Speaker 1: Also media, Hey everybody, did you know it's the super
Speaker 1: Bowl this weekend?
Speaker 2: Well, in honor of the Super Bowl, the game.
Speaker 1: I will be watching and enjoy so much, I wanted
Speaker 1: to re release this episode about the Super Bowl halftime
Speaker 1: show in the form of a profile of the amazing Brian.
Speaker 2: Gaw aka Left Shark.
Speaker 1: There has been a lot about Brian that has been
Speaker 1: coming out in the last couple of days because it
Speaker 1: is the ten year anniversary of a left Shark moment
Speaker 1: during the Katy Perry Super Bowl Halftime Show.
Speaker 2: Please enjoy this special re release.
Speaker 1: And a very merry Elvis Presto to us all. Welcome
Speaker 1: the sixteenth minute. I need to talk to you about
Speaker 1: a man named Elvis Presto.
Speaker 3: NL a Magic Com Entertainment present of Super Bowl Halftime Extravaganza.
Speaker 3: Sorry you had the brave suppressed.
Speaker 4: It's a digitation, Elvis.
Speaker 1: Presto, It's a free bamn.
Speaker 2: Maybe you're confused.
Speaker 1: What you just heard was a sixties style girl group
Speaker 1: think the Supremes impersonators, I guess talking over a very
Speaker 1: eighties looking bright colors and shapes digital screen, and then
Speaker 1: that fades to that same girl group addressing the camera
Speaker 1: in the middle of a gigantic, hacked football stadium. It's
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty nine, We're at the fucking Super Bowl, and
Speaker 1: the headlining act for the halftime show is a man
Speaker 1: called Elvis Presto. Let's have a theoretical conversation. Wait a second,
Speaker 1: you say, I've never heard of Elvis Presto. I roll
Speaker 1: my eyes and reply, I'm sorry. Try waking up for
Speaker 1: the first time in your life. Elvis Presto is, of
Speaker 1: course an Elvis impersonator who is also a magician, and
Speaker 1: so he's gonna arrive in the middle of the football
Speaker 1: field by way of.
Speaker 2: Some kind of magic.
Speaker 1: I didn't say great magic in that clip. Elvis Presto
Speaker 1: just kicked his way out of an old jukebox. He's
Speaker 1: not necessarily giving Elvis, but it's the beginning of the show.
Speaker 1: Let's give him a chance. You think, was Elvis Presto
Speaker 1: a popular act in the eighties that I just never
Speaker 1: heard about? Oh no, I reply, this was a character
Speaker 1: made up for the Super Bowl. Okay, you think, well,
Speaker 1: at least he's late by a professional Elvis impersonator.
Speaker 2: Right, No, he's not.
Speaker 1: Hello baby, this this fan is not an Elvis impersonator.
Speaker 1: I checked. Okay, you say, then surely he's a magician.
Speaker 4: The Robert You're going, no fun this card trick's doing
Speaker 4: the first you have to pick the card, come on
Speaker 4: and comeson train.
Speaker 1: For a card. He isn't a magician. The guy that
Speaker 1: plays Elvis Presto is not a magician. There is technically
Speaker 1: a feat of magic performed within this show, but it's
Speaker 1: all production. It's never Elvis Presto. There are so many
Speaker 1: things that happened in this twelve minute show, and none
Speaker 1: of them makes sense.
Speaker 2: It's awesome.
Speaker 1: There's hundreds of dancers and poodle skirts. There's guys on trampolines.
Speaker 1: There's flaming batons, one of which almost sets Elvis Presto
Speaker 1: on fire. There's one hundred motorcycles, and the central act
Speaker 1: is a character who was just made up a couple
Speaker 1: of weeks ago, performing quote unquote the world's largest card trick.
Speaker 1: And you won't believe this, but the world's Largest card
Speaker 1: trick didn't really translate.
Speaker 2: To TV at all. But the idea was.
Speaker 1: That there were four gigantic playing cards laid out on
Speaker 1: the field. Elvis Presto read the name of each card,
Speaker 1: and the crowd picked a card via applause, and then
Speaker 1: Presto the card everyone chose, the King of Hearts, which
Speaker 1: was the only character and the only heart, so pretty
Speaker 1: easy to stack the deck there, But Elvis Presto knew
Speaker 1: all along it was going to be the King of Hearts.
Speaker 1: This is how it plays out.
Speaker 4: Which card it's gone the feet depends on just how
Speaker 4: allowed you clap my friend card one, two, three, four,
Speaker 4: Now clap for the card that you don't.
Speaker 1: The cards you chose, only mister Presto knows.
Speaker 4: Prepare for my most mystifying feet, the cards you chose.
Speaker 3: There's only your seat.
Speaker 1: And at this point all of the dancers turn a
Speaker 1: card over to reveal a gigantic King of Hearts, and
Speaker 1: the audience is asked to flip their seat cushions over
Speaker 1: where there's also a picture of the King of a Hearts.
Speaker 2: Wow, I love this.
Speaker 1: This trick belongs at a kid named Evan's birthday party.
Speaker 1: But we're at the Super Bowl, so no, the man
Speaker 1: on the field isn't Elvis, and he isn't Presto. But
Speaker 1: you asked me, well, this guy is an actor, right,
Speaker 1: He's at least been cast for the part of Elvis Presto.
Speaker 1: He didn't just, for example, have to fill in for
Speaker 1: someone else and learn all of the choreography in three days,
Speaker 1: explaining why he doesn't sing live vocals, doesn't perform any magic,
Speaker 1: and doesn't look anything like Elvis. Well, here's an interview
Speaker 1: with a guy who played Elvis Presto from an NFL
Speaker 1: short talk back in twenty sixteen.
Speaker 5: After Solid Gold, I moved into choreography. I got a
Speaker 5: gig to choreograph the super Bowl. Reagan Patna was our lead,
Speaker 5: and he was perfect. He was like a blonde Elvis.
Speaker 5: He got a Lee Jeans commercial three days before the
Speaker 5: super Bowl and decided to quit the super Bowl and
Speaker 5: go do the Lee Jean's commercial. So it was like, okay,
Speaker 5: now what So.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he wasn't Elvis, he wasn't Presto, he wasn't an actor,
Speaker 1: and he wasn't a singer. And at this point in
Speaker 1: our theoretical conversation, your head is dangling off your fucking neck,
Speaker 1: and you're like Jamie at very least the bare minimum.
Speaker 1: Surely the musical selection that Elvis Presto plays are Elvis songs,
Speaker 1: doesn't He doesn't.
Speaker 6: He's crazy.
Speaker 1: No, No, he doesn't play a single Elvis song outside
Speaker 1: of saying hunka honk of burning Love in a transition
Speaker 1: one time. Not a single the song was licensed for
Speaker 1: this performance. Nor has this man done an Elvis impression before,
Speaker 1: Nor can he do magic or sing. This man had
Speaker 1: never appeared on television and never would again. He now
Speaker 1: owns a yoga studio in Portland, Oregon. It's my favorite
Speaker 1: thing I've ever learned. I've been healed by this information. Also,
Speaker 1: this super Bowl show was allegedly filmed and broadcasted in
Speaker 1: three D. Why did they call it Bebop bambozolsh Boy?
Speaker 1: And because great artistry is never recognized in its day,
Speaker 1: and I guess not for thirty five full years.
Speaker 2: After its day.
Speaker 1: People don't talk much about the Elvis Presto super Bowl
Speaker 1: halftime show today, something I hope to be a small
Speaker 1: part of rectifying here. But in spite of that, this
Speaker 1: is still a historically consequential super Bowl halftime show because
Speaker 1: when I thought of halftime shows prior to the sacred
Speaker 1: knowledge of Elvis Presto, I.
Speaker 2: Thought of basically a Vegas show.
Speaker 1: For the entire world, where a generational artist plays their hits,
Speaker 1: does a million costume changes, invites their past collaborators to
Speaker 1: play one of their songs. There's pirate technics, there's acrobats.
Speaker 1: In Usher's case, last year, I remember there being roller skates.
Speaker 1: It's a huge victory lap for a musician's career that
Speaker 1: isn't just for their fans. It's a world stage event.
Speaker 2: But upon further.
Speaker 1: Investigation, the Super Bowl has been going on for fifty
Speaker 1: eight years and this big concert aspect has only been
Speaker 1: true of the halftime show for about the last thirty years.
Speaker 1: Before that, you got mostly colorful, marching band slash baton twirling,
Speaker 1: kind of standard fare. Here's the former NFL Director of
Speaker 1: Special Events, Jim Steeg, talking about what the approach to
Speaker 1: the halftime show was free Elvis Presto. You really found
Speaker 1: very few name stars involved. It was more about filling
Speaker 1: the field with color and music, dancing stoke flakes. The
Speaker 1: super Bowl has been going on since nineteen sixty seven
Speaker 1: and was originally called the AFL NFL World Championship Game,
Speaker 1: and they would generally do what football halftime shows had
Speaker 1: been doing since the late eighteen hundreds in the US
Speaker 1: and still at American high schools today. There were marching bands,
Speaker 1: there were dancers, there were cheerleaders, there were demented levels
Speaker 1: of needless patriotism, and in the case of the Super Bowl,
Speaker 1: usually a celebrity guest or two who would sing an
Speaker 1: American standard. In the early days of the Super Bowl,
Speaker 1: this meant guests like Carol Channing, Ella Fitzgerald, and Andy
Speaker 1: Williams who performed a song or two in the halftime
Speaker 1: show in the seventies. In the eighties, shows were majority
Speaker 1: by nonprofit and military performance organizations, with themes like Salute
Speaker 1: to Motown, Hollywood's one hundredth Anniversary, and honestly a bunch
Speaker 1: of Boughton paid for Disney ads that stretched well into
Speaker 1: the nineties that kind of wound up just being a
Speaker 1: Disneyland parade on a football field. Quick side note, these
Speaker 1: weird Disney shows would go into the nineties as well.
Speaker 1: My favorite was a really bizarre nineteen ninety five halftime
Speaker 1: show that was meant to advertise the Indiana Jones show
Speaker 1: at Disney World, but they also put Patti Labella in
Speaker 1: it as a character.
Speaker 7: Wow, Indiana Jones, you're back at Jolty back, So now
Speaker 7: tell me shore Nick.
Speaker 8: I've given it.
Speaker 4: Joe Old, winner of Super Bowl twenty nine.
Speaker 1: Well that's the right attitude, baby, interesting full halftime show
Speaker 1: if you want to watch it.
Speaker 2: I was entertained.
Speaker 1: But in the late eighties the Super Bowl team was
Speaker 1: interested in creating more spectacle around the halftime show. The
Speaker 1: year before, Elvis Presto a contracted Radio City Music Hall
Speaker 1: to put a show together that featured Chubby Checker and
Speaker 1: the Roquettes and started to pull back from the standard
Speaker 1: marching band. Fair but it's still not quite there. Chubby
Speaker 1: Checker is still very much the featured act. It's not
Speaker 1: his halftime show. And then along came Elvis Presto, and
Speaker 1: sure people fucking hated it, but there's no other act
Speaker 1: in the show but him, And that was a first.
Speaker 1: Here's a particularly scathing review.
Speaker 4: The reigning principle was excess too many dancers, too many
Speaker 4: pastel colors, and the whole thing went on too long.
Speaker 4: Mister Presto's last trick was his best. He and the
Speaker 4: cast of thousands disappeared.
Speaker 1: You know what else, people hate it when it came out,
Speaker 1: Citizen Kane, probably.
Speaker 2: So Alvis Presco, Hey, baby.
Speaker 1: Okay, Elvis Presto happens in nineteen eighty nine, and then
Speaker 1: everyone quietly agrees that will never happen again. Nineteen ninety
Speaker 1: doesn't improve very much. There are iconic performers like Irma Thomas,
Speaker 1: but the theme is Charlie Brown's Birthday, complete with these
Speaker 1: terrifying Peanuts mascot costumes. Nineteen ninety one has New Kids
Speaker 1: on the Block headlining, but even they have to follow
Speaker 1: Roger Rabbit and Goofy breakdancing and an entire chorus of
Speaker 1: It's a Small World. In ninety two, Gloria Estefan kind
Speaker 1: of had to split the bill with US Olympic figure
Speaker 1: skaters and an entire hockey team. But in nineteen ninety
Speaker 1: three the formula is locked in. This is the year
Speaker 1: that Michael Jackson headlines, and we start to see the
Speaker 1: halftime show as what we think of it today. You
Speaker 1: weren't just getting a ticket to the biggest football game
Speaker 1: on the planet. You were also getting a ticket to
Speaker 1: one of the hottest concerts possible. After Michael Jackson, it's
Speaker 1: after the races for pop and rock megastars headlining the
Speaker 1: halftime show, with the exception of the Indiana Jones thing.
Speaker 1: Let's hear it again, Wow, Indiana Jones, You're back.
Speaker 4: Get help with that, So now tell me sure, what's nick?
Speaker 1: Sure, Patty. The nineties brought big shows from headliners like
Speaker 1: Diana Ross, a huge Motown salute, Gloria a stepan with
Speaker 1: Stevie Wonder instead of a hockey team. That's an improvement.
Speaker 1: And in the two thousands the show really hit its
Speaker 1: stride because that's when I started forming memories and so
Speaker 1: that's when history began. Just kidding, history began here. Who ah, sorry, Okay,
Speaker 1: the two thousands post nine to eleven. We had a
Speaker 1: U two headlined halftime show in two thousand and two
Speaker 1: with Bono's little American flag jacket. He's Irish and I
Speaker 1: thought anti war, but sure. We had a very chaotic
Speaker 1: two thousand and four that led to the infamous Janet
Speaker 1: Jackson quote unquote wardrobe malfunction, sending Justin Timberlake to the
Speaker 1: gutters of history. We had the best halftime show of
Speaker 1: all time from Prince in two thousand and seven, and
Speaker 1: when I remember really enjoying from Bruce Springsteen in two
Speaker 1: thousand and nine.
Speaker 3: I want you to step back from the clack of
Speaker 3: all in den how.
Speaker 4: About your chicken things down. I'm turning your.
Speaker 1: Television, but by the early twenty tens was starting to
Speaker 1: run out of establishment rock acts to headline, starting the
Speaker 1: decade with The Who and then leaning heavily into pop acts.
Speaker 1: The Black Eyed Peas a really fun Madonna show, Beyonce
Speaker 1: in a close second to Prince for the all time
Speaker 1: best halftime show. Then came Bruno Mars and on February first,
Speaker 1: twenty fifteen, hopstar Katie Perry Headlin at what ended up
Speaker 1: being one of the most memorable halftime shows ever in Glendale, Arizona.
Speaker 2: And whether you were a fan or not, this was
Speaker 2: Peek Katy Perry.
Speaker 1: If you haven't watched it in almost ten years, let
Speaker 1: me remind you of.
Speaker 2: What the show was like.
Speaker 1: It starts big and silly, what Perry was known for
Speaker 1: at the time, and she enters on this gigantic gilded
Speaker 1: lion puppet with glowing red eyes.
Speaker 2: It's pretty awesome.
Speaker 1: She's saddled onto the lion in a dress covered in
Speaker 1: guy Fietti flames, and she's singing her hit Roar and
Speaker 1: singing live shout out to that. She gets to the stage,
Speaker 1: dismounts the gigantic lion puppet, and then launches into the
Speaker 1: next song dark Horse and the second she hits the stage,
Speaker 1: there's dancers, and the way Katy Perry had dancers at
Speaker 1: this time was very specific. It's really campy, really over
Speaker 1: the top. The led stage becomes this huge chessboard, and
Speaker 1: her dancers, complete with their faces painted in silver, are
Speaker 1: sexy chess pieces like flipping and dancing their asses off.
Speaker 2: Awesome. She moves her.
Speaker 1: Way across the stage and launches into the next hit.
Speaker 1: And by the way, this is the only Super Bowl
Speaker 1: show ever that featured all number one hits. Her first
Speaker 1: guest artist, Lenny Kravitz, comes out, who's looking full Lenny Kravitz,
Speaker 1: leather jacket, jeans, the whole bit, and he does a
Speaker 1: cover of her early hit problematic bisexual anthem I kissed
Speaker 1: a girl back before out queer pop stars were.
Speaker 2: Legal, I don't know.
Speaker 1: The two sing a chillingly heterosexual duet, and then the
Speaker 1: set changes into a California beach and we head into
Speaker 1: the next song, all timer pop anthem teenage Dream. We're
Speaker 1: approaching the halfway mark of the show now and Katie
Speaker 1: Perry does her first abrupt costume change, and the dancers
Speaker 1: have changed too, no longer dresses chess pieces. Many of
Speaker 1: them are now dressed as anthropomorphic Disneyland style grinning palm trees, surfboards,
Speaker 1: beach balls, and.
Speaker 2: Sharks.
Speaker 1: Katie comes out in a primary colored beach ball inspired dress,
Speaker 1: and the character dancers kind of bob around her. Something
Speaker 1: that always stuck out to me is that the beach
Speaker 1: balls had these little teeth. I hate when things have teeth,
Speaker 1: and they don't have teeth. The cars from cars, regardless.
Speaker 1: The costumes are elaborate, and the anthropomorphic characters have these
Speaker 1: mouths that move in time with the music while the
Speaker 1: dancers are inside them. And as we head into the
Speaker 1: chorus of Teenage Dream, Katie is flanked by two bright
Speaker 1: blue costumed sharks. The costume's mouth along to the words
Speaker 1: of the chorus, and the dancers do their thing. But
Speaker 1: as the chorus is ending, viewers across the world begin
Speaker 1: to notice that the shark on the left side of
Speaker 1: the screen seems to have maybe lost the thread a little.
Speaker 2: He's dancing a little out of sink. He slaps himself
Speaker 2: in the face, and then he kind of just like
Speaker 2: wings it. This happens very quickly.
Speaker 1: The whole thing takes less than five seconds, and then
Speaker 1: the sharks are both locked into the choreography for the
Speaker 1: rest of the show, but the moment has already Ben's
Speaker 1: screen grab. This was a Super Bowl that was not
Speaker 1: just watched on TV, but experienced in real time on
Speaker 1: social media, and so within seconds, an online phenomenon still
Speaker 1: remembered to this day.
Speaker 2: Was born Left Shark.
Speaker 1: Ryan gaw Your sixteenth Minute starts now.
Speaker 4: The sixteen sixty sixteen.
Speaker 1: Welcome back to sixteenth Minute, the podcast where we interview
Speaker 1: the Internet characters of the day from time gone by
Speaker 1: to see how their big moment affected them and what
Speaker 1: it says about.
Speaker 2: The Internet and US.
Speaker 1: And today I'm speaking with the infamous Left Shark from
Speaker 1: the Katy Perry Super Bowl halftime show back in twenty fifteen.
Speaker 1: This is a true sixteenth Minute exclusive. It's only the
Speaker 1: second interview that Left Shark has done ever in almost ten.
Speaker 2: Years, and spoiler alert. I like him so much.
Speaker 1: He's awesome, But to fully appreciate his story, I think
Speaker 1: we need to take a closer look at what and
Speaker 1: why this moment happened, because, like millions of other people,
Speaker 1: I very much remember seeing this in real time. I
Speaker 1: was babysitting my boss's kids because I wasn't being paid
Speaker 1: enough by my boss, and so their solution was take
Speaker 1: care of my kids while I go to my friend's
Speaker 1: Super Bowl party. Anyway, the kids and I were watching
Speaker 1: this and I probably tweeted about Left Shark.
Speaker 2: In the moment.
Speaker 1: So buckle in, part your hair to the side and
Speaker 1: come with me if you dare to. February twenty fifteen,
Speaker 1: Harper Lee is announced to be releasing a second book
Speaker 1: called Go Set a Watchman, prompting allegations that she was
Speaker 1: forced into publishing.
Speaker 2: Via elder abuse.
Speaker 1: Brian Williams goes on hiatus after being caught lying about
Speaker 1: being in a helicopter that was shot down in the
Speaker 1: Iraq War.
Speaker 2: Remember that?
Speaker 1: And pop star Katy Perry headlined the Super Bowl halftime
Speaker 1: show with surprise guests Lenny Kravitz and Missy Elliott. And
Speaker 1: by the way, yeah, Missy fucking Elliot, Left Shark became
Speaker 1: the main thing that this halftime show was remembered for.
Speaker 1: But let's not forget Missy Elliott was the surprise guest
Speaker 1: on this show, and right after the Sharks clear the stage,
Speaker 1: she comes out of nowhere and performs get your freak
Speaker 1: on and Work It, before the show concludes with Katy
Speaker 1: Perry singing firework while flying through the audience on a
Speaker 1: gigantic shooting star prop that kind of looked like the
Speaker 1: More You Know logo. It was a really good show,
Speaker 1: making the fact that left Shark was the main takeaway
Speaker 1: for a lot of.
Speaker 2: People all the more remarkable.
Speaker 1: Before we get into how the show came together, a
Speaker 1: quick disclaimer. Because I'm talking about the super Bowl and
Speaker 1: therefore the NFL this week, I want to be clear
Speaker 1: about a few things. I do feel the need to
Speaker 1: say that the NFL is a demonstrably dogshit organization from
Speaker 1: just about any angle you look at it from. This
Speaker 1: was true in twenty fifteen and would only become more
Speaker 1: true in the years to come. The year after this
Speaker 1: halftime show, Colin Kaepernick famously took a knee during the
Speaker 1: US national anthem at a game to protest racial inequality
Speaker 1: and police brutality, which brought his professional career tweet screeching
Speaker 1: halt soon after, leading to lawsuits between Kaepernick and the league.
Speaker 1: That's not to mention how the NFL has historically ignored
Speaker 1: the rampant CTE traumatic brain injuries brought on by players
Speaker 1: repeated concussions that have destroyed players' lives and led to
Speaker 1: the death of many. The NFL has never confronted this,
Speaker 1: and even went as far to intimidate scientists who were
Speaker 1: studying CTE in twenty seventeen. There's the matter of massive
Speaker 1: NFL stadiums uprooting entire communities, most often poor communities, and
Speaker 1: these rotten to the core issues with the NFL is
Speaker 1: what's caused some musicians to turn down playing the super
Speaker 1: Bowl in the past, most notably Rihanna, Pink and Cardi
Speaker 1: B in solidarity with Colin Kaepernick back in twenty nineteen,
Speaker 1: although Rihanna did later do the Super Bowl in twenty
Speaker 1: twenty three, so I guess she got over it.
Speaker 2: Don't yell at me.
Speaker 1: I'm a Rihanna fan, but like, come on anyways, I
Speaker 1: did want to acknowledge that reality before digging into this
Speaker 1: Super Bowl halftime show story, because admittedly there is my ooh, shiny, awesome,
Speaker 1: pretty show with fireworks brain. That means I generally still
Speaker 1: tune into the halftime show almost every year, and in general,
Speaker 1: Americans are just weirdly into the super Bowl. The amount
Speaker 1: of bizarre, campy media that exists around the Super Bowl
Speaker 1: is hard to quantify it.
Speaker 2: If you don't believe me.
Speaker 1: Here's a clip of the Chicago Bears singing nineteen eighty
Speaker 1: five's novelty single, the Super Bowl shuffle.
Speaker 4: Shot.
Speaker 1: The song is very famous. I can't account for it.
Speaker 1: The song has ten verses and was nominated for a Grammy.
Speaker 2: But don't worry.
Speaker 1: The New England Patriots also made a novelty song about
Speaker 1: wanting to win the Super Bowl that year. Huge l
Speaker 1: for New England. It's just embarrassing. Sorry, just one more.
Speaker 1: In nineteen eighty six, the Los Angeles Rams recorded a
Speaker 1: novelty rap song that is basically porn even what of
Speaker 1: my movies?
Speaker 4: Like James, they call me to don all special teams.
Speaker 1: I know how to run from the toes to the
Speaker 1: head when I pulled the t knock you did.
Speaker 2: I'm a mountain man from West Va. They called me
Speaker 2: hers and I came to play. I learned long ago
Speaker 2: with the ramatist rights. You can ram it all kN
Speaker 2: and ram it all night. The super Bowl is deeply American.
Speaker 1: It's big, it's annoying, it's bad for the world, and
Speaker 1: people have a lot of fun watching it. Anyways, the
Speaker 1: year that Katy Perry performed the teams playing were the
Speaker 1: New England Patriots and the Seattle Seahawks, And that will
Speaker 1: be the last time I will be talking about the
Speaker 1: teams because, for my money, the Left Shark moment defined
Speaker 1: this entire broadcast. Think about moments that have stuck with
Speaker 1: you from halftime shows of YR the Rihanna pregnancy reveal
Speaker 1: from twenty twenty three, Lady Gaga jumping off a building
Speaker 1: at the beginning of her show in twenty seventeen, m
Speaker 1: i a flipping off the camera before the broadcast had
Speaker 1: time to cut it during Madonna's show in twenty twelve,
Speaker 1: and most infamously ever, the Janet Jackson Justin Timberlake wardrobe
Speaker 1: malfunction from two thousand and four that slowed Janet Jackson's
Speaker 1: career to a crawl in spite of the fact that
Speaker 1: she had done nothing except have a nipple, and Justin
Speaker 1: Timberlake went on to headline a Super Bowl show, only
Speaker 1: seeing his complicity in this incident catch up with him
Speaker 1: in the last couple of years.
Speaker 4: What tour the World Tour.
Speaker 1: Now you'll notice that all these stories have to do
Speaker 1: with these celebrities at the center of the show. Leaving
Speaker 1: Left Shark in a class of his own. Because sure,
Speaker 1: left Shark was a part of the Katie Perry Show,
Speaker 1: but it wasn't planned. The moment was not defined by her.
Speaker 1: It wasn't a tabloid moment, it wasn't a scandal, it
Speaker 1: wasn't a carefully engineered reveal. Left Shark's going rogue was
Speaker 1: something weird and organic that brought social media together. But
Speaker 1: this was a single moment inside of a gigantic show
Speaker 1: that had been worked on for months. So to give
Speaker 1: you an idea of how unbelievably complicated it was to
Speaker 1: bring this and all contemporary Super Bowl halftime shows together,
Speaker 1: here's an approximate timeline of how long the Katy Perry
Speaker 1: Show took to come together, because of course there's a
Speaker 1: documentary about it, and of course I watched it twice.
Speaker 1: So the actual Super Bowl show happens on February first,
Speaker 1: twenty fifteen, but the first rumblings of a Katie halftime
Speaker 1: show start in August twenty fourteen, when the shortlist is
Speaker 1: revealed to be Katy Perry, Rihanna, and Coldplay, and The
Speaker 1: Wall Street Journal reported that there were pay to play rumors,
Speaker 1: which means their record labels would pay the NFL a
Speaker 1: premium in order to get them booked. The NFL denied this,
Speaker 1: and they famously love to tell the truth, so I say,
Speaker 1: let's believe them. But whatever happened or didn't happen, Katy
Speaker 1: Perry was in and Coldplay and Rihanna would play the
Speaker 1: super Bowl in the next ten years, so whatever proper
Speaker 1: planning started in fall twenty fourteen, and Katy Perry said
Speaker 1: from the beginning that she wants a guest artist to
Speaker 1: surprise the audience and the same big, colorful aesthetic of
Speaker 1: her touring show. Billboard announced she would be the lead
Speaker 1: act in October twenty fourteen, and the NFL confirmed in
Speaker 1: November and through the end of that year, while she
Speaker 1: and her dancers were on the Prismatic World Tour in
Speaker 1: the US, Katie's team was communicating and planning their vision
Speaker 1: to the go to group of Super Bowl halftime organizers.
Speaker 1: Logistics while She's gone include designing and constructing a stage
Speaker 1: unique to this specific stadium in more than eight hundred
Speaker 1: original costumes. Katie and the dancers finished the tour on
Speaker 1: December twentieth, and after the holiday break, it was all
Speaker 1: hands on deck to learn an entirely different show than
Speaker 1: they were doing on tour. So about a month to
Speaker 1: rehearse a show for one hundred twenty million people. This
Speaker 1: is from the documentary.
Speaker 7: We got to physically rehearse for one month straight. First,
Speaker 7: we were in a dance studio, because you don't get
Speaker 7: to always rehearse in a stadium.
Speaker 9: They're boiling down six months of work every day, all
Speaker 9: hours of the day, seven days a week, boils down
Speaker 9: to twelve and a half minutes, and it was twelve
Speaker 9: and a half minutes. Everything's got to go.
Speaker 1: Right, and in this rehearsal footage you can see the
Speaker 1: man who would soon be left shark. They start rehearsing
Speaker 1: in the stadium in Glendale, Arizona, on January eleventh, and
Speaker 1: the infrastructure is massive. There is eighteen thousand square feet
Speaker 1: of led stage. There's flame cannons, there's a ten million
Speaker 1: dollar budget. Five hundred stage hands are there to rehearse
Speaker 1: assembling and disassembling the stage in the space of a
Speaker 1: single commercial break. And the whole crew is run by
Speaker 1: a Vietnam vette. They literally run this shit like the military.
Speaker 9: So we have two surfboards, a palm trees, four bechwolves,
Speaker 9: two sharks.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we're so.
Speaker 1: By mid January, Katy Perry is rehearsing on the gigantic
Speaker 1: prismatic lion puppet. Missy Elliott and her dancers come in
Speaker 1: to start rehearsing. There's this amazing moment when Ryan gaw
Speaker 1: is in his shark costume and he and Katie goof
Speaker 1: around in their mouths all moved.
Speaker 8: What do you think it's that?
Speaker 7: Do you feel like you have a handle on that costume?
Speaker 7: Like you're not gonna go timber at any point?
Speaker 2: Honestly, No, this is pretty easy iconic.
Speaker 1: And you see her talking with her dancers wearing the
Speaker 1: huge costumes and making sure they're comfortable. They perfect rapid
Speaker 1: costume changes. There's a flying rehearsal camera rehearsal they filmed promos.
Speaker 2: Hi, I'm Katy Perry, popstar.
Speaker 7: Welcome to my halftime show testing facilities.
Speaker 1: We're test and finally, after six months of planning, it's
Speaker 1: Super Bowl Eve. Katy Perry appears to have micro managed
Speaker 1: this event down to the micro detail, and the night
Speaker 1: before she has this premonition that the Sharks will be
Speaker 1: the star of the show.
Speaker 7: You don't understand that like the Sharks are gonna get
Speaker 7: so much love on life.
Speaker 1: You just heard the voice of Scott Merrick aka Wright Shark.
Speaker 1: He's actually still a working dancer and was one of
Speaker 1: the dancing Kens at the Oscars last year. And then
Speaker 1: it's the day of the Super Bowl. Katy Perry was
Speaker 1: a pastor's daughter, I guess, so in this room full
Speaker 1: of her dancers dressed as chess pieces and Lenny Kravitz
Speaker 1: and Missy Elliott, she gives a pep talk with prayer
Speaker 1: where I pray God that you will look after us.
Speaker 7: Thank you so much for this incredible opportunity.
Speaker 4: And we know it's because.
Speaker 7: Of you, because you have chosen us as Sam and
Speaker 7: we believe that we are exactly where we are supposed
Speaker 7: to be today at this moment, and we will be
Speaker 7: present and conscious and we will smile and we will
Speaker 7: live in this twelve and a half note.
Speaker 1: And then the huge show happens and one of the
Speaker 1: Sharks did this thing at some point, but after they
Speaker 1: get off stage, it seems like the cruise takeaway is Wow.
Speaker 1: That went really well, instantly, well reviewed and declared one
Speaker 1: of the best halftime shows ever. It causes this huge
Speaker 1: spike in Katy Perry, music, sales, everything you would hope
Speaker 1: from a performance of that scale, And if you'll permit
Speaker 1: me to make a quick aside, it's just interesting that
Speaker 1: Katy Perry needed months to put this show together because
Speaker 1: my favorite Super Bowl act learned his entire part.
Speaker 2: In three days.
Speaker 1: Who But by the time the stage had been disassembled
Speaker 1: for New England to win the game, there had been
Speaker 1: three million tweets about the halftime show in the thirteen
Speaker 1: minutes it was airing, and the Lion, the Shooting Star,
Speaker 1: and the costumes made a lot of conversation, but there
Speaker 1: was a clear favorite moment. But everyone's favorite moment had
Speaker 1: nothing to do with this six months of planning.
Speaker 4: Guess who, Katie, did you forget your routine again? Left shark,
Speaker 4: Left Shark? No, Katie, light to me, left shark, left shark.
Speaker 1: Yes, I guess it's up to me to decide.
Speaker 2: Am I going to be a right shark or a
Speaker 2: left shark today?
Speaker 4: Hashtag deep Every time I get sad about the Seahawks,
Speaker 4: I will turn to left shark.
Speaker 1: If you were wondering, that was me and the shark costume.
Speaker 1: That last tweet was Snoop Dogg. And while it takes
Speaker 1: people a little time to catch on. Brian gaw reveals
Speaker 1: himself as Left Shark the night of the Super Bowl
Speaker 1: by posting a screenshot of Katy Perry with the Sharks
Speaker 1: on Instagram and Twitter with this caption.
Speaker 4: Yep, the rumors are true, yours truly.
Speaker 1: And the next day he shares a picture of himself
Speaker 1: dressed as a rook in the chest sequence. Throughout the
Speaker 1: rest of the night, the left Shark meme Edits came
Speaker 1: in fast and heavy. There was Left Shark being beamed
Speaker 1: into the sky like the bat signal. There was left
Speaker 1: Shark on the poster of Jaws. There was Left Shark
Speaker 1: looming behind llll coolj in.
Speaker 2: Deep Blue Sea.
Speaker 1: And sure, there were a few people who were being
Speaker 1: mean to Left Shark, saying that he messed up the choreography,
Speaker 1: but by and large, it was a stunningly positive moment,
Speaker 1: the kind you don't get very often on the Internet.
Speaker 1: Left Shark became the rare main character with all but
Speaker 1: no negative backlash. It was a mystery of identity, and
Speaker 1: because it was the Super Bowl, mainstream media was all
Speaker 1: over Left Shark. The next morning, Katie Perry, from the
Speaker 1: bottom of my heart, thank you for Left Shark. How
Speaker 1: did you like the dancing sharks and the one who
Speaker 1: went rogue and started doing the macarena.
Speaker 3: That looked like it was from Saturday Night Live.
Speaker 4: I hear this.
Speaker 8: The shark screen left was a killer, noted one sports blog.
Speaker 8: Left Shark failed out of choreography school. On Twitter, they
Speaker 8: were compared to the hologram shark from Back to the Future.
Speaker 1: Left Shark became the human interest finterest, No, the human
Speaker 1: interest story of the day, But most of the reporting
Speaker 1: about him in the first wave is either about the
Speaker 1: perceived miss choreography or about how much the Internet loved him.
Speaker 1: He was everywhere, and the suggestion that the dancer messed
Speaker 1: up the choreography was so outsized in the first day
Speaker 1: that a series of things happens. First halftime show choreographer
Speaker 1: r J. Durrell came out on Monday to say that
Speaker 1: left Shark did nothing wrong. In the Hollywood Reporter, this
Speaker 1: was the headline.
Speaker 4: Katy Perry's choreographer, Left Shark nailed it.
Speaker 2: Here's the story.
Speaker 4: The sharks were given two main objectives. Perry's choreographer r J.
Speaker 4: Derell tells thhr one perform Katie's trademark moves to the
Speaker 4: Teenage Dream chorus, which they both did perfectly, and two
Speaker 4: to have loads of fun and bring to life these
Speaker 4: characters in a cartoon manner, giving them a tweedled tweedled
Speaker 4: dum type persona clearly that was portrayed with the over
Speaker 4: zealous shark on the right hitting precise dance moves, while
Speaker 4: the left Shark, Drell says, was playing up a more goofy,
Speaker 4: fun spirited sports fan mascot type that was just happy
Speaker 4: to be at the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: And interestingly, at the end of this article, Durell leans
Speaker 1: into the already developing narrative around Left Shark.
Speaker 4: Don't forget we all have a little hashtag left Shark
Speaker 4: in US hashtag.
Speaker 1: Indeed, Katy Perry herself tweets out her support of the
Speaker 1: meme the night after the Super Bowl with an illustrated
Speaker 1: graphic of an embarrassed left Shark with text reading you
Speaker 1: the real MVP. And while the reveal of Brian Gaul
Speaker 1: was very satisfying, as well as the reassurance that Left
Speaker 1: Shark's notoriety wasn't going to affect his livelihood, that doesn't
Speaker 1: really stay the focus.
Speaker 2: Of the story here.
Speaker 1: It becomes this pretty wholesome be yourself message that catches on,
Speaker 1: do your thing with passion and the world will appreciate you.
Speaker 1: And so for the next few days there are some
Speaker 1: pretty funny standard fifteen minutes of fame things that happen.
Speaker 1: A guy gets a left shark tattoo. People dressed as
Speaker 1: the left and right sharks appeared in a SportsCenter ad
Speaker 1: and on the Late Late Show with John Mayer. Didn't
Speaker 1: look into it further, but drama. It would appear that
Speaker 1: Katy Perry's team wanted to make sure that the left
Speaker 1: Shark phenomenon wasn't making money for random people. By February sixth,
Speaker 1: her team had issued a cease and assist to Orlando
Speaker 1: artist Fernando Sosa for selling three D printed left shark toys.
Speaker 1: By February tenth, Sosa's lawyer had fired back, saying.
Speaker 4: We also wonder what Katy Perry could possibly stand to
Speaker 4: gain from declaring war on an internet meme.
Speaker 1: Well, what she stood to gain was revealed in March
Speaker 1: twenty fifteen, when the Katy Perry stores started selling officially
Speaker 1: licensed shark onesies advertised with this tweet attention, Internet no
Speaker 1: longer do you have to diy left Shark costume. You
Speaker 1: can now be a proper hashtag left Shark with this
Speaker 1: official glorious hashtag left Shark Onesie. This was launched alongside
Speaker 1: and officially life since Left Shark t shirt. And I
Speaker 1: will say that merch is a pretty common refrain with
Speaker 1: main characters, with people like Hawktua Girl and previously thirty
Speaker 1: to fifty Faral Hogs Guy. People will sometimes create their
Speaker 1: own merch in order to combat opportunistic people capitalizing on
Speaker 1: their image or catchphrase or idea. I do think that
Speaker 1: it made sense that Katy Perry did this, but it
Speaker 1: looks a little different when a millionaire pop star is
Speaker 1: doing it. Because Brian didn't seem to profit from the
Speaker 1: meme himself and didn't really seem interested in it, turning
Speaker 1: down most interview requests. After Brian's identity was revealed, it
Speaker 1: doesn't seem like he has much else to do with
Speaker 1: the story in the short term, but Katy Perry and
Speaker 1: her team stay at it. By April twenty fifteen, Katie
Speaker 1: posted a photo with a Coachella trash can styled to
Speaker 1: look like Left Shark. That same month, it's revealed that
Speaker 1: her team had been rejected for various attempts to trademark
Speaker 1: the character with the US Trademark Office. The requests included
Speaker 1: trademarking the costume design, as well as raises left Shark,
Speaker 1: Right Shark, drunk Shark, and basking Shark, trips off the
Speaker 1: tongue March Wars aside, Left Shark had a weird amount
Speaker 1: of staying power throughout twenty fifteen. Most notably, he came
Speaker 1: up in a commencement speech at Boston University given by
Speaker 1: Meredith Fierira.
Speaker 2: Here it is.
Speaker 1: Stay away from ax, better yet be the left Shark.
Speaker 1: Remember last Super Bowl when the Patriots won. Yeah, Well,
Speaker 1: and at this point in the speech, someone in a
Speaker 1: left Shark costume comes out and it becomes a lesson
Speaker 1: about doing your own thing. The NFL has also repeatedly
Speaker 1: made reference to this moment to this day. Left Shark
Speaker 1: is mentioned in the official YouTube upload of the Katy
Speaker 1: Perry halftime show crediting the three musical artists and Left
Speaker 1: Shark not even the director of the broadcast. This Shark's power,
Speaker 1: his raw power. And it's just interesting because confident imperfection
Speaker 1: was not always tolerated on that stage.
Speaker 3: Was it who.
Speaker 1: Oh hm, and so Left Shark had become the rare
Speaker 1: feel good character, and as always, eventually the internet moved on.
Speaker 1: Katy Perry and her dancers flew out to Spain to
Speaker 1: resume the Prismatic World tour on February sixteenth, twenty fifteen.
Speaker 1: Brian Gaw went with them. He was publicly known to
Speaker 1: be Left Shark. He'd been defended and celebrated by his peers,
Speaker 1: and he returned to dancing. Something I found interesting researching
Speaker 1: this story is that it's consistently the Katy Perry team
Speaker 1: that continues to make this big deal out of Left Shark.
Speaker 2: Never Brian Gaw.
Speaker 1: It's the team that owns the costume, the team that tries.
Speaker 2: To do the trademark.
Speaker 1: I mean, Brian certainly enjoys the moment itself, but he
Speaker 1: never tries to seek eternal association with this. He wanted
Speaker 1: to get back to work, and that's what he did.
Speaker 2: Years later.
Speaker 1: Katie Perry and company would towed out the Left Shark
Speaker 1: a few times in twenty eighteen, including at a Super
Speaker 1: Bowl pre show. This is her talking to someone in
Speaker 1: the Left Shark suit, not Brian.
Speaker 7: But you would be made fun of it all over
Speaker 7: the world.
Speaker 2: Do you think you're a good dancer?
Speaker 1: Left Shark also made an appearance on her tour promoting
Speaker 1: the album Witness throughout twenty eighteen. Then, weirdly, Left Shark
Speaker 1: went viral again on TikTok in twenty twenty two, when
Speaker 1: California Girls had a brief resurgence and TikTokers were buying
Speaker 1: the costume and having all of their friends wear them
Speaker 1: and dance in them.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: The only interview Brian Gaw would ever give on the
Speaker 1: subject would be in twenty eighteen to NPR, but by
Speaker 1: that time he'd very much moved on from this moment,
Speaker 1: although he still embraced the meme in general. He also
Speaker 1: defended his choreography choice, echoing what had been said years earlier.
Speaker 1: It was a freestyle. It was fair play, Brian innocent.
Speaker 1: He also said he had retired from dancing at the
Speaker 1: end of twenty fifteen, shortly after the Prismatic tour ended,
Speaker 1: and was now working at an upscale West Hollywood hair salon.
Speaker 1: But that was all we knew until now. Because listener,
Speaker 1: here's the thing about an upscale West Hollywood hair salon.
Speaker 1: I can make my boyfriend drive me there on a
Speaker 1: Tuesday morning, and so when we come back, I speak
Speaker 1: to Left Shark Brian Gaw himself in the lobby of
Speaker 1: a very fancy hair salon. Yeah, welcome back to sixteenth minute.
Speaker 1: It was so nice of everyone at Left Shark's hair
Speaker 1: salon to not comment on my new haircut because my
Speaker 1: new haircut is a triangle shape and that's not the
Speaker 1: stylis fault. I asked for the triangle shape and she
Speaker 1: talked me out of bangs.
Speaker 2: So it actually is a good haircut.
Speaker 1: And today I have an exclusive, in depth interview with
Speaker 1: a certain left Shark. Brian Gaw currently works at the
Speaker 1: Serrano Salon in West Hollywood, inside of a store called
Speaker 1: Just One Eye. The store is huge and gorgeous and
Speaker 1: scary in a way that stores in West Hollywood can be.
Speaker 1: The ceilings are high, there's a sexy anime statue, but
Speaker 1: it's class C. I have no idea what they were
Speaker 1: selling there, And in the very back is this small,
Speaker 1: gorgeous salon. Brian is both a successful hairstylist for private
Speaker 1: clients and for high fashion. His instagram includes a lot
Speaker 1: of this work. I'm talking doing hair for red carpets, billboard,
Speaker 1: ad campaigns Vogue Hong Kong. He has built this ritible
Speaker 1: career for himself and his friends. Did this day with
Speaker 1: Katie Perry, and I am very intimidated by these kinds
Speaker 1: of spaces, but.
Speaker 2: Everyone at the salon was so so kind.
Speaker 1: It's owned by longtime celebrity stylist George Serrano, who Brian
Speaker 1: has worked with for years. So when I arrived, we
Speaker 1: were in this beautiful cavernoust space, and Brian said that
Speaker 1: the only place to do the interview would be right there.
Speaker 1: So this interview has been edited for time and clarity,
Speaker 1: and it sort of sounds like we're sitting in the
Speaker 1: lobby of a very fancy hair salon, because we are.
Speaker 1: Here's my interview with Left Shark Brian gaw.
Speaker 3: My name is Brian. I'm a hairstylist and I am
Speaker 3: also a professional dancer. The dancing part has kind of
Speaker 3: taken a back seat. So yeah, I'm just happy to
Speaker 3: be here to chat with you.
Speaker 2: Could you tell me where we are?
Speaker 3: Yeah, So we're in the Sycamore district called a multi
Speaker 3: brand kind of art installation called Just there's lots of
Speaker 3: high end retail art and where a boutique salon located
Speaker 3: in the back called Serrano Salon. We are a small
Speaker 3: team of stylists and yeah, we're like a little family
Speaker 3: back here.
Speaker 1: I was intimidated by the doors. I was like, I
Speaker 1: don't am I allowed to go an Tell me about
Speaker 1: where you grew up, how you grew up, what were
Speaker 1: you like as a kid.
Speaker 3: So I grew up in Houston, Texas a product of
Speaker 3: doing how I got into dances. I grew up doing
Speaker 3: martial arts. I was always very physically active during my
Speaker 3: high school years. So yeah, I did my first audition
Speaker 3: that year. I had to wait till I turned eighteen
Speaker 3: because they didn't have a men's team on the NBA
Speaker 3: that year, So I ended up auditioning again, got the job,
Speaker 3: danced for the NBA, and then at that time, like okay, fine,
Speaker 3: here's the age thing. At that time, like Britney Spears
Speaker 3: was really big and like her dancers were all over MTV.
Speaker 3: This was a different time pop culture, like you would
Speaker 3: see your media on TRL, which is an MTV show,
Speaker 3: or you would hear it on the radio.
Speaker 1: Yeah, still the like Carson Daily era of curation.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I was like wow, like in my eyes,
Speaker 3: my young eyes and like these dancers could be amazing,
Speaker 3: they could be quote unquote famous. I want to be
Speaker 3: a dancer. So I would go back and forth between
Speaker 3: LA and New York to take class and it just
Speaker 3: really opened my eyes. Like at that time, also one
Speaker 3: of my former teammates, Gilbert, he had already moved to LA.
Speaker 3: So I danced right after him, and he had already
Speaker 3: moved to LA. He was on the he was on
Speaker 3: the Houston Comments dance team also, and everybody's like, he's
Speaker 3: dancing for Christina Aguilera. You know, like you could totally
Speaker 3: move to LA and do this. And I was like,
Speaker 3: oh gosh, like I really want to try that. And yeah,
Speaker 3: that's sort of how I moved from Houston to LA.
Speaker 1: Such a big move so young too. I mean I
Speaker 1: moved here when I was twenty two, and I still
Speaker 1: was like, ugh could have waited long.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like what was that experience?
Speaker 3: Like it was crazy because like, you know, I went
Speaker 3: to college for a little bit for a few years
Speaker 3: back in Houston. I still lived with my parents, and
Speaker 3: my time in LA like or moving here. Yeah, I
Speaker 3: had friends that you know, I'd made here also, but
Speaker 3: it was like that was my college experience, if you will,
Speaker 3: you know, I moved out to an apartment by myself.
Speaker 3: I was auditioning all the time. Luckily I got an
Speaker 3: agent kind of right away when I first moved here.
Speaker 3: And then yeah, it just was really it was a
Speaker 3: very interesting time because it's like all I cared about
Speaker 3: was dance. The only thing that important to me was dance,
Speaker 3: and that was like my one dream as a person.
Speaker 3: I kind of like was always super into my hair anyways,
Speaker 3: and you can ask my family growing up. I would
Speaker 3: always like playing people's hair and just kind of like
Speaker 3: I was just some always into that, and I kind
Speaker 3: of thought, oh, well, eventually I'll end up going down
Speaker 3: this path. But you know, for right now, it's just
Speaker 3: like just into dance. I wanted to be a professional
Speaker 3: dancer and that's what I did.
Speaker 1: So when you get here and you're doing early auditions,
Speaker 1: what were those early audition experiences like, were they like
Speaker 1: big cattle calls?
Speaker 3: What were Yeah, it's amazing. You get an agent and
Speaker 3: you don't realize, like you think you're new here. You
Speaker 3: get an agent and you know you're the whatever, the quintessential,
Speaker 3: you're the best from your town or you've made it
Speaker 3: because you've got to la well, honey, you don't realize
Speaker 3: like all these other people have been doing this, Like right,
Speaker 3: so you're going to the big cattle call auditions, five
Speaker 3: hundred people auditions, thinking oh, they called you for an audition,
Speaker 3: but you know this is like, Yeah, you stood outside,
Speaker 3: you waited your turn, you learned the combo, waited your turn,
Speaker 3: and then you had that couple minutes to go and
Speaker 3: you were either cut or you kept making cuts or
Speaker 3: they kept making cuts down the line. It was like
Speaker 3: an all day process. I think the experience of it
Speaker 3: you just enjoyed. You didn't think it sucked because you
Speaker 3: just cared about dance. You wanted to book these jobs
Speaker 3: and this is an opportunity to you know, dance for
Speaker 3: Janet or dance for Britney and you're like, these are
Speaker 3: the biggest stars at the time, and yeah, you wanted
Speaker 3: to be a part of that, you know, and you
Speaker 3: were very close in terms of tangibility.
Speaker 1: I mean, it certainly happened for you. It seems like
Speaker 1: several times over I'm curious about those early gigs. I
Speaker 1: looked at your IODB and I was like, Wow, you're
Speaker 1: on every Disney Channel show I love just so much.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so what I think? What you don't you think?
Speaker 3: You have this career steered in one way, and life
Speaker 3: just takes you either down that path or either down
Speaker 3: a more unique path. I think what was also interesting
Speaker 3: for me is like it did end up happening. I
Speaker 3: did work with all the you know, hot female pop stars,
Speaker 3: but early on in the career, in my career, it
Speaker 3: was very I looked young, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: I looked like a kid. So I was booking like
Speaker 3: commercials and TV and movie spots on kid type TV shows,
Speaker 3: which is great because it allowed me my first like
Speaker 3: footing in the door. It's like how you work with
Speaker 3: these big choreographers, It's how you like you booked that
Speaker 3: for shob You get to know the working answers. You
Speaker 3: get to know the working choreographers and directors, and that's
Speaker 3: kind of how you segue into bigger jobs. You know
Speaker 3: those other choreographers and directors they work on other big projects.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
Speaker 2: You do these gigs.
Speaker 1: You take these gigs, you get the experience, and then
Speaker 1: it you build on it. It's like a stepping stone.
Speaker 3: It is a stepping stone.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 3: Hey, some people move out here their first audition now
Speaker 3: is you know their dream job. For me, it wasn't.
Speaker 3: There was a there was a learning curve. I had
Speaker 3: to like bust my ass in class because you're good
Speaker 3: in your hometown, but you're only so good compared to
Speaker 3: where people have the experience here in LA, Like in
Speaker 3: LA and New York, you're dealing with the best dancers
Speaker 3: in the world. And that's just the truth. And honestly,
Speaker 3: I was behind. I had to catch up. The truth
Speaker 3: is I wasn't as good and.
Speaker 2: When you started, I mean like kind of later too, right, Yeah.
Speaker 3: The truth is I was very lucky and I worked hard.
Speaker 3: I was good enough, but I was never the best
Speaker 3: dancer in the room. Like I just had the drive
Speaker 3: to aspire to be the best dancer in the room.
Speaker 3: And I really feel like the heart of that is
Speaker 3: what got me to where I ended up getting to
Speaker 3: with dance.
Speaker 1: Which is like the st here. I mean, it's like,
Speaker 1: that's awesome. Supportive family, supportive friends.
Speaker 3: Supportive family. Yes, I had a group of friends here
Speaker 3: that were from Texas and ended up meeting people here
Speaker 3: also as you do in dance class. It's really interesting
Speaker 3: because yes, supportive family, but also a family that I'm
Speaker 3: the first one to do something non traditional I see, okay,
Speaker 3: which is polarizing because you know how it is. You know,
Speaker 3: there's an expectation and you're not on that path and
Speaker 3: you kind of have to prove it to yourself and
Speaker 3: to everyone else. And then you start booking jobs, and
Speaker 3: then you get on TV, and then you do this
Speaker 3: and that, and it's like that's I think. Another thing
Speaker 3: I like would love to just impart is, like so
Speaker 3: many of these moments for all performers, it's the pinnacle
Speaker 3: of their years of work, and I like attribute it
Speaker 3: to like the Olympics or anything else, Like what you're
Speaker 3: seeing is a final product of hours, years, like a
Speaker 3: lifetime of work. And it's really easy for spectators or
Speaker 3: you know, onlookers to just be a critic and the
Speaker 3: way in which media is so consumed these days or
Speaker 3: just very easy to be critical of something or another
Speaker 3: without understanding where the art or performance comes from. And
Speaker 3: it is it's a little disheartening, but you got to
Speaker 3: also understand that, like you put your time in and
Speaker 3: hopefully it's well received.
Speaker 1: I mean, I have to imagine as a professional dancer,
Speaker 1: it's a testament to your craft.
Speaker 2: If you're not making it look hard. Yeah, but then
Speaker 2: people treat you like, well, how hard can it be?
Speaker 1: Because look how easy it looks like, Oh no, I
Speaker 1: spent ten years making it look that easy.
Speaker 3: I'm glad for where we're at these days, and like
Speaker 3: this day and age, we've grown so much, right, But
Speaker 3: also back in the day, it was rough, like people
Speaker 3: in power could talk to you a certain way, you know,
Speaker 3: like you had to look a certain way. You had
Speaker 3: to I mean, just very bluntly. There is a body
Speaker 3: standard for both men and women, unspoken but not unspoken, right, Right,
Speaker 3: the dance world is tough, you know, and it's you're
Speaker 3: supposed to look a certain way. The shapes are supposed
Speaker 3: to look a certain way, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: And that's how it was back then.
Speaker 1: You know, when do you start touring regularly, when do
Speaker 1: you start working with these sort of bigger pop stars,
Speaker 1: Because I know I saw Miley Cyrus, Lady Gaga, and
Speaker 1: then Katie Perry.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so, like I would say, probably around two thousand
Speaker 3: and eight, I was working with a few big choreographers.
Speaker 3: I was working with Tony Braxton at the time, Lady Gaga,
Speaker 3: Miley Cyrus, and I was kind of transitioning off that.
Speaker 3: Like I had done a little run with Miley when
Speaker 3: she was doing her kind of hand in Montana but
Speaker 3: kind of trying to like break from so and I
Speaker 3: think she was. That was also the tail end of
Speaker 3: her time at Disney. I was also working with Lady Gaga.
Speaker 3: At the time, Lady Gaga was just getting famous. We're
Speaker 3: doing live shows videos for her. I had done a
Speaker 3: couple gigs with Katie. I think the first one I
Speaker 3: had done was like the Teen Choice Awards or something
Speaker 3: like that, and then the tour was going to come around,
Speaker 3: and it's like, Okay, like you got a foot in
Speaker 3: because she's familiar with you, but also like, you know,
Speaker 3: you got an audition. I think at that time, like
Speaker 3: I was, I guess, if you want to say, like
Speaker 3: at the height of like my dance ability, like all
Speaker 3: the just sort of all the pieces were there, right,
Speaker 3: I knew the right people. I had worked my butt
Speaker 3: off talent wise to get to a certain level where
Speaker 3: I could perform at that level, and then yeah, I
Speaker 3: had an audition just like everybody else.
Speaker 2: So, yeah, what tour was your first tour with her?
Speaker 3: It was the California Dreams Tour.
Speaker 1: You're getting at it before, and I want to hear
Speaker 1: more about just giving people an idea of what an
Speaker 1: incredible grind it is being on these tours.
Speaker 2: What do your days look like? It seems exhausting.
Speaker 3: When you're touring. This is kind of like, I don't
Speaker 3: know for me or I don't want to speak out
Speaker 3: a turn, but for me, like that was like a
Speaker 3: pinnacle of booking a dance job. You're on a big
Speaker 3: dance job with a huge pop star, you know, arguably
Speaker 3: that the hottest pop star of the time at those years.
Speaker 3: Your job is to rehearse. You rehearse for a couple
Speaker 3: months before tour, skeleton work. It's a lot of figuring
Speaker 3: it out, and then it's you know, it turns into
Speaker 3: the refining process. Even when you're on the road, you're rehearsing,
Speaker 3: you're doing tech. You know, every day before the show,
Speaker 3: you might have time to like sight see or something
Speaker 3: like that. And then you're doing a show and then
Speaker 3: it's like you're either in that same city or you're
Speaker 3: off to the next city on a bus on a
Speaker 3: plane either that night or the next day.
Speaker 2: For weeks months, years, Yeah, for weeks months years.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: As I said, like the tour. That initial tour got
Speaker 3: extended and then went into like sort of a break,
Speaker 3: which is great. You know, it kept us as dancers working.
Speaker 3: It sounds like a little when you're like, oh, I'm
Speaker 3: working once a month or twice a month, but you
Speaker 3: don't understand, like there's weeks and weeks of rehearsal that
Speaker 3: goes into one show. It's not just like you show
Speaker 3: up and do this show. So working once or twice
Speaker 3: a month doing a different or new show tailored to
Speaker 3: like different or specific audiences is still like you're working.
Speaker 3: Here's a little tidbit. There was an exciting moment when
Speaker 3: like there were rumblings right that like, hey, you guys
Speaker 3: are going to get tapped to do the super Bowl.
Speaker 3: The super Bowl is the biggest show in America. Okay.
Speaker 3: And then as a dancer, you know, only certain dancers
Speaker 3: get to do Super Bowl because A it has to
Speaker 3: be a pop artist or an artist that's going to
Speaker 3: utilize dancers right right, And B you have to be
Speaker 3: sort of like in with that set choreographers or whatever
Speaker 3: or that artist. You know that, so it doesn't get
Speaker 3: to happen. I know, amazing dancers that should have done
Speaker 3: a Super Bowl again, it's like an anomaly. It's a timeline.
Speaker 3: But then there are other dances that have done multiple
Speaker 3: Super Bowls, which is also amazing. So back to what
Speaker 3: I was saying is there are rumblings like, hey, you
Speaker 3: guys are going to do a Super Bowl and there
Speaker 3: I remember a specific show we were doing and they
Speaker 3: were saying management was saying, okay, no joking around, this
Speaker 3: is very very important show, wink wink, whatever. And I
Speaker 3: remember feeling like they flew out the choreographers, like we
Speaker 3: had to rehearse our asses off before this. Like yeah,
Speaker 3: I feel like that show was like an audition. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's a lot. So we go from like having a
Speaker 3: break from tour to going to rehearse for the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: We'll be right back with more. Brian Gaw Welcome back
Speaker 1: to sixteen minute. Brian Gaw is one of the nicest
Speaker 1: people I've ever interviewed. After we talked, I walked to
Speaker 1: a restaurant that I liked to go to when I
Speaker 1: lived in West Hollywood and had no money. It's called
Speaker 1: Crazy Rock and Sushi, Don't judge me. And while I
Speaker 1: was there, Brian texted me to say if I had
Speaker 1: time to come back to the salon. He and the
Speaker 1: manager had a bunch of free haircare products to give me.
Speaker 1: It was so nice. My hair is still a triangle.
Speaker 1: Here's the rest of our interview.
Speaker 3: So I think we started rehearsing like in November or
Speaker 3: December of twenty fourteen, and mind you, you're rehearsing the
Speaker 3: same thing for that long, Yeah, and just making tweaks
Speaker 3: and adjustments to that.
Speaker 1: I read elsewhere that you obviously infamously left shark but
Speaker 1: also a horse for dark horse.
Speaker 3: Is that I was a horse? Yes, the left shark
Speaker 3: gets a lot of attention. Great, But I was dancing
Speaker 3: in the first half of the show. I was a
Speaker 3: chess piece. This was a full on production, utilizing all
Speaker 3: the dance, Like I had a costume change that my
Speaker 3: lovely dresser, Avalon helped me get into off the side
Speaker 3: of stage. And then yeah, and then we did the
Speaker 3: California Girls in teenage Stream Medley.
Speaker 2: Let's talk about the day.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's interesting because, like I think, I don't
Speaker 3: want to say you become numb to it. I use
Speaker 3: this analogy not in an ungrateful way, but in a
Speaker 3: way where you were so trained by that time, like
Speaker 3: you almost turn into a robot. We've like rehearsed in
Speaker 3: the arena so many times. You've rehearsed on that stage.
Speaker 3: We rehearsed at the actual Arizona Arena. I mean, you
Speaker 3: have done this routine so many times. You're so excited
Speaker 3: for the day, right, because it's exciting, But if this
Speaker 3: makes sense, it's also well, okay, here it is. You
Speaker 3: know what I mean, because you're like, finally.
Speaker 1: Yes, were you rooting for anyone in that particular Super Bowl?
Speaker 3: Sorry, audience, no, same, But it was really cool. I
Speaker 3: guess Tom Brady was in that one, right, I think so.
Speaker 2: I think so. I'm from Massachusetts, I should know.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: No, so that was supposed to be a really big thing.
Speaker 3: I don't follow football. Don't kill me, audience.
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 1: I cannot think of an audience that probably knows less
Speaker 1: about football than my audience.
Speaker 3: It was cool to like be in the locker rooms
Speaker 3: and like see the players run past. Like the energy
Speaker 3: of the stadium, the energy of what's going on. It's
Speaker 3: really super exciting. The game is too super exciting.
Speaker 1: So the performance happens, The left Shark moment happens kind
Speaker 1: of unbeknownst to you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, take me through what that like? You get off stage.
Speaker 3: So what was really cool is if you watch the
Speaker 3: entire performance, you see that Katie ends the show on
Speaker 3: her own, right right. So by the time I get
Speaker 3: off stage, they're holding us on this like everything had
Speaker 3: gone according to plan. You know, we're cheering for Missy
Speaker 3: Elliott's dancers. We're like just enjoying. We're on the sideline
Speaker 3: and enjoining the moment like this is such a cool thing.
Speaker 3: We see Katie fly in the air and then then
Speaker 3: you know, look, but the NFL does not play any games.
Speaker 3: When you're done, you're done, get out. So like you're
Speaker 3: like escort, like get off the field. We're literally like running.
Speaker 2: Are you still in full shark at this point, full.
Speaker 3: Full shark outfit? Just okay? Then run get off stage,
Speaker 3: go change and then yeah there's no like you get
Speaker 3: to hang around, no go you're we were back at
Speaker 3: our hotel before the game ended. Yeah, no, you leave
Speaker 3: you That's what I mean. You're like, I'm furious when
Speaker 3: I tell you that the NFL there is no no game, Like,
Speaker 3: the NFL plays no games with or with any of
Speaker 3: these people.
Speaker 2: During the performance. It I mean, you're just like it's
Speaker 2: just enough.
Speaker 3: Just it's gone according to plan, right, I guess you know, like, yes,
Speaker 3: Twitter was around like in popular, but this is like
Speaker 3: this happened like a slow burn where like people were
Speaker 3: texting me like hey, did I just see you? Which
Speaker 3: shark were you? And it didn't really like come out
Speaker 3: like meme until I feel like either later that evening
Speaker 3: or the next day, and then literally the next day,
Speaker 3: I was getting fielded phone calls from reporters from people
Speaker 3: from this that how.
Speaker 2: Did they find you?
Speaker 3: I don't know, like primate agent.
Speaker 1: I remember this like wave of internet like left Shark
Speaker 1: memes and all that stuff.
Speaker 2: People found you pretty quickly.
Speaker 3: They found me pretty quickly. Number one I was I
Speaker 3: did post that, yes that was me. But then it
Speaker 3: sort of carried on because like I was also under NDA.
Speaker 3: I was working with Katie and the next day, you know,
Speaker 3: we flew out to go back to La change our
Speaker 3: bags out, and then go back on tour. So I
Speaker 3: it wasn't like we were in the middle of being
Speaker 3: on tour.
Speaker 1: Like the dancers thinking like, oh this is weird, this
Speaker 1: is funny, Like what was your family's reaction, like people
Speaker 1: in your life.
Speaker 3: No, everybody was super supportive. My friends and family were
Speaker 3: like wow, you know, like this is great, proud and
Speaker 3: excited that it was me. It was awesome. I got
Speaker 3: a great response. Katie pulled us sharks in the like
Speaker 3: dressing room. She made us like shark onesies outfits. You know,
Speaker 3: she was happy about it. You know. So it was great,
Speaker 3: and like I said, we were back on tour. It's
Speaker 3: crazy to think that it's such a pop culture moment
Speaker 3: because it was made a meme was made out of it,
Speaker 3: which is I think is how it sort of like
Speaker 3: came about. It was just a really fun moment to
Speaker 3: be part of it. Did my life change? There wasn't
Speaker 3: like a chaine of pivotal moment and you know, or
Speaker 3: any of these things. Like I said, I kind of
Speaker 3: like went back on the road with Katie. I had
Speaker 3: done a couple like game shows. I did a game
Speaker 3: show that they said okay too, because you know, she
Speaker 3: owns the costume and licensing and all that. I'm just
Speaker 3: grateful to be part of that, you know, yeah, part
Speaker 3: of that movement. I'm grateful to have that experience. And
Speaker 3: I think it is that like metaphor for life, Like
Speaker 3: you have these dreams and aspirations and they like just
Speaker 3: pan out. Like at the time, my biggest dream was
Speaker 3: like to dance for Brittany and like who knew Katie
Speaker 3: was going to become a huge pop star and turn
Speaker 3: into this and I was going to get to do
Speaker 3: all these similar opportunities, but like in a different way.
Speaker 3: I think a lot of times like we see or
Speaker 3: look at our path in such a linear way, whereas
Speaker 3: like if we're just open to how it's going or
Speaker 3: the universe is taking you, like, you'll get these big opportunities. Also,
Speaker 3: I've had time, obviously to reflect on this, and I
Speaker 3: didn't realize it. I didn't realize like how big it
Speaker 3: was until after the fact.
Speaker 1: The beginning of twenty fifteenth, the year where you decide
Speaker 1: you want to take a step back from dancing take
Speaker 1: me through the rest of the life.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So you know what, Like I think people have
Speaker 3: these moments in life and you really like reflect and
Speaker 3: you go on them. Not to sound overly rhetorical, but
Speaker 3: like where's my life heading or anything. Sure, I sort
Speaker 3: of actually got handed that to me in the best,
Speaker 3: most grateful way from the universe. What actually happened is
Speaker 3: I was like, Okay, I'm going to go back on tour.
Speaker 3: This is around, like I want to say, like summertime,
Speaker 3: and I'm like, I'm going to downsize my life. I'm
Speaker 3: going to get a Vespa, sell my car, do all
Speaker 3: these things. Well, I had gotten into a Vespa accident
Speaker 3: where I had a kidney contusion, and I'm like sort
Speaker 3: of like you grew up as a dancer, And I'm
Speaker 3: saying this because like you're like, oh your leg hurts,
Speaker 3: It's fine. That's just sort of like the generation I
Speaker 3: grew up in, Like something's hurting, you just make it
Speaker 3: look good or keep it moving right. Well, unbeknownst to
Speaker 3: me it was I was like, really is this serious.
Speaker 3: Unbeknownst to me, it was very serious. I ended up
Speaker 3: being in the hospital for six days. I say all
Speaker 3: this because I thought to myself like, wow, dance was
Speaker 3: not taken from me, which totally could devastate somebody, right,
Speaker 3: but it's sort of my outlook on it was like, wow,
Speaker 3: this is a gift from God, from the universe saying
Speaker 3: like you have dance, it is still there. It is
Speaker 3: time to move on. Because I thought in those six days,
Speaker 3: like why am I here? You know, you have all
Speaker 3: the thoughts like, am I gonna be able to dance again?
Speaker 3: Blah blah blah blah blah, like all the things. Right,
Speaker 3: I called a Katie's manager. I'm like, look, I'm in
Speaker 3: the hospital. I'm supposed to leave. I tell the doctors.
Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm supposed to leave for Australia in two days.
Speaker 3: Like there's no like I have to go. Obviously I
Speaker 3: didn't get to go when I was scheduled to go,
Speaker 3: and Katie's managers and everybody, Katie's so graciously like I like,
Speaker 3: take your time. And then you know, I ended up
Speaker 3: missing two stops in Australia. I missed h and I
Speaker 3: met them in Sydney, you know, my first time a
Speaker 3: fly alone. I'm still on painkillers, but I'm like, I'm
Speaker 3: finishing this tour and they let me back. I got
Speaker 3: to finish the tour and then but I also knew
Speaker 3: I was like, okay, like you know, you really got
Speaker 3: to get this like second career, this hair thing going.
Speaker 3: Because like I'm not a naysayer, but I was definitely
Speaker 3: also like it's never going to get bigger than this,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like with the biggest pop
Speaker 3: star getting at the height of her career doing the
Speaker 3: height of the jobs, like all the jobs, right, the VMA's,
Speaker 3: the Grammy's like you, the super Bowl, the super Bowl,
Speaker 3: you do all the jobs, and you're like, how many
Speaker 3: of these jobs do I want to keep doing? Which
Speaker 3: not to naysay, you can keep doing them and they're
Speaker 3: amazing and all the experience, they're just so amazing. But
Speaker 3: I also wanted to like move my life in a
Speaker 3: way where I felt like, you know, Okay, I was
Speaker 3: able to accomplish one thing and then time to move on,
Speaker 3: and you know, dance is still with you. You know,
Speaker 3: dance is still with me today.
Speaker 1: You know, like I feel like such a common refrain
Speaker 1: you hear from athletes too, of just like what do
Speaker 1: I do when my body's not cooperating with me?
Speaker 3: Dancers get a bad rap like we are we are athletes.
Speaker 3: People think it's like, oh, they're just have kids having
Speaker 3: a good time. We work at this, and we work
Speaker 3: our bodies for this, We train for this.
Speaker 2: We work hard.
Speaker 3: I want the publish your or whoever to know that, like,
Speaker 3: dancers work so hard and it is a lot of work.
Speaker 1: I feel like everyone has their version of this. But
Speaker 1: being physically forced to stop and reevaluate as such a
Speaker 1: like intense powerful thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was so strong and it was something like
Speaker 3: my dreams were met. I had a gracious team. Katie
Speaker 3: was so gracious. I had my family, I have a partner,
Speaker 3: you know, like, I had all these support systems that
Speaker 3: were great in terms of being able to be like Okay,
Speaker 3: what's next and still being supported and going through that.
Speaker 3: So yeah, after that, I took a year off to
Speaker 3: get my license, and then I stumbled upon some amazing
Speaker 3: celebrity hairstylists, one of them being George Serrano who owns
Speaker 3: this salon, assisted him for a few years and assisted
Speaker 3: a ton of other amazing stylists to just make sure
Speaker 3: I had a foundation similar to dance. It really was
Speaker 3: like taking a piece of humble pie to really know
Speaker 3: that I could do this, but like know that these
Speaker 3: people have been doing this for eons before me. I
Speaker 3: need to realize that and learn my lessons, which I
Speaker 3: did and again land on my feet and be successful
Speaker 3: in this whole other way, which is amazing.
Speaker 2: So you've been doing hair full time since like twenty sixteen.
Speaker 3: Seven, Yeah, twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen, As you said, like
Speaker 3: be in the city and be able to build this,
Speaker 3: but also like so many of my like relationships have
Speaker 3: just crossed over. You know, I've seen other of my
Speaker 3: dance friends like on set and it's interesting. You know,
Speaker 3: it's slash fun to have them see me do hair
Speaker 3: and then you know they're choreographing now or something like that.
Speaker 3: So it's really it's really great. It's it's it's like
Speaker 3: I say, like, I'm in the same industry. I just
Speaker 3: like jumped departments.
Speaker 2: And you're in a different chair.
Speaker 3: Yea, yeah, yeah, that's so cool. Totally. I'm still that
Speaker 3: artist at heart, which I'm just grateful in a way
Speaker 3: to have like evolved as an artist and just been
Speaker 3: able to continue my path, but just in a different way.
Speaker 1: How do you look back on that moment now where
Speaker 1: it's like life has changed and you've evolved as an
Speaker 1: artist and a person.
Speaker 3: When you say it like that, it seems like an eternity.
Speaker 3: But in the same hand, it also seems like yesterday.
Speaker 3: You know, it's time is a weird thing that it's
Speaker 3: been ten years. It's taken that time for me to
Speaker 3: enjoy it, be grateful for that and also understand the
Speaker 3: opportunity that that's presented to me from that one time,
Speaker 3: and I'm so grateful that people enjoy that moment and
Speaker 3: enjoy Katie and enjoy they're enjoying the super Bowl for
Speaker 3: what it is in the halftime show, for what it is,
Speaker 3: a fun time. I love that it wasn't like overly
Speaker 3: criticized or it's this, or that it was a moment
Speaker 3: in time that was fun. And that's what we're here
Speaker 3: to do, to share our art. We're here to like
Speaker 3: just do that share.
Speaker 1: Thank you so so much to Brian Goff for his
Speaker 1: time and his openness. You can follow his work over
Speaker 1: at the links in the description. This interview just put
Speaker 1: me in a terrific mood. I think it is so
Speaker 1: incredible that Brian listened to his gut and tried something
Speaker 1: new and has built a really impressive career for himself.
Speaker 2: Twice.
Speaker 1: It made me feel like making changes in my own
Speaker 1: life was possible, and it was because Brian gaw always
Speaker 1: did his own thing. He trusted his instincts, he trusted
Speaker 1: his passion and didn't do what was expected or prescribed
Speaker 1: to him. And wait, is this the perfect conclusion I've
Speaker 1: stumbled upon? Brian has built a fascinating and successful life
Speaker 1: by embracing his inner left shark. Well, I'm not going
Speaker 1: to stick the landing harder than that, Brian gaw aka
Speaker 1: left shark. You will always be famous to me. But
Speaker 1: your sixteenth minute ends now.
Speaker 2: And here's your moment of fun. More bad reviews of.
Speaker 4: Elvis Presto, whether you watched it in three D or not,
Speaker 4: the show was overwrought and boring, said one caller to
Speaker 4: the Daily Press. I just so by not have in
Speaker 4: my glasses, I missed something you didn't.
Speaker 1: All the three D dip was bring out how horrible
Speaker 1: this Elvis Presto?
Speaker 4: Care was the get Elvis Presto. I'll take the three
Speaker 4: stages in three D any day over the fifties flailings
Speaker 4: of lukewarm songs and dance. What was the big deal
Speaker 4: about the halftime? What is with these ponytails of guys?
Speaker 4: Isn't Barbara Bush? That's your refreshing change from Nancy Reagan
Speaker 4: for first lady. I think she's going to be a
Speaker 4: good one. I'm actually looking forward to the next four years.
Speaker 2: Bye.
Speaker 1: Sixteenth Minute is a production of fool Zone Media and iHeartRadio.
Speaker 1: It is written, posted, and produced by me Jamie lostis.
Speaker 1: Our executive producers are Sophie Lichterman and Robert Evans.
Speaker 2: The amazing Ian Jonquin is our supervising producer and our editor.
Speaker 1: Our theme song is by Sad thirteen and Pet Shadouts
Speaker 1: to our dog producer Anderson, my Kat's Flee and Casper
Speaker 1: and my pet Rockberg, who will outlive us all.
Speaker 2: Bye Bye,