WEBVTT - Taking a Page From the BA Book

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, hey, Hey, we're back. We're black, We're brown. Ambition, ambition,

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<v Speaker 1>am buddy, Mandy. I'm having a hell out of my work.

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<v Speaker 2>It's only Monday, so it's literally like four hours into

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<v Speaker 2>the work week.

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<v Speaker 1>This is this is gonna be the complain of episode,

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<v Speaker 1>so I might as well start on June tenth week.

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<v Speaker 2>How did you?

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<v Speaker 1>How are you?

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<v Speaker 2>Girl? Well, I have to remember this time to say

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<v Speaker 2>Happy Juneteenth because it's going to be Wednesday when we

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<v Speaker 2>air this show. It's a federal holiday, and I am

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<v Speaker 2>so happy. The ancestors are pleased. However, the children are

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<v Speaker 2>going to be home, so it's my my precious, my

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<v Speaker 2>precious workday is fucked. But husband is also going to

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<v Speaker 2>be home, so I'm just like m be super bad.

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<v Speaker 2>But yes, Happy Juneteenth and to all who celebrate. I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like this coming weekend, I live in Greenberg, which

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<v Speaker 2>is don't put that in the show. People already kind

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<v Speaker 2>of know. I live in a town in yeah, north

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<v Speaker 2>of a little bit north of Manhattan and the Burbs

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<v Speaker 2>that is like historically black and has a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>like cultural significance, and they are doing a Juneteenth celebration

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<v Speaker 2>on this coming weekends. I might do that well, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I live in blackly black black black NewYork, so you do.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm sure there's going to be a just.

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<v Speaker 2>Walk out the door and say hello. I know, like

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<v Speaker 2>it shouldn't. We don't need to perform. That's why I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like a Juneteenth does not have to be about performative,

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<v Speaker 2>like you know whatever. But for me, it's not like

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<v Speaker 2>a Father's Day, like okay, my Father's Day, Mother's Day

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<v Speaker 2>kind of like I enjoy them to a certain extent,

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<v Speaker 2>but also I'm just like, why are we putting this

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<v Speaker 2>pressure on ourselves around this like random Sunday, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>as a Hallmark card industry or whatever invented it and

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<v Speaker 2>all that. But Juneteenth, I just like, like, let's just

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<v Speaker 2>be kind and celebrate each other. I love that. We

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<v Speaker 2>need it to not be in February for fucking once,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean. So I'm happy we got

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<v Speaker 2>like a little June. If the Pride, if the LGBTQA

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<v Speaker 2>plus community will allow us to steal one day of

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<v Speaker 2>Pride month, happy pride as well to everybody who celebrates.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I just you know, I just came out

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<v Speaker 2>of group therapy, so I'm.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, how was that is that your first session.

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<v Speaker 2>Now I've been doing group therapy the hour before the podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>It's kind of not the most idea. It's fine, but

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just like in the group therapy, like turning my

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<v Speaker 2>camera off so I can put some concealer on, get

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<v Speaker 2>ready for the show. It's been Yeah, I'm really glad

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<v Speaker 2>that I have it. I honestly think individual therapy and

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<v Speaker 2>group therapy at the same time. I am like, this

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<v Speaker 2>is a good recipe for me per se.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that.

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<v Speaker 2>And for randomly Amy Poehler, who I just her to

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<v Speaker 2>do an interview and she said that she you know

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<v Speaker 2>Amy Poehler from Parks and Rack, and yeah, She's like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm an individual and group therapy and I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>let me do uh And I'm in two groups, so

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<v Speaker 2>I got Monday and Thursday. Anyway. Yeah, it's been actually

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<v Speaker 2>really a difficult few days. But I feel a lot

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<v Speaker 2>better than I did before group therapy. I got a

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<v Speaker 2>little weep beatering it, but I don't know, I feel

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<v Speaker 2>what is it about hearing a little bit of like

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<v Speaker 2>a drama, corporate drama and seeing your face It just

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<v Speaker 2>brought me back a little bit. Thank God for this show.

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<v Speaker 1>Is this a dress? Our shirt.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a dress. This dress is like the best

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<v Speaker 2>investment I've ever got, like a you want Bridgerton, but

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<v Speaker 2>this is like giving thank you. I'm like, it's giving,

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<v Speaker 2>it's giving. Regency Bridgerton Season three. I don't I know

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<v Speaker 2>you don't watch it, but for the girls?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you crazy? I watched all I'm currently it. Yes, Tiffany,

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<v Speaker 1>watch all of all the Bridgeton's. Tell me that I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't get into Queen Charlotte, but now I loved all

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<v Speaker 1>the seasons.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh did I not know that? What I could have

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<v Speaker 2>been texting you? Oh my god, I'm so excited.

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<v Speaker 1>I was. I said I did not want the whole

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<v Speaker 1>split up. I said no, no, I waited until all

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<v Speaker 1>the episodes dropped, and now I'm on the episode three.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, yeah, you won't get me, Shanda, I will

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<v Speaker 1>not be Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, then I would love to hear your take. So

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<v Speaker 2>you're not even you haven't done the back half? Okay, Tiffany,

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, you think you know someone? You think

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<v Speaker 2>a girl like that's my girl. I was like, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not going to text her because she's like it doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>even watch TV.

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<v Speaker 1>I made I did time for Bridgeton. I actually really

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<v Speaker 1>enjoy it. It's like a nice little.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so good. Yeah, people are giving what we can

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<v Speaker 2>talk about. The people are giving a lot of shit

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<v Speaker 2>to the black couple, the Mandraches. Do you know Alice

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<v Speaker 2>and Will who owned the bar, the club and the.

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<v Speaker 1>Baron.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so it's really hard to just I miss the

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<v Speaker 2>days when I could escape into a sh show and

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<v Speaker 2>just think about the show. Now you have, I know

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<v Speaker 2>so much about how shows get made, the screenwriters, the showrunners.

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<v Speaker 2>You know about Shonda, she's a celebrity, the casting choices,

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<v Speaker 2>the casting dramas, who's put in different roles? And why

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<v Speaker 2>do they bring some characters forward? And like why is

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<v Speaker 2>friend us good not around for the first two seasons

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<v Speaker 2>and now they were, like all the backworkings start to

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<v Speaker 2>like fog up your mind, and like I know that

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<v Speaker 2>they listen. There was not a featured prominent black couple

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<v Speaker 2>in the show that aims to be so inclusive. There's

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of like, listen, we know Shonda loves the swirl,

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<v Speaker 2>and as a product of swirling, I too, I too

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<v Speaker 2>enjoy it. Okay, However, I understand the importance of having

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<v Speaker 2>like a real, non toxic, healthy black couple and I

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<v Speaker 2>see the showrunners trying to lift them up, but the

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<v Speaker 2>Internet's trying to tear them down about fast forward and

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<v Speaker 2>through them.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I don't. There's just people are just so aggy,

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<v Speaker 1>so I don't you know, No, I look so cute.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah they are. And I love the fact that she's

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<v Speaker 1>out here like, okay jewels and I love right she.

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<v Speaker 2>Was like, oh my lady's clothes suck, but the jewelry

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<v Speaker 2>can stay.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that for them. State farm agents are small

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<v Speaker 1>business owners too, so they know how to help you

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<v Speaker 1>choose personalized policies that figure needs, like a good neighbor.

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<v Speaker 1>State farm is there? Talk to your local agent today?

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<v Speaker 1>Can I complain now? Okay? Yes, So I mean it's

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<v Speaker 1>nothing major me. I mean, I mean the in the

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<v Speaker 1>grand scheme of things. So if you notice the background

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<v Speaker 1>looks empty, right, yeah, you would think. So I was

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to move last week, which was a big deal. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>moving out of announce it right here, Yes that Joel

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<v Speaker 1>and I have into my condo. Girl, I'm still here.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, but there's no stuff behind you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So but if I look at them right there

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<v Speaker 1>is So I hire this company called Piece of Cake Moving.

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<v Speaker 1>It was not a piece of cake. It was a

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<v Speaker 1>piece of rock, a piece of coal, a piece of coal,

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<v Speaker 1>a piece of Yes. So I will say this that

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<v Speaker 1>the two guys were nice, two Hispanic guys, young. They

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<v Speaker 1>were really nice, but it was very clear that they

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<v Speaker 1>were like not equipped a few things.

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<v Speaker 2>One, you know, you have only two for that big

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<v Speaker 2>old house. Okay, everything, I'm sure scortage?

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<v Speaker 1>How much everything is? Two people? Two people? And they

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<v Speaker 1>he said, oh my goodness, he said, thank goodness, I

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<v Speaker 1>brought extra box. I had only brought ten ten boxes

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<v Speaker 1>to move. Who were packing you up? Yes, they were

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<v Speaker 1>packing me up? And so he had only twenty five boxes.

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<v Speaker 1>I had to go to home Deepot myself.

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<v Speaker 2>I was gonna say, they better go to home depot.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, no I went because he was like, this

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<v Speaker 1>is basically like I guess based upon whatever you tell

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<v Speaker 1>piece of Cake, they tell them here's how many boxes.

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<v Speaker 1>Because he was telling me basically that you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>guess their contractors and like piece of Cake charges them

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<v Speaker 1>for the boxes, you know, like you know that way

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<v Speaker 1>they know, I guess you bring back what you don't use,

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<v Speaker 1>so they know how many boxes you actually like moved,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. Anyway, and so it was just and they

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<v Speaker 1>were like, I said, really nice, Thak, I here nine am.

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<v Speaker 1>I can only move into my condo between nine am

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<v Speaker 1>to five pm because they want you to basically keep

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<v Speaker 1>the elevator free, you know. And so I was like okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So by four I was like, yo, we're not done,

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<v Speaker 1>and I said, we have to go. And I only

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<v Speaker 1>live around the corner. So I was like, we have

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<v Speaker 1>to go because I have to at least start moving

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<v Speaker 1>in by like for something, or they're not going to

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<v Speaker 1>let me. And now we have this truck you know,

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<v Speaker 1>that's piled to the you know high with all the stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, we we we started to move in

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<v Speaker 1>and some dude on the on the air. I wish

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<v Speaker 1>I would have seen him on the So we have

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<v Speaker 1>two elevators. We have a service elevator, which is an

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<v Speaker 1>obvious service elevator because it's the old school with the gate,

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<v Speaker 1>and then we have a regular elevator. So they're on

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<v Speaker 1>the service elevator moving me in and he said. One

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<v Speaker 1>of the guys was like, you know, are we allowed

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<v Speaker 1>to use this elevator. I was like yeah, he said,

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<v Speaker 1>because this guy got on and he said, you're using

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<v Speaker 1>the elevator. You're not supposed to be using this elevator, YadA, YadA, YadA.

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<v Speaker 1>And he was like, but this is the service elevator.

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<v Speaker 1>I say yes, and he's wrong. It's the there's a

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<v Speaker 1>front elevator that's clearly like a regular elevator. And I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, don't even worry about him. And then like,

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<v Speaker 1>you're supposed to be done by five. Of course I

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't done until like five forty five. And my one

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<v Speaker 1>of my friends who's in the building, she's like, girl,

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<v Speaker 1>are you about to get in trouble because last time

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't done until nine pm. And I got a

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<v Speaker 1>little nasty email for management. I was like, girl, anybody

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<v Speaker 1>will tell girl four fifty girl that man on the

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<v Speaker 1>elevator could not wait to tell my black dad. First

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<v Speaker 1>of all, I was gonna be petty, but I said, tivity.

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, you is kind of wrong because you

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<v Speaker 1>were you know, not meaning like I was. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I was there longer than I anticipated.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's just that you can't be moving stuff. You

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<v Speaker 2>can be in your building. You own the play.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah exactly. And so they wrote me. So management

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<v Speaker 1>wrote me at five poin fifty three meanwhile, I have

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<v Speaker 1>until five, five fifty three or four, I mean four

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<v Speaker 1>fifty three. So I looked at the email. So I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't see obviously until much later. But the email said, hey, Tiffany,

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<v Speaker 1>you know got to complain that you're using that you

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<v Speaker 1>that you held up both elevators, which is not true

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<v Speaker 1>because the all the elevator is too small even to

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<v Speaker 1>move into, so that's not true. And then too that

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<v Speaker 1>you that you were moved, that you were moving in

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<v Speaker 1>past time. I thought you said you were going to

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<v Speaker 1>come this morning, because that's what they had told me,

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<v Speaker 1>that they'd be done by the morning. I said, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, management, like they did tell me they were

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be done by the morning. They weren't. Obviously, I

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<v Speaker 1>was cognizant of the time, I said, let me not

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<v Speaker 1>cop to nothing in this email. I was cognizant of

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<v Speaker 1>the time, you know. And it took certainly took a

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<v Speaker 1>little longer than I thought. I said, I didn't use

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<v Speaker 1>both elevators. And also I wanted to say, girl, it

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<v Speaker 1>is four fifty three. I can't possibly be pastime. It

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<v Speaker 1>ain't passed the time when you said this email. But

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<v Speaker 1>I said, I wasn't sure if I was going down

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<v Speaker 1>that hill. Since I was late, I said, let me.

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<v Speaker 2>Leave it like Tiffany, we're leaving. We're leaving a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit early today. But now we got to respond to

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<v Speaker 2>this evening.

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<v Speaker 1>That's exactly what it was. It was giving girl, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>out at five, so I'm not for a second. But

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<v Speaker 1>so I wrote her back and wrote her that she

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<v Speaker 1>ain't right back yet, so I'm sure she Here's the thing,

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<v Speaker 1>I get it that ain't don't care, she don't live here.

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<v Speaker 1>She's just responding, you know, whenever somebody complains. And so

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<v Speaker 1>I was telling my friend in the building and she

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<v Speaker 1>was like, girl, you gotta get these people streaked. That's

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<v Speaker 1>what I tell to the neighbors are the movers. The neighbors.

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<v Speaker 1>She said, you gotta get these because every once in

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<v Speaker 1>a while, somebody here thinks they can play with you,

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<v Speaker 1>so you gotta let them know you're not the one

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<v Speaker 1>or the two.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, okay, okay, listen. Nothing makes you want

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<v Speaker 2>to be a recluse more than neighbors. Sometimes it's just.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, like you're in eighth grade.

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<v Speaker 2>We have the most toxic, petty neighbor who's retired and

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<v Speaker 2>she literally is a window twitcher. I leave my house,

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<v Speaker 2>I go talk to my friend across the street, and

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<v Speaker 2>you see the curtains twitch, and I'm just like, there

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<v Speaker 2>she is again. She will wait for the smallest thing.

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<v Speaker 2>She has a bone to pick with my neighbor across

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<v Speaker 2>the street because she's a white woman. And this is

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<v Speaker 2>an older black woman, like the elder of the town,

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<v Speaker 2>who really is suspicious of the new blood, including myself,

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<v Speaker 2>including me, because I'm no better even though I'm black,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm still young. I got like a you know, racially

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<v Speaker 2>ambiguous children, like where am I from? I'm not from

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<v Speaker 2>this anyway. And she has complained on them for the

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<v Speaker 2>grasses too high. Meanwhile, we don't have an h OA.

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<v Speaker 2>There's no rules. There are town ordinances, but she makes

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<v Speaker 2>sure she enforces them just because she's a concerned citizen,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. So the grass is too high. She made

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<v Speaker 2>her cut down a baby tree because the baby tree

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<v Speaker 2>was blocking the a baby pine tree. It was so

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<v Speaker 2>cute anyway, because it was blocking the corner that she

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<v Speaker 2>does not even drive down anyway. Neighbors man, Yeah, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>For the most part, in the building, everybody's been I

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<v Speaker 1>know exactly who it was. I said, I know it's you, Tom,

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<v Speaker 1>that's not his name, but you know, but I knew

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<v Speaker 1>exactly who it was because they were like, is it

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<v Speaker 1>okay because the man's I said, what man? They're like

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<v Speaker 1>these white man. I was like, So I was just like, yes, anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're listening to which I know you're not, I

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<v Speaker 1>could use that elevator.

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<v Speaker 2>Does Tom know that he lives in Newark?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean so honestly, like I said, for the most part,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, the place, it looks absolutely stunning and the

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<v Speaker 1>buildings really, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, the pictures you sent, Oh my goodness, you haven't

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<v Speaker 2>even seen like I mean, it's just like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the neighbor's actually really nice.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, that's like my only one little grip.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I was more so there was not a

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<v Speaker 1>piece of cake, because honestly, they didn't I'm still here.

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<v Speaker 1>We had such short time. They couldn't move my bed,

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<v Speaker 1>they couldn't move Alyssa's bed, they couldn't move my chair,

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<v Speaker 1>like like the half the house. And it's just so

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<v Speaker 1>now I'm like, I'm wearing a gym shirt because this

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<v Speaker 1>is all like, you know, this is the only the

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<v Speaker 1>clothes I have here. So I'm like kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>in limbo, so I do have to ask for our audience.

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<v Speaker 1>I really need a one of those people called professional

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<v Speaker 1>home organizers, someone that could come in and like put

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<v Speaker 1>away my clothes. So I do have the bussing is

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<v Speaker 1>a woman who owned my place before put in these

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<v Speaker 1>systems called Alpha e L like alpha systems. Yes, so

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<v Speaker 1>every closet has those, including my master closset. So but

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<v Speaker 1>I need someone to come in. It's not so much

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<v Speaker 1>to hang up my clothes. I know do that obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>but I want like someone to like, you know, like

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<v Speaker 1>to because she had her own system. She had like

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<v Speaker 1>you know, so I want someone to come in and

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<v Speaker 1>be like, Okay, we can use these shoes, but we

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<v Speaker 1>need like these polls or whatever, you know, like basically

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<v Speaker 1>to reorganize a classic Oh.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, oh yeah, that's a good use of money.

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<v Speaker 1>I know. And so like I'm excited. So if you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like a home organizer, that's just because here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to I mean, I know I can

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<v Speaker 1>do it, but I know that it's going to be raggedy.

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<v Speaker 1>And then when I don't have a system a place,

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<v Speaker 1>that's when I get messy. You know, I'm like a preschooler.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to label every area of the classroom and

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<v Speaker 1>I'll put the blocks away, but you just got to

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<v Speaker 1>tell me where's the block area? And so yeah, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>honestly I'm looking for someone. I started to call around,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know I'm in New Jersey. So anybody in

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<v Speaker 1>that area and just slide into my DMS on the budgetista,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, just yeah, message me, yeah, just because honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm really.

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<v Speaker 2>Let them really well, because that is such one of

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<v Speaker 2>the jobs where you could really be shitty at it

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<v Speaker 2>and like it can be like a side hustle. I

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<v Speaker 2>just feel like I'm like, get those home edit girls. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>once you're on GMA all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>I really think that I would really like is someone

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<v Speaker 1>who has a company, not just a one off like

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<v Speaker 1>this is not a task rabbit. I would love for

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<v Speaker 1>someone who's like, oh, this is my company. I have

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<v Speaker 1>two or three women that work with me. That's really

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<v Speaker 1>the vibe I'm going for. So there's one woman like

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<v Speaker 1>I reached out to and I was like, girl, at

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<v Speaker 1>these prices, I could buy a new condo, are you guys.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it's not going to be cheap. I imagine, like

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<v Speaker 2>what's the budget, Like, what do you think you're gonna have?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even know. But she told me between I

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<v Speaker 1>think she's one fugeen an hour, and I'm like, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I feel like a few thousand dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but I mean the thing is it and that's

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<v Speaker 1>just she's like for phase two and here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I expected to pay a few thousand, but the way

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<v Speaker 1>she's breaking it down, I'm like, I'm not paying ten

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<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars to close away because the way, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like I just not you know, Like so I don't

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I don't know. My budget is under five

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<v Speaker 1>I guess, but the way the way she's telling me,

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to take so long, I'm like, girl, this

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<v Speaker 1>is gonna be like I said, I'm not paying someone

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<v Speaker 1>ten thousand hous clothes away. I will just live in

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<v Speaker 1>a mess.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I like a flat rate.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't let me to house, give me a flat rate.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't mind. If she would have told me here's

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<v Speaker 1>five boom boom, I would have paid it. But like

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<v Speaker 1>this hourly and it's probably gonna take this and that's

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<v Speaker 1>just phase one and that that girl. Yeah, yeah, so

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna see if I can, because I really actually

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<v Speaker 1>did like her, and because she's a small business woman,

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<v Speaker 1>own business, and I am I'm gonna say, can you

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<v Speaker 1>give me a this morning? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly, so you know an interior designer in Jersey, not

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<v Speaker 2>your girl, but another one, and I'll ask if she

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<v Speaker 2>knows any.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, please, but yeah, just that's it. Piece of cake was.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. We did get a comment from a mom who's like,

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<v Speaker 2>this episode was marked safe for children or whatever the

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<v Speaker 2>rating is, but it was it should have been marked

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<v Speaker 2>E And I was like, I don't know, you know

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<v Speaker 2>your kids will be fine.

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<v Speaker 1>Right have these babies don't even know what we're talking about.

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<v Speaker 2>The way that I try to sneak in a little

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<v Speaker 2>like I'll see song in the car, Like I tried

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<v Speaker 2>to play a little cowboy card the other day. River

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<v Speaker 2>Dance came on and I was like, this beat is great.

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<v Speaker 2>First of all, Remy, oh my god, Remy loves music.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, is he gonna be a dancer? Is he

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be an artist or some kind? Is he gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be in Broadway? Am I gonna finally get to be

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<v Speaker 2>a Broadway stage mom? But he loves a beat, like oh,

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<v Speaker 2>his little body just can't he can't help. But he's

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<v Speaker 2>got a claps. He starts to try to sing. Oh

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<v Speaker 2>my god, I'm like, is this what Beyonce did when

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<v Speaker 2>she was a baby?

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<v Speaker 1>Am?

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<v Speaker 2>I like? Is it the next prints? Anyway? But yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I played river dance and it's like, pounce on that shit.

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<v Speaker 2>Dann pounds no hands and is it pounds or bounce?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, but yeah, and I but Rio, Oh

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<v Speaker 2>my god, he is. He's becoming. He like gets so

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<v Speaker 2>quiet when music is on or grown ups are talking.

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<v Speaker 2>The little turkey is listening. Yes, he is listening to everything. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, are you the c I A like, are

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<v Speaker 2>you like shush? I can't talk an and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want him to learn Spanish because that's become

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<v Speaker 2>our secret language. But how are we gonna talk? Should

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<v Speaker 2>have pout the neighbors?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what does Measey told me that she

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<v Speaker 1>saw you at the event, and so what was that event?

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<v Speaker 1>She said, okay, sidebars. She was like this how she

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<v Speaker 1>described She's like Mandy had the most adorable child. I

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<v Speaker 1>head full of curls with her. I was like, that's

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<v Speaker 1>all a little rio.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So oh man, and your sister saw me like

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<v Speaker 2>raggedy as hell. So I Reo graduated kindergarten or pre

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<v Speaker 2>k on Friday and we had his graduation and they

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<v Speaker 2>were like so generous to the parents. They were like,

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<v Speaker 2>here you go, we're releasing your child early. You may

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<v Speaker 2>take them home.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks.

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<v Speaker 2>My publisher Legacy Lit, who I'm writing my book with.

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<v Speaker 2>It was founded by Krishawn Trautman. She needs all the

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<v Speaker 2>flowers because these publishing houses are massive, right, and they

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<v Speaker 2>all have these imprints, and each imprint is run by

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<v Speaker 2>a publisher who's basically a person who's in charge of

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<v Speaker 2>like which books are we going to bid on? How

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<v Speaker 2>much money are we going to you know, which authors

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<v Speaker 2>are we going to go after? And Legacy Lit was

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<v Speaker 2>founded in twenty twenty. We all know that this was

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<v Speaker 2>the year of like, let's right the wrongs in corporate

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<v Speaker 2>America and put all these diversity initiatives. So I think

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of folks probably thought, we're, you know, are

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<v Speaker 2>looking to the publishing industry as well as every other

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<v Speaker 2>industry to be like it's been four years, how committed

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<v Speaker 2>are you to the cause? Are you going to pull back?

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<v Speaker 2>But if anything, Legacy Lit because of Krishan's leadership and

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<v Speaker 2>her vision has just become, you know, enormously successful. She's

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<v Speaker 2>had a New York Times bestseller, Like, she's publishing all

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<v Speaker 2>these incredible books, including Mine to Come. And she partnered

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<v Speaker 2>with this woman owned bookstore in Brooklyn called green Light,

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<v Speaker 2>which is such an exquisite, beautiful store. And she hosted

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<v Speaker 2>like a panel for Juneteenth, like a Juneteenth celebration, and

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<v Speaker 2>it was catered by Al Roker's daughter, Courtney, because she's

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<v Speaker 2>also a Legacy Lit author. And they were a few

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<v Speaker 2>Legacy Lit authors who have recent books out and they

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<v Speaker 2>each read an excerpt from their books. And I think Tracy,

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<v Speaker 2>Tracy and Krishan know each other.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, because I forget they met via like another publicist

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<v Speaker 1>introduced them or whatever, and then you know, Coshan trying

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<v Speaker 1>to sign me, and then they just became cool. Now

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<v Speaker 1>they're like, you know, they're like they're they're colleague friends,

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<v Speaker 1>so they support each other like they have actually working meetings.

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<v Speaker 1>She loves Croissan.

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<v Speaker 2>They seem like, yeah, they seem like a vibe. And

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<v Speaker 2>your sister, I forgot. I'm like, she's so tall and

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<v Speaker 2>statue esque and stunning, and I brought But the reason

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<v Speaker 2>I brought up Rio is because I brought him with me.

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<v Speaker 2>That was like a really convoluted way of telling that story.

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<v Speaker 2>I brought him with me on the train. I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to take the train to the city. You

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<v Speaker 2>want to come. He was so excited until we were like,

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<v Speaker 2>we did the Metro North. That was cool for him.

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<v Speaker 2>Then we get on the four train from Harlem one

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<v Speaker 2>twenty fifth and you got to go all the way

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<v Speaker 2>to Brooklyn. Y'all, it's a ride. Oh, it's expressed, but

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<v Speaker 2>it's not that expressed. And halfway through he's like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>let's go back home. And I was like, oh baby,

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<v Speaker 2>it's the journey, not the destination. And then we got

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<v Speaker 2>off the train torrential downpour, torrential downpour, no umbrella, and

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<v Speaker 2>I wear dressed for summer sandals, like shorts. Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 2>So I was like, but good thing. Rio and I

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<v Speaker 2>kind of like he loves a little mischief and I

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<v Speaker 2>love a little mischief. Enrique and Remy would not have

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<v Speaker 2>been having that, but me and Rio were like, it's

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<v Speaker 2>an adventure. How big can you jump over this puddle?

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<v Speaker 2>Not that big? Because he got his shoes soaking wet

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<v Speaker 2>and we showed up to the bookstore looking like two

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<v Speaker 2>drowned rats. But it was a real fun event and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm really glad that I went on my way to

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<v Speaker 2>go because I love being a part of this publisher

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<v Speaker 2>and just everything Krishan and her associate editor, Amina, who

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<v Speaker 2>really championed me. She was like, Krishan, I know me

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<v Speaker 2>and she's from Brown and Vish and you need to

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<v Speaker 2>like what's been on this book. So thank you to

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<v Speaker 2>Amina really for advocating. But what an incredible Yeah, what

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<v Speaker 2>an incredible woman, and her legacy literally needs to live on.

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<v Speaker 2>So I was happy to go, Oh that's great.

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<v Speaker 1>Honestly, I love that. And like so when you I

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<v Speaker 1>was doing a little key key with a friend of

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<v Speaker 1>mine who owns who has access to this this back

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<v Speaker 1>end portal called book scan. Have you heard a book

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<v Speaker 1>scan before?

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<v Speaker 2>Through you? Yeah, it's like where the analytics come through.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, yeah, well only only physical books, so anytime basically

0:22:26.920 --> 0:22:28.679
<v Speaker 1>book scan is literally just that. Anytime a book of

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<v Speaker 1>scani literally a physical book of scan, then it's a

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<v Speaker 1>it's a pop. I mean, obviously book scan, I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>they missed some things, but even whether it's Amazon, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't matter, like any book that scanned it like

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<v Speaker 1>aggregates to this program and it's just a great like

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<v Speaker 1>if you obviously, like I'm sure Kashan has access or

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<v Speaker 1>if maybe you are like a publicist to like publishers

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever or to authors. So it doesn't really make

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<v Speaker 1>sense cause it's like four thousand dollars a year, so

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't make sense for like the average just to

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<v Speaker 1>look at your well friend of mine has it and

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know. So we was like Kei King, and

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<v Speaker 1>she's like, tip me, you know, I don't think you

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<v Speaker 1>want to how well your book did. I'm like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I know it did good. She's like, no, I find

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<v Speaker 1>to show you. And so we were putting in so

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<v Speaker 1>she put in my you know, my book, and I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, okay, so I know when I look at

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<v Speaker 1>the Penguin behind the scenes, because if you have a

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<v Speaker 1>Publis show, you get to see your numbers only only.

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<v Speaker 1>So I sold just under three hundred thousand books, but

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<v Speaker 1>that's in total. It says like physical books, audiobooks, Kindle,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like these digital books. I said, okay, about

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<v Speaker 1>three hundred thousand, and so she said, let's look at

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<v Speaker 1>and I knew that. On the penguin side, it shows

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<v Speaker 1>me about fifty percent of your book sold our physical books.

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<v Speaker 1>So when she showed me, she's like, look, you sold

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred and forty two Since your book came out,

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<v Speaker 1>you sold one hundred and forty two thousand copies, which

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<v Speaker 1>that tracks based upon what you know. I see her penguin.

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<v Speaker 1>So then I was like, let's can we see what

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<v Speaker 1>can we see?

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<v Speaker 2>Ricocheted my ear. I have never mastered the pop.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, can we see what the other girl

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<v Speaker 1>I like to see? No, I was like, look, honestly, well,

0:24:06.680 --> 0:24:09.720
<v Speaker 1>I mean honestly, the girls are to compare, but I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to see mostly really I wanted to see because

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<v Speaker 1>the thing is, there are some books the marketing side

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<v Speaker 1>looks so great, but I wanted to see how did

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<v Speaker 1>it translate for sales. Because what she was trying to

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<v Speaker 1>show me, my friend was trying to show me. She

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<v Speaker 1>said that she's concerned because black and brown books are

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<v Speaker 1>not selling like they ought to, and it's not it

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<v Speaker 1>means that they're going to give less and less money

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<v Speaker 1>to black and brown authors, you know. So she was

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<v Speaker 1>showing me, like, look at this person that she pulled

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<v Speaker 1>up like I say, like a Ryan Holliday. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh wow, you know. And then she was like, but

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<v Speaker 1>then let's pull up somebody comparable in the space for

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<v Speaker 1>black and brown. And she's like, look, I'm like, oh wow,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. So I was one number that I was

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<v Speaker 1>really surprised at is that I'm trying to think I

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<v Speaker 1>should say her name. I mean, she she did great,

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<v Speaker 1>but it made me realize just because I was wondering,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, why is Penguins me like that girl? Anybody

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<v Speaker 1>else I'll give books. So I was just share because

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<v Speaker 1>she's awesome. We all love Miss Tabitha Brown me you

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<v Speaker 1>want me a Tabitha the same age, but you know,

0:25:05.240 --> 0:25:06.680
<v Speaker 1>we all call her Auntie tab.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm on the show Tabatha.

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<v Speaker 1>So Tabitha Tabitha is amazing. So she sold. So her

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<v Speaker 1>book came out the same year as Mind twenty twenty one.

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<v Speaker 1>This is just physical books. I'm sure her audio.

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<v Speaker 2>Memoir Feeding the Soul or yes, something about yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So the very first book the yellow cover and it

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<v Speaker 1>said since twenty twenty one, this how many books were scanned,

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<v Speaker 1>about one hundred and seventy five thousand copies. And I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, which is amazing, but since you know, since

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty one, I've sold one hundred and forty two thousand,

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<v Speaker 1>I could not believe that was even in the same

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<v Speaker 1>arena as Taba. I mean, Jabeth brid Is ginormous and

0:25:44.960 --> 0:25:48.360
<v Speaker 1>lovely was like, that is why you're you're your publisher

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<v Speaker 1>is sweating you, she said, Tiffany, because you're putting up

0:25:50.720 --> 0:25:52.320
<v Speaker 1>Tabatha numbers. But I bet you they didn't give you

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<v Speaker 1>Tabath the money.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, Oh, where's your line at Target?

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<v Speaker 1>What to say?

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<v Speaker 2>Where's your line at you know? And Brandon's strong, baby strong,

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<v Speaker 2>you know.

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<v Speaker 1>So it just was just like these are these It

0:26:06.359 --> 0:26:08.600
<v Speaker 1>was just such a good eye opening, you know. So

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<v Speaker 1>it was like, you know, not shade obviously, because those

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<v Speaker 1>are huge numbers. I didn't know that my numbers compared. Honestly.

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<v Speaker 1>I just say all that to say that I just

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<v Speaker 1>assumed that like you here and I'm here, and that

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<v Speaker 1>you know, but no, So I just say all that

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<v Speaker 1>to say.

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<v Speaker 2>That I love that your friend gave you. I teached

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<v Speaker 2>you a little bit about it, but that you know,

0:26:28.160 --> 0:26:31.920
<v Speaker 2>that kind of information is power, and like you said,

0:26:32.000 --> 0:26:35.040
<v Speaker 2>it's gate cap, it's kept not I mean, it's available

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<v Speaker 2>if you got four g's to drop on it. But

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<v Speaker 2>if you're not an industry insider, how would you know

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<v Speaker 2>that would I'm similar, Yeah, it's similar for anyone who

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<v Speaker 2>wants to know their value. Like, you don't know until

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<v Speaker 2>you compare, and it's such a you know, and until

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<v Speaker 2>you see your comparable people in the market and how

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<v Speaker 2>they're doing, and then you can like, cause.

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<v Speaker 1>Girl, like I'm here, and some of the girls get

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<v Speaker 1>like because you know, Like, I mean, I had a

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<v Speaker 1>I had a I had a good first book deal,

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<v Speaker 1>but like, if I'm being candid, my second book deal

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't reflective of the sales that I made. Like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't get I didn't sign a second book because

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<v Speaker 1>I refused. I was like this, this new number, Remember

0:27:09.760 --> 0:27:12.600
<v Speaker 1>we talked about the number. The new number wasn't it

0:27:12.640 --> 0:27:14.560
<v Speaker 1>was too close to the old number. And I mean

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<v Speaker 1>at the time, I didn't know what I did what

0:27:16.240 --> 0:27:19.240
<v Speaker 1>I did in comparison to other people, but I knew

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<v Speaker 1>that I had done relatively well, and I was like, girl,

0:27:22.440 --> 0:27:24.119
<v Speaker 1>this looked like the same as what you gave me

0:27:24.119 --> 0:27:26.840
<v Speaker 1>the first time. It's not too far off. And so

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<v Speaker 1>knowing now in comparison to like what the what's happening

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<v Speaker 1>in the industry. They really, I mean I knew they

0:27:33.040 --> 0:27:34.720
<v Speaker 1>kind of tried it, but I realized, oh, they super

0:27:34.720 --> 0:27:37.119
<v Speaker 1>tried it because I'm like, not me having some of

0:27:37.119 --> 0:27:39.840
<v Speaker 1>the numbers this table thing, and you're giving me like

0:27:40.000 --> 0:27:43.040
<v Speaker 1>old Tiffany, you know, money. So anyway, like I'm not

0:27:43.040 --> 0:27:44.840
<v Speaker 1>ready to write because I know they'd be listening, Hey girl,

0:27:44.840 --> 0:27:47.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm out, but I'm not ready to write another book now,

0:27:47.520 --> 0:27:50.000
<v Speaker 1>even though they're they be swayny, but I'll sweat me

0:27:50.040 --> 0:27:53.359
<v Speaker 1>too because here's the thing about me, Like I'm gonna

0:27:53.359 --> 0:27:55.240
<v Speaker 1>go with the money calls, just so we're clear, because

0:27:55.240 --> 0:27:58.040
<v Speaker 1>I know you listen to hey girl, because I know

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<v Speaker 1>they're still talking about out the book marketing that my

0:28:02.800 --> 0:28:05.439
<v Speaker 1>team and I did Forget Her with money. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't do the same for Maidehole because I was

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<v Speaker 1>heavily in grief and even still Madehole has done very well.

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<v Speaker 1>It's sold in total about twenty two or twenty five

0:28:14.160 --> 0:28:17.520
<v Speaker 1>thousand copies since it came out in November, and about

0:28:17.600 --> 0:28:19.560
<v Speaker 1>seventeen thousand that was in book Scan because that's the

0:28:19.560 --> 0:28:22.280
<v Speaker 1>physical So Maide Whole is mostly selling physical because it's

0:28:22.280 --> 0:28:24.679
<v Speaker 1>a work book. Yeah, so that's really great for like,

0:28:24.720 --> 0:28:26.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, first few months out or whatever. So I

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<v Speaker 1>just say all that to say that my now that

0:28:29.560 --> 0:28:32.520
<v Speaker 1>I know my numbers now is when I do want

0:28:32.560 --> 0:28:35.280
<v Speaker 1>to write another book, we're negotiating differently, and if not

0:28:35.320 --> 0:28:37.680
<v Speaker 1>you somebody will pay me because you want top of

0:28:37.760 --> 0:28:39.600
<v Speaker 1>the brown numbers. Oh okay, well I bring that to

0:28:39.600 --> 0:28:44.320
<v Speaker 1>the Z book. What'd you give to coolha? So yeah,

0:28:44.360 --> 0:28:45.920
<v Speaker 1>I just like it was just such a really great

0:28:46.560 --> 0:28:49.040
<v Speaker 1>eye opener and another one that was kind of like

0:28:49.080 --> 0:28:52.080
<v Speaker 1>not shocking, but you know we all love for meat.

0:28:52.400 --> 0:28:55.080
<v Speaker 1>His so his book I Will Teach You to Be

0:28:55.120 --> 0:28:57.600
<v Speaker 1>which his first iteration came out in two thousand and nine,

0:28:58.320 --> 0:29:01.320
<v Speaker 1>and they stopped selling it toy nineteen because they have

0:29:01.440 --> 0:29:04.080
<v Speaker 1>the New Iteration. So from two thousand and twenty nineteen

0:29:04.200 --> 0:29:07.360
<v Speaker 1>he sold about one one seventy five. I just assumed

0:29:07.360 --> 0:29:11.160
<v Speaker 1>for me had sold, yes, well just physical books, remember

0:29:11.280 --> 0:29:15.040
<v Speaker 1>just physical books. But now you know his new book

0:29:15.080 --> 0:29:18.880
<v Speaker 1>the New Iteration, because he had a version two it

0:29:18.920 --> 0:29:22.239
<v Speaker 1>had because of his obviously, Netflix has blowed him out

0:29:22.240 --> 0:29:24.160
<v Speaker 1>of the water. I mean the Meat was already tremendous,

0:29:24.320 --> 0:29:28.240
<v Speaker 1>but Netflix took his notoriety to another level. That book

0:29:28.400 --> 0:29:32.200
<v Speaker 1>has sold over six hundred and fifty thousand of just

0:29:32.200 --> 0:29:35.160
<v Speaker 1>the physical book, which makes sense. But I would have

0:29:35.200 --> 0:29:37.680
<v Speaker 1>thought I will teach you to be rich that first one.

0:29:37.840 --> 0:29:38.280
<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

0:29:38.440 --> 0:29:41.320
<v Speaker 2>I was like, I know millions, I don't know.

0:29:41.480 --> 0:29:43.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't know in that ten years. So it just

0:29:43.680 --> 0:29:45.320
<v Speaker 1>I just say all that to say so when you

0:29:45.360 --> 0:29:48.680
<v Speaker 1>see someone has sold two thousand and five thousand, ten thousand,

0:29:48.760 --> 0:29:51.720
<v Speaker 1>those are big numbers, because I mean, because this is

0:29:52.160 --> 0:29:54.640
<v Speaker 1>a ten years man, I think. And so I just

0:29:54.640 --> 0:29:56.040
<v Speaker 1>share all that because a friend of mine was like, oh,

0:29:56.080 --> 0:29:58.680
<v Speaker 1>I only sold sixty thousand copies. I'm like, girl, I don't.

0:29:58.800 --> 0:30:01.720
<v Speaker 1>Don't you putting up numbers like sixty.

0:30:02.360 --> 0:30:04.920
<v Speaker 2>I mean that's where the comparison is painful.

0:30:05.320 --> 0:30:07.360
<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, it's so.

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<v Speaker 2>Hard because you you know, it's such a balance. And

0:30:12.000 --> 0:30:15.000
<v Speaker 2>I see because friends of mine have, like a lot

0:30:15.040 --> 0:30:17.440
<v Speaker 2>of friends have come before me, and their books came

0:30:17.440 --> 0:30:20.760
<v Speaker 2>out this year or coming out soon, and it's I

0:30:20.800 --> 0:30:23.680
<v Speaker 2>see them do this dance between wanting to have high

0:30:23.680 --> 0:30:26.640
<v Speaker 2>expectations because you deserve to shoot for the stars, but

0:30:26.640 --> 0:30:32.360
<v Speaker 2>then also wanting to be okay with not reaching whatever

0:30:32.480 --> 0:30:35.200
<v Speaker 2>level you think is the benchmark that you want to reach,

0:30:35.240 --> 0:30:37.440
<v Speaker 2>whether it's getting on a certain list we all know

0:30:37.520 --> 0:30:41.400
<v Speaker 2>the one, or like selling a certain number of copies.

0:30:41.440 --> 0:30:44.400
<v Speaker 2>My friend Julie is a children's book author and she's

0:30:44.400 --> 0:30:47.160
<v Speaker 2>the most freaking I mean not children's I mean she

0:30:47.760 --> 0:30:50.160
<v Speaker 2>always is announcing a new book, and she has several

0:30:50.200 --> 0:30:53.360
<v Speaker 2>that are just like beautiful books, award winning children's books.

0:30:53.400 --> 0:30:57.400
<v Speaker 2>She's amazing. And I think I asked her, like because

0:30:57.680 --> 0:30:59.960
<v Speaker 2>her most recent one, The Truth about Dragons, has got

0:31:00.120 --> 0:31:02.719
<v Speaker 2>so much acclaim and that on so many lists. If

0:31:02.720 --> 0:31:06.200
<v Speaker 2>you have a kid, go grab it. And I asked her, like, oh,

0:31:06.200 --> 0:31:08.320
<v Speaker 2>how many copies did you sell? And she looked at

0:31:08.320 --> 0:31:10.880
<v Speaker 2>me like I had five heads kind of. And it's

0:31:10.880 --> 0:31:13.160
<v Speaker 2>different because it's not nonfiction, right, She's on a business.

0:31:13.400 --> 0:31:14.880
<v Speaker 2>She works in the industry as well. She has a

0:31:14.880 --> 0:31:18.200
<v Speaker 2>full time job and she's writing. But she was like, oh, no, no,

0:31:18.360 --> 0:31:21.040
<v Speaker 2>I don't. I don't look at that ever, I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>That's not it's not even in her like something about

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<v Speaker 2>it with her. I don't know if this is like

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<v Speaker 2>other authors as well, But she does not even think

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<v Speaker 2>about it, doesn't even care. And she's like, and I

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<v Speaker 2>think what she said at the time, I don't want

0:31:34.320 --> 0:31:35.760
<v Speaker 2>to put words in her mouth. I could just text

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<v Speaker 2>her and see. But I think we said at the

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<v Speaker 2>time was something along the lines of like, it's just

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<v Speaker 2>it's not the past. She wants to go down to

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<v Speaker 2>start thinking about the numbers, and you know, and and

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<v Speaker 2>because she has her full time job, she's okay to

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<v Speaker 2>do this. I mean, she still makes you know, healthy advances.

0:31:51.640 --> 0:31:55.080
<v Speaker 2>We did talk about that, but as far as numbers go,

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<v Speaker 2>she just hasn't been focused on it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I guess, you know. And here's the thing, especially,

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<v Speaker 1>I think with children's boks, I wrote, I was shocked

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<v Speaker 1>to see book Scan had Molly Moore on there. I

0:32:03.120 --> 0:32:04.800
<v Speaker 1>was like, how you got I didn't know my Molly

0:32:04.800 --> 0:32:07.240
<v Speaker 1>Moore numbers. To your point, I had never check it

0:32:07.480 --> 0:32:11.160
<v Speaker 1>because well that's because I wrote Molly Moore for the Joy,

0:32:11.280 --> 0:32:13.440
<v Speaker 1>you know. I was like, so, I mean I knew

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<v Speaker 1>we did the Kickstart or whatever, and Molly Moore told

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<v Speaker 1>about fifteen hundred copies. I was like, okay, but I

0:32:18.520 --> 0:32:21.479
<v Speaker 1>had never ever checked. And I got to see the

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<v Speaker 1>one we budget, and I never my Amazon sales. I

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<v Speaker 1>never knew because I don't know if the Amazon makes

0:32:26.200 --> 0:32:28.440
<v Speaker 1>it readily available. So the one we budget my very

0:32:28.440 --> 0:32:31.080
<v Speaker 1>first book that came out twenty eleven that sold like

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<v Speaker 1>twenty two thousand copies. I guess since it came out,

0:32:33.520 --> 0:32:35.360
<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh, these are nice numbers to know,

0:32:35.720 --> 0:32:38.520
<v Speaker 1>gik of money. I was stalking it, but I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to see the work that we did, how did it translate?

0:32:42.080 --> 0:32:45.280
<v Speaker 1>And also to all those other ones those were self published,

0:32:45.360 --> 0:32:48.000
<v Speaker 1>I was like, girl, For me, the numbers means that

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<v Speaker 1>I can attract more money as far as like a contract,

0:32:51.440 --> 0:32:53.880
<v Speaker 1>you know. But for me the other books that I

0:32:53.880 --> 0:32:55.720
<v Speaker 1>self published were just like no, I want, I want

0:32:55.760 --> 0:32:58.400
<v Speaker 1>to get it out there. But I never to Juli's point,

0:32:58.400 --> 0:32:59.760
<v Speaker 1>I had never checked those numbers. I mean, it was

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<v Speaker 1>interesting to see, but you know, and I'm so glad

0:33:02.520 --> 0:33:05.000
<v Speaker 1>I know my numbers because it now means that when

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<v Speaker 1>it's time to like, you know, go back to the

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<v Speaker 1>drawing board or to promote myself again, I know I

0:33:11.040 --> 0:33:15.920
<v Speaker 1>can say, well, here's the thing. I saw the the

0:33:16.800 --> 0:33:20.080
<v Speaker 1>press release that such as such got this seven figure contract.

0:33:20.440 --> 0:33:22.560
<v Speaker 1>I looked up her numbers. I sold more than her.

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<v Speaker 1>You see what I mean? Now I can have that

0:33:24.720 --> 0:33:26.840
<v Speaker 1>kind of conversation when it comes to like that.

0:33:26.800 --> 0:33:30.680
<v Speaker 2>So yes, more informed and goes yes, yeah, yeah, I mean,

0:33:31.560 --> 0:33:35.120
<v Speaker 2>and as a I'm just so glad to know that

0:33:35.200 --> 0:33:37.720
<v Speaker 2>I have like seen your journey of course, and I

0:33:37.720 --> 0:33:41.720
<v Speaker 2>mean you've been so generous but like sharing. But for me,

0:33:42.200 --> 0:33:45.280
<v Speaker 2>as I'm writing this book, those doubts start to come

0:33:45.320 --> 0:33:48.680
<v Speaker 2>in and it's like, you know, it's like everyone has doubts, right,

0:33:49.000 --> 0:33:53.400
<v Speaker 2>it's impossible to escape them. But the doubts say, what

0:33:53.440 --> 0:33:55.160
<v Speaker 2>are you saying that's so different? And what do you

0:33:55.200 --> 0:33:57.600
<v Speaker 2>have to offer? Like there's I go to the library

0:33:57.640 --> 0:33:59.480
<v Speaker 2>and there's like shelves of books and I have checked

0:33:59.480 --> 0:34:01.240
<v Speaker 2>them all out, and I'm like, oh, look, this has

0:34:01.240 --> 0:34:03.600
<v Speaker 2>been written. That's been written. There's a brand new book

0:34:03.600 --> 0:34:05.720
<v Speaker 2>that came out called Negotiating While Black that I just

0:34:05.760 --> 0:34:11.760
<v Speaker 2>picked up that came out this year or last year. Anyway, However,

0:34:12.160 --> 0:34:15.840
<v Speaker 2>my mind, I just have to like put it on

0:34:15.880 --> 0:34:19.040
<v Speaker 2>sticky notes literally on my laptop and like, O rend me.

0:34:19.080 --> 0:34:24.280
<v Speaker 2>When I'm writing, it's like just envision, just envision your audience.

0:34:24.360 --> 0:34:26.359
<v Speaker 2>Just keep thinking about the woman that you're writing for,

0:34:26.680 --> 0:34:28.480
<v Speaker 2>and what is she doing right now. She's not at

0:34:28.480 --> 0:34:32.040
<v Speaker 2>the library reading these books. She's at work, feeling undervalued,

0:34:32.080 --> 0:34:35.920
<v Speaker 2>feeling underpaid, feeling overlooked, feeling like she's token if she

0:34:36.040 --> 0:34:38.640
<v Speaker 2>is getting opportunities as a black woman and feeling like

0:34:39.320 --> 0:34:43.200
<v Speaker 2>how does she leverage those opportunities without falling victim to

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<v Speaker 2>like the naivete that can come with being the token

0:34:46.360 --> 0:34:49.040
<v Speaker 2>of like oh they love me, I'm protected and like,

0:34:49.080 --> 0:34:52.520
<v Speaker 2>oh shit, no, I'm actually not. Like that's what I

0:34:52.520 --> 0:34:54.680
<v Speaker 2>have to keep thinking about, and like if I like

0:34:54.840 --> 0:34:58.200
<v Speaker 2>just talking myself through it, it's just about the woman

0:34:58.239 --> 0:35:01.080
<v Speaker 2>I'm writing for. And if and like to think about

0:35:01.080 --> 0:35:04.759
<v Speaker 2>one hundred thousand, like you're like one hundred thousand or

0:35:04.800 --> 0:35:08.960
<v Speaker 2>one thousand, like one thousand people women just picking up

0:35:09.000 --> 0:35:14.759
<v Speaker 2>my book, adding to Kart, opening the pages, touching them

0:35:14.840 --> 0:35:17.400
<v Speaker 2>like highlighting. I want you to tear this book up, y'all.

0:35:17.920 --> 0:35:21.160
<v Speaker 2>Circle like that is like okay, that's why you're doing

0:35:21.239 --> 0:35:25.920
<v Speaker 2>it at the end of the day, and it's just yeah,

0:35:26.000 --> 0:35:26.680
<v Speaker 2>it's a journey.

0:35:26.800 --> 0:35:27.680
<v Speaker 1>It is.

0:35:27.760 --> 0:35:28.400
<v Speaker 2>It's a journey.

0:35:28.520 --> 0:35:31.120
<v Speaker 1>And the numbers are bigger than you think. Like I said,

0:35:31.160 --> 0:35:34.120
<v Speaker 1>like you sell a thousand books, it said thousand people.

0:35:34.480 --> 0:35:36.319
<v Speaker 1>If right now, thousand people are in your front lawn

0:35:36.360 --> 0:35:38.120
<v Speaker 1>holding your book up, you'd be like, oh my god,

0:35:38.239 --> 0:35:41.399
<v Speaker 1>what's going on? Like yeah, I don't want to give

0:35:41.400 --> 0:35:44.680
<v Speaker 1>ourselves enough and honestly too, Like I said, the numbers

0:35:44.719 --> 0:35:47.040
<v Speaker 1>are not for the most part, as much as we think,

0:35:47.400 --> 0:35:48.719
<v Speaker 1>you know, like it certainly, of course, you know you

0:35:48.760 --> 0:35:51.040
<v Speaker 1>look at Michelle Obama, You're like, oh, yeah, but how

0:35:51.040 --> 0:35:52.919
<v Speaker 1>many of us are Michelle Shit? You know what I mean.

0:35:53.120 --> 0:35:54.560
<v Speaker 1>So that's what I'm saying. But the numbers that we

0:35:54.640 --> 0:35:57.279
<v Speaker 1>think are that the people we know are doing No,

0:35:57.320 --> 0:36:00.560
<v Speaker 1>it's Mischelle Obama doing those numbers, not you know, not

0:36:00.600 --> 0:36:02.200
<v Speaker 1>the person that you would think, not the person you're like,

0:36:02.200 --> 0:36:04.480
<v Speaker 1>oh my gosh, it's not Tabitha. I mean, I love her, obviously,

0:36:04.480 --> 0:36:07.239
<v Speaker 1>it's it's not re Meet. It's not it's it's one

0:36:07.320 --> 0:36:09.360
<v Speaker 1>or two people that are doing that and then everyone

0:36:09.400 --> 0:36:11.719
<v Speaker 1>else it's kind of like somewhere in the middle, which

0:36:11.760 --> 0:36:15.719
<v Speaker 1>is fine and so reaching their people exactly. So it

0:36:15.840 --> 0:36:17.839
<v Speaker 1>was just, yeah, it was nice to have a little

0:36:17.880 --> 0:36:19.359
<v Speaker 1>you know, if you ever want to know. She was like, girl,

0:36:19.440 --> 0:36:20.799
<v Speaker 1>just text me, Like, girl, you can look up this.

0:36:23.200 --> 0:36:24.840
<v Speaker 1>It was really interesting to be like because you know,

0:36:25.000 --> 0:36:27.520
<v Speaker 1>you see people talk a lot, they talk big, big talk.

0:36:27.880 --> 0:36:29.880
<v Speaker 1>And she said, see I said, okay, girl, now we

0:36:29.880 --> 0:36:33.080
<v Speaker 1>start to get paidy let me get off this line.

0:36:33.640 --> 0:36:39.400
<v Speaker 2>Like Tiffy is calling again. Okay, search bar ready all right, sorry,

0:36:39.480 --> 0:36:43.399
<v Speaker 2>let's take it quick, yes, oh after, yes, good twin,

0:36:44.320 --> 0:36:46.160
<v Speaker 2>let's say break and come back. We haven't done brown

0:36:46.200 --> 0:36:48.800
<v Speaker 2>booster breaking a long time. Okay, I'm a booths. I

0:36:48.800 --> 0:36:49.719
<v Speaker 2>feel like that I was.

0:36:49.760 --> 0:36:52.600
<v Speaker 1>I was negative earlier, not.

0:36:52.680 --> 0:36:57.319
<v Speaker 2>Even that it happened to you. You're the victim, all right,

0:36:57.360 --> 0:37:01.440
<v Speaker 2>B right, B B right, B see youson being a fan.

0:37:05.360 --> 0:37:11.839
<v Speaker 1>And we're back and black at it, and I'm you're

0:37:11.840 --> 0:37:15.359
<v Speaker 1>gonna boost a break and now it's time there we go.

0:37:15.760 --> 0:37:18.600
<v Speaker 1>Boost up, break up, boost up, break up, boost up?

0:37:18.640 --> 0:37:24.319
<v Speaker 1>Break Are you gonna boost? Are you gonna break? What

0:37:24.440 --> 0:37:31.640
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna do? What you're going to Oh sidebar, I'm

0:37:31.640 --> 0:37:33.120
<v Speaker 1>getting more men recognizing me.

0:37:35.080 --> 0:37:38.080
<v Speaker 2>I didn't know where that sentence was gonna go. Get one.

0:37:40.760 --> 0:37:42.799
<v Speaker 1>Like I was in Jersey City walking and there was

0:37:42.840 --> 0:37:45.640
<v Speaker 1>this guy. He looked black, but he sounded like he

0:37:45.680 --> 0:37:48.400
<v Speaker 1>was speaking Arabic to his friend. And so it was

0:37:48.400 --> 0:37:49.799
<v Speaker 1>like three men, but they were sounded like they were

0:37:49.800 --> 0:37:52.080
<v Speaker 1>speaking Arabic like that, you know, like it's a really

0:37:52.080 --> 0:37:54.239
<v Speaker 1>beautiful language and distinct, and so they were talking to

0:37:54.280 --> 0:37:55.680
<v Speaker 1>each other, but they look black like they looked like,

0:37:55.719 --> 0:37:58.840
<v Speaker 1>like to get black. So I don't know. Anyway, he like,

0:37:58.880 --> 0:38:00.640
<v Speaker 1>I was with my two sisters. He looked at me

0:38:00.719 --> 0:38:02.560
<v Speaker 1>and he said at first he asked if there was

0:38:02.600 --> 0:38:05.239
<v Speaker 1>a bench. Jersey City is very walkable. He asked if

0:38:05.280 --> 0:38:07.239
<v Speaker 1>we were gonna sit. He said, y'all gonna cool out

0:38:07.239 --> 0:38:08.839
<v Speaker 1>on this bench and I was like, no, no, you can

0:38:08.920 --> 0:38:11.880
<v Speaker 1>have it. And he said, wait, are you budget, Lisa?

0:38:12.040 --> 0:38:16.040
<v Speaker 1>I said I am. He was like, sis, I love

0:38:16.120 --> 0:38:18.960
<v Speaker 1>you yo, and I just was like, thank you so much.

0:38:19.080 --> 0:38:21.640
<v Speaker 1>And that's a handful of men that's been happening more

0:38:21.640 --> 0:38:23.840
<v Speaker 1>and more because you know, usually a woman will be like,

0:38:23.840 --> 0:38:25.360
<v Speaker 1>oh my god, I love you and their boyfriend is like,

0:38:25.400 --> 0:38:29.160
<v Speaker 1>who's that lady. Yeah, So I don't know.

0:38:29.280 --> 0:38:31.520
<v Speaker 2>I love you know, I'm not surprised at all. I

0:38:31.560 --> 0:38:33.080
<v Speaker 2>think you have universal appeal.

0:38:33.320 --> 0:38:35.399
<v Speaker 1>I love that the men's is coming out. We love

0:38:35.440 --> 0:38:37.480
<v Speaker 1>that you guys are you know, getting on financial track.

0:38:37.560 --> 0:38:39.360
<v Speaker 1>So that was really fun. So if you listen to

0:38:39.360 --> 0:38:41.400
<v Speaker 1>the podcast, it was really you know, it was I

0:38:41.520 --> 0:38:43.200
<v Speaker 1>was dogging in ice cream, so I didn't want to

0:38:43.200 --> 0:38:44.960
<v Speaker 1>stop me. When I say dog I was inhaling it.

0:38:45.280 --> 0:38:49.600
<v Speaker 1>There's this place called Tompico tom something in Jersey City.

0:38:49.719 --> 0:38:52.319
<v Speaker 1>They have a pound cake ice cream girl.

0:38:52.480 --> 0:38:56.840
<v Speaker 2>Oh I love pound cake? What is that? Perfect?

0:38:57.320 --> 0:39:00.399
<v Speaker 1>It is? Why is nobody else doing this? It's so good?

0:39:00.440 --> 0:39:01.719
<v Speaker 1>So when I tell you, I was, I mean I

0:39:01.880 --> 0:39:06.319
<v Speaker 1>was deeply so he said. I was like, it's like.

0:39:06.320 --> 0:39:08.759
<v Speaker 2>The old school, is it? The old school ice cream

0:39:08.800 --> 0:39:11.279
<v Speaker 2>store on the corner? Like yeah, literally, I lived in

0:39:11.360 --> 0:39:12.200
<v Speaker 2>Jersey City.

0:39:12.120 --> 0:39:17.279
<v Speaker 1>Yes, so called Delicio Soul, So anyway, I haven't been there,

0:39:17.360 --> 0:39:18.560
<v Speaker 1>you know. So I was. I was making love to

0:39:18.560 --> 0:39:20.600
<v Speaker 1>the ice cream, so I couldn't focus. I was like,

0:39:20.080 --> 0:39:25.080
<v Speaker 1>I so, but I kept I kept the moving because.

0:39:24.920 --> 0:39:25.680
<v Speaker 2>She's so real.

0:39:25.760 --> 0:39:25.960
<v Speaker 1>Yo.

0:39:26.040 --> 0:39:28.640
<v Speaker 2>You see her. She had ice cream come out of

0:39:28.640 --> 0:39:31.000
<v Speaker 2>her mouth. She's so down with the people.

0:39:32.920 --> 0:39:35.040
<v Speaker 1>That's not my booze. My boos is real quick, is

0:39:35.080 --> 0:39:38.960
<v Speaker 1>am I? For the first time ever, I finally got

0:39:38.960 --> 0:39:41.640
<v Speaker 1>a contract with the City of Newark to teach financial

0:39:41.719 --> 0:39:46.080
<v Speaker 1>education to the babies. Not babies, but yes, I mean so,

0:39:46.440 --> 0:39:50.279
<v Speaker 1>I am. So. I wrote a financial literacy curriculum based

0:39:50.320 --> 0:39:54.560
<v Speaker 1>upon giging with mass and it's a it's a four

0:39:54.600 --> 0:39:59.239
<v Speaker 1>week class, it's daily. It's during the summer. I think

0:39:59.239 --> 0:40:02.200
<v Speaker 1>it starts July to August first, and it's from eight

0:40:02.200 --> 0:40:06.840
<v Speaker 1>thirty am to eleven thirty am, and you just have

0:40:06.920 --> 0:40:11.160
<v Speaker 1>to be a Newark High school student. It's totally free,

0:40:11.640 --> 0:40:12.560
<v Speaker 1>totally school.

0:40:12.640 --> 0:40:12.960
<v Speaker 2>Okay.

0:40:13.080 --> 0:40:15.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And so if you wanted to, like, there's my

0:40:15.280 --> 0:40:17.160
<v Speaker 1>flyers all over the place. But if you wanted to

0:40:17.160 --> 0:40:21.920
<v Speaker 1>sign up, go to Get Good with Money n PS

0:40:22.120 --> 0:40:25.480
<v Speaker 1>and as a Newark PS and public school, Getka with

0:40:25.560 --> 0:40:29.160
<v Speaker 1>Money nps dot com. Register. Like I said, totally free.

0:40:29.239 --> 0:40:32.520
<v Speaker 1>Class starts next week, so everybody's going to get a book.

0:40:32.880 --> 0:40:35.839
<v Speaker 1>There's five high schools where we actually teach it, so

0:40:35.880 --> 0:40:37.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to come because it's five high school so

0:40:37.640 --> 0:40:39.000
<v Speaker 1>I can't read all of it, so I'm going to

0:40:39.120 --> 0:40:41.320
<v Speaker 1>go in like and you know, and go. But we're hiring.

0:40:41.320 --> 0:40:42.680
<v Speaker 1>What I love too is that we're hiring New York

0:40:42.719 --> 0:40:47.360
<v Speaker 1>teachers to teach it. And then yes, we're so annoying.

0:40:47.680 --> 0:40:50.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm so excited because we get to well how.

0:40:50.239 --> 0:40:52.000
<v Speaker 2>I felt like when you announced your book deal, I'm like,

0:40:52.040 --> 0:40:56.239
<v Speaker 2>what did you do that? Just being back all the time,

0:40:56.320 --> 0:40:57.520
<v Speaker 2>it's just amazing.

0:40:57.560 --> 0:40:59.239
<v Speaker 1>We've been working so hard on it, and I'm so

0:40:59.239 --> 0:41:01.439
<v Speaker 1>excited because the kids get my book made whole because

0:41:01.480 --> 0:41:03.640
<v Speaker 1>I feel like the workbook is more appropriate for high

0:41:03.640 --> 0:41:07.319
<v Speaker 1>school students. We're also secretly working with a let me

0:41:07.360 --> 0:41:10.759
<v Speaker 1>keep it light, with an electronic company, if you will,

0:41:10.960 --> 0:41:14.160
<v Speaker 1>to try to get the kids electronics. I'll just say

0:41:14.160 --> 0:41:15.960
<v Speaker 1>that because we're still like working on it, trying to

0:41:15.960 --> 0:41:19.480
<v Speaker 1>get a bank account. Right, Yeah, so I'm what I am.

0:41:19.600 --> 0:41:21.680
<v Speaker 1>I bought tablets for each classroom too, and we're gonna

0:41:21.680 --> 0:41:23.200
<v Speaker 1>wraple them off at the end to the kids who

0:41:23.200 --> 0:41:25.640
<v Speaker 1>are there. But I'm trying to get each kid, quite honestly,

0:41:25.640 --> 0:41:28.319
<v Speaker 1>a computer. Okay, so we're talking with somebody that's like,

0:41:28.880 --> 0:41:31.560
<v Speaker 1>tell me more, and then even like a sneaker company

0:41:31.600 --> 0:41:33.600
<v Speaker 1>reached out to us by maybe getting them back to

0:41:33.600 --> 0:41:35.560
<v Speaker 1>school sneakers, you know, one of the ones that the

0:41:35.600 --> 0:41:38.759
<v Speaker 1>girls the kids be liking. And I have so many

0:41:38.760 --> 0:41:41.279
<v Speaker 1>guest speakers, Like what I really wanted was like dope

0:41:41.360 --> 0:41:43.759
<v Speaker 1>newer graduates like Cabra. You know that's why, bestie. But

0:41:43.800 --> 0:41:45.799
<v Speaker 1>you know Cabro was born and raised in Newark, has

0:41:45.840 --> 0:41:48.200
<v Speaker 1>a successful family business, so he's going to be like,

0:41:48.239 --> 0:41:49.879
<v Speaker 1>you know, like a guest speaker because I want kids

0:41:49.920 --> 0:41:52.359
<v Speaker 1>to see, Oh you from where I'm from. You want

0:41:52.400 --> 0:41:54.000
<v Speaker 1>to say high school? And I did you know? So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just really excited, like and I'm hoping that it

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<v Speaker 1>goes well so that way, I want to you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to do it in the fall because I

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<v Speaker 1>y'all know, for those of you who've been listening for

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<v Speaker 1>a while, that I worked really hard with the my

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<v Speaker 1>assembly woman at the time, she's now Senator Angela McKnight

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<v Speaker 1>to get the Budget Needs To law passed, which made

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<v Speaker 1>financial education mandatory for middle school students in New Jersey,

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<v Speaker 1>not just Newark, all of New Jersey. And because New

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<v Speaker 1>Jersey already has a law for high school students, and

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<v Speaker 1>so I've been wanting to, like, so I get this

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<v Speaker 1>law passed, but I'm not teaching anything in the city

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<v Speaker 1>where I live and where I was born, and so yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there's still some spots open. So if you got a kid,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a kid in Newark that they just have

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<v Speaker 1>to be in high school, it's totally free. There's five

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<v Speaker 1>different locations. I think it's like Weekway Central if you're

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<v Speaker 1>from York, you know, go to get good with Money.

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<v Speaker 1>And as a Newark PS and public s as in

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<v Speaker 1>school get gos money NPS dot com. We're gonna put

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<v Speaker 1>that in the show notes too. But yeah, I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>really proud of it. Like I get to like do

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<v Speaker 1>something for like these babies right here.

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<v Speaker 2>You know that is so incredible. I'm so proud of you.

0:43:01.239 --> 0:43:01.600
<v Speaker 1>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's just the you know, you've been a teacher

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<v Speaker 2>for so many years you still do teach, but like

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<v Speaker 2>this is so it just feels very like full circle.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes it does. I know they're not like toddlers, but

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<v Speaker 2>you know these are little budding young adults are going

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<v Speaker 2>into college. Oh my gun, I know that's I'm just like,

0:43:22.040 --> 0:43:23.319
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, I don't know what to say. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>speechless a little bit. But that's just really incredible. So great. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>let me see. My boost is going to be about

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<v Speaker 2>my really good friend. Her name is Jessica. I should

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<v Speaker 2>say the honorable Jessica because she is a whole ass

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<v Speaker 2>federal and and somehow this little ragamuffin is her friend.

0:43:47.320 --> 0:43:51.120
<v Speaker 2>And I get to go. I'm going today to an investige,

0:43:52.040 --> 0:43:55.920
<v Speaker 2>which is basically like a real fancy event we had.

0:43:55.960 --> 0:43:58.920
<v Speaker 2>She had a brunch yesterday because so many of her

0:43:58.920 --> 0:44:00.960
<v Speaker 2>family and friends from across country. When I tell you

0:44:00.960 --> 0:44:03.600
<v Speaker 2>this woman her family and friends, she has friends from

0:44:03.600 --> 0:44:08.040
<v Speaker 2>elementary school, every stage of life, I'm just like, how

0:44:08.080 --> 0:44:10.799
<v Speaker 2>am I in this orbit? She's so smart. I mean,

0:44:10.800 --> 0:44:14.400
<v Speaker 2>she's just so special. She was appointed by President Biden

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<v Speaker 2>for this judge ship a couple of years ago. It

0:44:17.160 --> 0:44:20.320
<v Speaker 2>took a long ass time to actually get her. Yeah,

0:44:20.320 --> 0:44:23.960
<v Speaker 2>she had to go through all these confirmation hearings and

0:44:24.000 --> 0:44:25.920
<v Speaker 2>it took a really long time. And I remember just

0:44:25.960 --> 0:44:28.239
<v Speaker 2>meeting her and she was going through it, and she

0:44:28.440 --> 0:44:31.960
<v Speaker 2>was so calm about the whole thing and so level.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't know how she coped, because to have

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<v Speaker 2>people who don't know anything about you trying to keep

0:44:37.040 --> 0:44:39.640
<v Speaker 2>your you know, your destiny from them if you've worked

0:44:39.640 --> 0:44:41.600
<v Speaker 2>so hard for But she got it. She got in.

0:44:42.160 --> 0:44:45.520
<v Speaker 2>She's been there for a year, and I've never been

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<v Speaker 2>to an event like this, and I'm just trying not

0:44:48.239 --> 0:44:50.839
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, I'm gonna I'm wearing a nice dress. I'm

0:44:50.840 --> 0:44:55.280
<v Speaker 2>going to try to like represent her well not embarrassed myself.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, in the wake of Katanji Brown Jackson's

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<v Speaker 2>come from to the Supreme Court, it's just nice to

0:45:02.760 --> 0:45:07.359
<v Speaker 2>see that the the intention of like appointing more women

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<v Speaker 2>of color to these judge ships, judge ships. I said

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<v Speaker 2>that yesterday to an attorney one of her many illustrious friends,

0:45:13.600 --> 0:45:15.279
<v Speaker 2>and I was like, does that sound stupid? I don't

0:45:15.280 --> 0:45:20.920
<v Speaker 2>know what I'm talking about judges, judge jobs. It's just

0:45:20.920 --> 0:45:23.600
<v Speaker 2>great because I think Jessica is definitely an indication that

0:45:24.840 --> 0:45:27.480
<v Speaker 2>you know, they're they're moving a little bit more in

0:45:27.480 --> 0:45:32.520
<v Speaker 2>the right direction. But I'm excited to celebrate her. And yeah,

0:45:32.680 --> 0:45:37.680
<v Speaker 2>that's that's the boost. Is she is she? No, she's

0:45:38.320 --> 0:45:42.239
<v Speaker 2>forty something, wow, yeah, but still young girl. Yeah. I

0:45:42.280 --> 0:45:43.960
<v Speaker 2>was talking to when she used to work for the

0:45:44.000 --> 0:45:47.279
<v Speaker 2>Attorney General Latish. Oh sorry, I almost said Tish, like

0:45:47.320 --> 0:45:50.120
<v Speaker 2>I know her personally, I don't Jessica calls her Tish,

0:45:50.160 --> 0:45:56.600
<v Speaker 2>so Latitia James anyway, and uh, one of her former

0:45:56.640 --> 0:45:59.200
<v Speaker 2>colleagues who's there works for like a very fancy law firm,

0:46:00.320 --> 0:46:02.479
<v Speaker 2>was telling me about how Jessica is probably the first

0:46:02.520 --> 0:46:04.560
<v Speaker 2>judge to have an after party because a lot of

0:46:04.600 --> 0:46:08.520
<v Speaker 2>them are just so old and crustal. But we don't

0:46:08.560 --> 0:46:13.640
<v Speaker 2>have a time, got the babysitter coming. Yeah, So I'm

0:46:13.719 --> 0:46:16.480
<v Speaker 2>just yeah, I'm really really excited. And I just am like,

0:46:16.680 --> 0:46:19.080
<v Speaker 2>shout out to me for rolling my window down in

0:46:19.120 --> 0:46:22.439
<v Speaker 2>the daycare parking lot and being like black lady, Hi,

0:46:23.360 --> 0:46:24.200
<v Speaker 2>let's be friends.

0:46:25.680 --> 0:46:26.279
<v Speaker 1>I love that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, that's not awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, we congratulate you and salute you, misjudge Jessica.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, the honorable honorable honorable Jessica. Do you get a judge?

0:46:38.080 --> 0:46:39.480
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what to get her? Tip? Do you

0:46:39.480 --> 0:46:40.160
<v Speaker 2>have any ideas?

0:46:40.440 --> 0:46:41.799
<v Speaker 1>I gavel? I don't know.

0:46:44.080 --> 0:46:45.600
<v Speaker 2>I was so dorky. I was like, can you show

0:46:45.600 --> 0:46:47.640
<v Speaker 2>me your robes? And she showed me that the website.

0:46:47.360 --> 0:46:48.759
<v Speaker 1>Where I know that is.

0:46:49.520 --> 0:46:51.759
<v Speaker 2>I was like, are you gonna doily? Like RBG? Are

0:46:51.760 --> 0:46:54.839
<v Speaker 2>we doing a doily? She's like, Mandy, I mean I

0:46:54.880 --> 0:46:57.319
<v Speaker 2>texted her about I shouldn't be talking about this. I

0:46:57.360 --> 0:46:59.400
<v Speaker 2>text her things and I'm like, you probably shouldn't answer that. Nevermind,

0:46:59.480 --> 0:47:01.160
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what just it. Don't say anything. Let's

0:47:01.160 --> 0:47:05.160
<v Speaker 2>talk about nothing something else, like shit. I don't know

0:47:05.160 --> 0:47:06.960
<v Speaker 2>how to be a judge's friend, but I do know

0:47:06.960 --> 0:47:08.440
<v Speaker 2>how to be a friend.

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<v Speaker 1>Mandy, you are a let's talk about Bridgerton? Are gonna

0:47:15.120 --> 0:47:15.800
<v Speaker 1>talk about Richison?

0:47:18.080 --> 0:47:20.920
<v Speaker 2>She is a Fridgie fan, which is I'm like, yes,

0:47:21.280 --> 0:47:23.440
<v Speaker 2>let me talk about that. I don't know how people

0:47:23.440 --> 0:47:27.200
<v Speaker 2>watch Bridgerton in groups, because I can't. It's a personal experience.

0:47:27.200 --> 0:47:28.719
<v Speaker 1>It is because I mean, I'm not gonna lie. I

0:47:28.760 --> 0:47:30.319
<v Speaker 1>have to rewind. Sometimes I'm like I didn't see that

0:47:30.320 --> 0:47:32.400
<v Speaker 1>again and again and against girl.

0:47:32.760 --> 0:47:34.879
<v Speaker 2>You don't even have you even finished episode four?

0:47:35.239 --> 0:47:39.319
<v Speaker 1>No, I just you know my face excited for you

0:47:39.400 --> 0:47:42.040
<v Speaker 1>when she like ate the cupcake and she like looked

0:47:42.040 --> 0:47:44.360
<v Speaker 1>at her and he was like, I rewinded that, so

0:47:44.600 --> 0:47:45.120
<v Speaker 1>it us.

0:47:45.360 --> 0:47:48.319
<v Speaker 2>I was like, that's just wait a second, you rewhelmed

0:47:48.360 --> 0:47:49.160
<v Speaker 2>that scene.

0:47:49.440 --> 0:47:53.200
<v Speaker 1>Oh I love I love the subtle scene.

0:47:53.239 --> 0:47:54.919
<v Speaker 2>So I f you're out how it's spoiled for you.

0:47:55.400 --> 0:47:57.200
<v Speaker 1>Not that she brings the top tons out, but I

0:47:57.360 --> 0:47:58.760
<v Speaker 1>just yeah.

0:47:58.600 --> 0:48:01.719
<v Speaker 2>But no, but before oh girl, the season episode four,

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<v Speaker 2>Get you a drink, Get you a nice cup of

0:48:04.280 --> 0:48:07.520
<v Speaker 2>tea and a nice cozy blanket, Get that weighted blanket,

0:48:07.600 --> 0:48:10.279
<v Speaker 2>you know, like cozy up and get ready to hit

0:48:10.320 --> 0:48:11.160
<v Speaker 2>that rewind button.

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry, ladies whose kids are watching their cart Okay, Oh

0:48:20.719 --> 0:48:21.880
<v Speaker 1>it's so good.

0:48:22.160 --> 0:48:24.399
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna be on No No real quick. I want

0:48:24.400 --> 0:48:26.960
<v Speaker 2>to say I'm gonna be onto Black Girls one rose

0:48:27.080 --> 0:48:31.359
<v Speaker 2>to talk about Bridgerton tomorrow, Tiff, if you're free at

0:48:31.360 --> 0:48:33.480
<v Speaker 2>three pm, I feel like you should pull up because

0:48:33.520 --> 0:48:35.440
<v Speaker 2>they are also going to come on Brown Ambition. But

0:48:35.480 --> 0:48:38.239
<v Speaker 2>I literally invited myself on their show, and I was like, yeah,

0:48:38.280 --> 0:48:44.000
<v Speaker 2>Tiffy doesn't care. You should come if I have time. Yeah,

0:48:44.040 --> 0:48:45.279
<v Speaker 2>we'll see, we'll see, all right.

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