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Speaker 2: heard it. He's Alex Furman. I'm Andy Furman. Yes, he's

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Speaker 2: of course, uh, we're rolling right now. It's been a while,

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Speaker 2: maybe there's tons of people that don't know you, a

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Speaker 2: little bit about what you do, because you're the athlete

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Speaker 2: on this show right now. I'm the guy that catch

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Speaker 2: stats called newspapers with scores and things like that. But

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Speaker 2: you're the jock because you know a little bit of

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Speaker 2: pride coming out right now. You played football in college

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Speaker 2: as well as high school. You ran track, you wrestled,

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Speaker 2: so you're the athlete. Tell us a little bit more

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Speaker 2: about yourself here.

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Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, so I've always been an athlete, and

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Speaker 4: I think it really just started when I was a

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Speaker 3: Backyard baseball, backyard football.

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Speaker 4: I kind of developed the sense of competitiveness that you

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Speaker 4: know all athletes have, and kind of went into middle school,

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Speaker 4: high school, all the way up to my collegiate level

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Speaker 4: where I was playing college football. And you know that

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Speaker 4: it's that that drive is still there now now I

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Speaker 4: have nine month old daughter, and it shifted, right, You

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Speaker 4: know that competitiveness is now being the best father I

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Speaker 2: You know, instead, I'm still trying. I'm still trying.

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Speaker 3: You're doing a really good job.

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Speaker 2: Back, You're doing a really good job. But yes, you

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Speaker 2: know a question I've never asked you before we get

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Speaker 2: into the meeting, potatoes, what would make you want to

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Speaker 3: I never had that desire.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 2: I went to the games. I wrote about them. I

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Speaker 2: I went to the guy to the gym class in

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Speaker 4: I think there's two types of people, right, I mean,

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Speaker 2: So maybe you're a numbers guy.

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Speaker 4: Do you like tracking the numbers, writing down the numbers

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Speaker 4: and then writing the stories. But I was like getting

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Speaker 2: Trying to make weight. I mean, that's the craziest thing

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Speaker 3: Terrible? It's absolutely terrible. Oh yeah, no, it's terrible.

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Speaker 4: You're skipping meals you don't eat, you know, Friday or Saturday. Uh,

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Speaker 4: I want to change a thing. The only thing I

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Speaker 4: golfed golf. Yeah, I'm terrible golfer. I'm a terrible golfer now,

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Speaker 2: It was easy. That's been a lot of fun. Let's

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Speaker 2: Last year they made the national semi finals. All right,

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Speaker 2: He'll be doing that for six years. All right, Now

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's chaos. I would think it's chaos when

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Speaker 2: Really, yeah, because half the squad saying it wasn't right,

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Speaker 4: You know, I think at the end of the day, here, Dad,

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Speaker 4: think it was a culmination of a couple things, Dad,

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Speaker 4: I think there was controversy even within the organization. I

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Speaker 4: That's the reason why they're losing to teams like Northwestern

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Speaker 2: Well, look, I would say this Albert bridfrom Sports Illustrated

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's that's bad. Okay, couldn't win the big games.

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Speaker 2: They were four and twenty win against top ten teams

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Speaker 3: That's the problem. Fans go crazy.

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Speaker 2: And I think fans have a lot to say believe

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Speaker 3: He'd rubbed you the wrong way.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 2: They didn't say it back then, but they're saying and

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Speaker 4: Yeah, now we have to remember that, like twelve years ago,

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Speaker 4: where was Penn State. Twelve years ago, they were in

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Speaker 4: They got Franklin in and he turned the season, or

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Speaker 4: So I think I think it was a little premature

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Speaker 3: And I hate it when organizations fire coaches midseason.

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Speaker 4: I agree, because it does absolutely nothing for the team

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Speaker 2: Maybe, But more than that, you know, it creates chaos

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Speaker 2: because most of those kids came to that school not

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Speaker 2: to play for James Franklin. Now it puts the question

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Speaker 2: do I want to stay here? They got the portal,

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Speaker 2: So I think it causes chaos, although with the portal,

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Speaker 2: roster has changed anyway. But Penn State yesterday after they

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Speaker 2: now was three and four but alling four in the

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Speaker 2: think to prepare to do a season in college football,

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Speaker 2: you have to play some meat early on. Yeah, and

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Speaker 2: when I saw their schedule and they played Villanova, really

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying, you know, the next snap I taken

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Speaker 2: college and me, my first I could play for Villanova.

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Speaker 2: Really yeah, I mean you've seen I'm not that bad.

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Speaker 2: I got good hands.

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Speaker 4: The first three games of their season wasn't really meat

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Speaker 4: and potato games. They played Villanova, they played Nevada, I

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Speaker 4: think the first game, and there were blowout wins, and

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Speaker 4: it's kind of solidified. Sure, maybe they really are the

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Speaker 2: Of the year.

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Speaker 4: But to your point, they didn't really play any teams

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Speaker 4: And you know when when push came to shows, they

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Speaker 2: I mean, honestly, he came to Indiana, brought a lot

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Speaker 4: I really don't see that now. I might have to

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Speaker 2: I absolutely love it. But the biggest story yesterday and

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Speaker 4: And I say I'd say this every week. Don't ever

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Speaker 2: Now, well, I think it's a big time.

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Speaker 3: I still say the SEC is probably the strongest conference.

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Speaker 2: Okay, it might be the most competitive, but it's not

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Speaker 3: Okay, all right, fine, the most competitive.

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Speaker 4: But regardless whatever team you're playing in the SEC, they're

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Speaker 4: And it doesn't matter if you're Florida, if you're Vanderbilt,

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Speaker 3: That team's gonna show up and play.

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Speaker 4: And a coach like Brian Kelly, you have to prepare

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Speaker 2: I think there comes a time and everybody's life, no

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Speaker 2: You go through the motions and you're not hungry anymore.

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Speaker 2: You know, you get up in the morning, you just

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Speaker 3: Look, we got to keep this guy. We got to

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Speaker 2: Yesterday against LSU, Vanderbilt had the offensive wall thirteen minutes

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Speaker 4: Right and you're talking about Brian Kelly being on a

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Speaker 4: good for him. Brian Kelly is on the hot seat,

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Speaker 2: And I'll say this, the fact that James Franklin got fired,

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Speaker 3: It could happen to me.

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Speaker 4: It could happen to anybody, no doubt. I mean, right

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Speaker 3: It's all about expectations, it really is.

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Speaker 2: That's what it is. I mean, and we've seen that.

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Speaker 2: I think it's about the coaching. I think coaching makes

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Speaker 2: I don't think there's much of a difference. And you

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Speaker 2: I believe that now. I believe that too. I think

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Speaker 4: Coaches are there to build culture for the team, No doubt,

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Speaker 4: So the coaches are important, but certainly the athletes too

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Speaker 2: That okay, So it's about having the checkbook to sign

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 2: Can you coach him? And I think that's a difficult situation. No,

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Speaker 3: That doesn't happen anymore much. It doesn't, Okay.

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Speaker 2: He's getting heat and stories about Jordan Hudson, his girlfriend

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's just hot topic, it's just clickbait.

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Speaker 4: I think it's it's just another classic example of putting

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Speaker 4: all your eggs in one basket, and in this case

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Speaker 4: the hands of the great mind of producing coach. They

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Speaker 4: expect him to make magic over there at North Carolina.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 3: And it's a joke.

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Speaker 4: I think it's an absolute joke. We're seeing the same

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Speaker 4: thing with the Titans and cam Ward. But you know,

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Speaker 4: that's a different topic. What I'm saying that is that

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Speaker 4: I hate it when when people and programs think that

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Speaker 4: they can hire on this one individual and they can

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Speaker 4: turn the tides of this entire program within less than

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Speaker 4: six months. India but Indiana did it, doesn't it. That's

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Speaker 4: that's a one off situation. We call that an outlier

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Speaker 4: in the world. The statistics, Dad, In a normal world,

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Speaker 4: it takes two to three years to build a fundamental program,

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Speaker 4: to build with culture, to build with I agree with you.

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Speaker 4: And the fact that they think that happens overnight is complete.

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Speaker 4: It's a complete joke, Dad.

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Speaker 2: But the fans think it's gonna happen overnight. The day

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Speaker 2: they hired Bill Belichick, they said, here we go, We're

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Speaker 2: gonna win.

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Speaker 7: And I was.

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Speaker 3: I bought in.

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Speaker 2: I thought they'd win seven or eight games this year.

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Speaker 2: I don't think it's gonna happen right now. And now

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Speaker 2: he's got to defend himself about his exit strategy. I mean,

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Speaker 2: he's saying it's false, he's not gonna leave. I don't

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Speaker 2: think he's gonna leave. I think he's he wants to

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Speaker 2: really finish the job over there and get it done

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Speaker 2: and turn it around again. I think there's a lot

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Speaker 2: of media people that are taking pot shots at Bill

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Speaker 2: Belichick because the way Bill Belichick treated the media when

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Speaker 2: he was in the National Football League coach of the

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Speaker 2: PAIP Don't you think.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, No, I think that, but you know, he just

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Speaker 3: has so much light on him right now. It's tough.

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Speaker 4: I'm sure it's tough for him. But you know, Bill,

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Speaker 4: he entered the program at the beginning of the year

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Speaker 4: with so much media hype already. But there's seventy new

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Speaker 4: players in the transfer portal that he was able to

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Speaker 4: pick up. Not everybody wanted to see, you know, everyone

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Speaker 4: wanted to see the team turn around immediately to a

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Speaker 4: championship caliber team. But I just don't think that's simply

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Speaker 4: a possible, Dad, And I think what he needs to

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Speaker 4: do is just keep his head down and just keep

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Speaker 4: on coaching the way that he's going to be coaching,

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Speaker 4: you know, try to produce a win. There's a lot

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Speaker 4: of things that I think it is a little bit

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Speaker 4: out of control. The fumbles on the field, like the

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Speaker 4: other game, right you can't you have to coach against that.

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Speaker 2: But what is he going to do.

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Speaker 3: He's not the player out there on the field, you know,

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Speaker 3: throwing the ball or fumbling the ball. I'm concerned about this.

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Speaker 2: People talk about the term legacy, they say, well, what's

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Speaker 2: Bill Belichick's legacy gonna be? Wait a second, I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: tell you right now, you know, for those people who

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Speaker 2: talk about legacy, I'll tell you what it is.

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Speaker 3: He's the greatest coach ever to coach in the National

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Speaker 3: FOOTBA League.

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Speaker 2: That's his legacy, all right, No, I absolutely believe it

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Speaker 2: at that. We'll leave it at that. Okay, he's Alex Firman.

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Speaker 2: He's still moving, all right. One coach is really feeling

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Speaker 2: a question for you. Yesterday Texas Tech lost. They lost

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Speaker 2: to Arizona State twenty six, twenty two. However, this little

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Speaker 2: controversy there was Texas Tech they say could face a

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Speaker 2: six figure fine and in game penalty from the Big

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Speaker 2: Twelve Conference if fans keep on tossing tortillas on the

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Speaker 2: on the field.

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Speaker 3: Have you heard about that tortilla? What is that tortilla tossing?

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Speaker 4: Yes, I actually had to do some research into this one, Dad,

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Speaker 4: and it seems to be a tradition over there at

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Speaker 4: Texas Texa throw tortilla shells onto the field.

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Speaker 3: Now get this last.

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Speaker 4: Both Texas Tech and Kansas where fire after Texas wins

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Speaker 4: over the Jayhawks. But even before the twenty five Seeds

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Speaker 4: and members of the Big Twelve Conference did a fifteen

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Speaker 4: to one vote to strengthen the conference's policy on throwing

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Speaker 4: objects onto the field. Now, this new policy states that

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Speaker 4: teams receives a warning for the first two violations of

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Speaker 4: throwing stuff onto the field, and then after that.

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Speaker 3: It's fifteen yard personal penalties after that.

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Speaker 2: And I guess if you ever done that, throw totilla?

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Speaker 4: Oh gosh, no, okay, now, why would I have a

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Speaker 4: tortilla out of the football team.

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Speaker 2: But it's a lot better than what they did in

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Speaker 2: the WNBA, what they were throwing on the court. I

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Speaker 2: don't want to go down that road.

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Speaker 4: But you know, this isn't the first time, Dad, that

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Speaker 4: we know, we've seen conferences kind of penalized schools for

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Speaker 4: what the fans doing, or even during or after the game.

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Speaker 4: You have to remember, I think it was last year

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Speaker 4: in the SEC Conference when Vanderbilt beat Arkansas and they

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Speaker 4: ripped down the goal post and maybe Alabama they ripped

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Speaker 4: down the goal post and they carried it through the

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Speaker 4: streets of Nashville and dumped it in the river, right,

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Speaker 4: you know, So it's it's.

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Speaker 2: Not the first time we're seeing students do these crazy things.

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Speaker 2: Alcohol does strange things. Oh yeah, did you even know that?

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Speaker 7: All?

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Speaker 2: Right, let's talk about a coach right now who knew

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Speaker 2: he could predict the future. I'll talk about Mike tom And,

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Speaker 2: the coach of the Pittsburgh Steelers. He knew, I guess

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Speaker 2: what the outcome was going to be. Thursday night, his

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Speaker 2: game against the Cincinnti Bengals in Cincinnati, Gouse. Earlier in

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Speaker 2: the week, he was questioning why the Cleveland Browns would

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Speaker 2: trade their quarterback who started an opening day Joe Flacco,

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Speaker 2: to the Cincinnti Bengals. Coach tell us about that a

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Speaker 2: little bit old.

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Speaker 6: Mike, you know, to be honest, it was shocking to me.

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Speaker 6: Andrew Berry must be a lot smarter than me or us,

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Speaker 6: because it doesn't make sense to me to trade a

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Speaker 6: quarterback that you think enough of to make your opening

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Speaker 6: day starter to a division opponent that's hurting in that area.

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Speaker 6: But that's just my personal feeling.

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Speaker 2: He knew.

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Speaker 3: I guess he knew.

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Speaker 2: I guess he was afraid of face Joe Flacco. I

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Speaker 2: mean there was, you know, Mike Tomlin there and Flacco

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Speaker 2: was super. Bengals win the game thirty three thirty one

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Speaker 2: and Flacco was thirty one for forty seven, three hundred

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Speaker 2: and forty two yards to three touchdowns. I mean, here's

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Speaker 2: a guy that basically came into town a week ago Tuesday,

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Speaker 2: and like he's playing like he's been there for years.

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Speaker 2: It's great, but he's got eighteen years under his belt. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: he does have eighteen years underneath his belt, and I

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Speaker 2: kind of forgot that. I mean, he's a Super Bowl

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Speaker 2: winning quarterback MVP.

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Speaker 4: But it's kind of funny that, you know, with Mike Tomlin,

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Speaker 4: maybe he was just asked about it, but why would

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Speaker 4: he care? Why would he care what the what the

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Speaker 4: Browns are doing. He just needs to be focusing on

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Speaker 4: the Steelers and not listen to the other noise that's

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Speaker 4: going around. And maybe he has his own thoughts.

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Speaker 2: Who the heck cares?

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Speaker 7: Dad?

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Speaker 3: Who the heck cares? I agree with you, But in

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Speaker 3: his way.

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Speaker 4: When he lost Thursday night against the quarterback that he

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Speaker 4: was talking some smack about.

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Speaker 2: When I didn't go to the game, but I watched

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Speaker 2: it on TV and Mike tom when they had the

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Speaker 2: camera on and he looked like he was just staring

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Speaker 2: at the space. I mean, you look shell shocked. He did,

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Speaker 2: and I would be shell shocked too, But the way

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Speaker 2: that they ran over him. And of course, obviously what

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Speaker 2: Jamar Chase did it was amazing, but we'll get to

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Speaker 2: that in a second. But strange, not so much what

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Speaker 2: he said, the fact that Mike Tomlin never ever comments

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Speaker 2: about opposing teams never. So it was a first it

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Speaker 2: was a first film. But what about Jamar Chase? Could

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Speaker 2: you say right now that he might be the best

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Speaker 2: receiver in the National Football League? Sixteen passes for one

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Speaker 2: sixty one he was, he was the game.

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Speaker 3: He broke that back.

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Speaker 4: He's certainly up there, and he's carrying the weight of

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Speaker 4: the team and certainly the weight of the team during

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Speaker 4: that win on Thursday night. Sixteen passes for one hundred

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Speaker 4: and sixty sixty one yards.

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Speaker 3: Dad, I love it.

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Speaker 4: And it looked like it seemed like Joe Flacco and

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Speaker 4: Jamar and Chase, Uh, they were just like playing backyard football, right.

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Speaker 4: It seems so effortless. And Flacco has been on the

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Speaker 4: team for only ten days.

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Speaker 3: That's amazing.

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Speaker 2: It's unbelievable. It's unbelievable. Yeah, And people question, why would

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Speaker 2: the Cincinnati Bengals get Joe Flacco when you know there's

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Speaker 2: other quarterbacks out there, Jameis Winston. Perhaps I mean, whatever

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Speaker 2: it may be, they knew, they knew that a he went,

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Speaker 2: he knew the division, be the experience he had and

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Speaker 2: see a guy that started opening day for Cleveland. But

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Speaker 2: more than that, two years ago, Cleveland got him off

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Speaker 2: the couch and he came right in and played. He

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Speaker 2: did the same thing here in Cincinnati. But you know what,

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Speaker 2: there's a story to be told, and you might not

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Speaker 2: know that because you're not old enough. Back in nineteen

658
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 2: seventy two, all right, nineteen seventy two, or Olmarle quarterback

659
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:20,160
Speaker 2: replaced quarterback Bob Greasy for the Miami Dolphins. Who's back

660
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:23,399
Speaker 2: on October the fifteenth, nineteen seventy two. That was in

661
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:26,200
Speaker 2: the fifth game of the season against the San Diego Chargers,

662
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:28,760
Speaker 2: if the Greasy suffered a broken leg. And this is

663
00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:32,880
Speaker 2: what Romarle did for that Dolphin team. Omar was thirty

664
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 2: eight years of the age at the time, so Flacco's

665
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 2: forty okay. He took over, led the Dolphins to victory

666
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 2: in their final eleven regular season games and their first

667
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:43,280
Speaker 2: two playoff games, and it gave the Miami Dolphins that

668
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:46,679
Speaker 2: perfect season in nineteen seventy two. He preserved that perfect season.

669
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:50,280
Speaker 2: So maybe Joe Flacco could lead just get them competitive

670
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:53,280
Speaker 2: enough to get into the playoffs. And maybe when Joe

671
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:56,200
Speaker 2: Burrow could come back in December, and who knows, what

672
00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:59,920
Speaker 2: could happened. Bengals could be dangerous, who could Who knows?

673
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:03,360
Speaker 2: But I think I think we're gonna need a little

674
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:04,119
Speaker 2: bit more lucked than that.

675
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 4: Honestly, I'm still worried about Baltimore and the Ravens when

676
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 4: comes back, When when Lamar comes back, They're they're going

677
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:14,000
Speaker 4: to come in and I think the next couple of games, Dad,

678
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 4: They're gonna have a really good chance of taking ownership

679
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 4: of those games and getting themselves back into the talk

680
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:23,359
Speaker 4: of the visional title. I think I think the Ravens

681
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:26,959
Speaker 4: are still a contender, even I agree where whether at

682
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:29,080
Speaker 4: right now. But they're banged up though, But they're banged up.

683
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,600
Speaker 4: But after this bye week, their healthy players are going

684
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:33,560
Speaker 4: to be coming back. Lamar's gonna be coming back. They're

685
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:37,160
Speaker 4: going to be facing some blow average teams, if you will,

686
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 4: and I think that that's what that's when the tide's

687
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:40,560
Speaker 4: going to turn for them.

688
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 2: I want to go behind the curtain a little bit

689
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 2: with the Cincinnati Bengal team in the game what happened

690
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 2: on Thursday night. Number one, Zach Taylor right now should

691
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:51,480
Speaker 2: take Joe Flacco and like put him in a cage

692
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 2: and let know no one near him. I mean, Joe

693
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:57,600
Speaker 2: Flacco is gonna save Zach Taylor's job because the rumors

694
00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:00,800
Speaker 2: had it that Zach Taylor not have gotten fired, but

695
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:02,880
Speaker 2: he would have got close to it. Yeah, we know,

696
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 2: maybe one foot in the grave. Four game losing Street

697
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:07,479
Speaker 2: didn't make the playoffs the last two years. I mean,

698
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:10,720
Speaker 2: there were some questions out there and now all of

699
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:12,479
Speaker 2: a sudden that took a lot of heat off them.

700
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 2: That's number one. That's one story. The second story is

701
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 2: Jake Browning. Okay, I saw him on the bench right

702
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 2: next to Joe Burrow was there, and of course Joe Flacco.

703
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 2: This was a contract year for Browning. He could have

704
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 2: had it made. He comes in there and plays like

705
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 2: he did two years ago. He gets a big fat contract,

706
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:33,240
Speaker 2: maybe the starting quarterback next year. He's finished, don't you think?

707
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 2: But right now, who's going to pick him up? The

708
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 2: only the only way he'll play is if Joe Flacco

709
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 2: does faulters or gets hurt.

710
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 3: That's it.

711
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, certainly I think this this gives reason for the

712
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:48,000
Speaker 4: Cincinni Bengals to kind of scratch their head about Browning

713
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:51,240
Speaker 4: and just are they going to keep him for the

714
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 4: for the future, and what they're going.

715
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:57,280
Speaker 3: To do about about that q the QB number two spot.

716
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 4: Certainly, he didn't do himself any favor verse when he

717
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 4: was running the ship and running the offense. But who

718
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 4: did to him? He said, it's really not all on

719
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,560
Speaker 4: one guy. I kind of agree with that, you know,

720
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:12,960
Speaker 4: I kind of agree with that. We don't have the

721
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 4: strongest offensive line. Let's be honest here. Thursday he was

722
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:19,760
Speaker 4: only sack twice, But we don't have a very strong

723
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:23,680
Speaker 4: offensive line. Our running game didn't develop until last Thursday's

724
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:27,320
Speaker 4: game either. But that's beside the point. But it's Jake

725
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 4: Browning throwing those interceptions, no doubt. You know, it's Jake

726
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 4: Browning overthrowing or taking those sacks, you know, or throwing

727
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:36,479
Speaker 4: it into the dirt. Right, It's no one else other

728
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 4: than Jake Browning. He's kind of he's too, but he

729
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:41,400
Speaker 4: took ownership. He said it was on him, he did,

730
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 4: but then he started blaming the others. You know, he's saying, well,

731
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 4: it's not all on me.

732
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:48,480
Speaker 2: I gave a lot of credit because offense when they

733
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 2: brought him flakoh, and he got finished. He met with

734
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 2: the media, where the other players are cowards. I don't

735
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 2: talk to him, they run. He faced the media. I

736
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 2: give him credit for that. I give him credit for that.

737
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Speaker 3: All right, Fine, So I still don't have a lot

738
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 3: of finis with this team. I really don't like.

739
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 2: Did Jets play next week in Cincinnati? The Bengals should

740
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 2: win that game. You just don't know, you know what

741
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:08,840
Speaker 2: you don't.

742
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 4: Know, And that's the kind of thing about being a

743
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 4: Cincinnati Bengals fan. You honestly you never know what team

744
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 4: is going to show up on that day. I think

745
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 4: with this win in primetime against the Steelers, a divisional win,

746
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 4: I think it's going to give them a little bit

747
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:24,719
Speaker 4: of momentum, a little bit of win in their sales,

748
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 4: if you will, and hopefully, uh, you know, kind of

749
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 4: shows the team the potential that they can't be. They

750
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 4: can be a very solid, formative team. They just have

751
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 4: to play as a unit and just put all their

752
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 4: ducts in and get or get the ball in Jamar

753
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 4: Chase's hands. You're right, you know, but they they can

754
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 4: play very well, uh, they just have to They just

755
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 4: have to be consistently about it, you know. And that's

756
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:49,959
Speaker 4: that's the thing about the Bengals.

757
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 2: We're talking hot seats right now. I mean, obviously you're

758
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 2: on one. That's okay, But uh, Brian Kelly, we talked about,

759
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 2: we talked that about maybe Mike McDaniel, coach of the

760
00:31:57,560 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 2: dolphins's in the hot seat. What about the coach of

761
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 2: the Arizona the Cardinals that we got to, Jonathan Gannon.

762
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 2: Cardinals are hosting the Packers today. Packers are three one

763
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 2: to one and the Cardinals are two and four. But

764
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 2: this this clown, Jonathan Gannon, I mean, he went four

765
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:11,239
Speaker 2: and thirteen, four and thirteen and twenty twenty three, eight

766
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 2: and nine last year. He had a comment this week.

767
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 2: This really didn't help. It came Wednesday. He was asked

768
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 2: during this press conference about learning to control his emotions

769
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 2: as a coach, and they replied two thousand and seven,

770
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 2: when our quarterback went to jail. He was talking about

771
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 2: Michael Vick. I mean, why would you bring that up.

772
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:30,240
Speaker 2: I mean, these people say things. I mean, you know,

773
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 2: I understand you got ten million things going on in

774
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:34,960
Speaker 2: your head. I get that you're worried. You're worried about

775
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 2: your job. Calm down, he's feeling the heat. He's got

776
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:39,720
Speaker 2: to be feeling the heat. He has to be. Come on.

777
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, I listened to that that and it made no

778
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 4: sense to me, and I don't think it made any

779
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 4: other sense to any person in that conference room. I mean,

780
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 4: going to the Cardinals, it's a poor start to the

781
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 4: twenty five season, after promising to and no start. They've

782
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:58,480
Speaker 4: dropped the last four straight games, right, giving them a

783
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:00,720
Speaker 4: two to four record now and they're at the bottom

784
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 4: of the NFC West right now.

785
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 2: He's gone.

786
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 4: The team has a failure to close out games. Arizona

787
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:10,480
Speaker 4: became in the first team in NFL history to lose

788
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:13,200
Speaker 4: three straight games on walk off scores.

789
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 2: Dad, that's amazing.

790
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:17,959
Speaker 4: That's never happened for And there's so much controversy now

791
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 4: within the Cardinal organization, the sideline controversy. He was fined

792
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 4: one hundred thousand dollars by the team for making contact

793
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 4: with the running backs.

794
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 3: He should have suspending.

795
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 2: He should have been suspended, right, you know, yes, Sissy,

796
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 2: I mean what last week?

797
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 3: What do you think about it? I thought maybe the

798
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 3: player should sue the coach. He was attacked. He headed

799
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 3: the coach had him right.

800
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's as a player, you kind of stop

801
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 4: and think, you know, it's tough to play for.

802
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 2: A coach like that. That no doubt about that, no doubt.

803
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 2: Kind of like working with you.

804
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 3: Tough, tough all right.

805
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 2: And by the way, with the iHeart Radio Web, you

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810
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Speaker 2: day all day and be sure to select Fox Sports

811
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 2: Radio as one of your presets in the iHeart apps

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00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:07,760
Speaker 2: so it will always pop up at the top of

813
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 2: your screen. All right, he's got big shoes to fill,

814
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 2: you really do. It's ask Alex this time and it's next,

815
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:15,759
Speaker 2: all right, I asked Gallas. Coming right up, Alex is

816
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 2: Alex Furman sitting there for Bucky Brooks. I'm Andy Ferman

817
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:19,960
Speaker 2: with a Life of the Fox Sports Radio studios. And

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00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 2: before we go to ask Gallus, we gotta call it.

819
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:25,239
Speaker 2: David in Kansas wants to talk to Alex on Fox

820
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Speaker 2: Sports Radio.

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00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:30,840
Speaker 11: Hello David him my name is David, I live in Kansas.

822
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:31,759
Speaker 3: I said that.

823
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:38,719
Speaker 11: Yeah, well, I was born in nineteen forty three, so

824
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:41,879
Speaker 11: I got to hear all about baseball before it even

825
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,880
Speaker 11: hit the television, and when it did, I had some

826
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:50,920
Speaker 11: real favorites like Walter Austin, Casey Steingle, Yogi Verra, Mickey

827
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 11: Now and of course really me was the favorite of us.

828
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:57,919
Speaker 11: But anyway, I just wanted to compliment you two guys

829
00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 11: on this wonderful show it is. It is absolutely sadulous

830
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 11: to hear you, and I can't tell you how much

831
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:11,080
Speaker 11: I appreciate you're both. You're both very knowledgeable about what

832
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:14,719
Speaker 11: you know and what you speak, and so I just

833
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 11: I just hope you I hope you can talk to

834
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 11: the higher ups and have them I already told your

835
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:23,399
Speaker 11: producers that you guys need to make this a regular.

836
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:25,239
Speaker 2: Thing, and you thank you.

837
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 11: And I just have one criticism, however, since I was

838
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:35,239
Speaker 11: born and raised in South Dakota, I think you guys

839
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 11: talk funny.

840
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:39,839
Speaker 2: Thank you. I've been told that before. All Right, another

841
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:48,840
Speaker 2: satisfied custom Another all right, Bray, let's go, we got

842
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:49,480
Speaker 2: to ask gas.

843
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:50,800
Speaker 3: Let's hit it all righty.

844
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 8: So this is from Chris on Twitter as a Cincinnati

845
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:57,760
Speaker 8: Pro sports fan, did Andy pass on the Cincinnati fandom

846
00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 8: misery to you? And and then he asked me a

847
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 8: question about my fandom But we don't need to talk

848
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:05,719
Speaker 8: about that. But yeah, so since Andy pro sports, did

849
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:06,920
Speaker 8: Andy pass that on to you?

850
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 3: Alex? Yeah, I mean he did as a kid.

851
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, Dad, Remember as a kid, he always took me

852
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 4: to the games, to the baseball games, to the football games,

853
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:18,239
Speaker 4: even to a lot of college games too. So, you know,

854
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 4: at the very beginning of my life, I was introduced

855
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:24,320
Speaker 4: to like you see sports, you see basketball, you see football.

856
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:26,320
Speaker 2: We go down the Nippers stadium one game, it was

857
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:27,319
Speaker 2: told Toledo one time.

858
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:28,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, we were right there in the end zone.

859
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:29,359
Speaker 2: It was great.

860
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 7: Yeah.

861
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 4: So at the very beginning, Dad introduced me to Cincinnati sports.

862
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:36,319
Speaker 4: And honestly, I've been heartbroken ever since.

863
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 2: All Right, I got a question. Do you have another question?

864
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 3: Do you have one for him?

865
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:41,239
Speaker 4: No?

866
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 2: Yes?

867
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:43,719
Speaker 8: Oh yeah, I said, if you had to compare your

868
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 8: dad to like a sports figure, Dad, between like LeVar Ball,

869
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:50,440
Speaker 8: Dion Sanders, marv Renovich, who would he resemble the closest

870
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Speaker 8: to Oh.

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00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:52,920
Speaker 2: My word, you know, I'll be honest with you. I

872
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:55,239
Speaker 2: have no idea who Marvi is. But I'll have to

873
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:57,879
Speaker 2: go with Dion Sanders, hey for USC in nineteen born

874
00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 2: in nineteen thirty nine. I think that's where way before

875
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:04,799
Speaker 2: I was no Deon Sanders. He seems they always cared

876
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:06,720
Speaker 2: about his boys. And you know my dad is no different.

877
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 2: He's always cared about my brother and I.

878
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 4: But you know, maybe Dad will get you like a

879
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:12,759
Speaker 4: cowboy hat, get you some Deone Sanders sunglasses like that.

880
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:13,839
Speaker 3: I think you look good?

881
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:15,279
Speaker 2: You think? Yeah? All right?

882
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:16,800
Speaker 3: I got a question for you.

883
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 2: The ANC DOUBA that, considering the approval of its student

884
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:23,239
Speaker 2: athletes now legally gambling on pro sports now they could

885
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 2: use that nil money to play spits. What are your

886
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:25,800
Speaker 2: thoughts about that?

887
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 5: No?

888
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 3: Absolutely not. First off, how are they going to enforce it?

889
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 4: How are they going to going to corrack every single

890
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:34,880
Speaker 4: player and see if they're betting on professional or or

891
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:35,840
Speaker 4: collegiate sports.

892
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 3: No, absolutely not.

893
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:39,439
Speaker 4: And I think it ruins the integrity of the game,

894
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:41,800
Speaker 4: into integrity of competition.

895
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:42,279
Speaker 1: Now.

896
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 3: I love what betting has done for sports dat I

897
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 3: really do.

898
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 4: It's why because it's heightened the sports, the coverage, the media, everything,

899
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 4: It's just elevated.

900
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 3: It creates why.

901
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 2: It creates a lot of questions, a lot of shops

902
00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 2: passing the end zone. This didn't I know, I know exactly,

903
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:00,719
Speaker 2: and it.

904
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:02,360
Speaker 4: Does he have something to do with it, right, But

905
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:06,879
Speaker 4: to introduce it back down to the college kids, college athletes. Man,

906
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:09,239
Speaker 4: that's the slippery slope that I don't want to go down.

907
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:11,359
Speaker 4: Bring you got another question I see for him?

908
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 3: Yes?

909
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:14,399
Speaker 8: Which team has caused you more pain over the years?

910
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:15,920
Speaker 8: The Bengals or the Reds?

911
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:19,800
Speaker 4: You know, the Bengals have caused me more pain. But

912
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:23,280
Speaker 4: at least it's quick, in dramatic, it's like getting dumped

913
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 4: to be a text dad. But the Reds, honestly, it's slow.

914
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 4: It's lingering, it's heartbreaking. It's like watching your house plants

915
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:33,279
Speaker 4: die because of the hundred and sixty two games.

916
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 1: Slow death.

917
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 2: I tried. I tried to keep him alife. Right, Oh man,

918
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 2: all right, here's one. The colleges have weekly polls in football.

919
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 2: We love it, right, creates great fat of great interest,

920
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:46,719
Speaker 2: great conversation. Okay, should the NFL move to announce weekly

921
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 2: polls for their teams? Although a match up between the

922
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:51,759
Speaker 2: Jets and the Saints could be embarrassing to say what

923
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:52,759
Speaker 2: they're ranked in the poll.

924
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:55,320
Speaker 4: But it wouldn't be a bad idea, right, Yeah, I

925
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:57,239
Speaker 4: think it's a good idea. I think it's fun. I

926
00:38:57,280 --> 00:39:03,440
Speaker 4: think it increases conversation, and uh, it increases coverage, and

927
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:04,400
Speaker 4: I'm down for it.

928
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:05,239
Speaker 2: Why not, Dad?

929
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:05,719
Speaker 10: Why not?

930
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:06,400
Speaker 2: All right?

931
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:06,920
Speaker 9: Uh?

932
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 3: Bree, one last one?

933
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:10,319
Speaker 8: If you could switch your fandom and become a fan

934
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 8: of any other team, who would you switch over to?

935
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:13,879
Speaker 7: And why?

936
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 3: I probably jumped ship to? Uh maybe the Kansas City Chiefs.

937
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:19,439
Speaker 2: Listen.

938
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:22,359
Speaker 4: Not because I'm chasing rings like a bandwagon or at

939
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:25,840
Speaker 4: the jewelie store swift. No, because they somehow have cracked

940
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 4: the coat of being consistently exciting without destroying their fan

941
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:32,879
Speaker 4: base every Sunday, Dad, Okay, Yeah. And plus the fans

942
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:35,720
Speaker 4: they get to enjoy postseason football without needing therapy afterwards.

943
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 3: So plush.

944
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:40,759
Speaker 2: That always sounds nice and fun. Calm down, you're still

945
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:42,919
Speaker 2: on the hot seat. Calm down, all right? Our number

946
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 2: one of the books he's Alex from and he's Info

947
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 2: Bucket Brooks. I'm ay for And by the way, to

948
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 2: be number one, to be number one anywhere, but to

949
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:51,920
Speaker 2: be number one is to be cursed. We'll talk about

950
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 2: that and so much more. We're right here on Fox

951
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 2: Football Sunday on Fox Sports Radio coming up.

952
00:39:57,200 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 1: Next, do listen, No Fox, Oh not for this.

953
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 2: I'm getting sick. I'm getting norse. I'm losing my edge

954
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 2: when I hear this. All right, Alex Ferman in for

955
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:09,920
Speaker 2: Bucket Brooks. I'm in the firmanent went broadcasting live from

956
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:13,279
Speaker 2: the Fox Sports Radio studios. And before we get to Josh,

957
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 2: Josh is in New York. He's gonna talk to us

958
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 2: for a second.

959
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 7: Why.

960
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 3: I don't know.

961
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 2: He's got gonna life, gotta do something better than wanting

962
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 2: to talk to us. But that's okay, we appreciate it.

963
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:22,359
Speaker 2: We got to give a shout up because I heard

964
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 2: Steve de Sega doing the sports updates at the top

965
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 2: of the hour and he didn't mention the University of

966
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 2: Cincinnati bear cast going undefeated in the Big twelve to

967
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:33,839
Speaker 2: four and oh six and one overall, spanking Oklahoma State

968
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:35,960
Speaker 2: last night forty nine seventeen. You got to give them

969
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:38,759
Speaker 2: a shout out. They really do because coach Satafield that

970
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:40,759
Speaker 2: you see kind of on the hot seat of the

971
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 2: warm sea, not the hot warm turning it around. I'm

972
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 2: happy for them, happy for those kids. I really am yeah, No,

973
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:48,279
Speaker 2: certainly happy with them. I'm a five to one right now,

974
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:51,359
Speaker 2: six and one, six and one right now. And uh,

975
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:55,280
Speaker 2: I don't know, do you see them as a conference

976
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:58,960
Speaker 2: champion or well, Texas Tech lost yesterday, They're undefeated in

977
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:01,800
Speaker 2: the conference. They got a show. They gotta stay believing themselves.

978
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 4: They're in the talks, right, the talks, which is more

979
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:06,480
Speaker 4: than what we can ever ask for, you know, out

980
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:08,319
Speaker 4: of the you see rank twenty four.

981
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:09,800
Speaker 2: Really happy. You know, if you would have told me

982
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:13,319
Speaker 2: years ago that you see would be a playing Oklahoma State,

983
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 2: be beating Oklahoma State two years ago, they were listening

984
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:18,960
Speaker 2: by thirty something, right, I mean this, this is great

985
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 2: the way they turned it around. And I'm happy, I

986
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:22,360
Speaker 2: really yeah, And I like this is kind of.

987
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:25,799
Speaker 4: The reason why I like schools like Cincinnati hopping up

988
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:28,879
Speaker 4: into these bigger conferences, right, because it increases the level

989
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 4: of play for the interests and interest for the fans,

990
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:33,719
Speaker 4: but it increases the level of play for the for

991
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:34,400
Speaker 4: the program.

992
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 3: Right, it's going to recruit better players.

993
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 2: And for the city. It's good for the city, no

994
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:42,239
Speaker 2: doubt about that. Josh is in the city, the big city,

995
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:45,239
Speaker 2: the Big Apple. Josh here on Fox Sports Sunday, Fox

996
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:48,440
Speaker 2: Sports Football, Fox Sports Radio, all of them with Alex Furman.

997
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 7: I'm actually in the place where there is more apples

998
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 7: than the Big Apple. I'm just north of in Westchester County,

999
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:58,919
Speaker 7: New York, and I just want to say something before

1000
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 7: I get to the meet be tato is college football,

1001
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:04,320
Speaker 7: professional football. I'm a form of a historian. I just

1002
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:07,360
Speaker 7: like to tell everybody that there is an equivalent to

1003
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:12,319
Speaker 7: what Otani did. Yesterday nineteen seventy one Philadelphia, Philly. Rick

1004
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 7: White pitched a no hitter and smacked two home runs

1005
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 7: in that game. I can't think of having like a

1006
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 7: better game and throwing a no hitter and smacking two

1007
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 7: home runs.

1008
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:24,840
Speaker 2: You know what, You're exactly right. But the point is

1009
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 2: O'shanni was on a bigger stage. That was the key

1010
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 2: playing for the Dodgers. I think that's the difference.

1011
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 7: Well, you gotta remember Rick, why is only bats like

1012
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 7: once a week and I don't want to get to

1013
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:40,759
Speaker 7: watch it do But that was a great mom and

1014
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:43,640
Speaker 7: also that helped the Phillies win the World Series because

1015
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 7: that went to They traded Rick wise. Maybe they thought

1016
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 7: he could hit a lot of home runs and throw

1017
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:51,319
Speaker 7: no hitters and to Steve Calton. The rest is history there.

1018
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 7: And Pete Rows helped out too with that team. You know,

1019
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:58,320
Speaker 7: some you look at college football and some of these teams,

1020
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 7: I think the pool is a big thing because you

1021
00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 7: can rebuild on the fly. Now, a lot of these

1022
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 7: kids that the coach looks out of the wrong way.

1023
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 7: He's in the portal and he's on his way to Michigan,

1024
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:12,359
Speaker 7: Ohio State, Alabama. I mean, isn't like years ago. Uh,

1025
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:14,279
Speaker 7: when I was very young, I was like seven eight

1026
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:16,880
Speaker 7: years old, I was watching college football. I remember the

1027
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 7: USC used to win the title. Like every year, these

1028
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:23,480
Speaker 7: guys whould go to USC. They'd walk around the campus

1029
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:26,640
Speaker 7: for two years. They have seventy credits. No no teacher

1030
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:29,879
Speaker 7: ever couldn't identify him in you know, and ID looked

1031
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 7: out ra.

1032
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:33,360
Speaker 2: You know why, I'll tell you why. Because USC was

1033
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 2: doing the nil deal before the nil became legal. They

1034
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:38,719
Speaker 2: were paying those players under the table, right, that's what

1035
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:40,759
Speaker 2: they were doing. Right.

1036
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 7: The old joke is why didn't Luel send to go

1037
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 7: to the APA because the UCLA was going to paying

1038
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:50,359
Speaker 7: them off? C LA the thing, you know, And it's

1039
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 7: funny too, and you see the USC was winning college

1040
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:59,360
Speaker 7: baseball championships too. They're you know, coach day, listen to

1041
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 7: the US see. I mean, like I said, you walk

1042
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:04,720
Speaker 7: around that campus graduating four years and not one teacher

1043
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:06,759
Speaker 7: to put you pick you out in the line up there.

1044
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:08,759
Speaker 4: Listen.

1045
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:11,000
Speaker 7: They had some great running backs come out of the USC,

1046
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:15,239
Speaker 7: right and you know we can name right off the

1047
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:18,520
Speaker 7: top of our hats there. But listen, the portal has

1048
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 7: a lot to do with it. The play is getting

1049
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 7: paid now for their advertisements and all that other stuff.

1050
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:27,880
Speaker 7: And I think it's actually better for professional football that

1051
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 7: a kid who's who should be starting is lingering on

1052
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 7: the bench does the coach doesn't have the brains to

1053
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:36,759
Speaker 7: put them in, or they guarantee playing time to some

1054
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 7: other kids. So the kid leaves, he goes to another

1055
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 7: big time college and he's playing, and we're getting to

1056
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 7: see more better players play that way.

1057
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 3: I hear what you're saying.

1058
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 2: I'm going to let your roll and I'll leave you

1059
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:48,239
Speaker 2: with this, and I thank you for the call. The

1060
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 2: portal is a great thing, but if you don't have

1061
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 2: the check with the pay the kid that's coming from

1062
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:53,840
Speaker 2: the portal, he's not going to be at your school.

1063
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:55,759
Speaker 2: I'm not so certain, Alex. Can you tell me if

1064
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:58,359
Speaker 2: I'm right on that or wrong on this one. Say

1065
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 2: a kid as Josh men your kids the bench, he's

1066
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 2: not playing.

1067
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:01,760
Speaker 3: What's going on other school.

1068
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:03,840
Speaker 2: He's in the portal. But if that school is not

1069
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:06,880
Speaker 2: going to pay him as as School A and School

1070
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:08,360
Speaker 2: B is gonna pay him more and he may not

1071
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:10,360
Speaker 2: play as much or at all, he's gonna go to

1072
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 2: school beef.

1073
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:12,759
Speaker 3: With a bigger check, don't you think? Yeah he will.

1074
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:15,839
Speaker 4: But you know some with the portal, it benefits both

1075
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:18,600
Speaker 4: the school and the players. So there's instances where the

1076
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:20,720
Speaker 4: portal's going to benefit the school and benefit the program.

1077
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 2: But there's also instances.

1078
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:25,320
Speaker 4: Where the portal where players will enter the portal and

1079
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:28,279
Speaker 4: they're doing it for themselves. A player will enter it

1080
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 4: into the portal and maybe go down a conference if

1081
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:34,440
Speaker 4: you will, to play strength to play, and they're an

1082
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:37,839
Speaker 4: all star player there, right, And then it gives them

1083
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:41,400
Speaker 4: playing time, it gives them confidence, it builds them experience,

1084
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 4: and then they're in a better position if if they

1085
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:45,799
Speaker 4: had stayed in.

1086
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 3: The other school to maybe go into professional football.

1087
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:49,880
Speaker 10: Right.

1088
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 4: So I think there's there's benefits to portal and certainly

1089
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:57,880
Speaker 4: the talent dad is spread out more evenly.

1090
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 2: In my opinion, we see that because because college football

1091
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:04,400
Speaker 2: right now it's Ohio State, Oregon and maybe Miami and

1092
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:06,399
Speaker 2: Indiana after that, it's wide open.

1093
00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 4: I believe that it really is, and maybe because for

1094
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 4: the portal. It's because for the portal. I mean, look

1095
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:13,720
Speaker 4: at Kim Ward from last year. He went from Washington

1096
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 4: to Miami and they're you know, prior portal. I don't

1097
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 4: know how he would have been able to do that

1098
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:20,960
Speaker 4: or he would have stayed that just a singular school.

1099
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:22,759
Speaker 4: But the fact that Miami was able to get a

1100
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 4: Heisman winning quarterback is because of the portal and how

1101
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:27,440
Speaker 4: he was able to use it.

1102
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:30,600
Speaker 3: To benefit him. Because you got as well. But I'm

1103
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 3: just going to say, and it also benefits the school,

1104
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 3: no doubt.

1105
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:35,759
Speaker 2: I'm glad you mentioned because Brian Callahan was the first

1106
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:37,480
Speaker 2: NFL coach tadd a copy of the home game. He

1107
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:39,480
Speaker 2: got fired, the head coach of the Tennessee Titans got

1108
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:41,359
Speaker 2: the fired. He got fired last week. There's no real

1109
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 2: surprise because there's a connection with first round quarterback drafts

1110
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:48,480
Speaker 2: selections and coaches getting fired and say, well why is that?

1111
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 2: I'll tell you it's easy. Expectations, hope, winning, fan pressure.

1112
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:56,480
Speaker 2: It's a trend. Fans in Tennessee went nuts when they

1113
00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:58,879
Speaker 2: called your guy. Cam Ward is the first draft pick

1114
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:02,239
Speaker 2: last year, Titans one in five when Callahan was fired.

1115
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 2: Let go, okay, here's the stat of the day, all right,

1116
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:06,400
Speaker 2: at the start of the day. And you know this,

1117
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:10,760
Speaker 2: Six of the last eight quarterbacks picked number one, including

1118
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 2: the last four, have seen that coaches fired during their

1119
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:18,399
Speaker 2: rookie season. That is unbelievable. Why is that coaches can't

1120
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:22,239
Speaker 2: handle it? The pressure expectations where they drafted cam Ward,

1121
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 2: fans in Tennessee were ready to buy Super Bowl tickets.

1122
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:25,359
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1123
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:29,799
Speaker 4: Now, I think there are certainly unrest in Tennessee even

1124
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 4: before cam Ward was there. But honestly, we're seeing this

1125
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:35,320
Speaker 4: more and more time over and over. People they expect

1126
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:37,640
Speaker 4: these crazy things when they hire a new coach or

1127
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:40,440
Speaker 4: when they draft a new quarterback for teams like the Titans,

1128
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 4: and every ambulyst will tell you, Dad, it's virtually impossible.

1129
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:47,160
Speaker 4: I've already said in the show, it's virtually impossible for

1130
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 4: them to turn around completely and be a Super Bowl

1131
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:54,799
Speaker 4: contending team. It doesn't exist, d it doesn't happen that way, right,

1132
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:57,800
Speaker 4: The best thing for cam Ward what he needed was

1133
00:47:57,840 --> 00:47:59,800
Speaker 4: to be underneath the coach for at least two to

1134
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:03,319
Speaker 4: three years to develop to be an NFA Green Bay.

1135
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:05,439
Speaker 3: Those are their quarterbacks, and let.

1136
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:08,200
Speaker 4: Him be the quarterback that we know that cam Ward

1137
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:10,439
Speaker 4: can be, and we need to let him have that time.

1138
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:13,560
Speaker 4: But honestly, he also needs the consistency of having the

1139
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:15,400
Speaker 4: same coach, having the same people around him.

1140
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:17,480
Speaker 2: You make a great point, because Super Green Bay did

1141
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:19,680
Speaker 2: with Jordan Love. I mean, all the quarterbacks going back

1142
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:22,319
Speaker 2: to Brett Fahr, I mean, Aaron Rodgers. All those guys

1143
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:24,799
Speaker 2: sat on the sidelines learning the game, and they came

1144
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:27,320
Speaker 2: in and they did well. Okay, then you get a

1145
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 2: guy like Trevor Lawrence. He said, how many offensive coordinators

1146
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:32,400
Speaker 2: and head coaches as he had. I mean, there's a

1147
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:34,880
Speaker 2: problem there. I mean, and you're blaming on the quarterback

1148
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:36,720
Speaker 2: and the fans got crazy, the head coach gets fired.

1149
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:36,959
Speaker 3: Okay.

1150
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:40,160
Speaker 2: Most of these great college quarterbacks aren't cure roles. They're

1151
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:42,360
Speaker 2: not instant cure rolls and we're still waiting. They're not

1152
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:45,200
Speaker 2: game changes, and the coach isn't really a great match

1153
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:48,640
Speaker 2: for them. Here there's another one, Matty Eberflows. Okay, former

1154
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:50,479
Speaker 2: coach of the Bears. He was the first Bears coach

1155
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 2: ever ever to be fired during the season. Okay, the

1156
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:57,440
Speaker 2: Bear selected Caleb Williams number one and twenty twenty four

1157
00:48:57,480 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 2: in the draft. Williams with the NFL's most sat quarterback.

1158
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:02,480
Speaker 2: All right, so he got fired, you know. To me,

1159
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:07,560
Speaker 2: I think the only the only natural I think is

1160
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:10,560
Speaker 2: when the Sincinety Bengals drafted Joe Burrow. Look, they said

1161
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:13,080
Speaker 2: it was a great pick. Any idiot like myself could

1162
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:15,319
Speaker 2: have drafted Joe Burrow. I mean, that was the guy

1163
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:17,879
Speaker 2: to pick. Bengals had the first pick. They picked Joe Burrow.

1164
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow was the guy that got it done. Okay,

1165
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:23,000
Speaker 2: that's that's unusual. Yeah, it really is.

1166
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:26,760
Speaker 4: You know, Ultimately, quarterbacks like cam Ward or Cab Williams,

1167
00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:30,080
Speaker 4: they're the ones really suffering here because they don't have

1168
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:34,160
Speaker 4: a foundation in the NFL. Ultimately, to start from college

1169
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:37,440
Speaker 4: football is completely different than NFL football. The game is

1170
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:40,239
Speaker 4: so much quicker and in the perfect world I said before,

1171
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:42,719
Speaker 4: cam Ward would have developed movie for three years in

1172
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:44,840
Speaker 4: the NFL, right, and then by the third year he

1173
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:48,040
Speaker 4: should be and probably will be under the right leadership,

1174
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 4: under the right coaching, be the prime quarterback that we

1175
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:53,920
Speaker 4: thought that he would be. That he still has the

1176
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:56,680
Speaker 4: potential to beat. But with changes to the GM, to

1177
00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:59,760
Speaker 4: the coaching staff, to the head coaching, you can't expect

1178
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:02,239
Speaker 4: to a starting quarterback who hasn't been in the league

1179
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:04,680
Speaker 4: for less than a year dad to come out and

1180
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 4: start winning games and uh and just be the quarterback

1181
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:08,920
Speaker 4: that we saw the class.

1182
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:13,600
Speaker 2: That's ridiculous. Same situation with Bill Belichick. Don't expect him

1183
00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:15,520
Speaker 2: to come and be a miracle man in North Carolina

1184
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 2: his first year. It doesn't happen overnight. Now, look the

1185
00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:20,759
Speaker 2: cam Waarred situation. He's gonna start from square one now

1186
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 2: because his head coach is gone and Callahan was, quote

1187
00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:26,600
Speaker 2: the former offensive coordinator for the Cincinnati Bengals, the so

1188
00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 2: called offensive genius. He's gone. They're gonna start with new

1189
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:32,080
Speaker 2: and they got an interim coach now who may not

1190
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:33,040
Speaker 2: get the head job, and.

1191
00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:35,200
Speaker 3: They're gonna bring in a new guy again. Yeah, he's

1192
00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:37,160
Speaker 3: starting all over again and again.

1193
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:39,840
Speaker 4: It's I hate when they get rid of coaches in

1194
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:42,279
Speaker 4: the middle of the year because it does nothing for

1195
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:45,480
Speaker 4: the team. It does nothing for the team. Keep the

1196
00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:49,879
Speaker 4: ship going the way it's going. Hopefully they can turn

1197
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:53,480
Speaker 4: it around a little bit. But don't ever get rid

1198
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:55,200
Speaker 4: of a coach question. It doesn't make any sense.

1199
00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:56,959
Speaker 3: As a former player, here's the question.

1200
00:50:57,080 --> 00:50:57,239
Speaker 7: I have.

1201
00:50:57,640 --> 00:50:59,400
Speaker 2: Team is one in four, one and five. When he

1202
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:02,200
Speaker 2: got in Calihan that fired. There's gotta be a segment

1203
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 2: of that team in the locker room that can't stand Callahan.

1204
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:06,920
Speaker 2: You know, players, and you know this, I mean, you

1205
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:09,640
Speaker 2: played the game. Players never take the blame. It's never

1206
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:11,919
Speaker 2: there fall There's is the guy in the locker next

1207
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:14,960
Speaker 2: to you. It's the coaches full it's everybody's fourth except yours.

1208
00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:17,640
Speaker 2: We heard that two of the other day blame this team.

1209
00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:20,279
Speaker 2: We'll get into that later on. So don't you think

1210
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 2: there's a segment of the team in that locker room

1211
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:26,200
Speaker 2: that maybe would play down to see that coach get fired. Perhaps,

1212
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:29,400
Speaker 2: do you think that there's a group of players, I'm

1213
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:32,520
Speaker 2: sure that are happy that Callahan got fired.

1214
00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:34,960
Speaker 4: I'm sure maybe they're happy that he got fired, but

1215
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:40,400
Speaker 4: maybe in the sense that he wasn't. Maybe they just

1216
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:42,439
Speaker 4: thought that they had a different direction for the team,

1217
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:44,600
Speaker 4: that the team could go in a different direction that

1218
00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:46,480
Speaker 4: Callahan wasn't pointing that team in that direction.

1219
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 9: No.

1220
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:48,840
Speaker 2: Here, they weren't winning, That's what they weren't winning.

1221
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:52,160
Speaker 4: And maybe there's things that's going on behind closed doors

1222
00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:55,680
Speaker 4: we don't see certainly. And I've said before the culture.

1223
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:58,040
Speaker 4: One of the coaches job is to set a culture

1224
00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:01,759
Speaker 4: for the for the organization. And maybe Callahan just didn't

1225
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:02,799
Speaker 4: set a winning coach.

1226
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:04,399
Speaker 3: And he's never been a head coach. I think that's

1227
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:04,879
Speaker 3: a big key.

1228
00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:07,200
Speaker 2: I think you don't know how to Ben's start somewhere.

1229
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:07,440
Speaker 5: Well.

1230
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:10,520
Speaker 2: A head coaches at the CEO of the corporation. He

1231
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:13,600
Speaker 2: oversees everything. And sometimes when you're a coordinator, you have

1232
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:15,799
Speaker 2: your hands on. You can't be a hands on kind

1233
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:18,520
Speaker 2: of guy, you know. I heard stories about Jim Harbaugh's

1234
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:21,480
Speaker 2: coaching out in LA with the charges. You know, he

1235
00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:24,680
Speaker 2: walks around from different coordinators from one room to the other.

1236
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:27,800
Speaker 2: You know, he lets them do their job. He oversees everything.

1237
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 2: You know, he'll go into the defensive coordinator's room and say,

1238
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:32,360
Speaker 2: what are you doing? What's going on this with you?

1239
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:36,000
Speaker 2: That's the way to do it. You can't be everything

1240
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:39,160
Speaker 2: to everybody. You oversee the big picture. Head coaches have

1241
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:41,719
Speaker 2: so much to do anyway. You know, I never believe

1242
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:43,560
Speaker 2: that a head coach should be calling the plays. I

1243
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:46,799
Speaker 2: just don't think he should. He's busy with media situations,

1244
00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:49,440
Speaker 2: you know, two three times a week, he's got media conferences.

1245
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:51,520
Speaker 2: There's just too much to be done over there. We've

1246
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:53,800
Speaker 2: got to continue with this number one draft picks. And

1247
00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:57,040
Speaker 2: twenty twenty three with the Carolina Panthers, Frank Wright, he

1248
00:52:57,239 --> 00:53:00,640
Speaker 2: was fight after eleven games with his rookie quarterback Bryce Young,

1249
00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:02,160
Speaker 2: he was gone, right.

1250
00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:03,520
Speaker 3: And then there's more.

1251
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:07,640
Speaker 2: Twenty twenty two, Urban Meyer fired his first year in Jacksonville,

1252
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:11,640
Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence. Okay, and there's more because there's the coach,

1253
00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:13,760
Speaker 2: and we need to discuss how a player can succeed

1254
00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:17,480
Speaker 2: with one coach and fail with another. It's got to

1255
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:19,520
Speaker 2: be the coach, don't you think. I mean, time is

1256
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:22,520
Speaker 2: a factor. They gotta grow, You gotta grow because they

1257
00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:24,560
Speaker 2: say the NFL is so much faster than the college game.

1258
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:26,600
Speaker 2: They got to learn the game. But I do believe

1259
00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:27,320
Speaker 2: it's the coach.

1260
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:29,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I think there's coach. But then also there's

1261
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:30,720
Speaker 3: other factors.

1262
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:33,640
Speaker 4: So you know, let's talk about a quarterback situation where

1263
00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:38,360
Speaker 4: you know, the offensive packages is probably more suitable for

1264
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:41,480
Speaker 4: one quarterback versus another quarterback. Shouldn't the coach know that?

1265
00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:43,960
Speaker 4: But sure the coach might know that, But I mean,

1266
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:49,120
Speaker 4: you're a professional athlete. You're expected to be a professional

1267
00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:53,359
Speaker 4: athlete in whatever sense of offensive package that they're they're running, right,

1268
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:56,040
Speaker 4: So you know, with all the way up in Baltimore,

1269
00:53:56,160 --> 00:54:01,280
Speaker 4: they might have a more a quarterback run heavy offensive approach.

1270
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:04,200
Speaker 3: Then to appeal Lamar Jacks. To appeal Lamar Jackson, then

1271
00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:05,640
Speaker 3: maybe a guy that's just going to sit in the

1272
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:07,440
Speaker 3: pocket with good protection around him.

1273
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:07,600
Speaker 7: Right.

1274
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:10,840
Speaker 3: So that's kind of where I think, like people like

1275
00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:12,160
Speaker 3: Baker Mayfield.

1276
00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:14,680
Speaker 4: He's finding this new win in them because he's found

1277
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:18,080
Speaker 4: the perfect offense that fits his style of football and

1278
00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:19,479
Speaker 4: there's good coaches around.

1279
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:21,280
Speaker 2: I'm glad you brought that up because there's some problems

1280
00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:24,320
Speaker 2: right now offensively in Philadelphia with the Eagles. Okay, they've

1281
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:28,239
Speaker 2: run into some problems. Two weeks ago, they gave say

1282
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:31,719
Speaker 2: Kwon Barkley the ball to rush eleven times. This guy

1283
00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:34,160
Speaker 2: rushed rope with two thousand yards last year, was the

1284
00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:36,640
Speaker 2: MVP of the Offensive Player of the Year. Eleven times

1285
00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:38,560
Speaker 2: they put the ball on his belly. Are you kidding me?

1286
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:40,360
Speaker 2: And it's a no offensive corn there over there with

1287
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:42,640
Speaker 2: the Eagles. I mean, you got to be crazy to me,

1288
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:45,319
Speaker 2: Like I like what Joe Flacco did the other night.

1289
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:48,160
Speaker 2: My bredon butter guy is Jamar Chase. Give him the

1290
00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:50,839
Speaker 2: freaking ball. And I'm sure in the huddles Jamar said,

1291
00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:52,920
Speaker 2: I'm free, give me the ball. Yeah, that's what they

1292
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:54,000
Speaker 2: did and they won the game.

1293
00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:54,399
Speaker 3: All right.

1294
00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:56,120
Speaker 2: I don't think I continue to do that, but they

1295
00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:59,239
Speaker 2: did it Thursday night in Philadelphia. You have bredon butter guy,

1296
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:02,160
Speaker 2: say Kuwon Barr, give him the ball. That's your offense.

1297
00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:02,920
Speaker 2: It's a no brainer.

1298
00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:04,920
Speaker 4: I mean, dad, give the ball to your best player

1299
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:07,359
Speaker 4: and let him do what he does best, and that's

1300
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:08,080
Speaker 4: running up and down.

1301
00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:11,160
Speaker 2: The coordinator should know that, or a head coach should

1302
00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:13,120
Speaker 2: know that. I don't know, if they're just too much

1303
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Speaker 2: into the heirds.

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00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:17,320
Speaker 4: Maybe it's like a like a maybe he upset a

1305
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:18,839
Speaker 4: him during the week or something like I'm not going

1306
00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:20,000
Speaker 4: to give you the ball this week. I don't know

1307
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:22,759
Speaker 4: who knows, but it certainly give the ball to your

1308
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:24,919
Speaker 4: best player and let him do what he does best.

1309
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:27,120
Speaker 2: In scrip, winch and win the game. I'll give you

1310
00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:30,839
Speaker 2: an example. The Indianapolis Coats are thriving right now. They're

1311
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:34,400
Speaker 2: unbelievable five and one. Really, Louisanna Romo was the scapegoat,

1312
00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:37,400
Speaker 2: the defensive coordinator in Cincinnati. He's thriving at with the Colts,

1313
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:39,120
Speaker 2: and I'm happy for him. I remember when he coached

1314
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:41,160
Speaker 2: high school football in New York City and Staten Island.

1315
00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:43,719
Speaker 2: All Right, Daniel Jones is their quarterback. They going there

1316
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:45,880
Speaker 2: to run Daniel Jones out of New York City on

1317
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:48,520
Speaker 2: a rail. He's thrown. He may be. I don't know

1318
00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:50,200
Speaker 2: if you give a compback player of the year because

1319
00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:52,239
Speaker 2: he never really did much before. He could be the

1320
00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:55,160
Speaker 2: comeback player of the year. Jones the quarterback. Yeah, that

1321
00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:57,520
Speaker 2: does not happen. I just I love, I love what's

1322
00:55:57,560 --> 00:55:58,320
Speaker 2: happening to Baker.

1323
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Speaker 4: I love what's happening to Daniel because it just seems

1324
00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:03,839
Speaker 4: to this be the second wind, this this second win

1325
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:08,319
Speaker 4: that's carrying him through. And they're doing so well, they're

1326
00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:12,040
Speaker 4: doing so great, and New York must be kicking themselves

1327
00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:15,360
Speaker 4: in the butt for getting rid of Jones and getting

1328
00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:18,040
Speaker 4: rid of Barkley and just knowing what they could have

1329
00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:21,680
Speaker 4: had potentially had they just kept the players or maybe

1330
00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:25,400
Speaker 4: just you know, change change what wasn't working right.

1331
00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:26,719
Speaker 2: But good for them.

1332
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:29,480
Speaker 4: Good for them for going and finding the organizations that

1333
00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:31,480
Speaker 4: fits them and now they're excelling.

1334
00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:34,800
Speaker 2: Okay, we heard Mike Tomlin last hour saying how shocked

1335
00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:37,120
Speaker 2: he was and maybe he's stupid, and Andy Berry, the

1336
00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:39,120
Speaker 2: general manager of the Browns, is not maybe smarter than

1337
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:41,960
Speaker 2: him for treading Joe Flacco in the division to the Bengals.

1338
00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:45,040
Speaker 2: How stupid would the Giants trading in the division to

1339
00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:48,800
Speaker 2: the Eagles with Sae Kwon Barkley when it gave him away? Basically,

1340
00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:50,640
Speaker 2: I mean, how stupid could you be?

1341
00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:53,279
Speaker 4: I would if I were a Giants fan, I would

1342
00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:57,320
Speaker 4: be banging my head against it all. Figure out what this,

1343
00:56:57,880 --> 00:57:01,160
Speaker 4: what this team was thinking with the team's approach was,

1344
00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:02,880
Speaker 4: what their thought process was.

1345
00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:06,200
Speaker 2: I don't think anyone still knows honestly that Look, the

1346
00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:08,560
Speaker 2: next snap I take in the National Football League will

1347
00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:10,000
Speaker 2: be my first. I have nothing to do with the

1348
00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:13,200
Speaker 2: National Football League. I did some work on Miami with

1349
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:14,800
Speaker 2: the Dophins when I was with the for Lord of

1350
00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:17,640
Speaker 2: Ville Strikers because the Robbie family owned both and the

1351
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:21,320
Speaker 2: only person I really knew. Was Charlie Callahan the greatest

1352
00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:22,640
Speaker 2: PR guy in the world. Can I give you a

1353
00:57:22,680 --> 00:57:26,080
Speaker 2: little story about Charlie Callahan. Charlie Callahan, he used to

1354
00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:28,440
Speaker 2: be the sports information guy Notre Dame and Joe Robbie.

1355
00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:30,800
Speaker 2: May he rest in peace. Joe Robbie hired him out

1356
00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:32,320
Speaker 2: of Not Jo Dame. He used to big Not Dame fan.

1357
00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:34,280
Speaker 2: And I used to go to Charlie's office. I mean,

1358
00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:36,479
Speaker 2: you know, I didn't even know the players. I stayed

1359
00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:39,040
Speaker 2: with Charlie Callahan. I learned, okay, and I looked on

1360
00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:41,880
Speaker 2: his wall in his office. He had like seventy five

1361
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:44,560
Speaker 2: eighty one hundred phone numbers on his wall. I said, Charlie,

1362
00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:47,680
Speaker 2: what is that. That's all the media contacts, all the

1363
00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:50,680
Speaker 2: newspaper guys. Okay, on the wall. He went on a

1364
00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:53,960
Speaker 2: road trip and he came back. They painted his office.

1365
00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:55,840
Speaker 2: All the numbers were gone. He won nuts.

1366
00:57:56,280 --> 00:57:58,200
Speaker 3: Charlie went nuts. That was Charlie Callahan.

1367
00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:01,760
Speaker 2: Unbelievable, good man them. May he rest in peace too. Okay,

1368
00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:04,080
Speaker 2: We're gonna continue with these coaches talking so much more.

1369
00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:06,520
Speaker 2: We've got Alex Ferman here for Bucky Brooks, and we've

1370
00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:08,720
Speaker 2: got to blame game with you and me at the

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1376
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1378
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1386
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1396
00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:16,120
Speaker 2: get after the air, we're going to have the blame

1397
00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:18,720
Speaker 2: game coming up in about ten minutes from now. You know,

1398
00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:21,640
Speaker 2: we talked about guy is getting a new life. You know,

1399
00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:24,200
Speaker 2: quarterbacks who were drafted number one of the coaches get fired,

1400
00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:25,760
Speaker 2: but so many these guys got a new life. To

1401
00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:29,040
Speaker 2: Daniel Jones of the world, to Baker Mayfield and these coaches.

1402
00:59:29,120 --> 00:59:31,240
Speaker 2: Right now, I'm going to run this by you. They

1403
00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:33,240
Speaker 2: all know the x's and o's. I think it's all

1404
00:59:33,240 --> 00:59:35,080
Speaker 2: about a leadership factor. I mean, you've got to be

1405
00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:37,360
Speaker 2: a great leader. You got to be able to delegate,

1406
00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:39,480
Speaker 2: you got to get respect. And look what happened in

1407
00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:42,720
Speaker 2: UCLA when the coaching changed. Why did the Lions lose

1408
00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:45,400
Speaker 2: for so long until Dan Campbell came along? You know

1409
00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:47,760
Speaker 2: what I mean, it's a coincidence. I mean really, I mean,

1410
00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:51,120
Speaker 2: how did Indiana become a football school? Easy, Kirk Signetti.

1411
00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:54,320
Speaker 2: I mean it's all about the coaching, you delegate and respect.

1412
00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:57,160
Speaker 2: For example, I remember this when Boomer Siasin was the

1413
00:59:57,280 --> 01:00:00,640
Speaker 2: quarterback for the Cincinnati Bengals. You're the quarterback coach? Was

1414
01:00:01,120 --> 01:00:04,560
Speaker 2: Dana Bible? You think Boomer had any respect for that guy?

1415
01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:07,240
Speaker 2: Guy never took a snap really in the NFL, didn't

1416
01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:10,200
Speaker 2: do anything. And I know Boomer, he spoke to me

1417
01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:12,640
Speaker 2: at length about this and I kept it quiet, but

1418
01:00:12,840 --> 01:00:15,400
Speaker 2: you know, he didn't have any respect. They banged heads

1419
01:00:15,440 --> 01:00:17,920
Speaker 2: all the time. Dana Bible's gonna tell Boomer's size and

1420
01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:20,360
Speaker 2: what to do. You have to have a guy with respect.

1421
01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:21,280
Speaker 2: That makes a big deal.

1422
01:00:21,560 --> 01:00:24,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, And you know, I think and I've been behind

1423
01:00:24,920 --> 01:00:28,320
Speaker 4: coaches where you do have to have respect, and once

1424
01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:31,120
Speaker 4: you do have that respect, the ties have turned and

1425
01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:34,040
Speaker 4: then everything becomes better. You become a better athlete for

1426
01:00:34,200 --> 01:00:36,640
Speaker 4: it because you have the respect for the coaches. Look

1427
01:00:36,640 --> 01:00:39,080
Speaker 4: at Dan Campbell, right, and look what he's done for

1428
01:00:39,240 --> 01:00:42,360
Speaker 4: Detroit And what's the difference there. What's the ultimate difference him?

1429
01:00:42,640 --> 01:00:45,640
Speaker 4: It's him, right, It's the culture that he's built. You know,

1430
01:00:45,720 --> 01:00:48,320
Speaker 4: I will preach culture until I am blue in the face, Dad,

1431
01:00:48,560 --> 01:00:51,280
Speaker 4: And that's one of the coaches. The coaches, what's one

1432
01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:53,840
Speaker 4: of the coaches that their main jobs, right is to

1433
01:00:53,880 --> 01:00:57,720
Speaker 4: build the culture and behind that players get behind that culture.

1434
01:00:57,800 --> 01:01:00,880
Speaker 4: They believe in the culture, they believe the cause, and

1435
01:01:01,240 --> 01:01:03,680
Speaker 4: once you amp up enough, they're ready to run through

1436
01:01:03,840 --> 01:01:04,280
Speaker 4: a brick.

1437
01:01:04,200 --> 01:01:06,400
Speaker 2: Wall for you. Jim Jim Harba, coach of the Charges,

1438
01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:08,560
Speaker 2: could be all the said and done. He may be

1439
01:01:08,680 --> 01:01:10,920
Speaker 2: one of the greatest coaches of all time. One in college,

1440
01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:13,480
Speaker 2: went anywhere in the NFL. When he's the forty nine ers,

1441
01:01:13,480 --> 01:01:15,640
Speaker 2: he won Charges of four and two and they play,

1442
01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:17,640
Speaker 2: they host the colt today. It's a pretty good game

1443
01:01:17,760 --> 01:01:20,439
Speaker 2: five and one. I've heard stories that Jim Harbaugh rolls

1444
01:01:20,520 --> 01:01:22,560
Speaker 2: up as sleeves goes in the weight room with these guys.

1445
01:01:22,800 --> 01:01:24,560
Speaker 2: You don't think that makes the difference. You don't think

1446
01:01:24,600 --> 01:01:27,080
Speaker 2: that fires up guys. It's set in the example. It's

1447
01:01:27,120 --> 01:01:28,000
Speaker 2: set in the example.

1448
01:01:28,120 --> 01:01:30,760
Speaker 4: And then and then you have coaches like the Cardinals

1449
01:01:30,840 --> 01:01:34,720
Speaker 4: where they're pushing their own players, and the guys see that.

1450
01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:37,760
Speaker 4: Players see that, right, and they look at that coach

1451
01:01:37,840 --> 01:01:41,640
Speaker 4: and say, no respect for you whatsoever. I'm gonna do me.

1452
01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:44,280
Speaker 4: I'm gonna try and play the best of my ability.

1453
01:01:44,600 --> 01:01:46,800
Speaker 4: But I don't believe in your I don't believe in

1454
01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:49,880
Speaker 4: your campaign. I don't believe in the culture that you're setting.

1455
01:01:50,200 --> 01:01:53,440
Speaker 4: I don't believe in you and uh, you know, you

1456
01:01:53,560 --> 01:01:55,680
Speaker 4: ask the players, you know, lie down to see their

1457
01:01:55,720 --> 01:01:56,320
Speaker 4: coaches fail.

1458
01:01:56,760 --> 01:01:59,280
Speaker 3: I see why maybe people would do that, you know,

1459
01:01:59,600 --> 01:02:01,560
Speaker 3: for the I will tell you another thing.

1460
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Speaker 2: I mean, and people ask me all the time, and

1461
01:02:03,120 --> 01:02:05,000
Speaker 2: how come the CINCINNTI Bengals have had such a difficult

1462
01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:06,600
Speaker 2: time over the years and within the Super Bowl three

1463
01:02:06,640 --> 01:02:10,360
Speaker 2: times they lost, but still overall they haven't really done well.

1464
01:02:10,720 --> 01:02:13,120
Speaker 3: The decade of the nineties was like death. It really was.

1465
01:02:13,480 --> 01:02:15,040
Speaker 2: And I've told him, I said, because I think that

1466
01:02:15,160 --> 01:02:18,000
Speaker 2: you need to get an experienced coach in here. The

1467
01:02:18,120 --> 01:02:20,600
Speaker 2: only experienced coach they ever really had who cracked the

1468
01:02:20,640 --> 01:02:24,280
Speaker 2: whip and players respected with fearful of was Forrest Gregg.

1469
01:02:24,640 --> 01:02:26,280
Speaker 2: He played the game, He was a tough guy, played

1470
01:02:26,320 --> 01:02:29,480
Speaker 2: for the Green Bay Packers. Other than that Dave Shula.

1471
01:02:29,960 --> 01:02:33,080
Speaker 2: You know why, because he was Don Shula's son. They

1472
01:02:33,240 --> 01:02:35,360
Speaker 2: kept me too long. What was his record? Something like

1473
01:02:35,520 --> 01:02:38,280
Speaker 2: eleven and eighty. I mean, come on, I mean, you

1474
01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:40,120
Speaker 2: got to get a guy who's been there, done that.

1475
01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:42,560
Speaker 2: And maybe that's why Callahan got fired in Tennessee.

1476
01:02:43,320 --> 01:02:47,680
Speaker 4: I think, well, in Tennessee's situation, I think it's just

1477
01:02:47,840 --> 01:02:51,480
Speaker 4: more than just him. I think that the entire ownership

1478
01:02:51,920 --> 01:02:55,480
Speaker 4: the GMS, there's just so much of a spaghetti kind

1479
01:02:55,480 --> 01:02:56,040
Speaker 4: of mess there.

1480
01:02:56,920 --> 01:02:58,360
Speaker 3: It's so hard to go through.

1481
01:02:59,240 --> 01:03:02,160
Speaker 4: And ultimately it's it's the players that's that's getting the

1482
01:03:02,200 --> 01:03:05,480
Speaker 4: front of it really because they have no leadership. They

1483
01:03:05,520 --> 01:03:08,280
Speaker 4: have no direction, right, and they need a solid courter

1484
01:03:08,400 --> 01:03:12,439
Speaker 4: or a solid leadership without a run he should really,

1485
01:03:12,600 --> 01:03:16,000
Speaker 4: he's ultimately the uh setting the prime example of what

1486
01:03:16,280 --> 01:03:17,240
Speaker 4: a good leader is going to be.

1487
01:03:17,320 --> 01:03:19,360
Speaker 2: No, it's Dan Cambell, you know. Okay, let me talk

1488
01:03:19,400 --> 01:03:21,280
Speaker 2: about the Charges now with Jim Harbor. Let's send that

1489
01:03:21,280 --> 01:03:23,520
Speaker 2: the Dolphins lost to the Charges. Dolphins are one and

1490
01:03:23,640 --> 01:03:25,960
Speaker 2: five and they meet the Browns in Cleveland today. If

1491
01:03:26,040 --> 01:03:28,800
Speaker 2: that game was in my backyard, I close the shades. Really,

1492
01:03:28,880 --> 01:03:31,040
Speaker 2: I mean, it's disgusting. But we got to talk about

1493
01:03:31,080 --> 01:03:33,720
Speaker 2: that because Mike McDaniel's another guy on the very very

1494
01:03:33,760 --> 01:03:36,400
Speaker 2: hot seat with the Miami Dolphins. Again, I say lack

1495
01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:39,000
Speaker 2: of leadership last week after the loss too of their

1496
01:03:39,080 --> 01:03:42,040
Speaker 2: quarterback point of the finger and his teammates about missing meetings.

1497
01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:44,160
Speaker 2: Who's a bad move. It's a terrible We just can't

1498
01:03:44,320 --> 01:03:46,360
Speaker 2: you could he had three d deceptions in that game.

1499
01:03:46,680 --> 01:03:48,400
Speaker 2: How could he not take the blame for that game,

1500
01:03:48,600 --> 01:03:51,040
Speaker 2: but this week he said something and I got to

1501
01:03:51,040 --> 01:03:52,280
Speaker 2: hear what he said to go ahead.

1502
01:03:52,760 --> 01:03:56,080
Speaker 5: I think it starts with the leadership in helping articulate

1503
01:03:56,160 --> 01:03:58,920
Speaker 5: that for the guys, and then what we're expecting out

1504
01:03:58,960 --> 01:04:02,360
Speaker 5: of the guys, Right, we're expecting this, Are we getting that?

1505
01:04:02,480 --> 01:04:03,320
Speaker 2: Are we not getting that?

1506
01:04:03,880 --> 01:04:07,160
Speaker 5: We have guys showing up to player only meetings late,

1507
01:04:07,800 --> 01:04:10,640
Speaker 5: guys not showing up to player only meeting Like, There's

1508
01:04:10,640 --> 01:04:12,480
Speaker 5: a lot that goes into that. Do we have to

1509
01:04:12,520 --> 01:04:14,800
Speaker 5: make this mandatory? Do we not have to make this mandatory?

1510
01:04:15,640 --> 01:04:18,880
Speaker 5: So so it's it's a lot of it's a lot

1511
01:04:18,920 --> 01:04:22,160
Speaker 5: of things of that nature that we got to get

1512
01:04:22,200 --> 01:04:24,720
Speaker 5: cleaned up. And it starts with the little things like that.

1513
01:04:25,640 --> 01:04:27,880
Speaker 2: Not his job to point fingers, that's not that's the

1514
01:04:27,960 --> 01:04:31,200
Speaker 2: coach's job. And when I asked McDaniel about that, he

1515
01:04:31,360 --> 01:04:34,200
Speaker 2: was it was embarrassing.

1516
01:04:34,320 --> 01:04:37,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, really, yeah. It's a real bad situation there over

1517
01:04:37,000 --> 01:04:39,360
Speaker 4: there in Miami. And ultimately I think it does kind

1518
01:04:39,400 --> 01:04:42,400
Speaker 4: of fall on Mike McDaniel in the culture that he's built.

1519
01:04:42,720 --> 01:04:45,200
Speaker 4: He doesn't have a culture there. He has a culture

1520
01:04:45,240 --> 01:04:47,800
Speaker 4: of people pointing fingers and not taking blame for or

1521
01:04:47,880 --> 01:04:51,560
Speaker 4: not taking responsibility for themselves. Now he's saying, we need

1522
01:04:51,640 --> 01:04:54,240
Speaker 4: to find a leader to what is a leader on

1523
01:04:54,360 --> 01:04:56,960
Speaker 4: the field. Not the mouth for the team. He's not

1524
01:04:57,040 --> 01:04:58,640
Speaker 4: the mouth for the team, no, but he is a

1525
01:04:58,800 --> 01:05:02,760
Speaker 4: leader on the team. Just buy his position, no doubt.

1526
01:05:02,760 --> 01:05:06,080
Speaker 4: Being the quarterback for the team, you are if you are,

1527
01:05:06,200 --> 01:05:08,640
Speaker 4: in doubt, the leader of the team, you are seen

1528
01:05:08,720 --> 01:05:11,800
Speaker 4: as the leader. The person does set the example regardless

1529
01:05:11,840 --> 01:05:14,640
Speaker 4: if you're the offense, if you're the defense, right, and

1530
01:05:14,800 --> 01:05:16,640
Speaker 4: you're kind of the face of the team a little

1531
01:05:16,640 --> 01:05:19,000
Speaker 4: bit because you're the one in the prime light, the

1532
01:05:19,120 --> 01:05:21,480
Speaker 4: bylight a little bit more, right, But certainly he doesn't

1533
01:05:21,520 --> 01:05:22,000
Speaker 4: have the mouth.

1534
01:05:22,760 --> 01:05:25,600
Speaker 3: But he can't be throwing You cannot be throwing your

1535
01:05:25,640 --> 01:05:27,120
Speaker 3: players underneath the buses.

1536
01:05:28,520 --> 01:05:29,120
Speaker 2: And the lust.

1537
01:05:29,160 --> 01:05:32,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, look at yourself internally first, right, see what you

1538
01:05:33,000 --> 01:05:37,720
Speaker 4: can do the better yourself first, and then help your players,

1539
01:05:37,920 --> 01:05:40,800
Speaker 4: help your other teammates. And if you're right, it is

1540
01:05:40,960 --> 01:05:42,960
Speaker 4: you know, hey, make sure you're getting to your meetings,

1541
01:05:43,160 --> 01:05:45,240
Speaker 4: push them individually, right and if you.

1542
01:05:45,240 --> 01:05:47,400
Speaker 2: Want to talk about them, talk them individually one on one,

1543
01:05:47,520 --> 01:05:50,880
Speaker 2: not to the media. Yes, that's behind the keep it

1544
01:05:50,880 --> 01:05:51,880
Speaker 2: out of the meeting and That's why I have so

1545
01:05:51,960 --> 01:05:54,160
Speaker 2: much expect for Jake Brownie because when he got bencham

1546
01:05:54,200 --> 01:05:57,640
Speaker 2: they put Joe Flacco, went to Cincinnati, he faced the music,

1547
01:05:57,800 --> 01:05:58,600
Speaker 2: he went to the media.

1548
01:05:58,720 --> 01:05:59,280
Speaker 3: SIT's on me.

1549
01:05:59,400 --> 01:06:03,200
Speaker 2: I gotta play bet. I wish Joe Flaccowell I'll be

1550
01:06:03,320 --> 01:06:05,720
Speaker 2: with him, and he could have hit a lot of

1551
01:06:05,800 --> 01:06:07,600
Speaker 2: these guys. I've been to locker rooms. You have the losses.

1552
01:06:07,800 --> 01:06:09,640
Speaker 2: He can't find the guy. They're in the training room,

1553
01:06:09,680 --> 01:06:11,720
Speaker 2: they don't come out. They're cowards.

1554
01:06:11,960 --> 01:06:14,120
Speaker 4: But you know the fact that the fact that Tua

1555
01:06:14,240 --> 01:06:17,480
Speaker 4: is saying that there's no leader here, you know, what

1556
01:06:17,640 --> 01:06:18,240
Speaker 4: does that tell you?

1557
01:06:18,320 --> 01:06:20,640
Speaker 3: What the organization tells me. He's dumping on his coach.

1558
01:06:20,760 --> 01:06:22,120
Speaker 3: He's dumping it on his coach.

1559
01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:27,040
Speaker 4: But kind of we don't see McDaniel doing anything in

1560
01:06:27,160 --> 01:06:30,640
Speaker 4: the sense of being that leader on the team. You know,

1561
01:06:30,880 --> 01:06:33,520
Speaker 4: I don't know he's taking ownership of what's what's going

1562
01:06:33,560 --> 01:06:35,840
Speaker 4: on with the team. But he just always had this

1563
01:06:36,840 --> 01:06:39,640
Speaker 4: nonchalant Southern look.

1564
01:06:39,720 --> 01:06:40,720
Speaker 3: He doesn't look like a coach.

1565
01:06:40,760 --> 01:06:41,680
Speaker 2: He looks like the count.

1566
01:06:41,840 --> 01:06:44,680
Speaker 4: He looks like he looks like an analyst or something

1567
01:06:44,760 --> 01:06:47,080
Speaker 4: like that, which is fine, you know, and I'm sure

1568
01:06:47,120 --> 01:06:48,320
Speaker 4: he knows the game listen.

1569
01:06:48,400 --> 01:06:50,120
Speaker 3: I'm not saying he doesn't know the game coach.

1570
01:06:51,120 --> 01:06:52,880
Speaker 4: He knows the exs and o's and he's in the

1571
01:06:52,960 --> 01:06:56,000
Speaker 4: position because he knows what he's doing right.

1572
01:06:56,120 --> 01:06:59,680
Speaker 3: But it's more than knowing the exces and o's dad, no.

1573
01:06:59,760 --> 01:07:03,040
Speaker 4: Doubt it's it's it's leading a group of guys onto

1574
01:07:03,160 --> 01:07:05,840
Speaker 4: the field and winning week in and week out and

1575
01:07:05,960 --> 01:07:09,120
Speaker 4: preparing your team. And McDaniel is not doing that, and

1576
01:07:09,240 --> 01:07:12,960
Speaker 4: he's not setting the right culture. Dan Campbell is in Detroit.

1577
01:07:13,480 --> 01:07:13,960
Speaker 6: He is not.

1578
01:07:14,160 --> 01:07:15,800
Speaker 3: And I've said it before in this show.

1579
01:07:16,120 --> 01:07:18,680
Speaker 4: I don't believe in getting rid of coaches midseason, but

1580
01:07:18,840 --> 01:07:21,760
Speaker 4: maybe McDaniel is my one, my one coach that.

1581
01:07:22,600 --> 01:07:24,560
Speaker 2: If he's gone after today's game, and I think that,

1582
01:07:25,040 --> 01:07:26,680
Speaker 2: I think two coaches are going to hit the road

1583
01:07:26,720 --> 01:07:29,920
Speaker 2: after this week. I think Luke Fickley Wisconsin and McDaniel

1584
01:07:30,080 --> 01:07:32,360
Speaker 2: in Miami. I think those guys are gone. And I'll

1585
01:07:32,400 --> 01:07:34,920
Speaker 2: say something else. And you follow sports as much as

1586
01:07:34,960 --> 01:07:37,520
Speaker 2: anybody else, don't you notice a change in coaches. I

1587
01:07:37,600 --> 01:07:39,920
Speaker 2: think coaches want to be liked, don't you think that.

1588
01:07:40,120 --> 01:07:41,760
Speaker 2: I mean, back back in the day, I remember what

1589
01:07:41,840 --> 01:07:44,560
Speaker 2: coaches after a game, they would call out a player

1590
01:07:44,960 --> 01:07:47,240
Speaker 2: at their postgame news conference, they call him out, Hey,

1591
01:07:47,480 --> 01:07:48,960
Speaker 2: if he would have caught that ball, we would I

1592
01:07:49,000 --> 01:07:51,919
Speaker 2: don't hear that anymore. They're afraid of the players, don't

1593
01:07:51,960 --> 01:07:53,080
Speaker 2: you think. I don't hear that.

1594
01:07:53,360 --> 01:07:55,920
Speaker 4: I think there's more pressure on being a little bit

1595
01:07:55,960 --> 01:08:00,120
Speaker 4: more PC now honestly politically correct. You know, it's well,

1596
01:08:00,240 --> 01:08:03,640
Speaker 4: ultimately two, you know, it's a team sport, you know,

1597
01:08:04,120 --> 01:08:06,400
Speaker 4: but sure there's things that happen. You know, if he

1598
01:08:06,440 --> 01:08:08,920
Speaker 4: had caught that pass, we would have gotten the game

1599
01:08:09,000 --> 01:08:10,120
Speaker 4: winning touched on whatever it may be.

1600
01:08:10,360 --> 01:08:10,680
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1601
01:08:10,720 --> 01:08:13,600
Speaker 4: I think it's shifted, the culture shifted, and that's fine,

1602
01:08:13,840 --> 01:08:15,840
Speaker 4: But ultimately I would have liked to say.

1603
01:08:15,760 --> 01:08:18,280
Speaker 2: Look, you know it was a tough loss, but you know,

1604
01:08:18,320 --> 01:08:20,280
Speaker 2: if two wouldn't have thrown those three picks, maybe we

1605
01:08:20,400 --> 01:08:21,200
Speaker 2: could have been in the game.

1606
01:08:21,520 --> 01:08:23,840
Speaker 4: No guy once wants to play for a coach, he's

1607
01:08:23,840 --> 01:08:25,640
Speaker 4: going to throw him underneath the bus like that. I

1608
01:08:25,680 --> 01:08:27,640
Speaker 4: don't want to play for a coach like that. You know,

1609
01:08:28,160 --> 01:08:30,240
Speaker 4: I want a coach that's going to take ownership of

1610
01:08:30,360 --> 01:08:31,879
Speaker 4: what fell in his basket.

1611
01:08:32,439 --> 01:08:33,160
Speaker 2: This fell on me.

1612
01:08:33,400 --> 01:08:35,640
Speaker 3: I didn't prepare the team enough this week for the

1613
01:08:35,720 --> 01:08:37,920
Speaker 3: come out with the win. It falls on me.

1614
01:08:38,280 --> 01:08:40,800
Speaker 4: But I don't want to hear my coach dogging on

1615
01:08:40,920 --> 01:08:43,320
Speaker 4: my running back or dogging on my defense.

1616
01:08:44,080 --> 01:08:44,680
Speaker 2: I don't want to hear it.

1617
01:08:44,760 --> 01:08:46,480
Speaker 3: No, because no, because that ruins.

1618
01:08:46,200 --> 01:08:50,360
Speaker 4: Morale, and it ruins morale, and it ruins you know,

1619
01:08:50,560 --> 01:08:53,080
Speaker 4: everything that the coaches is going to start saying is

1620
01:08:53,120 --> 01:08:54,600
Speaker 4: going to go in one ear and ride out the

1621
01:08:54,640 --> 01:08:56,040
Speaker 4: other because they lose respect.

1622
01:08:56,040 --> 01:08:58,000
Speaker 2: This the whole respect. Well, you're speaking about that about

1623
01:08:58,040 --> 01:09:01,080
Speaker 2: going in one ear at the other. Bear's quote Caleb Williams, Okay,

1624
01:09:01,280 --> 01:09:03,320
Speaker 2: he said they could care less about commentary.

1625
01:09:03,520 --> 01:09:04,160
Speaker 3: You're full of it.

1626
01:09:04,520 --> 01:09:05,280
Speaker 1: You let me hear.

1627
01:09:05,439 --> 01:09:07,040
Speaker 3: Go ahead, Calen, what do you get to say?

1628
01:09:07,800 --> 01:09:08,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I could care less.

1629
01:09:09,400 --> 01:09:13,000
Speaker 12: Yeah, it's kind of how I think I've said multiple times.

1630
01:09:13,560 --> 01:09:14,880
Speaker 12: People are gonna say what they have to say.

1631
01:09:15,760 --> 01:09:16,719
Speaker 5: We win, we lose.

1632
01:09:17,520 --> 01:09:19,600
Speaker 12: People have stuff to say. It was lucky, it was

1633
01:09:19,640 --> 01:09:23,000
Speaker 12: not lucky. People have stuff to say. Have a bad game,

1634
01:09:23,120 --> 01:09:24,800
Speaker 12: have a good game. You know, people have stuff to say.

1635
01:09:24,800 --> 01:09:27,800
Speaker 12: So it's it's it doesn't matter. We're only worried about

1636
01:09:27,800 --> 01:09:30,760
Speaker 12: what's going on here within this building and with these guys.

1637
01:09:30,840 --> 01:09:32,880
Speaker 12: So that's all I can say about that.

1638
01:09:33,800 --> 01:09:35,519
Speaker 2: You're full of it. First of the Bears are home

1639
01:09:35,560 --> 01:09:37,360
Speaker 2: today in Chicago the at three and two. They're hosting

1640
01:09:37,439 --> 01:09:39,640
Speaker 2: the Saints one in five. Caleb, you're the same guy

1641
01:09:39,680 --> 01:09:41,559
Speaker 2: that wrote a book and said quarterbacks go to Chicago

1642
01:09:41,640 --> 01:09:44,240
Speaker 2: to die. All right, I mean so when you say

1643
01:09:44,280 --> 01:09:46,160
Speaker 2: stuff like that, when you stick yourhead above the sea,

1644
01:09:46,520 --> 01:09:49,400
Speaker 2: over the water, okay, you're going to get people commenting

1645
01:09:49,479 --> 01:09:52,040
Speaker 2: about you. And believe you, listen and all these all

1646
01:09:52,080 --> 01:09:54,920
Speaker 2: these athletes listen. And I know firsthand because I used

1647
01:09:54,960 --> 01:09:57,320
Speaker 2: to go to locker rooms after games, Reds games, Bengals games.

1648
01:09:57,840 --> 01:09:59,519
Speaker 2: Guys wouldn't talk to me. They cursed me. They go

1649
01:09:59,600 --> 01:10:02,400
Speaker 2: nuts on because of what I've said. They listen, they read,

1650
01:10:02,479 --> 01:10:03,120
Speaker 2: they do it all.

1651
01:10:03,479 --> 01:10:06,559
Speaker 3: Believe me, they do. They're very sensitive. They listen day listen,

1652
01:10:06,640 --> 01:10:08,960
Speaker 3: and they hate that we're being critics. But honestly, Dad,

1653
01:10:09,360 --> 01:10:11,160
Speaker 3: that's our job. We have to be critics. But the

1654
01:10:11,200 --> 01:10:13,240
Speaker 3: voice the fans are saying that we say it. I'm

1655
01:10:13,280 --> 01:10:14,559
Speaker 3: not gonna be able to eat if I'm not going

1656
01:10:14,600 --> 01:10:16,280
Speaker 3: to be critical. I don't have a house if I'm

1657
01:10:16,320 --> 01:10:17,040
Speaker 3: not going to be critical.

1658
01:10:17,160 --> 01:10:19,360
Speaker 4: But certainly I don't think you know this whole thing

1659
01:10:19,960 --> 01:10:21,439
Speaker 4: he thinks. I don't know if he thinks that Troy

1660
01:10:21,479 --> 01:10:24,799
Speaker 4: Aikman was being critical. I think he wasn't being critical.

1661
01:10:25,160 --> 01:10:27,800
Speaker 4: I think he just saw what he saw on the

1662
01:10:27,840 --> 01:10:29,960
Speaker 4: field and he just called it, Oh, that looks lucky,

1663
01:10:30,160 --> 01:10:31,479
Speaker 4: and I think that's all it was.

1664
01:10:31,760 --> 01:10:31,880
Speaker 5: Right.

1665
01:10:32,200 --> 01:10:34,880
Speaker 2: It's struck a nerve with Caleb. You know, if he

1666
01:10:34,960 --> 01:10:37,959
Speaker 2: doesn't care, sorry, does he listens?

1667
01:10:38,160 --> 01:10:38,679
Speaker 3: He knows?

1668
01:10:40,600 --> 01:10:42,960
Speaker 2: It's kind of crazy, really, I mean that these guys

1669
01:10:43,040 --> 01:10:46,640
Speaker 2: say these things and like, now I'm commenting on what

1670
01:10:46,720 --> 01:10:49,240
Speaker 2: he said, and maybe it's going to get back to say, yeah,

1671
01:10:49,479 --> 01:10:51,800
Speaker 2: you know, he does listen. I mean, come on, really,

1672
01:10:52,560 --> 01:10:54,720
Speaker 2: he why some You know what I'll tell you. The

1673
01:10:54,800 --> 01:10:56,600
Speaker 2: problem is that my background is always I was a

1674
01:10:56,680 --> 01:10:59,600
Speaker 2: PR guy with sports teams. The PR guys needs to

1675
01:10:59,680 --> 01:11:02,200
Speaker 2: let you these players when and where to talk, on

1676
01:11:02,320 --> 01:11:04,519
Speaker 2: what to say, and I don't think they do. I

1677
01:11:04,600 --> 01:11:07,040
Speaker 2: really see PR guys become service guys.

1678
01:11:07,040 --> 01:11:07,519
Speaker 3: You know what they do.

1679
01:11:07,920 --> 01:11:10,800
Speaker 2: They answer the phone when a guy needs statistics, when

1680
01:11:10,840 --> 01:11:12,799
Speaker 2: they want an interview, or they want tickets.

1681
01:11:12,960 --> 01:11:13,519
Speaker 3: That's what they do.

1682
01:11:14,040 --> 01:11:17,479
Speaker 2: You need to you're the really you're the guy that

1683
01:11:17,720 --> 01:11:21,559
Speaker 2: basically kind of puts the team in perspective. You could

1684
01:11:21,680 --> 01:11:24,639
Speaker 2: change things, You could change the attitude of a guy.

1685
01:11:24,840 --> 01:11:27,519
Speaker 2: You could change Caleb Williams and tell them don't say

1686
01:11:27,640 --> 01:11:29,760
Speaker 2: things like that. They don't. I used to meet with

1687
01:11:29,840 --> 01:11:31,439
Speaker 2: the team all the time. I used to go to

1688
01:11:31,479 --> 01:11:33,000
Speaker 2: the coach, coach guy, talk the team for a second,

1689
01:11:33,080 --> 01:11:35,040
Speaker 2: say I'm here to help you guys. You know, if

1690
01:11:35,200 --> 01:11:36,560
Speaker 2: you'll tell you who you gonna talk to, tell you

1691
01:11:36,560 --> 01:11:39,200
Speaker 2: what the guys gonna ask you, you help them, help

1692
01:11:39,280 --> 01:11:41,640
Speaker 2: these guys. These guys don't do it. I see it now.

1693
01:11:41,760 --> 01:11:43,080
Speaker 4: These guys don't do it. And I don't know if

1694
01:11:43,120 --> 01:11:44,880
Speaker 4: they think I just got this in the bag, don't

1695
01:11:44,880 --> 01:11:47,040
Speaker 4: worry about it. You can handle my own or whatever.

1696
01:11:46,800 --> 01:11:47,160
Speaker 1: It may be.

1697
01:11:47,560 --> 01:11:50,400
Speaker 4: But I think with Caleb was he's just trying to say,

1698
01:11:50,479 --> 01:11:52,400
Speaker 4: is you know, I'm not gonna let this outside noise

1699
01:11:52,439 --> 01:11:54,720
Speaker 4: bother me. And he's saying things like we're keeping it

1700
01:11:54,800 --> 01:11:56,800
Speaker 4: within the building, we're just going week by week, or

1701
01:11:56,840 --> 01:11:59,120
Speaker 4: focusing what's in front of each other. But certainly it

1702
01:11:59,200 --> 01:12:01,439
Speaker 4: struck a chord with him. The fact that he's even

1703
01:12:01,560 --> 01:12:04,479
Speaker 4: commenting on it and stuff like that.

1704
01:12:04,640 --> 01:12:05,160
Speaker 2: I don't think.

1705
01:12:05,360 --> 01:12:07,920
Speaker 4: I don't think Troy Aikman was or Troy Aikman was

1706
01:12:09,160 --> 01:12:11,320
Speaker 4: calling him out or nothing like that, saying all.

1707
01:12:11,280 --> 01:12:12,800
Speaker 3: He's just you got luck, have you.

1708
01:12:13,040 --> 01:12:15,439
Speaker 4: There's been times I will say, there's been times where

1709
01:12:15,479 --> 01:12:18,240
Speaker 4: we've walked off the field and said, man, we got lucky.

1710
01:12:18,479 --> 01:12:21,000
Speaker 3: We got away with that. Seriously, I agree.

1711
01:12:21,160 --> 01:12:23,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's kind of crazy, it really is. I just

1712
01:12:24,320 --> 01:12:27,240
Speaker 2: I don't understand it. I really don't. Then these athletes,

1713
01:12:27,720 --> 01:12:29,519
Speaker 2: it's kind of crazy. I tell you what changed though.

1714
01:12:30,040 --> 01:12:32,000
Speaker 2: They don't need the media because they have their own

1715
01:12:32,040 --> 01:12:33,800
Speaker 2: media with social media, you know what I mean. They

1716
01:12:33,880 --> 01:12:37,960
Speaker 2: put on x They don't need the third party when

1717
01:12:38,000 --> 01:12:40,439
Speaker 2: they go directly to the public, to the source of

1718
01:12:40,680 --> 01:12:42,920
Speaker 2: one big mess, one big mess, as it really is.

1719
01:12:43,000 --> 01:12:45,840
Speaker 2: Alex Ferman in for Bucky Brooks. I'm Andy Furman, and

1720
01:12:45,920 --> 01:12:48,160
Speaker 2: of course it's time to blow up some steam, which

1721
01:12:48,200 --> 01:12:50,479
Speaker 2: we've been doing actually almost for two hours. It's the

1722
01:12:50,560 --> 01:12:53,439
Speaker 2: playing game, and you know what it's freaking next, all right,

1723
01:12:53,479 --> 01:12:56,400
Speaker 2: the playing game coming right up about ten twelve minutes

1724
01:12:56,400 --> 01:12:57,800
Speaker 2: before the top of the hour. And top of the hour,

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Speaker 2: I'll be eight o'clock on the East coast. Mike Harmon,

1726
01:13:00,160 --> 01:13:03,439
Speaker 2: Greg co Cell will join you on these wonderful airwaves

1727
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Speaker 2: Fox Ports Radio. He's Alex from and the Mandy fer

1728
01:13:05,800 --> 01:13:07,640
Speaker 2: When we're lying on the Fox boats radio studios that

1729
01:13:07,720 --> 01:13:09,920
Speaker 2: before we say good, but I want to thank you

1730
01:13:10,080 --> 01:13:11,080
Speaker 2: did one heck of a job.

1731
01:13:11,120 --> 01:13:13,479
Speaker 3: Bucky would be proud of you. No, I appreciate that.

1732
01:13:13,720 --> 01:13:16,360
Speaker 3: You know it's hard for people to work with you.

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01:13:16,439 --> 01:13:16,639
Speaker 10: Dad.

1734
01:13:16,760 --> 01:13:17,120
Speaker 2: Why is that?

1735
01:13:18,439 --> 01:13:18,840
Speaker 10: Why is that?

1736
01:13:19,000 --> 01:13:19,120
Speaker 7: Well?

1737
01:13:19,200 --> 01:13:21,080
Speaker 4: You know you tend to be a little crazy, a

1738
01:13:21,120 --> 01:13:23,640
Speaker 4: little cuckoo. And I don't know, I don't know if

1739
01:13:23,680 --> 01:13:25,679
Speaker 4: that's just your your advanced age.

1740
01:13:25,800 --> 01:13:28,360
Speaker 3: How dare you? That's your How dare you? Wherever it

1741
01:13:28,479 --> 01:13:28,720
Speaker 3: may be?

1742
01:13:29,000 --> 01:13:29,240
Speaker 7: Come in?

1743
01:13:29,400 --> 01:13:32,840
Speaker 3: Let me smack. I stepped in for I stepped in.

1744
01:13:32,960 --> 01:13:35,200
Speaker 2: I'll dare you here with you? Thank you for having me.

1745
01:13:35,320 --> 01:13:37,200
Speaker 3: You know what, I'll never see you here again. I'll

1746
01:13:37,200 --> 01:13:39,680
Speaker 3: see here in another three years. Yeah, right, Brianna? Are

1747
01:13:39,720 --> 01:13:43,479
Speaker 3: you ready for the blame game? Let's go. It's all

1748
01:13:43,600 --> 01:13:45,880
Speaker 3: your fault? No, it's your fault.

1749
01:13:46,280 --> 01:13:54,200
Speaker 1: If it's all your fault, maybe it's everyone's fault, the liar.

1750
01:13:54,439 --> 01:13:57,800
Speaker 3: That's why there's the blame game. Let's figure out who

1751
01:13:57,880 --> 01:13:58,320
Speaker 3: to blame.

1752
01:13:58,520 --> 01:13:59,320
Speaker 7: Not the blame game.

1753
01:13:59,360 --> 01:14:01,320
Speaker 2: Go ahead, bring on, go ahead, give us one.

1754
01:14:01,520 --> 01:14:01,800
Speaker 3: Okay.

1755
01:14:01,840 --> 01:14:06,080
Speaker 8: The Oklahoma University women's softball team topped Oklahoma Christian thirty

1756
01:14:06,200 --> 01:14:07,000
Speaker 8: five to zero.

1757
01:14:07,160 --> 01:14:07,639
Speaker 3: Last week.

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01:14:08,000 --> 01:14:09,120
Speaker 8: Alex, who do you blame.

1759
01:14:10,160 --> 01:14:12,400
Speaker 4: Oh, I guess I blame whoever was pitching that game?

1760
01:14:12,600 --> 01:14:14,360
Speaker 4: Gave up thirty five points? How do you give up

1761
01:14:14,439 --> 01:14:17,920
Speaker 4: thirty five runs? Unbelievable? I mean that has to be bad.

1762
01:14:18,040 --> 01:14:18,719
Speaker 2: I mean, what's.

1763
01:14:18,560 --> 01:14:21,200
Speaker 3: It's just so wrong? Underhand pitcher?

1764
01:14:21,439 --> 01:14:22,160
Speaker 2: Was it softball?

1765
01:14:22,400 --> 01:14:23,240
Speaker 3: It's softball?

1766
01:14:23,320 --> 01:14:25,960
Speaker 2: Yeah? Okay, you're so rushed to coach. She should know better,

1767
01:14:26,120 --> 01:14:28,840
Speaker 2: you know, the little sportsmanship here? Thirty five? Are you

1768
01:14:29,000 --> 01:14:31,479
Speaker 2: kidding me? After there was ten? Nothing to walk off

1769
01:14:31,520 --> 01:14:33,040
Speaker 2: the field and shake hands? First of all, why are

1770
01:14:33,040 --> 01:14:35,840
Speaker 2: you schedule Oklahoma University women's softball is one like the

1771
01:14:35,920 --> 01:14:38,719
Speaker 2: NCAA tournament like the last three or four years? Okay,

1772
01:14:39,240 --> 01:14:43,439
Speaker 2: can you just like not schedule Oklahoma Christian? Really? I mean,

1773
01:14:43,479 --> 01:14:45,000
Speaker 2: come on, it's a warm up game for them, I

1774
01:14:45,040 --> 01:14:45,720
Speaker 2: guess warm up?

1775
01:14:45,840 --> 01:14:46,080
Speaker 3: Really?

1776
01:14:46,240 --> 01:14:47,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not right?

1777
01:14:47,760 --> 01:14:49,640
Speaker 8: Go ahead, I'm gonna ask that Chris plaink about that.

1778
01:14:49,800 --> 01:14:50,400
Speaker 8: I'm curious.

1779
01:14:50,520 --> 01:14:52,040
Speaker 2: Okay, Oh, he's a homer.

1780
01:14:52,439 --> 01:14:53,200
Speaker 3: He's a homer.

1781
01:14:53,920 --> 01:14:56,439
Speaker 2: I lived at Olklahoma too, but he's a Sooner homer.

1782
01:14:57,240 --> 01:15:01,639
Speaker 8: The NFL has added the Monday night doubleheader on their schedule,

1783
01:15:01,760 --> 01:15:05,600
Speaker 8: apparently to crush the MLB postseason ballgames. Andy, who do

1784
01:15:05,640 --> 01:15:06,320
Speaker 8: you blame.

1785
01:15:06,320 --> 01:15:08,200
Speaker 2: I blame the National Football League. There are a bunch

1786
01:15:08,200 --> 01:15:10,280
Speaker 2: of pigs they really I love football of the National

1787
01:15:10,320 --> 01:15:12,720
Speaker 2: Football League, but what they've done right now, they've taken

1788
01:15:12,800 --> 01:15:15,639
Speaker 2: Christmas away from the NBA. Now on Monday night. First

1789
01:15:15,640 --> 01:15:17,800
Speaker 2: of all, for the fans, you can only watch one

1790
01:15:17,880 --> 01:15:20,640
Speaker 2: game at a time, You really can. I can't multitask.

1791
01:15:20,840 --> 01:15:22,680
Speaker 2: But why are you putting two games on almost every

1792
01:15:22,720 --> 01:15:23,240
Speaker 2: Monday night?

1793
01:15:23,360 --> 01:15:23,880
Speaker 7: I know why.

1794
01:15:24,040 --> 01:15:26,559
Speaker 2: Of course Major League Baseball has their playoff games on there,

1795
01:15:26,680 --> 01:15:28,880
Speaker 2: and you want to squash them too. Come on, really,

1796
01:15:29,040 --> 01:15:31,679
Speaker 2: there should be something out of Congress where seasons should

1797
01:15:31,680 --> 01:15:34,679
Speaker 2: have a start and an end period and a story.

1798
01:15:36,280 --> 01:15:38,960
Speaker 3: Okay, go ahead, perfectly said, go ahead. I can't follow

1799
01:15:39,040 --> 01:15:39,240
Speaker 3: up with that.

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Speaker 7: You better.

1801
01:15:40,640 --> 01:15:42,840
Speaker 2: I hate the two you're working you watch two games

1802
01:15:42,880 --> 01:15:44,320
Speaker 2: at once? Just have one game.

1803
01:15:44,520 --> 01:15:46,439
Speaker 4: It just seems like just this year they started doing

1804
01:15:46,479 --> 01:15:47,760
Speaker 4: this doubleheader on Monday nights.

1805
01:15:47,840 --> 01:15:48,880
Speaker 3: When do they start doing that?

1806
01:15:49,000 --> 01:15:51,200
Speaker 2: Come on? I agree with you on I want to.

1807
01:15:51,200 --> 01:15:52,760
Speaker 3: Listen to Joe Buck and Joy I mean, that's all

1808
01:15:52,800 --> 01:15:53,479
Speaker 3: I want to listen to.

1809
01:15:53,720 --> 01:15:54,000
Speaker 2: Thank you.

1810
01:15:54,160 --> 01:15:56,160
Speaker 8: You guys only have like one TV in your house,

1811
01:15:56,240 --> 01:15:57,280
Speaker 8: Like I'm so confused.

1812
01:15:57,600 --> 01:16:01,479
Speaker 2: Like the Rea it has the rabbit rabbit black and

1813
01:16:01,520 --> 01:16:03,679
Speaker 2: white rabbit ears, and I have to get up every

1814
01:16:03,680 --> 01:16:05,120
Speaker 2: time my dad wants to change the channel.

1815
01:16:05,160 --> 01:16:05,839
Speaker 3: Twelve inches.

1816
01:16:06,080 --> 01:16:07,519
Speaker 2: Oh okay.

1817
01:16:08,160 --> 01:16:10,599
Speaker 8: The almost touchdown syndrome is a parent in the NFL

1818
01:16:10,640 --> 01:16:13,120
Speaker 8: where a player drops the ball before he crosses the

1819
01:16:13,280 --> 01:16:14,280
Speaker 8: goal line.

1820
01:16:15,200 --> 01:16:18,800
Speaker 3: Alex, who do you blame? I think I blame the

1821
01:16:18,840 --> 01:16:20,040
Speaker 3: startom of the other players.

1822
01:16:20,240 --> 01:16:22,280
Speaker 4: I think they're trying to one up each other and

1823
01:16:22,360 --> 01:16:24,840
Speaker 4: trying to see how close can they get to the

1824
01:16:24,920 --> 01:16:26,559
Speaker 4: goal line before they can drop the ball.

1825
01:16:26,600 --> 01:16:29,080
Speaker 2: I think it's no, it's a competition.

1826
01:16:28,720 --> 01:16:30,720
Speaker 3: Between them all the competition we don't know.

1827
01:16:30,840 --> 01:16:33,679
Speaker 2: But I blame TV and the Four Letter Network because

1828
01:16:33,680 --> 01:16:35,240
Speaker 2: they want to get in the highlight film that's what

1829
01:16:35,280 --> 01:16:37,320
Speaker 2: they want to do. Really, I blame them. You know,

1830
01:16:38,000 --> 01:16:39,760
Speaker 2: maybe they're just stupid. They don't know what the line is.

1831
01:16:39,800 --> 01:16:41,080
Speaker 2: I don't I give credit they're not that.

1832
01:16:41,200 --> 01:16:43,160
Speaker 3: Maybe it's the peripheral vision they don't know what the

1833
01:16:43,240 --> 01:16:43,600
Speaker 3: line is.

1834
01:16:43,720 --> 01:16:46,599
Speaker 2: Give it credit then, But honestly, it's TV. They want

1835
01:16:46,600 --> 01:16:48,280
Speaker 2: to get into the highlight reels. That's what they want

1836
01:16:48,280 --> 01:16:50,439
Speaker 2: to do. You're talking about clicks. They want click click bait.

1837
01:16:50,479 --> 01:16:51,040
Speaker 2: That's clickbait.

1838
01:16:51,160 --> 01:16:51,720
Speaker 3: That's what they want.

1839
01:16:52,439 --> 01:16:56,040
Speaker 8: Next, Okay, how bad has it gotten for the Baltimore Ravens.

1840
01:16:56,120 --> 01:16:58,519
Speaker 8: They held the Rams to seventeen points and wide receiver

1841
01:16:58,600 --> 01:17:02,040
Speaker 8: Pukinakua two catches before he was injured last week. It's

1842
01:17:02,080 --> 01:17:04,639
Speaker 8: still lost by fourteen, Alex.

1843
01:17:04,680 --> 01:17:05,280
Speaker 3: Who do you blame?

1844
01:17:06,400 --> 01:17:09,479
Speaker 2: I gotta blame. Maybe it's the coaching who knows. Yes, No,

1845
01:17:09,680 --> 01:17:10,320
Speaker 2: it's the coaching.

1846
01:17:10,600 --> 01:17:13,280
Speaker 4: They don't They're not preparing the team, you know, That's

1847
01:17:13,280 --> 01:17:16,200
Speaker 4: what I'm thinking, Dad. Or you blame the defense they're scoring.

1848
01:17:16,280 --> 01:17:18,240
Speaker 4: They blame them rundown the field and score points.

1849
01:17:18,520 --> 01:17:19,160
Speaker 3: What do you think.

1850
01:17:19,520 --> 01:17:21,559
Speaker 2: No, I'm not blaming John harbab because he's the same

1851
01:17:21,640 --> 01:17:24,240
Speaker 2: coach that that's won all these years. You know, I

1852
01:17:24,360 --> 01:17:27,360
Speaker 2: blame the trainer, the athletic trainer. They're all hurt. The

1853
01:17:27,520 --> 01:17:30,400
Speaker 2: medical staff blame. There's gotta be a blame. You gotta

1854
01:17:30,520 --> 01:17:33,000
Speaker 2: point the finger. I'm not blaming John Harbaugh because he

1855
01:17:33,040 --> 01:17:34,640
Speaker 2: knows the game when they've won with him. It's the

1856
01:17:34,720 --> 01:17:37,080
Speaker 2: medical staff because these guys are getting hurt, they're not

1857
01:17:37,160 --> 01:17:39,600
Speaker 2: in condition. Whatever it may be, the medical staff is

1858
01:17:39,640 --> 01:17:41,439
Speaker 2: the problem with the Baltimore Ravens.

1859
01:17:42,560 --> 01:17:46,120
Speaker 8: Okay Brown Jerkie quarterback dealing Gabriel through the ball fifty

1860
01:17:46,200 --> 01:17:48,840
Speaker 8: two times last week and produced just two hundred and

1861
01:17:48,880 --> 01:17:51,879
Speaker 8: twenty one yards or four point three yards per attempt,

1862
01:17:51,960 --> 01:17:54,080
Speaker 8: and he was sacked six times.

1863
01:17:54,640 --> 01:17:58,240
Speaker 2: Who do you blame? Andy all Right, the general manager

1864
01:17:58,240 --> 01:18:00,960
Speaker 2: who is smart enough to change trade Joe Flack out

1865
01:18:01,000 --> 01:18:03,240
Speaker 2: of the Cincinnati Bengals. First of all, Dylan, I don't

1866
01:18:03,240 --> 01:18:05,080
Speaker 2: want to say I want to see your door Sanders play.

1867
01:18:05,400 --> 01:18:07,919
Speaker 2: That's what the fans want. Fans want your door Sanders.

1868
01:18:08,120 --> 01:18:10,880
Speaker 2: He's the guy. He's gonna sell tickets. Dylan, I'm sorry

1869
01:18:10,920 --> 01:18:11,640
Speaker 2: your time is up.

1870
01:18:11,840 --> 01:18:12,240
Speaker 3: Goodbye.

1871
01:18:14,080 --> 01:18:16,640
Speaker 2: I agree. I like that you put Sanders and why not?

1872
01:18:16,800 --> 01:18:17,639
Speaker 2: What do you got to lose?

1873
01:18:17,760 --> 01:18:18,000
Speaker 4: See it?

1874
01:18:18,400 --> 01:18:21,080
Speaker 3: You've drafted him for a reason. Put him in the game.

1875
01:18:21,160 --> 01:18:22,440
Speaker 3: You're not going to the playoffs.

1876
01:18:22,600 --> 01:18:23,040
Speaker 2: I don't think.

1877
01:18:23,120 --> 01:18:24,519
Speaker 3: I mean, I love the guy who was a great

1878
01:18:24,520 --> 01:18:26,000
Speaker 3: college quarterback. I don't know if he can see.

1879
01:18:25,840 --> 01:18:28,360
Speaker 2: Over the line, Dad, I don't think he's gonna line.

1880
01:18:28,360 --> 01:18:31,080
Speaker 2: I think you're right, orran put your Dooran's Butcher door in.

1881
01:18:31,320 --> 01:18:32,120
Speaker 2: You got anything else?

1882
01:18:32,360 --> 01:18:32,519
Speaker 4: Yes?

1883
01:18:32,960 --> 01:18:36,160
Speaker 8: Carson Bucks Heisman hopes took a hit after Miami lost

1884
01:18:36,240 --> 01:18:37,680
Speaker 8: to Louisville on Friday night.

1885
01:18:38,240 --> 01:18:39,920
Speaker 3: Uh Andy, who do you blame?

1886
01:18:40,560 --> 01:18:43,280
Speaker 2: Well, obviously, Louisville did a great job on him.

1887
01:18:43,280 --> 01:18:43,840
Speaker 3: They really did.

1888
01:18:43,920 --> 01:18:46,719
Speaker 2: I mean, I was shocked. I was shot that Louisville

1889
01:18:46,760 --> 01:18:48,360
Speaker 2: did that. I was shocked to the Miami loss. I

1890
01:18:48,360 --> 01:18:50,360
Speaker 2: thought Miami. Right now, he is probably gonna dip in

1891
01:18:50,400 --> 01:18:52,640
Speaker 2: the ratings, but you know, I think that he was

1892
01:18:52,680 --> 01:18:54,519
Speaker 2: gonna get Heisman votes. I don't know if he's gonna

1893
01:18:54,760 --> 01:18:57,160
Speaker 2: win the Heisman. I think the quarterback of Vanderbilts gonna

1894
01:18:57,160 --> 01:18:59,160
Speaker 2: shot right now. I'm the Heisman posy.

1895
01:18:58,840 --> 01:19:02,160
Speaker 4: As the quarterback at Oklahoma is hot. He's like one

1896
01:19:02,160 --> 01:19:05,120
Speaker 4: of my most favorite players really Oklahomah. Yeah, I think

1897
01:19:05,200 --> 01:19:07,400
Speaker 4: he's into good running for the Heisman too. I think

1898
01:19:07,479 --> 01:19:08,200
Speaker 4: so one hundred.

1899
01:19:09,320 --> 01:19:12,040
Speaker 3: I think I think Vanderbilt Vanderbilt could be I love

1900
01:19:12,120 --> 01:19:13,120
Speaker 3: the kid at Oklahoma.

1901
01:19:13,120 --> 01:19:16,080
Speaker 2: I think I think that was great. Yeah you got

1902
01:19:16,120 --> 01:19:16,639
Speaker 2: it anymore?

1903
01:19:17,160 --> 01:19:19,880
Speaker 8: Yes, Alvic Smara and Chris o'lave have made it very

1904
01:19:20,000 --> 01:19:22,719
Speaker 8: clear they want to stay in New Orleans after multiple

1905
01:19:22,800 --> 01:19:23,479
Speaker 8: trade rumors.

1906
01:19:23,920 --> 01:19:26,679
Speaker 3: Alex, who do you blame? I probably blamed the NFL

1907
01:19:26,880 --> 01:19:27,920
Speaker 3: rumor ecosystem.

1908
01:19:28,280 --> 01:19:33,000
Speaker 4: It's messy, it's it's filthy, it's a mix of media, fans, spectations.

1909
01:19:33,240 --> 01:19:35,519
Speaker 3: I hate it, and uh, that's who I blame. No,

1910
01:19:35,600 --> 01:19:37,559
Speaker 3: I blame the food, the Cajun food. That's why they

1911
01:19:37,600 --> 01:19:39,280
Speaker 3: want to stay down there. They must love it. There's

1912
01:19:39,280 --> 01:19:39,680
Speaker 3: got to be a.

1913
01:19:39,680 --> 01:19:41,640
Speaker 2: Reason why they can't be THEO, they can't be the

1914
01:19:41,680 --> 01:19:44,280
Speaker 2: football team they stay. Why else would you want to

1915
01:19:44,320 --> 01:19:44,560
Speaker 2: stay in?

1916
01:19:44,800 --> 01:19:45,040
Speaker 10: Really?

1917
01:19:45,160 --> 01:19:47,320
Speaker 3: Why else would you want to stay in New Orleans? Really?

1918
01:19:47,479 --> 01:19:50,720
Speaker 2: Tell me that's loyalty, that loyalty there. Maybe they've got

1919
01:19:50,760 --> 01:19:51,720
Speaker 2: a restaurant there. I don't know.

1920
01:19:52,040 --> 01:19:54,559
Speaker 3: Hey, it's great. I loved having you here today. Did

1921
01:19:54,600 --> 01:19:55,080
Speaker 3: a great job.

1922
01:19:55,080 --> 01:19:55,720
Speaker 2: Thank you for having me.

1923
01:19:55,760 --> 01:19:58,000
Speaker 3: I'll be here in the three Mike Harmon, Greg.

1924
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Speaker 2: Co Sell next, right here on Fox Sports. Right here,

1925
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Speaker 2: ohk