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Speaker 1: Hey, hey, Hey, we're back. We're black, We're brown. Ambition, ambition,

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Speaker 1: am buddy, Mandy. I'm having a hell out of my work.

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Speaker 2: It's only Monday, so it's literally like four hours into

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Speaker 2: the work week.

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Speaker 1: This is this is gonna be the complain of episode,

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Speaker 1: so I might as well start on June tenth week.

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Speaker 2: How did you?

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Speaker 1: How are you?

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Speaker 2: Girl? Well, I have to remember this time to say

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Speaker 2: Happy Juneteenth because it's going to be Wednesday when we

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Speaker 2: air this show. It's a federal holiday, and I am

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Speaker 2: so happy. The ancestors are pleased. However, the children are

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Speaker 2: going to be home, so it's my my precious, my

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Speaker 2: precious workday is fucked. But husband is also going to

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Speaker 2: be home, so I'm just like m be super bad.

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Speaker 2: But yes, Happy Juneteenth and to all who celebrate. I

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Speaker 2: feel like this coming weekend, I live in Greenberg, which

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Speaker 2: is don't put that in the show. People already kind

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Speaker 2: of know. I live in a town in yeah, north

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Speaker 2: of a little bit north of Manhattan and the Burbs

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Speaker 2: that is like historically black and has a lot of

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Speaker 2: like cultural significance, and they are doing a Juneteenth celebration

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Speaker 2: on this coming weekends. I might do that well, you know.

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Speaker 1: I live in blackly black black black NewYork, so you do.

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Speaker 1: So I'm sure there's going to be a just.

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Speaker 2: Walk out the door and say hello. I know, like

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Speaker 2: it shouldn't. We don't need to perform. That's why I

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Speaker 2: feel like a Juneteenth does not have to be about performative,

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Speaker 2: kind of like I enjoy them to a certain extent,

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Speaker 2: but also I'm just like, why are we putting this

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Speaker 2: as a Hallmark card industry or whatever invented it and

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Speaker 2: all that. But Juneteenth, I just like, like, let's just

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean. So I'm happy we got

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Speaker 2: like a little June. If the Pride, if the LGBTQA

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Speaker 2: plus community will allow us to steal one day of

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Speaker 2: Pride month, happy pride as well to everybody who celebrates.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I just you know, I just came out

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Speaker 2: of group therapy, so I'm.

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Speaker 1: Like, how was that is that your first session.

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Speaker 2: Now I've been doing group therapy the hour before the podcast.

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Speaker 2: It's kind of not the most idea. It's fine, but

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Speaker 2: I'm just like in the group therapy, like turning my

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Speaker 2: group therapy at the same time. I am like, this

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Speaker 1: I love that.

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Speaker 2: And for randomly Amy Poehler, who I just her to

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Speaker 2: I'm an individual and group therapy and I was like,

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Speaker 1: Is this a dress? Our shirt.

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Speaker 2: This is a dress. This dress is like the best

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Speaker 2: investment I've ever got, like a you want Bridgerton, but

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Speaker 1: Are you crazy? I watched all I'm currently it. Yes, Tiffany,

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Speaker 2: It's so good. Yeah, people are giving what we can

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's really hard to just I miss the

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Speaker 1: First of all, you is kind of wrong because you

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Speaker 2: So it's just that you can't be moving stuff. You

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Speaker 2: can be in your building. You own the play.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah exactly. And so they wrote me. So management

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Speaker 1: you know got to complain that you're using that you

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Speaker 1: because the all the elevator is too small even to

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Speaker 1: We had such short time. They couldn't move my bed,

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Speaker 2: Let them really well, because that is such one of

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Speaker 2: Exactly, so you know an interior designer in Jersey, not

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Speaker 1: Yes, please, but yeah, just that's it. Piece of cake was.

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Speaker 2: my god, he is. He's becoming. He like gets so

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Speaker 1: I don't know what does Measey told me that she

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Speaker 1: She said, okay, sidebars. She was like this how she

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Speaker 1: described She's like Mandy had the most adorable child. I

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So oh man, and your sister saw me like

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Speaker 1: Thanks.

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Speaker 2: My publisher Legacy Lit, who I'm writing my book with.

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Speaker 2: It was founded by Krishawn Trautman. She needs all the

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Speaker 2: flowers because these publishing houses are massive, right, and they

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Speaker 2: like which books are we going to bid on? How

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Speaker 2: much money are we going to you know, which authors

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Speaker 2: the year of like, let's right the wrongs in corporate

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Speaker 2: a lot of folks probably thought, we're, you know, are

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Speaker 2: But if anything, Legacy Lit because of Krishan's leadership and

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Speaker 2: like a panel for Juneteenth, like a Juneteenth celebration, and

430
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Speaker 2: it was catered by Al Roker's daughter, Courtney, because she's

431
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Speaker 2: also a Legacy Lit author. And they were a few

432
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Speaker 2: Legacy Lit authors who have recent books out and they

433
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Speaker 2: each read an excerpt from their books. And I think Tracy,

434
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Speaker 2: Tracy and Krishan know each other.

435
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Speaker 1: Yes, because I forget they met via like another publicist

436
00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:18,440
Speaker 1: introduced them or whatever, and then you know, Coshan trying

437
00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:20,680
Speaker 1: to sign me, and then they just became cool. Now

438
00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:23,480
Speaker 1: they're like, you know, they're like they're they're colleague friends,

439
00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:26,400
Speaker 1: so they support each other like they have actually working meetings.

440
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Speaker 1: She loves Croissan.

441
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Speaker 2: They seem like, yeah, they seem like a vibe. And

442
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Speaker 2: your sister, I forgot. I'm like, she's so tall and

443
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Speaker 2: statue esque and stunning, and I brought But the reason

444
00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:37,240
Speaker 2: I brought up Rio is because I brought him with me.

445
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Speaker 2: That was like a really convoluted way of telling that story.

446
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Speaker 2: I brought him with me on the train. I was like,

447
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Speaker 2: we're going to take the train to the city. You

448
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Speaker 2: want to come. He was so excited until we were like,

449
00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:47,959
Speaker 2: we did the Metro North. That was cool for him.

450
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Speaker 2: Then we get on the four train from Harlem one

451
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Speaker 2: twenty fifth and you got to go all the way

452
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Speaker 2: to Brooklyn. Y'all, it's a ride. Oh, it's expressed, but

453
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Speaker 2: it's not that expressed. And halfway through he's like, Okay,

454
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Speaker 2: let's go back home. And I was like, oh baby,

455
00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:04,480
Speaker 2: it's the journey, not the destination. And then we got

456
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Speaker 2: off the train torrential downpour, torrential downpour, no umbrella, and

457
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Speaker 2: I wear dressed for summer sandals, like shorts. Oh my god.

458
00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:15,080
Speaker 2: So I was like, but good thing. Rio and I

459
00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:17,600
Speaker 2: kind of like he loves a little mischief and I

460
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Speaker 2: love a little mischief. Enrique and Remy would not have

461
00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:22,080
Speaker 2: been having that, but me and Rio were like, it's

462
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Speaker 2: an adventure. How big can you jump over this puddle?

463
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Speaker 2: Not that big? Because he got his shoes soaking wet

464
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Speaker 2: and we showed up to the bookstore looking like two

465
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Speaker 2: drowned rats. But it was a real fun event and

466
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Speaker 2: I'm really glad that I went on my way to

467
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Speaker 2: go because I love being a part of this publisher

468
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Speaker 2: and just everything Krishan and her associate editor, Amina, who

469
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Speaker 2: really championed me. She was like, Krishan, I know me

470
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Speaker 2: and she's from Brown and Vish and you need to

471
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Speaker 2: like what's been on this book. So thank you to

472
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Speaker 2: Amina really for advocating. But what an incredible Yeah, what

473
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Speaker 2: an incredible woman, and her legacy literally needs to live on.

474
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Speaker 2: So I was happy to go, Oh that's great.

475
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Speaker 1: Honestly, I love that. And like so when you I

476
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Speaker 1: was doing a little key key with a friend of

477
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Speaker 1: mine who owns who has access to this this back

478
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Speaker 1: end portal called book scan. Have you heard a book

479
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Speaker 1: scan before?

480
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Speaker 2: Through you? Yeah, it's like where the analytics come through.

481
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Speaker 1: Right, yeah, well only only physical books, so anytime basically

482
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Speaker 1: book scan is literally just that. Anytime a book of

483
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Speaker 1: scani literally a physical book of scan, then it's a

484
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Speaker 1: it's a pop. I mean, obviously book scan, I'm sure

485
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Speaker 1: they missed some things, but even whether it's Amazon, you know,

486
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Speaker 1: it doesn't matter, like any book that scanned it like

487
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Speaker 1: aggregates to this program and it's just a great like

488
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Speaker 1: if you obviously, like I'm sure Kashan has access or

489
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Speaker 1: if maybe you are like a publicist to like publishers

490
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Speaker 1: or whatever or to authors. So it doesn't really make

491
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Speaker 1: sense cause it's like four thousand dollars a year, so

492
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Speaker 1: it doesn't make sense for like the average just to

493
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Speaker 1: look at your well friend of mine has it and

494
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Speaker 1: I didn't know. So we was like Kei King, and

495
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Speaker 1: she's like, tip me, you know, I don't think you

496
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Speaker 1: want to how well your book did. I'm like, no,

497
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Speaker 1: I know it did good. She's like, no, I find

498
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Speaker 1: to show you. And so we were putting in so

499
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Speaker 1: she put in my you know, my book, and I

500
00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:13,920
Speaker 1: was like, okay, so I know when I look at

501
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Speaker 1: the Penguin behind the scenes, because if you have a

502
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Speaker 1: Publis show, you get to see your numbers only only.

503
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Speaker 1: So I sold just under three hundred thousand books, but

504
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Speaker 1: that's in total. It says like physical books, audiobooks, Kindle,

505
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Speaker 1: you know, like these digital books. I said, okay, about

506
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Speaker 1: three hundred thousand, and so she said, let's look at

507
00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:33,320
Speaker 1: and I knew that. On the penguin side, it shows

508
00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:36,040
Speaker 1: me about fifty percent of your book sold our physical books.

509
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Speaker 1: So when she showed me, she's like, look, you sold

510
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Speaker 1: one hundred and forty two Since your book came out,

511
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Speaker 1: you sold one hundred and forty two thousand copies, which

512
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Speaker 1: that tracks based upon what you know. I see her penguin.

513
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Speaker 1: So then I was like, let's can we see what

514
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Speaker 1: can we see?

515
00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:57,200
Speaker 2: Ricocheted my ear. I have never mastered the pop.

516
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Speaker 1: I was like, can we see what the other girl

517
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Speaker 1: I like to see? No, I was like, look, honestly, well,

518
00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:09,720
Speaker 1: I mean honestly, the girls are to compare, but I

519
00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:12,760
Speaker 1: wanted to see mostly really I wanted to see because

520
00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:16,760
Speaker 1: the thing is, there are some books the marketing side

521
00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:18,480
Speaker 1: looks so great, but I wanted to see how did

522
00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:21,080
Speaker 1: it translate for sales. Because what she was trying to

523
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Speaker 1: show me, my friend was trying to show me. She

524
00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:28,280
Speaker 1: said that she's concerned because black and brown books are

525
00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:31,840
Speaker 1: not selling like they ought to, and it's not it

526
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Speaker 1: means that they're going to give less and less money

527
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Speaker 1: to black and brown authors, you know. So she was

528
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Speaker 1: showing me, like, look at this person that she pulled

529
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Speaker 1: up like I say, like a Ryan Holliday. I was like,

530
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Speaker 1: oh wow, you know. And then she was like, but

531
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Speaker 1: then let's pull up somebody comparable in the space for

532
00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:47,280
Speaker 1: black and brown. And she's like, look, I'm like, oh wow,

533
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Speaker 1: you know. So I was one number that I was

534
00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:53,359
Speaker 1: really surprised at is that I'm trying to think I

535
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Speaker 1: should say her name. I mean, she she did great,

536
00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:57,760
Speaker 1: but it made me realize just because I was wondering,

537
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Speaker 1: I'm like, why is Penguins me like that girl? Anybody

538
00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:01,640
Speaker 1: else I'll give books. So I was just share because

539
00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:03,800
Speaker 1: she's awesome. We all love Miss Tabitha Brown me you

540
00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:05,240
Speaker 1: want me a Tabitha the same age, but you know,

541
00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:06,680
Speaker 1: we all call her Auntie tab.

542
00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:07,880
Speaker 2: I'm on the show Tabatha.

543
00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:12,879
Speaker 1: So Tabitha Tabitha is amazing. So she sold. So her

544
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Speaker 1: book came out the same year as Mind twenty twenty one.

545
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:17,960
Speaker 1: This is just physical books. I'm sure her audio.

546
00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:21,000
Speaker 2: Memoir Feeding the Soul or yes, something about yeah.

547
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,440
Speaker 1: So the very first book the yellow cover and it

548
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:26,760
Speaker 1: said since twenty twenty one, this how many books were scanned,

549
00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:29,399
Speaker 1: about one hundred and seventy five thousand copies. And I

550
00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:32,480
Speaker 1: was like, which is amazing, but since you know, since

551
00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:35,760
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, I've sold one hundred and forty two thousand,

552
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:40,240
Speaker 1: I could not believe that was even in the same

553
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Speaker 1: arena as Taba. I mean, Jabeth brid Is ginormous and

554
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:48,360
Speaker 1: lovely was like, that is why you're you're your publisher

555
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:50,679
Speaker 1: is sweating you, she said, Tiffany, because you're putting up

556
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:52,320
Speaker 1: Tabatha numbers. But I bet you they didn't give you

557
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Speaker 1: Tabath the money.

558
00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:57,000
Speaker 2: I was like, Oh, where's your line at Target?

559
00:25:57,600 --> 00:25:58,440
Speaker 1: What to say?

560
00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:04,359
Speaker 2: Where's your line at you know? And Brandon's strong, baby strong,

561
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:04,679
Speaker 2: you know.

562
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:06,320
Speaker 1: So it just was just like these are these It

563
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 1: was just such a good eye opening, you know. So

564
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Speaker 1: it was like, you know, not shade obviously, because those

565
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,719
Speaker 1: are huge numbers. I didn't know that my numbers compared. Honestly.

566
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Speaker 1: I just say all that to say that I just

567
00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:18,920
Speaker 1: assumed that like you here and I'm here, and that

568
00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:22,119
Speaker 1: you know, but no, So I just say all that

569
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Speaker 1: to say.

570
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:25,160
Speaker 2: That I love that your friend gave you. I teached

571
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 2: you a little bit about it, but that you know,

572
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:31,920
Speaker 2: that kind of information is power, and like you said,

573
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:35,040
Speaker 2: it's gate cap, it's kept not I mean, it's available

574
00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:37,280
Speaker 2: if you got four g's to drop on it. But

575
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:39,639
Speaker 2: if you're not an industry insider, how would you know

576
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:42,840
Speaker 2: that would I'm similar, Yeah, it's similar for anyone who

577
00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:46,399
Speaker 2: wants to know their value. Like, you don't know until

578
00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:48,760
Speaker 2: you compare, and it's such a you know, and until

579
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:51,479
Speaker 2: you see your comparable people in the market and how

580
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:53,680
Speaker 2: they're doing, and then you can like, cause.

581
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:55,280
Speaker 1: Girl, like I'm here, and some of the girls get

582
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Speaker 1: like because you know, Like, I mean, I had a

583
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Speaker 1: I had a I had a good first book deal,

584
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:01,840
Speaker 1: but like, if I'm being candid, my second book deal

585
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 1: wasn't reflective of the sales that I made. Like, well,

586
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:06,440
Speaker 1: I didn't get I didn't sign a second book because

587
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 1: I refused. I was like this, this new number, Remember

588
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:12,600
Speaker 1: we talked about the number. The new number wasn't it

589
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:14,560
Speaker 1: was too close to the old number. And I mean

590
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:16,199
Speaker 1: at the time, I didn't know what I did what

591
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 1: I did in comparison to other people, but I knew

592
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 1: that I had done relatively well, and I was like, girl,

593
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:24,119
Speaker 1: this looked like the same as what you gave me

594
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:26,840
Speaker 1: the first time. It's not too far off. And so

595
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:30,919
Speaker 1: knowing now in comparison to like what the what's happening

596
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:33,000
Speaker 1: in the industry. They really, I mean I knew they

597
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:34,720
Speaker 1: kind of tried it, but I realized, oh, they super

598
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:37,119
Speaker 1: tried it because I'm like, not me having some of

599
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 1: the numbers this table thing, and you're giving me like

600
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 1: old Tiffany, you know, money. So anyway, like I'm not

601
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:44,840
Speaker 1: ready to write because I know they'd be listening, Hey girl,

602
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:47,520
Speaker 1: I'm out, but I'm not ready to write another book now,

603
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 1: even though they're they be swayny, but I'll sweat me

604
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:53,359
Speaker 1: too because here's the thing about me, Like I'm gonna

605
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 1: go with the money calls, just so we're clear, because

606
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 1: I know you listen to hey girl, because I know

607
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:02,720
Speaker 1: they're still talking about out the book marketing that my

608
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:05,439
Speaker 1: team and I did Forget Her with money. You know,

609
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:07,239
Speaker 1: I didn't do the same for Maidehole because I was

610
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 1: heavily in grief and even still Madehole has done very well.

611
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:14,120
Speaker 1: It's sold in total about twenty two or twenty five

612
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 1: thousand copies since it came out in November, and about

613
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:19,560
Speaker 1: seventeen thousand that was in book Scan because that's the

614
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 1: physical So Maide Whole is mostly selling physical because it's

615
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:24,679
Speaker 1: a work book. Yeah, so that's really great for like,

616
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 1: you know, first few months out or whatever. So I

617
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:29,480
Speaker 1: just say all that to say that my now that

618
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 1: I know my numbers now is when I do want

619
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 1: to write another book, we're negotiating differently, and if not

620
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:37,680
Speaker 1: you somebody will pay me because you want top of

621
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 1: the brown numbers. Oh okay, well I bring that to

622
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:44,320
Speaker 1: the Z book. What'd you give to coolha? So yeah,

623
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:45,920
Speaker 1: I just like it was just such a really great

624
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 1: eye opener and another one that was kind of like

625
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 1: not shocking, but you know we all love for meat.

626
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 1: His so his book I Will Teach You to Be

627
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:57,600
Speaker 1: which his first iteration came out in two thousand and nine,

628
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:01,320
Speaker 1: and they stopped selling it toy nineteen because they have

629
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 1: the New Iteration. So from two thousand and twenty nineteen

630
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 1: he sold about one one seventy five. I just assumed

631
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 1: for me had sold, yes, well just physical books, remember

632
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 1: just physical books. But now you know his new book

633
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 1: the New Iteration, because he had a version two it

634
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:22,239
Speaker 1: had because of his obviously, Netflix has blowed him out

635
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 1: of the water. I mean the Meat was already tremendous,

636
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:28,240
Speaker 1: but Netflix took his notoriety to another level. That book

637
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:32,200
Speaker 1: has sold over six hundred and fifty thousand of just

638
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 1: the physical book, which makes sense. But I would have

639
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 1: thought I will teach you to be rich that first one.

640
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 1: I don't know.

641
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 2: I was like, I know millions, I don't know.

642
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 1: I don't know in that ten years. So it just

643
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Speaker 1: I just say all that to say so when you

644
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 1: see someone has sold two thousand and five thousand, ten thousand,

645
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 1: those are big numbers, because I mean, because this is

646
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 1: a ten years man, I think. And so I just

647
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 1: share all that because a friend of mine was like, oh,

648
00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 1: I only sold sixty thousand copies. I'm like, girl, I don't.

649
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 1: Don't you putting up numbers like sixty.

650
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 2: I mean that's where the comparison is painful.

651
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, it's so.

652
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 2: Hard because you you know, it's such a balance. And

653
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 2: I see because friends of mine have, like a lot

654
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 2: of friends have come before me, and their books came

655
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 2: out this year or coming out soon, and it's I

656
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:23,680
Speaker 2: see them do this dance between wanting to have high

657
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:26,640
Speaker 2: expectations because you deserve to shoot for the stars, but

658
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 2: then also wanting to be okay with not reaching whatever

659
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 2: level you think is the benchmark that you want to reach,

660
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 2: whether it's getting on a certain list we all know

661
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:41,400
Speaker 2: the one, or like selling a certain number of copies.

662
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,400
Speaker 2: My friend Julie is a children's book author and she's

663
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 2: the most freaking I mean not children's I mean she

664
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Speaker 2: always is announcing a new book, and she has several

665
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 2: that are just like beautiful books, award winning children's books.

666
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:57,400
Speaker 2: She's amazing. And I think I asked her, like because

667
00:30:57,680 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 2: her most recent one, The Truth about Dragons, has got

668
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:02,719
Speaker 2: so much acclaim and that on so many lists. If

669
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 2: you have a kid, go grab it. And I asked her, like, oh,

670
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 2: how many copies did you sell? And she looked at

671
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 2: me like I had five heads kind of. And it's

672
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 2: different because it's not nonfiction, right, She's on a business.

673
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 2: She works in the industry as well. She has a

674
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 2: full time job and she's writing. But she was like, oh, no, no,

675
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't look at that ever, I don't.

676
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 2: That's not it's not even in her like something about

677
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 2: it with her. I don't know if this is like

678
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 2: other authors as well, But she does not even think

679
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 2: about it, doesn't even care. And she's like, and I

680
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 2: think what she said at the time, I don't want

681
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 2: to put words in her mouth. I could just text

682
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 2: her and see. But I think we said at the

683
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 2: time was something along the lines of like, it's just

684
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 2: it's not the past. She wants to go down to

685
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 2: start thinking about the numbers, and you know, and and

686
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 2: because she has her full time job, she's okay to

687
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:51,640
Speaker 2: do this. I mean, she still makes you know, healthy advances.

688
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 2: We did talk about that, but as far as numbers go,

689
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 2: she just hasn't been focused on it.

690
00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 1: Yes, I guess, you know. And here's the thing, especially,

691
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:01,240
Speaker 1: I think with children's boks, I wrote, I was shocked

692
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 1: to see book Scan had Molly Moore on there. I

693
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 1: was like, how you got I didn't know my Molly

694
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 1: Moore numbers. To your point, I had never check it

695
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 1: because well that's because I wrote Molly Moore for the Joy,

696
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 1: you know. I was like, so, I mean I knew

697
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 1: we did the Kickstart or whatever, and Molly Moore told

698
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 1: about fifteen hundred copies. I was like, okay, but I

699
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:21,479
Speaker 1: had never ever checked. And I got to see the

700
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 1: one we budget, and I never my Amazon sales. I

701
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 1: never knew because I don't know if the Amazon makes

702
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 1: it readily available. So the one we budget my very

703
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 1: first book that came out twenty eleven that sold like

704
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 1: twenty two thousand copies. I guess since it came out,

705
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, these are nice numbers to know,

706
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:38,520
Speaker 1: gik of money. I was stalking it, but I wanted

707
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 1: to see the work that we did, how did it translate?

708
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 1: And also to all those other ones those were self published,

709
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 1: I was like, girl, For me, the numbers means that

710
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 1: I can attract more money as far as like a contract,

711
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:53,880
Speaker 1: you know. But for me the other books that I

712
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 1: self published were just like no, I want, I want

713
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 1: to get it out there. But I never to Juli's point,

714
00:32:58,400 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 1: I had never checked those numbers. I mean, it was

715
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:02,480
Speaker 1: interesting to see, but you know, and I'm so glad

716
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 1: I know my numbers because it now means that when

717
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 1: it's time to like, you know, go back to the

718
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 1: drawing board or to promote myself again, I know I

719
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 1: can say, well, here's the thing. I saw the the

720
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 1: press release that such as such got this seven figure contract.

721
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 1: I looked up her numbers. I sold more than her.

722
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:24,240
Speaker 1: You see what I mean? Now I can have that

723
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 1: kind of conversation when it comes to like that.

724
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 2: So yes, more informed and goes yes, yeah, yeah, I mean,

725
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 2: and as a I'm just so glad to know that

726
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:37,720
Speaker 2: I have like seen your journey of course, and I

727
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 2: mean you've been so generous but like sharing. But for me,

728
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 2: as I'm writing this book, those doubts start to come

729
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 2: in and it's like, you know, it's like everyone has doubts, right,

730
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 2: it's impossible to escape them. But the doubts say, what

731
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 2: are you saying that's so different? And what do you

732
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 2: have to offer? Like there's I go to the library

733
00:33:57,640 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 2: and there's like shelves of books and I have checked

734
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:01,240
Speaker 2: them all out, and I'm like, oh, look, this has

735
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:03,600
Speaker 2: been written. That's been written. There's a brand new book

736
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 2: that came out called Negotiating While Black that I just

737
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:11,760
Speaker 2: picked up that came out this year or last year. Anyway, However,

738
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:15,840
Speaker 2: my mind, I just have to like put it on

739
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 2: sticky notes literally on my laptop and like, O rend me.

740
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:24,280
Speaker 2: When I'm writing, it's like just envision, just envision your audience.

741
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:26,359
Speaker 2: Just keep thinking about the woman that you're writing for,

742
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:28,480
Speaker 2: and what is she doing right now. She's not at

743
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 2: the library reading these books. She's at work, feeling undervalued,

744
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:35,920
Speaker 2: feeling underpaid, feeling overlooked, feeling like she's token if she

745
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 2: is getting opportunities as a black woman and feeling like

746
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 2: how does she leverage those opportunities without falling victim to

747
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:46,280
Speaker 2: like the naivete that can come with being the token

748
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 2: of like oh they love me, I'm protected and like,

749
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 2: oh shit, no, I'm actually not. Like that's what I

750
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 2: have to keep thinking about, and like if I like

751
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:58,200
Speaker 2: just talking myself through it, it's just about the woman

752
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 2: I'm writing for. And if and like to think about

753
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:04,759
Speaker 2: one hundred thousand, like you're like one hundred thousand or

754
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:08,960
Speaker 2: one thousand, like one thousand people women just picking up

755
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:14,759
Speaker 2: my book, adding to Kart, opening the pages, touching them

756
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:17,400
Speaker 2: like highlighting. I want you to tear this book up, y'all.

757
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 2: Circle like that is like okay, that's why you're doing

758
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:25,920
Speaker 2: it at the end of the day, and it's just yeah,

759
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 2: it's a journey.

760
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 1: It is.

761
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:28,400
Speaker 2: It's a journey.

762
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 1: And the numbers are bigger than you think. Like I said,

763
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 1: like you sell a thousand books, it said thousand people.

764
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:36,319
Speaker 1: If right now, thousand people are in your front lawn

765
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:38,120
Speaker 1: holding your book up, you'd be like, oh my god,

766
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:41,399
Speaker 1: what's going on? Like yeah, I don't want to give

767
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 1: ourselves enough and honestly too, Like I said, the numbers

768
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 1: are not for the most part, as much as we think,

769
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:48,719
Speaker 1: you know, like it certainly, of course, you know you

770
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 1: look at Michelle Obama, You're like, oh, yeah, but how

771
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:52,919
Speaker 1: many of us are Michelle Shit? You know what I mean.

772
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 1: So that's what I'm saying. But the numbers that we

773
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:57,279
Speaker 1: think are that the people we know are doing No,

774
00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 1: it's Mischelle Obama doing those numbers, not you know, not

775
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 1: the person that you would think, not the person you're like,

776
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, it's not Tabitha. I mean, I love her, obviously,

777
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:07,239
Speaker 1: it's it's not re Meet. It's not it's it's one

778
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:09,360
Speaker 1: or two people that are doing that and then everyone

779
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:11,719
Speaker 1: else it's kind of like somewhere in the middle, which

780
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:15,719
Speaker 1: is fine and so reaching their people exactly. So it

781
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:17,839
Speaker 1: was just, yeah, it was nice to have a little

782
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:19,359
Speaker 1: you know, if you ever want to know. She was like, girl,

783
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:20,799
Speaker 1: just text me, Like, girl, you can look up this.

784
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:24,840
Speaker 1: It was really interesting to be like because you know,

785
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 1: you see people talk a lot, they talk big, big talk.

786
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:29,880
Speaker 1: And she said, see I said, okay, girl, now we

787
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 1: start to get paidy let me get off this line.

788
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:39,400
Speaker 2: Like Tiffy is calling again. Okay, search bar ready all right, sorry,

789
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:43,399
Speaker 2: let's take it quick, yes, oh after, yes, good twin,

790
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 2: let's say break and come back. We haven't done brown

791
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:48,800
Speaker 2: booster breaking a long time. Okay, I'm a booths. I

792
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:49,719
Speaker 2: feel like that I was.

793
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 1: I was negative earlier, not.

794
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:57,319
Speaker 2: Even that it happened to you. You're the victim, all right,

795
00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:01,440
Speaker 2: B right, B B right, B see youson being a fan.

796
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:11,839
Speaker 1: And we're back and black at it, and I'm you're

797
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:15,359
Speaker 1: gonna boost a break and now it's time there we go.

798
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 1: Boost up, break up, boost up, break up, boost up?

799
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:24,319
Speaker 1: Break Are you gonna boost? Are you gonna break? What

800
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 1: you're gonna do? What you're going to Oh sidebar, I'm

801
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 1: getting more men recognizing me.

802
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 2: I didn't know where that sentence was gonna go. Get one.

803
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:42,799
Speaker 1: Like I was in Jersey City walking and there was

804
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 1: this guy. He looked black, but he sounded like he

805
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:48,400
Speaker 1: was speaking Arabic to his friend. And so it was

806
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:49,799
Speaker 1: like three men, but they were sounded like they were

807
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 1: speaking Arabic like that, you know, like it's a really

808
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 1: beautiful language and distinct, and so they were talking to

809
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 1: each other, but they look black like they looked like,

810
00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:58,840
Speaker 1: like to get black. So I don't know. Anyway, he like,

811
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 1: I was with my two sisters. He looked at me

812
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 1: and he said at first he asked if there was

813
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:05,239
Speaker 1: a bench. Jersey City is very walkable. He asked if

814
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:07,239
Speaker 1: we were gonna sit. He said, y'all gonna cool out

815
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:08,839
Speaker 1: on this bench and I was like, no, no, you can

816
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:11,880
Speaker 1: have it. And he said, wait, are you budget, Lisa?

817
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 1: I said I am. He was like, sis, I love

818
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 1: you yo, and I just was like, thank you so much.

819
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 1: And that's a handful of men that's been happening more

820
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:23,840
Speaker 1: and more because you know, usually a woman will be like,

821
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:25,360
Speaker 1: oh my god, I love you and their boyfriend is like,

822
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 1: who's that lady. Yeah, So I don't know.

823
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 2: I love you know, I'm not surprised at all. I

824
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 2: think you have universal appeal.

825
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:35,399
Speaker 1: I love that the men's is coming out. We love

826
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 1: that you guys are you know, getting on financial track.

827
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:39,360
Speaker 1: So that was really fun. So if you listen to

828
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:41,400
Speaker 1: the podcast, it was really you know, it was I

829
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 1: was dogging in ice cream, so I didn't want to

830
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 1: stop me. When I say dog I was inhaling it.

831
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 1: There's this place called Tompico tom something in Jersey City.

832
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:52,319
Speaker 1: They have a pound cake ice cream girl.

833
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:56,840
Speaker 2: Oh I love pound cake? What is that? Perfect?

834
00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:00,399
Speaker 1: It is? Why is nobody else doing this? It's so good?

835
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:01,719
Speaker 1: So when I tell you, I was, I mean I

836
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:06,319
Speaker 1: was deeply so he said. I was like, it's like.

837
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:08,759
Speaker 2: The old school, is it? The old school ice cream

838
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:11,279
Speaker 2: store on the corner? Like yeah, literally, I lived in

839
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:12,200
Speaker 2: Jersey City.

840
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:17,279
Speaker 1: Yes, so called Delicio Soul, So anyway, I haven't been there,

841
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 1: you know. So I was. I was making love to

842
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 1: the ice cream, so I couldn't focus. I was like,

843
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 1: I so, but I kept I kept the moving because.

844
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 2: She's so real.

845
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:25,960
Speaker 1: Yo.

846
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 2: You see her. She had ice cream come out of

847
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 2: her mouth. She's so down with the people.

848
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 1: That's not my booze. My boos is real quick, is

849
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:38,960
Speaker 1: am I? For the first time ever, I finally got

850
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 1: a contract with the City of Newark to teach financial

851
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 1: education to the babies. Not babies, but yes, I mean so,

852
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:50,279
Speaker 1: I am. So. I wrote a financial literacy curriculum based

853
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Speaker 1: upon giging with mass and it's a it's a four

854
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Speaker 1: week class, it's daily. It's during the summer. I think

855
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 1: it starts July to August first, and it's from eight

856
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:06,840
Speaker 1: thirty am to eleven thirty am, and you just have

857
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 1: to be a Newark High school student. It's totally free,

858
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 1: totally school.

859
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:12,960
Speaker 2: Okay.

860
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:15,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, And so if you wanted to, like, there's my

861
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 1: flyers all over the place. But if you wanted to

862
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:21,920
Speaker 1: sign up, go to Get Good with Money n PS

863
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 1: and as a Newark PS and public school, Getka with

864
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 1: Money nps dot com. Register. Like I said, totally free.

865
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 1: Class starts next week, so everybody's going to get a book.

866
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:35,839
Speaker 1: There's five high schools where we actually teach it, so

867
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 1: I'm going to come because it's five high school so

868
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 1: I can't read all of it, so I'm going to

869
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:41,320
Speaker 1: go in like and you know, and go. But we're hiring.

870
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 1: What I love too is that we're hiring New York

871
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:47,360
Speaker 1: teachers to teach it. And then yes, we're so annoying.

872
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:50,360
Speaker 1: I'm so excited because we get to well how.

873
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 2: I felt like when you announced your book deal, I'm like,

874
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:56,239
Speaker 2: what did you do that? Just being back all the time,

875
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 2: it's just amazing.

876
00:40:57,560 --> 00:40:59,239
Speaker 1: We've been working so hard on it, and I'm so

877
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:01,439
Speaker 1: excited because the kids get my book made whole because

878
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 1: I feel like the workbook is more appropriate for high

879
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:07,319
Speaker 1: school students. We're also secretly working with a let me

880
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:10,759
Speaker 1: keep it light, with an electronic company, if you will,

881
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 1: to try to get the kids electronics. I'll just say

882
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:15,960
Speaker 1: that because we're still like working on it, trying to

883
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:19,480
Speaker 1: get a bank account. Right, Yeah, so I'm what I am.

884
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 1: I bought tablets for each classroom too, and we're gonna

885
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 1: wraple them off at the end to the kids who

886
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 1: are there. But I'm trying to get each kid, quite honestly,

887
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:28,319
Speaker 1: a computer. Okay, so we're talking with somebody that's like,

888
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 1: tell me more, and then even like a sneaker company

889
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 1: reached out to us by maybe getting them back to

890
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 1: school sneakers, you know, one of the ones that the

891
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:38,759
Speaker 1: girls the kids be liking. And I have so many

892
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:41,279
Speaker 1: guest speakers, Like what I really wanted was like dope

893
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:43,759
Speaker 1: newer graduates like Cabra. You know that's why, bestie. But

894
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:45,799
Speaker 1: you know Cabro was born and raised in Newark, has

895
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 1: a successful family business, so he's going to be like,

896
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:49,879
Speaker 1: you know, like a guest speaker because I want kids

897
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:52,359
Speaker 1: to see, Oh you from where I'm from. You want

898
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 1: to say high school? And I did you know? So

899
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:56,920
Speaker 1: I'm just really excited, like and I'm hoping that it

900
00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:59,880
Speaker 1: goes well so that way, I want to you know,

901
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 1: I want to do it in the fall because I

902
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 1: y'all know, for those of you who've been listening for

903
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:07,719
Speaker 1: a while, that I worked really hard with the my

904
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 1: assembly woman at the time, she's now Senator Angela McKnight

905
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:13,480
Speaker 1: to get the Budget Needs To law passed, which made

906
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:17,240
Speaker 1: financial education mandatory for middle school students in New Jersey,

907
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:19,440
Speaker 1: not just Newark, all of New Jersey. And because New

908
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:21,799
Speaker 1: Jersey already has a law for high school students, and

909
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 1: so I've been wanting to, like, so I get this

910
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 1: law passed, but I'm not teaching anything in the city

911
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:28,920
Speaker 1: where I live and where I was born, and so yeah,

912
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:31,919
Speaker 1: there's still some spots open. So if you got a kid,

913
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 1: you know, a kid in Newark that they just have

914
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 1: to be in high school, it's totally free. There's five

915
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 1: different locations. I think it's like Weekway Central if you're

916
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 1: from York, you know, go to get good with Money.

917
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 1: And as a Newark PS and public s as in

918
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 1: school get gos money NPS dot com. We're gonna put

919
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:52,719
Speaker 1: that in the show notes too. But yeah, I'm just

920
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:54,279
Speaker 1: really proud of it. Like I get to like do

921
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:56,399
Speaker 1: something for like these babies right here.

922
00:42:56,600 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 2: You know that is so incredible. I'm so proud of you.

923
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 1: Thank you.

924
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:04,920
Speaker 2: And it's just the you know, you've been a teacher

925
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 2: for so many years you still do teach, but like

926
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:10,400
Speaker 2: this is so it just feels very like full circle.

927
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 2: Yes it does. I know they're not like toddlers, but

928
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 2: you know these are little budding young adults are going

929
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 2: into college. Oh my gun, I know that's I'm just like,

930
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:23,319
Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know what to say. I'm

931
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 2: speechless a little bit. But that's just really incredible. So great. Okay,

932
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:32,719
Speaker 2: let me see. My boost is going to be about

933
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 2: my really good friend. Her name is Jessica. I should

934
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 2: say the honorable Jessica because she is a whole ass

935
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 2: federal and and somehow this little ragamuffin is her friend.

936
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 2: And I get to go. I'm going today to an investige,

937
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:55,920
Speaker 2: which is basically like a real fancy event we had.

938
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:58,920
Speaker 2: She had a brunch yesterday because so many of her

939
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 2: family and friends from across country. When I tell you

940
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 2: this woman her family and friends, she has friends from

941
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 2: elementary school, every stage of life, I'm just like, how

942
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:10,799
Speaker 2: am I in this orbit? She's so smart. I mean,

943
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:14,400
Speaker 2: she's just so special. She was appointed by President Biden

944
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 2: for this judge ship a couple of years ago. It

945
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:20,320
Speaker 2: took a long ass time to actually get her. Yeah,

946
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:23,960
Speaker 2: she had to go through all these confirmation hearings and

947
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:25,920
Speaker 2: it took a really long time. And I remember just

948
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 2: meeting her and she was going through it, and she

949
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:31,960
Speaker 2: was so calm about the whole thing and so level.

950
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 2: And I don't know how she coped, because to have

951
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 2: people who don't know anything about you trying to keep

952
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 2: your you know, your destiny from them if you've worked

953
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 2: so hard for But she got it. She got in.

954
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:45,520
Speaker 2: She's been there for a year, and I've never been

955
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 2: to an event like this, and I'm just trying not

956
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:50,839
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm gonna I'm wearing a nice dress. I'm

957
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:55,280
Speaker 2: going to try to like represent her well not embarrassed myself.

958
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:59,279
Speaker 2: And you know, in the wake of Katanji Brown Jackson's

959
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:02,719
Speaker 2: come from to the Supreme Court, it's just nice to

960
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:07,359
Speaker 2: see that the the intention of like appointing more women

961
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 2: of color to these judge ships, judge ships. I said

962
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 2: that yesterday to an attorney one of her many illustrious friends,

963
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:15,279
Speaker 2: and I was like, does that sound stupid? I don't

964
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:20,920
Speaker 2: know what I'm talking about judges, judge jobs. It's just

965
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 2: great because I think Jessica is definitely an indication that

966
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:27,480
Speaker 2: you know, they're they're moving a little bit more in

967
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 2: the right direction. But I'm excited to celebrate her. And yeah,

968
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 2: that's that's the boost. Is she is she? No, she's

969
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:42,239
Speaker 2: forty something, wow, yeah, but still young girl. Yeah. I

970
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 2: was talking to when she used to work for the

971
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:47,279
Speaker 2: Attorney General Latish. Oh sorry, I almost said Tish, like

972
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 2: I know her personally, I don't Jessica calls her Tish,

973
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 2: so Latitia James anyway, and uh, one of her former

974
00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:59,200
Speaker 2: colleagues who's there works for like a very fancy law firm,

975
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:02,479
Speaker 2: was telling me about how Jessica is probably the first

976
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 2: judge to have an after party because a lot of

977
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 2: them are just so old and crustal. But we don't

978
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 2: have a time, got the babysitter coming. Yeah, So I'm

979
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:16,480
Speaker 2: just yeah, I'm really really excited. And I just am like,

980
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 2: shout out to me for rolling my window down in

981
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:22,439
Speaker 2: the daycare parking lot and being like black lady, Hi,

982
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:24,200
Speaker 2: let's be friends.

983
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:26,279
Speaker 1: I love that.

984
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:28,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, that's not awesome.

985
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 1: Well, we congratulate you and salute you, misjudge Jessica.

986
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 2: Yes, the honorable honorable honorable Jessica. Do you get a judge?

987
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:39,480
Speaker 2: I don't know what to get her? Tip? Do you

988
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:40,160
Speaker 2: have any ideas?

989
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:41,799
Speaker 1: I gavel? I don't know.

990
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 2: I was so dorky. I was like, can you show

991
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 2: me your robes? And she showed me that the website.

992
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:48,759
Speaker 1: Where I know that is.

993
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:51,759
Speaker 2: I was like, are you gonna doily? Like RBG? Are

994
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:54,839
Speaker 2: we doing a doily? She's like, Mandy, I mean I

995
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:57,319
Speaker 2: texted her about I shouldn't be talking about this. I

996
00:46:57,360 --> 00:46:59,400
Speaker 2: text her things and I'm like, you probably shouldn't answer that. Nevermind,

997
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 2: I don't know what just it. Don't say anything. Let's

998
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:05,160
Speaker 2: talk about nothing something else, like shit. I don't know

999
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 2: how to be a judge's friend, but I do know

1000
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:08,440
Speaker 2: how to be a friend.

1001
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 1: Mandy, you are a let's talk about Bridgerton? Are gonna

1002
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:15,800
Speaker 1: talk about Richison?

1003
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:20,920
Speaker 2: She is a Fridgie fan, which is I'm like, yes,

1004
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:23,440
Speaker 2: let me talk about that. I don't know how people

1005
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 2: watch Bridgerton in groups, because I can't. It's a personal experience.

1006
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:28,719
Speaker 1: It is because I mean, I'm not gonna lie. I

1007
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:30,319
Speaker 1: have to rewind. Sometimes I'm like I didn't see that

1008
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:32,400
Speaker 1: again and again and against girl.

1009
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:34,879
Speaker 2: You don't even have you even finished episode four?

1010
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:39,319
Speaker 1: No, I just you know my face excited for you

1011
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 1: when she like ate the cupcake and she like looked

1012
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:44,360
Speaker 1: at her and he was like, I rewinded that, so

1013
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 1: it us.

1014
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:48,319
Speaker 2: I was like, that's just wait a second, you rewhelmed

1015
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:49,160
Speaker 2: that scene.

1016
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 1: Oh I love I love the subtle scene.

1017
00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:54,919
Speaker 2: So I f you're out how it's spoiled for you.

1018
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 1: Not that she brings the top tons out, but I

1019
00:47:57,360 --> 00:47:58,760
Speaker 1: just yeah.

1020
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:01,719
Speaker 2: But no, but before oh girl, the season episode four,

1021
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:04,279
Speaker 2: Get you a drink, Get you a nice cup of

1022
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:07,520
Speaker 2: tea and a nice cozy blanket, Get that weighted blanket,

1023
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:10,279
Speaker 2: you know, like cozy up and get ready to hit

1024
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:11,160
Speaker 2: that rewind button.

1025
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:20,680
Speaker 1: Sorry, ladies whose kids are watching their cart Okay, Oh

1026
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:21,880
Speaker 1: it's so good.

1027
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:24,399
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be on No No real quick. I want

1028
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 2: to say I'm gonna be onto Black Girls one rose

1029
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:31,359
Speaker 2: to talk about Bridgerton tomorrow, Tiff, if you're free at

1030
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:33,480
Speaker 2: three pm, I feel like you should pull up because

1031
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:35,440
Speaker 2: they are also going to come on Brown Ambition. But

1032
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:38,239
Speaker 2: I literally invited myself on their show, and I was like, yeah,

1033
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:44,000
Speaker 2: Tiffy doesn't care. You should come if I have time. Yeah,

1034
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:45,279
Speaker 2: we'll see, we'll see, all right.

1035
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:48,120
Speaker 1: Be a fan, Yes, we love you. Leave us reviews

1036
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:51,480
Speaker 1: so we can read them next week, next time, and

1037
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:53,399
Speaker 1: please share this episode. You know it was good. Okay,

1038
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 1: don't play yourself, she said, bye,