1 00:00:01,320 --> 00:00:19,280 Speaker 1: The volume. What is going on everybody? Hopefully you are 2 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 1: doing well. Everyone is having a good day, because today 3 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 1: we're gonna talk a little football. Sean McVeigh was edgy 4 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 1: on Monday. The Browns have done what we knew was 5 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:33,199 Speaker 1: gonna happen all along. But let's face it, that's never 6 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 1: gonna be the biggest story when it comes to that 7 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 1: franchise backup quarterbacks. You know, every once in a while 8 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:42,520 Speaker 1: we see a backup become a big time starter over 9 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:45,600 Speaker 1: the course of history. Matt Schobbs and I mean Steve 10 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:48,280 Speaker 1: Young is the best example, but Jimmy Garoppolo and I 11 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 1: think we got a couple guys to keep our eyes on. 12 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 1: And a story I read today on the Athletic I'm 13 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 1: a reader on Andrew Luck That really got got me 14 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 1: thinking about where we're headed with college football, and I 15 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 1: think he's just the start of many which we see 16 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 1: all over the sport. 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I ran 45 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 1: into him this morning getting coffee, walk right into that 46 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 1: meeting with a bunch of people on the staff, and 47 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 1: you just start slinging ideas. And obviously the first time 48 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 1: when I did this whatever a couple months ago, I 49 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 1: didn't say that much. And it wasn't football season. I 50 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:37,920 Speaker 1: felt a little I don't want to say in Bolden, 51 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:39,679 Speaker 1: but if I had to take I'd throw it out. 52 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 1: And we were talking about McVeigh and how he relates 53 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 1: to just football and you know, the status of Stafford 54 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:51,079 Speaker 1: because at the time when we did it on Monday morning, 55 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:55,360 Speaker 1: we didn't know Matt Stafford was going to practice. And 56 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 1: on Sunday the Rams who had told everybody that Matt 57 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:03,639 Speaker 1: Stafford was gonna throw like he did last week during 58 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:06,079 Speaker 1: the game, not you know, before the game, do a 59 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 1: warm up, whether it was in front of the media 60 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:10,239 Speaker 1: or not. But and then see how he felt the 61 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 1: next day. And they just refused to talk about it. 62 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 1: And today McVeigh kind of lost it. Like now, Stafford 63 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:18,360 Speaker 1: practiced and the Rams throughout a clip of a short practice, 64 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 1: I've been making a throw and McVeigh was getting really 65 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:23,799 Speaker 1: edgy and he's tired of talking about it. And one 66 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 1: thing I threw out in the meeting, you know, I'm 67 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:28,240 Speaker 1: just like a with one of the writers of the producers, 68 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 1: just throwing out my takes is like, you know what 69 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 1: he is, He's an in shape, smiley, good haired Belichick. 70 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 1: Because we talk a lot about the Shanahan crew, right Kyle, Now, 71 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 1: Kevin O'Connell is involved in that because of McVeigh, Lafleur, 72 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 1: Mike McDaniel, Solo was that guy, like all those guys 73 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 1: that you know work together. And one thing with Kyle Shanahan, 74 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 1: who is a grumpy guy like Shanahan, isn't mister like 75 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 1: sending the media information, isn't smiling a lot during the season. 76 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 1: Has the the before and after of when he started coaching, 77 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 1: to the way he looks now, especially when they put 78 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 1: it next to McVeigh. McVeigh at thirty and McVeagh at 79 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 1: forty looks exactly the same. Kyle when he took over 80 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 1: the job, I think was like thirty seven, thirty eight, 81 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 1: and now he's in his mid forties. I mean he 82 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:18,919 Speaker 1: looks he looks weathered. I mean, you see it but 83 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 1: he's very loyal to players, like he is not exactly 84 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 1: cutthroat when it comes to getting rid of guys. I 85 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:27,039 Speaker 1: mean most of his guys beside DeForest Buckner, which he 86 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:30,160 Speaker 1: didn't draft. He's extended and last year I thought he 87 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:32,159 Speaker 1: should have been cutthroat with Ayuk and he wasn't until 88 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 1: the last minute when he was open to it, and 89 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 1: it kind of bit him in the ass and they 90 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 1: regretted that contract immediately. But countless guys they have been very, 91 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 1: very loyal to and McVeigh is very Belichickian. If they've 92 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 1: gotten rid of everybody, you know, beside Aaron Donald who 93 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 1: retired on his own, who might have just saw the 94 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 1: writing on the wall. If I ever slipped, they will 95 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 1: kick me to the curb. But from Jalen Ramsey to 96 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 1: Jared Goff, to Marcus Peters to you name it, he will. 97 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:59,040 Speaker 1: If he thinks you're slipping, Cooper Cup, he will get 98 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:02,279 Speaker 1: rid of you. And you saw today like responding to 99 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 1: the Stafford thing, like I'm sorry, Sean, this is kind 100 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 1: of a story that you guys created, Like you are 101 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 1: the one that came out and talked about and this 102 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 1: is what I think he could take from Belichick, and 103 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 1: it's hard like what Belichick did take skill. Most human 104 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 1: beings are just eventually can't put up the guard rails 105 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 1: and say something at a press conference for twenty five 106 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:27,840 Speaker 1: years unless you ask Belichick about special teams or what like. 107 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 1: The winless Dolphins in early November did well on in 108 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 1: the kicking game. He didn't give you anything, ever, because 109 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:39,599 Speaker 1: it always would come back to bite you in the ass. 110 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 1: And McVeigh has learned like he got very open and 111 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 1: leaked a bunch of stuff about Jared Goff and he 112 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 1: has openly talked about regretting it. And listen, I appreciate 113 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 1: the candor to these young coaches. They will be most 114 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 1: of them, Kevin O'Connell, Kyle Lafour, Like they're pretty good 115 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:59,279 Speaker 1: at the podium. Doesn't mean they're gonna give you everything, 116 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:03,279 Speaker 1: but they're not Belichecki in. But sometimes, especially when it 117 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:06,359 Speaker 1: comes to injuries with a superstar player, like we're just 118 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 1: gonna talk about Matt Stafford more than we're gonna talk 119 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 1: about Puka Nakua, right or Jared Verse like that, that 120 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:16,160 Speaker 1: guy is just gonna get headlines no matter what I mean. 121 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 1: He's a national story. So when his back is injured, 122 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 1: and you say he's gonna practice a couple of weeks ago, 123 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 1: then he can't, and then he's supposed to practice again, 124 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 1: and then your mom on it, and then another guy 125 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 1: has taken over the job, you know, in terms of McVeigh, 126 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 1: like a lot of coaches let someone else coach during 127 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:32,920 Speaker 1: the preseason, and then even let do the press conference. 128 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:35,039 Speaker 1: He goes, well, we gotta ask Sean about it. It's 129 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 1: become a story and sometimes, like when you fight it, 130 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 1: it gets worse. And now, let's face it. The only 131 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:47,479 Speaker 1: question was Stafford, like anyone with this type injury, is 132 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:49,159 Speaker 1: how does he feel over the next couple of days? 133 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 1: Can he practice back to back days? Can he practice 134 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:55,720 Speaker 1: for a week? Can he play in like, obviously he's 135 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:58,279 Speaker 1: tough enough if they had a game tomorrow he could play, 136 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:01,279 Speaker 1: But like week one, is he played, is it worth 137 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 1: risking it if he's not quite ready because a back 138 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 1: injury is something that clearly could derail his season, could 139 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 1: derail his career, which didn't have that much longer anyway. 140 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 1: So I think McVeigh it'll be interesting because listen, I 141 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 1: get where he's coming from, and I get where all 142 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 1: these coaches I've seen it firsthand. They don't sleep much 143 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 1: even during training camp before the regular season. You're working 144 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 1: long days, You're grinding hard. You're spending a ton of 145 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 1: time trying to figure out your roster. Who's gonna make 146 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 1: the team, who's not gonna make the team, who can 147 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 1: get on practice squad. Your front office is funneling you 148 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 1: a ton of players, like, hey, if we cut this guy, 149 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 1: is this guy for the Packers that they're probably gonna 150 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 1: cut better? Is this guy for the Houston Texans that 151 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 1: probably not gonna make their team? Is he better than 152 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 1: what we have? So you're just grinding. This is a 153 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 1: long long you know, in terms of hours in the day, 154 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 1: in energy and sometimes listen, I have bad days. You 155 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 1: have bad days. We all do. Sometimes I don't feel 156 00:07:57,640 --> 00:08:00,040 Speaker 1: like I talk for a living, and most days I 157 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 1: don't want to talk to other people. Right, I got 158 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 1: very lucky. You know. You would think like I'm super 159 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 1: extroverted because I talk all the time. I'm actually a 160 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 1: pretty introverted individual. I can be a homebody and not 161 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 1: talk to anybody besides doing this, which is kind of 162 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 1: ironic because while I talk for a living, I actually 163 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 1: don't talk directly to that many people, though, I talk 164 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 1: every single day for multiple hours, like that's how I'd 165 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 1: pay my bills. So I totally get having bad days 166 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 1: being edgy. But you have to wonder if McVeigh will 167 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:37,479 Speaker 1: be pretty careful the way he approaches these injury situations, 168 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:39,560 Speaker 1: because if you're gonna be BELICHICKI and one thing he 169 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 1: was great at he never gave you shit. So then 170 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 1: when you tried to come well, you said this, he 171 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 1: never played that game. The Browns today they named Joe 172 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 1: Flacco their starting quarterback, which the Man on the Moon 173 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:55,079 Speaker 1: could have told you they were gonna do six months ago. 174 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 1: Joe Flacco was always going to start Week one for 175 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns. That's not the story. The only story 176 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 1: is now is what's going to be their quarterback depth 177 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 1: chart when the season starts, And honestly, you can kind 178 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:09,559 Speaker 1: of fudge it. But I've been saying this all along, 179 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:12,079 Speaker 1: and I watched a lot of Dylan Gabriel's game when 180 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 1: he started the second preseason game when Shador was hurt 181 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 1: against the Eagles. He looked good, he looked fine, He 182 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:19,719 Speaker 1: looked like a normal guy you drafted in the mid 183 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 1: rounds in a preseason game and never forget the Browns 184 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 1: Brass their head coach and their GM chose him multiple 185 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:31,679 Speaker 1: rounds ahead of Shador. They had the opportunity. It's not 186 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 1: one of those where it's like the Ravens drafted a guy. 187 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:38,199 Speaker 1: I think actually they have three draft picks that year. 188 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 1: They took Lamar, They definitely took Hayden Hurst, but they 189 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:43,199 Speaker 1: could have taken Lamar in the teens, and they took 190 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 1: another player. Now granted they didn't take another quarterback, so 191 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 1: it's like you could never be like, well, you liked 192 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 1: another quarterback more. It's like, no, this is the only 193 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 1: quarterback we drafted. The Browns had the opportunity to take 194 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 1: either quarterback in the third round, and they chose Dylan Gabriel, 195 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:57,439 Speaker 1: which I didn't even agree with. I though that was 196 00:09:57,520 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 1: kind of a crazy draft pick. I thought Dylan Gabriel 197 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:02,200 Speaker 1: is like a fifth, six, seventh round pick, like essentially 198 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:05,680 Speaker 1: where Shador went. But you know, Colin was talking about 199 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 1: this today and I agree, he's the Shador has taken 200 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:13,320 Speaker 1: on a life of its own right because of the name, 201 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:18,080 Speaker 1: because of like the cultural following that he has, and 202 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 1: I think Shador was a good prospect. Now, there were 203 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:23,320 Speaker 1: things leading up to the draft that ultimately, if you're 204 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 1: a good player, none of that will matter moving forward. 205 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:29,679 Speaker 1: But when Dylan Gabriel gave that interview during the press 206 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:32,560 Speaker 1: conference and then it became this huge story, like it 207 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 1: was obvious he was talking about the media. He was 208 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 1: not talking about his team or his teammates. But everyone 209 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:44,080 Speaker 1: was so quick to defend them, and sometimes in those situations, 210 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 1: they make the situation worse. And this thing like this 211 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 1: is why when they took Dylan Gabriel, I will die 212 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 1: on this hill. They did not want to draft Shador Sanders. 213 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 1: If they did, they would have taken them. The owner 214 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:00,960 Speaker 1: forced this on them. They're not dummies. They realize what 215 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 1: came or would come with this. Now. I would imagine 216 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:07,439 Speaker 1: it's even crazier than they thought. But this is not 217 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:10,599 Speaker 1: gonna slow down. And let's face it, Shador Sanders and 218 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 1: Dylan Gabriel are going to play games this year in 219 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 1: the regular season for the Cleveland Browns. Joe Flacco's not 220 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 1: gonna start every game. The chances that Joe Flacco, like 221 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:22,080 Speaker 1: if I had to take the over under of when 222 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:24,720 Speaker 1: he gets hurt. He's an older player on not a 223 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 1: very good team who is going to be down a lot, 224 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 1: meaning he's gonna have to throw a lot. So it's like, 225 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 1: does he make it to Halloween. And I'm not talking 226 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:35,559 Speaker 1: about getting benched, which obviously could easily happen. I'm talking 227 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:38,960 Speaker 1: about getting injured. He can't move in a league where 228 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:43,559 Speaker 1: offensive linemen don't just come growing trees anymore. Yet, defensive 229 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 1: linemen have been getting drafted in this league at a 230 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:48,840 Speaker 1: rapid rate in terms of the ability to pass rush. 231 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 1: So Dylan Gabriel is gonna start a game in the 232 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:56,960 Speaker 1: regular season, assuming they're both healthy before Shadoor Sanders, and 233 00:11:57,000 --> 00:12:01,320 Speaker 1: everyone's gonna freak out. Yet this organization chose this guy 234 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 1: ahead of him for that reason. Now how that goes, Like, 235 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 1: if he's bad and they stick with him, it could 236 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:11,200 Speaker 1: just you can see the circus coming right this thing 237 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:14,080 Speaker 1: and both more than likely. You could put Dylan Gabriel, 238 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 1: he could put your door. They all could be overwhelmed, right. 239 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 1: It could be a situation where Hasselback was on the 240 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:22,840 Speaker 1: show today and even he said, like, I used to 241 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 1: dominate in the preseason, and then I finally became a 242 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 1: starter in Seattle and I was terrible. It's a completely 243 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:33,320 Speaker 1: different game. There are no game plans in preseason for backups, 244 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 1: especially maybe sometimes you script, like I'm sure Ben Johnson 245 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 1: and Caleb Winns scripted those plays, and that's not like 246 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 1: a shot like a Mahomes and Andy if he starts 247 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 1: this third preseason game, will script a series or two 248 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 1: like that's normal. But once your backups come into the game, 249 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 1: you're just calling plays. Same thing with the defense, like 250 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:56,559 Speaker 1: these aren't scripted game plan place. You're just running your defense. 251 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 1: Can you run it and can you execute it? And 252 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 1: so it's a completely different game. But I think this 253 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:06,720 Speaker 1: circus is going to grow dramatically because of the situation 254 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:09,320 Speaker 1: of like the coach in the GM wanted a different 255 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:12,080 Speaker 1: guy than the one their owner wanted, yet the one 256 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 1: the owner wanted is way more famous and honestly might 257 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:17,599 Speaker 1: be better. It's just this thing's gonna we're gonna be 258 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 1: talking way too much about a bad Browns team thinking 259 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 1: about backup quarterbacks like this used to happen a lot 260 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 1: more doesn't happen as much anymore, as like Matt Job 261 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 1: would be the backup for Michael Vick, and people be like, 262 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 1: I think Matt Job is like a legitimate starter, and 263 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:36,680 Speaker 1: then he would get traded to the Houston Texans and 264 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 1: go on to have a long career. It's like, I 265 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:40,959 Speaker 1: think this guy, Jimmy Garoppolo could start for a lot 266 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:42,720 Speaker 1: of teams in the league. Then all of a sudden 267 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 1: he gets traded for a second round pick and becomes 268 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 1: a longtime starter. It's it's happened, you know many years. 269 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 1: Sometimes that guy just becomes the starter, like a Jalen 270 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:55,440 Speaker 1: Hurts because of poor play, right, brock Purty because of 271 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:58,679 Speaker 1: poor play. But Steve Young is the best example of 272 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 1: a guy who was a backup. It's like I can start, 273 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 1: I can start, and then finally gets his opportunity. I 274 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 1: do think there are a couple guys in the NFL 275 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:09,680 Speaker 1: that are just worth monitoring that maybe not this year, 276 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 1: because it does benefit the team to keep a good 277 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 1: starting quarterback or I mean a backup quarterback that you 278 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 1: think can win games for you. There is value at 279 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 1: any moment. Anyone can go down. We have learned that 280 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 1: way too many times. Tom Brady towards ACL in Week one, right, 281 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 1: I mean we have seen quarterbacks get KOed out of games. 282 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 1: We have seen guys get injured. It happens. I would 283 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 1: not be in the business. If I like my backup 284 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 1: and thought he was a starting quarterback, but I had 285 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 1: like a legit starter getting rid of that backup to 286 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 1: the last possible moment a lot like Belichick did with Jimmy. 287 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 1: He waited till the last possible second and then traded 288 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 1: him going into his contract. Here, Kleb really kind of 289 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 1: quieted everything, right. They had had a very very bizarre 290 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 1: training camp in terms of is this thing gonna work? Now? 291 00:14:57,200 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 1: It's training camp, you're you know, button heead in terms 292 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 1: of forcing a scheme, coaching a guy hard, especially when 293 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 1: you're a new coach, doing it my way or the highway. 294 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 1: I'm not quite adapting to you yet, right, I want 295 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 1: you to do what I do. That's the reason I 296 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:14,680 Speaker 1: got hired. But there was a lot of uzz coming 297 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 1: out about Tyson badget right, and Dave Wanstead was on 298 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 1: the Herd today and said that, like I was at 299 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 1: practice and Ryan Poles and these guys they love him. 300 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 1: If you remember Hard Knocks last year, Matt Ryan, who 301 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 1: played with Ryan Poles, was at practice. I was like, 302 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 1: I really like this guy. Ben Johnson talks this guy up, 303 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 1: really likes this guy. Now he's not gonna you know 304 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 1: it would take an injury for him to start, but 305 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 1: like you look at him. I watched some of his highlights. 306 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:42,680 Speaker 1: I went to eat dinner after Caleb came out of 307 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 1: the game, after I recorded some of the podcasts. But 308 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 1: then I looked at his numbers. I was like, got, 309 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 1: this guy played pretty well. And then I just watched 310 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 1: the highlights, Like, he looks pretty good. And so far 311 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 1: in the preseason he's twenty six to forty one for 312 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 1: two touchdowns. And the other guy is Tanner McKee with 313 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 1: the Eagles, who didn't play this last game because I 314 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 1: think they're trying to figure out like who's gonna win 315 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 1: the third string job. But when he started the first 316 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 1: preseason game, like he did look really good. And I 317 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 1: think both these guys, you know, are probably more your 318 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 1: prototypical pocket quarterbacks, but are just individuals to keep an 319 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 1: eye on. And sometimes, like when I was with the 320 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 1: Eagles after Kevin Cobb, who was supposed to be the 321 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 1: replacement for Donovan McNabb and then got a concussion Week one, 322 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 1: and Michael Vick came in and never looked back. That 323 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 1: following year, Kevin Cobb was traded for a second round pick. 324 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 1: Kevin Cobb wasn't very good, Like you can blame the injuries, No, 325 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 1: he just wasn't that good, kind of a weak arm, like, 326 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 1: but other teams value like this guy could be good 327 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 1: and there's no guarantee, like we see guys get moved 328 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 1: at that position. I just think that Tyson Badget and 329 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 1: Tanner McKee are just two individuals. Like I don't think 330 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 1: the Eagles are gonna get rid of Tanner McKee because 331 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 1: if Jalen Hurts were to like have an injury and 332 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 1: was gonna miss a month, the Eagles would be like, 333 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 1: we go three and one with Tanner McKee. I think 334 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 1: Ben Johnson the Bears would be like, hey, if Caleb 335 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 1: got injured, we could win games with Tyson Badget. But 336 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 1: there gets to a point like you're not gonna give 337 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 1: the guy a big salary as a backup. 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Four additional terms and responsible gaming resources 370 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:56,160 Speaker 2: see DKNG, dot co, slash audio. 371 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 1: You know, one thing that happened in college football was 372 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 1: the rise of the GM. It didn't exist when I 373 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 1: worked in college football in two thousand and eight, two 374 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 1: thousand and nine, two thousand and seven. The GM position 375 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:20,400 Speaker 1: honestly didn't start to like ten or eleven with ed Mannowitz, 376 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 1: who I worked with in Philly, who did it for 377 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 1: Nick Saban, and even then it was called the director 378 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:28,960 Speaker 1: of player personnel. The title GM in college football is 379 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:31,720 Speaker 1: relatively new, i would say, within the last five or 380 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 1: six years, and really really prominent in this ANIL era 381 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 1: because you need those guys to like negotiate your contracts, 382 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 1: to run point on what you're doing in terms of 383 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 1: your roster financial allocation. And one thing that is going 384 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:51,720 Speaker 1: to become more and more prominent. And Josh Payton I 385 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 1: talked about this a week ago, is these gms aren't 386 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:58,679 Speaker 1: gonna just answer to the head coach. Because when you 387 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:01,159 Speaker 1: were the director of player person for Nick Saban, you 388 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 1: answered to Nick Saban. When you were doing that job 389 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 1: for Dabo Sweeney or Ryan Day like they were the boss, 390 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 1: they were the GM. You were doing it. Be like 391 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 1: being the director of player personnel and the Patriots for 392 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:17,639 Speaker 1: Bill Belichick, like Caserio became the GM when he went 393 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:20,680 Speaker 1: to Houston. When he worked in New England, he ran 394 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:23,719 Speaker 1: the personnel department, but ultimately Bill had the final decision 395 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 1: making on everything. Well, those days are done, right A 396 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 1: lot of these gms now, Jim Naggy, who is the 397 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:36,880 Speaker 1: GM of Oklahoma, Andrew Lucke, Ron Rivera, Collen Stanford, they 398 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 1: don't answer to the head coach. The head coach technically 399 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:42,399 Speaker 1: answers to them, but they answer to the president that 400 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:46,199 Speaker 1: they are essentially the boss of the program. And I 401 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 1: was reading The Athletic were a really really good article 402 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 1: on Andrew Lucke. I mean it was funny, it was 403 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 1: like he was just meeting with the president one day. 404 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:57,440 Speaker 1: Clearly it had been four or five years since he 405 00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:00,439 Speaker 1: had retired, and he was just he really missed it, 406 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:02,720 Speaker 1: and he's meeting with the president and the President just 407 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:04,879 Speaker 1: kind of asked him, and I give the president credit 408 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 1: on this one, like do you want to run the 409 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 1: football team? Not be the coach, but like do you 410 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 1: want to run point on football? It's like, what's the job? 411 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:15,400 Speaker 1: I don't really have one. We'll just create one around you, 412 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 1: which is essentially what all these jobs have become in 413 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:23,399 Speaker 1: college football. There's not like a you know, in terms 414 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:25,960 Speaker 1: of the job requirement. It's kind of learning on the fly. 415 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 1: And Andrew Luck like, based on Stanford's compliance, had to turn 416 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:35,719 Speaker 1: in a resume. He's like, I've never created a resume 417 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:39,760 Speaker 1: in my life. So he wrote like professional football player reason, 418 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 1: you know, whatever year he got drafted twenty twelve till retired. 419 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:50,200 Speaker 1: His references were like Chris Ballard and Jacoby Brissett. It 420 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:55,920 Speaker 1: was just classic. But that position and that guy whoever, 421 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 1: if Frank keeps the job, whether you know Frank is 422 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 1: just truly an inner, and they go out on a 423 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 1: coaching search. The GM in college football, like in the NFL. 424 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 1: They are going to run the football searches. I thought, 425 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 1: for a long period of time one area in which 426 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:17,480 Speaker 1: Jimmy Sexton and rightfully so, could take really big advantage 427 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 1: of in college football. As he was dealing with these presidents. 428 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 1: And I'm sure obviously they have these huge endowments, but 429 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 1: most of these professors on campus aren't making ninety ten 430 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 1: million dollars a year, aren't having fifty million dollar buyouts. 431 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:35,200 Speaker 1: If anything, they're trying to get funding for their research projects. Obviously, 432 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 1: some there are individuals on campus in academia that makes 433 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 1: some decent money, but nothing like the football coach. Honestly, 434 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:45,400 Speaker 1: it's not even close. Now. You could argue if ninety 435 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:48,159 Speaker 1: thousand people paid to watch the biology teacher, he'd be 436 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:50,479 Speaker 1: making big money too, And they don't, and he doesn't. 437 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:55,720 Speaker 1: But Jimmy Sexton would. He would. He couldn't just do 438 00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:59,639 Speaker 1: a deal with Howie Roseman or John Lynch or Jerry 439 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:01,920 Speaker 1: Jones and guys like that and not have way more 440 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:04,639 Speaker 1: pushback and have a little give and take where he 441 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:07,439 Speaker 1: could bend over these colleges. And he was doing it 442 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:09,320 Speaker 1: for a long period of time. I mean, no better 443 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 1: example was Jimbo Fisher a couple of years ago. I 444 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 1: do think the more and more you can get people 445 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:18,200 Speaker 1: like Andrew Luck and listen, I'm not even just saying 446 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:22,119 Speaker 1: former football players. Obviously, Ron Rivera a formal football coach. 447 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:24,639 Speaker 1: I think we are not that far away. I was 448 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:28,199 Speaker 1: texting Josh Pate about this. I would imagine in the 449 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:31,199 Speaker 1: next couple of years, you see a guy who is 450 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 1: like a number two or a number three in an 451 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 1: NFL team. So I'm like the number three for Howie 452 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:38,639 Speaker 1: Roseman or I'm the number three for Jason light So 453 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:40,720 Speaker 1: I'm not like the number two where I'm gonna become 454 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:44,159 Speaker 1: a GM next. I'm like running college. I'm like the 455 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:47,920 Speaker 1: director of college scouting. I'm going to leave the NFL 456 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:51,120 Speaker 1: where let's say I make five six hundred thousand dollars, 457 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 1: so I have a really good living. I work in 458 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:56,159 Speaker 1: the NFL. I'm doing really well, and I'm on a 459 00:23:56,200 --> 00:24:01,440 Speaker 1: trajectory that's pretty good to go run Florida's personnel department 460 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 1: for double the amount of money, and I am now 461 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 1: the boss and the head coach answers to me. I 462 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:11,920 Speaker 1: think there's a decent chance within this hiring cycle this fall, 463 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 1: but definitely the next one. We see multiple guys leave 464 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:20,359 Speaker 1: the NFL to go run the college personnel department because 465 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:22,400 Speaker 1: they will then be the decision maker a little bit 466 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 1: like Brian Rolapp, the new PGA Tour commissioner. Why did 467 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:30,359 Speaker 1: he take the PGA jub He was the number two 468 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:33,960 Speaker 1: for Roger Goodell. I'll tell you why. Obviously, I'm sure 469 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,439 Speaker 1: he got a raise, but two to like really hone 470 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:39,879 Speaker 1: in his management skills. So when Roger retires at seventy 471 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 1: years old, who do they call? Well, this guy knows 472 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:43,959 Speaker 1: how to run it. And I've already worked in the NFL, 473 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 1: so you could go instead of waiting my turn, I 474 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 1: could go run the Florida Personnel department. If I'm a 475 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:53,200 Speaker 1: forty year old director of college scouting, and then maybe 476 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 1: it's gonna take me six seven more years to become 477 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 1: a GM. I might be interviewing for NFL teams in 478 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 1: two or three years because they know I know how 479 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:03,200 Speaker 1: to run a coaching search. They know I know how 480 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:07,919 Speaker 1: to It's obviously a smaller you know, pie in terms 481 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:12,240 Speaker 1: of the financial requirements and a lot mins that you 482 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:15,639 Speaker 1: make to players, but it's still somewhat the same logic. 483 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,439 Speaker 1: If anything is a little bit more crazy because there 484 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 1: aren't quote unquote a cap right now. And I showed 485 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 1: that I know how to do that because I know 486 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:27,320 Speaker 1: this if I was an owner. Obviously, we get good 487 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 1: candidates every once in a while, right like Spy Tech 488 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 1: really good candidate, Adam Peter's really good candidate. Sometimes we 489 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 1: have times where it's like, who are these GM candidates? 490 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 1: And then I get this guy that's like, Hey, I'm 491 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 1: forty five years old. I've went on a coaching search before, 492 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:44,639 Speaker 1: and I've also run a twenty five to thirty million 493 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 1: dollars salary cap for my team at the University of 494 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:49,879 Speaker 1: Florida or the University of Texas or the University of 495 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:54,640 Speaker 1: Southern California. Like, I'm actually more equipped than this lifetime 496 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:58,760 Speaker 1: scout guy. And I think we're very very close to 497 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:01,120 Speaker 1: seeing a lot of these guys eyes in the NFL 498 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 1: become very very interested in this and listen, making five 499 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars in America like your top couple percenter. 500 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 1: But if you are the number two and you live 501 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:13,960 Speaker 1: in la or you live in Philadelphia or you live 502 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:16,920 Speaker 1: in Boston to work for the Patriots, like it's you're 503 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 1: paying a lot in taxes like you're not a ten 504 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,920 Speaker 1: ninety nine guy like your W two employee. Well, it's like, wait, 505 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,240 Speaker 1: I get to go to one of these college towns 506 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 1: which is way cheaper, double the amount of money, so 507 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:30,199 Speaker 1: make way more for my family and put myself in 508 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 1: a better situation. There are a lot of boxes getting 509 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 1: checked here that are gonna make these jobs really, really 510 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 1: desirable in the very very near future for NFL people. 511 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:44,520 Speaker 1: The volume