WEBVTT - Salty Dogs Podcast with Demar Dotson 0:00:00.840 --> 0:00:03.040 What do you call two guys that were there when 0:00:03.120 --> 0:00:06.040 this happened? Back to return at Spurlock, Michael Spurlock at 0:00:06.040 --> 0:00:08.239 the chin. He's still the twenty He's the twenty five 0:00:08.320 --> 0:00:12.280 party to the board of yarline to history, fifty forty, 0:00:12.600 --> 0:00:15.960 the thirty yards Michael Rock, Michael Run, Michael run to 0:00:16.200 --> 0:00:20.560 stop Tapola. There you go, and then sixty two yard 0:00:20.640 --> 0:00:28.840 field goal attempts. It is God, God, God, God, box 0:00:29.160 --> 0:00:32.400 be the Eagles, who can forget again? I'm looking at 0:00:34.200 --> 0:00:38.080 the already Derek Boks dilready touchdown table day, Derek Brooks, 0:00:38.240 --> 0:00:42.000 the lost pariotal player in the national football Like there 0:00:42.000 --> 0:00:44.640 it is the Daggers in where you're gonna win the 0:00:44.680 --> 0:00:49.640 Super Bowl. We call them the Salty Dogs. Welcome everybody 0:00:49.680 --> 0:00:53.360 to the Sunny Dogs Podcast, the Soup number five. I'm excited. 0:00:53.360 --> 0:00:55.480 I'm glad to be bad. We are the Salty Dogs. 0:00:55.480 --> 0:00:57.600 And men boys. You just heard was Jeff Ryan and 0:00:57.680 --> 0:01:00.360 I am Scott Smith, and uh we you have a 0:01:00.400 --> 0:01:02.400 special one for you. They're all kind of special, kind 0:01:02.400 --> 0:01:03.920 of when you only have five of them. Yeah, it's 0:01:03.960 --> 0:01:06.479 like if you have five kids, if you're on this show, 0:01:06.600 --> 0:01:09.360 it's special. No matter if this is a show, or 0:01:09.640 --> 0:01:11.440 how many kids you have to have before like they've 0:01:11.440 --> 0:01:14.440 become not special anymore. I think every child is special, 0:01:15.520 --> 0:01:18.680 Isn't that nice? So these are our kids, and today's 0:01:18.720 --> 0:01:21.520 guest is the first time we've had a current player. 0:01:21.920 --> 0:01:23.960 And if you're gonna get something, you want to tell stories. 0:01:24.480 --> 0:01:26.000 Let's start with a guy who's been around here the 0:01:26.000 --> 0:01:29.440 longest and one of the great all time guys, just 0:01:29.560 --> 0:01:32.000 really way back he is. He's always been one of 0:01:32.000 --> 0:01:35.000 my favorites. And I like him because he wasn't drafted. 0:01:35.080 --> 0:01:39.600 He's the underdog. He's proved himself over and over again, 0:01:39.840 --> 0:01:42.039 and you know, I like that, and I'm gonna ask 0:01:42.080 --> 0:01:44.640 him about that because, um, he's got a really interesting 0:01:44.680 --> 0:01:46.960 origin story. So we'll get to that here pretty soon. 0:01:47.360 --> 0:01:49.400 But let's just catch up on what's going on. First 0:01:49.440 --> 0:01:52.080 of all, we've had another game since the last podcast 0:01:52.120 --> 0:01:55.400 of preseason. Very long game. Yeah, delayed by an hour, 0:01:56.400 --> 0:01:59.200 and you know, Jeff, I know it's a preseason game. 0:01:59.360 --> 0:02:02.360 I know it. And we went in six and that's 0:02:02.400 --> 0:02:05.720 really what mattered. Basically, our starters, both teams played all 0:02:05.760 --> 0:02:07.800 their stars of first half, and just because of the 0:02:07.880 --> 0:02:10.919 lateness and the delay, coach Cutter decided not to send 0:02:10.919 --> 0:02:13.040 his stars back out in the second half. The Lions did. 0:02:13.360 --> 0:02:15.000 The Lions did for a couple of series or two, 0:02:15.040 --> 0:02:17.040 and that's not there's that's not a problem for either side. 0:02:17.040 --> 0:02:19.440 That's just what it was. By the time that stretch 0:02:19.520 --> 0:02:21.680 was over, the Bucks were winning twenty seven six. That's 0:02:21.720 --> 0:02:24.240 what matters. Yet I'm sitting there in the press box 0:02:25.000 --> 0:02:27.399 and I'm getting so angry when they were coming back. 0:02:27.440 --> 0:02:29.680 I'm like, why do I care? It doesn't matter. But 0:02:29.800 --> 0:02:31.760 I couldn't help. But I was so mad because you're 0:02:31.800 --> 0:02:34.400 in a competitive individual. If we had to fight for 0:02:34.440 --> 0:02:37.720 that bottle of water, you'd have me on exactly No. 0:02:38.120 --> 0:02:39.760 But I knew, like ten minutes after the game, I 0:02:39.800 --> 0:02:41.160 knew it didn't matter. Maybe it's because I knew I 0:02:41.160 --> 0:02:43.960 was going to rewrite the intro to my story. Yeah, 0:02:44.000 --> 0:02:47.400 And it's just it's just good to win, you know. 0:02:47.639 --> 0:02:50.560 And and if you ever take losing like it doesn't matter, 0:02:50.800 --> 0:02:53.480 then then that's an issue. I know what happened. Remember 0:02:53.560 --> 0:02:55.919 last time we were saying we were talking about the 0:02:55.960 --> 0:02:58.320 two four no teams, the two teams that went oh 0:02:58.400 --> 0:03:02.000 in sixteen Detroit and uh and in Cleveland, last year 0:03:02.040 --> 0:03:05.600 and four season, so we said we need to lose 0:03:05.600 --> 0:03:08.120 one of these times. We didn' perfect. You did well 0:03:08.240 --> 0:03:10.000 enough to feel like you win, but you didn't win 0:03:10.120 --> 0:03:14.600 well brilliant. The thing is, though, the team played really, 0:03:14.639 --> 0:03:17.839 really well, and and I'm not the only one, there's 0:03:17.840 --> 0:03:20.240 a number of people are starting to agree on this. 0:03:20.600 --> 0:03:24.160 What we saw was very exciting. Um, I don't know 0:03:24.200 --> 0:03:26.040 how good Detroit's going to be, but at the end 0:03:26.040 --> 0:03:29.600 of the day that it was their starters also, so yes, 0:03:29.800 --> 0:03:31.760 and so I did like that. You know, if you've 0:03:31.800 --> 0:03:34.160 got three wide receivers who were killing it all at 0:03:34.200 --> 0:03:36.000 the same time, you can get excited about playing them 0:03:36.000 --> 0:03:38.440 all together. In the field. We have three quarterbacks who 0:03:38.440 --> 0:03:40.040 are playing really well, but you can only play one 0:03:40.040 --> 0:03:42.800 of them. You know, they're combined pass running for fits 0:03:43.000 --> 0:03:48.960 and Griffin and Jameis Winston is combined. There's six touchdowns, 0:03:48.960 --> 0:03:52.200 no interceptions, they're they're all playing fantastic, but only one 0:03:52.200 --> 0:03:54.080 of them is gonna play at the time unless we 0:03:54.080 --> 0:03:56.480 come up some crazy. But it is a nice feeling 0:03:56.520 --> 0:03:59.120 though that if something doesn't go right, you got someone 0:03:59.160 --> 0:04:02.040 ready to go. And and Ryan Griffin it's just really 0:04:02.560 --> 0:04:05.880 impressed me. It's It's been very exciting to watch him play. 0:04:06.080 --> 0:04:09.440 He's got some good touch. You know, the difference when 0:04:09.480 --> 0:04:11.800 you see and this year it's Austin Allen. When you 0:04:11.840 --> 0:04:14.680 see that guy who's new and he might be talented 0:04:14.680 --> 0:04:17.719 to um, but he's new to the NFL into the 0:04:17.720 --> 0:04:20.039 buck system, and it's the level difficulty is so much harder. 0:04:20.040 --> 0:04:21.800 And then you see Ryan Griffin. You know, Okay, he's 0:04:21.839 --> 0:04:24.360 never taken a regular season snaps, so in some ways 0:04:24.360 --> 0:04:25.880 he doesn't have a lot of experience, but he's got 0:04:25.880 --> 0:04:27.960 a lot of experience. When he's out there, he's in 0:04:28.000 --> 0:04:31.200 control and he's calm. And I know he's generally played 0:04:31.240 --> 0:04:33.440 against with reserves against reserves, and you have to factor 0:04:33.480 --> 0:04:36.320 that in, but he himself has looked calm and look 0:04:36.400 --> 0:04:38.680 like he can make the throws. And he also understood 0:04:38.680 --> 0:04:40.720 what the play was right. And then you get the 0:04:41.000 --> 0:04:43.440 rookie at the end, he's thrown in there. It's tough. 0:04:44.960 --> 0:04:47.160 I'm hoping that Austin Allen gets a chance to play 0:04:47.240 --> 0:04:50.839 two or three quarters on Thursday and acquits himself nicely. 0:04:50.880 --> 0:04:54.880 I hope he gets that opportunity. He's putting tape out 0:04:54.920 --> 0:04:57.640 there for thirty two teams as people are find of 0:04:57.680 --> 0:05:00.279 saying this time of the year and that you only 0:05:00.320 --> 0:05:04.080 way is you have to You don't know who's watching. Ever, 0:05:04.640 --> 0:05:06.279 It's kind of like doing a show like this. You 0:05:06.279 --> 0:05:09.400 don't know who's listening. You know, NBC could be calling 0:05:09.440 --> 0:05:11.479 you soon. Who knows. I think the mar is gonna 0:05:11.480 --> 0:05:14.039 be listening. Yes, I hope so. Yeah, he said he 0:05:14.080 --> 0:05:18.080 wanted to. He was. He was happy way at the show. Um. 0:05:18.200 --> 0:05:20.719 What else I liked from this game? The first drive. 0:05:21.279 --> 0:05:23.360 The one thing we hadn't done well to that to 0:05:23.400 --> 0:05:26.280 this point was run the ball. Ran the ball very 0:05:26.279 --> 0:05:28.640 well on that drive. It was all Peyton Barber and 0:05:28.720 --> 0:05:30.480 he every single one of his runs is good. I 0:05:30.520 --> 0:05:35.040 mean every play on that drive except for one to 0:05:35.120 --> 0:05:36.840 gather Let's say, you know how many how many players 0:05:36.920 --> 0:05:39.880 in the drive looks like there was eight eight plays 0:05:39.880 --> 0:05:42.000 and drive. Every play had at least got at least 0:05:42.040 --> 0:05:44.919 four yards except one that got three yards. If you 0:05:44.960 --> 0:05:47.160 can do that on a regular basis, you're going to 0:05:47.240 --> 0:05:49.360 move the ball to score points. What I liked even 0:05:49.360 --> 0:05:52.080 more about it is it was an hour before. It 0:05:52.200 --> 0:05:54.240 was an hour delay, and they came out and they 0:05:54.240 --> 0:05:57.880 started fast. That's what I like. All of our games. 0:05:57.880 --> 0:05:59.920 Our guys are starting fast this year, and that was 0:06:00.080 --> 0:06:03.000 so huge actually not just last year but for years 0:06:03.080 --> 0:06:09.040 now starting fast and and because and because of the disruption, 0:06:09.120 --> 0:06:11.200 and it is a disruption not only for the for 0:06:11.240 --> 0:06:13.920 the players. Something is a disruption for everybody. But it wasn't. 0:06:14.400 --> 0:06:16.920 It wasn't. I mean, we we were on the air 0:06:17.320 --> 0:06:22.520 for an hour. Well, and I'm happy because I've got 0:06:22.520 --> 0:06:25.160 a couple of guys that will talk forever with with 0:06:25.240 --> 0:06:28.000 the Gene and d J and David there we've had 0:06:28.040 --> 0:06:30.919 on our show. Sure, And then we were taking questions. 0:06:30.960 --> 0:06:34.800 So it was fun in that aspect. But you know, 0:06:34.839 --> 0:06:36.480 you want to kick off. When it's time to kick off, 0:06:36.480 --> 0:06:39.039 you're ready to go. And and so I did like 0:06:39.120 --> 0:06:42.480 the fact how whatever Dirk did with you know, getting 0:06:42.480 --> 0:06:45.599 the guys focus for that period of time because you're 0:06:45.600 --> 0:06:48.200 just they're just sitting around in the locker room. Yes, 0:06:48.520 --> 0:06:50.839 you know. Another problem with those like hour long delays 0:06:50.880 --> 0:06:53.120 before games is that the Bucks probably have the best 0:06:53.160 --> 0:06:57.040 Press Fox food in the league. It's certainly up there, 0:06:57.680 --> 0:06:59.440 and uh, that's a problem when you have an extra 0:06:59.480 --> 0:07:02.280 hour and around to eat. Yes, it's it's all good, 0:07:03.880 --> 0:07:05.360 but it was, But but all in all, it was 0:07:05.400 --> 0:07:07.680 a fun game. I enjoyed it. It was a lot 0:07:07.720 --> 0:07:10.400 of fun. Um, we've had a couple we've had a 0:07:10.440 --> 0:07:13.600 couple of guys go on. I R since the last 0:07:13.600 --> 0:07:17.400 time we talked, Charles Sims, he's had rough luck. So 0:07:17.560 --> 0:07:20.920 I think about Charles Simms in that two thousand fifteen 0:07:20.920 --> 0:07:22.680 season when he was able to play sixteen games and 0:07:22.720 --> 0:07:25.640 the offense was good. He looked great, and so he's 0:07:25.680 --> 0:07:28.080 he's got skills, he's had some he's had some rough 0:07:28.160 --> 0:07:30.280 luck and it happened to him again. I guess I 0:07:30.280 --> 0:07:34.640 should say Charles Sims third, right, Yes, Pete, don't start that. 0:07:35.840 --> 0:07:40.120 Unless your father played in the NFL. There's only a 0:07:40.160 --> 0:07:44.160 few that can go. As you know, the second it 0:07:44.240 --> 0:07:47.840 made sense for Kevin Winslow where yes, unfortunately he didn't, 0:07:48.040 --> 0:07:51.160 you know, play as well as his father did. Understates 0:07:51.240 --> 0:07:53.760 he's had trouble living up to he's had trouble just 0:07:54.000 --> 0:07:56.200 he just had the trouble living life. But that's a 0:07:56.280 --> 0:07:59.200 whole other story. But no, I I yeah, I I 0:07:59.240 --> 0:08:01.200 don't understand, and I mean I guess, I guess you're 0:08:01.200 --> 0:08:03.240 paying respect to your father and all of that, but 0:08:04.000 --> 0:08:05.760 you know, I don't know your dad, So if you're 0:08:05.800 --> 0:08:08.480 the third, I'm not going to confusion with your But 0:08:08.840 --> 0:08:10.680 that's a salty dog. I was gonna say. I had 0:08:10.680 --> 0:08:12.360 to give you an opportunity to be salty. Thank you. 0:08:12.480 --> 0:08:14.600 I appreciate it. And then it keeps me going. A 0:08:14.680 --> 0:08:17.480 fortunate thing for Sergio Bailey, the rookie wide receiver who 0:08:17.520 --> 0:08:20.800 was having such a good preseason in camp, he gets 0:08:20.840 --> 0:08:24.080 hurt in warm up. Scott, I watched it. I saw 0:08:24.120 --> 0:08:27.440 it happen. It was crazy because we were, you know, 0:08:27.480 --> 0:08:32.360 as they were starting to warm up. We're on the clock. Then, 0:08:32.679 --> 0:08:34.199 you know, we need to know when they're going to 0:08:34.320 --> 0:08:36.839 kick off. There's certain things in a broadcast that has 0:08:36.880 --> 0:08:39.320 to be done, has to be timed out. So I 0:08:39.360 --> 0:08:41.240 am looking on the field trying to figure out a 0:08:41.240 --> 0:08:44.080 couple of things, and I saw him go down, and 0:08:44.400 --> 0:08:46.719 uh immediately grabbed the binocular because I don't know who 0:08:46.760 --> 0:08:50.600 it was, and um, it didn't look good from the 0:08:50.640 --> 0:08:55.720 get go. It clearly wasn't because that night and my 0:08:55.800 --> 0:09:00.600 heart went out for to him because Dirk Hutter just 0:09:00.679 --> 0:09:03.840 got done sane the week before. He was a guy 0:09:03.840 --> 0:09:07.880 that was standing out and so here's his opportunity to 0:09:09.000 --> 0:09:11.760 perhaps if he doesn't make this squad, perhaps and on 0:09:11.840 --> 0:09:14.960 the practice squad or someone else picks him up, and 0:09:15.040 --> 0:09:17.360 you know, it was such a flukey bad luck. It 0:09:17.400 --> 0:09:19.360 reminds me of and I was tweeting about this before 0:09:19.360 --> 0:09:22.600 the game. Reminds me of um Paris Warren at the 0:09:22.679 --> 0:09:27.280 end of the two thousand seven preseason Uh. And he 0:09:27.360 --> 0:09:30.240 catches in the fourth preseason game, he catches the winning 0:09:30.280 --> 0:09:32.800 touchdown pass at the end of the game, flying over 0:09:32.840 --> 0:09:35.319 the goal line as he catches it, and but he's 0:09:35.360 --> 0:09:37.200 tackled in a weird way and he breaks his leg. 0:09:37.400 --> 0:09:40.240 I think it's crazy. And Coach Gruden came out and 0:09:40.240 --> 0:09:41.959 said he had done enough, he was going to make 0:09:42.000 --> 0:09:44.559 the team. This is maybe a little bit different. I'm 0:09:44.559 --> 0:09:46.400 not sure Sergio had a great shot at making the 0:09:46.440 --> 0:09:48.480 fifty three because it's so deep there, but I think 0:09:48.520 --> 0:09:50.160 he had a shot at well, yeah, but I think 0:09:50.160 --> 0:09:51.840 he had a shot at maybe the practice squad, but 0:09:51.880 --> 0:09:53.480 someone else could pick him up. It's still such a 0:09:53.480 --> 0:09:56.360 bad luck because coach Cutter said they kind of abbreviated 0:09:56.360 --> 0:09:59.560 their warm up and they only ran four plays. They 0:09:59.640 --> 0:10:01.480 did some their stuff, but full team plays are in 0:10:01.520 --> 0:10:04.960 four of them. It was them and it didn't. He 0:10:05.040 --> 0:10:07.480 was planting and it slipped and that was that ankle. 0:10:07.520 --> 0:10:10.240 I think, yeah, it just looked like he slipped. It's 0:10:10.280 --> 0:10:13.680 a shame. Silver lining for Sergio though, he got put 0:10:13.760 --> 0:10:17.360 on injured reserve. This time of year, when guys, especially 0:10:17.400 --> 0:10:21.200 young guys who who were long shots anyway, get injured, 0:10:21.480 --> 0:10:26.640 you evaluate their injury and if it's determined that's gonna 0:10:26.640 --> 0:10:29.319 take six weeks to get back, they're usually waved injured, 0:10:29.559 --> 0:10:31.560 and then you reach an injury settlement with them that 0:10:31.600 --> 0:10:33.959 basically pays them the amount of time it would have 0:10:34.080 --> 0:10:35.960 They would have been paid until they got back, and 0:10:35.960 --> 0:10:39.440 then they're allowed to go and find employment elsewhere. Um 0:10:39.640 --> 0:10:41.800 Sergio was actually and it's a new rule that allows 0:10:41.880 --> 0:10:43.160 us to happen, and I think it has to do 0:10:43.240 --> 0:10:45.720 with the severity of the injury. But he went directly 0:10:45.760 --> 0:10:48.800 to injured reserve so he didn't have to go through waivers, 0:10:49.320 --> 0:10:51.920 and he doesn't. He's not gonna be waived. He'll stay 0:10:51.920 --> 0:10:54.480 on injured reserve for the whole year, so he'll still 0:10:54.480 --> 0:10:57.360 be around, he'll get to rehab here, he could still 0:10:57.440 --> 0:10:59.880 learn from his coaches. Uh No, he won't get it 0:11:00.040 --> 0:11:01.760 has to be on the practice squad and hone his 0:11:01.800 --> 0:11:04.120 game and maybe at some point he promoted, but he 0:11:04.200 --> 0:11:06.360 certainly will have a chance to heal and be back 0:11:06.360 --> 0:11:09.320 again next year. So it's it's a blip for him, 0:11:09.640 --> 0:11:11.240 but he was doing so well that hopefully we're gonna 0:11:11.240 --> 0:11:12.600 we haven't heard the last one. I do like that, 0:11:12.640 --> 0:11:14.680 silver lining. I like that. I like that a lot 0:11:15.120 --> 0:11:19.440 from the dark clouds of Friday night, but there was 0:11:19.559 --> 0:11:24.000 there was a fun thing, and that was the what 0:11:24.000 --> 0:11:25.640 what would we call it? Six? It was a hundred 0:11:25.720 --> 0:11:29.439 nine yard not a pun returning, how yet, well we 0:11:29.480 --> 0:11:32.800 will that's why bringing it up. Yeah, I'm just uh, 0:11:33.920 --> 0:11:36.839 it's a field goal return. How do they I can't 0:11:36.880 --> 0:11:39.839 return up the missfield? Okay, they'll tell you's a hundred 0:11:39.880 --> 0:11:42.520 nine yards. It doesn't going to any stats, no, but 0:11:42.640 --> 0:11:44.400 it's an it was an electric play and it was 0:11:44.400 --> 0:11:46.480 an exciting play on what I was really happy about. 0:11:46.520 --> 0:11:48.760 We nailed it. When I say we, I say, Jean, 0:11:49.160 --> 0:11:52.120 he nailed it totally. And and I'm gonna let you 0:11:52.160 --> 0:11:54.880 listen to it right now. It is. Yeah, it's really good. 0:11:54.960 --> 0:11:57.520 It's really good. You're ready, all right? Here it goes sixty. 0:11:58.400 --> 0:12:02.079 Here's the spot. The kick is going to be short 0:12:02.360 --> 0:12:05.000 can be returned by Humphreys p frees Ros to the 0:12:05.040 --> 0:12:07.760 fifteen po Frees to the twenty Potfrees was to the 0:12:07.840 --> 0:12:10.440 left side of the Cowboy Huffres to the thirty five 0:12:10.600 --> 0:12:13.599 Humphreys to the forty Humphries to the fifty Parallels to 0:12:13.640 --> 0:12:16.240 the forty got a block to the thirty Huffres to 0:12:16.320 --> 0:12:19.760 the twenty Humphres to the Chad hop Frisba scar Hey 0:12:19.800 --> 0:12:24.280 touchdown Champa Bay one hundred of dine Yard sick returned 0:12:24.600 --> 0:12:28.719 by and I'm Huffrees. How about that bad portrayal? Oh man, 0:12:28.840 --> 0:12:33.080 you're right, that was great that he was. It was 0:12:33.160 --> 0:12:35.599 funny because it was I have to give credit. It 0:12:35.679 --> 0:12:40.400 was a group effort because um you you you have 0:12:40.480 --> 0:12:42.800 to be watching the whole field. And for him, he's 0:12:42.800 --> 0:12:44.719 got a set up. He's looking at you know, it's 0:12:44.720 --> 0:12:47.040 a sixty three yarder. He's got to set up every 0:12:47.280 --> 0:12:50.600 the whole play for you and uh in his ear 0:12:50.640 --> 0:12:52.439 and I'll and I'll give t J credit. T J 0:12:52.640 --> 0:12:54.680 was on the sideline and he goes Humphries underneath the 0:12:54.679 --> 0:12:57.640 goal post, which I saw, and I go to Jean 0:12:57.800 --> 0:13:00.280 in his ear, Humphreys under the goal post, for he's 0:13:00.320 --> 0:13:02.520 under the goal post, so when it comes when it 0:13:02.600 --> 0:13:05.720 came down, he knew exactly who was there at that time. 0:13:06.200 --> 0:13:09.559 And it doesn't get a gene call. That doesn't get 0:13:09.559 --> 0:13:12.080 any better, doesn't get anything. You probably know now, I 0:13:12.080 --> 0:13:14.400 don't know if you know at the time the sequence 0:13:14.400 --> 0:13:18.719 of events there. Um, they called the time out and 0:13:18.960 --> 0:13:21.800 before their field goal and then before we're gonna they 0:13:21.800 --> 0:13:23.920 were gonna kick, we called a time out, and and 0:13:24.000 --> 0:13:26.040 your first reaction is, are we seriously I seeing the 0:13:26.120 --> 0:13:27.959 kicker in a preseason game on a sixty two yard 0:13:28.040 --> 0:13:31.680 or at halftime. But that wasn't why Chris Conti I assume, 0:13:31.800 --> 0:13:35.760 alertly on his own had gone down to field a 0:13:35.800 --> 0:13:38.120 potential missed field goal because it's an opportunity and someby 0:13:38.120 --> 0:13:41.680 should take advantage. So kudos to him. But coach obviously 0:13:41.679 --> 0:13:44.280 recognized what was going on to call to play. But 0:13:44.440 --> 0:13:45.920 I mean called the time out and put Adam out 0:13:45.920 --> 0:13:48.800 there and the rest of his history, I mean, you cannot. 0:13:48.840 --> 0:13:51.559 I don't care if it's a preseason game, it's still 0:13:51.559 --> 0:13:55.640 electrifying and as alertly Greg Ahman of now, if the 0:13:55.679 --> 0:13:59.800 Athletic pointed out the previous week the Buccaneers practiced that 0:14:00.160 --> 0:14:04.160 specific situation in practice, and it's funny the different situations 0:14:04.160 --> 0:14:07.680 they practice. Dirk made a comment after the game that 0:14:07.760 --> 0:14:10.840 they almost had one last year, but he but he 0:14:10.880 --> 0:14:12.679 got yeah, and but he came out and got hit 0:14:12.720 --> 0:14:15.160 around the thirty. But it was the same setup. So 0:14:15.200 --> 0:14:18.160 it's it's not like, oh, you surprised the Buccaneers on 0:14:18.240 --> 0:14:21.440 this one. It's funny that they you don't think about it, 0:14:21.480 --> 0:14:25.080 but they practice those those things will happen by accident. Uh, 0:14:25.120 --> 0:14:29.120 they practice. You're up by six and you're it's fourth down, 0:14:29.120 --> 0:14:30.480 your backed up way by your own goal, and you 0:14:30.520 --> 0:14:33.880 get in punt formation, but there's hardly any time left 0:14:33.880 --> 0:14:35.440 in the game, so you might as well just take 0:14:35.480 --> 0:14:38.080 a safety so you can do a safer free kick 0:14:38.400 --> 0:14:40.480 because there's not much difference between being up by four 0:14:40.520 --> 0:14:43.320 and being up by six. That might happen once every 0:14:43.320 --> 0:14:45.360 three years to a team, but you still practice it 0:14:45.320 --> 0:14:46.960 because when it happens, you gotta be ready. In the 0:14:47.000 --> 0:14:49.000 punter has to know he's supposed to take the snap 0:14:49.040 --> 0:14:51.720 and run over here. And I mean for that play 0:14:51.760 --> 0:14:53.320 to work, there's a lot of things that have to happen. 0:14:53.360 --> 0:14:56.000 Everybody has to do their job. Everybody has to and 0:14:56.840 --> 0:14:59.160 what was perfect and the whole time is Jeans doing 0:14:59.200 --> 0:15:02.800 the call. I'm going no flag, no flag, because I 0:15:02.840 --> 0:15:06.000 mean that was all I was looking for, and no 0:15:06.120 --> 0:15:08.360 flag once Adam broke free and you could see he 0:15:08.440 --> 0:15:10.360 was gonna make it. I was looking at all ours 0:15:10.360 --> 0:15:12.280 so field trying to find that yellow. Yeah, that was 0:15:12.480 --> 0:15:14.640 that was fun. The reason that play works is because 0:15:14.920 --> 0:15:17.160 a field goal team has made up largely of big 0:15:17.160 --> 0:15:20.200 blocking guys and they're not good at open field tackling. Yeah, 0:15:20.280 --> 0:15:23.520 Dave pointed that out that yeah, he pointed it out 0:15:23.600 --> 0:15:25.680 that he goes, Yeah, once it goes, you got a 0:15:25.680 --> 0:15:28.280 better shot at it, and you only I know we're 0:15:28.360 --> 0:15:31.160 running a little longer. But the other thing I want 0:15:31.160 --> 0:15:32.960 to bring up, and we talked about this and you 0:15:33.000 --> 0:15:35.560 actually tweeted it out during the game. If we run long, 0:15:35.600 --> 0:15:38.160 we can just we can just cancel the Mars part. 0:15:38.400 --> 0:15:40.680 Oh yeah, we don't need Yeah, sure that'll go that. 0:15:40.680 --> 0:15:46.440 That'll be a crowd please. Um. You brought up the 0:15:46.480 --> 0:15:52.680 fact that Mike Evans uh o p i um offensive 0:15:52.720 --> 0:15:55.840 pants interference and we talked about it and it was 0:15:55.920 --> 0:15:59.440 interesting because Dave Moore made a comment a he doesn't 0:15:59.440 --> 0:16:01.720 need to do that in that particular play. He does 0:16:01.760 --> 0:16:04.720 not need to do that now. O. J. Howard also 0:16:04.800 --> 0:16:07.920 got called for that, and Dave had a great explanation. 0:16:08.240 --> 0:16:10.320 He said, that shouldn't that should have not have been 0:16:10.400 --> 0:16:14.360 a penalty because he didn't push out. He kind of 0:16:14.360 --> 0:16:17.280 pushed to the side because the guy was grabbing him 0:16:17.360 --> 0:16:22.920 and that's a big difference. And he in watching the replay, 0:16:23.080 --> 0:16:24.920 he barely touched him at all. That's what we are, are 0:16:24.800 --> 0:16:28.200 are you? And he told us that he told us 0:16:28.240 --> 0:16:29.760 what happened because he went and talk to the reff 0:16:30.360 --> 0:16:33.600 and he's like, what happened there? And um, the guy says, 0:16:34.480 --> 0:16:38.960 from what I see you, you moved him too much. 0:16:39.040 --> 0:16:41.120 I have to your and so he's the ref basically 0:16:41.160 --> 0:16:44.720 told him, when you're ref and games with big guys 0:16:45.200 --> 0:16:48.120 with mismatches against smaller guys, and he referenced Gronk and 0:16:48.160 --> 0:16:51.520 the Patriots, you see the bigger guy and you see 0:16:51.560 --> 0:16:53.000 the smaller guy move a little more than you want 0:16:53.000 --> 0:16:54.920 to see a move, and you you have to throw 0:16:55.040 --> 0:16:57.000 in his mind, you have to throw a flag. And 0:16:57.080 --> 0:16:59.880 probably a majority of the times that's correct, and the 0:17:00.080 --> 0:17:02.560 particular case on him, he clearly didn't do it. So 0:17:02.760 --> 0:17:05.000 that's going to be the big key for Mike Evans. 0:17:05.280 --> 0:17:07.080 They're going to call it on him all the time. 0:17:07.160 --> 0:17:09.520 So he and I don't know if it's just a habit, 0:17:10.160 --> 0:17:12.520 you know, just that automatic before he catches the ball, 0:17:12.560 --> 0:17:14.960 he pushes. I'm a little bit more of an apologist 0:17:15.000 --> 0:17:17.680 on this than you and Dave are, because I think 0:17:17.680 --> 0:17:20.480 there's a lot of plays where the dB has his 0:17:20.560 --> 0:17:24.080 hands on him and Mike finds the ball first, and 0:17:24.119 --> 0:17:26.040 when he finds the ball, he's going, he's preparing to 0:17:26.080 --> 0:17:29.040 catch it, so he has to disengage the hands. He's 0:17:29.080 --> 0:17:31.320 not a lot of the times, I'm sure Mike Evans 0:17:31.400 --> 0:17:33.520 is pushed off, but a lot of times I feel 0:17:33.520 --> 0:17:36.560 like he's not pushing off. He's just disengaging and he's 0:17:36.600 --> 0:17:39.199 slowing down, stopping, and the dB continues going. So it 0:17:39.280 --> 0:17:43.280 looks like he pushed him. This one. There was five 0:17:43.320 --> 0:17:44.840 of us sitting up there and we saw the replay 0:17:44.880 --> 0:17:47.280 and there was not a total agreement on whether it 0:17:47.359 --> 0:17:49.080 was a good call or not. So I could be wrong, 0:17:49.119 --> 0:17:51.280 they could be wrong. And that's the problem, and is 0:17:51.280 --> 0:17:54.320 that that he has to avoid the appearance and for 0:17:54.520 --> 0:17:56.760 at least for a little bit of time. He has 0:17:56.800 --> 0:17:59.640 to do that because they're going to call it on him. Yeah, 0:17:59.680 --> 0:18:03.639 it's just that's his Oh yeah, he listen. Mike Evans 0:18:03.680 --> 0:18:06.119 is a great receiver, and you know, I'm not downing 0:18:06.200 --> 0:18:08.920 him at all. It's just it's unfortunate because he has 0:18:08.960 --> 0:18:11.879 made some awesome catches and I and I think some 0:18:11.960 --> 0:18:14.439 of those calls are bad. But it's just, you know, 0:18:15.400 --> 0:18:18.159 you know, perceptions reality that the perception is he pushes 0:18:18.200 --> 0:18:20.880 off all the time. He made a great catch there, 0:18:21.320 --> 0:18:24.120 absorbed a big hit, held onto it. Obviously it hurts. 0:18:24.160 --> 0:18:26.200 He was down for a while. Oh yeah, got caught 0:18:26.240 --> 0:18:27.679 right in a small on the back and I've had 0:18:27.720 --> 0:18:30.800 back surgery and I cringed. In fact, my back hurts 0:18:30.800 --> 0:18:34.520 after Seriously, you could tell, you could tell how up 0:18:34.520 --> 0:18:36.640 said he was because that whole time he was down, 0:18:36.680 --> 0:18:38.199 I don't think he realized yet that the penalty had 0:18:38.200 --> 0:18:39.800 been called on him. And then he rolls over and 0:18:39.840 --> 0:18:41.840 he realizes as an O P I And it was 0:18:41.880 --> 0:18:43.840 like it was it was like that scene in water 0:18:43.920 --> 0:18:46.520 Boy where they give given the water at the end 0:18:46.520 --> 0:18:48.639 and he pops straight up. That's what it looked like, 0:18:49.720 --> 0:18:52.720 straight up. He was mad. Yeah, in fairness, I think 0:18:52.720 --> 0:18:55.800 he should be. Yeah. Yeah, So so it's onward. Last 0:18:55.800 --> 0:18:59.880 preseason game and then uh, regular season begins. So yeah, 0:19:00.040 --> 0:19:03.080 you know next week will be when we're recording this. 0:19:03.119 --> 0:19:05.000 I doubt we'll talk at all about the last preseason 0:19:05.000 --> 0:19:07.000 analysts or with some rookie you made such a great 0:19:07.920 --> 0:19:11.920 unless an be talking about cuts because after the game, Uh, 0:19:11.960 --> 0:19:13.520 there may be some on Friday, but they have to 0:19:13.520 --> 0:19:16.560