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Speaker 3: Emily Badi here.

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Speaker 4: You are listening to episode two hundred and fifty nine

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Speaker 4: of Hurdle, a wellness focused podcast where I connect with

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Speaker 4: everyone from your favorite athletes to top experts and industry

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Speaker 4: We all go through hurdles in life, and my goal

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Speaker 3: For today's episode two fifty.

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Speaker 4: Nine, I am chatting with the one only Emma love Well.

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Speaker 4: Emma's a Peloton instructor. She's also a new author. Her book, Live, Learn,

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Speaker 4: Love Well is available everywhere books are sold. I will

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Speaker 4: we are getting to know the woman behind the pages.

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Speaker 4: Emma talks to me about growing up on Martha's vineyard

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Speaker 4: In today's conversation, Emma talks to me about how she

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Speaker 4: I loved so many things about this conversation, but Emma

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Speaker 3: She's a ray of light.

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Speaker 4: It's not lost on me that many of you already

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Speaker 4: over at Emily a Body. There are tons of actionable

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Speaker 4: July twenty seventh, we are getting together Irl in your

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Speaker 4: Life for a Hurdler Huddle. It's an opportunity for podcast

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Speaker 3: Today.

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Speaker 2: How you doing, I'm great, Thanks for having me, Emily.

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Speaker 4: You're a ray of sunshine in here today with your

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's so valuable to have this understanding that being

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Speaker 4: Everyone's going through something that you don't know anything about.

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Speaker 1: then maybe you're like, but I didn't like that. No, no, no,

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Speaker 1: I liked it.

443
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Speaker 2: I liked it so much. And I was like, Dave,

444
00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:02,160
Speaker 2: thank you for cooking dinner. Thank you. I'm so glad

445
00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:03,080
Speaker 2: that I asked for what I needed.

446
00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:05,040
Speaker 1: I'm so glad that you gave that to me and

447
00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:08,520
Speaker 1: that and then I received it, you know, because sometimes

448
00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:11,439
Speaker 1: we're complicated, We're really complicated. So yeah, I think like

449
00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:14,680
Speaker 1: during the tour, just like having stepping into a new

450
00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:17,960
Speaker 1: dynamic with my partner throughout that because it was a

451
00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:22,520
Speaker 1: very non traditional way of us operating, like traveling from

452
00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:26,080
Speaker 1: city to city, figuring out home logistics. We have two

453
00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:30,600
Speaker 1: cats figuring out who's going to feed them. So that

454
00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:33,240
Speaker 1: was an interesting thing that I had to navigate that

455
00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:36,199
Speaker 1: I wasn't even thinking about, like career wise, just like

456
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Speaker 1: my relationship.

457
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Speaker 4: And what I'm hearing you say also is the importance

458
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Speaker 4: of really great communication and also recognizing that it's okay

459
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Speaker 4: to ask for something, receive it, and then maybe recommunicate

460
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Speaker 4: or pivot a little bit so that both people can

461
00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:56,080
Speaker 4: be happy moving forward. That is something that so often

462
00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:58,760
Speaker 4: you're like, well, I went out of my comfort zone

463
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Speaker 4: at this point to ask for it. So how dare

464
00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:04,600
Speaker 4: I ask for something else but the right person. There's

465
00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:09,720
Speaker 4: no such thing as over communicating or adjusting your expectations

466
00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:11,639
Speaker 4: so that you two can be happier together.

467
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Speaker 3: Yes, hard stop.

468
00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:17,600
Speaker 4: Yes, Yeah, you said before that sometimes these opportunities are

469
00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:20,119
Speaker 4: all about being at the right place, right time. No

470
00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:22,560
Speaker 4: one will question you on that. For you being at

471
00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:25,119
Speaker 4: the right place at the right time. Was booking that

472
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Speaker 4: Kickstarter campaign with Peloton in twenty twelve. Talk to us

473
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Speaker 4: a little bit about that and how ultimately that opportunity

474
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Speaker 4: landed you at the company five years later.

475
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Speaker 1: Yes, I was new to fitness modeling. I just got

476
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Speaker 1: with an agency, and so I was going on these

477
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Speaker 1: casting calls for Nike, under Armor, Athleta, all these places.

478
00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:49,000
Speaker 1: And my agent called me one day and he was like, Hey,

479
00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:51,640
Speaker 1: like this odd request came in from a company I've

480
00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:55,439
Speaker 1: never heard of, but this brand, Peloton, is shooting a

481
00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:58,760
Speaker 1: Kickstarter campaign and they want to hire you as a

482
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Speaker 1: model slash actor for their ad. And I was like, okay,

483
00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:05,439
Speaker 1: looks interesting. Also never heard of the brand, but I

484
00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:06,000
Speaker 1: showed up.

485
00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:07,800
Speaker 2: I did you know? It was like a half day shoot.

486
00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:10,960
Speaker 1: It was a video shoot and the small team you know,

487
00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:13,880
Speaker 1: John Foley, the CEO at the time, like he was there,

488
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Speaker 1: his wife, very small team, and I came in and

489
00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:19,399
Speaker 1: I shot the video and you know it was like

490
00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:22,480
Speaker 1: they were lovely, they were really nice people, and I

491
00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:23,760
Speaker 1: was like, best of luck, good luck to.

492
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Speaker 2: You guys, you know, at the end of the day.

493
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Speaker 1: And not knowing that that was totally the introduction to

494
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Speaker 1: Peloton and my life you know, as a Peloton instructor

495
00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:37,560
Speaker 1: years later. So after that ad I went on to

496
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Speaker 1: teach fitness at a few other places, cycling, pilates, personal training,

497
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Speaker 1: and then I was just sort of watching Peloton grow,

498
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Speaker 1: you know, I was friends with them on face or

499
00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:50,680
Speaker 1: followed them on Facebook, so seeing all the you know,

500
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Speaker 1: the media, the press that they were getting, and so

501
00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:55,760
Speaker 1: I just and I write about this in my book

502
00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:59,520
Speaker 1: because Dave was like, why don't you email John Foley

503
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Speaker 1: and ask for a job.

504
00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:02,080
Speaker 2: And I was like, what are you kidding me? I'm

505
00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:04,080
Speaker 2: not just going to email the CEO, like you're crazy,

506
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:06,600
Speaker 2: But I took his advice.

507
00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:08,480
Speaker 1: And I emailed him and he wrote back right away

508
00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:09,919
Speaker 1: and he's like, I'm gonna put you in touch with

509
00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:13,679
Speaker 1: Robin Head instructor. You know, one thing led to the next,

510
00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:17,320
Speaker 1: and you know, I guess that was six years ago.

511
00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:21,639
Speaker 1: I was instructor number eleven or twelve. And it's just

512
00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:27,560
Speaker 1: crazy how all these small opportunities can just lead its

513
00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:29,879
Speaker 1: way into you know, where we are. It's just a

514
00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:32,800
Speaker 1: bunch of decisions that we're making a bunch of choices

515
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:34,920
Speaker 1: that we're making along the way, saying yes to things

516
00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:37,239
Speaker 1: no to other things that you know, and I think

517
00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:38,800
Speaker 1: about those like what if I had said no to that?

518
00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:40,400
Speaker 1: What if I had said yes to this other thing.

519
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Speaker 1: It's really it's really wild.

520
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Speaker 3: Did you know Robin before he introduced you? Again? No,

521
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Speaker 3: you hadn't met her.

522
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Speaker 2: I never.

523
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Speaker 4: I think that's something that we don't talk about often,

524
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:52,760
Speaker 4: is that, like we're kind of inside baseball in New

525
00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:55,240
Speaker 4: York being that, especially when you're working in the health

526
00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:58,639
Speaker 4: and wellness community in any capacity, there's so much crossover.

527
00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:01,800
Speaker 4: So you did have crossover previously with other people at

528
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Speaker 4: the time.

529
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Speaker 1: Yeah, So Cody Rigsby and I used to back up

530
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Speaker 1: dance together. Ali Love and I used to dance together.

531
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Speaker 1: Jess King and I used to dance together. So I

532
00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:12,200
Speaker 1: knew a lot of the instructors when I was watching them.

533
00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:15,360
Speaker 1: I even remember, you know, Ali, because she started about

534
00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:17,560
Speaker 1: a year before me, and so I remember running into

535
00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:19,000
Speaker 1: her and she told me. She was like, hey, I

536
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:22,040
Speaker 1: just I'm going to start working at this place Peloton.

537
00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:24,320
Speaker 1: I was like, oh cool, you know. I remember her

538
00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:26,960
Speaker 1: telling me about that and sort of watching their journey,

539
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:29,919
Speaker 1: and so it was really fun. When I came in

540
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Speaker 1: for my audition, I ran into Cody.

541
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Speaker 2: He didn't know I was going to be there, and

542
00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:33,840
Speaker 2: he was like, oh my god.

543
00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:36,399
Speaker 1: He just like dragged me around and introduced me to

544
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Speaker 1: everybody in the building like he was my hype man.

545
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:41,680
Speaker 1: He was like, you guys have to hire her. I

546
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:43,399
Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, can you follow me to

547
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:44,960
Speaker 1: every job interview?

548
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Speaker 3: Oh my god. I love it.

549
00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:49,080
Speaker 4: We all need a Cody in our in our back pocket.

550
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Speaker 4: I also love what you said about garnering the courage

551
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Speaker 4: to send the email, something that can be so difficult. Obviously,

552
00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:00,320
Speaker 4: using the phrase and the email can also apply to

553
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:02,560
Speaker 4: so many other different things. How do you garner the

554
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:05,439
Speaker 4: courage to show up to hard moments and kind of

555
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:07,000
Speaker 4: be your own biggest type man?

556
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:11,000
Speaker 1: I think of Wayne Gretzky, You miss one hundred percent

557
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:13,160
Speaker 1: of the shops that you don't take. I literally think

558
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:14,919
Speaker 1: about that because I'm like, what's the worst that's going

559
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:16,600
Speaker 1: to happen? You know what's going to happen if you

560
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:19,080
Speaker 1: do nothing nothing? What happens when you do nothing is

561
00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:22,080
Speaker 1: nothing happens. So you gotta do something right. You can't

562
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:23,919
Speaker 1: just like sit around and wait for your opportunity to

563
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:25,760
Speaker 1: just knock down your door, like, you have to put

564
00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:28,360
Speaker 1: yourself out there in some way. And I'm a huge

565
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:30,800
Speaker 1: advocate for stepping outside of your comfort zone, hence me

566
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:34,280
Speaker 1: writing this whole book. If it scares you a little bit, like,

567
00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:36,080
Speaker 1: get curious about it, lean it, look at it a

568
00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:38,280
Speaker 1: little bit. If it scares you, don't just run away

569
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:41,080
Speaker 1: first thing. I guess that kind of goes against our

570
00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:43,840
Speaker 1: fight or flight instincts, which are important to have. There

571
00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:46,440
Speaker 1: are you know, for safety reasons. There are reasons why

572
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:48,080
Speaker 1: you need to like run away if a bear's coming

573
00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:51,560
Speaker 1: at you. But for these instances, I think it's like,

574
00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:53,159
Speaker 1: if it scares you a little bit, like sit in

575
00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:55,639
Speaker 1: it and just like see why, and then what's the

576
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:57,320
Speaker 1: worst thing that's going to happen? Are you going to

577
00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:01,600
Speaker 1: feel silly? Nobody responds to you. There's even people who

578
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,240
Speaker 1: have reached out to me that like I meant to

579
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:06,200
Speaker 1: email them, but then I forgot, and then they send

580
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 1: their second email and I'm like, oh, thank you for

581
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,879
Speaker 1: writing back. It's like, send the second email too, you know,

582
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:11,639
Speaker 1: why not?

583
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:12,679
Speaker 3: Why not?

584
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,160
Speaker 4: The worst thing that can happen most of the time

585
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:18,400
Speaker 4: is that you're exactly where you started. Yeah, usually where

586
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:21,480
Speaker 4: you're starting isn't all that bad to begin with. Totally, totally.

587
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:25,240
Speaker 4: I also appreciate you saying and talking about being such

588
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 4: a huge fan for stepping out of your comfort zone.

589
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:33,160
Speaker 4: Do you feel like your tenacity, your resiliency was instilled

590
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:35,800
Speaker 4: in you from a young age or is that learned behavior.

591
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:37,720
Speaker 2: I think a little bit of both.

592
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 1: I think definitely watching my parents, they were doers. They

593
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:42,960
Speaker 1: were like, let's figure this out.

594
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Speaker 2: My dad.

595
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Speaker 1: I mean, this is I'm thinking, like this is before YouTube, right,

596
00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:49,080
Speaker 1: and my dad's like, I'm going to build us a

597
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:51,320
Speaker 1: new kitchen or like renovate our bathroom, and.

598
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:53,359
Speaker 2: Like he had no idea what he was doing, but

599
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:55,680
Speaker 2: he figured it out. He asked his brothers who came.

600
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Speaker 1: I remember them like working on our bathroom and I'm

601
00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:01,160
Speaker 1: like eight years old and they're just figuring, like plumbing

602
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:02,640
Speaker 1: out and like, I don't know how they did it,

603
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:04,919
Speaker 1: but they would just figure stuff out. They would build it.

604
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:08,640
Speaker 1: They would just my parents, you know, worked on their house.

605
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 1: They built a garden in the back Actually when my

606
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:14,320
Speaker 1: parents bought their house. They bought their house on Martha's

607
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:17,479
Speaker 1: Vineyard in the eighties for forty thousand dollars.

608
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 3: Jesus, how different now.

609
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:22,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, and totally and they I mean, they couldn't even

610
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 1: afford the they had to get alan and all this stuff.

611
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:27,240
Speaker 1: But there was this really crappy pool in the backyard

612
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:29,560
Speaker 1: that they just filled in with dirt and that made

613
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 1: that their garden because when you walked out of the house,

614
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:33,960
Speaker 1: it went like straight into the pool. And they're like,

615
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:35,800
Speaker 1: we have kids, like this is does not make sense.

616
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 1: So anyway, that's what our backyard was. And I just,

617
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 1: I guess I really watched them figure it out. My

618
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 1: mom is an immigrant, she's from Taiwan, she moved to

619
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Speaker 1: the States. She was just really resilient. She made things

620
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 1: work and even when they weren't working, they made they

621
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 1: figured it out. And so I definitely learned that. And

622
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 1: then I think also my curiosity for getting out of

623
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Speaker 1: my comfort zone probably was learned a lot too for

624
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 1: my older brother, and just even in a physical sense

625
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 1: he was he loves extreme sports and just like pushing

626
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 1: himself like he's an excellent surfer. He took me rock

627
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 1: climbing for the first time, surfing for the first time.

628
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:17,720
Speaker 1: We did a surf trip together in Bali in Indonesia

629
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Speaker 1: for a month when I was like twenty years old.

630
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 1: I just like really watched my brother kind of push

631
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:26,640
Speaker 1: himself like he was an amazing cyclist.

632
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:28,040
Speaker 2: Actually he competed.

633
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 1: In college, and so I think it was a combination

634
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 1: of just really like watching the people around me.

635
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:39,600
Speaker 4: Do Yeah, do you have any regrets about perhaps a

636
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:42,479
Speaker 4: moment where you didn't quote unquote send the email that

637
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 4: you reflect on?

638
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:48,000
Speaker 1: Not really, I try not, And even if I did,

639
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 1: I think I probably like subconsciously erased it for my

640
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 1: brain because I hate living in regret. I hate living

641
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 1: in like fomo and like, well what if I you know,

642
00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:00,040
Speaker 1: it's like I kind of just like move on to

643
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 1: the next because if you spend all this time dwelling

644
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 1: on like I could have done it differently, it's really hurtful.

645
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 1: It hurts to think that way. So yeah, I do

646
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 1: I do my best at like not trying to dwell

647
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 1: on those things. But I'm sure there are things that

648
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:17,200
Speaker 1: I've thought about for a long time that I'm like

649
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:19,720
Speaker 1: I should have done or even like dance auditions, I

650
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 1: should have done.

651
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 2: The double turn instead of the single turn. I don't know.

652
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:26,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I totally hear you. So where were you

653
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:29,960
Speaker 3: when you got the peloton call? Oh?

654
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:35,120
Speaker 1: So well, Dave and I were living in California for

655
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Speaker 1: a short stint. We were there for maybe eight months.

656
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:41,400
Speaker 1: I was a personal trainer at Facebook. Actually I was

657
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Speaker 1: training all of their employees, and.

658
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Speaker 3: Duck is pretty fit these days.

659
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:50,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was not one of my clients, so I

660
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Speaker 2: can say that I never trained him.

661
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Speaker 4: I'm like, I literally was listening to a podcast and

662
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Speaker 4: they were talking about how there's something going on where

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Speaker 4: Elon Muskins Zoka.

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Speaker 2: Yes, is that? What is that for real?

665
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 3: I didn't know. Is it really for real?

666
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 4: But I don't even think Elon could do like twelve

667
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 4: pushups and you paid him?

668
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 3: No anyways, continue, Yeah, I.

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Speaker 1: Will not be watching that unless somebody, you know, shares

670
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 1: a clip on like TikTok or something.

671
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I was teaching there. Didn't love it.

672
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 1: I was also personal training at another place as well,

673
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 1: and I was just like struggling, just not making a

674
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 1: lot of money and also like not feeling very fulfilled,

675
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 1: and I was trying to look for, you know, the

676
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 1: next thing. And so that's when Dave was like, why

677
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:34,640
Speaker 1: don't you send this email. Dave also at the same

678
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 1: time got a job opportunity back in New York and

679
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 1: he had like a confirmed opportunity. He's like, well, we

680
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 1: could go back and I could do this. And I

681
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 1: was starting the interview process at Peloton, but I didn't

682
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 1: have confirmation that I had the job. When Dave and

683
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 1: I actually started, we started driving back to New York City,

684
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 1: and I was like, listen, you got a job opportunity.

685
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Speaker 1: I'm like halfway with a job opportunity, and if I

686
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 1: don't get it, I could still teach at a million

687
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:05,280
Speaker 1: other fitness studios in New York City. So I kind

688
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 1: of took a leap of faith in that too, where

689
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 1: I'm like, I feel like I'm going to get the job,

690
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:09,640
Speaker 1: but I don't know.

691
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 2: And so it was.

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Speaker 1: Somewhere on our drive back, and I don't remember. We're

693
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 1: probably like driving through like Nebraska or some very flat state.

694
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:22,320
Speaker 2: And then you know, figure found out that I.

695
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 1: Had actually gotten it, and it was pretty cool that

696
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 1: I was like, see this is all working out in

697
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 1: the way. You know, you got a job opportunity. I

698
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 1: have one now too, Like, let's let's do it.

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Speaker 3: The world works man in.

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Speaker 4: That way, when you start to act in such a

723
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 4: way that you're setting yourself up for a certain circumstance

724
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 4: and you walk into your power, you will be rewarded

725
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 4: with the energy that you're putting out into the world.

726
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:15,840
Speaker 4: So for you to take that leap of faith, so

727
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 4: to speak, and start that drive, yep, I'm not surprised

728
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:21,840
Speaker 4: that that's what happened for you, right, yeah.

729
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Speaker 1: Right, But I definitely am. I'm somebody who like I

730
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 1: always have a plan, B Like I'm I'm just that way,

731
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 1: And sometimes I wish I wasn't that way, but I'm

732
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:31,719
Speaker 1: always like ready for like the other shoe to drop

733
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Speaker 1: or like the thing to not work out, but I'm

734
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Speaker 1: like it's okay, I'm prepared. I'm ready, like I have

735
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Speaker 1: this other plan, And so I think that's how I

736
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Speaker 1: have gotten through my life is just always being like

737
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Speaker 1: I'm going to go for it. But I also have

738
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Speaker 1: really thought this out that if I don't get it,

739
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 1: here's my plan B.

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Speaker 3: You're speaking to my soul.

741
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 4: And that's something I talk to my life coach a

742
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 4: lot about because I want to be all in on

743
00:34:55,160 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 4: Plan A, but I am mentally uncapable, incapable of not

744
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:01,279
Speaker 4: having a plan BA.

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00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if that's just like being a woman

747
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 1: or like, I don't know, but I just feel or

748
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 1: I learned that from my parents. I feel like my

749
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:09,759
Speaker 1: mom like kind of installed that in me.

750
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Speaker 2: But I don't know. I've definitely always been that way.

751
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 4: One of my first interviews on the show, this guy

752
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:17,440
Speaker 4: named Fred Santarpia who used to be the chief Digital

753
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:20,720
Speaker 4: officer at Conde Nast. He said something that I always

754
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 4: bring up time after time, which is if you don't

755
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 4: have a Plan B, then you don't have a plan.

756
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 3: That really stuck with me.

757
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:29,839
Speaker 2: So there's another you know, successful person.

758
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Speaker 3: In your adult life.

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Speaker 4: Peloton was one of the first jobs then that offered

760
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 4: you a lot of stability.

761
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:40,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, how did that feel?

762
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I I have a four to oh one K.

763
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Speaker 1: That was my first time ever having a four to

764
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 1: one K. Truly, it was in first I'm having a salary.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Really, like I'd been a freelancer my whole life for

767
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:56,240
Speaker 1: somebody who actually like thrives off of stability, it's amazing

768
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:58,879
Speaker 1: and I can't believe and I'm proud of myself how

769
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Speaker 1: long I was a free life answer and was able

770
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 1: to like mentally and emotionally get through that because I

771
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:08,359
Speaker 1: swear as a freelancer, you're like, as soon as you're like, okay,

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Speaker 1: I'm finally in a book a vacation, it's going to

773
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:12,840
Speaker 1: be so hard because I'm going to be spending my

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00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:15,920
Speaker 1: money and not making money when I go away, and

775
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 1: then you get a call that's like, hey, we need

776
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:20,800
Speaker 1: you here for this job, so you cancel your vacation

777
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 1: because you're like, nope, I got it. It's almost I'm

778
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:26,360
Speaker 1: telling you, nine times out of ten, every time I

779
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:28,239
Speaker 1: would book a vacation, I would book a job. So

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00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:29,839
Speaker 1: then I started making the joke that was like, maybe

781
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 1: I just need to book more vacation so that I

782
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 1: can book work.

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Speaker 3: Energy attracts like energy, ima, right.

784
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:39,799
Speaker 1: But then like now knowing that I can go away

785
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Speaker 1: on vacation and I have like PTO and I get

786
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:45,320
Speaker 1: paid and I'm can like I can really relax on vacation.

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Speaker 2: It's amazing.

788
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 1: So like I understand, like I love hustle. I understand hustle,

789
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:54,960
Speaker 1: but I also really appreciate it and it makes sense for

790
00:36:55,040 --> 00:37:00,080
Speaker 1: my personality that I feel so much more calm and

791
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:01,720
Speaker 1: went with stability in my life.

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00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:04,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, to each their own right to be able to

793
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:08,399
Speaker 4: know what feels better for you. For those that are

794
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 4: gig economy workers contractors, what would you say was a

795
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:17,880
Speaker 4: tool or a tactic that you incorporated regularly that enabled

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00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 4: you to thrive to the best of your ability during

797
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:22,280
Speaker 4: that time period of your life.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really work very hard when you're working, and

799
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:29,359
Speaker 1: then like do your best to unplug and relax and

800
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:32,840
Speaker 1: know that you deserve that relaxation. And just like so,

801
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 1: then when I would finally towards the end of my freelancing,

802
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 1: you know time, if I were to take it, as

803
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 1: long as the job wasn't some like huge life changing thing,

804
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 1: I'd be like, no, I'm going to say no to

805
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 1: the job. I'm going to go away. I booked this

806
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 1: for myself. I deserve this, I need this time off.

807
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:48,279
Speaker 1: I'm going to turn my phone off and try to

808
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 1: just like enjoy myself and that was really hard, but

809
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 1: I think that was my focus and that's how I

810
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:57,360
Speaker 1: made sense of it all. Is like, when I'm working,

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Speaker 1: I'm really working, I'm really available, I'm going to bust

812
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:03,400
Speaker 1: my butt. But when I'm offline, like I'm really I

813
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 1: need to just be offline and tune in with myself co.

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Speaker 3: Sign with that.

815
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Speaker 4: I also feel as though something that really resonated with

816
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 4: me through the pandemic and now post pandemic is this

817
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 4: concept of one thing at a time. So I'm going

818
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 4: to give my whole energy to the thing that I'm

819
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 4: working on in that moment where pre pandemic, if I

820
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 4: think about Emily the og entrepreneur, I was doing like

821
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 4: four things at the same time, every single day for

822
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 4: eight hours on end. So now like as one would

823
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Speaker 4: hope recording a podcast, I am here in this room

824
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Speaker 4: and this is what we are doing, and this is

825
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 4: entirely where my head is at. I am completely where

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Speaker 4: my feet are, which I do think is something that

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Speaker 4: many people struggle with. So then to take that tip

828
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Speaker 4: and top a tip on top of that, add a

829
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Speaker 4: tip on top of that, add a tip on top

830
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Speaker 4: of that, how would you recommend someone gets better at

831
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Speaker 4: being more present and being really our feet are.

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Speaker 3: Oh.

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00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:04,799
Speaker 1: I mean, there's so many, you know, like mindful exercises

834
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Speaker 1: that you can do of Like I think I was

835
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 1: actually listening to an interview with Jewel, the singer, and

836
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:14,239
Speaker 1: she was talking about like looking at your hands when

837
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 1: you when you're feeling like scattered or chaotic and your

838
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 1: energies all over the place.

839
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 2: It's like really.

840
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:22,319
Speaker 1: Looking at your hands and it like reminds you that

841
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:26,239
Speaker 1: you're here. Feeling your feet on the ground literally, like

842
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 1: taking your shoes up, put your feet in the grass,

843
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 1: like whatever it is, like feel feel the space that

844
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 1: you are really in. But you know, also, like let's

845
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:38,719
Speaker 1: talk about exercise for your mental health benefits and not

846
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:39,879
Speaker 1: just physical, but.

847
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 2: Exercise helps you.

848
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:44,799
Speaker 1: Feel more in your body, and I think we need

849
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 1: to feel more in our body to feel more grounded.

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Speaker 1: So there's so many things that I think we can do,

851
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 1: these little little exercises that we can do throughout the

852
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 1: day that help us feel more grounded. Talk, therapy, exercise,

853
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:01,320
Speaker 1: all the things life coat which whatever it is, but

854
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 1: explore and find the thing that works for you.

855
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 3: How do you feel in your body these days?

856
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:09,279
Speaker 1: How do I feel in my I mean like good

857
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 1: or bad or like like what do I do?

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00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 4: I mean, how do you emma feel in your body

859
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:18,920
Speaker 4: these days? What's your relationship like with your body these days?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:25,160
Speaker 1: I mean I'm definitely aware of I'm aging and I

862
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 1: can't help, you know. And I'm like on a group

863
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:29,440
Speaker 1: chat with my girlfriends and we're like, gosh, like I

864
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:31,839
Speaker 1: have like wrinkles on my chest when I wake up?

865
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Speaker 2: What is that?

866
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Speaker 4: You know?

867
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Speaker 1: Like these like things that were like damn or like

868
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Speaker 1: skincare me whatever.

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Speaker 2: But I'm trying to just be like I.

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Speaker 1: Don't you know, I subscribe to like you are as

871
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:48,240
Speaker 1: old as you feel you are, and also like age

872
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:51,840
Speaker 1: doesn't define you. And there's so many ways in which

873
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 1: like actually, when Dave and I were just in Italy,

874
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:58,000
Speaker 1: there was this cute, uh these two girls that were

875
00:40:58,040 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 1: probably like nineteen or twenty years old, and I was

876
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:02,960
Speaker 1: talking to them and they made me laugh so hard

877
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:04,719
Speaker 1: because they were like, did you guys, how long have

878
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 1: you been together? I was like, David, I've been together

879
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:08,400
Speaker 1: for like ten years and they were like, so did

880
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Speaker 1: you meet like before college?

881
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:11,920
Speaker 2: And I was like, huh, Like I could tell that

882
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 2: they were.

883
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:15,239
Speaker 1: Like not able to pick up on my age, and

884
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:17,719
Speaker 1: so finally they were like, wait, how old are you.

885
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm in my late thirties, and they were like,

886
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 2: oh my god, we thought you were twenty five.

887
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:23,319
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, girls, tell me more, you know,

888
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:26,440
Speaker 1: And I couldn't help but like think it was hilarious

889
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:29,920
Speaker 1: and so cute. But I am also trying not to

890
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:33,440
Speaker 1: like shame myself for aging because we all age, and

891
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 1: it's like, I'm still doing the things that I would

892
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:39,800
Speaker 1: have been doing like at thirty, and I still feel

893
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:42,839
Speaker 1: amazing being able to do the things, like I am

894
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:45,400
Speaker 1: still an athlete. I am still pushing my body on

895
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 1: a date weekly basis, and I feel really good doing that.

896
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:52,360
Speaker 1: But I am just like it's okay to notice in

897
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:55,680
Speaker 1: the ways that I'm changing and like accommodate those changes

898
00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:57,920
Speaker 1: because I'm not in denial about it. I'm not just

899
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:00,279
Speaker 1: gonna like there are some ways that I definitely you know,

900
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 1: when I was in my twenties, I was a bartender,

901
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 1: and so I was like out till six am all

902
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 1: the time, and I cannot tell you the last time

903
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:09,040
Speaker 1: I was up.

904
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 4: Until six I know, literally actually capable of telling.

905
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 2: I cannot tell you I have no idea.

906
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 3: Recking my brain. Don't have it.

907
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:18,239
Speaker 2: No, I don't have it at all.

908
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 4: But I really appreciate what you're saying here, which is

909
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:25,440
Speaker 4: the importance of Greece. And also like you can recognize it.

910
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 4: You may feel some kind of way about it, but

911
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:30,799
Speaker 4: you can have the grease with yourself to act accordingly

912
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:33,480
Speaker 4: in a way that is kind to you, kind to

913
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 4: your body, kind to your mental health.

914
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 3: Because life's hard enough as it is.

915
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 4: Spot on, Yeah, you know, like the last thing that

916
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 4: we need every day is for us to be the

917
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 4: person that's talking down to ourselves, especially because you are

918
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 4: the person that talks to yourself most in any given.

919
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:49,839
Speaker 1: Day, totally, and that's why that relationship with yourself is

920
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:50,960
Speaker 1: the most important.

921
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 4: How has the relationship that you've had with yourself evolved

922
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:59,440
Speaker 4: since taking this job at Peloton, knowing that understandably so

923
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 4: there are more eyes on you now than there used

924
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:02,400
Speaker 4: to be.

925
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the first thing that just came to

926
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:10,840
Speaker 1: my head was how, like, especially working in wellness, like

927
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 1: we know all the tips, right, we know, like the

928
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 1: morning routine, the like drink water for something, like all

929
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:18,440
Speaker 1: these tips that I spew out, and like we know

930
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:20,239
Speaker 1: them and I hear them from so many people, and

931
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:22,359
Speaker 1: I'm like, that makes sense, that makes sense, But like

932
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:30,080
Speaker 1: actually doing them sometimes is different than just speaking them.

933
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 2: Like actually, like I know that.

934
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 1: I feel better when I'm meditating. Meditation is the first

935
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:40,799
Speaker 1: thing that I throw out the door if I don't

936
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 1: have time, but I know how helpful it is. So

937
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:46,760
Speaker 1: like here I am, and I can like preach, preach, preach,

938
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:48,840
Speaker 1: but like if I'm not doing them, and I know

939
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:50,880
Speaker 1: that they work, I know that these things work. So

940
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:53,920
Speaker 1: I'm just being brutally honest right now and saying that,

941
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 1: like there are times where I totally fall off of

942
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 1: my like you know, wellness routine and all the things

943
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 1: that I talk about. I know that they work. So

944
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:04,239
Speaker 1: I'm not questioning whether or not they're good. I'm just

945
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:06,799
Speaker 1: questioning or not whether whether or not like how much

946
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 1: I prioritize them. And I think my priorities start to

947
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 1: shift a little bit, right and like with a more

948
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 1: high pressure job or more eyes on me, Like what

949
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 1: are the things that I'm you know, I think and this.

950
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:22,480
Speaker 1: You know, I don't have kids, but I think a

951
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:24,400
Speaker 1: lot of people say, like when you have kids, like

952
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 1: it really holds you honest because you have people really

953
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:29,799
Speaker 1: watching you in real time. Like on Instagram, I can

954
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:31,960
Speaker 1: post photos of me meditating. I don't, by the way,

955
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:36,279
Speaker 1: because that would be so boring. But I could post

956
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:38,440
Speaker 1: pictures of me meditating and be like, meditation is good

957
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:39,760
Speaker 1: for you, But am I really meditating?

958
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:40,480
Speaker 2: No, I forget.

959
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 1: I don't do it as much as I want to.

960
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:44,720
Speaker 1: And so I think, yeah, when you have kids, they're like, no,

961
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:46,880
Speaker 1: you you tell me to get off my phone, but

962
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 1: you're on your phone, you know, like it really keeps

963
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 1: you honest. And so I think about that as like

964
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 1: the busier I get, the more things that I have

965
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:57,719
Speaker 1: going on in my life, the more followers I have

966
00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:02,799
Speaker 1: on Instagram, this like image of wellness and my opinions

967
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 1: about it are.

968
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 2: You know, I really believe.

969
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 1: In what I believe, but it also takes another element

970
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 1: to really commit to them, because if I am not

971
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:17,640
Speaker 1: taking care of myself, I'm not gonna It's not sustainable,

972
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 1: Like I can't I can't help other people if I'm

973
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 1: not helping myself. So when I do get when I

974
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 1: instruct and the one way that I feel like I'm

975
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:28,319
Speaker 1: able to connect with so many people through you know,

976
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:31,799
Speaker 1: virtually through teaching fitness is being really honest, and I

977
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 1: think I try to be authentic to myself. I try

978
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 1: to be as honest about like, hey, I've totally fallen

979
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:37,799
Speaker 1: off my routine. I'm going to try to get back

980
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 1: on it.

981
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:38,920
Speaker 3: I think it's.

982
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:41,920
Speaker 1: Relatable for people to hear that that me too, cannot

983
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:46,960
Speaker 1: be prioritizing the things that I should be prioritizing. But

984
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 1: I just I do think about that as more eyes

985
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:53,840
Speaker 1: are on me. It's like I want to promote good things,

986
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 1: but I also want to be honest.

987
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:57,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think there's value in both.

988
00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:03,240
Speaker 4: Again that authenticity is truly just, it's irreplaceable. And also

989
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:07,400
Speaker 4: knowing that you for your mental health, you're not alone.

990
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 4: Also in the fact that you're falling off the bandwagon,

991
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:12,960
Speaker 4: like your gurus have gurus. Yes, And I think that

992
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 4: oftentimes when you are someone that people look up to,

993
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:20,759
Speaker 4: which you are, those people forget that you also need

994
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:23,960
Speaker 4: someone to look up to, like you also need support

995
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:27,200
Speaker 4: and care and concern and time for yourself and all

996
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:29,120
Speaker 4: of these things, right, so that you can show up

997
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 4: and be the best version of you every single day.

998
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:34,360
Speaker 2: My therapist has a therapist, yes.

999
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:38,880
Speaker 4: You know, yeah, thank God, right, my life coach is

1000
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 4: a life coach, I get it. Yeah, So being more

1001
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:45,799
Speaker 4: with all of these extra eyes on you. You have

1002
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:48,759
Speaker 4: over almost six hundred and fifty thousand people following you

1003
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 4: on Instagram, you have a newsletter that has over thirty

1004
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:54,719
Speaker 4: seven thousand subscribers that get notes from you in their

1005
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:58,720
Speaker 4: inbox regularly. They look to you, they see a peloton

1006
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:01,279
Speaker 4: instructor and author and who they may perceive has their

1007
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:01,880
Speaker 4: shit together.

1008
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:04,359
Speaker 3: When you look in the mirror, what is it that

1009
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:05,839
Speaker 3: you see looking back at you.

1010
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:10,719
Speaker 1: I am really proud of myself for what I've accomplished

1011
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:11,759
Speaker 1: so far.

1012
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:13,560
Speaker 2: I am.

1013
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:16,440
Speaker 1: You know, my tagline in my book is progress not perfection,

1014
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:19,239
Speaker 1: because I am a perfectionist. I have been a perfectionist,

1015
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:22,920
Speaker 1: and I still strive for more and I'm like very

1016
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:25,040
Speaker 1: ambitious and I want more and more and more. So

1017
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:28,480
Speaker 1: my focus to me is like, no, no, no, be

1018
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:30,799
Speaker 1: proud of where you are now, Like what what do

1019
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 1: you have now that you didn't have five years ago,

1020
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:36,799
Speaker 1: ten years ago? And really look at how much you

1021
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:40,400
Speaker 1: have already grown. It's the abundance, not the scarcity.

1022
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 2: And I just.

1023
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:47,920
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, I mean, I'm like kind of in

1024
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:51,399
Speaker 1: awe of like where I am now versus from where

1025
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:54,960
Speaker 1: I've come from. Like I would have never thought, as

1026
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:57,120
Speaker 1: like a little kid, that I would be where I

1027
00:47:57,160 --> 00:48:00,680
Speaker 1: am now. And it's pretty cool to to see that,

1028
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 1: and even like talk to my parents who are like,

1029
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 1: you know, who know me the best and who knew

1030
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 1: me as like a little snotty kid, and like now

1031
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:13,240
Speaker 1: I'm you know, inspiring millions of people around the world.

1032
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 1: It's pretty freaking cool.

1033
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:19,000
Speaker 4: Now I'm inspiring millions of people around the world. When

1034
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:21,840
Speaker 4: I say that sentence back to you, aside from being cool,

1035
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:24,400
Speaker 4: how does it make you feel?

1036
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:28,839
Speaker 2: It's hard to grasp honestly, Like what is a million? Right?

1037
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:30,840
Speaker 4: Well, you're like, when did you get to a place

1038
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:33,080
Speaker 4: where like saying that sentence was like actually a sentence

1039
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:34,759
Speaker 4: you could say because there are like things that I

1040
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:36,960
Speaker 4: know to be true about myself. I don't know if

1041
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 4: I'm inspiring millions of people around the world, but I

1042
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 4: do know that there are facts about what I have done,

1043
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:44,440
Speaker 4: what I have created that are true that still feel

1044
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:46,160
Speaker 4: hard for me to say out loud.

1045
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:47,920
Speaker 2: Honestly, Emily, that might have been the first time I've

1046
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:50,680
Speaker 2: ever said that. Who knows.

1047
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 4: I'm here to encourage you and step to step into

1048
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:56,319
Speaker 4: your greatness. I'm here to encourage you to step into

1049
00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:56,960
Speaker 4: your greatness.

1050
00:48:57,320 --> 00:48:59,719
Speaker 1: It is it's crazy and like even just knowing like

1051
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:02,400
Speaker 1: the number of people, right I I was talking to

1052
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:05,400
Speaker 1: somebody about this when you step into like a stadium

1053
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 1: and you know, I went to Fenway to throw the

1054
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:09,799
Speaker 1: first pitch for the Red Sox, which was incredible, but

1055
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 1: there were thirty five thousand people there, and so then

1056
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:17,120
Speaker 1: I look around and I'm like, thirty five thousand people

1057
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:19,920
Speaker 1: take my class in like a day. Like there's like

1058
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:24,000
Speaker 1: times that by you know, ten, there's like three hundred

1059
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:26,040
Speaker 1: thousand people that take my class after like a month.

1060
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:30,880
Speaker 1: I can't wrap my head around that number. I'm sorry,

1061
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:33,360
Speaker 1: Like that's just too many seats.

1062
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:34,440
Speaker 2: That's too many people.

1063
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 4: That many people read your newsletter every time it comes out.

1064
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:40,000
Speaker 3: WHOA is that bizarre?

1065
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:41,040
Speaker 2: It's so bizarre.

1066
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:45,480
Speaker 4: I know, like that many people subscribe to Hurdle on iTunes.

1067
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:48,279
Speaker 4: Like it literally blows my mind when I like sit

1068
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:51,080
Speaker 4: down and like try to actually look at the amount

1069
00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:53,520
Speaker 4: of people, because how often are you in a room

1070
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:56,400
Speaker 4: with thirty five thousand people out by the stadium as

1071
00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:58,360
Speaker 4: a room, but how often are you an environment with

1072
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:00,400
Speaker 4: that amount of people where you can look around and

1073
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:05,640
Speaker 4: be like, holy wowe so special, truly so special. Okay,

1074
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 4: so you're proud of yourself, is what we're what we're

1075
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:09,600
Speaker 4: coming down to you, I mean, and you should be,

1076
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:12,160
Speaker 4: because it really is just such a remarkable accomplishment not

1077
00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:17,160
Speaker 4: only to have turned your passion into what you get

1078
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:19,799
Speaker 4: to do all the time with this job, but then

1079
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:22,920
Speaker 4: make that career into something bigger where you do have

1080
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 4: this opportunity beyond the bike, beyond the mat to inspire

1081
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:28,600
Speaker 4: people in such a bigger way.

1082
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:29,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know.

1083
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:31,960
Speaker 1: There really is two parts of that too that are

1084
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:34,360
Speaker 1: both enjoyable in their own way. Like if I just

1085
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:37,480
Speaker 1: got to teach fitness to I love movement and music together,

1086
00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:40,040
Speaker 1: like as a dancer, as a musician, I've just those two,

1087
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:42,520
Speaker 1: the combination of those two things like bring me joy

1088
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:44,480
Speaker 1: and give me life. And so if I got to

1089
00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:46,920
Speaker 1: just like teach fitness to music, got to move my

1090
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:49,279
Speaker 1: body to music, and nobody saw like.

1091
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:51,120
Speaker 2: That'd be a pretty cool job too, you know.

1092
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:54,200
Speaker 1: But the fact that I get to inspire so many

1093
00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 1: people on top of that that now they get to

1094
00:50:57,280 --> 00:51:02,760
Speaker 1: change lives, right, It's exponential, the change, the positive impact

1095
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:07,120
Speaker 1: is exponential. If somebody has, you know, a doctor, a

1096
00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:10,720
Speaker 1: nurse takes my class and they feel inspired and great,

1097
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:12,839
Speaker 1: then think about how many lives you know that they're

1098
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:17,120
Speaker 1: touching in their line of work. So yeah, the fact

1099
00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 1: that I get to do both of those things at

1100
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:19,719
Speaker 1: the same time, are you kidding me?

1101
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:19,920
Speaker 4: Like?

1102
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:21,040
Speaker 2: How cool?

1103
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:24,400
Speaker 4: You mentioned goals before? What would you say that your

1104
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:25,600
Speaker 4: biggest goal is right now?

1105
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:29,879
Speaker 1: Well, right now after coming off of this book tour,

1106
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:33,080
Speaker 1: I think my goal for the summer especially is to

1107
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:35,440
Speaker 1: do a little bit less, do.

1108
00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:38,759
Speaker 3: Less, do less. What does less look like for you?

1109
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:42,399
Speaker 1: I think it looks like more downtime, more like open

1110
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:44,880
Speaker 1: time on my calendar where there's like nothing scheduled, so

1111
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:48,920
Speaker 1: I could do like a spontaneous trip or spontaneous do nothing.

1112
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:51,440
Speaker 1: I love gardening and I talk about it a lot

1113
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:54,160
Speaker 1: in my book. So just spending more time outside in

1114
00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:57,640
Speaker 1: the garden and spending more time with Dave, and like

1115
00:51:57,960 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 1: just just having.

1116
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:01,759
Speaker 2: More free time. Like I want to be bored, you know.

1117
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:05,720
Speaker 1: I want to not be on my phone all the time.

1118
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:09,640
Speaker 1: I want to like play the piano more, pick up

1119
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:11,719
Speaker 1: a paintbrush. I don't know, I just want to have

1120
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:14,600
Speaker 1: a little more freedom and open time and less stress.

1121
00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:19,280
Speaker 1: So I'm trying to make less plans or more strategic

1122
00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:22,240
Speaker 1: ones so that I'm not just like running around constantly.

1123
00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:25,480
Speaker 4: Sometimes making less plans like you just listed a bunch

1124
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:28,120
Speaker 4: of stuff that you're interested in doing, and sometimes making

1125
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:32,640
Speaker 4: less plans also involves enabling ourselves to do the things

1126
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:35,880
Speaker 4: that we want to do or again, remove that decision fatigue,

1127
00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:38,279
Speaker 4: so those things are actually available to us. So when

1128
00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:40,440
Speaker 4: you say I would like to pick up a paintbrush

1129
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:42,600
Speaker 4: or I want to guarden, more like what can you

1130
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:45,440
Speaker 4: have that is readily available to you so that doing

1131
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:48,000
Speaker 4: those things doesn't feel like such a oh but I

1132
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:49,360
Speaker 4: don't have this or I don't have that, or I

1133
00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:54,000
Speaker 4: need to whatever, right, And it seems so simple, but

1134
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:56,719
Speaker 4: it does involve a little bit of logistics.

1135
00:52:56,840 --> 00:52:57,200
Speaker 2: It does.

1136
00:52:57,400 --> 00:52:58,880
Speaker 1: It does, because yeah, even if I'm like, oh, I'm

1137
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:00,200
Speaker 1: not going to do anything and then you just end

1138
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:02,280
Speaker 1: up sitting on your phone, like that's sometimes you actually

1139
00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:04,440
Speaker 1: have to like schedule in Like I started taking piano

1140
00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:07,359
Speaker 1: lessons a few months ago. That's yeah, I mean it's

1141
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:11,040
Speaker 1: it's a little traumatic because as a kid, I studied

1142
00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:13,040
Speaker 1: piano and so it kind of brings back the like

1143
00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:16,480
Speaker 1: my parents yelling at me that I had to practice

1144
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:19,600
Speaker 1: for thirty minutes every day, and now like my piano

1145
00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:21,440
Speaker 1: teacher will come to my house and I'm.

1146
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:24,279
Speaker 2: Like, shit, I haven't practiced. Like is that feeling when

1147
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:25,759
Speaker 2: you don't have your homework done and you have to

1148
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:26,280
Speaker 2: go to school.

1149
00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:27,240
Speaker 3: It's the worst feeling.

1150
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:29,880
Speaker 1: And now I'm like, okay, but I'm an adult and

1151
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:33,400
Speaker 1: I'm literally paying him to teach me, Like it's okay

1152
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:36,680
Speaker 1: if I didn't practice, like this is fine. But I also, yeah,

1153
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:39,319
Speaker 1: just like making things readily available, like you said, and

1154
00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:41,440
Speaker 1: I mean that's why I keep telling Dave. I'm like,

1155
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:43,480
Speaker 1: I need a crafts room. I want a whole room

1156
00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:45,560
Speaker 1: in my house that's just dedicated to crafts where I

1157
00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:48,600
Speaker 1: can just leave my paints out and like have a

1158
00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:51,120
Speaker 1: sewing machine and all and knitting and like all the

1159
00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:53,319
Speaker 1: weird crafts that I have and so that they're just

1160
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:55,759
Speaker 1: there and ready for me, so they're not like tucked

1161
00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:58,040
Speaker 1: away and hard to get to, tucked away and hard

1162
00:53:58,040 --> 00:54:00,359
Speaker 1: to get Well, we're working on that, the logistic of.

1163
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:03,160
Speaker 3: That, but yeah, it's so impressive. It's so impressive.

1164
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:05,879
Speaker 4: I think I think do Lass is definitely a good

1165
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:08,280
Speaker 4: summer goal for sure, because you know that the second

1166
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:11,880
Speaker 4: fall hits, I feel like everyone is in like overdrive active.

1167
00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:16,320
Speaker 4: Everything is just super hectic. Everyone's back in the office. Yeah,

1168
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:20,799
Speaker 4: I'm down with the do last summer. What else is

1169
00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:22,560
Speaker 4: exciting you right now?

1170
00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:30,280
Speaker 1: I mean more on gardening is just that, like, I'm

1171
00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:32,879
Speaker 1: like growing things that I've never grown before. So every

1172
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:35,720
Speaker 1: time I step into the garden, I'm like, I'm growing

1173
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:38,239
Speaker 1: potatoes for the first time. And so to me that

1174
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:41,400
Speaker 1: seems like or you know, you're listening to this podcast,

1175
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:43,680
Speaker 1: you might be like, Okay, that's not very exciting, em but.

1176
00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:45,800
Speaker 2: To me, that's very exciting.

1177
00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:49,360
Speaker 1: The amount of excitement I get from gardening is maybe unusual,

1178
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:51,640
Speaker 1: but actually, if you garden, then you will relate to this.

1179
00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:53,840
Speaker 1: And you absolutely know every time I step outside and

1180
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:58,160
Speaker 1: see changes, it's very exciting. And actually Dave and I

1181
00:54:58,239 --> 00:55:01,600
Speaker 1: are starting to work on maybe a little renovation on

1182
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:06,120
Speaker 1: our home. And I documented our whole big renovation two

1183
00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:07,560
Speaker 1: years ago when we bought our house. I put it

1184
00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:10,200
Speaker 1: all on YouTube. It was very exciting and cute, and

1185
00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:13,280
Speaker 1: so now we're in the talks of maybe doing another

1186
00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:19,120
Speaker 1: smaller renovation in our home. But that will hopefully start

1187
00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:21,000
Speaker 1: after the summer so I can still have a summer

1188
00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:21,720
Speaker 1: of doing less.

1189
00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:23,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I still have a summer of doing less.

1190
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:26,560
Speaker 4: I'd be remiss if I let you walk out of

1191
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:29,920
Speaker 4: here and I didn't ask you about how it feels

1192
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:32,440
Speaker 4: now that not only the book is out, but the

1193
00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:34,920
Speaker 4: work that goes into creating the book is done.

1194
00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:35,840
Speaker 3: Yeah. I know.

1195
00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:38,880
Speaker 1: That's two different things too, Like totally writing the book.

1196
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:41,279
Speaker 1: The contents of the book is its own thing, the

1197
00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:44,200
Speaker 1: process of its book of writing the book too, and

1198
00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:47,000
Speaker 1: then the promotion of the book is a whole other beast.

1199
00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:49,920
Speaker 1: It's a whole other thing. And I think when I

1200
00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:52,799
Speaker 1: was promoting the book, I kind of lost a little

1201
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:55,040
Speaker 1: bit of touch of like the contents of it because

1202
00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:56,960
Speaker 1: I was so focused on the promotion of it. And

1203
00:55:57,000 --> 00:56:00,000
Speaker 1: so now sitting back that most of the promotion is done,

1204
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:01,880
Speaker 1: and now I'm getting the messages from people who have

1205
00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:05,800
Speaker 1: finished the book and read it, and I'm getting the

1206
00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:09,920
Speaker 1: people and their you know, amazing comments, and the impact

1207
00:56:10,120 --> 00:56:13,240
Speaker 1: of the book is coming out and that's really beautiful,

1208
00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:14,319
Speaker 1: and I think it's bringing me.

1209
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:19,640
Speaker 2: Back to the purpose of the book and the reason

1210
00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:21,600
Speaker 2: why you know, I decided to write it is to

1211
00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:22,800
Speaker 2: inspire people.

1212
00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:27,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, and again going back to this concept that you've

1213
00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:31,120
Speaker 4: already been inspiring, this is just a different avenue to

1214
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:34,640
Speaker 4: go down. And I'm of the mindset that again kind

1215
00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:37,799
Speaker 4: of goes with that send the email, why not why

1216
00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:40,280
Speaker 4: not try here? Why not try there? Why not pivot

1217
00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:42,400
Speaker 4: this way? Because you never know until you give that

1218
00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:42,800
Speaker 4: a whirl.

1219
00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:45,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you have to try it on and

1220
00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:48,080
Speaker 1: see how it feels. If it's three hundred percent scary

1221
00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:50,239
Speaker 1: and you're like absolutely not no, but if it's like

1222
00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:52,600
Speaker 1: fifty percent scary and you're like, but I kind of

1223
00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:54,719
Speaker 1: want to do it, That's how the book was for me.

1224
00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:56,719
Speaker 1: I think it was like I kind of always knew

1225
00:56:56,760 --> 00:56:58,399
Speaker 1: I wanted to write a book, I just didn't know when.

1226
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:01,320
Speaker 1: And so when the opportunity present itself, and I definitely

1227
00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:02,879
Speaker 1: had the thought like is now the right time?

1228
00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:03,440
Speaker 2: I don't know?

1229
00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:06,640
Speaker 1: But then I was like, well, what if now is

1230
00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:09,080
Speaker 1: the only time? Like who's to say, you know, I

1231
00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:11,759
Speaker 1: can write a book in twenty years, I don't know.

1232
00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:15,280
Speaker 4: And just for those that may not understand how it works,

1233
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:17,680
Speaker 4: So when you say that the opportunity presented itself, it

1234
00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:19,040
Speaker 4: means that someone contacted you and.

1235
00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:20,480
Speaker 3: Was like, we'd love to work with you on a book.

1236
00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:21,880
Speaker 3: And You're like, oh, shoot.

1237
00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:25,320
Speaker 1: Yep yeah, And I'm like, you a publisher wants an

1238
00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:29,240
Speaker 1: editor want me to like you see, Like an editor from.

1239
00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:31,000
Speaker 2: Paying in random House called me and was like, you

1240
00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:31,800
Speaker 2: should write a book.

1241
00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:34,440
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, man, if you see that in me?

1242
00:57:35,480 --> 00:57:38,440
Speaker 1: Should I see that in me? Let me look at that.

1243
00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:41,360
Speaker 4: That's really powerful. It's really powerful in that instance. But

1244
00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:44,960
Speaker 4: also that idea, that concept as a whole that oftentimes

1245
00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:48,120
Speaker 4: people around us may be able to recognize or see

1246
00:57:48,200 --> 00:57:51,480
Speaker 4: greatness in us that we aren't necessarily at the point

1247
00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:54,480
Speaker 4: yet we're we're coming to terms with it, or just

1248
00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:57,800
Speaker 4: different characteristics. Even right someone can look at you and say, oh,

1249
00:57:57,840 --> 00:58:00,760
Speaker 4: you're so compassionate. And meanwhile, like an ago you were

1250
00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:03,320
Speaker 4: having a negative self talk session with yourself where you

1251
00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:05,000
Speaker 4: were like, I suck blah blah blah.

1252
00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:06,960
Speaker 1: Isn't that crazy how that can happen In the same day.

1253
00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:10,400
Speaker 1: I was actually just talking to Tunday about this a

1254
00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:12,480
Speaker 1: little different topic and she actually told me that she

1255
00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:14,560
Speaker 1: talked about this in class. So I'm not sharing anything

1256
00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:18,040
Speaker 1: that I'm not supposed to share, but how she was

1257
00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:20,040
Speaker 1: supposed to go on a first date and the guy

1258
00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:22,960
Speaker 1: stood her up, and on her way to the date,

1259
00:58:23,120 --> 00:58:25,600
Speaker 1: She's like, I've never been complimented more in my life.

1260
00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:27,320
Speaker 1: She's like, people were stopping me on the streeting like

1261
00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:29,760
Speaker 1: you are gorgeous, Like oh my god, look at you,

1262
00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:32,720
Speaker 1: You're a goddess. Like all these people like building her up.

1263
00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:35,440
Speaker 1: She gets to the restaurant and then the guy doesn't

1264
00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:35,800
Speaker 1: show up.

1265
00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:36,520
Speaker 3: People suck.

1266
00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:39,720
Speaker 2: People totally suck. Anyway, Tunday's texting me.

1267
00:58:39,800 --> 00:58:41,600
Speaker 1: I'm texting her back and I was like, girl, treat

1268
00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:44,240
Speaker 1: yourself to a just remember like you are. I'm like

1269
00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:47,080
Speaker 1: boosting her up through text just like sending her voice

1270
00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:50,520
Speaker 1: notes being like this guy is a loser, like don't

1271
00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:52,960
Speaker 1: even you know what I'm at facts anyway, but she

1272
00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:55,680
Speaker 1: was like, how odd is it that, like you can have.

1273
00:58:55,600 --> 00:58:58,520
Speaker 2: These two things exist in the same time.

1274
00:58:58,520 --> 00:59:01,080
Speaker 4: All of these compliments and then also someone who doesn't

1275
00:59:01,080 --> 00:59:03,520
Speaker 4: even recognize your greatness. This guy doesn't know what he's

1276
00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:05,960
Speaker 4: messing up missing out on. And also tune today is

1277
00:59:05,960 --> 00:59:06,360
Speaker 4: my neighbor.

1278
00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:08,480
Speaker 3: She knows this. If you're listening to this tune next.

1279
00:59:08,280 --> 00:59:11,040
Speaker 4: Time, text me and we'll I'll come meet you for

1280
00:59:11,080 --> 00:59:11,479
Speaker 4: a drink.

1281
00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:13,040
Speaker 3: Although a solo date.

1282
00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:14,960
Speaker 1: Is my vibe that totally. I have a whole chapter

1283
00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:17,520
Speaker 1: my book about dating yourself. I love taking myself out

1284
00:59:17,560 --> 00:59:20,800
Speaker 1: to dinner, sitting at a noodle bar, at the bar

1285
00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:23,440
Speaker 1: by myself. It's like one of my favorite things to

1286
00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:25,680
Speaker 1: do because it is a little uncomfortable at first, but

1287
00:59:25,720 --> 00:59:28,040
Speaker 1: then you're like, no, like I get to hang out

1288
00:59:28,040 --> 00:59:29,760
Speaker 1: with me, Like that's awesome.

1289
00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:31,680
Speaker 3: As we wind down here, then let me ask you

1290
00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:32,200
Speaker 3: about that.

1291
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:35,760
Speaker 4: So, for someone who doesn't yet feel comfortable dating themselves,

1292
00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:36,640
Speaker 4: how do they get there?

1293
00:59:37,560 --> 00:59:40,680
Speaker 2: Do it well? Uncomfortable? Just do it? Do it well?

1294
00:59:40,720 --> 00:59:42,760
Speaker 1: Afraid you know, it's like maybe you have to stare

1295
00:59:42,760 --> 00:59:44,360
Speaker 1: at your phone a little bit. Try to stare at

1296
00:59:44,400 --> 00:59:48,160
Speaker 1: your phone a little less the next time. But your

1297
00:59:48,280 --> 00:59:50,680
Speaker 1: relationship with yourself is the most important one that you have.

1298
00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:54,240
Speaker 1: And if you can be at peace with yourself, like

1299
00:59:55,640 --> 00:59:56,040
Speaker 1: there's no.

1300
00:59:56,040 --> 00:59:57,920
Speaker 3: Limit, there's no limit, there's no limit.

1301
00:59:58,360 --> 01:00:01,840
Speaker 4: All right right now, Emma, you have an opportunity to

1302
01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:04,480
Speaker 4: give yourself a piece of advice. Let's go back to

1303
01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:07,919
Speaker 4: let's say the hurdle moment time in your life. You're

1304
01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:10,200
Speaker 4: a contractor, you're trying to figure it out, you're training

1305
01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:12,200
Speaker 4: at Facebook, you're like, Eh, this isn't the move.

1306
01:00:12,680 --> 01:00:13,680
Speaker 3: What am I going to do here?

1307
01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:16,520
Speaker 4: You have an opportunity right now, knowing what you know now,

1308
01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:19,520
Speaker 4: to give yourself a piece of advice during that hurdle moment.

1309
01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:21,560
Speaker 3: What do you tell yourself?

1310
01:00:22,640 --> 01:00:27,520
Speaker 1: I'd say to follow your gut, follow your heart, you know,

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Speaker 1: really be in tune with the things that you know

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Speaker 1: about yourself and be open to the things that you

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Speaker 1: don't know.

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Speaker 2: And I'm sure a lot of people say this, but

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Speaker 2: it will all work out.

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Speaker 3: In the end. Yeah, will trust and have faith? Right yeap?

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Speaker 4: So happy you're able to make this happen, Emma. If

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Speaker 4: they don't follow you just yet, how do the hurdlers

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Speaker 4: keep up with you?

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Speaker 3: How do they follow you? Give us your details?

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Speaker 1: Yes, so, I'm on Instagram, TikTok at Emma love Well.

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Speaker 1: I have a newsletter called the love List that's on substack.

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Speaker 1: I also have a website Live learnlovewell dot com. Find

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Speaker 1: my book at all places that books are. There's even

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Speaker 1: an audible where I'm reading the audio version. And then

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Speaker 1: find me on Peloton Cycling and Strength and Dance Cardio.

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Speaker 3: I love it all the places.

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Speaker 4: I'll link the book in the show notes I'm over

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Speaker 4: at Emily Body and at Hurdle Podcast another hurdle conquered.

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Speaker 3: Catch you guys next time.