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Speaker 1: get you to text him the other day because I'm not.

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Speaker 1: Somebody said that after one of the national reporters texted

429
00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:06,520
Speaker 1: him and they said, how come you're not texting him?

430
00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:09,360
Speaker 1: I'm like, so what for him to reply and say,

431
00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:12,080
Speaker 1: I haven't made a decision. I want to save my

432
00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:14,600
Speaker 1: text to Larry Fitzjoe when I could actually get something

433
00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:18,000
Speaker 1: out of it and actually have a conversation, and I

434
00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:21,360
Speaker 1: don't want to, you know, lean on him. And quite frankly,

435
00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:23,880
Speaker 1: he's He's a smart enough guy. He's not the guy

436
00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:26,919
Speaker 1: who's going to be giving people stuff on the side.

437
00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:28,920
Speaker 1: But he's just not So what's the point. I mean,

438
00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:31,480
Speaker 1: I think at this point we're just all gonna have

439
00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:34,679
Speaker 1: to wait it out. And I do think there's probably

440
00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:37,320
Speaker 1: a small part of him that kind of enjoys everybody

441
00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:39,639
Speaker 1: wondering what he's going to do. I think Larry's that

442
00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:45,080
Speaker 1: kind of Sally disagree. I totally disagree what you're making

443
00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:50,400
Speaker 1: him solid. He's Brett Farve. I just listen. I will

444
00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:53,320
Speaker 1: tell you guys this right here. Um, I did text him,

445
00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:56,000
Speaker 1: There's no doubt about that. And I was like, Larry,

446
00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:59,480
Speaker 1: I promise you, we'll never ask you anything about it.

447
00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:01,680
Speaker 1: What you will turn it into a bit. We're we're

448
00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:05,840
Speaker 1: asking you everything except the question that everyone wants answered,

449
00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:07,800
Speaker 1: are you going to retire? He said, we'll turn it

450
00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:10,000
Speaker 1: into a bit. We'll do it funny, right, And he

451
00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:13,600
Speaker 1: texted back and didn't even acknowledge anything that I had said.

452
00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:15,920
Speaker 1: He just said, I hope you and the family are

453
00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:22,720
Speaker 1: doing well. One time I texted it after I was

454
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:25,920
Speaker 1: at the combine and he had just redone his contract

455
00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:29,640
Speaker 1: and I said, hey, congratulations on your new contract. I'm

456
00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:31,720
Speaker 1: wondering if you might be willing to give me a comment.

457
00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:35,640
Speaker 1: And he texted back and he goes, my comment is

458
00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:38,840
Speaker 1: that I love you, Darren, but not because I worked

459
00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:40,800
Speaker 1: with you or anything, but because you happen to share

460
00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:45,320
Speaker 1: the same birthday. Is it's beautiful? Well, I know you

461
00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:47,359
Speaker 1: want to know. Well, So my theory last week was

462
00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:51,560
Speaker 1: because Fitz was snowboarding, he was done because that violates

463
00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:54,399
Speaker 1: his contract. Thou Shalton not snowboard in the off season.

464
00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:56,080
Speaker 1: So if you're snow and then it was pointing out

465
00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:58,200
Speaker 1: to me, well, he's not currently under contract, so he's

466
00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:01,760
Speaker 1: not beholding or prohibited from snowboarding. So my one this

467
00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:04,760
Speaker 1: week was his long lines. And Darren knows this is

468
00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:07,240
Speaker 1: why all of a sudden and NFL Films put out

469
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:11,200
Speaker 1: that ancient reel of Larry Fitzgerald as a ball boy

470
00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:14,800
Speaker 1: for the Minnesota Vikings, and then shortly thereafter his good

471
00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:19,200
Speaker 1: buddon golfing pal Patrick Peterson signed with the Vikings. So

472
00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:22,680
Speaker 1: my latest theory is, wait a minute, is this all

473
00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:26,399
Speaker 1: in anticipation of Larry finishing his career in Minnesota, in

474
00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:28,720
Speaker 1: his hometown, going right back to where he used to

475
00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:32,320
Speaker 1: run drills after practice with Chris Carter and Randy Moss.

476
00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:35,800
Speaker 1: And to that, you say, what, Darren, I'm going to

477
00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:37,800
Speaker 1: say the same thing to you I said on the podcast,

478
00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:41,240
Speaker 1: which is, you know, I'm enjoying your conspiracy series and

479
00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:45,440
Speaker 1: it's gonna, I guess continue. But you're a crazy man, no,

480
00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:48,240
Speaker 1: you know what. Honestly, Okay, speaking of crazy man right here,

481
00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:51,720
Speaker 1: what do you think of Colt McCoy actually being scheduled

482
00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:54,600
Speaker 1: to actually come in and make a visit with the

483
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Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals. I have to admit I was struck by

484
00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:01,159
Speaker 1: Colt McCoy at thirty four years of age as a

485
00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:07,919
Speaker 1: possible backup to Kyler Murray. It's an interesting name. I

486
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,040
Speaker 1: do think that they've been on the search for a

487
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:15,280
Speaker 1: veteran quarterback since free agency opened, So it doesn't surprise

488
00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:17,280
Speaker 1: me given some of the names that are already off

489
00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 1: the board that you're looking at it. I mean, we'll

490
00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:22,320
Speaker 1: have to see how that turns out. But it's always

491
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:24,320
Speaker 1: nice to have some kind of veteran. I mean, he's

492
00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:26,600
Speaker 1: been in the league for long enough that you would

493
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:28,560
Speaker 1: think he'd be good in the quarterback room next to

494
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:31,719
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray and kind of, you know, telling him some

495
00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:34,880
Speaker 1: things that a veteran quarterback can don't. I don't think

496
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:37,640
Speaker 1: that that would hurt the situation at all in terms

497
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:41,000
Speaker 1: of the development of Kyler Murray. I wonder when the

498
00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:44,680
Speaker 1: Cardinals playing the Giants last year and Colt McCoy seeing

499
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:48,320
Speaker 1: action when Danny Dimes went down, if all that film

500
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:51,600
Speaker 1: they looked at Colton McCoy getting ready for that Giant's

501
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:55,480
Speaker 1: road trip, if they saw something they liked and they said,

502
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:58,880
Speaker 1: you know what this guy, and let's face it, if

503
00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:01,119
Speaker 1: Colton McCoy would have been in the game guys in

504
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:06,280
Speaker 1: week seventeen. What do you think I mean? So, I

505
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:08,720
Speaker 1: think maybe there's cause and effect there a little bit,

506
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:11,040
Speaker 1: and we'll see. According to the report, he might be

507
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:15,199
Speaker 1: an Arizona Cardinal by next week. So Darren, appreciate the

508
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 1: time and entertaining our conspiracy theories. And so there'll be

509
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 1: one next week hot off the front burner for you.

510
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,680
Speaker 1: And as Darren urban all about You, presented by Santan

511
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:31,760
Speaker 1: Ford and Gilbert Paul, we'll continue with another big Red

512
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:34,480
Speaker 1: Rage flashback and we'll get into what's next to the

513
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:41,680
Speaker 1: Cardinals this offseason on the boot Red Rage and the

514
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:44,879
Speaker 1: Hail Mary by Green Bay was topped by the Hail

515
00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:52,119
Speaker 1: Larry by the Arizona Cardinals, and I think we need

516
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:53,800
Speaker 1: to hear it everyone. Look, come on, wellyo in the

517
00:27:53,840 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 1: University of Phoenix Stadium, Larry, and so you get the

518
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:12,680
Speaker 1: official intro Larry. That's Aryl, A big voice guy. Larry

519
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 1: Barnett took over right there and Jim Barnett and Larry

520
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:20,200
Speaker 1: Fitzgerald was our special guest. Calais Campbell. That wolf is

521
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:25,440
Speaker 1: you remember the Red Sea invaded Marley's Chandler fashion Center

522
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:30,919
Speaker 1: the parking lot. Tim Hovic himself actually got government approval

523
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:32,960
Speaker 1: from the City of Chandler to put it in the

524
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:36,119
Speaker 1: parking lot and the Red Sea five six seven thousand

525
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 1: fans strong most definitely put the Big into Big Red

526
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:43,720
Speaker 1: Rage before the twenty fifteen NFC Championship Game. As we

527
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 1: continue to go down memory lane here on the Big

528
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 1: Red Rage Show number five hundred presented by Santan Ford

529
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:51,720
Speaker 1: in Gilbert, we'll leave it up to Timmy. Do you

530
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 1: actually pull that off? Right? Paul? And I tell you,

531
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 1: you know, there's so many moments that you think about,

532
00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 1: just snapshots. I think about being up on that stage

533
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:05,719
Speaker 1: with a rookie named Tyrann Matthew and Tyrn taking us

534
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:10,600
Speaker 1: through his youth and his upbringing, his dismissal from LSU,

535
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,240
Speaker 1: and you could hear a pin drop. I mean, the

536
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:16,480
Speaker 1: crowd was absolutely silent with it, did every word he said.

537
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 1: We'll remember who was. September two thousand and eight and

538
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 1: Anquan Bolden got knocked out literally in the end zone

539
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:27,960
Speaker 1: at the New York Jets. Yes, I remember his jaw

540
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 1: was broken. Broke his jaw. Yeah. Two weeks later he's

541
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:34,720
Speaker 1: on the Big Red Rage and his mouth is wired shut.

542
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 1: He had just got out of the weight room and

543
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 1: he played that week. It was like two weeks he

544
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 1: missed and he was back. I mean, don't get me

545
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 1: started on the quane. Well, once I go down that

546
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:48,720
Speaker 1: road ball, I'll never never stop. All right, Well, here's

547
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 1: one for you. Then we'll kick it to him and

548
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:53,719
Speaker 1: Bertrand Berry And if you remember, one of the bigger personalities,

549
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:55,960
Speaker 1: wasn't one of the bigger players of the bigger names,

550
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 1: Robert Tate. He was known as Top five. At any moment,

551
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:01,240
Speaker 1: he would give you a top five list his opinion,

552
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 1: top five any category like top five pizza places in

553
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 1: the world, like he'd have it ready. And so here's

554
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 1: Bertrand and an Quhan talking about Robert Tad, who was

555
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 1: known as a bit of a businessman on the side.

556
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 1: When you have a nickname top five, you automatically set

557
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 1: yourself up for all kind of ribbon, you know what

558
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:21,760
Speaker 1: I mean. And he calls himself one of the top

559
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 1: five addresses. He calls himself top five and it actually

560
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 1: has boxers with Top five. He's taking his nickname to

561
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 1: the next top five called Robert Tate, the locker room hustler,

562
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:37,360
Speaker 1: here's a guy. He rints out his molepad, rents to

563
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 1: the family band. After things given, they have the blowout sale.

564
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 1: Robert Tate is at Walmart four o'clock in the morning

565
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:48,240
Speaker 1: to buy twelve hundred dollars Appliasma TV buys about four

566
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:50,520
Speaker 1: of them, comes to the locker room and try to

567
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:53,280
Speaker 1: sell him to the teammate for about two three thousand dollars.

568
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 1: This is your boy, this is Top five. Who's buying

569
00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:00,160
Speaker 1: the TVs from Taton, who's renting the mole pad. That's

570
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 1: why I want to does he get any business? He does?

571
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 1: JJ Aaronson was a guy who bought a couple of class.

572
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 1: That's just getting it done. Polly right there. Hey, do

573
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 1: you remember Clark Hagan's Oh god, okay, Clark Hayans. Do

574
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 1: you remember Polly when we actually talked to him about,

575
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:23,479
Speaker 1: you know, the trips. He was not a very fancy dresser,

576
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 1: remember that. And he actually said he brought a T shirt.

577
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 1: He brought a T shirt fall and a toothbrush. Tooth

578
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 1: I do remember. That reminded me of a guy who

579
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 1: played with Steve Everett, who used to be a center

580
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 1: with the Cleveland Brown Steve Everett. We called him Spawnee.

581
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 1: He once played a game with two broken hands. He

582
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 1: was a center. By the way at Michigan UM. A

583
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 1: guy that just was incredible had hair down to his butt.

584
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 1: Polly and Steve Everett was just crazy. The same thing.

585
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 1: The guy showed up on a groad trip where he

586
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 1: had shorts on and a toothbrush was actually stuck in

587
00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 1: his pocket. And that was it. There we was and

588
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 1: once again, this is showing number five hundred in the

589
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 1: history of the Big Red Rage. And there were shows

590
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 1: where I think I suffered a rib injury. I was

591
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 1: laughing so hard. Clark Haggins was one of them. Larry

592
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 1: Foote was another one, talking about all the old man

593
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:14,680
Speaker 1: jokes he got from the rookies, and he would tell

594
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 1: the rookies in the locker room, Yeah, but I might

595
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 1: have dated your mom, so you better back off, and

596
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 1: stuff like that. Just the trash talking that's going on.

597
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 1: I remember Adrian, right, Adrian Wilson, a doll bladies and

598
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 1: gentlemen talking about Jiffy cornbread, remember that Jiffy, And I

599
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 1: had never heard of Jiffy. He was absolutely he was

600
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 1: perplexed that I had never heard of that, and then

601
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 1: Rex had not a starting guard at the time came on,

602
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 1: and when the Jiffy story came up, he was like

603
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 1: ready to pound me, like he was offended that I

604
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 1: never heard of Jiffy, you know, I mean I was

605
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 1: looking for an exit route at that point. Then there

606
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 1: was the one where we had Dominique Rodgers Cromarty DRC,

607
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:57,720
Speaker 1: unique guy in so many ways, loved DRC, and we

608
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:00,200
Speaker 1: got worried about um. Well, he was a bit of

609
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 1: a cook in a very unusual way, and we asked

610
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 1: him to tell us about that story one of his

611
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 1: favorite dishes. Dominique, did you eman to bring an iron

612
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 1: with you? Tell everyone what you do with an iron?

613
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 1: And maloney, go ahead, keep going. Tell us how I

614
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:21,480
Speaker 1: pressed out on the meat, then I put it on

615
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:24,960
Speaker 1: and eat it. That was that just in college. You

616
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:30,160
Speaker 1: still do that to this day. Nice? Nice? How do

617
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 1: your shirts not smell like? I forgot two different an

618
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:42,840
Speaker 1: actually flatten his? He's I don't know about you, Wolf.

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Speaker 1: In your ten years in NFL locker rooms, I've never

620
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 1: ever seen a guy with an iron in his locker

621
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Speaker 1: other than Dominique Rogers Cormardi. And that was the tell.

622
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 1: That was a tip I'm like, DRC one day in

623
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:56,560
Speaker 1: the locker room, what's the deal with the iron in

624
00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:58,720
Speaker 1: your locker? And that's the story we got out of.

625
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 1: What's so incredible about that too, Pauli's just the fact

626
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 1: that have you ever had a fried Bologny sandwich? Because

627
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 1: they are good, I mean they are really really good

628
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 1: off fried blow he said, which, Paul, And to think

629
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 1: of using an iron to warm the thing up, obviously,

630
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 1: I'm sure he washed it in between, right, sure, Hey,

631
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 1: sometimes you got to get that's the only way to

632
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 1: get through college, Wolf, right, you know it's right, I mean,

633
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:31,880
Speaker 1: you know that's a And then there were shows as

634
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,120
Speaker 1: long as you could play press man the way dude,

635
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:37,799
Speaker 1: good right, who cares about your iron? Those were all

636
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 1: time shows. And then we had shows and this happened

637
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:43,400
Speaker 1: more than once. We had Kurt Warner on and Wolf,

638
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:45,720
Speaker 1: you didn't get five words in and that's saying something.

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Speaker 1: So you know, you basically had the night off and

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Speaker 1: guy's going network, and he did. He did go network,

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Speaker 1: and so, uh, you know, We've had a whole variety

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Speaker 1: Paul dinner here from Kurt Warren or Old Graybeard, and

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Speaker 1: here they are and soul and soul right so, and

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Speaker 1: he will continue to roll with the ND soul. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: By the way, one footnote on Clark Higins. He also

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Speaker 1: revealed that night that he dressed up as Spider Man

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Speaker 1: for Halloween and was jumping through his neighbor's backyards and

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Speaker 1: got the cops called on him. We continue to show

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Speaker 1: number five hundred on the Big Red Rage Clark. The

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Speaker 1: Cardinals are trading for Raiders Pro Bowl center Rodney Hudson.

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Speaker 1: I assume the Cardinals wanted him and it wasn't officially released,

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Speaker 1: so they snooped in there and said, hey, before he

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Speaker 1: gets the open market, before we had to, is there

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Speaker 1: any way we can trade for this nice moved by

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Speaker 1: the Cardinals. Cardinals are moving. Seismic shift is what the

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Speaker 1: owner of the Cardinals said a week or two ago

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Speaker 1: about the salary cap. They're making their team better over there.

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Speaker 1: You got to respect it around Kyler and Cliff Kingsbarger.

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Speaker 1: That's Pat McAfee show. As Yes, the Cardinals made national

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Speaker 1: headlines with that trade for Rodney Hudson, sending the third

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Speaker 1: rounder to the Raiders getting a seventh rounder and Rodney

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Speaker 1: Hudson in return, a trade that, according to Steve Time,

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Speaker 1: took quote a matter of minutes. He said he was

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Speaker 1: quote shocked to see that Rodney Hudson was about to

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Speaker 1: part ways with the Raiders, and instead of trying to

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Speaker 1: contend with all everyone else out there if he got released,

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Speaker 1: he picked up the phone and called Mike Mayak and boom.

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Speaker 1: That's the essence of a deal. Here on The Big

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Speaker 1: Red Rage, the five hundredth edition of The Big Red Rage,

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Speaker 1: and the Cardinals. They're checking a lot of boxes so

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Speaker 1: far this offseason, are they not, Ron Wolfley, Yeah, Paully,

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Speaker 1: they really are right now. And once again their offensive line.

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Speaker 1: I'm really excited about the offensive line, in the direction

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Speaker 1: of the offensive line, Polly, because I think it speaks

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Speaker 1: volumes as to how the Arizona Cardinals are going to

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Speaker 1: go about their business in twenty twenty one. The fact

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Speaker 1: that they got Rodney Hudson for two more years, Pauli

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Speaker 1: at nine and a half and ten and a half,

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Speaker 1: you're talking about a Pro Bowl center right now, a

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Speaker 1: guy that is an unquestioned leader in that locker room,

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Speaker 1: a guy that is going to be a great mentor

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Speaker 1: for Kyler Murray. I am just absolutely stunned. That is

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Speaker 1: Steve Kim's opus, his magnum opus. We know what that is,

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Speaker 1: the d Hop trade, no doubt about that, but his opus,

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Speaker 1: Steve Kimes opus, has got to be the Rodney Hudson deal. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean you're talking about a guy who's allowed ten

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Speaker 1: sacks in ten years. Think about that, a guy who

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Speaker 1: hasn't had a false start since twenty sixteen, when you

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Speaker 1: had four at that positional loan last year, sobotic Paul.

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Speaker 1: So they're obviously looking forward to that. They identify that

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Speaker 1: as a need. They filled that and maybe exceeded expectations

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Speaker 1: with a Rodney Hudson. And then we got news this

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Speaker 1: week and he's going to have a new linemate we

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Speaker 1: figure at right guard, although he'll get competition from another

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Speaker 1: guy who they inked as well, Brian Winners and Max Garcia.

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Speaker 1: Here's Steve kind the GM on those two. The addition

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Speaker 1: of Brian Winners excites me. He's a guy that I've

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Speaker 1: watched for years, dating back to Kent State when he

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Speaker 1: came out really physical player, smart, really good quickness in

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Speaker 1: a short area, and I think he does a great

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Speaker 1: job in pass protection, so he's a guy that certainly

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Speaker 1: will have a chance to compete. And as well as

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Speaker 1: signing back Max Garcia, who can play guard or center

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Speaker 1: for us Hey. Max Garcia played in fourteen games for

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Speaker 1: the Cardinals a year ago. But Brian Winters Wolf an

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Speaker 1: eight year veteran, He has eighty eight starts under his bell.

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Speaker 1: He started all three playoff games for the Bills last year.

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Speaker 1: What do you think this does for the Cardinals line? Well,

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Speaker 1: it brings an awful lot of experience to the Arizona

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Speaker 1: Cardinals offensive line, and it brings a lot of physicality

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Speaker 1: as well. Pauli, I would say when you think of

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Speaker 1: Brian Winners, the one thing I think of first is

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Speaker 1: not only how smart he is an experienced he is,

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Speaker 1: but just the fact that he's a very physical player.

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Speaker 1: And there is a there is a theme that is

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Speaker 1: running through this locker room and all of the moves,

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Speaker 1: most of all the moves the Arizona Cardinals have made

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Speaker 1: in Steve Kime, and it is all about the physicality.

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Speaker 1: This team is going to be much more physical, I

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Speaker 1: believe on the line of scrimmage, on both sides of

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Speaker 1: the ball, going forward. It's a mentality. They've got a foster,

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Speaker 1: it's a mentality they've got to cultivate. And so much

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Speaker 1: of that has got to do with the type of

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Speaker 1: guy you bring into the locker room, Polly, do you

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Speaker 1: bring these guys in and dogs are dogs? Man, and

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Speaker 1: you bring them into a locker room, they start barking?

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Speaker 1: So do you think this is a tell? Do you

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Speaker 1: think this is an indication that it's going to be

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Speaker 1: a different offense this year? I think so, Polly, I do.

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Speaker 1: I think it's going to We're going to see more

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Speaker 1: traditional elements offensively. I believe that mixed with the new.

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Speaker 1: Of course, Listen, you don't want to handcuff Cliff Kingsbury.

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Speaker 1: You don't want to do that. You want to use

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Speaker 1: all that creativity, all of that intellect. You want to

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Speaker 1: bring that to bear. But I think, especially with the

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Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Polly winning the Super Bowl and winning

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Speaker 1: it the way that they did by lining up and

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Speaker 1: pounding the football once again right in time, Brady throwing

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Speaker 1: the ball using seven man play actions, throwing the ball

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Speaker 1: down the field, the bash and bomb offense with a

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Speaker 1: little more underneath throws and across the middle throws with

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady. Listen, you know what a copycat league this

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Speaker 1: league is, and now all of a sudden, you're gonna

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Speaker 1: get a lot more traditional elements. I think, a blending

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Speaker 1: of the old and the new. I can't wait to

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Speaker 1: see it, frankly, because I think it's gonna be cool,

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Speaker 1: and I agree with you. But at the same time,

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Speaker 1: you know, these are guys who excel in pass blocking

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Speaker 1: as well. We know Justin Pugh that's his forte. He

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Speaker 1: took the haircut, he went down to four million dollars.

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Speaker 1: He tweeted that out. He took a salary reduction. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Rodney Hudson, we cited his pass pro stats. Brian winner,

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Speaker 1: Steve Kim, he cited that as part of the scatterport

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Speaker 1: of Brian Winners, he excels and pass blocking. Kelvin Beacham,

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Speaker 1: you'd say, you know what, that probably he's probably better

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Speaker 1: pass blocker perhaps than run blockers. Play action is a

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Speaker 1: great way to go BALLI Play action is a great

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Speaker 1: way to go, and that's where I think they're going

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Speaker 1: to develop this all offense. Not the RPO was much,

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Speaker 1: but play action well, Kyler Murray asked for it at

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Speaker 1: least via a couple of cryptic tweets, right, so there

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Speaker 1: you go. In fact, he did go ahead and texts

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Speaker 1: Rodney Hudson his new center right away after the trade

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Speaker 1: was completed. We finish up the five hundredth edition of

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Speaker 1: The Big Red Rage presented by Santan Ford in Gilbert

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Speaker 1: Nickcamp the ball he got sicked by Wilson. The ball

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Speaker 1: came out, cardinals, I gotta have a music, yeah, right,

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Speaker 1: Jack in the Box explain that for our radio listeners

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Speaker 1: at all, it was something there, Carlo d As we

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Speaker 1: came up, we kind of to we kinda to Jared

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Speaker 1: Allen's celebration, mixed it with my YouTube, but we kind

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Speaker 1: of were kind of combined the two. They came up

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Speaker 1: with the Jack about bertrand Berry in the background with

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Speaker 1: the musical sounds and the sound effects right there Adrian

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Speaker 1: Wilson explaining the celebration, and man, that was a moment

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Speaker 1: going back five hundred shows worth The Big Red Rage

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Speaker 1: presented by Santan Ford and Gilbert Paul kelvc Ron Wolfley.

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Speaker 1: You know I remember too, is is Adrian Wilson was

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Speaker 1: a guest so many times that Bertrand Berry and so forth.

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Speaker 1: But then when a Dub hosted in two thy ten

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Speaker 1: Wolf and I think you were the one who asked him, well,

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Speaker 1: a Dub, why did you do this? A lot of people,

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Speaker 1: you know, didn't expect you really to host the show,

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Speaker 1: and he said, I know, because that's why I did it.

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Speaker 1: That's why you guys everyone said I couldn't do it

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Speaker 1: or I wouldn't do it, and he hit it out

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Speaker 1: the little personality of Adrian Wilson, does it not Poly

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Speaker 1: the gas man right there, just knowing the player that

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Speaker 1: he was and the way that he used to blow

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Speaker 1: up players. I loved watching a Dub play the game.

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Speaker 1: He was so physical, such a physical, physical presence, and

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Speaker 1: not a shock to actually hear him say that, you

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Speaker 1: know what, I did it because people didn't think I could.

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Speaker 1: You know who else good? You know who else was

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Speaker 1: excellent when he put on the headset Darnell Dockett, Oh yeah, Doc, Doc,

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Speaker 1: when he wanted to be he was money behind the

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Speaker 1: Pencil next saying I played garden tackle in high school,

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Speaker 1: guard the gatorade bucket and tackle anyone who gets near it.

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Speaker 1: He ripped me in front of the crowd on that one.

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Speaker 1: But Doc was really good when he wanted to be

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Speaker 1: in front of absolutely Polly. I also loved it when

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Speaker 1: Carlos Dansby right Carlos Dansby. But I just loved his personality.

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Speaker 1: You talk about a guy that was a savant on

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Speaker 1: the football field, but you brought up a quom Bolden

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Speaker 1: earlier and Kuombolden the regard in the respect that I

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Speaker 1: have in my heart for this guy. I love this

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Speaker 1: guy because of the player that he was on the field,

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Speaker 1: A guy that was more of a linebacker than he

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Speaker 1: was a wide receiver, had that line acker mentality, and

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Speaker 1: he was so funny. He ripped everybody. As you know, Paul,

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Speaker 1: you got ripped all the time by the quad, and

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Speaker 1: all I can remember is hey, hey, hey, right, I

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Speaker 1: mean that was I was a quad. He would say hey,

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Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, here comes a rip. Man.

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Speaker 1: You were about ready to get ripped by Ann klam

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Speaker 1: Bolden a legend. I remember hosting one of his charity

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Speaker 1: events and he still has the most bling per square

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Speaker 1: inch I watch. He was wearing. It was like a

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Speaker 1: hub calf with diamonds. It was unbelievable. I mean it's

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Speaker 1: like every now and then, Paul, to watch that Larry

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Speaker 1: gave you. Of course you'll wear that every other road

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Speaker 1: trip or something like that. The big, huge piece of

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Speaker 1: metal that could actually be a personal safety device LIE

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Speaker 1: detector just went off. I stepped into that one right

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Speaker 1: down to the pre Super Bowl forty three edition with

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Speaker 1: Clydesdale's and the Hollis Trophy. Man, what a pleasured has

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Speaker 1: been to host Big Red Rage special. Thanks to Jim

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Speaker 1: Almahandro the executive producer for making it all happen and

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Speaker 1: Dye Fincher. That'll do it for the Big Red Rage

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Speaker 1: Number one. Tyler, You've been listening to The Big Red

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