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Speaker 1: Welcome to Daily Variety, your daily dose of news and

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Speaker 1: analysis for entertainment industry insiders. It's Monday, July fourteenth, twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty five. I'm your host, Cynthia Littleton. I am co

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Speaker 1: we'll talk to Rebecca Rubin about how Superman performed in

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Speaker 1: for conversations with Variety gas journalist about what's making news

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Speaker 1: in showbiz. If it's Monday, We're talking box office with

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Speaker 1: Rebecca Rubin, Variety Senior Film and Media reporter. How high

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Speaker 1: did Superman fly in his debut weekend? Was it enough

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Speaker 1: else she's watching out for at the box office this summer.

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Speaker 1: Rebecca Rubin, our box office cheap, Thanks so much for

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Speaker 1: joining me. Thanks for having me, Rebecca. This was another

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Speaker 1: big weekend at the box office, so many eyes on Superman.

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Speaker 1: How did this movie perform?

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Speaker 2: This weekend was especially important because Superman didn't just have

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Speaker 2: It's set up to relaunch DC Studios, and they have

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Speaker 2: It opened to one hundred and twenty two million in

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Speaker 2: It felt a bit like he was trying to will

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Speaker 2: think it played pretty evenly across the country. Rebecca, what

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Speaker 2: which is always exciting. They're all reboots, actually I Know

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Speaker 2: It's not like they need to make three hundred million

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Speaker 1: Congrats to Kate Laffey, who has joined Fifth Season as

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Speaker 1: This episode of Daily Variety was written and reported by

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