1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:04,400 Speaker 1: Let's get to Ellen Walt, president of Transversal Consulting, Ellen, 2 00:00:04,440 --> 00:00:07,760 Speaker 1: thank you for joining us. He's doing this, he's taking 3 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 1: my crewed out of the Strategic Petroleum Reserve. And the 4 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 1: thing is about that that that surely is only a 5 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 1: short term solution for this. Exactly, it's it's entirely a 6 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:24,079 Speaker 1: short term solution. And the move today to basically UM 7 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 1: do another fifteen million barrel release, and as I understand it, 8 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:32,560 Speaker 1: that's actually the final release of them on eighty million 9 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 1: barrel barrel release that was introduced last March, and that 10 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 1: what they're doing is just extending this particular release to 11 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:45,520 Speaker 1: December instead of doing it in October. So basically they're saying, 12 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 1: we're not going to complete the releases before the November 13 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 1: midterm elections. We're going to complete them after. Who doesn't 14 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 1: coincide with the introduction of OPEQUE plus this new UM 15 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 1: two million barrel per day cuts, so UM, I think 16 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 1: it may kind of often the impact of that. But 17 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:07,480 Speaker 1: like you said, this is a temporary fixed because the 18 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:10,959 Speaker 1: United States cannot continue to play, you know, swing producer 19 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:15,279 Speaker 1: with its SPR because it will be drained at some point. 20 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:20,680 Speaker 1: And the SPR was never intended as a method of 21 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 1: uh stabilizing oil prices. It was intended as to be 22 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 1: an emergency reserve of oil in the event of an emergency, 23 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:32,679 Speaker 1: and this is not an emergency. This is just prices 24 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:35,760 Speaker 1: are too high for our comfort level. Well, but also 25 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 1: we're three weeks out from a midterm election, and I 26 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 1: think the administration is extremely sensitive to that, especially after 27 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 1: it was caught a bit flat footed by this production 28 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 1: cut put in place by OPEK. Plus let's look forward, though, Ellen, 29 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 1: we heard a couple of weeks back that the administration 30 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 1: was at least open to the possibility of trying to 31 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: find a way to bring Venezuelan crewed back to the market. 32 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 1: Do you think that is likely? I really don't see 33 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 1: that as any kind of legitimate possibility, because, first of all, 34 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 1: the administration's planned to depend on a basically political one 35 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 1: eight in Venezuela, which I don't see as as any 36 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 1: kind of likely option here. But also Venezuelan crew the 37 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 1: Venezuelan oil industry is basically in an incredibly incredible state 38 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 1: of disrepair, and the amount of investment and time and 39 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 1: money and expertise that will be required to really get 40 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 1: it back to a level where it can make an 41 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 1: impact globally, is much further out than the Mintum elections 42 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 1: are even a potential second term for the Biden administration. 43 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:47,799 Speaker 1: He's the White House. Also, Joe Biden taking a swipe 44 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 1: at oil companies too. Yeah, this seems like a particularly 45 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 1: odd policy at a time when you're act that the 46 00:02:56,600 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 1: administration's claims they're trying to incentivize oil company is to 47 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 1: produce more oil. They said that they're going to they 48 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 1: want to begin, uh, you know, re repurchasing oil for 49 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:10,119 Speaker 1: the spr when prices are between I think sixty seven 50 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:13,119 Speaker 1: and seventy two dollars barrel, and that's supposed to somehow 51 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 1: incentivized oil companies. I'm not really sure how that's an incentive, 52 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 1: because oil companies could sell that oil on the market 53 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 1: for much higher price. But continuing to brate oil companies 54 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 1: for how they're doing business is really not an effective 55 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 1: way of um incentivizing your domestic oil industry. Besides the 56 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 1: fact that prices are not the factor that is hampering 57 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 1: American oil production at this point. If you just look 58 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 1: at the things that oil companies are saying, what's really 59 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 1: hurting them at this point are problems with the supply chain, 60 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 1: the cost of labor or the cost of supplies, regulatory 61 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 1: impediments that are making it more difficult for them to 62 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 1: acquire new leases and get production started. Um, they're they're 63 00:03:56,280 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 1: facing shortages in terms of parts of steel. Steel Harris 64 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 1: our major factor here, and some of these things that 65 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 1: Biden administration could make a difference on, but it seems 66 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 1: to be choosing to just um, you know, complain and 67 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 1: lay the blame at the oil companies for something that 68 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 1: is really not their fault. It's interesting today that the 69 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:21,720 Speaker 1: government reported a drop in both domestic crewed and gasoline supplies. 70 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:24,039 Speaker 1: One of the reasons that we had a rally in 71 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 1: New York crew today something north of three. Ellen. Very 72 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 1: nice to have you on the program and to benefit 73 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 1: from your insight. Ellen Wald is president of Transversal Consulting, 74 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:38,240 Speaker 1: joining us from Jacksonville, Florida here on a daybreak. Asia