1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio Odo, this is up on Game Hot 2 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:09,960 Speaker 1: Bye Hushbinzanada for the touchdown. This is the show for you. 3 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:17,919 Speaker 1: Watch LeVar two with LeVar Aary Tet, TJ, Hushmnzanna and 4 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:19,919 Speaker 1: Plaxico burres j. 5 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 2: I love the way you break the game down. 6 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:23,800 Speaker 3: L A Man, you were jacking by my flag number 7 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:25,959 Speaker 3: two overall and that nine and plaques man, you were 8 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 3: seven five seven product. 9 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 4: Ain't everybody who Flack was growing up around her? 10 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:32,239 Speaker 1: Many agree of the best to ever do it on 11 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 1: and off the field. Live from the tire rack dot 12 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:39,200 Speaker 1: Com studio. So Fox Sports Radio, here's pro bowlers, LaVar 13 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 1: airing test, TJ, Hushmanzanna and Silver Bowled Chimpion Plaxico Burres 14 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:46,879 Speaker 1: All right, that's. 15 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:49,880 Speaker 5: Right, Welcome into our two. Hope you enjoyed our one 16 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:52,479 Speaker 5: off you were there. If you're just now tuning in, 17 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 5: we appreciate you tuning in. And if you missed an 18 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 5: hour one, don't worry about it. 19 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 6: You can go wherever it is that you get your. 20 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 5: Podcast and listen to the podcast up on game. You 21 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 5: also could get extended content if you'd like. Look up 22 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:09,679 Speaker 5: up on Game Presents. You got a great, great lineup 23 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 5: of shows there as well. All Right, we got a 24 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:17,479 Speaker 5: lot to get you in such a short amount of time. 25 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 5: We'll talk about Derek Carr in a matter of moments, 26 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 5: but first before we get to that, you know, I 27 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:27,959 Speaker 5: had an opportunity to go down to the Beverly Hills 28 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 5: Hotel and do one on ones with with Earl Spinch 29 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 5: Junior and with Terrence Budd Crawford for this mega fight 30 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 5: that's taking place shots out the Rett Butler and pretty 31 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 5: left hook on up on game presents for for hooking 32 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 5: up and setting up the interview opportunity. 33 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 6: It's interesting. 34 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 5: I want you guys to listen to this because and 35 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 5: preparing for what we do, wouldn't you guys say, film 36 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 5: study is probably maybe the most critical aspect of preparation 37 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 5: and our profession watching film, taking notes on the film. 38 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 5: Would you guys agree disagree? What would your take on 39 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 5: it be? 40 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 7: Film study will will give you an idea of how 41 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:23,959 Speaker 7: a guy plays. But you got to take into account 42 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:29,360 Speaker 7: he ain't gonna do the same thing on you that 43 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 7: he did with somebody else because you, guys moved differently, 44 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 7: you play differently. That level of fear that he may 45 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 7: have with you as opposed to the guy that you're 46 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:41,079 Speaker 7: watching on You just don't know what he's going through, 47 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 7: but it would give you an understanding of how he moves. 48 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 7: But no one guy is gonna play the same versus 49 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 7: two different players. 50 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 6: Man. 51 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 8: Film study for me, Man was ninety nine percent of 52 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 8: my game, you know, going into a Sunday understanding the 53 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 8: tendencies of how defensive back would play if he was 54 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:05,800 Speaker 8: in press coverage, off coverage. Well, how what kind of 55 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 8: leverage you would play with me? If I knew I 56 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:10,639 Speaker 8: was gonna be in a bracket situation. He's playing over 57 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:14,079 Speaker 8: the top, he's playing underneath. And what I used to 58 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:18,639 Speaker 8: study was it was basically, you know how guys played 59 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:22,360 Speaker 8: in certain down and distances. You know, second in two 60 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:25,240 Speaker 8: to four, you know third and three to seven, you know, 61 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:27,920 Speaker 8: third and fifteen or whatever the case may be. I 62 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 8: justly checked for tendencies man, and and see you know, 63 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:34,360 Speaker 8: if they were like a bucket ball guy and you 64 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 8: know thirty long, or were they trying to keep me 65 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 8: in the same vision as a quarterback so he could 66 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 8: get a better jump on the ball to you know, 67 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 8: to compete with the ball on third down and different 68 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 8: things like that. Man, it's understanding blitzes, and you know, 69 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 8: I even went as far as to understanding fronts, you know, 70 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 8: the double muggy and the a gaps, you know, three 71 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 8: four wide nine. It gave me I was more subject 72 00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 8: to a wheel of free state. They if if the 73 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 8: defense end was kicked, you know, three four yards outside 74 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 8: of the tackle. So me going into the game, man, 75 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 8: that was everything you know, you know for my game, 76 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 8: and it helps tremendously. Man, where you got a beat 77 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 8: on a guy and you understand what he has a 78 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:17,360 Speaker 8: tendency to do in a certain situation that's allowed. He 79 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 8: used to play faster and use all your ability. You 80 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 8: know that that you have. So I was always a 81 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:26,720 Speaker 8: film guy, man, and this understanding you know what those 82 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 8: guys who want to do. Even going down to the 83 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 8: Super Bowl. You know, obviously we played the the the 84 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:36,480 Speaker 8: Patriots in Week sixteen, and I got into such a 85 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 8: similar situation to where you know, they were jumping into 86 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 8: a blitz zero. And for some reason, I watched the 87 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 8: three or four games before that and Ellis House he 88 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 8: would always back up to the to the goal line 89 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 8: and play inside and he would stop his feet. And 90 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 8: I said to myself before the Rouhimer said, listen, if 91 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 8: this man backs up like I seen on film and 92 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 8: he stops his feet at the goal line in coach zero, 93 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 8: even make a move, I' much just run right bomb 94 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:04,719 Speaker 8: and I quitit all that minute, just taking the time 95 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:08,159 Speaker 8: to study him and understand what he was going to do. 96 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 5: I think both in a lot of sports, it's very scientific, 97 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 5: right Like it's it's kind of you know, I count 98 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 5: to three when I pass rush because I know, unless 99 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:22,239 Speaker 5: it's a run or if it's like a quick type 100 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 5: of screenplayer or whatever, that offensive linement is going to 101 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 5: kick three times before he stops to try to do 102 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 5: what he's going to do. 103 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 6: Does he have long arms? Does he have short arms? 104 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 5: You know, we can't hide what our DNA as a 105 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:37,279 Speaker 5: player is going to be no matter who we are. 106 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 5: So I always felt it was interesting to find the tendencies, 107 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 5: even though you may play me differently and you may 108 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 5: do things to try to kind of switch up. Because 109 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 5: I got caught a few times, like I used to 110 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:51,479 Speaker 5: leap frog dudes in college and people will be like, 111 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:54,159 Speaker 5: how'd you do it? How did you know when to 112 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 5: actually leap over a dude versus do something else? And 113 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 5: I said, I learned the tendencies of what they're willing 114 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 5: to do. If a guy is going to commit to 115 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 5: chop blocking me, his eyes immediately go to his target. 116 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:11,719 Speaker 5: So before I even get to you, I saw his 117 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:13,359 Speaker 5: eyes and his head drop. 118 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 6: I'm a leap frog. You you know what I mean. 119 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 5: If it's a you mentioned down in distance, if it's 120 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:21,279 Speaker 5: a short down in distance, and I know the tendencies 121 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 5: of the team. Okay, when I did the LeVar leap, 122 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:26,160 Speaker 5: which is be the twenty fifth anniversary this year. By 123 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:28,719 Speaker 5: the way, make sure you check out for a bibblehead. 124 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:31,919 Speaker 5: We'll get your bibblehead at some point. But I in 125 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 5: that play study Illinois. Illinois on any short down yardage 126 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 5: play where they needed to get where they wanted to go, 127 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 5: ran out of the huddle soon as the quarterback got 128 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 5: under center. They went on first sound and they were 129 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 5: low and they're because they were chopping off off of 130 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 5: the line. Sure enough it was it was fourth and short. 131 00:06:57,279 --> 00:07:00,479 Speaker 5: This was a great drive for them. Boom they come 132 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:03,160 Speaker 5: sprinting out of the out of the huddle. Yep, there's 133 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 5: the first one. Check it off. They got low and 134 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:08,040 Speaker 5: they're in there and they're in their stands they're heavy 135 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 5: on their hands. There's the second one. Here comes the 136 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 5: quarterback running under center. There's the third one. I'm going 137 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 5: as soon as he gets under the center, I'm going 138 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 5: if I if I'm off sides and they get the 139 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 5: first down. 140 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 6: Then I played the hill. 141 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 5: But if they do exactly what it is that I 142 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 5: watched over and over and over again, I'm gonna I'm 143 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 5: gonna leap over this line and I'm gonna make this play. 144 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 5: And that's exactly what happened. The reason why I tell 145 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 5: this story, guys, is this week's up on Game Conversations 146 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 5: with a Legend Earl Spence Junior and my man Terrence 147 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 5: Budd Crawford. They talked about their opinions and how they 148 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 5: approach film study. Take a listen. 149 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 1: Love Conversations with a Legend and now this is your 150 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 1: jendary moment. 151 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 5: It's all about film study where I come from. So 152 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 5: my confidence going into a game was always based off 153 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 5: of I'm watching my opponents so much that I know 154 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 5: my opponent is going to do what I'm anticipating him 155 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 5: to do. Is that the same approach that you take 156 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 5: and getting ready for the fights. 157 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 4: Well, for me, I'm so much a fan of the sport, 158 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 4: like I didn't. I didn't have to watch like these first, 159 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 4: like these last, like ten guys, I don't have to 160 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:33,960 Speaker 4: watch them because I watched them all the time. Like 161 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 4: tans Croft, I've been watching tans Craft, for Sean Porter, 162 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:39,599 Speaker 4: Dan Garcia, all these guys. I've been watching them, and 163 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 4: I've been watching them so much that I don't have 164 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 4: to go and watch they fights because I already know 165 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 4: the things they do. I know how they fight, because 166 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 4: I'm a student of the game. Like sometimes I watch film, 167 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 4: I'm just watching how he movies feed, or watching how 168 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:57,560 Speaker 4: you react when you get hit with a good shot. 169 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:00,120 Speaker 4: You know, just certain things like that that I want, 170 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 4: and I pay attention to it and been paying attention 171 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 4: to that. I'm so familiar with him already. I don't 172 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 4: have to watch him because me just being a fan, 173 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 4: I've been watching him fight, you know, for the longiest 174 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 4: and I've been watching all his fights and not even 175 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:16,719 Speaker 4: knowing I was gonna fight him, I've been watched him fight. 176 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 5: I'm gonna ask you the same question that I asked 177 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 5: your opponent. I always sat and I was a film watcher, 178 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 5: watched a ton of film, film, film, film, rewind rewind rewind. 179 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 6: What is your way of preparing? 180 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 3: No opponent is gonna fight me the same way they 181 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 3: thought they previous supponent or any other opponent they faced. 182 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:41,200 Speaker 3: So I don't get into much of film watching because 183 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:43,440 Speaker 3: film marching can. 184 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 6: Mislead you in a lot of ways. 185 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 3: I leave that to my coaches, and they prepare me 186 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 3: to the best of availability, and come fight night, it 187 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 3: always work out because if I'm at the top of 188 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 3: my it doesn't matter what you do or how you 189 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 3: do it. I'm going to make my adjustments on the fly, 190 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 3: and the rest is downhill for my opponents. 191 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 6: All right. 192 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 5: So the first voice you heard was Earl Spence Junior, 193 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:20,440 Speaker 5: and the second voice you heard, obviously was was Terrence 194 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 5: Bud Crawford. Neither one of them are big on really 195 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:28,680 Speaker 5: getting that deep into the film, and Bud kind of 196 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 5: gave the same type of reasoning you gave TJ in 197 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 5: terms of that I'm not going to get the same 198 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:35,960 Speaker 5: thing from that opponent. Nobody's going to fight me the 199 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:38,959 Speaker 5: way that they fight another opponent, which I found. 200 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 6: It to be very interesting. They leaned very heavily. 201 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 5: Both of them talked about leaning very heavily on what 202 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 5: their trainers are teaching them and preparing them to do 203 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:51,840 Speaker 5: I guess I would assume, you know, jumping over a 204 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 5: line or making a tackle, or reading a pass or 205 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 5: reading coverage. And it's very different than taking a chance 206 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:01,599 Speaker 5: or anticipating or assuming that's something that you saw on 207 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 5: film in a boxing match. I mean that could cost 208 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 5: you getting knocked the hell out, which I would assume 209 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 5: in football you get knocked the hell out too. If 210 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:12,200 Speaker 5: if what you you know, like I said, I did 211 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:15,680 Speaker 5: get caught. Somebody caught my tendency. So we were playing 212 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 5: against Iowa. The guy lowered his head, he lowered his eyes, 213 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:23,680 Speaker 5: he lowered his head, and I went to leap frogging, 214 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 5: and he popped up like he squatted on me. He 215 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:31,680 Speaker 5: didn't he didn't do the traditional I'm a chop block you. 216 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 5: He put his head down like he was going to 217 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:36,959 Speaker 5: hit my knee like they always did when I leapfrogged him, 218 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 5: but he squatted instead of lunging. And when I got 219 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 5: when I when I went and left my feet, he 220 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:51,720 Speaker 5: exploded through and I saw sky fans ground, sky fans ground, 221 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:54,560 Speaker 5: and just covered up. I covered up my head just 222 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 5: I didn't want to, you know, have any type of 223 00:11:57,160 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 5: tragic injury take place. But I just found it to 224 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 5: be very interesting and very I was very curious to 225 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 5: see what their response would be. 226 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:07,199 Speaker 6: What would y'alls take away from from their responses? 227 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:11,080 Speaker 7: Boxing is a different different game in football, and it's 228 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:14,200 Speaker 7: one hundred percent. If you're a big puncher, guy's gonna 229 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:17,319 Speaker 7: fight you different And so you can watch film, they're 230 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 7: gonna approach you differently. If you're extremely quick, they're gonna 231 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 7: approach you differently. Even even in football. You guys gave 232 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 7: an answer of the complexity or the offensive and defensive system. 233 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 7: I just went off of a one on one battle 234 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 7: with a dB and so like Whizard Cincinnati, I give 235 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 7: you an example, like when we they didn't even really let 236 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 7: us meet individually with our position coach, and so we 237 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 7: would watch film with the offensive line and quarterbacks and 238 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 7: the receivers. The running backs was the only position group 239 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:53,840 Speaker 7: that got to leave and go meet what they what 240 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 7: they coaches individually. 241 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 8: We had to sit in individual means as wide receiver, No. 242 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:01,840 Speaker 7: We did, but when we like when we did blitz, 243 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 7: we sat in there. And so like the guys like 244 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 7: I had to pay attention to that because I was 245 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 7: in the slot, so I was the one breaking hot. 246 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:14,320 Speaker 7: And so for me, when you play the Steelers and 247 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:17,560 Speaker 7: you get Palamalu on the line, we used to call 248 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 7: a foster two blitz. You know he's gonna come inside 249 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:22,840 Speaker 7: of you. Don't let him cross face backside. James Harrison 250 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 7: is gonna drop to the flats, to the corner. It's 251 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:26,840 Speaker 7: gonna drop to the half. The other safety is gonna 252 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 7: drop to the other half. Like once you saw Polamalu 253 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:33,560 Speaker 7: at the line of scrimmage and James Harrison was standing 254 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:35,679 Speaker 7: up and he started to back up. We kind of 255 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 7: knew what was coming. Things of that nature. The defensive system, yes, 256 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:41,839 Speaker 7: but when you're talking about a corn just your one 257 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:46,080 Speaker 7: on one battle, everybody's going to play you differently. A 258 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 7: guy gonna not gonna play me in plaques the same 259 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 7: way you get aggressive with plackscoa at the line of scrimmage. 260 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 7: If you want to, he gonna throw your ass to 261 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 7: the side and it's gonna be a touch. You not 262 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 7: gonna do that to him, but you may do it 263 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:59,560 Speaker 7: to me or somebody else. And so you see those 264 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 7: things and they're not gonna play you the same way 265 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 7: that they play somebody else. 266 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:07,840 Speaker 5: But the fact that they make adjustments. What about comps? 267 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 5: What if it is a guy that's built like a 268 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:10,599 Speaker 5: game like you? 269 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:13,559 Speaker 7: And that's those are the games, and that's the film 270 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 7: that you try to focus on to see what was working. 271 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 7: Like when I did a lot of film study, like 272 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 7: an off season, I would just get I would tell 273 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 7: the video guy Travis Brammer with Cincinnati, Hey, I need 274 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 7: make me a DVD. 275 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 6: You know they couldn't send ITVD. Ten might VH twelve. 276 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 7: He would send me ten to twelve receivers all they targets, 277 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 7: and I will watch them entire offseason to see what 278 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 7: I could implement from their game and put it into mind. 279 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 7: I'm taking stuff from their game and I'm gonna put 280 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 7: it in my game. And so I studied the guys 281 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 7: that my peers to see what I can take from 282 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 7: their game to implement in mind. But yeah, the boxing 283 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 7: game is completely different because it's that fear factor of 284 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 7: if I move wrong, if I do the wrong thing, 285 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 7: it slights. 286 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 8: Out, word read and react. LaVar is listening to your story, man. 287 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 8: That was one of the main reasons why I never 288 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 8: I don't think I ever leaked of anybody, because I'm saying, listen, 289 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 8: my legs too damn long to get out of the way, 290 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 8: and I'm gonna end up like you with a mouthful 291 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 8: of dirt. So I don't think I ever leaked over 292 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 8: anybody for that reason, I couldn't get my legs. 293 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 6: Out of the I don't even really jump. 294 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 8: I jumped behindes when I was competing for a football 295 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 8: in the air, not trying to jump over somebody. But yeah, man, 296 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 8: listening to those guys, man, I think if you want 297 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 8: to be great at any craft that you are in 298 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 8: or what that you're working on, you have to be 299 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 8: a student of it, just like those guys were referring 300 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 8: to and talking about. And to understand, you know, boxing 301 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 8: is a lot different football because it's basically a reaction 302 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 8: sport based off of what you're looking at right in 303 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 8: front of you. With that being said, you know, it's 304 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 8: one hundred percent correct. Everybody's gonna fight an opponent different, 305 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 8: but uh, you gotta love what you do, and they 306 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 8: are students of the game, just like they were saying. 307 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 8: And I think this thing is gonna be a tremendous 308 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 8: fighting and hopefully LeVar can get us some tickets and 309 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 8: we can get down there. 310 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 6: Yeah, hopefully Reck can help us get some tickets. Butler, 311 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 6: let's say if we could get that pretty left hook. 312 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 6: All right, So yeah, we're gonna switch over. 313 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 5: We're gonna transition into football, back into the National Football League, 314 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 5: and well, the topic of conversation, Derek Carr, what it is, Well, we'll. 315 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 6: Let you know that. 316 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 5: On the other side is break you're listening to Up 317 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 5: on Game, not Stretch Armstrong and Pa team Man. I'm 318 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 5: just the guy that hangs out and drives the car 319 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 5: when they need to get to where they're going to go. 320 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 5: Save somebody. That's LeVar Arrington man up on Game. We'll 321 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 5: be right back Fox Sports Radio. Hey, this is Tom 322 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 5: Berducci from Fox Sports, MLB Networking Sports Illustrated. 323 00:16:56,360 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 6: And I'm Joe Madden. 324 00:16:57,440 --> 00:16:59,280 Speaker 5: We're gonna be around to talk a little bit about 325 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 5: managerial visions and what may have retarded to the dugout 326 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 5: maybe in the nineteen eighties. 327 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 6: It's the Book of Joe Podcast. 328 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:06,920 Speaker 9: I can't wait for this, Joe. We're gonna dive into 329 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 9: what goes on in the dugout and behind the scenes 330 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 9: in Major League. 331 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 6: Baseball, cars, wind whatever else. We want to talk about. 332 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 9: Yeah, well, there are no boundaries, right. Listen to the 333 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 9: Book of Joe podcast on the iHeartRadio app, on Apple Podcasts, 334 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:20,440 Speaker 9: or wherever you get your podcasts. 335 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 336 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:27,399 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio 337 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:31,639 Speaker 1: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to 338 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:32,440 Speaker 1: listen live. 339 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:39,480 Speaker 5: Why okay, yeah. 340 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 6: Come on bizarre give them that. 341 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:47,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, uh, welcome back into the show. It's up 342 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:50,680 Speaker 5: on Game if you know, gotta get you some bard, 343 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:55,919 Speaker 5: you know, whow here we go. We're rejoining you in 344 00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 5: the up on Game Live studio. 345 00:17:59,080 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 6: That's right. 346 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:02,440 Speaker 5: It's kind of not the up on Game Live studio, 347 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 5: but it's like it's up on Game and we're live 348 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:06,720 Speaker 5: and it's Tyrack dot com studio. 349 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:08,640 Speaker 6: Is what I really wanted to say to you. That's right. 350 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 6: It's t J. 351 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:11,879 Speaker 5: Hitchman's I's Plexico Burs, I'm LeVar Errings and I just 352 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 5: get hyped up sometimes. 353 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 8: Man. 354 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 5: That was Shady, that was Slim, That was that was 355 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:18,119 Speaker 5: d What is that d dB four, D twelve? Is 356 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 5: it D twelve? 357 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 6: Yeah? You know what I mean. 358 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 5: Anyway, speaking of performances and getting excited about those those performances. Guys. Well, 359 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:33,879 Speaker 5: some people weren't excited about Derek Carr's performances last year, 360 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:38,200 Speaker 5: and I guess mainly he was one of his biggest 361 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:41,440 Speaker 5: uh critics. And here's what he had to say recently 362 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:43,400 Speaker 5: about what took place last year. 363 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 10: I just they just didn't get my best, you know, 364 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:48,879 Speaker 10: and and that that drove me crazy at the end 365 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 10: of the year because I was I felt so spread 366 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 10: out in so many different ways. That's hard for you 367 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 10: to understand, because what's happening in my mind and in 368 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 10: my life, you know, but I felt so spread out, 369 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:00,239 Speaker 10: and I was trying to do this, trying to do that, 370 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 10: trying to get the guys excited about a certain thing 371 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:05,879 Speaker 10: or a certain way, even though they could see on 372 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 10: my face it was tough and things like that, you know, 373 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:10,400 Speaker 10: in certain ways, and you know, I just didn't feel 374 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:13,359 Speaker 10: like myself and I feel bad to the coaches and 375 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 10: the players today. They didn't get my best. 376 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 6: Okay. 377 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:21,720 Speaker 5: So I think I think Derek Carr is a fine 378 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 5: young man. I think he he possesses strong moral values. 379 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:33,719 Speaker 5: He clearly exercises courage in terms of just being candid 380 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:36,919 Speaker 5: and transparent about how he feels about certain things. 381 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:40,159 Speaker 6: But I don't know that this was warranted Fellas, I 382 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 6: don't I don't know. 383 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:43,920 Speaker 5: That if as good a dude as he is, and 384 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:47,719 Speaker 5: as you know, he's got that Christian faith and strong 385 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 5: beliefs and that that system of just being that way 386 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:55,879 Speaker 5: and giving testimonies and stuff like, I don't know that 387 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 5: he needed to do that because I'm looking at a 388 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:02,920 Speaker 5: dumpster fire of a team in the Las Vegas Raiders 389 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 5: and listen, it's not I don't think it for anyone 390 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 5: say he didn't get they didn't get his best. Yeah, 391 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:12,159 Speaker 5: I guess for me, I'm sitting there and I'm feeling 392 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:16,359 Speaker 5: in my mind, I'm feeling in my mind for him 393 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:19,920 Speaker 5: to respond and his his his press conference to say 394 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:25,160 Speaker 5: those things. I mean, why why even offer that at 395 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 5: this point, like that's in the past, you know, Are 396 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 5: you trying to justify why you weren't good at the 397 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:32,120 Speaker 5: end of the year? 398 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:34,320 Speaker 6: Are you? Are you like, is there a justife? Is there? 399 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 5: Is there another reason why you would take that road 400 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:41,359 Speaker 5: and apologize again and say they didn't get my best 401 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 5: and start trying to explain it that way. 402 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 6: And you're in a. 403 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:47,440 Speaker 5: Different uniform, Because to me, I think that you don't 404 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 5: have to justify what took place in Las Vegas, because 405 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 5: I think we already know how dysfunctional the Raiders are 406 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:57,200 Speaker 5: right now. I mean, you guys, get me your take 407 00:20:57,280 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 5: on it, but I just kind of felt like, what 408 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 5: what was the reasoning behind even offering this. 409 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:07,119 Speaker 6: Number one. I believe he felt like he would be 410 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:08,719 Speaker 6: a Raider his entire career. 411 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:14,159 Speaker 7: I think that's what he wanted, and so he's probably 412 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:17,480 Speaker 7: still has an affinity for the Raiders and wanting to 413 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 7: be there. Obviously, Devonte Adams leaves his situation in Green 414 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:27,640 Speaker 7: Bay and becomes a Las Vegas Raider because of Carr, 415 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 7: and now that situation they not even playing together now, 416 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 7: so he feels like, Devonte Adams goes out of his 417 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:39,160 Speaker 7: way Lee's Green Bay and Aaron Rodgers to come play 418 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:39,399 Speaker 7: with me. 419 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 6: I'm not there. We didn't have a good year. I 420 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 6: didn't have a good year when I got hurt. 421 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 7: Jared Siddam comes in and throws for almost four hundred 422 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:51,399 Speaker 7: yards and it's the number one defense in the league, 423 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:53,920 Speaker 7: in the San Francisco forty nine ers. So I believe 424 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 7: it's just a little bit of disappointment in how things went. 425 00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 7: Considering Devonte Adams did what he did to come up 426 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 7: play with him. 427 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 6: But I believe he still wants to be a Raider. 428 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:07,639 Speaker 7: He always wanted to finish career, his career with the 429 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 7: Raiders just a little bit of disappointment. 430 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:13,440 Speaker 8: I mean, I'll say this, I don't believe that Derek 431 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 8: Carr is an elite quarterback. 432 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:18,639 Speaker 6: You know, just over the past. 433 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 8: You know his career and you know the season some 434 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:23,920 Speaker 8: of the seasons that he has had has been good, 435 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:26,640 Speaker 8: but not good enough to make him a top ten 436 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 8: quarterback to call him elite. 437 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 6: And I just can't can't. 438 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:33,639 Speaker 8: I just can't understand for me to me why the 439 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 8: Las Vegas Raiders will go out all this way to 440 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 8: acquire DeVante Adams and you get rid of Derek Carr 441 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 8: the following season because he basically gave up everything saying 442 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 8: that you know, he wanted to compete to win a championship. 443 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:53,639 Speaker 8: And now though now that championship for Davante Adams and 444 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:56,720 Speaker 8: the Raiders are even looking even more bleak, you know, 445 00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 8: moving forward. But if you look at Derek carr season 446 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:02,119 Speaker 8: last year, he think he apps like two hundred and 447 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:04,399 Speaker 8: thirty yards pass he only completed sixty percent of his 448 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:07,159 Speaker 8: passes in the first four games that they lost, they 449 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 8: lost by four points, four points, three points, and two. 450 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:12,680 Speaker 8: So you can't really just hang it all on him 451 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 8: offensively and say that, you know, he wasn't able to 452 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:18,960 Speaker 8: get the job done, because Davante Adams still had an 453 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:21,680 Speaker 8: all Pro season at fifteen hundred yards and I be 454 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:26,240 Speaker 8: least twelve touchdowns, so he wasn't too bad. But I 455 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 8: think the Raiders moving forward, they needed to make a 456 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:33,399 Speaker 8: change because there just wasn't something going right between Derek 457 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 8: Carr and Josh McDaniels and they decided to move on. 458 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 8: But for him moving forward to the New Orleans Saints, 459 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 8: you look at the quarterbacks that were on the roster 460 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:46,359 Speaker 8: pride to him arriving. I believe that Derek Carr would 461 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 8: be the better option, you know, for the Saints going 462 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:51,639 Speaker 8: into this, going into the twenty twenty three season. But 463 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 8: I don't expect for him to just go down to 464 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:55,959 Speaker 8: New Orleans and just light it up, and you know, 465 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 8: they start off six seven and er and you know 466 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:00,919 Speaker 8: Leavar is going to be talking about the Saints are 467 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:03,720 Speaker 8: going to win the division again when they finished dead last. 468 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:05,119 Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't think I'm gonna do that. 469 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 8: Then, but I think they will be better offensively Michael Thomas, 470 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 8: getting him healthy. 471 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 6: See, if you can keep them around a little bit longer. 472 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 6: We need to get they need to get. 473 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 8: Alvin Kamara back to his All Pro status, getting him 474 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 8: the football, you know, letting him create and make plays. 475 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:26,880 Speaker 5: But I think he's the best option. Yeah, I'm not busy. Yeah, 476 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 5: based off of what happened at the Pro Bowl. 477 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:32,920 Speaker 8: Yeah, okay, so well well that just went to offense. 478 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:37,720 Speaker 8: So they'll they'll just try to, you know, put a 479 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 8: product on the field that they can go out and 480 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:42,680 Speaker 8: compete in that division. But I still believe that they'll 481 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 8: finish last in the division. 482 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:44,640 Speaker 6: M hmm. 483 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:48,400 Speaker 5: All right, well all right, so quick, just real quick 484 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 5: before we get to Nick on the update, who you 485 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 5: think has a better season New Orleans or the Raiders, 486 00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:58,600 Speaker 5: Saints or Raiders ahead. 487 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:01,640 Speaker 8: I'm going to say, right, I'm going to say Raiders 488 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 8: because of you know, just because of the defense, you know, 489 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:08,160 Speaker 8: Max Crosby, Chanla Jones, you know, some of those guys 490 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:12,199 Speaker 8: and offensive, but they still have the DeVante Adams. No, no, 491 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,919 Speaker 8: Darren Waller, he's with the Giants. You still have a 492 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:19,960 Speaker 8: Hunter Winfro Josh Jacobs. So I believe offensive they have 493 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:23,240 Speaker 8: a better offense than the New Orleans Saints do. But 494 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 8: you know, I think they have a better I think 495 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 8: the Raiders have a better season. 496 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 6: I'll say it will be the Saints and it won't 497 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 6: be close. 498 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:36,120 Speaker 7: And the reason for that is you have the LA Chargers, 499 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:39,840 Speaker 7: Kansas City Chiefs, and the Denver Broncos, who will be 500 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:41,960 Speaker 7: much better with Sean Pagton as their head coach in 501 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:45,160 Speaker 7: your division. And then you look at the Saints division 502 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:47,919 Speaker 7: with the Tampa Bay Bucks. Who's the quarterback? Oh, we 503 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:51,640 Speaker 7: don't know, Baker Kyle Trast. You look at the Falcons 504 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:54,159 Speaker 7: and Desimon Ritter, and you look at the Carolina pass Oh, 505 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 7: they have a rookie. And so I'm gonna say it 506 00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:58,480 Speaker 7: will be the Saints and it won't even be close. 507 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:03,639 Speaker 5: Oh wow, All right, Well, well you have been wrong before. 508 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:06,240 Speaker 6: No, I'm right pretty much. 509 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 8: Oh man, you came on here, Lakers would beat the 510 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:11,879 Speaker 8: Denver Nugget. 511 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 6: You were wrong. I mean I was picking with my wife. Probably, 512 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:16,920 Speaker 6: but it's okay. Probably. 513 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:20,800 Speaker 7: Hey, Hey, I'm wrong. I'm like a bro clock. I'm 514 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:23,160 Speaker 7: only wrong twice. It's always right twice a day. Broke 515 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 7: clock is right twice a day. 516 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:25,640 Speaker 6: Twice a day. There you go. 517 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 5: Well, I'll tell you who isn't wrong. He gives us 518 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:30,640 Speaker 5: our headlines. Is my man, Nick Cope? What you got 519 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:31,159 Speaker 5: for trending? 520 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 6: My guy? 521 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 9: All right? Thank you, LeVar. The West Virginia basketball coach 522 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:38,280 Speaker 9: Bob Huggins was arrested on a DOI charge last night 523 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:41,920 Speaker 9: in Pittsburgh. He was released with a preliminary hearing said 524 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:44,520 Speaker 9: for a later date. The university said in a statement 525 00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:47,239 Speaker 9: they're aware of the incident or in the process of 526 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:50,960 Speaker 9: gathering more information, and we'll take appropriate action once the 527 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:54,720 Speaker 9: review is complete. This comes after Huggins received a three 528 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:58,280 Speaker 9: game suspension and a million dollar pay cut last month 529 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:01,400 Speaker 9: for using an anti gay slur during a radio interview. 530 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:04,480 Speaker 9: West Virginia also modified his contract to be on a 531 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 9: year to year basis. Third round of the US Open 532 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:10,879 Speaker 9: underway at LA Country Club. Ricky Fowler is your leader 533 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 9: at ten under par. Wyndham Clark one shot back in 534 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:17,160 Speaker 9: second place. Roy McRoy and Xander Schoffley tied for third 535 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:20,240 Speaker 9: there two shots back of Fowler. Notable names that missed 536 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 9: the cut Max olm Of, Phil Mickelson and Jordan Speith. 537 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 9: The leaders will not be teeing off today until the 538 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:29,960 Speaker 9: six pm Eastern hour. In college football, four star quarterback 539 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:33,399 Speaker 9: Austin Simmons flipped his commitment from Florida to Ole Miss 540 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:36,920 Speaker 9: and in the NFL, Patriots corner Jack Jones was arrested 541 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:40,639 Speaker 9: yesterday after two firearms were found in his travel luggage 542 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 9: at Boston's Logan Airport. Let's go back to up on game. 543 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:44,120 Speaker 1: Back to you. 544 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:45,639 Speaker 6: Guys, appreciate you, cope. 545 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 5: Now let me throw this one out at you fellas, 546 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 5: since you all receivers, y'all good at catching things. Sakwon Barkley, 547 00:27:54,680 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 5: Josh Jacobs, Dalvin Cook, Ezekiel Elliott. If I were to 548 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:08,199 Speaker 5: tell you those four names are in limbo as to 549 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 5: what their career holds for them in the future, would 550 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:16,920 Speaker 5: you find that to be believable? And then the next 551 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:20,240 Speaker 5: thing I would ask, and I will give you a 552 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 5: SoundBite to bring this thing home. 553 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:25,159 Speaker 6: For the ones that you would find. 554 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:31,880 Speaker 5: Valuable, like say a Christian McCaffrey or an Alvin Kamara, 555 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 5: they even are feeling the pressure in the strain of 556 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:39,280 Speaker 5: the position. So before you answer this question, listen to 557 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:41,920 Speaker 5: what Christian McCaffrey had to say about what he feels 558 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 5: about the current state of how running backs are being 559 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 5: respected in the pay column. 560 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:50,080 Speaker 2: When I look at what you know receivers make and 561 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 2: far receivers make around the league, and then you look 562 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 2: at what running backs make, you know, we're at the 563 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:59,240 Speaker 2: bottom of the list. And you know, you got backs 564 00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 2: who at two thousand yard seasons. You've had backs who've 565 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 2: had seven hundred and fifty to eight hundred yards receiving, 566 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 2: And you know, a lot of people use the injury 567 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,680 Speaker 2: the injury argument, but and I don't know if that's 568 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 2: necessarily valid when you look at some of the receivers 569 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 2: who have been heart who still get big contracts, and 570 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 2: so I understand we touch the ball the most, but 571 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 2: in my opinion, I think we create a lot of 572 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 2: value in doing so as well. So there's a lot 573 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 2: of arguments multiple ways, but I definitely think somewhere along 574 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:35,480 Speaker 2: the line the franchise tag and what the market did 575 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:38,840 Speaker 2: to the running back position, I think they're definitely undervalued. 576 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 2: And I think if you ask the running backs around 577 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:43,560 Speaker 2: the league, they would probably say the same thing. 578 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 5: Now that's from the Rich Eisens Show. What's your guys 579 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 5: take on this? I mean, is it fair to say 580 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 5: that the running back position is being diminished to a 581 00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 5: very very large capacity. And what does it mean for 582 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:07,200 Speaker 5: the future of the position? You know what it is. One, 583 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:10,520 Speaker 5: it sucks for them. If you're a running back, it 584 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:12,880 Speaker 5: does suck for them. But this is what has happened. 585 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 7: You've seen running backs that are undrafted get a thousand yards. 586 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:21,640 Speaker 7: You've seen running backs that are late round draft picks 587 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:25,040 Speaker 7: come in and play and play extremely well and so 588 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:29,240 Speaker 7: and it's not just here and there. It's often like 589 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:32,440 Speaker 7: Alvin Kamara was drafted and I believe in the third round, 590 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:34,760 Speaker 7: maybe the fourth round. 591 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:35,920 Speaker 6: Out of Tennessee. 592 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:41,560 Speaker 7: You can get guys at the running back position later on. 593 00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 7: And now with the analytics involved in footballs oh, when 594 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 7: a guy has x amount of carries on his body, 595 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:56,160 Speaker 7: he starts to go downhill after so many carries. Everybody's 596 00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 7: not a physical freak like Derrick Henry. And so when 597 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:03,680 Speaker 7: you're at the peak of their careers, say you a 598 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 7: first round draft pick. This is where they've been wrong 599 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:09,800 Speaker 7: the running backs. If your first round draft pick day, 600 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,000 Speaker 7: in essence, have you for six years because you get draft, 601 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:14,000 Speaker 7: you have four year contract. They pick up the fifth 602 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 7: year option. They franchise you. After that, they gonna throw 603 00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:20,640 Speaker 7: you to the wayside. Then they've given you two hundred 604 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:24,440 Speaker 7: and fifty carries probably each year. Now they just gonna 605 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:26,720 Speaker 7: get another guy to replace you. Whereas when you look 606 00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 7: at the receiver position, it's very rare that you can 607 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:33,560 Speaker 7: just say, oh, we're gonna draft this guy and he 608 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:35,240 Speaker 7: gonna come in and get it done. If you got 609 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:38,160 Speaker 7: a good offensive line, nine times out of ten, that 610 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:39,440 Speaker 7: running back gonna make it happen. 611 00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:43,240 Speaker 6: And no disrespect the best of the best. They can't 612 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:43,760 Speaker 6: be replaced. 613 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:47,160 Speaker 7: The Christian McCaffrey's and Kamars, the Nick Chubbs and the 614 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:52,120 Speaker 7: Derrick Henrys and those guys, they can't be replaced. But 615 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:56,640 Speaker 7: the second tier guys, it's been shown that they can 616 00:31:56,680 --> 00:32:00,240 Speaker 7: be replaced, and that's why they're in this position. It 617 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:03,240 Speaker 7: sucks for them because they should be making more money 618 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:07,480 Speaker 7: early in their career when they're getting this big load 619 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:12,240 Speaker 7: of offensive they're carrying offense, and I've always they get 620 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 7: the ball twenty five thirty times a. 621 00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 8: Game and they make the least. That boggles my mind. 622 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:22,520 Speaker 8: You know, listening to Kristy McCaffrey, you know, speak on this. 623 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:26,520 Speaker 8: You know, saying that the running back position is undervalued. 624 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:32,360 Speaker 8: It's not undervalued in the aspect of performance, it's undervalue 625 00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:38,480 Speaker 8: and pay. So there's a misconception of what he's saying 626 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:42,000 Speaker 8: is that the trust me, we love our running backs 627 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,640 Speaker 8: because we're not running the football, then I can't get 628 00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:47,280 Speaker 8: the balls. So those things kind of go hand to hand. 629 00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:52,400 Speaker 8: But Christan McCaffrey and Sakuon Barkley, they have showed us 630 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:55,239 Speaker 8: over the past few years how hard it is to 631 00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:58,560 Speaker 8: stay healthy at the position. And when you have a 632 00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:01,560 Speaker 8: guy like a Christian McCaffrey, ay Coon Barkley, you draft 633 00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:03,440 Speaker 8: him with the second pick in the draft or I 634 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:05,960 Speaker 8: think he was a second PIF and I think Dalvin 635 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:09,880 Speaker 8: Cook was Caffrey. Of of those three, of the six 636 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:12,680 Speaker 8: that you name, those are the only three that are 637 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:17,440 Speaker 8: first round picks. And other than Dalvin Cook, he's been 638 00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 8: you know, he's been healthy over his first five or 639 00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:25,040 Speaker 8: six years. However along he's been in the league, I 640 00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:28,360 Speaker 8: think he's still a dynamic running back. But it's just 641 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:30,680 Speaker 8: a hard position for those guys to stay healthy. At 642 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:34,600 Speaker 8: the days of you know, Jerome playing fourteen years and 643 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:37,880 Speaker 8: the Frank Gors those days are gone. Fifteen sixteen year 644 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,360 Speaker 8: running backs that the league is it's not going to allow, 645 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:42,960 Speaker 8: you know, guys to stay around that long. And if 646 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 8: you can stay healthy that long, then you'll probably be 647 00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:50,120 Speaker 8: sitting home on the couch. But you know, it's not undervalue. 648 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:54,240 Speaker 8: We're just seeing, like we had this conversation a few 649 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:57,240 Speaker 8: weeks ago the ISA, but checkos who six round pick 650 00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:01,600 Speaker 8: and you know, Miles Sanders. Those guys come in and 651 00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:06,000 Speaker 8: get inserted into an offense and now this team fits 652 00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:09,720 Speaker 8: this guy's style, so he looks better than what another 653 00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:12,600 Speaker 8: guy was because all of the doing or doing the 654 00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:15,719 Speaker 8: scouting and there, and that player is allowed to play 655 00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:20,160 Speaker 8: their stripths to whatever that offense may be doing. But uh, 656 00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:22,680 Speaker 8: you just gotta stay healthy and it's hard to do. 657 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,600 Speaker 8: It is hard to do stay healthy at the running 658 00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:27,880 Speaker 8: back position, especially with all the pounder and everything that 659 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:30,480 Speaker 8: they're going to be taken. And now people are already 660 00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:34,000 Speaker 8: talking about Derrick Henry, you know, too many carries or 661 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:35,560 Speaker 8: he's going downhill and. 662 00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:36,759 Speaker 6: You don't even get it. 663 00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:39,279 Speaker 8: They're not even giving these guys a chance to go 664 00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:42,760 Speaker 8: out and to prove themselves going forward because they already 665 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:45,160 Speaker 8: have this misconception. They're gonna put a narrative out there 666 00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:48,640 Speaker 8: and stay with it, and and and it's unfortunate. And 667 00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:50,799 Speaker 8: now they got to go out there and prove themselves 668 00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:54,240 Speaker 8: again and again and again, you know, just to get paid. 669 00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:59,360 Speaker 8: But I think it's unfair that he compared the wide receivers, 670 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:03,759 Speaker 8: you know, gets money, and why receivers are not. It's 671 00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:06,320 Speaker 8: all about business, Wood, It's business. 672 00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:10,400 Speaker 7: You know, the third receiver on a lot of teams 673 00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:14,680 Speaker 7: is making more than the top paid running back, which 674 00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:17,640 Speaker 7: I'm assuming is McCaffrey and Kamar they're the highest paid 675 00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:20,760 Speaker 7: running backs and Derek Henry in the league third receiver 676 00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:24,319 Speaker 7: on many teams making more than what they making. 677 00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:25,160 Speaker 6: That's crazy. 678 00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:27,800 Speaker 8: Oh, to get back to what you said in the 679 00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:30,399 Speaker 8: beginning with I didn't even answer the questions. All these 680 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:34,040 Speaker 8: guys positions in limbo. They're not in limbo. It's the 681 00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:39,319 Speaker 8: business side of it that is devaluating these guys, you know, 682 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:42,800 Speaker 8: paying how much they should be getting paid. Everybody knows 683 00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:44,880 Speaker 8: when Sa Kwan balk is a healthy man, he's one 684 00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:48,520 Speaker 8: of the best players in the world. And saying with 685 00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:52,719 Speaker 8: Christian McCaffey and those guys Alvin Kamara, Dalvin when those 686 00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:56,960 Speaker 8: guys are healthy, man, They're the most dynamic players at 687 00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:58,040 Speaker 8: the position in the league. 688 00:35:58,400 --> 00:35:59,720 Speaker 6: It's not their fault. 689 00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:02,399 Speaker 8: What's been happening over the past few years with these 690 00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:05,160 Speaker 8: teams getting these backs later in the draft and a 691 00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:09,359 Speaker 8: shining it happened, and now the team say, know what, well, 692 00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:11,400 Speaker 8: I'm not gonna pay this guy fifteen million dollars a 693 00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:13,840 Speaker 8: year when I can pay a guyun six hundred and 694 00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:14,560 Speaker 8: fifty thousand. 695 00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:16,480 Speaker 5: And you gotta hold on to it to pay these 696 00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:20,279 Speaker 5: quarterbacks too. That's Plexico burst, that's t J. Huschman Zaida. 697 00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,640 Speaker 5: We're gonna take a quick break. On the other side. 698 00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:24,920 Speaker 5: We're gonna wrap this thing up, put a bow on it, 699 00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:26,759 Speaker 5: tied up and send it out to you as a 700 00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:27,960 Speaker 5: president and as a gift. 701 00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:30,560 Speaker 6: We'll talk obj to wrap it up. This is Fox 702 00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:33,120 Speaker 6: Sports Radio up on game. We'll be right back. 703 00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:36,120 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 704 00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:39,480 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio 705 00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:43,719 Speaker 1: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to 706 00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:44,520 Speaker 1: listen live. 707 00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:47,359 Speaker 11: That's of your throws. Swing grab born in the right 708 00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:51,440 Speaker 11: field of base hit coming into score, MACHOs, Crufford racing 709 00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:54,600 Speaker 11: around second, digging for third, he's in there as Bets 710 00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:57,760 Speaker 11: comes up with the ball and throws into second. Austin 711 00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:00,560 Speaker 11: Slater did not get into this game until the eighth 712 00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:02,920 Speaker 11: inning as a pinch hitter, and he has had a 713 00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:06,680 Speaker 11: huge effect in the game. He's had three hits in three. 714 00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:10,000 Speaker 5: Advance Welcome back in up on game Live from the 715 00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:14,840 Speaker 5: Tirack dot Com studios. 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Bundle and save at Progressive dot Com. 725 00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:46,640 Speaker 6: All right, So. 726 00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:48,680 Speaker 5: Before we get out of here, I wanted us to 727 00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:52,440 Speaker 5: touch on something other than the you know, the running 728 00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:57,760 Speaker 5: backs or quarterbacks, which we've already discussed. Here's a receiver's tale. 729 00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:02,600 Speaker 5: OBJ has some some things to say. He talked about 730 00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:05,160 Speaker 5: his injury in the Super Bowl, talked about you know 731 00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:08,400 Speaker 5: where he's at just wondering very quickly, is this a 732 00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:12,360 Speaker 5: do or dies? It's a must have success season for OBJ. 733 00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:14,040 Speaker 5: But here's what he had to say before I get 734 00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:14,600 Speaker 5: y'all's take. 735 00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:20,120 Speaker 6: It sucks. There's no ay around it. 736 00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:22,919 Speaker 12: It's literally you know you've dreamed of you know, I've 737 00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:27,400 Speaker 12: watched plenty of Super Bowls and finally it was, you know, 738 00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:28,319 Speaker 12: my opportunity. 739 00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:29,319 Speaker 6: And I was so locked in. 740 00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:32,200 Speaker 12: I remember my mom and my people were like, I've 741 00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:34,200 Speaker 12: never seen you, you know, like that before a game, 742 00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:35,920 Speaker 12: and I just I could just feel it that day 743 00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:37,960 Speaker 12: when I woke up, I knew that I was probably 744 00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:39,080 Speaker 12: gonna be the best person. 745 00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:40,720 Speaker 6: On the field. I had been feeling it all week. 746 00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:41,880 Speaker 6: And it just sucks. 747 00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:43,520 Speaker 12: You know, I didn't get to live out that moment. 748 00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:46,160 Speaker 12: It's not for the Instagram posts or nothing like that, 749 00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:48,919 Speaker 12: Like this is really something I've dedicated my entire life 750 00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:51,640 Speaker 12: to this game and this sport and just wanted to 751 00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:54,000 Speaker 12: have that moment. But you know, God had already came 752 00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:55,919 Speaker 12: to me and he said, if I win the next 753 00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:59,560 Speaker 12: time showfully this year, you get an opportunity. He said, 754 00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:01,560 Speaker 12: I know this shit was better, but we'll make sure 755 00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:03,239 Speaker 12: that it's probably the best juice you ever taste, And 756 00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:05,600 Speaker 12: that's probably in my mind. That's just how I keep 757 00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:08,239 Speaker 12: the perspective is that hopefully I'll get another opportunity to 758 00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:10,480 Speaker 12: do that. And you know, life happens to you, so 759 00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:13,040 Speaker 12: you just got to keep rolling with the flow of 760 00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:14,839 Speaker 12: it and we live and we learn. 761 00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:17,600 Speaker 5: All Right, we got two minutes left. But is this 762 00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:21,080 Speaker 5: a make or break season for OBJ if he wants to. 763 00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:24,600 Speaker 7: Be considered one of the top players and make the 764 00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:27,439 Speaker 7: type of money that he wants to make. Absolutely, he 765 00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:32,440 Speaker 7: didn't play last year, and he's had so many injuries 766 00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:36,879 Speaker 7: in previous years. If he doesn't play well or if 767 00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:41,279 Speaker 7: he gets hurt, yeah, this will be a rap. I 768 00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:43,520 Speaker 7: mean it's already a rap as him being one of 769 00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:46,760 Speaker 7: the top receivers in the league. These young guys is coming. 770 00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:49,480 Speaker 7: He won't get back to that. But as far as 771 00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:54,000 Speaker 7: being paid and his name just being brought up along 772 00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:56,279 Speaker 7: with the best receivers, that's that will no longer be 773 00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:56,840 Speaker 7: the case. 774 00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:57,640 Speaker 6: Super quick pleas. 775 00:39:57,920 --> 00:39:59,360 Speaker 8: I just think for him moving forward, men, it's all 776 00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:01,560 Speaker 8: about his health. When he's healthy, he's one of the 777 00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:04,319 Speaker 8: best players in the world. Maybe not to you know, 778 00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:07,280 Speaker 8: the point, can he stay healthy? Can he stay healthy? 779 00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:10,880 Speaker 8: And you then to remain consistent throughout sixteen weeks. And 780 00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:13,080 Speaker 8: if he does that, I think he'll play well enough 781 00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:16,560 Speaker 8: to convince another team to give him another contract. 782 00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:19,440 Speaker 5: All Right, make sure you check us out up on 783 00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:22,640 Speaker 5: game all right, check out the podcast subscribe. 784 00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:23,040 Speaker 6: That's t J. 785 00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:27,320 Speaker 5: Huchman, Zada's Plex, Cooe Burs, I'm LeVar Arrington. Jkas is 786 00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:29,360 Speaker 5: coming up next. Make sure you stay locked in for 787 00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:32,799 Speaker 5: the Jonas Knox Show. This is Fox Sports Radio. Hope 788 00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:35,320 Speaker 5: you appreciate the show. All right, we'll talk to you. 789 00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:38,160 Speaker 5: We'll see you next week with holler Halla Halla, Hala, 790 00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:38,799 Speaker 5: Hala la la