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Speaker 2: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

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Speaker 2: your twenty four to seven Home of the Black and

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Speaker 2: Gold cast in Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to the Drive. It is a victory Monday here

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Speaker 3: sort of in Pittsburgh because you don't get a lot

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Speaker 3: of time to enjoy a victory over the Ravens. On Sunday,

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Speaker 3: I was right and that was wrong, But.

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Speaker 1: Apparently I caught a bunch of heat for picking.

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Speaker 3: A lot of people were very upset with you.

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Speaker 1: On I should just pick them every time, no matter what.

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Speaker 3: That is the case.

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Speaker 1: Duly noted.

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Speaker 3: They were also very upset some people that apparently on

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Speaker 3: another podcast you said Miles Garrett is better than TJ.

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Speaker 1: Watt. Yeah, I have said that. You have said that,

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Speaker 1: and it never goes over with you. Really Well, I

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Speaker 1: think they are point zero zero zero one percent different.

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Speaker 1: But I think Micah Parsons both so Watt Garrett are

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Speaker 1: all Hall of Fame caliber, elite edge guys, and he

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Speaker 1: would be my pick if you only got one. I

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Speaker 1: think you're wrong, but I get it neither here nor

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Speaker 1: there anyways. Side note, So I did pick the Ravens

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Speaker 1: five minutes before kickoff. Put a couple bucks on the

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Speaker 1: steel money line.

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Speaker 3: Just he's Matt Williamson, I'm Dale LOLLI, this is on

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Speaker 3: the house. I am Steelers Nation Radio. And well, the

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Speaker 3: Steelers pull out an eighteen sixteen victory over the Baltimore

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Speaker 3: Ravens on Sunday, and it was everybody thought this was

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Speaker 3: going to be a higher scoring game. Yeah, and the

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Speaker 3: Steelers once again turned it into a rock.

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Speaker 1: Fight they did. I mean, things don't change. I mean

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Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of really good football, and

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Speaker 1: then a lot of Lamar didn't look like Lamar. I

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Speaker 1: didn't think Wilson looked like Wilson. I thought that, you know,

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Speaker 1: things in the margins as we expected, greatly favor the Steelers.

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Speaker 1: I thought the Steelers had a coaching advantage throughout the game.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if home field advantage was huge or

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Speaker 1: they always end up Justin Tucker, I brought that up,

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Speaker 1: guy made six to six, you know what I.

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Speaker 3: Mean, including three from fifty plus. Like, but yeah, justin

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Speaker 3: that the field was the problem.

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Speaker 1: But it doesn't you Steelers Ravens is just kind of

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Speaker 1: always the same, and lately the outcome is always the same.

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Speaker 3: Eight out of nine, pretty crazy out of nine for

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Speaker 3: the Steelers. They now have a two well but essentially

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Speaker 3: a two game lead in the AFC North because it's

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Speaker 3: two games in the lost column, right right right, and

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Speaker 3: realistically three games when you start considering tie breakers. Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 3: because that was the Ravens second Division loss. The Steelers

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Speaker 3: don't have any because they've only played one division game.

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Speaker 1: Baltimore has an either by folks, that's part of.

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Speaker 3: The yeah, and so it's that game was monumental yesterday

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Speaker 1: Just the standings in the math of it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, even all right, the Steelers are now the favorite

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Speaker 1: Ye should be.

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Speaker 3: They were not your favorite going into that game, right,

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Speaker 3: even you know all the metrics anybody that you look,

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Speaker 1: Now, It's amazing that one game can do that much

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Speaker 1: when you have you're playing them again, yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: and you got all your division games still ahead of

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Speaker 3: It was really an interesting game, the chess match that

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Speaker 3: went on between the two teams in this game. Now,

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Speaker 3: Basically double teaming Pickens, Yeah, always on picking size, always

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Speaker 1: And I think that was misjudged. I mean, clearly, what

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Speaker 3: They were going to take it away and the Steeler as.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll say this though. They adjusted in the second

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Speaker 3: doing that in the second half, he was eleven of

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Speaker 3: the bad interception?

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Speaker 1: That's inexcusual.

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Speaker 3: Immediately I start getting people you said, he doesn't do

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Speaker 3: our YouTube page. If that's your reaction, is waiting for

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Speaker 3: this guy to make one mistake, you're a pretty crappy

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's not gonna be perfect, no, right right.

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Speaker 1: It was a really really bad play.

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Speaker 3: And I guess so there again, if you're a Justin

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Speaker 3: the fact of the matter. When Russell Wilson fumbles six

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Speaker 3: because those matter. And I love Justin Fields. I still

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Speaker 3: think Justin Fields can be a good quarterback in this year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I think he's going to play a role with

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Speaker 3: Yes he will. He played a role in yesterday's game.

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Speaker 3: I think Russell Wilson is a better quarterback for this team.

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Speaker 1: That doesn't mean I hate.

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Speaker 3: Justin Fields or the other quarterback will make mistakes.

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Speaker 1: And that was a terrible boy. It was a bad one. No,

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Speaker 1: there's no question about it. And frankly, I don't know

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Speaker 3: I think it was too high for Washington.

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Speaker 3: And I think Washington thought he was trying to throw it.

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Speaker 1: He may not even know there was someone behind him.

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Speaker 3: I saw that it's a snap of the ball. Before

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Speaker 1: In the tight red zone situation.

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Speaker 3: In the tight red zone situation, you wouldn't think you'd

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Speaker 3: take your best coverage guy and put him on Darnell Washington. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: but I think that's just how it ended up.

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Speaker 1: I probably just threw motion and maybe that's how Arthur

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Speaker 3: But Okay, it happened. The Steelers still get the victory.

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Speaker 3: Can they be better in the red zone? Absolutely? That

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Speaker 3: Tredavious White, who was another adjustment that they made. He

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he actually held up pretty well. Well, yeah, held

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Speaker 1: He was pretty grabby when they got away with it.

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Speaker 1: got away with some things. Those are the big defensive adjustments.

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Speaker 1: They made some on offense too that were uncharacteristic that

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Speaker 1: I didn't understand it all. Yeah, they kind of understood

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Speaker 3: They took the bait, and honestly, I think when Mike

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Speaker 3: It's a Lamar jump pass. He kind of runs through

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Speaker 3: it was too late. And then the Ravens inexplicably not

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Speaker 1: But you knew Hardball's telling Monk, and we need our

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Speaker 1: put them on the field a lot harder than Justice Hill. Right,

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Speaker 1: No, I think part of it was. And I understand

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Speaker 1: That made no sense to me at all. And Lamar

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Speaker 3: They ran the ball nineteen times, Yeah, nineteen times, luding

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Speaker 3: and the Steelers made adjustments too offensively. Yeah, you saw

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Speaker 1: And they know those are the woobies, those the middlefield guys,

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Speaker 3: I want to say Menca gave up two catches that

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Speaker 1: This isn't Gronkowski. That's what that goes back to. It's

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Speaker 3: The Steeler has been very good against the tight end.

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Speaker 3: What tight ends have beat him up this year? I

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Speaker 3: mean Hoers, Okay, yeah, Pitt's had a touchdown catch against him.

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Speaker 1: That's all he did, right, It's not Gronkowski against a

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Speaker 3: Now it used to be, Yeah, I mean you got

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Speaker 3: but if you look at I mean Zay Flowers six targets,

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Speaker 1: Running a lot of eleven and your receivers aren't catching

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Speaker 3: No, he was ten for twenty five for one hundred

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Speaker 1: That's not all that surprising. Yeah, that's kind of how

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Speaker 1: I'm glad that I was about to say, yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean they, I mean they did their

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Speaker 1: You know, I know, I feel like JJ Watt when

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Speaker 1: Jayden Daniels isn't the biggest pocket passer, Lamar is not

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Speaker 3: They pressured Lamar on forty percent of his dropbacks. He

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Speaker 3: pressured by the Steelers twenty three of seventy nine for

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Speaker 3: the equation, they're down to one point zero yards per

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Speaker 3: like it doesn't getting better, No, And I know the

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Speaker 1: That's about to say the sack numbers are low. So

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Speaker 1: the Barnwells point your point, their pressures seem to matter

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Speaker 1: I mean, you're only allowed to send five out in

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So I think you know, we can effectively say,

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Speaker 1: He's gonna need to adjust how he plays against this team.

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Speaker 3: His career passer rating going into that game against them

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Speaker 3: His passer rating yesterday was sixty six point two. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: It's kind of a bigger picture note, but it's something

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Speaker 3: Well, see, this is the problem that the Steelers ran

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Speaker 1: Buffalo fell for this trap too.

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Speaker 3: You built yourself realized, Yeah, we gotta beat the We

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Speaker 1: You gotta be who you are, and I think there's

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Speaker 1: a little bit of an identity crisis, and you have

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Speaker 1: to be able to do both things right. Ideally dictate

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Speaker 1: the way that the game.

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Speaker 3: Is played exactly right. And I think Mike Tomlin does

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Speaker 3: as good a job as that as any coach in

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Speaker 3: the league.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, absolutely. I mean again, that's a lot of high picks.

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Speaker 1: I have cited that are finessy ish. That doesn't mean

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Speaker 1: they're bad players, but that's not what they are, right.

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Speaker 3: Not what this is. And I think you might see

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Speaker 3: the similar situation with the with the Bengals when the

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Speaker 3: Steelers play them later in the season because they can't

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Speaker 3: block anybody.

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Speaker 1: They No, it's all Borough, Yeah, all Borough.

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Speaker 3: And he's great, but he's wonderful. He got the snot

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Speaker 3: beat out of him last night.

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Speaker 1: He does every game. Man.

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Speaker 3: I kept waiting for him not get up, like, hey,

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Speaker 3: stay down, Champ.

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Speaker 1: Right, he played an unbelievable second half. But yeah, it's

455
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Speaker 1: I tweeted out his numbers and their losses. They're amazing.

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Speaker 1: He has like an eighteen to two touchdown interception ratio

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Speaker 1: and there's not enough around him.

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Speaker 3: No, And you saw the quote from Jamar Chase today

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Speaker 3: like hey, I just run what they could tell me

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Speaker 3: to run. And you know, go ask Zach about why

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Speaker 3: some of this stuff is happening, Like that's not what

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Speaker 3: you want to hear. No, Right, some of those guys

463
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Speaker 3: might be wondered, do I really want to re sign here?

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Speaker 3: I want to be back.

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Speaker 1: I mean no, I read something about it now. I

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Speaker 1: think Mike Sando wrote it like laid it all out, like,

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Speaker 1: is the Bengals windows slamming shut? It might be, it

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Speaker 1: might be. You know, I love what Burrow said, the

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Speaker 1: windows open as long as I'm here. That is cool.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 3: I wish he could be my quarterback any day of

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Speaker 3: the week. But you need teammates. Yeah, it's not. It's

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Speaker 3: not a one man show. And that was kind of

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Speaker 3: Cam Hayward's point after the game yesterday because he was

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Speaker 3: asked about Lamar and everybody's talking about Lamar Lamar la

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Speaker 3: are he say, Hey, we got good players on our

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Speaker 3: side of this too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. And that defense thus doesn't have a lot of holes.

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Speaker 1: You're like, where do you attack the defense? Now? I

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Speaker 1: am not real short.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely well, I don't think the Ravens are either.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna get their break. He is the Matt Williamson,

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Speaker 3: I am Dale Lolly. This is the Drive on the

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Speaker 3: Steelers Audio Network. When we return, we'll hear from Rob

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Speaker 3: King and what his thoughts were on yesterday. Steelers win

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Speaker 3: right after this.

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Speaker 1: At least.

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Speaker 2: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

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Speaker 2: your twenty four to seven Home of the Black and

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Speaker 2: Gold Steelers Nation.

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Speaker 3: Radio welcome back. I am Dale Lolly. He is the

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Speaker 3: Matt Williamson and we're joined on the Justin Miller Hotline

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Speaker 3: by Rob King, the Steelers play by play announcer, and

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Speaker 3: Kinger eight and two. How does that sound to you?

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Speaker 4: Sounds good to me, man, sounds really good. Don't care

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Speaker 4: how it happens, you know, don't care how the results are.

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Speaker 5: I love it.

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Speaker 4: You beat a quality team, rivalry game, your place, first place,

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Speaker 4: by yourself.

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Speaker 5: Love it.

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Speaker 3: There are still people questioning whether the Steelers are a

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Speaker 3: good team or not. They're five and zero against teams

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Speaker 3: that are currently in the playoffs in the AFC and NFC.

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Speaker 1: The five game winning streak that doesn't happen by accident

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Speaker 1: in the NFL.

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Speaker 4: Well, you don't have to convince me. I'm with you, guys.

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Speaker 4: I believe they are and I believe they're a good

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Speaker 4: team for a number of reasons. I think that, you know,

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Speaker 4: the defense is better than it's been in a long time,

510
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Speaker 4: well not a long time, but I just think they're

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Speaker 4: I think they're a little bit better than.

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Speaker 5: The defense is the last couple of years.

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Speaker 4: That's been the main reason that in the running game

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Speaker 4: that they've gotten to the playoffs.

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Speaker 5: I think they're special teams, are elite, and I think they've.

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Speaker 4: Got you know, they got a nine time Pro Bowl

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Speaker 4: quarterback and I think future Hall of Famer quarter and

518
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Speaker 4: that makes a world of difference as well. I just

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Speaker 4: think that in every way possible, this team is a

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Speaker 4: better team than when we've got and you said, you know, look, man,

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Speaker 4: you can you can excuse fans to some degree because

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Speaker 4: for the last what four or five years, this has

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Speaker 4: been a team that's been trying to get into the playoffs.

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Speaker 4: They haven't won a playoff game, they haven't really felt

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Speaker 4: like a threat. They've played some top teams and really

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Speaker 4: gotten you know, gotten handled on several occasions, and so

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Speaker 4: people forget that, Oh yeah, this is what it's kind

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Speaker 4: of like.

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Speaker 5: You forget.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, this is what a nine time Pro Bowl

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Speaker 4: quarterback looks like. Oh yeah, this is what to me,

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Speaker 4: this is what a quality, really good football team looks like.

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Speaker 5: And they look like eaton too.

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Speaker 1: And in first place, you mentioned special teams, and I

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Speaker 1: do think it is elite, and that's a big word.

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Speaker 1: And anyone on the planet could see the kicker advantage.

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Speaker 1: I think everyone realizes that the block kick situation is rare.

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Speaker 1: But you mentioned this on another show and I did

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Speaker 1: some homework. Since we talked last week, we've talked a

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Speaker 1: lot today. The uh Steers punt team is as good

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Speaker 1: as any in the league too, and I didn't realize

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Speaker 1: how strong that area was.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I was looking it up going to

544
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Speaker 4: the Ravens game and they were allowing two point seven

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Speaker 4: yards for return. That's best in the NFL and.

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Speaker 5: So and you know they they don't in the past.

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Speaker 5: You know, Mike Tomlin is always.

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Speaker 4: Even talking about his punter said, Look, we don't just

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Speaker 4: look at average, and we don't even just look at net.

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Speaker 4: Sometimes we look at you know, situational punting and the

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Speaker 4: way they break things down. Well, I can just look

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Speaker 4: at the raw numbers and tell you that's the best

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Speaker 4: in the league. There's nobody better at covering punts. And

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Speaker 4: the Steelers they've got a punt return for a touchdown.

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Speaker 4: And then you mentioned the blocks as well. It's been

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Speaker 4: a unit that's made a difference. And you know, Matt,

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Speaker 4: You've always used the expression with me, and I'm sure

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Speaker 4: with Dale and with others. As you know, winning in

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Speaker 4: the margins, you know, finding different places, you know, to

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Speaker 4: to try.

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Speaker 5: To get an edge on the opponent.

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Speaker 4: And you know, look, the great teams do that too, right,

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Speaker 4: the great teams win in the margins, but there's also

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Speaker 4: some place they can beat you, or someplace where they

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Speaker 4: can play with.

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Speaker 5: You, you know, other places.

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Speaker 4: And I think that you know, the students have always

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Speaker 4: felt you know, Steelers fans would always feel good about

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Speaker 4: their defense they over the last couple of years. But

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Speaker 4: you know that, and you know, but you're going against

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Speaker 4: the Buffalo Bills team, you'd say, well, we have to

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Speaker 4: win the turnover battle. You know, we might even have

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Speaker 4: to get two turnovers.

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Speaker 5: More than then.

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Speaker 4: You know, we might need something to happen in special teams. Well,

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Speaker 4: I don't think you need to do that anymore. But

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Speaker 4: you're getting those things as well. So that makes you,

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Speaker 4: to me, that makes you a formidable team. You not

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Speaker 4: only can win in the margins, but you can go

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Speaker 4: out there and you know, do what no other team

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Speaker 4: has been able to do against Lamar and Deeric Hennery.

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Speaker 4: That's hold on hundred twenty points, hold them under three

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Speaker 4: hundred and seventy five yards.

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Speaker 5: You know, no team had done that.

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Speaker 4: And then you know, offensively, the last three games they

586
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Speaker 4: averaged thirty point three points per game, when Russell Wilson

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Speaker 4: became the starter, and you had the special teams and

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Speaker 4: you had the turnover margin.

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Speaker 5: That's that to me describing another team.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, if I was describing another team, somebody be oh,

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Speaker 4: it's great, that team sounds great.

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Speaker 5: Well, that's your team, that's the Pittsburgh Steelers.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Rob, I thought. I thought one of the keys

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Speaker 3: to yesterday's victory, and it was what the Steelers did

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Speaker 3: in the second half of the game controlling the ball

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Speaker 3: with their offense. Yes, they weren't scoring touchdowns, but field goal,

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Speaker 3: field goal, interception in the end zone, field goal, take

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Speaker 3: a knee to end a game? Like you and you

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Speaker 3: held the football thirty one yard, sixty one yards, sixty

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Speaker 3: three yards, thirty two yards. They held the ball for

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Speaker 3: over twenty minutes in the second half. And at some point,

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Speaker 3: if you're a quarterback, and I don't care what quarterback

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Speaker 3: you are, you start looking at the clock. One you

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Speaker 3: had The Ravens had one possession in the third quarter. Yeah, one, right,

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Speaker 3: And so yeah, if you're quarterback, your bound to start

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Speaker 3: looking at the clock and you're going, how many more

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Speaker 3: possessions am I going to get?

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Speaker 1: Here?

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Speaker 3: Our defense isn't stopping these guys necessarily. They're eating up

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Speaker 3: a lot of clock.

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Speaker 1: The second half dominance is very real. Yeah, it was.

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Speaker 5: Uh well last week was the first time they'd give

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Speaker 5: it up a point in the third quarter. I'm not mistaken.

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Speaker 4: Yes, it was a plus fifty five point differential in

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Speaker 4: the second half. That's called winning football. That's closing it out,

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Speaker 4: that is. And I think part of that is, you know,

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Speaker 4: putting that investment in and it you know, we've used

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Speaker 4: this analogy before of you know, the boxer that goes

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Speaker 4: to the body that's you might lose a round or

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Speaker 4: two early, but you're putting in the investment that pretty

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Speaker 4: soon that's gonna wear down your opponent, that's going to

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Speaker 4: bring those hands down, that's going to allow you to

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Speaker 4: go for a knockout punch. Well, that's what the students

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Speaker 4: are doing in some regard. But we like more flash.

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Speaker 5: Sure. Do we want better red zone percentages? Absolutely? And

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Speaker 5: you know when you think about that, Okay.

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Speaker 4: They missed two field goals, all right, Well, you know

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Speaker 4: the students through an interception in.

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Speaker 5: The end zone.

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Speaker 4: You know, you always look at kind of your own

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Speaker 4: blemishes and think, well, you know, if they'd done this,

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Speaker 4: they would have won. Well, you know it's easy to say, well,

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Speaker 4: you know, if Tucker made his two field goals.

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Speaker 5: They would have won the game.

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Speaker 4: Well, first of all, he didn't, and your guy win

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Speaker 4: six for six. And secondly, what happens if in the

637
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Speaker 4: red zone you convert? What happens if if Darnel Washington

638
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Speaker 4: snags that ball out of air out of the air

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Speaker 4: that Russell Wilson throws. What if you convert one more

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Speaker 4: touchdown as well? Well, you know, what are you up to?

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Speaker 4: Then you're up to what twenty nine points?

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Speaker 5: You know, you win the game.

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Speaker 4: So there there are certainly things that the students could

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Speaker 4: do better offensively, But that formula, again, it allows you

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Speaker 4: to win without necessarily doing everything at an elite level,

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Speaker 4: which I think takes me back to the to the

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Speaker 4: beginning of this conversation and your ability to win games

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Speaker 4: in different ways and.

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Speaker 5: Not needing a strict.

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Speaker 4: Formula of hey we won, uh you know the turnover

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Speaker 4: battle by two and you know they you know, theym

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Speaker 4: off the punt and then that's why we beat the

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Speaker 4: elite team. Oh, they can beat an elite team and

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Speaker 4: not necessary not have everything go perfectly and that scenario

655
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Speaker 4: you're talking about. The first time I remember that really

656
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Speaker 4: being a factor was when the Giants beat the Bills

657
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Speaker 4: in the Super Bowl and and they just kept Jim

658
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Speaker 4: Kelly and that what do they call the K gun offense?

659
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Speaker 4: They kept them on the sidelines and and and those

660
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Speaker 4: guys stood over there and they're sweat cooled, and you know,

661
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Speaker 4: they're limbering up their shoulders and they're breathing on their hands,

662
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Speaker 4: you know, trying to keep arm and rubbing their hands together,

663
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Speaker 4: and wanted to get out there, and you're just you're

664
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Speaker 4: just preventing them from being out there.

665
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Speaker 5: So you know, I think there again, I totally agree

666
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Speaker 5: with what you're saying.

667
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Speaker 4: Dale. And on top of that, you put a little

668
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Speaker 4: more execution on top of that, and who aren't you beating?

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Speaker 1: So one thing I've heard since Wilson's taken over is, boy,

670
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Speaker 1: I like Russell Wilson. That's a nice fine blah blah blah.

671
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Speaker 1: But they're they're still not insistent enough on offense. And

672
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Speaker 1: how about this, I mean, the Steelers have put points

673
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Speaker 1: on the board in twenty two consecutive quarters played. That's

674
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Speaker 1: the longest streak in the league. So if you can

675
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Speaker 1: dominate time of possession, keep them on the sidelines in

676
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Speaker 1: every quarter you put up a point or more. It's

677
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Speaker 1: just so much pressure to deal with. You can see

678
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Speaker 1: why the end of games don't go well for the opponents.

679
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Speaker 4: Yeah, so first of all, my first question is is

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Speaker 4: that going to be in Matt statser? I need to

681
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Speaker 4: hang up now and write that down.

682
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Speaker 1: Oh, it's already typed in there. I just had to

683
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Speaker 1: pull the laptop up to get the number right.

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Speaker 4: Well, if you're listening to this city, to be listening

685
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Speaker 4: to the show on Thursday, the game on Thursday, you're

686
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Speaker 4: gonna hear that stat again.

687
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Speaker 5: The good words dat, I wasn't aware that stat. That's

688
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Speaker 5: a phenomenal stat, And you're.

689
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Speaker 4: Right, that's meaningful because it is you constantly putting pressure

690
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Speaker 4: on the other team, but generally speaking not always. Look,

691
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Speaker 4: they they got the turnover and they got a quick

692
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Speaker 4: field goal on it. I think they picked up one

693
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Speaker 4: once down in that opening drive, one or maybe two.

694
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Speaker 4: Then they wind up kicking the field goal. Largely, if

695
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Speaker 4: you score a touchdown or kick a field goal, it's

696
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Speaker 4: because you possessed the football. Going back to what Dyale

697
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Speaker 4: was just talking about. So, yeah, you've mounted consistent attacks.

698
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Speaker 4: And I believe, you know, Russell Wilson's always been.

699
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Speaker 5: A good red zone quarterback. And look, I'm a believer

700
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Speaker 5: that you win games.

701
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Speaker 4: If you're an elite team, you win games, and then

702
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Speaker 4: somewhere towards the latter part of the season you begin

703
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Speaker 4: to peak. There are a lot of teams that peak

704
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Speaker 4: at the midpoint of the season, that peak in week

705
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Speaker 4: ten or week eleven, that have fizzled.

706
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Speaker 5: Out by the time you get to the playoffs.

707
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Speaker 4: Now, we all want a team that goes twenty and

708
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Speaker 4: h Right, that's only half the one undefeated team in

709
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Speaker 4: the history of the NFL. So you need to be

710
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Speaker 4: peaking as you get into the playoffs. You need to

711
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Speaker 4: be able to find what you need to find as

712
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Speaker 4: you get into the playoffs. And for me, that is

713
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Speaker 4: one area, you know, turning.

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Speaker 1: Uh you know.

715
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Speaker 4: We've been calling on the on the on the broadcast alchemy,

716
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Speaker 4: right it started with it started in Vegas. Where you

717
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Speaker 4: you go out to Vegas and you're trying to turn

718
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Speaker 4: five thousand dollars into twenty thousand dollars. Right, that's everybody's dream.

719
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Speaker 3: In Vegas to turn three.

720
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Speaker 4: Yeah, no's what's closer is you show up there to

721
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Speaker 4: twenty thousand dollars card and leaving a seventy five thousand

722
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Speaker 4: dollars greyhound.

723
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Speaker 5: But as the old.

724
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Speaker 4: Joke goes, but I think you know, when you talk

725
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Speaker 4: about the alchemy, the stelis need they need to turn

726
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Speaker 4: three into seven more often. It is wonderful to have

727
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Speaker 4: the best tripper in the game in Chris Boswell, but

728
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Speaker 4: you don't want him kicking six field goals a game,

729
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Speaker 4: and you know, unless that's what it takes to win.

730
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Speaker 4: But you know, you get into the playoffs and you're

731
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Speaker 4: playing the Ravens again, or you're playing the Chiefs, or

732
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Speaker 4: you're getting a shoot out, maybe the Bengals squeak in

733
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Speaker 4: and suddenly somebody starting points up on the board. You

734
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Speaker 4: can't settle for field goals and excuders, know, Matt, you know,

735
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Speaker 4: Mike Tom was asked about that. Today's like, yeah, I mean, sure,

736
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Speaker 4: of course we want to do that, and of course

737
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Speaker 4: we want to get better at it.

738
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Speaker 5: But it's okay, you still have time to get better

739
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Speaker 5: at that. It's still four.

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Speaker 4: Games with Russell Wilson, and not only four games with

741
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Speaker 4: Russell Wilson, guys, But as we know, he wasn't there

742
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Speaker 4: in camp. Uh, he was hurt a lot in camp,

743
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Speaker 4: He wasn't taking a lot of reps during the season.

744
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Speaker 4: This is like him starting, uh you know, for with

745
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Speaker 4: the last four games. This is like him at the

746
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Speaker 4: beginning of the season. So you know, let's give it

747
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Speaker 4: a little bit of a time to evolve. And I

748
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Speaker 4: think that's kind of the you know, barring health concerns

749
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Speaker 4: or whatever, and as long as you maintain your consistency

750
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Speaker 4: in other areas, that's sort of the last frontier for

751
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Speaker 4: this year. There's is turning those field goals into touchdowns.

752
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Speaker 4: And again just just take forget the interception in the

753
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Speaker 4: end zone. Just take two of those scores yesterday and

754
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Speaker 4: turn him into touchdowns. And you got twenty six points.

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Speaker 1: Fifteen times in the red zone. That's a lot to

756
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Speaker 1: don't have any touchdowns.

757
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Speaker 5: Right, right exactly. You need you need to have some touchdowns.

758
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Speaker 4: But you know what, that's his tail for another day.

759
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Speaker 4: On this day, you found a way to win. And

760
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Speaker 4: again I can't stress this enough, Like you find you

761
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Speaker 4: can win in a myriad of styles, and that is

762
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Speaker 4: to me that you have the ability to win in

763
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Speaker 4: a myriad of styles, and that to me is the

764
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Speaker 4: hallmark of a championship team. I mean, people forget last

765
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Speaker 4: year the Chiefs really basically won with their defense.

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Speaker 5: I mean that's what one of them. Their defense was fantastic.

767
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Speaker 4: But if Patrick Mahomes had to make a play, you

768
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Speaker 4: knew Patrick Mahomes can make a play for you, you

769
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Speaker 4: know what I mean.

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Speaker 5: So it's not just you're not just winning because you're

771
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Speaker 5: rolling out there with a great defense.

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Speaker 4: There's a myriad of ways that great teams usually can

773
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Speaker 4: find a way to beat you. And you know this,

774
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Speaker 4: Yethers are Look they're eight and two, where nobody's annoying

775
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 4: them a great team yet, but they're working towards that

776
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Speaker 4: and I think have a greater expectation of reaching that

777
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Speaker 4: sort of status, and they've had in several seasons.

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Speaker 3: Well, the record says, and as Bill Parcels always to say,

779
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Speaker 3: your record is what you are.

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Speaker 1: You are what your record is?

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Speaker 3: A yes, right, well, right now they're eight and two.

782
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Speaker 3: There are only two teams in the league that have

783
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Speaker 3: fewer losses than the Steelers. That would be Detroit and

784
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Speaker 3: Kansas City. Uh, there are only three teams overall who

785
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Speaker 3: have two losses, the Steelers being one of them. So

786
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Speaker 3: the record would say they are a good football team.

787
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Speaker 3: And uh, yeah, we'll see where it goes from here, Rob,

788
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Speaker 3: But we'll see you on well, actually we'll see you

789
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Speaker 3: tomorrow because we'll tape our show tomorrow. Wait for that

790
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Speaker 3: and then uh calling the game in Cleveland? Is your

791
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Speaker 3: first Cleveland game?

792
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Speaker 1: It is?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that was not my first Ravens game, but this

794
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Speaker 4: is my first. This is my first Cleveland Browns game. Yes,

795
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Speaker 4: behind the well, we will looking forward to it.

796
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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, we'll figure something out to do maybe uh

797
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Speaker 3: Wednesday night in Cleveland.

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Speaker 1: There. I bet you have an idea or two.

799
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Speaker 3: Maybe maybe. But he is Rob King. We appreciate Rob

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Speaker 3: stopping by the voice of the Pittsburgh Steelers. I'm Dale Lolly.

801
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Speaker 3: He is the Matt Williamson. We're gonna get to a break.

802
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 3: We'll be back with more right after this.

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Speaker 2: At least, he's the drive with Dale Lolly and Matt

804
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Speaker 2: Williamson on your twenty four to seven Home of the

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Speaker 2: Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 3: And we are back. I am Dale Lolly, he is

807
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Speaker 3: the Matt Williamson and Matt. I thought Rob brought up

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Speaker 3: an interesting point there that in the call, and we

809
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Speaker 3: thank Rob for calling in as usual on a Monday

810
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Speaker 3: day after the game.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

812
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Speaker 3: I don't think we're not going to do him on

813
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Speaker 3: Friday though.

814
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Speaker 1: Who knows this week is making my weeker? Yeah?

815
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Speaker 3: Crazy crazy Mabe. Who knows Missy is our Friday call? Well,

816
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Speaker 3: Missy from anyways, the Steelers have now shown last week

817
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Speaker 3: against Washington or two weeks ago again now against Washington

818
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Speaker 3: they can win a high scoring game.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

820
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Speaker 3: Yeah, they show against the Ravens they can win a

821
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:07,839
Speaker 3: tight game, a lower scoring game. They've blown teams out,

822
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Speaker 3: They've won the tight games.

823
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Speaker 1: Like they can play offses by three points.

824
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 3: They can play any style you want to play.

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Speaker 1: I think that's true. I think if it's you're gonna

826
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Speaker 1: take away our run game and sell out, well we're

827
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Speaker 1: gonna take it. We're gonna tack you over the top.

828
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Speaker 1: Vice versa is absolutely true. I don't see a ton

829
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Speaker 1: of weaknesses on the team, you know, I mean, like

830
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Speaker 1: to nitpick, is mid range passing or middle of the

831
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Speaker 1: field passing a strength of this team? No, but it's

832
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Speaker 1: not terrible, right, I mean, like what do they do poorly?

833
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Speaker 1: And I think it's especially true with the defense, you know,

834
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Speaker 1: like if you want to go about attacking this defense. Yeah,

835
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Speaker 1: they're gonna have lulls. I mean there's a series here

836
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 1: there every in every game where the team moves football.

837
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:56,360
Speaker 1: I mean that's the NFL.

838
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Speaker 3: You catch them in the right play, yeah, yeah, the

839
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:00,919
Speaker 3: right call, and it works all right.

840
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Speaker 1: But I don't know where I would choose to attack.

841
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:06,319
Speaker 3: To consistently attack it is, Yeah, all right, I don't

842
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 3: know if that's gonna work right.

843
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:10,759
Speaker 1: Or if you always have a special teams advantage. I

844
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 1: mean again, like turnovers and where where are you bad?

845
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Speaker 1: I don't see a lot of spots. Yeah, you know,

846
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 1: it's you know, styles make fights and all that. But

847
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 1: what kind of boxer would give the Steelers the hardest problems?

848
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:28,719
Speaker 3: I don't know, you know, I don't know. I mean

849
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 3: we're going to find out as the road continues to

850
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Speaker 3: narrow here, it seems.

851
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:35,400
Speaker 1: Going to the playoffs, they're going to face my Homes

852
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:39,879
Speaker 1: or you know, Allen or yeah, who knows. But yeah,

853
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:41,760
Speaker 1: there's gonna be good, good quarterbacks ahead.

854
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:45,240
Speaker 3: But you you know, you took a good Washington offense

855
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Speaker 3: and you kind of.

856
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Speaker 1: These are two of the best offenses coming in. Yeah,

857
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Speaker 1: and they really and they both had their worst day.

858
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean a lot happened.

859
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Now, I think Baltimore's offense better in Washington, but

860
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Speaker 1: this was clear nearly Baltimore's worst day of the year offense. Yeah,

861
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 1: not even close close by any way you look at it. Yeah,

862
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 1: any metric that you look at is their worst day.

863
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Speaker 1: Is Lamar still the MVP at this point because I

864
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Speaker 1: see Allens make this case.

865
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Speaker 3: I see people trying to spoil that was just a

866
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Speaker 3: bad game by Lamar. It was He's gonna play him

867
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Speaker 3: again later.

868
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Speaker 1: Oh, I know, I know. I'm just saying I don't

869
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Speaker 1: think that's enough for him to lose it. If they're

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Speaker 1: voting were.

871
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 3: Today, they're also seven and four now, I know they

872
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 3: have some bad losses and they're now the Ravens are

873
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:35,759
Speaker 3: the sixth seed in the AFC, which is interesting because

874
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:38,399
Speaker 3: the Steelers are the three seed in the FC. Now,

875
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:42,320
Speaker 3: they do have the tiebreaker right now over Buffalo. Okay,

876
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 3: because Buffalo has two conference losses. Buffalo lost, they got

877
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:48,359
Speaker 3: smoked by Baltimore.

878
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:50,480
Speaker 1: Yes, it seems like a long time ago.

879
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:53,880
Speaker 3: But the Ravens have lost to the Chiefs. The Ravens

880
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 3: have lost to the Texans, two of the teams that

881
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 3: are not the Texans.

882
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 1: They round the Bills.

883
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:03,720
Speaker 3: I meant the Bills. The Bills have lost to the Ravens.

884
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 3: The Bills have lost to the Texans.

885
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:07,880
Speaker 1: Who the worst teams to lose against. Yeah, because they

886
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:09,840
Speaker 1: don't get they don't play the Steelers. They beat the Chiefs,

887
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:14,320
Speaker 1: potential division winner. Right right, is Alan the one nipping

888
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:17,400
Speaker 1: on his heels the most right now for MVP? His

889
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 1: numbers aren't blow you away, But they beat the Chiefs

890
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:23,520
Speaker 1: and two and yeah, right right?

891
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:26,920
Speaker 3: If not him, I mean Golf. I know Golf had

892
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 3: the five interception game last week. Yeah, but he had

893
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:31,880
Speaker 3: a perfect passer rating yesterday.

894
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 1: Again they put up what five hundred and seventy five

895
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 1: yards offense or something crazy? And yeah, I.

896
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 3: Mean, who are they losing to the rest of the way.

897
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 1: The one that's sitting there going someone can help me.

898
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:47,720
Speaker 1: Burrow Burrow. Burrow is playing like an MVP.

899
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 3: But yeah, they have so if you look at what's

900
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 3: remaining on Detroit's schedule, Detroit at the Colts this week,

901
00:41:57,239 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 3: Packers at home. They already big game. They already beat

902
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 3: the Packers there, Yeah, twenty four to fourteen. Then they

903
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 3: play the Bills.

904
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:05,239
Speaker 1: Oh do that?

905
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 3: That's an interesting little game at home at home. So

906
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:12,120
Speaker 3: then Detroit, Yeah, maybe the Bills get dealt another loss there, yeah,

907
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 3: which would be interesting.

908
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 1: Right.

909
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 3: Then they're at the Bears at the forty nine ers and.

910
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:19,920
Speaker 1: Suddenly this seem like San Francis year.

911
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, it doesn't look like this is their year. And

912
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,760
Speaker 3: then they play the Vikings at home. So they've already

913
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:28,840
Speaker 3: beaten Minnesota in Green Bay at their places.

914
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 1: All right, Okay, I know they've played a high percentage

915
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:34,800
Speaker 1: of dome games. Yeah, there's one hundred per century.

916
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 3: They go outdoors one more time this season. They go

917
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:40,359
Speaker 3: to the Bears on December twenty second, what.

918
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 1: Do they have? Two losses?

919
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 3: Now the other game they have an outdoor game in

920
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:46,439
Speaker 3: San Francisco. But it's in San Francisco. The weather's gonna

921
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:46,800
Speaker 3: be fine.

922
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:50,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, And I know Goff is kind of a

923
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 1: fair weather quarterback. But the rest of that team is

924
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:54,480
Speaker 1: built fine for the elements. This is kind of an

925
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 1: anomaly that they have all these dome games. They've won

926
00:42:57,080 --> 00:43:01,520
Speaker 1: loss two one. I think they'll end up with three three.

927
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 1: I mean, they're favored at every one of those games.

928
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:05,719
Speaker 1: But they're not going to run the table, you know.

929
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 3: I probably not but I don't see him losing more

930
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:09,399
Speaker 3: than one more. I think.

931
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 1: I think there's not a brutal schedule there. But have

932
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:14,400
Speaker 1: a bad day here and there, you know.

933
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:16,719
Speaker 3: But if they go, they go fifteen and two or

934
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 3: fourteen and three. Yeah, and Golf continues to put up

935
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 3: the numbers that he has.

936
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's got a strong case.

937
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 3: It's a pretty strong case he does. If you look at

938
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 3: what the Ravens have.

939
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:27,360
Speaker 1: Left, I don't know what their schedule looks like.

940
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:32,359
Speaker 3: Chargers this week in Los Angeles, that's oh, that's far

941
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:34,319
Speaker 3: from gimme, especially if Rokwan Smith is.

942
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 1: Out talking about familiarity, I mean his brother brother.

943
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:38,319
Speaker 3: Then they play the Eagles at home.

944
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 1: Okay, I bet they're won in one in those.

945
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 3: At the Giants, I'm sorry, excuse me. Steelers at home

946
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:49,800
Speaker 3: Texans on the short week in Houston.

947
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:51,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, I hate that. But the Texans are a short

948
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:53,239
Speaker 1: week too. But but there at Christmas.

949
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 3: Day yeah yeah, and then they play finish up against

950
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:57,759
Speaker 3: the Browns at home to finish the Sea.

951
00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 1: Real confident there's at least two more losses pow.

952
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe three or four, but probably two, probably two

953
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 3: at least.

954
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:04,319
Speaker 1: Yeah.

955
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, Chargers this week game certainly a toss up, especially

956
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 3: if they don't have rokwand Smith.

957
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 1: Eagles are probably playing better than Ravens. Yeah, I don't

958
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 1: know if I'd say the Chargers are playing better.

959
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 3: So if they I mean, if they go eleven and

960
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:18,920
Speaker 3: six and don't win their division, I think that's what

961
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:22,320
Speaker 3: will happened. Can Lamar be the MVP?

962
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:26,400
Speaker 1: He can't have any more games like this one? I

963
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 1: mean if if his numbers are like they were going

964
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 1: into this game, Yeah, he can't be.

965
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 3: Got to play the Steelers again. That was ugly.

966
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 1: That was ugly yesterday.

967
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:41,279
Speaker 3: Again, he was ten of twenty five before that last yeah,

968
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 3: two minute drive.

969
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:45,479
Speaker 1: It didn't look like the same guy. And he really

970
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:48,400
Speaker 1: hasn't in any Steeler game I ever remember. Ever. I

971
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:50,280
Speaker 1: knew there were some drops the last time he played,

972
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 1: and there's things he can excuse away. But and Zay

973
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:55,880
Speaker 1: Flowers should have caught that one yesterday, And that happens

974
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 1: every team all the time. Pick a quarterback. Yeah, yeah,

975
00:44:58,239 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 1: that's not uncommon.

976
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 3: But the Steelers have positioned themselves well with that victory massively.

977
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:08,360
Speaker 1: No doubt about it. And you'd much rather be division champ,

978
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 1: you know, like if I'm the Ravens. I'm not thrilled

979
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:12,239
Speaker 1: about going to any of the potential other.

980
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:14,360
Speaker 3: Divisions, potentially having him go back to Pittsburgh in the

981
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 3: first round of the playoffs.

982
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 1: I forget who I was on with earlier. Today. I

983
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:21,759
Speaker 1: think if I'm the Ravens, I might rather go to

984
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 1: Kansas City than Pittsburgh. I might rather go to Buffalo

985
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:24,720
Speaker 1: than Pittsburgh.

986
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:27,960
Speaker 3: Buffalo you handled pretty easily. I definitely rather go to Buffalo. Yeah,

987
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:30,719
Speaker 3: it's just because those games. You know, if you play

988
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 3: the Bills, it's going to turn into.

989
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:33,880
Speaker 1: A shootout that's gonna be a lot of points.

990
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:36,880
Speaker 3: And I think that was Tomlin's kind of his thinking

991
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:38,759
Speaker 3: in this game. I don't want to get I don't

992
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:41,959
Speaker 3: want to get into a land battle in Asia because

993
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 3: you can't win that. Yeah, I'm not gonna play Lamar

994
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:45,880
Speaker 3: the way Lamar wants to play. I'm gonna make him

995
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 3: play the way I want him to play. And we're

996
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 3: gonna play that offensively the same way.

997
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think the Ravens did you a couple

998
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 1: favors that way too. Getting away from Henry, you know

999
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:57,360
Speaker 1: things like that too. And I know the Ravens oh

1000
00:45:57,440 --> 00:45:59,360
Speaker 1: line we thought was going to be really bad, and

1001
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:03,400
Speaker 1: it ended up being better than that. They were overmatched.

1002
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:06,360
Speaker 1: They're still not good enough in the trenches. Yeah, and

1003
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:09,359
Speaker 1: I know they had some pass rush, but on that

1004
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 1: side of the ball, the Steelers D line is way

1005
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 1: better than their O line. Yeah, and it's better than

1006
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:17,279
Speaker 1: every line they'll face, but it's still that gap would

1007
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:19,600
Speaker 1: markedly different. That might make me the most nervous if

1008
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 1: I was Harbaugh. Yeah. And the next Steeler matchup is

1009
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 1: their front is a lot better than we do to

1010
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 1: be a blocking.

1011
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know it's a problem.

1012
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is.

1013
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:29,880
Speaker 3: So we'll see a lot of football to play. Steelers

1014
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:31,880
Speaker 3: got to play the Browns on Thursday night.

1015
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 1: It's a losable game, folks.

1016
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:35,239
Speaker 3: They're one three and one their last five trips up there.

1017
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:37,399
Speaker 1: It's just the circumstances of it are terrible.

1018
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:39,960
Speaker 3: I don't like the circumstances either. Short week, but if.

1019
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 1: You go watch Saints Brown you'll feel pretty good about

1020
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 1: their chance.

1021
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:45,279
Speaker 3: You feel a little better. Yeah, you'll definitely feel a

1022
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:46,839
Speaker 3: little bit better. Let's get to a break that's going

1023
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:48,399
Speaker 3: to do it for our number one of the drive

1024
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:51,239
Speaker 3: here on the Steelers Audio Network, Matt and I'll be

1025
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Speaker 3: back with our number two. Right after this