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Speaker 1: Hello, Hi.

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Speaker 2: What's your name, Arianna? What's going on, Ariana? How's life?

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Speaker 1: You know it's lifing?

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Speaker 2: I feel that brother. Well, what do you want to

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Speaker 2: talk about today?

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Speaker 1: Okay, Well, this happened like two and a half years ago,

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Speaker 1: but basically, in the span of like one year, I

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Speaker 1: got two abortions, I got kicked out of my house,

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Speaker 1: and I got emancipated.

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Speaker 2: This this was when you were eighteen.

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Speaker 1: I was seventeen. Actually I had just hearned I had

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Speaker 1: just turned steen when it all started.

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Speaker 2: How you well, I guess, uh. I mean, before we

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Speaker 2: get into anything, how you doing now? Are you chilling?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? I'm actually great now. I'm in college. I've been

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Speaker 1: living on my own since then. I'm still with my

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Speaker 1: boyfriend who had all happened with.

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Speaker 2: So I mean, if you want to get into it,

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Speaker 2: what happened?

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Speaker 1: Okay, So, okay, let me just preface this with some backstory.

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Speaker 1: My dad is like not really in my life, and

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Speaker 1: like my mom is like a really bad opioid addict

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Speaker 1: and alcoholic, and so all of this happened like a

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Speaker 1: year after COVID happened. So it was like February twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty one, and so me and My boyfriend had been

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Speaker 1: together for it had almost been a year, and on

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Speaker 1: his seventeenth birthday, I found out I was pregnant, and

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Speaker 1: so I like internally knew what I was going to do,

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Speaker 1: like I always knew if that ever happened to me,

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Speaker 1: like what my decision was, and like luckily Rogie Wade

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Speaker 1: wasn't overturned or anything, so I knew, like I had options,

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Speaker 1: and my boys then like fully supported me. He was like,

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Speaker 1: if you want to have it, I'm down to do that.

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Speaker 1: If you don't, I'm down to do that. So he

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Speaker 1: was like very very supportive.

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Speaker 2: So you were sixteen and he was so So you

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Speaker 2: were sixteen and he was seventeen.

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Speaker 1: I had just turned sixteen. I had just turned seventeen

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Speaker 1: the week before, so like technically I was sixteen when

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Speaker 1: if I got pregnant whenever that happened in like January December,

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Speaker 1: and then I just turned seventeen when I found out.

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Speaker 2: Okay, And so your boyfriend was supportive and everyone and

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Speaker 2: everything was all aligned.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like me and him were good. I hadn't told

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Speaker 1: my mom yet and it was and it's actually the

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Speaker 1: craziest story how she found out I was on the

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Speaker 1: phone with one of my friends, and she was at

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Speaker 1: the place where we worked at and she had me

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Speaker 1: on speakerphone, and someone else we worked with overheard it

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Speaker 1: and they knew a friend of my family, so like

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Speaker 1: it got around. Word kind of got around back to

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Speaker 1: my mom and she ended up confronting me about it.

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Speaker 2: What did that confrontation look like?

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Speaker 1: Honestly, it wasn't that bad. It was you know, I

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Speaker 1: heard this, Is it true? I was like yeah. She

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Speaker 1: was like, well, like, do you know how far along

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Speaker 1: you are? I was like maybe eight weeks or something

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Speaker 1: like that, and she was like, well, do you know

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Speaker 1: what you want to do? I was like, yeah, like

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Speaker 1: I don't want to, like I don't want to have it,

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Speaker 1: like I want to get the procedure done. And she

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Speaker 1: was like okay, well, you know I fully support you

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Speaker 1: this and that. And then I'd like already done some

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Speaker 1: research on it, and she was like, you know, I'll

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Speaker 1: drive you to Texas or Mississippi it's necessary. You know,

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Speaker 1: we'll do whatever we have to do. I was like,

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Speaker 1: oh my god, thank you. Like my mom hadn't, like

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Speaker 1: it's never really been like very supportive in my life,

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Speaker 1: because she's always been kind of absent or like kind

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Speaker 1: like cool, like yes, absolutely, like thank you, Like I'll

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Speaker 1: start like calls on Monday, because it's like on a weekend.

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Speaker 1: And then a week later she basically cornered me in

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Speaker 1: and it was like two am, and she was like,

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Speaker 1: you're having this baby, no matter what you think. I'm

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Speaker 1: the adult. I like, I have to sign in order

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Speaker 1: because in my state, at least at the time, you

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Speaker 1: you couldn't sign off if you were a minor. And

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Speaker 1: since my dad's not really in my life, she knew

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Speaker 1: that wasn't an option. So she was like, you're having

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Speaker 1: it because I'm saying it, and I still to this

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Speaker 1: day do not know what caused that change. So she.

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Speaker 2: So she went from she found out. She was totally supportive.

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Speaker 2: She was like, I'll drive you to another state if

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Speaker 2: I have to, And then she just comes into your

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it was a very common occurrence for her

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Speaker 1: to like barge in my room at two am just

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Speaker 1: for like random things or not. But it was like,

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Speaker 1: it was absolutely crazy to me because like we hadn't

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Speaker 1: talked about it since then, Like I was just like

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Speaker 1: trying to figure out what would be the best route

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Speaker 1: any of the planning. And then all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: it was just you're having this baby. It's what I say,

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Speaker 2: That's fucking wild.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. And so in my in my state, at least

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Speaker 1: at the time, there was something called, oh I forgot

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Speaker 1: the name, but it was something it was a like

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Speaker 1: a bypass law, and it was if you went to

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Speaker 1: court and a judge determined that you were mature enough

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Speaker 1: to have like an abortion, they'll grant you from mission

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Speaker 1: from the court to get an abortion if you're a minor.

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Speaker 2: Wait, so you go in front of a court and

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Speaker 2: the court judges if you're mature enough to have an abortion?

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Speaker 1: Crazy? What? What?

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Speaker 2: What's the first of all? That's insane? Because what like

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Speaker 2: that's insane because what are they gonna do? Be like,

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Speaker 2: you know what, you're not mature enough to have an abortion?

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Speaker 2: But I guess how can you be How can you

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Speaker 2: not be mature enough to have an abortion but then

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Speaker 2: be mature enough to have a baby.

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Speaker 1: That was that was my debacle. And I had to

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Speaker 1: like get in contact with the it was like a

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Speaker 1: pro bono agency or like online website. Well I'll just

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Speaker 1: say my state. I'm from Louisiana and so online they

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Speaker 1: have these like volunteer lawyers who will like represent you

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Speaker 1: for free, talk you through the procedure, like how the

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Speaker 2: So did you have So is that what ended up happening?

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Speaker 2: You went in front of a judge and like had

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Well I was really sick. I had like something

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Speaker 1: It's like a really long name. But I have like

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Speaker 1: perpetual like morning sickness like all the time. Like I

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Speaker 1: it was really hard to go around my mom to

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Speaker 1: So so it took me like a couple of weeks

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Speaker 2: So okay, I actually I have more questions about this

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Speaker 2: whole process, but before we do that, just like so

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Speaker 2: your mom she was supportive and then she was she

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Speaker 2: then like I I guess did she was she going

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Speaker 2: Did she kind of change and stay with her position?

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Speaker 2: Like what was what was her deal?

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Speaker 1: After that initial first flip flop, she like stayed her

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Speaker 1: And it like it. The whenever we would argue about it,

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Speaker 1: the conversations always got a lot more aggressive whenever she

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Speaker 1: like her whole logic or standpoint was she's my mom,

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Speaker 2: So how did you get around her? So you you

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Speaker 2: found this lawyer that was helping you out that. So

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Speaker 2: tell me, I mean, what the what did the kind

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Speaker 2: of procedure look like? Not the not the medical procedure,

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Speaker 1: So basically my lawyer like filled out all the legal

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Speaker 1: I'm okay about it. The judges asked me a series

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Speaker 1: like just trying to get to know me. And then

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Speaker 1: going to make your life better than having this baby?

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Speaker 1: And kind of like questions like that, and then like

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Speaker 1: once I inswered those, she was kind of like, Okay, well,

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Speaker 1: why do you want an abortion set up? Like putting it

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Speaker 1: whenever I kind of went into the whole like I'm

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Speaker 1: so sick I've had to like drop out of high school,

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Speaker 1: drive for college. Yeah, and so like I just kind

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Speaker 1: of pleaded my case and like told them about like

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Speaker 1: like granting me access.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, man, that's really really fucking crazy that

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Speaker 2: they're like, it's just it's just such a wild thing

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Speaker 2: to evaluate someone for to be like, why do you

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Speaker 2: think it would be better to have an abortion versus

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Speaker 2: like having a whole fucking ass baby, Like you know,

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's just that's just wild. So I mean,

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Speaker 2: was it how shortly after that that proceeding did they

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Speaker 2: did you get like the email or whatever where they

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Speaker 2: granted you the the uh permission?

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Speaker 1: I got it immediately. They like it's like a actual

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Speaker 1: like core document that you have to like bring to

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Speaker 2: And how are you feeling with with your mom? Is

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Speaker 2: And so you get pregnant again, Yeah, and you're on

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Speaker 2: on birth control twice? Yeah? Is that like a statistical anomaly?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? My like my OV was like I, I can't

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Speaker 2: Dude, that's crazy. What what is the I mean, what's what?

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Speaker 1: Maybe like one out of one hundred to five hundred thousand, maybe, man,

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Speaker 2: You know, if only you only you gotta if only

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Speaker 2: you gotta scratch off instead of a baby, I know, right.

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Speaker 1: If only I was legal enough so it could be

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Speaker 2: So I mean, tell me, man, what what what happened?

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Speaker 2: What happens the second go round?

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Speaker 1: Okay, so before the second time, my mom ended up

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Speaker 2: Your mom swore the state. Your mom sued the state

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Speaker 2: and one wait, okay, hold on, this is this is

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Speaker 1: if you wanted, oh it's called judicial bypass. If you

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00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:07,160
Speaker 1: want a judicial bypass, you had to now go in

439
00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:10,320
Speaker 1: court in your parish instead of the parish that the

440
00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:13,040
Speaker 1: clinic was in, which is why I was doing online

441
00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:14,639
Speaker 1: zoom because I was meeting with a judge two and

442
00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:17,840
Speaker 1: a half hours away. So now if you wanted that,

443
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:19,960
Speaker 1: you had to do it in your parish. And so

444
00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:24,040
Speaker 1: Louisiana has like I don't know, maybe like sixty something parishes,

445
00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:27,000
Speaker 1: only three of them ever saw these type of cases.

446
00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:30,320
Speaker 1: So by the time my second one rolls around, I

447
00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:34,480
Speaker 1: have to be the guinea pig of my parish's judicial

448
00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:37,359
Speaker 1: system and testing whether or not they're going to allow

449
00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:39,879
Speaker 1: me this because it's never happened before. Because the law

450
00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:40,679
Speaker 1: had just changed.

451
00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:43,560
Speaker 2: All right, I have a stupid all right, we got

452
00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:45,879
Speaker 2: We'll get into this, but I have a stupid question.

453
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:48,560
Speaker 1: First, there's no stupid questions.

454
00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:53,680
Speaker 2: What all right? What is a parish?

455
00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:56,719
Speaker 1: Okay? A parish is like a county. It's like Louisiana's

456
00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:57,560
Speaker 1: version of county.

457
00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:01,240
Speaker 2: Ah, okay, all right, thought it was like a church.

458
00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:02,639
Speaker 2: I don't know why I thought it was a church.

459
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:03,199
Speaker 1: You know what.

460
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:04,600
Speaker 2: I thought it was a church because there's like a

461
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:09,359
Speaker 2: left you know, Left for Dead. No, this is a

462
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:12,159
Speaker 2: video game. It's called Left for Dead. It's in the

463
00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:16,600
Speaker 2: in Left for Dead too, there's a fucking uh map

464
00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:19,320
Speaker 2: called and has the word perish in it, and it

465
00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:24,080
Speaker 2: takes place in a church. Whatever. Okay? So okay, So

466
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:28,760
Speaker 2: your mom fucking sues, the state wins changes the laws

467
00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:31,600
Speaker 2: so that you can't go to a different county to

468
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:34,479
Speaker 2: get your judicial bypass, And so now you get pregnant

469
00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:38,920
Speaker 2: a second time, uh one in one hundred thousand chants,

470
00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:43,639
Speaker 2: and now you have to be the first person to

471
00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:49,119
Speaker 2: uh get your judicial bypass exclusively in the county that

472
00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:49,919
Speaker 2: you are local to.

473
00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:56,840
Speaker 1: Yes, And my mother knew about the second one because

474
00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:58,480
Speaker 1: she came to the hospital with me because I thought

475
00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:02,440
Speaker 1: I was just sick and I ended up testing positive

476
00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:04,440
Speaker 1: And so she found out at the exact same time

477
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:04,840
Speaker 1: as me.

478
00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:09,840
Speaker 2: Your mom, Yeah, and what happened then.

479
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:15,119
Speaker 1: She told like I told her I wasn't gonna have it,

480
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:18,000
Speaker 1: and she said, well, don't bother coming back to the

481
00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:21,040
Speaker 1: house and got up, got out of the hospital room

482
00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 1: and left me.

483
00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:26,639
Speaker 2: Was that the last time you saw her?

484
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:34,199
Speaker 1: No? Ironically, she got up left, I had to like

485
00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:36,320
Speaker 1: call my boyfriend to come pick me up. I like

486
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:41,560
Speaker 1: got in contact with those people again, and like we

487
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:49,040
Speaker 1: started the process to like do it in my county.

488
00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:50,399
Speaker 2: And my whole thing all over again.

489
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:56,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, and my mom ended up suing me and the state. Well,

490
00:26:56,960 --> 00:27:00,679
Speaker 1: she sued everybody. So she sued me, She sues the

491
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:04,080
Speaker 1: attorney general, she sees the governor, and she sues the

492
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 1: like legislative branch.

493
00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:07,920
Speaker 2: Did she win?

494
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,639
Speaker 1: No, because so ironic, Oh my god, everything about this

495
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:15,680
Speaker 1: story is ironic. But ironic enough. My court date ended

496
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:23,439
Speaker 1: up being one day before hers. So I went in

497
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 1: front of this old white man and I'm like this

498
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:31,760
Speaker 1: five six white like blonde white girl, and I'm just like,

499
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:36,879
Speaker 1: please please have this uh, And he's like he asks

500
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:39,080
Speaker 1: me kind of like the same series of questions, although

501
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 1: he's just as confused as pretty much everyone else because

502
00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:46,360
Speaker 1: he has no idea like what the marker for maturity

503
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:49,119
Speaker 1: is in this case, because he's never seen a case

504
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 1: like this.

505
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 2: Oh so this is this is this county's first time

506
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:56,159
Speaker 2: even doing these kind of like procedures.

507
00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 1: I'm the very first one. Yeah.

508
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:03,560
Speaker 2: Interesting, okay, And so you.

509
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:05,320
Speaker 1: Know, he asks me kind of like the same series

510
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 1: of questions like what's your life, Like, what's your dreams

511
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 1: with your goals and your aspirations? Is the father still involved?

512
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 1: Does he support you? Like what's your family situation like?

513
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 1: And like, so at this point I was able to

514
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:21,200
Speaker 1: tell him like, yeah, I'm homeless, like I got picked

515
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 1: out of my house, Like it's I barely have enough

516
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 1: money to pay for this procedure and these coordinarings by itself,

517
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 1: let alone like actually having a baby. And so I

518
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:36,720
Speaker 1: think those kind of like surrealish things I think really

519
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:40,440
Speaker 1: helped my side, and he ended up allowing me, which

520
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 1: I was very surprised about. I thought we were going

521
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 1: to have to appeal because my lawyer had prepared me

522
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 1: like in face of rejection, like you know, like don't cry,

523
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 1: just like just breathe, like, we'll go to appeals like

524
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 1: right after this. We'll be okay.

525
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 2: And it different lawyer from last.

526
00:28:56,640 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 1: Time, right, yeah, this is this is this one like

527
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 1: kind of lived in my area. He like was associated

528
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:06,280
Speaker 1: with the group, but he lived. But he had to

529
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 1: like physically be present with me this time.

530
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 2: And so now you're you're not on zoom anymore. This

531
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 2: time you're here in a place.

532
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 1: No, I'm like in my in my local.

533
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 2: Courthouse, okay, And so what happens?

534
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 1: And so my mom is basically like suing for a

535
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 1: temporary restraining order on like any court proceeding dealing with me.

536
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 1: And so.

537
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 2: Sorry dinner, rup, but she's okay, so you said, she okay,

538
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 2: So she's suing like five differ people. She's fucking sue

539
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:43,600
Speaker 2: in the court house. She's suing, you said, she sued you?

540
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,959
Speaker 2: How did what the fuck? What is what's her grounds

541
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 2: for a lawsuit against you?

542
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 1: So I'm not too sure what the like legal jargon

543
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 1: of it was. But she had teamed up with the

544
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 1: lawyer like the same group of pro life lawyers and

545
00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:04,280
Speaker 1: then another lawyer from Californi and basically their their whole

546
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:10,640
Speaker 1: legal stance was to stop me from retaining this judicial bypass,

547
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 1: so that then their court proceedings against the state for

548
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 1: allowing something something along the lines of stopping me from

549
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:26,960
Speaker 1: getting the judicial bypass to then allow their court proceedings

550
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:29,120
Speaker 1: to go on and duke out whether or not this

551
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 1: is legal or not or whether.

552
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:34,760
Speaker 2: Oh so they okay, So they their whole thing was

553
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:38,040
Speaker 2: they want to stop your procedure so that they can

554
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:41,560
Speaker 2: hope to win again, to get you to not be

555
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:47,240
Speaker 2: able to get your judicial bypass. Yes, that's fucking, that's

556
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:47,959
Speaker 2: pretty fucked.

557
00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 1: And she won, but it was won. It was one

558
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 1: day too wait, because their court day was after mine.

559
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 1: I had already been granted it. So I had already

560
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:01,520
Speaker 1: gone to already gone to the clinic, like cause the

561
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 1: day that my court hearing was, I had an appointment

562
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:08,480
Speaker 1: at like at the clinic again, and so I was

563
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 1: able to Right after I left the courthouse, I went

564
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:14,960
Speaker 1: straight there and then I started the medication. And once

565
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 1: you start the medication, and after it's been so long,

566
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 1: it can't stop. So by time twenty four hours later

567
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 1: and it was their court hearing, I was already past

568
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 1: the point where there was no salvation.

569
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 2: Dude, So all right, so you get your judicial bypass

570
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 2: granted by this local parish and then like a day after,

571
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 2: your mom wins her court case to prevent anyone from

572
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 2: being able to get judicial bypass.

573
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 1: Yes, anyone in the entire state.

574
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 2: Really mm hmm, that's fucking crazy man. Wow.

575
00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,400
Speaker 1: And then my like so at this time, like my

576
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 1: mom is not letting me live with her, like I

577
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 1: am fan barred all of the above, and so my boyfriend,

578
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 1: I'm like kind of living with my boyfriend and his aunt,

579
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 1: and his aunt ends up kicking me out too. And

580
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 1: it's she really doesn't like me, Like she understood our

581
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 1: circumstances and like she wants the best for her like

582
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:26,120
Speaker 1: her nephew, but she really doesn't like me. We've just

583
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 1: never gotten along. It's something personal, I don't think. But

584
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 1: it had to do with like smoking weed and like

585
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:31,800
Speaker 1: that kind of thing.

586
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 2: Is she also like a crazy religious person.

587
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 1: No, she's actually really cool. That was that was the

588
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 1: weird thing about it. Is like she lets, like her

589
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 1: son and like her nephew, smoke, but like whenever it

590
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 1: came to me, like she thought I was like a

591
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 1: bad influence.

592
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 2: So now in the state of Louisiana, know like, if

593
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 2: you're sixteen and you get pregnant, you cannot and your

594
00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 2: mom like forces you to have a baby. You cannot

595
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 2: get judicial bypass to get an abortion.

596
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 1: Well not since Rogie Waite overturned. You just can't get

597
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 1: an abortion in Louisiana. But before it was. But then

598
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 1: she once she figured out I had gotten my abortion,

599
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 1: she dropped her lawsuit because she was like, there's no

600
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 1: point in pursuing this if my daughter, because if I

601
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 1: would have ever gotten pregnant, like right after I would

602
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 1: have been eighteen, would have been able to time for

603
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 1: my own.

604
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 2: So so after you get your second abortion, your mom

605
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 2: stops fighting everyone because she's just like, well, there's no

606
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:34,480
Speaker 2: point anymore.

607
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:36,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, she just lets go.

608
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 2: So all right, so you you were you were living

609
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 2: with all right, So you get your second abortion, your

610
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 2: mom is like doing whatever. You're living with your boyfriend

611
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 2: and his aunt and then his aunt kicks you out. Yeah,

612
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 2: and then where do you go from there?

613
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:03,040
Speaker 1: Well? I kind of just like like I lived in

614
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 1: my car for like a couple of days, but then

615
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 1: like that wasn't really I couldn't really do that and

616
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 1: go to school because I was still in school, like

617
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:10,719
Speaker 1: I was able to enroll back in school for my

618
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 1: senior year. So I was like, well, this kind of

619
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:17,400
Speaker 1: can't work. So I called up my godfather, who was

620
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 1: extremely religious and like he knew everything that was going on,

621
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:26,440
Speaker 1: and I was like, hey, this is a situation, like

622
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:29,360
Speaker 1: I'm working on getting emancipated to like be able to

623
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:31,440
Speaker 1: sign to my own apartment, but because I'm not in

624
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 1: no apartment complex, will let me sign? Can I stay

625
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:39,400
Speaker 1: with you for a few months? And thank him? I

626
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:41,719
Speaker 1: thank him every day he let me stay with him.

627
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:45,280
Speaker 1: I didn't know staying with him for probably four months

628
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 1: before I was able to get into my apartment and

629
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 1: move out. But I got emancipated in that time. My

630
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:53,400
Speaker 1: lawyer like saw what my mom was doing and like

631
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 1: all the litigation, and he was like, hell, I'll help

632
00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 1: you get emancipated, like no charge if you want to.

633
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:01,400
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, please.

634
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:05,360
Speaker 2: So you get emancipate when you're like what seventeen?

635
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, it ended up. I ended up. I think it

636
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:12,800
Speaker 1: was November fourth, twenty twenty one. I was seventeen. My mom.

637
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 1: My mom was gonna try and fight it with one

638
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 1: of her lawyer friends. But whenever, like I told her,

639
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:21,920
Speaker 1: who I was gonna like have his witness, like her

640
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 1: ex boyfriend and like some other family members who she

641
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:27,400
Speaker 1: kind of sucked over. She was like, yeah, I'm gonna

642
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:28,360
Speaker 1: a losing battle.

643
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:38,279
Speaker 2: Goddamn dude. So all right, so you get emancipated, and

644
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 2: then what do you do? What do you do? From there?

645
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:42,360
Speaker 2: You're living with your I'm sorry you said your your uncle.

646
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:45,719
Speaker 1: My godfather. He was like kind of like my father

647
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 1: figure in my life, okay, and so I just kind

648
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:51,759
Speaker 1: of live with him. I live with him until the

649
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:55,400
Speaker 1: end of January, from like November, from like October November

650
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 1: ish till January twenty twenty two, and then me and

651
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 1: my boyfriend moved into our apartment. And I'm still a

652
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:03,880
Speaker 1: senior in high school right now.

653
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 2: Where you're senior high school right now?

654
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:07,919
Speaker 1: No, I was. I was at the time.

655
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 2: So so you're like seventeen eighteen, you're senior in high school.

656
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 2: You and your boyfriend moved to an apartment. How are

657
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:14,279
Speaker 2: you paying for it? Do you guys have a job?

658
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, well I was. I was working since right after

659
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 1: my first one, and then he had been working since

660
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 1: like six months before. So we were both like and

661
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 1: we were both high school seniors just like working like

662
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 1: normal stops. Like I was working at Starbucks and he

663
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:34,760
Speaker 1: was working at the grocery store.

664
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 2: How'd you get time to work while being in high school?

665
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:42,799
Speaker 1: Well, because I was a senior, I only had two classes,

666
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:44,960
Speaker 1: Like those were only the credits I need to be

667
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 1: finished because I was like smart and did like some

668
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 1: of my credits in middle school. But I didn't have

669
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:50,799
Speaker 1: to have like a full.

670
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so you didn't have to go to school.

671
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:00,439
Speaker 2: So you were going to high school like a part

672
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 2: time and then on like a work release after that.

673
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I was like going to school from like

674
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 1: seven to nine thirty and then I was like at

675
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 1: work from like either like ten to five, where like

676
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 1: I would work the closing like twelve to nine thirty.

677
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:16,239
Speaker 2: And that was an I know a lot of like

678
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:18,920
Speaker 2: did you like from from like the Starbucks and the

679
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 2: grocery street. You guys were able to make rent?

680
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was actually pretty cheap. It was only like

681
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 1: five hundred whenever we first moved in.

682
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:31,720
Speaker 2: Damn it was what a one bedroom.

683
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was like a one bedroom condo.

684
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 2: It was like downstairs one bedroom condo.

685
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 1: Five hundred bucks a month, just no, a one bedroom.

686
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:46,360
Speaker 2: Well a one bedroom five hundred bucks a month. Yeah,

687
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 2: pretty fucking good, especially between two of you guys. Yeah, jeez,

688
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 2: oh my god. And so have you? Are you still

689
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 2: is that where you're still living now?

690
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 1: Yeah? And so I graduate.

691
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:11,959
Speaker 2: And now you're in college college? What do you study?

692
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 1: Microbiology?

693
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 2: Wow? And your boyfriend, what's you do?

694
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:19,400
Speaker 1: He still works at the same grocery store, but he

695
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 1: works in like the meat department.

696
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 2: Cool, he likes and does stuff. What's what's what's the

697
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:27,399
Speaker 2: what's the hope and dream for you?

698
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 1: Definitely move out of his town, definitely, probably states, maybe countries.

699
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 1: I kind of just want to live like a little

700
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:43,719
Speaker 1: farm life in a cottage in like the mountains and

701
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:44,800
Speaker 1: just garden.

702
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 2: So did you ever talk to your mom again?

703
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 1: Yeah? About like whenever I was moving in, she like

704
00:38:57,280 --> 00:39:01,360
Speaker 1: slowly started to like integrate her way back into my life.

705
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 1: Like she offered like bias a TV and like bias groceries,

706
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 1: and like I was pissed, poor broke at the time.

707
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:11,799
Speaker 1: I'm not going to deny the help. So she like

708
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 1: slowly started to ease her way in that way. And

709
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:19,279
Speaker 1: then now it's crazy to say, but we're actually kind

710
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 1: of cool. It's like really not really mother daughter. We're

711
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 1: like more so just friends. Yeah, But I mean, like

712
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:27,719
Speaker 1: she tells me all of her drama with her. I'm

713
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 1: kind of like her therapist in a way. Really, Like

714
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:32,400
Speaker 1: I just kind of listen to her drama and stuff

715
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 1: and I give her advice. And that's about as far

716
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:37,319
Speaker 1: as our relationship goes. I mean, it's not been ever

717
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 1: too personal.

718
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:43,920
Speaker 2: So you and your mom, so, I mean, goddamn, your

719
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 2: mom like just makes your life fucking hell for you know,

720
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:54,359
Speaker 2: two years during this crazy difficult time, she's doing all

721
00:39:54,400 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 2: this insane litigation stuff really not being a mom. And

722
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 2: then later like what what's the deal? So she starts

723
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:10,719
Speaker 2: like slowly like integrating herself back into like I guess, okay,

724
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:14,720
Speaker 2: so she leaves, So okay, so you're in the hospital,

725
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:17,319
Speaker 2: you find out that you're pregnant again, she leaves. You

726
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 2: don't hear from her much, I guess, except her like

727
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:22,960
Speaker 2: suing everyone. And then when does she start to come

728
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 2: back into your life?

729
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 1: And how well, Like after I got emancipated, she started

730
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 1: the only contact she had on me was email. So

731
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 1: she just started emailing me like once a week, just

732
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:38,240
Speaker 1: giving updates about her life and like asking how I'm doing,

733
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 1: and I never responded. I would just like look at them,

734
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:44,799
Speaker 1: how I'd read them, I kind of sigh, and then

735
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 1: I would just delete them. And that went on for

736
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:53,359
Speaker 1: probably about three months. And then like whenever we were

737
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:55,880
Speaker 1: moving in, I still had some stuff at my mom's house,

738
00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:58,239
Speaker 1: so I needed to like go back to like get

739
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:01,360
Speaker 1: directed myself, like my bed was still there and that

740
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:03,239
Speaker 1: kind of stuff, and she was gonna let me take it,

741
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:06,800
Speaker 1: and so all of our context was like between my grandma,

742
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 1: so like I would just ask my grandma to ask

743
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 1: her like when I could go and that kind of stuff.

744
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 1: And then whenever, like I got to her house, we

745
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:18,799
Speaker 1: just kind of got to talking and it was like

746
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:21,799
Speaker 1: it's kind of weird to say, but it was like

747
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 1: you could feel the tension like from the stuff that

748
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 1: just happened. But it was also kind of like normal

749
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 1: in a way because my mom's like always kind of

750
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:32,920
Speaker 1: done me dirty, Like she's kind of always done me wrong,

751
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:35,719
Speaker 1: So like us being in that situation where like her

752
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 1: asking for forgiveness and like asking to be left back

753
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 1: into my life isn't something new, so I'm kind of

754
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:43,319
Speaker 1: like I guess used to that. I'm like used to

755
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:48,399
Speaker 1: her asking to come back, and.

756
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:55,359
Speaker 2: Every end, despite everything, you found the strength to is

757
00:41:55,360 --> 00:42:00,120
Speaker 2: is forgive her the right word? Would you say you've

758
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:02,440
Speaker 2: forgiven her by letting her back into your life?

759
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:07,360
Speaker 1: I think I think I have. I think I've forgiven.

760
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 1: I just haven't forgot. Like it's still it just bawns

761
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 1: on me sometimes, like especially whenever like we talk about

762
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:20,439
Speaker 1: like certain topics and stuff like that. But I think,

763
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 1: for the most part, like I understand, like I understand

764
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:25,759
Speaker 1: a lot of it is due to like her drugs

765
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 1: and her alcoholism and how selfish that can make her,

766
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 1: and how like during that time, the drugs were definitely

767
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:37,759
Speaker 1: not helping and probably just feeling into her selfishness, and

768
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 1: so like I guess I kind of recognize that, and

769
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 1: I guess I kind of not like blame, but like

770
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:48,920
Speaker 1: m I guess I expect her to do that kind

771
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:51,919
Speaker 1: of stuff because of the drugs. So like in a way,

772
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 1: I know it's not her, Like I know it's not

773
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 1: like my my mom that's doing that, And.

774
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:02,520
Speaker 2: Yeah it does does. I mean, that's a lot of

775
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:07,319
Speaker 2: so so she's you're kind of like her therapist now,

776
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 2: like she'll come to you for like advice, and to events.

777
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, so, like she's dating this guy who has the

778
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:22,319
Speaker 1: same name as her ex, and so like whenever they

779
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 1: first started dating, she like would come to me and

780
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:26,960
Speaker 1: she'd be like do I tell him? Do I not

781
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:31,239
Speaker 1: tell him? And then like she just like there's like

782
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:33,440
Speaker 1: I definitely have boundaries with her, but she has no

783
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 1: boundaries with me. Like any topic in her life is

784
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:39,719
Speaker 1: like completely okay to talk about with me. So like

785
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 1: she's like talking to me about like their like their

786
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 1: intimacy like compared to her ex and that kind of stuff,

787
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 1: and asking like my opinion on that, or like asking

788
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 1: like if she should text them or if she should

789
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:49,959
Speaker 1: not text them.

790
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 2: Really? Wow, man, Yeah, your mom's a doozy.

791
00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:57,680
Speaker 1: Is She's something that's for sure?

792
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 2: And uh, I mean, how do you feel, like do

793
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:06,800
Speaker 2: you being in this uh after this whole entire crazy saga,

794
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 2: I mean, how do you how do you feel about

795
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:11,360
Speaker 2: being in this position with her?

796
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:17,400
Speaker 1: Oh? I mean, honestly, I think I'm just relieved because

797
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 1: the situation could have gone a lot worse. Like I

798
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:22,360
Speaker 1: mean I could have two babies right now, or I

799
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:24,880
Speaker 1: can have a baby and see at college and stuff

800
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:27,040
Speaker 1: like that, And so I think because things worked out

801
00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:29,839
Speaker 1: in my favor the way I wanted them to. Gives

802
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:31,600
Speaker 1: me a lot of room to be gracious, like I'm

803
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 1: not gonna have a forever child, reminding me of what

804
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 1: my mom tried to do with me, Like I don't

805
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 1: have that forever scar unless like I really like think

806
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:40,160
Speaker 1: about it.

807
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:45,160
Speaker 2: M hm m m yeah, yeah, because I mean, look, man,

808
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:47,239
Speaker 2: right now, you know, being twenty and living in this

809
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:49,880
Speaker 2: apartment and you're working, going to school, you're doing all

810
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 2: these things. I mean you really, I mean, you could

811
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:53,359
Speaker 2: do it with if you had a kid, but it'd

812
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 2: be a thousand fucking times harder, and then you know,

813
00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 2: you'd build resentment, you'd build further that meant for your mom,

814
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 2: and that might lead into resentment for the kid, and

815
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:06,080
Speaker 2: it would just have been a been a fucking you

816
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:06,840
Speaker 2: know disaster.

817
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:10,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was never a healthy situation to start with.

818
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 2: I'm gonna just real quick, I'm gonna ask if the

819
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:18,879
Speaker 2: chat has any questions for you, because this has been

820
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 2: a by the way, I want to thank you. I'll

821
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 2: let the chat put some questions and I'll pick some

822
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:24,960
Speaker 2: questions from the chat, but I want I want to

823
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 2: thank you for talking to us about this. This whole

824
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 2: crazy story. I hope it was beneficial or helpful to

825
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:36,560
Speaker 2: you to to talk through. I mean, it's it's totally wild,

826
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:39,399
Speaker 2: and I have I have tons of respect for you

827
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 2: for for a lot of things. For you know, your

828
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 2: your ability to continue to have a relationship with your

829
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 2: mom withstanding all of these, uhwithstanding this whole saga, and

830
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:55,799
Speaker 2: for your ability to stay strong throughout it all and

831
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 2: to kind of be able to emerge, you know, with

832
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:01,719
Speaker 2: a with a good, happy life on the other end

833
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 2: of it.

834
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:04,920
Speaker 1: Thank you.

835
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 2: Let's see here, someone wants to know if you have

836
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 2: advice for any if you have advice for women in

837
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:16,400
Speaker 2: similar scenarios.

838
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:19,759
Speaker 1: Go with your good feeling, because I have never regretted

839
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 1: my choices ever in the slightest, not one bit. It's

840
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 1: a really hard decision, and I completely empathize with you,

841
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 1: but just always do what's best for you, no matter

842
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:35,719
Speaker 1: what anybody thinks, because at the end of the day,

843
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:37,080
Speaker 1: you got to live with a choice.

844
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 2: Someone asked, do you ever want a kid.

845
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:47,360
Speaker 1: To be determined? After being really sick that first time?

846
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 1: New research has found out that it's actually genetic, So

847
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:55,720
Speaker 1: if I ever do become pregnant again, it might happen again,

848
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:58,440
Speaker 1: and I don't know if that's something that I'm willing

849
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:01,320
Speaker 1: to like put my life at risk, and adoption is

850
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 1: always a good option. I think if I ever want

851
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:06,360
Speaker 1: a child in my life, but I don't have, I

852
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:09,840
Speaker 1: have really big aspirations to travel and to live my

853
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:12,200
Speaker 1: life to the extent, and if a child fits in there,

854
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 1: then a child fits in. But if not, I don't

855
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:15,839
Speaker 1: have any desire right now.

856
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:19,800
Speaker 2: Someone said, what kept you going when it looked dire?

857
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:26,440
Speaker 1: My boyfriend was a really big help. He was a

858
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:30,120
Speaker 1: really big support to lean on and to just hear

859
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 1: me vent over and over about my mom and how

860
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:37,120
Speaker 1: I can believe it. We'd helped a lot. My anxiety

861
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:41,440
Speaker 1: was really bad, like my sickness was really bad, and

862
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:45,319
Speaker 1: just thinking about my future. Honestly, I've always been a

863
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:47,200
Speaker 1: big dreamer. That kind of always helped me. When I

864
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 1: was younger and my mom was using and I was scared,

865
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:52,839
Speaker 1: so I just kept dreaming of like my dream vacations

866
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:54,520
Speaker 1: and I would just plan them out in my head

867
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 1: whenever I got over anxious, and that like always helped

868
00:47:57,080 --> 00:47:58,920
Speaker 1: calm me down because I always had something to look

869
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:01,960
Speaker 1: forward to and all look about. Uh.

870
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 2: Someone asked which fast food joint you think has the

871
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:08,359
Speaker 2: best French fries?

872
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 1: Ooh ooh m McDonald's when they're crispy.

873
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:21,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I've been Actually, i've been into Burger King recently.

874
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 2: I was at a Burger King at the airport and

875
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:26,759
Speaker 2: they have all these like breakfast options. It was like

876
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:29,680
Speaker 2: seven in the morning and they have all these breakfast options,

877
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:32,759
Speaker 2: but at the very bottom it's it's a tab and

878
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:35,759
Speaker 2: it literally says on the tablet, do you want a

879
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:37,719
Speaker 2: whopper for breakfast? And I was like, I kind of

880
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 2: do when So I had a whopper and fries at

881
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:42,319
Speaker 2: seven in the morning. It was pretty good. I don't

882
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 2: know why I threw that in there, but let's see

883
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:49,239
Speaker 2: if there's a Oh okay, I actually this is the

884
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 2: last one, and I'm curious about this. Where do you

885
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:52,799
Speaker 2: want to go? You said you want to travel a lot.

886
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:54,680
Speaker 2: What's your dream destination?

887
00:48:56,680 --> 00:49:07,120
Speaker 1: Oh? My dream is probably the man that's hard, probably Italy.

888
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 1: I really like Italian culture or like Italian food too.

889
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:14,239
Speaker 1: But I have a trip plan in Scotland and Ireland

890
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:17,480
Speaker 1: next summer, right after the finals of my junior year,

891
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:19,799
Speaker 1: so I'm really excited for that.

892
00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:26,040
Speaker 2: What's your name? Again, Ariana, Ariana, Well, Ariana, look, I'll

893
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:30,359
Speaker 2: say it again. I mean, dude, like going through all

894
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:34,120
Speaker 2: this shit, having you know, especially without your dad and

895
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 2: with your mom being crazy, and it's just I'm inspired

896
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:41,520
Speaker 2: by how you were able to deal with all this

897
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 2: shit and then still come back on top and you're

898
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:46,040
Speaker 2: out here living your best life and you're making it

899
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:50,360
Speaker 2: work and you seem like you're happy, and you know,

900
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:52,600
Speaker 2: congrats to you on all that stuff.

901
00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:54,719
Speaker 1: Thanks Gak.

902
00:49:57,400 --> 00:49:59,759
Speaker 2: Well, is there anything else that you want to say

903
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 2: to the people of the computer or about the story,

904
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:04,839
Speaker 2: or about French fries or anything at all before we go?

905
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:14,680
Speaker 1: Make good choices. If you don't make good choices, you

906
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:18,560
Speaker 1: can always change them.

907
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:21,560
Speaker 2: Well, take care, Arianna, and thank you for calling and

908
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:22,320
Speaker 2: sharing your story.

909
00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:27,279
Speaker 1: Thanks gag later, dude later.

910
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:32,839
Speaker 2: That's crazy, man. I mean, I you know, I'm I'm

911
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:38,480
Speaker 2: very lucky I have I have supportive, supportive parents because

912
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:43,239
Speaker 2: you know, I don't know, it's one thing, like it's

913
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:45,759
Speaker 2: one thing like being a like if you're gonna be

914
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:51,319
Speaker 2: like a piece of shit in your own universe, right

915
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:56,239
Speaker 2: like self destructive and you know, make bad choices like

916
00:50:56,360 --> 00:51:01,520
Speaker 2: I get it, you know, I get it, But to

917
00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:06,280
Speaker 2: do all of that as like a as like an attack

918
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:14,000
Speaker 2: on your own child. This is fucked up. So whatever

919
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:16,719
Speaker 2: I mean. I also, I really do, I really have

920
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:22,720
Speaker 2: a deep respect for Arianna, Like, after all that man,

921
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:28,440
Speaker 2: after all that, she still is will she's willing to

922
00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:32,040
Speaker 2: hang out with her mom and give her boy advice.

923
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:35,960
Speaker 2: I mean that takes a lot of that kind of forgiveness.

924
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:40,360
Speaker 2: It takes a lot of character, it really does to

925
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:45,560
Speaker 2: do all that, to like to take all that like

926
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:51,200
Speaker 2: evil stuff her mom was doing and then recognize that

927
00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:58,920
Speaker 2: beneath all of that is a woman who is struggling

928
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:06,319
Speaker 2: with her addiction and her you know, drug abuse and

929
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:12,879
Speaker 2: alcoholism and problems with her own relationships and of course

930
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:14,680
Speaker 2: and look, she could look at all that and be like,

931
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:17,200
Speaker 2: I don't give a fuck. I'm not responsible for that.

932
00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:19,719
Speaker 2: You're a grown woman. You can handle it. And you know,

933
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:21,319
Speaker 2: she can do that if she wanted to do. But

934
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:23,359
Speaker 2: this is not what she did. She recognized it and

935
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:28,600
Speaker 2: she went, you know what, I'll be your girly, you know,

936
00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:33,920
Speaker 2: send tell me about this guy. And I really have

937
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:37,520
Speaker 2: a deep respect for that. It reminds me of I've

938
00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:40,880
Speaker 2: talked about this before. I've talked about fucking toy story

939
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:43,719
Speaker 2: Toy Story three. It reminds me of that scene in

940
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:48,000
Speaker 2: Toy Story three where lots of hugging where they fucking uh,

941
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:50,759
Speaker 2: lots of hugging Bear. He had just fucked over all

942
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:54,200
Speaker 2: of the toys and he was just fucking them over.

943
00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:57,880
Speaker 2: He was scheming hard to fuck them over, and he does,

944
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:00,440
Speaker 2: and he sends them all onto the track. But then

945
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:03,680
Speaker 2: he also gets sent into the trash and all the

946
00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:09,279
Speaker 2: toys are like grabbing metal stuff to like avoid the incinerator.

947
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:12,319
Speaker 2: You guys know what I'm talking about. And then they're

948
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:15,319
Speaker 2: about to like get over the incinerator when lots of

949
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:17,240
Speaker 2: hugging Bear is like, help me. I'm stuck. I'm stumped

950
00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:19,920
Speaker 2: down here. I'm stuck. I need help, and do you

951
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:21,880
Speaker 2: know and ever and everyone's like, come on, Woody, we

952
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:23,839
Speaker 2: gotta go fucking leave him. He's a piece of shit.

953
00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:26,520
Speaker 2: Leave him. And then what does Woody do? It makes

954
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:28,799
Speaker 2: me cry to think about it every time. What does

955
00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:32,480
Speaker 2: Woody do? Because he's Woody and he has this like

956
00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:40,160
Speaker 2: immaculate character to him, he fucking goes down there and

957
00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:45,280
Speaker 2: he saves lots of hugging Bear from the incinerator because

958
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:47,680
Speaker 2: that's the kind of guy he is. And then do

959
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:50,320
Speaker 2: you know what lots of huggin Bear does. He fucks

960
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:54,480
Speaker 2: them over again. It's insane, It's insane. It's I think

961
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:58,480
Speaker 2: about this movie all the time. Anyway, I don't know,

962
00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:02,160
Speaker 2: this just reminded me of that. Thank you for sharing

963
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:06,520
Speaker 2: your story, Arianna. Rep Cat goes on the line taking

964
00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:09,879
Speaker 2: your phone calls every night. The repeak Can goes doing

965
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:11,840
Speaker 2: his eye who's teaching you to a hout in the

966
00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:15,200
Speaker 2: middle of your life, but he's not really an expert.