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Speaker 1: What's up, Mets fans back here for episode number seventy

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Speaker 1: six of the mets Ub podcast, a highly anticipated episode.

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Speaker 1: Me and James are super excited to do this one

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Speaker 1: with you guys. Today we have Trevor May, relief pitcher

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Speaker 1: for the New York Mets, coming on first ever MLB

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Speaker 1: player on the Mets Up podcast. We have an hour

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Speaker 1: long conversation coming up with him where we talk about

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Speaker 1: the lockout the Mets, the future of baseball. What he

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Speaker 1: does on Twitch is gaming, is YouTube, social media. We

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Speaker 1: cover it all with Trevor May. It is something you

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Speaker 1: as dropping a following. Me and James at Rafickmark at

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Speaker 1: Jeter had no range and without further ado, let's bring

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Speaker 1: in Trevor May of the New York Mets. Excited for

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Speaker 1: this podcast. It's gonna be electric, all right. So here

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Speaker 1: he is Mets reliever Trevor May. Trevor, thank you so

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Speaker 1: much for joining us here today. Really excited.

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Speaker 2: You are the first.

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Speaker 1: Major league player that we have had on the Mets

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Speaker 1: Up podcas Cast. How's it feel to have such a

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Speaker 1: big honor on you here?

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Speaker 2: Huge? It's huge. It's a big day for the America,

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Speaker 2: Big Bay for us. No, it's pleasure. Thanks for having

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Speaker 3: Of course, I'm really glad to have you on. And

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Speaker 3: Marke didin say it before off air, but your plaque

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Speaker 3: is gonna come in the mail as being the first

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Speaker 4: I'll be I'll be looking for that, you know that,

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Speaker 1: And of course today with baseball, a lot of stuff

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Speaker 1: Of course, we think you know just that you guys,

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Speaker 4: So we are fighting now and it's important to do that.

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Speaker 4: So that's a very long way of saying it's important

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Speaker 2: We are in entertainment industry.

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Speaker 4: It's like making movies and then fighting over everything and

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Speaker 3: This week, you talked about the public perception of the

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Speaker 3: Have you noticed that during this labor and negotiation compared

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Speaker 2: There's nothing wrong with that. It's just I can't.

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Speaker 4: You can't get behind the idea that like, you know,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's also so contradictory that they're like, we have

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Speaker 2: It just yeah, it just it means there's a half truth.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's like it's funny to go how you hear

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Speaker 3: three or four new relievers there. We're going to be

437
00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:33,719
Speaker 3: up for one day, get sent back down. You never

438
00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:35,239
Speaker 3: even know if you're going to see half of these

439
00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:35,760
Speaker 3: guys again.

440
00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:38,359
Speaker 2: You just kind of try to find common ground and

441
00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:39,800
Speaker 2: hang out, man. That's I mean.

442
00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:44,200
Speaker 4: I remember a specific day. I think Anthony Banda was

443
00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:50,320
Speaker 4: with us for eight days or seven days, and Seth

444
00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:52,200
Speaker 4: Lougo and I were just kind of having a conversation.

445
00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:56,760
Speaker 4: We go about pitching very like the way we prepare

446
00:19:56,880 --> 00:19:58,679
Speaker 4: or the things we look at per hitter, like how

447
00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:02,080
Speaker 4: we want to attack hitters is really really different. But

448
00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:06,840
Speaker 4: our the way that we are, our process for getting

449
00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:10,040
Speaker 4: that information and like studying it is the same, so

450
00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:12,480
Speaker 4: we both have our own study or our own report.

451
00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:14,359
Speaker 2: So funny, here's a funny thing about Lego. A lot

452
00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:15,439
Speaker 2: of people don't know he.

453
00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:19,639
Speaker 4: He refuses to use the iPad and he has to

454
00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:22,560
Speaker 4: have a physical printed out copy of his scouting report

455
00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:24,480
Speaker 4: so we can shuffle them, but it keeps them in.

456
00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:26,600
Speaker 4: Like basically he just follows the game along and he

457
00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:28,600
Speaker 4: can shuffle, so it's like a physical thing, Like he's

458
00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:29,840
Speaker 4: like the one in front of me is the guy

459
00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:32,080
Speaker 4: who's up, so he can do that, and the iPad

460
00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:34,600
Speaker 4: you lose where you're at. Like it just it feels more,

461
00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:37,600
Speaker 4: he feels more engaged. I asked him about that, but

462
00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:39,720
Speaker 4: we were talking about pitching. We're just like talking and

463
00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:41,479
Speaker 4: the band it popped in and was like asking us

464
00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:43,800
Speaker 4: some questions of because he was a starter and he's

465
00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:46,200
Speaker 4: trying to figure out how to stay. He wants to

466
00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:48,000
Speaker 4: stay in the major leagues. A lot of young guys

467
00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:49,359
Speaker 4: who have kind of bounced up have a little bit

468
00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:51,399
Speaker 4: of time. I believe we were a second team in

469
00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:52,720
Speaker 4: the big that he'd been in the big leagues with

470
00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:54,600
Speaker 4: and then he went over to the Pirates and threw

471
00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:56,280
Speaker 4: pretty well. I think pretty much he stayed up for

472
00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:57,760
Speaker 4: the rest of the year with them, or pretty close

473
00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:00,639
Speaker 4: to go. Got a good amount of opportunities after we

474
00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:03,960
Speaker 4: were able to talk. Lukas was another guy we'd have

475
00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:06,760
Speaker 4: conversations like this with and when he was out there

476
00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:07,679
Speaker 4: with us at the beind of the year.

477
00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:10,680
Speaker 2: So I liked. I like that part.

478
00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:13,240
Speaker 4: I like being able to share my experiences with guys

479
00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:15,439
Speaker 4: who are trying to stick because I spent a lot

480
00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:18,119
Speaker 4: of time working on trying to stick, especially as a reliever.

481
00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:19,800
Speaker 4: When I got moved to relieving, I was like, this

482
00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:22,960
Speaker 4: is how I'm gonna stick, at least at the time

483
00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:25,480
Speaker 4: with just generally how I was going, things were going

484
00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:30,000
Speaker 4: for me. So that's that's the stuff I like. But literally,

485
00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:33,080
Speaker 4: we've all been there, We've all been around so long

486
00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:36,119
Speaker 4: that like it's really not that weird. You just go, Okay,

487
00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:38,920
Speaker 4: what's up. I'm usually like it's like for us, the

488
00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:40,959
Speaker 4: older guys meet Loop and Lugo, the guys knew who

489
00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:43,159
Speaker 4: were and then we got to meet them and then

490
00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:44,560
Speaker 4: we just hung out and we were just in a bullpen,

491
00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:47,159
Speaker 4: and everyone's comfortable being in a bullpen, so that was

492
00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:49,280
Speaker 4: not for no matter what what bullpen you're in, and

493
00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:50,760
Speaker 4: you just find a couple guys to talk to them

494
00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:53,480
Speaker 4: before you know it, like Keith Embury came in and

495
00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:56,800
Speaker 4: he was our bud in two days because we we'd

496
00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:59,560
Speaker 4: played them. We'd already played them seven times that year, right,

497
00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:02,000
Speaker 4: so we'd seen him a lot. We talked about those games,

498
00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:04,320
Speaker 4: and then he just talked about like we got into

499
00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:07,080
Speaker 4: how unlucky he is, because he was insanely unlucky.

500
00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:09,159
Speaker 2: Last year, like too the craziest.

501
00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:11,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was literally like it was a double or

502
00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:14,960
Speaker 4: a punchy and he's like, I don't know how every

503
00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:16,600
Speaker 4: single ball put him play, and it was he was

504
00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:17,640
Speaker 4: like four hundred batting ivers.

505
00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:18,639
Speaker 2: Ball's been played for a long time.

506
00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:20,080
Speaker 4: So we just kind of made jokes about that because

507
00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:21,840
Speaker 4: mine has been high for my whole career and I'm

508
00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:22,880
Speaker 4: figuring out how to get it lower.

509
00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:24,639
Speaker 2: And then we at the.

510
00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:27,160
Speaker 4: Contrast to Loop, who Loop couldn't give up a hit

511
00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:31,080
Speaker 4: if he tried, so like they were the opposites in luck,

512
00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:33,720
Speaker 4: and so that's how we broke the ice there. So

513
00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:35,960
Speaker 4: you just you're just a bunch of dudes who are

514
00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:38,320
Speaker 4: trying to do the same job, and you give him

515
00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:39,800
Speaker 4: kind of like a this is how it is here

516
00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:42,240
Speaker 4: man expected like and one of those things was like

517
00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:44,800
Speaker 4: no offense, Rich Hill, but he's getting pulled out for

518
00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:47,160
Speaker 4: the fifth no matter what, I don't get ready to pitch.

519
00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:49,920
Speaker 4: And he was like, Rich is the most competitive person

520
00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:51,880
Speaker 4: I've ever met. He was always like, through sixty one

521
00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:54,720
Speaker 4: pitches today, I know I'm old, but I could throw

522
00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:55,160
Speaker 4: a hundred.

523
00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:00,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I know that. You know, this past off

524
00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:02,200
Speaker 1: season or whatever brought in a lot of new guys.

525
00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:04,479
Speaker 1: Shurs are of course being the big one, and then

526
00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:07,200
Speaker 1: on the offensive side of Marte Escobar, Kana, a couple

527
00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:09,800
Speaker 1: other names. What do you like, I mean, you've been

528
00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:12,600
Speaker 1: able to see Jake Degram pitch the last season, be

529
00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:15,200
Speaker 1: around his bullpens and stuff. Adding a guy like Sures

530
00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:16,960
Speaker 1: or I mean, besides what you think it does to

531
00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:18,760
Speaker 1: the team, Like, is there is there something that you're

532
00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:20,800
Speaker 1: particularly excited about with Max Schurz and being a part

533
00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:21,240
Speaker 1: of this team.

534
00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:23,440
Speaker 4: I want to see how he goes about because he's

535
00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:26,520
Speaker 4: he's he's very confident in all of his pitches.

536
00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:28,240
Speaker 2: That's one thing that's really interesting to me.

537
00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:31,600
Speaker 4: And how he got there would be something that I

538
00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:34,200
Speaker 4: think I would like to pick his brain because I'm gonna,

539
00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:34,720
Speaker 4: I'm gonna.

540
00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:35,920
Speaker 2: I've been working on some more stuff.

541
00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:38,880
Speaker 4: But even my fastball has always been my bread and butter,

542
00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:41,520
Speaker 4: and I think I, I uh, default to it a

543
00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:47,879
Speaker 4: little bit too much, and so like I would love

544
00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:49,280
Speaker 4: to be like, how do you get to where you're

545
00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:51,080
Speaker 4: just gonna throw your slider every single pitch to a guy?

546
00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:52,840
Speaker 4: Like how where does that conference come from? And it

547
00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:54,720
Speaker 4: probably comes from Penns. But that's one thing I'll watch

548
00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:57,800
Speaker 4: and get it from from him watching Jake because we

549
00:23:57,880 --> 00:23:59,880
Speaker 4: do actually have a lot of stuff that's similar mean

550
00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:04,600
Speaker 4: Jake and realizing that command is what makes him the best.

551
00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:07,960
Speaker 2: I mean, yes, his stuff's incredible. You know, he's got

552
00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:09,720
Speaker 2: some of the best stuff in the major leagues.

553
00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:13,719
Speaker 4: But I would say there are guys who maybe are gross,

554
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:17,280
Speaker 4: like at least by the eye test, are grosser sometimes,

555
00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:20,320
Speaker 4: like like if Louis Castillo's on, for example, and you're

556
00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:23,240
Speaker 4: just watching him cut people up for Jake just looks

557
00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:25,680
Speaker 4: like it's business as usual. Louis looks like he's guys

558
00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:28,879
Speaker 4: are like confounded, right, Yeah, so it's a little bit

559
00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:30,880
Speaker 4: of a different thing. But the thing that Jake does

560
00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:33,720
Speaker 4: so well is his command. So the things I learned,

561
00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:36,800
Speaker 4: i've learning or to focus on. It's not like necessarily

562
00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:38,760
Speaker 4: I need to do that thing that Jake does, because

563
00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:40,600
Speaker 4: I can't physically do a lot of the things Jake does.

564
00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:42,439
Speaker 2: He's more athletic than me, he just is naturally.

565
00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:45,639
Speaker 4: And so but I'm like, if I can get my

566
00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:48,800
Speaker 4: command to the best version of my command, my stuff

567
00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:50,639
Speaker 4: will play similarly to his.

568
00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:52,480
Speaker 2: So I'll get as close to him as I can get.

569
00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:54,560
Speaker 2: And the thing that's missing, the thing that.

570
00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:57,240
Speaker 4: We're the widest are in the gap gap is is command.

571
00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:59,000
Speaker 4: So I look at then I look at Max Schuer's

572
00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:01,600
Speaker 4: and the whitest thing a gap, the gap with him

573
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,119
Speaker 4: and me, would be his ability to use all of

574
00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:06,760
Speaker 4: his off speed as his velocity at times. You know,

575
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:08,800
Speaker 4: there's times where hes ninety two, ninety three, ninety four,

576
00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:11,199
Speaker 4: which he and he throws as hard as he can

577
00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:14,720
Speaker 4: every pitch that's just going to continue to not go down.

578
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:17,800
Speaker 4: And he's finding ways to be extremely effective using the

579
00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:20,160
Speaker 4: other things. And I know that eventually I'm turning thirty

580
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:22,760
Speaker 4: three this year. Eventually ninety six is going to be

581
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:24,720
Speaker 4: ninety four and a half and then ninety three and

582
00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:27,240
Speaker 4: I'm going to have to be able to use a

583
00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:30,000
Speaker 4: lot more off speed stuff and that transition is gonna happen.

584
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,560
Speaker 4: So I'm gonna watch him and try to That's where

585
00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:34,520
Speaker 4: my focus is going to be first. But and then

586
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:36,119
Speaker 4: on top of all that, he's just a leader man

587
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:39,239
Speaker 4: and an absolute gamer and just does won't tell him

588
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:41,119
Speaker 4: I don't. He doesn't seem like someone who puts up

589
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:44,720
Speaker 4: with just stuff that he doesn't get by, like arbitrary stuff,

590
00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:45,520
Speaker 4: just stupid stuff.

591
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:47,760
Speaker 2: He's like, Nah, that's stupid. I don't like that, And

592
00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:49,760
Speaker 2: I love it. Seems as all business.

593
00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:52,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's like a fierous competitor, Yes.

594
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:54,920
Speaker 4: Pry the ball out of my cold dead fingers type

595
00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:57,520
Speaker 4: of guy. And as a bullpen guy, I want to

596
00:25:57,560 --> 00:25:59,440
Speaker 4: see I want to see like Buck walking out in

597
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:01,600
Speaker 4: the eighth when we're up two nothing over the braves

598
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:05,080
Speaker 4: and Max is stomping around the mound at one five,

599
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:06,840
Speaker 4: one hundred eight pitches and he will not he wants

600
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:08,240
Speaker 4: to get that last out of the inning or something.

601
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:10,960
Speaker 4: I can't wait for that because there's a really good

602
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:14,639
Speaker 4: chance I'm warming up, so if I if I'm warming up,

603
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:15,639
Speaker 4: and then he's like, knock to me.

604
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:16,440
Speaker 2: He goes out and gets it.

605
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:17,960
Speaker 4: And then Shug just goes out and gets the safe,

606
00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:19,800
Speaker 4: and I just I get just you know, I don't

607
00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:20,720
Speaker 4: get used one day.

608
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:22,320
Speaker 2: That goes a long way for me too. So that

609
00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:23,600
Speaker 2: has the lasting implications.

610
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:28,600
Speaker 4: And Sergio Romo said this, said this best to me,

611
00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:31,000
Speaker 4: and I never really thought about it this way until

612
00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:33,359
Speaker 4: he said it. He just said, someone called down. He

613
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:35,280
Speaker 4: hadn't pitched in four days, and they're like, hey, I

614
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:37,159
Speaker 4: want to get you in there. We're up five by

615
00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:39,440
Speaker 4: five or six or seven or some some a lot

616
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:41,640
Speaker 4: of them a higher number. And he's the setup guy

617
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:43,399
Speaker 4: at the time, and he's like you, we're gonna get you.

618
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:43,920
Speaker 2: And you have pitched.

619
00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:45,560
Speaker 4: Why He's like, no, I want to and he said

620
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:47,159
Speaker 4: on the phone he answered, and he said, no, I

621
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:49,960
Speaker 4: I want to pitch as little as possible. If I'm

622
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:52,360
Speaker 4: not pitching, things are going good for the most part,

623
00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:54,639
Speaker 4: so just now whatever, I'm good and they're like okay,

624
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:56,200
Speaker 4: and they just put in one of the young guys

625
00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:58,440
Speaker 4: who hadn't pitched a while, and he got an opportunity,

626
00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:00,840
Speaker 4: and so it helped him, and Shurt was just like

627
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,159
Speaker 4: he wasn't gonna dance around. He's just like, day I

628
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,120
Speaker 4: don't have to pitch because we're winning by a lot,

629
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,240
Speaker 4: or a starter picks us up, it goes a long time,

630
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,600
Speaker 4: any of those situations, we don't have to find a

631
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:11,240
Speaker 4: way to get me in.

632
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:13,199
Speaker 2: Like that's that's the dream right there.

633
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:14,119
Speaker 5: So typical.

634
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,080
Speaker 3: Just now you're talking about being a reliever. Listen, that

635
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:18,960
Speaker 3: talked about your velocity going down when you transitioned to

636
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:21,920
Speaker 3: becoming a reliever early in your career with Minnesota after

637
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 3: the injuries and whatnot. They kind of feel like you

638
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 3: have superpowers for a little bit, just being able to

639
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 3: gas people for like an ending of the time rather

640
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:29,280
Speaker 3: than kind of hold stuff back or mix up your

641
00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 3: repertoire a little bit more. And then how at this

642
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:33,920
Speaker 3: point in career, I've been relieving for a long time.

643
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:36,200
Speaker 3: What kind of adjustments do you think you've made fully

644
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:38,920
Speaker 3: over the years to kind of understand.

645
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:39,200
Speaker 5: That role more?

646
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:42,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, letting it just going out there and quote unquote,

647
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:45,480
Speaker 4: my I had a bullpen coach or a pigeon coach

648
00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 4: on Triple A named Stuke Lyburn. He'd say, go kick

649
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:52,560
Speaker 4: up dust from uh, he's fro Mississippi. So he just

650
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 4: play that in your head, yep, manifest phrases. Anyone who

651
00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 4: knows Stu knows he's he's he's a meme. He's the best,

652
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:00,200
Speaker 4: but he's of me.

653
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:02,400
Speaker 2: He yeah.

654
00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:05,320
Speaker 4: So that was that was something that I didn't know

655
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:07,359
Speaker 4: that I was holding back until I got out and

656
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:10,560
Speaker 4: had only do one inning. And I remember the first

657
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:11,760
Speaker 4: time went out, I was just kind of at my

658
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 4: top usually ninety four ninety five, and I always hold

659
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:17,879
Speaker 4: my velocity well, like my range of e lo even

660
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 4: as a starter was like a two mile an hour difference.

661
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:22,160
Speaker 4: I had guys i'd play with who'd be like ninety

662
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:25,000
Speaker 4: two to ninety nine, right, they could add of nowhere

663
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:29,200
Speaker 4: and that would them hold back, and then they would

664
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 4: just let one eat like a bullpen guy. And I

665
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 4: didn't know what letting one eight meant really. I thought

666
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:36,960
Speaker 4: like ninety five ninety six was good, really hard. That's

667
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 4: hard and good, and I had I throw hard. I'm

668
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 4: not like a soft thrower. I'm just not like ninety

669
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 4: five every pitch, and then like the four or five

670
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 4: outings in, I'm like five, six, five, and then I

671
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:51,480
Speaker 4: hit sevens and everyone's like, dude, what is going on?

672
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:52,680
Speaker 2: And I was blown.

673
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 4: I could blow ninety four pive pass guys because I

674
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 4: threw up and I threw head Carrie. I didn't know why,

675
00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:59,719
Speaker 4: but I always I've always been a big strikeout guy.

676
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 4: I had one time in high or one time in

677
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 4: high I struck out like fourteen per nine for the

678
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 4: entire season, and as throwing low nineties load to mid nineties,

679
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 4: and it wasn't I wasn't dominant in the way that

680
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 4: a lot of other guys were dominant, so it just

681
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,720
Speaker 4: was kind of happening. So I had something it played harder.

682
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:18,960
Speaker 4: And then when I actually started throwing harder and was like,

683
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,719
Speaker 4: now it's playing really hard, and I started getting those

684
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 4: same start, same types of swings and missus, so big adjustment.

685
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:27,160
Speaker 4: It was a big adjustment at first, but then I

686
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 4: realized I like this more because I got to go

687
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 4: out and get three guys out usually, and that made

688
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:36,080
Speaker 4: my job simpler. And when I made my job simpler,

689
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 4: I was able to pare down what I needed to

690
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 4: throw and how I needed to throw it, and then

691
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 4: add the velocity in there. It was very easy to

692
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 4: make the decision that fastballs were gonna thrown quite a bit.

693
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 4: So it's it basically just narrowed down my repertoire and

694
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 4: made me had to figure out how to just get

695
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 4: those guys out one time. And once I bought into that,

696
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 4: preparing every single day was something that I was already

697
00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 4: really good at, So that translated easy, like that wasn't

698
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 4: changing my routine and stuff wasn't a problem at all.

699
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 4: It was just mentally preparing day in the day out,

700
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 4: not getting those days where I could literally just check.

701
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 2: Out during the game.

702
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 4: I do miss that a little bit sometimes, but sometimes

703
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:14,080
Speaker 4: you're like, I just don't want to have to like

704
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 4: get myself up today.

705
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 2: I just don't have it in me. Those days happen,

706
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 2: and that those days suck. But for the most part,

707
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 2: I do enjoy relieving more than I like starting, even

708
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:28,880
Speaker 2: though starters make on average five to ten times more money.

709
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 1: Than Yeah, just a little bit, just a little bit.

710
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 1: And then like on our podcast, we always talk about

711
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:37,360
Speaker 1: our boy Jeremy Hefner, James has got a Jeremy Hefner

712
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 1: Jersey might be one of the only ones out there

713
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:40,840
Speaker 1: for a pitching coach. And of course you had a

714
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 1: little relationship of course with him in Minnesota as well.

715
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 1: What kind of impact does Jeremy have to make with

716
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:48,400
Speaker 1: the pitching staff, because it honestly feels like everybody who

717
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 1: ever comes in contact with him just becomes a better picture,

718
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:53,960
Speaker 1: it seems like and beans when talking about him.

719
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 4: He's, uh, he's he's a great guy first of all,

720
00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:00,160
Speaker 4: really really down to earth, really easy to talk to,

721
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 4: and he's really he loves, loves loves when you approach

722
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 4: with something like you have a topic to talk about,

723
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 4: you have something you want to try, you like, that's

724
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 4: his Like he's like, yes, I like even even when

725
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:14,720
Speaker 4: I was like, Hey, I want to do these logs

726
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 4: and stuff, do you and he was like can I

727
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:16,239
Speaker 4: be in them?

728
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 2: Like other pitching coaches might be like that's fine, but

729
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 2: I'm not. Really, he just gets it. He just understands

730
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 2: like where we're at and where things are going.

731
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:31,520
Speaker 4: And he's also hey has enough experience now in the

732
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 4: analytics side and in the pitching He was a player.

733
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 4: He uh was analytic, had an al analytics job for

734
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 4: years and then was a bullpenk So he's been with

735
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 4: the players. He's really good at bridging the gap between

736
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 4: the players and giving them the information they need to

737
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 4: go need. I love that he comes insists with me

738
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 4: after every single outing and talks like lets me just

739
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 4: vent to him, or or if I'm pissed off about something,

740
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 4: or like let me hits me with like, oh this

741
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 4: was good, this worked good, and we'll just I literally

742
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 4: will retro by the outing, like during why we're hitting

743
00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 4: the next inning, and me and him have become really

744
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 4: good friends of the years. Also, I think that he

745
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 4: helped me make that transition into fast falls up reliever,

746
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 4: like my figuring out what's most effective for me and

747
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 4: being the bridge between me and Josh Caulk, who was

748
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 4: the head analyts guy over at Minnesota who has since

749
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:18,200
Speaker 4: then come out of shell a lot, and now he's

750
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:20,960
Speaker 4: very approachable and like people can have the conversation straight

751
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 4: up with him. You don't need the middleman as much anymore.

752
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 4: But so I've gotten really comfortable with not only Helf,

753
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 4: but like all the analytics guys as well, because they're

754
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 4: also close contact in there, Like so I'm more intimate

755
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 4: with like their process, which helps me figure things out faster.

756
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:41,720
Speaker 4: So there's you know, like what we don't need to

757
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 4: go through people all the time when we're going to

758
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:45,640
Speaker 4: change something or try throwing sliders more. I can just

759
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 4: go straight to them and I know that that helf

760
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 4: can stand there. We're all on the same page. So

761
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 4: that's the biggest thing for me, at least doing my job.

762
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 4: I love that and that's how my brain works too,

763
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 4: So we're very similar in that. But at the same time,

764
00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 4: I also think that this is something that he did

765
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 4: so well last year that I don't think anyone mentions,

766
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:05,720
Speaker 4: and that needs to be mentioned. We talked about how

767
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 4: guys there was a little bit of turnover in the

768
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,719
Speaker 4: pen sometimes. Yeah, we had about three spots that were

769
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:13,200
Speaker 4: turning over with injuries and stuff, but there was five

770
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 4: of us that were there the whole time. We all

771
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 4: through mid sixties or more. We've moved through like sixty

772
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:20,960
Speaker 4: five to seventy appearances all of us, and five guys

773
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 4: in a pen that broke with the team that all

774
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 4: throw sixty five times is unheard of. People do not

775
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 4: understand that's more than half your bullpen being there the

776
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:29,720
Speaker 4: whole time.

777
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 2: Me.

778
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 4: Sug Fama had a ten day SDL stent for his

779
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 4: hip with with with a sick day and there too,

780
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:39,479
Speaker 4: so he like he timed it perfectly.

781
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 2: But he literally went only those.

782
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 4: Ten days, came back, pitched that day up and that's it.

783
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 4: So he's the only one he missed any time Loopy.

784
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 4: And then when Lugo was there the whole whatever, he

785
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 4: was healthy the whole time, even coming off the bones,

786
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:54,960
Speaker 4: purs and stuff, which isn't easy, uh, getting getting needing

787
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 4: time off from stuff like that. He's a gamer and

788
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:03,240
Speaker 4: Mickey cast uh, and so all of us were just game.

789
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 4: We were there, we were ready to go. And Half

790
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 4: had a huge part to do with that because we

791
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 4: were all still comfortable being like Half listen, listen, hear

792
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 4: me out here today.

793
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 2: You might want to pitch someone else and he.

794
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 4: Would be very quick, and Louie also very open to that,

795
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:22,920
Speaker 4: like just tell me. We'll just say okay, unavailable and

796
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:25,880
Speaker 4: we will go. And guys picked each other up for

797
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 4: the most part. All year, everyone had everyone had really

798
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:31,239
Speaker 4: solid I would say, no one. The worst anyone did

799
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:33,759
Speaker 4: was just was was would be considered a good year

800
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:35,800
Speaker 4: for them. So I think that everyone came out of

801
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:36,719
Speaker 4: there like had a good year.

802
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:37,399
Speaker 2: I'm good.

803
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 4: And then LOOPI was like, eh, it was okay, but

804
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:42,239
Speaker 4: everyone else was like was happy with the progress they

805
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 4: made and the things they did and how they were

806
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:46,800
Speaker 4: used and how their workload all of us and we

807
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:49,480
Speaker 4: felt like we were positioned that it had we gone

808
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:51,279
Speaker 4: to a playoff run or whatever, we would have had

809
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 4: enough in the tank that we would being able to

810
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:56,359
Speaker 4: continue stuff wise, to compete through all the way through.

811
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:58,400
Speaker 4: I know my last outing, I was throwing just as

812
00:34:58,440 --> 00:34:59,880
Speaker 4: hard as it was in the middle of the year,

813
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 4: and all this stuff felt good, and so that's a

814
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:05,239
Speaker 4: good sign. So Half has a lot to do with that,

815
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 4: and that's a high priority for him. So being a

816
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 4: pitcher for him is a good situation. He's a big

817
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 4: reason that it came over to the Mets.

818
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:14,239
Speaker 5: Yeah, I didn't mean to FM before.

819
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 3: I just met. Like the modern baseball bullpen has a

820
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 3: you know, consistent turnover with guy.

821
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:21,440
Speaker 4: Oh no, no, yeah, no, I totally get maybe I

822
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:23,880
Speaker 4: took the total, but yeah, that's just the way it is,

823
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 4: for sure, And that's just that's gonna happen everywhere. There's

824
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 4: there's no way to avoid it.

825
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 3: The best bullpen was incredible last year. We said over

826
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:34,400
Speaker 3: and over again on the show that was probably strength

827
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 3: of the team. And the one thing that after, of course,

828
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 3: Jake went down, the one thing that kept the team

829
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 3: very together and in winning a lot of close baseball

830
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:43,239
Speaker 3: games for much of the summer when things were still

831
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:43,919
Speaker 3: going very well.

832
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 5: But the bullpen is always going to get the ship.

833
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 3: End of the stick in terms of twether, the media, TV,

834
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:51,799
Speaker 3: all the common fans, everything, You're always going to get

835
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 3: completely just trash.

836
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:53,759
Speaker 5: For almost no reason.

837
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 3: Do you how do you deal with those frustrations when

838
00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:58,759
Speaker 3: people don't think you do your job when really you

839
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 3: and all those guys you mentioned basically had some of

840
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 3: the best years of your career. And also do you

841
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:06,319
Speaker 3: think that is exacerbated just being in New York, coming

842
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 3: from the smaller market to a bigger one.

843
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's everything.

844
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 4: Every single thing is exacerbated by going to New York,

845
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:15,480
Speaker 4: like everything, which that sounds like a negative thing, it's

846
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 4: just the way there's just more people, Like, there's just

847
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 4: more people. And and New York is the epitome of

848
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:24,920
Speaker 4: of the Northeast, you know, like basically the North the

849
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 4: Northeast just radiates out from New York City. So yeah,

850
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:32,840
Speaker 4: passion is the epicenter of passion for anything. The No

851
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 4: matter how good your sports team is, there is a

852
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:39,279
Speaker 4: group of people that will will literally do anything for them.

853
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:42,480
Speaker 4: There no matter you could lose every everyone loves. There's

854
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:46,360
Speaker 4: still tons of Jets fans, if that makes sense, right exactly,

855
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 4: You guys look like it's it's just it's just the

856
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:50,719
Speaker 4: way of life and that's the way it is, like

857
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:54,359
Speaker 4: and then and that's that's that's good and way more

858
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:55,800
Speaker 4: ways than it's not.

859
00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 2: Being a player. Yes, it can get overwhelming, Yes, there

860
00:36:59,680 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 2: can be.

861
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 4: You can feel the need, like I feel the need

862
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 4: to want to defend myself a lot because I'm realizing

863
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 4: this a lot about myself. Being respected as a world

864
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 4: class player is important to me. It's a major part

865
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 4: of our identities because we literally have done it every

866
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:20,799
Speaker 4: minute of every day, like since I was four, So like, yeah,

867
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:22,920
Speaker 4: I want respect for being good at what I do

868
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:24,839
Speaker 4: because I've done it for thirty almost thirty years.

869
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 2: Right, But at the.

870
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:30,360
Speaker 4: Same time, social media, like that's not how that stuff

871
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 4: doesn't come through, Like you can't determine respect based on

872
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:37,400
Speaker 4: one sentence, So you just can't. So like most of

873
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 4: the time people aren't actually upset, they're just saying it

874
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:42,360
Speaker 4: because they can. That's the vast majority of stuff. So

875
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 4: once you realize that stuff, But at the end of

876
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:46,800
Speaker 4: the day, you know, because I go out there and

877
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:49,320
Speaker 4: I put my whole I wake up in the morning

878
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:50,880
Speaker 4: and the first thought I have is like, Okay, I

879
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 4: got a pitch later.

880
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:53,439
Speaker 2: That's like my whole life.

881
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:56,840
Speaker 4: So I just ramp up in like kind of like

882
00:37:57,080 --> 00:38:01,359
Speaker 4: this anticipation of pitching all day. So I'm I feel

883
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 4: my emotions very strongly, always have my whole life. I

884
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 4: just I get very It's something I've had to work

885
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 4: on a lot to do what I do because that's

886
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 4: not compatible most of the time. And so like when

887
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 4: things go bad, I feel it may be a little

888
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 4: stronger than a lot of people. And the other way,

889
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 4: I get really happy and excited about things when I

890
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:18,640
Speaker 4: when I get into them.

891
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 2: Uh.

892
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 4: And so that's hard enough already, and then that those

893
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 4: emotions being fueled by other people with really strong emotions.

894
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:29,279
Speaker 4: A lot of people with a lot of really strong

895
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:33,359
Speaker 4: emotions getting together things can just kind of mind get

896
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 4: a mind of their drone and snowball. So I've I've

897
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 4: tried to implement things where I don't see as much

898
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 4: and I don't like I have my I got my

899
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:42,359
Speaker 4: own I got enough fuel.

900
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:43,320
Speaker 2: I don't need more fuel.

901
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 4: But at the end of the day, you win, like

902
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:49,840
Speaker 4: everyone says, you win here, You're never gonna pay for

903
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:52,279
Speaker 4: a ice cream cone ever again in this city. You know,

904
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:55,120
Speaker 4: like the the it's the trade it's the infinite, it's

905
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:57,760
Speaker 4: the baseball trade off. Yes, you can go play professional

906
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 4: baseball and you have a zero point one percent chance

907
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:03,279
Speaker 4: of making any real money, but if you do, you're

908
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:04,319
Speaker 4: gonna be really glad you did.

909
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:05,160
Speaker 2: Type of thing.

910
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 4: It's just high risk, but very very high reard and

911
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:09,879
Speaker 4: you just gotta deal with the stuff. You gotta gotta

912
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 4: implement strategies to deal with it as best you can

913
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 4: and thrive in lear life and not just survive, get

914
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 4: through it and then hope that you know it's better

915
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 4: next time. It's it's important to enjoy it in any

916
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 4: way you can. And that's why I do things like this,

917
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 4: because I think that this is when I'm done playing.

918
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 4: No one's gonna want me to come on their pod.

919
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:34,320
Speaker 1: I don't know about nobody.

920
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, well maybe as a talking head, but not you know,

921
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 4: once you're not a player, people don't ask you about

922
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 4: player stuff that much anymore.

923
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:44,120
Speaker 2: And and that don't take that for granted.

924
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 4: So I'm just trying to just try and enjoy my

925
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:50,879
Speaker 4: time and play baseball, be a baseball player as long

926
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:52,800
Speaker 4: as I can while I still really love it.

927
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 2: And then when the time comes, the time comes.

928
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 4: But I no matter what happens this coming season, as

929
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:01,240
Speaker 4: in a contract here, no matter what happens in the future,

930
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:02,920
Speaker 4: being a New York Met is something. I'm gonna have

931
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 4: a New York Mets jersey with May on the back

932
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:06,759
Speaker 4: of it on my wall for the rest of my life,

933
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 4: and it's gonna be a major point of pride, no

934
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 4: matter how good the team is, no matter what Shenanigan's happened,

935
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:13,759
Speaker 4: no matter how much the fans hate or love me,

936
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:17,279
Speaker 4: because frankly, it's gonna be.

937
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:19,839
Speaker 2: One or the other. And there's a split group now.

938
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 4: A lot of people hate me for whatever reason they have,

939
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 4: and that's just the way things are. But I'm never

940
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 4: gonna regret being putting on that jersey because, first of all,

941
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 4: the color combos I think the best in the major leagues.

942
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 2: But secondly, it's New York man.

943
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 4: You play for a New York team, Like that's just

944
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 4: like you know in European football, like you know, if

945
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:47,320
Speaker 4: you if you even if you were just a slaptick,

946
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:50,320
Speaker 4: but you're on Real Madrid, or you're on Man City,

947
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 4: or you're on a Juventus. Right, that's like mecca for

948
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:57,359
Speaker 4: those countries. Like to be a player on those even

949
00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:59,919
Speaker 4: if you didn't do anything, you're still gonna remember that forever.

950
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 4: So like New York is that the Mets are one

951
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:05,719
Speaker 4: of those teams, Like that's you put New York on

952
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 4: the front of your jersey. I'm gonna show my kids

953
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:09,800
Speaker 4: when I don't have any kids yet, but when I do,

954
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 4: they're gonna be.

955
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 5: Like, you played for me.

956
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 4: And but yeah, it's gonna be a whole side of

957
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:17,320
Speaker 4: my life that they never even experienced.

958
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 2: And it's gonna be awesome. Tell the stories when I'm

959
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 2: when I'm old.

960
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:22,439
Speaker 1: So well, I think you kind of answered my next question,

961
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 1: but I was gonna talk about, like, you know, how

962
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:26,440
Speaker 1: does it feel to play New York, especially when you

963
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:28,799
Speaker 1: have an owner like Steve Cohen who's put like very

964
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:31,400
Speaker 1: high expectations with the team, brought a new manager, and

965
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:34,279
Speaker 1: Buck Showalter who's obviously here to win now bringing in

966
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 1: players like Sures, Like, do you feel that as a player,

967
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 1: is that's something that like maybe adds a little way

968
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 1: too shoulder or is this something that really motivates you, like, oh,

969
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:44,239
Speaker 1: we're going for it now. This is exactly where I

970
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 1: wanted to be. I'm pumped for this upcoming season.

971
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 2: That is, I think that goes a lot farther. That's great.

972
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 4: It's just great when an owner shows and I said

973
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:53,880
Speaker 4: this when I signed, and I said this, said this

974
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:56,719
Speaker 4: ever since. No matter you know, all the stuff and

975
00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:58,840
Speaker 4: all the things that everyone's always talking about with the

976
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:02,440
Speaker 4: weird controversy stuff and the like whatever, at the end

977
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:05,920
Speaker 4: of the day, man like Steve, Steve is a Mets fan.

978
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:08,759
Speaker 4: He wants his team to win, and he's willing to

979
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 4: at least put resources, like go throw the briefcase on

980
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:15,440
Speaker 4: the table and let's what can we do with this?

981
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:18,879
Speaker 4: Because like as we've seen pretty much all the other ones,

982
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 4: there's only there's a few that are like that.

983
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:23,880
Speaker 2: Other ones there are others aren't aren't willing to do that.

984
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:26,240
Speaker 2: It's not their main thing, Like I said, their side hustle.

985
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 2: Other people don't like their side hustle as much as

986
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:32,759
Speaker 2: Steve liked his. And that gives you. That gives you

987
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:34,399
Speaker 2: like motivation, it lights fire.

988
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:36,879
Speaker 4: You're like, okay, look at all this, let's like let's

989
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:39,400
Speaker 4: not waste this, like, how can we do this the

990
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 4: best veriability? So having the resources, knowing that they're they're

991
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 4: there and available, it gets your brain going because how

992
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 4: are you supposed to be creative with how you're gonna

993
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:50,400
Speaker 4: get things done if you don't even have the resource

994
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 4: to do it. So the way that it fires fans up,

995
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 4: it also fires up us up in a in a

996
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:56,640
Speaker 4: very similar way. And I can only imagine what it's

997
00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 4: like for because I didn't come up with this organization.

998
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:01,279
Speaker 4: A lot of these guys coming up through it, though

999
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 4: it could be I think it gets really really exciting

1000
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 4: for them one because there's an opportunity to like, yeah,

1001
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 4: like I could be a met for life, and you know,

1002
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:10,360
Speaker 4: because there's a lot of people to come up with

1003
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 4: like a smaller market team. They're like, even if it's

1004
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:16,400
Speaker 4: very even if I'm the best player that's ever been

1005
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:18,480
Speaker 4: in this organization, it's still a really low opportunity for

1006
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:20,759
Speaker 4: me to be on this team for my whole career. Like, yeah,

1007
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:25,279
Speaker 4: Joe Mauer is the only guy for the Twins. Yeah, Like,

1008
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:27,480
Speaker 4: there's not gonna be another one for very long. They're

1009
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:30,320
Speaker 4: not gonna give it less. And that's because he's Joe Mauer.

1010
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:32,840
Speaker 5: And he's from that city, mister Minnesota.

1011
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 4: Mister Minnesota, like he had that was the only way

1012
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 4: that he was gonna get a career, a career, be

1013
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:40,440
Speaker 4: a career twin. It's just the way that it is,

1014
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:41,920
Speaker 4: like they just don't have the money to make those

1015
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:44,400
Speaker 4: things happen. The Mets do, and all these young guys

1016
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:49,640
Speaker 4: who who could potential stars, you know, like they see

1017
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:52,400
Speaker 4: they get excited too because like he wants to win,

1018
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:54,319
Speaker 4: and if I get up there, I could get an opportunity,

1019
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 4: a real opportunity to to set myself up to to

1020
00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 4: be in this organization for my whole as well. So

1021
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:03,759
Speaker 4: that's that's something also that's unique that I'm thinking from

1022
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 4: a player's expect or perspective, that would be exciting.

1023
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:10,279
Speaker 2: At a very high level.

1024
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 3: I think that that was such a great answer. That

1025
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:14,240
Speaker 3: was amazing to hear from a fan on side.

1026
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:18,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, something that we definitely love to hear as Mets fans. Okay,

1027
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:20,800
Speaker 1: so probably honestly gonna be like the last baseball related

1028
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:22,399
Speaker 1: question that we're gonna lighten up here as we start

1029
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 1: to wrap it up. Toughest guy to get out in

1030
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 1: the NL East, We're gonna include Freddy Freeman technically is

1031
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:29,920
Speaker 1: a free agent, but we'll just include him for this

1032
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 1: the point of this conversation, which guy would you say

1033
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 1: is your toughest out in the NL.

1034
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:38,320
Speaker 2: East, the toughest out I mean Soda.

1035
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 4: That's a good answer, So would probably just barely edge

1036
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 4: out Freddy, just barely.

1037
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:44,439
Speaker 5: Do you have a righty?

1038
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 4: I mean last year was riley for me, And to

1039
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 4: be honest, I'm supposed to be a good matchup with him,

1040
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:54,959
Speaker 4: and I just want who's another? Oh h, I let's

1041
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:56,719
Speaker 4: we got to give credit for credit too. He's use

1042
00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 4: a gulars. Not only that that guy that guy love

1043
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:02,239
Speaker 4: He's like, oh you throw one hundred and one, watch me,

1044
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 4: watch me try to keep this fat fair right like

1045
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 4: you throw hard. He wants so bad to get around

1046
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 4: on your your your ninety eight ninety nine like and

1047
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 4: that that like you could see it in his eyes.

1048
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:15,440
Speaker 4: He loves he loves that challenge. And so when you

1049
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 4: get guys like that who are like SODA's very much

1050
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 4: the same way, like good luck, get him, buy me right,

1051
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:22,879
Speaker 4: Miki Caperra, Like you throw, you throw ninety nine away,

1052
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 4: he'd hit it, just barely touch it out of the glove,

1053
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 4: the catcher wouldn't catch it, drop it, and then he'd

1054
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:29,120
Speaker 4: look at you like try try again. You're like, give

1055
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 4: me another pitch, and he knows you're frustrated, and he's

1056
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 4: like playing the game.

1057
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 2: He's having a good time. Uh.

1058
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:36,000
Speaker 4: And then uh, probably in that like one be tier,

1059
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:40,160
Speaker 4: I'd throw like akunya, the guys who are like, you know,

1060
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 4: big damage guys that like you don't you can you can,

1061
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 4: you can be okay if you're not making a lot

1062
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,239
Speaker 4: of mistakes, but if you're having a mistake day, you

1063
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:51,440
Speaker 4: really don't want to see him walk up there like

1064
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 4: Albee's uh he he he got to give him the

1065
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 4: props too, because he had a really really good year

1066
00:45:57,280 --> 00:46:03,279
Speaker 4: last year. Yeah, Kunya Albi's uh. And then I'm trying

1067
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 4: to think, like a Marlin, we have a.

1068
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:09,320
Speaker 1: Big Marlins fan friend. You're you're making him so happy

1069
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:10,920
Speaker 1: right now here and that you want to listen to

1070
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:12,240
Speaker 1: Marlins player, and he's just agular.

1071
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 4: I think I think Chisholm's quickly he's getting into that

1072
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:20,160
Speaker 4: that territory where like you're like, okay, let's be a

1073
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:22,279
Speaker 4: little careful, let's not him, let him beat us.

1074
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:23,960
Speaker 2: And at least in that lineup for not right now.

1075
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:26,360
Speaker 3: Mark and I were at the game last year. So

1076
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:29,760
Speaker 3: when it was Jake versus Trevor Rodgers, that one nothing

1077
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 3: like Muggy April afternoon, when the only run was the

1078
00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:34,960
Speaker 3: Jazz too fastball he put out in the ground. We're

1079
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:38,320
Speaker 3: sitting there like, holy this guy's this guy really has it.

1080
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, he he went, he sold out. He tried to

1081
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 4: get me like that too. Later in the season, threw

1082
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:44,279
Speaker 4: a heater up and in and it was above the zone.

1083
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:45,680
Speaker 4: He tried to go and get it for his pitch.

1084
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:50,360
Speaker 4: Uh that was O two though, isn't it. Uh, So

1085
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 4: like that's just it's so funny Jake that never things

1086
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:59,000
Speaker 4: don't go against Jake often, but like he does have

1087
00:46:59,080 --> 00:46:59,879
Speaker 4: a lot of those.

1088
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:03,360
Speaker 2: Was like pitch eight inch above the zone like Homer's

1089
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 2: and then the slider down and the into top of you.

1090
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 5: It was the Rockies game.

1091
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:11,920
Speaker 2: The Rockies game. I'm like, like, so he give like.

1092
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:14,319
Speaker 4: Four homers or three home or something, and they were

1093
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:16,480
Speaker 4: all like list all of them and no one and

1094
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:19,399
Speaker 4: no one had any business hitting those pitches. So it's

1095
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:21,360
Speaker 4: like it's because but then again the ones they do

1096
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:23,400
Speaker 4: have business hitting. He just blows by him. So I

1097
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:25,359
Speaker 4: guess it's a trade off. It's baseball, like no one's

1098
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:27,520
Speaker 4: like no one ever gets them all right, even Jake.

1099
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:29,800
Speaker 5: Does Jake know how good he is?

1100
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:32,600
Speaker 3: Yeah? So like when you're around him, is that something

1101
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 3: that's like he's.

1102
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 4: Really he's really modest, Like he doesn't like talk about

1103
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:40,239
Speaker 4: it ever, He never mentions a stat but he makes

1104
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:41,960
Speaker 4: he'll do the thing like simple.

1105
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 2: Uh. So we were in.

1106
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:46,440
Speaker 4: Arizona and they were like, of course, just ranting and raving.

1107
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:49,480
Speaker 4: We're we're all inside. I think I'm done. I'm either

1108
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:52,279
Speaker 4: done pitching. No, no, no, it's early in the early

1109
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 4: in the game. It's like second inning and we go

1110
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:56,920
Speaker 4: out in the fourth. Uh, three of us do me.

1111
00:47:57,080 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 4: It was me Loopy and DS go a little bit

1112
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:03,080
Speaker 4: later and uh and Jake sitting there just like inside

1113
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:04,880
Speaker 4: he was. He came in to see a trainer and

1114
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:07,000
Speaker 4: like was just sitting uh watching the game, and they

1115
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:09,359
Speaker 4: were the commentators were on their commentators and like Jake

1116
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:11,239
Speaker 4: grim did this this, and he's done this and he

1117
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 4: just is he and they were just having like is

1118
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:14,800
Speaker 4: he the best player in the pitcher And then the

1119
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:17,400
Speaker 4: other guy was like, it's not even close and everyone

1120
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:19,759
Speaker 4: everyone talks about him and Garrett and I think right

1121
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:22,640
Speaker 4: now Jake is miles like he's doing something that we've

1122
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 4: never seen. And he goes, he's just he's just incredible,

1123
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:29,719
Speaker 4: and I anticipate him being, you know, the best ever.

1124
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:31,560
Speaker 4: And then he like, we're a we all look like

1125
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:32,879
Speaker 4: a roller eyes and look at him, and he goes,

1126
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 4: he goes, he give us a little shove and he's right.

1127
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 4: And that's the first time I lost it. It was

1128
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:41,880
Speaker 4: hilarious because he's like, he's not wrong.

1129
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 2: Like it was really funny.

1130
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 4: But that's That's as much as you're gonna get. He's

1131
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 4: never gonna be like you won't walk up and you'd

1132
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:49,880
Speaker 4: be like a fourteen punches again and walk off like

1133
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:52,640
Speaker 4: and there are guys that will do stuff like that, like.

1134
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:55,920
Speaker 2: Haha, took them deep again, the guys stuff. He's not

1135
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:56,359
Speaker 2: one of those.

1136
00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:59,880
Speaker 1: Would you say because last year you started vogging during games,

1137
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 1: would you say that a lot of the players now

1138
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:04,080
Speaker 1: were probably a little more receptive than maybe what it

1139
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 1: would have been like a few years ago, Like what's

1140
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 1: the whole I guess attitude and environment with like you

1141
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:12,920
Speaker 1: being so socially media forward with everything like I'm assuming

1142
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:14,880
Speaker 1: there has to be some guys that probably want to

1143
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:17,560
Speaker 1: keep to themselves, but definitely. I mean we saw like

1144
00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:19,719
Speaker 1: Stroman was super active as well on social media last

1145
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:23,279
Speaker 1: year too, Like how was how is it received? Like

1146
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:25,200
Speaker 1: with what you were trying to do in terms of

1147
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:26,959
Speaker 1: like pushing forward your brand.

1148
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 4: A lot of guys were really really open to it,

1149
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:36,000
Speaker 4: Like kp kp Strownido was like a little kid like

1150
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:39,480
Speaker 4: in a home video, just tough enough, and I'm like, dude,

1151
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:41,440
Speaker 4: you're being really well and then I was like, all right,

1152
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:42,880
Speaker 4: you can be in the front of the camera and

1153
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:45,480
Speaker 4: he's like, you panicked, lu CAZy.

1154
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:47,880
Speaker 2: I was open to it. I loved it. He let

1155
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:49,839
Speaker 2: me do the explain the chur thing and he came

1156
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:50,400
Speaker 2: in and did it.

1157
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:52,279
Speaker 4: That was so awesome that he was open for that

1158
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:54,839
Speaker 4: because he's not he's not the guy who's like a pro,

1159
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:57,799
Speaker 4: he's not looking for media opportunities, but like he said

1160
00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:01,120
Speaker 4: yes to me because we're buds, which was awesome. And Jake,

1161
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:04,160
Speaker 4: Jake's more of the private he you know, he wants

1162
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:06,279
Speaker 4: to do his little media stuff as possible and it's

1163
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:08,880
Speaker 4: just how he is. It's not like that he hates media.

1164
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:11,480
Speaker 4: He just it's not comfortable. It's just not a comfortable thing.

1165
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:14,880
Speaker 4: He'll do the basic stuff, it's just not his but

1166
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:15,399
Speaker 4: he's chill.

1167
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:15,919
Speaker 2: He's chilling.

1168
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:18,279
Speaker 4: He wants go wakeboarding, he doesn't want to, or just

1169
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:19,840
Speaker 4: go hang out at the beach, or do some manual

1170
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:21,400
Speaker 4: labor or like work around the property.

1171
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:23,080
Speaker 2: Like that's he does.

1172
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:25,320
Speaker 4: He like clears I guess he clears the brush on

1173
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:27,080
Speaker 4: his own property and does like cause it's just like

1174
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:29,120
Speaker 4: he likes it and it's cathartic and it's like what

1175
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:30,719
Speaker 4: he enjoys to do, and it's how I grew up.

1176
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:33,160
Speaker 2: And that's awesome. I love I think that's awesome. And

1177
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:34,359
Speaker 2: I'm very much the other way.

1178
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:38,400
Speaker 4: And there's there's, there's there's I'm realizing how many things

1179
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:41,320
Speaker 4: that I am attached to social media and stuff that

1180
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:44,320
Speaker 4: maybe don't need to be so like I'm even trying

1181
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:47,040
Speaker 4: to be more controlled with it, not just like think

1182
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:49,600
Speaker 4: how can this go and be content all the time.

1183
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 4: But most guys were really really open to it. I'm

1184
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:58,200
Speaker 4: I'm more of a be a little bit cautious first,

1185
00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:01,520
Speaker 4: and then like push as they get more comfortable. And

1186
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:03,680
Speaker 4: so that's why we saw like a little bit more

1187
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:07,440
Speaker 4: of the other people as the blogs went on, that

1188
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:09,440
Speaker 4: one interesting thing, I like, I have no idea how

1189
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:12,040
Speaker 4: Max is gonna feel, right, Yeah, so it's probably something.

1190
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:14,480
Speaker 4: I'm like, Hey, I bring a camera around like a

1191
00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:17,200
Speaker 4: couple times a month, like for a day. Do you

1192
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:19,000
Speaker 4: have an issue with those? Because I don't know, like I,

1193
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:22,840
Speaker 4: you know, I he could have not wanted anything to

1194
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:23,600
Speaker 4: do with the Bower one.

1195
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:25,520
Speaker 2: I don't know. I genuinely don't know.

1196
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:28,239
Speaker 4: So I try to have the open and have those

1197
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:30,799
Speaker 4: conversations like do you if you dude, if you're like, dude,

1198
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:32,719
Speaker 4: I really hate that, I'm you will be. I will

1199
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:34,320
Speaker 4: be nowhere near you with it. Then I will just

1200
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:36,160
Speaker 4: make sure and if you are, I won't even have

1201
00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:36,880
Speaker 4: you in the background.

1202
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:37,759
Speaker 2: Just tell me.

1203
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:39,719
Speaker 4: And when I did that, most guys were like, oh,

1204
00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:41,719
Speaker 4: they weren't worried about it. And then most guys were

1205
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:43,040
Speaker 4: willing to just give it like one of these when

1206
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:45,439
Speaker 4: we went by, even Mike, and then Pete's.

1207
00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:47,919
Speaker 2: Like can I be like can we do? Like you know, Pete,

1208
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 2: He's like, can I do more? So?

1209
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:51,959
Speaker 4: And I'm like, yeah, Mike, yep. And have you dive around,

1210
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:53,719
Speaker 4: which was one of the funniest things. Ever, I think

1211
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:56,400
Speaker 4: that should have got more play than it did. But

1212
00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:58,920
Speaker 4: uh yeah, so guys were coming around on it. I

1213
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:01,880
Speaker 4: want to do more and after baseball I want to

1214
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:03,840
Speaker 4: do you know, Mark, you and I have talked about this.

1215
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:05,120
Speaker 4: I want to do a lot more of those types

1216
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:05,439
Speaker 4: of things.

1217
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:06,000
Speaker 2: Uh.

1218
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:08,200
Speaker 4: Anyways, I think that's gonna be the future of my

1219
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:12,560
Speaker 4: baseball affiliation, at least making content around sports, whether it's

1220
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:14,880
Speaker 4: commentating whatever. So it all kind of just comes together

1221
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:15,120
Speaker 4: like that.

1222
00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:17,839
Speaker 1: And then in terms of gaming, obviously, you know big

1223
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:19,799
Speaker 1: on Twitch, you got your game and YouTube channel, been

1224
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:21,719
Speaker 1: doing Minecraft a little bit recently, but a lot of

1225
00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:24,120
Speaker 1: people found out about you. I guess the gaming side

1226
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:26,480
Speaker 1: when you're playing Fortnite and Call of Duty and stuff.

1227
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:29,479
Speaker 1: So who on the Mets is like also? I guess

1228
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:31,120
Speaker 1: maybe not as big of a gamer as you, but

1229
00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:33,000
Speaker 1: who games with? You game with any of the guys?

1230
00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:34,520
Speaker 1: Is that like something you guys do on the road?

1231
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:35,560
Speaker 1: You play video games?

1232
00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:35,680
Speaker 2: Like?

1233
00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:36,960
Speaker 5: Is that a thing?

1234
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:37,560
Speaker 2: It's weird.

1235
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:40,440
Speaker 4: Most guys play after the game to wind down, and

1236
00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:43,000
Speaker 4: that's when I don't want to play games, So we

1237
00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:45,240
Speaker 4: actually don't line up a lot with like when we're playing.

1238
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:48,399
Speaker 4: Most guys play call of duty and they bring their

1239
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:52,240
Speaker 4: their and their console. They're playing consoles. So the issue

1240
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:55,319
Speaker 4: I have, especially on the road, is I play mouse

1241
00:52:55,360 --> 00:53:00,120
Speaker 4: and keyboard all shooters, and every desk is differ and

1242
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:03,800
Speaker 4: heights and the internets are different speeds and that stuff.

1243
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:06,840
Speaker 4: I'm very cognizant of those things. So ruins my experience

1244
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:10,239
Speaker 4: very quickly. If like the internet connection sucks or like

1245
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:13,680
Speaker 4: I'm like playing like way high Up or the desk

1246
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:15,400
Speaker 4: chair super Incumber one. I want to do something a

1247
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:18,040
Speaker 4: little more passive, something that's like a strategy game, something

1248
00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:19,560
Speaker 4: we don't have to aim. I don't have to be

1249
00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:21,880
Speaker 4: so pinpoint. So I tend to play those and then

1250
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:23,920
Speaker 4: we have very few guys to play that stuff. And

1251
00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:26,760
Speaker 4: with the show is a good one that can can translate.

1252
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:31,600
Speaker 4: Fortunately it's baseball again. Yeah, your may is like world class.

1253
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:34,640
Speaker 2: He he destroys dim you constantly.

1254
00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:36,840
Speaker 4: I guess they've ran into each other like four or

1255
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:39,879
Speaker 4: five times, and he's beat him every time, and he's like, dude,

1256
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:42,600
Speaker 4: I keep but I'm like I told Dimmy two. I

1257
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:44,279
Speaker 4: was like, dude, you got to know that the army

1258
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:47,080
Speaker 4: opens like five hundred packs a day. He's got every

1259
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:49,319
Speaker 4: player in the game, so like you're just not going

1260
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:51,560
Speaker 4: to beat his lineup unless you're up there with him.

1261
00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:52,760
Speaker 4: He's like, well, I'm a content creator.

1262
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:54,879
Speaker 2: I should have that. I'm like, but think about major

1263
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:58,080
Speaker 2: league salaries and all you're doing is buying packs. Uh.

1264
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:01,239
Speaker 2: But yeah, like I know Nimo Comfortho those.

1265
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:03,640
Speaker 4: Guys would play College Duty a little bit Warzone, And

1266
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:06,400
Speaker 4: to be honest, I'm just not really a fan of

1267
00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:08,439
Speaker 4: the of the Call of Duty.

1268
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:08,759
Speaker 1: Uh.

1269
00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:10,720
Speaker 2: And I know it's wildly popular.

1270
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:13,040
Speaker 4: Played it for a while, but it's just it's not

1271
00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:17,040
Speaker 4: my type of battle Royal So I I I know

1272
00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:19,160
Speaker 4: we said we had just played Minecraft recently.

1273
00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:21,279
Speaker 2: It's probably gonna be staying for a bit.

1274
00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:23,400
Speaker 1: It's chill, it's gotta be nice. You talked about like

1275
00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:25,759
Speaker 1: winding down, Like that's like a very much wind down game,

1276
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:26,600
Speaker 1: not war Zone.

1277
00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:29,880
Speaker 4: I'm a I'm such a nerd. I'm a nerd in

1278
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:33,560
Speaker 4: ways that like lore is really interesting to me. So

1279
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:35,480
Speaker 4: like people watch the Marvel movies or whatever, but I

1280
00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:39,040
Speaker 4: want to know like why, yes, right, but like I

1281
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:41,800
Speaker 4: all go down synopsis and holes and stuff, but I

1282
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:43,640
Speaker 4: would Lord of the Rings is my big thing, that

1283
00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:46,920
Speaker 4: whole the guy, the the the whole Tolkien universe and

1284
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:48,600
Speaker 4: then the story bind how he came up with it

1285
00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:50,480
Speaker 4: all is I don't know if you guys I have

1286
00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:53,760
Speaker 4: ever seen the Tolkien movie, but it's it's extremely interesting

1287
00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:56,400
Speaker 4: on how he like came up with it. He's like

1288
00:54:56,840 --> 00:54:59,680
Speaker 4: he's a got his doctorate in languages. That's and it

1289
00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:03,560
Speaker 4: made like that's what is project was that turned into

1290
00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:06,080
Speaker 4: that movie or that's book series that then turned into movie.

1291
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:10,400
Speaker 4: So that is a creative thing that I'm I've always

1292
00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:12,799
Speaker 4: been interested in how created, Like how do you even

1293
00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:14,920
Speaker 4: come how do you create a world in your That's

1294
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:18,640
Speaker 4: crazy to me? And so I'm a terrible writer and

1295
00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:21,200
Speaker 4: I've always I've tried to write a book like a

1296
00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:23,640
Speaker 4: fan like a like a fiction book, like four or

1297
00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:25,200
Speaker 4: five times in my life, like when I was younger,

1298
00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:26,880
Speaker 4: and I'm just not a good writer. I'd read it

1299
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:30,160
Speaker 4: back and this is awful. I don't want to uh,

1300
00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:32,160
Speaker 4: And then I'm like, so I made music for a

1301
00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:33,560
Speaker 4: long time. I've always looked for.

1302
00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:34,239
Speaker 2: A creative out.

1303
00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:36,040
Speaker 4: That's why I started streaming, because I could be creative

1304
00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:37,960
Speaker 4: and funny and goofy and like think of come up

1305
00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:39,600
Speaker 4: with good ideas and see if I can execute them.

1306
00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:43,120
Speaker 4: That dynamic I really really love. And then so then

1307
00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:45,680
Speaker 4: i started playing Minecraft, which is just a saying box

1308
00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:48,279
Speaker 4: game and you can do whatever you want. So I'm

1309
00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:52,279
Speaker 4: literally right now created creating world and then I'm like

1310
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:55,440
Speaker 4: writing Laura in the background along with it, Like so

1311
00:55:55,560 --> 00:55:57,799
Speaker 4: basically gave me a template like these are the things

1312
00:55:57,840 --> 00:56:00,319
Speaker 4: that how the game works. How can you make cup

1313
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:02,880
Speaker 4: why they're like that? And I was like yeah, And

1314
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:04,279
Speaker 4: so I just kept pulling on the thread and I

1315
00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:06,719
Speaker 4: just keep going and I'm like, I don't know why.

1316
00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:08,440
Speaker 2: I'm having so much fun. It's the nerdiest thing I've

1317
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:08,839
Speaker 2: ever done.

1318
00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:11,960
Speaker 4: But I'm literally writing like a whole, like just writing

1319
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:13,600
Speaker 4: along and then I'm like building the thing and then

1320
00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:15,640
Speaker 4: riding along and building things like why why.

1321
00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:16,120
Speaker 2: Is this here? And what?

1322
00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:19,120
Speaker 4: And it's just allowed me to be really creative. And

1323
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:21,239
Speaker 4: baseball doesn't like you get to be very creative. It's

1324
00:56:21,239 --> 00:56:24,120
Speaker 4: the same thing every day. So I'm realizing that that's

1325
00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:27,440
Speaker 4: something that I really wanted in my life, and it's

1326
00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:29,520
Speaker 4: scratching that itch. I don't know if I'm ever gonna

1327
00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:31,480
Speaker 4: share the whole thing. I don't know if I'm gonna

1328
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:34,680
Speaker 4: ever put in the book or or put it anywhere.

1329
00:56:34,719 --> 00:56:36,520
Speaker 4: I don't know it's for me. It could be for me,

1330
00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:40,120
Speaker 4: but it's I work on it. I'm smiling the whole time.

1331
00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:42,759
Speaker 4: I think that's worth it. So that's why I'm playing

1332
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:44,799
Speaker 4: that game so much. But there's a series I'm doing

1333
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:47,720
Speaker 4: where I'm showing that world and I'm building. If anyone's

1334
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:51,080
Speaker 4: interested in it, it's gonna be uh we got there's

1335
00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:53,879
Speaker 4: only like three episodes out, two episodes out, but I've

1336
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:54,759
Speaker 4: recorded ten.

1337
00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:56,640
Speaker 2: Oh they're coming.

1338
00:56:57,000 --> 00:56:59,040
Speaker 3: That's a great teaser for all the METS up listeners.

1339
00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:00,759
Speaker 3: You mentioned the music because are we ever going to

1340
00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:01,919
Speaker 3: see DJ hay Beef again.

1341
00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:03,960
Speaker 2: I have a set of turntables at the field. I

1342
00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:06,280
Speaker 2: dropped the ball last year. I only did it like twice.

1343
00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:09,640
Speaker 4: They were just sitting there and and and Lindor bought

1344
00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:12,480
Speaker 4: us speakers, like good ones, and he's like, dude, I

1345
00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:13,080
Speaker 4: bought those four.

1346
00:57:13,120 --> 00:57:13,960
Speaker 2: He never even used them.

1347
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:15,320
Speaker 4: I'm like, yeah, I kind of feel bad about that,

1348
00:57:16,680 --> 00:57:18,680
Speaker 4: but I left it and I would love to get

1349
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:21,280
Speaker 4: I busted out my music stuff recently too, or like

1350
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:23,320
Speaker 4: this off season a bit, and started to dabble in

1351
00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:27,880
Speaker 4: producing again because I love having an idea and trying

1352
00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:30,840
Speaker 4: to make it happen. Unfortunately, I'm gonna have to relearn

1353
00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:32,640
Speaker 4: a lot of stuff and that's again time consuming. And

1354
00:57:32,680 --> 00:57:34,120
Speaker 4: now I have all these other things that I'm into.

1355
00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:36,240
Speaker 4: Like I said, I get really excited and I get

1356
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:36,920
Speaker 4: way into stuff.

1357
00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:38,760
Speaker 2: So we'll see.

1358
00:57:38,840 --> 00:57:41,120
Speaker 4: But I think that the djaying, at least I have

1359
00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:42,720
Speaker 4: the I have all the music and everything. It's all

1360
00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:45,439
Speaker 4: ready to go, so like that should be very easy.

1361
00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:48,040
Speaker 4: There's no setup. Usually that's what kills me. So I'm

1362
00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:49,440
Speaker 4: gonna try to do that more. Maybe do it learn

1363
00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:52,280
Speaker 4: instead of shagging at BP, just played the music behind

1364
00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:55,200
Speaker 4: the whatever and and just practice and make it a

1365
00:57:55,240 --> 00:57:57,680
Speaker 4: whole thing. And I don't know, that's one of those

1366
00:57:57,720 --> 00:57:59,720
Speaker 4: things I was talking about earlier, just having fun at

1367
00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:02,480
Speaker 4: the game. It doesn't always have to be like me

1368
00:58:02,680 --> 00:58:05,520
Speaker 4: doing baseball stuff. I could just be to bring another

1369
00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:07,200
Speaker 4: hobby of mine into the field and share it with

1370
00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:11,560
Speaker 4: people and fit it in somehow. And I think that's

1371
00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:14,560
Speaker 4: a really interesting way to make keep clubhous a light

1372
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:17,360
Speaker 4: and have fun and just make the monotony because it's

1373
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:23,480
Speaker 4: every day and it gets some days. Really, I mean,

1374
00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:27,520
Speaker 4: I love baseball. It's day one fifteen. We're still fifty left,

1375
00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:29,840
Speaker 4: you know, like sometimes those days happen, then you got

1376
00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:32,240
Speaker 4: to find a way to get excited again, so that

1377
00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:32,720
Speaker 4: might help.

1378
00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:34,720
Speaker 1: Maybe now we're coming up here on an hour, we

1379
00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:36,520
Speaker 1: don't want to keep you too much longer. You talked

1380
00:58:36,520 --> 00:58:38,880
Speaker 1: about being so creative, you talked about having fun with baseball,

1381
00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:41,400
Speaker 1: and you've done such a great job marketing yourself. If

1382
00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:44,840
Speaker 1: you had to market baseball, what would be something maybe

1383
00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:46,920
Speaker 1: that you would change or something that you would focus

1384
00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:49,680
Speaker 1: more on to help grow this sport because we've seen

1385
00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:51,240
Speaker 1: the growth recent in the last few years, but it

1386
00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:53,200
Speaker 1: seems like there still can be more. It seems like

1387
00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:55,920
Speaker 1: we're still missing that next big leap forward.

1388
00:58:56,200 --> 00:58:59,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that the thing that's grown is the

1389
00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:00,840
Speaker 4: amount of money that comes somebodies are willing to pay

1390
00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:04,560
Speaker 4: the Major League Baseball to be affiliated. That's the growth

1391
00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:07,880
Speaker 4: we're seeing. But in terms of eyeballs, which at the

1392
00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:10,040
Speaker 4: end of the day, and every entertainment industry has to

1393
00:59:10,080 --> 00:59:13,000
Speaker 4: focus on eyeballs and bring them in and continue to

1394
00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:16,080
Speaker 4: have turnover as people age out of things or get

1395
00:59:16,240 --> 00:59:18,360
Speaker 4: like stop watching baseball so much because they're older and

1396
00:59:18,440 --> 00:59:22,000
Speaker 4: they don't do that anymore. I mean, that's kind of

1397
00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:25,680
Speaker 4: how what's helped the game stay or stay healthy is

1398
00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:28,080
Speaker 4: because the older you get, baseball actually gets easier to

1399
00:59:28,120 --> 00:59:31,240
Speaker 4: watch a little bit more laid back nightly ritual when

1400
00:59:31,240 --> 00:59:32,720
Speaker 4: you're not going out and doing stuff as much or

1401
00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:34,960
Speaker 4: in retirement age. So watching baseball actually makes a lot

1402
00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:38,880
Speaker 4: of sense. You're nightly ritual, and so we got to

1403
00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:40,320
Speaker 4: get it in front of the people who are younger

1404
00:59:40,600 --> 00:59:44,600
Speaker 4: and get it part of their routine, and swiping is

1405
00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:48,400
Speaker 4: their routine. So, yes, we have lots of Major League

1406
00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:53,680
Speaker 4: Baseball channels, they have a kicktok and they have the channels, right,

1407
00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:57,480
Speaker 4: but people aren't going to search for the official channel.

1408
00:59:57,680 --> 01:00:01,400
Speaker 4: What they want is people the commune building content, like

1409
01:00:01,520 --> 01:00:04,040
Speaker 4: taking something and memifying it and then having that just

1410
01:00:04,080 --> 01:00:06,240
Speaker 4: get a life of its own and then everyone's talking

1411
01:00:06,280 --> 01:00:09,800
Speaker 4: about it. That's how things That's how media works now,

1412
01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:12,280
Speaker 4: at least amongst the age group that they want to meet.

1413
01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:15,080
Speaker 4: And we do a terrible job of that because unfortunately,

1414
01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:19,840
Speaker 4: if that's the way you democratize the content and let

1415
01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:23,800
Speaker 4: it continue to spread organically, you relinquish some of the

1416
01:00:23,840 --> 01:00:26,480
Speaker 4: control over that IP. And they don't want to relinquish

1417
01:00:26,520 --> 01:00:29,200
Speaker 4: any control over any IP because they can get paid

1418
01:00:29,240 --> 01:00:31,280
Speaker 4: upfront in those big deals that we're talking about before.

1419
01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:34,600
Speaker 4: So they feel like they're relinquishing leverage again, which we

1420
01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:37,000
Speaker 4: see that theme a lot, and they're not. That's just

1421
01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:39,360
Speaker 4: the group, the hive mind, the group of people that

1422
01:00:39,440 --> 01:00:40,240
Speaker 4: makes those decisions.

1423
01:00:40,600 --> 01:00:43,440
Speaker 2: That is not something that they like. That's uncomfortable.

1424
01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:45,320
Speaker 4: They don't like to do that, they don't like proposing

1425
01:00:45,360 --> 01:00:48,080
Speaker 4: it to other people who are above them, namely the

1426
01:00:48,200 --> 01:00:50,800
Speaker 4: owners of the teams that are also old school and

1427
01:00:50,840 --> 01:00:53,640
Speaker 4: have made their money and their whole life upfront. It's

1428
01:00:53,680 --> 01:00:56,920
Speaker 4: been a front paywall stipe situation. I get the money first,

1429
01:00:57,320 --> 01:00:59,600
Speaker 4: and then we give you the product right when in

1430
01:00:59,720 --> 01:01:02,480
Speaker 4: reaction you can get give stuff for free. This is

1431
01:01:02,520 --> 01:01:04,520
Speaker 4: how the economy is starting to shift. And then you

1432
01:01:04,640 --> 01:01:07,080
Speaker 4: get the you can there's you get the potential to

1433
01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:10,200
Speaker 4: scale more than that paywall would have ever scaled. So

1434
01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:13,280
Speaker 4: one's more linear and steady. The other one's possibly hotty stick.

1435
01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:15,040
Speaker 4: We got to go back into the hotty stick way,

1436
01:01:15,400 --> 01:01:16,840
Speaker 4: not back into it. We need to get into it

1437
01:01:16,840 --> 01:01:18,520
Speaker 4: a little bit more. We need to We need to

1438
01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:23,040
Speaker 4: I think help people like you guys who are spreading

1439
01:01:23,080 --> 01:01:26,880
Speaker 4: the game their passion for baseball in those modern channels

1440
01:01:27,400 --> 01:01:29,560
Speaker 4: and and it doesn't even I don't even I don't

1441
01:01:29,560 --> 01:01:31,320
Speaker 4: even feel like it needs to be like a you're

1442
01:01:31,360 --> 01:01:33,080
Speaker 4: partnered with the MLB because they want to do that,

1443
01:01:33,240 --> 01:01:35,760
Speaker 4: even like no, just like here's some stuff, go to

1444
01:01:35,760 --> 01:01:37,080
Speaker 4: see what you do with it, and then if you

1445
01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:39,280
Speaker 4: get to a certain size, then we can do stuff together.

1446
01:01:39,320 --> 01:01:41,480
Speaker 4: Bring in to be a guest commentator and stuff. And

1447
01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:44,920
Speaker 4: and uh, because the people you guys reach are younger

1448
01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:47,640
Speaker 4: and people play them will be the show.

1449
01:01:47,640 --> 01:01:51,080
Speaker 2: For example, they're younger, they should be pushing that really

1450
01:01:51,120 --> 01:01:52,520
Speaker 2: really hard during tournaments and.

1451
01:01:52,520 --> 01:01:55,959
Speaker 4: Things like Madden and the NFL did the Madden League

1452
01:01:56,000 --> 01:01:59,480
Speaker 4: and the NFL would host that the championships, right, that

1453
01:01:59,640 --> 01:01:59,920
Speaker 4: was big.

1454
01:02:00,600 --> 01:02:02,280
Speaker 3: They used to ride that bus across the country and

1455
01:02:02,320 --> 01:02:03,840
Speaker 3: play and then until they got the Times.

1456
01:02:03,680 --> 01:02:06,720
Speaker 4: Square exactly like it was a big event and it

1457
01:02:07,040 --> 01:02:09,040
Speaker 4: wasn't about even bringing gamers in. It was just like

1458
01:02:09,360 --> 01:02:13,480
Speaker 4: they're younger, they rep they show off their love for

1459
01:02:13,600 --> 01:02:16,680
Speaker 4: the game by playing the video game, like they know

1460
01:02:16,800 --> 01:02:19,440
Speaker 4: all the players and they watch football too. It's not

1461
01:02:19,920 --> 01:02:22,560
Speaker 4: they're not just gamers that were like trying to cross over.

1462
01:02:22,760 --> 01:02:24,760
Speaker 4: It's they're fans of the game. That's just one of

1463
01:02:24,800 --> 01:02:27,080
Speaker 4: the ways that they represent their fandom. We need to

1464
01:02:27,120 --> 01:02:29,200
Speaker 4: do more of that stuff. But I think it starts

1465
01:02:29,240 --> 01:02:31,960
Speaker 4: with getting content in front of eyeballs that are of

1466
01:02:32,080 --> 01:02:35,240
Speaker 4: the age that they're looking for and giving a lot

1467
01:02:35,280 --> 01:02:37,560
Speaker 4: of freedom for people who are willing to make the

1468
01:02:37,600 --> 01:02:40,680
Speaker 4: content around because it's mutually beneficial. You're spreading their content

1469
01:02:40,840 --> 01:02:43,080
Speaker 4: while at the same time growing yourself. And that is

1470
01:02:43,160 --> 01:02:46,880
Speaker 4: how that's how the media economy works now, and we're

1471
01:02:46,960 --> 01:02:49,360
Speaker 4: just not we're not leaning into it hard enough at all.

1472
01:02:49,600 --> 01:02:53,720
Speaker 4: And unfortunately, when TV deals start to dwindle and the

1473
01:02:53,880 --> 01:02:56,120
Speaker 4: NBC's of the world don't have as much power or

1474
01:02:56,200 --> 01:03:01,400
Speaker 4: money because they're dinosaurs. Yeah, what do you do when

1475
01:03:01,520 --> 01:03:03,240
Speaker 4: when you do when a major company goes in, we'll

1476
01:03:03,240 --> 01:03:05,160
Speaker 4: give you one billion dollars to put your games on

1477
01:03:05,280 --> 01:03:07,720
Speaker 4: our channels, and then that just goes away.

1478
01:03:07,760 --> 01:03:08,040
Speaker 2: What do you do?

1479
01:03:08,720 --> 01:03:12,320
Speaker 4: And so well, what you do is you lean hard

1480
01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:16,200
Speaker 4: into gambling evidently, so we'll see how that goes. That's

1481
01:03:16,200 --> 01:03:19,880
Speaker 4: a whole nother thing. No, Now, now we're putting lots

1482
01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:21,840
Speaker 4: of money, and now now people are losing and gaining

1483
01:03:21,880 --> 01:03:22,240
Speaker 4: money on.

1484
01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:24,280
Speaker 2: My performance way more than the use two. So that's

1485
01:03:24,440 --> 01:03:27,080
Speaker 2: making it much much much better. In the old social landscape.

1486
01:03:27,920 --> 01:03:30,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure with New York legalizing sports betting, it

1487
01:03:30,560 --> 01:03:33,000
Speaker 1: just gets a little bit more toxic now with what's

1488
01:03:33,000 --> 01:03:34,240
Speaker 1: gonna happen every single.

1489
01:03:34,040 --> 01:03:36,440
Speaker 3: Game, Joe from Joe from Staten Island's gonna have more

1490
01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:36,800
Speaker 3: to say.

1491
01:03:37,080 --> 01:03:38,320
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be honest. Uh.

1492
01:03:38,960 --> 01:03:42,160
Speaker 4: Recently it's been Joe from Trenton. Trenton's been coming at

1493
01:03:42,200 --> 01:03:45,080
Speaker 4: me hard. I'm in the same state. Why do you

1494
01:03:45,120 --> 01:03:45,920
Speaker 4: hate me so much?

1495
01:03:46,160 --> 01:03:47,920
Speaker 1: It's basically Philadelphia disgusting.

1496
01:03:48,080 --> 01:03:51,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, Trevor cracked me out.

1497
01:03:52,520 --> 01:03:54,800
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for coming on. We talked to

1498
01:03:54,840 --> 01:03:56,520
Speaker 1: you for an hour, probably a little bit longer than

1499
01:03:56,520 --> 01:03:58,240
Speaker 1: we thought we were gonna be but uh, it was

1500
01:03:58,280 --> 01:04:00,560
Speaker 1: an honest pleasure to have you on here as our

1501
01:04:00,680 --> 01:04:04,560
Speaker 1: first major league player representative. Of course we bestowed that

1502
01:04:04,640 --> 01:04:07,880
Speaker 1: honor on you at the beginning closing remarks. Here tell

1503
01:04:07,920 --> 01:04:10,600
Speaker 1: everybody where to find you all your social media. I

1504
01:04:10,680 --> 01:04:13,040
Speaker 1: think you want to plug and we appreciate having you on.

1505
01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:16,560
Speaker 5: Besides your lore, Thanks for having me.

1506
01:04:16,600 --> 01:04:20,240
Speaker 2: I appreciate that you know, and who are we kidding

1507
01:04:20,400 --> 01:04:22,320
Speaker 2: that we went an hour and five minutes because of me.

1508
01:04:24,040 --> 01:04:26,160
Speaker 4: I talk so much, But thanks for having me. Thanks

1509
01:04:26,200 --> 01:04:28,240
Speaker 4: for letting me kind of go and you can find

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Speaker 4: me on Twitter. I'm Trevor May. I have two YouTube channels. Obviously,

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Speaker 4: you guys are the baseball you know, bigger, bigger baseball

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Speaker 4: fan fan base, probably than the video games. So if

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Speaker 4: Trevor May Baseball, just Trevor Space May dot space Baseball.

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Speaker 4: We actually have two new videos coming out very soon there.

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Speaker 4: I've started to ramp that up again. We did a

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Speaker 4: we did a workout vlog yesterday just showing showing what

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Speaker 4: I've been doing just to stay in shape with the

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Speaker 4: aw A Withiffle guys who I did a video with recently.

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Speaker 4: They came over and helped me work out or play

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Speaker 4: catch with me and stuff, and we're part of that.

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Speaker 4: And then we have really cool one on one series

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Speaker 4: explaining all the different pitches and what like. There's six

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Speaker 4: different fastballs. I explain all those and what we mean

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Speaker 4: when we're talking about those, and we'll be the show fans.

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Speaker 2: You'll like that one. And then my other channels, I'm

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Speaker 2: Trevor ma on YouTube.

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Speaker 4: That's the Minecraft series and if you want to, I

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Speaker 4: made some new social media's just for the Minecraft stuff.

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Speaker 2: So there's like four people out there like, yeah, I

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Speaker 2: would like to see that.

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Speaker 4: Just search maycrafter on both Instagram and Twitter, because I'm

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Speaker 4: realizing nobody cares on my other Twitter, and I'm just

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Speaker 4: not gonna talk about it every much. I retweeted every

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Speaker 4: once in a while, but everything else, like as I'm

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Speaker 4: building stuff and coming up with ideas and stuff, I

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Speaker 4: put it all over there as a little bit of

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Speaker 4: a historical document. And then Instagram trev May sixty five

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Speaker 4: and I'm Trevor May on TikTok and everything else. But Instagram,

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Speaker 4: Instagram is the only one. I'm trev Ma sixty five.

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Speaker 4: Everything else is I'm Triva May Boom.

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Speaker 1: There it is, Trevor. Thank you so much for coming on.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate it, and hopefully we'll be able to talk to

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Speaker 1: you soon, maybe during the baseball season, if that ever happens.

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Speaker 4: The season where there's baseball. Yeah, now we will. We

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Speaker 4: will just have faith, guys, we'll get there. But thanks

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Speaker 4: for having me, guys, have good one.

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Speaker 1: That was good. That was that was pretty fun.

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Speaker 3: Huh yeah, that was really good. I would love to

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Speaker 3: talk to Trevor like almost on a weekly basis. He's

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Speaker 3: super fun, like knowledgeable, he's a great breadth of things

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Speaker 3: he can talk about. It's great to have a conversation

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Speaker 3: like that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he was a really really good interview, really really

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Speaker 1: good guest, got a lot of insight, and I'm super

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Speaker 1: excited to see what he does this year. It was

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Speaker 1: fun to pick his brain too, especially hearing what he

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Speaker 1: had to say about Hefner. I think was really cool

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Speaker 1: because we've been gassing that guy up for a year now.

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Speaker 1: To hear from the players is awesome, and.

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Speaker 3: Even just that was a big reason that he even

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Speaker 3: wanted to sign with the Mets last year. Also really

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Speaker 3: cool to talk about how proud he is to be

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Speaker 3: a Met and the fact that the Mets are one

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Speaker 3: of those premier franchise in baseball, compared them to Real Madrid,

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Speaker 3: which that's pretty cool.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he gives Man city too. It probably meant Man

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Speaker 1: and you to be fair, but I mean like an.

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Speaker 3: Uventus, which is also a step back. Toreen's not the

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Speaker 3: best city in Italy.

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Speaker 1: But think about the difference in just the Mets outlook.

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Speaker 1: A couple of years ago, you'd get the rare guy

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Speaker 1: who would be proud to be a Met. But it's

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Speaker 1: almost like because he grew up a Mets fan, like

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Speaker 1: Brad Brock, who was like, I'm so excited to be

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Speaker 1: a Met. I grew up a Mets fan. Now you're

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Speaker 1: getting guys who grew up in Washington and spent their

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Speaker 1: career with the Twins who were like, I'm with the

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Speaker 1: New York Mets. This is sick, Like I'm so pumped it.

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Speaker 1: Like you said, it was really cool to hear him

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Speaker 1: be proud to be a Met, which I don't think

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Speaker 1: a lot of players aren't proud, But you don't hear

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Speaker 1: it too often.

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Speaker 3: Well, I think just maybe our own minds and like

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Speaker 3: our own perceptions kind of get bogged down by the

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Speaker 3: wealth of people on Twitter who liked to law Mets

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Speaker 3: and the assholes all the time. I think in reality,

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Speaker 3: a lot of players who are inside his opinion actually

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Speaker 3: means something. Do find this organization to be prestigious and

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Speaker 3: one that's exciting to be a part of, And that

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Speaker 3: is all we can ask for as Mets fans.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and make sure you guys go follow Trevor on

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Speaker 1: all social media. He plugged that just now. At the outro,

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Speaker 1: Me and James Jeter had no range Draftnick Mark, thank

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Speaker 1: you guys for listening to episode number seventy six of

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Speaker 1: the Mets of Up podcast drop us a five star

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Speaker 1: rating and review on Apple and Spotify.

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Speaker 3: Hopefully, the next time we talk to you, guys, we

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Speaker 3: actually know when baseball is going to start. There's a chance,

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Speaker 3: it's a chance, a pretty good chance.

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Speaker 5: We're not going to do another recording until after the

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Speaker 5: twenty eighth.

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Speaker 1: There we go, and honestly, maybe maybe if baseball does

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Speaker 1: come back quick, or we'll do it, you know, emergency

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Speaker 1: episode like we do with Max Sures or a space.

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Speaker 2: Or oh a space.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe we'll throw fire up a space. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: you definitely need to be following me and James on Twitter.

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Speaker 1: Then at Draft Neckmark Ajier had no range, so you

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Speaker 1: don't miss out on that. Otherwise, we're wrapping it up here, guys,

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Speaker 1: Thanks for listening, thanks for watching, and we'll see you

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Speaker 1: on the next episode of that.

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Speaker 5: That's the podcast. Peace Out, peace out, guys, thanks for listening.

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Speaker 2: The New The New

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Speaker 3: Ne