1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,440 Speaker 1: When you talk about toughness, and that's something I want 2 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:04,960 Speaker 1: to tap in, you know, with you on because obviously 3 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 1: coming into the NBA as you know, a teenager. You 4 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, the things you struggle with is 5 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 1: the physicality part of it, the professionalism part of it. 6 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 1: Now six years later, I see a different tyler, hero, 7 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 1: I see a more obviously tapped in mentally physically. 8 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:24,240 Speaker 2: Obviously, let's talk about your growth in that area. 9 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, because I believe that your 10 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:29,479 Speaker 1: growth on the basketball court is a translation of the 11 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 1: growth that you've had off the basketball court. 12 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:32,200 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 13 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 1: Just obviously creating a schedule for yourself, hitting the ground 14 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:38,280 Speaker 1: run and making this a lifestyle, being a father, you 15 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, just having other different things to 16 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 1: tap into. So just talk about your growth off the 17 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:43,480 Speaker 1: basketball court and how that's helped you on the court. 18 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:43,879 Speaker 3: Uh. 19 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, I met with everyone knows, I got two little 20 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 4: ones that you know, pushed me every single day to 21 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 4: be a better person, a better father, So that I 22 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 4: give my credit to those two. 23 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 2: They don't even know it yet, but those two for sure. 24 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 4: And then uh, just just being through so much you know, 25 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 4: like I said, I've been through a lot of my 26 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 4: six years already and not my career obviously personally hasn't. 27 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 2: Been exactly how I wanted it to. 28 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 4: I wanted obviously more, some more things to happen, and 29 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:17,479 Speaker 4: I felt like last year in the playoffs, I wasn't 30 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:20,760 Speaker 4: fully ready for the task at hand, which was, you know, 31 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 4: playing the one seed who have obviously won the championship. 32 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 1: She wasn't healthy, came back off injury. Let's see what 33 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 1: it is now. Yeah, you wasn't healthy. You came back 34 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:30,680 Speaker 1: off of injury. That's the hell of a situation to 35 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:31,839 Speaker 1: jump into coming off injury. 36 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. 37 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 4: But like I said, just going through all of that 38 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 4: and then this summer having a lot of downtime just 39 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 4: to reflect mentally on myself and just wanting to be 40 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 4: a better person. I think coming into the year, I 41 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 4: always try to be better than I was last year. 42 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 4: So that's the biggest thing is just continuing to try 43 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 4: to get better every single year. 44 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 2: And this is in my final form. 45 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 1: I feel like, I, oh, you got so much more 46 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 1: to do, so much more to do, so much more. 47 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 1: I love to hear that ship, bro, Yeah, you got 48 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:00,040 Speaker 1: so much more to do and so much time to 49 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 1: grow and work and just continue to do the things 50 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 1: you're doing though. 51 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 2: Show for sure. 52 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 1: I remember when this motherfucker first came to Florida. Him 53 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:12,639 Speaker 1: all he did was in the gym. That's all he did, 54 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 1: was spending every we was going to the club, he 55 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:18,079 Speaker 1: was going to the gym. He was going to the gym. 56 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 2: He had it. He was a real gym rat. Remember 57 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 2: we talked about having fake Jim rats. No, In fact, 58 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 2: he was. 59 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 1: The first person that I saw that was a real 60 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:26,919 Speaker 1: gym rat. And I see that in you really about 61 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 1: his work? Yeah, you really about your work, bro. I 62 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 1: mean some of them workouts and when I put up 63 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:32,919 Speaker 1: on you at seven am and you hitting the weights 64 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 1: and then you've been shooting at five am or six 65 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 1: am and all that ship like that. Like that was 66 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 1: like we've all had teammates that they go to the gym, 67 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 1: take the picture that they in the gym. 68 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:45,519 Speaker 2: Yeah, and walk back out the gym, exact fake gym rat. 69 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 2: You know who you are, You know who you are. 70 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 2: You got to say who you are, you know who 71 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:49,919 Speaker 2: you are. 72 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 3: I had to do that though I wasn't a talented. 73 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 1: You guys, killer, you lived, killer, you lived in the 74 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 1: gym how you do it, and you was ahead of 75 00:02:58,240 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 1: the game with that one. You was ahead of the 76 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 1: game with that one, for sure. But it wasn't ship 77 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:03,799 Speaker 1: to do in South Dakota or Milwaukee where y'all from. 78 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 1: So I would have to say, y'all didn't have much 79 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:06,799 Speaker 1: of a choice. 80 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 4: Mike, where's your your sons? Don't they in college now? 81 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 4: They play a little bit. 82 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:14,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, so my old my oldest just got done beating 83 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 3: up Kansas. Okay, look this week he's at Crazy right 84 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 3: and then my youngest, my youngest boys at high Point. 85 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, listen, I follow them boys on Instagram a little bit, 86 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:26,360 Speaker 4: show some love you. 87 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 1: He's he's being humble right now to taping his ass. 88 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 1: He's been humbled by his growth process. You know what 89 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 1: I'm saying, Because it ain't it ain't been. 90 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 2: It ain't been. 91 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 1: He talked about it and he's so cool and calm 92 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 1: and ship like it's been easy. But it has not 93 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 1: been an easy process for you know what I'm saying. 94 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 3: Make sure you let him understand, like here at the 95 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 3: O g S, humility is not what we're looking for. 96 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, listen, he's been he's being humble, right, now he's 97 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 1: had to deal with a lot, you know what I'm saying. 98 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 1: So obviously what what what people are seeing right now 99 00:03:57,880 --> 00:03:59,279 Speaker 1: is like the resilience. 100 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 101 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 1: He's been scarred, he's been battle tested now you know 102 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, and he's. 103 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 2: Figured it out, you know what I'm saying. So, but. 104 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 1: Having to be able to six Man of the Year, 105 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, that was not good enough 106 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 1: for certain people. Not being able to win in the finals, 107 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:19,839 Speaker 1: getting hurt, these different things, whatever, for whatever the reason, 108 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 1: have not been good enough. 109 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 2: For certain people. 110 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 1: What I always wanted to remind to him, and like 111 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 1: I said to him, I've said this before. What he's 112 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 1: accomplished in his six years people don't do in their careers. 113 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 1: But it has not been easy. It has not been easy. 114 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 1: We've had a lot of moving parts. When you come 115 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 1: into an organization where winning is the only option and 116 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 1: there's no in between, like role say, it's either winning 117 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 1: or misery, there is no in between. So when you 118 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:43,599 Speaker 1: come into a situation like that, you can often be 119 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 1: in positions where it might not be your fault all 120 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 1: the time, but if the team is not winning collectively, 121 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:51,279 Speaker 1: then you have to sacrifice as an individual. And I've 122 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 1: been in that situation. He's been in that situation. But 123 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 1: that's not always the easiest thing to do when you 124 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:59,279 Speaker 1: are a young, ambitious basketball player. I think too, like 125 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 1: when you're coming in to the league, like a lot 126 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:05,720 Speaker 1: of guys, especially young guys, especially today, all dudes are. 127 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 2: Think about, let's come into the league. I want to 128 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 2: get drafted. 129 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 4: I want to just score score score, put up twenty 130 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 4: twenty five to thirty, whatever it is. And like you said, 131 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 4: being drafted to the heat of winning culture, winning program 132 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 4: where they want winning so much that you as a 133 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 4: young guy, They're not bringing you in to just score 134 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 4: score score. 135 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 2: We want to develop you. 136 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:27,359 Speaker 4: We want to make sure you're doing all the little 137 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:29,039 Speaker 4: things so we can put you in a position in 138 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 4: four or five years where we can trust you and 139 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 4: continue to grow that way. 140 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 1: I watched him play pick and roll for thirty minutes, 141 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 1: guarding on defense, getting over the screen, getting back in 142 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:42,160 Speaker 1: front of the ball, getting around the screen, getting under 143 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 1: I watched him have to guard a cross screen and 144 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 1: play postline defense for thirty minutes straight, just beating the 145 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 1: shit out of him in practice, and him coming back 146 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:52,360 Speaker 1: every day and not stopping getting better and better and better. 147 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 1: I watched that process. Some people can't do it. It's not easy. 148 00:05:58,000 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 1: You go find out a lot about yourself. 149 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 3: White boys can't guard nobody. That was That was definitely 150 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 3: the case with me. I didn't guard a motherfucker. But 151 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 3: it does make it hard, like being doing that because 152 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:12,039 Speaker 3: defensively in the NBA is a challenge because of some 153 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 3: of those things, for sure, But just keep working pieces 154 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:14,920 Speaker 3: in the work, man. 155 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:17,839 Speaker 2: Exactly was it of a discouragion? Was it ever? Was 156 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 2: it ever discouragion? 157 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 1: Just every day just coming in And I know because 158 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:26,279 Speaker 1: I was there putting, I. 159 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 4: Wouldn't say the work was discouraging. But I think when 160 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 4: you put so Mu's work in, you want the results 161 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 4: right away. You know what I'm saying, like, Yo, what 162 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 4: what's happening? Why aren't I doing this? 163 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 2: This, that or that? 164 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:38,840 Speaker 4: And as a young guy, you sometimes can get caught 165 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:41,039 Speaker 4: up in that ship. And that's that's where I grew. 166 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 4: It's like, I'm not really worried about where like. 167 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 2: The results of the results. 168 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 4: And you know, if you're putting the work and you 169 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 4: can rely on the work, you're living good. You're doing 170 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 4: everything by the books, doing everything the right way, like 171 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:53,480 Speaker 4: just live with the results. 172 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 2: Love that, love that. I just had to be honest. 173 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 1: He was being a little humble, but he been through 174 00:06:58,000 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 1: the motherfucking grinder to get to where he is. 175 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 2: We've been through the grounded for sure. We've been working 176 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 2: for sure. Now, hey, let me let. 177 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 3: Me ask you something I pulled. I just pulled up 178 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 3: something here, and I want to make sure I'm right 179 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 3: making music with Kendrick Nunn made music. 180 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 2: Maybe ghats made music. I missed that. I ain't getting 181 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 2: where'd you pull that up? At coach? 182 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 3: I'm Antenna's out now? I got the years of the street. 183 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 1: Those was the baby goats we had back in the day. 184 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 1: We had the baby goat him and came down with 185 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 1: the baby goats. 186 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 2: But I ain't know they made a goddamn music video. No, 187 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 2: we ain't making music. Was wrapping and tapping and we 188 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 2: was rapping a little bit. 189 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 4: Came and had me, Uh, he had me wrapping in 190 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 4: the studio a little bit, my rookie year. 191 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 1: That's crazy and I ain't getting pull up big old 192 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 1: g up in there up in there with listen and 193 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 1: don't think I forgot too motherfuckers. Y'all want to show 194 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 1: the loud but I didn't catch. Make sure y'all put 195 00:07:57,080 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 1: the one up I did to all your motherfuckers back there. 196 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 1: I like to pull up lips randomly and crack jokests. 197 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 3: Put that live. 198 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 1: Again, everybody, let that pull up the clips and crack jokes. 199 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 1: Make sure you put the good one up there too, 200 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 1: Not the one that just entertained you. Put the one 201 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 1: up there that entertains me. 202 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 3: Show the show the good one. Definitely show the good, 203 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 3: but show the other one again to that damn kill. 204 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 1: Okay, then show Mike and his badass back his last game. 205 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 1: That's what we're gonna do. We got fifteen minutes to 206 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 1: wait for him to get down the court. 207 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 2: He's still hit like six threes. He did his six 208 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 2: threes with his shoe off. 209 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 3: We'll be in season three of the podcast by the 210 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 3: time you see my. 211 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:37,319 Speaker 1: Hey football fans, there's only a few short weeks left 212 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 1: in the season, and we've got some exciting wild card 213 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 1: games to look forward to. 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