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Speaker 1: Or Welcome to the radio home of Ron and Anian

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Speaker 1: a fun farewell. It's the Great Betty White. Rest in

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Speaker 1: Here's Rod. Hey, let's get out to Illinois and talk

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Speaker 1: to Ted thirty willis coop ted. Welcome to the Car Doctice, Sir,

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Speaker 1: Happy new Year, how can I help? Hey? Happy new

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Speaker 1: And you're gonna run everything a little bit harder, right,

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Speaker 1: don't go anywhere, Ted, I'm running any of the car. Doctor.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back running in the card Doctor. Let's get back

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Speaker 1: to Ted in Illinois. Ted, you're still there? Yeah, there

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Speaker 1: here's what I've got, all right, I need a wiring

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Speaker 1: Will that will give you? That will surely show you

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Speaker 1: What do you need to see? And and that's that's

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Speaker 1: You know where strattle angle? Where's you know the first

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Speaker 1: That bothers me. You know, it's got it's it's it's

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Speaker 1: Why don't you here do this? Why don't you disconnect

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Speaker 1: you know the authority that it has is it's it's

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Speaker 1: mostly a sphenometer input and not necessarily a trans shift

426
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Speaker 1: point input. Right well, I don't have a pendometer work

427
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Speaker 1: against I don't even know about that. Let let me

428
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Speaker 1: let me ask you one quick questions. If the converse

429
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Speaker 1: is not locking up, would I get a code on

430
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Speaker 1: the on the computers telling me that it's not locking

431
00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:10,919
Speaker 1: up or that there's a problem. Is all the wiring

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Speaker 1: correct and intact and all the signal inputs there on

433
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Speaker 1: this vehicle? So you don't know the answer to that question? Yeah,

434
00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:22,000
Speaker 1: well is it? Well? Does the trans operate? Right? Well, no,

435
00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:27,240
Speaker 1: we've already now that. If if you look at the manuals,

436
00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:29,560
Speaker 1: you know what for rear wheel drive and front wheel drive.

437
00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:33,800
Speaker 1: All the functions on the on the transmission wiring, the

438
00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:37,919
Speaker 1: thirteen wires on the transmission are all the same until

439
00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:42,320
Speaker 1: you get down to the last three wires, and the

440
00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:47,000
Speaker 1: last three wires are h well, that that three too.

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Speaker 1: For the front For the rear wheel drive transmission, it's

442
00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:56,280
Speaker 1: it's three two downshift, TCC enable solenoid and TCCPWM solenoid

443
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Speaker 1: control drive. On the front wheel drive the TCP W

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00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:07,879
Speaker 1: you know, power with modulations, so only control is the

445
00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:10,520
Speaker 1: t wire And on the rear wheel drives you wire.

446
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:14,320
Speaker 1: So I switched those two. So you know, I don't know.

447
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Speaker 1: Maybe I've done some things that I shouldn't have done,

448
00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:20,280
Speaker 1: but until listen to me, Ted, what you've done to

449
00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:24,040
Speaker 1: this point is admirable. Don't beat yourself up. You need

450
00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:26,119
Speaker 1: to find somebody that can break out and say you

451
00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:28,600
Speaker 1: need this, this, this, this, and this based on this

452
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Speaker 1: particular trends to me. The best guy that's gonna do

453
00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:35,720
Speaker 1: that is either a tuner a tuner, a tuner by definition,

454
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:38,880
Speaker 1: someone that's writing software to do what you wanted to do,

455
00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:42,679
Speaker 1: or a company like Painless that will say here's the

456
00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:46,040
Speaker 1: wiring harness, here's the two computers, this is what's gonna

457
00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:48,600
Speaker 1: make it work, and this is what's gonna give you.

458
00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:53,320
Speaker 1: We know this is a tried, true configuration. And then

459
00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:56,200
Speaker 1: when it doesn't work and you've got all those inputs

460
00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:58,520
Speaker 1: and signals now you've got a problem in the trends.

461
00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:00,040
Speaker 1: But that's the only way I think you're gonn to

462
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Speaker 1: get there. That's the only way I think you're gonna

463
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Speaker 1: get there, So just think about it. Give me a

464
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:08,719
Speaker 1: call back if you need more. Zero, Let's pull over

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Speaker 1: and take a pause. The Car Doctor's back right after this.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back on any of the Car Doctor, Zo Zero.

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Speaker 1: Let's get over to Stephen, Wisconsin eighteen Chevy Silverado, Steve.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Car Doctor. How can I help? Hey, Um,

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00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:40,239
Speaker 1: I'm so glad to get on your show. I've been

470
00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:42,959
Speaker 1: at it before, and every time I have you've helped me.

471
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:46,919
Speaker 1: And but this is a puzzler, So I'm gonna make

472
00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:52,320
Speaker 1: my long story as short as possible. Okay. It started

473
00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:57,520
Speaker 1: and follow um when I moved to Arizona and I

474
00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:00,480
Speaker 1: had a short drive to work where and I would

475
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:04,720
Speaker 1: drive to work if I parked it. And when I

476
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,639
Speaker 1: said a short drive about twenty minutes when I parked it,

477
00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:10,760
Speaker 1: um and going to work for eight hours cold, it

478
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,600
Speaker 1: was fine. But if I drolled the twenty minutes and

479
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:16,080
Speaker 1: parked it and walked away from the truck and came

480
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:22,600
Speaker 1: back a minute later, they wouldn't start, and at first,

481
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:25,520
Speaker 1: I'm like, what's going on? And then after about five

482
00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:27,920
Speaker 1: minutes it started up. I'm like, okay, so there must

483
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:30,240
Speaker 1: have been a freak thing. Well, it happened again. So

484
00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker 1: I took it to my Chevy dealership because it was

485
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:37,040
Speaker 1: still under warranty. They couldn't reproduce it until I told them,

486
00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:39,480
Speaker 1: you got to drive it until the engine really gets

487
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:41,960
Speaker 1: hot and then shut it off and tried to start it.

488
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:45,200
Speaker 1: So they did that. They got it to reproduce it,

489
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:48,200
Speaker 1: you know. The tech came back, got out, went in,

490
00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:50,280
Speaker 1: pulled a cup of coffee, he said, he walked back out,

491
00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:53,040
Speaker 1: wouldn't start. They scanned it and it came up with

492
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 1: cords for the fuse box. So they changed out some

493
00:26:56,480 --> 00:27:00,600
Speaker 1: relays that didn't do it um, you know, and they said,

494
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:02,119
Speaker 1: because we got it. So I took it home and

495
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 1: dinner again, so I brought it back in. So then

496
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 1: they changed out the whole fuse box. At that point

497
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:10,440
Speaker 1: they knew what to do. So every time they'd reproduce

498
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:14,560
Speaker 1: it after that, it wouldn't throw any codes and they

499
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 1: and they just had one of their texts to start

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00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:19,920
Speaker 1: working on it, trying to fix it. They like I said,

501
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 1: they changed out some relays, they changed out the fuse

502
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:27,400
Speaker 1: box under the hood, they changed out the starter, they

503
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 1: changed out at one other times when they were trying

504
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:33,320
Speaker 1: to restart it, it started. But in one of the

505
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:35,679
Speaker 1: text other tests was fuck him with things in in

506
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:38,399
Speaker 1: the the engine block. And he's like, I was playing

507
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:40,560
Speaker 1: with the negative battery cable. That's what the problem is.

508
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:43,600
Speaker 1: So they changed that out. Now it just had reached

509
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:46,560
Speaker 1: that point where it would start again. So let me

510
00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 1: ask let me ask you, is this a when you

511
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 1: say it won't start hot, it doesn't crank, You turn

512
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 1: the key and nothing happens exactly exactly. It acts just

513
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:00,480
Speaker 1: like a starter fail. Where you turn in the key,

514
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:02,800
Speaker 1: it doesn't make a sound, the life will come on

515
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 1: on the dash and and it doesn't. It doesn't start.

516
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:13,040
Speaker 1: And if I found that, um if and I'm not

517
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:15,480
Speaker 1: sure if it's true, if it's just my mind playing tricks,

518
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:17,920
Speaker 1: but if I sit there like every minute and sit

519
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:21,240
Speaker 1: there and turn the key, it won't start. I've got

520
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 1: to walk away from the truck. I've got to leave

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00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 1: the key alone. It's gotta do its thing, and then

522
00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 1: it restarts after five to seven minutes. I've only had

523
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:33,640
Speaker 1: it once where it got to like fifteen minutes. I'm like, oh,

524
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,080
Speaker 1: this is it. It's finally broke. So I called the

525
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:39,000
Speaker 1: tow truck and then they were on their way, and

526
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 1: then I tried it and started, so I canceled a

527
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:46,000
Speaker 1: toe truck. So this is all happening down in Arizona,

528
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 1: and I moved back to Wisconsin. Um, my warranty ran

529
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:54,200
Speaker 1: out in June, and my my Chevy dealership worked on

530
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 1: it from fall of all the way until the day

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Speaker 1: I left, and they never got it resolved. And it's

532
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 1: I'm actual Wisconsin. It's um you can tell you your

533
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 1: time that it just got the ten degrees here, so

534
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:09,720
Speaker 1: it's got single digits anymore. Um you got you got

535
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:13,200
Speaker 1: a pencil and a piece of paper, Stevie before the

536
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 1: clock takes me. Yes, okay. So I want you to

537
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:21,960
Speaker 1: get your hands on GM information, preliminary information. It's a

538
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 1: GM bulletin that talks about splice J three O eight

539
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 1: in the left door sill J J three O eight.

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00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 1: There's a splice in the wiring harness and the left

541
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 1: door sill. That's real common. It's known to go bed,

542
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 1: it's known to fail, and they've got issues with it.

543
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:42,920
Speaker 1: PIT fifty three one talks about how the what the

544
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:46,440
Speaker 1: possible repair is. I think the last version of that,

545
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 1: that particular bulletin was PIT E or F. I think

546
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 1: there was an F out because it's had so many

547
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 1: variations and so many current listings for it. Because this

548
00:29:56,760 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 1: is a this is a no crank, no start condition. Yeah,

549
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:02,160
Speaker 1: the first thing I would do is I plug in

550
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 1: a scan tool. There should be a starter enabled PIT

551
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 1: on the scan tool, meaning that when you put the

552
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 1: car and crank, you should see that change from no

553
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,720
Speaker 1: to yes. Because the computer is looking at command state

554
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:16,760
Speaker 1: of the ignition switch decide is the starter being commanded

555
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,720
Speaker 1: to operate, and then it will. It will ground the relay,

556
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:22,680
Speaker 1: close the relay circuit for the starter relay, and apply

557
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:26,240
Speaker 1: the starter to let it crank. The computer, the computer

558
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:29,360
Speaker 1: is watching ignition switch to decide what to do with

559
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:32,480
Speaker 1: the relay to control the starter. The computer is the

560
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 1: brains of the operation here. They've actually turned it over

561
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:37,240
Speaker 1: to it. It's not a straight shot right from the

562
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 1: ignition switch itself. But I understand that. But then why

563
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:44,640
Speaker 1: is this? You know? Why is it like if I feel,

564
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 1: like I said to Tim, if I drive it for

565
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:49,240
Speaker 1: one minute and get out. It's fine. It's once it

566
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:52,880
Speaker 1: gets to temp. If I stopped, and if I if

567
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:57,000
Speaker 1: I drew up to your studio and parted, shut it off,

568
00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 1: went to start it again, it won't start. You ever

569
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:02,480
Speaker 1: see you ever see the effects of corrosion on resistance

570
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 1: in the way it raises the temperature of an electrical connection.

571
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,960
Speaker 1: I've seen the effects of corrosion, but I don't understand

572
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 1: about how it raises the temperature. Well, you're you're If

573
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 1: you've got a bad connection when it's cold, it's gonna

574
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 1: it could have a different contact point, or a different connectivity,

575
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 1: or a different ability to flow current than when it's warm.

576
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 1: So that's why it's only this particular bulletin is strictly

577
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 1: a no crank hot condition. How come? How come sceer?

578
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 1: I mean that, I don't know. Everybody always asked me

579
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 1: that question. I don't know. Isn't it enough that I

580
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:40,480
Speaker 1: gave you the bulletin to go look at? Now? Come on,

581
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 1: let's let's play fair. Well, I understand, and I'm not

582
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 1: saying I'm right, but it's just one of the first

583
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 1: things I do. Listen, one of the first things I

584
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 1: do in any diagnosis. I probably spend forty five minutes

585
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 1: each and every time just reading. I don't have all

586
00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:58,840
Speaker 1: the answers. I have to read a lot, but I

587
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:04,239
Speaker 1: just remember everything. So this left door still yeah, and

588
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:09,760
Speaker 1: that and that and that it's getting hot by flowing current.

589
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 1: One will show them the exact location. You know, they're

590
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 1: gonna look at it and go, oh yeah, that bulletin

591
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:20,479
Speaker 1: you watch. Call me back next week. I'll be here.

592
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 1: I've got no place else to go. You'd be well,

593
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 1: thanks Steven, Happy New Year to you. I'm ron An,

594
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 1: the car doctor. Isn't it enough that I told you

595
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 1: where to look? I can think of another dealership that

596
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 1: can't fix a car, but we're not gonna talk about

597
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:34,719
Speaker 1: that yet until Tom asks me. I'll be back right

598
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 1: after this. Don't go away. So what's this about a

599
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 1: another dealership they can't fix the car? Well, I'm not

600
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:49,960
Speaker 1: really gonna well you really want me to talk? By

601
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 1: the way, Hi, it's Ron and Ninian. We're back. Um, yes,

602
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:54,959
Speaker 1: why not? Well, you know what Steve was talking about

603
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:58,480
Speaker 1: kind of stuck in my head. Listen, my wife's cars

604
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,200
Speaker 1: still at the Ford dealer, all right now, It's been

605
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 1: there off and on six. I think it's seven times

606
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 1: now since February. Listen to this story, Tom, since February

607
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 1: of twenty, it's almost two years. It started at eighteen

608
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:16,480
Speaker 1: thousand miles. It came out of bumper to bumper warranty

609
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:20,959
Speaker 1: in August of last year. So now, the answer I

610
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 1: got from Ford Tech Support, because now it's beyond the

611
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 1: dealer tech it's at for technical support was we think

612
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 1: it's a display board and a connection cable. Now, well, warranty,

613
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 1: the display board under your extended warranty, but we're only

614
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:38,280
Speaker 1: going to charge you fifty one for the cable. And

615
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 1: I went, what, Um, listen like Steve who just called

616
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 1: with his Silverado, As far as I'm concerned, that vehicle

617
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 1: is still under warranty, they haven't fixed it yet. They

618
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:51,600
Speaker 1: haven't fixed her card. Right, problem started while it was

619
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:54,960
Speaker 1: in warranty, that's right, and it's a continuous ongoing thing.

620
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 1: And I explained that to the my I now have

621
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 1: a customer service rep for Jenny. UM. Jenny doesn't like

622
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 1: me so much this week because I finally told her

623
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 1: who I was and what I was and and I

624
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 1: hate doing that, I really do. I hate pulling the

625
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 1: radio card you know, because she was like, well, you know,

626
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:14,399
Speaker 1: it's only and I said, listen, I said, you guys

627
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 1: can do whatever you want. I said, but understand, this

628
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:19,759
Speaker 1: is in the media spotlight. This has a spotlight on

629
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 1: it right now for a car you guys can't fix

630
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:24,800
Speaker 1: in across a hundred and thirty five plus affiliates and

631
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:28,480
Speaker 1: seven hundred thousand podcast downloads. And about three days later,

632
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 1: I got the phone call. Now, I'm Mr Innanian, I'm

633
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:33,719
Speaker 1: not rown anymore. Mr Nanian. We're gonna fix your car,

634
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:35,719
Speaker 1: and you know we're gonna cover all yeah, kind of,

635
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:37,440
Speaker 1: But why do you Why does it come to that?

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Speaker 1: Why can't a guy like Steve from Wisconsin that just

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Speaker 1: called us, why can't he get that kind of support

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Speaker 1: and service? And that's what I hate about this industry

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Speaker 1: that nobody wants to take responsibility fix the damn car.

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Speaker 1: It's just that simple. There's a reason. Take the time

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Speaker 1: and figure it out. You got me all excited now, Tom,

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Speaker 1: it's I gotta calm down. I wanna pull over and

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Speaker 1: taking pause. Watch I'm gonna go away at the end

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Speaker 1: of this hour. And I'm okay, you got me, Tom,

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Speaker 1: I'll wrought Anni in the car doc you're reminding you

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Speaker 1: Each and every car can be fixed. It just tastes

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Speaker 1: good mechanics, and there's always good Mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless.

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Speaker 1: See your baby,