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Speaker 1: Is that true? It is? It's very true. That is crazy. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: anything about the specifics of their relationship because they only

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Speaker 1: tell us what they want to tell us. And you know,

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Speaker 1: there have been rumors that he was seeing this person.

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Speaker 1: This person was blown out to go here he was

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Speaker 1: seeing courtside with another woman, and whatever, his relationship is

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Speaker 1: the least of my concerns. As all, I'll say, as

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Speaker 1: long as he continues to make great music, continue doing

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Speaker 1: great things. Love. Look, he could be really really modern,

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Speaker 1: kind of like the gays where they're in open relationships.

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Speaker 1: Maybe he's in an thin relationship. I mean, if he is,

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Speaker 1: I would love that for him. You know, respect especially

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Speaker 1: that's very taboo within like couples these days, and I

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Speaker 1: think that's something that a lot of them could benefit from.

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00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:14,520
Speaker 1: Honey Heath taboo, Yeah, exactly. And he he loves to

436
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Speaker 1: push the envelope. Hello the Joe Peel solo video, like

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00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:19,840
Speaker 1: he literally dressin drag and started a lot of different

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Speaker 1: conversations about masculinity and what it means to be a

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Speaker 1: partner to someone in all of these different music videos,

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Speaker 1: especially the metro gunto where he literally got married to

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Speaker 1: where this is why we probably living her life. Yeah, well, Mois,

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Speaker 1: this is why we love having in TWA. I think

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Speaker 1: you bring up such a good point, Like he is

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Speaker 1: a conversation starter, right, he is a thought starter. He's

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Speaker 1: definitely a thought leader in the Latino community, which is

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00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:49,719
Speaker 1: like dominated by so much toxic masculinity from every single angle.

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Speaker 1: And he did say this about their relationship. He said,

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Speaker 1: right now, we are best friends. If she wants to

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Speaker 1: have a boyfriend, she can because we're best friends. Just

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Speaker 1: as if I wanted to have a girlfriend, I can

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Speaker 1: because we're best friends. But neither one of them. Because

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Speaker 1: we're best friends, we can do anything we want because

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Speaker 1: we're best friends. Of course, neither one of them have

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Speaker 1: actually commented beyond that. And like you said, we just

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Speaker 1: saw at the Grammys that Gabiella's eyes are literally tattooed

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Speaker 1: on beneath those arms. So whatever they have, but let's

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Speaker 1: be honest, it's her eyes. I matched it up with

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Speaker 1: the video frame, micrmes, it is her eyes. It is

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Speaker 1: our job. Yeah, me and the TikTok slews did a matchup.

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00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:33,280
Speaker 1: We'd ran forensics on it. Those are Gabille's eyes. Okay,

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00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:35,720
Speaker 1: I like opened her iPhone with a tattoo. It works.

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Speaker 1: I just wanted to make that clear because the bad

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Speaker 1: Bunny fans will come for me if we don't give

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Speaker 1: them all of the information. So just you guys, know

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Speaker 1: they're not on the outs. There was no big fallout.

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Speaker 1: I think they are in their own place. And by

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Speaker 1: the way, not every relationship needs labels to exist and

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00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:55,040
Speaker 1: be successful. So we can take a page out of

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00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:57,399
Speaker 1: Bad Bunny's book and let's just not define anything like

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Speaker 1: that's the life I live to be honest, Yes I

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00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:05,399
Speaker 1: am undefined. I know, I know. But if he was

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00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:11,560
Speaker 1: Kendall Junner's boyfriend, hot fucking damn. Okay, it's that time

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Speaker 1: in the show where we want to the little game

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Speaker 1: with you boys. As we know you're a very skilled wordsmith,

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00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:18,679
Speaker 1: just like Bad Bunny, so we wanted to test your

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00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:22,159
Speaker 1: ability with a little game called lyric or Lie. Joseph

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00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:24,560
Speaker 1: is going to read a sentence and you decide whether

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Speaker 1: it's a real Bad Bunny lyric or just a made

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Speaker 1: up line. Okay, Joseph, give it to him. Are you ready?

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00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 1: Here we go. Okay, I guess I'm ready. Me and me. Okay,

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Speaker 1: you're not a nun and I'm not an altar boy.

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00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 1: You have me crazy. Your ass is really naughty. I

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00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:45,920
Speaker 1: think that's a Bad Bunny lyric. Oh Okay, I got one.

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00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 1: It's probably gonna be the only one I get. I'm ready.

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00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:51,919
Speaker 1: This is my favorite one because this is me. She

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00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:55,600
Speaker 1: brought her friends. They're not as pretty as her, That's

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00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 1: why she brought them. It's kind of giving that Drake

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Speaker 1: line in work, like if you had a twinn, I

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00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:04,919
Speaker 1: would still choose you. But I think that this is

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00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:11,640
Speaker 1: also a bad bunk laring. Oh my god, I love

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00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:16,240
Speaker 1: that line. If that's my line, bad bunny and co.

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00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:19,879
Speaker 1: If you guys want to borrow that line, I wrote that,

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00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:27,879
Speaker 1: oh credit on his next album. I'm obsessed with this line. Okakay,

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Speaker 1: in the private jet a fucking the sky today, I

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Speaker 1: want a whore a model. Um excuse me? That lyric

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00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 1: is wild. Yeah, I know. I was like, has he

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00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 1: said this before? I'm sure he has. This definitely sounds

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Speaker 1: like something he would say. What. No, I'm not going

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00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 1: to influence. He's just kidding. I take it back. I

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00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 1: feel like it doesn't even make sense, Like I like,

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00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 1: think about translate that into Spanish, like how did we

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00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 1: get from? Like what? No, y'all are just handing it

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00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:55,560
Speaker 1: to me at this place. I don't think this is

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Speaker 1: a bad bunch. Okay, let's see, Liana, I knew it. No, God,

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00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,320
Speaker 1: all right, you threw me off with that one. Come on, okay, okay,

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00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 1: one more, one more? All right? Our love drove into

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00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 1: Bugatti and you stayed on foot I threw you out.

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00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Okay, it's not a bad funny. So

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00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 1: what are you saying? It's a lyric or a lie?

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00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 1: Oh it's a it's a lie. It's no way. I

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00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 1: knew I was not going to do good at this game. Okay, okay,

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00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 1: let's do some Rihanna ones then I'm sure we'll get those.

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00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'll get every single one. Come on, I

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00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 1: need to read myself. Okay, voices before you go. We

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Speaker 1: want to wrap up with a look forward. So if

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Speaker 1: you could nominate any one artist as a future icon,

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Speaker 1: let's call them icons to watch or icons in the making.

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Speaker 1: Who is your pick? Okay? I know some people are

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Speaker 1: going to not agree with me, but I am a

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00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:06,960
Speaker 1: big Hossa La fan, and I think that she is

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00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 1: making some of the most incredible music too date. She

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00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 1: fuses page Throne with flamenco hip hop trap. It's just

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00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,600
Speaker 1: awe inspiring sometimes. I went to go see her last

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Speaker 1: year at Radio City and blown away by the production

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00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:29,480
Speaker 1: of the show and how she sings is just getting

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Speaker 1: chills just thinking about it. She is just an amazing singer.

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Speaker 1: So yes, I think that she has the opportunity and

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Speaker 1: the gusto all of the makings of an I coom.

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Speaker 1: So wow, that's a really good one. I love that,

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Speaker 1: and boy says, thank you so much for being here,

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Speaker 1: for sharing your passion, your knowledge, for putting up with

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Speaker 1: Joseph and I. Hey, we appreciate this has been so

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Speaker 1: much fun. Thank you, thank you. I appreciate it. Guys,

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Speaker 1: this was a great time. Yes, and thank you all

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Speaker 1: for listening, reviewing, and sharing and supporting Becoming an Icon.

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Speaker 1: We appreciate you, and stay tuned for our next icon.

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Speaker 1: On the next Becoming an Icon, She's one of the

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Speaker 1: most famous artists in the world. She's a singer, a dancer,

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Speaker 1: an actress, a force of style. And Glenn Moore our

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Speaker 1: next icon, Jennifer Lopez, join us as we take you

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Speaker 1: through a career that's so hard to define it can

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Speaker 1: only be called iconic. Becoming an Icon is presented by

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Speaker 1: Sonoro and Ihearts Michael Kuda podcast Network. Listen to Becoming

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Speaker 1: an Icon on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast, or wherever

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Speaker 1: you get your podcast