WEBVTT - All Hands on Planetary Defense!

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<v Speaker 1>Brought to you by Toyota. Let's go places. Welcome to

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<v Speaker 1>Forward Thinking. Hey there, everybody, and welcomed you. Forward Thinking,

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast that looks at the future and says, how

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<v Speaker 1>can you just leave me standing alone in the world

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<v Speaker 1>that's so cold? I'm Jonathan Strickland and I'm Joe McCormick.

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<v Speaker 1>In today, we're going to be peering up into the

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<v Speaker 1>skies with horror, trepidations, with anxiety. Why would we do that? Well, Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>we decided to revisit a topic we've talked about previously.

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<v Speaker 1>So back in August, we released an episode titled It's

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<v Speaker 1>Coming Right for Us, and that was about the dangers

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<v Speaker 1>of space objects colliding with Earth, like asteroids and meteors

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<v Speaker 1>and comets and that kind of stuff. And so we

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<v Speaker 1>large pianos, very large ip really just the majority of

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<v Speaker 1>items that you can find in the ACME catalog. Wiley

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<v Speaker 1>coyote would get um. But we explored the potential options

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<v Speaker 1>of what we might do to deal with an oncoming

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<v Speaker 1>space object. We were specifically looking into things like the

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<v Speaker 1>scenarios of deep impact and armageddon. Would that the answers

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<v Speaker 1>there makes sense, and specifically with armageddon, the answer is heck, no,

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<v Speaker 1>don't blow it up. It makes it worse. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>was Do you remember? Was this the episode where I

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<v Speaker 1>talked about the old movie The Day the Sky Exploded?

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<v Speaker 1>It may very well have been. I honestly did not

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<v Speaker 1>go back and listen to the episodes. So, uh so

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<v Speaker 1>I want to say, yes, listeners can let us know

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<v Speaker 1>if we're wrong. But we wanted to talk a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit more about this today because I recently actually looked

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<v Speaker 1>into an organization that is dedicated to discovering and ultimately

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<v Speaker 1>deflect doing space objects that are on a collision course

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<v Speaker 1>with Earth. I had not heard of them before, which

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<v Speaker 1>is odd. Or if I had, I don't remember it,

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<v Speaker 1>which is odd. You've heard of everything, well, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>which is odd because we specifically researched this topic, and

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<v Speaker 1>our research tends to be fairly exhaustive. Sure, it was

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<v Speaker 1>also a couple of years ago, though, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe maybe they hadn't had something big come out in

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of years or something like that. But yes,

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<v Speaker 1>so part of our Hey, scary stuff could fall on us, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So to refresh you about why is it scary that

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<v Speaker 1>stuff could fall on us? Uh? Collisions happen, right, big

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<v Speaker 1>stuff from space has collided with Earth in the past.

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<v Speaker 1>And it doesn't even have to be really big stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>It can be relatively small stuff, right, because it could

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<v Speaker 1>be moving wicked fast. This is a result of relativity. Yeah, well,

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<v Speaker 1>it's basic physics, even if we don't even have to

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<v Speaker 1>get into full relativity to understand that. Uh, that forces

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<v Speaker 1>mass times acceleration. Right, So if you're if you're moving

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<v Speaker 1>at a really high velocity, which is not acceleration obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>but if you're moving in a really high velocity and

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<v Speaker 1>you have a decent amount of mass, you're going to

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to give a lot of force when you

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<v Speaker 1>hit something. I guess that's correct. It's just regular physics.

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<v Speaker 1>I was thinking about the proposed space weapons that would

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<v Speaker 1>have just small, regular mass objects moving at relativistic speeds

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<v Speaker 1>to create like nuclear explosion, right impacts. Yeah, just to

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<v Speaker 1>shoot a peanut real hard and yeah at times. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's kind of like what we were talking about

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<v Speaker 1>just a second ago, but on steroids. So let's talk

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<v Speaker 1>about some of the collisions. There was one that happened

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<v Speaker 1>around sixty five point five million years ago, sixty six

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<v Speaker 1>million years ago, who's counting really. Uh, that created a

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<v Speaker 1>pretty big crater on the Yucatan Peninsula in Mako, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's believed to be a major contributor to the mass

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<v Speaker 1>extinction that killed off the dinosaurs. Yeah, you'll often hear

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<v Speaker 1>about the asteroid that killed the dinosaurs, and uh, the

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<v Speaker 1>space object that collided there with the Earth whatever was

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<v Speaker 1>probably does seem to have been a major factor contributing

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<v Speaker 1>to the mass extinction of that time period, but it

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<v Speaker 1>probably wasn't the only one either, Right. That's why I

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<v Speaker 1>say contributing factor as opposed to this killed the dinosaurs,

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<v Speaker 1>because as it turns out, there were a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>different things that play that said, the cards were stacked

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<v Speaker 1>against the dinosaurs. I think the last time I read

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<v Speaker 1>about this issue, there was the belief that there was

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of volcanism and volcanism volcanic volcanic activity, climate

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<v Speaker 1>change around the same time. Sure, but you know, a

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<v Speaker 1>multi megaton event doesn't really help. By megaton, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>mega tons of energy, right, Yeah, Yeah, that's that's that's

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<v Speaker 1>not an assistant. Yeah, that didn't That didn't alleviate the

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<v Speaker 1>volcanic activity. So to bring it up to a more

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<v Speaker 1>modern era, you know, let's let's let's skip ahead. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>sixty five and a half million years or so. Who's yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>who's counting up to nineteen o eight. That's when we

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<v Speaker 1>had an event happened that we can actually look at

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<v Speaker 1>as an example of a relatively small space object colliding

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<v Speaker 1>with Earth. I'm talking about the Tunguska event. Now, unless

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<v Speaker 1>you're one of the people who believes this was actually

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<v Speaker 1>Nicola Tesla testing a secret super weapon, it wasn't. The

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<v Speaker 1>Tunguska event was a was a space rock. It was

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<v Speaker 1>a bowl eyed event from space that was not actually

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<v Speaker 1>that big. No, it measured around a hundred twenty feet

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<v Speaker 1>wide or thirty six point six meters, although there I've

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<v Speaker 1>read other measurements that had it as big as forty

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<v Speaker 1>five ms, which you know, that's that's significant, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>still still not huge compared to the Earth, right, the

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<v Speaker 1>Earth is enormous. Something that's just just you know, thirty

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<v Speaker 1>six or thirty seven ms wide, that's nothing. Ten difference

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<v Speaker 1>of ten ms would make a really big difference when

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<v Speaker 1>you consider how fast this thing was going super fast,

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<v Speaker 1>and it hit Uh in Siberia. Uh Uh a relatively

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<v Speaker 1>remote patch where there weren't any people living in that

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<v Speaker 1>immediate area, which is good because if they had been,

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<v Speaker 1>they wouldn't be for much longer. Uh. The the blast

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<v Speaker 1>stripped the trees of all of their limbs and bark

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<v Speaker 1>at ground zero, So the trees remain standing directly above

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<v Speaker 1>where the space rock essentially broke apart when it blasted over.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why I meant sorry, directly below. I have problems

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<v Speaker 1>with prepositions because because they believe it exploded in the atmosphere, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>exactly right, they believe it explodes in the atmosphere above

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<v Speaker 1>this region. So the trees directly below the explosion turned

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<v Speaker 1>into turned into toothpicks. The trees around them. Actually that

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<v Speaker 1>that's not fair. That makes it sound like they splintered

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<v Speaker 1>into toothpicks. They were stripped, they were the trees around

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<v Speaker 1>them were all flattened. They all laid down in a

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<v Speaker 1>radial pattern. So actually it's like they all fell backwards

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<v Speaker 1>in a circle, stretching out quite a bit. And like

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<v Speaker 1>like eighty million trees, million trees over eight hundred square

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<v Speaker 1>miles or seven square kilometers. It's that's an enormous amount

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<v Speaker 1>of space for something that again was relatively small, and

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<v Speaker 1>there were some historical accounts from people who were somewhat

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<v Speaker 1>nearby at the time. Oh yeah, there was a story

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<v Speaker 1>about a guy who was essentially out on his front

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<v Speaker 1>porch when this thing happened and the blast when it

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<v Speaker 1>moved through. Uh. He reported that he felt a sensation

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<v Speaker 1>as if all of his skin had caught on fire. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he was not, He was not. He was not relatively close.

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<v Speaker 1>He was pretty far away. Um. And so we were

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<v Speaker 1>lucky that it happened in such a remote area. There

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<v Speaker 1>were no known deaths as a result of this that

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<v Speaker 1>that have ever been reported from what I can tell,

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<v Speaker 1>So we were lucky. If it had happened over a

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<v Speaker 1>populated area, that story would obviously be very different. And

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<v Speaker 1>clearly a larger or more massive i should say, space

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<v Speaker 1>object would cause even more devastation should collide with Earth.

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<v Speaker 1>And there here's the thing. There are a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>them out there in the Solar system, right. There are

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of of of space objects that are the

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<v Speaker 1>size of the Tunguska Rock or bigger. And that was

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<v Speaker 1>the big concern. That was the thing we were talking

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<v Speaker 1>about in our previous episode, is that we need to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to find them, to track them, and if

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<v Speaker 1>necessary to somehow stop them from colliding with Earth, whether

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<v Speaker 1>that be a method of destroying them, which I think

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<v Speaker 1>we all agreed eventually probably is the least likely approach

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<v Speaker 1>because you're more likely to create a shotgun up. Blowing

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<v Speaker 1>it up is probably not a good option, But usually

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<v Speaker 1>it's how do you move it out of the way.

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<v Speaker 1>The smarter option is to deflect its trajectory right that

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<v Speaker 1>way you're you're pretty sure it's not going to hit you,

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<v Speaker 1>and and also you know, the further out you can

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<v Speaker 1>do it, the less you have to move the space

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<v Speaker 1>object right. So if the space object is if you're

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<v Speaker 1>detected that this thing is going to collide with the Earth,

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<v Speaker 1>but it won't be for another forty years, and you

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<v Speaker 1>can start your plan right now. You can go ahead

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<v Speaker 1>and launch a spacecraft to get there in a certain

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<v Speaker 1>amount of time and deflect it in some manner. And

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<v Speaker 1>we talked about a lot of those in the last episode.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll we'll concentrate on a specific approach the gravity tractor

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<v Speaker 1>in this one um and you don't have to pull

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<v Speaker 1>it very far, so you don't have to use as

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<v Speaker 1>much energy in the actual towing event. It still takes

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of energy to get there, but you don't

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<v Speaker 1>have to do as much when you're actually towing the

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<v Speaker 1>object out of the way. You just have to get

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<v Speaker 1>it off by like a degree and you're good. So

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<v Speaker 1>now it's time to talk about the Little Prince. And

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<v Speaker 1>this is why I chose that particular lyric for the

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<v Speaker 1>because he's the littlest Prince. Um, so we're the little

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<v Speaker 1>Prince is uh, have you read The Little Prince Joe?

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<v Speaker 1>Actually you haven't. Have you read Oh my gosh, guys beautiful.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to go and you have to read it

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<v Speaker 1>and then you have to cry. That kinda is part

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<v Speaker 1>of the deal. Um. That's a very sad, sweet story.

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<v Speaker 1>And generally speaking, I'm gonna just give a big overview.

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<v Speaker 1>This story is told from the point of view of

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<v Speaker 1>a pilot who has crashed in the Sahara Desert and

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<v Speaker 1>he comes across a little boy who says that he's

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<v Speaker 1>from an asteroid. He lives on an asteroid, and he's

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<v Speaker 1>had these various adventures going to different uh asteroids within

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<v Speaker 1>the Solar System and encountering different people before coming to Earth.

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<v Speaker 1>And and through his adventures you you learn about very

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<v Speaker 1>common follies and flaws, things like being so self absorbed

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<v Speaker 1>that you never notice anything outside of yourself. Essentially, it

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<v Speaker 1>was a kind of commentary on the sort of traps

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<v Speaker 1>a fall into, but children tend to be free of

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<v Speaker 1>because they have their childhood innocence. And it's almost like

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<v Speaker 1>a warning tale in many ways. Um In fact, I

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<v Speaker 1>would argue it's as relevant for adults as it is

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<v Speaker 1>for kids. So the pilot kind of guesses that the

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<v Speaker 1>Little Prince's asteroid is one that has specifically been identified

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<v Speaker 1>and has been named B six one two. Now, the

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<v Speaker 1>reason why I give you that whole lead up is

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<v Speaker 1>that now there is a private nonprofit organization called the

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<v Speaker 1>B six one to Foundation, and it is dedicated to

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<v Speaker 1>creating a real solution for possible Earth collisions with space

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<v Speaker 1>rocks or or space objects, comets, asteroids, that kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 1>And and here the thing that they're warning against is

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<v Speaker 1>giant things slamming into Earth at incredible speed. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>they're specifically saying, you know, we can't ignore this. We

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<v Speaker 1>can't fall into the trap that the adults fall in

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<v Speaker 1>in the novella The Little Prince. We cannot be those

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<v Speaker 1>But we have to open our eyes because otherwise, by

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<v Speaker 1>the time we realize there's a problem, it'll be too

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<v Speaker 1>late to do anything about it. So we've got to

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<v Speaker 1>be proactive. And they they hope to avoid catastrophe by

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<v Speaker 1>adopting new ways to detect and deflect space objects on

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<v Speaker 1>collision trajectory. And they got started back in two thousand two.

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<v Speaker 1>Now that was a year after NASA had held its

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<v Speaker 1>first workshop at the NASA Johnson Space Center dedicated to

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<v Speaker 1>the concept of asteroid deflection. So two thousand one, NASA says,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we really have to talk about this. And

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<v Speaker 1>a year later, UH, former astronauts, some astrophysicists, and some

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<v Speaker 1>other people all got together and created this organization B

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<v Speaker 1>six one two Foundation, And they get their money for

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<v Speaker 1>their projects through philanthropy. It's nonprofits, so they depend upon donations.

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<v Speaker 1>They actually say one of the most important UH things

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<v Speaker 1>that they're doing is they're set up a new means

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<v Speaker 1>of funding space work like that they're doing this through philanthropy,

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<v Speaker 1>that they're doing this through UH privatized space to to

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<v Speaker 1>use the the rockets from companies like SpaceX. They said,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we're doing something that that hasn't been done before,

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<v Speaker 1>UH in the space industry, and we're setting a precedent,

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<v Speaker 1>and that could be just as important in several ways

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<v Speaker 1>to the work that we're planning on doing with detecting

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<v Speaker 1>and perhaps deflecting space rocks. So in two thousand and five,

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<v Speaker 1>the Foundation published a paper about creating a gravity tractor,

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<v Speaker 1>and we talked about this a bit in our previous episode.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's give a quick overview. Okay, I think this

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<v Speaker 1>is one of the most interesting proposals on on how

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<v Speaker 1>to deflect body and coming for Earth, and and it

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<v Speaker 1>relies on the fact that this is something people often

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<v Speaker 1>forget about. All objects with mass exert a pull on

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<v Speaker 1>one another. So it's not us that the Earth pulls

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<v Speaker 1>you toward it. You also pull the Earth toward you,

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<v Speaker 1>just not by enough to matter. Yeah, not not by

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<v Speaker 1>very much. And gravity is a relatively weak force. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>it's the weakest of the the four forces. That's why

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<v Speaker 1>we tend to look at things like astrophysics when we

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<v Speaker 1>want to talk about it. But but, but this actually

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<v Speaker 1>comes through in astrophysics and astronomy a lot. Like one

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<v Speaker 1>of the ways we can look for stars very far

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<v Speaker 1>away that have planets orbiting around them is to look

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<v Speaker 1>and see if the planets orbiting the stars are actually

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<v Speaker 1>making the stars wobble a little bit, because as much

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<v Speaker 1>as the stars pull on the planets, the planets also

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<v Speaker 1>pull on the star just a little bit. Yeah. So

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<v Speaker 1>here on Earth, obviously we don't notice that we happen

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<v Speaker 1>to be exerting this gravitational pull on the objects around us.

0:14:49.400 --> 0:14:54.920
<v Speaker 1>The Earth's gravity pretty much, uh, it drowns all that out, right, So, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>for instance, on the table that's in front of us

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<v Speaker 1>here in the studio, we have a little box of

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<v Speaker 1>tiss shoes. I don't feel a pull toward that box

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<v Speaker 1>of tissues. That tissue, that box of tissues, if it

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<v Speaker 1>could feel, would not feel a pull towards me. The

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<v Speaker 1>Earth has pretty much got that downpad. But in space,

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<v Speaker 1>you can have two bodies to two bodies of mass

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<v Speaker 1>having this gravitational effect on one another. And of course

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<v Speaker 1>distance is important, right. The greater the distance, the less

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<v Speaker 1>effect they will have on each other. So you want

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<v Speaker 1>to have things to be close to one another in

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<v Speaker 1>order to affect them through gravity. Yeah, Jupiter has a

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<v Speaker 1>stronger gravitational pull than Earth does. But we're attracted to Earth,

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<v Speaker 1>not Jupiter because it's closer. Yeah. So if uh so,

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<v Speaker 1>when you think about this. You think gravity tractor, it

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<v Speaker 1>makes sense. You you create some form of spacecraft that

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<v Speaker 1>has a great deal of mass to it, or it

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<v Speaker 1>can get mass in some creative way once it's out

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<v Speaker 1>in space, because obviously the more mass something has, the

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<v Speaker 1>more effort we must make to get it out into

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<v Speaker 1>space in the first place. Share, But we launched like

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<v Speaker 1>a like a cottam r a ball and just let

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<v Speaker 1>it roll up a few things into its life, then

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<v Speaker 1>yes it can. Yeah. Or if it were to steal

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<v Speaker 1>part of the incoming object, yes, yeah, which NASA has

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<v Speaker 1>a plan about that and I'll talk about that towards

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<v Speaker 1>the end. Or maybe we just launch an enormous magnet

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<v Speaker 1>and just hope it grabs some of that space junk

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<v Speaker 1>that's orbiting Earth right now, or maybe someone else's communication satellites,

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<v Speaker 1>not ours, but maybe someone else's now. But seriously, seriously

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<v Speaker 1>to have enough mass so that you move the gravity

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<v Speaker 1>tractor close to the near Earth object or INDEO, and

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<v Speaker 1>then uh, I guess the idea is that the gravity

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<v Speaker 1>tractor goes into orbit around this object. Yeah, and then

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<v Speaker 1>that the gravity that it exerts, the gravitational pull it

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<v Speaker 1>exerts on this object is enough to move it out

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<v Speaker 1>of that trajectory that it was in and thus move

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<v Speaker 1>it into a safe zone where it will not end

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<v Speaker 1>up colliding with Earth. So it's kind of like if

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<v Speaker 1>somebody shot a bullet at you, and you could go

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<v Speaker 1>into bullet time, like in the matrix, and shoot out

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<v Speaker 1>a little mag knit to follow the bullet along and

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<v Speaker 1>just throw it off course so that eventually misses you

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<v Speaker 1>by the time it gets to where you are. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and again, the further away the shooter is from you,

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<v Speaker 1>the less you need to move that bullet for that

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<v Speaker 1>to happen. Right, Um, same thing here, Like the further

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<v Speaker 1>away the the object is, the less you need to do,

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<v Speaker 1>the less work you need to do in order to

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<v Speaker 1>to get it into a safe trajectory. Uh. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's a pretty clever idea. It's not something that we've

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<v Speaker 1>really put into practice, but it's something that that there's

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<v Speaker 1>no reason why it shouldn't work. I mean, obviously you'd

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<v Speaker 1>have to come up with a clever way to make

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<v Speaker 1>sure that anything you used to move the space rock

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have another force pushing against it. So, for example,

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<v Speaker 1>you wouldn't want to have thrusters on this spacecraft shooting

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<v Speaker 1>in the same direction that the the rock is in,

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<v Speaker 1>because then you have not just the gravitational force acting

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<v Speaker 1>upon the two objects, but you have the thrust sting

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<v Speaker 1>force that could act upon the space rock, and then

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<v Speaker 1>you're not gonna get the effect that you wanted. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen some interesting things where people actually talked about

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<v Speaker 1>using spacecraft using solar sales, and so they would actually

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<v Speaker 1>use a solar sale to help pull the spacecraft along

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<v Speaker 1>and tow behind it the space rock. Oh yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 1>sort of similar to one idea I remember reading about

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<v Speaker 1>in the past. I don't know if it's still on

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<v Speaker 1>the table, but it would be to essentially put a

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<v Speaker 1>large reflective surface on the sunword facing side of a

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<v Speaker 1>moving object that would allow the solar wind, over a

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<v Speaker 1>long period of time to blow it off course. Yeah. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there are a couple of other proposals that are similar

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<v Speaker 1>to that in various ways. Right. So, anyway, the gravity

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<v Speaker 1>tractor is an important part of the strategy that B

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<v Speaker 1>six one two has come up with, But just as important,

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<v Speaker 1>or perhaps even you could argue more important, is coming

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<v Speaker 1>up with a way to identify and track more of

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<v Speaker 1>these large rocks and other types of space objects that

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<v Speaker 1>are in the Inner Solar System because we are working

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<v Speaker 1>on it, but we're not very far along. Yeah. So,

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<v Speaker 1>according to Ed lu who is a former astronaut and

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<v Speaker 1>he's the CEO of B six one two, there are

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<v Speaker 1>around half a million asteroids in the Inner Solar System

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<v Speaker 1>that are larger than the space rock that hit Tunguska.

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<v Speaker 1>And we've identified a map about one per cent of

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<v Speaker 1>all of them. Well good, yeah, Well that's that's sure.

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<v Speaker 1>That means we need to do like a whole lot

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<v Speaker 1>of homework to get that other. So that's where that's

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<v Speaker 1>what brings us to their Sentinel project H. On June twelve,

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<v Speaker 1>the Foundation announced it would fund the development, construction, and

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<v Speaker 1>deployment of a new infrared space telescope called Sentinel, and

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<v Speaker 1>Sentinel will actually orbit the Sun. It won't orbit Earth.

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<v Speaker 1>It will be put in its own orbit around the

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<v Speaker 1>Sun pretty much in the same orbital path as Venus.

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<v Speaker 1>So they're gonna shoot it out into space once it's done, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>and it will get a little gravity assist slingshot from

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<v Speaker 1>Venus to put it into its final orbit around the Sun,

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<v Speaker 1>and then it will position itself so that it's rear

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<v Speaker 1>end is always facing the sun, and that its telescope

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<v Speaker 1>side is always facing out. It's not blinded by the sun,

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<v Speaker 1>not blinded by not blinded by the light, wrapped up

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<v Speaker 1>like a deuce, another runner in the night. So yes, exactly,

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<v Speaker 1>So it's pointing out into space, and the idea being

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<v Speaker 1>that it could actually map out the entire night sky

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<v Speaker 1>in this way uh multiple times, because you need to

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<v Speaker 1>do it just to identify what stuff out there are

0:20:46.240 --> 0:20:48.040
<v Speaker 1>space rocks, but you also need to do it multiple

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<v Speaker 1>times in order to figure out where are those going,

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<v Speaker 1>what are their trajectories, where are they moving in comparison

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<v Speaker 1>to everything else. So what is the idea about why

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<v Speaker 1>will this be better at looking for small near Earth

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<v Speaker 1>objects than whatever kind of telescopes we currently have looking

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<v Speaker 1>for them. Well, we don't have the problem of atmospheric

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<v Speaker 1>UH distortion. Obviously, when you have a telescope orbiting the Earth,

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<v Speaker 1>there are going to be times where it cannot look

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<v Speaker 1>out outward into the inner Solar system. It's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be looking towards the center of the Solar system, which

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<v Speaker 1>means there's going to be downtime, right Like, there will

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<v Speaker 1>be times that you would not be able to effectively

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<v Speaker 1>get information either because the Earth is in the way,

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<v Speaker 1>the Moon is in the way, or the Sun is

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<v Speaker 1>in the way. Having it on this other orbital path

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<v Speaker 1>further into the Solar system gives the telescope kind of

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<v Speaker 1>a wide angle view of what's going on in our

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<v Speaker 1>solar system, and it can detect teeny tiny objects within

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<v Speaker 1>its field, like a single pixel might represent a space object.

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<v Speaker 1>But because it's using this infrared telescope technology, it has

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<v Speaker 1>to do is pick up that reflection to figure out,

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<v Speaker 1>well that's one UM. So they're actually partnering this. This

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<v Speaker 1>is really happening. This isn't just a plan, this is

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<v Speaker 1>actually going forward. There's a company Ball Aerospace in Boulder, Colorado.

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<v Speaker 1>They're designing and building the actual telescope, and they're using

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<v Speaker 1>the same team of experts that worked on stuff like

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<v Speaker 1>the Kepler space telescope. So the projected date of completion

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<v Speaker 1>is sometime around or eighteen, and they expect to use

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<v Speaker 1>a space X Falcon nine rocket to launch the telescope

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<v Speaker 1>into space, so again relying on private space industry to

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<v Speaker 1>get there. Um Now, every twenty six days, the sentinel

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<v Speaker 1>will complete four pairs of observations of the night sky,

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<v Speaker 1>and by kind of making a flipbook almost of these

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<v Speaker 1>different pictures, researchers can see where these objects, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>what are their trajectories, what are their orbits? Are there

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<v Speaker 1>any that could potentially become into a collision course with Earth?

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<v Speaker 1>And according to the folks over at the Foundation, they'll

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<v Speaker 1>be able to project pathways as far out as a

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<v Speaker 1>hundred years. So that's that's great because if you can

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<v Speaker 1>really again I mean, we keep stressing it. If you

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<v Speaker 1>detected early, it gives you way more options on how

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<v Speaker 1>you deal with it and you don't have to use

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<v Speaker 1>as much uh energy to actually move it out of

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<v Speaker 1>the way in order to get safe again. Um, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess my fear, though maybe this is just being cynical,

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<v Speaker 1>is that if we did know enough ahead of time,

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<v Speaker 1>we would be locked into arguments about who's going to

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<v Speaker 1>pay for the gravity tractor and nobody would I would

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<v Speaker 1>think that you would get I would like to think

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<v Speaker 1>that that would not happen. If it does happen, I

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<v Speaker 1>would like to think I would have an opportunity to

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<v Speaker 1>go to Mars. Let's let's just kickstart that. Come on,

0:23:43.160 --> 0:23:45.080
<v Speaker 1>we can we can put on Let's put on indie

0:23:45.080 --> 0:23:47.119
<v Speaker 1>go go that way, we don't make our goal, we

0:23:47.200 --> 0:23:50.160
<v Speaker 1>still get to keep some of the money. Um so,

0:23:50.160 --> 0:23:52.159
<v Speaker 1>so that we can go to Mars right exactly, like

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<v Speaker 1>what We'll just set the goal insanely high and that way,

0:23:56.119 --> 0:23:59.080
<v Speaker 1>even if we just get halfway there, we're good. Uh So,

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<v Speaker 1>this this telescope is gonna send data back through NASA's

0:24:03.440 --> 0:24:07.439
<v Speaker 1>Deep Space network to get back here to Earth. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's kind of cool too. And they're gonna limit that

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<v Speaker 1>amount of data obviously, Like if they just kept sending

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<v Speaker 1>full pictures of the entire night sky over and over,

0:24:16.080 --> 0:24:18.399
<v Speaker 1>that's a lot of information. It would be real pretty,

0:24:18.480 --> 0:24:21.560
<v Speaker 1>but yeah, not not useful necessarily. And and this is

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<v Speaker 1>depart that right, Yeah. Yeah, it's so much a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of computer power and energy wasted there. And this is

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<v Speaker 1>a part that I thought was really cool. The computer

0:24:31.760 --> 0:24:34.200
<v Speaker 1>is going to know, is it's going to be able

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<v Speaker 1>to identify moving objects by by seeing where they have

0:24:37.359 --> 0:24:40.280
<v Speaker 1>moved from one photo to another, and only send back

0:24:40.280 --> 0:24:42.439
<v Speaker 1>the photos of the ones that are moving, Like if

0:24:42.480 --> 0:24:46.280
<v Speaker 1>nothing in the frame is moving, then the satellite just

0:24:46.560 --> 0:24:48.520
<v Speaker 1>tosses it out. It makes me think of the old

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<v Speaker 1>days of film cameras where you would go and get

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<v Speaker 1>your film developed, and you'd sit there, you would actually

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<v Speaker 1>open up your your pictures at the place where they

0:24:57.520 --> 0:24:59.480
<v Speaker 1>were developed and go through them to see like, oh,

0:24:59.520 --> 0:25:01.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm not we need to keep this one like it's

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<v Speaker 1>only got it's only got a strand of hair in it.

0:25:04.640 --> 0:25:07.800
<v Speaker 1>You can't even tell who belongs to blurry blurry blurry

0:25:07.960 --> 0:25:10.280
<v Speaker 1>from print blurry. Yeah. So this would be the same

0:25:10.320 --> 0:25:13.800
<v Speaker 1>sort of thing, except essentially saying, look at this sector

0:25:13.840 --> 0:25:17.520
<v Speaker 1>that was photographed at this time, are there any space

0:25:17.640 --> 0:25:21.840
<v Speaker 1>rocks essentially out there? No, don't bother sending that back then,

0:25:21.920 --> 0:25:24.720
<v Speaker 1>it's not gonna do any good. So I thought that

0:25:24.760 --> 0:25:27.919
<v Speaker 1>was a very clever way of trying to increase the

0:25:27.960 --> 0:25:32.639
<v Speaker 1>efficiency of the system. And uh, this should really give

0:25:32.720 --> 0:25:36.160
<v Speaker 1>us a good idea of any potential threats that we face.

0:25:36.320 --> 0:25:40.280
<v Speaker 1>So that would then prompt us into the discussion of

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<v Speaker 1>all right, what do we do about? Do we do

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<v Speaker 1>the gravity tractor approach, which I'm seeing more and more

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<v Speaker 1>um support for in actual groups that are planning on

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<v Speaker 1>doing these things. I see alternatives to the gravity tractor

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<v Speaker 1>more from like think tanks that don't directly actually do

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<v Speaker 1>still yeah, they think really hard, but other than that,

0:26:04.560 --> 0:26:09.960
<v Speaker 1>they don't really do anything really hard about nuclear weapons. Yeah, right, right,

0:26:10.040 --> 0:26:12.600
<v Speaker 1>and Bruce and Bruce willis going up there and and

0:26:12.600 --> 0:26:15.199
<v Speaker 1>and Aerosmith and all the sudden, Okay, well we clone

0:26:15.240 --> 0:26:18.000
<v Speaker 1>Bruce Willis. This is the first step. No, no, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So so right now we've got about one percent of

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<v Speaker 1>the sky covered, right, what are they hoping to get

0:26:23.920 --> 0:26:26.119
<v Speaker 1>up to with this plan? So they're hoping to boost

0:26:26.160 --> 0:26:29.480
<v Speaker 1>that up and map out nine percent of the near

0:26:29.480 --> 0:26:32.520
<v Speaker 1>Earth objects that measure at least a hundred forty in

0:26:32.560 --> 0:26:37.280
<v Speaker 1>size are greater uh, and a quote large fraction. In

0:26:37.320 --> 0:26:40.600
<v Speaker 1>other parts of their their literature, they say fifty percent

0:26:40.760 --> 0:26:42.879
<v Speaker 1>of asteroids that are bigger than the one that struck

0:26:42.920 --> 0:26:46.399
<v Speaker 1>Tunguska um. And this is where I said there was

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<v Speaker 1>some differentiation between the the figure I've seen in some

0:26:51.040 --> 0:26:53.600
<v Speaker 1>reports about the Tugnuska event and B six one two.

0:26:53.640 --> 0:26:57.439
<v Speaker 1>They say that means around forty five, which is larger

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<v Speaker 1>than what I had seen elsewhere, which thirty six points six. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>This will actually happen over the course of six and

0:27:03.359 --> 0:27:06.520
<v Speaker 1>a half years. I've I've heard that there's a possibility

0:27:06.600 --> 0:27:10.920
<v Speaker 1>the telescope could continue to work for another three and

0:27:10.960 --> 0:27:13.480
<v Speaker 1>a half years for a full ten year lifespan, but

0:27:13.560 --> 0:27:16.520
<v Speaker 1>six and a half is what they have planned. Um.

0:27:16.640 --> 0:27:19.560
<v Speaker 1>And so the other thing is that we might be

0:27:19.600 --> 0:27:23.080
<v Speaker 1>able to use this data for stuff besides just deflecting

0:27:23.200 --> 0:27:26.479
<v Speaker 1>incoming dangerous space objects. We might be able to use

0:27:26.520 --> 0:27:33.240
<v Speaker 1>it to identify potential good candidates for asteroid mining. We've

0:27:33.280 --> 0:27:36.480
<v Speaker 1>talked about that in previous episodes. Two. So that could

0:27:36.480 --> 0:27:38.760
<v Speaker 1>be really cool. Now that's not the primary focus of

0:27:38.800 --> 0:27:41.280
<v Speaker 1>B six one two. That would just be a happy

0:27:41.800 --> 0:27:45.919
<v Speaker 1>coincidence or a happy byproduct of this process. Uh. And

0:27:46.160 --> 0:27:48.480
<v Speaker 1>B six one two is not the only one, you know,

0:27:48.600 --> 0:27:51.000
<v Speaker 1>not the only organization out there thinking about this. Obviously,

0:27:51.080 --> 0:27:53.479
<v Speaker 1>NASA has been thinking about two. They were the ones

0:27:53.520 --> 0:27:55.359
<v Speaker 1>who held the workshop back in two thousand one that

0:27:55.440 --> 0:27:58.320
<v Speaker 1>kind of prompted the creation of B six one two

0:27:58.320 --> 0:28:00.720
<v Speaker 1>in the first place. Yeah, and I think we talked

0:28:00.720 --> 0:28:05.080
<v Speaker 1>a little bit about their organization in that episode, the

0:28:05.119 --> 0:28:10.240
<v Speaker 1>Near Earth Observation Program. Yeah, so that's specifically dedicated to

0:28:10.240 --> 0:28:12.919
<v Speaker 1>looking at near Earth objects, as the name would imply.

0:28:13.680 --> 0:28:18.119
<v Speaker 1>And Uh, they initiated something called the Asteroid Grand Challenge, which,

0:28:18.160 --> 0:28:21.800
<v Speaker 1>and this is a quote from NASA, will use multidisciplinary

0:28:21.840 --> 0:28:25.600
<v Speaker 1>collaborations in a variety of partnerships with other government agencies,

0:28:25.640 --> 0:28:31.800
<v Speaker 1>international partners, industry, academia, and citizens scientists to direct, track, characterize,

0:28:32.000 --> 0:28:36.280
<v Speaker 1>and create mitigation strategies for potentially hazardous asteroids. That sounds

0:28:36.320 --> 0:28:39.400
<v Speaker 1>like a really boring way to say planetary defense. Yeah,

0:28:39.880 --> 0:28:43.240
<v Speaker 1>and it's actually under their planetary defense. Uh like that,

0:28:43.240 --> 0:28:45.960
<v Speaker 1>that's the u r L is the planetary defense u

0:28:46.040 --> 0:28:49.120
<v Speaker 1>r L. Uh. And the challenge also has an actual

0:28:49.160 --> 0:28:51.280
<v Speaker 1>contest that there. It's called a challenge for a reason.

0:28:51.280 --> 0:28:54.280
<v Speaker 1>There's a contest involved. So NASA partnered with a crowdsource

0:28:54.320 --> 0:28:57.600
<v Speaker 1>studio called Tongle to create this. And there are twenty

0:28:57.640 --> 0:29:00.640
<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars worth of prizes. I don't know how they

0:29:00.640 --> 0:29:02.600
<v Speaker 1>break down, Like, I don't know if there's a first price,

0:29:02.680 --> 0:29:04.960
<v Speaker 1>second prize or anything like that, but there's twenty dollars

0:29:05.000 --> 0:29:08.520
<v Speaker 1>worth of prizes. And Uh. In order to get your

0:29:08.520 --> 0:29:10.920
<v Speaker 1>hands on that, filthy luker, what you need to do

0:29:11.560 --> 0:29:15.880
<v Speaker 1>is create a really awesome video that can quote engage

0:29:15.920 --> 0:29:18.800
<v Speaker 1>and excite the public about getting involved in NASA's mission

0:29:18.840 --> 0:29:23.480
<v Speaker 1>to find and characterize asteroids. We can do that, I know, Joe,

0:29:23.760 --> 0:29:26.080
<v Speaker 1>we can do that. It's like we have a whole

0:29:26.120 --> 0:29:31.360
<v Speaker 1>studio set up, literally a studio fifteen feet from where

0:29:31.400 --> 0:29:33.600
<v Speaker 1>we're sitting, where we can do that. Maybe we should

0:29:33.600 --> 0:29:36.760
<v Speaker 1>try to get in on that. I was, That's what

0:29:36.800 --> 0:29:40.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. Uh So, NASA is also working on an

0:29:40.680 --> 0:29:44.840
<v Speaker 1>Asteroid redirect Mission or arm a r M, in which

0:29:44.880 --> 0:29:47.680
<v Speaker 1>a robot will deflect an asteroid from's trajectory and place

0:29:47.760 --> 0:29:50.239
<v Speaker 1>it in a stable orbit around the Moon. I think

0:29:50.280 --> 0:29:52.920
<v Speaker 1>we've talked about this before. Yeah, and this was going

0:29:52.960 --> 0:29:55.240
<v Speaker 1>back to what you had mentioned earlier, Joe, the idea

0:29:55.280 --> 0:30:00.160
<v Speaker 1>of stealing something from the target object in order to

0:30:00.360 --> 0:30:05.080
<v Speaker 1>create greater mass and thus affected more. This is what

0:30:05.120 --> 0:30:08.200
<v Speaker 1>the robot would do. It would end up piloting to

0:30:08.920 --> 0:30:13.880
<v Speaker 1>some near Earth object, capturing a multi ton boulder from

0:30:13.920 --> 0:30:16.600
<v Speaker 1>said object, thus increasing the space craft or the robot,

0:30:16.640 --> 0:30:20.280
<v Speaker 1>I guess the robots mass, and then using that mass

0:30:20.320 --> 0:30:23.600
<v Speaker 1>as a gravity tractor to tow it over into a

0:30:23.680 --> 0:30:26.480
<v Speaker 1>lunar orbit. And then the reason we wanted in a

0:30:26.520 --> 0:30:29.880
<v Speaker 1>lunar orbit is eventually NASA would want to send astronauts

0:30:29.960 --> 0:30:33.240
<v Speaker 1>up there to explore it, take samples, bring it back

0:30:33.240 --> 0:30:36.240
<v Speaker 1>to Earth. The samples, not the asteroid that would remain

0:30:36.280 --> 0:30:38.920
<v Speaker 1>in lunar orbit. Yeah, that would have that would evade

0:30:38.920 --> 0:30:42.000
<v Speaker 1>the purpose of making things not hit. Like, hey, guys,

0:30:42.040 --> 0:30:46.160
<v Speaker 1>look look what following me home? Can we keep it? Uh? No, man, No,

0:30:46.320 --> 0:30:48.120
<v Speaker 1>that would be kind of cool if the moon had

0:30:48.160 --> 0:30:52.120
<v Speaker 1>a moon. Yeah, yeah, for the moon, and we could

0:30:52.120 --> 0:30:54.600
<v Speaker 1>watch it. We could watch it transit the Moon at night,

0:30:56.160 --> 0:30:58.680
<v Speaker 1>and then like just a you know, a few millennia later,

0:30:58.880 --> 0:31:02.120
<v Speaker 1>the moon in vinced pink it again. So at any rate,

0:31:02.200 --> 0:31:05.680
<v Speaker 1>um uh. The idea being that we'd send astronauts up

0:31:05.720 --> 0:31:07.560
<v Speaker 1>there somewhere in the twenty thirties. I mean, this is

0:31:07.600 --> 0:31:10.640
<v Speaker 1>a very aggressive plan NASA has, and it's part of,

0:31:10.640 --> 0:31:15.640
<v Speaker 1>of course, their long term plan to get humans to Mars.

0:31:16.560 --> 0:31:19.480
<v Speaker 1>The idea being that the technologies and processes we would

0:31:19.480 --> 0:31:22.000
<v Speaker 1>have to develop in order to make this happen in

0:31:22.120 --> 0:31:24.800
<v Speaker 1>order to be able to capture an asteroid and to

0:31:24.920 --> 0:31:28.320
<v Speaker 1>move it into an orbit, and to visit it and

0:31:28.320 --> 0:31:32.160
<v Speaker 1>and essentially do a light mining project and bring stuff back,

0:31:32.520 --> 0:31:35.480
<v Speaker 1>all of that would require us to develop technologies that

0:31:35.560 --> 0:31:39.480
<v Speaker 1>we could then use for a trip to Mars. So

0:31:39.600 --> 0:31:43.000
<v Speaker 1>almost everything we hear about NASA doing these days ends

0:31:43.080 --> 0:31:46.880
<v Speaker 1>up at least in some way contributing to a future Martian,

0:31:47.680 --> 0:31:52.479
<v Speaker 1>you know, exploration mission. Yeah, it would also require us

0:31:52.520 --> 0:31:54.840
<v Speaker 1>to develop all the other technologies that you find in

0:31:54.920 --> 0:31:57.640
<v Speaker 1>total recall. Yeah, we have to have all of those.

0:31:58.080 --> 0:31:59.640
<v Speaker 1>We have to have the have to have the robotic

0:31:59.640 --> 0:32:02.840
<v Speaker 1>cabs that actually have a robot sitting in the driver's seat. Yeah,

0:32:02.960 --> 0:32:06.400
<v Speaker 1>the chit chats. Yeah, because why would you ever want

0:32:06.440 --> 0:32:09.320
<v Speaker 1>to have a driver less car that actually allows you

0:32:09.400 --> 0:32:12.560
<v Speaker 1>to sit in any seat in the vehicle. You have

0:32:12.640 --> 0:32:15.760
<v Speaker 1>to have one seat occupied by a needless machine. I

0:32:15.800 --> 0:32:20.520
<v Speaker 1>think the fake talking lady head that Arnold Schwarzenegger wears

0:32:20.520 --> 0:32:24.000
<v Speaker 1>over his real head says two weeks. Yeah, that's pretty

0:32:24.000 --> 0:32:26.760
<v Speaker 1>good one and then just splits apart. Or what about

0:32:26.880 --> 0:32:33.880
<v Speaker 1>uh sinus cavity probes? Yeah, lots of lots of years,

0:32:33.920 --> 0:32:38.320
<v Speaker 1>actually know, just about two weeks. Well. The interesting thing

0:32:38.360 --> 0:32:41.320
<v Speaker 1>again is that NASA is hoping to do this sort

0:32:41.320 --> 0:32:43.640
<v Speaker 1>of mission. Like in the twenty twenties, they hope to

0:32:44.320 --> 0:32:47.240
<v Speaker 1>use a gravity tractor to capture an asteroid. In the

0:32:47.280 --> 0:32:50.400
<v Speaker 1>twenty thirties, they hope to send astronauts to that asteroid.

0:32:50.480 --> 0:32:55.000
<v Speaker 1>So it's a pretty aggressive schedule. I'm I am maybe

0:32:55.040 --> 0:32:58.640
<v Speaker 1>skepticals the wrong word. I'm not entirely certain that they're

0:32:58.680 --> 0:33:01.040
<v Speaker 1>going to be able to make at based upon where

0:33:01.080 --> 0:33:04.239
<v Speaker 1>we are today, But there's it could happen. It just

0:33:04.400 --> 0:33:09.880
<v Speaker 1>will require a fairly aggressive investment in space exploration for

0:33:09.920 --> 0:33:12.480
<v Speaker 1>that to work out, I think. But it would be

0:33:12.520 --> 0:33:15.080
<v Speaker 1>really cool. And of course if NASA is able to

0:33:15.240 --> 0:33:19.000
<v Speaker 1>demonstrate that it can move an asteroid in that manner,

0:33:19.480 --> 0:33:22.680
<v Speaker 1>then that is a big win when it comes to,

0:33:23.280 --> 0:33:26.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, figuring out how to deflect incoming space objects.

0:33:26.920 --> 0:33:30.320
<v Speaker 1>So really cool. Glad we were able to look into this. Again,

0:33:31.080 --> 0:33:32.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm glad I was able to educate you about The

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0:33:39.320 --> 0:33:42.720
<v Speaker 1>the film version has been delayed makes me want to

0:33:42.760 --> 0:33:44.680
<v Speaker 1>take a quick trip up to Canada to see it.

0:33:45.240 --> 0:33:47.120
<v Speaker 1>But it is coming out. So there's also a film

0:33:47.200 --> 0:33:48.920
<v Speaker 1>version of The Little Prints coming out, So if you

0:33:49.000 --> 0:33:52.880
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