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Speaker 1: All right, all right, welcome to our bonus show, the

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Speaker 1: show gram program known as over Promised with Covino and Rich. Yeah, buddy,

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Speaker 1: you may know us from Fox Sports Radio Monday through

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Speaker 1: Friday two to four on the West, five to seven

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Speaker 2: But we can't fit all of this now call it

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Speaker 2: ThisDay into two hours.

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Speaker 1: So we bring you over Promised And today we have

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Speaker 1: a special guest.

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Speaker 3: And let me tell you, the minute you get involved

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Speaker 3: in the coaching world, hard to avoid this guy, because

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Speaker 3: I think he's the best of the best. We welcome

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Speaker 3: to over Promised and Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Coach Ball Game James. What's up man?

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Speaker 4: Welcome, High praise, high praise. You guys are awesome. At

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Speaker 4: the sound of your voices makes me want to be

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Speaker 4: a better coach right away.

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, glad we could inspire you at a coach

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Speaker 2: is right.

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Speaker 3: I'm telling you the minute I started coaching my daughter,

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Speaker 3: I'm doing eight U softball and pony ball T ball

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Speaker 3: for my son. And the minute you look up one

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Speaker 3: coaching thing on social media, it's in your algorithm. That

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Speaker 3: becomes your algorithm. And I'm like, who's this guy?

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Speaker 2: He's great? And that is coach baseball from my favorite thing.

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Speaker 3: I learned alligator vacuum, groundball alligator vacuum. So coach ball game.

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Speaker 3: I got to start by asking how did this all

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Speaker 3: come about? Like, how did you become coach ball game man?

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Speaker 4: Well, I hope you got about four and a half days.

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Speaker 4: But it starts in North Carolina. I love playing baseball

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Speaker 4: with my brothers, my father in the backyard. We play

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Speaker 4: sandlot ball in the backyard. Had a small house but

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Speaker 4: a really big backyard, so we'd invite all the neighbors.

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Speaker 4: And the love of the game started right there with

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Speaker 4: just a broomstick and a tennis ball. I was fortunate

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Speaker 4: enough to go to Brown University and play baseball there

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Speaker 4: four years. Nice career hit by pitch record holder at

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Speaker 4: Brown University asked Chris Berman at a boy and from

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Speaker 4: there I didn't get drafted. I had an eye opening moment.

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Speaker 4: I was facing Justin Verlander in college and he threw

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Speaker 4: me a curveball that was stripe three. I did not swing,

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Speaker 4: but I did dry heave. I almost threw up on

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Speaker 4: I was destined to do something other than play baseball.

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Speaker 4: So I moved to California. I started coaching with some friends,

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Speaker 4: and I was a really bad coach for about five years,

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Speaker 4: but I had really good mentors that showed me how

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Speaker 4: to engage, how to teach love of play. And my

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Speaker 4: It just working turned into coachball game when I started coaching.

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Speaker 4: So it's been twenty one years of figuring it out, learning, failing,

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Speaker 4: but here we are having a great tame you.

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Speaker 2: Know, coach ball game.

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Speaker 3: It dawned on me last night I went from coaching

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Speaker 3: my kids to playing softballlas night. I play a couple

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Speaker 3: hitting line drive still, and I realized I looked around them,

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Speaker 2: Men that love baseball.

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Speaker 3: And then I'm thinking all these kids could very well

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Speaker 3: It's just the love of baseball that we all have,

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Speaker 3: like you said, from playing stickball with football it We're

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Speaker 3: all just kids that love this game, love it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I've been coaching for twenty one years and there's

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Speaker 4: one kid that made it to the major leagues. One ye,

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Speaker 4: there's hundreds and thousands of kids that became fathers, went

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Speaker 4: First teached love of play so their careers last longer.

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Speaker 4: How many life lessons can you teach on a baseball field?

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Speaker 4: It's barely baseball. I think a good coach changes a game,

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Speaker 4: but a great coach changes lives, you know, hundreds and

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Speaker 4: thousands of them. So good on you, man, you're changing lives.

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Speaker 4: Tell an eight.

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Speaker 1: Year old we're here at the world famous coach ball game. Now,

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Speaker 1: Rich is a coach as well. I'm a cheer dad.

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Speaker 1: I'm not a coach, but I want you to know

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Speaker 1: I do have twenty seven little league home runs under

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Speaker 2: Thank you. But I got to ask you this.

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Speaker 1: Mitch Hedberg, the comedian, said, only one piece of sports

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Speaker 1: equipment has made it to the mainstreaming. Only one sports

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Speaker 1: hat has made it to the mainstream wardrobe, and that's

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Speaker 1: the baseball cap. But you chose the Fedora. I gotta

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Speaker 1: know why, because when Rich was like, you know, coach

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Speaker 1: does the Fedora guy. How did that happen?

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Speaker 4: Well, I have my mom's side of the family is

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Speaker 4: that whole culture. This is the vibe, it's music, it's dancing,

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Speaker 1: Let me ask you this to as a as a

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Speaker 2: Burnaby Williams, Bernie Williams, Jarge Pasada?

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Speaker 1: Who else is Yankees for me? Those are the guys

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Speaker 1: you know? Who are they for you? After Roberto Clemente.

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Speaker 4: Well, I've got a conga and I call it the

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Speaker 4: And I've gotten a lot of Hall of famers to

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Speaker 3: You know, coach ball game. What I love about you

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Speaker 3: is the enthusiasm and the fun you bring. I think

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Speaker 2: I try to keep it loose. I bring music to

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Speaker 3: I'm being silly with the girls and the boys baseball

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Speaker 4: Absolutely?

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Speaker 4: First of all, good on you when you're in the

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Speaker 4: to build trust with them first, so I let them know, yes,

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Speaker 4: I'm a grown up, but I'm here to listen to you.

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Speaker 4: I'm interested in you as a person. That's straight out

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Speaker 4: of the Dusty Baker book of become a savant of people.

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Speaker 4: So when you build that trust, you ask questions about

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Speaker 4: number one rule of Sandlot. And I don't pick them.

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Speaker 4: don't hear that as anger or militant. It's this guy

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Speaker 4: I don't try to be Jim Carrey. Once I figured

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Speaker 4: I really responded to humor. So I bring those three

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Speaker 2: Are you taking notes because I feel like you're trying

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Speaker 2: having fun with it. Honestly. It brings me more joy

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Speaker 3: Like watching these kids make progress, especially when a kid

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Speaker 3: on their swaying. That's it's a lot of joy. You

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Speaker 3: I saw you on. I don't know the pitchers mound

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Speaker 3: of throwing out a first pitch at Wrigley Well.

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Speaker 4: I'm a Cubs fan born and raised you know, grew

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Speaker 4: on WGN. That was my thing. So I fell in

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Speaker 4: The opportunity came up. I was doing a sandlot in

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Speaker 4: So I bring it out there and I start beating

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Speaker 4: I better make it count. And the guy who was

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Speaker 4: But yeah, yeah, I thought about my grandma. She loved

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Speaker 1: It's so cool, man, coach ball game here on over

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Speaker 1: promise with Cavino and rich, millions of views and followers

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Speaker 1: on social media. So appreciate your time. Got to ask you,

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Speaker 1: how do you handle it when your kid stinks, your

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Speaker 1: how do you handle that?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think as let's start with the parent. You

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Speaker 4: They can't be afraid of striking out five times. I

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Speaker 3: Do you now, with all the knowledge we have, how

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Speaker 4: Kids play better when they're feeling joy. But you can't

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but coach ball game, what if the parent is

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Speaker 4: Yes, that does happen, and you are the superhero you've

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Speaker 2: So there you go. That's how I actually did start

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Speaker 4: Are the superhero. You're waiting for I've met so many guys,

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Speaker 1: So jump in there if you're listening. James Lowe is here.

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Speaker 1: If you're watching his coach ball game, he's got the

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Speaker 1: Fedora on. And as kids have changed, kids have changed,

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Speaker 4: It's not for the skill. It's for their choices. I

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Speaker 4: I started out a bad coach. I started out shaming,

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Speaker 1: And that was a great answer. And I want to

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Speaker 1: reward you with your choice of Don Mattingley card here Man, which, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Take your pick. I'll take Don Russ nineteen ninety.

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Speaker 4: Well, you can't go wrong with nineteen ninety stash. But

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Speaker 4: the mustache. You're speaking my love language. Now. I've written

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Speaker 4: songs about Wade Bogs and Don Mattingley's mustache. Yeah, hey,

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Speaker 2: Weird not to get a dirty on the show.

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Speaker 3: But we used to say, if you were, you know,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, there you go. Keep you a game works.

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Speaker 2: We called it the Don Mattingly Stall mustache stall.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the mustache. The find thing is it might work

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Speaker 4: Paul Skins, thank you very much.

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Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure. I saw Randy Johnson strike a guy

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Speaker 3: You know, I'm glad to hear how much fun he

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Speaker 3: I'm glad I heard coach ball game talk about, hey,

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Speaker 2: Nice. And someone's like, is that bribery?

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Speaker 2: Coach ball game with Kavin un Rich.

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Speaker 3: I love the involvement that you have with Major League

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Speaker 3: softball and I posted a little video she was talking

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Speaker 3: about she loves softball and she's struggling a little bit.

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Speaker 3: Jenny Finch reached out, and the fact that Jenny Finch

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Speaker 3: gave my daughter a little message meant the world to her.

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Speaker 3: And I see you work with Bobby Witt Junior, one

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Speaker 3: of your heroes, Kavino, He's hanging out with Jeets.

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Speaker 2: I was so jealous. I know, amazing, so cool.

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Speaker 3: I mean, do these players I'm guessing they do, but

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Speaker 3: they've had a long journey to the bigs. Do they

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Speaker 3: understand the they have on these kids?

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Speaker 4: One hundred percent? Let's start with Jenny Finch. I work

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Speaker 4: alongside her for many of the NLB events that we do,

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Speaker 4: the All Star Game, the World Series, and she gets it.

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Speaker 4: She gets it. I mean, she's nobody's ever going to

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Speaker 4: match up to her level of talent, but she's actually

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Speaker 4: in the business of creating good humans and she really

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Speaker 4: thrives on changing these lives for the better. So it

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Speaker 4: doesn't surprise me that Jenny Finch did that. Derek Jeter, Wow.

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Speaker 4: So I mean at this point, I've met my heroes

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Speaker 4: and I've interviewed a lot of studs. I mean, this

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Speaker 4: guitar behind me, it's signed by Albert Poohols, It's got him,

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Speaker 4: and you know big Bird on there I've got baseballs

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Speaker 4: for Ozzie Smith and Andre Dawson, but getting to meet

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Speaker 4: Derek Jeter, one of the best of all time. None

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Speaker 4: of the kids knew who he was, all the parents

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Speaker 4: knew who he was, and to see him, no phone,

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Speaker 4: no entourage, just hand in hand with his two daughters,

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Speaker 4: and he was incredibly present with these kids. I was like,

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Speaker 4: top shelf player, top shelf individual. He's high fiving, he's

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Speaker 4: into it. There was no when can we get out

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Speaker 4: of here? Looking at his watch. I mean, he was

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Speaker 4: so great and he was communicating amazing life lessons to

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Speaker 4: these kids. I meet a lot of great players, it's

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Speaker 4: tough to find a great major leaguer that can also

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Speaker 4: engage and communicate with kids. He was a natural savant

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Speaker 4: at it. And his foundation they've been going for thirty

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Speaker 4: years and he really you can tell his parents did

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Speaker 4: it right, and he's he's way up there. You know,

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Speaker 4: maybe the top name on my congo drome.

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Speaker 1: How about that, Adam Boy and doctor Jeter raising a

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Speaker 1: good kid. And it's so cool to see you working

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Speaker 1: with these pros and super stars and all these kids.

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Speaker 2: It's so cool to see even the Savannah bananas.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I love the videos man, and I do

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Speaker 1: have one last question, because we have a lot of

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Speaker 1: parents listening and watching over Promise that are into you.

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Speaker 1: What sort of advice do you give the parents that

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Speaker 1: can't afford coaches and clinics and camps and things like that,

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Speaker 1: because you don't want your kid to fall behind.

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Speaker 2: How do you balance that?

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Speaker 4: I think people think, well, I got to have the

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Speaker 4: most expensive bat glove, you got to have a real

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Speaker 4: baseball field, foul lines, all that stuff.

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Speaker 2: No you don't.

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Speaker 4: You really just need a lemon and a stick. I

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Speaker 4: talk about Roberto Clemente. He grew up using a lemon

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Speaker 4: for a ball, a stick for a bat, trash for bases.

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Speaker 4: If you go down to the Dominican Republic right now,

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Speaker 4: you're going to see kids with no shoes, no coaches,

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Speaker 4: no parents, sharing some sort of stick and using an

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Speaker 4: old rag ball, and they're playing at an elite level.

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Speaker 4: So find whatever you can. Maybe that's a tennis racket

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Speaker 4: for a baseball, maybe that's a volleyball instead of a

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Speaker 4: real baseball, but just get them playing.

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Speaker 6: And as long as you can wrangle the kids and

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Speaker 6: be somewhat of a good pe teacher, you can have

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Speaker 6: a herd of kids have their friends come over to

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Speaker 6: a local park, drop those bases down and play some

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Speaker 6: fun version of baseball.

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Speaker 4: I think that's it. That's free. You don't need that

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Speaker 4: private lesson or anything like that. So yeah, it's hard

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Speaker 4: to believe what I do is novel that you just

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Speaker 4: find something to hit. I find a stick and go play.

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Speaker 4: But it has to become novels. So that's why I

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Speaker 4: go from city to city so people can see it

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Speaker 4: and go, oh, so that does exist.

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Speaker 2: That's awesome.

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Speaker 3: Coach Ball Game, thank you so much for your time.

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Speaker 3: Where can people find your stuff? Because I know you

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Speaker 3: do clinics. I know I gotta get myself. I got

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Speaker 3: to buy one of those at a boy out of

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Speaker 3: coach t shirts.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, man, absolutely at coach Ballgame on thesocials and Coachballgame

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Speaker 4: dot com is where you can sign up for any

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Speaker 4: of my camps. I've got an online coaching course where

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Speaker 4: you can watch lots of videos and skill like how

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Speaker 4: do you teach a kid how to how to cover

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Speaker 4: second base or how to hit it to the opposite field?

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Speaker 4: All those questions are answered. And then I got a

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Speaker 4: book coming out in a few weeks. I spent five

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Speaker 4: years writing my story of my coaching pillars and how

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Speaker 4: I got there. And there's a lot of name drops

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Speaker 4: that I've already dropped today. And and you know, like

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Speaker 4: a Derek Jeter, he taught me how to be present.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, at coach ballgame, all the good stuff.

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Speaker 3: One last random question, how do I get a How

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Speaker 3: do I get the kids to hustle in the game

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Speaker 3: like they do in practice or in their own house?

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Speaker 4: Oh? Are you talking about my own?

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Speaker 3: Like Mike, Like, my son will run around the neighborhood

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Speaker 3: like he's been in the jet Rodriguez and then he

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Speaker 3: runs the first base and he like to skip at

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Speaker 3: the first base like he doesn't even give a shit.

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Speaker 4: So this is a whole chapter in my book of

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Speaker 4: how to coach your own son or daughter and basically

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Speaker 4: hand them off to an assistant coach, Like go up

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Speaker 4: to one of the assistant coaches or you're you know,

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Speaker 4: maybe their uncle, somebody you know they really look up to,

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Speaker 4: and say, hey, can you just somehow get this kid

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Speaker 4: to hustle because you know, there's there's too much baggage

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Speaker 4: with me and with me being dad. So with my daughters,

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Speaker 4: I find that dance teacher or that coach, and I say, hey,

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Speaker 4: probably not going to hear me when I say it,

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Speaker 4: but they'll definitely hear you.

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Speaker 2: So that's good advice.

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Speaker 4: I have the the passed off as we call it,

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Speaker 4: passed that one off.

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Speaker 3: James, Thanks for your time, man, appreciate A big fan

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Speaker 3: of what you do. I'm I'm glad we got to connect.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, had it happened. I'll be listening.

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Speaker 1: Perfect, Thank you, my friend, James Low coach ball game.

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Speaker 1: And that's episode eighty seven, bro, perfect Bob. We'll see

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Speaker 1: you guys next time.

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Speaker 2: All read it. There you babe, you in the over

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Speaker 2: Promised Land. Goodbye,