1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:02,040 Speaker 1: Can't. I am six forty. 2 00:00:02,080 --> 00:00:05,239 Speaker 2: You're listening to the John Cobelt podcast on the iHeartRadio 3 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:08,560 Speaker 2: app round the radio from one until four. Then after 4 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 2: four o'clock it's the John Cobelt Show on demand and 5 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 2: you can listen to whatever you missed. Coming up at 6 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 2: one thirty, we're gonna have Mike Remolard. Oh you're not 7 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 2: gonna believe this. Bernie Sanders. Bernie Sanders dropped the big 8 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 2: one in the toilet today. He has a bill that 9 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 2: would force businesses to cut the work week from forty 10 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 2: hours to thirty two hours, but everybody gets the same pay. Yeah, 11 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 2: that's good if you're running a business, right, Although, considering 12 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:48,840 Speaker 2: how little people show up, I say, maybe Bernie's ahead 13 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 2: of the curve here. But we're going to talk with that. 14 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 2: It's obviously getting a bad reception from a lot of 15 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 2: other people. But I heard this guy give an interview 16 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 2: and he has kissed so smug about it. He knows 17 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 2: he's absolutely right. It's time to check out. I'm ready 18 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 2: for the exit. 19 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 3: Badre I just totally. 20 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 2: Do you have a couch in there? I wanted to 21 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 2: just lay there and just I need a psychiatric session. 22 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:17,320 Speaker 2: You can just you know, yeah, I can let some 23 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:19,959 Speaker 2: of it out here, all right. So I mentioned the 24 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 2: other day, I went to Arizona over the weekend, met 25 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:25,120 Speaker 2: a bunch of old friends. 26 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:27,279 Speaker 1: We went to UH spring training games. 27 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 2: I come back Sunday night, all by myself, very conscious 28 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 2: of gas because it's it's a six hour ride to 29 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:39,319 Speaker 2: come from Scottsdale, seven hours with some traffic bumps. And say, 30 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:41,399 Speaker 2: you got to keep track of the great gas, and 31 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 2: you keep tracking the prices, and I noticed the last 32 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 2: station in Arizona was three dollars and twenty five cents, 33 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 2: which I'm marvel at. You imagine if you saw in 34 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 2: La or Orange County three twenty five. I mean you 35 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 2: your your heart would start racing, right. You might, you 36 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 2: might crash into a gas bump. You'd be so excited. 37 00:01:59,360 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 1: But I didn't. 38 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 2: And I'm trying to time it out right. So I 39 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 2: have a full enough tank to get to to get 40 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 2: home without stopping a second time. And I'm in California 41 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 2: and not too far over the California border. I decide 42 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:18,800 Speaker 2: to get the gas finally, and six dollars and nine cents, 43 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 2: and but it was it was like last last services 44 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:27,239 Speaker 2: for forty five miles. One of those situations six dollars 45 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 2: and nine cents. My god, it's it's almost double, almost double. 46 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 2: And I don't even think I drove an hour. And 47 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:43,799 Speaker 2: then this morning in California in the California Globe that's 48 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 2: Californiaglobe dot com, Katie Grimes, who we've had on the 49 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 2: show many times, she's got a story about how California 50 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:57,960 Speaker 2: residents are paying one hundred and forty percent more for 51 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 2: electricity than other states, one hundred and forty percent more. 52 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:08,800 Speaker 1: And this isn't new. 53 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 2: Because according to Mayor Nor, he told the Globe, go 54 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 2: look at the Energy Information Agency that is EIA dot gov. 55 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 2: So this is a government agency and they have listings 56 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 2: of how much residents pay for electricity in all the states. 57 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 2: And in twenty eighteen, California paid one hundred and twenty 58 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 2: four percent more than other states. In twenty nineteen it 59 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 2: was one hundred and thirty nine percent, twenty twenty one 60 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 2: hundred and thirty one percent, twenty twenty four one hundred 61 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 2: and forty percent. Then Nor showed Katie Grimes PG and 62 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 2: e s latest financial statements, and PG and E has 63 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 2: raised energy prices sixty percent over the last two years 64 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:16,279 Speaker 2: sixty percent. Now, that is ten times, twenty times, ten 65 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:20,040 Speaker 2: times more than the than the inflation rate is supposed 66 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 2: to be, which makes me question the inflation rate because 67 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:27,720 Speaker 2: the electricity bill is a pretty big bill. It certainly 68 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 2: seems to be at our house when we get the 69 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 2: electric and mortar bill every two months from DWP. Holy mackerel, 70 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 2: that thing is just horrible. And you're looking at these rates. 71 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 1: Here. 72 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:44,040 Speaker 2: I told you that the difference between the gas Arizona 73 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 2: and California was double the difference for electricity across the border, 74 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 2: two hundred and seventy five percent difference. And it's not 75 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:55,719 Speaker 2: like Arizona is the lowest price state in the nation. 76 00:04:56,160 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 2: Arizona's twenty fifth. They're exactly in the middle. They're the 77 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:04,480 Speaker 2: median priced state in the nation, and we're two hundred 78 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:09,599 Speaker 2: and seventy five percent higher than they are. The reason 79 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 2: for these extreme excessive electricity rates and extreme excessive gas 80 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 2: rates are all the climate change laws and taxes and 81 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 2: fees and regulations that have choked the energy industry and 82 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 2: driven our price is sky high, all. 83 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 1: In the name of climate change. 84 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 2: And some of you in Santa Monica might be going well, 85 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 2: you know it is necessary. I mean, climate change is 86 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:39,599 Speaker 2: an existential threat. Well, here's another piece of the puzzle, 87 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 2: and nobody's got an explanation for this. We put out 88 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 2: three and a half percent more greenhouse gases in the 89 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:52,479 Speaker 2: last year than the year before. So this is like 90 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 2: what they do with homeless. They throw billions of dollars 91 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:57,160 Speaker 2: at the homeless, and we end up with more homeless. 92 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:01,920 Speaker 2: Here they're charging US billions and billions dollars more for energy, 93 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 2: whether it's electricity or it's gasoline, and they create more 94 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 2: greenhouse gas. 95 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 1: How the hell is that happening? 96 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:14,599 Speaker 2: Because the purpose is to create a racket so that 97 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:22,559 Speaker 2: the government and various favored groups in industries can steal 98 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 2: the money. And this is just a theft operation, a 99 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:32,479 Speaker 2: grand theft operation. If you're paying double in gas, if 100 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 2: you're paying almost three times as much for electricity than 101 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:41,480 Speaker 2: Arizona and there's more greenhouse gases going in the air, 102 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:45,839 Speaker 2: obviously the plan is a failure. Obviously you're getting screwed, 103 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:48,799 Speaker 2: you're getting ripped off. But you don't know it because 104 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 2: how many people go to Arizona to check for the 105 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:53,719 Speaker 2: gas price. How many people go to Arizona to check 106 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:57,839 Speaker 2: other people's electricity bills. You don't know, so they can 107 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 2: do this, and if you dare criticize, it's like, well, 108 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 2: you know we do have an existential threat. Well, if 109 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:06,359 Speaker 2: it's an existential threat, then how come the total amount 110 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 2: of greenhouse gases are going up. Whatever they've done has 111 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 2: failed because the purpose was not to prevent greenhouse gases. 112 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 2: The purpose was to make this complicated mechanism that would 113 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 2: cost us a lot of money and make it too 114 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 2: complicated and too abstract for an ordinary person to understand 115 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 2: or care about. 116 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 1: It's so frustrating. 117 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 2: But all you need is a little bit of information. 118 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 2: All you need to know is the price of gas 119 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 2: in Arizona and the price of electricity in Arizona, and 120 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 2: then a big light bulb ought to go up over 121 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 2: your head. 122 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 1: Unfortunately, we don't have. 123 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 2: A single media outlet besides our show that would even 124 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 2: discuss this out loud, let alone challenge all the elected 125 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 2: officials about this. This should be the lead story. I mean, 126 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 2: if you were running, if you were running a TV station, 127 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 2: I was running a TV station, this is the lead 128 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 2: story for like ten nights in a row, Why the 129 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 2: hell are we paying double for gas? And double for 130 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 2: a triple for electricity. Actually it's almost quadruple for electricity, right, yeah, well, 131 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:16,239 Speaker 2: so why is this? And to hammer on this until 132 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 2: somebody gives you an answer, and as soon as they 133 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 2: give you an answer and say all right, we'll fix it, 134 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 2: fix it. I'm not paying two hundred and seventy five 135 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 2: percent more for electricity. I'm not paying double the gasoline price. 136 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 2: We are a bunch of clowns. We are just a 137 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 2: bunch of kick monkeys. Aren't we put up with this crap? 138 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 4: Now? 139 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 1: I'll put up with it in Arizona? Do they? 140 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 2: Why do we put And again, it doesn't make the 141 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 2: air cleaner, it doesn't make the climate cooler, It doesn't 142 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 2: do anything as advertised. It was a racket, a scam 143 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 2: from day one, and they knew it too. More coming up. 144 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 5: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM 145 00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 5: six forty. 146 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 2: Mark Remilard from Maybe News coming on after Debra's won 147 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 2: thirty News. Because Bernie Sanders, my god, see he's not senile, 148 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 2: all right, you listen to him talk it compared to Biden, 149 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:16,960 Speaker 2: that's a good test case. Bernie Sanders is not seen out, 150 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:19,959 Speaker 2: but he is crazy and he's got a bill that 151 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:25,199 Speaker 2: would turn the work week for every American forty hours 152 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:28,080 Speaker 2: to thirty two hours. By law, you would have to 153 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 2: get paid your current salary for thirty two hours, right, 154 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 2: And that's no trouble for businesses, right, make them pay 155 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 2: the same price for eight hours less work, Mark Remolard. 156 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 2: We'll talk about it coming up after one thirty. All right, now, 157 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 2: I told you in the first segment, is that I 158 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:55,959 Speaker 2: saw that we're paying double the gas prices just crossing 159 00:09:56,000 --> 00:10:00,160 Speaker 2: the Arizona California border on Sunday, and I was telling 160 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 2: you how the electricity prices, the difference in California is 161 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 2: two hundred and seventy five percent more than Arizona, California. 162 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 2: Globe did a story and they interviewed Dave Nor. He's 163 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 2: the mayor of Taft and Nor is the one who 164 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 2: found the statistics that we are paying one hundred and 165 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 2: forty percent more than the rest of the nation, and 166 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 2: that energy prices have shot up sixty percent in the 167 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 2: last two years. If you're a PG and E customer 168 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 2: and it's two hundred and seventy five percent higher than Arizona, 169 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 2: you would think they claim this is all for climate change. Right, Well, 170 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:44,960 Speaker 2: listen to this. This is from calmatters dot org. By 171 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 2: the way, I get way way more useful information out 172 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:53,200 Speaker 2: of cal Matters and the California Globe than if I 173 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 2: read the Alley Times for a month. Okay, because the 174 00:10:56,200 --> 00:11:02,199 Speaker 2: La Times it's race, gender, race, and gender. I think 175 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 2: those are the four had COVID. They're still doing COVID 176 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 2: stories and then and climate change. But the climate change 177 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 2: is all hysterical nonsense. What they don't ever tell you 178 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 2: in any great, any great detail, is your electricity prices 179 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 2: are far far higher than the rest of the civilized continent, right, 180 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 2: and far far higher gas prices. They never delve into that. Now, 181 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty one, California's emissions of greenhouse gases that 182 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:35,080 Speaker 2: would be carbon dioxide, methane and others increased almost three 183 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 2: and a half percent, and they write that increase puts 184 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 2: California further away for reaching its target mandated under state law. 185 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:50,200 Speaker 2: By law, we're supposed to emit forty percent less in 186 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:53,320 Speaker 2: twenty thirty than in nineteen ninety, but the numbers are 187 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 2: going up. 188 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 1: Now, how does that. 189 00:11:55,320 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 2: Work if California misses its mandated by law goal? Who 190 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:05,960 Speaker 2: goes to prison because they keep stressing in this story, 191 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:07,839 Speaker 2: this is the law, this must be done. 192 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 1: Well, here's another line under a plant. 193 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 2: Greenhouse gases must be cut forty eight percent below nineteen 194 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 2: ninety levels by twenty thirty eight. That's the Air Resources Board. 195 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 2: This is a separate set of bandates. Okay, well we're 196 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 2: not going to get there. Then what one gets violated? 197 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:35,199 Speaker 2: They create artificial goals, unreasonable goals, silly goals that will 198 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:38,680 Speaker 2: have no effect on the climate. Because the climate, whatever 199 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 2: little minuscule savings we make here in California is overwhelmed 200 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:48,720 Speaker 2: by the two and a half billion people in India 201 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 2: and China where they're building coal plants like they build 202 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 2: coal plants there like we build walmarts. And I'm just 203 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:03,960 Speaker 2: astonished and stunned that the thick skulls in California apparently 204 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:08,679 Speaker 2: don't know, don't understand it. If China and India are 205 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 2: going on coal plant spreese building them everywhere, because they 206 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:16,439 Speaker 2: have two and a half billion dollars two and a 207 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 2: half billion people, a lot of them in poverty, they 208 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:21,439 Speaker 2: have to You can only get out of poverty by 209 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:22,560 Speaker 2: burning fossil fuel. 210 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 1: There is no other option. 211 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:28,440 Speaker 2: Right now, and fossil fuel burning has pulled billions of 212 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 2: people out of poverty. 213 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 1: It is the. 214 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:34,079 Speaker 2: Single best way to pull people out of poverty. Fossil 215 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 2: fuel burning and a capitalist economic philosophy, that's how you 216 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:43,079 Speaker 2: get people out of poverty. And the burning Sanders of 217 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 2: the world think we should just print money and send 218 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:49,440 Speaker 2: it to people and that'll do it. Their lack of 219 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 2: economic understanding is just astonishing, and it's stupid and it's destructive. So, 220 00:13:57,280 --> 00:14:00,559 Speaker 2: you know, this whole article is just ruminating about, well, 221 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:01,200 Speaker 2: what are we going to do? 222 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 1: What are we going to do? 223 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:03,319 Speaker 2: We're not going to meet the goal, so we don't 224 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 2: meet the goal. Screw the goal. Why should we have 225 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 2: to meet the goal. It's not going to have an 226 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:10,440 Speaker 2: effect anyway, and trying to meet the goal is costing 227 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:12,960 Speaker 2: us an insane amount of money. What if we just 228 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 2: said the hell with it. We can't change what's happening. 229 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 2: And I've never really understood if you make the climate 230 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 2: milder for all the countries that have to go through 231 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 2: bitter cold weather, why is that so terrible? If it's 232 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 2: you know, if it's ten degrees hotter in the desert, 233 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 2: who's really going to care not many people living there 234 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 2: they begin with. But if you could make winters more mild, 235 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 2: allow people to grow crops year round, assuming that would happen, 236 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 2: and it won't, what's the big deal. I grew up 237 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 2: in the Northeast. I just met a group of friends, 238 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 2: mostly from the Northeast and Midwest. They're not missing winter 239 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 2: if it disappears. They'd be happy with mild winters for 240 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 2: the of their lives. That's why everybody's fleeing Arizona and Florida. 241 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 2: The snowbirds in Florida, the people come in Arizona for 242 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 2: six weeks of spring training. They're getting out of Michigan, Ohio, Minnesota, 243 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 2: in the Northeast because the weather is terrible. 244 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 1: I don't understand. Well, you know, it's all money making scams. 245 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 1: That's why. 246 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 2: You know, for all the extra money we pay, somebody's 247 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 2: getting it. State government is getting a lot of it. 248 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 2: And that's the whole point of state government is to 249 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 2: take our money and use it on themselves. More coming up, 250 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 2: and we're going to talk Mark Remillard because Bernie Sanders, 251 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 2: that genius, Oh my god, forcing American companies to have 252 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 2: their workers do thirty two a week instead of forty 253 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 2: hours a. 254 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 6: Week, John, what about the people that are already working 255 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 6: those hours, So then they're just going to work three 256 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 6: days a week. 257 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, maybe it's three days a week. Three day 258 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 1: a week. 259 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 2: People will do two days and you should all just 260 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:05,119 Speaker 2: sit home and scroll on your screens. 261 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 3: Woo, that'll be fun. 262 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 1: Yeah. Can you imagine Jo said, I'm not going. 263 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 3: To work five days a week anymore. 264 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 1: You're one of the few, is the last one left? 265 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 5: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI Am 266 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 5: six forty. 267 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 1: We're on the radio from one until four after four o'clock. 268 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 1: Whatever you missed. 269 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 2: It's John Cobelt on demand podcast on the iHeart app. 270 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 2: I want to call the Moistline tomorrow is Moistline Friday 271 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 2: eight seven seven moist eighty six. Leave all your rantings 272 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 2: and ravings and comments. Eight seven seven moist eighty six 273 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 2: is what you dial? Or use the talkback feature once 274 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 2: again on the iHeart app. This was This was quite 275 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:53,240 Speaker 2: a This is a Bertie Sanders special, isn't it. How 276 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 2: about a federal law that designates the work week to 277 00:16:56,680 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 2: be thirty two hours instead of forty That's what businesses 278 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 2: would be required to adhere to you work thirty two hours, 279 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 2: but you get forty hours worth of pay. They're actually 280 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:11,640 Speaker 2: going to have a hearing in a committee and we're 281 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:15,399 Speaker 2: going to talk now with Mark Remallard from ABC News, 282 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:19,680 Speaker 2: and he's going to explain this thing. Mark, how are you, hey, good, John, 283 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:22,880 Speaker 2: how are you? I'm all right, Well, give us the details. 284 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 2: What's this great idea he's got. 285 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:29,359 Speaker 4: Yeah, So what this is basically doing is I think 286 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 4: you hit it pretty well on the head there. Basically 287 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:35,119 Speaker 4: take what Americans consider a standard work week of forty 288 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:37,399 Speaker 4: hours a week and drop that to thirty two hours. 289 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 4: There's actually simultaneous bills being proposed here, won by Bernie Sanders, 290 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:43,919 Speaker 4: and then there's a bill in the House. Now. The 291 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 4: difference between the two really is that the one in 292 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:48,680 Speaker 4: the Senate that Bernie Sanders is proposing would basically keep 293 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:51,920 Speaker 4: pay rates the same though, So what workers are making 294 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 4: in forty hours a week, they would make in thirty 295 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:57,360 Speaker 4: two hours a week, and then after that point employers 296 00:17:57,359 --> 00:17:58,680 Speaker 4: would be required that's when the. 297 00:17:58,640 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 1: Overtime would kick in. 298 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 4: And basically Bernie Sanders' argument here is, you know, we've 299 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 4: had a forty hour work week as the standard work 300 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:09,440 Speaker 4: week since nineteen forty and over that time, technology has 301 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:13,919 Speaker 4: changed the American workforce to being far more productive today 302 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 4: than they were in nineteen forty, and he is basically 303 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 4: his argument. I mean, we're not strangers to Bernie Sanders. 304 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:23,919 Speaker 4: His argument is that the pay has remained roughly not 305 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:27,719 Speaker 4: kept in line with that productivity increase, So the money's 306 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 4: flowing upward and it's time to basically make changes. It's 307 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:33,160 Speaker 4: time to update it after eighty years. Of course, there's 308 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:35,639 Speaker 4: many counter arguments as to why this is not a 309 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 4: great idea from Republicans and their perspective, but that's essentially 310 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 4: Bernie Sanders' case here. 311 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 2: Well, the productivity increase comes from a lot of the 312 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:49,440 Speaker 2: automation and technology that many workers use, and the worker's 313 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:52,639 Speaker 2: pay is determined by a lot of factors, starting with 314 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:56,960 Speaker 2: the company's profitability. 315 00:18:57,080 --> 00:18:57,359 Speaker 1: Yeah. 316 00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think these are a great questions that the 317 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 4: details of this are not quite clear on, for example, 318 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:09,399 Speaker 4: like how does One of the arguments against this, for example, 319 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 4: with the Republicans was if you curtailed the standard work 320 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 4: week from forty to thirty two, what you're really saying 321 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 4: and you keep paying the same what you're really saying 322 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:20,639 Speaker 4: is you're giving workers a twenty percent raise because now 323 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:24,399 Speaker 4: they're getting paid for forty hours. We're making in forty 324 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:27,400 Speaker 4: hours now over thirty two hours, and so that could 325 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:29,960 Speaker 4: upend a number of businesses. And you know, I think 326 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 4: what's interesting here too is obviously forty hours is the 327 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 4: standard work week, and then you get. 328 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:34,680 Speaker 1: In time and a half. 329 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:37,719 Speaker 4: I'm not really sure how this affects salary positions, for example, 330 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:40,360 Speaker 4: which also kind of adhere to this forty hour work week. 331 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:43,159 Speaker 4: So many people who work salaries do work longer hours 332 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:45,679 Speaker 4: than forty in a week and without overtime, So how 333 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 4: does it affect them? You know, Like I said, I 334 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 4: think there's a lot of questions to be panned out. 335 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 2: Life is really complicated because there are people who work 336 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:55,880 Speaker 2: fifteen sixty hours a week, but they get the same 337 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 2: salary as forty hours, and it's just each business, each 338 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 2: employee andmployer work out their own negotiation. So to have 339 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:07,399 Speaker 2: the federal government imposed as standard that you're working thirty 340 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:10,639 Speaker 2: two hours, you're getting forty hours of pay, that doesn't 341 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 2: seem to fit the modern world. People aren't working in 342 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:14,400 Speaker 2: factories anymore. 343 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think that's a good point because a 344 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 4: lot of this what Bernie Sanders is focused on here 345 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:23,680 Speaker 4: is the idea of a continuation of a labor movement 346 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 4: that really began in the late nineteenth century when people 347 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 4: were working really tough and physically taxing jobs for sixty 348 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 4: seventy eighty hours a week maybe six days a week, 349 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:37,879 Speaker 4: and then that led to the labor movement working to 350 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:40,920 Speaker 4: control or take down those hours, which eventually led to 351 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:44,360 Speaker 4: the passage of federal legislation creating that forty hour work week. 352 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:46,959 Speaker 4: Of Bernie Sanders argument being we want to propel that 353 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:51,200 Speaker 4: or continue that movement essentially for or start having the conversation. 354 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:54,639 Speaker 4: I think Bernie Sanders recognizes the low likelihood of his 355 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:58,159 Speaker 4: bill moving forward even within the democratically controlled Senate, but 356 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 4: I think you make a good point too about the 357 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:03,239 Speaker 4: federal government making the change here. And this is one 358 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:06,879 Speaker 4: argument that we heard from Republican Bill Cassidy, who's the 359 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:11,360 Speaker 4: ranking member of the Senate Help Committee, was basically saying, look, 360 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:13,680 Speaker 4: if companies want to work thirty two hours or work 361 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 4: their employees thirty two hours a week, they can do it. 362 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:18,960 Speaker 4: There's nothing stopping There's nothing in the law that says 363 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:21,919 Speaker 4: you can't pay your workers what they're making in forty 364 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:24,960 Speaker 4: hours in thirty two hours, and do it that way, 365 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 4: and there's no need for the government to essentially step 366 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 4: in and make this regulation. 367 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know why this is like central control 368 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:33,920 Speaker 2: of the government. 369 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:35,119 Speaker 1: This is Soviet stuff. 370 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 2: I mean, let everybody make their own decisions, have their 371 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 2: own negotiations. And every industry is unique, all the jobs 372 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:46,440 Speaker 2: are different, not everything requires forty hours or thirty two hours. 373 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 2: Just let everybody sort it out. The system's worked very 374 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 2: well for most people for a long time. I don't 375 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 2: know why he doesn't. Can he go retire somewhere? I mean, 376 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:56,880 Speaker 2: he's eighty two. 377 00:21:57,119 --> 00:21:59,400 Speaker 4: I can't speak for Bernie Sanders in this retirement. 378 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 2: No, he's fighting the fight from nineteen thirty five though. 379 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:09,879 Speaker 7: That think, like I said, I go ahead, Yeah, like 380 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 7: I said, I was just going to say, I think 381 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:14,160 Speaker 7: I think from that perspective, you know, I think there's 382 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 7: a philosophical difference, right, is that how you view the 383 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:17,880 Speaker 7: role of government. 384 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 4: Right, And I think Bernie Sanders sees the role of 385 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:22,240 Speaker 4: government to step in and play a referee here and 386 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 4: recognizing that as he says that the productivity of workers 387 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:29,920 Speaker 4: has gone up, the wages are not needing that change. 388 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 4: And you know what's interesting about this though, too, is 389 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 4: we're at the dawn of what seems to be an 390 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 4: entirely new era of technology with the growth of AI. 391 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 4: And I think this is something that we heard from 392 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 4: Republicans today was instead of holding and hearing talking about 393 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:44,200 Speaker 4: the thirty two hour work week, why aren't we holding 394 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:46,640 Speaker 4: a hearing about how AI and technology is going to. 395 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:49,159 Speaker 1: Further upend the labor market. Let's talk about. 396 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 4: That, because that's going to have a much bigger effect. 397 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 4: And frankly, I think what we recognize here is you 398 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 4: know this Bill Berney Sanders recognizing as well, this is 399 00:22:57,600 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 4: probably not even going to pass his own chamber, let alone. 400 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 2: The It's very likely in twenty years daily work is 401 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 2: going to look unrecognizable compared to now because of the 402 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:10,119 Speaker 2: changes AI is going to make in so many industries. 403 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:16,119 Speaker 2: So trying to have the government decide hours in pay 404 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:18,919 Speaker 2: when we're on the verge of a revolution that is 405 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,360 Speaker 2: probably going to be more dramatic than when the internet 406 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:23,879 Speaker 2: showed up. All Right, well, thanks very much, Mark, it 407 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 2: was good talking with you. Mark Remilard from ABC News, 408 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:29,359 Speaker 2: Thanks all right, thanks talk with you. 409 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:30,160 Speaker 1: Again sometime. 410 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 2: You know, It's just there is a lot that's going 411 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:35,720 Speaker 2: to play out over the next I don't know how 412 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:37,879 Speaker 2: many years. I said twenty, but who knows. I mean, 413 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:39,920 Speaker 2: AI is going to change a lot of jobs. It's 414 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:44,399 Speaker 2: already changing a lot of jobs. And the basic tenets 415 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:47,919 Speaker 2: of a free market, which you know Bernie Sanders is 416 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:52,640 Speaker 2: you know, identifies himself as a socialist, a socialist. It's communism. 417 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:56,720 Speaker 2: It's government deciding how everyone's going to live, how companies 418 00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:59,399 Speaker 2: are going to conduct their business. And you know, the 419 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:02,440 Speaker 2: government the stupidest among us. I mean, if you gave 420 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:05,119 Speaker 2: IQ tests to all the government workers and compared it 421 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 2: to IQ tests in most other industries, they come out 422 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 2: at the bottom. They're not very bright. Many of the 423 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:13,479 Speaker 2: people in government are corrupt. And to give that crowd 424 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 2: even more say on how we're gonna live. If you 425 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 2: don't like your pay, if you don't like your boss, 426 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 2: if you don't like the color of your office, you 427 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 2: can always leave. And I have never understood why people 428 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 2: who carry on I'm not gang paid and you know 429 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 2: I'm working too much over time, then go somewhere else. 430 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 2: And if you can't find somewhere else to pay you more. Well, 431 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 2: then maybe that's all your worth. Maybe that's the limit 432 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 2: of your capabilities here, and you're not gonna get anymore ever, 433 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:49,400 Speaker 2: because you just don't have anything else to offer. It's 434 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:51,440 Speaker 2: a hard thing to get people to accept, though. 435 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:56,639 Speaker 5: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI Am 436 00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:57,200 Speaker 5: six forty. 437 00:24:58,080 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 1: Coming up after two o'clock. 438 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:02,160 Speaker 2: You're gonna play Sorry for You from Marla Tas, who's 439 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 2: frequently hosts programs here on KFI, and she's the Fox 440 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 2: eleven News anchor. Obviously, well, Marla did a report on 441 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:14,840 Speaker 2: a Los Angeles man who had leukemia and needed a 442 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 2: bone marrow transplant. 443 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 1: Now, about what. 444 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 2: How many illegal aliens came over the border? About three 445 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:27,240 Speaker 2: million in the past few years, three million illegal aliens. 446 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 2: We needed a guy here in his name's Arthur, Arthur You. 447 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:36,879 Speaker 2: He needed one immigrant to be allowed into the United 448 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 2: States because Arthur you needed a bone marrow transplant. And 449 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:44,879 Speaker 2: this guy who lived in the Philippines was the perfect match. 450 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:50,240 Speaker 2: And the US government wouldn't let him in, denied his 451 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 2: visa twice. And I'm reading the story and you'll hear 452 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 2: the audio version of it coming up after two o'clock 453 00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 2: it's we have a government that lets three million illegals 454 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:04,200 Speaker 2: over the border. Criminals, gang members, terrorists, no problem, come 455 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 2: right in and you can kill some of us on 456 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 2: your way. But here's a guy who can't get his 457 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:18,359 Speaker 2: bone arrow match into the country. You'll hear it coming 458 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:24,360 Speaker 2: up after two o'clock. All right, it's our now daily segment. 459 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:26,679 Speaker 3: Gee, let me guess on. 460 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 1: I'm sure you're aware of this. 461 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, you sent me the story this morning, flight three 462 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 2: forty five American Airlines going from Dallasport Worth they blew 463 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 2: a tire and had to do an emergency landing at 464 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:47,679 Speaker 2: Lax landed at a quarter to nine last night. It 465 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:51,720 Speaker 2: blew a tire during takeoff. Now that's what they said 466 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:56,040 Speaker 2: last night. And then they said, well there was no 467 00:26:56,119 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 2: blown tire, just the pressure was low. But in any event, 468 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:06,240 Speaker 2: it was an emergency landing. And it was I don know, 469 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 2: sixth one this week. Six times something happened and it's 470 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 2: another Boeing plane. This one was the seven seven seven, 471 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:17,200 Speaker 2: which is an older model seven seven seven Dash two hundred. 472 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 2: Today in the Daily Mail, apparently there's a new slogan 473 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 2: going around. 474 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 1: If it's Boeing, I'm not going. 475 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 2: Like that there's just anecdotal stories of people saying, you 476 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:33,879 Speaker 2: know what, I'll take almost anything else. And a website 477 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:37,240 Speaker 2: has sprung up and I just found the Daily Mail article, 478 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 2: but they don't have a direct link to the site, 479 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:41,760 Speaker 2: and I've got to go look for it. The site 480 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 2: will tell you how many Boeing planes each airline has, 481 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:51,960 Speaker 2: so you can determine who you want to fly. There 482 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 2: are a lot of airlines that don't use Boeing. Delta 483 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:01,440 Speaker 2: is one of them. They have no Boeing seven thirty 484 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 2: seven Maxes in its fleet, that particular type of Boeing, 485 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:08,440 Speaker 2: but it has one hundred orders for the Maxes. They're 486 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:12,399 Speaker 2: supposed to be delivered in twenty twenty five. When I 487 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:14,000 Speaker 2: find the link, we can go through the list. But 488 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:16,760 Speaker 2: what jumped out at me in the story is there's 489 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:19,639 Speaker 2: another former worker speaking out. 490 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 1: Now. 491 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:24,119 Speaker 2: The last guy who spoke out committed suicide, or so 492 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 2: they say. This guy is Joseph Clayton, and he worked 493 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:31,159 Speaker 2: for Boeing between twenty thirteen and twenty nineteen, and he 494 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 2: told The Daily Mail that management pressured people to do 495 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:43,160 Speaker 2: things that were unsavory, such as doing undocumented maintenance a mechanic. 496 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,480 Speaker 2: Everything has to be documented, but they would say, hey, 497 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:48,120 Speaker 2: just put a nut and bolt in and fix it 498 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:57,360 Speaker 2: without filling the problem report. Almost everything, almost everything involved 499 00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 2: doing something that. 500 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 1: Was not correct, is what he said. 501 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 2: And if you said no and wanted to do it properly, 502 00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 2: they would say you were being insubordinate. I would ask 503 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:12,560 Speaker 2: them to put everything in an email, and of course 504 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:16,440 Speaker 2: they would never send the email because flight mechanics are 505 00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 2: more liable for faults than your common worker. I'm liable 506 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 2: for inappropriate maintenance going back twenty years. You have to 507 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:27,400 Speaker 2: have it documented. And he finally left the company in 508 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 2: twenty nineteen. He said they were coeric, coercive, fearful, and 509 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 2: get this, he said, when I left, they made him 510 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:38,920 Speaker 2: sign a non disclosure agreement, so I can only speak 511 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:44,960 Speaker 2: in vague terms. It wasn't a condition of leaving. But 512 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,600 Speaker 2: if he signed it he would get two weeks extra pay. 513 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:53,680 Speaker 2: And they said they took a lot of people who 514 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,920 Speaker 2: wanted to do the right thing, and they would send 515 00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,360 Speaker 2: them to what's called the nineteenth section, and they put 516 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:01,719 Speaker 2: you in there forget about you. I guess the nineteen 517 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:04,800 Speaker 2: section was some kind of limbo place. If you insisted 518 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 2: on doing the right thing, documenting your work, use the 519 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 2: proper procedures. They put you in purgatory. So I think 520 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:18,080 Speaker 2: I think it's been really bad for a lot of 521 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 2: years at Boeing and everybody was told to shut up 522 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:27,400 Speaker 2: or you're dead, and one of them did end up dead, 523 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 2: and you're waiting for more stories to come out, but 524 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:34,040 Speaker 2: maybe they don't come out because of the NBA. Depending 525 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:37,200 Speaker 2: on how that's worried, you could end up losing a 526 00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:37,959 Speaker 2: lot of money. 527 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:40,480 Speaker 6: But you know, it's really interesting because we really didn't 528 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:44,960 Speaker 6: hear much before the whole Doug the door plug incident. 529 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:47,240 Speaker 3: Right then everything started happening. 530 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's often the case. Everything is covered up for 531 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:55,880 Speaker 2: years and years and there's one big event that happens 532 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:57,880 Speaker 2: and then everybody starts talking. 533 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,800 Speaker 6: So in a way, since nobody was hurt, maybe that 534 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:03,440 Speaker 6: was a positive thing because now we're finding out about 535 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:04,240 Speaker 6: all these issues. 536 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:08,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, this guy Clayton knew John Barnett, who committed suicide, 537 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:11,360 Speaker 2: and he says working with John, he was a good dude. 538 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:13,240 Speaker 2: It's one of those things where there's no telling what 539 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:16,680 Speaker 2: could happen day to day at that place. The pressure's 540 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:18,960 Speaker 2: changed and they come from different directions. They're good at 541 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,600 Speaker 2: getting away with what they're doing. They know what they're doing. 542 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:24,120 Speaker 2: I still have friends there and they say it's still 543 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:30,960 Speaker 2: the same. So this is many years of doing sloppy 544 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 2: work and not accounting for it and punishing people who 545 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 2: challenged and people that have. 546 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:39,840 Speaker 6: Not lost their jobs over this. You think because they 547 00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:43,240 Speaker 6: don't have anybody decent to replace them with. I mean 548 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:45,800 Speaker 6: because again, and I know I say this almost every day. 549 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:49,160 Speaker 6: Can you imagine if we were doing something bad here 550 00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:52,800 Speaker 6: at KFI, we'd be fired, right, If I was swearing 551 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 6: on the air, I'd be out of here, right, and 552 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:56,320 Speaker 6: no one's hurt. 553 00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:58,520 Speaker 1: There might be an audience for that exactly. 554 00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:01,520 Speaker 3: But I'm not hurting anybody. But these people are putting 555 00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:04,800 Speaker 3: people's lives at risk. Yet they're still employed. 556 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, well I'll be you know what, they're employed because 557 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:10,320 Speaker 2: there they were willing to cover everything up. 558 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:12,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, but no, everybody was willing. 559 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:12,719 Speaker 2: We know. 560 00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:15,120 Speaker 3: Now it's been a couple of months. I want to 561 00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:16,000 Speaker 3: see people fire. 562 00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:17,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't. I don't think management is going to 563 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:18,480 Speaker 1: survive this. 564 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:19,880 Speaker 3: I hope not. 565 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:22,280 Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, I. 566 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:24,040 Speaker 2: Mean, and the more people who talk, but you got 567 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:27,080 Speaker 2: to get people, you know, there should be some loophole 568 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:31,880 Speaker 2: in NDA law where if you're telling the truth that's 569 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:35,040 Speaker 2: needed to save lives, then you get to talk. 570 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:35,600 Speaker 3: Yes. 571 00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:39,240 Speaker 2: When we come back, we're going to tell you this. Well, 572 00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:42,720 Speaker 2: Marla Teu is from Fox eleven and she's often here 573 00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:47,160 Speaker 2: at KFI. She's got a report on a guy named Arthur. You, Arthur, 574 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:50,479 Speaker 2: You needed a bone marrow transplant here in America, and 575 00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 2: the match was a guy in the Philippines, and the 576 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:54,920 Speaker 2: US government would let this guy in to donate his 577 00:32:54,960 --> 00:33:00,680 Speaker 2: bone barrow, got his visa denied twice meantime at the border. Hey, 578 00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:03,560 Speaker 2: you've been listening to the John Cobalt Show podcast. You 579 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:06,200 Speaker 2: can always hear the show live on KFI AM six 580 00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:09,000 Speaker 2: forty from one to four pm every Monday through Friday, 581 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:12,320 Speaker 2: and of course anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio app.