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Speaker 1: Hey everyone, it's the Queen of extream crank scene and.

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Speaker 2: You are listening to Eyes up here on the iHeart

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Speaker 2: Rating Network or Forever Dating podcast. As always, I am

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Speaker 2: enjoyed by my co host Chad, who is dancing listening

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Speaker 2: to Chad.

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Speaker 1: What's in that head of yours? Music in my head?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 1: Okay?

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Speaker 2: Is it is?

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Speaker 4: It?

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Speaker 1: Is it a good song?

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Speaker 5: At least it's extreme. It's a little iHeart Radio, a

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Speaker 5: little bit of everything going in my head right now, Mexico.

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Speaker 1: I'm Bob all right. I like it. What's what's happening

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Speaker 1: in your world? Anything? Oh?

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Speaker 6: Man?

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Speaker 5: On this side of the Kingdom, the Chadster is doing

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Speaker 5: pretty good. Yeah, there's a sitting tight again. The weather

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Speaker 5: is nice. The Chadster's out and about softball seasons in

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Speaker 5: full swing. Cannot complain one single bit if I did,

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Speaker 5: Nobody wants to hear it.

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Speaker 1: Do you think your h your kids are gonna win

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Speaker 1: this year?

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Speaker 5: Blue out the other team twenty seven to ten the

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Speaker 5: other night. So looking pretty good now. Coach Chadster is

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Speaker 5: on a roll right now.

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Speaker 1: Nice. Nice, Well.

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Speaker 2: I wanted to uh wanted to put out this episode earlier.

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Speaker 2: Usually we'll wait till Tuesday, but this was this is

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Speaker 2: a hot topic that we're gonna go over, and we

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Speaker 2: needed to put it up a sap. If you are

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Speaker 2: a fan of Dark Side of the Ring or a

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Speaker 2: fan of Sandman, you're gonna want to listen to this

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Speaker 2: whole episode because we're gonna have the legend himself coming

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Speaker 2: on in just.

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Speaker 1: A few minutes.

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Speaker 2: But I did not want to wait, because then all

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Speaker 2: the other vultures are going to get their stuff up

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Speaker 2: and we have the man himself on the show. It's

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Speaker 2: not like it's just too schmuck's talking about the episode, you.

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Speaker 6: Know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: We literally have Sandman or Hackey poo as I like

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Speaker 2: to call him, coming on.

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Speaker 1: So I thought it would be cool to go over

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Speaker 1: what we watched.

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Speaker 2: And you know, there's a lot of it that I

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Speaker 2: already knew, and there was some of it that he

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Speaker 2: told me, like in bits and pieces, but the episode.

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Speaker 1: Filled in the blanks for me. And I'm like, as

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Speaker 1: I'm watching that, I'm like, oh my god, yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: that story he told me when we were going to

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Speaker 1: Queens one.

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Speaker 2: Day, or that's the story I remember from the locker room,

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like everything came and fell

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Speaker 2: into the right place and.

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Speaker 1: Now I know everything. So it was very enlightening.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, say the least a guy that has so much

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Speaker 5: legend around him and seem like, whenever you watch something

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Speaker 5: or you listen to a podcast about ECW, there's some

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Speaker 5: Sandman story that comes around, and you've told you've said

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Speaker 5: so many of them, and you've documented so many of

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Speaker 5: your trips with him. Yeah, just him as a whole

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Speaker 5: is a vlog, right, Just watching him is a vlog

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Speaker 5: that the story that The Dark Side of the Ring portrayed.

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Speaker 5: It's just it's fascinating. So when they announced this, I mean,

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Speaker 5: this was what you're listening to. Now, this was concepted

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Speaker 5: that day when they announced it because we had to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and some of this might be repetitive if you

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Speaker 2: watch the episode, but I'm going to.

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Speaker 1: Try to, you know, pull a little more out of

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Speaker 1: him that you didn't.

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Speaker 2: Get to hear on the show. So, and he's very

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Speaker 2: open and honest, he doesn't hold back. He'll he tells

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Speaker 2: it like it is, and he'll tell he'll tell us everything.

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Speaker 2: So why don't you go and send the link over

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Speaker 2: and okay, and as soon as he popped on, we're

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Speaker 2: gonna we're gonna start this because I actually wrote down

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Speaker 2: the questions are really good, and I want to get

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Speaker 2: more out of the man himself.

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Speaker 5: I gotta say, I think they said a dark side

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Speaker 5: of the ring profanity record.

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Speaker 1: That was a lot of cursing.

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Speaker 2: You know, I want I wish I knew what the

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Speaker 2: was this the last episode of this season. Okay, So

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Speaker 2: I wish I knew which episode was the biggest draw m.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we can probably find that out afterwards.

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Speaker 1: I really want to know.

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Speaker 2: I think I might rip him before he comes on,

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Speaker 2: and I'm going to tell him, you know, I saw some.

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Speaker 1: Of the numbers and you were the lowest rated. I

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Speaker 1: want to see what.

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Speaker 5: He says, Brutus Beefcake, come on. Everybody who's waiting for

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Speaker 5: the footage of that face getting ripped off?

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Speaker 1: Everybody? Everybody beat you? Heck, you were last dead, last,

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Speaker 1: you loser.

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Speaker 5: That's what This season was just emotional, a roller coaster

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Speaker 5: if you're a wrestling fan, because I mean they really

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Speaker 5: just told some crazy stories. He did, He did makes

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Speaker 5: face get ripped off to just families getting torn apart.

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Speaker 5: So up here we go. Up, here's one familiar face.

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Speaker 6: You have this thing out girl.

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Speaker 1: You're good, You're good. Listen.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to pop your bubble, burst your bubble.

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Speaker 2: But they they put their the numbers out, the ratings out.

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Speaker 2: You were the lowest rated episode this season.

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Speaker 1: How did that happen? I knew I fop you.

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Speaker 6: You were so serious. I don't want to bre Once

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Speaker 6: you said that, I was like, she's gonna hit you

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Speaker 6: with something good. I don't know what.

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Speaker 2: Look, I don't know what the numbers are. I enjoyed

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Speaker 2: the hell out of that episode last night. The only

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Speaker 2: critique I have is that I wasn't and I wasn't interviewed.

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Speaker 1: But you know, next time.

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Speaker 6: They honestly, they got enough on the They left enough

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Speaker 6: clips on the on the floor of the studio there

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Speaker 6: that they could have another two full episodes of me.

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Speaker 1: What is there something they didn't touch base with? Is

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Speaker 1: there a story? Right?

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Speaker 6: So? For example, are we on right? Now?

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Speaker 1: We're on?

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Speaker 6: Okay? The biggest example was one of my best friends

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Speaker 6: that I started going to the Philadelphia Spectrum with. They

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Speaker 6: when I got thrown out of this Philadelphia Spectrum for

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Speaker 6: on the back. Yeah, so they didn't. They didn't touch

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Speaker 6: on so many things Todd. They interviewed Todd the same way,

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Speaker 6: Phronsie the same way. And you see a couple of

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Speaker 1: Right. Well, let's let's get believe it or not. I

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Speaker 2: Yay, I did, and I have them on my phone

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Speaker 2: and I'm going to go over each one of them

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Speaker 2: because I was just telling Chad. I said, you know,

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Speaker 2: as much as I have hung out with you and

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Speaker 2: we've traveled up and down these roads together and stuff,

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Speaker 2: you would tell me stories, right, but you wouldn't tell

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Speaker 2: me like the whole story. And when I watched the episode,

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Speaker 2: I'm like, that's the story he was telling me in

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Speaker 2: the car when we were going to Queen's or we

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Speaker 2: And then I watched that. I'm like, that's the same story,

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Speaker 6: My brain lives on six second intervals A lot of

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Speaker 6: times I'm like, all right, what was I talking about again?

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Speaker 6: Squirrel and me and her in the car is like,

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Speaker 6: you're you're my.

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Speaker 1: Favorite travel partner.

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Speaker 2: Advice now, But the first thing I need to ask

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Speaker 2: you because this you might have told me and I either.

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Speaker 1: Forgot or I was like he's full of shit. Prostitution.

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Speaker 6: It's like, so, what.

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Speaker 1: Elaborate on that you talk?

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Speaker 6: Oh, it was just a Chippendale's.

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Speaker 4: They opened up a twenty five one hundred people nightclub

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Speaker 6: I just get out of jail. I've been out of

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Speaker 6: thing you know, I'm in this big club on a

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Speaker 6: producer director of the Chippendales seize me, and next thing

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Speaker 6: you know, I'm a Chippendale.

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Speaker 1: Did you bang her in that office. No, all right,

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Speaker 1: that's a letdown.

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Speaker 6: No, But another part of the story that you didn't

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Speaker 6: this is a guy that's going to be your trader.

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Speaker 6: All right, this guy's going to be a choreographer. We

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Speaker 6: And then she goes, but Nick Denrio's here, and he's

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Speaker 6: the guy that invented the chipp of Dales. I want

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Speaker 1: Is Nick the guy who hung himself in jail?

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Speaker 6: No? No, no, Nick Denario? It was a mob head.

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Speaker 2: Probably, Oh okay, okay, because I saw the Chippendale gimmick

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Speaker 6: And that's not how I remember. But I'm not saying

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Speaker 1: All right, all right, so let's go back prostitution. You

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Speaker 2: I'm going to sleep with you tonight. I'm going to

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Speaker 1: So I'm not going to sleep twelve.

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Speaker 2: No, I would pay you one hundred dollars. But then

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Speaker 2: you would have to take forty five dollars to get

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Speaker 6: Oh, they would pay for the room. All that was

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Speaker 6: for a credit card. I'm like, lady, I'll meet you here,

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Speaker 7: So oh so okay, So the mistress came with the

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Speaker 7: and then had to give you one hundred dollars.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you had whatever they wanted, Oh my god,

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Speaker 1: for how long?

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Speaker 6: Yeah? But you got to understand, I think you were

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Speaker 6: paying it's like six eight dollars an hour, and you're

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Speaker 6: only working. You're working five hours a night for for Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday.

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Speaker 6: And then if you were lucky, you got to go

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Speaker 6: you more to work up there, right, and so, but

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Speaker 6: you have to make money the way you could.

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Speaker 1: So how many ladies would you be with?

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Speaker 6: No, probably like maybe twenty total and six more night.

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Speaker 2: No, twenty total, twenty your whole career, your whole career.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you didn't feel well. You got to understand, there's

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Speaker 6: Never? Once in my life?

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Speaker 6: Never want them. I was so lucky.

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Speaker 6: You should be all right. You gotta understand, some of

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Speaker 1: It said Pulsations in this was that where you were?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Do you know? I was Penny Pulsations at my first show.

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Speaker 1: I was. We wrestled there.

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Speaker 6: What Yeah, we did I have anything to do with it,

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Speaker 1: I was Penny Pulsations.

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Speaker 6: It was. I must have told everybody the story that night.

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Speaker 2: Thank god it didn't last because and you know, you know, hey,

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Speaker 6: God. Another thing it was about John Taffer was the

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Speaker 6: Well, that's exactly what I was thinking.

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Speaker 1: With her dying, that's terrible.

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Speaker 2: That's a terrible story, all right, So the prostitution didn't

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Speaker 1: I had to get into that. The next topic.

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Speaker 2: Was you meeting Lorie Peaches, right, mm hmm, and she

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Speaker 1: You do the right thing, and you want to marry

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Speaker 6: Baby Mary in her anyway, whether she was pregnant or not.

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Speaker 2: I was going to say, did did the shotgun wedding

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Speaker 6: Well, no, it was technically no the way they edited it,

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Speaker 6: I never start that story out the way I heard

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Speaker 6: I want him there with us. That was important to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because everybody that I talked to that does Dark Side,

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Speaker 1: They edited it to where I said this, but I

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's kind of hard to know, like what is

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Speaker 6: Picked it up. But I would I would pick it

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Speaker 6: Their editing is so good. I guess right now that

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Speaker 6: which is which is? I guess everybody does it now.

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Speaker 1: I mean, in one hand, on one hand, it's genius,

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Speaker 6: And that's yeah, Well, then anybody that does an episodes

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean, why he's smart.

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Speaker 2: The best line I ever heard you say was I

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Speaker 2: was born as a gimmick. Yeah, that one last thing

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Speaker 6: I pop.

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Speaker 2: That's the one thing I popped huge for out of

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Speaker 1: It was just way too much. Who came up with

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Speaker 6: Well? I had to because I started in June nineteen ninety.

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Speaker 6: Joel good Heart because it was still Try State West Alliance.

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Speaker 6: and it wouldn't have mattered anyway. The USWA is less

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Speaker 6: Lawler's just searching for anything, anybody cheap that wants to

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Speaker 6: So with the samman it was my good heart but

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Speaker 6: Will go down to delar Avenue. It's one o'clock in

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Speaker 6: Because the place was rock lobster. It was like, you know,

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Speaker 6: and took the surfboard off. The next thing you know,

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Speaker 2: So if Paul didn't say you were getting the surfboard

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Speaker 2: broke over your head that night, would you have continued

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Speaker 2: like did it ever occur to you?

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Speaker 1: I have to get rid of this gimmick.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, but but you know what the funny thing is,

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Speaker 6: like Todd Gordon buds me. He's like hack. I was

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Speaker 6: the one that was telling Paul uh that that surfer

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Speaker 8: I didn't give him credit on the show last night.

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Speaker 8: I give him all the credit, but it really goes

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Speaker 1: I love it.

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Speaker 2: There's the I wish I could have Todd and Paul

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Speaker 1: I don't remember where we were.

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Speaker 2: I want to say somewhere in New York, but I

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Speaker 2: Missy on her Rory shot on her and like.

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Speaker 1: Was that okay?

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Speaker 2: Before you tell the story, was that when Missy came

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Speaker 1: I remember what she had she couldn't.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I know that story exactly because it was it

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Speaker 6: Lulu Temple in Norristown, Plymouth meeting Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 1: Okay, okay, he.

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Speaker 6: Got her lipstarn and the ring and me and Missy

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Speaker 6: another time. My stories have stories right here. So so

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Speaker 6: Missy gets her uh gets your lips on and they

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Speaker 1: Because she yeah done.

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Speaker 6: Yeah. So the ring was late that night, so me,

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Speaker 1: Passed to the other stories. So Laurie.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, so see, Laurie knew something was going on. She's

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Speaker 1: So what I mean, I didn't see that match, but

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Speaker 2: Remember somebody going she broke her arm. She broke Missy's arm,

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Speaker 2: Laurie's shooting on Missy.

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Speaker 1: She broke her arm.

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Speaker 6: I forgot all about that part. Yeah, missus own arm?

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Speaker 1: What what did she?

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Speaker 2: Like?

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Speaker 1: What happened?

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Speaker 6: She just started whacking her with the cane like wait, wait, wait,

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Speaker 1: So I mean, did after that, did you admit you

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Speaker 6: I don't. I don't remember, but she knew it and

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Speaker 6: I knew she knew it, and she got me back.

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Speaker 2: Okay, okay, all right, I just remember that story popped

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Speaker 2: Like I thought, maybe she just got her and cranked

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Speaker 1: How long after that were you guys married for Oh.

444
00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:36,400
Speaker 6: Dude, we were married for way longer than we were together.

445
00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:41,040
Speaker 6: We were probably married technically married for like fifteen years,

446
00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:46,960
Speaker 6: but we were together like maybe a decade Okay, maybe more.

447
00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:50,359
Speaker 2: Okay, So they they, while we're talking about her, might

448
00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:51,480
Speaker 2: as well get into it today.

449
00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:53,480
Speaker 1: Got into the part where.

450
00:22:54,760 --> 00:23:00,280
Speaker 2: She starts saying, you're starting to take steroids because is

451
00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:02,920
Speaker 2: you know, your hardcore hack now you're in w CW

452
00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:03,920
Speaker 2: blah blah blah.

453
00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:05,880
Speaker 1: They changed you as a person.

454
00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:10,199
Speaker 2: It wasn't the other, It wasn't everything else that you

455
00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:11,679
Speaker 2: ever took in her life.

456
00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:20,760
Speaker 6: This is there, you know what I'm saying. Okay, at

457
00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:24,920
Speaker 6: least she was just I mean, I was so horrible

458
00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:28,000
Speaker 6: to her as a husband, you know what I mean.

459
00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:31,600
Speaker 6: And and the kids were always more important than her,

460
00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:33,600
Speaker 6: and she knew that. And I always made sure any

461
00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:35,760
Speaker 6: girl in my life knew that that you will never

462
00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:39,760
Speaker 6: be more important than that child. And that's exactly how

463
00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:40,280
Speaker 6: I feel.

464
00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:43,439
Speaker 2: I agree with that statement, but I don't agree with

465
00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:47,600
Speaker 2: the abuse. And like I feel, okay, I'm just I'm

466
00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:50,480
Speaker 2: just telling you as a woman, I feel like I

467
00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:54,439
Speaker 2: know you right. You're one of my best friends. I

468
00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:57,320
Speaker 2: love you to death. If I didn't know you the

469
00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:59,760
Speaker 2: way I know you now, i'd be like, I hate

470
00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:01,439
Speaker 2: that dude.

471
00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:04,920
Speaker 6: I hated that guy once, Like right now, I hate

472
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:07,399
Speaker 6: that guy. You know what I'm saying. But I hated

473
00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:15,520
Speaker 6: that guy for a while. You know. But everything's in retrospect.

474
00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:19,760
Speaker 6: It's when you're thirty years old, life is totally different

475
00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:22,879
Speaker 6: than when you're sixty years old. The older you get,

476
00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:26,760
Speaker 6: the more things come into focus. Hey, you might need

477
00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:31,840
Speaker 6: readers glasses, like I got here somewhere to read the newspaper.

478
00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:36,119
Speaker 6: But your your insight gets gets way more sharpened that

479
00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:38,840
Speaker 6: the older that you get, and you start to realize

480
00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:43,160
Speaker 6: how much that what you what I was doing, it

481
00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:49,200
Speaker 6: was affecting so much more than my short sighted hacking.

482
00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:51,560
Speaker 6: It was just like, how do I please myself for

483
00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:54,359
Speaker 6: the day for a lot of that time, you know

484
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:58,720
Speaker 6: what I mean. And and and it's kind of natural.

485
00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:03,080
Speaker 6: I would think that anybody that when your career is

486
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:06,719
Speaker 6: rising like that, that you need to be more focused

487
00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:10,840
Speaker 6: on it or or more in tune to it, or

488
00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:12,320
Speaker 6: I'm making an excuse.

489
00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:15,720
Speaker 1: Well I just on thee.

490
00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:20,679
Speaker 6: Yeah no, No, it was focus of what's real in

491
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:23,639
Speaker 6: life sometimes because you're so wrapped up in your career.

492
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:26,600
Speaker 6: All right, Yeah, that's that's kind of summed it up

493
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:26,959
Speaker 6: for me.

494
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:29,760
Speaker 1: What's what's important in life?

495
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:33,560
Speaker 2: That because back in the day, you're so fixated on

496
00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:35,760
Speaker 2: how do I get myself over, how do I stay

497
00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:36,160
Speaker 2: on top?

498
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:38,520
Speaker 1: This is all I know. Blah blah blah blah blah.

499
00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:41,840
Speaker 2: I was single when I worked there. I didn't have

500
00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:43,480
Speaker 2: my family, you know what I mean.

501
00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:45,280
Speaker 1: So it is me, me, me, me me.

502
00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:49,719
Speaker 2: But now, like I would die for my family, and

503
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:53,960
Speaker 2: I feel like that's that's you know, And I don't

504
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:58,240
Speaker 2: know that other person because I never I hung out

505
00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:00,280
Speaker 2: with that shows and stuff back in the day. But

506
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:03,280
Speaker 2: I never like with Todd and were even and all

507
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:05,639
Speaker 2: those guys like go into the house and stuff. I

508
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,399
Speaker 2: didn't do that, Like I wasn't in that circle, so

509
00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:09,880
Speaker 2: I didn't see that side.

510
00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:12,720
Speaker 1: Of you, you know what I mean? To see that

511
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:14,160
Speaker 1: it hurt my.

512
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:17,800
Speaker 6: Heart, but I know it's my heart now. I under

513
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:21,760
Speaker 6: you're so blind that I could be so blind and

514
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:26,200
Speaker 6: so selfish and really selfish. It's selfish.

515
00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:28,920
Speaker 1: You've changed, You've changed.

516
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:31,560
Speaker 6: Well, because the older you get me hopefully, the little

517
00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:33,800
Speaker 6: wiser you get, you know what I mean, you start

518
00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:36,640
Speaker 6: to realize how selfish you really were. And I could

519
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:39,960
Speaker 6: have had it both ways, but I did it because

520
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,440
Speaker 6: I was a half ast drug addict. Well, I could

521
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:44,560
Speaker 6: have had it both ways because so many other guys

522
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:47,080
Speaker 6: could have it both ways, you know what I mean.

523
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:48,440
Speaker 6: But I screwed all that up.

524
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:53,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I'm not fault. I'm not beating a dead horse.

525
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:54,280
Speaker 1: It's over.

526
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:58,000
Speaker 2: I'm just saying the person that you are now, I

527
00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:02,000
Speaker 2: don't see any tree of that guy whatsoever.

528
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:06,439
Speaker 1: And I yeah, and I like. I like the person

529
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 1: you are now.

530
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:08,160
Speaker 6: That's so right.

531
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:10,440
Speaker 2: I'm kind of putting you over, which I hate putting

532
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:14,879
Speaker 2: you over. Yeah, I kind of you over for that.

533
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:24,159
Speaker 2: Let's go to my little boyfriend Tyler too. I always

534
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 2: tell him they were so nea to.

535
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:27,760
Speaker 1: Me in the locker room. Whose he was.

536
00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:29,919
Speaker 6: He was just as little ones.

537
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:33,560
Speaker 2: But you told him to act like that, and I

538
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:36,640
Speaker 2: unders that. Now me and TI have a great relationship.

539
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 2: The one thing that I never got to ask him

540
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:42,680
Speaker 2: or ask you. He's six seven years old, so he's

541
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:44,520
Speaker 2: in kindergarten first rate or.

542
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:48,240
Speaker 6: Something like that, right, Yeah, but I held him back

543
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 6: because I want I didn't put him into kindergarten until

544
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:53,440
Speaker 6: he was six years old because I wanted that one

545
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,199
Speaker 6: more year of maturity for him playing sports as a

546
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:57,440
Speaker 6: senior in high school.

547
00:27:57,480 --> 00:27:58,160
Speaker 1: At the edge.

548
00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:00,480
Speaker 6: That's you know, that's how I think. As I was

549
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 6: in eighteen until I graduated. He was eighteen the first

550
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:06,199
Speaker 6: day of school, so he was the oldest kid in

551
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 6: the class.

552
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:10,120
Speaker 2: So regardless of how old he was, he's going to school.

553
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:16,240
Speaker 2: Are these kids like privy to are the parents? Does

554
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 2: anybody know what's going on?

555
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,119
Speaker 1: Is time putting himself over and selling eight by tens

556
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:26,120
Speaker 1: at recess? Like what's happening? Because that's what I would

557
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:26,400
Speaker 1: have did.

558
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 6: Well, we're on at two o'clock in the morning, you

559
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,960
Speaker 6: know what I'm saying. And I'm living in Broom Hall

560
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:37,720
Speaker 6: or Newtown Square, Pennsylvania. There wasn't a wrestling fan kind

561
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 6: of town, you know what I'm saying. So it took me.

562
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 6: It took a while longer until I got a little

563
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 6: bit more, till he and me got a little bit

564
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:46,520
Speaker 6: more famous, because I.

565
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:50,720
Speaker 1: Was gonna say, like little kids they talk, and so

566
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,240
Speaker 1: this here he is. He's on television.

567
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 2: He's you know, he's in the hottest angle at the

568
00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:58,680
Speaker 2: company season a long time.

569
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:02,120
Speaker 6: And he's not Sims played that in another first graders.

570
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:03,240
Speaker 1: Let me tell you something.

571
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 6: This great angle with this dude.

572
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 1: Ravens because look at look at the delivery in the

573
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 1: promos that he gave that little ship was right on

574
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:17,239
Speaker 1: the money. And like Scotty said, he goes. Scotty was like,

575
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 1: I could flub my lines and forget to give him

576
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 1: his cue and he would just say his line like that.

577
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 6: And the last spot that they showed him, we were

578
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:29,240
Speaker 6: in a park in New York City like its two

579
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 6: three a m oh. This is the same night we

580
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 6: had Miani naked on and he had all and he

581
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 6: was doing blue dust. So we went and got the

582
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 6: we got blue icing from acting. We put it all

583
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 6: over him and a cop happens to show up as mean,

584
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:53,440
Speaker 6: he's naked on this bridge, that one of those wooden

585
00:29:53,520 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 6: bridges with a seven year old kid, three o'clock in

586
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 6: the morning at a bark in New York. Well, but

587
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:06,240
Speaker 6: it was but there was a neighborhood around the park,

588
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 6: you know what I mean. It wasn't a central park

589
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 6: or whatever, so there was there was houses within like

590
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 6: one hundred and fifty yards of us. Yeah. Yeah, And

591
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 6: then we wake him up. He goes and stands on

592
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,400
Speaker 6: a rock. He's literally he's been awake for maybe a

593
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 6: minute or two. It's druzzoing out a little bit. We

594
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 6: pull them over. We say, stand on his rock and

595
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:30,200
Speaker 6: say this. When Ravid gets done, this one take them.

596
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:33,200
Speaker 6: He went right back in the car with sleep.

597
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 1: What was his salary, any toy.

598
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 6: That he wanted, and went there. We went there. Back

599
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 6: then it was Kmart, so I would take him to

600
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 6: Kmart every morning. That was like one of our deals.

601
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:48,360
Speaker 1: Okay, So he wasn't on the payroll. He didn't ask

602
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 1: s Debby for a wrestlers.

603
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:52,960
Speaker 6: He had eight million wrestlers and we still have him

604
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 6: in like big tubs and is it the basement of

605
00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:56,520
Speaker 6: this house? Yeah?

606
00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:59,120
Speaker 1: How could you not make him get in line and say, Daddy,

607
00:30:59,120 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 1: where's my draw?

608
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 6: That's funny.

609
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 1: I would have made a mass for a draw, all right?

610
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 1: What else? What else?

611
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 2: The cross angle, the crucifixion angle, you still have no regret.

612
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 6: No zero, absolutely zero, the.

613
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 2: Worst angle that has ever been portrayed in a wrestling

614
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 2: company ever.

615
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 6: Well, okay, so who's right now? The Palestinians are the Israels?

616
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying. It's it's it's a movie.

617
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 6: You're watching a movie.

618
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 9: But my point is, with the Palestinians and the Israels today,

619
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 9: all this strife that's happening and all these kids, I

620
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 9: gotta go a little bit of public general public knowledge

621
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:55,760
Speaker 9: on you right here, happening everywhere, and it's all over.

622
00:31:56,200 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 6: So I don't know how to So what was your

623
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 6: problem with it?

624
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 1: Couldn't you have just been the Sharks and the Jets

625
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 1: and like maybe.

626
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 6: Craco checks in the hall, like yeah, just come on,

627
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 6: and you're j the Jet all the way from your

628
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 6: first cigarette, your last valiant day.

629
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 1: I'll be honest with you. I hated that angle.

630
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 2: I was one of the people that went up the

631
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 2: pollen screens in his face and said somebody needs to apologize.

632
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 1: Now, I'm not saying I was.

633
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:36,479
Speaker 2: The main person who got Scotty to go out there

634
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 2: and apologize.

635
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 1: I was right, I was lit it.

636
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 2: I I just thought it was the most disrespectful thing

637
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:49,640
Speaker 2: I'd ever seen in the world, because even like, for me,

638
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 2: even if you don't believe, like so many people believe

639
00:32:54,720 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 2: in religion, and how holy and just say that is

640
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 2: to certain people and to me, it was made a

641
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 2: mockery of And I just I just found it to

642
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 2: be very poor to Okay.

643
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 10: Now, suppose you saw, suppose the Exorcist movie, all right,

644
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:21,560
Speaker 10: but suppose it happened on a movie screen, would you

645
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:23,000
Speaker 10: would you leave the movie theater.

646
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 1: I wouldn't watch it.

647
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 6: I did not watch the blasphements of it all.

648
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 2: What what I believe in makes me tend to not

649
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:37,240
Speaker 2: watch that stuff. And that's just me. And I'm not

650
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 2: you know, I'm not preaching.

651
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 1: I'm not saying I'm holier than now and I haven't

652
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 1: made mistakes blah blah blah. I'm just saying for what

653
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 1: I believe in as a you.

654
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 2: Know, as a Catholic, I guess it offended me, and

655
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 2: I just I just didn't I don't know what.

656
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 6: I supposed to pop that was the whole idea of it.

657
00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 6: I just wish you know what that that was our

658
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 6: Howard Stern. You know what I'm saying, The shot value

659
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 6: all that I knew that I was, I was at

660
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 6: least smart enough at that point in my career that

661
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:13,399
Speaker 6: the shock value is going to be great and that's

662
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 6: what you're.

663
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:15,880
Speaker 2: Looking for it and you were one hundred percent on

664
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:18,440
Speaker 2: the money with that. I will agree with you on.

665
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 1: That, gun.

666
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:21,799
Speaker 6: I also understand your point of view, and it's a

667
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:24,400
Speaker 6: lot of the there. There was crickets when that was happening,

668
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:27,279
Speaker 6: when they realized if you look at the people in

669
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 6: the background that are usually go crazy, they're all like.

670
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:33,879
Speaker 2: I've never I've never been in that arena where they

671
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:40,719
Speaker 2: didn't respond, like with an overwhelming war of applause or something.

672
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:43,360
Speaker 2: And I just I was right in front of the

673
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:46,360
Speaker 2: monitor and I said and I and I turned around

674
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 2: with this disgusting face and I just went Paul just

675
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:54,880
Speaker 2: and I said, yeah, I had said, somebody.

676
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 1: Out there to apologize right now. I said, that was

677
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:59,279
Speaker 1: the most disgusting thing I've ever seen. I let him

678
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 1: have it. He just took it. He didn't argue with me,

679
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 1: he didn't say too where he just took it and

680
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 1: I sat back. Yeah, I know.

681
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:10,440
Speaker 2: I look again, I'm just bringing it up because they

682
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 2: brought it up on the show and I had to

683
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:14,359
Speaker 2: relive it again. It I was hot and I was like, uh,

684
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:15,840
Speaker 2: I hate this angle.

685
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 1: I think I did it. I'm sorry.

686
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 6: Hey, that's the response that you want. Love it, hate it.

687
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 6: It's a response.

688
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 1: Help me, I know, I know. All right, Well, I

689
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 1: just wanted to see if you how bad or not.

690
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 2: I don't all right, what else, Chad?

691
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:37,239
Speaker 1: Do you have anything to mention?

692
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:41,320
Speaker 6: Because I got you be suspiciously quiet?

693
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:43,880
Speaker 5: Well, I like to when you guys talk, I like

694
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:45,239
Speaker 5: to just listen because.

695
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:48,280
Speaker 6: Now that's smart. Let it breathe, let us do it exactly.

696
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:50,400
Speaker 5: But no, but I see, But I just got of

697
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:52,440
Speaker 5: like they went to the w w E side and

698
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:54,719
Speaker 5: then it just kind of ended. So where where else

699
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 5: did they go with it? After they started talking to

700
00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:59,280
Speaker 5: you about the WWE side of your career?

701
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 1: Like what else did they talk?

702
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:05,440
Speaker 6: But when I got there, I knew in my head

703
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:08,719
Speaker 6: that it was a short lived thing. It was it

704
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 6: was an I'm thinking in my head maybe a year,

705
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 6: year and a half that uh, that that's going to

706
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:19,960
Speaker 6: happen and I have zero expectations when I'm going into

707
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 6: that except that the money's going to be great.

708
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:23,800
Speaker 1: Same.

709
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 2: Although you know, it's funny you said that because I

710
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:30,760
Speaker 2: remember being in a car with Al Snow very early

711
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 2: to where I when we signed our contracts, because we

712
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 2: all signed at the same time, right, Yeah, And I

713
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:38,280
Speaker 2: was riding with Al one weekend and uh, and I said,

714
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:40,840
Speaker 2: I'm not going to last six months here, and I

715
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:43,279
Speaker 2: just had that gut feeling, you know, and He's like,

716
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:45,799
Speaker 2: don't say that, and I go, I'm saying it.

717
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:46,799
Speaker 1: I'm calling it.

718
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:49,879
Speaker 2: I said, I signed for three years, I guarantee you

719
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 2: six months.

720
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 1: Six months to the day was when I got released.

721
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 6: I just were you really started thirty six one month contracts?

722
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 6: That's what that one it was.

723
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 2: I knew from the get go, but something told me like,

724
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:07,920
Speaker 2: this is your this is your last big run, this

725
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:09,360
Speaker 2: is your last particular.

726
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 6: It was me and me. I remember me heard Saboo

727
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 6: driving around somewhere northern Jersey with a garment and the

728
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:23,240
Speaker 6: garment sentence like three hotels that didn't even exist anymore.

729
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 6: They were like vacant parking lots.

730
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 1: The garment was probably a two inch screen. Yeah, I

731
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 1: was one of the first people to have one ever.

732
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 6: She was so proud of it too. Oh she's like, oh, look,

733
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 6: we don't need a map anymore.

734
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:42,360
Speaker 1: Because you remember, we wouldn't use map quest.

735
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 6: There wasn't paid in the aspect. People doing all these

736
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 6: guys today don't understand that we would know the town

737
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:50,880
Speaker 6: and and when we were driving in we would have

738
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:52,719
Speaker 6: we would go to like a seven to eleven and

739
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:54,880
Speaker 6: hope we would see a poster like they papered the

740
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 6: tarl to know where the building was. And then we'd

741
00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:00,080
Speaker 6: have to hand somebody you couldn't make it to a

742
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 6: building with help me get a couple of long turns.

743
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:03,759
Speaker 6: Back in the day, it just didn't happen.

744
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 11: We'd have almanacs, Oh, those ABC maps where you had

745
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 11: to go to one page to the other, and everybody

746
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:14,279
Speaker 11: got screwed up when the town was at the top

747
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 11: of this page and then you had to turn.

748
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:18,360
Speaker 6: If you're still going north, you had to turn the

749
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 6: page thirty six and then put that off at the bottom.

750
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 6: Red McNally, Yeah, now they used to call me hack

751
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:32,359
Speaker 6: McNally because at one point, even before that, they had

752
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 6: what was that thing that they came out the maps

753
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:38,719
Speaker 6: road maps, MapQuest, map quest, and then when we were

754
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:41,440
Speaker 6: on the road sometimes I would print them up for

755
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:43,400
Speaker 6: people and give them the people to get to the

756
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 6: to get to the next town. So I was like,

757
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:48,399
Speaker 6: hack mcdally, that's funny.

758
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:51,239
Speaker 5: But what else did they cover though with you that

759
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 5: didn't get put into the dark side?

760
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:57,280
Speaker 6: Uh? I told you my whole growing up, my whole

761
00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 6: history from when I was five years old watching it

762
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 6: and talking to my old friend and every time we

763
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:05,959
Speaker 6: went to the Spectrum. We went to the Spectrum every

764
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:09,279
Speaker 6: single solitary month for probably five years from the time

765
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 6: I was like sixteen till twenty one. Yeah, until I

766
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:13,799
Speaker 6: went in jail when I was twenty one.

767
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:16,919
Speaker 5: But even like I'm talking about from the post WWE side,

768
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:21,280
Speaker 5: it's like they hit WWE and then they were like, boo.

769
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:25,719
Speaker 2: Made it like your career ending it.

770
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, because they got to wrap up the show.

771
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 5: We want more of a PostScript though, give me something.

772
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:35,279
Speaker 6: Yeah, but I expect that, you know what I'm saying.

773
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:38,239
Speaker 6: They're trying to wrap it up and they're getting their

774
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:39,759
Speaker 6: their points across.

775
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:42,200
Speaker 5: And seventeen years ago the lot's happened.

776
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:44,920
Speaker 1: Come on, Yeah, we're still making towns. I mean, my

777
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:46,400
Speaker 1: god put the guy over w.

778
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 6: Yeah, well, at least who was it? Uh? Oh was

779
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 6: it raving? Or somebody said, well, at least he's still

780
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 6: doing it thirty five years later, which is a joke

781
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 6: when you think about it. For any that we're still

782
00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:02,800
Speaker 6: making money. People pay us to go have family reunions

783
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:08,319
Speaker 6: all over the country. The greatest thing ever, it really is.

784
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:13,400
Speaker 1: Look, we work really hard, and we we give a

785
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:14,840
Speaker 1: lot of ourselves at these.

786
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 6: Yeah we did.

787
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:19,920
Speaker 1: We say it all the time. We're like, we're the

788
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 1: luckiest people in the world. We are around with our

789
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:24,240
Speaker 1: best friends, we have a good time.

790
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:28,319
Speaker 2: We sign our name the paper and that's it.

791
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:31,439
Speaker 1: It's so great. I have I have one more question.

792
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:33,239
Speaker 6: I have a fireball shot here and there.

793
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:37,839
Speaker 2: I love it all right, the last time you got

794
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:43,000
Speaker 2: to rest it. According to the the TV show.

795
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 6: Right Us Party Birthday.

796
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 2: It was okay, I said earlier, I said this the

797
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:52,799
Speaker 2: swat team for me. Okay, I said, there's no way

798
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 2: this is a wrestling show. It looks like a banquet

799
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 2: hall at a wedding reception.

800
00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:01,480
Speaker 6: Yeah it was. It was this captain those seventy fifth birthday.

801
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:04,839
Speaker 1: So okay, So you weren't performing or anything you were.

802
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:07,239
Speaker 6: No, I was just there drinking thirty long island ice

803
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:10,720
Speaker 6: tease me foremost okay, literally.

804
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 2: Thirty It looked like you were at a well technically

805
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:16,800
Speaker 2: you were like supposed to be at a show, working

806
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:19,359
Speaker 2: or something. But then when they showed you, I said,

807
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:21,799
Speaker 2: no way, I said, the way that the tables.

808
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:25,880
Speaker 6: I started on a bank table with microphone.

809
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:28,239
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. I said, did they hire him

810
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 1: for a button? It's like, what's going on?

811
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 6: And the Albano was doing some of my bookings then,

812
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 6: so that's how I ended up there, and I'm like, yeah,

813
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 6: I want to be a captain seventy fifth birthday. So

814
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 6: me Gary to Pitbull and Big Joe that that big,

815
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 6: that six foot nine biker we used to hang out with.

816
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:49,719
Speaker 1: And then what happened? What did you get? An argument over?

817
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 6: Who knows that was shiit faced? But from the other

818
00:41:55,320 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 6: stories from everybody, because I don't really remember much. Imagine

819
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:03,640
Speaker 6: a bar down in South Philly. Uh, that's a that's

820
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 6: an end unit on a street, a rowhouse, so you

821
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 6: know how they have the bars underneath. Okay, so it's

822
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 6: kinda think about that. We're out back. He throws a

823
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 6: bottle at me, hits me right here in the head explodes.

824
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 6: Then he runs into the back door. So I start

825
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:22,279
Speaker 6: running down the street and I'm watching him through the

826
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 6: through the windows, running running through the bar. Now the

827
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 6: Jimmy Jimmy Vegas, No not Jimmy Vegas, is sothern guy Jimmy.

828
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 6: He was in the kitchen at the time. He said.

829
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 6: I came in and started throwing glances around, started getting crazy,

830
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 6: and then he goes And then I found the guy

831
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 6: hiding behind the door. I opened up the door and

832
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 6: he was and he was holding this like eighteen inch

833
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:50,920
Speaker 6: salt and pepper shaker, you know those over and the

834
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:53,919
Speaker 6: next thing, the swat team gave it.

835
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 1: So wait, you went after him to beat him up.

836
00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean obviously after he.

837
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 1: Threw the bottle at your head, you were still conscious.

838
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 6: Yeah. No, Nobody could believe that the thing exploded and

839
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 6: a million pieces too. Guys couldn't believe that I was

840
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:16,720
Speaker 6: chasing him. I was chased so like ten seconds afterwards.

841
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:22,360
Speaker 2: Oh god, So every story was said, there's not a

842
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:23,880
Speaker 2: good story that was left off the car.

843
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 6: All right, I got a story to tell you today.

844
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:31,279
Speaker 6: That dreamer reminded me of today. Okay, he goes, I

845
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 6: don't know if you remember this, but we were at

846
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:37,320
Speaker 6: the I have no idea this story. So I'm like,

847
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:38,719
Speaker 6: all right, what did I do? What did I do?

848
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 6: So we went to the Metallica concert in lat at

849
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:46,719
Speaker 6: the coliseum one hundred thousand people or whatever there was,

850
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:52,240
Speaker 6: and we're backstage. He gues, as soon as they started

851
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 6: playing the Sad Band song, you ran right out on

852
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:57,719
Speaker 6: stage of what draw up like that? Like the whole

853
00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:02,399
Speaker 6: place was there to see me. I would have been

854
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:05,359
Speaker 6: attend gee. I would have bet my life that I

855
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 6: was never on stage with mad How do I not

856
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:10,800
Speaker 6: remember that.

857
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 1: My head thirty long islands in that was.

858
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:21,600
Speaker 6: The captain lows? But who knows? Oh, Dreamer said, Well,

859
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:25,480
Speaker 6: back then seven eleven and wah wah had these big buckets.

860
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:31,239
Speaker 6: They were big, like uh plans to paper cups that

861
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:33,799
Speaker 6: held like forty five ronces. So I would fill the

862
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:36,520
Speaker 6: whole thing up with vodka and then uh and then

863
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:38,360
Speaker 6: top it off a little bit with mountain dew or

864
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 6: something like that. So here's the other part of the story.

865
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 6: So we're outside of the Kyle see him. The Dreamer goes,

866
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:47,920
Speaker 6: you see this cop and and he's got this chip

867
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:50,880
Speaker 6: thing on him. This and he's a chip cop. You

868
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 6: walk right up to him, start talking to him, because

869
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 6: this was brand new when Chip was there. And you

870
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 6: know me, I'm in on current events and stuff like that,

871
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 6: because next thing I know, you're ending your bucket of alcohol.

872
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 6: I've been up for three days. Handed to me, lets

873
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 6: me ride his motorcycle around the parking line. Don't even

874
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 6: remember it.

875
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 9: He's had to the cop hand of my big bucket.

876
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 6: Well, he knew who I was though, he knew I

877
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 6: was the Sandman, so that helped a little bit.

878
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:24,920
Speaker 1: And get me on his motorcycle.

879
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 6: Dummy, I know, Hey, you just got in the Sometimes

880
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:30,960
Speaker 6: I just walk into some stuff.

881
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 2: Sometimes that story would have been aces to put on

882
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:36,000
Speaker 2: the dark Side episode I.

883
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 6: Forgot. That's why people are like, why don't you write

884
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:41,879
Speaker 6: a book. I'm like, I don't remember anything. I would

885
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:44,280
Speaker 6: have to give a chapter out the friendy, a chapter

886
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 6: out the dream, or a draft out. I would give

887
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 6: the forward to the book. That's it. I get the forward. Hey,

888
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:54,719
Speaker 6: this is how these people remember it.

889
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 2: I'm telling you you have lived a charmed life. And

890
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 2: as Todd was right and Laurie was right, you should

891
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 2: have been dead a long time.

892
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 1: But I'm so glad you're alive.

893
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:07,839
Speaker 6: Because multiple times I should easily die.

894
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 1: I'm so happy you're still with us, because yes, me too.

895
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 6: My grandkids got up like six forty five with my

896
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 6: two year old grandson and then two years, two hours later,

897
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 6: the four year four year old got up, took him

898
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:24,840
Speaker 6: out back to the pool and stuff.

899
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:25,920
Speaker 1: Called the pool video.

900
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, I was Oliver shooting that with me and it

901
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:31,360
Speaker 6: was so cute.

902
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love I love seeing this is what I love.

903
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 6: I love that time. There's nothing better than that time.

904
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 6: I love getting up with him in the morning. And

905
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 6: I am never ever up at that time unless I

906
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:43,719
Speaker 6: gotta get on an airplane. I'm not up at six

907
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:44,359
Speaker 6: forty five.

908
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:47,720
Speaker 1: Oh, by the way, we're not flying on the private

909
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:52,319
Speaker 1: plane anymore. We're fine. I'll talk to you about that later.

910
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:53,160
Speaker 6: Thank god.

911
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:54,719
Speaker 1: It changed.

912
00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:58,960
Speaker 2: No, but we were we were in I don't know

913
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:00,880
Speaker 2: where we were, but it was last I think it

914
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 2: was last year, and it was me, you and Shane.

915
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:07,279
Speaker 2: It was like nine thirty, you know, at night, and

916
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:09,600
Speaker 2: we had just got to the hotel. We had a

917
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:12,680
Speaker 2: show the next day or whatever. We're just chilling and

918
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:16,480
Speaker 2: hack goes, twenty years ago, we'd be sitting.

919
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:19,319
Speaker 1: In the room doing coke or getting bombed or this

920
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 1: and that.

921
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:22,279
Speaker 2: He goes, Now we're talking about our kids and we're

922
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 2: now and we don't have any alcohol here and no drugs.

923
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 1: And he goes and this is great, And I said, yeah,

924
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 1: it's nice.

925
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:33,920
Speaker 2: It's different, and it's nice because we have matured different

926
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 2: phases of life.

927
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 1: Well, I listen, I enjoyed.

928
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:40,240
Speaker 6: My problem is I got stuck at fifteen year old

929
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 6: for like forty years. That was my problem. That's your

930
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:47,520
Speaker 6: Every psychilogist, every psychiatrist I've ever told, they were like, dude,

931
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:51,640
Speaker 6: you you never matured over fifteen years old. That's when

932
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 6: your problem. That's why he gets to get along so

933
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:56,960
Speaker 6: good with kids, because you never matured.

934
00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:00,920
Speaker 2: Well, I think you have, but I think there's certain

935
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:02,800
Speaker 2: instances where you still act like an idiot.

936
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:04,480
Speaker 1: And I can say that because.

937
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 6: Every day, like eight ten times, well, I walk around saying, heck,

938
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:12,960
Speaker 6: why did you do that? You're an idiot. You're an idiot.

939
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:16,239
Speaker 1: I enjoyed you back then, but I thoroughly enjoy you now.

940
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:19,480
Speaker 6: Yeah, yes, we have ten times better relationship than wherever.

941
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:23,040
Speaker 6: But we had Shane in between and saying he was

942
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:26,360
Speaker 6: he was, he was a plug and he has a progress.

943
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 1: He was he wasn't Debbie Downer.

944
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 6: Sometimes I believe I just said that.

945
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:33,480
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell me you said that.

946
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:35,879
Speaker 6: My grandfather said that back in the day.

947
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:39,719
Speaker 2: There was a time and I was thinking about this

948
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:42,960
Speaker 2: today because you and I are really close, right, but

949
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:46,160
Speaker 2: there was a time when you and I wanted to

950
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 2: kill each other.

951
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:52,080
Speaker 1: And I don't remember that was my fault. I don't

952
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:55,719
Speaker 1: remember where the tension was. But I know the night

953
00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:59,120
Speaker 1: that you came back where you you.

954
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:04,920
Speaker 2: Think you got the loudest pop pop why he started

955
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:07,480
Speaker 2: on a tornado and a volcado.

956
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:11,680
Speaker 6: Oh my god, the building registered on the Richter scale.

957
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:13,560
Speaker 6: We ate that night.

958
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:18,239
Speaker 1: Listen that night. We didn't talk and I was in

959
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:21,240
Speaker 1: the ring with you, and you wouldn't put You wouldn't

960
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:24,319
Speaker 1: put the beer, You wouldn't give me the beer, and

961
00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:26,759
Speaker 1: you wouldn't hug me, and you would There were so

962
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:28,920
Speaker 1: many days and it was super awkward.

963
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 2: And if you watch I just watched it the other

964
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:37,400
Speaker 2: day because somebody, it's at the end me, you and

965
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:41,680
Speaker 2: Tommy are in the rink and you had just you

966
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:44,720
Speaker 2: and Tommy are hugging and I'm standing there and I'm like, okay,

967
00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:47,319
Speaker 2: I know there's heat. I don't know why there's heat.

968
00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:49,759
Speaker 2: Is this m I for gonna hug me because this

969
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:52,279
Speaker 2: is really awkward, and you didn't, and I said, well

970
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:53,640
Speaker 2: then I'm not gonna hug him.

971
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:56,200
Speaker 1: So Tommy he hands me the beer and I just

972
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:58,440
Speaker 1: start drinking it by myself because I'm like, well, I

973
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:00,080
Speaker 1: got to do something because I I.

974
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:06,720
Speaker 6: Thought you wouldn't drink the beer. You know we had heat,

975
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:07,319
Speaker 6: we did.

976
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:10,000
Speaker 1: I don't remember you.

977
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:12,680
Speaker 6: Were mad at me for something was Shane's fault. I

978
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:15,520
Speaker 6: am one blame in Shane for that, because he will

979
00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:17,279
Speaker 6: be the common denomination.

980
00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:18,600
Speaker 1: Left I was.

981
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:20,879
Speaker 6: I was. I know that was the reason he left

982
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:22,719
Speaker 6: to put all the heat on you, and that's why

983
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:23,560
Speaker 6: I got mad at you.

984
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 1: I don't remember, but every time I watched that video,

985
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:28,280
Speaker 1: I get so mad because I'm.

986
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:30,440
Speaker 6: Like, man, how can watch anymore?

987
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:32,279
Speaker 1: I know, but.

988
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:35,399
Speaker 2: Sometimes people put it on my my timeline and it's

989
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:38,800
Speaker 2: there and I'm just by myself drinking fear like a loser,

990
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:41,760
Speaker 2: and I'm just like, I can't remember for the life

991
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:44,200
Speaker 2: of me why we fought.

992
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:47,000
Speaker 6: I'm sure it was my fault.

993
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:49,120
Speaker 1: All right, I'll say it was your fault, but I

994
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:51,120
Speaker 1: just don't remember what it was. But it made me sad.

995
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 1: I'm like, this could have been such a more fun

996
00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 1: night for me, and I was happy that you were back.

997
00:50:56,120 --> 00:51:01,040
Speaker 6: And oh so that's why. That's why it's not the

998
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:05,440
Speaker 6: biggest pop ever, because I shunned you at the end

999
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 6: of the biggest poem. Oh wow, now you're really showing

1000
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:13,560
Speaker 6: your true callers, Fanny. It's because I shunned you. That's

1001
00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:15,000
Speaker 6: why I wasn't the biggest.

1002
00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:17,359
Speaker 1: Out of ten. I'd give you like a seven point eight.

1003
00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:20,440
Speaker 5: Oh wow, if I can weigh in. I do have

1004
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:22,680
Speaker 5: to take the headphones out when he comes out because

1005
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:24,080
Speaker 5: it is so loud.

1006
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:24,720
Speaker 1: So very loud.

1007
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:28,360
Speaker 2: It is a good pop and he's jacked and then

1008
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:31,919
Speaker 2: and then the jackness goes away after like three monks.

1009
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:35,000
Speaker 6: Well, dude, I only worked out for six months ever

1010
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:36,080
Speaker 6: in my entire life.

1011
00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:36,560
Speaker 4: I know.

1012
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:39,960
Speaker 6: That's it. I did six months. I got jack stop

1013
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:40,720
Speaker 6: working it.

1014
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:42,440
Speaker 2: Because you were in the lands of the giants and

1015
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:44,320
Speaker 2: then you came back to the lands of the pudgies

1016
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 2: and it was great.

1017
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:49,160
Speaker 6: It was anyway.

1018
00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 2: I'm so glad we got you. I wanted to get

1019
00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:55,200
Speaker 2: you first, but stupid busted open beat me. But that's okay.

1020
00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:58,440
Speaker 2: What do you want to share with us? Where are

1021
00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 2: you going to be? Do you even know your schedule?

1022
00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:01,560
Speaker 6: Man?

1023
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:04,160
Speaker 1: You were coming up?

1024
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 6: Look, I had to bring this card with me, Samman,

1025
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:11,759
Speaker 6: so I could plug my stuff here because I can't

1026
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:13,520
Speaker 6: because I can't remember any of it.

1027
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:15,520
Speaker 1: It should have drew abs on you. You're looking a

1028
00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:17,040
Speaker 1: little pudgy in that drawing.

1029
00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:21,880
Speaker 6: Well no, see that wouldn't be realistic, a realistic rendition

1030
00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:26,320
Speaker 6: what my body actually looks like. A Dude, you should

1031
00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:28,360
Speaker 6: see me without pants on. It's even worse.

1032
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:29,280
Speaker 1: I haven't.

1033
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:32,040
Speaker 6: I got a flatter ask for Franny right now? Had

1034
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 6: back in my ass is good? Now? Oh now, it's

1035
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:37,839
Speaker 6: like God compared the way it was back in the day.

1036
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:40,960
Speaker 6: You can tell she's what. She works it out.

1037
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:44,040
Speaker 1: I'm working it out, all right. So we we have

1038
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:45,400
Speaker 1: to san podcast.

1039
00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:51,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, at YouTube, at Saman podcast, Twitter, at e c

1040
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:56,520
Speaker 6: W Samn. No, that was TikTok at ECW Saman and

1041
00:52:56,560 --> 00:53:02,279
Speaker 6: then at saman pod thunevery okay, there's more of it.

1042
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:08,000
Speaker 1: So we have we have nothing. We have stuff.

1043
00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:12,280
Speaker 6: Man, Chris said something. Oh oh my god, this weekend.

1044
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:16,040
Speaker 6: It was horrifying. Now how Chris needs an assist it

1045
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:18,600
Speaker 6: when he's set and everything up, He does it all himself.

1046
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:22,400
Speaker 6: I flew into Cleveland. Then I had to drive five

1047
00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:25,920
Speaker 6: out two hundred and seventy five miles with the worst

1048
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:29,520
Speaker 6: driver I've ever had in my entire life. It was

1049
00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:35,560
Speaker 6: like this break but it was so horrible. Then I

1050
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:38,000
Speaker 6: go to a hotel. Nobody else is there. I don't know,

1051
00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:42,320
Speaker 6: it's late. I'm bumming. The next day we have an

1052
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:45,240
Speaker 6: autograph signing and then I go in and came somebody

1053
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:47,440
Speaker 6: the first match, and then have to drive two hundred

1054
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:51,400
Speaker 6: and seventy five miles to wherever the Hall of Fame is,

1055
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:55,640
Speaker 6: the Football Hall of Fame, Dayton, Ohio. Then had to

1056
00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:58,319
Speaker 6: do a show at entrance there, and then I had

1057
00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:00,480
Speaker 6: to drive like one hundred miles to He wanted to

1058
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:00,919
Speaker 6: take my.

1059
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:03,920
Speaker 1: Flight to next Why on earth did he not just

1060
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:07,080
Speaker 1: fly you into the first that you had to do?

1061
00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:10,799
Speaker 6: He had too much, he did not. It's I mean,

1062
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:13,880
Speaker 6: it's his fault, but it's not his fault. More than

1063
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:17,200
Speaker 6: he could chew and he just but he's a great

1064
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:19,359
Speaker 6: guy and I love him, so I love him too.

1065
00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:23,680
Speaker 1: But when I take bookings. I approved the flights before they.

1066
00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:25,640
Speaker 6: He's the only one I don't no.

1067
00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:26,960
Speaker 1: I I do with him too.

1068
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:30,200
Speaker 6: I need to get my fight till like eight days before.

1069
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:33,440
Speaker 6: That's how. That's how onun organized he was.

1070
00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:36,080
Speaker 1: That's terrible. That's a long time in the court.

1071
00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:38,840
Speaker 6: I love you, Chris, though we do love it. Lose

1072
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:41,720
Speaker 6: some weight though. For your daughters. You gotta stay alive.

1073
00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:47,000
Speaker 6: Right now, Chris, just say, look, everybody else calls a moose,

1074
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 6: so if you listen.

1075
00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:50,880
Speaker 2: We were with a promoter who had a daughter that

1076
00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:53,560
Speaker 2: was a little chunky and.

1077
00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:58,319
Speaker 6: Dude, Actually, if it comes across my mind, I just

1078
00:54:58,400 --> 00:54:59,400
Speaker 6: say it. I don't like.

1079
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:02,759
Speaker 1: She's like, you know, this kid's really fat. She needs

1080
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:03,800
Speaker 1: to go and to diet.

1081
00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:06,399
Speaker 6: I'm like, yeah, the girl was like ten years old

1082
00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:07,520
Speaker 6: and like a buck eighty.

1083
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:09,520
Speaker 1: I said, it's the promoter's daughter.

1084
00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:10,600
Speaker 6: Please shut your mouth.

1085
00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:15,400
Speaker 1: We didn't even get paid yet. Just to quiet killing me.

1086
00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:26,399
Speaker 3: The best need we didn't even that's the first thing

1087
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:27,319
Speaker 3: she goes and says.

1088
00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:28,920
Speaker 6: She dabs me on the show them and shut up.

1089
00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:29,920
Speaker 6: We haven't a pay yet.

1090
00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:36,360
Speaker 1: Don't don't sabotage a little bit of a career that

1091
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:37,120
Speaker 1: I have left.

1092
00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:39,400
Speaker 6: Please help me.

1093
00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:42,840
Speaker 1: We're going to be together.

1094
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:45,399
Speaker 2: Uh May thirty first, We're going to be in West

1095
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:49,000
Speaker 2: Virginia for the weekend. We got three shots that weekend?

1096
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:52,040
Speaker 6: Bro, Wait is that the May first into the June first?

1097
00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:56,800
Speaker 6: I canceled that. I cancel it. I did, why because

1098
00:55:56,800 --> 00:55:59,080
Speaker 6: I want to do something with Frankie Edgar in the

1099
00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:02,000
Speaker 6: m M A clean him met. I was on his

1100
00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:07,040
Speaker 6: podcast and he's got a fight in New Jersey. That well,

1101
00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:10,160
Speaker 6: he's going into the Hall of Fame, but his young

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00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:14,200
Speaker 6: boy is fighting Tyler, my son's friend from high school.

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00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:16,200
Speaker 1: You're not coming with me that weekend?

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00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:24,799
Speaker 6: I don't think so. It's three shots it is, I know,

1105
00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:28,400
Speaker 6: But well, all right, here's the deal. I want to

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00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:31,640
Speaker 6: do it for for my social media because I could

1107
00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:41,200
Speaker 6: be backstage with the m M. And he told me mm.

1108
00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:41,400
Speaker 1: He texted me the other one.

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00:56:42,680 --> 00:56:45,320
Speaker 6: I don't think I've ever seen speechless. Friends.

1110
00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:47,960
Speaker 2: I'm so mad at you right now. Where is it

1111
00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:52,000
Speaker 2: you said? I missed you so bad these last two weekends.

1112
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:54,120
Speaker 2: I need my travel companion.

1113
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:56,560
Speaker 6: Alright, I do, But I well, why don't you just

1114
00:56:56,600 --> 00:56:58,080
Speaker 6: come to frank Jegar with us?

1115
00:56:58,239 --> 00:57:01,560
Speaker 1: Because I got three shots? Then I'm getting paid huge

1116
00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:02,080
Speaker 1: money for.

1117
00:57:03,640 --> 00:57:05,920
Speaker 2: Oh, I am never talking to you again if you

1118
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:11,600
Speaker 2: don't come with me. I worked on our flights this

1119
00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:13,560
Speaker 2: past weekend to get us the best flight.

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Speaker 6: Can I give you a Paul Hayman answer right now?

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00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:18,920
Speaker 1: That's a bullshit answer.

1122
00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:21,320
Speaker 6: I'm sorry, my phone's ringing right now.

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00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:26,840
Speaker 1: Oh I'm sad. No, don't make me fly to West

1124
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:32,320
Speaker 1: Virginia alone. Two shots are for Moose and one shot

1125
00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:33,640
Speaker 1: is the Big Beckley Show.

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00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:36,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, I know, but well here's the thing. When I

1127
00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:38,640
Speaker 6: mentioned ad the Moose, He's like, I got no problem.

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00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:40,960
Speaker 6: I'm worried about that weekend for you.

1129
00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:43,040
Speaker 1: I got a problem.

1130
00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:44,280
Speaker 6: I know what you do with you.

1131
00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:47,000
Speaker 1: I'm telling you we're breaking up.

1132
00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:49,360
Speaker 6: If I'm gonna put some shade on you for right now,

1133
00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:55,720
Speaker 6: right now that nowadays, I'm really mad at you.

1134
00:57:55,760 --> 00:58:00,640
Speaker 1: All right, thankye off my screen. You're not then for real?

1135
00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:04,320
Speaker 6: I don't know yet. I have to make the decision.

1136
00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:07,280
Speaker 1: It's three shots, it's a lot of money, and I'm

1137
00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:08,560
Speaker 1: there and it'll be so fun.

1138
00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:11,600
Speaker 6: Let me talk to the Moves to see if it's still happening.

1139
00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:14,360
Speaker 6: Because I just talked to him, I know, but he

1140
00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:18,040
Speaker 6: acted like it was no problem. Me changing out of it.

1141
00:58:18,680 --> 00:58:19,840
Speaker 1: No, there's a problem.

1142
00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:24,280
Speaker 6: There's a problem. I'm gonna call you. I'm calling you.

1143
00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:29,440
Speaker 1: Don't listen to his podcast unless he comes with me.

1144
00:58:29,520 --> 00:58:34,000
Speaker 2: May thirty first, all right, love you bye.

1145
00:58:35,480 --> 00:58:38,240
Speaker 1: So mad at him. I'm so mad at him? What

1146
00:58:38,280 --> 00:58:41,760
Speaker 1: an exit? Can you understand? Can I just tell you

1147
00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:46,240
Speaker 1: I worked on these flights for two hours this past weekend.

1148
00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:47,200
Speaker 6: I believe you.

1149
00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:52,200
Speaker 1: So if they bought him a flight, were screwed. Oh

1150
00:58:52,280 --> 00:58:54,920
Speaker 1: my god, I am so upset.

1151
00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:56,840
Speaker 5: He was here and now he's gone.

1152
00:58:56,960 --> 00:59:00,960
Speaker 1: I'm so mad at him. That was the sin I am.

1153
00:59:01,840 --> 00:59:04,080
Speaker 1: I just texted him, I am so mad at you.

1154
00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:08,480
Speaker 1: He literally said to me, I missed you so much

1155
00:59:08,560 --> 00:59:13,840
Speaker 1: this past week and I need blah blah blah. Well

1156
00:59:14,080 --> 00:59:20,280
Speaker 1: there you go. What a great interview. Thank god I

1157
00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:23,320
Speaker 1: mentioned that what if I didn't and then what if

1158
00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:25,560
Speaker 1: I don't even know if they bought the ticket yet,

1159
00:59:25,880 --> 00:59:28,840
Speaker 1: but what if they did, Well, there's gonna be problems.

1160
00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:32,160
Speaker 5: I just love when a couple of ecw A lums

1161
00:59:32,200 --> 00:59:34,920
Speaker 5: get together and shoot the breeze.

1162
00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:37,880
Speaker 1: And I like, don't you love how he tells me

1163
00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:40,040
Speaker 1: just come with me to the m M A thing.

1164
00:59:40,120 --> 00:59:42,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like they're gonna pay me the money I would

1165
00:59:42,640 --> 00:59:44,000
Speaker 2: have made for my free appearances.

1166
00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:46,320
Speaker 5: Just go backstage and help you social media.

1167
00:59:46,560 --> 00:59:49,960
Speaker 1: Everything will be great. That's great. Oh my god.

1168
00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:55,320
Speaker 2: Well it was insightful, to say the least.

1169
00:59:56,360 --> 01:00:01,040
Speaker 1: We got a little deep deep out some stories that

1170
01:00:01,120 --> 01:00:05,200
Speaker 1: made the cunning room floor. Yes, and he's not coming

1171
01:00:05,240 --> 01:00:07,080
Speaker 1: to Beckley and I'm really upset.

1172
01:00:07,640 --> 01:00:11,600
Speaker 5: All I can say is this, uh, sex without condoms

1173
01:00:11,720 --> 01:00:17,840
Speaker 5: in the nineteen eighties, okay, with big bushes, with big bushes. Okay, yeah,

1174
01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:20,520
Speaker 5: Let's see what else did we get? What was very risky?

1175
01:00:20,600 --> 01:00:27,480
Speaker 5: We got uh crucifixion uh in front of staunch Catholics. Okay,

1176
01:00:27,560 --> 01:00:33,040
Speaker 5: that's very risky. We forgot to talk about him odan odine.

1177
01:00:33,120 --> 01:00:36,080
Speaker 5: That's that's not good, you know, excessive drug use. What

1178
01:00:36,200 --> 01:00:40,040
Speaker 5: else can I say? But this E C Dub Dub.

1179
01:00:40,200 --> 01:00:43,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know that's what you see. Dubs known

1180
01:00:43,600 --> 01:00:46,840
Speaker 1: for violence in the drugs in the back. And not

1181
01:00:46,920 --> 01:00:48,480
Speaker 1: all of us were drug addicts.

1182
01:00:48,600 --> 01:00:53,120
Speaker 6: I know, so like, you know, you can't do that.

1183
01:00:53,360 --> 01:00:55,439
Speaker 5: No, but I know, but he survived that.

1184
01:00:55,680 --> 01:00:58,000
Speaker 1: He did survive. Well that was my point. It was

1185
01:00:58,080 --> 01:00:58,920
Speaker 1: like he did all.

1186
01:00:58,760 --> 01:01:02,680
Speaker 2: This stupid stuff, but he's prevailed and now he's a

1187
01:01:02,680 --> 01:01:07,640
Speaker 2: better person from it and listen. I don't condone his behavior,

1188
01:01:08,560 --> 01:01:10,760
Speaker 2: the way he treated Lourie. I don't condone that. I

1189
01:01:10,840 --> 01:01:13,600
Speaker 2: said that it's not funny, it's you know, abuse is

1190
01:01:13,640 --> 01:01:16,960
Speaker 2: not a funny thing. But he's not that person.

1191
01:01:17,080 --> 01:01:17,280
Speaker 6: Now.

1192
01:01:17,840 --> 01:01:20,040
Speaker 1: I didn't know that person, you know what I mean.

1193
01:01:20,120 --> 01:01:22,080
Speaker 1: I had no clue that that was even going on

1194
01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:26,800
Speaker 1: because she was always around and she never made it known,

1195
01:01:27,880 --> 01:01:29,960
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, So how was I supposed

1196
01:01:29,960 --> 01:01:32,480
Speaker 1: to know it happened. I just know the guy that

1197
01:01:32,560 --> 01:01:37,360
Speaker 1: he is today. He loves his kids, he loves his grandkids.

1198
01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:42,960
Speaker 1: He's a good guy. He's changed. People change, so I

1199
01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:44,360
Speaker 1: give him the benefit of the doubt.

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01:01:45,400 --> 01:01:48,040
Speaker 5: He even seems like more chilled out from when I

1201
01:01:48,080 --> 01:01:50,880
Speaker 5: first met him, like eight years ago. Like he even

1202
01:01:50,920 --> 01:01:53,520
Speaker 5: seems different from then, Like he just seems chilled.

1203
01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:56,720
Speaker 2: Well, he is different because I used to tell him

1204
01:01:56,760 --> 01:01:59,960
Speaker 2: like when we would do these conventions, he would leave

1205
01:02:00,200 --> 01:02:03,640
Speaker 2: the table or he would stand there on his phone

1206
01:02:03,720 --> 01:02:06,720
Speaker 2: and not even talk to people. And now he's talking

1207
01:02:06,800 --> 01:02:11,400
Speaker 2: to the fans like he's very interactive and he's very personable.

1208
01:02:11,840 --> 01:02:14,400
Speaker 2: He wasn't like that a long time ago, and I

1209
01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:16,160
Speaker 2: used to tell him, like, people are not going to

1210
01:02:16,200 --> 01:02:18,440
Speaker 2: book you anymore because you're anti social.

1211
01:02:19,080 --> 01:02:22,000
Speaker 1: This isn't good, you know. But now you can't get

1212
01:02:22,040 --> 01:02:25,120
Speaker 1: him to shut up. Although he doesn't soult.

1213
01:02:24,840 --> 01:02:26,560
Speaker 2: A lot of people and I tell him, like, stop

1214
01:02:26,560 --> 01:02:27,600
Speaker 2: insulting fans.

1215
01:02:27,760 --> 01:02:31,800
Speaker 5: He is the funniest to stand next to. Oh, have

1216
01:02:31,960 --> 01:02:35,640
Speaker 5: people watch, because he does not hold back and he

1217
01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:38,760
Speaker 5: lets it right and he is the funniest fucking guy

1218
01:02:38,800 --> 01:02:40,480
Speaker 5: to just sit there and people watch with.

1219
01:02:41,040 --> 01:02:45,000
Speaker 1: He's again, he's one of my dearest friends. And we

1220
01:02:45,200 --> 01:02:48,880
Speaker 1: get along great and we have a great rapport with

1221
01:02:48,920 --> 01:02:51,400
Speaker 1: each other, and we have fun on the road. And

1222
01:02:51,440 --> 01:02:53,000
Speaker 1: that's why I'm really upset.

1223
01:02:52,680 --> 01:02:56,000
Speaker 2: About this Beckley thing because I don't want to go

1224
01:02:56,040 --> 01:02:59,000
Speaker 2: by myself now. I mean, I'll meet Shane there and everything,

1225
01:02:59,040 --> 01:03:01,960
Speaker 2: but just adding there is a pain in the ass.

1226
01:03:02,680 --> 01:03:05,640
Speaker 5: I told you it's it's it's that far a part

1227
01:03:05,680 --> 01:03:06,400
Speaker 5: of West Virginia.

1228
01:03:06,560 --> 01:03:08,440
Speaker 1: Well, I had to do two flights. I had to

1229
01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:11,240
Speaker 1: be into Huntington out of Buckley.

1230
01:03:11,760 --> 01:03:15,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I my son my first signings in Huntington

1231
01:03:15,880 --> 01:03:20,760
Speaker 2: is it called yes And instead of flying into Beckley,

1232
01:03:20,800 --> 01:03:23,919
Speaker 2: which there wasn't a flight, they said, oh, do one

1233
01:03:24,200 --> 01:03:28,160
Speaker 2: you know two tickets? Do two one ways? I said, okay,

1234
01:03:28,280 --> 01:03:30,800
Speaker 2: so that's what I did. I did them for both

1235
01:03:30,840 --> 01:03:39,160
Speaker 2: of us. Anyway, Shane will be there, Brian Myers will

1236
01:03:39,160 --> 01:03:39,440
Speaker 2: be there.

1237
01:03:39,520 --> 01:03:42,280
Speaker 1: That's my little crew. I'll be fine. But it's just

1238
01:03:42,720 --> 01:03:47,720
Speaker 1: I like having somebody with me traveling, you know, absolutely.

1239
01:03:47,960 --> 01:03:49,840
Speaker 1: I don't like doing it by myself. But I'll put

1240
01:03:49,840 --> 01:03:55,320
Speaker 1: my big girl panties on and get it done. Anyway. Yeah,

1241
01:03:56,200 --> 01:03:56,680
Speaker 1: there you go.

1242
01:03:57,200 --> 01:03:59,840
Speaker 2: And I think I don't think there. I think they're

1243
01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:03,360
Speaker 2: nectars too. I don't I think there's a stop. They're

1244
01:04:03,400 --> 01:04:05,560
Speaker 2: not direct flights, which sucks.

1245
01:04:08,440 --> 01:04:09,440
Speaker 1: Man. West Virginia's a.

1246
01:04:09,480 --> 01:04:15,120
Speaker 2: Pain in the ass to get to. Anyway, enough of rambling.

1247
01:04:16,840 --> 01:04:18,800
Speaker 2: That was a good one, So thank you to Hack

1248
01:04:18,920 --> 01:04:19,440
Speaker 2: for coming on.

1249
01:04:20,160 --> 01:04:23,280
Speaker 1: And if you didn't watch it, go and watch Dark

1250
01:04:23,320 --> 01:04:26,400
Speaker 1: Side of the Ring. It was a good one. I

1251
01:04:26,400 --> 01:04:29,040
Speaker 1: think it was the best one. I guess I'm partial.

1252
01:04:30,080 --> 01:04:34,520
Speaker 1: I'm partial because I do know him, but I that

1253
01:04:34,920 --> 01:04:36,160
Speaker 1: was the one I enjoyed the most.

1254
01:04:36,800 --> 01:04:37,160
Speaker 5: Very good.

1255
01:04:37,200 --> 01:04:37,880
Speaker 6: It's good.

1256
01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:41,240
Speaker 5: It's good when you're not just like it's like banging

1257
01:04:41,240 --> 01:04:44,440
Speaker 5: your head against the wall afterwards, depressed, and you know,

1258
01:04:44,680 --> 01:04:49,760
Speaker 5: like this one didn't there's silver lining at least then

1259
01:04:49,800 --> 01:04:51,640
Speaker 5: when this one ended, you know, what I mean, like,

1260
01:04:51,720 --> 01:04:54,440
Speaker 5: at least we're not like, oh my god, I can't

1261
01:04:54,480 --> 01:04:56,720
Speaker 5: believe that this was the way it ended and this

1262
01:04:56,760 --> 01:05:00,000
Speaker 5: is what was left. And no, he's alive. He's still

1263
01:05:00,160 --> 01:05:03,840
Speaker 5: doing shows. People listen to his podcast. You know, he's

1264
01:05:03,880 --> 01:05:08,240
Speaker 5: got some redemp shit like silver lining. Sam Man's still around.

1265
01:05:08,560 --> 01:05:14,280
Speaker 1: He's still alive and kicking. So there's that. But now

1266
01:05:14,280 --> 01:05:19,520
Speaker 1: there's heat, all right.

1267
01:05:19,840 --> 01:05:20,760
Speaker 5: Is he a four timer?

1268
01:05:20,800 --> 01:05:21,400
Speaker 6: By the way, is he?

1269
01:05:21,680 --> 01:05:23,560
Speaker 1: I think he's a three timer?

1270
01:05:23,600 --> 01:05:24,479
Speaker 6: Okay, I think so.

1271
01:05:24,520 --> 01:05:27,560
Speaker 1: I think this was the third you know, five timers

1272
01:05:27,600 --> 01:05:28,320
Speaker 1: get a jacket.

1273
01:05:29,080 --> 01:05:31,560
Speaker 5: Wow, we have a budget for that.

1274
01:05:32,000 --> 01:05:36,440
Speaker 2: No, we don't have a budget for anything, which is terrible.

1275
01:05:36,720 --> 01:05:40,040
Speaker 2: That's why you need to follow us on iHeart or

1276
01:05:40,080 --> 01:05:43,960
Speaker 2: subscribe wherever you get your podcast and listen to us.

1277
01:05:44,160 --> 01:05:47,200
Speaker 2: We're on twice a week now. We're on Tuesdays at

1278
01:05:47,240 --> 01:05:51,360
Speaker 2: three oh one am and Thursdays at three oh one am.

1279
01:05:51,520 --> 01:05:52,520
Speaker 2: So tell your friends.

1280
01:05:52,880 --> 01:05:55,040
Speaker 1: If you're on socials and you see us tweet about it,

1281
01:05:55,080 --> 01:05:57,040
Speaker 1: please retweet it to help spread the word.

1282
01:05:57,920 --> 01:06:04,000
Speaker 2: We really appreciate your help. And also YouTube. Our YouTube

1283
01:06:04,040 --> 01:06:10,800
Speaker 2: is still growing. It's ecw diva Francine exclamation point over

1284
01:06:10,960 --> 01:06:12,720
Speaker 2: on YouTube, and.

1285
01:06:13,760 --> 01:06:16,120
Speaker 1: You know it's free to subscribe. It's free to subscribe

1286
01:06:16,160 --> 01:06:20,600
Speaker 1: everywhere or follow doesn't cost you a dime, so it

1287
01:06:20,680 --> 01:06:23,720
Speaker 1: really helps me out if you would do so, and

1288
01:06:24,640 --> 01:06:25,680
Speaker 1: we appreciate.

1289
01:06:25,280 --> 01:06:26,080
Speaker 6: The support.

1290
01:06:27,440 --> 01:06:32,640
Speaker 5: Absolutely. Yeah, and don't forget at ECW Francceine podcast on

1291
01:06:32,720 --> 01:06:37,480
Speaker 5: TikTok and also on Facebook. It is France Scene's Eyes

1292
01:06:37,640 --> 01:06:38,800
Speaker 5: up Here podcast.

1293
01:06:39,040 --> 01:06:41,560
Speaker 1: There you go, all right, And if they want to

1294
01:06:41,600 --> 01:06:42,800
Speaker 1: follow you, where can they find you?

1295
01:06:43,320 --> 01:06:45,400
Speaker 6: At Chat, E and B on x.

1296
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Speaker 2: Okay across the born on social media, you can find

1297
01:06:48,680 --> 01:06:52,560
Speaker 2: me at ECW Diva Franccene. I hope you are staying safe.

1298
01:06:52,680 --> 01:06:54,880
Speaker 2: I hope you are staying healthy and most of all,

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01:06:55,280 --> 01:06:57,240
Speaker 2: I hope you are staying extreme