Speaker 1: Welcome in episode three point fifty eight. What's right when
Speaker 1: Nick right in this episode has always brought to you
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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna be totally transparent with the audience. I
Speaker 1: am so ready for actual football season. We've been saying
Speaker 1: the last few weeks it's football season because we have
Speaker 1: turned our attention to football. The problem is there's no news.
Speaker 1: Like the news we get is this, uh we hear,
Speaker 1: Oh my god, And I think it's in the show somewhere,
Speaker 1: but I'll discuss it for a moment. Anyway. James Cook
Speaker 1: thirty million guaranteed with the agents credited in the first
Speaker 1: paragraph of ESPN dot com story, and then, of course
Speaker 1: a day later it's like, well, actually it's really fifteen
Speaker 1: million guaranteed, and you already had five million guaranteed, so
Speaker 1: it's really just ten million extra guaranteed. But wait to
Speaker 1: get those agents that pub Like, that's not real. I
Speaker 1: guess he's back in camp. That's the news. The major
Speaker 1: story in sports media today is Joe Burrow got knocked down.
Speaker 1: Like that's where we're at in the camp calendar, which
Speaker 1: is why we take vacation next week and then we
Speaker 1: come back full fledged, first Things, first prediction week on
Speaker 1: this show, back to back preseason gambling extravaganzas. So all
Speaker 1: of that is coming in short order. But today does
Speaker 1: feel a little bit like the you know, seventeenth lap
Speaker 1: in the fifteen thousand meters, like man, the we're trudging through.
Speaker 1: So I understand I maybe shouldn't say that to the audience.
Speaker 1: Maybe you're turning off the podcast. Please don't do that,
Speaker 1: like great, subscribe, review, do all those things. I'm just
Speaker 1: being honest with you, guys, which is why I was
Speaker 1: so thrilled that yesterday we got actual news in the
Speaker 1: What's Right universe, which is demanse. Would you like to
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Speaker 2: Owl snakes finally popped out yesterday? It was the day
Speaker 2: day fifty fifty five or fifty six got home on
Speaker 2: saw some little heads, did the routine check, saw some
Speaker 2: heads pop.
Speaker 1: I mean, look at this picture.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're looking I mean like a little blanket.
Speaker 1: It's really unbelievable. So let me can I all right, sorry,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put you on frontree to bit here. Did
Speaker 1: you cry? I did? I think somebody you told me? Well,
Speaker 1: you think something because you told me you thought you
Speaker 1: would years ago, when Demand started this journey of teaching
Speaker 1: himself how to read exotic snakes, he said, he was like,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest with you. He's like, if it
Speaker 1: ever happens and they actually there's actually one that they
Speaker 1: mate and they get pregnant and there's eggs and they're born,
Speaker 1: he's like, I think I'll cry, And so I was
Speaker 1: it was.
Speaker 2: I was, Yes, no tears came out, but but yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean I think I always just start screaming.
Speaker 1: I think it's like my default. Oh so you yelled, Yeah, definitely. Sorry.
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Speaker 1: that we have locked in a week from today, your
Speaker 1: youngest sister coming traveling on her own cross country to
Speaker 1: come visit you, and she'll get to see all these
Speaker 1: baby snakes. It's everything's insane and perfect. Yes, So that's great.
Speaker 1: So that's honestly the most exciting thing. Uh, I'll be
Speaker 1: totally transparent. My most exciting part of this podcast just happened.
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Speaker 1: I said, Temper's flare at Bengals camp because Joe Burrow
Speaker 1: got knocked down. Chris STAPs Berzingis wants to pursue an
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Speaker 1: last picks of active NBA players that I think would
Speaker 1: actually succeed in that. I understand he has reach, but
Speaker 1: it seems like a huge injury risk and be a
Speaker 1: guy that you could get on the ground broke. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I just he would not like Anthony Edwards high on
Speaker 1: my MMA fighting list. Yeah, Joker, I think maybe would
Speaker 1: be pretty good. I feel like Joker can take a punch,
Speaker 1: tough guy, lean on you. Chris STAPs not. I'd even
Speaker 1: put Wimby ahead of him, because I feel like Wimby,
Speaker 1: you know, with his embrace of the Far East, like
Speaker 1: maybe has learned some martial arts or something. I don't know,
Speaker 1: Like I christa far East, he has the Far East. Yeah. Uh.
Speaker 1: And Taylor Swift appeared on New Heights and What'll probably
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Speaker 1: podcasts in the history of podcasts. All right, once again
Speaker 1: reminder like rate, subscribe, review and because it's our last
Speaker 1: day before vacation, let's just talk Cowboys. Oh my goodness.
Speaker 2: Uh so, winning is not a priority to our guard,
Speaker 2: mister Jones. And that's Jerry Jones. He called his Cowboys
Speaker 2: a year round soap opera and said, if we're not
Speaker 2: being looked at, then I'll do my part to get
Speaker 2: us looked at. H He also called controversy a good thing.
Speaker 2: Oh what's going on over there in Dallas?
Speaker 1: Well so, and he yesterday said he may or may
Speaker 1: not talk with Micah with Micah's agent, pardon me. And
Speaker 1: then he's like that he's under contract. So we're gonna
Speaker 1: we're gonna try to hit ten topics. Say, I'm we'll
Speaker 1: try to do him fast. I just want to hone
Speaker 1: in on this one point here. There is no justification
Speaker 1: or explanation for Jerry not talking to Micah's agent. None.
Speaker 1: We can argue about a lot of this. We can
Speaker 1: argue about whether or not it's smart for the Cowboys
Speaker 1: to pay Micah. I don't think that's a huge argument.
Speaker 1: But someone was like, you know what, they already have
Speaker 1: the most expensive quarterback, one of the most expensive receivers.
Speaker 1: They're probably not that close. Their better path is make
Speaker 1: them play out this year. Franchise tag in order to trade. Like,
Speaker 1: if somebody wanted to make that argument, I would listen
Speaker 1: to it. Okay, I would disagree with that. I would
Speaker 1: listen to it. If there are a lot of things
Speaker 1: that you there are legitimate opinions on both sides on
Speaker 1: With this thing, there is not a legitimate opinion that
Speaker 1: involves agreeing with Jarryry Jones' decision to never talk to
Speaker 1: Micah's agent. And if the justification on Jerry's end were, well,
Speaker 1: there's nothing to talk about because we are not signing
Speaker 1: Micah to an extension. The problem with that argument is
Speaker 1: Jerry's claim is we already agreed to an extension months ago.
Speaker 1: Jerry is not claiming I don't want to sign Micah.
Speaker 1: Jerry's claiming I did want to sign Micah. I had
Speaker 1: an agreement with Micah. Micah now essentially reneged on it.
Speaker 1: Even if that is the case, then there is no
Speaker 1: justification for not calling Micah's agent and saying, hey, here's
Speaker 1: the offer, and that I think through missed through all
Speaker 1: of the Jerry Jones nonsense has been the very simple
Speaker 1: fact that he has not had a conversation with David Mulligata,
Speaker 1: Micah's agent, and that to me is the only possible
Speaker 1: rationale for that is he wants to exert and show
Speaker 1: who's in charge and who has the power here, that
Speaker 1: he's trying to hold over them. And here would be
Speaker 1: my biggest and then we can move on to other topics.
Speaker 1: But my biggest concern if I were a Cowboys fan
Speaker 1: that Jerry quote about basically, we want to be in
Speaker 1: the news three hundred and sixty five days a year.
Speaker 1: You know, we're a soap opera. It's my job to
Speaker 1: drum up interest. Say what you want about Jerry. He
Speaker 1: is a brilliant marketer. That part is undeniable. And if
Speaker 1: Jerry is looking down the horizon, it might occur to
Speaker 1: him that if they sign Micah, there's no other like
Speaker 1: football adjacent intrigue controversy left to satiate the masses next offseason.
Speaker 1: Dak is done and has a no trade, CD is done.
Speaker 1: If they have if they sign Micah and they go
Speaker 1: eight and nine, what is the Cowboys' news that keeps
Speaker 1: them in the lead block of shows during the dog
Speaker 1: days of summer. There's not another train coming down those tracks.
Speaker 1: And so if Jerry is being earnest that his real
Speaker 1: goal is to keep the Cowboys front page. The easiest
Speaker 1: stretch there is dare Micah to play out this season,
Speaker 1: franchise tag him next offseason, and run this entire storyline back.
Speaker 1: I don't think that is the likely outcome, but I
Speaker 1: also think at this point it would be dumb to
Speaker 1: dismiss it as a possibility, because the fact that we
Speaker 1: have gotten here is a testament to the fact that
Speaker 1: Jerry is not leading with smart football team management. He
Speaker 1: is leading with generating buzz. And you sign Micah, it's
Speaker 1: hard to generate. If you sign Micah and you're just
Speaker 1: average next year, where where does the next buzz come from? Done?
Speaker 1: Mike has done, CD's done. Micah will be de facto
Speaker 1: untradeable the first year after signing a contract because of
Speaker 1: what the signing bonus will be. Dak is literally untradeable.
Speaker 1: They there's not a lot of paths, and you just
Speaker 1: hired a brand new head coach, like not gonna fire
Speaker 1: a coach after year one? Like what is the sizzle
Speaker 1: that the Cowboys can create other than just being awesome
Speaker 1: football and awesome football team? And I don't think that's likely.
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Speaker 1: All right, demonse, let's go to the chief.
Speaker 2: Use an Italian accent for that man. He's South Africa.
Speaker 1: I well, okay, well, I didn't mean to use an
Speaker 1: Italian accent, but I believe the name is I was
Speaker 1: trying to do French. Actually, I believe the name is French.
Speaker 1: I un du plus c. I wasn't trying to do Italian.
Speaker 1: I don't do accents, but I would. I'm guessing even
Speaker 1: though he's South African, that that is a French name,
Speaker 1: du plus c strikes me as no. Listen, the uh
Speaker 1: I say anything about Yeah? I mean I I that's
Speaker 1: that production error. And that's also a Ronen Burgundy style
Speaker 1: error by you. Just because it's written in the doc
Speaker 1: doesn't mean you gotta read it like you gotta every
Speaker 1: once in a while, you've gotta have some discretion. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're allowed for some discretion here, all right, go ahead.
Speaker 2: Andy Reid down played all the naysayers saying that the
Speaker 2: Kansas City's window is closing for the dynasty. Colin was
Speaker 2: also one of those naysayers, saying that the winning is over.
Speaker 2: Do you think that the win Do you think that
Speaker 2: the dynasty is continuable if they win the super Bowl
Speaker 2: this year?
Speaker 1: Well, hold on, I don't even think that's obviously. If
Speaker 1: they win the super Bowl this year, the dynasty is
Speaker 1: in progress. I want to focus more on. Listen. I
Speaker 1: think it's well established how much I adore and love
Speaker 1: Colin Cowherd. His Chiefs Takes now, I mostly blame Jmack.
Speaker 1: I think that, like the proximity to Jmax's historically bad
Speaker 1: chiefs takes have somehow there's been an osmosis of take
Speaker 1: that has impacted Colin. But they've been to three straight
Speaker 1: Super Bowls. They they have the best record in the NFL.
Speaker 4: Last year, they gotta go to the last one, right,
Speaker 4: They say they made it to the last super Bowl,
Speaker 4: Like I think they have to at least not make
Speaker 4: a super Bowl for the dynasty to be over.
Speaker 1: Well, I would think so, yeah. I And by the way,
Speaker 1: like when we talk about dynasties in the NFL, the
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Steelers is probably the most famous one. They won
Speaker 1: two Super Bowls. They then went two years without making
Speaker 1: the Super forget without winning it, without making the Super Bowl,
Speaker 1: and then they won two more. We look at that
Speaker 1: as one dynasty. The Patriots is an interesting one. I
Speaker 1: don't consider the Pants one continuous dynasty, but if you do,
Speaker 1: it went like this, won a super Bowl, missed the playoffs,
Speaker 1: then one two super Bowls. Then gosh, I'm gonna have
Speaker 1: to do this off the top of my head. O
Speaker 1: six going for the three pat lost their first playoff game.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, wait, oh five, going for the three p
Speaker 1: It's gonna be hard to off top my head, but
Speaker 1: I'm gonna try. Lost their first playoff Game. Six lost
Speaker 1: in Round two. Oh seven lost the Super Bowl. Oh
Speaker 1: eight missed the playoffs. Nine and twenty ten lost before
Speaker 1: the super Bowl, twenty eleven lost in the Super Bowl,
Speaker 1: twenty twelve, twenty thirteen lost before the super Bowl, fourteen
Speaker 1: won the Super Bowl, fifteen lost in Conference Title Game,
Speaker 1: sixteen won the Super Bowl, seventeen lost the Super Bowl,
Speaker 1: eighteen won the Super Bowl, nineteen lost in Round one.
Speaker 1: So if we want to do that as one long dynasty,
Speaker 1: then it's gonna be impossible to say the Chiefs dynasty
Speaker 1: is over if you consider the Patriots one long dynasty.
Speaker 1: The Patriots went a decade without winning a Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: The Chiefs have gone sixteen months, and so that part's
Speaker 1: just ridiculous. It's just fundamentally ridiculous to say I'm declaring
Speaker 1: it dead when the Chiefs are in the midst of
Speaker 1: or just completed. I guess you would say the greatest
Speaker 1: three year stretch in the history of the league. And
Speaker 1: they have been to three consecutive Super Bowls and seven
Speaker 1: straight AFC Championship Games. It's now If your take is
Speaker 1: they're just not good enough anymore, it's a bold take. Maybe,
Speaker 1: like there's no evidence for it. But if it's just
Speaker 1: your gut feeling, then so be it. Here is here
Speaker 1: is what I find the most demands a ridiculous about
Speaker 1: this Chief's fatalism stuff. And then we can move on
Speaker 1: every team in the AFC that is chasing them. If
Speaker 1: this year they have the exact season Kansas City had
Speaker 1: last year, best last undefeated team, best record in the NFL,
Speaker 1: beat the Chiefs in the AFC playoffs, make the Super Bowl,
Speaker 1: lose the super Bowl, it will be considered evidence that
Speaker 1: that team is getting closer, and the best season any
Speaker 1: of those teams have had in this era, the Chiefs
Speaker 1: having that year is considered evidence of implosion. But I
Speaker 1: am here to tell you if the Baltimore Ravens are
Speaker 1: the final, or the Buffalo Bills, or the Cincinnati Bengals
Speaker 1: or the Los Angeles Chargers or god forbid, the Denver
Speaker 1: Broncos or any of those teams, if they are the
Speaker 1: last undefeated team, if they are fifteen to one with
Speaker 1: the one seed locked up, they then beat the Chiefs
Speaker 1: in the playoffs and then run into I don't care
Speaker 1: who call it Philly or no, because Philly then would
Speaker 1: go back to back. That complicates things call it the
Speaker 1: Lions and get blown out in the Super Bowl. If
Speaker 1: that were to happen, and then I were to go
Speaker 1: on TV and be like, that's this year was the
Speaker 1: end of that team. They're done Now they is a
Speaker 1: time for a new chapter. People would say that, dude,
Speaker 1: you're just a hater. And this is also an element
Speaker 1: of my a lot of my Mahomes frustration in and
Speaker 1: I'm going to talk about this on the TV show
Speaker 1: today in how he's discussed. Do you agree to Monsday
Speaker 1: that all Lamar josh Ann Burrow the year they had
Speaker 1: last year elevated them, even if not in their actual ranking,
Speaker 1: but people elevated them their standing, and that the people
Speaker 1: felt their seasons combined with the year Mahomes had narrowed
Speaker 1: the gap for best quarterback. And then some people flipped it.
Speaker 1: You agree with that, right? Yeah, that's like conventional wisdom. Okay.
Speaker 1: And this is where the point that I make that
Speaker 1: Mahomes is not judged against his peers, I think is crystallized.
Speaker 1: Let's pretend Patrick this year had any of their seasons
Speaker 1: last year. Okay. Let's start with Joe Patrick puts up
Speaker 1: insane numbers and the Chiefs miss the playoffs. Does that
Speaker 1: help or does anyone be like, Okay, that helped Patrick's
Speaker 1: back dynasty is definitely over. Okay, So all right, let's
Speaker 1: do Lamar's year. Patrick puts up insane numbers. The Chiefs
Speaker 1: are the you know, a good but not great seed.
Speaker 1: They're the three seed, and for the first time in
Speaker 1: his career, he does not make a conference championship game
Speaker 1: because he loses in round two to one of the
Speaker 1: other rival quarterbacks. Does that help or hurt Patrick's standing?
Speaker 1: Would hurt him? It would hurt him, all right, Stu.
Speaker 1: Josh Patrick wins league, MVP team has a really good record,
Speaker 1: they get the two seed, and then to go back
Speaker 1: to the super Bowl, doesn't come through at the end
Speaker 1: and Josh beats him. Yeah. Is anybody then being like, Okay,
Speaker 1: Patrick has reclaimed or they're like, oh mvpb damn Josh
Speaker 1: beat him? Now do the flip side for any of
Speaker 1: those guys, all three of them, monse give them Patrick's year.
Speaker 1: Last year. They have mediocre stats but lead the league
Speaker 1: in game winning drives and comebacks, and he beats two
Speaker 1: of those guys en route. I'm sorry. Any of the
Speaker 1: those guys are the one seed and beat Patrick to
Speaker 1: get to the Super Bowl. Imagine if I then went
Speaker 1: on TV and was like, yeah, but his touch there,
Speaker 1: you know, Lamar's touchdown interception ratio wasn't that impressive. I'm
Speaker 1: actually dinging. It's just insane. And so I know I'm
Speaker 1: the Kansas City guy. I know I have the tattoo
Speaker 1: that I still don't know how to show on camera.
Speaker 1: I still don't know what I'm supposed to do here.
Speaker 1: It's just a disaster. There we go, I see, I
Speaker 1: don't even know what I'm there we go. It is well,
Speaker 1: it's just here's the thing. It's just boring. It's just boring.
Speaker 1: And I I also like, just one other thing because
Speaker 1: what has become very in vogue and Bruce says it
Speaker 1: a lot, and he and I talked about this, not
Speaker 1: like to I'd like to talk about it, but discussed
Speaker 1: it on the air the other uh the other day,
Speaker 1: which is because it's become very in vogue to say
Speaker 1: something along the lines of like, oh, Mahomes is doing
Speaker 1: Brady's career in reverse, where Brady in the beginning won
Speaker 1: but didn't have the stats, and Mahomes and then later
Speaker 1: in his career had the crazy numbers Mahomes are, but
Speaker 1: it's just inaccurate. And here's what I mean. Mahomes early
Speaker 1: and every year of his career except the last two.
Speaker 1: First five years one and had MVP caliber stats and
Speaker 1: the last two years he's won, but he hasn't had
Speaker 1: the crazy numbers until the playoffs. Right. But this idea
Speaker 1: that Tom Brady post two thousand and seven was just
Speaker 1: year in, year out, this statistical monster, it's just not true.
Speaker 1: So Tom Brady two thousand and seven had what at
Speaker 1: that point the greatest quarterback season ever. He then misses
Speaker 1: two thousand and eight due to injury. Two thousand and nine,
Speaker 1: tom Brady's team was ten and six and he had
Speaker 1: twenty eight touchdowns thirteen interceptions, and they lost their first
Speaker 1: playoff game. Then twenty ten, he had one of the
Speaker 1: greatest statistical seasons ever thirty six touchdowns, four picks, and
Speaker 1: twenty eleven he was in line with it thirty nine touchdowns,
Speaker 1: twelve picks, and then twenty twelve it's down to a
Speaker 1: ninety eight passer rating and twenty thirteen twenty five touchdowns,
Speaker 1: eleven picks and in eighty seven rating. That's in twenty
Speaker 1: thirteen and then obviously, twenty fourteen, they win the Super
Speaker 1: Bowl twenty fifteen, he has an all time twenty fifteen, sixteen,
Speaker 1: seventeen all time stats years where he has a combined
Speaker 1: doing the math on the fly, ninety six touchdowns fifteen
Speaker 1: picks a one to oh eight rating over the course
Speaker 1: of three years. But then the very next year twenty eighteen,
Speaker 1: they go eleven and five. He is twenty nine touchdowns
Speaker 1: eleven picks, but they win the Super Bowl twenty nineteen
Speaker 1: twenty four touchdowns, eight picks in eighty eight rating and
Speaker 1: leaves the Patriots and then goes on the sick run
Speaker 1: in Tampa. The point I'm making is this, even Pete
Speaker 1: Brady had these season like the season where it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: twenty nine touchdowns, eleven picks, twenty four touchdowns eight picks,
Speaker 1: twenty five touchdowns eleven picks, it was not every single
Speaker 1: year statistical excellence. It was every single year when the
Speaker 1: division make the playoffs, and it is at the tail
Speaker 1: end of his Patriots tenure, every single year make a
Speaker 1: conference championship game. But it's just it's we've got to
Speaker 1: be honest about what real expectations are, and we've got
Speaker 1: to be honest about what the guys who are allegedly
Speaker 1: in Patrick's league. If Patrick had the season they just had,
Speaker 1: and they just had the season Patrick just had, how
Speaker 1: would we view it? That's all I'm saying. All Right,
Speaker 1: let's suck the bills.
Speaker 2: Buffalo just extended James Cook. They gave him that top
Speaker 2: of the market running back money, so kind of.
Speaker 1: The top of them mark. Again, it depends on the reporting,
Speaker 1: but yeah, they he certainly got a deal that appears
Speaker 1: at least a little better than I would have done.
Speaker 1: Go ahead.
Speaker 2: So with limited caprom going forward, if Buffalo cannot get
Speaker 2: it done this year, do you think that their window
Speaker 2: is closed for the Super Bowl?
Speaker 1: No, Listen, I think if I had to bet, here's
Speaker 1: a fun exercise super Bowl. I don't want to do
Speaker 1: this right now. I was gonna say, like, divvy up
Speaker 1: super Bowls over the next five years between teams. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like like I would say, the Chiefs get two, Josh
Speaker 1: gets won, Raven's got to be in there at some point,
Speaker 1: Baltimore breaks through, Baltimore get one, and then is there.
Speaker 1: Uh you know, didn't see that one coming. Am I
Speaker 1: underrating Philly? You know what I mean? But I don't
Speaker 1: want to actually do that exercise, Like, I'd have to think.
Speaker 2: More about Billy to repeat this year.
Speaker 1: If Billy were to repeat, that's all, then we get
Speaker 1: into a whole different ball game. Everybody's got it nasty well,
Speaker 1: back to back. By itself, it's not a dynasty. But
Speaker 1: when you add to it, they did make the super Bowl.
Speaker 1: They did make the super Bowl two years prior. You
Speaker 1: know what I mean. I think you've got to have
Speaker 1: three in the NFL typically you've got to have at
Speaker 1: least three championships. So like the people don't consider the
Speaker 1: Dolphins of the seventies of full blown dynasty. Dolphins lost
Speaker 1: to Super Bowl, then won a Super Bowl, won a
Speaker 1: super Bowl. That's you know, So the how did I
Speaker 1: rank the dynasties? I think I did this once. Let
Speaker 1: me see if I can find it. Find it dynasty tiers.
Speaker 1: Do I have that somewhere? Some Google docs in somewhere. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what I'm looking at. I'm trying to look for it.
Speaker 1: Holeng Dynasty. Uh No, I don't have it. I I
Speaker 1: did do it at some point. The Daniel thinks he
Speaker 1: can find it, that would be great. But the dynasties
Speaker 1: that are undeniable are either one or two for the Patriots.
Speaker 1: Either way, they have three championships. You know, if you
Speaker 1: want to go, oh, one to eighteen with six titles
Speaker 1: with a gap in the middle, or one to four
Speaker 1: and then fourteen to eighteen. Either way, that's a dynasty.
Speaker 1: The Niners in the eighties from eighty to eighty eight,
Speaker 1: uh or in the eighties, I should say they won
Speaker 1: four Super Bowls. The Cowboys in the nineties winning three
Speaker 1: and four years obviously, the Steelers in the seventies. Those
Speaker 1: are the only official reel in my opinion, dynasties. The
Speaker 1: other ones that are close the Broncos who went back
Speaker 1: to back in ninety seven ninety eight, the Packers who
Speaker 1: went back to back to start the NFL. Now, the
Speaker 1: Packers would be higher up if we're doing pre Super
Speaker 1: Bowl York because they won championships. The Dolphins, as I mentioned,
Speaker 1: who lost to Super Bowl then won back to back
Speaker 1: Super Bowls like those are the ones that are closer.
Speaker 1: So the Eagles, if they were to win this year,
Speaker 1: would be in that tier with the Dolphins of the seventies,
Speaker 1: the Broncos of the nineties, the Cowboys of the seventies.
Speaker 1: Those teams the Raiders from mid seventies to early eighties,
Speaker 1: but they wouldn't, in my opinion, be a full Bowl.
Speaker 1: But they would then have Demond's a wide open window
Speaker 1: to get that third one and to be considered, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, If they win this year and
Speaker 1: then three years later they win another one, then that
Speaker 1: definitively would make them a dynasty. But to get to
Speaker 1: the question about Josh Allen and the Bills, here's here's
Speaker 1: where I stay. And tell me if you think it's unfair.
Speaker 1: I think Sean McDermott's a good coach. I think if
Speaker 1: they lose in the playoffs this year pre Super Bowl again,
Speaker 1: they probably have to fire him. I just don't especially
Speaker 1: if they lose to Kansas City. I just don't think
Speaker 1: you can. I think you would need something to make
Speaker 1: the team believe going into the next year that this
Speaker 1: year will be different. And if for the fifth time
Speaker 1: in six years, you lose to the same team, And honestly,
Speaker 1: I mean, but what if it's just that guy on
Speaker 1: the other side. Man, if I know why, I can't.
Speaker 1: That's why I said, tell me, if you think it's fair,
Speaker 1: like maybe maybe you just keep running it back I
Speaker 1: don't know, but I the stat that should work. This
Speaker 1: is a thing that Scott Kasmar tweets about a lot,
Speaker 1: and I do think is interesting. The stat that should
Speaker 1: worry Bill's and Ravens fans is there has never been
Speaker 1: a coach quarterback combo that won a super Bowl that
Speaker 1: didn't win their first super Bowl in their first five
Speaker 1: years together. Do you follow what I'm saying? So there
Speaker 1: has never been a coach quarterback combo that actually won
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl together that didn't win their first super
Speaker 1: Bowl within their first five years of being together. So
Speaker 1: like for Reid and Mahomes, this is their ninth year together,
Speaker 1: but they won their first super Bowl in their technically
Speaker 1: their third year together, but really their second year together,
Speaker 1: second year's start for Lamar and for Josh with Harbaugh
Speaker 1: and McDermott this is year eight together, that part is
Speaker 1: And for Burrow and Zach Taylor, by the way, I
Speaker 1: think it's your six. So now maybe that's, you know,
Speaker 1: a nonsense stat, but it is the fact that it's
Speaker 1: never happened in seventy five years of the NFL is
Speaker 1: noteworthy to me. So I think the bill the Bills,
Speaker 1: I would I am in a position demons where If
Speaker 1: you were to tell me I've seen the future and
Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs are not in the Super Bowl,
Speaker 1: who's who's in it and who wins it? My answer
Speaker 1: would be Buffalo. They would be my number one pick.
Speaker 1: I think they're good enough. I think Josh is good enough.
Speaker 1: Even if I wouldn't have necessarily given James Cook multi
Speaker 1: year guarantees, he's obviously a good player and helps him
Speaker 1: this year. I like their secondary worries me a bit,
Speaker 1: but I like the team a lot.
Speaker 2: But I just don't although I've got a follow up
Speaker 2: in here like where do you think that this Bill's
Speaker 2: team ranks amongst other Bills teams?
Speaker 1: I think they're very similar. I think listen, I think
Speaker 1: they're very similar, and I think that those teams have
Speaker 1: been I think last year's team was good enough. I
Speaker 1: thought a few years ago those teams were a little overrated,
Speaker 1: but I think last year's team was good enough. This
Speaker 1: team should be as good as last year's team. And
Speaker 1: as long as Josh continues as trend of not being
Speaker 1: you know, like last year, who's great on not turning
Speaker 1: the ball over? Uh, They're gonna be right there alone. No,
Speaker 1: because in the case, I've no, that's right, listen, I'm
Speaker 1: I'm just fair, and I called him a roller coaster
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Speaker 1: boost unlimited plan. All right, demonte Let's go to the giants.
Speaker 2: So Dabel named Russ the starter earlier this summer, but
Speaker 2: Jackson Dark came out in that preseason game was using
Speaker 2: his legs throwing some darts with Giants' front office and
Speaker 2: the head coach on the hot seat, how soon do
Speaker 2: you think that they'll want to throw Dart in if
Speaker 2: things start going wrong?
Speaker 1: Listen. Dabels sure also seemed to really, you know, he
Speaker 1: was more complementary of Jackson Dart than you've heard him
Speaker 1: be of a quarterback in a long time. I here's
Speaker 1: what I think. I don't think they are going to
Speaker 1: want I think that they're going to try to ride
Speaker 1: with Russ for the first half of the season. I
Speaker 1: don't know if you've looked at what the Giants opening
Speaker 1: half of the season's schedule is, but not a lot
Speaker 1: of soft spots. They go at Washington, at Dallas, home
Speaker 1: for the Chiefs, home for the Chargers, a brief respite
Speaker 1: with Home for New Orleans, then Philly, Denver, Philly, San
Speaker 1: Francisco and so and they'll you know, playing Philly twice
Speaker 1: in three weeks with a rookie quarterback seems like a nightmare.
Speaker 1: But then after that, as far as defenses you'll be
Speaker 1: facing after that, Philly, Denver, Philly Stretch, San Francisco, Chicago,
Speaker 1: Green Bay, Detroit, New England, your bye week Washington, Minnesota, Vegas, Dallas.
Speaker 1: I would imagine they are going to want to give
Speaker 1: Russ uh time to see, you know, if he can
Speaker 1: just be fine and the team can be alive. The
Speaker 1: ideal spot if they're not good to go to Dart.
Speaker 1: They play Philly on a Thursday, and they then have
Speaker 1: ten days until the next game. That would that would
Speaker 1: be a good spot. The problem is that team they
Speaker 1: play after those ten days is Denver, which should have
Speaker 1: one of the better defenses in the entire NFL. And
Speaker 1: so I think eventually, let me put it like this,
Speaker 1: I will be shocked if post bye week Jackson Dart's
Speaker 1: not the starter. But and I think there's a very
Speaker 1: good chance. And the bye week, for they have the
Speaker 1: last bye week, they're bye week's week fourteen, I think
Speaker 1: there's a very good chance they go to him earlier
Speaker 1: than that. I do not think it is realistic that
Speaker 1: he is the Week one starter. I don't think that
Speaker 1: is in line or even on Dable's mind for that
Speaker 1: to happen. But do I think that Brian Dable might
Speaker 1: be you know, if we nine they're struggling the way
Speaker 1: to kind of potentially keep the job, go to the
Speaker 1: rookie of the Rookie Show promise and be like, Hey,
Speaker 1: that's what we've got coming next year. I think that's
Speaker 1: on the board. All right, let's keep going.
Speaker 2: Uh, Shauduur suffer an oblique injury or practice and his
Speaker 2: status is currently up in the air. So Gabriel is
Speaker 2: in line to start in the next preseason game if
Speaker 2: he's healthy. So well, Shador being fourth on the depth
Speaker 2: chart right now, how big of a dinghy is it
Speaker 2: for him if he misses a game?
Speaker 1: All Right, you're gonna really, really, you're gonna make that
Speaker 1: face you make when you think I'm being unfair to people. Okay.
Speaker 1: I think one of the best things that can happen
Speaker 1: for Shaudor's chances of moving up the depth chart is
Speaker 1: the player in the next game. It's not about him
Speaker 1: not playing, it's about everyone seeing Dylan Gabriel and Kenny
Speaker 1: Pickett actually play. I think that. I think that having
Speaker 1: Dylan Deberl and Kenny Pickett play against Philly could be
Speaker 1: the best thing possible for Shador Sanders to move up
Speaker 1: that depth chart. Neither one of those guys have gotten
Speaker 1: a full training camp because of the injuries they've suffered. Gabriel,
Speaker 1: whatever Philly starters that they're playing, and that is a
Speaker 1: deep team in preseason game two, is a little less vanilla.
Speaker 1: I think Gabriel, who yesterday, according to the esp and
Speaker 1: Cleveland training camp stats, was six of nineteen in eleven
Speaker 1: on eleven and seven on seven. I just think that,
Speaker 1: assuming Shaudor's injury is very minor and he's able to
Speaker 1: practice by Monday, I think that him sitting and picket
Speaker 1: in Gabriel with the Browns offensive players against the Eagles
Speaker 1: defensive players, the Browns backups against the Eagles backups, and
Speaker 1: those guys, in my opinion, Pikett never and Gabriel not
Speaker 1: at this point being NFL starting caliber quarterbacks. I don't
Speaker 1: think this is the worst thing to happen to shit
Speaker 1: or now. If it's a long lingering injury, I think
Speaker 1: that's disastrous, but I don't it does not seem like
Speaker 1: that is likely the case. All right, let's go to Caleb.
Speaker 2: So after watching that preseason game week one from the sideline,
Speaker 2: Caleb and the starters will be in this next game,
Speaker 2: according to Ben Johnson, So what do you need to
Speaker 2: see from Caleb in this game?
Speaker 1: And what do you not want to see from him. Well,
Speaker 1: I just don't want to see him running around. I
Speaker 1: just want to see if listen. I think people have
Speaker 1: gotten too far down on Caleb. I think people are
Speaker 1: pre panicking about Ben Johnson overloading him with information. I again,
Speaker 1: I think Ben Johnson, you know, knows what he's doing
Speaker 1: and it will he at least is executing the plan
Speaker 1: that he had. Ben Johnson was very judicious about which
Speaker 1: head coaching job he was going to take. He waited
Speaker 1: for this one, he took this one. He could have
Speaker 1: coached Herbert, he could have coached Washington, he had other
Speaker 1: jobs he could have taken. He wanted this one. So
Speaker 1: he clearly thinks Caleb's style can work with him. But
Speaker 1: he is also trying to make Caleb have to process
Speaker 1: a ton early before they pare it back later. So
Speaker 1: I would just like to see Caleb look sharp. And
Speaker 1: I still I believe in Caleb. I think there has
Speaker 1: been far, far too big of an over correction on
Speaker 1: how good is Caleb Williams actually, and I will say
Speaker 1: this demonse, if Jaden has earned the benefit of the
Speaker 1: doubt of until proven otherwise, he's the best player from
Speaker 1: his from that draft class. At the quarterback position, which
Speaker 1: he's earned that like, you can't take calebe Bob Bo
Speaker 1: actually had a good rookie year. Caleb and Drake May
Speaker 1: both struggled, Pennis barely played, JJ didn't play, and Jaden
Speaker 1: had arguably the greatest rookie season ever. So if we
Speaker 1: take Jayden outside of it, if you were to ask
Speaker 1: me who what quarterback from that draft class other than Jayden,
Speaker 1: who do you think is gonna have the best year? Caleb, Bo,
Speaker 1: Drake Pinnix, or McCarthy, I would pick Caleb Williams And
Speaker 1: it wouldn't be that hard for me. You guys know,
Speaker 1: I'm not a believer the way other people are. In
Speaker 1: bow Knicks. We've seen almost nothing from Pinnix, JJ, we
Speaker 1: have seen nothing from and Drake May. I just don't
Speaker 1: I don't think they have the offensive personnel for him
Speaker 1: to thrive this year. So I will. I believe that
Speaker 1: Caleb is going to have a better year than people expect,
Speaker 1: and I think that he is. That Ben Johnson's approach
Speaker 1: of overload him now then make it simpler later when
Speaker 1: the games actually matter, I think that's pretty smart. All right,
Speaker 1: let's go to uh, go ahead, pal.
Speaker 2: What are you expecting out of the game, Like I mean,
Speaker 2: I know it's a preseason game.
Speaker 1: But I mean the all I so they play the
Speaker 1: Bills on Saturday on Fox. I think that the Lions
Speaker 1: passing offense should look good. I think the Bill's secondary,
Speaker 1: as I said earlier, is already their weakness and their
Speaker 1: you know, so that's their starting secondary. They're gonna be
Speaker 1: playing backups at some point. And then five days later
Speaker 1: they played the Chiefs in a game that I think
Speaker 1: is While it was my Super Bowl pick last year,
Speaker 1: I think it's very possible that Caleb does not play
Speaker 1: in that game. I think Caleb could get a lot
Speaker 1: of work this Saturday night and then doesn't play in
Speaker 1: the final preseason game. So listen, I I expect them
Speaker 1: to look good. We'll see, but I expect them. I
Speaker 1: expect them to look good. All right, let's go to
Speaker 1: the Blazer sale.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that Allen family is selling the trailer Blazers
Speaker 2: and setting their evaluation at over four billion dollars.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So here's so, here's why this is news. The
Speaker 1: news is Celtics sold for six, the Blazers just sold
Speaker 1: for four, The Lakers obviously sold for ten. Do we
Speaker 1: now know what an NBA the generic NBA team costs.
Speaker 1: And my answer is I think we do. I think
Speaker 1: that the generic NBA team now costs five billion dollars
Speaker 1: because I think the Blazers, because of market size, are
Speaker 1: a below average value NBA team, And it is in
Speaker 1: line with Adam Silver wanting the expansion fee to be
Speaker 1: six billion dollars. And but here's the thing, and I
Speaker 1: will give after you know, even though I disagreed with
Speaker 1: his quarterback pyramid, I will give Bill Simmons credit on this.
Speaker 1: Simmons is usually way ahead of the curve on like
Speaker 1: NBA ownership and league office going ons. And he he
Speaker 1: keeps more than alluding to that they are pumping the
Speaker 1: brakes on expansion. Now what does that mean for Lebron's
Speaker 1: ability to own a team, and what does that mean
Speaker 1: for you know, the potential competing not quite competing, but
Speaker 1: you know, other league I'm not certain, but four billion
Speaker 1: for the Blazers is a great number for the other
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Speaker 1: Let's do the lions real quick for we get out
Speaker 1: of here.
Speaker 2: Dan Campbell said he's motivated by people doubting his that
Speaker 2: he can succeed without his star coordinators. But we've always
Speaker 2: known that Dan Campbell's ever struggled with motivation. Besides motivation,
Speaker 2: what do you think that Dan Campbell brings to the
Speaker 2: table as a head coach?
Speaker 1: Well, listen, I think he's a very good head coach.
Speaker 1: I think he sets a culture and I think his
Speaker 1: aggressiveness on fourth downs is that's a Dan Campbell, not
Speaker 1: a Ben Johnson thing, and I think that instills a
Speaker 1: real edge for them. But here is my overarching takes,
Speaker 1: so to speak, that I think that I set on
Speaker 1: the show yesterday that I hadn't I thought of while
Speaker 1: we were within the segment, and I was like, you
Speaker 1: know what, It just was kind of a Eureka moment.
Speaker 1: I was like, I think that's right. I think setting
Speaker 1: a culture and motivation and the things we know Dan
Speaker 1: Campbell's great at are hugely important to turn a team around,
Speaker 1: to get a team from where the Lions were to
Speaker 1: a legitimate NFL team, But I think there are diminishing
Speaker 1: returns on that once your team is a real contender,
Speaker 1: because once your team is competing for championships. Once you
Speaker 1: do have really good players, there's a lot of self
Speaker 1: starting and self motivation and the culture is set once
Speaker 1: you get to that point. Then I do think the
Speaker 1: coordinators who are more your tacticians, those guys have an
Speaker 1: increased value when you're actually trying to win a championship.
Speaker 1: So that I have four significant concerns about the Lions
Speaker 1: this year. Or one is what you're talking about right there,
Speaker 1: the loss of coordinators. The second one is how does
Speaker 1: golf respond to that playoff meltdown? I think that's a
Speaker 1: fair question. Three is is this the worst offensive line
Speaker 1: golf has had and the Lions have had since golf
Speaker 1: has been there, I should say, And how does that
Speaker 1: impact him? And four is the this schedule plus the
Speaker 1: toll of being so close two years ago, having the
Speaker 1: best record in the conference last year and not making
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl? Does that is it just too much
Speaker 1: to overcome? So with all that, for all those reasons,
Speaker 1: like do I think it's on the board the Lions
Speaker 1: go from the number one seed to missing the playoffs?
Speaker 1: I think that's on the board. Was that going to
Speaker 1: be my pick? I don't. I'm not sure yet, but
Speaker 1: I think that that team. They could take a major
Speaker 1: step back this year, and I think the coordinators are
Speaker 1: not all of it, but a big piece of it.
Speaker 1: All right, reminder like rate, subscribe, review iTunes, Spotify, YouTube,
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Speaker 1: Zach's question. Yeah, it's pretty good.
Speaker 2: If the Ravens have an MVP at quarterback and one
Speaker 2: of the best rosters in the league each year, what when,
Speaker 2: oh yeah, when does Harboe start to get on the
Speaker 2: hot seat for not winning anything in years?
Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, a lot of what I said about McDermot,
Speaker 1: Oh well, no about McDermott, about like if they lose again,
Speaker 1: even if he's a good coach, do you have to
Speaker 1: make a move would apply to Harbaugh. Except with the Ravens.
Speaker 1: Prior to last year, folks, people didn't blame Harbaugh. They
Speaker 1: were just like Lamar didn't. Yeah for real. Now last
Speaker 1: year again, we don't have to relitigate it. But Lamar
Speaker 1: wasn't horrific, you know what I mean? Like, there was
Speaker 1: there was a lot that went into oh wow that
Speaker 1: there's a lot that went into the the Ravens playoff loss.
Speaker 1: But here is some news. Yeah, wow, this is shocking
Speaker 1: to me. So Rashi Rice news and I don't know
Speaker 1: how I feel about this, to be honest with you.
Speaker 1: All Right, So Rashi Rice is expected to have his
Speaker 1: disciplinary hearing with the NFL on Tuesday, September thirtieth in
Speaker 1: New York. This means Rice is likely to be able
Speaker 1: to play the first four weeks of the season before
Speaker 1: any potential discipline is imposed for his role in a
Speaker 1: multi car crash last you know in the twenty twenty
Speaker 1: four offseason with Rashid. This is from schefter. With Rashi
Speaker 1: Rice's hearing now dractor or September thirtieth, that would make
Speaker 1: him eligible play in the Chiefs opening four games, the
Speaker 1: Chargers in Brazil, the Eagles at the Giants, and the Ravens.
Speaker 1: All Right, I gotta tell you, I assuming that he's
Speaker 1: not going to get ten games, and I don't think
Speaker 1: that's likely. I think the I think it is probably
Speaker 1: gonna be four, five or six. That would be my guess.
Speaker 1: This is kind of ideal for Kansas City because for
Speaker 1: three reasons. Demonse One is that opening month is brutal,
Speaker 1: you know, neutral site against the second best team in
Speaker 1: the division, home game, super Bowl rematch. Week two, week
Speaker 1: three at the Giants, and again the Giants are gonna
Speaker 1: have a great pass rush, but they're not a very
Speaker 1: good team. And then home for Baltimore two. To have
Speaker 1: that be to know Rice is gonna be there for
Speaker 1: those games when the next handful of games are at Jacksonville,
Speaker 1: home for the Lions, home for the Raiders, home for Washington,
Speaker 1: that stuff at Buffalo they lose that game every year.
Speaker 1: Then a bye week like that timing I like a lot.
Speaker 1: That's first of all. The other one is this, I
Speaker 1: like the idea of the Chiefs being able to start
Speaker 1: the season whole, like see what you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: see what it looks like. And then you treat the
Speaker 1: suspension like a pulled hamstring, like, oh, he's gonna be
Speaker 1: out six weeks. That's a bummer. But we already saw it,
Speaker 1: so I expected the suspension to be, you know, at
Speaker 1: least those first four games. It's now not. I mean,
Speaker 1: if he's not having his hearing until September thirtieth, he
Speaker 1: definitely Now The concern would be if the NFL like
Speaker 1: throws the book at him and all of a sudden
Speaker 1: he misses the entirety of the rest of the year. Like,
Speaker 1: what if the league gives him a twelve game suspension
Speaker 1: and now instead of being back for the final month
Speaker 1: of the year, he's out until the final game of
Speaker 1: the year. But I don't think. I think when Jordan
Speaker 1: Addison got three games for DUI, I think Rashi Rashi's
Speaker 1: was different, Like it was wildly dangerous and irresponsible. There
Speaker 1: were minor injuries, but he also wasn't impaired at least
Speaker 1: they you know, wasn't proven to be. So I don't
Speaker 1: so I think it will be probably double Jordan Addison
Speaker 1: four or five or six is what I think will happen.
Speaker 1: But the timing of that's really really lucky for Kansas City.
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