1 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to the favorite. It's from the Volume podcast Network 2 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:21,120 Speaker 1: Massive Massive Show. It's time to enter the Thursday Thunderdome. 3 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:27,479 Speaker 1: On today's show, our special guests will compete alongside my 4 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:31,639 Speaker 1: co host, my bff, my companion Professional Sports Better Simon Hunter, 5 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:34,839 Speaker 1: in an epic test of wagers and wits that's quickly 6 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 1: made this show the most celebrated tangentially sports betting related 7 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 1: audio program since the advent of the recorded voice, Simon, 8 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:48,240 Speaker 1: Before I get to our guests, how are you any 9 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 1: burner cars that you're leaving in parking lots? And he 10 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 1: bags of cash you're taken anywhere? What's going on? I 11 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 1: could be Man, it's gonna be a weird chat in 12 00:00:57,080 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 1: like a couple of years. You know. I'm gonna be 13 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 1: talking to like future wife. Hopefully she's gonna say how 14 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 1: do you make all your money? And it's not gonna 15 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:06,400 Speaker 1: because of the action networker sports betting. It's gonna because 16 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 1: some meme stock and some meme crypto currency. Because I'm 17 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 1: one of those people that bought AMC all the way 18 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 1: back in January, and I bought BlackBerry back in January. Chad, 19 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:20,959 Speaker 1: I'm flushed. Your boy is flushed, right, now nothing makes sense. 20 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:24,199 Speaker 1: You know, my greatest wish for you is to find love. 21 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 1: You know, I'm a huge fan of love and I 22 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 1: want you to experience that. And if it happens from 23 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 1: this podcast, all the better. Simon a man who needs 24 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 1: no introduction, Your first challenger, a powerhouse in the sports 25 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 1: world as the CEO of Harris Blitzer Sports Entertainment, which 26 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 1: owns and operates the Advancing Philadelphia seventy and the New 27 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 1: Jersey Devils. Let me just say this. He's got a book, 28 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 1: a new book called Be Where Your Feet Are. Seven 29 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 1: Principles to keep you present, grounded, and thriving. It's got 30 00:01:56,520 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 1: insights and lessons from millions of people, not millions, but many, 31 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 1: many people that hear, millions of people, influential people in 32 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:11,119 Speaker 1: business and sports, personalities, athletes, multiple NBA commissioners, award winning filmmakers. 33 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 1: Let me say this before we actually let Scott O'Neill 34 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:18,079 Speaker 1: speak after he's been spoken to, Because he is an 35 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 1: incredibly admired executive in sports. I have had the pleasure 36 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 1: of hearing him speak on panels and also moderating a 37 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:28,800 Speaker 1: panel that he's on. For anybody who aspires to go 38 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 1: to any kind of panel who wants to be in 39 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:35,119 Speaker 1: the sports space, the sports business space. Like nobody says 40 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:38,360 Speaker 1: anything on these things except for one person, Scott O'Neill, 41 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 1: who you will walk away from a panel after listening 42 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:44,680 Speaker 1: to him speak. I've heard him speak in massive rooms 43 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 1: and on zooms and he will give you something to 44 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:50,799 Speaker 1: take away that feels real and authentic, and you're like, 45 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 1: all right, that's a guy who gets it. Scott, Welcome 46 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 1: to the Thunderdome. Thank you, it's good to be here. 47 00:02:57,440 --> 00:03:00,519 Speaker 1: Big Mad Max fan forever it's worth loves thunder Dome 48 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:02,959 Speaker 1: back in the day. I appreciate those nice words. I 49 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 1: think you guys feel this way too. I mean, we're 50 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 1: the luckiest people in the world. I mean to get 51 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 1: to do what we do every day and make a 52 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 1: living doing this. It beats a stick in the eyes, 53 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:14,920 Speaker 1: I like to say, and it certainly beats working for 54 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:18,079 Speaker 1: a living. So the fact that I'm not savvy enough 55 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 1: not to leave any real nuggets on the table, that's 56 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:23,119 Speaker 1: something I'm working on. I appreciate this platform and I'm 57 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 1: I'm ready to go. Let's go. You are, no doubt 58 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 1: a man, it was too big to be joining us 59 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 1: for this, But We're happy to have you. Uh the 60 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:35,119 Speaker 1: second the second competitor today, not close to big enough 61 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 1: to be on this podcast, but we're still in. Let's go, Uh, 62 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 1: senior writer, one of the best connected journalists covering the 63 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 1: NBA today, A kid because I care, A renowned gambler 64 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 1: of second quarterlines, also loves to play team totals. Primary 65 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 1: nemesis of Fred Van bleets Mr Matt Moore, How are you, buddy? 66 00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 1: Thanks for having me on me excited to be on 67 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 1: with you guys. Even if I can only barely reach 68 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 1: above the bar to get on this podcast, I appreciate that. 69 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 1: Here's how we're going to play this game today, folks. Uh. 70 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 1: Two kinds of questions will be answered. First, traditional trivia 71 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 1: questions about sports, sports, betting, the world at large. Second, 72 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 1: completely subjective and totally assinine, open ended questions that I 73 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 1: alone will judge truth be told, I almost always root 74 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 1: for Simon to intimate points. Uh. You must not only 75 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:32,919 Speaker 1: answer these trivia questions correctly, you also must convince me 76 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 1: that your responses to these prompts are better than the 77 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 1: responses from your opponents, specifically Simon Part one epic fails. Scott, 78 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 1: You're a big time player in the sports business world, 79 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 1: and The Wall Street Journal recently wrote about you. In 80 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:52,160 Speaker 1: their article about you, you are credited with the quote 81 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 1: failure is the best teacher. It's just not a fun teacher. 82 00:04:57,320 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 1: As representatives of the sports betting community we here at 83 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 1: the Favorites Podcast couldn't agree more. Enormous embarrassing failures are 84 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 1: stitched into the very fabric of sports gambling. So let's 85 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 1: take a look at some of the infamous failures a 86 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:16,559 Speaker 1: k A. Incredible teachable moments in sports history Simon Forty 87 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 1: two years ago, the Chicago White Sox ran a promotion 88 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:23,160 Speaker 1: in which fans could purchase discounted tickets if they dropped 89 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:28,160 Speaker 1: off specific vinyl records. Eventually, crates of the collected vinyl 90 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:30,720 Speaker 1: were blown up between games of a doubleheader in July 91 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 1: of nineteen seventy nine. The ensuing fire on field riot 92 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 1: and game cancelation art was arguably the franchise's lowest moment 93 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:44,280 Speaker 1: since it intentionally lost a World Series six decades earlier. 94 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 1: The entire disastrous stunt led Bay local rock dj began 95 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 1: as an organized rebellion against this nineteen seventies music fad, 96 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:01,479 Speaker 1: and I was there at that game this go. You 97 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 1: were not at that game, you weren't even alive, then 98 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 1: you don't know what I've what I've done. It's famously 99 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 1: documented in so many different places, but of course, I, 100 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 1: being from Chicago and actually being alive for that, remember 101 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:18,160 Speaker 1: it very well. But what's also interesting is the Bags 102 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:21,839 Speaker 1: just had a documentary about them on on you know, 103 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 1: one of the services, the streaming services, and I didn't 104 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 1: realize how prolific they were, but they were on tour 105 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:31,839 Speaker 1: when this happened, and their tour basically collapsed after this night, 106 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 1: like it became the backlash against disco, and what happened 107 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 1: with the Bags became so relevant it ruined like what 108 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 1: had been an amazing long career at the time for 109 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:46,480 Speaker 1: the Beach's Barry give reference. Early is always critical of 110 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 1: the podcast. Listen. You're an esteemed author. I'm also an author, 111 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:54,920 Speaker 1: and now together as authors, we are recognizing greatness. Chad 112 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 1: Milman wrote a book. It's sometimes difficult as authors to 113 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 1: be on a podcast with non authors. I mean, have 114 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 1: you noticed that, honestly, Scott, Sometimes it's difficult as an 115 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 1: author to be talking to anybody who hasn't done anything 116 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 1: of equal value as writing a book. Fine, I'm not 117 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 1: I'm not hurt at all. It's fine, But you know what, 118 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 1: I do what I can. I try to live sort 119 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 1: of benevolently Matt. After in the New York Mets released 120 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 1: this former star with five point nine million dollars remaining 121 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 1: on his contract. Rather than buy him out, the team 122 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 1: negotiated a financially ridiculous deferral schedule and now pay him 123 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 1: one point two million dollars every year from two thousand 124 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 1: eleven to two thirty five. The Blunder is commemorated with 125 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 1: each annual installment, and July one has become an unofficial 126 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 1: holiday that bears this player's name. You started me with baseball. 127 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 1: Of all things, you started me with baseball. I come 128 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 1: on this podcast for you. I've worked hard for you. 129 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 1: I've been on Action Network things, and you start me 130 00:07:54,920 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 1: with baseball. By the way, so wrong. I'm not even 131 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 1: gonna throw Matt Mitchell under the bus for right. This 132 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 1: might be the only one I get. I will let 133 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 1: you answer this one and Matt can have the next 134 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 1: one because it's an NBA question. Bobby Right, that's right, 135 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 1: Matt Mitchell. I want you to give Scott an extra 136 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 1: point for being a gracious, gracious guest. Not only does 137 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 1: he write amazing, best selling books, but he also takes 138 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 1: one on the chin for people he's competing against. He 139 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 1: gets an extra point for that. Matt, here's your question. 140 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:38,959 Speaker 1: Just as Kevin Garnett was hitting his prime with the 141 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:42,079 Speaker 1: Timberwolves in the year two thousand, the NBA suspended both 142 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 1: the Minnesota GM and owner and stripped the two Wolves 143 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 1: of four first round draft picks after a top secret 144 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 1: contract scheme was exposed centered around this player, the top 145 00:08:53,559 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 1: pic in draft Joe Smith. Joe Smith. That one is 146 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:03,960 Speaker 1: up there, That one's up there for Whenever executives talk 147 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:07,560 Speaker 1: about that, uh, the the interesting like commentary on that 148 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 1: is always pretty amazing. Whenever I talked to executives as 149 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 1: an idea of like, oh, yeah, you should definitely try 150 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:15,320 Speaker 1: and get an edge in every conceivable way. Oh no, 151 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 1: you've gone too far and now you've wrecked the franchise 152 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:20,839 Speaker 1: like that, that kind of commentary, I think it is 153 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 1: always really interesting in terms of what that what that 154 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:24,959 Speaker 1: entire deal is like. Clearly it was a bone headed 155 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 1: move that they got busted on, but at the same time, 156 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:30,720 Speaker 1: talking to executives about how you have to search for 157 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 1: every edge, and how competitive pro sports is versus making 158 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:37,319 Speaker 1: those kind of mistakes and the consequences that they can 159 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:40,320 Speaker 1: lead to. I'm always fascinated to hear executive takes on 160 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 1: that true story story. I wrote the very first story 161 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 1: ever about Kevin Garnett. I was home in Chicago. I 162 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:51,560 Speaker 1: read a story about him in the Tribune. Transferring to 163 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 1: Farragut High School, went down to Farrogate, interviewed him in 164 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 1: his coach's office. I was working at Sports Illustrated at 165 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 1: the time, went back to New York, wrote this where 166 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:02,559 Speaker 1: he filed it. Got a note from the managing editor 167 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 1: at the time, said, this is an amazing story. Thank 168 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:07,960 Speaker 1: you for writing it. We're sending Jack McCallan to go 169 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:14,840 Speaker 1: write a cover story that I have. I have second 170 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:17,680 Speaker 1: hand Kevin Garnett story. So he gets to Brooklyn. You 171 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 1: know that whole that trade was kind of funky at 172 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 1: that time, and and Brookelyn was going for it. Boston 173 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 1: was chuckling, and you know, the whole, the whole adventure. 174 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 1: And Kevin Gardner, as you know, it's very tense guy. 175 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:31,439 Speaker 1: And so first preseason game he's in Brooklyn, comes in 176 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:33,440 Speaker 1: the locker room and Darren Williams was on on his 177 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 1: phone texting and he walks over, picks up the phone, 178 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 1: grabs it, throws as hard as he can against the 179 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 1: wall and smashes the pieces and he's like, get your 180 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 1: head in the game, and then walks out. I gotta 181 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 1: tell you he was always amazing. He was always an 182 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:53,320 Speaker 1: amazing guy to cover. He was playing for Minnesota and 183 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 1: I was working at the time for c n N 184 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:58,079 Speaker 1: S I like this new fangled network, and we needed 185 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 1: to interview him, and the t Wolves PR wouldn't let 186 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 1: him be interviewed before the game. So we grabbed him 187 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 1: coming off the court after the game, before going to 188 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 1: the locker room, and we put him in a room 189 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 1: and we interviewed him, and the Timberwolves PR guys are 190 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 1: banging on the door, and Kevin Garnett where he keeps 191 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 1: looking at the door as if he is so angry 192 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 1: that he's being interrupted from an interview where we weren't 193 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 1: even supposed to be interviewing him. Uh, the intensity levels 194 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 1: were very high. His agent, Jim Smaller, is a good 195 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 1: good friend of mine and she loves him, raves about 196 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 1: him a human beings, so her words is good for me. 197 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:33,720 Speaker 1: I was going to joke that that when you did 198 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 1: that storry on him in high school, and I was like, 199 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 1: and that was the last time that Kevin Garnett ever 200 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 1: willingly spoke to a journalist, that notorious Garnett. Yeah, I 201 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:46,320 Speaker 1: mean he was notoriously like. I would say that the 202 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 1: guys that covered him loved covering him because the small 203 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:53,680 Speaker 1: interactions felt so big. It's just that they were so 204 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:55,840 Speaker 1: few and far between, which is honestly, if you're gonna 205 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:57,960 Speaker 1: be an NBA superstar, that's the way to do it. 206 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 1: All Right, here we go Part one prompt. Now that 207 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:04,719 Speaker 1: we've waded into the chili waters of epic failures, I'll 208 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 1: have you turn the lens to yourselves. Please give me 209 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 1: a moment in your sports or sports betting career that 210 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:14,959 Speaker 1: resulted an abject failure. Then tell me the lesson you learned. 211 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:20,960 Speaker 1: The contestant whose lesson proves the most timeless and invaluable 212 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 1: to our listeners will be declared the winner. I mean, Scott, 213 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:26,960 Speaker 1: this is right up the alley with your books. Simon response, First, 214 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 1: what do you got? I always ate really healthy before 215 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 1: football games, and when I was in high school, Chad 216 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 1: Johnson became really famous and he ate McDonald's all the time, 217 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:43,200 Speaker 1: and that's what you eat before football games. So I ate, 218 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 1: I mean ten dollars worth of McDonald's, which is like 219 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:48,320 Speaker 1: thirty pounds of food back then. Not that I like 220 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 1: I cramped up, but I was getting cramps a little 221 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 1: bit in the first quarter, and by the second quarter, 222 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:55,960 Speaker 1: I had, I am, how to say, without sunding super gross. 223 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:58,440 Speaker 1: I took a hit and I pretty much had the 224 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:02,080 Speaker 1: runs on the field. So I'm running off the field 225 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 1: of my legs pinched Alex in a full sprint beeline 226 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:07,560 Speaker 1: to the bathrooms in the middle of the field. So 227 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 1: that was definitely a lesson learned about eating habits before 228 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:14,840 Speaker 1: sporting events. Simon poops his pants. I mean, that's that's 229 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:17,720 Speaker 1: pretty good. I'm gonna categorize it as that one. Uh, 230 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 1: Matt Moore, you're upe. Can you beat an embarrassing moment 231 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 1: that teaches a lesson not to eat bad food before 232 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 1: a sporting event? Otherwise you poop your pants? Simon Paul 233 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 1: Pierce Hunter. So over Scott's left shoulder is a jersey 234 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 1: of the great Moses Malone. I happened upon him in 235 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:38,200 Speaker 1: research like he was too young, Like he literally won 236 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 1: m v P the year I was born and I 237 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 1: missed out. And then I was doing an article when 238 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 1: I was working at NBC. I was actually about yell ming, 239 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:46,320 Speaker 1: but I happened upon his numbers and I I was like, 240 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 1: this is insane, Like these numbers are absolutely ridiculous. I 241 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:50,680 Speaker 1: was like, he couldn't have been this good. So I 242 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 1: went like YouTube hunting and trapped and started like recording 243 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 1: classic games on NBA TV, and I became like really 244 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:01,440 Speaker 1: infatuated and just like really thick stated on Moses because 245 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:03,440 Speaker 1: he's this forgotten m v P in the history of 246 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:05,560 Speaker 1: the league. He does not get the kind of respect, 247 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:07,959 Speaker 1: and his story is so incredible as one of the 248 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:10,680 Speaker 1: preps to pros guys that comes out of high school 249 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 1: and dominates in his career in Houston and then going 250 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:16,440 Speaker 1: to Philly and being the missing link for them. I 251 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 1: just think that Moses was such a fascinating story. And 252 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 1: I decided at some point, after having written like four 253 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 1: articles about him in the like in the off season, 254 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 1: that there's no like news reason for it. I just 255 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 1: loved writing about Moses. I was like, I really want 256 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 1: to write a book about it, Like nobody's written the book, 257 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 1: and I'm at an All Star game and I've like 258 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 1: I thought about ideas and stuff like that and being 259 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 1: an author like the two of you great authors, including 260 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 1: seven time author Chad Milman, not that he will ever 261 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 1: remind you of that. Like the career dream for me 262 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 1: is like I I very much want my dad to 263 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 1: be able to go to a bookstore and written a 264 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 1: book with this answer, what's your answer? I saw Moses 265 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 1: Malone in an All Star game, had an opportunity to 266 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 1: go up to him and pitch him, met him, talked 267 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 1: to him, got gunshy and missed the opportunity and at 268 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 1: that point like since then, and he unfortunately passed away. 269 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 1: A few years ago. I had pitched the family and 270 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 1: they politely declined. It's the answer is you need to 271 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 1: take your shot when it was presented to you. You 272 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 1: have to pursue these opportunities. If you care about something, 273 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 1: do not let those things pass you by because you 274 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 1: will not get another chance. I mean, it's a lovely sentiment, 275 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 1: but it took you so long to get there. Scott 276 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 1: Rick Moses story. I know, I know this is your show, 277 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 1: but I have a quick story. I have to share 278 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 1: it because the Moses shout out, I get to the sixers. 279 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 1: We don't have relationship with any of our lums, none 280 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 1: of them, okay. And so I called Bill Cunningham. I 281 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 1: know he went by Billy, but he goes by Bill now. 282 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 1: And I said, Bill, I need help. He's been a 283 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 1: mentor of mine for a long time, wonderful guy. And 284 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 1: I said, I need help with these seven guys. It's like, sure, 285 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 1: I'll set up so you know, we cleaned up a 286 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 1: lot of the past ills and the two guys that 287 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 1: we couldn't get any trash with Moses and Andrew TONI 288 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 1: ANDREWTONI still not come back into the family here and Um. 289 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 1: And so I called my good friend Fred Whitfield. He 290 00:15:56,800 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 1: runs the Hornets. He set me up with Moses Um 291 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 1: as his who t is runs this charity event. And 292 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 1: he sat me next to him for four hours. He's like, look, 293 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 1: all I can do is I'll give you the entree 294 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 1: and Um because we wanted to retire as Jersey and 295 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 1: he's like no, And I said, I just don't understand 296 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 1: why you won't have your tire Jersey chard. He said, well, 297 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 1: it's not fair to all the people that worked with me. 298 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 1: And so we came up with that night that we 299 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 1: were gonna stitch every name of every player he ever 300 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 1: played with on the outside of the of the banner. 301 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 1: And then he died like four months later. Wow. And 302 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 1: so then I was trapped, and my marketing guys like, 303 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 1: we gotta do it. I'm like, no, no, no, no, 304 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 1: no no. We we need some time to pass, and 305 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 1: then we need to speak with the family. I would 306 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 1: have killed to have read the book that you wrote 307 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 1: on Moses, because he was wonderful and smart, had a 308 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 1: great business mind and obviously when of great rebounders and 309 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 1: dominant big men of all time. But great. I love 310 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 1: you lesson. Even though Chad didn't like and I know 311 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 1: he's a seven time author, I loved your lesson. Listen. 312 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 1: I think that this is proving why you're so popular 313 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 1: on panel. It's also proven why I'm not popular with 314 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:05,399 Speaker 1: the people on my team. I thought Matt's answer, I 315 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 1: think you basically got the whole book. In Matt's answer, 316 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:11,439 Speaker 1: I don't think there's anything left to read. Scott. And 317 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 1: while your story is lovely, give me your answer two 318 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 1: quick stories, because I don't want to be worthy one 319 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 1: and they're both related. And they both say the same thing. One. 320 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:21,639 Speaker 1: I was pretty good basketball player in high school. I 321 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:24,159 Speaker 1: went to Villanova. I worked out with the team and 322 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 1: Robleig Massimino was the coach and they took walk ons 323 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:28,679 Speaker 1: at the time, and so they kept two of us 324 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 1: to practice with the team. I getting cut another story 325 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 1: for another day. But after the football season they brought 326 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 1: up with us. Nonetheless, I am there and there's a drill. 327 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 1: Raleigh would get mad. He was screamed plus screaming guy, 328 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 1: and we had to stand there on the block while players, 329 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 1: you know, ran actually take a charge. That was the drill. 330 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 1: When things went bad, He's like, okay, on the block, 331 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 1: you're taking a charge. That was the drill. Guys are 332 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:52,200 Speaker 1: on full speed at you and I'm little. I'm I'm 333 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:53,960 Speaker 1: like a hundred and eighty five pounds now. Then I 334 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:56,160 Speaker 1: was like a hundred pounds with thirty I'm little now. 335 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 1: That was small, And I remember Doug West came and 336 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:01,440 Speaker 1: ran to me, and I felt like I was gonna 337 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:04,120 Speaker 1: die six six big guy, and then Gary Massey came 338 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:06,119 Speaker 1: and jumped over me okay and just kicked me in 339 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 1: the face and dumped. And my big lesson was is 340 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 1: that you need to find out what your lane is 341 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:13,920 Speaker 1: and what you can be world class in, and you 342 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:16,240 Speaker 1: just spend their time there and not where you're not 343 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 1: the second basketball story and I'm gonna use another one, 344 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:20,399 Speaker 1: and I may not win, but I'm gonna win the 345 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:22,960 Speaker 1: I'm gonna win the points. We were playing pick up 346 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 1: at the Knick's training training center when I was the 347 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 1: president there and we happen to play with Patrick Ewing Jr. 348 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 1: Who was rehabbing his ankle, and we conned Alan Houston 349 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:33,400 Speaker 1: into plane just because I was talking so much ship 350 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:36,359 Speaker 1: in the office and Alan Houston could barely move. And 351 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:38,639 Speaker 1: I told him that like fifteen times when we were playing, 352 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:41,640 Speaker 1: like and I kept saying because Pal starring, and I'm like, yeah, 353 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 1: I'll just get he can't go by you. He can't 354 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:47,120 Speaker 1: even move. And Alan didn't say a word because he's 355 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:49,399 Speaker 1: the nicest man in the world, and he proceived to 356 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 1: just keep moving back. It was like, just kept moving 357 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 1: back and shooting jumpers. And I was very humbling once again, 358 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 1: and my lesson there was keep your mouth shut and 359 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 1: you're playing with extraordinary people. Look, Simon reminded everybody that 360 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:09,439 Speaker 1: they shouldn't poop their pants and that's imports. You guys 361 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 1: gave life lessons. Scott, You've got a whole book about 362 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 1: life lessons, and Matt basically gave us a whole book 363 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 1: in his life lesson. This is so hard. I think 364 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 1: I'm going to give it to Scott because he gave 365 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 1: us two guesses. Well that everyone was a guest, and 366 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:31,439 Speaker 1: I usually were for Simon. But but but you you 367 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:34,360 Speaker 1: did two things. One Alan Houston is the only Nick 368 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 1: I ever liked, because I hate the next being from 369 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:40,920 Speaker 1: Chicago too. You had Moses Malone, who my favorite my 370 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:43,160 Speaker 1: favorite basketball team, my favorite sports team of all time 371 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 1: are the three Sixers. I love Villanova and Roley Massimino 372 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:49,159 Speaker 1: because I love that eight team. So I'm giving it 373 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 1: to you. Let's go. There you go, All right, let's 374 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:55,680 Speaker 1: go to the next. Here we go. The devil is 375 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 1: in the details are esteemed guest. Scott o'neo is the 376 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:02,399 Speaker 1: CEO of the New Jersey Devils. So in this podcast 377 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 1: time on tradition of pandering, I will now test your 378 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 1: knowledge of all things devils. Here we go. Scott in Ridley. 379 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 1: Scott directed a dark fantasy adventure film entitled Legend. Actor 380 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 1: Tim Curry received raved reviews for his portrayal of the 381 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:22,200 Speaker 1: Lord of Darkness, and the film's makeup work was Oscar nominated. Unfortunately, 382 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 1: the film was a financial flop, which was crazy considering 383 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:29,479 Speaker 1: the film started this legendary leading man two years after 384 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 1: he started the football movie All the Right Moves, and 385 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 1: five years before he be named People Magazines Sexiest Man 386 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 1: Alive All the Right Moves, which, by the way, takes 387 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 1: place in the state of Pennsylvania. It is Rob Low, 388 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 1: Tom Cruise, Close Close, Matt. Among college football's Power Five conferences, 389 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 1: there are two programs with the word devil's in their 390 00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 1: name for one point. Each named them Duke Blue Devils 391 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 1: Demon Deacons. Wait, Forest Demon Deacons. That doesn't quite have 392 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:12,159 Speaker 1: the phrase devil in it. We were looking for the 393 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 1: literal use of the phrase Arizona State. Scott's not getting credit, Matt. 394 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:21,680 Speaker 1: I was hoping it was you. If that counts for anything, signon. 395 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:26,959 Speaker 1: This Looney Tunes character was a staple of Tackies sports apparel. 396 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 1: Oh is that the whole question? You say it again. 397 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:38,879 Speaker 1: This Loony Tunes character was a staple of Tackies sports apparel. 398 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 1: Tasmanian Devil Scott the standard center of A deviled egg 399 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:51,159 Speaker 1: is egg yoke mixed with mayonnaise, pickle, relish, vinegar, and 400 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:59,919 Speaker 1: this condiment pre Dijon mustard. Man, you are falling apart. 401 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:05,960 Speaker 1: Matt Moore. This up tempo bluegrass song Pete number three 402 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 1: on the Billboard Charts in ninety nine. This doesn't seem 403 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 1: fair the highest in history for a song about a 404 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:16,960 Speaker 1: high stakes fiddle contest. The Devil went down to Georgia, 405 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 1: Down to Georgia. The Devil went down to Georgia. He 406 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 1: was looking for a soul to steal. He was in 407 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 1: a band because he was way behind, and he was 408 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:27,359 Speaker 1: willing to make a deal. Wow, let's go, come on, 409 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 1: come on. I heard that song all the time growing up. 410 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 1: I feel like, you know what. I want to give 411 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 1: you two points for that, Matt Mitchell. Give him two 412 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:34,879 Speaker 1: points for that, because it was a bad clue and 413 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:39,200 Speaker 1: he still got it. Simon arguably the most famous daredevil 414 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 1: of all time. This man unsuccessfully attempted a mile long 415 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:51,240 Speaker 1: jump of Idaho Snake River Canyon in evil Evil, very nice, 416 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 1: well on the speed round. Here we go. This is 417 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 1: the prompt. We're getting back to creativity. In popular culture, 418 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 1: the devil is often portrayed as a deft but ruthless 419 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:06,440 Speaker 1: negotiator and deal maker, but the same can be said 420 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:09,920 Speaker 1: for some of the top front office executives and pro sports. 421 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:15,639 Speaker 1: If you had to bet oh God on one current 422 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 1: pro sports executive to get the better of the devil 423 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 1: himself in a negotiation, who would you choose? Scott, You 424 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 1: cannot choose yourself. Matt you are up first. You want pander, 425 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:29,240 Speaker 1: I'm going to pander. But it's actually also my answer. 426 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:31,680 Speaker 1: It's Daryl Morey. It's absolutely Darrell Morey. The deal that 427 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:35,639 Speaker 1: he pulled with Tracy McGrady to the Knicks, getting James Harden, 428 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 1: then getting value in every deal that he made throughout 429 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:41,399 Speaker 1: that time, the the level, and also just having talked 430 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:44,959 Speaker 1: to Darryl about his approach to negotiating, like there were 431 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 1: players that played great, and so many executives make the 432 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 1: mistake of getting emotionally attached to their players, which there's 433 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 1: ups and downs to both sides of that equation. But 434 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:56,199 Speaker 1: he did such a good job of never overpaying for 435 00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 1: players that were role players and then committing to the 436 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 1: players that were really worth it. Darryll got leverage on 437 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 1: every talking to other NBA sections stole him like like, 438 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 1: I mean, it's easy to get up here. Everybody knows 439 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 1: where the real town is. But when you bring t. J. 440 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:13,160 Speaker 1: McConnell in to this league, don't get me a little 441 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 1: Robert Covington, little sprinkle a little cub cub on you, 442 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,399 Speaker 1: you know, or find it Isaiah Cannon to drop a 443 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:20,680 Speaker 1: cannonball on you. You know. My money's on Sam Hickey. 444 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:25,480 Speaker 1: I don't feel like you are answering the spirit of 445 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 1: the question, which is was he a great negotiator? Is 446 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 1: he who would get on a on a four year 447 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 1: man deal? Yeah? He invented the four year Mindy Okay, alright, Simon. 448 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 1: So I feel like this guy is the least talked 449 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:43,640 Speaker 1: about GM ever and he's by far the greatest GM ever. 450 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:47,359 Speaker 1: And that's the Epstein. The guy literally turned Boston into winners, 451 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:51,720 Speaker 1: and then with the Chicago the Cubs. The Cubs won 452 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 1: a World Serious people forget the Cubs actually won a 453 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 1: World Series. So if I was gonna send if the Devil, 454 00:24:57,640 --> 00:24:59,920 Speaker 1: I didn't negotiate with someone, I'd sent THEO because you'll 455 00:24:59,920 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 1: have of all the numbers and everything he needs to 456 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:04,680 Speaker 1: get the best deal out of the Devil. Holy crap. 457 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:06,720 Speaker 1: I think. I think there's three grade which I think 458 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:08,399 Speaker 1: Matt hit it on the nail on the head when 459 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 1: he said, like, all three of these guys are emotionless. 460 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:16,920 Speaker 1: All three of these guys like discount relationships and that's hard. 461 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:19,200 Speaker 1: I think that's the hardest thing. I think all three 462 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 1: of these guys have in common. I think I hit 463 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:23,439 Speaker 1: the ball, hit the nail on the head. Listen. Thanks. 464 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:27,480 Speaker 1: I love Darryl Morey. I think he's a total genius. 465 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 1: And I think the way he won in Houston and 466 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:33,879 Speaker 1: now the way this Sixers team is advancing, which is 467 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 1: an entirely different style of play, a style of play 468 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 1: that Darryl will you know, you could argue when he 469 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 1: was in Houston was pioneering sort of the the idea 470 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:46,440 Speaker 1: of efficiency around three pointers and having a different style 471 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:50,640 Speaker 1: of play in Philly. Love him great, Sam Hanky, huge fan. 472 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 1: Feel like he does not get nearly enough credit. Obviously, 473 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:57,720 Speaker 1: it becomes sort of mocked for the process um and 474 00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:01,720 Speaker 1: not getting to sort of see how that team develops 475 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:05,440 Speaker 1: over time. But come on, guys, Simon wins this round 476 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 1: like theo Epstein, what he did in Boston, what he 477 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 1: did in Chicago, as a Cubs fan, as a guy 478 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:16,399 Speaker 1: who across from my current view, I'm looking at a 479 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:19,119 Speaker 1: W flag and my ticket from the World Series in 480 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:23,280 Speaker 1: two thousands sixteen. He fought ace, he found a way 481 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:28,359 Speaker 1: to pander and gameless. Simon shameless, shameless, totally shameless. Matt Mitchell, 482 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 1: what is our score right now? Right now, Matt Moore 483 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:36,160 Speaker 1: has three points, Scott on Nils two. It's it possible 484 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:39,200 Speaker 1: that Simon has four, Scott has two and Matt has three. 485 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:43,080 Speaker 1: This is amazing. I'm still gonna lose though. That's the 486 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 1: worst part. You know, like I'm in last, but have 487 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 1: a lot of momentum. You do, You have a lot 488 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 1: of momentum. I feel like you have a lot of 489 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:53,480 Speaker 1: goodwill more than anything. All Right, here we go Part three. 490 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:56,400 Speaker 1: Philly's Finest. The city of Philadelphia has long been known 491 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:58,919 Speaker 1: for its diehard sports fans and is now becoming a 492 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:02,240 Speaker 1: booming market for had sports gamblers as well. So let's 493 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:06,440 Speaker 1: check your knowledge regarding the city of brotherly love, Scott, 494 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 1: whether you choose to see it as sad or beautiful. 495 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 1: One of Philadelphia's most beloved icons is Rocky Balboa, the 496 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 1: entirely fictional boxer portrayed by Sylvester Saloon. The original Rocky 497 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:21,360 Speaker 1: and its many sequels are ingrained in pop culture, including 498 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:29,639 Speaker 1: the popularization of this nickname Rockies Equestrian inspired ringside moniker 499 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 1: Italian style. Very nice. I mean, look, this is well. 500 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 1: You need a little help. You're in the last place 501 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:44,879 Speaker 1: right now, Simon. This franchise boasts two championships and the 502 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:49,520 Speaker 1: longest tenure in all of professional athletics. They've sported the 503 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 1: same name in the same city since the late eighteen hundreds. 504 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 1: The Phillies Boom matt In the two thousand one NBA Finals, 505 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:03,399 Speaker 1: two teams met unexpectedly. While this Western Conference team was 506 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:06,800 Speaker 1: plus one eighty to win it all that season, the 507 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 1: underdog opponent was nine to one just to win the 508 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:16,760 Speaker 1: Eastern Conference name the combatants in the two thousand one 509 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:23,359 Speaker 1: NBA Finals Lakers sixers. Nice. As someone whose son will 510 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 1: soon be living in the fighting city of Philadelphia, I'm 511 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:31,240 Speaker 1: a huge, huge fan of the city. Great, great, great chat. 512 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 1: Here here's the well bought out. But I was I 513 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 1: just need the second part to really engage. I didn't 514 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 1: have anything else there, and my kids going to Drexel 515 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 1: in the fall. That's kind of it. I'm just congrats 516 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:50,160 Speaker 1: on raising a child. Here we go. With enough this 517 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 1: is the prompt. With enough drama, a team can win 518 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 1: a championship and watch its players elevate from beloved athletes 519 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 1: to long term municipal heroes. Oh this is good. Imagine 520 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:05,200 Speaker 1: you could dramatically win a championship for any team, and 521 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:09,280 Speaker 1: assume your goal is to become a city's beloved, adopted son, 522 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 1: held in the highest esteem for generations to come. What 523 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:18,320 Speaker 1: team would you select, in what dramatic way would you 524 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 1: win a championship? And in what way would you take advantage? 525 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:25,240 Speaker 1: For example, to clear it all up, Matt Mitchell, our producer, 526 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 1: uh he scores all five of the Buffalo Bills touchdowns 527 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:31,160 Speaker 1: in a Super Bowl victory, plus the sixty yard game 528 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,920 Speaker 1: winning field goal of time expires. He take advantage of 529 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 1: this by having the American side of Niagara Falls renamed 530 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 1: in his honor, So at least it's nothing too grandiose. 531 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 1: Matt Moore, Detroit Lions overtime kickoff return. They name a 532 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:53,000 Speaker 1: truck after me, a Matt Truck. Today. Dan Campbell, new 533 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 1: coach of the Detroit Lions, showed up to his press 534 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 1: conference wearing an f one helmet because he is the 535 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:02,200 Speaker 1: Grand Marshal of Detroit Grand Prix Scott. Your answer, I 536 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:06,640 Speaker 1: am the goalie for the Leafs. Uh we go four 537 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:10,960 Speaker 1: four four, just like Moses predicted. But in Toronto they 538 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 1: renamed Scotia Bank Arena the Scotts Bank Arena. Yeah that 539 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:20,640 Speaker 1: is great. Well, those are two loser franchises and you 540 00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 1: guys are coming through in a big, big way. Simon, 541 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:26,120 Speaker 1: you're up. Can't compete. Yeah, they're too good. I was 542 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 1: just gonna go with like the Jets, and I basically 543 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:30,760 Speaker 1: was gonna go a quarterback. Can Now the more I 544 00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:33,000 Speaker 1: think about I think I would go d ND the quarterback, 545 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:34,320 Speaker 1: and the other team would in the Super Bowl be 546 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:37,760 Speaker 1: running the ball, running the offensive lineman's but and they'll fumble. 547 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:40,280 Speaker 1: I'll scoop it up. I'll running for a touchdown and 548 00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:42,480 Speaker 1: it'll be the reverse of the butt fumble. I'll save 549 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 1: the Jets history. I think it's funny that very inadvertently 550 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:49,760 Speaker 1: you pooped in your pants playing football in the first round, 551 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:54,040 Speaker 1: and in the third round you're winning a game involving 552 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 1: the tushy. The buff bubo. Man, it's all I when 553 00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 1: I think of the Jets now I don't think a 554 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 1: name of anymore. All I think of is the bubb fumble. 555 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,080 Speaker 1: It's it's a it's a dark days for the Jets. 556 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:04,440 Speaker 1: Let me tell you something. Scott's gonna win this round. 557 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 1: The idea of getting an arena, the being in goal, 558 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:09,719 Speaker 1: which is the most exciting position to play in the 559 00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 1: most exciting playoffs in all the sports. Uh, and it 560 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 1: being the Leafs, which their tragedy for the playoffs is 561 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 1: becoming comical and also a meme of international proportions because 562 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:24,000 Speaker 1: it's spreading from Canada to the U S. Here we 563 00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:27,920 Speaker 1: go into the final round. The score, Matt Moore, you 564 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:33,240 Speaker 1: have four, Scott O'Neil u f four. Simon Hunter you 565 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:42,080 Speaker 1: have five. I know exactly how this is gonna go. Okay, okay. 566 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:46,040 Speaker 1: The topic in the grand finale is NBA anthems. First, 567 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:49,280 Speaker 1: close your eyes, close your eyes, very high tech. Hold 568 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:52,400 Speaker 1: up your fingers with your wager amounts. So Scott and 569 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:55,360 Speaker 1: Matt you can each wager up to four points. Simon 570 00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:58,520 Speaker 1: you will wager up to five points. Here we go, 571 00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:03,560 Speaker 1: all right. In then seventies, the Philadelphia seventies Sixers commissioned 572 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:08,040 Speaker 1: a theme song entitled here Come the Sixers, which became 573 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:12,160 Speaker 1: a favorite in the city and was played frequently enough 574 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:18,280 Speaker 1: through their run to the NBA Championship in The song 575 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:22,240 Speaker 1: fell out of favor for decades, but was recently resuscitated, 576 00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:26,320 Speaker 1: thanks in part to our guests and author of Be 577 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:30,560 Speaker 1: Where Your Feet Are seventy s CEO Scott O'Neill, and 578 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,280 Speaker 1: can now be heard in the arena after home victories. 579 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 1: One of the songs writers drew inspiration for the songs 580 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:42,200 Speaker 1: catchy rhythm and simple lyrics from this classic children's show 581 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:46,680 Speaker 1: after watching an episode with his daughter on the local 582 00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:54,480 Speaker 1: public broadcasting station. What is the classic children's show that 583 00:32:54,600 --> 00:33:07,120 Speaker 1: inspired the songs? Rhythm and lyrics? Back Everybody, Welco seventy 584 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:23,040 Speaker 1: six Stop everybody, Pladelphia secondy sixes, Ada on the right 585 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:38,240 Speaker 1: stand the bench number one Pelphia team by one five 586 00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:49,959 Speaker 1: sixers eight seventy sixes one to five sixes. Scott O'Neil, 587 00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:54,960 Speaker 1: author sports executive. You were up first. Okay, I'm not 588 00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:57,520 Speaker 1: too sure of this, but my my instincts are telling 589 00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:00,280 Speaker 1: my good is time. It's sesme Street. How which did 590 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:05,640 Speaker 1: you wager? Four? He went all in? He is correct. 591 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:14,120 Speaker 1: O'Neil now has eight points. Wow. Matt Moore. Matt Moore, 592 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:19,480 Speaker 1: what is your answer? I said, reading Rainbow. Oh no, 593 00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:28,440 Speaker 1: what how many points did you wager Matt Moore? Oh no, 594 00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:33,880 Speaker 1: Now Matt has zero points. That pushed them all in, 595 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:37,120 Speaker 1: which I appreciate. You followed your own advice after whizzing 596 00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:39,200 Speaker 1: on Moses Malone. You went all in. You shot your 597 00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:42,680 Speaker 1: shot like Moses Malone. It didn't work out. Simon Hunter, 598 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:47,440 Speaker 1: you are up next. This is stressing me out, and 599 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:51,840 Speaker 1: I'm not sure why. I'm feeling like competitive are flowing. 600 00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:53,440 Speaker 1: I'll tell you right now. It's a chance to be 601 00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:56,600 Speaker 1: the champion of the Thunderdome. Let me break it on 602 00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:59,000 Speaker 1: the fourth wall here, Chad says he's trying to help me. 603 00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:01,440 Speaker 1: I have yet to in this show. We've been doing 604 00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:04,279 Speaker 1: it now for about four months. I have yet to win. 605 00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:08,520 Speaker 1: I come in here every Thursday and I lose. And man, 606 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:10,440 Speaker 1: it feels good because this question, like you said, what 607 00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:12,960 Speaker 1: was it nineteen seventy nine, so it's twenty one years 608 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:17,520 Speaker 1: before I was born. That's me Street. I got it. 609 00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:21,480 Speaker 1: I released all five points. I finally won all. I 610 00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:26,960 Speaker 1: want to welcome to the thunder Dome, dude, Simon Hunter, 611 00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:34,440 Speaker 1: I'm blast in Tupac as we speak, California. Oh my god, 612 00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:37,240 Speaker 1: I am so excited for you. I'm sad for Scott 613 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:41,360 Speaker 1: because I feel like he he really played well and 614 00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:44,880 Speaker 1: all are learning though happens when we fail, that's true, 615 00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:47,160 Speaker 1: and you know what, at the top of the show, 616 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:49,520 Speaker 1: failure is not always a fun, teacher, but in this case, 617 00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:52,000 Speaker 1: I think you can argue it was. It was very 618 00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:55,400 Speaker 1: fun teacher, Simon Hunter. Congratulations on your first win in 619 00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:59,920 Speaker 1: the thunder Dome. The book is be where your Feet 620 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:03,880 Speaker 1: our seven principles to keep you present, grounded, and thriving. 621 00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:06,680 Speaker 1: Congrats on the book. That's super exciting to write a book. 622 00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:09,120 Speaker 1: It is super exciting to have it published. You are 623 00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:15,200 Speaker 1: now a author, unparalleled and executive unparalleled. Well done. I appreciate. 624 00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:16,640 Speaker 1: I'd love to have and you guy all want to 625 00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:19,959 Speaker 1: come down to a game. Let me know. Matt Moore, 626 00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:26,240 Speaker 1: Action Network Senior Writer Analyst extraordinariy. You are on everything 627 00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:29,640 Speaker 1: we do and you are so appreciated and valued by 628 00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:33,760 Speaker 1: me and everybody in the Action Network universe. I'm sorry 629 00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:36,520 Speaker 1: this one didn't work out, but you will have other 630 00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:40,120 Speaker 1: chances again next time. Scott, listen, I gotta take my 631 00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:42,920 Speaker 1: kid to Drexel. I'll come down, We'll go to Vettery. 632 00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:46,640 Speaker 1: We'll see I would it. Simon, you can come to 633 00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:49,719 Speaker 1: you're in the area. Thank you. Uh. This has been 634 00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:57,440 Speaker 1: the favorites from the Volume Podcast Network. Downloaded on Apple Podcasts, 635 00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:02,359 Speaker 1: from Spotify, wherever you get your podcast. Before we sign off, 636 00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:05,680 Speaker 1: here's a word from our fearless leader, Action Networks CEO, 637 00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:10,800 Speaker 1: Philadelphia native Patrick Key. They say I'm an American dream waitment. 638 00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:14,279 Speaker 1: I'd like to explain something, you know. I ain't punch you. 639 00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:17,400 Speaker 1: I got what you call like, I don't know, relaxed brain. 640 00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:19,040 Speaker 1: But I ain't punch you. You know, it's just the 641 00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:22,000 Speaker 1: way I talk here. All right Again, this has been 642 00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:24,640 Speaker 1: the favorites from the Volume Podcast Network. My thanks to 643 00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:27,560 Speaker 1: our guest Scott O'Neil, Matt Moore, Simon Hunter. Be sure 644 00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:30,440 Speaker 1: to check out Scott O'Neil's new book, Be Where Your 645 00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:32,880 Speaker 1: Feet Our seven Principles to keep you present, grounded and 646 00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:36,120 Speaker 1: thriving again. It's available now. As a reminder, the Volume 647 00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:39,160 Speaker 1: is now on YouTube. We've got new clips and interviews 648 00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:43,240 Speaker 1: from all the networks shows. 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