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Speaker 1: It's ready. Are you welcome to stuff mom never told you?

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Speaker 1: From House stup Works dot Com. Hello and welcome to

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Speaker 1: the podcast. And Kristen and I'm Caroline, So Caroline. Um

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Speaker 1: our title, our clever title for this episode. Um, Did

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Speaker 1: cal Girls Get the Boot? From History? Is a little

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Speaker 1: riff on Tom Robin's novel Do caw Girls Get the Blues?

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Speaker 1: It's also a movie starring Uma Thurman. Just long fingers, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: to turn it off. That's what it was, hitchhiking, that's right.

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Speaker 1: And I gotta say, I read, um, do cow Girls

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Speaker 1: Get the Blues? Way back and way back? And call

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Speaker 1: with you because I am fifty Um, I read that,

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Speaker 1: And I gotta say, aside from that very very fictional

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Speaker 1: I know very little. Also, Yeah, I have a couple

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Speaker 1: And that's true for people who I am not related to. Also,

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Speaker 1: So we decided to take a stab at the history

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Speaker 1: of cow girls, who were originally known as cowboy women,

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Speaker 1: cowboy girls or cowboy women. Some you know, smart Alarci

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Speaker 1: journalists started calling them cowgirls girls. Come see the cow girls. Um. So,

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Speaker 1: the thing is that it was kind of hard to

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Speaker 1: Clamity Jane born Martha Jane Canary was one tough broad.

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Speaker 1: The skills she developed out West eventually led her to

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Speaker 1: touring with several Wild West shows, including wild Bill Hickock's

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Speaker 1: but I'm not so sure that's true. She was actually

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Speaker 1: talking about her now exactly what a girl? What a girl?

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Speaker 1: And she um in the eighteen seventies is play back

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Speaker 1: and at one point she actually saved a stage coach

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Speaker 1: dainty and delicate, Hey, come on, sassy. But then the

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Speaker 1: two people. I'll give you two. Georgia O'Keefe painter, yes,

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Speaker 1: check out the National Calgirl Museum in Hall of Fame. Now,

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Speaker 1: Um So, yeah, speaking of emails, while't we when we

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Speaker 1: and I continually referred to removing hair from the vagina.

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Speaker 1: What is my problem? Uh? Yeah, So thank you for

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Speaker 1: that email, Claire. Okay, we have an email from Spencer.

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