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Speaker 2: Happy President's Day. Steve Gotson Company always love to have

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Speaker 2: fun with audio. We've got some audio that we need

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Speaker 2: to break down. We need to break down because there's

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Speaker 2: just a lot of levels, a lot of layers to it,

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Speaker 2: and it happened over all Star Game weekend. There's also

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Speaker 2: some audio that you may have seen over the last

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Speaker 2: twenty four hours of an outraged Doug Gottlieb, the head

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Speaker 2: coach of the Green Bay Phoenix. Doug iheartfamily member, and

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Speaker 2: as many people know, had this time slot for eight

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Speaker 2: Phoenix here. Doug's gonna join us in about twenty five

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Speaker 2: minutes or so to talk about what actually happened last

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Speaker 2: night in their loss to Milwaukee. Doug's postgame reaction that

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Speaker 2: has gone viral, there are memes, there are animated videos

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Speaker 2: of Doug turning into the Incredible Hulk during his press

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Speaker 2: conference last night. But Doug Gottliebel joined us in about

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty five minutes or so to explain what actually

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Speaker 2: happened in their loss last night to Milwaukee and Doug's reaction.

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Speaker 2: We'll see if he regrets any event, there was anything

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Speaker 2: that he wished he would have said, anything he wants

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Speaker 2: But a game that would big rivalry game for Green

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Speaker 2: in the standings for the Horizon League and how that

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Speaker 2: conference tournament sets up. So you can understand some of

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Speaker 2: the frustration. But it was one of the bigger stories

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Speaker 2: that we had on Daytona five hundred All Star Game,

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Speaker 2: Sunday Olympic and that happening in college basketball.

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Speaker 3: It was a busy day. Everything overlapping was unfortunate. Daytona

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Speaker 3: was up head to head with the with the All

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Speaker 3: Star Game, but we set it to Leed ste Goats

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Speaker 3: and company. And I will give credit words due. I'm

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Speaker 3: somebody who is critical of the NBA. I'm somebody who

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Speaker 3: hosts on Saturday nights and was very critical of All

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Speaker 3: Star Saturday, thought we got a good overall product on

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Speaker 3: the court on Saturday or on Sunday. Excuse me, but

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Speaker 3: I know you maybe want to hear about what happened

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Speaker 2: Court, right, I'll tell you. There was something that happened

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Speaker 2: during a press conference with Lebron James that a lot

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Speaker 2: of people are taking. Yeah, yeah, you A lot of

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Speaker 2: people are taking. Yeah, even that kid. They are taking

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Speaker 2: in a variety of different ways. This was the exchange

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Speaker 2: that Lebron had with a reporter in advance of the

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Speaker 2: All Star Game at the Intuit Dome, home of the

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Speaker 4: Getting opportunity to have an All Star Game in Los Angeles,

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Speaker 4: what does that mean for you at this point in

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Speaker 4: Weary are also playing day in and day out?

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Speaker 2: Uh?

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Speaker 5: Nothing, because this is not our building, nothing at all.

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Speaker 5: I'm a I'm this is a road game.

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Speaker 2: Okay. My first My first reaction was, this reporter doesn't

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Speaker 2: realize that Lebron doesn't play his games in this arena

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Speaker 2: and so so that was my initial response to it,

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Speaker 2: then that reporter should never be credentialed again on anything

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Speaker 2: there is. There is no reason to if he was

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Speaker 2: just saying city of Los Angeles, that's I don't think

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Speaker 2: ultimately the question. It is a complete softball to Lebron James,

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Speaker 3: Let me ask you and I'm not trying to cast

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Speaker 3: is that how to say? Cast dispersions on the reporter?

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Speaker 3: What was the goal? What was the end game? Perfect

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Speaker 3: answer from Lebron that he loves LA like was it?

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Speaker 3: Does it have something to do with him being a

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Speaker 7: Yes, what was the Okay, God, that's who I think

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Speaker 2: For that. I think this is also there's something that

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Speaker 2: I don't want to talk to inside shop. But there

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Speaker 2: the park that you could then show on your local

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Speaker 2: That's what I thought that the question was, because I

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Speaker 2: don't think that when that question is asked, I don't

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Speaker 7: Of course not well, he only.

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Speaker 3: Should, but yeah, for the audience, that's you know, we

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Speaker 3: know the audience, can you know, change quickly?

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Speaker 7: I would Yeah, I think it's best to play this.

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Speaker 4: Son again, getting the opportunity to have an ULCER game

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Speaker 4: in Los Angeles? What does that mean for you at

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Speaker 5: Uh, nothing, because this is not our building, nothing at all.

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Speaker 5: I'm a I'm this is a road.

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Speaker 3: Game, and really quickly for people that you know, listen,

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Speaker 3: I am far from a Lebron apologist. But for people

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Speaker 3: who don't understand, this would essentially be the equivalent of

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Speaker 3: the All Star Game being in Brooklyn and somebody asking

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Speaker 3: Jalen Brunson, what does it mean to have the All

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Speaker 3: It's like, it is actually a very just dumb question,

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Speaker 3: unless to your point, you know, he thinks he's given

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Speaker 3: may position it in a way where how I originally

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Speaker 3: that Fox Sports Radio applied for three NBA All Star

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Speaker 3: heard received a ton of credentials for this game, so

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Speaker 3: there could be another opportunity again the influencing game we had.

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Speaker 3: We applied for three because it's in our backyard and

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Speaker 7: Well, I think that to me, if we're really trying

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Speaker 2: Bottom of this, I am I am. I want to

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Speaker 3: I think all you got to do instead of, you know,

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Speaker 3: that's it was probably some TikTok dude with eight hundred

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Speaker 3: it's my moment in time to talk about talk to Lebron,

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Speaker 3: and then I get I get to say that I

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Speaker 3: what I am going to assume, without having any idea

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Speaker 2: Now, I'm curious on Jason Stewart's thoughts Isaac lohingcron respected

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Speaker 2: Do you have any issues with this question.

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Speaker 9: After listening to it again? I honestly didn't because I

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Speaker 9: think the wording was more Los Angeles than Arena centered. However,

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Speaker 9: the grander point, I completely agree with it, and I've

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Speaker 9: felt that way for some some time. I think it's

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Speaker 9: fascinating slash disappointing to see the difference between influencer media

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Speaker 2: And the one defense of the reporter is he did

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Speaker 2: give the opportunity for Lebron to take it wherever Lebron

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Speaker 2: and Lebron took it where he wanted to take it.

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Speaker 2: There is that angle to it where there are times

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Speaker 2: corner an answer out of someone, they'll give him two options,

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Speaker 2: and then a lot of times you'll hear a little

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Speaker 2: to say, it doesn't mean as much to me to

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Speaker 2: be in Los Angeles. This is also the third All

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Speaker 2: just being in LA from that aspect. Now, in twenty

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Speaker 2: wasn't him being a Laker at the time. But he

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Speaker 2: talk about. Jason Stewart, when you heard this audio, what

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Speaker 10: It's kind of what you're going I went into about

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Speaker 10: how Lebron knew the question and he could have taken

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Speaker 10: it however whatever path he wanted, and he chose in

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Speaker 10: and I guess it was some kind of a dig

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Speaker 10: take into context and really take this seriously. Lebron has

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Speaker 10: never been about the approval from Los Angeles. He's never

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Speaker 10: made an attempt to get approval from Los Angeles. This

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Speaker 10: has never been a Laker's Lebron marriage. It's been a

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Speaker 10: last stop of Lebron to do whatever Lebron wants to

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Speaker 10: do with his brand. So that's kind of how I

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Speaker 10: took this, not only dismissing the question, making fun of

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Speaker 10: ever take a chance to show how much he myers

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Speaker 10: a city that he's never given any kind of effort

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Speaker 10: and to create in a relationship with.

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Speaker 2: I think that's very fair, And I also think that

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Speaker 2: he took the opportunity on his way out, which sure

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Speaker 2: seems like he is out of Los Angeles after the season.

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Speaker 2: That's like a almost a parting shot in a way,

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Speaker 3: Do you do you think that he shouldn't have answered

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Speaker 3: given the Well, you know, Los Angeles has been great

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Speaker 3: to me and this isn't technically my arena, but anytime,

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Speaker 3: because I actually almost it's not that I even have

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Speaker 3: that's the correct answer. Like, like I said, you know,

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Speaker 2: Victor WEBNYAA. The All Star Game is on Earth. How

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Speaker 2: Here it comes in. Listen to the media laugh because

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Speaker 2: Just play it again.

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Speaker 4: Getting opportunity to have an Ulcar game in Los Angeles?

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Speaker 2: Was completely my fault, I take. I should have had

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Speaker 2: Crazy weekend first weekend post football season, So you had

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Speaker 13: All we ask is that there's a fair game.

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Speaker 6: How the monsters you are on the court, have they

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Speaker 6: They really good ones say hey, that's it, or they

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Speaker 6: the honest truth Dan is I've been working all year

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Speaker 6: actually kind of control of that stuff. They come by like, hey,

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Speaker 6: what happened, blah blah blah blah. All right, we got you.

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Speaker 6: You know, they kind of talk you down off a

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Speaker 6: ledge that didn't happen. So but yeah, I did get

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Speaker 6: an explanation. If I could do it again, I wouldn't

439
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Speaker 6: have brought up any of the other stuff. You know,

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Speaker 6: it's not worth it. I disagree with some of the calls,

441
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Speaker 6: not the reason we lost the game. We got to

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Speaker 6: be better. We had an eight point lead with under

443
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Speaker 6: eight to go, and we got to find a way

444
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Speaker 6: to close, take better shots. I got to make better

445
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Speaker 6: decisions as far as who's in the game, what we're running,

446
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Speaker 6: what we're doing, and we got to clean it up.

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Speaker 6: And yeah, I mean, I strongly disagree with a couple

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Speaker 6: of calls, but you know, what are you gonna do? Like,

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Speaker 6: there's literally nothing you can do other than complain to

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Speaker 6: the complain to the supervisor officials at the league, and

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Speaker 6: then they go back and review and they tell you

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Speaker 6: if you're right or so if you're wrong.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Doug, I was going to ask you, first of all,

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Speaker 3: great to speak with you, man, and I was going

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Speaker 3: to ask you. You know you hear coaches all the time.

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Speaker 3: Brad Underwood said it in one of his press conferences

457
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Speaker 3: last week about I'm sending I'm sending a tape.

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Speaker 7: To the league office.

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Speaker 3: Like basically the insinuation being like, I'm gonna send two

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Speaker 3: or three plays to the league to let them know

461
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Speaker 3: that they missed this call. I know it's a little

462
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Speaker 3: inside baseball, but how does that process actually work? Because

463
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Speaker 3: you probably hear it about a dozen times a year

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Speaker 3: throughout college basketball from various coaches.

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Speaker 6: It's a great question. Okay, So here's how it works.

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Speaker 6: After every game they send out to your director of Bestwops.

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Speaker 6: They send out like a grading scale for every all

468
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Speaker 6: the refs, and then you, if you greatly disagree with

469
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Speaker 6: some calls, whatever, you can send them into this queue

470
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Speaker 6: and then they come, they review the queue, and they

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Speaker 6: send back to you how the guy graded out. So

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Speaker 6: the idea of I'm sending it in, you can send

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Speaker 6: it in every time. And by the way, your Dovo

474
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Speaker 6: sends them in every time. And the reason I feel

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Speaker 6: like I have a good relationship with the league is

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Speaker 6: I don't call them after every game. I'm just not

477
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Speaker 6: that guy. You know. We've had other opportunities at times

478
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Speaker 6: dur in the year where we felt like, you know,

479
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Speaker 6: not the greatest officiating in the world, whatever. But you know,

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Speaker 6: I'm not going to be to complain about it because

481
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Speaker 6: the more you complain about it, become a whiner, and officials,

482
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Speaker 6: I feel like tune you out. But I was. I

483
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Speaker 6: was super passionate. And that's a gigantic game for us.

484
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Speaker 6: We just played the best game of my early coaching

485
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Speaker 6: career against Fort Wayne on Thursday. You know, at home,

486
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Speaker 6: we thumped them. We played great defense. Milwaukee's a little wounded.

487
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Speaker 6: We beat them at home, you know, the chance to

488
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Speaker 6: sweep them after they beat us twice last year, and

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Speaker 6: and and all the other things. It's a big and

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Speaker 6: state rivalry, and I think, you know, in hindsight, with

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Speaker 6: some growth, I'll take a breath and just avoid it

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Speaker 6: in the future. But I look, I'm fired up for

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Speaker 6: my players and I want them to feel like that

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Speaker 6: they have a coach that's willing to fight for them,

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Speaker 6: and I was I was really disappointed in you know,

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Speaker 6: that one call. I just think and you know, it

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Speaker 6: puts us in a bad spot where now all of

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Speaker 6: a sudden, we got two guys with four fouls that

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Speaker 6: are starters. And it does happen to everybody. I get it,

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Speaker 6: And it's you know, what's the legitimacy of every different call?

501
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Speaker 6: And this is the same at both ends. That's really

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Speaker 6: all you can hope for. Like, I don't think if

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Speaker 6: anybody thinks I thought there's anything nefarious at work, that's

504
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Speaker 6: not the case. I just all you can, all you

505
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Speaker 6: can do with your guys is say, hey, there, you

506
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Speaker 6: have to feel the game. Understand, they call it tight,

507
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:21,960
Speaker 6: they call it lose. Usually the first five minutes of

508
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Speaker 6: each half they call it super tight. Then either loosen

509
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Speaker 6: up or they don't. You got to kind of figure

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Speaker 6: that out. You're going to work with your team on it.

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Speaker 6: But if it's not consistent, it's really hard to coach

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Speaker 6: your guys on what you can do. And then the

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Speaker 6: big thing for us is how are we going to

514
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Speaker 6: play defense? You know, we teach them play with their bodies,

515
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Speaker 6: not with their hands, and we feel like sometimes that

516
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Speaker 6: you know, the offense gets the benefit of doubt where

517
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Speaker 6: they jump into you and they cause contact and it's hard.

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Speaker 6: I'm not saying it's easy to officiate. The only thing

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Speaker 6: we asked for is them to be consistent.

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Speaker 2: Doug Gottlieb joining us here on Fox Sports Radio, the

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Speaker 2: head coach at the Green Bay men's basketball team that

522
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Speaker 2: fell to Milwaukee yesterday in controversial fashion. Doug gott Leave's

523
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Speaker 2: postgame comments went viral yesterday, so we're following up on that.

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Speaker 2: Have you heard from the Commissioner's office at all about

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Speaker 2: what happened yesterday? Borrow tomorrow? Okay tomorrow.

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Speaker 6: Now when you star, you a numissioner too, So she

527
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Speaker 6: like just took the job.

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Speaker 2: Sure, putting a lot on her plate on day one.

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Speaker 7: Doug, come man.

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Speaker 2: The point that I was going to say is, Doug,

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Speaker 2: you know this like they're people. People will wake up

532
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Speaker 2: in the middle of the night just to disagree with you.

533
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Speaker 2: And I heard so many people on your side. I

534
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:32,919
Speaker 2: had more than a handful of people send me the

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Speaker 2: video of your comments. One anonymous person I didn't want

536
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Speaker 2: to name him sent me said I watched the entire game,

537
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Speaker 2: understand his frustration. Those refs were terrible. Watching the game,

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Speaker 2: I wondered if one ref wanted Milwaukee to win? Does

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Speaker 2: that make you feel any better when people are on

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Speaker 2: your side and at least seeing your point when you

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Speaker 2: when you hear comments.

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Speaker 6: Like that, Yeah, but like again, and do I put

543
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Speaker 6: my my team in a bad spot moving forward? We

544
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Speaker 6: got two more road games here before I finished up

545
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:04,479
Speaker 6: a Youngstown and we got to win a couple more

546
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 6: if we want to get a home home game in

547
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Speaker 6: the conference tournament. And I mean, you know, yesterday we

548
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Speaker 6: got a chance to move up in a second, be

549
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 6: half game out of first or whatever would have been

550
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 6: a gigantic thing for us, and we lost. And you

551
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 6: can't just sit here blaming the officials whatever. And you know,

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Speaker 6: I mean officials are a type fraternity. Are they going

553
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 6: to think that I got it out for all of

554
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Speaker 6: them when I do not? So does it feel better? Like?

555
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 6: I guess? But you know it's like one of those

556
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Speaker 6: you can drive a car your feet, that doesn't make

557
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:40,280
Speaker 6: it a good idea. And you know, you just got

558
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Speaker 6: to be really cautious with you know, obviously I have

559
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Speaker 6: a big platform, and as you said, Ben, you know, people,

560
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Speaker 6: for whatever reason, I've always cared about what I say

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Speaker 6: and what I do, and with that, you just got

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Speaker 6: to be careful about when you use that power when

563
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Speaker 6: you do not, And just because people agree with you

564
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Speaker 6: doesn't mean it's the right thing to do. So, you know,

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Speaker 6: you look, you learn a million things. I remember when

566
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Speaker 6: I was hosting, and I think we talked about it,

567
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Speaker 6: but the comments were before we all work together, which

568
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Speaker 6: is you know, David Blatt said, you know, it's like

569
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Speaker 6: being a a fighter pilot where you're making you know,

570
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Speaker 6: two hundred decisions a minute or whatever he said, And

571
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Speaker 6: it really is true, like you're there's so many different

572
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Speaker 6: things you're deciding right, and you're working with the staff,

573
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Speaker 6: and I have really experienced staff, and I got to decide, Okay,

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Speaker 6: am I listening to them? Who am I listening to?

575
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Speaker 6: What are we seeing? What are we doing? Who are

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Speaker 6: we playing? How are we matching up with them? Man zone?

577
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Speaker 6: What's our ball screen coverage? What are we running? Do

578
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Speaker 6: we just let him play? You know, all those different things,

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Speaker 6: And and then again when the game's over, processing the

580
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Speaker 6: emotions of it, you know, defending your players, defending your

581
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:54,440
Speaker 6: program on the other hand, not putting your program your

582
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 6: players in a bad spot. So you know, look, I'm

583
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Speaker 6: gonna learn from it, and I'm gonna get better because

584
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Speaker 6: of it. But I gotta get better as a coach,

585
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Speaker 6: and we got to run better stuff, and we got

586
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Speaker 6: to make a move more and control the game more

587
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Speaker 6: because we we had it under control, we had in

588
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Speaker 6: our tempo, and then we kind of schooled it away.

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Speaker 2: Jason Stewart's got something for you, Doug.

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Speaker 10: We got about forty five seconds. You talked about how

591
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Speaker 10: people love to hate what you do. A year ago.

592
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Speaker 10: Today you were in the middle of this flood of

593
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Speaker 10: negative publicity and social media negativity. It was hell. I'm

594
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Speaker 10: sure quickly, how many of those people that were kicking

595
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Speaker 10: you in the teeth a year ago have sent you

596
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Speaker 10: private messages or gone on wind saying I'm sorry, I

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00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:44,360
Speaker 10: was wrong, I was harsh.

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Speaker 6: You probably count on both hands. You know. My bigger

599
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Speaker 6: thing is places like ESPN, where I had worked and

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Speaker 6: made great relationships. Some other networks had had people, and

601
00:30:56,760 --> 00:31:01,240
Speaker 6: maybe it's their social media people whatever. Uh, you know,

602
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 6: it's some ya who at home is a keyboard warrior,

603
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 6: didn't like me or whatever. I can't control that. I

604
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 6: don't care some young Jake school student. I don't care.

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00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:14,960
Speaker 6: But places that I've worked, where I've treated people well,

606
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Speaker 6: I was really bothered by and those those apologies have

607
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 6: not come in.

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Speaker 2: Are you going to have to sell the jet Skis

609
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Speaker 2: after tomorrow?

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Speaker 6: It's the question, Oh, it's a great question. It's a

611
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Speaker 6: very there. They're in storage at seminars and I may

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Speaker 6: I may have to There's there's a hefty find coming down.

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Speaker 6: I mean the jet skis. Oh that's a damn Dan.

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Speaker 6: You you you really don't have a t off on me.

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Speaker 7: I am just saying if.

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Speaker 6: The jet Skis got to go, the jet Skis got

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Speaker 6: to go.

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Speaker 2: Let's hope it doesn't come to that. Uh. We appreciate

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Speaker 2: the time we're pulling for you. Top five in that

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Speaker 2: conference is big for how your conference bracket is now

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Speaker 2: set up as well. So I get it, and I

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Speaker 2: got of all of the people that reached out to me.

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Speaker 7: Everybody's like, I agree with them. They were all calls.

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Speaker 2: So you can at least take solace in that. Great

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Speaker 2: to catch up. We'll be watching again later this week.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate it, Hi, boys. Doug Gottlieb, head coach the Green

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Speaker 2: Bay Phoenix, went viral from his postgame comments yesterday, Doug

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Speaker 2: kind of clearing it up today.

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Speaker 3: I know we got to get to Isaac, but that

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Speaker 3: was my I You know, sometimes you browse the comments

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Speaker 3: below the video, there was a lot of team Doug Gottlieb,

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Speaker 3: we need more accountability for these officials, so you know,

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Speaker 3: he stirred a lot in a lot of people with

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Speaker 3: those comments.

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Speaker 2: Stu gots and Company. God Bless Football and with Stu

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Speaker 2: Gotts and Hawkman. It is President's Day, a day that

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Speaker 2: Jason Stewart, our executive producer, always looks forward to on

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Speaker 2: the calendar, a day that we celebrate the presidents of

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Speaker 2: the United States.

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Speaker 10: That's right, Dan, and this is what This was my

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Speaker 10: concept as usual. It was a concept that wasn't really

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Speaker 10: well thought out. That's kind of how I roll. But

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Speaker 10: I said of the five of us working on the

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Speaker 10: show today that as you said, make up the Company

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Speaker 10: and Stu gottson Company Live today, I wanted to know

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Speaker 10: who is on the Mount Rushmore of athletes with presidential names?

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Speaker 7: You get that.

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Speaker 10: I did Mount Rushmore presidential names, and I thought that

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Speaker 10: there was going to be a lot of redundancies here.

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Speaker 10: I thought that we were going to go to the

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Speaker 10: same place over and over again and I could present

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Speaker 10: to you an easy list. But it's incredible. There is

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Speaker 10: only one name that four of us guessed, and everyone

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Speaker 10: else just submitted different names. So I'm going to utilize

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Speaker 10: this segment in a different fashion. I'm going to give

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Speaker 10: you some of the great names and we're going to

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Speaker 10: come up with our own Mount Rushmore in real time

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Speaker 10: for the listeners. None of you guys have been prepared for.

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Speaker 10: This is incredible. So I'm going to get the one

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Speaker 10: thing out of the way. First, three of the five

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Speaker 10: of you put Lincoln Kennedy as a name that sounds presidential.

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Speaker 10: We're solid, seems very Wheelhouse. Well, he's got two president

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Speaker 10: names there.

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Speaker 2: Incredible. He's born on President's Day a couple of days ago.

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Speaker 10: The shocking thing is the rest of these names. There's

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Speaker 10: not one repeat amongst them, and it's incredible. And I

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Speaker 10: want to say this as just kind of a precursor.

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Speaker 10: There were varying levels of energy put into this by

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Speaker 10: each of you. Isaac long Crown actually said to me,

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Speaker 10: I stopped doing my update to put energy into this list.

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Speaker 10: He was so excited to do this. Aaron Torres, however,

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Speaker 10: submitted two names and gave up.

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Speaker 3: One of them was thanks to Chris Purfett, who mentioned

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Speaker 3: that was in our email chain.

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Speaker 7: Yeah he got.

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Speaker 2: Mount rush That's that's as much as he got, and.

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Speaker 7: I need more.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 5: No.

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Speaker 7: I thought Mount Rushmore's two people I didn't know.

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Speaker 2: And in your defense, I didn't understand the actual exercise.

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Speaker 2: I thought we were going to read all of ours,

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Speaker 2: so I purposely tried to be unique with the ballot.

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Speaker 10: Again, very well thought out on my part, and I'm

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Speaker 10: guessing the listeners like, so what did Isaac put so

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Speaker 10: much energy into? And he came up with this, This

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Speaker 10: is a great one. Tanya Harding too, that's wow. Deep pull.

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Speaker 10: James Harrison, I think there was actually James Harrison president.

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Speaker 10: Now it is William Henry Harrison. It's William Henry number nine.

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Speaker 10: And then this one he put a lot of thought into.

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Speaker 10: Justin Herbert Herbert who Hoover's first name, Herbert in credit work.

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Speaker 10: And then I guess Grover Cleveland Alexander was a baseball

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Speaker 10: player named after her President Hall of Fame pitcher.

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Speaker 8: But here's the thing, Grover Cleveland there but they made

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Speaker 8: a movie about Grover Cleveland Alexander in nineteen fifty two

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Speaker 8: and he was portrayed by Ronald Reagan.

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Speaker 10: True story. Look, could all these could all these presidential

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Speaker 10: tie ins? This is amazing. Dan Byer, who is admitted

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Speaker 10: to didn't didn't quite get the exercise. He came up

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Speaker 10: with Jamal Adams. Yes, they were at least two Adams.

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Speaker 2: I was going to try to do a mount rushmore

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Speaker 2: of presidential names and awful trades, but I got as

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Speaker 2: far as Jamal Adams. He came up with Madison Keys.

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Speaker 8: Oh good one.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I like going outside of the main sports. Tanya

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Speaker 10: Harding and Madison Keys, Greg Monroe, that's hard to argue

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Speaker 10: with that one, and Paul Pierce. So those were Dan's

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Speaker 10: so good one. By the way, I missed out, I'm

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Speaker 10: the best one. Bengals head coach, Zach Taylor and Zachary Taylor.

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Speaker 2: Darn it.

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Speaker 7: Oh, don't spoil the other ballots. Give it to give

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Speaker 7: it to Aeron Torres. He only is two open spots.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I, by the way, can I add as

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Speaker 3: we were prepping for the Doug interview, his fourth leading

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Speaker 3: scorer is named Preston Rudiger, who absolutely sounds like he

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Speaker 3: could run for president, right, So I was gonna add

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Speaker 3: him to my ballots. So I'm at four now if

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Speaker 3: I steal Zach Taylor.

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Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 10: Aaron's other submission was George Washington the third. I guess

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Speaker 10: he was a guard for the Florida Gulf Coast. Yeah,

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Speaker 10: began his career at Michigan. I like it fet Bud Grant,

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Speaker 10: Whitey Ford and Lawrence Taylor. Oh those are good. I

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Speaker 10: was really happy about the Bud I just really wanted

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Speaker 10: to Bud Grant one well, Ulysses, I was thinking and

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Speaker 10: Grant as well, but I went Grant Hill. Grant is

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Speaker 10: a Pistons fan. Not put down Grant Hill. Justin Jefferson

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Speaker 10: and Nate Washington finish out mine. So what do you

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Speaker 10: guys think? Who makes out the other three? Lincoln Kennedy

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Speaker 10: and who else do we love the most?

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Speaker 7: I liked.

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Speaker 9: I think Bud Grant, Zach and Zachary Taylor are pretty

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Speaker 9: straight on.

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Speaker 10: But that wasn't submitted, so I have two extra spots.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. The George Washington, Yeah, yeah, I think that that's apropol.

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Speaker 7: Sounds like it might have been a president at one point.

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Speaker 2: And Devin H. W. Bush. No, I'm kidding. I have

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Speaker 2: no idea. Still got to company live in Fox Sports

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Speaker 2: Radio