: that he'll eventually throw money at this deal and pay

2059
01:42:12,840 --> 01:42:14,640
Speaker 2: Michael or over pay him, just like he did with

2060
01:42:15,200 --> 01:42:17,639
Speaker 2: Cee Lamb and Dak and you know, all the way

2061
01:42:17,720 --> 01:42:21,280
Speaker 2: back throughout the years. But there are other people that

2062
01:42:21,360 --> 01:42:24,000
Speaker 2: are very smart, other people that are shrewd, other people

2063
01:42:24,120 --> 01:42:28,240
Speaker 2: that are maybe closer to the situation that don't necessarily

2064
01:42:28,400 --> 01:42:33,920
Speaker 2: agree with that. As a matter of fact, they're I'm

2065
01:42:33,920 --> 01:42:38,519
Speaker 2: actually hearing some some pessimissm some pessimism excuse me from

2066
01:42:39,240 --> 01:42:42,960
Speaker 2: from folks. Now they might that doesn't mean that Parsons

2067
01:42:43,040 --> 01:42:45,920
Speaker 2: and the cowboys might eventually get a deal done. And

2068
01:42:46,439 --> 01:42:49,960
Speaker 2: just like the other ones, it's all you know, it's

2069
01:42:50,000 --> 01:42:52,000
Speaker 2: all peaches and cream, and they all they're all right

2070
01:42:52,040 --> 01:42:54,479
Speaker 2: off into the sunset and Dallas goes seven and ten again.

2071
01:42:55,479 --> 01:43:01,280
Speaker 2: But for that matter, to be settled in the way

2072
01:43:01,360 --> 01:43:03,280
Speaker 2: that people assume it might not might have been one

2073
01:43:03,320 --> 01:43:07,000
Speaker 2: of those crowds that assumed it might is met with

2074
01:43:07,080 --> 01:43:09,720
Speaker 2: skepticism by a lot of people because apparently they're far

2075
01:43:09,800 --> 01:43:13,560
Speaker 2: apart on numbers, and I think more people are nonplussed

2076
01:43:13,600 --> 01:43:16,519
Speaker 2: and kicked off at the process. How they got to

2077
01:43:16,640 --> 01:43:19,280
Speaker 2: this point and finally this new deal you see in

2078
01:43:19,360 --> 01:43:23,599
Speaker 2: the NFL, this holding right players show up. They don't

2079
01:43:23,600 --> 01:43:26,519
Speaker 2: want to pay fifty thousand a day, which is not

2080
01:43:26,720 --> 01:43:30,479
Speaker 2: recoverable as a fine in the National Football League, but

2081
01:43:30,560 --> 01:43:32,280
Speaker 2: they don't want to get hurt either, and they don't

2082
01:43:32,320 --> 01:43:35,280
Speaker 2: want to lose out. And so eventually there's going to

2083
01:43:35,320 --> 01:43:38,160
Speaker 2: be a real game. And if Mike is not paid

2084
01:43:38,200 --> 01:43:42,240
Speaker 2: before opening day, does he suit up? What does he do?

2085
01:43:42,439 --> 01:43:46,799
Speaker 2: This kid get really weird. They're just not very good vibes.

2086
01:43:47,360 --> 01:43:49,640
Speaker 2: And even though Jerry Jones tries to spend it in

2087
01:43:49,720 --> 01:43:52,400
Speaker 2: a way that only Jerry Jones can with the way

2088
01:43:52,439 --> 01:43:54,759
Speaker 2: he does on his radio shows and with the media,

2089
01:43:54,840 --> 01:43:57,040
Speaker 2: and they never never saw a microphone he didn't like.

2090
01:43:57,800 --> 01:44:01,600
Speaker 2: Right now, he's at a deficit because there are a

2091
01:44:01,640 --> 01:44:03,880
Speaker 2: lot of angry people from what I'm hearing, all right.

2092
01:44:06,400 --> 01:44:11,320
Speaker 2: They there's one angle to this story that implies that

2093
01:44:11,520 --> 01:44:16,400
Speaker 2: Jerry Jones and his son Stephen, who's the executive VP

2094
01:44:16,640 --> 01:44:22,280
Speaker 2: of the Dallas Cowboys, have taken it very personal, I think,

2095
01:44:22,920 --> 01:44:25,840
Speaker 2: and they've they've they've taken great umbrage to the fact

2096
01:44:26,600 --> 01:44:30,080
Speaker 2: that they believe that, at least in their opinion, Michael

2097
01:44:30,120 --> 01:44:32,559
Speaker 2: Parsons agreed to a framework of a deal about five

2098
01:44:32,600 --> 01:44:36,040
Speaker 2: months ago and isn't honoring it now. Parsons he has

2099
01:44:36,120 --> 01:44:39,760
Speaker 2: aside in the story too. It's it's only natural that

2100
01:44:39,840 --> 01:44:43,559
Speaker 2: he'd be ticked off because you'll hire agents for a reason.

2101
01:44:43,640 --> 01:44:46,320
Speaker 2: And if the cowboys are trying to freeze out his

2102
01:44:46,400 --> 01:44:48,599
Speaker 2: agent and hold them to terms he claims that were

2103
01:44:48,640 --> 01:44:52,679
Speaker 2: never finalized, you've got a real hat peel and McCoy

2104
01:44:52,800 --> 01:44:56,600
Speaker 2: deal happened here now, it stands to reason. David Mulligata,

2105
01:44:57,120 --> 01:45:01,520
Speaker 2: he's the agent. The name of the agent for Michaeh Parsons.

2106
01:45:02,760 --> 01:45:05,360
Speaker 2: If all this has happened is the way we've been told.

2107
01:45:06,240 --> 01:45:10,160
Speaker 2: He feels very disped by Jerry Jones. And Jerry Jones

2108
01:45:11,400 --> 01:45:14,599
Speaker 2: I guess he was very candidate open just earlier this week.

2109
01:45:15,160 --> 01:45:19,160
Speaker 2: There hasn't been any communication between Michaeh Parsons agent and

2110
01:45:19,280 --> 01:45:25,840
Speaker 2: Jerry in four months. So who can you blame? I

2111
01:45:25,960 --> 01:45:29,120
Speaker 2: think unfortunately in this situation, if you peel back the onion,

2112
01:45:29,520 --> 01:45:34,040
Speaker 2: there's blame to go around. Okay, every time Jerry Jones

2113
01:45:34,160 --> 01:45:38,639
Speaker 2: tries to engage in direct negotiations with a player, it's

2114
01:45:41,439 --> 01:45:43,400
Speaker 2: what you know, what word am I looking for here.

2115
01:45:43,880 --> 01:45:47,920
Speaker 2: It's fairly well nonsensical. It can be a little patronizing,

2116
01:45:48,640 --> 01:45:52,000
Speaker 2: but it's also ineffective because there's a reason players higher agents,

2117
01:45:53,080 --> 01:45:55,600
Speaker 2: and this is a procedure that's long been established by

2118
01:45:55,640 --> 01:45:59,920
Speaker 2: players associations in all leagues. It represents everybody's collective interest.

2119
01:46:00,320 --> 01:46:04,200
Speaker 2: It's a process, it's a it's an obvious linear process

2120
01:46:04,880 --> 01:46:08,080
Speaker 2: that should be honored. And Jerry Jones knows better. I mean,

2121
01:46:08,120 --> 01:46:12,760
Speaker 2: he's an owner, he's an employer. He understands that. You know,

2122
01:46:13,320 --> 01:46:17,400
Speaker 2: it probably his best interest as well to honor the

2123
01:46:17,479 --> 01:46:21,240
Speaker 2: process because maybe these deals get done faster, his player

2124
01:46:21,320 --> 01:46:25,519
Speaker 2: can focus on playing and not be distracted. They're rules, right,

2125
01:46:26,120 --> 01:46:29,000
Speaker 2: and I think you have it's disrespectful to the agent,

2126
01:46:29,040 --> 01:46:33,560
Speaker 2: it's disrespectful to Michael Parsons. And Michael Parsons has a

2127
01:46:33,720 --> 01:46:38,000
Speaker 2: right while he's focusing on being a football player to

2128
01:46:38,240 --> 01:46:42,160
Speaker 2: have someone who's trained and licensed in this area to

2129
01:46:42,240 --> 01:46:48,720
Speaker 2: handle his money side, handle his business side. So I've

2130
01:46:48,960 --> 01:46:53,360
Speaker 2: referenced that Michael Parsons, maybe he shouldn't have alluded to

2131
01:46:53,479 --> 01:46:55,840
Speaker 2: money if that's what happened. Apparently they tried that with

2132
01:46:55,920 --> 01:46:58,680
Speaker 2: Dak Prescott and he turned he turned to you know,

2133
01:46:59,479 --> 01:47:01,000
Speaker 2: he turned to she Can said no, you talked to

2134
01:47:01,040 --> 01:47:05,760
Speaker 2: my agent. Then ever spent out of control, and then

2135
01:47:06,479 --> 01:47:08,280
Speaker 2: you know, you've got a situation that we're hearing that

2136
01:47:09,120 --> 01:47:11,439
Speaker 2: Jerry won't return. Mulligate has calls, but they have I

2137
01:47:11,479 --> 01:47:14,280
Speaker 2: don't know. So part of the issue here is that

2138
01:47:14,880 --> 01:47:17,200
Speaker 2: you're talking about one of the most powerful and respected

2139
01:47:17,240 --> 01:47:23,360
Speaker 2: agents in the NFL, and having observed how Ceedee Lamb

2140
01:47:23,960 --> 01:47:26,840
Speaker 2: and Dak Prescott and some of the names I've mentioned

2141
01:47:26,840 --> 01:47:28,800
Speaker 2: in the past, going all the way back to Emmon

2142
01:47:28,840 --> 01:47:32,880
Speaker 2: Smith in nineteen ninety three, ended up sort of in

2143
01:47:32,960 --> 01:47:37,639
Speaker 2: the same conundrum that Michael Parson says, is it fair

2144
01:47:37,760 --> 01:47:39,479
Speaker 2: that he maybe should have seen this come and given

2145
01:47:39,600 --> 01:47:45,840
Speaker 2: Jerry Jones in his past history. But somehow I don't

2146
01:47:45,880 --> 01:47:48,360
Speaker 2: want to be accusatory here because I don't know. I

2147
01:47:48,439 --> 01:47:51,559
Speaker 2: don't know. Is it possible. There was a substantive conversation

2148
01:47:51,720 --> 01:47:55,439
Speaker 2: between the agent and Michael Parsons and said, Micah, whatever

2149
01:47:55,520 --> 01:47:59,360
Speaker 2: you do, do not let Jerry Jones talk numbers with you.

2150
01:48:00,280 --> 01:48:03,640
Speaker 2: If he comes out of his mouth, you give it,

2151
01:48:03,720 --> 01:48:05,680
Speaker 2: you know, a very adamant reply. You're going to have

2152
01:48:05,760 --> 01:48:08,559
Speaker 2: to discuss that with my agent. And if he tries

2153
01:48:08,640 --> 01:48:10,240
Speaker 2: to go, you know, do an end run on you,

2154
01:48:10,560 --> 01:48:15,040
Speaker 2: or if he tries to you know, you know, headfake you,

2155
01:48:15,840 --> 01:48:19,280
Speaker 2: you basically say no, I thank you, but no, I

2156
01:48:19,400 --> 01:48:23,559
Speaker 2: got to go do this drill over here. So if

2157
01:48:23,600 --> 01:48:28,719
Speaker 2: we're being honest here, you know, Parsons, Michael Parsons, there's

2158
01:48:28,800 --> 01:48:33,040
Speaker 2: some culpability as well. Okay, now you kind of got

2159
01:48:33,160 --> 01:48:35,720
Speaker 2: to give my all pass. Maybe in his mind he

2160
01:48:35,880 --> 01:48:38,519
Speaker 2: was saying, Okay, why not I want to get this done.

2161
01:48:38,880 --> 01:48:41,560
Speaker 2: We can certainly discuss the mechanics of a deal. We

2162
01:48:41,680 --> 01:48:44,880
Speaker 2: can discuss the framework. Okay, it should have never gotten

2163
01:48:44,960 --> 01:48:50,160
Speaker 2: that far. That's bad formed by both sides. Again, last

2164
01:48:50,160 --> 01:48:52,799
Speaker 2: September wasn't that long ago. We're all old enough to remember.

2165
01:48:53,840 --> 01:48:56,760
Speaker 2: Dak got that four year, two hundred and forty million

2166
01:48:56,800 --> 01:48:59,640
Speaker 2: dollar extension about ten minutes before this season started. But

2167
01:48:59,760 --> 01:49:03,200
Speaker 2: it's how been reported that Jerry Jones tried to negotiate

2168
01:49:03,240 --> 01:49:06,400
Speaker 2: directly with Dak Prescott as well, but according to people

2169
01:49:06,520 --> 01:49:10,519
Speaker 2: that were close to the situation and his agent, Todd Frantz,

2170
01:49:11,120 --> 01:49:14,160
Speaker 2: Dak shut it down said, nope, talk to my agent period.

2171
01:49:15,280 --> 01:49:19,800
Speaker 2: And if it's true that subsequent to that, Jerry Jones

2172
01:49:19,880 --> 01:49:23,599
Speaker 2: is refusing to return David Malagatea's calls, and it bothered

2173
01:49:24,240 --> 01:49:28,840
Speaker 2: Michael Parsons that much. Maybe he shouldn't have reported to

2174
01:49:28,920 --> 01:49:31,720
Speaker 2: training camp in the first place. We know that you're

2175
01:49:31,880 --> 01:49:35,640
Speaker 2: subjected to some big time fines, big time forty to

2176
01:49:35,640 --> 01:49:38,080
Speaker 2: fifty grand a day, and if you miss a preseason

2177
01:49:38,160 --> 01:49:40,719
Speaker 2: game that could be as much as a million dollars

2178
01:49:41,200 --> 01:49:45,200
Speaker 2: a million three for every preseason game missed. But those

2179
01:49:45,320 --> 01:49:48,120
Speaker 2: might have been waivable at the team's discretion, which if

2180
01:49:48,200 --> 01:49:50,679
Speaker 2: it happens and you strike a deal, it Micah gets

2181
01:49:50,720 --> 01:49:54,160
Speaker 2: the deal he wants, you know, forty million a year,

2182
01:49:54,400 --> 01:49:57,560
Speaker 2: five years whatever, one hundred and twelve men guaranteed. I

2183
01:49:57,560 --> 01:50:00,479
Speaker 2: don't know what he wants. I really don't know. But

2184
01:50:00,640 --> 01:50:05,240
Speaker 2: see once Michael Parsons showed up to Dallas camp, and

2185
01:50:05,320 --> 01:50:08,240
Speaker 2: I'm not blaming him because from what I think I

2186
01:50:08,360 --> 01:50:10,920
Speaker 2: know about Michael Carson's he's a pretty straight up guy.

2187
01:50:12,400 --> 01:50:14,560
Speaker 2: Maybe not everybody loves him. I heard one of the

2188
01:50:14,600 --> 01:50:16,920
Speaker 2: callers say there's maybe they know some things I do own,

2189
01:50:17,400 --> 01:50:19,160
Speaker 2: But from what I've seen, the way he conducts his

2190
01:50:19,280 --> 01:50:21,280
Speaker 2: business seems like a pretty straight up guy to me.

2191
01:50:21,880 --> 01:50:24,519
Speaker 2: But under the terms of the CBA between the NFL

2192
01:50:25,120 --> 01:50:28,960
Speaker 2: and the Players Association. Once Michael Parsons showed up in camp,

2193
01:50:29,360 --> 01:50:31,760
Speaker 2: he basically kicked his leverage out the window and his

2194
01:50:31,880 --> 01:50:36,679
Speaker 2: options were down to nothing now because he's in camp.

2195
01:50:37,240 --> 01:50:42,120
Speaker 2: If Michael Parsons were to bolt camp, the Cowboys legally

2196
01:50:42,160 --> 01:50:44,400
Speaker 2: could send him quote a five day letter giving them

2197
01:50:44,439 --> 01:50:46,320
Speaker 2: the right to put him on the reserve left squad

2198
01:50:46,400 --> 01:50:49,680
Speaker 2: list if he doesn't return within five days. And once

2199
01:50:49,760 --> 01:50:53,240
Speaker 2: your place down that list, a player can be shut

2200
01:50:53,280 --> 01:50:56,960
Speaker 2: down for the season without pay, and his contract rolls

2201
01:50:56,960 --> 01:51:00,320
Speaker 2: into the next year. So now you're losing valuable free

2202
01:51:00,320 --> 01:51:03,840
Speaker 2: agent accumulation time. That would be a scorch or. It's

2203
01:51:03,960 --> 01:51:05,920
Speaker 2: option for both sides. Do I think it to get

2204
01:51:05,920 --> 01:51:08,719
Speaker 2: to that point. No, No, because Mike is still slated

2205
01:51:08,760 --> 01:51:12,479
Speaker 2: to make twenty four million this year and he says

2206
01:51:12,479 --> 01:51:16,040
Speaker 2: he wants to win, And that would be a dumb

2207
01:51:16,120 --> 01:51:18,400
Speaker 2: move for Jerry Jones because it's just throwing more gas

2208
01:51:18,479 --> 01:51:22,160
Speaker 2: on the fire on what is becoming a circus. They

2209
01:51:22,240 --> 01:51:23,840
Speaker 2: just need to put up a tent. It's getting worse

2210
01:51:23,880 --> 01:51:26,599
Speaker 2: by the year, and they went off a cliff last year,

2211
01:51:26,640 --> 01:51:28,880
Speaker 2: the Cowboys did, and I don't expect him to do

2212
01:51:29,000 --> 01:51:32,680
Speaker 2: much better this year. That tweet from August first that

2213
01:51:32,840 --> 01:51:36,599
Speaker 2: Michael Parsons said thank you Dallas with all the emojis. Man,

2214
01:51:36,720 --> 01:51:41,000
Speaker 2: I grew up cheering, you know, for the Cowboys in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania.

2215
01:51:41,360 --> 01:51:43,800
Speaker 2: But I no longer want to be held with these

2216
01:51:43,840 --> 01:51:46,320
Speaker 2: closed door negotiations without my agent. I don't want to

2217
01:51:46,360 --> 01:51:47,639
Speaker 2: do this. I don't want to be a cowboy. Blah

2218
01:51:47,640 --> 01:51:52,479
Speaker 2: blah blah. But Parsons didn't bolt camp. He showed up.

2219
01:51:52,560 --> 01:51:54,639
Speaker 2: He looks like he's here there to stay. I don't

2220
01:51:54,640 --> 01:51:57,320
Speaker 2: know what his activity level has been, but rather than

2221
01:51:57,400 --> 01:52:00,600
Speaker 2: take the chance, he's doing the old quote hold in.

2222
01:52:01,200 --> 01:52:03,920
Speaker 2: He's participating in meetings, but he's not practicing. He's not

2223
01:52:04,000 --> 01:52:08,200
Speaker 2: in pads. And I hear he's quote citing a back injury.

2224
01:52:09,439 --> 01:52:09,599
Speaker 6: Now.

2225
01:52:10,800 --> 01:52:14,599
Speaker 2: Jalen Ramsey, who wanted out of Jacksonville six years ago,

2226
01:52:15,200 --> 01:52:17,160
Speaker 2: I think, did the same thing. He told his team

2227
01:52:17,280 --> 01:52:19,960
Speaker 2: to back his back hurt, and he missed several games

2228
01:52:19,960 --> 01:52:22,240
Speaker 2: before the Jaguars just shipped him to the Rams, and

2229
01:52:22,320 --> 01:52:26,280
Speaker 2: then magically, miraculously, his back troubles cleared up and he

2230
01:52:26,360 --> 01:52:28,920
Speaker 2: played in a game just a few days after the

2231
01:52:29,000 --> 01:52:31,920
Speaker 2: trade and stayed. Was didn't miss any games the rest

2232
01:52:31,960 --> 01:52:35,360
Speaker 2: of the season. From you know, there's other brinksmanship that

2233
01:52:35,439 --> 01:52:37,679
Speaker 2: goes on. If you recall last year with the forty

2234
01:52:37,760 --> 01:52:40,519
Speaker 2: nine Ers, a very good receiver by the name of

2235
01:52:40,560 --> 01:52:43,960
Speaker 2: Brandon Nyuk. Now he's not represented by David Bullagata, he

2236
01:52:44,040 --> 01:52:46,479
Speaker 2: staged the training camp hold in telling the final the

2237
01:52:46,560 --> 01:52:50,720
Speaker 2: forty nine Ers his back was sore. Tell what I'm

2238
01:52:50,720 --> 01:52:53,559
Speaker 2: gonna do. We're gonna continue this because I also want

2239
01:52:53,600 --> 01:52:56,320
Speaker 2: to get to another key player who's not getting paid

2240
01:52:57,280 --> 01:53:00,200
Speaker 2: and we're hearing his ages being held against him. We'll

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01:53:00,240 --> 01:53:05,040
Speaker 2: share that as well as this off you know, off

2242
01:53:05,160 --> 01:53:09,960
Speaker 2: the field brinksmanship continues between player and owner. I Bernie

2243
01:53:09,960 --> 01:53:11,720
Speaker 2: Fraddle were coming to a line from Las Vegas Fox

2244
01:53:11,720 --> 01:53:13,640
Speaker 2: Sports Radio Studios. Keep it locked or listening to the

2245
01:53:13,640 --> 01:53:16,240
Speaker 2: Bernie Fraddle Show Fox Sports Radio. All right, we're back

2246
01:53:16,240 --> 01:53:21,000
Speaker 2: at the Bernie Fraddle Show, Fox Sports Radio, continuing on

2247
01:53:21,240 --> 01:53:25,720
Speaker 2: with the Jerry Jones Michael Parson saga. We'll see where

2248
01:53:25,720 --> 01:53:28,519
Speaker 2: it goes. But the reason I invoke the name of

2249
01:53:28,600 --> 01:53:32,640
Speaker 2: Brandon Ayuk is that this is nothing new when you

2250
01:53:32,760 --> 01:53:37,760
Speaker 2: have players that have a different view than their employer has.

2251
01:53:38,600 --> 01:53:42,040
Speaker 2: Brad and Ayuk is a talented receiver. His contract situation

2252
01:53:42,800 --> 01:53:47,240
Speaker 2: was similar to Michael Parsons, he was a wide receiver

2253
01:53:47,400 --> 01:53:51,840
Speaker 2: for the Niners. He did the hold in a telling

2254
01:53:51,920 --> 01:53:54,960
Speaker 2: the Niners his back was sore. Now, I's got a

2255
01:53:55,000 --> 01:53:57,920
Speaker 2: little different personality, he told he has mood swings, and

2256
01:53:58,800 --> 01:54:04,120
Speaker 2: he has a situation where his his you know, desires

2257
01:54:04,200 --> 01:54:09,799
Speaker 2: can can fluctuate and he can be difficult. And Kyle Shanahan,

2258
01:54:09,920 --> 01:54:12,680
Speaker 2: I think, perceived Brandon Ayuk, while talented, to be a

2259
01:54:12,720 --> 01:54:16,160
Speaker 2: little immature. And so the Niners said, hell with it,

2260
01:54:16,240 --> 01:54:18,280
Speaker 2: We're not putting up with this, Okay. They hit a

2261
01:54:18,320 --> 01:54:20,840
Speaker 2: bit of a breaking point, and they got into some

2262
01:54:20,960 --> 01:54:24,880
Speaker 2: trade discussions with multiple teams. At one point though they

2263
01:54:24,960 --> 01:54:30,200
Speaker 2: medically cleared Ayuk to return, and he's still elected to

2264
01:54:30,200 --> 01:54:33,920
Speaker 2: stay away from practice. And then when that happened, it

2265
01:54:34,040 --> 01:54:36,560
Speaker 2: only took about twenty four hours. The Diners worked out

2266
01:54:36,600 --> 01:54:41,680
Speaker 2: of trade with the Pittsburgh Steelers, and the next day

2267
01:54:41,760 --> 01:54:47,040
Speaker 2: we're told that after a conversation with Brandon Ayuk convinced

2268
01:54:47,280 --> 01:54:50,720
Speaker 2: Mike Kyle shann and excuse me, that he would accept

2269
01:54:50,760 --> 01:54:58,160
Speaker 2: the team's latest contract offer. I don't think he was

2270
01:54:58,200 --> 01:55:00,760
Speaker 2: too happy about it, and he met John Lynch and

2271
01:55:01,000 --> 01:55:04,640
Speaker 2: said no, no, no, I don't know. So there was drama.

2272
01:55:04,800 --> 01:55:05,040
Speaker 10: Okay.

2273
01:55:05,800 --> 01:55:10,680
Speaker 2: The bottom line, he didn't get traded to Pittsburgh at

2274
01:55:10,720 --> 01:55:14,080
Speaker 2: the time he got paid IOH did, and then he

2275
01:55:14,160 --> 01:55:16,200
Speaker 2: proceeded to have a very slow start to the season

2276
01:55:16,680 --> 01:55:20,440
Speaker 2: and then he has an ACL in mid October that

2277
01:55:20,560 --> 01:55:23,800
Speaker 2: cost him the regular the rest of the year. In retrospect,

2278
01:55:23,840 --> 01:55:26,960
Speaker 2: he could have ended up with Pittsburgh and if you're

2279
01:55:27,640 --> 01:55:30,080
Speaker 2: if you're Kyle Shanahan and John Lynch, you might be

2280
01:55:30,160 --> 01:55:35,880
Speaker 2: wishing he had. Okay, So the difference, there's multiple differences here.

2281
01:55:35,920 --> 01:55:37,920
Speaker 2: Even though he's just like a Yogi Barra thing, there's

2282
01:55:37,960 --> 01:55:41,200
Speaker 2: different similarities. Okay, you got a disgruntled player, you got

2283
01:55:41,200 --> 01:55:46,640
Speaker 2: a team that's fighting back. But the Niners were dealing

2284
01:55:46,720 --> 01:55:48,960
Speaker 2: from a much more better position of strength than the

2285
01:55:49,040 --> 01:55:51,920
Speaker 2: Cowboys were. Remember, they were coming off their second Super

2286
01:55:51,960 --> 01:55:57,360
Speaker 2: Bowl appearance in what five years, their fourth NFC championship

2287
01:55:57,440 --> 01:56:00,320
Speaker 2: game in five years, and held the Cowboys. He hadn't

2288
01:56:00,320 --> 01:56:02,640
Speaker 2: won a playoff game in three, you know, thirty years,

2289
01:56:03,480 --> 01:56:05,960
Speaker 2: And now you've got a rookie coach and Brian Schottenheimer

2290
01:56:06,000 --> 01:56:08,520
Speaker 2: who's trying to figure out what the hell's going on,

2291
01:56:08,640 --> 01:56:12,520
Speaker 2: and the street runs easter or west, and he's in

2292
01:56:12,600 --> 01:56:15,440
Speaker 2: this high profile job with a high profile team and

2293
01:56:15,560 --> 01:56:19,920
Speaker 2: a marquee team. And you know, Jerry Jones can say,

2294
01:56:20,280 --> 01:56:22,880
Speaker 2: don't lose sleep over it. But but based on what now?

2295
01:56:22,960 --> 01:56:25,080
Speaker 2: Jerry can say that because he could wake up tomorrow

2296
01:56:25,080 --> 01:56:26,360
Speaker 2: and say, I'll tell you what, Micha, I'm gonna give

2297
01:56:26,360 --> 01:56:28,400
Speaker 2: you forty one million a year. You'd be the highest

2298
01:56:28,440 --> 01:56:31,440
Speaker 2: paid defensive player, and you're going to you know, we'll

2299
01:56:31,480 --> 01:56:33,360
Speaker 2: give you a five year deal. We're gonna guarantee eighty

2300
01:56:33,400 --> 01:56:35,200
Speaker 2: percent of it wrong. He can do anything he wants.

2301
01:56:36,160 --> 01:56:38,600
Speaker 2: Like the earlier callers said, the minute are the NFL

2302
01:56:38,680 --> 01:56:44,280
Speaker 2: prints money. They really do. But the only reason Jerry

2303
01:56:44,320 --> 01:56:46,240
Speaker 2: would be optimistic is he knows he's got that in

2304
01:56:46,280 --> 01:56:51,600
Speaker 2: his hip pocket. Okay, if he hasn't talked to MICA's

2305
01:56:51,600 --> 01:56:53,800
Speaker 2: agent in four months, what did you do call him

2306
01:56:53,840 --> 01:56:55,760
Speaker 2: up all of a sudden and say, Okay, here's a

2307
01:56:55,840 --> 01:56:59,440
Speaker 2: better deal for you. Right by the way, Dallas has

2308
01:56:59,520 --> 01:57:03,560
Speaker 2: some leverage. You know, Parsons is due to make twenty

2309
01:57:03,600 --> 01:57:05,560
Speaker 2: four million this season because he's on the fifth year

2310
01:57:05,600 --> 01:57:09,200
Speaker 2: option of his rookie deal, and the Cowboys hold even

2311
01:57:09,240 --> 01:57:13,480
Speaker 2: another card. Michael Parsons could be franchise tagged after the

2312
01:57:13,560 --> 01:57:17,120
Speaker 2: season and again after the next one. And you know

2313
01:57:17,320 --> 01:57:19,760
Speaker 2: we saw Kirk Cousins take advantage of that in Washington,

2314
01:57:19,800 --> 01:57:23,720
Speaker 2: a little different situation. And so here's now where the

2315
01:57:23,800 --> 01:57:29,320
Speaker 2: staredown becomes. Does Jerry believe that Michael Parsons will stick

2316
01:57:29,360 --> 01:57:33,360
Speaker 2: to is I'm injured. I can't play when the season

2317
01:57:33,400 --> 01:57:36,440
Speaker 2: opener rolls around, or even through the entire season. I

2318
01:57:36,440 --> 01:57:39,160
Speaker 2: remember Le'Veon Bell tried this and it didn't work out.

2319
01:57:40,000 --> 01:57:42,720
Speaker 2: So this is where it gets dizy, because the clock

2320
01:57:42,840 --> 01:57:46,840
Speaker 2: is ticking and one of these two sides is miscalculating.

2321
01:57:47,560 --> 01:57:50,120
Speaker 2: If Jerry Jones is the one miscalculating this time, and

2322
01:57:50,200 --> 01:57:53,040
Speaker 2: Michael Parsons has a backbone and says, hell with you guys,

2323
01:57:53,080 --> 01:57:56,000
Speaker 2: I will sit out the season, Okay, I don't know.

2324
01:57:57,200 --> 01:58:00,320
Speaker 2: Then at that point I guess you really can't out

2325
01:58:00,320 --> 01:58:03,680
Speaker 2: of trade. And at that point, I mean, if you're

2326
01:58:04,120 --> 01:58:06,800
Speaker 2: this really wants to get ugly, you can't even rule

2327
01:58:06,840 --> 01:58:12,160
Speaker 2: out a Cowboys suspension. Then it's presumed that Michael Parsons

2328
01:58:12,640 --> 01:58:16,720
Speaker 2: with finally grievance. So if Jerry's telling you not to

2329
01:58:16,840 --> 01:58:20,880
Speaker 2: lose sleep, I don't know how true Cowboy fans don't

2330
01:58:20,920 --> 01:58:24,000
Speaker 2: lose sleep all right, this whole bad back routine, the

2331
01:58:24,240 --> 01:58:27,480
Speaker 2: you know, the banana and the tailpipe routine. Jerry Jones

2332
01:58:27,480 --> 01:58:30,160
Speaker 2: scoffed that his injury, said, helly, we hurt six six

2333
01:58:30,360 --> 01:58:34,320
Speaker 2: games last year. There's just a lot of costic rhetoric

2334
01:58:34,520 --> 01:58:37,360
Speaker 2: going back and forth. So it doesn't feel good. And

2335
01:58:38,000 --> 01:58:40,480
Speaker 2: so my you know, my statements that I've made it

2336
01:58:40,520 --> 01:58:42,400
Speaker 2: earlier shows Oh what the hell they're gonna get this

2337
01:58:42,560 --> 01:58:45,640
Speaker 2: worked out? Man? Look look at look at Jerry's history.

2338
01:58:45,960 --> 01:58:48,400
Speaker 2: How many times he's done this. Look look at what's

2339
01:58:48,440 --> 01:58:51,400
Speaker 2: happened over the years. Every time you turn around. This

2340
01:58:51,600 --> 01:58:54,760
Speaker 2: is just the old Jerry Jones playbook. Right. Em ITTT.

2341
01:58:54,800 --> 01:58:56,920
Speaker 2: Smith held out for the first two games in nineteen

2342
01:58:57,000 --> 01:58:59,920
Speaker 2: ninety three, and the Cowboys started out zero to two.

2343
01:59:00,000 --> 01:59:02,040
Speaker 2: Who they signed him? They end up winning a Super Bowl?

2344
01:59:02,120 --> 01:59:04,960
Speaker 2: Go back to back? All right, July at twenty nineteen,

2345
01:59:05,000 --> 01:59:09,320
Speaker 2: which is not that long ago, Jones said to Ezekiel Elliott,

2346
01:59:09,360 --> 01:59:11,040
Speaker 2: we don't need to have a rushing champion to win

2347
01:59:11,120 --> 01:59:15,080
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl. So Ezekiel Elliott held out. Then Jerry

2348
01:59:15,160 --> 01:59:18,320
Speaker 2: proceeded to give Ezekiel Elliott the largest running back contract

2349
01:59:18,360 --> 01:59:20,480
Speaker 2: in league history, which ended up in a bunch of

2350
01:59:20,560 --> 01:59:23,360
Speaker 2: dead cat money. And then in Augusta, twenty twenty three,

2351
01:59:23,600 --> 01:59:25,760
Speaker 2: same thing with Zach Martin, who was an All Pro guard.

2352
01:59:26,280 --> 01:59:29,280
Speaker 2: He got paid Augusta, twenty twenty four. I don't have

2353
01:59:29,320 --> 01:59:31,800
Speaker 2: any hearnancy to get done. Then he proceeded to pay

2354
01:59:31,920 --> 01:59:35,920
Speaker 2: c Ede Lamb. Then he proceeded to pay Dak Prescott.

2355
01:59:36,400 --> 01:59:38,520
Speaker 2: So that's why I said, ah, this will work out.

2356
01:59:39,000 --> 01:59:41,960
Speaker 2: But in the last week, we're hearing things that lead

2357
01:59:42,000 --> 01:59:44,600
Speaker 2: me to believe it's a little uglier. Coming up, We've

2358
01:59:44,640 --> 01:59:47,640
Speaker 2: got an FC East preview, an NFC East preview, and

2359
01:59:47,720 --> 01:59:49,880
Speaker 2: another player in the same boat. Keep it locked, Bernie

2360
01:59:49,880 --> 01:59:51,280
Speaker 2: Fraddles Show, Fox Sports Radio.

2361
01:59:52,800 --> 01:59:55,480
Speaker 1: Don't listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

2362
01:59:56,000 --> 01:59:58,760
Speaker 2: That's right, you heard the man. Bernie Fraddles Show keeps

2363
01:59:58,880 --> 02:00:02,320
Speaker 2: rolling right along. My name is Bernie Faddlewick County Line

2364
02:00:02,320 --> 02:00:06,320
Speaker 2: from the Fox Sports Radio compound here in Las Vegas.

2365
02:00:07,480 --> 02:00:12,800
Speaker 2: Take up to three am Pacific, six am Eastern. Plenty

2366
02:00:12,840 --> 02:00:16,680
Speaker 2: of business to get to, including and before I get

2367
02:00:16,720 --> 02:00:19,400
Speaker 2: to the AFC East preview, then we'll do the NFC

2368
02:00:19,480 --> 02:00:22,080
Speaker 2: East preview. I got to touch on this as well

2369
02:00:22,200 --> 02:00:26,640
Speaker 2: because it's semi relatable with the Jerry Jones Michael Parsons debacle.

2370
02:00:28,360 --> 02:00:31,200
Speaker 2: Take the case of the Washington Commandos. I hate that name,

2371
02:00:31,240 --> 02:00:33,720
Speaker 2: by the way, Commander is stupid. It's but they're a

2372
02:00:33,760 --> 02:00:36,280
Speaker 2: good team. They're a good team. They got a lot

2373
02:00:36,320 --> 02:00:40,480
Speaker 2: of money. There's only four teams that have more projected

2374
02:00:40,600 --> 02:00:45,000
Speaker 2: cap space for twenty twenty six, when Washington should have

2375
02:00:45,200 --> 02:00:49,480
Speaker 2: about sixty three million dollars available, and in twenty twenty

2376
02:00:49,560 --> 02:00:53,360
Speaker 2: seven their cap room will jump all the way to

2377
02:00:53,680 --> 02:00:57,480
Speaker 2: one hundred and ninety million dollars, second most in the NFL.

2378
02:00:58,640 --> 02:01:01,200
Speaker 2: And they got a terrific fi on quarterback and he's

2379
02:01:01,240 --> 02:01:05,320
Speaker 2: not even eligible for extension until twenty twenty seven. It's

2380
02:01:05,400 --> 02:01:07,840
Speaker 2: good to be a commander. I still hate the name.

2381
02:01:08,040 --> 02:01:09,120
Speaker 2: Still good to be a commander.

2382
02:01:10,040 --> 02:01:10,800
Speaker 18: So why.

2383
02:01:12,160 --> 02:01:17,560
Speaker 2: Why does Washington, at least so far, refuse to pay

2384
02:01:17,640 --> 02:01:24,040
Speaker 2: Terry McLaurin. This, dude is the goods. Sixteen touchdowns last

2385
02:01:24,080 --> 02:01:28,560
Speaker 2: season was only one behind the league leader at Jamar Chase.

2386
02:01:29,800 --> 02:01:33,080
Speaker 2: And there's the final year Terry McLaurin checked us out.

2387
02:01:34,080 --> 02:01:36,920
Speaker 2: And there's the final year of his contract with only

2388
02:01:37,000 --> 02:01:39,400
Speaker 2: two point eight million of his twenty five million dollars

2389
02:01:39,480 --> 02:01:44,120
Speaker 2: salary guaranteed. What are they waiting for? You'd think they'd

2390
02:01:44,200 --> 02:01:47,360
Speaker 2: want to get him extended coming off the fabulous season

2391
02:01:47,400 --> 02:01:51,360
Speaker 2: they had last year, trying to build upon it. And

2392
02:01:51,560 --> 02:01:56,000
Speaker 2: not only has Terry McLaurin been a star on the field,

2393
02:01:56,680 --> 02:01:59,560
Speaker 2: he's a pillar in the community. Hasn't missed a game

2394
02:02:00,080 --> 02:02:06,320
Speaker 2: five years. And every time Terry McLaurin lines up, he's

2395
02:02:06,720 --> 02:02:12,000
Speaker 2: covered by the number one corner every time. He's never

2396
02:02:12,080 --> 02:02:15,120
Speaker 2: had a teammate top seven hundred yards receiving, yet he's

2397
02:02:15,200 --> 02:02:19,120
Speaker 2: recorded five straight seasons of one thousand plus yards. How

2398
02:02:19,200 --> 02:02:23,440
Speaker 2: do you not want Terry McLaurin around. This could be

2399
02:02:23,520 --> 02:02:26,000
Speaker 2: the culprit and if this is the culporate, shame on

2400
02:02:26,160 --> 02:02:31,120
Speaker 2: the Commandos. In September, Terry McLaurin turns thirty, and he

2401
02:02:31,240 --> 02:02:35,000
Speaker 2: plays in a league that tends to put receivers on

2402
02:02:35,080 --> 02:02:38,560
Speaker 2: the shelf after you know when they turn thirty. As

2403
02:02:38,600 --> 02:02:41,200
Speaker 2: a matter of fact, of the sixteen highest paid receivers

2404
02:02:41,560 --> 02:02:44,920
Speaker 2: in the National Football League, only Tyreek Hill will be

2405
02:02:44,960 --> 02:02:50,360
Speaker 2: in his thirties in twenty twenty five now, and he'll

2406
02:02:50,400 --> 02:02:54,160
Speaker 2: make He's schedule to make thirty million this year. Who

2407
02:02:54,160 --> 02:02:59,520
Speaker 2: would you rather have Terry McLaurin or Tyreek Hill. I'll

2408
02:02:59,560 --> 02:03:01,520
Speaker 2: give you all the time you want, No, you don't

2409
02:03:01,920 --> 02:03:04,280
Speaker 2: you get it's Terry mclauren or your first line from

2410
02:03:04,280 --> 02:03:08,600
Speaker 2: front of the Bodoby McLaurin, Look, Jamar Chase, it's Jamar

2411
02:03:08,720 --> 02:03:10,960
Speaker 2: Chase and everybody else. But you can't tell me. You

2412
02:03:11,040 --> 02:03:14,720
Speaker 2: can't mention Terry McLaren in the same conversation as Justin Jefferson, C.

2413
02:03:14,880 --> 02:03:18,240
Speaker 2: D Lamb, DK Metcalf, Garrett Wilson, A J. Brown, Right

2414
02:03:18,280 --> 02:03:20,600
Speaker 2: it down the line, right, even Brandon Ayuko. I talked

2415
02:03:20,600 --> 02:03:25,480
Speaker 2: about a minute ago he got his thirty million. One

2416
02:03:25,520 --> 02:03:27,440
Speaker 2: of the things that also may be plaguing. I talked

2417
02:03:27,440 --> 02:03:35,920
Speaker 2: about the real estate comparison comp Courtland Sutton. Okay, be nice.

2418
02:03:35,920 --> 02:03:41,720
Speaker 2: If I could speak English Courtland Sutton, he might have

2419
02:03:41,960 --> 02:03:46,200
Speaker 2: hurt Terry McLaurin without realizing it. See, Terry McLaurin was

2420
02:03:46,280 --> 02:03:49,800
Speaker 2: drafted the same year as DK Metcalf. He's only twenty

2421
02:03:49,840 --> 02:03:52,400
Speaker 2: seven years old. He recently received a deal in the

2422
02:03:52,520 --> 02:03:55,480
Speaker 2: thirty three million dollars per year range, and that should

2423
02:03:55,520 --> 02:03:58,600
Speaker 2: have been a comp for McLaren at least until Courtland Sutton,

2424
02:03:58,960 --> 02:04:02,160
Speaker 2: who also turns thirty in a month or two, just

2425
02:04:02,240 --> 02:04:04,800
Speaker 2: signed a four year contract in Denver at an average

2426
02:04:04,920 --> 02:04:09,040
Speaker 2: annual salary of just twenty three million dollars. That's a

2427
02:04:09,120 --> 02:04:13,240
Speaker 2: ten million dollars gap. I think that's being used against

2428
02:04:14,120 --> 02:04:19,000
Speaker 2: Terry McLaurin, but I don't know. So is it possible

2429
02:04:19,080 --> 02:04:22,760
Speaker 2: McLaurin gets the contract he wants. Here's what's interesting. The

2430
02:04:22,800 --> 02:04:25,480
Speaker 2: commandos have said they want to get a long term

2431
02:04:25,560 --> 02:04:29,440
Speaker 2: deal done. Okay, win, Maybe they don't want to get

2432
02:04:29,480 --> 02:04:33,640
Speaker 2: it done at thirty three million a year. And you know, yes,

2433
02:04:33,800 --> 02:04:37,200
Speaker 2: McLaurin and mccalf were drafted the same year in twenty nineteen, unfortunately,

2434
02:04:37,360 --> 02:04:40,720
Speaker 2: and they have similar production. And metcalf got thirty three million.

2435
02:04:40,960 --> 02:04:46,120
Speaker 2: Metcalf is two years younger. So look, I think if

2436
02:04:46,520 --> 02:04:49,480
Speaker 2: minors standing, McLaurin has also made a trade request. But

2437
02:04:49,560 --> 02:04:53,520
Speaker 2: if he ends up with the deal in Washington before

2438
02:04:53,680 --> 02:04:56,320
Speaker 2: you know, but by the time the season starts, you've

2439
02:04:56,360 --> 02:04:59,920
Speaker 2: got a really tremendous roster to give Jaden Daniels. You've

2440
02:05:00,000 --> 02:05:02,440
Speaker 2: we got more options, I mean, you've got more protection,

2441
02:05:03,280 --> 02:05:09,120
Speaker 2: more offensive options. It just seems nonsensical to me that

2442
02:05:09,240 --> 02:05:12,280
Speaker 2: they would wave goodbye to Terry Lauren for the reasons

2443
02:05:12,320 --> 02:05:14,320
Speaker 2: I just gave, But I don't know what else to say.

2444
02:05:14,520 --> 02:05:16,880
Speaker 2: So well, these are the things we got to watch,

2445
02:05:17,440 --> 02:05:20,040
Speaker 2: all right. We talked about the Buffalo Bills and Hard

2446
02:05:20,120 --> 02:05:25,080
Speaker 2: Knocks during the midnight hour, and and you know, there

2447
02:05:25,160 --> 02:05:27,840
Speaker 2: has never been a team on Hard Knocks that even

2448
02:05:27,920 --> 02:05:31,200
Speaker 2: got to the super Bowl. The closest were the New

2449
02:05:31,280 --> 02:05:33,760
Speaker 2: York Jets of twenty ten, led by Mark Sanchez. They

2450
02:05:33,800 --> 02:05:36,960
Speaker 2: got to the AFC Championship Game, but they didn't make

2451
02:05:36,960 --> 02:05:38,360
Speaker 2: it to the super Bowl. So there's never been an

2452
02:05:38,360 --> 02:05:41,200
Speaker 2: AFC check that. There's never been a Hard Knocks team

2453
02:05:41,240 --> 02:05:44,040
Speaker 2: featured on Hard Knocks that made it to the super Bowl,

2454
02:05:44,120 --> 02:05:46,160
Speaker 2: much less wonted. So is there a Hard Knocks person?

2455
02:05:46,160 --> 02:05:50,640
Speaker 2: No one really believes that. I don't, but it's happened.

2456
02:05:50,960 --> 02:05:53,680
Speaker 2: Maybe there's something to it. But the reality of it

2457
02:05:53,880 --> 02:05:57,800
Speaker 2: is the Buffalo Bills, who are prohibitive favorites to win

2458
02:05:57,880 --> 02:06:02,200
Speaker 2: the AFC East sixty, which means if you just want

2459
02:06:02,240 --> 02:06:04,680
Speaker 2: to win one hundred dollars on the Buffalo Bills to

2460
02:06:04,680 --> 02:06:06,920
Speaker 2: win the FC East, you got to post to sixty.

2461
02:06:08,080 --> 02:06:10,240
Speaker 2: The Patriots or second one hundred dollars are bringing back

2462
02:06:10,280 --> 02:06:12,320
Speaker 2: five hundred, the Dolphins one hundred dollars are bringing back

2463
02:06:12,360 --> 02:06:14,680
Speaker 2: seven hundred, and the Jets one hundred dollars are bringing

2464
02:06:14,760 --> 02:06:17,840
Speaker 2: back sixteen hundred, but you're better. I'll probably lighten that

2465
02:06:17,920 --> 02:06:19,680
Speaker 2: money on fire at least to keep you warm. Yeah,

2466
02:06:19,720 --> 02:06:23,000
Speaker 2: Jets aren't going anywhere. Sorry, sorry, I don't know rooting

2467
02:06:23,040 --> 02:06:26,480
Speaker 2: against him, I don't care. It's just just saying. The

2468
02:06:26,560 --> 02:06:33,760
Speaker 2: Buffalo Bills own the AFC East now. They've even improved

2469
02:06:33,920 --> 02:06:37,839
Speaker 2: their defensive playing key situations right. The Bills are massive

2470
02:06:37,920 --> 02:06:40,520
Speaker 2: favorites to win this division for a good reason. They've

2471
02:06:40,560 --> 02:06:44,480
Speaker 2: got the NFL's MVP and Josh Allen. He's the ultimate

2472
02:06:44,560 --> 02:06:48,400
Speaker 2: wild card in the race for another AFC crown East Crown,

2473
02:06:49,320 --> 02:06:50,800
Speaker 2: and the only thing that could prove to be a

2474
02:06:50,920 --> 02:06:53,920
Speaker 2: hindrance for their chances to win the division is the

2475
02:06:54,000 --> 02:06:57,560
Speaker 2: truth of the matter is, while their defense is solid,

2476
02:06:58,040 --> 02:07:00,240
Speaker 2: they don't make the clutch plays on the defensive set

2477
02:07:00,280 --> 02:07:02,600
Speaker 2: of the ball. Believe it or not, The Bills rank

2478
02:07:02,720 --> 02:07:05,080
Speaker 2: last in the NFL and pressure rate last year twenty

2479
02:07:05,160 --> 02:07:07,960
Speaker 2: percent whenever their opponent had a chance to take the

2480
02:07:08,040 --> 02:07:10,800
Speaker 2: lead in the fourth quarter overtime. Are they playing cautious?

2481
02:07:12,000 --> 02:07:14,600
Speaker 2: The Buffalo Bills also rank twenty ninth in sack rate

2482
02:07:14,760 --> 02:07:17,600
Speaker 2: over that stretch as well. Not only that, Buffalo had

2483
02:07:17,640 --> 02:07:19,760
Speaker 2: an inability to get off the field on third down

2484
02:07:19,840 --> 02:07:24,040
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty four, and that includes the playoffs. This

2485
02:07:24,240 --> 02:07:32,160
Speaker 2: is this is a true stat against Buffalo on third down.

2486
02:07:32,720 --> 02:07:35,640
Speaker 2: Their opponents converted forty four percent of the time, which

2487
02:07:35,760 --> 02:07:38,640
Speaker 2: was the third highest in the league. Now, in the offseason,

2488
02:07:38,680 --> 02:07:41,280
Speaker 2: they did shore things up. They signed Joey Bosa as

2489
02:07:41,320 --> 02:07:44,240
Speaker 2: a free agent to help improve those units with pass

2490
02:07:44,280 --> 02:07:46,520
Speaker 2: rushing and all the things I just mentioned. If he

2491
02:07:46,600 --> 02:07:51,560
Speaker 2: can stay healthy. They drafted a corner Maxwell Harriston. Man.

2492
02:07:51,720 --> 02:07:54,520
Speaker 2: Can that dude run? Oh my god, I think he

2493
02:07:54,640 --> 02:07:57,480
Speaker 2: ran like a four to one nine forty. He's a

2494
02:07:57,720 --> 02:08:01,880
Speaker 2: terrific cornerback out of Kentucky. Should help. They'll also have

2495
02:08:02,040 --> 02:08:04,720
Speaker 2: Matt Malano back after he missed the first chuck of

2496
02:08:04,720 --> 02:08:07,680
Speaker 2: the year last year with a torn biceps injury. He

2497
02:08:07,800 --> 02:08:10,920
Speaker 2: did get two sacks and Buffalo three playoff games and

2498
02:08:11,680 --> 02:08:15,520
Speaker 2: managed to hit the quarterback a lot. But if you know,

2499
02:08:15,600 --> 02:08:17,920
Speaker 2: for Buffalo to go over their win total of eleven

2500
02:08:17,920 --> 02:08:19,680
Speaker 2: and a half, which I think they're a thirteen win team,

2501
02:08:20,240 --> 02:08:23,120
Speaker 2: but they've been there, done that. One of the earlier

2502
02:08:23,200 --> 02:08:25,640
Speaker 2: callers said, it's, you know, the road to the I

2503
02:08:25,760 --> 02:08:27,520
Speaker 2: still believe in the AFC. The road to the super

2504
02:08:27,560 --> 02:08:29,840
Speaker 2: Bowl goes through Kansas City. Forget what happened to the

2505
02:08:29,880 --> 02:08:32,920
Speaker 2: super Bowl. Okay, that's over. Philly beat him, I get it.

2506
02:08:33,040 --> 02:08:35,840
Speaker 2: Beat him like a run and mule. But you're gonna

2507
02:08:35,840 --> 02:08:40,760
Speaker 2: see a focus, pissed off, tough Kansas City team, and

2508
02:08:41,000 --> 02:08:45,040
Speaker 2: you know, throw throw the marbles into a you know,

2509
02:08:45,760 --> 02:08:48,560
Speaker 2: a mixer. You're gonna have Buffalo, You're gonna have Kansas City,

2510
02:08:48,840 --> 02:08:52,160
Speaker 2: probably Baltimore. It's hard to get excited about them though.

2511
02:08:52,200 --> 02:08:55,040
Speaker 2: It's it's like deja bull over again every year, Yogi.

2512
02:08:55,360 --> 02:08:57,360
Speaker 2: But I'm getting off on a tangent. I really like

2513
02:08:57,400 --> 02:09:03,880
Speaker 2: Buffalo to win the AFC East. Can Miami rebounded for

2514
02:09:04,000 --> 02:09:06,600
Speaker 2: them to have any sort of a shot. Remember they

2515
02:09:06,600 --> 02:09:09,000
Speaker 2: were eight to nine last year, missed the playoffs for

2516
02:09:09,040 --> 02:09:12,720
Speaker 2: the first time under Mike McDaniel. But they want to

2517
02:09:12,840 --> 02:09:15,680
Speaker 2: challenge for the division. And that's all going to pinge

2518
02:09:15,720 --> 02:09:18,520
Speaker 2: on one thing to a tag of a Lowe's availability.

2519
02:09:19,440 --> 02:09:22,320
Speaker 2: He only played eleven games last year due to more

2520
02:09:22,400 --> 02:09:26,840
Speaker 2: concussion problems, and there's always a fear of Tua missing

2521
02:09:26,920 --> 02:09:30,280
Speaker 2: time due to these continued head injuries. It's a cloud

2522
02:09:30,320 --> 02:09:33,040
Speaker 2: that looms over the organization. But this is a pivotal

2523
02:09:33,160 --> 02:09:35,640
Speaker 2: year for Miami, and the thing is, you got to

2524
02:09:35,680 --> 02:09:39,360
Speaker 2: be fair with Tua. When Tua is on the field,

2525
02:09:39,960 --> 02:09:42,640
Speaker 2: Miami has one of the more explsive offenses in the league.

2526
02:09:42,920 --> 02:09:46,280
Speaker 2: When to his started games last year, they were six

2527
02:09:46,360 --> 02:09:49,280
Speaker 2: and five and averaged twenty four points a game. When

2528
02:09:49,320 --> 02:09:51,920
Speaker 2: it was anybody else, they were two and four and

2529
02:09:52,000 --> 02:09:54,440
Speaker 2: averaged well less than that, and their offense looked like

2530
02:09:54,480 --> 02:09:56,880
Speaker 2: a drunk crossing an icy street. They were not solid.

2531
02:09:58,200 --> 02:10:01,600
Speaker 2: Now you better get out your rosary. He might have

2532
02:10:01,800 --> 02:10:04,160
Speaker 2: rope burns from here, rosary praying nothing happens to Tua

2533
02:10:04,520 --> 02:10:08,000
Speaker 2: because you got Zach Wilson as your backup and quinn Ewers.

2534
02:10:08,760 --> 02:10:11,920
Speaker 2: Maybe they have some quarterback depth on paper, but they

2535
02:10:12,040 --> 02:10:15,640
Speaker 2: need Tua for them to be competitive. Let's be honest. Now,

2536
02:10:15,760 --> 02:10:18,760
Speaker 2: let's say you do get a full season out of Tua,

2537
02:10:18,800 --> 02:10:21,920
Speaker 2: who's clearly the franchise quarterback, He's still going to have

2538
02:10:22,000 --> 02:10:25,960
Speaker 2: to level up again against the team's top league's top teams,

2539
02:10:26,240 --> 02:10:29,720
Speaker 2: because over the last couple of seasons, the Dolphins with

2540
02:10:29,800 --> 02:10:31,600
Speaker 2: a healthy Tua has been a club that can only

2541
02:10:31,640 --> 02:10:36,160
Speaker 2: beat up on back competition, but then they struggle against

2542
02:10:36,640 --> 02:10:39,120
Speaker 2: when they step up in class against better teams. Right,

2543
02:10:39,640 --> 02:10:44,200
Speaker 2: they're legitimate splits here. These are stats that do not lie. Okay,

2544
02:10:45,600 --> 02:10:48,600
Speaker 2: When Tua starts against opponents that are under five hundred

2545
02:10:48,800 --> 02:10:51,200
Speaker 2: or five hundred or worse, sixteen to two is a

2546
02:10:51,280 --> 02:10:57,080
Speaker 2: starter thirty five touchdowns, nine interceptions. He's played started ten

2547
02:10:57,200 --> 02:10:59,520
Speaker 2: games against above five hundred teams in the last couple

2548
02:10:59,560 --> 02:11:05,080
Speaker 2: of years, one in nine, thirteen touchdowns, twelve interceptions. That

2549
02:11:05,440 --> 02:11:10,360
Speaker 2: is a dichotomy that has to improve dramatically. Number two again,

2550
02:11:11,160 --> 02:11:13,080
Speaker 2: he got a four year, two hundred and twelve million

2551
02:11:13,080 --> 02:11:17,440
Speaker 2: dollar extension last offseason, and you want him to live

2552
02:11:17,560 --> 02:11:18,720
Speaker 2: up to it. He wants to live up to it.

2553
02:11:18,800 --> 02:11:20,400
Speaker 2: But he's gonna have to be healthy and they're gonna

2554
02:11:20,400 --> 02:11:23,440
Speaker 2: have to step up against competition. The Dolphins win total

2555
02:11:23,920 --> 02:11:26,320
Speaker 2: is eight and a half. Do I think they're gonna

2556
02:11:26,320 --> 02:11:28,880
Speaker 2: win nine games? That's an absolute flip of the coin,

2557
02:11:28,920 --> 02:11:31,800
Speaker 2: and I would not bet the over. Now the Jets,

2558
02:11:32,360 --> 02:11:34,840
Speaker 2: I think there'll be a distant third. They gambled with

2559
02:11:35,120 --> 02:11:37,720
Speaker 2: justin fields. It's a roll of the dice. He's on

2560
02:11:37,800 --> 02:11:40,040
Speaker 2: his third team in three years. Here's a reason for that.

2561
02:11:41,280 --> 02:11:46,360
Speaker 2: And there are other quarterbacks in the league, like Sam Darnold,

2562
02:11:47,040 --> 02:11:49,120
Speaker 2: who've broken out when they've gotten to their third team

2563
02:11:49,200 --> 02:11:53,640
Speaker 2: or fourth team at Baker Mayfield, even Gino Smith. Okay,

2564
02:11:54,440 --> 02:11:56,280
Speaker 2: but I don't put Justin Fields in the category with

2565
02:11:56,360 --> 02:11:58,000
Speaker 2: any of those guys. I just still think he's a

2566
02:11:58,040 --> 02:12:01,840
Speaker 2: glorified read option only quarterback whose default mechanism is to run.

2567
02:12:02,160 --> 02:12:06,360
Speaker 2: He's a stellar individual, He's a consummate professional. He's a

2568
02:12:06,400 --> 02:12:09,200
Speaker 2: great guy in the clubhouse. He's fourteen to thirty for

2569
02:12:09,280 --> 02:12:11,920
Speaker 2: a reason. I don't want to hear any excuses. And

2570
02:12:12,840 --> 02:12:15,360
Speaker 2: with his style of play, he's prone to injury as well.

2571
02:12:15,880 --> 02:12:18,440
Speaker 2: He's big and he can run fast. I get that. However,

2572
02:12:18,920 --> 02:12:22,560
Speaker 2: linebackers run fast too and have passed his prologue unless

2573
02:12:22,600 --> 02:12:25,640
Speaker 2: he learns to really operate from the pocket, make his reads,

2574
02:12:25,760 --> 02:12:28,040
Speaker 2: get the ball out on time, and be accurate. I

2575
02:12:28,120 --> 02:12:32,960
Speaker 2: don't have great belief in the Jets with Justin Fields.

2576
02:12:33,640 --> 02:12:36,920
Speaker 2: Everybody's telling us in his six starts he showed some promise. Well,

2577
02:12:37,120 --> 02:12:40,680
Speaker 2: Mike Tomlins, this is not his first barbecue. He might

2578
02:12:40,760 --> 02:12:42,600
Speaker 2: have been four and two as a starter, but there

2579
02:12:42,640 --> 02:12:44,480
Speaker 2: were too many games that was at the Raider game.

2580
02:12:44,840 --> 02:12:48,520
Speaker 2: There's wide receivers roaming around and Justin Field doesn't see him.

2581
02:12:48,840 --> 02:12:52,040
Speaker 2: He doesn't I don't think he sees the field, but

2582
02:12:52,400 --> 02:12:54,320
Speaker 2: he has done a little bit of better job of

2583
02:12:54,480 --> 02:12:57,480
Speaker 2: limiting turnovers. We'll see if he can make Tomy throws.

2584
02:12:57,520 --> 02:12:59,120
Speaker 2: We know he'll be dynamic with his legs. But it

2585
02:12:59,120 --> 02:13:01,840
Speaker 2: doesn't matter. The Jets are going to have to be

2586
02:13:01,920 --> 02:13:06,280
Speaker 2: really scrappy on defense, take advantage of opportunities. Their defense

2587
02:13:06,400 --> 02:13:10,840
Speaker 2: was stout last year. Their defense held their opponents to

2588
02:13:10,880 --> 02:13:13,920
Speaker 2: a five yards per play average that's second in the league.

2589
02:13:14,480 --> 02:13:16,520
Speaker 2: But they didn't have an offense to compliment And you

2590
02:13:16,640 --> 02:13:19,840
Speaker 2: know why. Now the Jets' win total is five and

2591
02:13:19,840 --> 02:13:22,640
Speaker 2: a half. I think you'll get an effort out of that.

2592
02:13:22,680 --> 02:13:24,680
Speaker 2: They can win six games, might win seven, but they're

2593
02:13:24,720 --> 02:13:27,760
Speaker 2: not going anywhere now. The New England Patriots have all

2594
02:13:27,840 --> 02:13:31,840
Speaker 2: this buzz surrounding them all right, mainly because they hired

2595
02:13:31,880 --> 02:13:37,800
Speaker 2: Mike Rabel and Drake May appears to be ascending. He

2596
02:13:37,920 --> 02:13:40,760
Speaker 2: appears to be improving, and he had a very promising,

2597
02:13:40,920 --> 02:13:42,840
Speaker 2: very strong rookie season, I thought, and he's supposed to

2598
02:13:42,840 --> 02:13:45,560
Speaker 2: be better going into year two. And Rabel's trying to

2599
02:13:45,640 --> 02:13:48,840
Speaker 2: mold New England into his image and develop May and

2600
02:13:49,040 --> 02:13:51,520
Speaker 2: create this culture that was similar to years ago when

2601
02:13:51,560 --> 02:13:55,440
Speaker 2: they had those great, great, great defenses. Okay, they did

2602
02:13:55,560 --> 02:13:58,760
Speaker 2: sign Carlton Davis. He's an excellent cornerback.

2603
02:14:00,640 --> 02:14:00,800
Speaker 10: You know.

2604
02:14:00,960 --> 02:14:03,720
Speaker 2: He pairs up with Christian goan Zalez, who's entering his

2605
02:14:03,760 --> 02:14:05,200
Speaker 2: third year in the league and he was the second

2606
02:14:05,240 --> 02:14:08,080
Speaker 2: team All Pro last year. They were top among the

2607
02:14:08,480 --> 02:14:11,040
Speaker 2: top five cornerbacks in the league in terms of allowing

2608
02:14:11,440 --> 02:14:17,080
Speaker 2: completion percentage against them. They've got an improved off defensive line.

2609
02:14:17,120 --> 02:14:22,800
Speaker 2: New England does right. They added a guy by the

2610
02:14:22,880 --> 02:14:25,800
Speaker 2: name of Milton Williams who has a Super Bowl ring

2611
02:14:25,880 --> 02:14:28,280
Speaker 2: with the Eagles. He was outstanding with the Eagles. He

2612
02:14:28,320 --> 02:14:31,280
Speaker 2: had the highest pressure rate of any individual player at

2613
02:14:31,280 --> 02:14:33,720
Speaker 2: a quarterbacks So he has a tendency to get into

2614
02:14:33,760 --> 02:14:36,920
Speaker 2: the backfield and they'll pair him up with Christian Barmore.

2615
02:14:37,760 --> 02:14:41,200
Speaker 2: So look, they have a middle linebacker also in Robert Splane,

2616
02:14:41,520 --> 02:14:44,160
Speaker 2: who's a high motor guy. He's the only player in

2617
02:14:44,200 --> 02:14:46,600
Speaker 2: the NFL to record three hunderd tackles, five sacks, and

2618
02:14:46,640 --> 02:14:50,240
Speaker 2: five interceptions in both of the last two seasons. So

2619
02:14:51,240 --> 02:14:52,960
Speaker 2: I think you're going to see a breakout season in

2620
02:14:53,000 --> 02:14:56,440
Speaker 2: New England. They're over under total is seven and a half.

2621
02:14:56,560 --> 02:14:59,560
Speaker 2: That's a bargain. They won't go eight nine, they'll win nine.

2622
02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:03,440
Speaker 2: I'm telling you they could win nine or ten games optimistically.

2623
02:15:04,040 --> 02:15:05,640
Speaker 2: I can't say they'd win eleven. I don't know what

2624
02:15:05,680 --> 02:15:07,480
Speaker 2: they're going to do in their division. We'll see what

2625
02:15:07,520 --> 02:15:11,000
Speaker 2: they do against the Raiders week one. But all of

2626
02:15:11,080 --> 02:15:15,480
Speaker 2: those four teams, okay, no one's on seating Buffalo. They're

2627
02:15:15,520 --> 02:15:18,480
Speaker 2: a twelve thirteen win team. New England's a nine to

2628
02:15:18,480 --> 02:15:22,280
Speaker 2: ten win team, maybe eleven. The Jets and the Dolphins

2629
02:15:23,160 --> 02:15:24,880
Speaker 2: they got work to do, and you know they do.

2630
02:15:25,880 --> 02:15:29,600
Speaker 2: Coming up, we'll talk about the NFC East and the

2631
02:15:29,720 --> 02:15:34,240
Speaker 2: new fangled technology in pro football that they've talked about

2632
02:15:34,280 --> 02:15:37,800
Speaker 2: for a while. Oh yeah, I already hate I hate it.

2633
02:15:37,920 --> 02:15:39,880
Speaker 2: I'll explain why in a minting. By the way, with

2634
02:15:39,960 --> 02:15:44,680
Speaker 2: the iHeart Radio app, you can stream us wherever you

2635
02:15:44,840 --> 02:15:47,520
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2637
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02:15:53,640 --> 02:15:56,040
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2639
02:15:56,240 --> 02:15:58,120
Speaker 2: and be sure to select Fox Sports Radio is one

2640
02:15:58,120 --> 02:16:00,240
Speaker 2: of your presets in the i Art Radio app, so

2641
02:16:00,440 --> 02:16:04,520
Speaker 2: it will always pop up on the top of your screen.

2642
02:16:05,560 --> 02:16:08,400
Speaker 2: Coming up, we dive into the NFC East. I'm Bernie Frattle.

2643
02:16:08,440 --> 02:16:11,120
Speaker 2: We're coming to you live from the Las Vegas Fox

2644
02:16:11,160 --> 02:16:14,320
Speaker 2: Sports Radio Studios. Keep it locked right here. You're listening

2645
02:16:14,760 --> 02:16:16,720
Speaker 2: to the Bernie Frattle Show on Fox Sports Radio.

2646
02:16:17,200 --> 02:16:20,080
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2647
02:16:20,120 --> 02:16:23,480
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2648
02:16:23,600 --> 02:16:27,680
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2649
02:16:27,840 --> 02:16:28,440
Speaker 3: listen live.

2650
02:16:29,640 --> 02:16:32,800
Speaker 2: We're back on the Bernie Frattle Show Fox Sports Radio.

2651
02:16:32,879 --> 02:16:35,119
Speaker 2: Come to live from the Fox Sports Radio studios here

2652
02:16:35,280 --> 02:16:41,800
Speaker 2: in Las Vegas. Before I get to the NFC East

2653
02:16:42,240 --> 02:16:48,040
Speaker 2: preview and some things you might not know about, let

2654
02:16:48,080 --> 02:16:49,920
Speaker 2: me take a minute to Tay Seth. I already hate.

2655
02:16:50,040 --> 02:16:55,280
Speaker 2: Now you may have heard of hawkeye technology. Okay, I

2656
02:16:55,360 --> 02:17:00,720
Speaker 2: don't hate hawkeye technology because it's used in in tennis

2657
02:17:00,800 --> 02:17:09,320
Speaker 2: and I believe other facets of life which really exhibit

2658
02:17:09,680 --> 02:17:14,480
Speaker 2: what sophisticated technology it is. Okay, but the NFL is

2659
02:17:14,680 --> 02:17:19,280
Speaker 2: implementing Hawkeye technology. Is this primary method for measuring first

2660
02:17:19,360 --> 02:17:23,560
Speaker 2: downs beginning this season that's going to replace the traditional

2661
02:17:24,240 --> 02:17:28,000
Speaker 2: chain measurement. Now, if you've never heard of Hawkeye technology,

2662
02:17:28,120 --> 02:17:31,680
Speaker 2: it's a virtual system that uses six AK cameras in

2663
02:17:31,760 --> 02:17:34,120
Speaker 2: every stadium, and what it does is is going to

2664
02:17:34,240 --> 02:17:37,320
Speaker 2: optically track the ball's position. And they tell us it's

2665
02:17:37,360 --> 02:17:40,920
Speaker 2: going to improve efficiency and accuracy. Now you're going to

2666
02:17:40,959 --> 02:17:43,879
Speaker 2: have the chain gang on the field as a secondary capacity,

2667
02:17:44,920 --> 02:17:49,440
Speaker 2: but the Hawkeye system is intended to streamline the process. Okay,

2668
02:17:49,879 --> 02:17:51,720
Speaker 2: what they're trying to do is get rid of manual

2669
02:17:51,800 --> 02:17:56,960
Speaker 2: chain measurements. Yeah so far. If you're watching any of

2670
02:17:57,000 --> 02:18:02,400
Speaker 2: the preseason games, they take forever yet another thing to

2671
02:18:02,520 --> 02:18:06,000
Speaker 2: delay and slow down the damn game. You can get up,

2672
02:18:06,040 --> 02:18:07,920
Speaker 2: go have a hot dog, a beer or two, come

2673
02:18:08,000 --> 02:18:10,400
Speaker 2: back to your seat. They're still deciding whether it was

2674
02:18:10,440 --> 02:18:13,039
Speaker 2: six inches short. What it does give you this specific distance.

2675
02:18:13,520 --> 02:18:16,280
Speaker 2: There was a game I was watching on Saturday and

2676
02:18:16,360 --> 02:18:18,960
Speaker 2: the announcers were having a comedy routine over it, and

2677
02:18:19,040 --> 02:18:20,640
Speaker 2: they're saying, you know what, the chain game would have

2678
02:18:20,640 --> 02:18:22,760
Speaker 2: had this thing done five minutes ago. Oh, it looks

2679
02:18:22,800 --> 02:18:24,680
Speaker 2: like we have a decision. Oh oh no, we don't

2680
02:18:24,720 --> 02:18:27,320
Speaker 2: wait doing or not? What do they do? They're like,

2681
02:18:27,440 --> 02:18:30,080
Speaker 2: what are we doing here? These delay of games? It's

2682
02:18:30,200 --> 02:18:32,920
Speaker 2: enough replay all the things that stop a football game.

2683
02:18:33,600 --> 02:18:36,560
Speaker 2: This is one more So, Look, I'm not saying you

2684
02:18:36,600 --> 02:18:38,720
Speaker 2: throw out the baby with the bathwater, but fix this

2685
02:18:38,840 --> 02:18:41,080
Speaker 2: damn thing so it only takes a few seconds because

2686
02:18:41,120 --> 02:18:43,200
Speaker 2: the chain game can run out there. Hell once at

2687
02:18:43,240 --> 02:18:45,640
Speaker 2: one time. They even use the three by five card.

2688
02:18:46,160 --> 02:18:49,960
Speaker 2: People know that story. So look it's Hawkeye in and

2689
02:18:50,040 --> 02:18:54,840
Speaker 2: of itself is a terrific Sony innovation. And they're told

2690
02:18:54,920 --> 02:18:59,959
Speaker 2: us the benefit of this would would make these decision

2691
02:19:00,200 --> 02:19:03,520
Speaker 2: is faster than traditional chain measurement, and that will reduce

2692
02:19:03,560 --> 02:19:05,640
Speaker 2: the time it takes to determine whether your team got

2693
02:19:05,720 --> 02:19:08,320
Speaker 2: a first down or not. Right, and it's also supposed

2694
02:19:08,320 --> 02:19:12,760
Speaker 2: to be a more accurate, precise measurement. Right, human error. Well,

2695
02:19:12,959 --> 02:19:15,160
Speaker 2: they're still going to place the ball. I don't think

2696
02:19:15,160 --> 02:19:17,040
Speaker 2: they're using the system to show them place the ball.

2697
02:19:18,000 --> 02:19:21,879
Speaker 2: But look, NFL is gaga. All the sports are all

2698
02:19:21,959 --> 02:19:26,680
Speaker 2: these technical advancements and modernization like robots and Major League Baseball.

2699
02:19:26,680 --> 02:19:29,720
Speaker 2: You get right down down the line, please make it faster.

2700
02:19:29,959 --> 02:19:33,160
Speaker 2: I guarantee you they're setting up for they're setting this

2701
02:19:33,360 --> 02:19:37,040
Speaker 2: up to be another speed bump in you know, in

2702
02:19:37,160 --> 02:19:39,200
Speaker 2: your football Sunday and that and that's the last thing

2703
02:19:39,240 --> 02:19:41,480
Speaker 2: you want. So that's all I'm saying from now, I

2704
02:19:41,560 --> 02:19:44,000
Speaker 2: got nothing in tawkeye technology, but if you're going to

2705
02:19:44,080 --> 02:19:46,080
Speaker 2: use it in a football game, you know, let's go

2706
02:19:46,160 --> 02:19:52,280
Speaker 2: pick up the pace. Come on, all right? The NFC East, now,

2707
02:19:52,360 --> 02:19:55,600
Speaker 2: the AFC East is a one team race, Okay, win.

2708
02:19:55,720 --> 02:19:59,560
Speaker 2: They ain't catching Buffalo and the Jets and and you

2709
02:19:59,600 --> 02:20:02,000
Speaker 2: already how I feel about the Jets and Dolphins. I

2710
02:20:02,240 --> 02:20:03,960
Speaker 2: like the Dolphins, and if two can stay healthy, but

2711
02:20:03,959 --> 02:20:06,680
Speaker 2: it's always a big if. The NFC East is very

2712
02:20:06,760 --> 02:20:08,320
Speaker 2: much looking like it's going to be a two team

2713
02:20:08,400 --> 02:20:12,640
Speaker 2: race this year. Philadelphia. I talked to my guest earlier,

2714
02:20:12,680 --> 02:20:16,760
Speaker 2: A mal Shaw, my NFL insider, there's a shot Philadelphia

2715
02:20:16,760 --> 02:20:19,720
Speaker 2: could repeat hadn't been done in a long time. Okay,

2716
02:20:20,320 --> 02:20:23,720
Speaker 2: can Saquon Barkley do that again? Four hundred and thirty

2717
02:20:23,800 --> 02:20:27,160
Speaker 2: six carries last year in twenty games. The last time

2718
02:20:27,640 --> 02:20:30,400
Speaker 2: that was that heavy of a load it was DeMarco

2719
02:20:30,520 --> 02:20:33,760
Speaker 2: Murray and back in twenty fourteen. And to do that,

2720
02:20:34,920 --> 02:20:37,880
Speaker 2: you know, it's risky. The human body can only take

2721
02:20:37,920 --> 02:20:41,480
Speaker 2: so many hits. Philly doesn't have to be better than

2722
02:20:41,520 --> 02:20:46,600
Speaker 2: they were last year. Most teams do right. They maintained

2723
02:20:46,840 --> 02:20:50,520
Speaker 2: most continuity, but they did lose their offensive coordinator Kellen

2724
02:20:50,600 --> 02:20:54,000
Speaker 2: Moore and eight key members of their defense, and no

2725
02:20:54,080 --> 02:20:58,160
Speaker 2: teams saw their schedule get more difficult. Remember, the NFC

2726
02:20:58,320 --> 02:21:01,600
Speaker 2: East this year has to play the NFC North and

2727
02:21:01,640 --> 02:21:05,440
Speaker 2: the AFC West. Think about it. In addition to your division,

2728
02:21:05,840 --> 02:21:08,360
Speaker 2: you got Detroit, Green Bay, No Chicago, not so much

2729
02:21:08,720 --> 02:21:12,240
Speaker 2: in Minnesota, and the AFC West you got Denver, Kansas City,

2730
02:21:13,640 --> 02:21:16,840
Speaker 2: the Chargers, Raiders maybe not so much. But last year

2731
02:21:16,879 --> 02:21:20,280
Speaker 2: you had the NFC South and AFCFC North. So it's

2732
02:21:20,360 --> 02:21:25,440
Speaker 2: gonna be no rest for the wicked in the NFC East. Okay, Now,

2733
02:21:25,480 --> 02:21:28,080
Speaker 2: the last time the Eagles lost their coordinators a couple

2734
02:21:28,080 --> 02:21:31,400
Speaker 2: of years ago, they dropped from like a what a

2735
02:21:31,440 --> 02:21:33,360
Speaker 2: fifteen win team do an eleven win teams? Something like that.

2736
02:21:33,600 --> 02:21:35,959
Speaker 2: They've made the playoffs that they got knocked out. Now

2737
02:21:38,000 --> 02:21:39,960
Speaker 2: they've got some holes to fill. But bet against the

2738
02:21:40,040 --> 02:21:43,160
Speaker 2: Eagles at your own risk. I think they win this division.

2739
02:21:43,840 --> 02:21:46,320
Speaker 2: I do well. If they win it, who's the two

2740
02:21:46,400 --> 02:21:51,920
Speaker 2: team race against. Well, clearly it's the Washington Commanders. Okay,

2741
02:21:53,040 --> 02:22:00,160
Speaker 2: will Washington be better in twenty twenty five? Actually I

2742
02:22:00,320 --> 02:22:05,280
Speaker 2: think they will. I think they will. Jade Daniels was

2743
02:22:05,360 --> 02:22:12,360
Speaker 2: the big story last year. Everybody knows that. But one

2744
02:22:12,360 --> 02:22:15,400
Speaker 2: of the reasons Jaden Daniels flourished, and this takes nothing

2745
02:22:15,440 --> 02:22:21,439
Speaker 2: away from Jade Daniels, is Washington's offensive line was reminiscent

2746
02:22:21,480 --> 02:22:25,520
Speaker 2: of the Hogs back in nineteen eighty eight. You got

2747
02:22:25,600 --> 02:22:28,000
Speaker 2: a block and tackle. That's why they won twelve games.

2748
02:22:29,240 --> 02:22:33,480
Speaker 2: Their offensive line allowed Jaden Daniels to do what he did,

2749
02:22:34,360 --> 02:22:38,640
Speaker 2: and he did, and what do the Commanders do. They

2750
02:22:38,760 --> 02:22:44,800
Speaker 2: reinforced their offensive line with Jeremy Tunsel and a very

2751
02:22:44,840 --> 02:22:47,040
Speaker 2: good first round pick and a right tackle by the

2752
02:22:47,120 --> 02:22:52,240
Speaker 2: name of Josh Connery. Still, they had this imposing defense

2753
02:22:52,400 --> 02:22:56,480
Speaker 2: last year and it might be an unimposing defense this year.

2754
02:22:56,520 --> 02:23:01,720
Speaker 2: That's going to create a bit of a more difficult path,

2755
02:23:01,800 --> 02:23:08,240
Speaker 2: I think, okay, And as I just mentioned, the scheduled

2756
02:23:08,280 --> 02:23:13,560
Speaker 2: difficulty is not something that you can readily dismiss. So

2757
02:23:14,400 --> 02:23:18,880
Speaker 2: the key question that Washington will face this year, and

2758
02:23:19,320 --> 02:23:21,040
Speaker 2: as I said, the key question for the Eagles is

2759
02:23:21,600 --> 02:23:25,120
Speaker 2: can they hitch their wagon? Do Saquon Barkley? Because they

2760
02:23:25,200 --> 02:23:28,960
Speaker 2: did last year, There's no question. The key question is

2761
02:23:29,080 --> 02:23:36,160
Speaker 2: can Washington's defense complay complimentary football with their offense. They

2762
02:23:37,480 --> 02:23:42,080
Speaker 2: had a priority to add size on the defense. The

2763
02:23:42,320 --> 02:23:48,000
Speaker 2: defense needed it. The Commander's run defense allowed two yards

2764
02:23:48,040 --> 02:23:50,360
Speaker 2: before contact, which is a fourth most of the league,

2765
02:23:50,760 --> 02:23:53,880
Speaker 2: and four point eight yards per carry tied for the

2766
02:23:54,000 --> 02:23:58,360
Speaker 2: third most. That has to improve. That's not a good statistic.

2767
02:23:58,840 --> 02:24:01,320
Speaker 2: If you're allowing four point eight yards per carry. All

2768
02:24:01,360 --> 02:24:03,720
Speaker 2: that does is open up passing lanes that had offs.

2769
02:24:03,760 --> 02:24:06,520
Speaker 2: Teams to move the chains e clock, you get the

2770
02:24:06,600 --> 02:24:10,760
Speaker 2: d you get the drill. All right, they do have

2771
02:24:10,879 --> 02:24:14,360
Speaker 2: a breakout player though, I believe all right, Brian Robinson

2772
02:24:14,440 --> 02:24:19,760
Speaker 2: Junior Washington does his contract year. He stood out in

2773
02:24:19,840 --> 02:24:25,480
Speaker 2: mini camp and he's healthy. He's focused. Dan Quinn, who

2774
02:24:25,600 --> 02:24:27,360
Speaker 2: has been raving about him, says, you can feel his

2775
02:24:27,440 --> 02:24:30,320
Speaker 2: sense of urgency, you can feel his intensity. He had

2776
02:24:30,320 --> 02:24:35,080
Speaker 2: a great offseason. If Brian Robinson Junior stays healthy, he'll

2777
02:24:35,120 --> 02:24:39,400
Speaker 2: be Washington's version of Saquon Barkley. Maybe not like that, right,

2778
02:24:40,160 --> 02:24:42,959
Speaker 2: but through week nine he averaged four point six yards

2779
02:24:43,000 --> 02:24:46,039
Speaker 2: per carry. That's pretty good. They also got a stud

2780
02:24:46,160 --> 02:24:52,560
Speaker 2: rookie named Jcory Krofsky, so I expect now they're not

2781
02:24:52,600 --> 02:24:54,560
Speaker 2: going to sneak up on anybody like they did last

2782
02:24:54,640 --> 02:24:57,160
Speaker 2: year the Commanders. That was just amazing what they did,

2783
02:24:59,480 --> 02:25:02,480
Speaker 2: and to be fair to Detroit, Detroit was a complete

2784
02:25:02,560 --> 02:25:05,000
Speaker 2: match unit with that defense by the time Washington got there.

2785
02:25:06,040 --> 02:25:12,400
Speaker 2: So look, Washington and the Eagles will be the two

2786
02:25:12,440 --> 02:25:14,640
Speaker 2: teams battling it out in that division, which leads us

2787
02:25:14,720 --> 02:25:18,600
Speaker 2: to the Cowboys, who've been you know, a topping a

2788
02:25:18,640 --> 02:25:24,240
Speaker 2: whipping boy topic fairly well consistently on the show tonight.

2789
02:25:26,280 --> 02:25:30,560
Speaker 2: This is the key question that the Cowboys face. They've

2790
02:25:30,640 --> 02:25:33,960
Speaker 2: got a rookie head coach in Brian Schottheimer, who I

2791
02:25:34,040 --> 02:25:36,640
Speaker 2: don't think the guy's a dummy. I don't. He's been

2792
02:25:36,680 --> 02:25:39,400
Speaker 2: around the block, but he's brand new. He's got to

2793
02:25:39,440 --> 02:25:41,440
Speaker 2: learn on the job and the white hot intensity of

2794
02:25:41,560 --> 02:25:44,400
Speaker 2: Dallas with you know, one hundred million sons staring down

2795
02:25:44,440 --> 02:25:47,280
Speaker 2: at you, and it's just it's a circus act and

2796
02:25:47,360 --> 02:25:51,680
Speaker 2: a soap opera to real combined into one. And I,

2797
02:25:52,640 --> 02:25:57,800
Speaker 2: without being disrespectful, everybody felt that the shot and Schottenheimer

2798
02:25:57,959 --> 02:26:03,400
Speaker 2: higher was underwhelming, an uninspiring, okay, and that kind of

2799
02:26:03,440 --> 02:26:06,600
Speaker 2: speaks to the whole Dallas team and the whole Dallas franchise. Recently,

2800
02:26:07,040 --> 02:26:10,840
Speaker 2: he replaces Mike McCarthy, who could win a playoff game

2801
02:26:11,040 --> 02:26:14,440
Speaker 2: and was popular in a player's coach and you know,

2802
02:26:14,640 --> 02:26:16,600
Speaker 2: had a couple of twelve win seasons, but you saw

2803
02:26:16,640 --> 02:26:19,640
Speaker 2: how those playoffs ended again like a drunk a crossing

2804
02:26:19,640 --> 02:26:22,920
Speaker 2: an icy street. Not good. It's been five years, by

2805
02:26:22,959 --> 02:26:26,720
Speaker 2: the way, since Brian Schottenheimer was a full time play caller.

2806
02:26:26,879 --> 02:26:30,920
Speaker 2: He's going to rely heavily on a healthy Dak Prescott

2807
02:26:31,160 --> 02:26:34,720
Speaker 2: stepping up, way up, Seedee Lamb doing what he can do.

2808
02:26:35,600 --> 02:26:38,480
Speaker 2: You also got a deep threat in George Pickens and

2809
02:26:38,600 --> 02:26:41,480
Speaker 2: a kid Jake Ferguson who's out to make a name

2810
02:26:41,560 --> 02:26:47,320
Speaker 2: for himself. Okay, now, the position to watch for Dallas

2811
02:26:47,520 --> 02:26:50,320
Speaker 2: is running back because you know Tony door setting and

2812
02:26:50,400 --> 02:26:53,440
Speaker 2: walking through that door. Everybody said all they had to

2813
02:26:53,480 --> 02:26:56,920
Speaker 2: do last year was sign you Derrick Henry or Sakuon

2814
02:26:56,959 --> 02:26:59,640
Speaker 2: Barkley or Josh Jacobs. They didn't, and I don't know

2815
02:26:59,720 --> 02:27:01,560
Speaker 2: that that have made a difference. I really I don't

2816
02:27:01,680 --> 02:27:04,480
Speaker 2: go to that would have made a difference. Instead, you

2817
02:27:04,640 --> 02:27:09,760
Speaker 2: had the tandem of ric o'dowdell and Ezekiel Elliott. Oops. Okay,

2818
02:27:09,959 --> 02:27:13,600
Speaker 2: this year they've got Javonte Williams, who's a shell of himself,

2819
02:27:13,720 --> 02:27:17,279
Speaker 2: Miles Sanders and a fifth round pick name Jaden Blue,

2820
02:27:18,480 --> 02:27:20,880
Speaker 2: probably better off with Vida Blue. So it's going to

2821
02:27:20,920 --> 02:27:24,280
Speaker 2: be running back by committee, a quarterback who's never stepped

2822
02:27:24,320 --> 02:27:27,280
Speaker 2: up when it mattered most, a rookie head coach. So

2823
02:27:27,360 --> 02:27:29,560
Speaker 2: can the Cowboys be better than they were in twenty

2824
02:27:29,640 --> 02:27:35,760
Speaker 2: twenty four? Eh, I'll give it a definite. Maybe because

2825
02:27:35,800 --> 02:27:40,119
Speaker 2: they sucked last year. They allegedly having a healthier roster,

2826
02:27:41,680 --> 02:27:45,960
Speaker 2: allegedly have an improved offensive line, and you've got George

2827
02:27:46,640 --> 02:27:50,600
Speaker 2: Pickens who's a deep threat. Those are positives. Could their

2828
02:27:50,640 --> 02:27:53,959
Speaker 2: offense go to the next level? And by the way,

2829
02:27:54,440 --> 02:27:56,280
Speaker 2: I didn't even tell you who their defensive coordinator is,

2830
02:27:56,320 --> 02:28:00,200
Speaker 2: Matt Eberflus, And it's hard to unsee what you saw

2831
02:28:00,240 --> 02:28:03,560
Speaker 2: in Chicago with Matt Eberflus. But hope Spring's eternal. Okay,

2832
02:28:04,320 --> 02:28:07,560
Speaker 2: maybe that defense can return to the fact that it

2833
02:28:07,720 --> 02:28:10,320
Speaker 2: was a strength of the team two years ago, or

2834
02:28:10,440 --> 02:28:14,480
Speaker 2: at least improved. Dallas allowed one hundred and thirty seven

2835
02:28:14,560 --> 02:28:16,920
Speaker 2: yards on the ground per game last year, just a

2836
02:28:17,000 --> 02:28:22,119
Speaker 2: disaster that ranked twenty ninth. And the Stoven's signed Michael

2837
02:28:22,160 --> 02:28:27,520
Speaker 2: Parsons yet, which I talked about before, So it's presumed

2838
02:28:27,800 --> 02:28:31,760
Speaker 2: that maybe gets worked out. But that's if everything goes right,

2839
02:28:32,400 --> 02:28:36,240
Speaker 2: Schottenheim or Doctors still don't have a running game. I

2840
02:28:36,800 --> 02:28:42,680
Speaker 2: just it's very hard to feel even remotely optimistic about Dallas.

2841
02:28:43,080 --> 02:28:44,600
Speaker 2: You got to play the you know, you got to

2842
02:28:44,640 --> 02:28:48,480
Speaker 2: play the Commandos twice, you got to play the Eagles twice,

2843
02:28:48,520 --> 02:28:52,600
Speaker 2: and as I said earlier, you got the AFC West.

2844
02:28:52,840 --> 02:28:55,800
Speaker 2: So the Cowboys are gonna have to play the Chargers, Chiefs, Raiders.

2845
02:28:56,520 --> 02:28:56,600
Speaker 6: And.

2846
02:28:59,160 --> 02:29:01,800
Speaker 2: Broncos three of the four. Three of those four teams.

2847
02:29:01,840 --> 02:29:04,240
Speaker 2: And the Raiders can be pasky. They do weird things.

2848
02:29:04,240 --> 02:29:06,400
Speaker 2: They went into Baltimore and beat Baltimore and Baltimore last year.

2849
02:29:06,400 --> 02:29:08,520
Speaker 2: The year before, they beat Kansasy and Christmas Day in

2850
02:29:08,600 --> 02:29:11,560
Speaker 2: Kansas City. You can't go to sleep on them. And

2851
02:29:11,720 --> 02:29:13,880
Speaker 2: the Charge and the Cobbys are also gonna have to

2852
02:29:15,480 --> 02:29:22,240
Speaker 2: tee it up against the against the huge AFC North

2853
02:29:22,320 --> 02:29:24,520
Speaker 2: and f C West. So the NFC North, excuse me,

2854
02:29:24,560 --> 02:29:30,039
Speaker 2: so you're gonna have the Lions, Bears, and Vikings and Packers.

2855
02:29:30,600 --> 02:29:33,840
Speaker 2: So those are eight additional tough games, including the two

2856
02:29:33,920 --> 02:29:36,840
Speaker 2: against the Commandos and the two again, that's twelve games

2857
02:29:36,959 --> 02:29:40,200
Speaker 2: right there. I mean, the most optimistic, could they go

2858
02:29:40,280 --> 02:29:41,920
Speaker 2: six and six in those games? I don't even know

2859
02:29:41,920 --> 02:29:48,080
Speaker 2: if they could do that. So in Dallas, you know, again,

2860
02:29:48,120 --> 02:29:49,720
Speaker 2: get your rosary out. You're gonna have a rope perns

2861
02:29:49,720 --> 02:29:52,879
Speaker 2: from your rosary worrying about this team. Finally, the New

2862
02:29:52,959 --> 02:29:55,960
Speaker 2: York Giants. Can they be better than they were in

2863
02:29:56,040 --> 02:29:59,800
Speaker 2: twenty twenty four? Well, yeah that is they're not. Then

2864
02:30:00,840 --> 02:30:02,760
Speaker 2: everybody better get their resumes in order.

2865
02:30:03,000 --> 02:30:04,360
Speaker 1: On paper, the.

2866
02:30:04,400 --> 02:30:09,400
Speaker 2: Team is improved. Their defensive line is talented, their secondary

2867
02:30:09,520 --> 02:30:12,280
Speaker 2: is better. They signed a couple players, Paul Deebo and

2868
02:30:12,360 --> 02:30:15,800
Speaker 2: Javon Holland their quarterback situation cannot possibly need be any

2869
02:30:15,840 --> 02:30:18,119
Speaker 2: worse than it was last year. I like Tommy DeVito

2870
02:30:18,200 --> 02:30:20,760
Speaker 2: just because I like saying the name, maybe because he's Italian.

2871
02:30:20,800 --> 02:30:23,280
Speaker 2: I'm Italian. But Hell will be better off with Danny DeVito.

2872
02:30:23,920 --> 02:30:26,439
Speaker 2: They're not gonna win. You know, he's fining in an emergency,

2873
02:30:26,480 --> 02:30:28,640
Speaker 2: he's fine in a backup. And I know they had

2874
02:30:28,680 --> 02:30:32,200
Speaker 2: to pay Zach to check that DAC sixty million. They

2875
02:30:32,200 --> 02:30:34,520
Speaker 2: don't have to pay sixty million, but they did. They're

2876
02:30:34,560 --> 02:30:36,720
Speaker 2: just definitely afraid of going back to the Quincy Carter

2877
02:30:36,800 --> 02:30:39,240
Speaker 2: Drew Henson era. So are they gonna be better? They

2878
02:30:39,280 --> 02:30:42,200
Speaker 2: can't be worst they're gonna have the league's toughest schedule, though,

2879
02:30:42,280 --> 02:30:45,480
Speaker 2: based on both their opponents winning percentage from last year

2880
02:30:45,720 --> 02:30:48,760
Speaker 2: and projected win totals for twenty twenty five, I think

2881
02:30:48,800 --> 02:30:50,560
Speaker 2: the Cowboys are on their way or check that the

2882
02:30:50,640 --> 02:30:54,199
Speaker 2: Giants are on their way to a six six winning season.

2883
02:30:54,320 --> 02:30:57,120
Speaker 2: I just think they are. I think Jackson Dart is

2884
02:30:57,160 --> 02:31:00,240
Speaker 2: gonna do well. Okay, that's the court, that's the position

2885
02:31:00,280 --> 02:31:06,879
Speaker 2: you gotta watch. Here's your quarterback room. Russell Wilson, Jackson Dart,

2886
02:31:07,680 --> 02:31:13,560
Speaker 2: Jamis Winston, Jamis Winston, and Tommy DeVito. Why couldn't they

2887
02:31:13,600 --> 02:31:15,840
Speaker 2: have had the Giants on hard knocks this year? Some

2888
02:31:16,000 --> 02:31:18,520
Speaker 2: of those conversations would have would have been epic, right,

2889
02:31:20,120 --> 02:31:23,200
Speaker 2: But I understand that Russell Wilson has landed well in

2890
02:31:23,360 --> 02:31:26,480
Speaker 2: New York and his leadership is winning some people over.

2891
02:31:26,920 --> 02:31:29,200
Speaker 2: I'm not a Russell Wilson hater. He's a little goofy,

2892
02:31:29,680 --> 02:31:31,959
Speaker 2: but the dude's been to two Super Bowls, one to one.

2893
02:31:32,000 --> 02:31:36,600
Speaker 2: He's put up a massive, you know, numbers in his career.

2894
02:31:37,080 --> 02:31:38,720
Speaker 2: So you got to give you got to give them

2895
02:31:38,720 --> 02:31:40,640
Speaker 2: their due. But the real problem the Giants are going

2896
02:31:40,720 --> 02:31:43,840
Speaker 2: to have, in addition to not great talent on offense

2897
02:31:43,959 --> 02:31:48,040
Speaker 2: is their schedule. They open up against the Commanders, Cowboys, Chiefs,

2898
02:31:48,080 --> 02:31:52,360
Speaker 2: and Chargers. They maybe they beat the Cowboys. I don't know.

2899
02:31:52,640 --> 02:31:55,039
Speaker 2: Do you think they're beating the Commanders. I know it's

2900
02:31:55,080 --> 02:31:57,000
Speaker 2: a fool's eron to try to do this exercise, but

2901
02:31:57,120 --> 02:31:59,760
Speaker 2: work with me. Okay, there's our good buddy. Arnie Spanier

2902
02:31:59,800 --> 02:32:02,600
Speaker 2: says the shows tonight. I don't think they're beating the Commanders.

2903
02:32:02,600 --> 02:32:03,920
Speaker 2: I don't think they're beating Chiefs. I don't think they

2904
02:32:03,920 --> 02:32:05,600
Speaker 2: beat the Chargers. That means you're either gonna open up

2905
02:32:05,640 --> 02:32:07,440
Speaker 2: one in three or zero to four. And after that

2906
02:32:07,560 --> 02:32:10,240
Speaker 2: you watch how fast the sky falls in Dallas, because

2907
02:32:10,280 --> 02:32:12,280
Speaker 2: it always does. And we don't even know if they're

2908
02:32:12,280 --> 02:32:15,560
Speaker 2: gonna sign Michael Parsons. I check that. What am I

2909
02:32:15,640 --> 02:32:17,640
Speaker 2: talking about? Michael Parsons will play for the Giants. I'm

2910
02:32:17,640 --> 02:32:22,200
Speaker 2: an idiot. If Russell Wilson, though, could just look serviceable

2911
02:32:22,240 --> 02:32:25,200
Speaker 2: and win one on two of those games, then he'll

2912
02:32:25,240 --> 02:32:27,680
Speaker 2: probably start a fifth game. But if they start out

2913
02:32:27,760 --> 02:32:29,640
Speaker 2: zero to four, you got to go to Jackson Dart.

2914
02:32:29,680 --> 02:32:32,760
Speaker 2: You're done. Twenty two year olds. He took more second

2915
02:32:32,800 --> 02:32:38,200
Speaker 2: team reps. Look at the bottom. Look then Jameis Winston

2916
02:32:38,280 --> 02:32:41,279
Speaker 2: did and he looked really good on in his debut.

2917
02:32:41,440 --> 02:32:44,200
Speaker 2: Jackson Dark can play. He is their future.

2918
02:32:44,360 --> 02:32:45,160
Speaker 6: So there you have it.

2919
02:32:45,840 --> 02:32:48,080
Speaker 2: I like the Eagles to win it. The Commander's second

2920
02:32:49,040 --> 02:32:51,160
Speaker 2: Cowboys and Giants put him in a blender. See what

2921
02:32:51,280 --> 02:32:54,240
Speaker 2: you come up with. Coming up, we wrap up the show.

2922
02:32:55,520 --> 02:33:00,320
Speaker 2: And there's a particular pitcher in Major League Baseball that

2923
02:33:01,560 --> 02:33:05,680
Speaker 2: every fifth day fans really get their money's worth. But man,

2924
02:33:05,800 --> 02:33:08,560
Speaker 2: he is stuck on a team that couldn't beat the

2925
02:33:08,600 --> 02:33:11,880
Speaker 2: Hoboken Zephyrs. We'll talk about it coming up. I'm Bernie

2926
02:33:11,879 --> 02:33:14,480
Speaker 2: Fredder or Company Line from the Las Vegas Fox Sports

2927
02:33:14,560 --> 02:33:16,480
Speaker 2: Radio Studios. Keep it locked. You're listening to the Bernie

2928
02:33:16,520 --> 02:33:19,640
Speaker 2: Fraddle Show on Fox Sports Radio. All right, wrapping it

2929
02:33:19,720 --> 02:33:22,600
Speaker 2: up on the Bernie Fraddle Show, Fox Sports Radio. Com

2930
02:33:22,680 --> 02:33:27,000
Speaker 2: to Lion from the Las Vegas Fox Sports Radio Studios.

2931
02:33:27,120 --> 02:33:31,640
Speaker 2: Quick programming note, you'll notice that Mark Medina Medina Magic

2932
02:33:31,720 --> 02:33:36,320
Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio. NBA Guru, his time slot for

2933
02:33:36,520 --> 02:33:41,520
Speaker 2: his weekly hit is now one am Pacific time for

2934
02:33:41,760 --> 02:33:48,200
Speaker 2: a Eastern time that will continue throughout football season. It's

2935
02:33:48,280 --> 02:33:52,959
Speaker 2: not covering the NBA. It doesn't have its merits. We're

2936
02:33:53,000 --> 02:33:55,880
Speaker 2: in the throws of football. We're thirteen days away from

2937
02:33:56,200 --> 02:34:00,440
Speaker 2: the first college football games you'll have. They call it

2938
02:34:00,520 --> 02:34:02,840
Speaker 2: week zero or a week negative one, whatever the hell

2939
02:34:02,920 --> 02:34:06,360
Speaker 2: they call it. They're real college football games in thirteen days.

2940
02:34:06,920 --> 02:34:11,360
Speaker 2: The NFL is here in fine feedl The storylines are

2941
02:34:11,400 --> 02:34:15,160
Speaker 2: already bubbling over. People have asked me, will you be

2942
02:34:15,240 --> 02:34:17,360
Speaker 2: having Steve Fessik on the physic five Fest? Will be

2943
02:34:17,440 --> 02:34:20,119
Speaker 2: on again this year, not maybe every week. We've got

2944
02:34:20,120 --> 02:34:24,480
Speaker 2: a lot of great football guests, experts, betting experts, insiders,

2945
02:34:25,120 --> 02:34:27,640
Speaker 2: and you know, every time you sign on Saturday night,

2946
02:34:27,720 --> 02:34:29,480
Speaker 2: then there's a full slate of college football that day,

2947
02:34:29,520 --> 02:34:31,400
Speaker 2: in a full slate of NFL the next day, and

2948
02:34:31,440 --> 02:34:33,400
Speaker 2: they'll already been a Thursday night game played. Who knows

2949
02:34:33,440 --> 02:34:35,280
Speaker 2: what's happening. We got to bring in the latest, But

2950
02:34:35,520 --> 02:34:38,000
Speaker 2: that doesn't mean we eliminate NBA.

2951
02:34:38,240 --> 02:34:38,720
Speaker 15: We just have.

2952
02:34:39,440 --> 02:34:44,720
Speaker 2: We'll have Mark Medina Magic, our NBA guru, at one am,

2953
02:34:44,920 --> 02:34:49,480
Speaker 2: and then probably in January they're abouts, he'll resume and

2954
02:34:49,560 --> 02:34:51,320
Speaker 2: the NBA will be in the throes of good season.

2955
02:34:51,400 --> 02:34:53,720
Speaker 2: By the way, they're going to be real NBA games.

2956
02:34:53,760 --> 02:34:57,360
Speaker 2: And seventy two days, there's that Friday night doubleheader we

2957
02:34:57,440 --> 02:35:02,040
Speaker 2: talked about before I get to our mystery quarterback. Excuse me,

2958
02:35:02,120 --> 02:35:05,600
Speaker 2: quarterback pitcher. I don't know if you watch the Raiders

2959
02:35:06,680 --> 02:35:10,320
Speaker 2: Seahawks game on Thursday night, fans were a little uh

2960
02:35:10,720 --> 02:35:13,400
Speaker 2: iracus it in Seattle, which they are want to be.

2961
02:35:14,200 --> 02:35:16,280
Speaker 2: Probably many have been hooked up to a blender since

2962
02:35:16,320 --> 02:35:19,640
Speaker 2: early that morning. One fan was taunting the players before

2963
02:35:19,720 --> 02:35:24,560
Speaker 2: the game started. I think, and it's and he held

2964
02:35:24,640 --> 02:35:28,040
Speaker 2: up this big sign that said, quote bigger bust Gino

2965
02:35:29,000 --> 02:35:31,320
Speaker 2: or JaMarcus Russell. I mean that that's gonna hurt, That's

2966
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Speaker 2: gonna leave the mark. You remember the then Oakland Raiders

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02:35:34,480 --> 02:35:37,560
Speaker 2: drafted JaMarcus Russell first overall in two thousand and seven.

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02:35:38,280 --> 02:35:40,879
Speaker 2: He went seven and eighteen as a starting quarterback, played

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02:35:40,920 --> 02:35:48,000
Speaker 2: only three seasons. That that is a a you know,

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02:35:48,320 --> 02:35:52,280
Speaker 2: just one of those deals, right. So, Gino, Smith and

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02:35:52,480 --> 02:35:58,600
Speaker 2: Max Crosby were captured on video making obscene gestures towards

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02:35:58,640 --> 02:36:01,000
Speaker 2: Seahawks fans as the end of the field before the

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Speaker 2: game Thursday night. Now, by the way, and keis you

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Speaker 2: missed it. They gave him the one finger piece sign

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02:36:05,760 --> 02:36:10,400
Speaker 2: right now. Last year in November, Brian Branch of the

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02:36:10,520 --> 02:36:14,119
Speaker 2: Lions a safety did a similar thing to Green Bay

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02:36:14,160 --> 02:36:18,280
Speaker 2: Packers fans, and he was fined ten thousand dollars twenty

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02:36:18,280 --> 02:36:20,640
Speaker 2: eight dollars. I don't know what's gonna happen, but I

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02:36:20,680 --> 02:36:24,280
Speaker 2: think something has to do. You can't have this. Max

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02:36:24,400 --> 02:36:28,360
Speaker 2: Crosby's gonna get Hall of Fame votes someday. Gino's Gino right,

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02:36:28,720 --> 02:36:30,320
Speaker 2: he wrote me off, I ain't right back on. It

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02:36:30,520 --> 02:36:33,320
Speaker 2: gets you too busy flipping people off. The team is

2983
02:36:33,400 --> 02:36:36,760
Speaker 2: rather ready to enter the field. They were gathered. Crosby's

2984
02:36:36,800 --> 02:36:39,000
Speaker 2: jumping up and down, he's talking to fans, chirping. He

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02:36:39,040 --> 02:36:42,720
Speaker 2: tries to grab the sign. Then Gino Smith joins up

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02:36:42,760 --> 02:36:44,720
Speaker 2: with Crosby. They're jumping up and down and they look

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02:36:44,720 --> 02:36:47,120
Speaker 2: in the direction and the fans and the team starts

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02:36:47,160 --> 02:36:50,640
Speaker 2: to run out of the field and Smith Gino makes

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Speaker 2: the one finger piece sign, and then Crosby followed up

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02:36:53,600 --> 02:36:56,320
Speaker 2: with one of his own. Yeah they were todded. Yeah,

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02:36:56,440 --> 02:37:00,480
Speaker 2: fans are fans short for fanatic, don't well, okay, there's

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02:37:00,520 --> 02:37:03,000
Speaker 2: no need to even speak on any further. You know better,

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02:37:03,879 --> 02:37:07,240
Speaker 2: but it happened, okay, And it's just one of those

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02:37:07,280 --> 02:37:11,680
Speaker 2: situations where the Raiders culture doesn't need that they need

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Speaker 2: to get back to winning games. It's an iconic franchise,

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02:37:13,879 --> 02:37:15,480
Speaker 2: but I just feel like they're living in the past.

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Speaker 2: How good, really? How good is Pittsburgh Pirates phenom pitcher

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Speaker 2: Paul Skeens. Here's your answer. Since he made his debut

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Speaker 2: in May of twenty twenty four, straight out of college

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02:37:29,959 --> 02:37:32,440
Speaker 2: out of LSU, spent fifteen minutes in the minor leagues,

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02:37:32,879 --> 02:37:36,320
Speaker 2: he has accumulative one point nine five ERA and a

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02:37:37,440 --> 02:37:39,720
Speaker 2: point nine to three to nine WHIP. That's the lowest

3003
02:37:39,800 --> 02:37:43,600
Speaker 2: ERA in the forty seven starts he's had forty seven starts.

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02:37:44,000 --> 02:37:47,880
Speaker 2: That is historically the lowest ERA of any pitcher in

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02:37:48,000 --> 02:37:50,920
Speaker 2: history of the first forty seven starts of their career.

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Speaker 2: And he's pitching for a team that can't score runs now.

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Speaker 2: Skeens was a legitimate say On candidate last season even

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02:37:58,240 --> 02:38:01,280
Speaker 2: though they only made twenty three starts, and he's actually

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Speaker 2: a favorite to win the say Young Award this year.

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Speaker 2: This is only his first full season in the big leagues.

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Speaker 18: Remember, he.

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Speaker 2: Won the World Series at LSU and it's been a

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02:38:13,040 --> 02:38:15,560
Speaker 2: rocket ship. Currently has the lowest the area of the

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02:38:15,640 --> 02:38:20,280
Speaker 2: majors has the second lowest behind the FIP behind only

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02:38:20,400 --> 02:38:23,080
Speaker 2: Trek Scougel, who's the reigning Ale Sion Award winner and

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02:38:23,160 --> 02:38:27,119
Speaker 2: wants fod a four hundred million excuse me, and Skeens

3017
02:38:27,120 --> 02:38:29,000
Speaker 2: has also given up the fewest home runs per nine

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02:38:29,040 --> 02:38:32,520
Speaker 2: innings point four, gives up a home run about every

3019
02:38:32,560 --> 02:38:37,720
Speaker 2: twenty five innings. He's dominated, and he's managed to mask

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Speaker 2: all the Pirates struggles but also making them much more frustrating.

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Speaker 2: Pittsburgh is in last place. They won their sixteen games

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Speaker 2: under five hundred and this is a team whose offense

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02:38:47,879 --> 02:38:49,880
Speaker 2: has scored two runs or fewer and ten of his

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02:38:49,959 --> 02:38:53,199
Speaker 2: starts he gets no run support plan on a team.

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Speaker 2: But every fifth day, if you're a fan, you get

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Speaker 2: to go to Pittsburgh and you get to see this

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Speaker 2: guy who's historic. Whole Pittsburgh keeps him around. It's gonna

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Speaker 2: do it for the Bernie Fratter Show. Keep it locked

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Speaker 2: on next the Great Andy Furman, Fox Sports Radio