Speaker 1: Hey, hey, Hey, we're back. We're black, We're brown. Ambition, ambition,
Speaker 1: am buddy, Mandy. I'm having a hell out of my work.
Speaker 2: It's only Monday, so it's literally like four hours into
Speaker 2: the work week.
Speaker 1: This is this is gonna be the complain of episode,
Speaker 1: so I might as well start on June tenth week.
Speaker 2: How did you?
Speaker 1: How are you?
Speaker 2: Girl? Well, I have to remember this time to say
Speaker 2: Happy Juneteenth because it's going to be Wednesday when we
Speaker 2: air this show. It's a federal holiday, and I am
Speaker 2: so happy. The ancestors are pleased. However, the children are
Speaker 2: going to be home, so it's my my precious, my
Speaker 2: precious workday is fucked. But husband is also going to
Speaker 2: be home, so I'm just like m be super bad.
Speaker 2: But yes, Happy Juneteenth and to all who celebrate. I
Speaker 2: feel like this coming weekend, I live in Greenberg, which
Speaker 2: is don't put that in the show. People already kind
Speaker 2: of know. I live in a town in yeah, north
Speaker 2: of a little bit north of Manhattan and the Burbs
Speaker 2: that is like historically black and has a lot of
Speaker 2: like cultural significance, and they are doing a Juneteenth celebration
Speaker 2: on this coming weekends. I might do that well, you know.
Speaker 1: I live in blackly black black black NewYork, so you do.
Speaker 1: So I'm sure there's going to be a just.
Speaker 2: Walk out the door and say hello. I know, like
Speaker 2: it shouldn't. We don't need to perform. That's why I
Speaker 2: feel like a Juneteenth does not have to be about performative,
Speaker 2: like you know whatever. But for me, it's not like
Speaker 2: a Father's Day, like okay, my Father's Day, Mother's Day
Speaker 2: kind of like I enjoy them to a certain extent,
Speaker 2: but also I'm just like, why are we putting this
Speaker 2: pressure on ourselves around this like random Sunday, you know,
Speaker 2: as a Hallmark card industry or whatever invented it and
Speaker 2: all that. But Juneteenth, I just like, like, let's just
Speaker 2: be kind and celebrate each other. I love that. We
Speaker 2: need it to not be in February for fucking once,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. So I'm happy we got
Speaker 2: like a little June. If the Pride, if the LGBTQA
Speaker 2: plus community will allow us to steal one day of
Speaker 2: Pride month, happy pride as well to everybody who celebrates.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I just you know, I just came out
Speaker 2: of group therapy, so I'm.
Speaker 1: Like, how was that is that your first session.
Speaker 2: Now I've been doing group therapy the hour before the podcast.
Speaker 2: It's kind of not the most idea. It's fine, but
Speaker 2: I'm just like in the group therapy, like turning my
Speaker 2: camera off so I can put some concealer on, get
Speaker 2: ready for the show. It's been Yeah, I'm really glad
Speaker 2: that I have it. I honestly think individual therapy and
Speaker 2: group therapy at the same time. I am like, this
Speaker 2: is a good recipe for me per se.
Speaker 1: I love that.
Speaker 2: And for randomly Amy Poehler, who I just her to
Speaker 2: do an interview and she said that she you know
Speaker 2: Amy Poehler from Parks and Rack, and yeah, She's like,
Speaker 2: I'm an individual and group therapy and I was like,
Speaker 2: let me do uh And I'm in two groups, so
Speaker 2: I got Monday and Thursday. Anyway. Yeah, it's been actually
Speaker 2: really a difficult few days. But I feel a lot
Speaker 2: better than I did before group therapy. I got a
Speaker 2: little weep beatering it, but I don't know, I feel
Speaker 2: what is it about hearing a little bit of like
Speaker 2: a drama, corporate drama and seeing your face It just
Speaker 2: brought me back a little bit. Thank God for this show.
Speaker 1: Is this a dress? Our shirt.
Speaker 2: This is a dress. This dress is like the best
Speaker 2: investment I've ever got, like a you want Bridgerton, but
Speaker 2: this is like giving thank you. I'm like, it's giving,
Speaker 2: it's giving. Regency Bridgerton Season three. I don't I know
Speaker 2: you don't watch it, but for the girls?
Speaker 1: Are you crazy? I watched all I'm currently it. Yes, Tiffany,
Speaker 1: watch all of all the Bridgeton's. Tell me that I
Speaker 1: didn't get into Queen Charlotte, but now I loved all
Speaker 1: the seasons.
Speaker 2: Oh did I not know that? What I could have
Speaker 2: been texting you? Oh my god, I'm so excited.
Speaker 1: I was. I said I did not want the whole
Speaker 1: split up. I said no, no, I waited until all
Speaker 1: the episodes dropped, and now I'm on the episode three.
Speaker 1: I said, yeah, you won't get me, Shanda, I will
Speaker 1: not be Yes.
Speaker 2: Well, then I would love to hear your take. So
Speaker 2: you're not even you haven't done the back half? Okay, Tiffany,
Speaker 2: Oh my god, you think you know someone? You think
Speaker 2: a girl like that's my girl. I was like, I'm
Speaker 2: not going to text her because she's like it doesn't
Speaker 2: even watch TV.
Speaker 1: I made I did time for Bridgeton. I actually really
Speaker 1: enjoy it. It's like a nice little.
Speaker 2: It's so good. Yeah, people are giving what we can
Speaker 2: talk about. The people are giving a lot of shit
Speaker 2: to the black couple, the Mandraches. Do you know Alice
Speaker 2: and Will who owned the bar, the club and the.
Speaker 1: Baron.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's really hard to just I miss the
Speaker 2: days when I could escape into a sh show and
Speaker 2: just think about the show. Now you have, I know
Speaker 2: so much about how shows get made, the screenwriters, the showrunners.
Speaker 2: You know about Shonda, she's a celebrity, the casting choices,
Speaker 2: the casting dramas, who's put in different roles? And why
Speaker 2: do they bring some characters forward? And like why is
Speaker 2: friend us good not around for the first two seasons
Speaker 2: and now they were, like all the backworkings start to
Speaker 2: like fog up your mind, and like I know that
Speaker 2: they listen. There was not a featured prominent black couple
Speaker 2: in the show that aims to be so inclusive. There's
Speaker 2: a lot of like, listen, we know Shonda loves the swirl,
Speaker 2: and as a product of swirling, I too, I too
Speaker 2: enjoy it. Okay, However, I understand the importance of having
Speaker 2: like a real, non toxic, healthy black couple and I
Speaker 2: see the showrunners trying to lift them up, but the
Speaker 2: Internet's trying to tear them down about fast forward and
Speaker 2: through them.
Speaker 1: No, I don't. There's just people are just so aggy,
Speaker 1: so I don't you know, No, I look so cute.
Speaker 1: Yeah they are. And I love the fact that she's
Speaker 1: out here like, okay jewels and I love right she.
Speaker 2: Was like, oh my lady's clothes suck, but the jewelry
Speaker 2: can stay.
Speaker 1: I love that for them. State farm agents are small
Speaker 1: business owners too, so they know how to help you
Speaker 1: choose personalized policies that figure needs, like a good neighbor.
Speaker 1: State farm is there? Talk to your local agent today?
Speaker 1: Can I complain now? Okay? Yes, So I mean it's
Speaker 1: nothing major me. I mean, I mean the in the
Speaker 1: grand scheme of things. So if you notice the background
Speaker 1: looks empty, right, yeah, you would think. So I was
Speaker 1: supposed to move last week, which was a big deal. Yes,
Speaker 1: moving out of announce it right here, Yes that Joel
Speaker 1: and I have into my condo. Girl, I'm still here.
Speaker 2: Okay, but there's no stuff behind you.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So but if I look at them right there
Speaker 1: is So I hire this company called Piece of Cake Moving.
Speaker 1: It was not a piece of cake. It was a
Speaker 1: piece of rock, a piece of coal, a piece of coal,
Speaker 1: a piece of Yes. So I will say this that
Speaker 1: the two guys were nice, two Hispanic guys, young. They
Speaker 1: were really nice, but it was very clear that they
Speaker 1: were like not equipped a few things.
Speaker 2: One, you know, you have only two for that big
Speaker 2: old house. Okay, everything, I'm sure scortage?
Speaker 1: How much everything is? Two people? Two people? And they
Speaker 1: he said, oh my goodness, he said, thank goodness, I
Speaker 1: brought extra box. I had only brought ten ten boxes
Speaker 1: to move. Who were packing you up? Yes, they were
Speaker 1: packing me up? And so he had only twenty five boxes.
Speaker 1: I had to go to home Deepot myself.
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, they better go to home depot.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, no I went because he was like, this
Speaker 1: is basically like I guess based upon whatever you tell
Speaker 1: piece of Cake, they tell them here's how many boxes.
Speaker 1: Because he was telling me basically that you know, I
Speaker 1: guess their contractors and like piece of Cake charges them
Speaker 1: for the boxes, you know, like you know that way
Speaker 1: they know, I guess you bring back what you don't use,
Speaker 1: so they know how many boxes you actually like moved,
Speaker 1: you know. Anyway, and so it was just and they
Speaker 1: were like, I said, really nice, Thak, I here nine am.
Speaker 1: I can only move into my condo between nine am
Speaker 1: to five pm because they want you to basically keep
Speaker 1: the elevator free, you know. And so I was like okay.
Speaker 1: So by four I was like, yo, we're not done,
Speaker 1: and I said, we have to go. And I only
Speaker 1: live around the corner. So I was like, we have
Speaker 1: to go because I have to at least start moving
Speaker 1: in by like for something, or they're not going to
Speaker 1: let me. And now we have this truck you know,
Speaker 1: that's piled to the you know high with all the stuff.
Speaker 1: So you know, we we we started to move in
Speaker 1: and some dude on the on the air. I wish
Speaker 1: I would have seen him on the So we have
Speaker 1: two elevators. We have a service elevator, which is an
Speaker 1: obvious service elevator because it's the old school with the gate,
Speaker 1: and then we have a regular elevator. So they're on
Speaker 1: the service elevator moving me in and he said. One
Speaker 1: of the guys was like, you know, are we allowed
Speaker 1: to use this elevator. I was like yeah, he said,
Speaker 1: because this guy got on and he said, you're using
Speaker 1: the elevator. You're not supposed to be using this elevator, YadA, YadA, YadA.
Speaker 1: And he was like, but this is the service elevator.
Speaker 1: I say yes, and he's wrong. It's the there's a
Speaker 1: front elevator that's clearly like a regular elevator. And I
Speaker 1: was like, don't even worry about him. And then like,
Speaker 1: you're supposed to be done by five. Of course I
Speaker 1: wasn't done until like five forty five. And my one
Speaker 1: of my friends who's in the building, she's like, girl,
Speaker 1: are you about to get in trouble because last time
Speaker 1: I wasn't done until nine pm. And I got a
Speaker 1: little nasty email for management. I was like, girl, anybody
Speaker 1: will tell girl four fifty girl that man on the
Speaker 1: elevator could not wait to tell my black dad. First
Speaker 1: of all, I was gonna be petty, but I said, tivity.
Speaker 1: First of all, you is kind of wrong because you
Speaker 1: were you know, not meaning like I was. You know,
Speaker 1: I was there longer than I anticipated.
Speaker 2: So it's just that you can't be moving stuff. You
Speaker 2: can be in your building. You own the play.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah exactly. And so they wrote me. So management
Speaker 1: wrote me at five poin fifty three meanwhile, I have
Speaker 1: until five, five fifty three or four, I mean four
Speaker 1: fifty three. So I looked at the email. So I
Speaker 1: didn't see obviously until much later. But the email said, hey, Tiffany,
Speaker 1: you know got to complain that you're using that you
Speaker 1: that you held up both elevators, which is not true
Speaker 1: because the all the elevator is too small even to
Speaker 1: move into, so that's not true. And then too that
Speaker 1: you that you were moved, that you were moving in
Speaker 1: past time. I thought you said you were going to
Speaker 1: come this morning, because that's what they had told me,
Speaker 1: that they'd be done by the morning. I said, hey,
Speaker 1: you know, management, like they did tell me they were
Speaker 1: gonna be done by the morning. They weren't. Obviously, I
Speaker 1: was cognizant of the time, I said, let me not
Speaker 1: cop to nothing in this email. I was cognizant of
Speaker 1: the time, you know. And it took certainly took a
Speaker 1: little longer than I thought. I said, I didn't use
Speaker 1: both elevators. And also I wanted to say, girl, it
Speaker 1: is four fifty three. I can't possibly be pastime. It
Speaker 1: ain't passed the time when you said this email. But
Speaker 1: I said, I wasn't sure if I was going down
Speaker 1: that hill. Since I was late, I said, let me.
Speaker 2: Leave it like Tiffany, we're leaving. We're leaving a little
Speaker 2: bit early today. But now we got to respond to
Speaker 2: this evening.
Speaker 1: That's exactly what it was. It was giving girl, I'm
Speaker 1: out at five, so I'm not for a second. But
Speaker 1: so I wrote her back and wrote her that she
Speaker 1: ain't right back yet, so I'm sure she Here's the thing,
Speaker 1: I get it that ain't don't care, she don't live here.
Speaker 1: She's just responding, you know, whenever somebody complains. And so
Speaker 1: I was telling my friend in the building and she
Speaker 1: was like, girl, you gotta get these people streaked. That's
Speaker 1: what I tell to the neighbors are the movers. The neighbors.
Speaker 1: She said, you gotta get these because every once in
Speaker 1: a while, somebody here thinks they can play with you,
Speaker 1: so you gotta let them know you're not the one
Speaker 1: or the two.
Speaker 2: I was like, okay, okay, listen. Nothing makes you want
Speaker 2: to be a recluse more than neighbors. Sometimes it's just.
Speaker 1: I said, like you're in eighth grade.
Speaker 2: We have the most toxic, petty neighbor who's retired and
Speaker 2: she literally is a window twitcher. I leave my house,
Speaker 2: I go talk to my friend across the street, and
Speaker 2: you see the curtains twitch, and I'm just like, there
Speaker 2: she is again. She will wait for the smallest thing.
Speaker 2: She has a bone to pick with my neighbor across
Speaker 2: the street because she's a white woman. And this is
Speaker 2: an older black woman, like the elder of the town,
Speaker 2: who really is suspicious of the new blood, including myself,
Speaker 2: including me, because I'm no better even though I'm black,
Speaker 2: I'm still young. I got like a you know, racially
Speaker 2: ambiguous children, like where am I from? I'm not from
Speaker 2: this anyway. And she has complained on them for the
Speaker 2: grasses too high. Meanwhile, we don't have an h OA.
Speaker 2: There's no rules. There are town ordinances, but she makes
Speaker 2: sure she enforces them just because she's a concerned citizen,
Speaker 2: you know. So the grass is too high. She made
Speaker 2: her cut down a baby tree because the baby tree
Speaker 2: was blocking the a baby pine tree. It was so
Speaker 2: cute anyway, because it was blocking the corner that she
Speaker 2: does not even drive down anyway. Neighbors man, Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 2: I here's the thing.
Speaker 1: For the most part, in the building, everybody's been I
Speaker 1: know exactly who it was. I said, I know it's you, Tom,
Speaker 1: that's not his name, but you know, but I knew
Speaker 1: exactly who it was because they were like, is it
Speaker 1: okay because the man's I said, what man? They're like
Speaker 1: these white man. I was like, So I was just like, yes, anyway,
Speaker 1: if you're listening to which I know you're not, I
Speaker 1: could use that elevator.
Speaker 2: Does Tom know that he lives in Newark?
Speaker 1: I mean so honestly, like I said, for the most part,
Speaker 1: I mean, the place, it looks absolutely stunning and the
Speaker 1: buildings really, I.
Speaker 2: Know, the pictures you sent, Oh my goodness, you haven't
Speaker 2: even seen like I mean, it's just like, you know,
Speaker 2: the neighbor's actually really nice.
Speaker 1: So you know, that's like my only one little grip.
Speaker 1: I mean, I was more so there was not a
Speaker 1: piece of cake, because honestly, they didn't I'm still here.
Speaker 1: We had such short time. They couldn't move my bed,
Speaker 1: they couldn't move Alyssa's bed, they couldn't move my chair,
Speaker 1: like like the half the house. And it's just so
Speaker 1: now I'm like, I'm wearing a gym shirt because this
Speaker 1: is all like, you know, this is the only the
Speaker 1: clothes I have here. So I'm like kind of like
Speaker 1: in limbo, so I do have to ask for our audience.
Speaker 1: I really need a one of those people called professional
Speaker 1: home organizers, someone that could come in and like put
Speaker 1: away my clothes. So I do have the bussing is
Speaker 1: a woman who owned my place before put in these
Speaker 1: systems called Alpha e L like alpha systems. Yes, so
Speaker 1: every closet has those, including my master closset. So but
Speaker 1: I need someone to come in. It's not so much
Speaker 1: to hang up my clothes. I know do that obviously,
Speaker 1: but I want like someone to like, you know, like
Speaker 1: to because she had her own system. She had like
Speaker 1: you know, so I want someone to come in and
Speaker 1: be like, Okay, we can use these shoes, but we
Speaker 1: need like these polls or whatever, you know, like basically
Speaker 1: to reorganize a classic Oh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, that's a good use of money.
Speaker 1: I know. And so like I'm excited. So if you know,
Speaker 1: like a home organizer, that's just because here's the thing.
Speaker 1: I don't want to I mean, I know I can
Speaker 1: do it, but I know that it's going to be raggedy.
Speaker 1: And then when I don't have a system a place,
Speaker 1: that's when I get messy. You know, I'm like a preschooler.
Speaker 1: You have to label every area of the classroom and
Speaker 1: I'll put the blocks away, but you just got to
Speaker 1: tell me where's the block area? And so yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: honestly I'm looking for someone. I started to call around,
Speaker 1: but you know I'm in New Jersey. So anybody in
Speaker 1: that area and just slide into my DMS on the budgetista,
Speaker 1: you know, just yeah, message me, yeah, just because honestly,
Speaker 1: I'm really.
Speaker 2: Let them really well, because that is such one of
Speaker 2: the jobs where you could really be shitty at it
Speaker 2: and like it can be like a side hustle. I
Speaker 2: just feel like I'm like, get those home edit girls. Yes,
Speaker 2: once you're on GMA all the time.
Speaker 1: I really think that I would really like is someone
Speaker 1: who has a company, not just a one off like
Speaker 1: this is not a task rabbit. I would love for
Speaker 1: someone who's like, oh, this is my company. I have
Speaker 1: two or three women that work with me. That's really
Speaker 1: the vibe I'm going for. So there's one woman like
Speaker 1: I reached out to and I was like, girl, at
Speaker 1: these prices, I could buy a new condo, are you guys.
Speaker 2: No, it's not going to be cheap. I imagine, like
Speaker 2: what's the budget, Like, what do you think you're gonna have?
Speaker 1: I don't even know. But she told me between I
Speaker 1: think she's one fugeen an hour, and I'm like, I
Speaker 1: don't know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like a few thousand dollars.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I mean the thing is it and that's
Speaker 1: just she's like for phase two and here's the thing.
Speaker 1: I expected to pay a few thousand, but the way
Speaker 1: she's breaking it down, I'm like, I'm not paying ten
Speaker 1: thousand dollars to close away because the way, you know,
Speaker 1: like I just not you know, Like so I don't
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know. My budget is under five
Speaker 1: I guess, but the way the way she's telling me,
Speaker 1: it's going to take so long, I'm like, girl, this
Speaker 1: is gonna be like I said, I'm not paying someone
Speaker 1: ten thousand hous clothes away. I will just live in
Speaker 1: a mess.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like a flat rate.
Speaker 1: Don't let me to house, give me a flat rate.
Speaker 1: I don't mind. If she would have told me here's
Speaker 1: five boom boom, I would have paid it. But like
Speaker 1: this hourly and it's probably gonna take this and that's
Speaker 1: just phase one and that that girl. Yeah, yeah, so
Speaker 1: I'm gonna see if I can, because I really actually
Speaker 1: did like her, and because she's a small business woman,
Speaker 1: own business, and I am I'm gonna say, can you
Speaker 1: give me a this morning? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Exactly, so you know an interior designer in Jersey, not
Speaker 2: your girl, but another one, and I'll ask if she
Speaker 2: knows any.
Speaker 1: Yes, please, but yeah, just that's it. Piece of cake was.
Speaker 2: Yeah. We did get a comment from a mom who's like,
Speaker 2: this episode was marked safe for children or whatever the
Speaker 2: rating is, but it was it should have been marked
Speaker 2: E And I was like, I don't know, you know
Speaker 2: your kids will be fine.
Speaker 1: Right have these babies don't even know what we're talking about.
Speaker 2: The way that I try to sneak in a little
Speaker 2: like I'll see song in the car, Like I tried
Speaker 2: to play a little cowboy card the other day. River
Speaker 2: Dance came on and I was like, this beat is great.
Speaker 2: First of all, Remy, oh my god, Remy loves music.
Speaker 2: I'm like, is he gonna be a dancer? Is he
Speaker 2: gonna be an artist or some kind? Is he gonna
Speaker 2: be in Broadway? Am I gonna finally get to be
Speaker 2: a Broadway stage mom? But he loves a beat, like oh,
Speaker 2: his little body just can't he can't help. But he's
Speaker 2: got a claps. He starts to try to sing. Oh
Speaker 2: my god, I'm like, is this what Beyonce did when
Speaker 2: she was a baby?
Speaker 1: Am?
Speaker 2: I like? Is it the next prints? Anyway? But yeah,
Speaker 2: I played river dance and it's like, pounce on that shit.
Speaker 2: Dann pounds no hands and is it pounds or bounce?
Speaker 2: I don't know, but yeah, and I but Rio, Oh
Speaker 2: my god, he is. He's becoming. He like gets so
Speaker 2: quiet when music is on or grown ups are talking.
Speaker 2: The little turkey is listening. Yes, he is listening to everything. Now,
Speaker 2: I'm like, are you the c I A like, are
Speaker 2: you like shush? I can't talk an and you know,
Speaker 2: I don't want him to learn Spanish because that's become
Speaker 2: our secret language. But how are we gonna talk? Should
Speaker 2: have pout the neighbors?
Speaker 1: I don't know what does Measey told me that she
Speaker 1: saw you at the event, and so what was that event?
Speaker 1: She said, okay, sidebars. She was like this how she
Speaker 1: described She's like Mandy had the most adorable child. I
Speaker 1: head full of curls with her. I was like, that's
Speaker 1: all a little rio.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So oh man, and your sister saw me like
Speaker 2: raggedy as hell. So I Reo graduated kindergarten or pre
Speaker 2: k on Friday and we had his graduation and they
Speaker 2: were like so generous to the parents. They were like,
Speaker 2: here you go, we're releasing your child early. You may
Speaker 2: take them home.
Speaker 1: Thanks.
Speaker 2: My publisher Legacy Lit, who I'm writing my book with.
Speaker 2: It was founded by Krishawn Trautman. She needs all the
Speaker 2: flowers because these publishing houses are massive, right, and they
Speaker 2: all have these imprints, and each imprint is run by
Speaker 2: a publisher who's basically a person who's in charge of
Speaker 2: like which books are we going to bid on? How
Speaker 2: much money are we going to you know, which authors
Speaker 2: are we going to go after? And Legacy Lit was
Speaker 2: founded in twenty twenty. We all know that this was
Speaker 2: the year of like, let's right the wrongs in corporate
Speaker 2: America and put all these diversity initiatives. So I think
Speaker 2: a lot of folks probably thought, we're, you know, are
Speaker 2: looking to the publishing industry as well as every other
Speaker 2: industry to be like it's been four years, how committed
Speaker 2: are you to the cause? Are you going to pull back?
Speaker 2: But if anything, Legacy Lit because of Krishan's leadership and
Speaker 2: her vision has just become, you know, enormously successful. She's
Speaker 2: had a New York Times bestseller, Like, she's publishing all
Speaker 2: these incredible books, including Mine to Come. And she partnered
Speaker 2: with this woman owned bookstore in Brooklyn called green Light,
Speaker 2: which is such an exquisite, beautiful store. And she hosted
Speaker 2: like a panel for Juneteenth, like a Juneteenth celebration, and
Speaker 2: it was catered by Al Roker's daughter, Courtney, because she's
Speaker 2: also a Legacy Lit author. And they were a few
Speaker 2: Legacy Lit authors who have recent books out and they
Speaker 2: each read an excerpt from their books. And I think Tracy,
Speaker 2: Tracy and Krishan know each other.
Speaker 1: Yes, because I forget they met via like another publicist
Speaker 1: introduced them or whatever, and then you know, Coshan trying
Speaker 1: to sign me, and then they just became cool. Now
Speaker 1: they're like, you know, they're like they're they're colleague friends,
Speaker 1: so they support each other like they have actually working meetings.
Speaker 1: She loves Croissan.
Speaker 2: They seem like, yeah, they seem like a vibe. And
Speaker 2: your sister, I forgot. I'm like, she's so tall and
Speaker 2: statue esque and stunning, and I brought But the reason
Speaker 2: I brought up Rio is because I brought him with me.
Speaker 2: That was like a really convoluted way of telling that story.
Speaker 2: I brought him with me on the train. I was like,
Speaker 2: we're going to take the train to the city. You
Speaker 2: want to come. He was so excited until we were like,
Speaker 2: we did the Metro North. That was cool for him.
Speaker 2: Then we get on the four train from Harlem one
Speaker 2: twenty fifth and you got to go all the way
Speaker 2: to Brooklyn. Y'all, it's a ride. Oh, it's expressed, but
Speaker 2: it's not that expressed. And halfway through he's like, Okay,
Speaker 2: let's go back home. And I was like, oh baby,
Speaker 2: it's the journey, not the destination. And then we got
Speaker 2: off the train torrential downpour, torrential downpour, no umbrella, and
Speaker 2: I wear dressed for summer sandals, like shorts. Oh my god.
Speaker 2: So I was like, but good thing. Rio and I
Speaker 2: kind of like he loves a little mischief and I
Speaker 2: love a little mischief. Enrique and Remy would not have
Speaker 2: been having that, but me and Rio were like, it's
Speaker 2: an adventure. How big can you jump over this puddle?
Speaker 2: Not that big? Because he got his shoes soaking wet
Speaker 2: and we showed up to the bookstore looking like two
Speaker 2: drowned rats. But it was a real fun event and
Speaker 2: I'm really glad that I went on my way to
Speaker 2: go because I love being a part of this publisher
Speaker 2: and just everything Krishan and her associate editor, Amina, who
Speaker 2: really championed me. She was like, Krishan, I know me
Speaker 2: and she's from Brown and Vish and you need to
Speaker 2: like what's been on this book. So thank you to
Speaker 2: Amina really for advocating. But what an incredible Yeah, what
Speaker 2: an incredible woman, and her legacy literally needs to live on.
Speaker 2: So I was happy to go, Oh that's great.
Speaker 1: Honestly, I love that. And like so when you I
Speaker 1: was doing a little key key with a friend of
Speaker 1: mine who owns who has access to this this back
Speaker 1: end portal called book scan. Have you heard a book
Speaker 1: scan before?
Speaker 2: Through you? Yeah, it's like where the analytics come through.
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, well only only physical books, so anytime basically
Speaker 1: book scan is literally just that. Anytime a book of
Speaker 1: scani literally a physical book of scan, then it's a
Speaker 1: it's a pop. I mean, obviously book scan, I'm sure
Speaker 1: they missed some things, but even whether it's Amazon, you know,
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter, like any book that scanned it like
Speaker 1: aggregates to this program and it's just a great like
Speaker 1: if you obviously, like I'm sure Kashan has access or
Speaker 1: if maybe you are like a publicist to like publishers
Speaker 1: or whatever or to authors. So it doesn't really make
Speaker 1: sense cause it's like four thousand dollars a year, so
Speaker 1: it doesn't make sense for like the average just to
Speaker 1: look at your well friend of mine has it and
Speaker 1: I didn't know. So we was like Kei King, and
Speaker 1: she's like, tip me, you know, I don't think you
Speaker 1: want to how well your book did. I'm like, no,
Speaker 1: I know it did good. She's like, no, I find
Speaker 1: to show you. And so we were putting in so
Speaker 1: she put in my you know, my book, and I
Speaker 1: was like, okay, so I know when I look at
Speaker 1: the Penguin behind the scenes, because if you have a
Speaker 1: Publis show, you get to see your numbers only only.
Speaker 1: So I sold just under three hundred thousand books, but
Speaker 1: that's in total. It says like physical books, audiobooks, Kindle,
Speaker 1: you know, like these digital books. I said, okay, about
Speaker 1: three hundred thousand, and so she said, let's look at
Speaker 1: and I knew that. On the penguin side, it shows
Speaker 1: me about fifty percent of your book sold our physical books.
Speaker 1: So when she showed me, she's like, look, you sold
Speaker 1: one hundred and forty two Since your book came out,
Speaker 1: you sold one hundred and forty two thousand copies, which
Speaker 1: that tracks based upon what you know. I see her penguin.
Speaker 1: So then I was like, let's can we see what
Speaker 1: can we see?
Speaker 2: Ricocheted my ear. I have never mastered the pop.
Speaker 1: I was like, can we see what the other girl
Speaker 1: I like to see? No, I was like, look, honestly, well,
Speaker 1: I mean honestly, the girls are to compare, but I
Speaker 1: wanted to see mostly really I wanted to see because
Speaker 1: the thing is, there are some books the marketing side
Speaker 1: looks so great, but I wanted to see how did
Speaker 1: it translate for sales. Because what she was trying to
Speaker 1: show me, my friend was trying to show me. She
Speaker 1: said that she's concerned because black and brown books are
Speaker 1: not selling like they ought to, and it's not it
Speaker 1: means that they're going to give less and less money
Speaker 1: to black and brown authors, you know. So she was
Speaker 1: showing me, like, look at this person that she pulled
Speaker 1: up like I say, like a Ryan Holliday. I was like,
Speaker 1: oh wow, you know. And then she was like, but
Speaker 1: then let's pull up somebody comparable in the space for
Speaker 1: black and brown. And she's like, look, I'm like, oh wow,
Speaker 1: you know. So I was one number that I was
Speaker 1: really surprised at is that I'm trying to think I
Speaker 1: should say her name. I mean, she she did great,
Speaker 1: but it made me realize just because I was wondering,
Speaker 1: I'm like, why is Penguins me like that girl? Anybody
Speaker 1: else I'll give books. So I was just share because
Speaker 1: she's awesome. We all love Miss Tabitha Brown me you
Speaker 1: want me a Tabitha the same age, but you know,
Speaker 1: we all call her Auntie tab.
Speaker 2: I'm on the show Tabatha.
Speaker 1: So Tabitha Tabitha is amazing. So she sold. So her
Speaker 1: book came out the same year as Mind twenty twenty one.
Speaker 1: This is just physical books. I'm sure her audio.
Speaker 2: Memoir Feeding the Soul or yes, something about yeah.
Speaker 1: So the very first book the yellow cover and it
Speaker 1: said since twenty twenty one, this how many books were scanned,
Speaker 1: about one hundred and seventy five thousand copies. And I
Speaker 1: was like, which is amazing, but since you know, since
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, I've sold one hundred and forty two thousand,
Speaker 1: I could not believe that was even in the same
Speaker 1: arena as Taba. I mean, Jabeth brid Is ginormous and
Speaker 1: lovely was like, that is why you're you're your publisher
Speaker 1: is sweating you, she said, Tiffany, because you're putting up
Speaker 1: Tabatha numbers. But I bet you they didn't give you
Speaker 1: Tabath the money.
Speaker 2: I was like, Oh, where's your line at Target?
Speaker 1: What to say?
Speaker 2: Where's your line at you know? And Brandon's strong, baby strong,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 1: So it just was just like these are these It
Speaker 1: was just such a good eye opening, you know. So
Speaker 1: it was like, you know, not shade obviously, because those
Speaker 1: are huge numbers. I didn't know that my numbers compared. Honestly.
Speaker 1: I just say all that to say that I just
Speaker 1: assumed that like you here and I'm here, and that
Speaker 1: you know, but no, So I just say all that
Speaker 1: to say.
Speaker 2: That I love that your friend gave you. I teached
Speaker 2: you a little bit about it, but that you know,
Speaker 2: that kind of information is power, and like you said,
Speaker 2: it's gate cap, it's kept not I mean, it's available
Speaker 2: if you got four g's to drop on it. But
Speaker 2: if you're not an industry insider, how would you know
Speaker 2: that would I'm similar, Yeah, it's similar for anyone who
Speaker 2: wants to know their value. Like, you don't know until
Speaker 2: you compare, and it's such a you know, and until
Speaker 2: you see your comparable people in the market and how
Speaker 2: they're doing, and then you can like, cause.
Speaker 1: Girl, like I'm here, and some of the girls get
Speaker 1: like because you know, Like, I mean, I had a
Speaker 1: I had a I had a good first book deal,
Speaker 1: but like, if I'm being candid, my second book deal
Speaker 1: wasn't reflective of the sales that I made. Like, well,
Speaker 1: I didn't get I didn't sign a second book because
Speaker 1: I refused. I was like this, this new number, Remember
Speaker 1: we talked about the number. The new number wasn't it
Speaker 1: was too close to the old number. And I mean
Speaker 1: at the time, I didn't know what I did what
Speaker 1: I did in comparison to other people, but I knew
Speaker 1: that I had done relatively well, and I was like, girl,
Speaker 1: this looked like the same as what you gave me
Speaker 1: the first time. It's not too far off. And so
Speaker 1: knowing now in comparison to like what the what's happening
Speaker 1: in the industry. They really, I mean I knew they
Speaker 1: kind of tried it, but I realized, oh, they super
Speaker 1: tried it because I'm like, not me having some of
Speaker 1: the numbers this table thing, and you're giving me like
Speaker 1: old Tiffany, you know, money. So anyway, like I'm not
Speaker 1: ready to write because I know they'd be listening, Hey girl,
Speaker 1: I'm out, but I'm not ready to write another book now,
Speaker 1: even though they're they be swayny, but I'll sweat me
Speaker 1: too because here's the thing about me, Like I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go with the money calls, just so we're clear, because
Speaker 1: I know you listen to hey girl, because I know
Speaker 1: they're still talking about out the book marketing that my
Speaker 1: team and I did Forget Her with money. You know,
Speaker 1: I didn't do the same for Maidehole because I was
Speaker 1: heavily in grief and even still Madehole has done very well.
Speaker 1: It's sold in total about twenty two or twenty five
Speaker 1: thousand copies since it came out in November, and about
Speaker 1: seventeen thousand that was in book Scan because that's the
Speaker 1: physical So Maide Whole is mostly selling physical because it's
Speaker 1: a work book. Yeah, so that's really great for like,
Speaker 1: you know, first few months out or whatever. So I
Speaker 1: just say all that to say that my now that
Speaker 1: I know my numbers now is when I do want
Speaker 1: to write another book, we're negotiating differently, and if not
Speaker 1: you somebody will pay me because you want top of
Speaker 1: the brown numbers. Oh okay, well I bring that to
Speaker 1: the Z book. What'd you give to coolha? So yeah,
Speaker 1: I just like it was just such a really great
Speaker 1: eye opener and another one that was kind of like
Speaker 1: not shocking, but you know we all love for meat.
Speaker 1: His so his book I Will Teach You to Be
Speaker 1: which his first iteration came out in two thousand and nine,
Speaker 1: and they stopped selling it toy nineteen because they have
Speaker 1: the New Iteration. So from two thousand and twenty nineteen
Speaker 1: he sold about one one seventy five. I just assumed
Speaker 1: for me had sold, yes, well just physical books, remember
Speaker 1: just physical books. But now you know his new book
Speaker 1: the New Iteration, because he had a version two it
Speaker 1: had because of his obviously, Netflix has blowed him out
Speaker 1: of the water. I mean the Meat was already tremendous,
Speaker 1: but Netflix took his notoriety to another level. That book
Speaker 1: has sold over six hundred and fifty thousand of just
Speaker 1: the physical book, which makes sense. But I would have
Speaker 1: thought I will teach you to be rich that first one.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I was like, I know millions, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know in that ten years. So it just
Speaker 1: I just say all that to say so when you
Speaker 1: see someone has sold two thousand and five thousand, ten thousand,
Speaker 1: those are big numbers, because I mean, because this is
Speaker 1: a ten years man, I think. And so I just
Speaker 1: share all that because a friend of mine was like, oh,
Speaker 1: I only sold sixty thousand copies. I'm like, girl, I don't.
Speaker 1: Don't you putting up numbers like sixty.
Speaker 2: I mean that's where the comparison is painful.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, it's so.
Speaker 2: Hard because you you know, it's such a balance. And
Speaker 2: I see because friends of mine have, like a lot
Speaker 2: of friends have come before me, and their books came
Speaker 2: out this year or coming out soon, and it's I
Speaker 2: see them do this dance between wanting to have high
Speaker 2: expectations because you deserve to shoot for the stars, but
Speaker 2: then also wanting to be okay with not reaching whatever
Speaker 2: level you think is the benchmark that you want to reach,
Speaker 2: whether it's getting on a certain list we all know
Speaker 2: the one, or like selling a certain number of copies.
Speaker 2: My friend Julie is a children's book author and she's
Speaker 2: the most freaking I mean not children's I mean she
Speaker 2: always is announcing a new book, and she has several
Speaker 2: that are just like beautiful books, award winning children's books.
Speaker 2: She's amazing. And I think I asked her, like because
Speaker 2: her most recent one, The Truth about Dragons, has got
Speaker 2: so much acclaim and that on so many lists. If
Speaker 2: you have a kid, go grab it. And I asked her, like, oh,
Speaker 2: how many copies did you sell? And she looked at
Speaker 2: me like I had five heads kind of. And it's
Speaker 2: different because it's not nonfiction, right, She's on a business.
Speaker 2: She works in the industry as well. She has a
Speaker 2: full time job and she's writing. But she was like, oh, no, no,
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't look at that ever, I don't.
Speaker 2: That's not it's not even in her like something about
Speaker 2: it with her. I don't know if this is like
Speaker 2: other authors as well, But she does not even think
Speaker 2: about it, doesn't even care. And she's like, and I
Speaker 2: think what she said at the time, I don't want
Speaker 2: to put words in her mouth. I could just text
Speaker 2: her and see. But I think we said at the
Speaker 2: time was something along the lines of like, it's just
Speaker 2: it's not the past. She wants to go down to
Speaker 2: start thinking about the numbers, and you know, and and
Speaker 2: because she has her full time job, she's okay to
Speaker 2: do this. I mean, she still makes you know, healthy advances.
Speaker 2: We did talk about that, but as far as numbers go,
Speaker 2: she just hasn't been focused on it.
Speaker 1: Yes, I guess, you know. And here's the thing, especially,
Speaker 1: I think with children's boks, I wrote, I was shocked
Speaker 1: to see book Scan had Molly Moore on there. I
Speaker 1: was like, how you got I didn't know my Molly
Speaker 1: Moore numbers. To your point, I had never check it
Speaker 1: because well that's because I wrote Molly Moore for the Joy,
Speaker 1: you know. I was like, so, I mean I knew
Speaker 1: we did the Kickstart or whatever, and Molly Moore told
Speaker 1: about fifteen hundred copies. I was like, okay, but I
Speaker 1: had never ever checked. And I got to see the
Speaker 1: one we budget, and I never my Amazon sales. I
Speaker 1: never knew because I don't know if the Amazon makes
Speaker 1: it readily available. So the one we budget my very
Speaker 1: first book that came out twenty eleven that sold like
Speaker 1: twenty two thousand copies. I guess since it came out,
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, these are nice numbers to know,
Speaker 1: gik of money. I was stalking it, but I wanted
Speaker 1: to see the work that we did, how did it translate?
Speaker 1: And also to all those other ones those were self published,
Speaker 1: I was like, girl, For me, the numbers means that
Speaker 1: I can attract more money as far as like a contract,
Speaker 1: you know. But for me the other books that I
Speaker 1: self published were just like no, I want, I want
Speaker 1: to get it out there. But I never to Juli's point,
Speaker 1: I had never checked those numbers. I mean, it was
Speaker 1: interesting to see, but you know, and I'm so glad
Speaker 1: I know my numbers because it now means that when
Speaker 1: it's time to like, you know, go back to the
Speaker 1: drawing board or to promote myself again, I know I
Speaker 1: can say, well, here's the thing. I saw the the
Speaker 1: press release that such as such got this seven figure contract.
Speaker 1: I looked up her numbers. I sold more than her.
Speaker 1: You see what I mean? Now I can have that
Speaker 1: kind of conversation when it comes to like that.
Speaker 2: So yes, more informed and goes yes, yeah, yeah, I mean,
Speaker 2: and as a I'm just so glad to know that
Speaker 2: I have like seen your journey of course, and I
Speaker 2: mean you've been so generous but like sharing. But for me,
Speaker 2: as I'm writing this book, those doubts start to come
Speaker 2: in and it's like, you know, it's like everyone has doubts, right,
Speaker 2: it's impossible to escape them. But the doubts say, what
Speaker 2: are you saying that's so different? And what do you
Speaker 2: have to offer? Like there's I go to the library
Speaker 2: and there's like shelves of books and I have checked
Speaker 2: them all out, and I'm like, oh, look, this has
Speaker 2: been written. That's been written. There's a brand new book
Speaker 2: that came out called Negotiating While Black that I just
Speaker 2: picked up that came out this year or last year. Anyway, However,
Speaker 2: my mind, I just have to like put it on
Speaker 2: sticky notes literally on my laptop and like, O rend me.
Speaker 2: When I'm writing, it's like just envision, just envision your audience.
Speaker 2: Just keep thinking about the woman that you're writing for,
Speaker 2: and what is she doing right now. She's not at
Speaker 2: the library reading these books. She's at work, feeling undervalued,
Speaker 2: feeling underpaid, feeling overlooked, feeling like she's token if she
Speaker 2: is getting opportunities as a black woman and feeling like
Speaker 2: how does she leverage those opportunities without falling victim to
Speaker 2: like the naivete that can come with being the token
Speaker 2: of like oh they love me, I'm protected and like,
Speaker 2: oh shit, no, I'm actually not. Like that's what I
Speaker 2: have to keep thinking about, and like if I like
Speaker 2: just talking myself through it, it's just about the woman
Speaker 2: I'm writing for. And if and like to think about
Speaker 2: one hundred thousand, like you're like one hundred thousand or
Speaker 2: one thousand, like one thousand people women just picking up
Speaker 2: my book, adding to Kart, opening the pages, touching them
Speaker 2: like highlighting. I want you to tear this book up, y'all.
Speaker 2: Circle like that is like okay, that's why you're doing
Speaker 2: it at the end of the day, and it's just yeah,
Speaker 2: it's a journey.
Speaker 1: It is.
Speaker 2: It's a journey.
Speaker 1: And the numbers are bigger than you think. Like I said,
Speaker 1: like you sell a thousand books, it said thousand people.
Speaker 1: If right now, thousand people are in your front lawn
Speaker 1: holding your book up, you'd be like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: what's going on? Like yeah, I don't want to give
Speaker 1: ourselves enough and honestly too, Like I said, the numbers
Speaker 1: are not for the most part, as much as we think,
Speaker 1: you know, like it certainly, of course, you know you
Speaker 1: look at Michelle Obama, You're like, oh, yeah, but how
Speaker 1: many of us are Michelle Shit? You know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So that's what I'm saying. But the numbers that we
Speaker 1: think are that the people we know are doing No,
Speaker 1: it's Mischelle Obama doing those numbers, not you know, not
Speaker 1: the person that you would think, not the person you're like,
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, it's not Tabitha. I mean, I love her, obviously,
Speaker 1: it's it's not re Meet. It's not it's it's one
Speaker 1: or two people that are doing that and then everyone
Speaker 1: else it's kind of like somewhere in the middle, which
Speaker 1: is fine and so reaching their people exactly. So it
Speaker 1: was just, yeah, it was nice to have a little
Speaker 1: you know, if you ever want to know. She was like, girl,
Speaker 1: just text me, Like, girl, you can look up this.
Speaker 1: It was really interesting to be like because you know,
Speaker 1: you see people talk a lot, they talk big, big talk.
Speaker 1: And she said, see I said, okay, girl, now we
Speaker 1: start to get paidy let me get off this line.
Speaker 2: Like Tiffy is calling again. Okay, search bar ready all right, sorry,
Speaker 2: let's take it quick, yes, oh after, yes, good twin,
Speaker 2: let's say break and come back. We haven't done brown
Speaker 2: booster breaking a long time. Okay, I'm a booths. I
Speaker 2: feel like that I was.
Speaker 1: I was negative earlier, not.
Speaker 2: Even that it happened to you. You're the victim, all right,
Speaker 2: B right, B B right, B see youson being a fan.
Speaker 1: And we're back and black at it, and I'm you're
Speaker 1: gonna boost a break and now it's time there we go.
Speaker 1: Boost up, break up, boost up, break up, boost up?
Speaker 1: Break Are you gonna boost? Are you gonna break? What
Speaker 1: you're gonna do? What you're going to Oh sidebar, I'm
Speaker 1: getting more men recognizing me.
Speaker 2: I didn't know where that sentence was gonna go. Get one.
Speaker 1: Like I was in Jersey City walking and there was
Speaker 1: this guy. He looked black, but he sounded like he
Speaker 1: was speaking Arabic to his friend. And so it was
Speaker 1: like three men, but they were sounded like they were
Speaker 1: speaking Arabic like that, you know, like it's a really
Speaker 1: beautiful language and distinct, and so they were talking to
Speaker 1: each other, but they look black like they looked like,
Speaker 1: like to get black. So I don't know. Anyway, he like,
Speaker 1: I was with my two sisters. He looked at me
Speaker 1: and he said at first he asked if there was
Speaker 1: a bench. Jersey City is very walkable. He asked if
Speaker 1: we were gonna sit. He said, y'all gonna cool out
Speaker 1: on this bench and I was like, no, no, you can
Speaker 1: have it. And he said, wait, are you budget, Lisa?
Speaker 1: I said I am. He was like, sis, I love
Speaker 1: you yo, and I just was like, thank you so much.
Speaker 1: And that's a handful of men that's been happening more
Speaker 1: and more because you know, usually a woman will be like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, I love you and their boyfriend is like,
Speaker 1: who's that lady. Yeah, So I don't know.
Speaker 2: I love you know, I'm not surprised at all. I
Speaker 2: think you have universal appeal.
Speaker 1: I love that the men's is coming out. We love
Speaker 1: that you guys are you know, getting on financial track.
Speaker 1: So that was really fun. So if you listen to
Speaker 1: the podcast, it was really you know, it was I
Speaker 1: was dogging in ice cream, so I didn't want to
Speaker 1: stop me. When I say dog I was inhaling it.
Speaker 1: There's this place called Tompico tom something in Jersey City.
Speaker 1: They have a pound cake ice cream girl.
Speaker 2: Oh I love pound cake? What is that? Perfect?
Speaker 1: It is? Why is nobody else doing this? It's so good?
Speaker 1: So when I tell you, I was, I mean I
Speaker 1: was deeply so he said. I was like, it's like.
Speaker 2: The old school, is it? The old school ice cream
Speaker 2: store on the corner? Like yeah, literally, I lived in
Speaker 2: Jersey City.
Speaker 1: Yes, so called Delicio Soul, So anyway, I haven't been there,
Speaker 1: you know. So I was. I was making love to
Speaker 1: the ice cream, so I couldn't focus. I was like,
Speaker 1: I so, but I kept I kept the moving because.
Speaker 2: She's so real.
Speaker 1: Yo.
Speaker 2: You see her. She had ice cream come out of
Speaker 2: her mouth. She's so down with the people.
Speaker 1: That's not my booze. My boos is real quick, is
Speaker 1: am I? For the first time ever, I finally got
Speaker 1: a contract with the City of Newark to teach financial
Speaker 1: education to the babies. Not babies, but yes, I mean so,
Speaker 1: I am. So. I wrote a financial literacy curriculum based
Speaker 1: upon giging with mass and it's a it's a four
Speaker 1: week class, it's daily. It's during the summer. I think
Speaker 1: it starts July to August first, and it's from eight
Speaker 1: thirty am to eleven thirty am, and you just have
Speaker 1: to be a Newark High school student. It's totally free,
Speaker 1: totally school.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And so if you wanted to, like, there's my
Speaker 1: flyers all over the place. But if you wanted to
Speaker 1: sign up, go to Get Good with Money n PS
Speaker 1: and as a Newark PS and public school, Getka with
Speaker 1: Money nps dot com. Register. Like I said, totally free.
Speaker 1: Class starts next week, so everybody's going to get a book.
Speaker 1: There's five high schools where we actually teach it, so
Speaker 1: I'm going to come because it's five high school so
Speaker 1: I can't read all of it, so I'm going to
Speaker 1: go in like and you know, and go. But we're hiring.
Speaker 1: What I love too is that we're hiring New York
Speaker 1: teachers to teach it. And then yes, we're so annoying.
Speaker 1: I'm so excited because we get to well how.
Speaker 2: I felt like when you announced your book deal, I'm like,
Speaker 2: what did you do that? Just being back all the time,
Speaker 2: it's just amazing.
Speaker 1: We've been working so hard on it, and I'm so
Speaker 1: excited because the kids get my book made whole because
Speaker 1: I feel like the workbook is more appropriate for high
Speaker 1: school students. We're also secretly working with a let me
Speaker 1: keep it light, with an electronic company, if you will,
Speaker 1: to try to get the kids electronics. I'll just say
Speaker 1: that because we're still like working on it, trying to
Speaker 1: get a bank account. Right, Yeah, so I'm what I am.
Speaker 1: I bought tablets for each classroom too, and we're gonna
Speaker 1: wraple them off at the end to the kids who
Speaker 1: are there. But I'm trying to get each kid, quite honestly,
Speaker 1: a computer. Okay, so we're talking with somebody that's like,
Speaker 1: tell me more, and then even like a sneaker company
Speaker 1: reached out to us by maybe getting them back to
Speaker 1: school sneakers, you know, one of the ones that the
Speaker 1: girls the kids be liking. And I have so many
Speaker 1: guest speakers, Like what I really wanted was like dope
Speaker 1: newer graduates like Cabra. You know that's why, bestie. But
Speaker 1: you know Cabro was born and raised in Newark, has
Speaker 1: a successful family business, so he's going to be like,
Speaker 1: you know, like a guest speaker because I want kids
Speaker 1: to see, Oh you from where I'm from. You want
Speaker 1: to say high school? And I did you know? So
Speaker 1: I'm just really excited, like and I'm hoping that it
Speaker 1: goes well so that way, I want to you know,
Speaker 1: I want to do it in the fall because I
Speaker 1: y'all know, for those of you who've been listening for
Speaker 1: a while, that I worked really hard with the my
Speaker 1: assembly woman at the time, she's now Senator Angela McKnight
Speaker 1: to get the Budget Needs To law passed, which made
Speaker 1: financial education mandatory for middle school students in New Jersey,
Speaker 1: not just Newark, all of New Jersey. And because New
Speaker 1: Jersey already has a law for high school students, and
Speaker 1: so I've been wanting to, like, so I get this
Speaker 1: law passed, but I'm not teaching anything in the city
Speaker 1: where I live and where I was born, and so yeah,
Speaker 1: there's still some spots open. So if you got a kid,
Speaker 1: you know, a kid in Newark that they just have
Speaker 1: to be in high school, it's totally free. There's five
Speaker 1: different locations. I think it's like Weekway Central if you're
Speaker 1: from York, you know, go to get good with Money.
Speaker 1: And as a Newark PS and public s as in
Speaker 1: school get gos money NPS dot com. We're gonna put
Speaker 1: that in the show notes too. But yeah, I'm just
Speaker 1: really proud of it. Like I get to like do
Speaker 1: something for like these babies right here.
Speaker 2: You know that is so incredible. I'm so proud of you.
Speaker 1: Thank you.
Speaker 2: And it's just the you know, you've been a teacher
Speaker 2: for so many years you still do teach, but like
Speaker 2: this is so it just feels very like full circle.
Speaker 2: Yes it does. I know they're not like toddlers, but
Speaker 2: you know these are little budding young adults are going
Speaker 2: into college. Oh my gun, I know that's I'm just like,
Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know what to say. I'm
Speaker 2: speechless a little bit. But that's just really incredible. So great. Okay,
Speaker 2: let me see. My boost is going to be about
Speaker 2: my really good friend. Her name is Jessica. I should
Speaker 2: say the honorable Jessica because she is a whole ass
Speaker 2: federal and and somehow this little ragamuffin is her friend.
Speaker 2: And I get to go. I'm going today to an investige,
Speaker 2: which is basically like a real fancy event we had.
Speaker 2: She had a brunch yesterday because so many of her
Speaker 2: family and friends from across country. When I tell you
Speaker 2: this woman her family and friends, she has friends from
Speaker 2: elementary school, every stage of life, I'm just like, how
Speaker 2: am I in this orbit? She's so smart. I mean,
Speaker 2: she's just so special. She was appointed by President Biden
Speaker 2: for this judge ship a couple of years ago. It
Speaker 2: took a long ass time to actually get her. Yeah,
Speaker 2: she had to go through all these confirmation hearings and
Speaker 2: it took a really long time. And I remember just
Speaker 2: meeting her and she was going through it, and she
Speaker 2: was so calm about the whole thing and so level.
Speaker 2: And I don't know how she coped, because to have
Speaker 2: people who don't know anything about you trying to keep
Speaker 2: your you know, your destiny from them if you've worked
Speaker 2: so hard for But she got it. She got in.
Speaker 2: She's been there for a year, and I've never been
Speaker 2: to an event like this, and I'm just trying not
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm gonna I'm wearing a nice dress. I'm
Speaker 2: going to try to like represent her well not embarrassed myself.
Speaker 2: And you know, in the wake of Katanji Brown Jackson's
Speaker 2: come from to the Supreme Court, it's just nice to
Speaker 2: see that the the intention of like appointing more women
Speaker 2: of color to these judge ships, judge ships. I said
Speaker 2: that yesterday to an attorney one of her many illustrious friends,
Speaker 2: and I was like, does that sound stupid? I don't
Speaker 2: know what I'm talking about judges, judge jobs. It's just
Speaker 2: great because I think Jessica is definitely an indication that
Speaker 2: you know, they're they're moving a little bit more in
Speaker 2: the right direction. But I'm excited to celebrate her. And yeah,
Speaker 2: that's that's the boost. Is she is she? No, she's
Speaker 2: forty something, wow, yeah, but still young girl. Yeah. I
Speaker 2: was talking to when she used to work for the
Speaker 2: Attorney General Latish. Oh sorry, I almost said Tish, like
Speaker 2: I know her personally, I don't Jessica calls her Tish,
Speaker 2: so Latitia James anyway, and uh, one of her former
Speaker 2: colleagues who's there works for like a very fancy law firm,
Speaker 2: was telling me about how Jessica is probably the first
Speaker 2: judge to have an after party because a lot of
Speaker 2: them are just so old and crustal. But we don't
Speaker 2: have a time, got the babysitter coming. Yeah, So I'm
Speaker 2: just yeah, I'm really really excited. And I just am like,
Speaker 2: shout out to me for rolling my window down in
Speaker 2: the daycare parking lot and being like black lady, Hi,
Speaker 2: let's be friends.
Speaker 1: I love that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, that's not awesome.
Speaker 1: Well, we congratulate you and salute you, misjudge Jessica.
Speaker 2: Yes, the honorable honorable honorable Jessica. Do you get a judge?
Speaker 2: I don't know what to get her? Tip? Do you
Speaker 2: have any ideas?
Speaker 1: I gavel? I don't know.
Speaker 2: I was so dorky. I was like, can you show
Speaker 2: me your robes? And she showed me that the website.
Speaker 1: Where I know that is.
Speaker 2: I was like, are you gonna doily? Like RBG? Are
Speaker 2: we doing a doily? She's like, Mandy, I mean I
Speaker 2: texted her about I shouldn't be talking about this. I
Speaker 2: text her things and I'm like, you probably shouldn't answer that. Nevermind,
Speaker 2: I don't know what just it. Don't say anything. Let's
Speaker 2: talk about nothing something else, like shit. I don't know
Speaker 2: how to be a judge's friend, but I do know
Speaker 2: how to be a friend.
Speaker 1: Mandy, you are a let's talk about Bridgerton? Are gonna
Speaker 1: talk about Richison?
Speaker 2: She is a Fridgie fan, which is I'm like, yes,
Speaker 2: let me talk about that. I don't know how people
Speaker 2: watch Bridgerton in groups, because I can't. It's a personal experience.
Speaker 1: It is because I mean, I'm not gonna lie. I
Speaker 1: have to rewind. Sometimes I'm like I didn't see that
Speaker 1: again and again and against girl.
Speaker 2: You don't even have you even finished episode four?
Speaker 1: No, I just you know my face excited for you
Speaker 1: when she like ate the cupcake and she like looked
Speaker 1: at her and he was like, I rewinded that, so
Speaker 1: it us.
Speaker 2: I was like, that's just wait a second, you rewhelmed
Speaker 2: that scene.
Speaker 1: Oh I love I love the subtle scene.
Speaker 2: So I f you're out how it's spoiled for you.
Speaker 1: Not that she brings the top tons out, but I
Speaker 1: just yeah.
Speaker 2: But no, but before oh girl, the season episode four,
Speaker 2: Get you a drink, Get you a nice cup of
Speaker 2: tea and a nice cozy blanket, Get that weighted blanket,
Speaker 2: you know, like cozy up and get ready to hit
Speaker 2: that rewind button.
Speaker 1: Sorry, ladies whose kids are watching their cart Okay, Oh
Speaker 1: it's so good.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be on No No real quick. I want
Speaker 2: to say I'm gonna be onto Black Girls one rose
Speaker 2: to talk about Bridgerton tomorrow, Tiff, if you're free at
Speaker 2: three pm, I feel like you should pull up because
Speaker 2: they are also going to come on Brown Ambition. But
Speaker 2: I literally invited myself on their show, and I was like, yeah,
Speaker 2: Tiffy doesn't care. You should come if I have time. Yeah,
Speaker 2: we'll see, we'll see, all right.
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