Speaker 1: Okay, ready, here be my no wind down with Janet
Speaker 1: Kramer and I'm Heart Radio podcast.
Speaker 2: That was so weird. That was weird. I am dying
Speaker 2: right now.
Speaker 3: There's so much going on because we so Sarah Hi
Speaker 3: Hi Hi guest host today.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, it's like a girl's day and it is.
Speaker 3: It is so pumped. Michael is not here. We will
Speaker 3: explain later, but I just have to first talk about
Speaker 3: the fact that Access Live just like while we started
Speaker 3: recording this was playing about like hiring the hot nanny.
Speaker 2: That is you were everywhere.
Speaker 3: Well it's funny because I got so we talked about,
Speaker 3: like you know, obviously the nanny quit and we were
Speaker 3: hiring a new nanny, and it's funny. Some of the
Speaker 3: comments that I got were like, she's so insecure, and
Speaker 3: I said, and to me, it's like Jana Kramer's so insecure,
Speaker 3: and I want to be like, it's not about being
Speaker 3: insecure again. I think any whether my husband's cheated or not,
Speaker 3: I still think it's from like, don't let's look.
Speaker 4: At it from a history point of view. Jude Law
Speaker 4: cheated with the nanny, Ben Affleck ended up with the nanny,
Speaker 4: so Vin Rasdell cheated on the you know, it's not
Speaker 4: the craziest thing ever I have.
Speaker 5: So you're human who was like a super hot chick
Speaker 5: around all the time.
Speaker 3: And like playing mommy And it's not And it's not
Speaker 3: that I'm insecure about it at all. But it's funny
Speaker 3: they showed that clip about from Sex and the City
Speaker 3: when you know, Charlotte got that new nanny and she's
Speaker 3: like bouncing with no bra her boobs like up and down.
Speaker 3: I'm like, that's exactly what I'm talking about. Like, I again,
Speaker 3: I am not in I have my insecure moments. I
Speaker 3: won't say that I'm not insecure because I definitely have
Speaker 3: those moments, but you know, I just think it's not
Speaker 3: smart to have that.
Speaker 6: Happens so much too. It's sort of the ultimate cliche.
Speaker 6: He left her for the name.
Speaker 3: But you're round this person twenty four to seven, which
Speaker 3: is kind of the point where people when you go
Speaker 3: on set, I understand how people can fall for their
Speaker 3: set partner because you are with them twenty four secs.
Speaker 3: So as much as you love your spouse or you
Speaker 3: love your husband, I can see how boundaries might blur.
Speaker 3: So let's say I'm out of town again, whether the
Speaker 3: infidelity was in our history or not. I can see
Speaker 3: the boundaries blurring because you're around them.
Speaker 5: Turn the tables, and once you reveal where Mike is,
Speaker 5: we can ask him this later. What if Mike decides
Speaker 5: to get a trainer and she is smoking hot Gazelle
Speaker 5: single Gazelle, what are you feeling.
Speaker 2: I'm working out with him?
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm not working out with Mike like I
Speaker 4: mean if my man, I'm working out with him.
Speaker 2: Is that what you'd say?
Speaker 6: You'd be cool with Gizelle being cle Gazelle.
Speaker 2: Our trainer together ours?
Speaker 3: So this is tricky because there is that piece of
Speaker 3: infidelity with ours. Yeah, I will say this is a
Speaker 3: tricky part. But having said that, I will agree with
Speaker 3: Sarah I would work out together.
Speaker 5: Now, what if Mike asked you you to not have
Speaker 5: that trainer? How do you feel about so? So Giselle? Okay,
Speaker 5: so I'm gonna switch it. Okay, So if I had
Speaker 5: the hot we have, I did it wrong. Oh my gosh,
Speaker 5: I'm so dumb. I just did it again.
Speaker 2: Okay, a the comments.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Amy's an idiot. I get it. I'm an idiot. Okay,
Speaker 6: Bradley Cooper, we have your trainer.
Speaker 3: I I know my boundaries. I would that would not
Speaker 3: be smart.
Speaker 6: Ryan Reynolds is your trainer.
Speaker 2: I'm I and what if you're down with it?
Speaker 5: You're like, I'm cool with Ryan Reynolds being my trainer,
Speaker 5: but Mike says, hey, I don't really want Ryan Reynolds
Speaker 5: to be your trainer?
Speaker 6: Are you or are you okay?
Speaker 3: So I would I need to respect Michael does a
Speaker 3: great job of respecting the boundaries that I have that
Speaker 3: I said, what would make me feel safe? So it's
Speaker 3: not about this is I think in the very beginning
Speaker 3: with us is it's not about saying you can't do this,
Speaker 3: you can't do this. It's more about saying this doesn't
Speaker 3: make me feel safe when you do this, So can
Speaker 3: you not do this? So, for example, I don't think that,
Speaker 3: And I know that Mike would never want me to
Speaker 3: train with Gleb. He's a you know, was my dance partner.
Speaker 6: I was going to bring that up.
Speaker 3: I just wanted to, so, you know, I don't think
Speaker 3: that when it's someone that is, yes, are these people
Speaker 3: attractive that were naming yes?
Speaker 4: Yes, But you're also like you don't really sweat, you
Speaker 4: don't really turn red like you're like very hot when
Speaker 4: you work out, Like I'm a sweaty monster. So like,
Speaker 4: no trainer is going to be like, yeah, I'm done
Speaker 4: with her.
Speaker 5: So some of the weeds on it, she's like actually
Speaker 5: on the treadmill, I'm like, I feel like, yeah you.
Speaker 3: But I would understand Mike saying I don't want you
Speaker 3: working out one on one in those close patentis not
Speaker 3: because he doesn't trust me, because I do think he
Speaker 3: trusts me. But I just think, again, it's your You're
Speaker 3: playing with fire when you're that close.
Speaker 5: No, what about that?
Speaker 3: Which is why I have a female trainer, But not
Speaker 3: saying that, I wouldn't like there's another guy that I
Speaker 3: trained with in Nashville. He was great, you know, he
Speaker 3: was big and whatever. But I again, I that's not
Speaker 3: my thing. I don't really like the big body.
Speaker 2: I actually like woman.
Speaker 5: There is a theory that like, Okay, so you go
Speaker 5: to the trainer and he's all hot Bradley Cooper, Ryan Reynolds,
Speaker 5: Ryan Gosling, whoever you like, and it kind of fires
Speaker 5: you up. So then you come home and you're all, hey, Mike,
Speaker 5: I will say this.
Speaker 2: I mean there is something to be said.
Speaker 3: There is something to be said about I. You know,
Speaker 3: we like to show off when we work out, So
Speaker 3: I work out better when I'm with Mike because I
Speaker 3: want to show off. I want to look sexy. I
Speaker 3: want to look like, yeah, Bay, look look how much
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh whatever, deadlifting?
Speaker 2: Look at these mountain colon you.
Speaker 6: Know, look at these badlifting. I don't even know if
Speaker 6: that means.
Speaker 3: I don't even think I said it right. So I
Speaker 3: think that there's something to be said for that. But again,
Speaker 3: I think it's just it is playing with fire. And
Speaker 3: even if I you know, you could say, all right, well,
Speaker 3: what if you book a role and you're in close
Speaker 3: vicinities with the people, because there's I'm really close with
Speaker 3: one of the guys that's played my husband and two
Speaker 3: of the movies, Kevin McGary, and actually he's friends with
Speaker 3: Michael too. But you know, we we had boundaries. You know,
Speaker 3: there's no reading lines in your hotel room, because yeah,
Speaker 3: I did that when I was in my twenties and
Speaker 3: it didn't turn out great.
Speaker 2: Oh you know, ohay looks like you know, I'm Mary.
Speaker 3: Now you have to set boundaries and boundaries and so
Speaker 3: that's the if it's you know, circle back to the
Speaker 3: hot trainer.
Speaker 4: We would need to do it together. It's all about boundaries.
Speaker 4: But if you're attracted to someone, then there's obviously a problem.
Speaker 4: Like I don't think you should be around anyone that
Speaker 4: you're attracted to.
Speaker 2: Well, this is I mean, like, actually you're what's the.
Speaker 5: Everyone's actually attracted to one hundred people.
Speaker 6: That doesn't mean they're gonna go well no.
Speaker 4: But I mean every day, like like if you brought
Speaker 4: someone that maybe you think is not attractive. Like let's
Speaker 4: say you get a nanny and you don't think she's attractive,
Speaker 4: but maybe Mike is like or not. Let's just say
Speaker 4: a husband is like, oh, she's not.
Speaker 7: Not.
Speaker 4: Like I'm saying, if I feel like, if you're gonna
Speaker 4: be around someone all day, every day or for a
Speaker 4: certain amount of time, if there's even like a luteens
Speaker 4: like I would maybe maybe not.
Speaker 5: I mean, I love you, but that's just totally not possible.
Speaker 5: I just have to just I don't know.
Speaker 3: Well, And here's the thing too, Michael and I talk
Speaker 3: about this. There's attractive people out there.
Speaker 8: Everyone.
Speaker 3: He's looking at the street, He's like, Oh she's an
Speaker 3: attractive person, or oh he's an attractive guy.
Speaker 2: But it's not. Yeah, but she's not staying in your
Speaker 2: house every night. Well that's my point.
Speaker 3: So that's that's where it's like we can say that
Speaker 3: there's other attractive people. We're not gonna be blatant and
Speaker 3: be that invite them in. Yeah, but it's about all
Speaker 3: about being like you can't say I don't want you
Speaker 3: to look at someone No, no, no, it's I think someone
Speaker 3: else is pretty or of course, but no, yes I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't want to necessarily invite them into the house.
Speaker 3: But that doesn't make me insecure. To the to the
Speaker 3: women that are saying that I'm insecure or you know,
Speaker 3: I don't think I agree.
Speaker 5: You human, I have like hot friends and I'm like,
Speaker 5: how about you don't come for tonight?
Speaker 6: Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: You're like, oh, I mean that's so true.
Speaker 3: I mean there's I got in the very beginning of
Speaker 3: even the stuff with Mike, and I would be like,
Speaker 3: can you cover up? But like it just was I
Speaker 3: felt that was when I was in secure, you were
Speaker 3: because I was just like I didn't feel secure. But
Speaker 3: now I'm like, oh whatever, Like sometimes.
Speaker 5: I use it to my advantage too, though, I'm like,
Speaker 5: bring all the hot girls.
Speaker 6: Maybe he'll like it, do.
Speaker 9: You know what I mean?
Speaker 4: Like, I don't know, I mean, but ty though, I
Speaker 4: feel like, would he want a hot nanny or what?
Speaker 3: No, I mean but just everything, I mean, would you
Speaker 3: do you get insecure?
Speaker 2: No with Tie?
Speaker 4: That is one thing I do have with him, as
Speaker 4: I trust him one hundred percent.
Speaker 2: I think he's too scared to do anything to be honest, and.
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, like and honestly, he couldn't pull anything off,
Speaker 4: like let's be honest, what month is it, by the way, comes?
Speaker 4: But yeah, that's one thing that I don't that I'm
Speaker 4: not concerned about. There are other things that you know
Speaker 4: what I mean, Like everyone has their thing everyone.
Speaker 2: What's your concern with him?
Speaker 10: Then?
Speaker 4: I mean obviously hello, oh besides the ring, I mean
Speaker 4: that's a major concern, Like hello, I don't know where
Speaker 4: we are right now, but like that's amazing. It needs
Speaker 4: to have him before Gina f or I don't even like,
Speaker 4: I mean, I would have just screamed it right now.
Speaker 4: But I'm so tired. You don't know what it went
Speaker 4: through to get here. Okay, the traffic today was terrible.
Speaker 4: It's like I felt like I was an episode of
Speaker 4: Game of Thrones.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I've never even seen Game of Thrones.
Speaker 2: I just threw that out there. Oh my god, I
Speaker 2: don't know.
Speaker 3: I just but it has to have right by by
Speaker 3: June because he leaves in June for a couple of months.
Speaker 6: Not put a time on it.
Speaker 3: No, there needs to be by Sarah's sake.
Speaker 2: It's are we.
Speaker 3: Allowed to talk about the other thing that happened in
Speaker 3: Napa or I need to know so badly, she teased me.
Speaker 5: I'm so confused what happened your fight with the I
Speaker 5: know there was a fight. I heard about it, but
Speaker 5: then what was so funny? I heard about it, But
Speaker 5: by the time I heard about it, you too were
Speaker 5: thick as thieves. It's like the fight worked to your
Speaker 5: advantage later because you became close you can totally.
Speaker 2: Talk about I'm kind of scared though, I.
Speaker 4: Was, you know, I'm like anything, I'm I feel like
Speaker 4: it's a Housewives reunion, Like I'm not excited for anything,
Speaker 4: and I'm so excited to hear this, like I need
Speaker 4: to hear it.
Speaker 5: We do have a caller on the line, toy, will
Speaker 5: you tell him where going to talk about one more thing?
Speaker 6: And then we'll come back.
Speaker 4: No, we can talk to him, all right, Let's talk
Speaker 4: to him first and then we'll go back to my teasing.
Speaker 2: We're choosing fight.
Speaker 6: Okay, so much happen.
Speaker 3: Okay, we're gonna, We're gonna, We're I'll go back to
Speaker 3: this easton so I'll say, Okay, so I want to
Speaker 3: talk about the fight because I kind of teased you
Speaker 3: on the phone, Sarah, So I'm teasing you.
Speaker 2: Guys.
Speaker 3: Right now, we will talk about it. We have a
Speaker 3: caller on the line. But first, let's let's take a break. Okay.
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Speaker 3: that I have you on the phone, I can announce
Speaker 3: that today is vasectomy Monday.
Speaker 2: Who So my.
Speaker 3: Husband is having a vasectomy today. Actually, but I have
Speaker 3: been told that you have four kids, you do not
Speaker 3: want to get a vasectomy. But you have a fun
Speaker 3: story about some friends.
Speaker 9: Yeah, so I actually have a couple of friends that
Speaker 9: have done it, and probably one of the best stories.
Speaker 9: So a friend of mine went in on a Wednesday
Speaker 9: and he had to kind of, you know, shave up
Speaker 9: and get all prepped up. And so we had the procedure,
Speaker 9: which he said was pretty simple, but the doctor had
Speaker 9: told him, he said, you know, you're going to have
Speaker 9: to ejaculate twelve times and then come back.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he didn't come back no.
Speaker 9: But he said, okay, I'll see you Friday.
Speaker 2: Oh are you serious.
Speaker 9: Yeah, but I think it's bit longer than that. I
Speaker 9: think it was probably just as But anyway, that was
Speaker 9: pretty good.
Speaker 12: The doctor got a good laugh.
Speaker 2: That's that's really cood.
Speaker 9: But but yeah, the other friend of mine, he's about
Speaker 9: fifty two now fifty three. I think his youngest is thirteen,
Speaker 9: and had a bestectomy probably about twelve years ago, and anyway,
Speaker 9: ended up just having a baby about a month ago.
Speaker 3: Oh well, you know what it must have been meant
Speaker 3: to be.
Speaker 2: That's what I kind of look at it.
Speaker 6: Sometimes it's not work.
Speaker 3: Well, I think they What I was told is that
Speaker 3: you have to go to the follow up. So after
Speaker 3: you ejaculate so many times you have Sarah, you were
Speaker 3: a twelve year old girl, I say ejaculate and you.
Speaker 4: Looked at me in the eye as you said it.
Speaker 3: Once Michael ejaculates, however many times he's supposed to do before.
Speaker 3: Then you have to go back to test the ferm.
Speaker 3: So if you don't go back, there's a chance that
Speaker 3: maybe it wasn't done right. So then it did, then
Speaker 3: it didn't work, but you have to go back.
Speaker 2: So I don't know if this is I think know this.
Speaker 9: There's two different people. So the one guy did you
Speaker 9: know he go back? But he went back, but the
Speaker 9: other guy actually went back as well. But even after
Speaker 9: twelve years, it.
Speaker 2: Maybe just kind of loosened.
Speaker 7: It moved back into.
Speaker 9: Position oh wow wow, which is unfortunate because you know,
Speaker 9: he's when the youngest is thirteen and the others are
Speaker 9: starting to get out of the house to get the
Speaker 9: little Yeah, a little.
Speaker 13: Stressing for sure.
Speaker 3: Well, I'm definitely gonna mark that down to ask Michael
Speaker 3: what the doctor said about that, because I have heard
Speaker 3: that before and I'm interested to see if anyone else
Speaker 3: have had that story. So email me at Jane Kramer
Speaker 3: at iHeartMedia dot com.
Speaker 6: Like, should you get your tubes tied versus the vasectomy?
Speaker 2: We did?
Speaker 3: And he said, He's like, well, you're already down there
Speaker 3: getting a C section, why don't you just tire tubes?
Speaker 3: And I said, because that's that's final. And I don't
Speaker 3: know if I'm one hundred percent final yet because I
Speaker 3: up until last night I told Michael, do we really
Speaker 3: want to do this? And I was like crying about it.
Speaker 3: Oh my yeah, because this is a dumb question. So
Speaker 3: the vaseectomy is you can reverse it. You can reverse it.
Speaker 3: You can also take a needle and heel out or
Speaker 3: suck out sperm.
Speaker 2: And then I.
Speaker 5: Why don't you just put some in a couple jars
Speaker 5: and save.
Speaker 3: It later because it dies free them. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 3: that's six And Doug, why didn't you do it?
Speaker 9: Why did I do I didn't do it because I
Speaker 9: just in case anything ever happened, uh to my wife
Speaker 9: or the children or whatever. I just wanted to be
Speaker 9: able to continue procreating.
Speaker 6: And how did your wife feel about that?
Speaker 9: Well, she had her tooth tied, so.
Speaker 3: Well, then yeah done if she if she had the
Speaker 3: final That's the thing. I've talked to another girlfriend of mine.
Speaker 3: If you are final about it and you know that,
Speaker 3: then I think it's easier when you're down there getting
Speaker 3: the sea section. Yeah, tie the tubes. But I just
Speaker 3: who knows. I just I don't want to just say
Speaker 3: I don't know. It's like, yeah, I feel like I've
Speaker 3: done enough too, you know. It's just I don't want
Speaker 3: to take away the fact that I couldn't have kids.
Speaker 9: So yeah, and so oh yeah, well that's dangerous. I
Speaker 9: mean a procedure after you know after it, like, are
Speaker 9: you sure you want the tooth time?
Speaker 13: I get yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2: All right, Doug, you're the best. Thank you. I'm going
Speaker 2: to call the husband and see what he says, so
Speaker 2: I appreciate it.
Speaker 9: All right, all right, mart.
Speaker 2: I will say.
Speaker 3: Michael said something really sweet to me last night. He goes,
Speaker 3: you know, he said, it's nice to know that. He's like,
Speaker 3: when I've been in relationships before, I've all always kind
Speaker 3: of thought about the next relationship. Oh, so he's like
Speaker 3: with this, he's like, I don't think about like, oh
Speaker 3: I if this doesn't work out, then I'm gonna have
Speaker 3: kids with someone else.
Speaker 2: I was like, that's that's good. Good, it's a good No,
Speaker 2: That's what I was gonna say.
Speaker 4: Is I think what my brother someone got a visect
Speaker 4: me and now they're divorced, and so I was kind
Speaker 4: of like, huh, well, now what is he going to
Speaker 4: do because she made him get that, and now I'm
Speaker 4: sure he's going to meet someone else, and I'm sure
Speaker 4: she might want to have kids because he's still young
Speaker 4: enough to do it.
Speaker 2: But I feel like that's kind of asw.
Speaker 3: Many kids does he have too? Well, it's kind of
Speaker 3: the same thing. So My brother has two kids and well,
Speaker 3: actually him and his girlfriend just broke up. It's awful.
Speaker 3: Hate this because she's like the most incredible thing ever.
Speaker 3: But they were about to have well, you know, they
Speaker 3: were thinking about their future. My brother was going to
Speaker 3: reverse his oh for her, for her mark. Do you
Speaker 3: have a visectomy?
Speaker 8: I did. I'm a proud you guys.
Speaker 2: I am like so clueless on this. I had no idea.
Speaker 4: This was like a thing I'm to text my mom
Speaker 4: and I was like, well, no, I know people do it,
Speaker 4: but I didn't know. Like my I'm like, does my
Speaker 4: dad do it? He had five daughters. I mean he's
Speaker 4: obviously fertile. Af Like, I'm sure he was like, let's
Speaker 4: cut this. What did he have it? I don't know
Speaker 4: if I'm still waiting to hear about. Okay, so how
Speaker 4: was your sector?
Speaker 1: It was fantastic. I recommend that to every guy I meet,
Speaker 1: because their guys are such wooses about the whole thing.
Speaker 1: Really they really, Oh they're scared. Oh I don't want that.
Speaker 1: Oh it's gonna hurt. Oh, come on, it's the greatest.
Speaker 1: The second my youngles was born healthy, we made the
Speaker 1: appointment immediately.
Speaker 3: Goodbye recovery because that's what I'm the most nervous about
Speaker 3: with Michael, because he's such a love you sweetheart, but
Speaker 3: you thank you.
Speaker 8: Okay.
Speaker 1: So I mean it's probably different for everybody. But here's
Speaker 1: what I would tell Michael. He's having it today, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: this gives you a nice excuse to sit on the
Speaker 1: recliner for a day or two. But day or two,
Speaker 1: that's it. He cannot milk this through the weekend. Please
Speaker 1: do not let him. Yes, I got mine on a Friday.
Speaker 1: I put a piece bag of frozen pie on my
Speaker 1: genitalia over the clothes while I watched television that evening, okay,
Speaker 1: and I kept waiting for the novacne to wear off
Speaker 1: and the pain to kick in.
Speaker 8: It never did, So it's that easy. It's that easy.
Speaker 12: I think.
Speaker 1: A couple of days later, I ran up the stairs.
Speaker 1: I felt, oh oh, but that was it?
Speaker 2: Wow? When did they say you could go back to
Speaker 2: sexual It was only a few weeks, maybe two?
Speaker 12: Three?
Speaker 2: Few weeks.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it wasn't bad because then I also had to
Speaker 1: get I had to give a sample. That was probably
Speaker 1: the worst part was the sample giving.
Speaker 2: Can you do the sample at home?
Speaker 7: Though?
Speaker 1: I did, because if you're within thirty minutes of the office.
Speaker 1: You can do that, and we were and so I
Speaker 1: did and I brought it in. But the look, I mean,
Speaker 1: and they do this for a living, but the look
Speaker 1: on the woman's face when I dropped off a sample,
Speaker 1: she was so disgusted by me. And I'm like, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: I have to and it's your job. And it was
Speaker 1: in a brown paper bag. It wasn't even just like.
Speaker 2: In a car.
Speaker 8: I'm sorry.
Speaker 3: We have a doctor on the line, doctor Jeannette, Hello,
Speaker 3: Hi doctor, and the hi doctor. So my husband had
Speaker 3: a seck to me today. What what do I need
Speaker 3: to know because I'm scared about his downtime and then also,
Speaker 3: what are the chances of us having a baby again
Speaker 3: with the easeectomy?
Speaker 7: Hey, Jina, So nothing to be afraid of. This is
Speaker 7: a very common procedure and it's the type of male
Speaker 7: birth control. Basically, what it does is it cuts off
Speaker 7: the supply of sperm to this teament, which obviously is
Speaker 7: what gets you pregnant. Downtime is minimal for your for
Speaker 7: your partner, it will not affect his sexual performance. It
Speaker 7: will not cause any damage to his sexual organs or
Speaker 7: increase the risk of cancers or anything like that. He
Speaker 7: rolled the app by whoever performed the procedure to you know,
Speaker 7: rest and take it easy for a little bit. But
Speaker 7: very common and it's very safe and it has very
Speaker 7: good results. Ninety nine percent over ninety nine percent. Nothing's
Speaker 7: one hundred percent effective. But the chances of you getting
Speaker 7: pregnant are extremely low. But it's still possible even though
Speaker 7: it's great, it would be rare for that to happen.
Speaker 2: Well, so when.
Speaker 7: But it's already jan it's already been done.
Speaker 2: Yeah, should Why should he reverse it already?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 7: I was, I was. I wish I could have asked you,
Speaker 7: why are you doing it? What's the purpose of it?
Speaker 7: If you're in the middle of a crisis, Wait until
Speaker 7: it's over, don't do it now. If your husband is
Speaker 7: young and I don't know how many children do you have?
Speaker 2: We have two kids?
Speaker 14: Oh?
Speaker 7: Okay, okay, good, so you've got kids. I mean, if
Speaker 7: you're one hundred and ten percent sure you don't want
Speaker 7: more children, then that's definitely a good option.
Speaker 2: And now you know, I wasn't one hundred and ten
Speaker 2: percent sure.
Speaker 7: Okay, Well, it's still possible to have babies in the future.
Speaker 7: You would just have to do it another rock. For example,
Speaker 7: in betrue fertilization, it is possible to reverse it, but
Speaker 7: it's very difficult. It's very complicated, it's very expensive. If
Speaker 7: you decided in a few years you wanted to have
Speaker 7: another baby, then you know your you can try it
Speaker 7: in a different round, even though it wouldn't be through
Speaker 7: you know, the traditional sexual intercourse, but your body will
Speaker 7: his body will still make firms, so it's still possibility.
Speaker 7: It's still probable to have children in the future, just
Speaker 7: in a different route. But I'm hoping you had this
Speaker 7: discussion with his doctor, with your doctors about all this
Speaker 7: before you went through it all.
Speaker 2: Oh, no, for sure, absolutely, yeah, definitely.
Speaker 7: All right.
Speaker 3: Well, I just wanted to give the wine down a
Speaker 3: little doctor advice, so we appreciate it, and I'll chat
Speaker 3: with you.
Speaker 7: So yeah, so good. I hear you live in Natural.
Speaker 7: My whole family lives in Natural.
Speaker 2: Oh yay. It's the best place ever.
Speaker 7: Awesome, awesome. We listen. You have a wonderful day, and
Speaker 7: I'm here if you guys, never have any questions in you.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much.
Speaker 7: You're welcome, good luck with everything.
Speaker 2: Okay, bye, okay bye.
Speaker 4: Should we call Mike, she just scared that living why
Speaker 4: it's so final?
Speaker 2: Well, I feel like she was like, is it already done?
Speaker 2: Whish I know that it's okay. It really does make
Speaker 2: me sad.
Speaker 4: But I think that I don't even yeap. What am
Speaker 4: I saying? I don't know.
Speaker 2: Should we call Mike? Let me know? Wait? Should we
Speaker 2: pretend like I'm like really upset.
Speaker 8: Changing your mind?
Speaker 2: Change my mind?
Speaker 10: Should we?
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's frank him? Okay, Okay, frank them? Okay, Oh,
Speaker 2: this is so exciting, Like she's actually.
Speaker 4: Like, Mike, Hello, Hi, it's me Janna is She's well,
Speaker 4: first of all, how are you feeling?
Speaker 12: I'm okay, I'm surviving.
Speaker 4: Okay, Janna is not okay right now?
Speaker 12: Your daughter?
Speaker 4: She's really she's just like really sad. I feel like
Speaker 4: she kind of maybe like had a panic attack that
Speaker 4: like this just happened, you know, and like it's done,
Speaker 4: and now she's just like kind.
Speaker 2: Of a basket case. She's like bawling.
Speaker 4: It's making me really uncomfortable, and I don't I mean,
Speaker 4: I feel like we kind of were like, you know,
Speaker 4: it's it could be reversed, but I don't know, I
Speaker 4: don't know. She's I think that like you, but I'm
Speaker 4: glad to talk to you and that you're okay.
Speaker 2: I just don't know what to say to her. Mm hmm,
Speaker 2: Like like should I just be like, hi, honey, she
Speaker 2: made me do it?
Speaker 4: Hi?
Speaker 2: They literally I was like, this is.
Speaker 4: So mean, and I've been I was like, I need
Speaker 4: to get into character because I can't handle this.
Speaker 2: Baby toy sold it too. Hey baby, how's your peepy?
Speaker 2: Oh so we're going into it. We're run into it.
Speaker 2: That was Sarah. It's not me. I said, how's your peepy?
Speaker 12: My fine?
Speaker 2: Oh it's so Yeah.
Speaker 8: They sliced into your nards.
Speaker 4: Oh.
Speaker 2: I thought it was this penis remix.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: Really, I thought there was a vein in the penis
Speaker 2: they take out.
Speaker 12: Oh, it's the it's the pathway from your scrotum up
Speaker 12: to your penis.
Speaker 1: They take out of you because the sperm comes from
Speaker 1: the testicle, so they just kind of make it into
Speaker 1: a dead end.
Speaker 2: Oh see, I thought they block it from the head
Speaker 2: of the penis. Oh you thought it was just like
Speaker 2: a roadblock. Yeah yeah. Oh out, they're like removing part
Speaker 2: of the road the road, so you have half of
Speaker 2: a ball now.
Speaker 12: No, no, I love you.
Speaker 3: Oh wait, so baby, no, like in all seriousness, like,
Speaker 3: tell us kind of give us the.
Speaker 2: Rundown of what happened.
Speaker 12: Are on right now?
Speaker 2: Yeah, we've been on.
Speaker 12: Nobody's safe for usual. It's right in it. Honestly, it
Speaker 12: kind of stopped. I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 2: It sucked, like.
Speaker 12: Yeah, because I'm laying there on the table, just completely
Speaker 12: exposed from the waist down, okay, and you know he's
Speaker 12: prepped and everything, and he's just to inject the needle
Speaker 12: a couple of times into my and.
Speaker 2: He thought that did they give you numbing or no?
Speaker 12: Well, that's the numbing that he was putting in.
Speaker 2: Oh so you felt it.
Speaker 12: Yeah, well I felt them put the needle in.
Speaker 1: For me, that was the worst part was the numbing
Speaker 1: of the area. That was the only pay that I
Speaker 1: felt was the numb.
Speaker 12: Yeah, that sucked. And then it was super duper quiet
Speaker 12: while he's doing it. So when he first when he
Speaker 12: did the first side, it took a little longer for
Speaker 12: whatever reason, and it was quiet. I'm sitting I'm sitting
Speaker 12: there just playing in my head like what exactly he's doing.
Speaker 12: I could easily I could easily dop my eyes and
Speaker 12: look down and even what he was doing, but I
Speaker 12: didn't want to.
Speaker 2: Yeah, now I wouldn't either, So it.
Speaker 12: Was just trying to get out of my head of like,
Speaker 12: this is what he's doing right now, right opening up
Speaker 12: my ballpacks and going into it and removing that part.
Speaker 12: And then he used the boby to burn off the
Speaker 12: ends of the two that he that he removed, so
Speaker 12: kind of like a if you have a shoelace that's
Speaker 12: fraid right, you burn it so it's all together again.
Speaker 12: So it's like doing that to either side of the
Speaker 12: tube in my ball back.
Speaker 8: Imember being a little disconcern.
Speaker 12: Yeah, then you see the smoke, and then you smell the.
Speaker 4: Book you're awake. This seems like a form of torture.
Speaker 4: It is How long did it like what happened?
Speaker 12: Yeah, it wasn't that long. It's probably, I mean fifteen
Speaker 12: twenty minutes tops. It felt like an eternity.
Speaker 1: But I think it's very sweet you're concern and for
Speaker 1: Mike because the childbirth that you've endured.
Speaker 4: Is what what are we saying? We's got to be Yeah,
Speaker 4: I appreciate that now as I did. I had a
Speaker 4: baby cut out of my stomach. Yeah, and he got
Speaker 4: a little needle in his peanut.
Speaker 12: We're going this is my day is.
Speaker 8: Yes, it is.
Speaker 1: And it's great that you do this because so many
Speaker 1: guys are afraid of this or there are a fusday
Speaker 1: think they're less of a man or something.
Speaker 8: So good for you for doing that.
Speaker 3: Okay, but Mark, say what you were going to say? Though,
Speaker 3: He's like you don't let him go ahead and put
Speaker 3: him with it. Look, I didn't say, I didn't say anything.
Speaker 3: You can milk this today and tomorrow. I think by Friday,
Speaker 3: I think you're going to be out of it.
Speaker 12: No Friday Friday, I'm good to go.
Speaker 2: Great, you heard it here, I'm good to go. I'm ready,
Speaker 2: I mean I was.
Speaker 3: I'm trying to be very you know, it is hard because,
Speaker 3: like Sarah said, he got a needle to his penis,
Speaker 3: I mean to his balls, and it's like.
Speaker 12: That sounds so easy, and.
Speaker 3: Fall I had a baby cut out of my stomach,
Speaker 3: you know, I mean literally a baby cut out of
Speaker 3: my stomach.
Speaker 6: You were able to.
Speaker 2: It doesn't doesn't matter.
Speaker 3: That's actually sometimes a better recfter it.
Speaker 8: This isn't a competition, there's no competition.
Speaker 2: You're good for Mike for doing both.
Speaker 3: Amazing can I say, though, Michael, what happens if.
Speaker 2: How do I say this? If we want another baby?
Speaker 3: Because you know, this is actually hard for me because
Speaker 3: I don't know if I'm if if I'm done, because
Speaker 3: because I truly do I would love another baby because
Speaker 3: I love babies. I know right now we can't have
Speaker 3: another baby, but down the road, like what if in
Speaker 3: a year or two?
Speaker 2: Oh my god, here we go.
Speaker 3: No, I'm just saying, like, what if in a year
Speaker 3: or two, I said, you know, I really want another baby, assistant.
Speaker 12: But we're candy and nuts Jesus, when the world would
Speaker 12: be a much sweeter price.
Speaker 4: Would you be mad at her if she said I
Speaker 4: want another baby? No, now you have to reverse it?
Speaker 6: My gosh, why didn't we do this last night?
Speaker 2: We did, and I cried about it.
Speaker 3: But I'm just but I know right now, I just
Speaker 3: just you know what you need to say?
Speaker 2: Right they will? You know her out were it?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 12: Well, if we really want to, when we get step placed,
Speaker 12: then we'll figure it out. We'll make it happen.
Speaker 4: But I also feel like there's so many other options. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I mean we've always wanted to adopt. Yeah, so I
Speaker 4: so that's something we've always wanted to do.
Speaker 3: I just love the baby, Like right now, I'm obsessed
Speaker 3: with Jason that baby stage. I just the fact that
Speaker 3: we might be done. When they're like drinking her, I
Speaker 3: feel like you'll be like I'm done. No, I'll be
Speaker 3: like I want another baby because I don't like to.
Speaker 5: And how is Michael so calm considering he just got
Speaker 5: a knife to his privates?
Speaker 6: Do they put the nice.
Speaker 12: It's still number right now? So I'm sitting on a
Speaker 12: bag of peas like I'm a head hatch in my egg.
Speaker 2: That's funny. That's what marks up. Can you just take
Speaker 2: a picture of that so I can see.
Speaker 6: So she can post it?
Speaker 13: Yeah, it heads up with me.
Speaker 1: I had the peace and I kept waiting for the
Speaker 1: pain to kick in with the novacane wore off, and
Speaker 1: it never really did. The peace kind of took it
Speaker 1: all away, and then I was fine. Really the next
Speaker 1: day I was doing okay. I just kind of laid low.
Speaker 12: Yeah, that's kind of what the doctor is telling me,
Speaker 12: is like, if you keep king it, you won't really
Speaker 12: feel it. Yeah, the painment kas can go away.
Speaker 3: So hopefully, Well, honey, I'm going to take care of
Speaker 3: you because I love you, and I'm I'm going to take.
Speaker 2: Good care of you.
Speaker 12: Yeah, that's why you're here right now taking care of me.
Speaker 3: I don't know, Sarah, I don't know. Well, I you know,
Speaker 3: said we got to work still, you know.
Speaker 9: Ben I did it.
Speaker 12: I mean, I get it. You know what's funny is
Speaker 12: conveniently we were when we took totally the Lego Land
Speaker 12: the other day, and we're in line for this ride,
Speaker 12: and there was a family family with kids, four kids
Speaker 12: again from probably no older than six to unborn. So
Speaker 12: the family had three kids, and the wife was pregnant
Speaker 12: with the fourth, and Jane and I, you know, we're
Speaker 12: at a talk. She's like, you know, if we had three,
Speaker 12: I'll definitely just want four to make it even.
Speaker 13: Oh yeah, we're in line.
Speaker 12: And I'm like blatantly pointing out this family who was
Speaker 12: like trying to round up all these kids in this
Speaker 12: line waiting for like an hour. I'm like, really, that's
Speaker 12: what you want right there, look at those parents faces,
Speaker 12: that's what you want.
Speaker 2: I want.
Speaker 3: I want the family stone dinner table. That's what I
Speaker 3: want when the kids are all grown up.
Speaker 12: You know, yes, that sounds crazy. The end game sounds amazing.
Speaker 12: It's the next twenty.
Speaker 2: Years, all right, baby, I love you.
Speaker 12: All right, you girls, that's fun.
Speaker 8: Okay, keep them in line, Mark, I'll do my best.
Speaker 8: I got your best, all.
Speaker 2: Right, thank you, brother, love you both.
Speaker 3: Build that bye, all right, I love you.
Speaker 2: Oh man, I just I have to I have to
Speaker 2: do what's the word.
Speaker 3: I have to literally in my head be like, okay,
Speaker 3: I need to just accept that he's not going to
Speaker 3: be active around the house the next two days. Even
Speaker 3: when I had my C section, day two, I was
Speaker 3: walking around taking care of stuff.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Literally, day two I walked out of the hospital and
Speaker 3: was taking care.
Speaker 2: Of the kids.
Speaker 6: Definitely going to be playing video.
Speaker 2: I was going to say, the credit card I watching
Speaker 2: right now. He's fine.
Speaker 3: I know, I know, I said I. I wrote it
Speaker 3: down in my in my book and my intention book
Speaker 3: that I need to just give him.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Well two days yeah yeah, and he gets like super
Speaker 4: triggered and then guess what time's up?
Speaker 6: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 5: I'm still like befuddled by the fact that he had
Speaker 5: a vasectomy, despite the fact that you didn't really want
Speaker 5: him to.
Speaker 3: It's not that I didn't want him to. I just
Speaker 3: I know right now, we don't want babies. And I
Speaker 3: will say this too, And even Michael said, he brought
Speaker 3: up a good point last night. He goes, do you
Speaker 3: really want to go through everything we went through miscarriages?
Speaker 3: And I really that's what I think. That's what hurt
Speaker 3: because no, and I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't.
Speaker 3: If I have another miscarriage, I'm gonna keep trying until
Speaker 3: I have that baby again.
Speaker 2: So it's just gonna be.
Speaker 4: Well, it gets like anything obviously, anytime it's the night
Speaker 4: before something, you go through panics, you know, because I
Speaker 4: mean I feel like even when you were like about
Speaker 4: to go in and have it's like panic mode. Yeah,
Speaker 4: so I feel like that's normal to be stressed because
Speaker 4: it's like, Okay, tomorrow this is gonna happen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but all right, let's take a break. All right.
Speaker 3: So Mike and I, as you guys know, we are
Speaker 3: moving to Nashville, and we're so excited, but we are
Speaker 3: fighting over our mattress. Well actually we used to fight
Speaker 3: over our mattress, but we don't anymore.
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Speaker 12: That's so not true.
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Speaker 3: Oh babe, let's not go there. Okay, oh, that's a
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Speaker 3: All right, So we're going to take one more caller
Speaker 3: just so I can kind of get everything down about
Speaker 3: the sect to me.
Speaker 2: Todd, are you on?
Speaker 12: Yes?
Speaker 3: I am, all right, let's hear it. How was your vasectomy?
Speaker 3: Tell me all about it?
Speaker 14: My best sext to me was very uncomfortable. I would
Speaker 14: not say that I loved it. I drove myself over there.
Speaker 12: I wanted to be alone. I did not want somebody
Speaker 12: to drive me or any of that.
Speaker 14: So went in, go through the whole waiting process, and
Speaker 14: then it all just seems very primitive. They started giving
Speaker 14: me shots and then the area, and then they start
Speaker 14: poking around, and then they're saying, oh, do you feel this?
Speaker 14: And I'm thinking, really, this is the way it goes, like,
Speaker 14: I'm supposed to tell you when I feel something, and
Speaker 14: then we know that we're numb or we're not. So
Speaker 14: I found all of that very unsettling. And you know,
Speaker 14: as a man, I'm obviously not used to I'm very
Speaker 14: used to paying thank you. I'm not used to having
Speaker 14: thing around in there under unpleasurable circumstances. You know, we're
Speaker 14: not right, we're not trained through an annual examine surus.
Speaker 14: This is like my my one and only, first of all,
Speaker 14: a male being down there, and you yeah, well there
Speaker 14: was that time in college playing around and poking around
Speaker 14: and asking for feedback.
Speaker 12: You know, it's all.
Speaker 14: Very uncomfortable, and it was a very nice surgery center,
Speaker 14: but you're still staring at one of those awful feelings
Speaker 14: with the cardboard square.
Speaker 2: I get it.
Speaker 3: That's where I had a baby sucked out of my
Speaker 3: stomach for my c section, so cut out of my stomach.
Speaker 3: So I'm sorry that your balls were hurt.
Speaker 14: Yeah, my balls didn't have a good day that day.
Speaker 12: They didn't have a good.
Speaker 14: Probably two weeks after that.
Speaker 2: Has it worked though?
Speaker 7: Have you?
Speaker 2: Has it been two weeks?
Speaker 6: So you were laid up for two weeks with the peas?
Speaker 14: I mean no, no, no, not not. Oh yeah, there
Speaker 14: was definitely a different sort of practice than my routine afterwards. Sure,
Speaker 14: I mean I stayed home for maybe a day. Maybe
Speaker 14: I went to work the next day with my ice packed.
Speaker 14: I don't know, but yeah, in effect effect performance of
Speaker 14: daily life for probably two weeks.
Speaker 2: What about performantual performance?
Speaker 14: No, no, no, sectual has to be a couple of
Speaker 14: weeks off. That's the one I find. I'm plining about lifting.
Speaker 14: I'm talking about walking around and all of a sudden,
Speaker 14: you're making that weird grown noise when you stand up
Speaker 14: off the couch. It's like age me. For two weeks
Speaker 14: it made me an old man?
Speaker 2: Oh did you walk?
Speaker 3: I am sorry your wife like, oh, permission to slap you?
Speaker 3: Why you don't realize what us women go through?
Speaker 14: And how know that it was a comparison it is
Speaker 14: that just.
Speaker 4: Sounds like like men's Like, yeah, that sounds like men's
Speaker 4: scrowns me once a month, like.
Speaker 14: Yeah, we have our list of responsibilities in life that
Speaker 14: are fairly exclusive to us as males as well.
Speaker 3: So wait, doesn't affect the actual I mean after the
Speaker 3: two weeks, say, two months later, do you notice anything
Speaker 3: when near uh? You know, I don't does any did
Speaker 3: you give him a good squeeze to make sure they
Speaker 3: were still like good intact?
Speaker 14: Well, I mean I didn't know what it was going
Speaker 14: to look like after and everybody you know mentioned, oh quantity,
Speaker 14: does the quantity change? Does the consistency change? I'll give
Speaker 14: you another phone number to call on that because that's
Speaker 14: not really my department. But I haven't noticed anything.
Speaker 3: Well, it's been a real joy. Todd, thank measure, thank
Speaker 3: you for coming on wind Down. I really appreciate it.
Speaker 2: He gave us detail. I know you're the best.
Speaker 4: Todd.
Speaker 2: Thank you, You're welcome.
Speaker 1: But that is a common misconception though, that nothing comes
Speaker 1: out or what comes out is very different. It's all
Speaker 1: the same. Like you, from your perspective, you'll notice nothing different.
Speaker 1: And really from our perspective.
Speaker 12: There's nothing.
Speaker 2: I've come to a conclusion. All right, conclusions, Sarah. I
Speaker 2: don't lie here. I do not feel bad at all
Speaker 2: at all. For the men.
Speaker 4: I've been having a period for ten plus years. That's
Speaker 4: three days, ten plus years.
Speaker 5: Try no, that's why I'm twenty five.
Speaker 3: In general, a woman like a woman goes through that
Speaker 3: that is me once.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well no, not once.
Speaker 3: I mean, I mean, I mean one week out of
Speaker 3: the month.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean down for the count. I am once
Speaker 4: a month. So like sorry about your two days, I'm
Speaker 4: also sorry about your nuts.
Speaker 2: Like you should see what's going on.
Speaker 1: I would say, the crams my wife deals with on
Speaker 1: a monthly basis, each one of those is worse than
Speaker 1: any pain I felt.
Speaker 8: Through physical cure.
Speaker 2: For sure brings you Tom Sure.
Speaker 3: I feel that we should get more empathy though for that,
Speaker 3: because I don't feel like that's acknowledged.
Speaker 2: It's not.
Speaker 4: And you want to know when it's acknowlogy, and we've
Speaker 4: talked about this before. When you start a fight and
Speaker 4: they say are you on your I mean.
Speaker 3: I tell you I hide the tampon things so Michael
Speaker 3: doesn't see you when I'm on my period because I say,
Speaker 3: oh crap, I was a little bit more sensitive. But
Speaker 3: that's not the reason why we thought it's not But
Speaker 3: I don't want him to say that was the reason
Speaker 3: why we find and I had the tampon stuff.
Speaker 2: You're a little crazy today? Are you in your period?
Speaker 2: But see, you know it's weird.
Speaker 5: I actually get crazy two days before I'm away crazy
Speaker 5: for two weeks.
Speaker 3: I'm one week before and then in my period I'm fine,
Speaker 3: But the week before I'm like, oh yeah, yeah, here
Speaker 3: it goes.
Speaker 5: What sort of God's punishment is? You're like, why am
Speaker 5: I crying? Why am I so upset? And then for
Speaker 5: two days you don't know and then you get your
Speaker 5: parent and you're like, oh, now I know why i've.
Speaker 3: But that's the worst excuse for guys to do. It's
Speaker 3: so it's actually infuriated, like.
Speaker 4: It's actually like jagged, like yeah, I turn into like
Speaker 4: spitfire with a do you ever.
Speaker 5: Have like this morning I woke up and was walking
Speaker 5: into the kitchen and I'm like, I'm really chemically balanced today,
Speaker 5: Like yes, do you never feel that?
Speaker 2: I feel that when I I feel that.
Speaker 4: Sometimes, Yes, you wake up and you look in the
Speaker 4: mirror and you say, Sarah, you've got a glow and
Speaker 4: I don't know what it's for and you're looking phenomenal.
Speaker 4: Now you go make that day, your bitch. That happens
Speaker 4: like once a month, like one day. The rest of
Speaker 4: the days, I wake up and.
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, I'm growing, grow.
Speaker 4: And I get out of it, and I'm like, ugh,
Speaker 4: like these guys are doing for one day the groan.
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Speaker 2: Okay, so what did what do you know about Stephanie Pratt?
Speaker 4: Just from what I've seen on the Hills so's two thousand,
Speaker 4: two thousand, two thousand.
Speaker 3: So I've never watched The Hills, so whatever, don'tki mathys
Speaker 3: I was I was a Laguna beach girl and then
Speaker 3: I and then I just watched The Hill. Yeah, so
Speaker 3: I didn't. I don't really know who she is. So
Speaker 3: who was she on the show?
Speaker 2: She's Spencer Pratt's sister.
Speaker 4: She was kind of like she kind of came in
Speaker 4: like hot at the end, like more when it was
Speaker 4: like the Christan Cavaleri. I'd say she was like a villain,
Speaker 4: but not she like cited she was. She was known
Speaker 4: for fighting with her brother. Okay, the most I would say.
Speaker 3: All Right, So my first interaction with Stephanie was here
Speaker 3: at the iHeart Student You and I we were playing
Speaker 3: the April Fools thing, so everyone kind of switched podcasts
Speaker 3: and so we were taking pictures.
Speaker 2: And I was like, oh, hey, I'm Jana.
Speaker 3: Nice to meet, and she's like, I've met you before,
Speaker 3: and I was like, oh okay. I was like, I'm
Speaker 3: so sorry, like I've never I've never I don't feel
Speaker 3: like we've ever met before. So I apologize, like I
Speaker 3: was mortified, like absolutely mortified. Yeah, because I truly didn't remember.
Speaker 3: I just I'm so good at I'm good at remembering that.
Speaker 3: So I'm just like, I know we didn't meet. And
Speaker 3: I was like, I really, I don't think she's like
Speaker 3: or it was someone at that Heart studio. So then
Speaker 3: when she said that, I was just like, oh, so
Speaker 3: she's just someone she doesn't really know who the heck
Speaker 3: I am. She just thinks I'm just some girl that
Speaker 3: does a podcast. So from that moment on, I just
Speaker 3: felt so kind of just dismissed and the wronged me
Speaker 3: the wrong way. So, you know, I can just kind
Speaker 3: of shut I could just shut off at that point
Speaker 3: and be like, all right, whatever, because you know, I
Speaker 3: don't know anything about you either. I knew you were
Speaker 3: on the hills, but I don't don't know your story.
Speaker 3: But from that moment on, I just kind of shut
Speaker 3: her off and okay, because again, she just has no
Speaker 3: idea who I am, and she just thought that I
Speaker 3: was some random check that she met that does a podcast.
Speaker 3: You felt like she didn't really care to like yeah, yeah, okay.
Speaker 3: So that was kind of the first interaction. And then
Speaker 3: we went on the NAPA trip and everyone's like saying
Speaker 3: hi to everybody, and she doesn't say hadn't really anybody,
Speaker 3: And so to have a conversation with someone usually started
Speaker 3: being like, hey, how are you. That's how you usually
Speaker 3: like start a conversation, Nice to see you, whatever, but
Speaker 3: she didn't, so no one really then interacted. Okay, and
Speaker 3: then when she got in she's like, what's everyone's names?
Speaker 3: So we were kind of just like, well, we all
Speaker 3: we like, we know you, you've met everyone, So it was
Speaker 3: just kind of that again. We I think we all
Speaker 3: maybe from the perspective, from my point is that it
Speaker 3: just seemed like again it was just like a very
Speaker 3: dismissal and she just didn't care. Yeah, okay, So by
Speaker 3: that point, I was like, I'm done. I don't know, Easton,
Speaker 3: what did you think that was? Strike three? Can I
Speaker 3: bring you in this on the season because you were
Speaker 3: sitting there, because that was again she didn't really because
Speaker 3: I just want to make sure that it's not just
Speaker 3: from my point of view and you can call me out.
Speaker 2: This was in the car.
Speaker 13: Yeah, I mean that's how it went down.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 13: I was sitting next to her, and that's exactly how
Speaker 13: it went down.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, so you're Validata, thank you.
Speaker 3: No, I just want to make sure because I don't
Speaker 3: want you know, she's not here to defend herself. Yeah,
Speaker 3: so that is how that happened. Didn't really like seem
Speaker 3: to like talk to anybody else. And so when we
Speaker 3: were at the event, you know, again, not much was
Speaker 3: really talked about because I was we were doing our podcast.
Speaker 3: So then cut to the dinner scene dinner table.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, this is like a Housewives episode.
Speaker 3: And well, actually two minutes before that, Amy came out
Speaker 3: of the room and was like.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, like stuff's going down in there. And
Speaker 2: I was like, what's going on.
Speaker 3: She's like, oh, she's talking about Heidi and yeah, I
Speaker 3: listened and Spencer and stuff, Okay, listen. So I didn't
Speaker 3: hear it, and so I was like, oh, like, and
Speaker 3: I don't know anything, Like, I know nothing. So when
Speaker 3: we're at the dinner table, cut to then the dinner table,
Speaker 3: it's me, Tanya, then Stephanie, and across from me is
Speaker 3: Wells and Derek and Easton. Poor Easton is sitting at
Speaker 3: the head of the table and witnessed all of this,
Speaker 3: like literally all of this. So I'm sitting there and
Speaker 3: I looked to my left and she's there, and I'm like,
Speaker 3: you know what, I'm going to engage with her because
Speaker 3: I haven't talked to her, so I want to engage
Speaker 3: with her.
Speaker 2: People.
Speaker 3: I've heard things, I've heard rumors about her, and I
Speaker 3: just wanted to write my own judgment, judgment, my own opinion,
Speaker 3: because maybe I came at it the wrong way. Okay,
Speaker 3: So I look to my left and I say, so,
Speaker 3: do you really not like Heidi?
Speaker 2: Oh, no, you didn't. I don't know no story, Dan,
Speaker 2: but no, you did not.
Speaker 3: I'm just trying to engage because she was just talking
Speaker 3: about it. So I was just literally trying to engage
Speaker 3: in the conversation.
Speaker 4: She didn't like that. I'm going to guess that she
Speaker 4: did not like that. She snapped back at me so fast.
Speaker 3: She's like, I'm not talking about that here, and I
Speaker 3: was like, oh, okay, and.
Speaker 2: I did respond like that kind of.
Speaker 3: Okay, confused, okay, sorry because she snapped back in such
Speaker 3: an aggressive way.
Speaker 4: That you were like but I was just like, I'm
Speaker 4: not going there. You were stunned, but I was just
Speaker 4: She's like, that is my work. I was talking I
Speaker 4: was talking about that on my podcast, and I said,
Speaker 4: I'm so sorry. I was I literally was just trying
Speaker 4: to connect with you because I don't feel like we
Speaker 4: have a lot in common, so I was trying to
Speaker 4: connect with you on a different level. And you know,
Speaker 4: I heard that you were talking about hide yeah, because
Speaker 4: it's my work and we're at a dinner table right now,
Speaker 4: and I was like, okay. I literally was just trying
Speaker 4: to have a conversation with you.
Speaker 2: I'm so scared. I can't imagine. Well, but I was
Speaker 2: just like, Easton, is this all correct?
Speaker 15: This is all correct? You came at her in a
Speaker 15: very kind and warm way. I might add, You're just like, oh,
Speaker 15: so you don't really not like just trying to talk
Speaker 15: to you. You weren't like going out her anything.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was just trying to have a conversation, like obviously,
Speaker 3: so she was very upset that I but I was
Speaker 3: just so confused. I'm like, because you were just talking
Speaker 3: about it. But she was like, that's my work and
Speaker 3: that's my you know.
Speaker 2: And here's the thing. I do respect that.
Speaker 3: When we when we went outside and finally talked, and
Speaker 3: she said she doesn't talk about her personal life and
Speaker 3: on the everything minus the podcast, I'm.
Speaker 2: Both gonna say, that's a little confused. So that's why
Speaker 2: I was confused.
Speaker 3: But whatever, if that's her process, that's her thing, she's
Speaker 3: at a table, that's fine. I can respect that. But
Speaker 3: it was the way that she came at it from me.
Speaker 3: So then by that point I was like, you know what,
Speaker 3: you like, I'll do that. Whoa ill, Sorry, sorry, Mark,
Speaker 3: that's fine. We're just a little but at this point,
Speaker 3: I was I was three days before my period, so
Speaker 3: I was like fighting in there, like now it comes out,
Speaker 3: you know. That was I was like, we're there, and
Speaker 3: so I was just like, okay, sorry, So I was
Speaker 3: being immature at this point. I just I just started
Speaker 3: saying sorry, like I.
Speaker 2: Didn't mean to. I mean, sorry, you feel that way.
Speaker 2: I hate when people say that to me. It's like
Speaker 2: you made me feel this way.
Speaker 3: So then ethan end of the table is just like
Speaker 3: his head's just going back and forth witnessing all this,
Speaker 3: and he's so uncomfortable, and I felt so bad.
Speaker 2: Wells.
Speaker 3: Wells is actually here right now overhearing this conversation. He
Speaker 3: left the side of the our table. I went out
Speaker 3: to go take a phone call. My girlfriend called, and
Speaker 3: everything was really fine.
Speaker 10: And then I come back in and it was just
Speaker 10: like an episode of The Hills was there.
Speaker 2: I was like, I probably could have used that footage.
Speaker 3: On it, but at that point I was like, oh,
Speaker 3: I'm in this, like let's go wear the camera, so
Speaker 3: let's roll. So anyways, so then I'm like, she's like,
Speaker 3: I was not being defensive. I was like, you were,
Speaker 3: but it's fine. So at this point I'm like checked out.
Speaker 3: I don't care.
Speaker 2: I know I'm going for it. So then but then
Speaker 2: she goes to my husband.
Speaker 3: She goes to the end of the table and goes,
Speaker 3: your wife is being mean right now. And I go,
Speaker 3: I stand up, I literally stand out from the tables.
Speaker 2: There and I go, are you seriously.
Speaker 3: Talking to my husband right now about me? Whose side
Speaker 3: do you think he's going to be on? You were
Speaker 3: being rude and that's a fact.
Speaker 2: And she was like.
Speaker 3: And basically stormed do I And then and then so no, no,
Speaker 3: she stormway. She came back and we started like it
Speaker 3: was a point where I was like, there's gonna be it.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna hit her, there's we might there might.
Speaker 3: Be So I'm like, I'm gonna have to like guardy
Speaker 3: if she would throw down. Well, I got a little scared,
Speaker 3: and then I started to talk. I got a little warm,
Speaker 3: and I was about to start crying. And I was like,
Speaker 3: don't cry. Don't crush girl, cry right now, Like, don't
Speaker 3: do this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, did you cry? I wanted to. I was there.
Speaker 2: I was so there.
Speaker 3: I don't like conflict, and this is like the most
Speaker 3: conflict I've ever had in my entire freaking life. And
Speaker 3: so I was Then finally I was like, use your
Speaker 3: therapy tools. Use your therapy tools, use it, use it.
Speaker 3: So I was like, you both were probably saying the
Speaker 3: same things in your head. She's like, breathe, breathe and
Speaker 3: use your therapy.
Speaker 7: Like.
Speaker 3: So I said, Stephanie, if you want to talk about this,
Speaker 3: let's go outside and talk about this because I'd love
Speaker 3: to talk to you about our first experience. She's like,
Speaker 3: you've been rude to me from the very beginning. I
Speaker 3: was like, well, I have a very interesting experience from
Speaker 3: the beginning, so let's talk about it. Maybe we do
Speaker 3: the wrong way. So, because we weren't hurt and we
Speaker 3: didn't feel heard, so she went away. She came back
Speaker 3: and she was very ready to talk, and I said, yes,
Speaker 3: and my Heusin's looking at me. What the eth is
Speaker 3: going on? I was just like, oh, one moment. So
Speaker 3: we go outside and we talk and it really just
Speaker 3: came down to him. This was a huge learning moment
Speaker 3: for me too, because two things. It wasn't probably right
Speaker 3: for me to ask that about Heidi. Yeah, and I
Speaker 3: did apologize for that because I genuinely was trying to
Speaker 3: make conversation with her.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that was.
Speaker 3: The only way I knew how because that's all I
Speaker 3: really know about her is that she has this drama
Speaker 3: with the Hills, and I thought that she'd be open
Speaker 3: to talking about it. Not everyone's open to talking about it.
Speaker 3: So with her response back, though it was a little harsh,
Speaker 3: I shouldn't have gone there.
Speaker 2: I shouldn't.
Speaker 3: I should have just stopped and said, you know what,
Speaker 3: I can sense that she's a little not today defensive
Speaker 3: about this or doesn't want to talk about this, and
Speaker 3: I should have been like, okay and then not taken
Speaker 3: offense to it. Well, and considering I did listen to
Speaker 3: the podcast, it honestly made me.
Speaker 4: I mean I was sweating through the whole thing. She
Speaker 4: was on one and so on the same side. It's
Speaker 4: kind of like, imagine like the worst day that you
Speaker 4: guys have had in here. It would be like if
Speaker 4: you went outside someone to know you and they're like, oh, so,
Speaker 4: like how's your marriage or something like along the outline.
Speaker 3: Totally so she but I do get that, but can
Speaker 3: I just say something. I'm saying there's no reason to
Speaker 3: like Well, in her defense, she said she wasn't and
Speaker 3: you know, sometimes I have to listen to this because
Speaker 3: my husband always says, I'm not being defensive, I'm just passionate.
Speaker 3: So maybe she was just being passionate about it, and
Speaker 3: I take passion sometimes defensive. Yeah, and that's my work
Speaker 3: that I have to separate that. So, you know, we apologize.
Speaker 3: We talked about our first meetings. She didn't feel hurt,
Speaker 3: I didn't feel herd but we were able to talk
Speaker 3: from a really good place. And then I learned a
Speaker 3: lot about her, and I was able to learn stuff
Speaker 3: from that I didn't know about her, and now things
Speaker 3: make sense.
Speaker 2: She now makes sense about the things. So we were
Speaker 2: able to kind of understall a circle and.
Speaker 5: Seems from so we have a NAPA group text, and
Speaker 5: I heard about the incident from wells, I don't know
Speaker 5: where I was. So then I saw her put something
Speaker 5: in the group text and I almost had diarrhea. I
Speaker 5: was like, oh God, oh God, she put something in
Speaker 5: the group text, like this is going to go bad
Speaker 5: for her. And then you did that heartheart thing, and
Speaker 5: I'm like, oh my god.
Speaker 2: Well, because here's at the end of the day.
Speaker 3: I don't like conflict. I don't like it at all,
Speaker 3: and I hate that it went there exactly. But I
Speaker 3: just went so offline because I was like, whatever.
Speaker 6: Ended up kind of tight? Maybe that's exact.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, we again know bad blood. There's zero bad blood,
Speaker 3: and I would love to get to know her more.
Speaker 3: My only thing is is that when we were at
Speaker 3: the airport, all she did was talk about Hidie and Spencer,
Speaker 3: so I didn't have to ask. But then I was like,
Speaker 3: why were you so upset about me asking that question?
Speaker 3: But yet here you are telling me everything about them
Speaker 3: and I'm not even asking. Oh my god, I'm next time,
Speaker 3: I'm just going to sit and listen and then I'll
Speaker 3: go all the Jesus.
Speaker 2: What do you think? Well, it was just today?
Speaker 10: Yeah, I think that, Like you listen to that podcast,
Speaker 10: it was hardy listened to it.
Speaker 2: Try a hosting what I'm saying, like, I can't.
Speaker 10: I imagine we had diarrhea from a text message.
Speaker 4: I was just laughing because I know Amy, so hearing
Speaker 4: Amy panic through the whole thing, I was like, oh
Speaker 4: my god, what's happening.
Speaker 2: So I imagine she came out like I.
Speaker 8: Think she came out hot.
Speaker 10: Yeah yeah, so, and uh, like I feel like there
Speaker 10: was one part that you had it kind of glazed
Speaker 10: over in the retelling the story where I remember where
Speaker 10: you were, like from the moment you met me, you
Speaker 10: pretended like you met me, but you really hadn't or something.
Speaker 10: There was something like that that like she had said
Speaker 10: she had met you, but but really it was just
Speaker 10: someone else. Yeah, and you were like I remember a
Speaker 10: face and like it was like this, oh yeah, and
Speaker 10: I was.
Speaker 2: Like, what is happening like that? Yeah, we talked about that. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: Merlow was happening. Yeah, that's yeah.
Speaker 10: What do you expect if you send a bunch of
Speaker 10: idiots to NAPA for the weekend podcast?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I appreciate it.
Speaker 6: Wine.
Speaker 5: While y'all do your podcast, it's a great play.
Speaker 6: Oh my god, we're all record numbers.
Speaker 5: Not to do it a gratuitous plug, but if anyone
Speaker 5: listening wants to hear the prattcast just after you finished
Speaker 5: listening to Jaan, I.
Speaker 6: Just press pratcast. I mean you will hear.
Speaker 2: I was on a plane and it was well worth it.
Speaker 6: It is is it? Do they do? The kids call
Speaker 6: it spilling the tea?
Speaker 2: The coup runneth over.
Speaker 4: It was like I was shook it anyway and done
Speaker 4: with my thhs for the day.
Speaker 3: Well, well, I appreciate it, and I have a newfound
Speaker 3: uh you get it now, like you guys understand whether
Speaker 3: we understand each other?
Speaker 2: Yeah, were good, We see each other.
Speaker 6: We have a therapist that's gonna help Will this week.
Speaker 2: I need all the help I can get with Stephanie. Yeah,
Speaker 2: we got to break it down. Okay, we're good.
Speaker 3: Your your your work, wife and y'all are you guys
Speaker 3: aren't good or they're.
Speaker 6: Great with each other? Okay, hey love each other?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 10: I need a hell I need to help hosting the
Speaker 10: show at this point, and like trying to ma heads
Speaker 10: and tails of this whole thing. Yeah, and not get
Speaker 10: killed by Spencer and Heidi, which I feel like is coming.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 4: When she said they had weapons, I was like, listen,
Speaker 4: this is a lot allegedly.
Speaker 6: Barely having an opinion here, pup.
Speaker 2: Pure speculation, danger. I just want to know, is Heidi
Speaker 2: really crazy?
Speaker 4: I mean, okay, let me tell you was an I mean, hello,
Speaker 4: seen every episode one hundred million times?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 6: Really?
Speaker 4: Yeah, she seems so nice. That doesn't mean that she's
Speaker 4: not nice. I'm crazy, and I'm I think that there's
Speaker 4: I think that we're gonna.
Speaker 2: Have to do a deep dive.
Speaker 3: Can I just say something that really fast. I think spent.
Speaker 3: I love this is growing so far off. I'm sorry.
Speaker 3: I do like the fact that Spency Spencer, Spencer and
Speaker 3: Heidi have done so much work on their marriage. It
Speaker 3: looks like it seems like that, and I applaud them working.
Speaker 2: Through their hardship. I think your anniversary, I don't think
Speaker 2: that's amazing.
Speaker 13: I wouldn't.
Speaker 4: I wouldn't say she's crazy like that, like they're crazy otherwise.
Speaker 4: But yeah, anyways, all right, well thanks, thank you, yeah
Speaker 4: for coming on. Anything else you want to wrap up
Speaker 4: about that?
Speaker 13: Are you in that moment?
Speaker 15: I didn't know if I wanted to teleport out of
Speaker 15: that room or go get the microphones, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: I'm like, it was no, you should have done like that, yeah,
Speaker 2: phone footage exactly.
Speaker 13: I was eating a tunic taco and I was like,
Speaker 13: it was like in the way of the door.
Speaker 2: Have you ever seen me like that before?
Speaker 7: You know?
Speaker 15: The thing I've noticed about you, you you are very
Speaker 15: direct with people, and you ask people the questions everyone
Speaker 15: else wants them wants to ask, but is too afraid to.
Speaker 15: And that was the first time I've seen you like
Speaker 15: really get into it with somebody, and I was like,
Speaker 15: I was like, oh my god, I wish, I wish.
Speaker 13: I was like, Jana, I.
Speaker 2: Feel like the mistake was going to Mike. That's probably
Speaker 2: when you went it like I.
Speaker 3: Was, that was gone before that, well before that was
Speaker 3: that was the cheer on the top. I was like,
Speaker 3: all right, I'm saying that this is fun. I'm having
Speaker 3: fun with you. Two did come back in arm and
Speaker 3: all we thought, yeah, I made it.
Speaker 2: It was good. All right. Oh my mom just texted
Speaker 2: me back. All right, what did your mom say? Oh
Speaker 2: my dad did not get a ptectomy. He didn't. My god,
Speaker 2: five daughters and he didn't. That's crazy.
Speaker 8: Yeah, the freedom is fantastic.
Speaker 3: All right, that's hilarious. Okay, Sarah, thanks for coming on
Speaker 3: the show. Of course, I love you.
Speaker 2: You're the best. This was This was exciting.
Speaker 4: I mean I came in thinking we were going to
Speaker 4: talk about like all the like thirst chopping at Coachella,
Speaker 4: but we're talking about vaseectamy.
Speaker 2: So this was like the SECTI me is, Oh my god,
Speaker 2: this was like quite quite a quite a day. All right.
Speaker 3: We can't wait to wind down next week. Hopefully Mike
Speaker 3: will be off his bag of peace, we'll see Stay
Speaker 3: tuned