WEBVTT - “I HAD TWO ABORTIONS”

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, Hi.

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<v Speaker 2>What's your name, Arianna? What's going on, Ariana? How's life?

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<v Speaker 1>You know it's lifing?

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<v Speaker 2>I feel that brother. Well, what do you want to

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<v Speaker 2>talk about today?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Well, this happened like two and a half years ago,

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<v Speaker 1>but basically, in the span of like one year, I

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<v Speaker 1>got two abortions, I got kicked out of my house,

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<v Speaker 1>and I got emancipated.

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<v Speaker 2>This this was when you were eighteen.

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<v Speaker 1>I was seventeen. Actually I had just hearned I had

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<v Speaker 1>just turned steen when it all started.

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<v Speaker 2>How you well, I guess, uh. I mean, before we

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<v Speaker 2>get into anything, how you doing now? Are you chilling?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? I'm actually great now. I'm in college. I've been

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<v Speaker 1>living on my own since then. I'm still with my

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<v Speaker 1>boyfriend who had all happened with.

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<v Speaker 2>So I mean, if you want to get into it,

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<v Speaker 2>what happened?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So, okay, let me just preface this with some backstory.

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<v Speaker 1>My dad is like not really in my life, and

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<v Speaker 1>like my mom is like a really bad opioid addict

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<v Speaker 1>and alcoholic, and so all of this happened like a

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<v Speaker 1>year after COVID happened. So it was like February twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty one, and so me and My boyfriend had been

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<v Speaker 1>together for it had almost been a year, and on

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<v Speaker 1>his seventeenth birthday, I found out I was pregnant, and

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<v Speaker 1>so I like internally knew what I was going to do,

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<v Speaker 1>like I always knew if that ever happened to me,

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<v Speaker 1>like what my decision was, and like luckily Rogie Wade

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't overturned or anything, so I knew, like I had options,

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<v Speaker 1>and my boys then like fully supported me. He was like,

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<v Speaker 1>if you want to have it, I'm down to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>If you don't, I'm down to do that. So he

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<v Speaker 1>was like very very supportive.

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<v Speaker 2>So you were sixteen and he was so So you

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<v Speaker 2>were sixteen and he was seventeen.

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<v Speaker 1>I had just turned sixteen. I had just turned seventeen

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<v Speaker 1>the week before, so like technically I was sixteen when

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<v Speaker 1>if I got pregnant whenever that happened in like January December,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I just turned seventeen when I found out.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, And so your boyfriend was supportive and everyone and

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<v Speaker 2>everything was all aligned.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like me and him were good. I hadn't told

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<v Speaker 1>my mom yet and it was and it's actually the

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<v Speaker 1>craziest story how she found out I was on the

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<v Speaker 1>phone with one of my friends, and she was at

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<v Speaker 1>the place where we worked at and she had me

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<v Speaker 1>on speakerphone, and someone else we worked with overheard it

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<v Speaker 1>and they knew a friend of my family, so like

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<v Speaker 1>it got around. Word kind of got around back to

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<v Speaker 1>my mom and she ended up confronting me about it.

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<v Speaker 2>What did that confrontation look like?

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<v Speaker 1>Honestly, it wasn't that bad. It was you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>heard this, Is it true? I was like yeah. She

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<v Speaker 1>was like, well, like, do you know how far along

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<v Speaker 1>you are? I was like maybe eight weeks or something

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<v Speaker 1>like that, and she was like, well, do you know

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<v Speaker 1>what you want to do? I was like, yeah, like

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to, like I don't want to have it,

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<v Speaker 1>like I want to get the procedure done. And she

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<v Speaker 1>was like okay, well, you know I fully support you

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<v Speaker 1>this and that. And then I'd like already done some

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<v Speaker 1>research on it, and she was like, you know, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>drive you to Texas or Mississippi it's necessary. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll do whatever we have to do. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god, thank you. Like my mom hadn't, like

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<v Speaker 1>it's never really been like very supportive in my life,

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<v Speaker 1>because she's always been kind of absent or like kind

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<v Speaker 1>of selfish with her decisions with drugs. So I was

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<v Speaker 1>like cool, like yes, absolutely, like thank you, Like I'll

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<v Speaker 1>start like calls on Monday, because it's like on a weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>And then a week later she basically cornered me in

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<v Speaker 1>my room whenever she was musing and she was drunk

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<v Speaker 1>and it was like two am, and she was like,

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<v Speaker 1>you're having this baby, no matter what you think. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>the adult. I like, I have to sign in order

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<v Speaker 1>because in my state, at least at the time, you

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<v Speaker 1>had to have one parent sign off on it, like

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<v Speaker 1>you couldn't sign off if you were a minor. And

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<v Speaker 1>since my dad's not really in my life, she knew

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<v Speaker 1>that wasn't an option. So she was like, you're having

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<v Speaker 1>it because I'm saying it, and I still to this

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<v Speaker 1>day do not know what caused that change. So she.

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<v Speaker 2>So she went from she found out. She was totally supportive.

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<v Speaker 2>She was like, I'll drive you to another state if

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<v Speaker 2>I have to, And then she just comes into your

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<v Speaker 2>room drunk at two am and switches up on you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's it was a very common occurrence for her

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<v Speaker 1>to like barge in my room at two am just

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<v Speaker 1>for like random things or not. But it was like,

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<v Speaker 1>it was absolutely crazy to me because like we hadn't

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<v Speaker 1>talked about it since then, Like I was just like

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<v Speaker 1>trying to figure out what would be the best route

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<v Speaker 1>to go about it, so she didn't have to do

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<v Speaker 1>any of the planning. And then all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 1>it was just you're having this baby. It's what I say,

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<v Speaker 1>goes and that was it.

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<v Speaker 2>That's fucking wild.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And so in my in my state, at least

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<v Speaker 1>at the time, there was something called, oh I forgot

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<v Speaker 1>the name, but it was something it was a like

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<v Speaker 1>a bypass law, and it was if you went to

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<v Speaker 1>court and a judge determined that you were mature enough

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<v Speaker 1>to have like an abortion, they'll grant you from mission

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<v Speaker 1>from the court to get an abortion if you're a minor.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait, so you go in front of a court and

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<v Speaker 2>the court judges if you're mature enough to have an abortion?

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<v Speaker 1>Crazy? What? What?

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<v Speaker 2>What's the first of all? That's insane? Because what like

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<v Speaker 2>that's insane because what are they gonna do? Be like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what, you're not mature enough to have an abortion?

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<v Speaker 2>But I guess how can you be How can you

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<v Speaker 2>not be mature enough to have an abortion but then

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<v Speaker 2>be mature enough to have a baby.

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<v Speaker 1>That was that was my debacle. And I had to

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<v Speaker 1>like get in contact with the it was like a

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<v Speaker 1>pro bono agency or like online website. Well I'll just

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<v Speaker 1>say my state. I'm from Louisiana and so online they

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<v Speaker 1>have these like volunteer lawyers who will like represent you

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<v Speaker 1>for free, talk you through the procedure, like how the

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<v Speaker 1>court stuff is going to go. And at the time,

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<v Speaker 1>it was online court because not only because of COVID,

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<v Speaker 1>but because I lived like in the middle of my

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<v Speaker 1>state and there's only like three clinics in my state,

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<v Speaker 1>so the closest one was like two and a half

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<v Speaker 1>hours away, so they just did it via zoom court.

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<v Speaker 2>So did you have So is that what ended up happening?

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<v Speaker 2>You went in front of a judge and like had

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<v Speaker 2>to get like evaluated as to whether or not you

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<v Speaker 2>could get an abortion.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Well I was really sick. I had like something

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<v Speaker 1>called hypermesas or hyper a these something like that Hypergrideralia.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like a really long name. But I have like

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<v Speaker 1>perpetual like morning sickness like all the time. Like I

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<v Speaker 1>was like losing weight, so I had to drop out

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<v Speaker 1>of school and basically like live in the hospital. So

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<v Speaker 1>it was really hard to go around my mom to

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<v Speaker 1>like meet with the lawyers like on call and like

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<v Speaker 1>on zoom and anything with her not being there, dude.

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<v Speaker 1>So so it took me like a couple of weeks

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<v Speaker 1>to get it done.

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<v Speaker 2>So okay, I actually I have more questions about this

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<v Speaker 2>whole process, but before we do that, just like so

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<v Speaker 2>your mom she was supportive and then she was she

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<v Speaker 2>was like drunken on drugs and corn at you. But

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<v Speaker 2>then like I I guess did she was she going

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<v Speaker 2>back and forth between like drunk and fuck you and

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<v Speaker 2>sober and supportive or was like what what was her

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<v Speaker 2>deal during this time with you? Was she flip flopping?

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<v Speaker 2>Did she kind of change and stay with her position?

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<v Speaker 2>Like what was what was her deal?

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<v Speaker 1>After that initial first flip flop, she like stayed her

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<v Speaker 1>position like using or sober. She was like, you're having

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<v Speaker 1>it no matter what, no matter this, no matter that,

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<v Speaker 1>And it like it. The whenever we would argue about it,

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<v Speaker 1>because I would try and plead my case, it like

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<v Speaker 1>the conversations always got a lot more aggressive whenever she

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<v Speaker 1>was using, and it was always at night. But her

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<v Speaker 1>like her whole logic or standpoint was she's my mom,

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<v Speaker 1>so I can't consent, so she's going to consent for me,

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<v Speaker 1>and she wants me to have this baby, so that

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<v Speaker 1>that's what's going to happen.

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<v Speaker 2>So how did you get around her? So you you

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<v Speaker 2>found this lawyer that was helping you out that. So

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<v Speaker 2>tell me, I mean, what the what did the kind

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<v Speaker 2>of procedure look like? Not the not the medical procedure,

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<v Speaker 2>but like the legal proceedings.

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<v Speaker 1>So basically my lawyer like filled out all the legal

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<v Speaker 1>jargon of like the petition to the court, and then

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<v Speaker 1>whenever it came time to like my actual court date,

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<v Speaker 1>I like basically just locked myself in my room and

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<v Speaker 1>told my mom I was doing like homework like online

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<v Speaker 1>school work, and told her that she needed to be

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<v Speaker 1>out of the house because I was going to have

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<v Speaker 1>to like talk with my teachers and stuff like that,

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<v Speaker 1>and like it like I just tried to get her.

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<v Speaker 1>I tried to use every excuse in the book to

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<v Speaker 1>get her out of the house, like be outside, and

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<v Speaker 1>so I would I got on zoom and it was

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<v Speaker 1>the judge, the clerk, my lawy, and then like a

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<v Speaker 1>few other people that like just had to be there

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<v Speaker 1>for like their purposes. And then the judge like, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>so sorry. This is like the first time I'm speaking

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<v Speaker 1>about this because I'm like super nervous, but I'm like promise,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm okay about it. The judges asked me a series

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<v Speaker 1>of questions like how old are you, what is your life, like,

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<v Speaker 1>is the father still in the picture? What are your

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<v Speaker 1>hopes and dreams, like just kind of like basic stuff

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<v Speaker 1>like just trying to get to know me. And then

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<v Speaker 1>she just kind of was like why do you think

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<v Speaker 1>you want an abortion? Or why do you think you

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<v Speaker 1>need an abortion? Why do you think an abortion is

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<v Speaker 1>going to make your life better than having this baby?

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<v Speaker 1>And kind of like questions like that, and then like

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<v Speaker 1>once I inswered those, she was kind of like, Okay, well,

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<v Speaker 1>why do you want an abortion set up? Like putting it

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<v Speaker 1>up for adoption or this and that, and like that's

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<v Speaker 1>whenever I kind of went into the whole like I'm

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<v Speaker 1>so sick I've had to like drop out of high school,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was a junior at the time, so it

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<v Speaker 1>was like really like time to kick it in high

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<v Speaker 1>drive for college. Yeah, and so like I just kind

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<v Speaker 1>of pleaded my case and like told them about like

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<v Speaker 1>my mom and like that situation, and she ended up

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<v Speaker 1>like granting me access.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, man, that's really really fucking crazy that

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<v Speaker 2>they're like, it's just it's just such a wild thing

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<v Speaker 2>to evaluate someone for to be like, why do you

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<v Speaker 2>think it would be better to have an abortion versus

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<v Speaker 2>like having a whole fucking ass baby, Like you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's just that's just wild. So I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>was it how shortly after that that proceeding did they

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<v Speaker 2>did you get like the email or whatever where they

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<v Speaker 2>granted you the the uh permission?

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<v Speaker 1>I got it immediately. They like it's like a actual

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<v Speaker 1>like core document that you have to like bring to

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<v Speaker 1>the clinic to like show that like they allowed you.

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<v Speaker 1>They're don't like fax it or anything. So I had

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<v Speaker 1>to like get it in. I had to get it

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<v Speaker 1>taxed over to me, which I had to go through

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<v Speaker 1>like my boyfriend's aunt because I couldn't have it done

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<v Speaker 1>at my house because my mom was going to see it.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I had to because my state has like

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<v Speaker 1>a at the time it did where you had to

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<v Speaker 1>wait so many hours in between like your first initial

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<v Speaker 1>visit and your like actual appointment visit, and so like

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<v Speaker 1>at the time, my mom still has no idea any

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<v Speaker 1>of this is happening or that I've been granted this,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I have to drive me and my boyfriend

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<v Speaker 1>have to drive two and a half hours to where

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<v Speaker 1>the clinic is like from where I live. And so

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<v Speaker 1>I had to make up an excuse that we needed

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<v Speaker 1>to sleep in my boyfriend's house or like we were

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<v Speaker 1>going to sleep ay my boyfriend's house for whatever reason,

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<v Speaker 1>just so we could go like drive it two and

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<v Speaker 1>a half hours to the appointment. And so we like

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<v Speaker 1>we go to the appointment, I do like what I

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<v Speaker 1>need to do, like all the necessarily like blood work,

0:13:04.559 --> 0:13:06.840
<v Speaker 1>they ask if I have any questions that kind of stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I have to go back a week later

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<v Speaker 1>for the actual procedure. So I've been like this whole time,

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<v Speaker 1>like I've been to like the clinic and everything, and

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm just like trying so hard not that my

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<v Speaker 1>mom like hear any of my calls or like seeing

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<v Speaker 1>anything like that or like any of the like paperwork

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<v Speaker 1>that they gave me or anything like that. And then

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<v Speaker 1>on the like day of the actual procedure, I had

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<v Speaker 1>to like or the night before actually I had to

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<v Speaker 1>lie again and say that we were sleeping at my

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<v Speaker 1>boyfriend's house because of like whatever reason. And the actual

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<v Speaker 1>day of the procedure it was like an eight hour

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<v Speaker 1>day because I wasn't allowed to have my phone and

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<v Speaker 1>it was like thirty other women there like having like

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<v Speaker 1>some kind of put like a woman made procedure done,

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<v Speaker 1>And so the whole time I'm in there, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>have my phone. My boyfriend has my phone, and he

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<v Speaker 1>tells me like whenever I get out, my mom was

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<v Speaker 1>blowing up my phone call after call, text after text.

0:14:06.240 --> 0:14:09.320
<v Speaker 1>She's like, I know you're there, I know you're doing this.

0:14:09.440 --> 0:14:11.880
<v Speaker 1>I just have this feeling answer me, why aren't you

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<v Speaker 1>answering me? And my boyfriend's like trying to text her

0:14:14.840 --> 0:14:17.600
<v Speaker 1>like as it's me, but she like keeps trying to call,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was just oh it was When I got

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<v Speaker 1>out of there and I finally called her, it was

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<v Speaker 1>it was not pretty.

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<v Speaker 2>What was that conversation, Like, well, I was really drugged up.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me first by saying that like they had given

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<v Speaker 1>me like some like really strong anti nausea stuff, and

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<v Speaker 1>so I was like fairly conscious, like I was like

0:14:38.360 --> 0:14:41.040
<v Speaker 1>half asleep, half not and like I had just gotten

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<v Speaker 1>this like procedure done, so I was like, obviously not

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<v Speaker 1>in the right state of mind, and she I was

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<v Speaker 1>like I answered, I'm like hello, and she's like Arianna,

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<v Speaker 1>where are you? And like at that point, I'm like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>it's already happened. There's no use of lying. I'm like

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm in the city and she and then she's

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<v Speaker 1>like why are you there? And I'm like because I

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<v Speaker 1>did the thing and like I told her, and she

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<v Speaker 1>just like lets out the most like heart wrenching scream

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<v Speaker 1>cry like she could like like she lost her own child,

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<v Speaker 1>Like it was so crazy and it's so it's so

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<v Speaker 1>crazy that I can still hear that that scream. And

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<v Speaker 1>she was just like, how dare you do this to me?

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<v Speaker 1>Like I said, no, this, this and that, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>like I can't really talk right now, like I'll be

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<v Speaker 1>home in a few hours. And so we end up

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<v Speaker 1>driving back and I'm like passed out the whole time,

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<v Speaker 1>and I just like end up like she texted me

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<v Speaker 1>like not that I'm home. So I'm like, well, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So I like I just I sit at my boyfriend's house.

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<v Speaker 1>And then the next day, I like I go to

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<v Speaker 1>get my car because I like, I'm just she's kicking

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<v Speaker 1>me out. So I'm just like I go and I

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<v Speaker 1>just like I have my hands up and my boyfriend's

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<v Speaker 1>like in his car and I'm like, I'm just here

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<v Speaker 1>to get my clothes in my car, that's it. And

0:16:03.720 --> 0:16:06.800
<v Speaker 1>she was like she called me a murderer. First off,

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<v Speaker 1>she literally chased me out of the house, calling me

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<v Speaker 1>a murderer, in front of all of our neighbors on

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<v Speaker 1>the street, in front of everybody. And I'm like, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just trying to get my car in my clothes. Mom,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just trying to hear my car and my clothes.

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<v Speaker 1>And then she's like just calling me a murderer all

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<v Speaker 1>this and that I'm like in full blown tears at

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<v Speaker 1>this point, like and I just I just get in

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<v Speaker 1>the car and I leave because I'm like, well, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not getting my clothes on my car.

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<v Speaker 2>So have had you been? Did you ever go back

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<v Speaker 2>and get your stuff from the house?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh? Yeah? There's like a lot more after that. So

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<v Speaker 1>like a few days go by and she like eventually

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<v Speaker 1>lets me back in the house and like we have

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<v Speaker 1>like kind of like a heart to heart and I

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<v Speaker 1>like tell her my side, she tells me her side,

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<v Speaker 1>and I reside was basically just all of a sudden,

0:17:03.560 --> 0:17:07.960
<v Speaker 1>she like became religious and like she couldn't imagine killing

0:17:08.000 --> 0:17:12.040
<v Speaker 1>her own flesh and blood, and I'm like, that's crazy.

0:17:12.040 --> 0:17:16.320
<v Speaker 1>You've never taken me to church before, and so like

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<v Speaker 1>that was kind of like her preposition like looking at

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<v Speaker 1>it and why she couldn't like allow it because it

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<v Speaker 1>was technically like she just kind of understood that it

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<v Speaker 1>was her choice and not my choice, and so she

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<v Speaker 1>was like, I can't allow this. If it's my choice,

0:17:32.760 --> 0:17:39.119
<v Speaker 1>I can't allow this. But I was able to like

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<v Speaker 1>move back in and like we were okay for a

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<v Speaker 1>few months and then so mind you this whole time,

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<v Speaker 1>like before I got pregnant and like right after I

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<v Speaker 1>had the first proteacher, I was on breake control, Like

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<v Speaker 1>I religiously took my breath control with my vitamins in

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<v Speaker 1>the morning.

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<v Speaker 2>And you said, got pregnant on breath control, yep.

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<v Speaker 1>And I got pregnant again on birth control like three

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<v Speaker 1>months later.

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<v Speaker 2>So I know you said this, I know you said

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<v Speaker 2>that happened again, but just I guess real quick, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>so so you and your mom kind of like so

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<v Speaker 2>tensions were like incredibly crazy fucking high. She chases you

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<v Speaker 2>out of the house and then how many days later

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<v Speaker 2>is it that you guys like you know, I want

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<v Speaker 2>to say to this talk to each other.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe five days to a week we didn't have any.

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<v Speaker 2>Contact, and how's that happen? Does she does she reach out?

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<v Speaker 2>Did you reach out?

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<v Speaker 1>I want to say, she reached out? And because like

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<v Speaker 1>this whole time, I'm like living at my boyfriend's house. Yeah,

0:18:46.680 --> 0:18:51.280
<v Speaker 1>and so but it's like this happened. I want to say,

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<v Speaker 1>it was like kind of the last two weeks of May,

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<v Speaker 1>like whenever she called me that and like we didn't talk,

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<v Speaker 1>and then by like the first of June she like

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<v Speaker 1>let me back in the house. So I want to say,

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<v Speaker 1>because my grandma was like also really heavily involved, but

0:19:08.240 --> 0:19:11.800
<v Speaker 1>she's like she's like very religious, but like she like

0:19:12.000 --> 0:19:14.439
<v Speaker 1>still loves me. She was like kind of like mending

0:19:14.480 --> 0:19:16.679
<v Speaker 1>the sense of like I don't want you to do this,

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<v Speaker 1>but I understand it's your choice, but you're doing this,

0:19:18.920 --> 0:19:21.159
<v Speaker 1>but you're doing that. And so I think, like I

0:19:21.200 --> 0:19:23.720
<v Speaker 1>think va me talking to my grandma and explaining my

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<v Speaker 1>point of view and how I'm seeing things and her

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<v Speaker 1>talking to my mom kind of ease the barrier because

0:19:30.440 --> 0:19:33.959
<v Speaker 1>like she was kind of the division between us, so

0:19:34.160 --> 0:19:36.760
<v Speaker 1>like we were getting both each other's points via my

0:19:36.800 --> 0:19:40.280
<v Speaker 1>grandma who was like a very neutral influence between us both.

0:19:40.320 --> 0:19:42.200
<v Speaker 1>Like I knew she supported my mom, but I knew

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<v Speaker 1>she also supported me, and I think my mom knew

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<v Speaker 1>the same. So I think like because my grandma was

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<v Speaker 1>able to like talk to her and kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>explain my side a little bit more and like kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like almost as a mom talked to her, been like, look,

0:19:56.240 --> 0:19:58.360
<v Speaker 1>this is your child, like you know, like she made

0:19:58.359 --> 0:20:01.080
<v Speaker 1>a choice for herself. I think that kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>my mom off the fence. And also she had stopped

0:20:03.640 --> 0:20:07.119
<v Speaker 1>using like once I had gotten the procedure done, and

0:20:07.200 --> 0:20:10.040
<v Speaker 1>she had like she's like I want to say, she

0:20:10.119 --> 0:20:13.960
<v Speaker 1>went full dry like killed and drinking for a bit.

0:20:14.400 --> 0:20:16.080
<v Speaker 1>I want to say, for maybe like a month or two.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I think like her her being sober to

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<v Speaker 1>like helped ease her forgiveness to me.

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<v Speaker 2>M M. And so okay, you have the procedure. Everything

0:20:29.400 --> 0:20:32.879
<v Speaker 2>blows up around five days later, your grandma talks a

0:20:32.920 --> 0:20:35.200
<v Speaker 2>little bit of sense into your mom. You and your

0:20:35.200 --> 0:20:40.320
<v Speaker 2>mom have a rekindling of sorts. And in that rekindling,

0:20:41.359 --> 0:20:45.600
<v Speaker 2>you know, are you you go back you go back

0:20:45.640 --> 0:20:47.399
<v Speaker 2>home and you you were living at your boyfriend's for

0:20:47.440 --> 0:20:49.199
<v Speaker 2>those five days and then you go back home and

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<v Speaker 2>you live in your house with your mom again. Yeah, okay,

0:20:53.800 --> 0:20:56.280
<v Speaker 2>And how are you feeling with with your mom? Is

0:20:56.280 --> 0:20:59.480
<v Speaker 2>the ore? The tensions like lower at this port. Are

0:20:59.520 --> 0:21:03.080
<v Speaker 2>you guys able to like, you know, be around each other?

0:21:05.359 --> 0:21:08.000
<v Speaker 1>Was like, it's very obvious that she still has a

0:21:08.000 --> 0:21:13.359
<v Speaker 1>lot of resentment and anger towards me. But in like

0:21:13.400 --> 0:21:15.560
<v Speaker 1>the first month, it wasn't that bad because I had

0:21:15.600 --> 0:21:17.920
<v Speaker 1>ended up. I got a job like really soon after,

0:21:19.160 --> 0:21:23.159
<v Speaker 1>and so I was just like literally working forty forty

0:21:23.160 --> 0:21:25.159
<v Speaker 1>five hours a week, like just trying to be out

0:21:25.160 --> 0:21:28.040
<v Speaker 1>of the house as much as physically possible. And then

0:21:28.080 --> 0:21:29.480
<v Speaker 1>like the rest of the time I would just like

0:21:29.520 --> 0:21:32.199
<v Speaker 1>be at my boyfriends or hanging out with him. So

0:21:32.359 --> 0:21:35.080
<v Speaker 1>I was out of the house pretty much from like

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<v Speaker 1>morning until night.

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<v Speaker 2>And so you get pregnant again, Yeah, and you're on

0:21:47.560 --> 0:21:50.040
<v Speaker 2>and so you're on birth control, but you got pregnant

0:21:50.320 --> 0:21:56.200
<v Speaker 2>on birth control twice? Yeah? Is that like a statistical anomaly?

0:21:57.560 --> 0:22:00.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? My like my OV was like I, I can't

0:22:00.320 --> 0:22:03.560
<v Speaker 1>believe I'm seeing you again, Like they like they couldn't

0:22:03.560 --> 0:22:05.600
<v Speaker 1>believe it themselves because they had prescribed me as the

0:22:05.640 --> 0:22:10.760
<v Speaker 1>birth control both times, and it had worked for three

0:22:12.240 --> 0:22:15.720
<v Speaker 1>two years beforehand, like I had had sex and had

0:22:15.840 --> 0:22:19.280
<v Speaker 1>never never gotten pregnant.

0:22:19.600 --> 0:22:24.000
<v Speaker 2>Dude, that's crazy. What what is the I mean, what's what?

0:22:24.000 --> 0:22:25.959
<v Speaker 2>What's the math on that? Do you know?

0:22:28.920 --> 0:22:34.960
<v Speaker 1>Maybe like one out of one hundred to five hundred thousand, maybe, man,

0:22:35.119 --> 0:22:35.680
<v Speaker 1>maybe more.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, if only you only you gotta if only

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<v Speaker 2>you gotta scratch off instead of a baby, I know, right.

0:22:42.880 --> 0:22:53.159
<v Speaker 1>If only I was legal enough so it could be

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<v Speaker 1>a millionaire.

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<v Speaker 2>So I mean, tell me, man, what what what happened?

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<v Speaker 2>What happens the second go round?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so before the second time, my mom ended up

0:23:06.320 --> 0:23:10.200
<v Speaker 1>suing the state. Like my mom was like, I can't

0:23:10.200 --> 0:23:12.680
<v Speaker 1>believe this law exists. I can't believe you would take

0:23:12.720 --> 0:23:16.160
<v Speaker 1>that choice out of parents, right, And so my mom

0:23:16.240 --> 0:23:17.320
<v Speaker 1>ended up suing the state.

0:23:17.880 --> 0:23:20.560
<v Speaker 2>Your mom swore the state. Your mom sued the state

0:23:20.680 --> 0:23:22.920
<v Speaker 2>and one wait, okay, hold on, this is this is

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<v Speaker 2>this is now, this is before you get pregnant the

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<v Speaker 2>second time?

0:23:26.760 --> 0:23:28.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this is like right after she found out in

0:23:28.520 --> 0:23:34.520
<v Speaker 1>the first one, so like, that's what happens. So like

0:23:34.800 --> 0:23:38.639
<v Speaker 1>basically she like she teamed up with this group of

0:23:38.680 --> 0:23:42.399
<v Speaker 1>pro life lawyers and like wrote a letter to the

0:23:42.480 --> 0:23:46.879
<v Speaker 1>legislative being like, this is my experience, and then like

0:23:46.960 --> 0:23:50.479
<v Speaker 1>said exactly what happened. As a parent, I can't believe

0:23:50.560 --> 0:23:54.000
<v Speaker 1>this law exists, YadA, YadA, YadA, And I guess it

0:23:54.080 --> 0:23:58.399
<v Speaker 1>caused enough uproar that they changed the law to where

0:23:58.800 --> 0:24:02.040
<v Speaker 1>if you wanted, oh it's called judicial bypass. If you

0:24:02.040 --> 0:24:07.160
<v Speaker 1>want a judicial bypass, you had to now go in

0:24:07.280 --> 0:24:10.320
<v Speaker 1>court in your parish instead of the parish that the

0:24:10.359 --> 0:24:13.040
<v Speaker 1>clinic was in, which is why I was doing online

0:24:13.080 --> 0:24:14.639
<v Speaker 1>zoom because I was meeting with a judge two and

0:24:14.680 --> 0:24:17.840
<v Speaker 1>a half hours away. So now if you wanted that,

0:24:17.960 --> 0:24:19.960
<v Speaker 1>you had to do it in your parish. And so

0:24:20.800 --> 0:24:24.040
<v Speaker 1>Louisiana has like I don't know, maybe like sixty something parishes,

0:24:24.280 --> 0:24:27.000
<v Speaker 1>only three of them ever saw these type of cases.

0:24:27.640 --> 0:24:30.320
<v Speaker 1>So by the time my second one rolls around, I

0:24:30.560 --> 0:24:34.480
<v Speaker 1>have to be the guinea pig of my parish's judicial

0:24:34.480 --> 0:24:37.359
<v Speaker 1>system and testing whether or not they're going to allow

0:24:37.440 --> 0:24:39.879
<v Speaker 1>me this because it's never happened before. Because the law

0:24:39.880 --> 0:24:40.679
<v Speaker 1>had just changed.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, I have a stupid all right, we got

0:24:43.760 --> 0:24:45.879
<v Speaker 2>We'll get into this, but I have a stupid question.

0:24:46.000 --> 0:24:48.560
<v Speaker 1>First, there's no stupid questions.

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<v Speaker 2>What all right? What is a parish?

0:24:53.920 --> 0:24:56.719
<v Speaker 1>Okay? A parish is like a county. It's like Louisiana's

0:24:56.800 --> 0:24:57.560
<v Speaker 1>version of county.

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<v Speaker 2>Ah, okay, all right, thought it was like a church.

0:25:01.240 --> 0:25:02.639
<v Speaker 2>I don't know why I thought it was a church.

0:25:02.920 --> 0:25:03.199
<v Speaker 1>You know what.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought it was a church because there's like a

0:25:04.720 --> 0:25:09.359
<v Speaker 2>left you know, Left for Dead. No, this is a

0:25:09.440 --> 0:25:12.159
<v Speaker 2>video game. It's called Left for Dead. It's in the

0:25:12.240 --> 0:25:16.600
<v Speaker 2>in Left for Dead too, there's a fucking uh map

0:25:17.040 --> 0:25:19.320
<v Speaker 2>called and has the word perish in it, and it

0:25:19.359 --> 0:25:24.080
<v Speaker 2>takes place in a church. Whatever. Okay? So okay, So

0:25:24.119 --> 0:25:28.760
<v Speaker 2>your mom fucking sues, the state wins changes the laws

0:25:28.800 --> 0:25:31.600
<v Speaker 2>so that you can't go to a different county to

0:25:31.840 --> 0:25:34.479
<v Speaker 2>get your judicial bypass, And so now you get pregnant

0:25:34.520 --> 0:25:38.920
<v Speaker 2>a second time, uh one in one hundred thousand chants,

0:25:39.240 --> 0:25:43.639
<v Speaker 2>and now you have to be the first person to

0:25:44.440 --> 0:25:49.119
<v Speaker 2>uh get your judicial bypass exclusively in the county that

0:25:49.200 --> 0:25:49.919
<v Speaker 2>you are local to.

0:25:51.520 --> 0:25:56.840
<v Speaker 1>Yes, And my mother knew about the second one because

0:25:56.880 --> 0:25:58.480
<v Speaker 1>she came to the hospital with me because I thought

0:25:58.480 --> 0:26:02.440
<v Speaker 1>I was just sick and I ended up testing positive

0:26:02.520 --> 0:26:04.440
<v Speaker 1>And so she found out at the exact same time

0:26:04.480 --> 0:26:04.840
<v Speaker 1>as me.

0:26:05.560 --> 0:26:09.840
<v Speaker 2>Your mom, Yeah, and what happened then.

0:26:12.000 --> 0:26:15.119
<v Speaker 1>She told like I told her I wasn't gonna have it,

0:26:15.200 --> 0:26:18.000
<v Speaker 1>and she said, well, don't bother coming back to the

0:26:18.040 --> 0:26:21.040
<v Speaker 1>house and got up, got out of the hospital room

0:26:21.160 --> 0:26:21.800
<v Speaker 1>and left me.

0:26:24.840 --> 0:26:26.639
<v Speaker 2>Was that the last time you saw her?

0:26:27.440 --> 0:26:34.199
<v Speaker 1>No? Ironically, she got up left, I had to like

0:26:34.240 --> 0:26:36.320
<v Speaker 1>call my boyfriend to come pick me up. I like

0:26:36.560 --> 0:26:41.560
<v Speaker 1>got in contact with those people again, and like we

0:26:41.680 --> 0:26:49.040
<v Speaker 1>started the process to like do it in my county.

0:26:47.520 --> 0:26:50.399
<v Speaker 2>And my whole thing all over again.

0:26:51.640 --> 0:26:56.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and my mom ended up suing me and the state. Well,

0:26:56.960 --> 0:27:00.679
<v Speaker 1>she sued everybody. So she sued me, She sues the

0:27:00.720 --> 0:27:04.080
<v Speaker 1>attorney general, she sees the governor, and she sues the

0:27:04.240 --> 0:27:05.560
<v Speaker 1>like legislative branch.

0:27:07.359 --> 0:27:07.920
<v Speaker 2>Did she win?

0:27:09.680 --> 0:27:12.639
<v Speaker 1>No, because so ironic, Oh my god, everything about this

0:27:12.680 --> 0:27:15.680
<v Speaker 1>story is ironic. But ironic enough. My court date ended

0:27:15.720 --> 0:27:23.439
<v Speaker 1>up being one day before hers. So I went in

0:27:23.480 --> 0:27:26.800
<v Speaker 1>front of this old white man and I'm like this

0:27:27.480 --> 0:27:31.760
<v Speaker 1>five six white like blonde white girl, and I'm just like,

0:27:32.440 --> 0:27:36.879
<v Speaker 1>please please have this uh, And he's like he asks

0:27:36.920 --> 0:27:39.080
<v Speaker 1>me kind of like the same series of questions, although

0:27:39.119 --> 0:27:42.560
<v Speaker 1>he's just as confused as pretty much everyone else because

0:27:42.560 --> 0:27:46.360
<v Speaker 1>he has no idea like what the marker for maturity

0:27:46.480 --> 0:27:49.119
<v Speaker 1>is in this case, because he's never seen a case

0:27:49.240 --> 0:27:49.600
<v Speaker 1>like this.

0:27:50.440 --> 0:27:53.600
<v Speaker 2>Oh so this is this is this county's first time

0:27:53.760 --> 0:27:56.159
<v Speaker 2>even doing these kind of like procedures.

0:27:56.800 --> 0:27:59.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm the very first one. Yeah.

0:27:59.160 --> 0:28:03.560
<v Speaker 2>Interesting, okay, And so you.

0:28:03.480 --> 0:28:05.320
<v Speaker 1>Know, he asks me kind of like the same series

0:28:05.320 --> 0:28:08.800
<v Speaker 1>of questions like what's your life, Like, what's your dreams

0:28:08.800 --> 0:28:13.080
<v Speaker 1>with your goals and your aspirations? Is the father still involved?

0:28:13.119 --> 0:28:16.040
<v Speaker 1>Does he support you? Like what's your family situation like?

0:28:16.640 --> 0:28:18.320
<v Speaker 1>And like, so at this point I was able to

0:28:18.320 --> 0:28:21.200
<v Speaker 1>tell him like, yeah, I'm homeless, like I got picked

0:28:21.240 --> 0:28:25.080
<v Speaker 1>out of my house, Like it's I barely have enough

0:28:25.119 --> 0:28:28.080
<v Speaker 1>money to pay for this procedure and these coordinarings by itself,

0:28:28.640 --> 0:28:33.040
<v Speaker 1>let alone like actually having a baby. And so I

0:28:33.080 --> 0:28:36.720
<v Speaker 1>think those kind of like surrealish things I think really

0:28:36.720 --> 0:28:40.440
<v Speaker 1>helped my side, and he ended up allowing me, which

0:28:40.440 --> 0:28:42.320
<v Speaker 1>I was very surprised about. I thought we were going

0:28:42.360 --> 0:28:45.040
<v Speaker 1>to have to appeal because my lawyer had prepared me

0:28:45.320 --> 0:28:48.160
<v Speaker 1>like in face of rejection, like you know, like don't cry,

0:28:48.640 --> 0:28:51.520
<v Speaker 1>just like just breathe, like, we'll go to appeals like

0:28:51.640 --> 0:28:53.040
<v Speaker 1>right after this. We'll be okay.

0:28:54.920 --> 0:28:56.880
<v Speaker 2>And it different lawyer from last.

0:28:56.640 --> 0:29:01.120
<v Speaker 1>Time, right, yeah, this is this is this one like

0:29:02.040 --> 0:29:04.600
<v Speaker 1>kind of lived in my area. He like was associated

0:29:04.640 --> 0:29:06.280
<v Speaker 1>with the group, but he lived. But he had to

0:29:06.320 --> 0:29:08.280
<v Speaker 1>like physically be present with me this time.

0:29:08.760 --> 0:29:10.480
<v Speaker 2>And so now you're you're not on zoom anymore. This

0:29:10.520 --> 0:29:11.800
<v Speaker 2>time you're here in a place.

0:29:11.920 --> 0:29:14.080
<v Speaker 1>No, I'm like in my in my local.

0:29:13.800 --> 0:29:16.360
<v Speaker 2>Courthouse, okay, And so what happens?

0:29:17.920 --> 0:29:22.320
<v Speaker 1>And so my mom is basically like suing for a

0:29:22.440 --> 0:29:28.680
<v Speaker 1>temporary restraining order on like any court proceeding dealing with me.

0:29:30.720 --> 0:29:31.360
<v Speaker 1>And so.

0:29:34.000 --> 0:29:38.200
<v Speaker 2>Sorry dinner, rup, but she's okay, so you said, she okay,

0:29:38.240 --> 0:29:40.440
<v Speaker 2>So she's suing like five differ people. She's fucking sue

0:29:40.440 --> 0:29:43.600
<v Speaker 2>in the court house. She's suing, you said, she sued you?

0:29:43.680 --> 0:29:46.959
<v Speaker 2>How did what the fuck? What is what's her grounds

0:29:46.960 --> 0:29:48.320
<v Speaker 2>for a lawsuit against you?

0:29:49.560 --> 0:29:52.560
<v Speaker 1>So I'm not too sure what the like legal jargon

0:29:52.600 --> 0:29:54.400
<v Speaker 1>of it was. But she had teamed up with the

0:29:54.520 --> 0:29:57.760
<v Speaker 1>lawyer like the same group of pro life lawyers and

0:29:57.800 --> 0:30:04.280
<v Speaker 1>then another lawyer from Californi and basically their their whole

0:30:04.360 --> 0:30:10.640
<v Speaker 1>legal stance was to stop me from retaining this judicial bypass,

0:30:11.280 --> 0:30:15.920
<v Speaker 1>so that then their court proceedings against the state for

0:30:17.720 --> 0:30:23.560
<v Speaker 1>allowing something something along the lines of stopping me from

0:30:23.600 --> 0:30:26.960
<v Speaker 1>getting the judicial bypass to then allow their court proceedings

0:30:27.000 --> 0:30:29.120
<v Speaker 1>to go on and duke out whether or not this

0:30:29.360 --> 0:30:31.520
<v Speaker 1>is legal or not or whether.

0:30:32.360 --> 0:30:34.760
<v Speaker 2>Oh so they okay, So they their whole thing was

0:30:34.800 --> 0:30:38.040
<v Speaker 2>they want to stop your procedure so that they can

0:30:38.080 --> 0:30:41.560
<v Speaker 2>hope to win again, to get you to not be

0:30:41.600 --> 0:30:47.240
<v Speaker 2>able to get your judicial bypass. Yes, that's fucking, that's

0:30:47.280 --> 0:30:47.959
<v Speaker 2>pretty fucked.

0:30:49.080 --> 0:30:52.760
<v Speaker 1>And she won, but it was won. It was one

0:30:52.800 --> 0:30:54.760
<v Speaker 1>day too wait, because their court day was after mine.

0:30:54.800 --> 0:30:58.640
<v Speaker 1>I had already been granted it. So I had already

0:30:58.800 --> 0:31:01.520
<v Speaker 1>gone to already gone to the clinic, like cause the

0:31:01.600 --> 0:31:04.600
<v Speaker 1>day that my court hearing was, I had an appointment

0:31:05.080 --> 0:31:08.480
<v Speaker 1>at like at the clinic again, and so I was

0:31:08.560 --> 0:31:10.920
<v Speaker 1>able to Right after I left the courthouse, I went

0:31:11.000 --> 0:31:14.960
<v Speaker 1>straight there and then I started the medication. And once

0:31:15.000 --> 0:31:17.240
<v Speaker 1>you start the medication, and after it's been so long,

0:31:17.320 --> 0:31:20.640
<v Speaker 1>it can't stop. So by time twenty four hours later

0:31:20.840 --> 0:31:22.960
<v Speaker 1>and it was their court hearing, I was already past

0:31:23.000 --> 0:31:24.520
<v Speaker 1>the point where there was no salvation.

0:31:26.560 --> 0:31:31.400
<v Speaker 2>Dude, So all right, so you get your judicial bypass

0:31:31.520 --> 0:31:36.200
<v Speaker 2>granted by this local parish and then like a day after,

0:31:36.960 --> 0:31:41.520
<v Speaker 2>your mom wins her court case to prevent anyone from

0:31:41.520 --> 0:31:43.040
<v Speaker 2>being able to get judicial bypass.

0:31:44.160 --> 0:31:45.800
<v Speaker 1>Yes, anyone in the entire state.

0:31:46.760 --> 0:31:54.120
<v Speaker 2>Really mm hmm, that's fucking crazy man. Wow.

0:31:57.200 --> 0:31:59.400
<v Speaker 1>And then my like so at this time, like my

0:31:59.480 --> 0:32:02.280
<v Speaker 1>mom is not letting me live with her, like I

0:32:02.320 --> 0:32:09.000
<v Speaker 1>am fan barred all of the above, and so my boyfriend,

0:32:09.480 --> 0:32:11.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm like kind of living with my boyfriend and his aunt,

0:32:11.560 --> 0:32:14.240
<v Speaker 1>and his aunt ends up kicking me out too. And

0:32:14.440 --> 0:32:19.920
<v Speaker 1>it's she really doesn't like me, Like she understood our

0:32:19.960 --> 0:32:23.520
<v Speaker 1>circumstances and like she wants the best for her like

0:32:23.560 --> 0:32:26.120
<v Speaker 1>her nephew, but she really doesn't like me. We've just

0:32:26.360 --> 0:32:29.000
<v Speaker 1>never gotten along. It's something personal, I don't think. But

0:32:29.120 --> 0:32:31.080
<v Speaker 1>it had to do with like smoking weed and like

0:32:31.120 --> 0:32:31.800
<v Speaker 1>that kind of thing.

0:32:33.240 --> 0:32:35.280
<v Speaker 2>Is she also like a crazy religious person.

0:32:36.800 --> 0:32:39.600
<v Speaker 1>No, she's actually really cool. That was that was the

0:32:39.640 --> 0:32:41.800
<v Speaker 1>weird thing about it. Is like she lets, like her

0:32:41.800 --> 0:32:44.240
<v Speaker 1>son and like her nephew, smoke, but like whenever it

0:32:44.280 --> 0:32:46.640
<v Speaker 1>came to me, like she thought I was like a

0:32:46.640 --> 0:32:47.400
<v Speaker 1>bad influence.

0:32:50.280 --> 0:32:53.360
<v Speaker 2>So now in the state of Louisiana, know like, if

0:32:53.400 --> 0:32:56.520
<v Speaker 2>you're sixteen and you get pregnant, you cannot and your

0:32:56.560 --> 0:32:59.160
<v Speaker 2>mom like forces you to have a baby. You cannot

0:32:59.320 --> 0:33:01.360
<v Speaker 2>get judicial bypass to get an abortion.

0:33:02.880 --> 0:33:06.040
<v Speaker 1>Well not since Rogie Waite overturned. You just can't get

0:33:06.040 --> 0:33:10.320
<v Speaker 1>an abortion in Louisiana. But before it was. But then

0:33:10.360 --> 0:33:13.360
<v Speaker 1>she once she figured out I had gotten my abortion,

0:33:13.480 --> 0:33:15.880
<v Speaker 1>she dropped her lawsuit because she was like, there's no

0:33:15.920 --> 0:33:18.840
<v Speaker 1>point in pursuing this if my daughter, because if I

0:33:18.840 --> 0:33:21.000
<v Speaker 1>would have ever gotten pregnant, like right after I would

0:33:21.000 --> 0:33:22.560
<v Speaker 1>have been eighteen, would have been able to time for

0:33:22.680 --> 0:33:23.240
<v Speaker 1>my own.

0:33:24.680 --> 0:33:31.440
<v Speaker 2>So so after you get your second abortion, your mom

0:33:31.560 --> 0:33:33.880
<v Speaker 2>stops fighting everyone because she's just like, well, there's no

0:33:33.880 --> 0:33:34.480
<v Speaker 2>point anymore.

0:33:35.400 --> 0:33:36.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, she just lets go.

0:33:37.600 --> 0:33:41.400
<v Speaker 2>So all right, so you you were you were living

0:33:41.440 --> 0:33:43.360
<v Speaker 2>with all right, So you get your second abortion, your

0:33:43.400 --> 0:33:49.360
<v Speaker 2>mom is like doing whatever. You're living with your boyfriend

0:33:50.160 --> 0:33:54.840
<v Speaker 2>and his aunt and then his aunt kicks you out. Yeah,

0:33:55.480 --> 0:33:57.040
<v Speaker 2>and then where do you go from there?

0:33:59.200 --> 0:34:03.040
<v Speaker 1>Well? I kind of just like like I lived in

0:34:03.040 --> 0:34:04.720
<v Speaker 1>my car for like a couple of days, but then

0:34:04.800 --> 0:34:07.280
<v Speaker 1>like that wasn't really I couldn't really do that and

0:34:07.360 --> 0:34:09.000
<v Speaker 1>go to school because I was still in school, like

0:34:09.000 --> 0:34:10.719
<v Speaker 1>I was able to enroll back in school for my

0:34:10.760 --> 0:34:14.600
<v Speaker 1>senior year. So I was like, well, this kind of

0:34:14.600 --> 0:34:17.400
<v Speaker 1>can't work. So I called up my godfather, who was

0:34:17.560 --> 0:34:22.520
<v Speaker 1>extremely religious and like he knew everything that was going on,

0:34:22.600 --> 0:34:26.440
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, hey, this is a situation, like

0:34:26.880 --> 0:34:29.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm working on getting emancipated to like be able to

0:34:29.400 --> 0:34:31.440
<v Speaker 1>sign to my own apartment, but because I'm not in

0:34:31.480 --> 0:34:34.640
<v Speaker 1>no apartment complex, will let me sign? Can I stay

0:34:34.640 --> 0:34:39.400
<v Speaker 1>with you for a few months? And thank him? I

0:34:39.400 --> 0:34:41.719
<v Speaker 1>thank him every day he let me stay with him.

0:34:42.160 --> 0:34:45.280
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know staying with him for probably four months

0:34:45.320 --> 0:34:47.960
<v Speaker 1>before I was able to get into my apartment and

0:34:48.000 --> 0:34:51.200
<v Speaker 1>move out. But I got emancipated in that time. My

0:34:51.280 --> 0:34:53.400
<v Speaker 1>lawyer like saw what my mom was doing and like

0:34:53.440 --> 0:34:56.680
<v Speaker 1>all the litigation, and he was like, hell, I'll help

0:34:56.719 --> 0:34:59.040
<v Speaker 1>you get emancipated, like no charge if you want to.

0:34:59.200 --> 0:35:01.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, yeah, please.

0:35:03.400 --> 0:35:05.360
<v Speaker 2>So you get emancipate when you're like what seventeen?

0:35:06.840 --> 0:35:09.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it ended up. I ended up. I think it

0:35:09.560 --> 0:35:12.800
<v Speaker 1>was November fourth, twenty twenty one. I was seventeen. My mom.

0:35:13.000 --> 0:35:16.080
<v Speaker 1>My mom was gonna try and fight it with one

0:35:16.080 --> 0:35:20.000
<v Speaker 1>of her lawyer friends. But whenever, like I told her,

0:35:20.080 --> 0:35:21.920
<v Speaker 1>who I was gonna like have his witness, like her

0:35:21.960 --> 0:35:25.120
<v Speaker 1>ex boyfriend and like some other family members who she

0:35:25.160 --> 0:35:27.400
<v Speaker 1>kind of sucked over. She was like, yeah, I'm gonna

0:35:27.600 --> 0:35:28.360
<v Speaker 1>a losing battle.

0:35:28.800 --> 0:35:38.279
<v Speaker 2>Goddamn dude. So all right, so you get emancipated, and

0:35:38.280 --> 0:35:39.520
<v Speaker 2>then what do you do? What do you do? From there?

0:35:39.560 --> 0:35:42.360
<v Speaker 2>You're living with your I'm sorry you said your your uncle.

0:35:43.560 --> 0:35:45.719
<v Speaker 1>My godfather. He was like kind of like my father

0:35:45.800 --> 0:35:48.160
<v Speaker 1>figure in my life, okay, and so I just kind

0:35:48.200 --> 0:35:51.759
<v Speaker 1>of live with him. I live with him until the

0:35:51.840 --> 0:35:55.400
<v Speaker 1>end of January, from like November, from like October November

0:35:55.520 --> 0:35:58.560
<v Speaker 1>ish till January twenty twenty two, and then me and

0:35:58.600 --> 0:36:01.200
<v Speaker 1>my boyfriend moved into our apartment. And I'm still a

0:36:01.280 --> 0:36:03.880
<v Speaker 1>senior in high school right now.

0:36:03.960 --> 0:36:05.480
<v Speaker 2>Where you're senior high school right now?

0:36:05.760 --> 0:36:07.919
<v Speaker 1>No, I was. I was at the time.

0:36:08.000 --> 0:36:11.200
<v Speaker 2>So so you're like seventeen eighteen, you're senior in high school.

0:36:11.239 --> 0:36:13.040
<v Speaker 2>You and your boyfriend moved to an apartment. How are

0:36:13.040 --> 0:36:14.279
<v Speaker 2>you paying for it? Do you guys have a job?

0:36:15.800 --> 0:36:18.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well I was. I was working since right after

0:36:19.200 --> 0:36:22.600
<v Speaker 1>my first one, and then he had been working since

0:36:22.760 --> 0:36:27.640
<v Speaker 1>like six months before. So we were both like and

0:36:27.920 --> 0:36:30.480
<v Speaker 1>we were both high school seniors just like working like

0:36:30.840 --> 0:36:33.600
<v Speaker 1>normal stops. Like I was working at Starbucks and he

0:36:33.640 --> 0:36:34.760
<v Speaker 1>was working at the grocery store.

0:36:35.040 --> 0:36:37.600
<v Speaker 2>How'd you get time to work while being in high school?

0:36:39.160 --> 0:36:42.799
<v Speaker 1>Well, because I was a senior, I only had two classes,

0:36:43.040 --> 0:36:44.960
<v Speaker 1>Like those were only the credits I need to be

0:36:44.960 --> 0:36:47.440
<v Speaker 1>finished because I was like smart and did like some

0:36:47.520 --> 0:36:49.640
<v Speaker 1>of my credits in middle school. But I didn't have

0:36:49.680 --> 0:36:50.799
<v Speaker 1>to have like a full.

0:36:53.920 --> 0:36:58.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, so you didn't have to go to school.

0:36:58.640 --> 0:37:00.439
<v Speaker 2>So you were going to high school like a part

0:37:00.440 --> 0:37:02.200
<v Speaker 2>time and then on like a work release after that.

0:37:03.680 --> 0:37:05.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So I was like going to school from like

0:37:05.680 --> 0:37:08.960
<v Speaker 1>seven to nine thirty and then I was like at

0:37:09.000 --> 0:37:11.600
<v Speaker 1>work from like either like ten to five, where like

0:37:11.600 --> 0:37:14.080
<v Speaker 1>I would work the closing like twelve to nine thirty.

0:37:14.880 --> 0:37:16.239
<v Speaker 2>And that was an I know a lot of like

0:37:16.440 --> 0:37:18.920
<v Speaker 2>did you like from from like the Starbucks and the

0:37:18.960 --> 0:37:20.520
<v Speaker 2>grocery street. You guys were able to make rent?

0:37:22.360 --> 0:37:26.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was actually pretty cheap. It was only like

0:37:26.239 --> 0:37:28.040
<v Speaker 1>five hundred whenever we first moved in.

0:37:28.840 --> 0:37:31.720
<v Speaker 2>Damn it was what a one bedroom.

0:37:33.239 --> 0:37:34.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was like a one bedroom condo.

0:37:34.920 --> 0:37:37.560
<v Speaker 2>It was like downstairs one bedroom condo.

0:37:37.640 --> 0:37:42.000
<v Speaker 1>Five hundred bucks a month, just no, a one bedroom.

0:37:42.400 --> 0:37:46.360
<v Speaker 2>Well a one bedroom five hundred bucks a month. Yeah,

0:37:46.760 --> 0:37:54.200
<v Speaker 2>pretty fucking good, especially between two of you guys. Yeah, jeez,

0:37:55.200 --> 0:37:59.560
<v Speaker 2>oh my god. And so have you? Are you still

0:37:59.640 --> 0:38:00.920
<v Speaker 2>is that where you're still living now?

0:38:02.600 --> 0:38:04.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? And so I graduate.

0:38:05.760 --> 0:38:11.959
<v Speaker 2>And now you're in college college? What do you study?

0:38:12.280 --> 0:38:13.160
<v Speaker 1>Microbiology?

0:38:13.880 --> 0:38:15.600
<v Speaker 2>Wow? And your boyfriend, what's you do?

0:38:17.719 --> 0:38:19.400
<v Speaker 1>He still works at the same grocery store, but he

0:38:19.440 --> 0:38:20.600
<v Speaker 1>works in like the meat department.

0:38:21.520 --> 0:38:26.000
<v Speaker 2>Cool, he likes and does stuff. What's what's what's the

0:38:26.160 --> 0:38:27.399
<v Speaker 2>what's the hope and dream for you?

0:38:32.719 --> 0:38:37.120
<v Speaker 1>Definitely move out of his town, definitely, probably states, maybe countries.

0:38:38.600 --> 0:38:40.200
<v Speaker 1>I kind of just want to live like a little

0:38:40.360 --> 0:38:43.719
<v Speaker 1>farm life in a cottage in like the mountains and

0:38:43.880 --> 0:38:44.800
<v Speaker 1>just garden.

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<v Speaker 2>So did you ever talk to your mom again?

0:38:52.400 --> 0:38:56.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? About like whenever I was moving in, she like

0:38:57.280 --> 0:39:01.360
<v Speaker 1>slowly started to like integrate her way back into my life.

0:39:01.440 --> 0:39:05.520
<v Speaker 1>Like she offered like bias a TV and like bias groceries,

0:39:06.000 --> 0:39:08.640
<v Speaker 1>and like I was pissed, poor broke at the time.

0:39:08.680 --> 0:39:11.799
<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to deny the help. So she like

0:39:11.880 --> 0:39:14.520
<v Speaker 1>slowly started to ease her way in that way. And

0:39:14.560 --> 0:39:19.279
<v Speaker 1>then now it's crazy to say, but we're actually kind

0:39:19.280 --> 0:39:22.600
<v Speaker 1>of cool. It's like really not really mother daughter. We're

0:39:22.600 --> 0:39:25.480
<v Speaker 1>like more so just friends. Yeah, But I mean, like

0:39:25.560 --> 0:39:27.719
<v Speaker 1>she tells me all of her drama with her. I'm

0:39:27.760 --> 0:39:30.120
<v Speaker 1>kind of like her therapist in a way. Really, Like

0:39:30.160 --> 0:39:32.400
<v Speaker 1>I just kind of listen to her drama and stuff

0:39:32.400 --> 0:39:35.200
<v Speaker 1>and I give her advice. And that's about as far

0:39:35.200 --> 0:39:37.319
<v Speaker 1>as our relationship goes. I mean, it's not been ever

0:39:37.400 --> 0:39:38.080
<v Speaker 1>too personal.

0:39:39.320 --> 0:39:43.920
<v Speaker 2>So you and your mom, so, I mean, goddamn, your

0:39:44.000 --> 0:39:50.719
<v Speaker 2>mom like just makes your life fucking hell for you know,

0:39:51.120 --> 0:39:54.359
<v Speaker 2>two years during this crazy difficult time, she's doing all

0:39:54.400 --> 0:40:00.560
<v Speaker 2>this insane litigation stuff really not being a mom. And

0:40:00.600 --> 0:40:06.640
<v Speaker 2>then later like what what's the deal? So she starts

0:40:06.640 --> 0:40:10.719
<v Speaker 2>like slowly like integrating herself back into like I guess, okay,

0:40:10.800 --> 0:40:14.720
<v Speaker 2>so she leaves, So okay, so you're in the hospital,

0:40:14.800 --> 0:40:17.319
<v Speaker 2>you find out that you're pregnant again, she leaves. You

0:40:17.320 --> 0:40:20.000
<v Speaker 2>don't hear from her much, I guess, except her like

0:40:20.040 --> 0:40:22.960
<v Speaker 2>suing everyone. And then when does she start to come

0:40:23.000 --> 0:40:24.000
<v Speaker 2>back into your life?

0:40:24.040 --> 0:40:29.000
<v Speaker 1>And how well, Like after I got emancipated, she started

0:40:29.280 --> 0:40:32.200
<v Speaker 1>the only contact she had on me was email. So

0:40:32.200 --> 0:40:35.080
<v Speaker 1>she just started emailing me like once a week, just

0:40:35.120 --> 0:40:38.240
<v Speaker 1>giving updates about her life and like asking how I'm doing,

0:40:38.560 --> 0:40:41.600
<v Speaker 1>and I never responded. I would just like look at them,

0:40:41.760 --> 0:40:44.799
<v Speaker 1>how I'd read them, I kind of sigh, and then

0:40:44.800 --> 0:40:48.040
<v Speaker 1>I would just delete them. And that went on for

0:40:49.239 --> 0:40:53.359
<v Speaker 1>probably about three months. And then like whenever we were

0:40:53.360 --> 0:40:55.880
<v Speaker 1>moving in, I still had some stuff at my mom's house,

0:40:55.960 --> 0:40:58.239
<v Speaker 1>so I needed to like go back to like get

0:40:58.280 --> 0:41:01.360
<v Speaker 1>directed myself, like my bed was still there and that

0:41:01.440 --> 0:41:03.239
<v Speaker 1>kind of stuff, and she was gonna let me take it,

0:41:04.600 --> 0:41:06.800
<v Speaker 1>and so all of our context was like between my grandma,

0:41:07.440 --> 0:41:09.040
<v Speaker 1>so like I would just ask my grandma to ask

0:41:09.080 --> 0:41:11.200
<v Speaker 1>her like when I could go and that kind of stuff.

0:41:11.719 --> 0:41:15.520
<v Speaker 1>And then whenever, like I got to her house, we

0:41:15.719 --> 0:41:18.799
<v Speaker 1>just kind of got to talking and it was like

0:41:20.120 --> 0:41:21.799
<v Speaker 1>it's kind of weird to say, but it was like

0:41:22.080 --> 0:41:25.000
<v Speaker 1>you could feel the tension like from the stuff that

0:41:25.160 --> 0:41:27.520
<v Speaker 1>just happened. But it was also kind of like normal

0:41:27.560 --> 0:41:30.120
<v Speaker 1>in a way because my mom's like always kind of

0:41:30.200 --> 0:41:32.920
<v Speaker 1>done me dirty, Like she's kind of always done me wrong,

0:41:33.320 --> 0:41:35.719
<v Speaker 1>So like us being in that situation where like her

0:41:35.880 --> 0:41:38.640
<v Speaker 1>asking for forgiveness and like asking to be left back

0:41:38.640 --> 0:41:41.520
<v Speaker 1>into my life isn't something new, so I'm kind of

0:41:41.560 --> 0:41:43.319
<v Speaker 1>like I guess used to that. I'm like used to

0:41:43.360 --> 0:41:48.399
<v Speaker 1>her asking to come back, and.

0:41:48.360 --> 0:41:55.359
<v Speaker 2>Every end, despite everything, you found the strength to is

0:41:55.360 --> 0:42:00.120
<v Speaker 2>is forgive her the right word? Would you say you've

0:42:00.120 --> 0:42:02.440
<v Speaker 2>forgiven her by letting her back into your life?

0:42:05.160 --> 0:42:07.360
<v Speaker 1>I think I think I have. I think I've forgiven.

0:42:07.520 --> 0:42:11.000
<v Speaker 1>I just haven't forgot. Like it's still it just bawns

0:42:11.040 --> 0:42:16.680
<v Speaker 1>on me sometimes, like especially whenever like we talk about

0:42:16.719 --> 0:42:20.439
<v Speaker 1>like certain topics and stuff like that. But I think,

0:42:20.480 --> 0:42:23.040
<v Speaker 1>for the most part, like I understand, like I understand

0:42:23.080 --> 0:42:25.759
<v Speaker 1>a lot of it is due to like her drugs

0:42:25.840 --> 0:42:29.160
<v Speaker 1>and her alcoholism and how selfish that can make her,

0:42:29.600 --> 0:42:33.640
<v Speaker 1>and how like during that time, the drugs were definitely

0:42:33.680 --> 0:42:37.759
<v Speaker 1>not helping and probably just feeling into her selfishness, and

0:42:37.800 --> 0:42:39.719
<v Speaker 1>so like I guess I kind of recognize that, and

0:42:39.719 --> 0:42:42.960
<v Speaker 1>I guess I kind of not like blame, but like

0:42:45.400 --> 0:42:48.920
<v Speaker 1>m I guess I expect her to do that kind

0:42:48.920 --> 0:42:51.919
<v Speaker 1>of stuff because of the drugs. So like in a way,

0:42:51.960 --> 0:42:54.040
<v Speaker 1>I know it's not her, Like I know it's not

0:42:54.080 --> 0:42:57.640
<v Speaker 1>like my my mom that's doing that, And.

0:42:59.120 --> 0:43:02.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah it does does. I mean, that's a lot of

0:43:03.760 --> 0:43:07.319
<v Speaker 2>so so she's you're kind of like her therapist now,

0:43:07.360 --> 0:43:11.600
<v Speaker 2>like she'll come to you for like advice, and to events.

0:43:13.200 --> 0:43:17.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so, like she's dating this guy who has the

0:43:17.160 --> 0:43:22.319
<v Speaker 1>same name as her ex, and so like whenever they

0:43:22.360 --> 0:43:24.600
<v Speaker 1>first started dating, she like would come to me and

0:43:24.640 --> 0:43:26.960
<v Speaker 1>she'd be like do I tell him? Do I not

0:43:27.080 --> 0:43:31.239
<v Speaker 1>tell him? And then like she just like there's like

0:43:31.360 --> 0:43:33.440
<v Speaker 1>I definitely have boundaries with her, but she has no

0:43:33.520 --> 0:43:36.200
<v Speaker 1>boundaries with me. Like any topic in her life is

0:43:36.280 --> 0:43:39.719
<v Speaker 1>like completely okay to talk about with me. So like

0:43:40.239 --> 0:43:42.080
<v Speaker 1>she's like talking to me about like their like their

0:43:42.120 --> 0:43:44.560
<v Speaker 1>intimacy like compared to her ex and that kind of stuff,

0:43:44.560 --> 0:43:47.560
<v Speaker 1>and asking like my opinion on that, or like asking

0:43:47.600 --> 0:43:49.160
<v Speaker 1>like if she should text them or if she should

0:43:49.200 --> 0:43:49.959
<v Speaker 1>not text them.

0:43:50.360 --> 0:43:54.120
<v Speaker 2>Really? Wow, man, Yeah, your mom's a doozy.

0:43:56.160 --> 0:43:57.680
<v Speaker 1>Is She's something that's for sure?

0:43:58.320 --> 0:44:00.440
<v Speaker 2>And uh, I mean, how do you feel, like do

0:44:00.520 --> 0:44:06.800
<v Speaker 2>you being in this uh after this whole entire crazy saga,

0:44:06.880 --> 0:44:09.200
<v Speaker 2>I mean, how do you how do you feel about

0:44:09.200 --> 0:44:11.360
<v Speaker 2>being in this position with her?

0:44:12.239 --> 0:44:17.400
<v Speaker 1>Oh? I mean, honestly, I think I'm just relieved because

0:44:17.480 --> 0:44:20.560
<v Speaker 1>the situation could have gone a lot worse. Like I

0:44:20.600 --> 0:44:22.360
<v Speaker 1>mean I could have two babies right now, or I

0:44:22.360 --> 0:44:24.880
<v Speaker 1>can have a baby and see at college and stuff

0:44:24.880 --> 0:44:27.040
<v Speaker 1>like that, And so I think because things worked out

0:44:27.120 --> 0:44:29.839
<v Speaker 1>in my favor the way I wanted them to. Gives

0:44:29.880 --> 0:44:31.600
<v Speaker 1>me a lot of room to be gracious, like I'm

0:44:31.640 --> 0:44:34.160
<v Speaker 1>not gonna have a forever child, reminding me of what

0:44:34.280 --> 0:44:36.600
<v Speaker 1>my mom tried to do with me, Like I don't

0:44:36.640 --> 0:44:39.640
<v Speaker 1>have that forever scar unless like I really like think

0:44:39.680 --> 0:44:40.160
<v Speaker 1>about it.

0:44:40.560 --> 0:44:45.160
<v Speaker 2>M hm m m yeah, yeah, because I mean, look, man,

0:44:45.239 --> 0:44:47.239
<v Speaker 2>right now, you know, being twenty and living in this

0:44:47.320 --> 0:44:49.880
<v Speaker 2>apartment and you're working, going to school, you're doing all

0:44:49.920 --> 0:44:52.000
<v Speaker 2>these things. I mean you really, I mean, you could

0:44:52.040 --> 0:44:53.359
<v Speaker 2>do it with if you had a kid, but it'd

0:44:53.400 --> 0:44:58.120
<v Speaker 2>be a thousand fucking times harder, and then you know,

0:44:58.160 --> 0:45:01.000
<v Speaker 2>you'd build resentment, you'd build further that meant for your mom,

0:45:01.040 --> 0:45:03.120
<v Speaker 2>and that might lead into resentment for the kid, and

0:45:03.120 --> 0:45:06.080
<v Speaker 2>it would just have been a been a fucking you

0:45:06.080 --> 0:45:06.840
<v Speaker 2>know disaster.

0:45:08.640 --> 0:45:10.759
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I was never a healthy situation to start with.

0:45:13.239 --> 0:45:15.160
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna just real quick, I'm gonna ask if the

0:45:15.280 --> 0:45:18.879
<v Speaker 2>chat has any questions for you, because this has been

0:45:18.880 --> 0:45:20.560
<v Speaker 2>a by the way, I want to thank you. I'll

0:45:20.640 --> 0:45:23.560
<v Speaker 2>let the chat put some questions and I'll pick some

0:45:23.640 --> 0:45:24.960
<v Speaker 2>questions from the chat, but I want I want to

0:45:24.960 --> 0:45:27.680
<v Speaker 2>thank you for talking to us about this. This whole

0:45:27.760 --> 0:45:33.080
<v Speaker 2>crazy story. I hope it was beneficial or helpful to

0:45:33.120 --> 0:45:36.560
<v Speaker 2>you to to talk through. I mean, it's it's totally wild,

0:45:36.640 --> 0:45:39.399
<v Speaker 2>and I have I have tons of respect for you

0:45:39.520 --> 0:45:44.080
<v Speaker 2>for for a lot of things. For you know, your

0:45:44.280 --> 0:45:48.040
<v Speaker 2>your ability to continue to have a relationship with your

0:45:48.080 --> 0:45:52.560
<v Speaker 2>mom withstanding all of these, uhwithstanding this whole saga, and

0:45:52.640 --> 0:45:55.799
<v Speaker 2>for your ability to stay strong throughout it all and

0:45:55.920 --> 0:45:59.680
<v Speaker 2>to kind of be able to emerge, you know, with

0:45:59.760 --> 0:46:01.719
<v Speaker 2>a with a good, happy life on the other end

0:46:01.719 --> 0:46:02.000
<v Speaker 2>of it.

0:46:04.520 --> 0:46:04.920
<v Speaker 1>Thank you.

0:46:05.719 --> 0:46:09.000
<v Speaker 2>Let's see here, someone wants to know if you have

0:46:09.200 --> 0:46:12.480
<v Speaker 2>advice for any if you have advice for women in

0:46:12.560 --> 0:46:16.400
<v Speaker 2>similar scenarios.

0:46:16.920 --> 0:46:19.759
<v Speaker 1>Go with your good feeling, because I have never regretted

0:46:20.480 --> 0:46:26.440
<v Speaker 1>my choices ever in the slightest, not one bit. It's

0:46:26.480 --> 0:46:30.560
<v Speaker 1>a really hard decision, and I completely empathize with you,

0:46:31.040 --> 0:46:33.560
<v Speaker 1>but just always do what's best for you, no matter

0:46:33.600 --> 0:46:35.719
<v Speaker 1>what anybody thinks, because at the end of the day,

0:46:35.800 --> 0:46:37.080
<v Speaker 1>you got to live with a choice.

0:46:37.880 --> 0:46:40.640
<v Speaker 2>Someone asked, do you ever want a kid.

0:46:43.800 --> 0:46:47.360
<v Speaker 1>To be determined? After being really sick that first time?

0:46:48.120 --> 0:46:51.160
<v Speaker 1>New research has found out that it's actually genetic, So

0:46:51.280 --> 0:46:55.720
<v Speaker 1>if I ever do become pregnant again, it might happen again,

0:46:55.800 --> 0:46:58.440
<v Speaker 1>and I don't know if that's something that I'm willing

0:46:58.480 --> 0:47:01.320
<v Speaker 1>to like put my life at risk, and adoption is

0:47:01.320 --> 0:47:04.080
<v Speaker 1>always a good option. I think if I ever want

0:47:04.080 --> 0:47:06.360
<v Speaker 1>a child in my life, but I don't have, I

0:47:06.400 --> 0:47:09.840
<v Speaker 1>have really big aspirations to travel and to live my

0:47:09.960 --> 0:47:12.200
<v Speaker 1>life to the extent, and if a child fits in there,

0:47:12.680 --> 0:47:14.600
<v Speaker 1>then a child fits in. But if not, I don't

0:47:14.600 --> 0:47:15.839
<v Speaker 1>have any desire right now.

0:47:16.800 --> 0:47:19.800
<v Speaker 2>Someone said, what kept you going when it looked dire?

0:47:24.120 --> 0:47:26.440
<v Speaker 1>My boyfriend was a really big help. He was a

0:47:26.520 --> 0:47:30.120
<v Speaker 1>really big support to lean on and to just hear

0:47:30.200 --> 0:47:32.520
<v Speaker 1>me vent over and over about my mom and how

0:47:32.680 --> 0:47:37.120
<v Speaker 1>I can believe it. We'd helped a lot. My anxiety

0:47:37.200 --> 0:47:41.440
<v Speaker 1>was really bad, like my sickness was really bad, and

0:47:41.760 --> 0:47:45.319
<v Speaker 1>just thinking about my future. Honestly, I've always been a

0:47:45.320 --> 0:47:47.200
<v Speaker 1>big dreamer. That kind of always helped me. When I

0:47:47.280 --> 0:47:49.560
<v Speaker 1>was younger and my mom was using and I was scared,

0:47:50.080 --> 0:47:52.839
<v Speaker 1>so I just kept dreaming of like my dream vacations

0:47:52.840 --> 0:47:54.520
<v Speaker 1>and I would just plan them out in my head

0:47:54.560 --> 0:47:57.080
<v Speaker 1>whenever I got over anxious, and that like always helped

0:47:57.080 --> 0:47:58.920
<v Speaker 1>calm me down because I always had something to look

0:47:58.960 --> 0:48:01.960
<v Speaker 1>forward to and all look about. Uh.

0:48:02.600 --> 0:48:06.040
<v Speaker 2>Someone asked which fast food joint you think has the

0:48:06.080 --> 0:48:08.359
<v Speaker 2>best French fries?

0:48:09.280 --> 0:48:17.120
<v Speaker 1>Ooh ooh m McDonald's when they're crispy.

0:48:17.200 --> 0:48:21.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I've been Actually, i've been into Burger King recently.

0:48:22.680 --> 0:48:25.040
<v Speaker 2>I was at a Burger King at the airport and

0:48:25.080 --> 0:48:26.759
<v Speaker 2>they have all these like breakfast options. It was like

0:48:26.840 --> 0:48:29.680
<v Speaker 2>seven in the morning and they have all these breakfast options,

0:48:29.840 --> 0:48:32.759
<v Speaker 2>but at the very bottom it's it's a tab and

0:48:32.800 --> 0:48:35.759
<v Speaker 2>it literally says on the tablet, do you want a

0:48:35.840 --> 0:48:37.719
<v Speaker 2>whopper for breakfast? And I was like, I kind of

0:48:37.760 --> 0:48:40.080
<v Speaker 2>do when So I had a whopper and fries at

0:48:40.120 --> 0:48:42.319
<v Speaker 2>seven in the morning. It was pretty good. I don't

0:48:42.360 --> 0:48:46.480
<v Speaker 2>know why I threw that in there, but let's see

0:48:46.520 --> 0:48:49.239
<v Speaker 2>if there's a Oh okay, I actually this is the

0:48:49.320 --> 0:48:51.000
<v Speaker 2>last one, and I'm curious about this. Where do you

0:48:51.000 --> 0:48:52.799
<v Speaker 2>want to go? You said you want to travel a lot.

0:48:53.080 --> 0:48:54.680
<v Speaker 2>What's your dream destination?

0:48:56.680 --> 0:49:07.120
<v Speaker 1>Oh? My dream is probably the man that's hard, probably Italy.

0:49:07.960 --> 0:49:11.640
<v Speaker 1>I really like Italian culture or like Italian food too.

0:49:12.040 --> 0:49:14.239
<v Speaker 1>But I have a trip plan in Scotland and Ireland

0:49:14.480 --> 0:49:17.480
<v Speaker 1>next summer, right after the finals of my junior year,

0:49:18.360 --> 0:49:19.799
<v Speaker 1>so I'm really excited for that.

0:49:21.120 --> 0:49:26.040
<v Speaker 2>What's your name? Again, Ariana, Ariana, Well, Ariana, look, I'll

0:49:26.040 --> 0:49:30.359
<v Speaker 2>say it again. I mean, dude, like going through all

0:49:30.400 --> 0:49:34.120
<v Speaker 2>this shit, having you know, especially without your dad and

0:49:34.160 --> 0:49:39.680
<v Speaker 2>with your mom being crazy, and it's just I'm inspired

0:49:39.719 --> 0:49:41.520
<v Speaker 2>by how you were able to deal with all this

0:49:41.560 --> 0:49:44.040
<v Speaker 2>shit and then still come back on top and you're

0:49:44.080 --> 0:49:46.040
<v Speaker 2>out here living your best life and you're making it

0:49:46.080 --> 0:49:50.360
<v Speaker 2>work and you seem like you're happy, and you know,

0:49:50.760 --> 0:49:52.600
<v Speaker 2>congrats to you on all that stuff.

0:49:54.120 --> 0:49:54.719
<v Speaker 1>Thanks Gak.

0:49:57.400 --> 0:49:59.759
<v Speaker 2>Well, is there anything else that you want to say

0:49:59.800 --> 0:50:02.080
<v Speaker 2>to the people of the computer or about the story,

0:50:02.160 --> 0:50:04.839
<v Speaker 2>or about French fries or anything at all before we go?

0:50:10.440 --> 0:50:14.680
<v Speaker 1>Make good choices. If you don't make good choices, you

0:50:14.719 --> 0:50:18.560
<v Speaker 1>can always change them.

0:50:18.760 --> 0:50:21.560
<v Speaker 2>Well, take care, Arianna, and thank you for calling and

0:50:21.600 --> 0:50:22.320
<v Speaker 2>sharing your story.

0:50:23.520 --> 0:50:27.279
<v Speaker 1>Thanks gag later, dude later.

0:50:28.760 --> 0:50:32.839
<v Speaker 2>That's crazy, man. I mean, I you know, I'm I'm

0:50:32.960 --> 0:50:38.480
<v Speaker 2>very lucky I have I have supportive, supportive parents because

0:50:38.800 --> 0:50:43.239
<v Speaker 2>you know, I don't know, it's one thing, like it's

0:50:43.239 --> 0:50:45.759
<v Speaker 2>one thing like being a like if you're gonna be

0:50:46.640 --> 0:50:51.319
<v Speaker 2>like a piece of shit in your own universe, right

0:50:51.480 --> 0:50:56.239
<v Speaker 2>like self destructive and you know, make bad choices like

0:50:56.360 --> 0:51:01.520
<v Speaker 2>I get it, you know, I get it, But to

0:51:01.719 --> 0:51:06.280
<v Speaker 2>do all of that as like a as like an attack

0:51:06.480 --> 0:51:14.000
<v Speaker 2>on your own child. This is fucked up. So whatever

0:51:14.160 --> 0:51:16.719
<v Speaker 2>I mean. I also, I really do, I really have

0:51:16.760 --> 0:51:22.720
<v Speaker 2>a deep respect for Arianna, Like, after all that man,

0:51:22.960 --> 0:51:28.440
<v Speaker 2>after all that, she still is will she's willing to

0:51:28.719 --> 0:51:32.040
<v Speaker 2>hang out with her mom and give her boy advice.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean that takes a lot of that kind of forgiveness.

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<v Speaker 2>It takes a lot of character, it really does to

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<v Speaker 2>do all that, to like to take all that like

0:51:45.719 --> 0:51:51.200
<v Speaker 2>evil stuff her mom was doing and then recognize that

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<v Speaker 2>beneath all of that is a woman who is struggling

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<v Speaker 2>with her addiction and her you know, drug abuse and

0:52:06.360 --> 0:52:12.879
<v Speaker 2>alcoholism and problems with her own relationships and of course

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<v Speaker 2>and look, she could look at all that and be like,

0:52:15.600 --> 0:52:17.200
<v Speaker 2>I don't give a fuck. I'm not responsible for that.

0:52:17.239 --> 0:52:19.719
<v Speaker 2>You're a grown woman. You can handle it. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>she can do that if she wanted to do. But

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<v Speaker 2>this is not what she did. She recognized it and

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<v Speaker 2>she went, you know what, I'll be your girly, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>send tell me about this guy. And I really have

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<v Speaker 2>a deep respect for that. It reminds me of I've

0:52:37.520 --> 0:52:40.880
<v Speaker 2>talked about this before. I've talked about fucking toy story

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<v Speaker 2>Toy Story three. It reminds me of that scene in

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<v Speaker 2>Toy Story three where lots of hugging where they fucking uh,

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<v Speaker 2>lots of hugging Bear. He had just fucked over all

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<v Speaker 2>of the toys and he was just fucking them over.

0:52:54.239 --> 0:52:57.880
<v Speaker 2>He was scheming hard to fuck them over, and he does,

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<v Speaker 2>and he sends them all onto the track. But then

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<v Speaker 2>he also gets sent into the trash and all the

0:53:03.719 --> 0:53:09.279
<v Speaker 2>toys are like grabbing metal stuff to like avoid the incinerator.

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<v Speaker 2>You guys know what I'm talking about. And then they're

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<v Speaker 2>about to like get over the incinerator when lots of

0:53:15.360 --> 0:53:17.240
<v Speaker 2>hugging Bear is like, help me. I'm stuck. I'm stumped

0:53:17.239 --> 0:53:19.920
<v Speaker 2>down here. I'm stuck. I need help, and do you

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<v Speaker 2>know and ever and everyone's like, come on, Woody, we

0:53:21.920 --> 0:53:23.839
<v Speaker 2>gotta go fucking leave him. He's a piece of shit.

0:53:23.920 --> 0:53:26.520
<v Speaker 2>Leave him. And then what does Woody do? It makes

0:53:26.520 --> 0:53:28.799
<v Speaker 2>me cry to think about it every time. What does

0:53:28.840 --> 0:53:32.480
<v Speaker 2>Woody do? Because he's Woody and he has this like

0:53:34.239 --> 0:53:40.160
<v Speaker 2>immaculate character to him, he fucking goes down there and

0:53:40.200 --> 0:53:45.280
<v Speaker 2>he saves lots of hugging Bear from the incinerator because

0:53:45.280 --> 0:53:47.680
<v Speaker 2>that's the kind of guy he is. And then do

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<v Speaker 2>you know what lots of huggin Bear does. He fucks

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<v Speaker 2>them over again. It's insane, It's insane. It's I think

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<v Speaker 2>about this movie all the time. Anyway, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>this just reminded me of that. Thank you for sharing

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<v Speaker 2>your story, Arianna. Rep Cat goes on the line taking

0:54:06.600 --> 0:54:09.879
<v Speaker 2>your phone calls every night. The repeak Can goes doing

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<v Speaker 2>his eye who's teaching you to a hout in the

0:54:11.840 --> 0:54:15.200
<v Speaker 2>middle of your life, but he's not really an expert.