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Speaker 1: one issue with Lamar Jackson as a person, as a leader,

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Speaker 1: of course you have. I bet it says five six years,

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Speaker 1: that's not happening right now. So you can be mad,

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Speaker 1: zero sense for the Arizona Cardinals to pay him right now.

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Speaker 1: And he's gonna get mad. And you want to hear

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Speaker 1: my prediction, but he if he doesn't get paid this offseason,

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Speaker 1: I just knew she was married as rocker. But it's

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Speaker 1: that was good but not it was solid. It was

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Speaker 1: it was solid, it was entertaining watch. I actually watched

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Speaker 1: the first episode and I'm like, I read this Rolling

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Speaker 1: Stones article that I think they must have just written

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Speaker 1: the show off the Rolling Stones article. It was, it

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Speaker 1: was good, it was it was entertaining. The dude and

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Speaker 1: the girl they played. Tommy and Pam like pulled it

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Speaker 1: off pretty well. But if you're younger and listening to this,

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Speaker 1: like in your early mid twenties, I know we've got

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Speaker 1: some guys in college. I don't think you can comprehend

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Speaker 1: how big that tape was. I really don't, and really

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Speaker 1: how big she was because there are so many like

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Speaker 1: I fall, so many listening you just check out who

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Speaker 1: I'm following Instagram. It's like, you know, following a lot

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Speaker 1: of people. I don't know any these women what they're

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Speaker 1: doing Instagram, models, Instagram whatever. They're not actually that big.

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Speaker 1: I mean they got ten million followers, five million followers. Whatever.

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Speaker 1: She was, I mean massive, massive, and that tape was huge.

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Speaker 1: Baywatch was a big deal, you know, I mean, we

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Speaker 1: I love Watch, I love that opening, that opening song,

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Speaker 1: hassle off, great show. I mean, it was a really

446
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Speaker 1: good joke. But she was. She was a big deal.

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Speaker 1: Kind of like the combine And really what's a big

448
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Speaker 1: deal at the combine is like this week, this draft

449
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Speaker 1: a little week. It just especially at the top. This

450
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Speaker 1: week is actually not as much about the draft as

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Speaker 1: you think because the kids are going there, they're gonna

452
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Speaker 1: get their medical and you get fifteen minutes with them,

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Speaker 1: but really it's speed dating. You're not gonna gain that

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Speaker 1: much from your interview with them. Now you and argue

455
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Speaker 1: first impressions, and they matter. Maybe, you know, the scouts

456
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Speaker 1: have usually met most of the guys, maybe not some

457
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Speaker 1: of the underclassmen, but it's gonna be the first time

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Speaker 1: many of the gms and all the head coaches are

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Speaker 1: gonna meet these guys. Now, as you see, not all

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Speaker 1: the head coaches are going. Sean mcveigh's out. Peter Schraeger wrote,

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Speaker 1: a couple of coaches are out. I wouldn't be shocked

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Speaker 1: that that's Lafleur and Kyle Shanahan. Now, ultimately, this is

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Speaker 1: not a head coaches job. The job of this week

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Speaker 1: is your GM to gather information on these guys, more

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Speaker 1: information and really your contract guy, whether that's your GM

466
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Speaker 1: or whether that's separate, to to find out what the

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Speaker 1: agents of what's gonna cost for free agency and trades.

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Speaker 1: That's a huge part of this week is gathering intel

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Speaker 1: on what players and free agency are going to cost,

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Speaker 1: what your own free agents to retain them are going

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Speaker 1: to cost. That is this week. And also there's a

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Speaker 1: curveball because we have potential. You know, Deshaun Watson, could

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Speaker 1: Russell Wilson get traded. You know people sniffing around as

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady for sure retired. Like that is all going

475
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Speaker 1: on this week because the free agency. I'm recording this

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Speaker 1: on the seventeen, so you're talking seventeen days away, and

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Speaker 1: really that quote unquote uh whatever it's called. Those first

478
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Speaker 1: couple of days where you're legally allowed to tamper like

479
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:25,560
Speaker 1: it's it's two weeks away. The draft is two months away.

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Speaker 1: You got time to interview. This is all about the

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Speaker 1: NFL players, or at least a large percentage of it

482
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Speaker 1: is because all these guys, whether they work out or

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Speaker 1: not on the field, they have a pro day so

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Speaker 1: you get to see them work out again. So I

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Speaker 1: really believe that this week the number one thing that

486
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Speaker 1: all these gms are doing is trying to find out

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Speaker 1: about the players in the league. All these teams with

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Speaker 1: new coaches, the Miami Dolphins, the Minnesota Vikings, Like, hey,

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Speaker 1: would you like to trade so and so? Hey is

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Speaker 1: Harrison Smith? Could he be had? Hey would you give

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Speaker 1: us I don't even I was gonna say, I don't

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Speaker 1: even know who that Giants have that's worth a ship,

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Speaker 1: But you know what I mean, asking and sniffing around

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Speaker 1: all these teams, and then other players that you know

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Speaker 1: might be available, doing your due deal and shann those

496
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:14,480
Speaker 1: talking with other gms, talking with the agents, and gathering

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Speaker 1: the market value of these players so you can come

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Speaker 1: back next week and really have a plan of attack. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: you go to the combine with the plan of attack

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00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:26,160
Speaker 1: but you don't have all the information. And then once

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00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:28,040
Speaker 1: you get to the combine as a GM, as a

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00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:31,760
Speaker 1: contract negotiator, as an assistant GM, you start gathering intel

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Speaker 1: and then you start putting the piece of the puzzle. Well, hey,

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Speaker 1: it's gonna cost us this much for Stephan Gilmour, if

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Speaker 1: we wanted to trade for this guy, it's gonna cost

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Speaker 1: us a second round pick if we want to get

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Speaker 1: to Shaun Watson. This is what they're asking, right. You

508
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Speaker 1: just start going down the checklist, obviously depending on the team,

509
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:49,399
Speaker 1: but hey, Russell wants to do this. Hey Aaron Rodgers

510
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Speaker 1: is leaning this way, and it dictates the way you

511
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Speaker 1: think an approach, you know, really the next two months

512
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Speaker 1: and then you start kind of figuring out what's on

513
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Speaker 1: the draft. Do we need to sign Stephon Gilmore when

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Speaker 1: there's four corners that we can draft in the first

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Speaker 1: couple of rounds. That's what you're doing, and you know,

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Speaker 1: it's a cool part. It's a long week, and it's

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Speaker 1: a week where you get to go out and have

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Speaker 1: a good time, but you also are putting in a

519
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Speaker 1: lot of time. And the guys that are laser focused

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00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:19,639
Speaker 1: and the guys that are separating themselves, like it's one

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Speaker 1: thing like Mike Vrabel and the coach is going out

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Speaker 1: and getting blasted whatever. Who cares, They don't. This is

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Speaker 1: not there. This is John Robinson's time to shine. This

524
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 1: is John Lynch and you know you just go Howie Roseman,

525
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,719
Speaker 1: Joe Shane used to go around all the gms, Mickey Loomis,

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Speaker 1: it's their time to figure everything out. Really, this is

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Speaker 1: kind of a coach screw around time. This is this

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Speaker 1: is what the gms get paid for this next week.

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Speaker 1: This is what all the scouts get paid for. Uh

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Speaker 1: And obviously, like the college players do matter and this

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Speaker 1: is part of the puzzle, but it's to me a

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00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:53,960
Speaker 1: pretty small puzzle. The medical stuff, but that is the

533
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 1: team's your your doctors and trainers do all that stuff

534
00:28:57,960 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 1: right the way in and stuff. You're just standing there.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna ge the information no matter what, and you

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Speaker 1: get the video. So I this is this is really

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546
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Speaker 1: the league and hit on a couple of stories that

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00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:47,600
Speaker 1: happened over the last three or four days. Sean McVeigh

548
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 1: turned out a hundred million dollars to go to TV.

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00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 1: I've said for a while he's gonna make twenty million

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Speaker 1: dollars a year coach in the Ramps. He has Matt

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00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 1: Stafford in his prime, like he's thirty six. He doesn

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Speaker 1: enough kids yet he's hell, he's not even getting married

553
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Speaker 1: to the summer, like now is the time to pounds

554
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Speaker 1: these next three or four years, make your twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: million dollars coaching for the Rams, try to win another chip,

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Speaker 1: become an absolute legend. Television, Amazon, Fox, ESPN. None of

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00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:20,640
Speaker 1: these teams places are going anywhere. You're only going to

558
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 1: get more valuable the more games you win, and your

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00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,560
Speaker 1: team is loaded. Your owner is willing to pay any

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Speaker 1: amount of money to win. Right decision, Stay in coaching,

561
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Speaker 1: like you might burn out because when you get up

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00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 1: at four am and you work till you know, nine

563
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:39,960
Speaker 1: ten o'clock at night, it's hard. But John Gruden ended

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Speaker 1: up on television because he was fired, not because he

565
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 1: left Damn Bay Buccaneers to go to ESPN. He got

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Speaker 1: run out of town. Sean McVeigh not only not run

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Speaker 1: out of town. If Sean McVeigh was available tomorrow, do

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Speaker 1: you know how many teams would fire their coach to

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Speaker 1: hire Sean McVeigh. Like Sean, it's it's as good as

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Speaker 1: it gets right now, and he knows that now. It's

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Speaker 1: when you when you work as hard as he does,

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Speaker 1: and he's already made as much money as he has,

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Speaker 1: and he got to be a head coach so early.

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Speaker 1: I get, you know, thinking, like how can I understand

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Speaker 1: him not going to the combine this week. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: spend time around my wife. I want to spend some

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00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 1: time around my new coaches. You know, we we just

578
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 1: finished playing a couple of weeks ago. You don't need

579
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Speaker 1: to go to the the company. Don't even any picks, as

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00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 1: Lessniz says, f them picks. Lebron James loves it. It's like, hey, Lebron.

581
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 1: Your team sucks, maybe you should use some of those picks.

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Speaker 1: But you know, John Lynch, same thing turned down Amazon.

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Speaker 1: You know why John Lynch has worked in TV like

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Speaker 1: Sean McVeigh already rich now John was rich before Sean

585
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Speaker 1: McVeigh was rich. But you become a legend in football

586
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 1: unless you're John Madden. You don't become a legend on TV.

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00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 1: You become a legend by winning a super Bowl like

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Speaker 1: Sean McVeigh. Did you become a legend like John Lynch.

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00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,200
Speaker 1: If Trey Lance is sweet and you want to super

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00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 1: Bowl ship with the Kyle Shanahan and Trey Lance, that

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00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 1: you can always go back to TV. And I think

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Speaker 1: these guys John knows it because he would have to

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Speaker 1: go back Sean or I mean, he's already been there.

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Speaker 1: The right people talk to Sean and he made the

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Speaker 1: right decision. Tough it out a couple more years with

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Speaker 1: Matt Stafford, three or four years, trying to just accumulate wins,

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Speaker 1: give yourself a chance to win championships, because that's where

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Speaker 1: you're at right now. You're you're in a window with

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Speaker 1: a franchise, willing to do everything. The other story is

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Speaker 1: Kirk herb Street. They're Amazon sniffing around. He has been

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Speaker 1: on game day and done college football. Now, you know

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Speaker 1: since I was in high school. I'm thirty seven and bald.

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00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 1: Now here's what I would say to Herbie. You have

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Speaker 1: done some of the sweetest college football games. You've done

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Speaker 1: the Rose Bowl, You've done national championships, You've done game days.

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Speaker 1: You have done everything humanly possible to do in college sports.

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00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 1: This is kind of a retirement gig. If they'd give

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Speaker 1: you five years or six years, a hundred million dollars.

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Speaker 1: Do you know how much easier the NFL is then college. Now,

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Speaker 1: obviously if he need Amazon Thursday night game, it's not

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Speaker 1: the greatest games. But in college, even if you're doing

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00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 1: Penn State Michigan, you don't know every player in that roster.

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Speaker 1: You have to do a lot of work preparing for

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Speaker 1: that game. In the NFL, there's only fifty three guys

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00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:23,959
Speaker 1: on the team. In college, there's a hundred and twenty.

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Speaker 1: The turnover in the NFL, for the most part, the

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Speaker 1: star players and star players. You're gonna know the quarterbacks,

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Speaker 1: You're gonna know who the coaches are. You're gonna have

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Speaker 1: a baseline of information. Now You could argue Herbi just

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Speaker 1: doing college football so long as some but still the

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Speaker 1: NFL is easier. You don't ever have to get up

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Speaker 1: on Saturday morning do game day again. Let's face it,

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Speaker 1: Lee Corso, God love him, is hanging on by a

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Speaker 1: thread right now, and clearly that means a lot to Herbie.

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Speaker 1: Herbie loves that guy. But maybe it's time like to

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Speaker 1: just go your separate ways. If they're offering you a

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Speaker 1: ton of money, my recommendation would be I would do that.

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Speaker 1: I would do the NFL. You've done everything possible in

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Speaker 1: the college level, and you've done it at a really

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Speaker 1: high level. I was thinking about this weekend. The ESPN

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Speaker 1: has been very, very lucky in college sports. Jay Billis

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Speaker 1: has been calling basketball games with Dicky V, those two

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Speaker 1: guys analysts for a long period of time, and they're

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Speaker 1: both really, really good. Obviously, Dicky V's battling cancer right now,

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Speaker 1: but I was watching j Billis. He called the KU

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Speaker 1: But if I'm Herb Street, my recommendation would be to leave.

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Speaker 1: And I love college football. The Browns clearly got some

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Speaker 1: general manager. He had some cryptic tweets, like, you know,

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Speaker 1: they asked him to take a pay cut. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: It feels like it's about to get weird. They're they're

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Speaker 1: ten million dollars a year. He's a really, really talented guy.

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Speaker 1: I saw a headline. Of course Baker Mayfields had a

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Speaker 1: a take there. Five international games, we got three London games.

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Speaker 1: clearly be one of the best teams in the League.

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Speaker 1: Usually they send the Jets, the Jags, the Dolphins, just

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Speaker 1: really really shitty teams football team. But five international games,

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Speaker 1: Cardinals going to Mexico, who one of the guys, Matt

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Speaker 1: Remember a couple of years ago when Money in Football

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Speaker 1: then they had that epic game. O T rules. All

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Speaker 1: to try, I'm cool with that too. It's just not

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Speaker 1: something that I'm very passionate about. I'm just being honest.

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Speaker 1: I truly do not care if they change it again.

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Speaker 1: I'm all for it. I'm into whatever they're into because

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Speaker 1: so far it's it hasn't bothered me. Now, you know,

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Speaker 1: I haven't seen a team that I rooted for lose poorly,

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Speaker 1: that badly that way. I haven't been on the wrong

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Speaker 1: side of a gambling bet. So yeah, I mean I

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Speaker 1: maybe I would think differently if I had. I understand

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Speaker 1: Bills fans being piste off. I understand fans of a

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Speaker 1: team that have been on the wrong side being angry.

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Speaker 1: It's understand endable. I just don't fall into that category,

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Speaker 1: but it clearly is changing. Florio wrote that Stephen Ross

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Speaker 1: wanted Sean Payton and Tom Brady uh to be his

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Speaker 1: I want to marry a supermodel, like we all can dream.

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Speaker 1: What is this guy? Someone needs to tell Steven Ross,

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Speaker 1: like this guy is living in La La Land. Okay,

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Speaker 1: let's banging out a couple of Middleoff mail bag questions

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Speaker 1: if you got golf questions, slide in there. If you've

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Speaker 1: Just watch the icon doc off your recommendation, great stuff,

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Speaker 1: carl I con Man, DU's Gordon Geko. I recommend Class

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Speaker 1: Action Park, my favorite hidden gym. I watched it last year,

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Speaker 1: HBO Max check that out. Question for the mail back.

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Speaker 1: A lot out of chatter around the Niner quarterbacks, speculation situation,

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Speaker 1: for Jimmy g But if it's not with the Niners,

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Speaker 1: on the Super Bowl window. Well, we talked about on

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Speaker 1: my other podcast today, Trey Lance would be the number

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Speaker 1: one pick in this draft. I had an executive on

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Speaker 1: another team tell me that unequivocally, he's like Bro he

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Speaker 1: went third in a way better draft. He's a super

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Speaker 1: high character, physically gifted, high ceiling guy. I mean, Malik Willis,

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Speaker 1: who is not even close to as good as Tray

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Speaker 1: Lance is, gonna go in the first round. Probably Tray

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Speaker 1: Lance would be the number one overall pick in this draft.

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Speaker 1: Forty Niners are drafting twenty nine. I keep Tray Lance,

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Speaker 1: I trade Jimmy Garoppolo, and I just I coach him up.

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Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan just coaches us up. Make him into a

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Speaker 1: sweet player. You know, I think that is the goal. Here.

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Speaker 1: Here's the other thing. Part of what is sweet about

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Speaker 1: having a young quarterback is there cheap. They're cheap, so

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Speaker 1: you get rid of Jimmy Garoppolo's twenty seven million dollars.

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Speaker 1: You get to go mess with and tray on the costumes.

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Speaker 1: Six or seven TV show recommendations. Reacher I watched, didn't

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Speaker 1: really love City on a on a Hill. Love that show.

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Speaker 1: Ozark's watched Sweet, Peaky Blinders watched Sweet. Isn't the new

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Speaker 1: Peaky Blinders supposed to come out this summer? Ta Taboo

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Speaker 1: F S x f x X Hulu. Tom Hardy explores

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Speaker 1: the darker side of London in the late eighteen hundreds. Uh,

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Speaker 1: it's a lot of recommendations. I think I tried to

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Speaker 1: watch Taboo one time, and Tom Hardy, you know, sometimes

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Speaker 1: like Mumbles or whatever, I wasn't really feeling it. A

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Speaker 1: lot of people like Jack Reacher, I'll be honest, and

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Speaker 1: that's what I grew up on. I like will Bruce

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Speaker 1: Reacher was terrible. I thought it was really cheesy. One

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Speaker 1: take I have on Amazon primes content for their having

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Speaker 1: the second richest man in the world. I feel most

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Speaker 1: of their contents like second rate. Like you watch the

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Speaker 1: content on Hulu or Netflix. They're good stuff. It's like

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Speaker 1: high end. Jack Reacher feels like something I could shoot.

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Speaker 1: Maybe I'm a hater. I don't know. Kanye West dooc

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Speaker 1: and all the inside on everything. I'm from the Pacific

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Speaker 1: Northwest and a huge Seahawks fan. I'm under the impression

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Speaker 1: that the Seahawks have hit their ceiling with Russell and

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Speaker 1: it would be best to move on. They have won

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Speaker 1: three playoff games in the past six seasons, kind of

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Speaker 1: a crazy stat. Now, you guys have been to the

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Speaker 1: playoffs a lot, though Russell has been a big part

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Speaker 1: of that. I know we have been spoiled for the

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Speaker 1: past eight years, but I think it's time to move on.

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Speaker 1: Thought us, here's my problem. If you're John Schnyder, how

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Speaker 1: do you trade Russell Wilson? Because if you trade Russell

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Speaker 1: Wilson to the Eagles for Jalen Hurts three ones and

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Speaker 1: a two, you still are just not as good. And

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Speaker 1: I've been saying for a while everyone thinks the Seahawks suck.

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Speaker 1: They went three and three in the best division of football.

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Speaker 1: They swept the forty Niners, swept him one game. They

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Speaker 1: kicked their ass. Actually, they kind of honestly outplayed him

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Speaker 1: in both. Swept the forty Niners. They beat the living

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Speaker 1: piss out of the Cardinals week A team. Russell missed

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Speaker 1: a bunch of games with the injured finger. If you

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Speaker 1: tell me Russell's healthy, I think that. I think Seattle

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Speaker 1: go ten and seven next year. I'd rather go ten

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Speaker 1: and seven with Russell Wilson than seven and ten with

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Speaker 1: all these young draft picks. And Jalen Hurts tell you

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Speaker 1: that much. So I would not trade him unless he

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Speaker 1: tells me he will not play for me. Ever, again,

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Speaker 1: I'd keep the guy. Big fan of the pod. If

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Speaker 1: you're looking for a show to watch, you should really

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Speaker 1: consider Driver Survived Seen It. I should throw a question

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Speaker 1: in the mail bag while I'm at it. Being a

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Speaker 1: Dolphins fan, I seem to have questions all the time.

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Speaker 1: My question, how long of the leash would you give?

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Speaker 1: Two of this season? With a new coach who is

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Speaker 1: offensively minded? A rather well balanced draft class to hopefully

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Speaker 1: round out the roster and the dominant a f C.

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Speaker 1: At what point do you pull the plug? He's getting

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Speaker 1: this entire season. If I might meet Daniel, I build

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Speaker 1: my offense, which is the Shanahan thing around him and

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Speaker 1: my players, and I see what he's got, But I

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Speaker 1: try to see what to has. That's what I do.

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Speaker 1: I want to see the good, bad and the ugly

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Speaker 1: because you have to pick up his fifth year option

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Speaker 1: after this season. If he's bad, you're not picking it

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Speaker 1: up Daniel Jones style. If he shows promise and you

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Speaker 1: would win ten games, maybe you pick it up and

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Speaker 1: you got a quarterback for the next couple of years.

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Speaker 1: But this season, no chance pulling the plug. I think

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Speaker 1: worst case scenario too against the next two years. Best

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Speaker 1: case scenario he gets a second contract, which you know,

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Speaker 1: who knows they got a new coach. I found you

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Speaker 1: a few months ago. Love the content. Now that coaches

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Speaker 1: have been hired, who do you think progresses the most

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Speaker 1: next season? Between Lawrence Wilson, Lance Fields and Mac By

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Speaker 1: the way, I heard you were looking for shows. Strongly

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Speaker 1: recommend Ozark Ozark, Great Show, Great Show, The Chick in

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Speaker 1: that that is an inventing Anna also really good show.

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Speaker 1: I would say Trevor Lawrence should make a dramatic step

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Speaker 1: with Doug Peterson, NFL quarterback offensive coordinator. The offensive coordinator

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Speaker 1: on a team that would do with Belichick coach Carson

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Speaker 1: Wentz and Nick Foles made them both look good. I

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Speaker 1: would say that Trevor Lawrence, who is the most talented

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Speaker 1: of the bunch, should look dramatically better. Fields no clue

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Speaker 1: Zack Wilson. I don't really like Zack Wilson, Mac Jones.

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Speaker 1: He might be as good as we're gonna see. Trey

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Speaker 1: Lance like he hasn't really he has, Unlike those guys,

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Speaker 1: he hasn't played. He played started two games, So I

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Speaker 1: would say Trevor Lawrence, from all the games we saw

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Speaker 1: asters should take the biggest step. Now, Trey Lance did

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Speaker 1: play two games, major project. He should be way better

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Speaker 1: in year two. But he's he hasn't started back to

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Speaker 1: back games, so I wouldn't put him in the categories

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Speaker 1: the other four guys, I guess Zack Wilson, Fields miss

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Speaker 1: came some games with injuries too, but they started the

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Speaker 1: majority of the season. Lawrence and Mack played every game.

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Speaker 1: I think Mac like and listen, you're playoff team if

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Speaker 1: you're in New England. Nothing wrong with that, but that's

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Speaker 1: what MAC is. Is what Mac is. I don't don't

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Speaker 1: expect Mac to, you know, turn into some ass kicking

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen meets Patrick Mahomes that that ain't happen to me.

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Speaker 1: Best case scenarios like a better Cousins which he's you

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Speaker 1: know already kind of plays like that. I expect Trevor Lawrence, two,

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Speaker 1: big time of a prospect, too talented of a player,

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Speaker 1: to not um to not seriously be like, look like

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Speaker 1: a good NFL player, not a pro ball or anything,

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Speaker 1: but just look good. Now they have to improve the

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Speaker 1: offensive line. I expect them to buy offensive lineman, expect

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Speaker 1: them to draft offensive lineman. They need offensive skill guys

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Speaker 1: around him. But I would expect with Doug and Trevor

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Speaker 1: Lawrence to be much much better. Appreciate everyone giving me

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Speaker 1: these show recommendations. Dope sick, can't wait to watch more

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Speaker 1: of that tonight Hulu. Uh again, I can't recommend this enough.

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Speaker 1: If you like Kanye West or just semi interested in

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Speaker 1: just aspirational people, it's an inspiring documentary. It really is.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for everyone that recommended that because I was

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Speaker 1: gonna watch it probably, but I got so many people

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Speaker 1: recommending it was awesome. Have a good week. I'll have

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Speaker 1: the golf podcast out Wednesday. Make sure you subscribe to

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Speaker 1: the three Now podcast. You have to subscribe to three

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