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Speaker 1: Coach. Good to see you, appreciate your time. Good to

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Speaker 1: be here, thanks for inviting me. Let's talk running game

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Speaker 1: here and the importance of an early running game. It

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Speaker 1: may not be the flashy ten fifteen yards early in

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Speaker 1: a game, but if you're getting one to some positive

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Speaker 1: momentum early, that's when the big stuff can break later

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Speaker 1: in the game. Is that right? Yeah? And of course

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Speaker 1: over the years, that's the one thing that you kind

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Speaker 1: of learned as it goes. You know. I think just

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Speaker 1: from being around some of the uh what I want

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Speaker 1: to say, some of the best head coaches ever, you know,

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Speaker 1: they would always I would always remember them saying, especially

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Speaker 1: defensive guys, I would always remember those head coach saying that, oh,

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Speaker 1: I don't worry about them. They don't have the patients

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Speaker 1: to stick to that at full yards in the cloud

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Speaker 1: of dust, they won't stick that. They're gonna drop, you know,

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Speaker 1: drive back and through too many passes. You know. Pete

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Speaker 1: carroll Is is one notorious for that. Pete just don't

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Speaker 1: believe you've got the patients to sit there and run

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Speaker 1: the ball whereby they all know they fear the same thing.

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Speaker 1: They fear the running game. And if you started like

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Speaker 1: he said, if you started off early with one, two

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Speaker 1: to three, three, four, sow later it gets to eight, nine, ten, eleven,

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Speaker 1: you know it's thus to change it. And I said

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Speaker 1: the one thing too, that we all learned in football,

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Speaker 1: when you're sitting down in those meetings, when you sit

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Speaker 1: down in these team meetings that Saturday night before game,

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Speaker 1: I've never heard the defensive coordinator ever step up and

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Speaker 1: saying we got to stop the pass. We've got to

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Speaker 1: stop the pass. They all don't sleep at night because

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Speaker 1: they're worried about you running at football, you know, because

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Speaker 1: the key to it is sooner or later. Those with Lenard,

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Speaker 1: especially Leonard for Nette, those those two yard games turns

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Speaker 1: to four, those four curting the eight eight turns to

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Speaker 1: forty eight are as in the DENVCA, it turns into

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Speaker 1: one coach when when Leonard's been going this year, well

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Speaker 1: he's back to his old self, just kind of downhill

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Speaker 1: and and a lot of times runs to contact. That's

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Speaker 1: the way he's always kind of been in college. But

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Speaker 1: it seems like this year, especially the last couple of weeks,

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Speaker 1: he still had that aggressive downhill mentality. That's when he's

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Speaker 1: at his best. Yes, and and that's kind of what

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Speaker 1: he and I have talked about. That's the uh discussion

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Speaker 1: we've had. And I told him it's always that thin line,

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Speaker 1: you know, right between there. You know, as a coach,

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Speaker 1: you know you're a little bit nervous to say, uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, hey, put your put your head down and

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Speaker 1: just go forward. There's a little bit increase there. You

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Speaker 1: can gain four. Where by a good runner, his mindset

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Speaker 1: is hold on one minute, coach about jump cut to

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Speaker 1: my left, maybe I can gain twelve, you know. And

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Speaker 1: I told him and Len and I talked about that

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Speaker 1: is starting out, starting out of early. Let's take those fours,

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Speaker 1: Let's take those five. Let's just kind of get going

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Speaker 1: way I'm down on a little bit, and then as

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Speaker 1: the game progress, we'll go ahead and jump cut one

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Speaker 1: or two and see if you can break one. Terry

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Speaker 1: Robiscuit with US Jaguars running backs coach, how's his stamina

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Speaker 1: last week? It was back to I think he played

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Speaker 1: fifty five or fifty eight snaps on offense last week.

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Speaker 1: Right now, there's not a lot of runs and that

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Speaker 1: was some three and ounce. It was tough to establish

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Speaker 1: it earlier and get back to the running game. But

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Speaker 1: he's been doing that a lot this year. He's on

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Speaker 1: the field all the time. How is he handling that? Well,

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Speaker 1: I told him, you know, the places I've been in

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Speaker 1: my past, you know, when I've had the Marcus Allen's

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Speaker 1: and the Bo Jackson's and Eric Dickinson's and the guys

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Speaker 1: that uh that that's in Kenton. When i've had those

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Speaker 1: guys they've played uh, you know, like I told him,

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Speaker 1: I can't sit I can't sit back and predict that

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Speaker 1: what's coming. I can't predict that. Okay, we're gonna run

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Speaker 1: it this one, then we're gonn throw it three, and

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Speaker 1: then we're gonna run it on that food. You know,

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Speaker 1: when when they call a run, you're you're a runner.

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Speaker 1: You're here to run it, and and it's hard to

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Speaker 1: run it if you're if you're kneeling on next to me.

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Speaker 1: And like I told him, and I think that's uh.

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Speaker 1: You know. One thing that I got to kind of

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Speaker 1: check on myself is I've always had a hard time

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Speaker 1: kind of guess what is the best time to give

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Speaker 1: him a blow when he's in the middle of a drive.

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Speaker 1: If we've got a twelve, play, fifteen, play eighteen, play

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Speaker 1: drive Okay, that's easy. You know, I could substitute that.

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Speaker 1: You know, but like you said, if we've got a

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Speaker 1: six play drive going and we get to play seven,

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Speaker 1: I should I take him out here? Now you know,

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Speaker 1: a minute, we just got down to the twenty yard line. Well, no,

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Speaker 1: the next one maybe a run and he might score,

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Speaker 1: you know, I mean, he might take it to the house.

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Speaker 1: And it's not, like I tell him, is not that

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Speaker 1: I'm afraid to put the next guy in. I'm just

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Speaker 1: afraid that the guy that is supposed to be he

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Speaker 1: isn't in and uh got a chance to go score,

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Speaker 1: you know. And of course with Leonard, he's got a

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Speaker 1: chance to go score. Every time you touch it. It's

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Speaker 1: from just but anyway on the field. So that's a

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Speaker 1: that's a hard thing to balance when you feel like

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Speaker 1: you got a guy that you're counting on and you're

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Speaker 1: depending on. But he's he's been doing good. But I

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Speaker 1: tell you, the effort that he has put in this

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Speaker 1: summer and and the energy that he's expanded using all

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Speaker 1: this this whole this whole season, everything he's been doing

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Speaker 1: in practice has showed up in the game. He's been

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Speaker 1: working hard in practice, running hard, finishing plays, finishing down

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Speaker 1: field with good distance to it, and taking consecutive plays

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Speaker 1: over and over and over. And I think on Sunday

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Speaker 1: has been good. I've said out a couple of times

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Speaker 1: and ask him how you feeling on the bench. All right, y'okay,

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Speaker 1: I'm good. He's not even breathing hard, so I guess

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Speaker 1: he's okay. Final thought here, this is uh, this is

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Speaker 1: setting up to be a get right game for the offense,

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Speaker 1: and you don't want to downplay what Cincinnati can do.

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Speaker 1: But this is a this is the stretch you're coming

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Speaker 1: up for this football team, right two and four, going

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Speaker 1: on the road to Cincinnati to get right on offense.

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Speaker 1: This would be a good week to start right. Well. Again,

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Speaker 1: you're in the media, so I'm gonna let you say that. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna listen to you, and I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna listen to you. But I ain't gonna agree

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Speaker 1: with yet. Okay, because the one thing you said, you know,

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Speaker 1: not to downplay CINCINAI uh, Cincinnati. Uh. The one thing

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Speaker 1: is just about the time you start getting to a

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Speaker 1: point that you feel like, uh, this is homecoming. You know,

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Speaker 1: you start feeling like this, Oh, this week, we got

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Speaker 1: an easy one. Oh, this week, it's gonna Then all

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Speaker 1: of a sudden, you realize you the Dallas Cowboys in

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Speaker 1: the New York Jets. You realize that, uh, there's no

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Speaker 1: home coming in the NFL. I've learned that. I've been

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Speaker 1: long enough to know that. Just about the time you

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Speaker 1: start thinking, uh, oh man, this is homecoming, you find

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Speaker 1: out you're that homecoming opponent. You know, people sneak upon you.

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Speaker 1: So you know, we've we've got an opportunity this week

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Speaker 1: go out and compete, which is what the game is

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Speaker 1: all about. We've got a chance to. Uh, we got

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Speaker 1: a chance to plus a little bit and work, work,

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Speaker 1: work hard, and and try to get back on track.

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Speaker 1: We've certainly got a chance to do that. Uh. We're

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Speaker 1: going up to Cincinnati. I wish they were coming here,

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Speaker 1: you know, but we gotta go up there and fight.

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Speaker 1: We gotta compete. Cincinnati has got a good bunch of

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Speaker 1: guys on defense. They've got a nose tackle is one

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Speaker 1: of the best in ball. He could record the game

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Speaker 1: by himself. I've played him a couple of times, so

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Speaker 1: they've got, you know, they've got some some talent. They've

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Speaker 1: got some talent on any defense. We got to go

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Speaker 1: up there and just to execute our offense and make

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Speaker 1: it work. Anytime, anytime you guys call me