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Speaker 1: Your tunes about drive on your twenty four to seven

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Speaker 1: home of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Good evening, Steeler Nation. How we doing well? That's good

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Speaker 2: us too, our number two here on a victory Tuesday.

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Speaker 2: As the Steelers take care of business, they move to

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Speaker 2: eight and six and Matt before we go around the

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Speaker 2: league here real quick, I do have Chris Adanski, the

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Speaker 2: Old Buzz himself, tweeted this out. I thought this was

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Speaker 2: pretty good. The Kansas City Chiefs were eliminated from playoff contention.

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Speaker 2: We'll get to that here in just a minute. They

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Speaker 2: will play more meaningless games, meaning eliminated from playoff contention

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Speaker 2: over the next twenty days than the Steelers have in

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Speaker 2: the last nineteen seasons under Mike Tomlin. Like that is why.

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Speaker 2: And I know that. Yeah, we don't care. They went

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Speaker 2: to five super Bowls and one three. I get it

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Speaker 2: what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: I'd rather be the Chiefs, Abody.

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Speaker 2: I would rather be eliminated from the playoffs right now

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Speaker 2: and have won three super Bowls in the last seven years.

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Speaker 2: But that's still just what. That's just wild.

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Speaker 3: It is pretty wild, insane.

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Speaker 4: I didn't put two and two together on it, but

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Speaker 4: I did see the Steelers number going into this game,

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Speaker 4: you know, two days ago or whatever that in that

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Speaker 4: many years they've played two meaningless games or something.

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Speaker 3: One is that what it is?

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Speaker 2: One that didn't one game eliminated from playoff?

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Speaker 3: Or they say what you want, but that's insane, folks, or.

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Speaker 2: That you had already clinched you know, it could be

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Speaker 2: a good thing to make like last year the Chief,

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Speaker 2: the Chief that final week of the season didn't play

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Speaker 2: anybody less. But that doesn't count as a meaningless game

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Speaker 2: because you're in the play You get what I'm saying,

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Speaker 2: like that that does meaningless game is eliminated from playoff?

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Speaker 3: Can okay? Okay? In a game where I have no

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Speaker 3: chance to go to the playoffs? Correct?

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Speaker 2: Exactly right, exactly right, which is which is just wi

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Speaker 2: which is just wild. Again, I would I would rather

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Speaker 2: be the Chiefs. And not being naive, I'm not trying

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Speaker 2: to be ignorant here, but that's just it's just insane.

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Speaker 4: Us repeating that does not mean the Steelers are better

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Speaker 4: than the Chiefs over the last correct.

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Speaker 2: Correct, nobody is absolutely right, And it doesn't mean you

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Speaker 2: know that that means that Mike Tomlin is perfect and

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Speaker 2: hasn't done anything wrong in the last nineteen years. It's

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Speaker 2: just a crazy status when you think about what you

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Speaker 2: know what that's been accomplished, and but from a Steelers standpoint,

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Speaker 2: it's it's really drives home that that model of consistency.

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Speaker 3: Speaking of the Chief.

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Speaker 4: Real quick, I wonder if, like, does Kelsey get shut down?

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Speaker 4: Does anybody that have little injuries at this point, especially

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Speaker 4: I mean obviously Mahome. Mahomes was fighting that knee for

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Speaker 4: a while. Yes, and my co host on the Lockdown Show,

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Speaker 4: we've kind of made the joke because it was his

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Speaker 4: knee gave out almost exactly the point in the game

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Speaker 4: when they were finally eliminated, Like I was compared to

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Speaker 4: the like Gladiator or Brave Heart or something like is

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Speaker 4: that knee.

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Speaker 2: He right, Wallace finally gets eventually.

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Speaker 3: You know, I finally have to that Ligaman can only

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Speaker 3: hold on for so long.

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Speaker 2: Right kills Walking Phoenix spoiler alert, it's only been out

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Speaker 2: for twenty five years, right, and then he collapses and dieses.

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Speaker 4: But it was like finally, like I bet that thing

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Speaker 4: last couple of games, and then finally it was like,

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Speaker 4: all right, I finally succumb you know.

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Speaker 2: Well, let's go into that one. I mean, Chargers beat

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Speaker 2: the Chiefs at Arrowhead sixteen thirteen. Chiefs eliminated from the

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Speaker 2: postseason for the first time in eleven years. Patrick Mahomes

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Speaker 2: torn a cl in the process. The biggest question for

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Speaker 2: me is how does this affect Travis Kelsey's future too?

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Speaker 2: I mean, the biggest question is where the Chiefs go

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Speaker 2: from here? How do they alight?

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Speaker 3: You know, is they'll talk about that stuff this offseason too.

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Speaker 4: Totals we'll do We'll do like a state of each division.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, I could do those blindfold totally.

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Speaker 2: But for someone like Kelsey, who was already probably leaning

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Speaker 3: I bet he was done, no matter what.

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Speaker 2: I bet he was done, no matter what. But I

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Speaker 3: Worry about or I wonder about Reid.

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Speaker 2: It's a great point to make.

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Speaker 2: I also think though, because I think we saw we

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, and they're both And I'm I don't mean

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Speaker 2: they both kind of strike me as like shiny silver object.

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Speaker 2: Guys like look at that. What Yeah, start a podcast,

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Speaker 2: Let's make it the biggest podcast in sports.

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Speaker 3: And let's dive into the deep end.

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Speaker 2: You want to go. I'm Travis Kelsey. I want to

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Speaker 2: go shoot my shot with a famous woman. I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna attempt to go on a date with the

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Speaker 2: most famous woman in the world, you know who. Four

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Speaker 2: years ago, when he was on the podcast like I

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Speaker 2: really want to go on a date with Taylor Swift.

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Speaker 2: Think I'm gonna try and make that happen, and then

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Speaker 2: him this entire way being like, this is it for me,

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Speaker 2: last dance, last run.

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Speaker 3: I didn't think you'd be back this year.

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Speaker 2: And then he sees his boy mahomes on the ground

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Speaker 2: and he's like, is this how I really like? This

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Speaker 2: is going to be the last game that I ever

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Speaker 2: play in with with Pat and this is how we're

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Speaker 2: gonna go out, and this is how I'm going to

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Speaker 2: go out. I could see that changing his mind a

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Speaker 4: I don't know, maybe maybe maybe they all convinced each other.

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Speaker 4: Let's do one more run. We were closer than Yeah,

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Speaker 4: the results happened. I just think he's clearly declining, Oh

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Speaker 4: for sure, you know. I mean, he's not the superstar

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Speaker 4: he used to be. Didn't look like he enjoyed the

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Speaker 4: cold as much as he did, and not as many smiles.

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Speaker 4: And he's got other things going on.

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Speaker 2: Just a few.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I wonder I worry about or wonder about Reid

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Speaker 4: and Spagnolo and some of the guys just been there

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Speaker 3: Maybe hang it up.

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Speaker 2: I tell you what, all that all that can have

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Speaker 2: the Only thing that can't happen here, Matt, is that

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Speaker 2: the Chiefs new coaching staff Mahomes misses a bunch of

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Speaker 2: time next year, they stink and they draft Jeremiah Smith

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Speaker 2: and then you and then you get Pat Mahomes Jeremiah

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Speaker 2: Smith for the last eight or nine years of his career.

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Speaker 2: That can't happen, all right, that.

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Speaker 3: Can't let that happen.

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Speaker 2: Don't let that happen in the script. But how about

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Speaker 2: the Charger.

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Speaker 3: He's ready for opening day though, you think so.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he's one of those wolverine like healers, Like, yeah,

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Speaker 4: I bet he won't do anything in camp and then

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Speaker 2: Like maybe at least but before the end of September.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think it'll destroy next year. For how

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Speaker 4: about the Daniel Jones A different story and some of

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Speaker 4: these other you know, achilles are that's messy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, how about the Chargers though ten and four? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: we want to make I feel like we've written him

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Speaker 2: off a few times and they just keep winning games,

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Speaker 2: still staying right. I want him to stay right in

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Speaker 2: that five spot, Matt, so that they have to come

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Speaker 2: to Akroscher Stadium second weekend in January. If the Steelers

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Speaker 2: can take care of business and win the North.

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Speaker 4: I wouldn't fear them at all. Greatly respect their coach

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Speaker 4: and I think they're really well coached top to bottom.

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Speaker 4: They get the most other dudes. But that game, like y'all,

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Speaker 4: Herbert was pressured on like sixty percent of his dropbacks.

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Speaker 4: He's got a broken hand and he's overcoming all that stuff.

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Speaker 3: But I keep thinking they're gonna fall off. But they're

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Speaker 3: going to the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: I mean yeah, at ten and four, they're going to.

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Speaker 3: The beating the Chiefs. I mean that's that's pretty much

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Speaker 2: One hundred percent. Yea Bears roll against the Browns thirty

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Speaker 2: one to three. In Chicago, they moved to ten and four.

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Speaker 2: The Chicago Bears. Browns were a real no show in

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Speaker 2: this Browns were a real no show. Miles Garrett got

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Speaker 3: A half one and a half. It's a record.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so he's at twenty one, so he's a half

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Speaker 2: in TJ and he's got three games to do it good.

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Speaker 3: I mean, he's gonna do it. He's gonna do it, yeah,

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Speaker 3: and he's playing at that level. He deserves it.

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Speaker 4: But the rest of the team has not. Didn't look

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Speaker 3: To do their own lines all beat up and wasn't

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Speaker 4: I mean, they rushed for like one point seven yards

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Speaker 4: the Raiders were total no shows this weekend. Yes, it's

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Speaker 2: Can kunel on three baby yeah, Matt. No help from

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Speaker 2: the Bengals as they get weird game they get the

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Speaker 4: Watching it from Afar, I thought, boy, they're kind of

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Speaker 3: Burrow said stuff, he's not happy.

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Speaker 4: And nobody cares. I don't think that's what it was.

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Speaker 4: I mean, first off, the Ravens are starting to play

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Speaker 4: and more like himself each week, which is a little frightening.

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Speaker 4: But the Ravens that concentrated more on them. There's both

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Speaker 4: their lines of scrimmage are below the line still. They

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Speaker 4: wanted to start the year. They their past rush. They

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Speaker 4: really missed Matabouquet. Their guards aren't very good, so I'm

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Speaker 4: not super fearful of the Ravens. But they are getting

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Speaker 4: better because the quarterbacks getting better. But like two things

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Speaker 4: that really encapsulated that game where a ridiculously high number

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Speaker 4: of the Ravens plays were explosives and which is a

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Speaker 4: Bengals defensive issue, you know, like total Henry gets free.

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Speaker 4: And they also had a return for a touchdown. I

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Speaker 4: don't know if you saw it, but the van neyt

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Speaker 4: picks off Burrow and like ed Reid fashion pitches it

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Speaker 4: Edrid takes it to the house. But I heard a

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Speaker 4: Bengals had like thirty four minutes or maybe even more

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Speaker 2: They just moved.

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Speaker 3: The ball over and over and then they like turned

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Speaker 2: Like I thought, yeah, that's funny that Ed Reid pitched

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Speaker 3: That's something like that.

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Speaker 2: That's two thousand, two thousand and five Jerome heritage right there, baby, Matt.

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Speaker 2: In one of the crazier games of the year and

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Speaker 4: I mean, Allen's numbers don't look like MVP ish from

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Speaker 4: Winter is coming and the Bills in that quarterback are

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 3: I mean, he just gets better.

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Speaker 2: He's like, if you don't get that reference, go watch game,

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Speaker 2: I forget who said this. I heard somebody say this.

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Speaker 2: He has a joke. He had a really popular joke

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Speaker 2: Say, I think what you're saying it was, it's this

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Speaker 2: the season. There's no secrets left. The tape is out

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Speaker 3: Everything's a little harder to accomplish, a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Harder to accomplish, weather's a little bit worse.

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Speaker 3: Your body hurts a little more, your knees bug anymore.

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Speaker 2: You know, in the in the inches between true greatness

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Speaker 4: I think, yeah, I'm sure if you talk to like

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Speaker 4: ratchet up, ratchet up, ratchet up, you know, and Alan

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Speaker 3: The league by fall, Josh is Josh Alt. Yes, he's

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Speaker 2: Know, he is the dragon that the White Walkers are

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Speaker 2: go watch Game of Thrones, you knuckleheads. In the Battle

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Speaker 2: just I don't trust him. I I think you and

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Speaker 2: I would both admit we were both on the same page.

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Speaker 2: We were kind of out, not kind of. We were

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Speaker 3: I've got a million questions.

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Speaker 4: The Steelers taking Darden said of Harm, I still don't

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Speaker 2: I understand the question. I'm still not going there yet

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Speaker 2: because of Again, for as much good as he shows

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Speaker 2: A ton and you can you.

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Speaker 4: Like everybody else, Washington's kind of a disaster though, too, Like,

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Speaker 3: Old, right and old.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of worse than the league, Matt, the Raiders continue

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Speaker 3: In the fall score. And look at like the plays run.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean the rushing yards aren't much better. The

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Speaker 4: This was over like yeah.

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Speaker 2: The quarter, Oh my gosh, this was over on the

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean McKee's playing the whole fourth quarter and

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Speaker 4: those ones out of the game. This kind of offends

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Speaker 3: I mean it's not NFL quality, No, it really is.

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Speaker 2: Were we were joking with TV before we started recording.

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Speaker 2: We always laugh at that, like could Ohio State beat

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Speaker 3: No, no, no, the.

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Speaker 2: Browns practice squad would wax yeah, but you know what,

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Speaker 2: Ohio State might be able to hang around the Raiders

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's really idiots at this point. It's bad.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's and it's like I told you, and this

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Speaker 3: Don't fix.

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Speaker 2: Like I was getting so many tweets the last like

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Speaker 2: just wait. I think you could put healthy mahomes behind

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Speaker 3: It's terrible.

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Speaker 2: It's terrible.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean they're a distant thirty second.

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Speaker 3: They don't.

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Speaker 4: I mean, they're the coaching is old too. I mean

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Speaker 2: And I mean even brock Bowers and Ashton genty like

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Speaker 2: Matt another one of these teams, kind of like the Chargers.

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Speaker 2: I think that you and I a few times have

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Speaker 2: back down to Earth and all those things. The Jags

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Speaker 2: continue to win ten and four. Lawrence was a mad man,

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Speaker 2: a absolute madman. Five touchdowns for Trevor Lawrence. I decided,

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Speaker 2: Thank the Lord, at the very last minute, I started

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Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence over bow Nicks in my in my big

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Speaker 4: Baby, Yeah, my top fantasy league. I have the best team.

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Speaker 2: A tough right, It's a tough business. It's cruel. But

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Speaker 2: You know, four or five weeks ago, they had that

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Speaker 2: here's where Jacksonville starts.

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Speaker 3: To thought South.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and instead they've round off.

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Speaker 3: That's when they played their best.

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Speaker 2: When they've played their best, and they are ten and four.

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Speaker 2: I don't think many legit saw that coming. They are

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think they're a Super Bowl contender, but

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Speaker 2: One hundred percent. I think, especially when you mentioned in

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Speaker 4: They have some parallels with the Bears. Now, Williams is

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Speaker 4: Right in both teams really invested in offense, you know,

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Speaker 2: They're both Yeah, they're both going to be in the postseason.

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Speaker 3: And you're pretty dire for a while.

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Speaker 2: I don't think they're Super Bowl favorites, but they're also

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Speaker 3: They're favored in Pittsburgh right now, yes, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and right on their heels, playing really good football

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Speaker 3: I'm to that point.

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Speaker 4: Denver's pretty darn impressive too right now, so I think

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Speaker 2: He met Mike Fraser in this building. He does afternoons

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Speaker 3: I know he is, but yeah, he's.

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Speaker 2: A music guy, you know, DJ guy, but obviously a

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Speaker 2: I don't want to bog you down because I know

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Speaker 2: the Houston Texans. I think, yeah, yeah, And I said,

444
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Speaker 2: but if both of those teams are wild cards, if

445
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Speaker 2: both those teams are wild cards, you could play a

446
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Speaker 2: couple of games before seeing those guys. Every team is flawed.

447
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Speaker 2: But I said to him, I said, I really think

448
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Speaker 2: the Houston Texans, Josh Allen is dangerous and the Houston

449
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Speaker 2: Texans are dangerous.

450
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Speaker 3: About Denver's impressive time, I.

451
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Speaker 2: Said, you'd have to go to Denver, which is always tough, horrible,

452
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Speaker 2: I said, but like you know, there's the AFC feels

453
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Speaker 2: wide open. But I really like the Texans, and I

454
00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:54,760
Speaker 2: really think Josh Allen is at the right time. Yep,

455
00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:58,480
Speaker 2: and the Texans game behind the Jags watch out, but

456
00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:00,960
Speaker 2: after starting to zero and three, they're own to the playoffs.

457
00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:03,159
Speaker 2: Matt and what had kind of been built is the

458
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Speaker 2: game of the week and ended up being a pretty

459
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Speaker 2: good one. The Broncos take care of the Packers. Another

460
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Speaker 2: massive implication injury ACL injury. It's Michael Parsons going out

461
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Speaker 2: in this one. The Packers now losing Craft and Parsons

462
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Speaker 2: in the span of about a month to knee injuries

463
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Speaker 2: as they Hey, they're still going to be a dangerous team,

464
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Speaker 2: but it feels like there maybe Super Bowl status took

465
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Speaker 2: a massive hit with the loss, and with the loss

466
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Speaker 2: of Michael Parsons. The Broncos keep winning twelve and two,

467
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Speaker 2: and now with the Patriots loss, you know, clearly on

468
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Speaker 2: the inside track to have that first round by in

469
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Speaker 2: the AFC.

470
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Speaker 4: Which is the best home field advantage in my opinion

471
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Speaker 4: the whole league. Yeah, especially as the season goes on. Well,

472
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Speaker 4: no matter what early in the season, everyone's worn out

473
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Speaker 4: just because of the altitude, total and great fans d

474
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Speaker 4: Their defense is still as good as it's ever been.

475
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Speaker 4: Denver Nicks played his best game maybe as a pro,

476
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Speaker 4: and looks like he's turning the corner with the finer things.

477
00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:05,119
Speaker 4: Sean Payton's bringing him along extremely well.

478
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Speaker 3: And you hate it.

479
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Speaker 4: I mean, like I don't want injuries to top players,

480
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Speaker 4: you know, and really to me makes the Packers.

481
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Speaker 3: A tier A Tier two team, excuse me, rather than

482
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Speaker 3: a Tier one team.

483
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Speaker 2: I agree with you on that, Like they're still there,

484
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Speaker 2: there's still a threat.

485
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Speaker 3: Yeah, but I think that closed teams out.

486
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Speaker 2: I think that's a good way to put it. They

487
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Speaker 2: were in that Tier one. I think they've dropped down

488
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Speaker 2: a tier two. Yeah, Matt, clearly in Tier one is

489
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Speaker 2: the Rams perhaps the best team in football as they

490
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Speaker 2: get an important win over the Lions for them, which

491
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Speaker 2: sets up a big one Thursday night against Seattle that

492
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Speaker 2: we'll talk playing about.

493
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Speaker 3: It later in the week. It might be about DeVante

494
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Speaker 3: Adams probably will.

495
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Speaker 2: Probably will be. But they take care of a desperate

496
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Speaker 2: Lions team forty one to thirty four.

497
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Speaker 4: And as you can imagine, I've done a lot of

498
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Speaker 4: Lions homework and they Lions came out lying in that game.

499
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Speaker 4: Same Brown was rolling along. He had a really good game.

500
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Speaker 2: Hit twenty four points in the first half.

501
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Speaker 4: I think the Rams are the only team that can

502
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Speaker 4: play anyway one. I mean, if you're in takeaway in

503
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Speaker 4: my passing game, I'm gonna run it like crazy, vice

504
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Speaker 4: versa defense offense.

505
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Speaker 2: Here comes Kyron Williams, Here comes Pooka.

506
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Speaker 4: Yeah quarterback. I mean Puka was awesome in this game.

507
00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:14,639
Speaker 4: The quarterback coach is as good a combinations or is

508
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Speaker 4: in the league.

509
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Speaker 3: And they just don't have weaknesses, you know.

510
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Speaker 4: And Detroit couldn't run on them, and Detroit couldn't stop

511
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Speaker 4: the run, and Detroit is a somewhat flawed team, but

512
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Speaker 4: they're a desperate team. I mean, we'll talk more about

513
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Speaker 4: them during the week, but they kind of It's kind

514
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Speaker 4: of reminds me of Patriots bills, where the one team

515
00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:36,800
Speaker 4: gets up on You're like, oh, wow, they might pull

516
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Speaker 4: off this off, and then the team that's been winning

517
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Speaker 4: a lot lately comes back and takes care of things.

518
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Speaker 2: That sets up a big one Thursday night against Seattle

519
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Speaker 2: to eleven and three teams. You'll be proud of me.

520
00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:50,760
Speaker 2: I've told you this before, like I choose sleep and

521
00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:53,600
Speaker 2: I choose being a dad now obviously more than I

522
00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:56,280
Speaker 2: have at any point in my life before. I sacrifice

523
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Speaker 2: a lot of my own personal sports and you know,

524
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Speaker 2: entertainment and can certain interest to be dad and to

525
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Speaker 2: get rest. But my wife was like, hey, Thursday night,

526
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Speaker 2: can we do this Santa thing with the girls? And

527
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Speaker 2: I was like, absolutely not. What times it start? Eight o'clock?

528
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Speaker 2: Absolutely not, sweetheart, because at eight o'clock you can take

529
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Speaker 2: them if you want, But I'm gonna be in the

530
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Speaker 2: basement that one of the games of the LA and Seattle. Sorry,

531
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Speaker 2: sweet I have to do it for my job.

532
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Speaker 3: It's amazing that's two days away, like today, fields like Monday.

533
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Speaker 2: To me, it's crazy and I'm so funny. I mean,

534
00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:27,640
Speaker 2: part of it so because we only slept for about

535
00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:30,159
Speaker 2: ninety minutes last night. But the other part is certainly

536
00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:32,879
Speaker 2: because of the weird calendar this week and getting on

537
00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:35,280
Speaker 2: a plane Saturday to go to Detroit, all that good stuff.

538
00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:38,120
Speaker 2: Big missed opportunity for the Carolina Panthers mad as they

539
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Speaker 2: fall in New Orleans to the Saints twenty to seventeen.

540
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Speaker 3: Who wants to win this out?

541
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Speaker 2: No one?

542
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Speaker 3: All right, it's a miserable division.

543
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Speaker 2: But your boy Tyler Shuck continues to some reason for

544
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Speaker 2: optimism there New Orleans. And that's like we've talked about

545
00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:54,399
Speaker 2: one of these teams taking quarterback off the board that

546
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Speaker 2: could potentially, Hey, we're a long way from April, and yeah, yeah,

547
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Speaker 2: fully committing to the Stroulers. He is making a strong

548
00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:02,920
Speaker 2: case and we'll get in at least more tomorrow year.

549
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Speaker 4: You know, give me one year, do something else in

550
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Speaker 4: the first round and give me a year to see

551
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Speaker 4: what I can do.

552
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Speaker 3: Absolutely his age, that might be the right move too, you.

553
00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:13,160
Speaker 2: Know, totally, totally, And we'll talk more about this tomorrow.

554
00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:17,480
Speaker 2: But the draft picture as it relates to quarterbacks starting

555
00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:19,080
Speaker 2: to get more clear, as some of those guys have

556
00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:21,760
Speaker 2: declared for the draft. Some of those guys have stated

557
00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:24,200
Speaker 2: their intentions to return to school. We'll get more into

558
00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:24,800
Speaker 2: that tomorrow.

559
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Speaker 4: Having there's things like Senior Bowl. People were accepting offers

560
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Speaker 4: and stuff too. Yes, yeah, I mean it's starting. It's

561
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Speaker 4: not far from draft season.

562
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Speaker 2: Niners take care of business at home against the Titans.

563
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Speaker 2: Thirty seven to twenty four. Wasn't a dominating commanding performance,

564
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Speaker 2: but the Niners moved to ten and four, and Matt

565
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Speaker 2: maybe most encouraging was I think that's probably the best

566
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Speaker 2: that Brock Party has looked all year for San Francisco.

567
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Speaker 4: Yeah, Kittle's coming on strong, They're going to the playoffs.

568
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Speaker 2: They're well coached, Petersall's back healthy, he looks.

569
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Speaker 4: I'm a big fan, But really my takeaway was, unlike

570
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Speaker 4: the Raiders or Browns, he's still fighting and scratching, and

571
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Speaker 4: their quarterback showing heart.

572
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Speaker 3: And we know they're not talented, but they didn't just

573
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Speaker 3: roll over.

574
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Speaker 2: You know. I think of all the really truly bad teams,

575
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Speaker 2: I think they've got a chance to not go to

576
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Speaker 2: the playoffs next year. Anything like that, but but be

577
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Speaker 2: respectful and this time they.

578
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Speaker 4: Might had to be the GM of one of those

579
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Speaker 4: terrible teams. Totally sign the titan.

580
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Speaker 2: And like this time next year they could be one

581
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Speaker 2: of those six and seven teams that's still in.

582
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Speaker 3: The hunt exactly. And that's huge frogs.

583
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Speaker 2: Seven and sixteen that's still in the hunt.

584
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you take that and heartbeat A dramatic.

585
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Speaker 2: One in Seattle is the Seahawks win eighteen to sixteen

586
00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:39,600
Speaker 2: over the Colts. They really set the Colts back and

587
00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:43,400
Speaker 2: in the playoff hunt there Seattle stays in lockstep step

588
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Speaker 2: to set up a massive one Thursday night against the

589
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Speaker 2: Rams and they just met a break poor Philip Rivers heart,

590
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Speaker 2: I mean, it leads them down the statch. They take

591
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Speaker 2: the lead with like a minute left and winner what

592
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Speaker 2: could have been a game winner, and that would have

593
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Speaker 2: been the story this morning. Forty four year old Philip

594
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Speaker 2: Rivers gets to win.

595
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Speaker 4: Instead, they're like fourteen point underdogs, yeah right, thirteen and

596
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Speaker 4: a half.

597
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Speaker 2: Instead, Seattle breaks their hearts and just does what they

598
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Speaker 2: have continued to do along with the Rams. I mean,

599
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Speaker 2: bona fide Super Bowl contender, one of the best teams

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Speaker 2: in the NFL.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, quietly.

602
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Speaker 4: I think Seattle's offense is they gone a little backwards though, you.

603
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Speaker 2: Know Donald little backwards.

604
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Speaker 4: Yeah, running games not as strong as it was, you know,

605
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Speaker 4: just amongst the best teams. You know, it's not like

606
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:28,000
Speaker 4: it's bad, but it's not Smith Njigma.

607
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Speaker 3: For one eighty every week and thirty points. The Rivers.

608
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Speaker 4: I hate the lump Rogers with these guys, but he's old.

609
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:42,199
Speaker 4: I mean, Flacco, Rogers, Rivers. They they're just gonna take

610
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Speaker 4: those checkdowns, and I think you can be harsh about that.

611
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:48,959
Speaker 4: You know, boys throwing short as sticks or no, you know,

612
00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:51,399
Speaker 4: short average of the target and all the stuff I quote,

613
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:55,359
Speaker 4: you know, and stats up. But the league's changed so much.

614
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Speaker 4: I think they're looking at it like if you're just

615
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Speaker 4: gonna play all this too high and give me lay

616
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 4: up after layup, I'm gonna death by thousand paper cuts

617
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:06,119
Speaker 4: you and just take completions, you know, like I was

618
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 4: taught twenty years ago. They're gonna give you completions.

619
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Speaker 3: To take it. I mean, Brady made a living doing

620
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Speaker 3: that for a long time.

621
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Speaker 2: Take them funny story for you real quick, Rob King

622
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 2: and I did that Steelers Hall of Honor broadcast Sunday

623
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Speaker 2: night and Ben Ben Roethlisberger sat down at the table

624
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Speaker 2: with us for like ten minutes. It was pretty cool.

625
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 2: It was you know, talked great things about Pouncy, about

626
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:29,240
Speaker 2: the organization, about his time in Pittsburgh. But when he

627
00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:31,119
Speaker 2: sat down, you know, he sits down, he puts the

628
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Speaker 2: headset on Ben, how you doing, Congratulations, thanks for taking

629
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Speaker 2: the time, you know, and Kinger goes, Ben, you're looking

630
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 2: in great shape, man, You look you're looking really good here.

631
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Speaker 2: And Ben goes, yeah, but don't think I'm gonna do

632
00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:44,880
Speaker 2: a Philip Rivers and get like without even without even

633
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Speaker 2: teeing them up. Ben goes, yeah, but don't think I'm

634
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:50,920
Speaker 2: doing a Philip back out there. That was funny from Ben.

635
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 3: Same draft class, obviously. Yep.

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Speaker 2: Last what real quick for you. Philip Rivers took his

637
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 2: first NFL snap when the President of the United States

638
00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:03,160
Speaker 2: was sorry, Bill Clinton, I messed that up. I totally

639
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 2: just I screwed that one.

640
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:05,479
Speaker 3: Up, Bill Clinton.

641
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:10,160
Speaker 2: Phillip Rivers took his first college start at NC State

642
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:13,240
Speaker 2: when Bill Clinton was the President of the United States.

643
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:15,639
Speaker 2: That's how long this dude's been playing football. At a highlight, my.

644
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:17,399
Speaker 4: First year a pitt we played against Rivers in the

645
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:18,919
Speaker 4: tandol Bill Clinton.

646
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:21,119
Speaker 2: Bill Clinton was the President of the United States when

647
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Speaker 2: Philip Rivers got his first start at n C State.

648
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:26,720
Speaker 2: Last one, Matt Stick a fork in the Cowboys. They

649
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 2: fall at home Sunday Night Football, thirty four to twenty

650
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:31,359
Speaker 2: six to the Vikings.

651
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and McCarthy might be slightly turning the corner at

652
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:36,640
Speaker 4: least giving so optimism.

653
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know.

654
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 4: Aubrey missed a couple of kicks. Dallas's defense is still

655
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 4: a work in progress.

656
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 2: It is. They're in a better spot, but they've still got.

657
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Speaker 3: I like where the organization is.

658
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:49,320
Speaker 2: They've still got some issues. And yeah, hey, maybe McCarthy

659
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:52,400
Speaker 2: again another one of those teams State sticking with their

660
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 2: quarterback could end up being a benefit to the Steelers

661
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Speaker 2: in April. But we got plenty of time to cross

662
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Speaker 2: that bridge when we get there. There's our laund.

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Speaker 3: Nuggeting two weeks in a row, where Pickens effort.

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Speaker 5: Was you know, no, never wait that's a thing. Yeah, yeah,

665
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Speaker 5: I didn't. I was told I was told best of

666
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Speaker 5: this interesting disinterested.

667
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 2: I was told that was the worst trading NFL history.

668
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 2: It's like people forgot that. Shawn Watson existed. We have

669
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 2: got to get to a break plenty more. I want

670
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Speaker 2: to get into some of the important stuff from Tomlin

671
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Speaker 2: Tuesday this afternoon, some final thoughts from the Steelers victory

672
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Speaker 2: over the Dolphins. As we roll along here in hour

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Speaker 2: number two on the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio on

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Speaker 2: the Steelers Audio Network.

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Speaker 1: You were tuned about Drive on your twenty four to

676
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Speaker 1: seven home of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio.

677
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Speaker 2: A beefy around the NFL segment there, Matt the cover. Yeah,

678
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 2: but Matt is the road narrows the around the league

679
00:29:56,960 --> 00:30:02,160
Speaker 2: gets wider. As the road narrow the conversation gets fatter.

680
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 2: As Uh. That was a beefy segment, but man, we're

681
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 2: we're getting into it. This is a fun time of year.

682
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:10,560
Speaker 2: It's a fun time of year period. You got the

683
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 2: holidays and everything going on. You got the football is

684
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:17,360
Speaker 2: at a fever pitch. College football playoffs starting this weekend.

685
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:19,640
Speaker 2: We'll have some more on that tomorrow as well. But

686
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:20,200
Speaker 2: I didn't want to.

687
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:22,880
Speaker 3: Make sure relevant games as usual.

688
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Speaker 2: It's a good place to be, Yeah, Matt, you know,

689
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:28,760
Speaker 2: you know I'm like as Randy Bauman and has called

690
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:33,880
Speaker 2: me a few times Pittsburgh's foremost mountaineer. Right, A lot

691
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:37,200
Speaker 2: of my happiness, unfortunately lives and dies with WU, which

692
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:39,520
Speaker 2: has been a lot more dying than living over the

693
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:42,400
Speaker 2: last six seven eight years. I say that all the time.

694
00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:44,200
Speaker 2: I'm like, I just want to get to the holidays

695
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:46,600
Speaker 2: and have WVU playing meaningful football again. I just want

696
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:48,360
Speaker 2: to I just want to get to the holidays and

697
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:51,200
Speaker 2: have WV playing meaningful games. In late November is the

698
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 2: Turkey's getting carved.

699
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 3: And easier said and done, easier.

700
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:56,800
Speaker 2: Said than done, and I think this year starting to

701
00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 2: feel a little bit different than last year. Let's see

702
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 2: if they can keep that role. And Sunday in Detroit

703
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:03,239
Speaker 2: and that's where we'll start to turn our focus as

704
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 2: the week rolls along. But with this convoluted week, Matt

705
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:08,960
Speaker 2: I did want to make sure to get to some

706
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 2: of the and we touched on harmon a little bit

707
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 2: with a dam ski, but some of the important injury

708
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 2: updates from Tom today at his at Hish at his

709
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 2: news conference. So nothing new on TJ Watt. I think

710
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 2: we could all expect that, But that's one of those

711
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 2: we'll know when we know when he ends up playing,

712
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Speaker 2: he ends up playing We're probably not going to get

713
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Speaker 2: much of a timeline between then.

714
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Speaker 3: That's just I wouldn't expect an update every five minutes.

715
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:35,479
Speaker 2: Exactly who he's getting closer, who he might go. Oh,

716
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 2: he's not going to go this weekend. It's just going

717
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 2: to be a when he's ready, he's ready. Until then,

718
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 2: we're gonna have to sit and wait. We did touch

719
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Speaker 2: on this, but for those who might have missed it

720
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Speaker 2: when we talked to a dam Ski Derek Harmon, according

721
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Speaker 2: to Mike Tomlin, was quote probably healthy enough to play

722
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Speaker 2: end quote Monday night, but didn't want to force him

723
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Speaker 2: into action without significant reps and as as away with it,

724
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Speaker 2: as and his buzz pointed out to like Mike Tomlin

725
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 2: very confident in his in his wording and his framing

726
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 2: of his availability for Sunday in Detroit, which is huge

727
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 2: against that line.

728
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Speaker 3: Right, Okay, good?

729
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 2: So hopefully, Hey, you aired on the side of caution

730
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Speaker 2: and it paid. Hopefully has worked for you Monday night

731
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Speaker 2: and will hopefully work in terms of his health and

732
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Speaker 2: his status.

733
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Speaker 4: Feel head coach if you lose that game, like you

734
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 4: could have played Harmon, why didn't you?

735
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Speaker 2: In an alternate universe where a chain rushes for one

736
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 2: hundred and twenty yards and two touchdowns, and the Dolphins

737
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 2: possessed the ball for thirty four minutes, you know, and

738
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Speaker 2: they and they win. They win a twenty seven to

739
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Speaker 2: twenty four type whar you down? Game? Yeah, that is

740
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:43,080
Speaker 2: the That is the tightrope that you're walking in the

741
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Speaker 2: National Football League. Well compensated as well, he's well compensated.

742
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 2: Isaac Sayamalu, unsure of his status after he exited the

743
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 2: game with that tricep injury, expects him to be limited

744
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 2: early in the week and then they'll go from there.

745
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 2: Not a lot of shaker there.

746
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Speaker 3: No, that's better than I thought.

747
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 2: That's an one of those I wonder if that was

748
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 2: the Dolphins in the divisional round a month from now,

749
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 2: if Saamalu finishes that, you know, if it's if it's

750
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 2: if it's fourteen to three instead of twenty eight to three. Yeah, yeah,

751
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:14,720
Speaker 2: it's and it's you know, divisional round or wild card round?

752
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 2: Does he end up finishing that game that you maybe

753
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 2: that's kind.

754
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Speaker 3: Of the way Tomlin phrased it, you know, like, yeah.

755
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:22,959
Speaker 2: Much like the Dolphins did with a chain in New

756
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 2: York a.

757
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 3: Weekend, right, like we got this thing locked down.

758
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:25,719
Speaker 2: We got this thing locked up.

759
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 3: His ros are bogging.

760
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 2: We don't need to put him back out there. I'm

761
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 2: hoping that that's the status for Sayamalu.

762
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 4: But there is a ripple effect that, as Buzz mentioned,

763
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 4: you know, like if Pete's not in there and Anderson

764
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 4: has to play left guard and you're the big package,

765
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 4: could kind of go away and you know, correct then

766
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Speaker 4: everywhere else.

767
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:43,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, you take some of your some of your tools

768
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 2: out of the toolbox there, which is certainly not what

769
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Speaker 2: you want. So we'll keep an eye on that as

770
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Speaker 2: we roll along with practice reports throughout the week, beginning

771
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 2: tomorrow on Wednesday. Of course, Nick herbig big one, should

772
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:58,520
Speaker 2: also be limited early this week with a hamstring injury.

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00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:01,239
Speaker 2: According to Mike Tomlin, another We're gonna have to kind

774
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 2: of wait and see. I'll keep and that's a minus

775
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Speaker 2: t J. Watt.

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Speaker 3: That's a I mean of both, maybe of neither, maybe

777
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 3: of one. I don't know.

778
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Speaker 2: And I know that Sunday's game in the grand scheme

779
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 2: of things now is not the end of the world.

780
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 2: It's not a must win for the Steelers any of

781
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 2: that as it relates to the playoff picture. But a

782
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 2: you know, sixty minutes of Jack Sawyer up against Penny

783
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:27,400
Speaker 2: Seoul is not the most ideal matchup for the for

784
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 2: the Steelers defense. And then just what that would mean

785
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:34,120
Speaker 2: for behind you know high Smith and and and Sawyer

786
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 2: as well. You're already thin there without TJ hopefully herbig

787
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:41,799
Speaker 2: you're without getting good. That a big deal, huge deal

788
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:44,840
Speaker 2: on just Pete still in concussion protocol, So wait and

789
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:47,000
Speaker 2: see with him, hopefully you know, the extra week and

790
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:48,840
Speaker 2: he'll be able to you would hope to get.

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00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:50,759
Speaker 3: Back unless it's a terrible one, which I hate.

792
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:54,280
Speaker 2: We just saw CJ. Stroud missed two weeks with concussion protocol.

793
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:56,800
Speaker 3: Usually guys are back by then.

794
00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,800
Speaker 2: Around around this time period, but that's another wait and see.

795
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 2: And then they are still evaluating James Pierre's calf injury.

796
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:07,400
Speaker 3: Okay, so from that, Samuel did well, but you definitely

797
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:09,719
Speaker 3: like Pierre in the mix and depth. And this is

798
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 3: a team that throws the ball really well.

799
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 2: And it was kind of a similar you know, when

800
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:19,839
Speaker 2: Mike tom was asked about Dylan Cook and if he

801
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 2: would start again, and he was kind of uncommittal, and

802
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 2: have to wait and see about Pete's status, and it

803
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 2: was the same thing with as Santa Samuel Junior and

804
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 2: Pierre kind of the we're gonna lean. We're gonna lean

805
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:33,319
Speaker 2: on the division of labor throughout the week and see

806
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:35,439
Speaker 2: how those guys perform and how those guys look.

807
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 4: Now, I wonder if Pete and Cook are both ready?

808
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,800
Speaker 4: Does Cook pass him?

809
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:45,279
Speaker 2: I think that's not crazy after what we saw last night.

810
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:47,319
Speaker 2: I think that's not crazy. If you want to ride

811
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:51,840
Speaker 2: the hot hand, I think that's that's where two weeks

812
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:53,840
Speaker 2: that's where I would lean right now. That's where I

813
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:56,319
Speaker 2: would lean right now as well. Final break here of

814
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Speaker 2: our number two, final thoughts on the Steelers twenty eight

815
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:02,040
Speaker 2: to fifteen victory over the Dolphins. As we close this

816
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:05,240
Speaker 2: thing down on the other side, West Shuler, Matt Williamson,

817
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 2: it's the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers

818
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:08,880
Speaker 2: Audio Network.

819
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:11,320
Speaker 3: You were two weeks.

820
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:13,560
Speaker 1: About Drive on your twenty four to seven home of

821
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 1: the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio.

822
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:27,239
Speaker 2: Down the home stretch here on the Drive on a

823
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:32,240
Speaker 2: victory Tuesday. As we've got just some lass teased across

824
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 2: and eyes to die.

825
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:35,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, too much to squeeze into one show.

826
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 2: Too much to squeeze into one You know you and

827
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 2: I have talked about this thirty segments a week. Sometimes

828
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 2: it feels a little daunting, like when we get to

829
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 2: the middle of June, thirty segments, it would be a

830
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 2: little daunting. Sometimes it's like we could use thirty more

831
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:51,480
Speaker 2: and still wouldn't be still, and still wouldn't be able

832
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:54,359
Speaker 2: to touch you better after and it is always better after

833
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:56,239
Speaker 2: a win without a doubt. And Matt, while we've been

834
00:36:56,239 --> 00:37:00,200
Speaker 2: giving some props, given some flowers, I wanted to had

835
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:03,800
Speaker 2: one more thing on a Sante Samuel Junior. Eleventh different

836
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:06,840
Speaker 2: Steeler with an interception this season on that defense. Wow,

837
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:07,920
Speaker 2: that's impressive.

838
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:09,359
Speaker 3: That is impressive. That's hard to do.

839
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:12,840
Speaker 2: That's a big number. Eleven different guys on that defense

840
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 2: with an interception.

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00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:14,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's now.

842
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 2: I think one speaks to how much they've had to

843
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 2: overturn that secondary.

844
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 3: Right and so they also take the ball away.

845
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 2: How much they take the ball away, and how much

846
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:27,880
Speaker 2: that is a collective group effort. I know you see it.

847
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:28,879
Speaker 2: You know, you and I both like.

848
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:29,239
Speaker 3: I want to.

849
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:31,400
Speaker 4: I don't have my stats in front of me, but

850
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 4: I think this week or last week, En was at

851
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:34,880
Speaker 4: the top of the league.

852
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:37,400
Speaker 2: So now it would be yeah more so. Maybe we'll

853
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 2: revisit that on Thursday when we get into some stats.

854
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:41,920
Speaker 2: But it really drives home for me, you know, you

855
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 2: and I. I'm not down with the facility nearly as

856
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 2: much as I used to be. I'm down there like

857
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:47,880
Speaker 2: one day a week now. Same with you. Yeah, but

858
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 2: we see it at training camp a lot as well,

859
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:52,799
Speaker 2: OTA's Mini camp. The times like that when we are

860
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,440
Speaker 2: around every single day, you see the guys on on

861
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 2: defense all the time. TJ has a bunch of them

862
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 2: because he gets a bunch of them. But these guys

863
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 2: when they get T shirts or when they get takeaways,

864
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 2: they get certain T shirts in the defensive room, and

865
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 2: they say that.

866
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:10,440
Speaker 4: Coln's childish, but it still motivates just competition, right.

867
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Speaker 2: TJ walks in wearing the multi Millionaire T shirt and everyone,

868
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 2: I want that T shirt?

869
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:16,879
Speaker 3: How do I get that?

870
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 2: The one of the shirts that they all wear that

871
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:24,400
Speaker 2: they get It says the culture takeaways, Okay, and I

872
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 2: think that eleven different players with an interception, that's a

873
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:28,840
Speaker 2: culture of takeaways.

874
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:30,399
Speaker 3: I mean every year they're the top of the league

875
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:30,960
Speaker 3: in takeaways.

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00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 4: I mean they're one of the best forced fumble teams

877
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:35,399
Speaker 4: every year, they're obviously the top of league.

878
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 3: Again, in like batted.

879
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:38,920
Speaker 4: Passes which often result and takeaway all goes up in

880
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 4: the air, it's pretty easy to pick, you know.

881
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:43,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, some of these eleven different players have been off

882
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 2: of those.

883
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:47,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, those and it must be ingrained from every coach

884
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 4: on that has to be.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I've been in those rooms.

886
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 4: I wasn't a coach, but the defensive coordinator, the head

887
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:56,399
Speaker 4: coach whoever will just ingrain and to make sure you.

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00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 3: Tell your players.

889
00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 4: Make sure you tell your players, you know, and then

890
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:01,760
Speaker 4: after a while, it's the second nature and rubs off.

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00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:04,239
Speaker 2: It sure does. I remember twenty eighteen, my first year

892
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 2: back here, you know, in my hometown, doing all this

893
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 2: after I had gotten you know, been working for the

894
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:12,720
Speaker 2: Eagles and the Phillies the previous three years in Philly

895
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:15,719
Speaker 2: and then finally got back here in western Pennsylvania on

896
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:18,239
Speaker 2: the right side of the state where I wanted to be.

897
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 2: That twenty eighteen season was the year the Steelers started

898
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 2: seven to and one and then failed to miss the playoffs.

899
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 2: She had no lev Bell that year. He had all

900
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:29,320
Speaker 2: the ab stuff. The Steelers really struggled to take the

901
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 2: ball away. In twenty eighteen, and I remember at the

902
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 2: end of the season when they ended up missing out

903
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:35,880
Speaker 2: on the playoffs that being a massive talking point, and

904
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:38,279
Speaker 2: then getting to OTA's and getting to mini camp and

905
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 2: getting to training camp, and how often you heard the

906
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 2: coaches on the defensive staff screaming about attacking.

907
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:48,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like, as.

908
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:49,880
Speaker 2: You mentioned, there is certainly luck involved. Oh Yase, you

909
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 2: can deflect the pass at the line of scrimmage and

910
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 2: it can go twenty yards backwards and no, that's okay.

911
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:56,320
Speaker 2: It can go six yards backwards and no one's around,

912
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:58,719
Speaker 2: or it can fall right out a TJ Wat's last Yeah.

913
00:39:58,560 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 3: Or it can just fall to empty space.

914
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,920
Speaker 2: But you could you can also coach it up to It's.

915
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 3: Like they said, it's a culture.

916
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:07,720
Speaker 2: It's like playing poker, playing blackjack. Yeah, there's an there's

917
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:10,880
Speaker 2: there's just you know, there's car is. There's an element

918
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:13,319
Speaker 2: of chance to it. But there's also some strategy and

919
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 2: some and some process to give yourself the best chance,

920
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:17,239
Speaker 2: the best odds.

921
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 4: And I think a lot of it starts with pass

922
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:20,759
Speaker 4: rush and you know those type of things too, like

923
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:24,399
Speaker 4: if you're consistently harassing the quarterback ball comes out more.

924
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 2: You know, last one man, We got like three minutes

925
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:29,440
Speaker 2: here and hadn't mentioned him, And I think he just

926
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:31,719
Speaker 2: deserves a shout because he's played really well the last

927
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Speaker 2: couple of weeks but kept it going last night. Man,

928
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 2: I thought Patrick Queen was all over the place, physical, impactful,

929
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:43,759
Speaker 2: consistently see ball, ball near the football.

930
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 4: Disruptive, and anyone thinks he's one hundred percent healthy, he's nuts.

931
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 4: I mean, he's battling some stuff, but he is flying

932
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 4: around probably playing the best football as a Steeler, I

933
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:52,480
Speaker 4: think so.

934
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:52,919
Speaker 3: Yeah.

935
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:57,279
Speaker 4: I mean, I think he's developing into a leader by

936
00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:59,799
Speaker 4: his actions amp and I'm told in terms of locker

937
00:40:59,880 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 4: room and the respect, it's it's a it's a good

938
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 4: situation right now for him. Yeah, I'm glad you brought

939
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Speaker 4: him up.

940
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 2: I just you know, we both we both like jot

941
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:10,759
Speaker 2: down notes and all these different things, and we'll get

942
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 2: to some more and some final stuff. I'm sure that

943
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 2: we'll want to discuss tomorrow. But that was one of

944
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 2: the things I had in here, and I just wanted

945
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 2: to make sure he much like Joey Porter Jr. Much

946
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:23,400
Speaker 2: maligned at the beginning of the season, and I'm not

947
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 2: and I'm not saying that those guys were covering themselves

948
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:31,480
Speaker 2: in pies in the beginning of the season. But that's

949
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:33,759
Speaker 2: that's another That's another motest thing is like, I don't

950
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:36,120
Speaker 2: care when you criticize a guy, just make sure you

951
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 2: praise him with that same kind of energy.

952
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 3: And I think we do that.

953
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:41,919
Speaker 2: I think we do that. A lot of people don't.

954
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 2: You'll you'll dump on JPJ, you'll dump on Patrick Queen

955
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:46,800
Speaker 2: and then when he has a good game, you say nothing.

956
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:48,799
Speaker 2: I just want to make sure that.

957
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Speaker 4: It does then, like, I'm not writing these guys career

958
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 4: exactly stone that this is what they're going to become.

959
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 4: It's what they are, and it's our job to analyze them.

960
00:41:57,120 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 4: And I think you're doing everyone the service if you

961
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:02,879
Speaker 4: don't say what you see. You know, like, oh boy,

962
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:05,439
Speaker 4: he's playing really well. Doesn't mean he didn't play great

963
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:06,399
Speaker 4: in week two or whatever.

964
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Speaker 2: Yeah, right, exactly right. It doesn't mean against Seattle in

965
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 2: week two he was an A plus.

966
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 3: Right on, every game he's been here has not been

967
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:13,880
Speaker 3: as good as.

968
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Speaker 2: These last night these last couple of weeks, when you've

969
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 2: needed him he is. He has delivered, Yes, And I.

970
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Speaker 3: Think they're trending very much the right direction.

971
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Speaker 2: And there's always something to be said for that.

972
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's big Matt.

973
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Speaker 2: Good stuff today, that went fast, quick show Tomorrow Wednesday,

974
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Speaker 2: I know we'll do some normal Wednesday stuff. I do

975
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:33,799
Speaker 2: want to go around campus and talk some quarterbacks and

976
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:36,760
Speaker 2: some college football playoff. But we'll have more from this game,

977
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 2: more around the league, catch up with our buddy Chris Hall,

978
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 2: like all that good stuff that we typically do on

979
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Speaker 2: a Wednesday. But that will do it for us on

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Speaker 2: this Tuesday. Thanks to buzz himself, the buzz Saw, Chris

981
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Speaker 2: Adanski Trivia Extraordinary for joining us. Thanks to Nathan for

982
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:54,719
Speaker 2: producing TV, mister TV, our video producer, for keeping us

983
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 2: crisp and handsome on the YouTube, and to each and

984
00:42:57,239 --> 00:42:59,239
Speaker 2: every one of yin's for rocking and rolling with us

985
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Speaker 2: on this victory Tuesday. For Matt Williamson, I'm we Shouler.

986
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Speaker 2: Take care everybody. We'll talk to you tomorrow. As always.

987
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988
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Speaker 2: four to seven home of the Black and Gold. It's

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Speaker 2: Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers Audio Network.