1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:06,520 Speaker 1: And Martinez in real life podcasts. First of all, thank you, 2 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:09,640 Speaker 1: my pleasure, thanks for having me. No, thank you, because 3 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: you know you do this podcast and you want to 4 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:14,320 Speaker 1: talk to people that you actually you know, I want 5 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 1: to talk to people that I like that, I'm inspired 6 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:20,079 Speaker 1: by that, um and a lot of that that I 7 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:22,240 Speaker 1: feel like I'm going to learn something from the conversation. 8 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:24,320 Speaker 1: And a lot of people at that level are at 9 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:28,640 Speaker 1: very high level who don't do a lot of this 10 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:30,319 Speaker 1: type of thing. I appreciate. I didn't know. I never 11 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 1: knew you liked me. Thanks you stop it, you stop 12 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:38,480 Speaker 1: it right now. I go to every Derek Jeter gala. 13 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 1: I go to the golf tour. I went to the 14 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:43,240 Speaker 1: golf tournament this year. Golf in a little bit. Let's 15 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 1: let's start slowly to take a turn for the worst. 16 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:49,239 Speaker 1: At the beginning, we even maybe a partied once or 17 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 1: twice in the nineties in the streets I tried to 18 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 1: not remember. Come on, it's probably right, You're probably right, 19 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 1: you did. You were not always the quiet. I don't 20 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 1: go in where Derek I saw you outside of this 21 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:06,039 Speaker 1: different world, different world back then, no phones, no phones, 22 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 1: those social media, thank god, those are the good old days. 23 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:13,119 Speaker 1: How are you? How is life? How is new life? 24 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 1: This is a new life for you? It is very 25 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 1: new life. I mean I have three girls. I know, 26 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 1: I see you with a little charm necklaces. All. Yeah, 27 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 1: you know. It's five three and a half and nine months. 28 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 1: The best thing ever, we're gonna get to that. We're 29 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 1: gonna get to that too. So I don't want to 30 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 1: get too fast. I have a lot of questions about 31 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:38,399 Speaker 1: us as dad and family man. So this series of 32 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:41,319 Speaker 1: conversations is about superpowers, right, So I always think about 33 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 1: because what I think is someone's like someone at your 34 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 1: level inspires all of us in different ways. And some 35 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 1: people might think it's your discipline or your work ethic 36 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 1: or and I was thinking about that on the way 37 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 1: in about one of the things that I've always been 38 00:01:55,400 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 1: inspired by you is your like humble confidence. You could talk, 39 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 1: you talk and talk was, but there was always like 40 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 1: a humbleness to it. Is that something you think about 41 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 1: that you create, that that is instilled a new or 42 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 1: is that just like a natural I first of all, 43 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 1: it's a good question. I just never really ever from 44 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 1: a young age, I never really got along with people 45 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 1: that were overly cocky you know, I think you have 46 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:26,240 Speaker 1: to have confidence in anything. That's how you have success. 47 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:28,799 Speaker 1: You have to be very confident. Um. But I was 48 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 1: always just like actions speak louder than words, so um. 49 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 1: And I also, look, I play a sport that's gonna 50 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 1: humble you. You fail, seventy percent of the time, goes on. 51 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:40,399 Speaker 1: Is that the real number? That a real number? Yeah, 52 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 1: I mean I but I had three ten in my career, 53 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 1: so sixty nine percent of the time I failed, and 54 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 1: you go to Hall of Fame, right, So it's a 55 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:50,360 Speaker 1: very humbling sport. So if you're not humble to begin with, 56 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 1: you're gonna learn that lesson early on. So I think 57 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 1: that it's it's more of maybe who I am as 58 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 1: a person. Yeah, but is there ever like a do 59 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 1: you ever cross the line? Dude? Because you went from 60 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 1: the outside, we always you walk that line so perfectly, 61 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 1: But are there are times where you're like the confidence 62 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 1: kicks in a little too extra hard, or the humbleness 63 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 1: maybe hurt you a little bit too much? You know, 64 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:14,520 Speaker 1: I don't you know, I don't think so Anshi, because look, 65 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 1: I played in New York for twenty years, and you 66 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 1: can't fool New Yorkers you know, if if, if you 67 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 1: can try, you may be able to do it for 68 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 1: a year or two, but ultimately they're going to find 69 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 1: out who you are as a person. So I mean, look, 70 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 1: everyone has personalities that I think come out a little 71 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:32,079 Speaker 1: bit more when you're amongst friends. You know, I'm sure 72 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 1: we get on the golf course, it might be a 73 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 1: little bit different. Even though I'm not good at golf, 74 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 1: but you might see another side. I might try to 75 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 1: kick in your head at how is there for you 76 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 1: to not be good at something? There's a lot of 77 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 1: things I'm not good at. Really, I just don't share 78 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 1: it with the world. Is it uncomfortable, No, because I 79 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 1: understand that in order to be good at anything, it 80 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 1: takes time. You don't just wake up and you're good 81 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 1: at something, right. It takes a lot of work. So yeah, 82 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 1: but you there's the thing about you. Even when I 83 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 1: was when I went to a Gulf tournament, I was like, 84 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 1: oh god, I'm so embarrassed. I'm gonna play with people, 85 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 1: and You're like you're going to dominate, And you said 86 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 1: it's so strangly that I actually, like I thought, oh God, 87 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 1: I've been thinking about things wrong, Like do you a 88 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 1: tech everything that way, you gotta have confidence you do. 89 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:19,119 Speaker 1: Even if you know you're not good yet, you still should. 90 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 1: You should still say no, I'm going to dominate you 91 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:23,480 Speaker 1: because you know what I think, in order for you 92 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:25,360 Speaker 1: to grow as a person, you have to put yourself 93 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 1: in uncomfortable situations. Comfort and growth don't go together, right, 94 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 1: You have to be uncomfortable. Um, So dive in. And 95 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 1: no matter how you look at it, everyone's doing something 96 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 1: for the first time, and you could be an expert 97 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 1: at something, there still was a day you did it 98 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:39,920 Speaker 1: for the first time. So I think you just gotta 99 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 1: keep that in mind. I've done it one hundred times 100 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 1: and I'm still I see you, I see it. We'll 101 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 1: get to it, We'll get to Okay. I really want 102 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 1: to be good, Derek, I really do. Do you think 103 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:54,360 Speaker 1: that is what I think that about you? That it's 104 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 1: one of your superpowers? Is that that confidence and that 105 00:04:56,960 --> 00:05:00,160 Speaker 1: humble that combination of humble and confidence at the same time. 106 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:02,479 Speaker 1: That's just my impression of you. But what do you think? 107 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 1: What do you think yours are like? If you had 108 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:06,920 Speaker 1: to think about in life and in your career, also, 109 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:09,600 Speaker 1: what are the things that make you that you're most 110 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:12,160 Speaker 1: proud of about yourself or most unique. I think you know, 111 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 1: in order to be successful in anything you do, you 112 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:19,480 Speaker 1: have to first be passionate about it. If you're not 113 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 1: passionate about it, you're not gonna work at it. You're 114 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 1: not gonna put the time in. It's got to mean 115 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 1: something to you. And I can't make you be passionate 116 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 1: about it. I mean, you talk about playing with teammates, 117 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 1: I can't. I want to win more than anyone, UM, 118 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:35,720 Speaker 1: but I can't make you want to win. You either 119 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 1: have it in you or you don't. UM. So that's 120 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:40,479 Speaker 1: why one thing, you know, talk about having three kids 121 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 1: and and you know, I'm joking with them, now, what 122 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:43,720 Speaker 1: do you want to be when you get older? But 123 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 1: I want them to find the thing that they're passionate 124 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 1: about and I'll be there to support them. But it 125 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:51,920 Speaker 1: all starts with with passion passionate. But the level I'm 126 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 1: talking about, the level that you operate with the greats 127 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 1: operate the Serena, how Serena operates, how Colbe operated, how 128 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 1: Lebron operates. This This like a thing that maybe you 129 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 1: can I'm always fascinated by it. I don't know if 130 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 1: I can particut like, just word it properly. But there's 131 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 1: a there's a calmness. It's like a you're like a 132 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 1: you attack things with you want to win. This is desired, 133 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 1: a strong desire to win. But there's also a calmness 134 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 1: in those moments. I was watching. I just watched in 135 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 1: the car you have three thousand moment, which is like, 136 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 1: it's like you can't you couldn't have written that it 137 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 1: was so great, But to be able to deliver that, 138 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:35,360 Speaker 1: it has to be like you have to go over there. 139 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 1: You have to go out there with a calmness. Right, Yeah, 140 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:42,559 Speaker 1: But I think that preparation, your repetition. You do something 141 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 1: over and over and over and over and over again. 142 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 1: Once you get in that moment, it's not new. You know. 143 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:49,159 Speaker 1: You always hear a lot of times athletes say the 144 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:52,039 Speaker 1: game slows down or it speeds up or speeds up 145 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 1: if you're not prepared. If you're prepared, the game actually 146 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:58,360 Speaker 1: slows down for you. So I've always you know, throughout 147 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 1: my career, any moment I'm in, I've played it over 148 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 1: in my head. I've worked on it. So once you 149 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 1: get in that moment, it's nothing new. So I think 150 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 1: that's what keeps you calm. It's just being prepared. Yeah, 151 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 1: there's times. The thing is that so I'm a very 152 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 1: competitive person person I seen it right. Sometimes it makes 153 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 1: me perform poorly because I want it so bad. If 154 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 1: I'm playing pool and I had a great game it's 155 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 1: the eight Bowl, and I fumble because I'm ready, because 156 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 1: I want to win so bad that I fumbled, I 157 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 1: imagine you do not have that same problem. Well, no, 158 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 1: I look it. If you're going to be good at anything, 159 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 1: it takes time too, and it takes patience. Um. You know, 160 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 1: one thing I always like to ask people that have 161 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 1: been successful is what's your biggest failure along the way? 162 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 1: You know, I think you learned from other people's failures. 163 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 1: People assume you wake up one day and all of 164 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 1: a sudden, here you are. You're in the Hall of 165 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 1: Fame right now. It doesn't work like that. Takes a 166 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 1: lot of years. Um. So I I just think it's 167 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 1: just so much work has to go into it. There's 168 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 1: no magic formul They don't wake up and you're good 169 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 1: at something. You have to have patients along the way. 170 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 1: Even though I don't have a lot of it. I'm 171 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 1: trying to learn patients once again. You know, I've come 172 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 1: from a sport where it's you get a hit or 173 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 1: you don't. You win a game or you don't. Right, 174 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 1: it's instant gratification or failure, and life doesn't work like that. 175 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 1: There's disappointment in that though. You know sometimes in those moments, 176 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 1: like you said, yeah, you disappointment, you learned from it. 177 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 1: And I'm not afraid to fail. I've failed a lot. 178 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 1: You know, you talk about being in big moments. I've 179 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 1: struck out before. Remember any of those. I only remember 180 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:45,079 Speaker 1: the highlight, the highlight. Remember, Yeah, that's what I do. 181 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 1: I just keep feeding your highlight reels. Um. But no, 182 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 1: it's it's it's you can't be afraid to fail. I'm not. 183 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:53,080 Speaker 1: I'm not afraid to fail. People say that, but really 184 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 1: to live that way is really remarkable. But my mind, 185 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:59,200 Speaker 1: I I also believe the last thing you think is 186 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 1: the first thing you do. You go back to golf, Okay, 187 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 1: that down for me. You're golf. Don't hit it left, 188 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:06,559 Speaker 1: don't hit it left, don't hit it left. What do 189 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 1: you do? You hit it left right? So the last 190 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 1: thing you think is the first thing you do, which 191 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:13,200 Speaker 1: is why I didn't like to surround myself with negativity. 192 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:15,320 Speaker 1: I didn't like to read about it. You know, my 193 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 1: mind always before I was in a moment, my mind 194 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 1: would always go back to a time I had success. 195 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 1: Remember in high school, I had a game winning three 196 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 1: point shot sophomore year, and at that point, moving forward, 197 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 1: every big shot I wanted to take it because my 198 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 1: mind went back to the time I made it. Now 199 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 1: I missed a lot of them. Obviously, that's why I 200 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 1: stopped playing basketball after high school. But that's where my 201 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 1: mind went. That's good. So your last thought tell quote, 202 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 1: the last thing you think is the first thing you do, 203 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 1: first thing you do. I'm going to try that. I 204 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 1: go back out of the course. The last thing I 205 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 1: think is the first thing. You still have to have 206 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 1: some talent too, but thanks thanks for that. Well that 207 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 1: comes with work in practice and persistence and dedication and 208 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 1: all the things that you have and all the greatness 209 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 1: that comes with you. Um, I saw something. I love 210 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 1: the dock. It's so good, thank you, because we do 211 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 1: see the fiery side of them. You're always so humble, 212 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:18,679 Speaker 1: you're always so gracious, you always say the right thing. 213 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 1: But I saw a little glimpse of that fire. Inside 214 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 1: the dock. You know what. I was so hesitant. I 215 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:29,200 Speaker 1: wanted no part of doing a documentary because you know, 216 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:33,080 Speaker 1: I just think, one, I I sometimes I think people 217 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 1: are gonna be interested in, right, that's what you think. 218 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 1: But then two, there's some things that you know, there's 219 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 1: still some things I didn't share, right there. There are 220 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:43,559 Speaker 1: things you keep private. And I've said it before. Once 221 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 1: the toothpastes out of the tube, you can't put it 222 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:49,199 Speaker 1: back in. And I, um, it started with I wanted 223 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 1: to to film the potential Hall of Fame call that 224 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:55,560 Speaker 1: help was gonna get and film the induction ceremony, and 225 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:58,199 Speaker 1: it turned into a larger discussion of you know, why 226 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:00,559 Speaker 1: don't we do a documentary on your career? And I 227 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 1: was absolutely not, really absolutely not, because you're gonna have 228 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 1: to talk about this, You're gonna talk about that. I'm 229 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 1: just not gonna do it. And then I said, hey, 230 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 1: you know what, um, somebody may do one at some point, 231 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 1: so you might as well get your story out. And 232 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:18,559 Speaker 1: one thing that I wanted to do was every situation 233 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 1: I was in, or every situation where it was a 234 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 1: perceived conflict, I wanted the other person to be able 235 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 1: to talk about it as well. It was not a 236 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:29,679 Speaker 1: puff piece. I wanted to be open. I wanted to 237 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 1: be honest. I wanted other people to be honest to 238 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 1: how they felt. So, um, I think we're able to 239 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 1: capture it. Yeah, thank you, thank you. So now I'm 240 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:40,680 Speaker 1: happy I I have it for you know, my kids. 241 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 1: At some point to watch. There was a moment that 242 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 1: I was I just told you I just watched the 243 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 1: three thousand hit this morning in the car, and there 244 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:50,840 Speaker 1: was a moment where you, um, everybody's like going crazy 245 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 1: and the signs and the teams and standing up and 246 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 1: like you're quiet, and you come, you're excited. You go 247 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 1: into the dugout it's I'm watching it, and then you 248 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:04,200 Speaker 1: stop yourself. You go back out to the field. And 249 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:08,080 Speaker 1: I just was like, that's really dope. It was like 250 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 1: you were having this moment and you were and people 251 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:12,840 Speaker 1: were in your team with you, within yourself and you 252 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 1: it was like, I don't know what, Maybe I made 253 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 1: this up in my mind, but the way it looked 254 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 1: to me sounds like a good story. It's such a 255 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 1: good story I can narrate from. You should have called 256 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 1: me for the doctor. Did something happen there? Do you 257 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:25,839 Speaker 1: remember that or do you not. I don't remember that 258 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:28,559 Speaker 1: moment in particular, but but I do think a lot 259 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:31,440 Speaker 1: of times when there's a lot going on around, you 260 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:32,840 Speaker 1: have to take a moment. I mean it could be 261 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 1: a second, could be two seconds, could be a thirty second, 262 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 1: could be a minute, but you do need to take 263 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:39,960 Speaker 1: some time for yourself. And I think we talked about 264 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:42,439 Speaker 1: before just slow things down for a minute. Yeah. Well, 265 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 1: I thought about the fact that perhaps you you gave 266 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 1: that to the crowd and you wanted to give them 267 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 1: a moment. And I've seen you just take your fans 268 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 1: into consideration, and I just wonder how much I guess 269 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:57,200 Speaker 1: I'm asking, like, in your career, in your life, how 270 00:12:57,320 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 1: much do you give? How much of what you do 271 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 1: is for out the outside versus for yourself? Well, I 272 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:08,439 Speaker 1: think first it starts with doing things for yourself. I mean, 273 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:10,960 Speaker 1: and what I mean by that is you have a goal, 274 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 1: you have a passion, You set goals and you do 275 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 1: everything in your power to achieve it and then exceed 276 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 1: those goals. But you know, do you do for the fans? 277 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 1: I mean, look, you love to go out there, you 278 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 1: love to compete, but it wouldn't be the same if 279 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:28,320 Speaker 1: there was an empty stadium, right, So you do it 280 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 1: for the fan. You know, New Yorkers they watch everything. 281 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 1: I grew up here, you know, twenty years I played 282 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:36,320 Speaker 1: New York and and um, you know I've said this before. 283 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 1: There there's what is it The Truman Show, that Jim 284 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:42,079 Speaker 1: Carey show on TV. That's how I feel my life 285 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:47,080 Speaker 1: is right because Yankee fans watch every single day. Um. 286 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:48,840 Speaker 1: So you do it for the fans. That's who make it, 287 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 1: you know, that's who makes it special for you. So 288 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 1: New York fans are the best. Yeah, of course they are. 289 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:57,560 Speaker 1: And you've been so gracious always the fans. But I 290 00:13:57,600 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 1: just wondered, just like in real life, leg do you ever, 291 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:05,680 Speaker 1: because sometimes I find myself I do things for the 292 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:08,559 Speaker 1: outside and then sometimes and sometimes it's a battle like 293 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 1: what do I need for me versus what do I 294 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:12,960 Speaker 1: need for the outside? And so I just wonder, in 295 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 1: your career, how much does that have it become a 296 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:16,720 Speaker 1: thing for you, like what you wanted to do for 297 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 1: yourself or what? Ah? You know the thing is is 298 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 1: is what I wanted for myself was the exact same 299 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 1: thing that the fans wanted. So therefore I didn't have it. 300 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 1: There was no conflict, you know what I mean. I 301 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 1: wanted to win. That was the only reason why I played. 302 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 1: That was it. And you know that's all Yankee fans want, 303 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 1: and they want you to win. So therefore, you know, 304 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 1: we had the same agenda. I loved. Um. I read 305 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 1: the quote. I read the letter that you wrote to 306 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 1: Kolbe and the Players Tribune when he passed, and you 307 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 1: said that you know that you hope I don't want 308 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 1: to miss your words, but it was something to the 309 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 1: effect that of the greatest conversations that you've had with Kobe, 310 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 1: they were mostly about family, like the best converse stations 311 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 1: with him, And I just wonder what you could share 312 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 1: about that, what those were. Yeah, I mean we we 313 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 1: I didn't know Kobe that well, right, Um, you were 314 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 1: best friends. Got to know him a little bit more 315 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 1: after I retired, Um, and we did a couple events together, 316 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 1: we worked together with the Tribune, and we never had 317 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 1: a conversation about baseball or basketball. No, it was all 318 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 1: family related. I used to get on him because he 319 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 1: had so many girls right before I started. It was 320 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 1: funny we got another girl, man, Um, and then you know, 321 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 1: here I am with three of my own So it's 322 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 1: just it's it's it's amazing that you remember conversations and 323 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 1: interactions with people. You admire people for what they've done 324 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 1: in their profession, but getting a chance to actually get 325 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 1: to know him is what stands out to me. Not 326 00:15:57,400 --> 00:16:00,120 Speaker 1: what you necessarily do on the basketball corps or a 327 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 1: baseball field, is who you are as a person. I mean, look, look, 328 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 1: I'll be honest with you. Um, you're a Hall of famer. 329 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 1: You mention not the reason why I'm here. No I'm here, 330 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 1: no like I'm about to go do it and no, no, no, 331 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 1: I'm but I'm no, but I'm here because of the 332 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 1: relationship that we have. Who you are as a person, right, 333 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 1: that means more to me than what you were able 334 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 1: to accomplish in your professional career. Thank you. I think 335 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 1: it's easy for people to get lost in that sometimes. 336 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 1: I think you have a strong, amazing family. I haven't, 337 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 1: you know, my mom's amazing what mat raised me. I think, 338 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 1: But I think for some people who get thrown into 339 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 1: such a spotlight, it's not always easy for people to 340 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 1: kind of not get lost in that. I guess, yeah, 341 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 1: you get so focused on having success, get so so 342 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 1: focused on on fame and notoriety. Um, you lose sight 343 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 1: of who you are as a person. That's why it's 344 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 1: so important to people that you have around you. You know, 345 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 1: I've had the same friends for twenty five years. I've 346 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 1: been blessed to have great friends around me, and you know, 347 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 1: I brave about my family all the time. But you know, 348 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:08,160 Speaker 1: you need to surround yourself with people who are gonna, 349 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:10,119 Speaker 1: you know, tell you when you're doing things good, but 350 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 1: more importantly, when you're screwing up. You know, can you 351 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:17,439 Speaker 1: take criticism for your friends? Oh? Yeah, definitely, you know, 352 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 1: I can definitely take criticis a lot of times when 353 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 1: I'm around people I don't really necessarily know. I'll ask 354 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:25,919 Speaker 1: questions or give an idea or an opinion. I know 355 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 1: it's wrong. I just want to see if someone's gonna 356 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:30,280 Speaker 1: I just want to see, Yeah, I just want to 357 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:32,880 Speaker 1: see if someone's gonna just agree with what I said. 358 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 1: I haven't. I will something. I'll tell you how much 359 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 1: time we have, you're gonna do try it once, like 360 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 1: doing this conversation and see if I say the right thing. Everybody, Yes, 361 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:44,159 Speaker 1: if I'm yes, man, you do that you have yes 362 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 1: around you. I don't know, I don't in my close 363 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 1: inner circle. What is the key to picking good friends? Who? Oh? Man, 364 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:58,879 Speaker 1: I don't know if there's a key. I I mean, 365 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 1: you're talking to the wrong person. And I have trust 366 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 1: issues to begin with, you know what I mean. So 367 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:06,159 Speaker 1: my friends that not my closest friend. I don't know. 368 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:09,879 Speaker 1: I most people who have trust issues come from like 369 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:13,120 Speaker 1: Rocky family, or they've been you know, I wouldn't say 370 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 1: necessarily rocky family. I think it's you know, just from 371 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:21,679 Speaker 1: when I was a young when at such a young age, 372 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:25,399 Speaker 1: you know it's in a biracial family, when when it wasn't, 373 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:29,720 Speaker 1: I mean, it wasn't the norm in West Michigan where 374 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:32,439 Speaker 1: I grew up. And you know, just through experiences you 375 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 1: have and people you interact with and you hear things 376 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 1: that were said about you. So I just have always 377 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 1: had trust issues. But my friends, like I said, all 378 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 1: my friends have been around. You know, you come to 379 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:47,240 Speaker 1: the same people, the same friends, um that I've had 380 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:49,960 Speaker 1: for twenty plus years. You're lucky, That's what I mean. 381 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 1: That's a great I've been blessed. That's a super super blessing. 382 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:57,160 Speaker 1: Do you ever see people like we talked about Kobe 383 00:18:57,280 --> 00:19:01,679 Speaker 1: or Serena or do you ever watched are greats and 384 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 1: see similarities in they carry themselves, their performance, they're just 385 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:11,120 Speaker 1: they're keys to life, you know. Do you ever see 386 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:12,879 Speaker 1: do you ever see that? Yeah, there's there's a lot 387 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:17,920 Speaker 1: of similarities I think in mindset, like what setting goals, 388 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:22,160 Speaker 1: you know, no excuses, working harder than everyone else. Um, 389 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:24,960 Speaker 1: you know, but when you're passionate about it's not work, right, 390 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:28,359 Speaker 1: this is what you enjoy. People have different personalities, you know, 391 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:32,679 Speaker 1: but I think ultimately the mindset is the same, you know, 392 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:37,400 Speaker 1: not accepting failure. You learn from your failures because you're 393 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:41,640 Speaker 1: gonna have some along the way, but you don't accept it. Um. 394 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 1: I know. When I was playing I I I would 395 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 1: just look around and watch and you could tell who 396 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:51,920 Speaker 1: it bothers. When you don't win, it's like it's deep too. 397 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:53,920 Speaker 1: It's not just like, oh man, I lost, you know, 398 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 1: it's like get dressed and go home and you're on 399 00:19:57,040 --> 00:20:00,719 Speaker 1: vacation the next day. You know. It's I just had 400 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:07,879 Speaker 1: a real problem with people that didn't strive for excellence, 401 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:09,680 Speaker 1: you know, because you only your care is only so long. 402 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:12,160 Speaker 1: I mean, your career can be a lot longer than 403 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 1: a professional athlete. I played twenty years. That's a long 404 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 1: time for a professional athlete. It goes by quickly, and 405 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 1: you know, it just bothered me when people didn't have 406 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 1: the same passion for it that I did. Did you 407 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:27,199 Speaker 1: take the time to try to change people or do 408 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 1: you take it as that's who they are? There's nothing 409 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 1: I can do about that person. I don't think you 410 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:33,959 Speaker 1: can change them. I've said it before. Just act like 411 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 1: you care, man, Just fake it for three hours. It's 412 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 1: all I gotta do is fake it. Um, But you 413 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 1: know what I mean. But I don't think you can 414 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 1: necessarily change them. As it goes back to what we 415 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:45,119 Speaker 1: said earlier, either means something to you or it doesn't. 416 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:48,159 Speaker 1: I can't make it mean something to you. Don't I 417 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:50,119 Speaker 1: say that, Brittany when I'm like, it's the first thing. 418 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 1: When if I'm interviewing an intern or whatever, It's like 419 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:54,199 Speaker 1: the first thing I look for, and somebody is do 420 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 1: you care? It's like the first thing. I don't. I 421 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:58,480 Speaker 1: don't even care about your resume. I don't care about 422 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 1: what you say. Your goals are like do you care? Yeah, 423 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 1: that's the first thing, because from there you could learn, 424 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:07,159 Speaker 1: you could train, you can do all the things that 425 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:08,680 Speaker 1: you know, you put the work in if you care 426 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:10,760 Speaker 1: about and you can't make somebody care like that, has 427 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:13,920 Speaker 1: they have to come with that. I was watching Serena 428 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:16,400 Speaker 1: the other day and I saw Tiger Woods watching her. 429 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 1: He looked like he was enjoying watching her, which is maybe, 430 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:23,359 Speaker 1: which is why I asked you that question. I wonder 431 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:25,919 Speaker 1: what that's like for like one great to watch another 432 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 1: grade if there's you know, inspiration in that, or of 433 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 1: course you get inspired by other people. It doesn't have 434 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 1: to necessarily be in your own profession. You can be 435 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 1: inspired by someone in a completely different profession, you know. 436 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:39,639 Speaker 1: And I like to watch how people operate. Yeah, now 437 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 1: that's what I mean. That's I'm trying to get to, 438 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:43,119 Speaker 1: like what is what are the things that you like 439 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:47,879 Speaker 1: about the operations of people? For the things that inspire you? 440 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:51,359 Speaker 1: Like what inspires you even now post after baseball? Like 441 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:54,879 Speaker 1: what are you inspired by right now? And you know, 442 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 1: I really I get inspired by And I'm not trying 443 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:03,160 Speaker 1: to sound corny, but coming home, the kids grow up 444 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:06,160 Speaker 1: so quickly, you know, and they have interests and and 445 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:09,400 Speaker 1: you know, I'm I just can't wait to find out 446 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:11,919 Speaker 1: what it is that they want to do, so I 447 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 1: can support them. But if they don't have that, there's 448 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 1: no way they're not going to have the Jeter drive. 449 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:19,639 Speaker 1: There's no way, right you could, well, what if your girls? 450 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:23,639 Speaker 1: What if one of your girls was like yeah, just no, 451 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 1: not really. My youngest is nine months so I'm still 452 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:30,239 Speaker 1: picture any little time to figure out. But but the 453 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:33,920 Speaker 1: other two, no, they have dry I mean they race 454 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:37,200 Speaker 1: to who puts the seatbelt on first in the back seat, 455 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:39,960 Speaker 1: and and and it's like a meltdown if they lose, 456 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So it's always did I'm 457 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 1: responsible for it? I feel bad. I feel bad. I 458 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 1: told the story yesterday. Actually, so my um oldest was 459 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 1: taking tennis lessons and she just turned five, So she 460 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:56,199 Speaker 1: was taking tennis lessons when she was four. Now you 461 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 1: can only keep the attention span for twenty minutes before 462 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 1: she's starts drawn on the court, right, and um, we're 463 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:05,159 Speaker 1: telling heyone there, are you ready to go to practice? 464 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 1: She's like, I don't want to go to practice. I 465 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 1: was like, all right, if you don't want to play tennis, fine, 466 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:09,919 Speaker 1: you know, we'll find something else you want to do. 467 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 1: She said, well, I don't have to go to practice. 468 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 1: I already know how to play just four years old. 469 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:22,920 Speaker 1: I'm like, this is my fault, I know. I feel bad. Wow. 470 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:25,680 Speaker 1: How exciting though to see what they become? Yeah, so 471 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 1: so I I get inspired by them seriously, And I'm 472 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 1: not I'm not trying to sound corny. Did you know 473 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:34,960 Speaker 1: nothing corny about that? Did you have m because you 474 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:39,359 Speaker 1: decided by the way you were young? You know, you 475 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:42,159 Speaker 1: were like the bachelor in New York. You know, you 476 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:45,160 Speaker 1: were ever if you dated anybody or went out with anybody, 477 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 1: was like a thing for many years. But you chose 478 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 1: to wait till this time in your life to become 479 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:54,120 Speaker 1: till after you finished baseball to become you don't get 480 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 1: married and have a family. I didn't meet the right one. Yeah, yeah, 481 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:03,080 Speaker 1: that's thank you. Thank you. Make sure that makes it 482 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 1: in this show. Um, yes I was. You know that 483 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:10,119 Speaker 1: and send it there you go. No, you know the 484 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 1: thing is, though, I it would not have been fair 485 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 1: to anyone, to to my wife if I met her 486 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:20,239 Speaker 1: ten years ago, because I was way too selfish. What 487 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:22,639 Speaker 1: I mean by that is everything was about my career, 488 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 1: you know, and everything was about performing on the field, 489 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 1: and I don't think it would have been fair to 490 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 1: my significant other or kids. I would have um, just 491 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 1: knowing my mindset, I've always been jealous of players um 492 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:38,720 Speaker 1: that have had kids during their career. Kids are in 493 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 1: the clubhouse, on the field. I mean my girls tonight 494 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:44,440 Speaker 1: the first time we're going to be on the field 495 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 1: of Yankee Stadium. UM. So I'm jealous of that. But 496 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:50,119 Speaker 1: I just couldn't have. I couldn't have done it. But 497 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 1: do you have to make that choice and switch? Like, 498 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:55,320 Speaker 1: because even you say that, you know, even the doc 499 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:56,919 Speaker 1: I was seeing you say how it may be a 500 00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:59,680 Speaker 1: character flow, but you cut people off if they disappoint 501 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:03,160 Speaker 1: you or they some you know whatever, if the loyalty 502 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:05,160 Speaker 1: is if you don't trust them, and you cut people off. 503 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:09,439 Speaker 1: But as a husband and as a dad, there's a 504 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:13,479 Speaker 1: vulnerability that you put yourself into. It's different. Your kids 505 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 1: are going to when their teenagers, they are going to 506 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 1: do things that's going to infuriate you. Yeah, I'm sure 507 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 1: they do things now that infuriate But you get through it. 508 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:26,359 Speaker 1: You get through it, I tell you, And it's it is. 509 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:29,160 Speaker 1: It's it's so much fun, it really is. I keep 510 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 1: asking people, as they get easier, as they get older, 511 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 1: don't doesn't. So my Nichols in college nineteen doesn't get easier. 512 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:40,239 Speaker 1: Worried every day is good, you know, bigger problems as 513 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 1: they get older, for sure. Is they're going to pick 514 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:45,119 Speaker 1: the right people? Is you know, you just want to 515 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 1: be present. I want to be present, which is another 516 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 1: reason why it would not have been fair. Yeah. I 517 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:53,200 Speaker 1: don't consider it to have been fair because my parents 518 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 1: were always present, you know, until I got in high 519 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 1: school and I started really playing summer ball like sports 520 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:02,160 Speaker 1: an hour complete different than when I grew up. Um. 521 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 1: You know, I played twelve baseball games a year until 522 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 1: I was almost in high school. You know, now you 523 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:10,160 Speaker 1: have kids playing sixty seventy. My nephew plays sixty games 524 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:12,639 Speaker 1: a year, you know what I mean. Um, So I 525 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 1: always had one of my parents present at everything we did, 526 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 1: you know, whether they split up, go to my sister's 527 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:20,920 Speaker 1: softball game, when we go to my sister's game, when 528 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:23,280 Speaker 1: we come to my literal league game. Um, whether it 529 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 1: was school plays or school events, one of my parents 530 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:31,720 Speaker 1: was always there, if not both. So I always wanted 531 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 1: to be president from my kids from Instagram, it seems 532 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 1: like you really are Instagram. It's the indication of what 533 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:44,360 Speaker 1: kind of girl dad you are. You're doing a fantastic job. Yeah, 534 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:46,440 Speaker 1: I appreciate you talking about another one I didn't want 535 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 1: to do with social media, you know, I swore on 536 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:51,240 Speaker 1: that one I would never do it as well. But 537 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:53,720 Speaker 1: you know, I get it. You know you have a 538 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 1: lot of projects. I have a lot of things that 539 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:57,399 Speaker 1: I'm interested in. You want to share with with with 540 00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:02,119 Speaker 1: the world, and so, yeah, I never thought, how are 541 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 1: you feeling about it? How's it going? It's it's a 542 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:08,480 Speaker 1: weird beast. Um. Yeah, I'm trying to trying to see. 543 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 1: I don't even know if I can articulate it. It's um. 544 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:15,640 Speaker 1: I just never thought, Okay, it doesn't cross my mind 545 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 1: when I'm doing something to take a picture and capture 546 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 1: it and share it with everyone. But that's not the 547 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:24,520 Speaker 1: first thing that comes to mind. Um. But I I'm 548 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:27,120 Speaker 1: learning and I want to share some of the projects 549 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:30,440 Speaker 1: that I'm involved with post career. I want to share 550 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 1: that with people. How do you? Because I know you 551 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,200 Speaker 1: have we'll talk about some might as well talking about 552 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:35,880 Speaker 1: it now, But some of these projects, how does that 553 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:39,320 Speaker 1: I don't know. Do you still have is it that 554 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:44,200 Speaker 1: same eager eagerness to win? Yeah? That you put into 555 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:46,879 Speaker 1: these projects, no question. I mean it's all about you. 556 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:49,119 Speaker 1: Get asked quite a bit about Okay, some of the 557 00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:53,199 Speaker 1: difference between professional sports and business. Same thing. They have 558 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:57,440 Speaker 1: to have great team that you as aggressively, um, concerned 559 00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:02,000 Speaker 1: about winning. Yeah. Really you have to be you know, 560 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 1: you have to be I. You gotta pay attention to 561 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 1: your competition, regardless of what it is. Competition eliminates complacency. 562 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 1: That's what I like to say. And and um, you know, 563 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 1: whether it's in business or in sports, the same thing. 564 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 1: You find out who your competition is and you want 565 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,880 Speaker 1: to beat them. What do you Let's let's talk about 566 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:24,480 Speaker 1: So let's talk about one of them, the greatness. Greatness wins. Yeah, 567 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:28,840 Speaker 1: Greatness wins is clothing line. It's more than well, it's 568 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:34,160 Speaker 1: an athletic apparel. Athletic, yes, greatness wins. Greatness wins. See. UM, 569 00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:37,520 Speaker 1: My thing is I've had great relationships throughout my career. 570 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:41,240 Speaker 1: Obviously you were athletic apparel. So I think any time 571 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:45,360 Speaker 1: that you've had long term relationships and you're passionate about it, 572 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 1: do you try to think about, you know, what are 573 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 1: some of the things that I could do differently right? 574 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:52,400 Speaker 1: And what are some of the things that I would do. 575 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:55,120 Speaker 1: I think it would be better. And we launched Greatness 576 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:58,240 Speaker 1: Wins a couple of months ago. And you know, the 577 00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 1: way I like to look at it is two things. 578 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 1: One is people talk about greatness they think it's an 579 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:06,520 Speaker 1: ultimate goal. I don't think it's a goal. I think 580 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 1: it's a mindset, right. I think you have to have 581 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 1: a mindset um. And it doesn't necessarily have to be 582 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 1: in sports. You know, it can be an everyday life, 583 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:18,200 Speaker 1: working out, staying healthy. You know everyone thinks they're an athlete, right. 584 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:21,920 Speaker 1: You know we we both think we're golfers. Well see 585 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:25,040 Speaker 1: I dragged myself into that. We both think we're golfers, right, 586 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:28,720 Speaker 1: So so I know you are. I'll keep telling yourself. 587 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:31,640 Speaker 1: See I told you you're you're gonna dominate. Yes, yes, 588 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:35,120 Speaker 1: you can dominate. So we started the brand based on 589 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 1: first of all, performance. We want performance, apparel um, consistency, fit, sustainability, comfort, um. 590 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 1: So it's it's exciting. We brought in Misty Copeland design 591 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:49,360 Speaker 1: the female line, Yes, the women's line that's gonna come 592 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:54,680 Speaker 1: out next spring, I believe. Yeah. So you have the 593 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 1: same drive about it like I do. Yeah, I do. 594 00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:00,320 Speaker 1: Because anytime you put your name on something, you to 595 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 1: be successful, and if it's not, they're going to say 596 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:06,200 Speaker 1: you didn't succeed. So can you coach us regular folks 597 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 1: greatness on that on what that is? No, because I 598 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:12,920 Speaker 1: didn't interview with Mike Tyson the other day and he 599 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:14,880 Speaker 1: told me that I needed to. This is his advice 600 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:18,360 Speaker 1: to me. I needed to talk more ship. I needed 601 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:20,120 Speaker 1: to be like I needed to talk to my ship. 602 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:22,200 Speaker 1: I needed to be my own hype person. I needed 603 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:24,880 Speaker 1: to be like h. So he started doing it for me. 604 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 1: You are this. He started telling me listen and not 605 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:31,320 Speaker 1: repeating it. Yeah, And it didn't really suit me, like 606 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 1: not my personality. But I understand. Yeah, but you can 607 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:38,720 Speaker 1: do it internally. You don't have to vocalize it. I mean, okay, 608 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:41,240 Speaker 1: talk to myself all the time. What do you think 609 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:45,200 Speaker 1: I'm not going to tell you. There is one thing, um, Derek, 610 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:47,400 Speaker 1: you did you say, Derek? Do you call yourself Derek? 611 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:50,480 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know if it's that formal. I 612 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:55,160 Speaker 1: don't think it's that formal. Accounts Derek Cheater. Yeah, yeah, yeah, No, 613 00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 1: I think it's just it's just it's it's just repeating 614 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 1: it like I said, I think your mindset is what's 615 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,760 Speaker 1: most important, you know. I think that that that is 616 00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:08,760 Speaker 1: how you have success. I think when you start doubting yourself, 617 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:11,000 Speaker 1: that's when you have a problem. You have a real problem. 618 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:14,800 Speaker 1: So it's almost just reinforcing yourself that, hey, look, you 619 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:17,800 Speaker 1: know you're gonna succeed here. It's not a question. You're 620 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,280 Speaker 1: gonna succeed. And if you don't, you deal with it afterwards. 621 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:22,720 Speaker 1: What you don't do the last thing you think is 622 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:26,560 Speaker 1: the first thing. Yeah, so it's just constant reinforcement. Okay, 623 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:28,920 Speaker 1: I'm gonna talk to myself more. There you go in 624 00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:31,360 Speaker 1: this positive way. I really don't think I ever did that. 625 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:34,520 Speaker 1: I think I was driven. I think it was just drive. 626 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:36,520 Speaker 1: I just love what I did. I have a natural 627 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:39,960 Speaker 1: curiosity about people and things. And then later as I 628 00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:42,760 Speaker 1: my career started growing, then I started developing that, like 629 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:47,400 Speaker 1: that competitiveness. I was always competitive in games and things 630 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:49,000 Speaker 1: like that, but in terms of my career, it wasn't 631 00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:52,840 Speaker 1: until later that I um learned to kind of develop that. 632 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 1: But I never really got I don't want to say arrogance, 633 00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:01,640 Speaker 1: but that I was missing offidence. But you have inner confidence. 634 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:04,240 Speaker 1: I don't believe I'm arrogant at all. Yeah, No, I 635 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:08,280 Speaker 1: don't think you're arrogant at all. No, But I'm confident always, 636 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:12,960 Speaker 1: never doubts any will. I look like I talk about 637 00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:17,440 Speaker 1: uncomfortable situations. Everyone putting thrust it in an uncomfortable situation. 638 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:19,720 Speaker 1: And then yeah, you have doubts. But I think the 639 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:23,080 Speaker 1: more you do it, the more comfortable you get. Um. 640 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,560 Speaker 1: So yeah, there's there's always times you're doing something for 641 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:29,440 Speaker 1: the first time, you know, and that's it. That's the 642 00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:32,360 Speaker 1: only time it's really fascinating. That's not the average person. 643 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:36,760 Speaker 1: Just so you're okay, So I'll give you one, okay. Um. 644 00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:40,000 Speaker 1: When I was younger, my biggest fear right, well, first 645 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:41,880 Speaker 1: of all, my biggest fear in life is being unprepared. 646 00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:45,240 Speaker 1: That's my biggest Yes, my biggest fear is being unprepared. 647 00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:48,880 Speaker 1: But I hated speaking in front of people. If we 648 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:54,680 Speaker 1: had school reports, we had to do um presentations, we'd 649 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:56,600 Speaker 1: have to do my parents would make me do it 650 00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:58,600 Speaker 1: in front of them the night before, and I was 651 00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:01,440 Speaker 1: scared to death even in that in the house to 652 00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:03,240 Speaker 1: do it in front of my parents, and I mean 653 00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:06,240 Speaker 1: I would be sweating for two weeks and and now, 654 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:08,880 Speaker 1: who would have thought. You know, you go to Yankee Statum, 655 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:12,479 Speaker 1: you address fifty people, you know, or you do speaking 656 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:15,360 Speaker 1: engagement and you have thousands of people, and you know, 657 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:18,960 Speaker 1: I don't get nervous anymore. You don't ever know. I mean, 658 00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:23,080 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't. No, I think you know. It's 659 00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:26,120 Speaker 1: it's it's funny because people ask about nerves and and 660 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:27,800 Speaker 1: you know you're playing a big game, and they say, 661 00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:30,080 Speaker 1: are you nervous? And not not nervous? You know, I 662 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:33,560 Speaker 1: get butterflies, which means you care, you want to have butterflies. 663 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,320 Speaker 1: But I'm not nervous, like okay, what's gonna happen? You know, 664 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:40,400 Speaker 1: But you get butterflies, and I always get butterflies. You 665 00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:43,560 Speaker 1: just do it anyway. You just win anyway. No, No, 666 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:46,880 Speaker 1: I just look lost a lot. You wouldn't you would 667 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:52,960 Speaker 1: more in my highlight really went always the highlights. I 668 00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:55,160 Speaker 1: love this for a line. It's a great title, it's 669 00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:58,040 Speaker 1: a great name. Um. There was something you were talking 670 00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:00,320 Speaker 1: about in the dock, going back to your kids and 671 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:03,160 Speaker 1: about the choice to whether it's a choice or however 672 00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:05,120 Speaker 1: it landed in your life and it happened clost to 673 00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:08,879 Speaker 1: your career, your baseball career. They never got to They 674 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:11,320 Speaker 1: don't know you as a They never got to see 675 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:16,560 Speaker 1: you in hit your three thousand, or win a championship, 676 00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:21,080 Speaker 1: or they never saw you in your baseball greatness. Um, 677 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:23,839 Speaker 1: they only get to see the highlight reels. Is that 678 00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:26,680 Speaker 1: I don't know? Is that a weird thing for you? 679 00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:30,520 Speaker 1: Do you do you almost like teach your kids about that. 680 00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:35,920 Speaker 1: I almost like the fact that that's a side that 681 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:39,760 Speaker 1: they don't know. Really I do, Yeah, I I because 682 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:44,560 Speaker 1: I want them to look at me as as you know, 683 00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:47,759 Speaker 1: who I am when I'm at home every day, you know, 684 00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:52,120 Speaker 1: And and they never had the experience. I mean, they 685 00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:58,080 Speaker 1: retired my number at Yankee Stadium. Hannah was pregnant with Bella. 686 00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:01,960 Speaker 1: That's the only time I mean she was there. Obviously 687 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:03,520 Speaker 1: she wasn't born yet. But they haven't been in the 688 00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:07,640 Speaker 1: Yankee Stadium. So they've seen a couple of highlights because 689 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:10,319 Speaker 1: you know, some of the documentary footage and they'll just 690 00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:12,439 Speaker 1: say daddy and then they'll turn around and start doing 691 00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:18,520 Speaker 1: something else. So yeah, yeah, exactly. Um, so I'm almost 692 00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:22,960 Speaker 1: I about that. No, No, not at all, not at all. 693 00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:25,400 Speaker 1: Any regrets at all, by the way of anything in 694 00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:28,319 Speaker 1: your life. Um, I don't. I don't think. I don't 695 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:30,360 Speaker 1: think you can sit here and say you have regrets 696 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:32,600 Speaker 1: because I think even mistakes that you made, I think 697 00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:35,359 Speaker 1: it helps shape who you are. Someone said, if I'd 698 00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:38,440 Speaker 1: go back and change anything, what I would do is 699 00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:43,200 Speaker 1: is my last season, I kept a journal um every day. 700 00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:45,040 Speaker 1: It was like one sentence, two cents, and that wasn't 701 00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:47,759 Speaker 1: even necessarily about anything to happened in the game, just 702 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:50,560 Speaker 1: how I was feeling at the time. And I wish 703 00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:53,359 Speaker 1: I would have done that my entire career because there's 704 00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:55,160 Speaker 1: so many things that you forget. One of the great 705 00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:57,640 Speaker 1: things about doing the documentary was to get a chance 706 00:35:57,680 --> 00:35:59,680 Speaker 1: to reflect on my career, and there's so many things 707 00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:03,520 Speaker 1: for it about Like they interviewed North I think ninety 708 00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:06,760 Speaker 1: people for this documentary, and unfortunately all of them weren't 709 00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:10,479 Speaker 1: in it because you know, there's seven episodes and there's 710 00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:13,080 Speaker 1: a lot of footage there and people remember stories and 711 00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:16,040 Speaker 1: you know, you forget about it. So I wish I 712 00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:18,520 Speaker 1: would have done that. Yeah, that would have been It 713 00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:20,120 Speaker 1: would have been great for us too, because maybe one 714 00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:22,880 Speaker 1: day you could have made that a book. All the 715 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:26,000 Speaker 1: inner thoughts. Yeah, I don't think I'll be around for 716 00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:29,240 Speaker 1: that to come up later. We have, like Quincy Jones 717 00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:33,560 Speaker 1: there anymore, But you just spill it all at some point. 718 00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:37,640 Speaker 1: That's an exciting time, I'm sure. So what's next? So 719 00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:39,640 Speaker 1: what does does your Because we talk a lot about 720 00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:43,600 Speaker 1: purpose on this podcast, like I would imagine what your 721 00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:46,640 Speaker 1: purpose was maybe in your twenties, what you thought your 722 00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:50,040 Speaker 1: purpose was in life has probably shifted. But do you 723 00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:57,600 Speaker 1: think about that? Um? Ah No, I don't from that, 724 00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:02,440 Speaker 1: you know. Really, I my my number one priority, I 725 00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:07,920 Speaker 1: should just say, is taking care of my family, you know, 726 00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:13,400 Speaker 1: and that's that's. Um It's like I said, my oldest 727 00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:18,920 Speaker 1: just turned five, and priorities change. You know. You're always 728 00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:20,719 Speaker 1: hear people say, oh wait, you have your own kids, 729 00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:22,960 Speaker 1: and I was the one that, you know. I when 730 00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,719 Speaker 1: people run into people, they pull out their phone tries 731 00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:27,800 Speaker 1: to show me pictures of their kids. I had zero 732 00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:32,400 Speaker 1: interests none. I have no interest. Yeah, no interest in 733 00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:35,120 Speaker 1: seeing anyone else's kids. And now I'm that person I 734 00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:37,520 Speaker 1: pull out my phone and show my kids. Everything changed, 735 00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:43,240 Speaker 1: so I would of course, yeah, I will roll the masks. Okay, okay, 736 00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:45,799 Speaker 1: I would be happy about that. Really, So you don't 737 00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:48,799 Speaker 1: think about that never have like my purpose in life, 738 00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:52,040 Speaker 1: never had those thoughts. Purpose in life is just to 739 00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:54,120 Speaker 1: be a good person. I think that's that's what I 740 00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:55,880 Speaker 1: try to do. You know. I treat people how I 741 00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:57,759 Speaker 1: want to be treated. You know. I try to be 742 00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:02,120 Speaker 1: respectful to everyone. I think. You know, as you know, 743 00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:05,000 Speaker 1: sometimes in life, when you have some sort of success, 744 00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:09,000 Speaker 1: you're giving a platform, and once you're giving that platform, 745 00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:11,839 Speaker 1: you try to elevate others alongside you. So I try 746 00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:15,400 Speaker 1: to give as many people opportunities that I can, whether 747 00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:20,040 Speaker 1: it's in business, um, in life. I'm trying to support 748 00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:22,560 Speaker 1: as many people as I could through the Foundation. You know, 749 00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:26,200 Speaker 1: I just think it's it's it's almost your duty to 750 00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:29,000 Speaker 1: do so. Yeah, No, you guys do amazing. Shout out 751 00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:31,600 Speaker 1: to Charlie by the way, who's always keeps me in 752 00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:34,480 Speaker 1: the loop that's happening with the Foundation, and it's really 753 00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:37,839 Speaker 1: lovely to see it. Inspiring to see what you guys do. There. 754 00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:40,000 Speaker 1: I know the Galops coming up. I'll be there, get 755 00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:44,160 Speaker 1: my offit together. There you go in the theme of 756 00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:49,120 Speaker 1: Superpowers as we like wrapping um, is there any like 757 00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:53,399 Speaker 1: something that you see a trait or a character in 758 00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:56,040 Speaker 1: that you admire when you see it in other people 759 00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:58,840 Speaker 1: that you don't necessarily have for yourself, like a superpower 760 00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:01,040 Speaker 1: that somebody else has, A kind of wish. I wish 761 00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:06,520 Speaker 1: I was more like that. Um Man, that's a very 762 00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:12,000 Speaker 1: good question. I've been asked a question characteristic that someone has, 763 00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:19,400 Speaker 1: um I would man, I would say people's ability to 764 00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:26,200 Speaker 1: be so comfortable in certain situations, Like I'm very comfortable 765 00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:30,120 Speaker 1: around people I know, right, but you get into it 766 00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:34,480 Speaker 1: just takes me so long to get comfortable with people. 767 00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:37,880 Speaker 1: So I maybe it's don't maybe it's some more of 768 00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:43,399 Speaker 1: an outgoing personality, right, but that's that's not not who 769 00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:46,520 Speaker 1: I am. That way with my friends and family, but 770 00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:48,440 Speaker 1: until I know you, I won't be that way. So 771 00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:51,160 Speaker 1: I've always admired people that are so comfortable and not 772 00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:53,200 Speaker 1: even saying comfortable in your own skin, very comfortable in 773 00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:58,279 Speaker 1: my own skin, but just comfortable love enough to let 774 00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:04,359 Speaker 1: your guard down. But that's this is not who I am. 775 00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:07,759 Speaker 1: Is it exhausting? Though? Sometimes to be like you can't 776 00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:10,480 Speaker 1: put your guard down doesn't get get tiring sometimes, No, 777 00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:12,239 Speaker 1: because that's who I am. It's not like I just 778 00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:16,360 Speaker 1: put it up, you know, a few weeks ago. It's 779 00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:18,000 Speaker 1: just by the way. I say that with no judgment 780 00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:21,080 Speaker 1: because I probably in the same way I tend to 781 00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:24,920 Speaker 1: be guarded. Yeah, it's a good thing. I'm big on boundaries. Yeah, 782 00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:26,480 Speaker 1: I think it's I think that's a good thing. I 783 00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:29,279 Speaker 1: don't necessarily think it's a bad thing. Yeah, alright, So 784 00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:34,480 Speaker 1: what else do people need to know? We have the line? Um? 785 00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:38,160 Speaker 1: What is the future? I mean, what is the the future? Like? 786 00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:40,920 Speaker 1: What do you care about looking forward with? Yeah? I mean, 787 00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:43,040 Speaker 1: you know, I get asked quite a bit and you know, 788 00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:47,400 Speaker 1: are you gonna do something else in baseball? Um? I 789 00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:51,560 Speaker 1: don't know. You know, I'm sure I'll do something. Um. 790 00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:55,080 Speaker 1: You know. I I had the chance through ownership in 791 00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:59,640 Speaker 1: in front office to be exposed to another side of 792 00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:01,480 Speaker 1: the game. And I think people are always so quick 793 00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:03,319 Speaker 1: to say the other side. I just look at it 794 00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:06,759 Speaker 1: as another side of the game. So I think there's 795 00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:09,520 Speaker 1: experiences and there's knowledge that I've that I've gotten, and 796 00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:13,520 Speaker 1: whether I share it with individual players, group of players, 797 00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:18,160 Speaker 1: an organization, or directly with the fans, I still want 798 00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:20,799 Speaker 1: to be involved with the game because I love the game. 799 00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:22,680 Speaker 1: You still I do? I do. I love the game. 800 00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:26,399 Speaker 1: Do you watch it a little? Yeah? I do? Now 801 00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:30,319 Speaker 1: I do now more highlights, you know, because I got 802 00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:31,880 Speaker 1: a lot going on in the house. You know. I mean, 803 00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:33,960 Speaker 1: I go to sleep at seven thirty eight o'clock now 804 00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:37,880 Speaker 1: I do. It's sad, It's really sad. It's sad to 805 00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:40,040 Speaker 1: say I'm up early, but yeah, I go to sleep 806 00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:43,439 Speaker 1: very early. Um. Put you, I'll do something in the game. 807 00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:47,040 Speaker 1: We would love to see that. That would be see 808 00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:49,040 Speaker 1: that would be something for the fans. They would love that. 809 00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:52,000 Speaker 1: Thank you so much, of course, thanks for having me 810 00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:55,239 Speaker 1: all that in real life. That's your real life. Yeah, 811 00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:01,760 Speaker 1: thank you, thank you, thank you, Giles, thank you everything.