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Speaker 3: it up. It's silly season, it's slap season. The NBA

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Speaker 3: trade rumors are coming fast and furious. Here. Yesterday, big

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Speaker 3: saying the Blazers are trying to trade for bam out

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Speaker 5: offense Raptors fans. It ain't Ogiananobe, it probably isn't Pascal Siakam.

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Speaker 5: a guy who's going to be twenty years old, definitely

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Speaker 4: Can talk myself into BAM for sure.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Defensively huge, Yeah, he is.

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Speaker 4: It doesn't have the the absolute ceiling that Zion does.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, just eliminate all that risk and you get

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Speaker 4: it's just it's just so weird to even think of

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Speaker 4: a ton of young players pat Riley calling him an anchor.

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Speaker 4: Of course he's twenty five. He's not even twenty six

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Speaker 4: I guess he does want to be around. But it

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Speaker 4: side as well about Dame going there, that the Miami

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Speaker 4: Heat have locked in their sights on getting Damiens Lillard

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Speaker 4: then the old reverse. Yeah, it definitely feels like, you know,

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Speaker 4: Chris Haynes has been on this. Who is the Damian

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Speaker 4: Lillard connect? For sure? So here we go, baby.

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Speaker 3: Hollander in his final mock draft does have Charlotte taking

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Speaker 5: That would be bad news. I kind of feel like

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Speaker 5: But that's why this is going to go up until night,

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Speaker 5: because there's nothing that the Blazers can do. Nobody's trading

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Speaker 3: direction and Scoots sort of your future, then then now

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Speaker 3: it's time. It feels unlikely with what he said over

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Speaker 3: like you said in the last decade, But yeah, is

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Speaker 3: it the Miami deal? Is there a Brooklyn deal to

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Speaker 3: sneak in there and get Damian Lillard. But I guess

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and it sounds like you're not buying into this

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Speaker 3: the Clippers are gauging Paul George's trade value and the

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Speaker 3: You are Paul George's biggest fans, love this guy. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I'm not getting a player back for Kawhi. So I'll

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Speaker 5: But basically they've got Paul George and Kawhi on contract

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Speaker 4: I think it's an avenue that the Clippers should definitely

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Speaker 4: would think that the Clippers would be really, really smart

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Speaker 4: Paul George, a different player than Bradley Beal. In Miami,

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Speaker 4: It's unfortunate and it looks like a championship team. And

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Speaker 3: Well, injuries have plagued them over the last two seasons.

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Speaker 3: Kawhi and Paul George, and both those guys eligible for

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Speaker 3: Like that's right around the corner too, Like that, don't

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Speaker 5: But like I said, I think the only trade that

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think it's sexy enough. I think you're

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Speaker 3: That's nice.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm with you. It would be weird not to

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Speaker 4: for a shooting wing.

431
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Speaker 3: Dylan Brooks is gone.

432
00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:45,560
Speaker 4: Dylan Brooks is gone. Yeah, and maybe because Dylan Brooks

433
00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:50,720
Speaker 4: is gone, you can imagine this trade offer that doesn't

434
00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:53,240
Speaker 4: really make a lot of sense. But maybe maybe with

435
00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:56,359
Speaker 4: what's happened in their locker room, the fact that things

436
00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:59,760
Speaker 4: have gone arrived, maybe they overcorrect and get a Dylan

437
00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:06,359
Speaker 4: Brooks plus, a Dylan Brooks super plus in Draymond Green,

438
00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:09,280
Speaker 4: there was a room. This sounds a little nuts, but

439
00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:11,680
Speaker 4: Adrian woj and Rowski threw out the names that Draymond

440
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Speaker 4: or the teams that Draymond Green could be looking at,

441
00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:15,720
Speaker 4: and he threw the Grizzlies out there, which was incredibly

442
00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:18,600
Speaker 4: surprising considering they have Jared Jackson Junior and Steven Adams

443
00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:20,159
Speaker 4: and why would you add a non shooter to that

444
00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:24,359
Speaker 4: when you just need shooters. But maybe they just want

445
00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:29,200
Speaker 4: a locker room presence to the utmost degree and Draymond.

446
00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:30,960
Speaker 3: To come in punch somebody, Yeah, get him in line.

447
00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:33,120
Speaker 4: Maybe he sees a Grizzly out there. Maybe he thinks

448
00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:34,760
Speaker 4: Dylan Brooks is still on the team and there's that

449
00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:37,000
Speaker 4: punchable face right over there. Oh no, he's not on

450
00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:38,960
Speaker 4: the team. Maybe I don't want to go to Memphis, but.

451
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Speaker 3: Come on over, kick Steven Adams and the balls. Hey,

452
00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:43,680
Speaker 3: now on your teammates. So it's cool. That's like their

453
00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:46,639
Speaker 3: handshake at the start of games. I think winds up.

454
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Speaker 3: Give me kicking them nods? Mate, all right, kick it, okay, Okay,

455
00:21:58,960 --> 00:21:59,360
Speaker 3: who knows.

456
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Speaker 4: I don't know.

457
00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:01,359
Speaker 5: He's gotta be a warrior, I do believe.

458
00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:04,159
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think so too. I just Wojnowski doesn't just

459
00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:06,760
Speaker 4: throw things out there and if the Grizzlies were interested

460
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Speaker 4: in Draymond Green, I believe it for that reason, just

461
00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:15,720
Speaker 4: to have another yeah, old head try and write things.

462
00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:18,880
Speaker 4: So a deal for Tias Jones and Steven Adams going

463
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Speaker 4: back to Golden State in a sign and trade would work.

464
00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:25,760
Speaker 4: The Golden State Warriors always would would want a big

465
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Speaker 4: It doesn't really make all that much sense as a

466
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Speaker 4: sign and trade, but who the heck knows. Maybe they're

467
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Speaker 4: over correcting for a locker room that's you know, that

468
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Speaker 4: hasn't gone right.

469
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Speaker 3: Wouldn't it make more sense if the move is to

470
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Speaker 3: ultimately trade ties Jones to go into next season, have

471
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Speaker 3: them start for you, put up like you said, you know,

472
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Speaker 3: eighteen and tens as maybe the Grizzlies even surprised people

473
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Speaker 3: still continuing to win without John Ran and then you know,

474
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Speaker 3: even build his trade value up even more where people

475
00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:55,280
Speaker 3: are like, oh, man, man, this guy maybe he really well,

476
00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:57,440
Speaker 3: he's proving he's a starting point guard. He should be

477
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Speaker 3: ours and maybe you get more draft capital or you know,

478
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Speaker 3: someone else in return if you are looking to move

479
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Speaker 3: off him, because there are so many teams that would

480
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Speaker 3: want Tys Jones for the right price. Of course, like

481
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Speaker 3: he really is just a steady, awesome point guard. In

482
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Speaker 3: terms of a floor general. He's sort of like he

483
00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:20,240
Speaker 3: gives me like Mike Conley vibes. You know, he's that

484
00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:22,080
Speaker 3: time you know in there as an old Grizzlies player

485
00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:25,800
Speaker 3: of course as well. But he's he's just is he

486
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Speaker 3: is He great? No, like he's never gonna be probably

487
00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:31,399
Speaker 3: not an All star or anything like that, but that's okay.

488
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Speaker 3: If you've got a bunch of you know, talented players

489
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Speaker 3: on the wings and at the big position. I just

490
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Speaker 3: don't want somebody to like take bad shots and screw

491
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Speaker 3: up and like again, run the run the show. The

492
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Speaker 3: Raptors at Van Vliet was gone, they would love him,

493
00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:45,520
Speaker 3: you know, you see, like Pistons, like you could have

494
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Speaker 3: him as a backup point guard. The Rockets obviously want

495
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Speaker 3: someone to like sort of be there steadying force. Tho

496
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Speaker 3: they're probably gonna go a Men Thompson and go really

497
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Speaker 3: really young. I think there's so many teams I would

498
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Speaker 3: want him, is my point here. So just hold on

499
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Speaker 3: to him if you're the Grizzlies, though, and put him

500
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Speaker 3: up big numbers and then tell them at the deadline

501
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Speaker 3: if that's the move.

502
00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:06,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, or he comes out and is okay as a starter,

503
00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:09,680
Speaker 5: you know, and then his trade deadline. It's not as enticing,

504
00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:11,560
Speaker 5: but there's always some team that is gonna want a

505
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Speaker 5: point guard.

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Speaker 3: Help.

507
00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:14,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, time, and do you really do you want to

508
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Speaker 5: pay his next contract? He's making fourteen mill this season, declining,

509
00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:20,359
Speaker 5: So shout out to the Grizzlies for getting a Did

510
00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:22,760
Speaker 5: he maybe sign with the Timberwolves. I don't know, but

511
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Speaker 5: he's gonna make more than fourteen million in the twenty

512
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Speaker 5: four to twenty five season.

513
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Speaker 3: Then he'll be twenty eight.

514
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Speaker 4: I don't know.

515
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Speaker 5: If you want to pay that, you're maybe playing Jalen

516
00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:33,359
Speaker 5: Brunson money. I don't think he's necessarily on Brunson's level,

517
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Speaker 5: but you can see why the Grizzlies would be interested

518
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Speaker 5: in making a move.

519
00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:40,600
Speaker 4: Right now, just jumping in here. Some summer league news.

520
00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:43,359
Speaker 4: Great news if you like summer league. Victor Webbin Yama

521
00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:47,680
Speaker 4: will play in summer league. He says, Hey, and this

522
00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:50,240
Speaker 4: first playing Sacramento in their first Summer league game. The

523
00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:52,920
Speaker 4: old Sacramento Summer League is.

524
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Speaker 3: So is he just play there? And now don't Vegas?

525
00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:59,480
Speaker 4: I don't know, but basketball is coming soon. July third,

526
00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:04,679
Speaker 4: real basketball with NBA players. WNBA's happened, of course, but

527
00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:07,800
Speaker 4: you get some summer league action quick with Victor wemban Yama,

528
00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:10,760
Speaker 4: who we questioned whether or not he'd play in summer league.

529
00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:14,120
Speaker 4: Guy just wants to play, apparently, so spears with that news.

530
00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:14,920
Speaker 4: Great stuff.

531
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Speaker 3: Back to Mark Stein with the rumors here Pacers are

532
00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:24,480
Speaker 3: interested in Sacramento Kings forward Harrison Barnes tass. Do you

533
00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:25,720
Speaker 3: have any thoughts on this one?

534
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:31,560
Speaker 4: Oh, Harry bo Yes, it would make so much sense

535
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,280
Speaker 4: on the Pacers side, right, just to get that steadying

536
00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:37,560
Speaker 4: force there. I guess they're becoming a Sacramento East a

537
00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:41,000
Speaker 4: little bit. Haliburton saying, come on over. But we used

538
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:43,840
Speaker 4: to play together, Buddy, heal too, Buddy, Yeah, I forgot

539
00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:49,520
Speaker 4: about that. It makes sense for sure, So I guess

540
00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:54,440
Speaker 4: the Kings are looking at a different avenue. They probably

541
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Speaker 4: just don't want to pay him his next contract, but

542
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Speaker 4: it would make sense from the Pacers side of things.

543
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Speaker 3: And when we did our mock draft yesterday, would we

544
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 3: have Taylor Hendricks, did we have Hendry or Walker?

545
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:05,359
Speaker 5: Garris Walker?

546
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:08,240
Speaker 3: We had Walker going they're taking a forward. It feels

547
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:10,280
Speaker 3: like that probably one of those two guys that we're

548
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:13,080
Speaker 3: being honest with the seventh pick tomorrow night. But what

549
00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:16,160
Speaker 3: about Harrison Barnes, a vet guy to come in here?

550
00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:17,120
Speaker 3: Why not do both?

551
00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:20,639
Speaker 5: Actually, basically, the Pacers would be saying, we want you

552
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:22,600
Speaker 5: to do for us what you did for the Kings.

553
00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:24,560
Speaker 5: Just be a steady veteran while we've got a young

554
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:27,639
Speaker 5: team trying to build back towards the playoffs. Harrison Barnes

555
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:30,800
Speaker 5: still hits threes, still gets to the line, he defends

556
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,000
Speaker 5: threes and fours like well enough, so he can kind

557
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,520
Speaker 5: of be a versa little dude, so I can see it.

558
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:37,439
Speaker 5: But also the Kings would I think, like to have

559
00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:40,080
Speaker 5: him back as well, fitting in the same place there.

560
00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:42,160
Speaker 5: Obviously didn't go well in the playoffs. That's your big

561
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:45,399
Speaker 5: concern with Harrison Barnes. But the Kings their concern was

562
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Speaker 5: making it back to the playoffs.

563
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:46,920
Speaker 3: They did.

564
00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:48,840
Speaker 5: The Pacers want to make it back to the playoffs.

565
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:52,359
Speaker 5: So maybe Barnes makes sense there. But it kind of

566
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:54,160
Speaker 5: comes down to for me, We're gonna get to talking

567
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:56,199
Speaker 5: about Kyle Kusma here in a little bit, but I

568
00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:57,639
Speaker 5: think the Kings and the Pacers are going to be

569
00:26:57,720 --> 00:26:59,640
Speaker 5: chasing after the same kind of player they both want

570
00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:02,840
Speaker 5: a four at this point. There's four out there that

571
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:06,359
Speaker 5: kind of fit the Bill Harrison, Barnes Kuzma, PJ Washington,

572
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 5: who's restricted with the Hornets, but maybe you could steal

573
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,359
Speaker 5: them if you give him a huge deal. And Grant Williams,

574
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:12,720
Speaker 5: another guy who the Pacers have been linked.

575
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Speaker 3: To as well. Who's the best of those four Barnes, Kuzma, PJ,

576
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:20,160
Speaker 3: and Grant. It's a good question. I mean, they all

577
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:23,200
Speaker 3: do something a little differently the better than others. Yeah,

578
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 3: I was gonna say the Jared weis there with the

579
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 3: Athletic He did tweet this morning. There's like apparently over

580
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:30,280
Speaker 3: a half a dozen teams that are inquiring about a

581
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:32,439
Speaker 3: Grant Williams sign and trade. So I'm glad you included

582
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:34,520
Speaker 3: him there, and I'm with you that the Pacers and Kings,

583
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:38,320
Speaker 3: that's a position where both those teams need to fill here.

584
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:42,840
Speaker 4: That's a y interesting one there with the Kings because

585
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 4: with Sabonis at the five, they haven't been comfortable playing

586
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:49,800
Speaker 4: ra Shawn Holmes the backup five. But Grant Williams could

587
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:52,680
Speaker 4: easily fill that in while playing for He's a really,

588
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 4: really versatile player, So I could see the Kings, you know,

589
00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:58,560
Speaker 4: making that play Grant Williams there. But yeah, they all

590
00:27:58,560 --> 00:27:59,399
Speaker 4: do different things.

591
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 3: All right. That's the slop roundup, at least when it

592
00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:05,879
Speaker 3: comes to the trade rumors, and for right this second,

593
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,840
Speaker 3: you know, they'll continue here throughout the day and tomorrow

594
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:11,480
Speaker 3: as we get closer and closer to the actual NBA Draft.

595
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:13,440
Speaker 3: We'll take a break here and when we come back,

596
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:17,399
Speaker 3: some free agency talks in regards to Kuzma, Gary, Trent Junior,

597
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 3: and a whole lot more don't go anywhere. All right,

598
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:23,119
Speaker 3: back here in the Classic Factory, we've talked about the

599
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:26,040
Speaker 3: NBA trade rumors. Let's get into some free agency news.

600
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Speaker 3: Kyle Kuzma has declined his thirteen million dollar player option.

601
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:36,120
Speaker 3: He will test unrestricted free agency potential suitors for Kuzma.

602
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:38,480
Speaker 3: You brought up a couple of them, Trey, the Pacers

603
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:41,240
Speaker 3: and the Kings. Maybe you could throw the Rockets, possibly

604
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:46,520
Speaker 3: the Spurs, the Jazz as a possibility. But no one's

605
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 3: surprised by this task that Kuzma was going to decline

606
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 3: that that player option. He's going to make way more

607
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 3: than thirteen million dollars in a free agency class that

608
00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 3: you know, he's one of the sexiest names.

609
00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 4: To be honest, he's quite a sexy name. You can

610
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 4: see amongst the stream team here. Question thrown out there

611
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 4: for the best forward for the Kings or the Pacers,

612
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 4: and and people you know, not really assigning him a team.

613
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 4: It doesn't matter. Kuzma's got the sexy name over Harrison Barnes, PJ.

614
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 4: Washington and Grant Williams. He's willing to take those shots,

615
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 4: that's for sure. He obviously had some big shots that

616
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:27,440
Speaker 4: he made this past year for the Washington Wizards. When

617
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 4: you look at his percentages, they are they're low. They're

618
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 4: not the good the good games value. That's what sticks

619
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Speaker 4: out in Washington. That's what happened. Yeah, thirty three percent

620
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:42,360
Speaker 4: from three. So a lesser role like when he was

621
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:44,960
Speaker 4: a champ with the Lakers, as a compliment, more of

622
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:48,400
Speaker 4: a complimentary piece rather than a main piece, would be ideal.

623
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Speaker 4: I think. So if I'm the Kings, if I'm the Pacers,

624
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 4: don't I don't like the Pacers movie, he would, I

625
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:59,480
Speaker 4: think take on too much of a role there, but

626
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 4: is somewhat of a fit.

627
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 5: Sure Tray, I think he should ask the Wizards for

628
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 5: a no trade clause see if they might not work

629
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Speaker 5: once upon a time.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. It was interesting.

631
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Speaker 5: I'm reading John Hollinger's predictions. He says it's pretty easy

632
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 5: for Kusma to get the full mid level exception. Makes

633
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,960
Speaker 5: sense to me. That's four years, fifty three million, which

634
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,200
Speaker 5: is an average of thirteen point twenty five million per season.

635
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 4: That's not what he want exactly.

636
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 5: He's turning down a thirteen million dollar player option, So

637
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 5: I don't know. I mean, I'm a Kuzma fan as well.

638
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 5: I love the good games and I just completely ignore

639
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 5: the bad games because the highlights are awesome. He won

640
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:38,200
Speaker 5: a championship. He's willing to take clutch shots, which you

641
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 5: know is valuable if you're the Wizards, maybe not so

642
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:43,040
Speaker 5: much if you're a contending team. It's just hard to

643
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 5: get him to a contender without some kind of sign

644
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:47,719
Speaker 5: and trade. So the Lakers have to decide Kyle Kuzma

645
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Speaker 5: is our best chance to get to a championship because

646
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 5: they don't have a whole bunch of moves they can make.

647
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 3: So I don't know.

648
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:55,080
Speaker 5: I like him on the Kings, I guess they would

649
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 5: be fine back on the Wizards. I like him on

650
00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 5: the Pacers. I don't care if he takes a little

651
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 5: bit more responsibility than there's not a lot of responsibility

652
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 5: to go around on the Pacers. I think you would

653
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 5: fit in there really nice. But man, if he leaves

654
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 5: Washington after they got nothing for Bradley Beal, after they

655
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 5: got nothing for really Hatchamura, come on, that's got to

656
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 5: be like a one year run of the worst GMing

657
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 5: of all time, which is why they got a new guy.

658
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 3: Right because we were talking about the deadline last year,

659
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 3: of the possibility of trading some of these guys. Yeah,

660
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 3: I thought he was going, yeah, yeah, exactly, exactly.

661
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:29,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, they got him and potentially Porzingis as sign in trades.

662
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 4: Well wow, well we'll see what Porzingis does with his

663
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 4: player option.

664
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 3: Right today, I think he has to decide, Yes, if

665
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 3: I have that CR, I think Chris Middleton, I think

666
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 3: I think Porzingis or someone else maybe a little lower

667
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 3: on the important skill that has to decide. But anyway,

668
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 3: I like Utah. What about Utah for cuz played there exactly,

669
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 3: he went to college there. They have a lot of

670
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 3: cap space. I think they have like forty five million dollars,

671
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 3: could be as much as sixty six million, depending on

672
00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:00,440
Speaker 3: what some of their guys do with their players, most

673
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 3: notably Jordan Clarkson. I don't mind the fit with Lowry

674
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:08,240
Speaker 3: marketing obviously, Walker Kessler, Ebagie. I think he slots in

675
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 3: there with a bit of a role. I could see

676
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 3: that working. I don't know if they get three Yeah,

677
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 3: like Lowry is sort of the three four type thing. Yeah,

678
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:18,480
Speaker 3: the two of them sort of interchangeable in a way.

679
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 3: I don't mind it, but yeah, those are some of

680
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 3: the teams that Kuzma is linked to. Or yeah, do

681
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 3: the Wizards just going, my god, we can't lose absolutely

682
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 3: everybody and just pay him maybe.

683
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 5: I mean, he's gonna be a guy that's on the

684
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 5: trade market. If the Wizards bring him back, that is

685
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 5: another guy that they could trade like they tried to

686
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 5: at this trade deadline.

687
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 3: Maybe the deals will be better.

688
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 5: But like everybody's saying, Kuzma wants to be in a

689
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 5: big market and play for a contender, they don't have

690
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 5: a lot of cap space. I mean, I totally agree

691
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 5: he wants to be He wants to be a star somewhere.

692
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 5: He doesn't want to sign with the Spurs for the

693
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 5: biggest bag he can possibly.

694
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 3: Get, But it's tough, So I don't know.

695
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 5: Kuzma might be signing a longer deal that's about the

696
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:57,480
Speaker 5: same value that he just declined.

697
00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 3: Wow, be a little shocking. Feels like he's a I mean,

698
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:02,720
Speaker 3: he guys. Still he's still scored like twenty one points

699
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 3: per game this year. I know the percentages are not

700
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 3: going to wow you, but he's done that for a

701
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 3: while now, obviously proven score at this level. I would

702
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 3: think he gets more.

703
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:14,959
Speaker 4: But yeah, and the fallback option of going back to

704
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 4: Washington for a bunch of money and potentially being on

705
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 4: the trade market is a decent one because they have

706
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 4: to pay someone. With the salary cap floor as it is,

707
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 4: you got to pay somebody. And right now, let's say

708
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 4: Porzingis goes somewhere else. Let's say let's say they you know,

709
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:31,800
Speaker 4: he just opts out and goes and sign somewhere Kyle

710
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 4: Kuzma with his thirteen million dollars projected deal, which he

711
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 4: you know, he's he's opted out from. Would it be

712
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 4: the highest paid Washington Wizard player they're paying nobody, you know,

713
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 4: besides Porzingis, who could come back. That's there too, right, Yeah,

714
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,960
Speaker 4: Monte Morris Delon right, would be the next two and

715
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 4: then yeah, oh yeah, Gafford actually jumps up. Actually, Gaffer

716
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:53,480
Speaker 4: would be the very would be the second highest. So

717
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 4: they're they're not paying anybody because of getting Redbeal and

718
00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 4: so yeah, he could just sign back and say you

719
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 4: got to pay some pay me and trade me later.

720
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:07,960
Speaker 3: Yeahs Raptors. Gary Trent Junior opting into an eighteen point

721
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:11,400
Speaker 3: six million dollar player option, though he will be seeking

722
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:14,360
Speaker 3: a long term deal. This was a bit of a

723
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:18,560
Speaker 3: surprise to Raptors fans task that that Gary here didn't

724
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 3: take the opportunity to sign a new long term contract

725
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:26,479
Speaker 3: on the open market when you specially consider that there's

726
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:28,480
Speaker 3: not a lot of guards in free agency here. I mean,

727
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:32,920
Speaker 3: it's like it's Kyrie, it's like Harden, it's Van Vliet.

728
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:35,760
Speaker 3: Gary Trent Junior might be like fourth on that list,

729
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 3: fourth or fifth, but he still is extension eligible here

730
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 3: with the Raptors, So maybe they come to an agreement

731
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 3: on a longer term or more expensive deal there. But

732
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:47,880
Speaker 3: what do you think about this about Gary here opting

733
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 3: in to that final year.

734
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 4: Well, I thought Gary's back, all right, I'm excited for

735
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:57,920
Speaker 4: one year of Gary. They can still trade him this season,

736
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:00,920
Speaker 4: they can extend him. I think it just means that

737
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 4: Fred is gone and that Gary sees the potential for

738
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:08,839
Speaker 4: him being more of a lead guard, having more responsibility,

739
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:11,879
Speaker 4: and maybe getting paid even more next year. They are

740
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 4: both clutch clients, so baby, he knows it's a good

741
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 4: point that Fred is gone. That's what it singles more

742
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:20,840
Speaker 4: to me. Not so much that he's going to be

743
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 4: there for a long term in Toronto, but yeah, he

744
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 4: could just see an opportunity with Fred being gone.

745
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:31,280
Speaker 3: He's only twenty four years old. Gary Trench Junior feels

746
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 3: way older, feels like he's just been around a lot longer.

747
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 3: Corene wrote for The Athletic with Trent opting in. The

748
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 3: Raptors now have nine players under contract, making about one

749
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 3: hundred and twelve million dollars, including one million guaranteed for

750
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:45,800
Speaker 3: Thutius Young in a biot scenario. Add in minimum salaries

751
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:47,400
Speaker 3: and a first round draft pick, which they have the

752
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 3: thirteenth pick right now Tomorrow night, and the Raptors will

753
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 3: have in neighbor in the neighborhood of forty two million

754
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:55,879
Speaker 3: or so to re sign Van Vliet, you know, and

755
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 3: or Perl. But forty two million is not going to

756
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:00,879
Speaker 3: cut it for the two of those guys, which goes

757
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 3: to what you were saying Tasks about, does this mean

758
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 3: does this mean that they are not bringing back Fred

759
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:09,439
Speaker 3: van Vliet? Yeah, trade your thoughts on this. Uh yeah,

760
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:11,960
Speaker 3: I mean I guess they could still trade Gary Trent.

761
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, right, like if somebody decides that they're really interested

762
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 5: in him but didn't have the greatest season. So maybe

763
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 5: he's looking at the cap space landscape out there and saying,

764
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 5: I can come back for eighteen million dollars to come

765
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:25,840
Speaker 5: off the bench. That's all right, that's pretty solid money.

766
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:28,920
Speaker 5: Maybe have a good year moving into the starting lineup

767
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:32,800
Speaker 5: officially and sticking around and then try your luck again

768
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 5: next summer, I suppose. But he's young enough that the

769
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:37,880
Speaker 5: Raptors could keep him as part of the rebuild. Then

770
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:40,399
Speaker 5: the way his contract is, they could still trade him

771
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 5: now or at the deadline if there's somebody out there.

772
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 5: So yeah, I don't know. I'm kind of like with

773
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 5: Tasks that it just more so to me means that

774
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 5: probably Fred van Vliet is moving on somewhere because I

775
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:53,840
Speaker 5: think the Raptors will be more enticed to keep Perdle

776
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 5: considering how much they traded for him last year.

777
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, this year we said he's twenty four years old.

778
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:02,360
Speaker 4: Anyone named is older than they are. Yeah, it's a

779
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 4: good point from Leo Goman. I stole that from him.

780
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:06,960
Speaker 5: Great point.

781
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 4: Twenty four for a Gary, is there a younger Gary

782
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:12,279
Speaker 4: in the world of doubt it.

783
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 3: The Raptors could. Gary could offer Gary Trent Junior an

784
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 3: extension with a maximum starting salary of about twenty six million,

785
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:25,279
Speaker 3: which would start there in twenty four twenty five. Now,

786
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 3: I don't think Raptors fans would be as happy with

787
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 3: that type of number for for Gary Trent Junior. But yeah,

788
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 3: this and to see like there are people thinking now

789
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 3: this means that, yeah, Gary Trent Junior and maybe even

790
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:39,719
Speaker 3: the thirteenth pick could be moved, you know, tomorrow to

791
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:42,439
Speaker 3: either the Raptors moving up or to bring more talent back.

792
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 3: Like everything's still in play with Gary Trent Junior. Is

793
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 3: just whether or not you believe this means buy to

794
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 3: Fred Van Vliet or not. I mean, he's going to

795
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:54,080
Speaker 3: be looking at a thirty million dollar per year type

796
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:56,840
Speaker 3: of deal probably for three years, you would think fvv

797
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 3: so is that with the Rapts is out with another

798
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:02,040
Speaker 3: team there are moves like the Raptors could try and

799
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:04,880
Speaker 3: trade Bouchet and like they could like autoport Junior, Like

800
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 3: they could try and open up more money here to

801
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:11,880
Speaker 3: bring the band back together. Whether that's smarter or not,

802
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 3: I don't know. It doesn't feel like it though. I

803
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 3: think Michael Grange was saying the Raptors think they're more

804
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:19,759
Speaker 3: like the Heat. They see a path to be, like, hey,

805
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:23,360
Speaker 3: just keep everybody together, keep building on this. Why couldn't

806
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 3: we beat Miami or we're making a deep run with

807
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:28,839
Speaker 3: this type of team, right, The.

808
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:30,719
Speaker 5: Raptors almost beat the Bulls in the plan, and the

809
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 5: Bulls there you go, almost won the championship.

810
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 3: When you put it that way, Ram them back, baby?

811
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 3: All right? Well, we talked about the Wizards like sort

812
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 3: of blowing things up, obviously finally moving Bradley Beal, and

813
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 3: we talked to whether or not the Blazers will do

814
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 3: the same with Damian Lillard. What other teams, though, do

815
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:54,560
Speaker 3: you think should hit the reset button? Guys? Who else?

816
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 3: We've talked Wizards, Let's not talk Blazers, Like, give me

817
00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:00,959
Speaker 3: another team that should maybe think about, Hey, let's start fresh,

818
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 3: let's press that reset button. Who do you got.

819
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:06,760
Speaker 4: I think that Clippers should do it. We just talked

820
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:11,320
Speaker 4: about heat culture. Kawhi Leonard would fit that Heat culture.

821
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 4: He likes to take some time off and then work

822
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:17,879
Speaker 4: hard in the postseason. I know we think of him

823
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 4: as a guy who doesn't doesn't play a lot of games,

824
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 4: but Heat like to take some regular season games off,

825
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:26,960
Speaker 4: barely make the play in and then boom boom, we're

826
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 4: in the NBA Finals. Kawhi would love that they just

827
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 4: offered two first round picks for Bradley Beal. I think

828
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 4: the Clippers should be if they're a fourthinking. I have

829
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 4: the forethought here to just try and say, really, it's

830
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:44,880
Speaker 4: been a bad few years here with this Paul George

831
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:49,760
Speaker 4: and Kawhi Leonard experiment, two years remaining. You like Bradley

832
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 4: Beal's contract Miami, Well, Kawhi is shorter. He makes basically

833
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:56,280
Speaker 4: as much as he does per year, but it's it's shorter.

834
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 4: Come on, come get him?

835
00:39:57,840 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 3: Why the heck not?

836
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:01,280
Speaker 4: I think this is the time to strike here before

837
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 4: the CBA kicks in even July first, there's there's the

838
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 4: punitive penalty of only being able to take one hundred

839
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 4: and ten percent back rather than one hundred and twenty

840
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 4: five percent, So do it now. I know it's It

841
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 4: would be tough for the Clippers going into this new

842
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 4: stadium to try and tear it down. But as we

843
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:20,799
Speaker 4: just talked about with Paul George, they just haven't been

844
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:22,880
Speaker 4: able to put it together the last few years. It

845
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:25,919
Speaker 4: feels like the window is very much closing. And maybe

846
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:29,359
Speaker 4: the Heat believe in that training staff to turn Kawhi

847
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 4: Leonard or Paul George even around, Why the heck not.

848
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:35,319
Speaker 4: They have a belief in themselves and it usually works out.

849
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:37,240
Speaker 4: So the Clippers. I think it's time.

850
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:40,760
Speaker 5: Kawhi Leonard is still waiting on surgery. I do believe,

851
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:43,280
Speaker 5: isn't he. He was out at the end of the playoffs,

852
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 5: and I don't think he had it surgery. I think

853
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 5: he's trying to let the meniscus heal over the summer,

854
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:48,800
Speaker 5: which means he might be having surgery right before the

855
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 5: season starts. Weird stuff we might be seeing literally a

856
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 5: Kawhi Leonard trade part too. He played nine games his

857
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 5: last season with the Spurs. Then the Raptors swooped in,

858
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:00,759
Speaker 5: didn't trade a whole bunch for him and Perle, and

859
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 5: the first round of it became Keldon Johnson. Some team

860
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 5: might say, hey, we're one piece away. Puts us over

861
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 5: the top easily. The Heat have been to the finals twice,

862
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 5: they're a piece away. It could makes sense, It could

863
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 5: make sense. I think it would be a little bit

864
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 5: further down the line when you actually see Kawhi return

865
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 5: to the court. But man, that'd be very.

866
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 3: Magic.

867
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 5: Was the finals MVP again plays one season, bounces cut

868
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:27,319
Speaker 5: out of the rebel possibility.

869
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:29,280
Speaker 3: Okay, so TESSAs the Clippers though.

870
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:31,120
Speaker 4: And the Raptors think they're one piece of weight. I

871
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 4: think so many teams think they're one piece away right now,

872
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 4: and well.

873
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:35,839
Speaker 5: When the piece is Kawhi, a lot of teams are

874
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 5: one piece away.

875
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 4: Yeah you can.

876
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 3: I never had Kawhi Leonard, they'd be great.

877
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:41,919
Speaker 4: Kaw would be good on them.

878
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, what about you, Trey. What's another team that

879
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:45,720
Speaker 3: could hit the reset button?

880
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 5: Oh, Doubles. They're doing the right thing right now. They're

881
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 5: gauging interest in zach Lavine because at their peak, the

882
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 5: Bulls are a competitive team, but they're not contenders. But

883
00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:57,839
Speaker 5: I also don't want to see the Bulls trade him

884
00:41:57,840 --> 00:41:59,439
Speaker 5: just to trade him and get pennies on the dollar,

885
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 5: because that would the Jimmy Butler trade all over. There

886
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:05,239
Speaker 5: is another path for the Bulls, but right now, like

887
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:09,400
Speaker 5: you look at the players who are potentially available, definitely

888
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 5: has a lesser reputation than Bradley Beal did. You got

889
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 5: Damian Lillard ahead of him in the pecking order, Zion

890
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 5: still ahead of him in the pecking order, Paul George,

891
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:22,760
Speaker 5: and then you're getting into like Pascal siakam OJIANNAOPI. Maybe

892
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:24,960
Speaker 5: zach Lavine is on that level, but it feels like

893
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 5: teams are choosing so many guys before they finally get

894
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 5: to zach Lavine. At that point, then the Bulls would

895
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:33,279
Speaker 5: also have to trade DeMar Derozen and probably not come

896
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:35,239
Speaker 5: to an agreement with Nick vucovic. I don't think you

897
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 5: can include Patrick Williams in any sort of trade for

898
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 5: zach Lavine. So I wouldn't be surprised that the Bulls

899
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:44,920
Speaker 5: decide just the Waven stretch, Lonzo Ball, small deals for

900
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:47,759
Speaker 5: Vouch and Kobe White, figure out something with Io to

901
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 5: bring him back, and then get cheap vets like Utah Watson,

902
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 5: Navi Max Strus, not the most exciting names, but players

903
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:57,319
Speaker 5: who can shoot threes. Run it back and try things

904
00:42:57,320 --> 00:42:59,919
Speaker 5: at the trade deadline again, when maybe Zach Lavine has

905
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:01,880
Speaker 5: shown that yeah I'm over my knee surgeries.

906
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:02,399
Speaker 3: I'm not.

907
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:05,399
Speaker 5: You're getting a really solid player here, and they could

908
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 5: try the same thing at the trade deadline. Feels like

909
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 5: Levine is going to be in trade dead in trade

910
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:12,920
Speaker 5: talks until he's gone from the Bulls, are until he

911
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 5: moves on to another contract.

912
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think he could fit the Beal desire out

913
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 4: there as soon as a couple of these other guys

914
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:22,920
Speaker 4: either stick with their teams like Dame or whoever. Why

915
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 4: the heck not the Miami Heat have to be wondering

916
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 4: Zach Levine.

917
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:29,440
Speaker 3: Everybody going to the Miami Heat. But I guess this

918
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 3: is what they do. They're like, ready, all right, they've

919
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:33,759
Speaker 3: got piece star players, start player, let's get another.

920
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it would make sense for the Bulls.

921
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 5: I think how about the Knicks Verre team that was

922
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:42,399
Speaker 5: allegedly interested as well, and who knows, I mean, who

923
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:43,960
Speaker 5: knows who the Knicks are going after they didn't want

924
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 5: to pull the trigger for Donovan Mitchell last season. I'm

925
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:50,320
Speaker 5: sure they'd like to be in on the Damian Lillard sweepstakes,

926
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:53,040
Speaker 5: But we haven't really heard any talk about that. Levine

927
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 5: fits nice next to Jalen Brunson, that's for sure.

928
00:43:56,440 --> 00:44:00,919
Speaker 4: Yeah, Barrett as the main part coming back. I'll talk

929
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:02,719
Speaker 4: yourself into that. I mean, you have to give up something,

930
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:04,359
Speaker 4: I think for Zach Lavine at this point.

931
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:08,719
Speaker 5: So they say they want a young player, cap.

932
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:11,960
Speaker 3: Releaf and a bunch of picks, just like everybody wants.

933
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:15,400
Speaker 3: The problem though, like five teams have all the picks exactly.

934
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 5: The Jazz have a ton of picks, Thunder, Pelicans, Rockets,

935
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:22,800
Speaker 5: Spurs are acquiring quite a few picks at this point.

936
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:25,400
Speaker 5: It's like, okay, we got to talk to those teams

937
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:27,480
Speaker 5: to deal any sort of picks. It sort of feels

938
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 5: like because all of the contenders have dealt their picks

939
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:31,280
Speaker 5: to those teams.

940
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 3: Yeah tough.

941
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, the Knicks are still holding on to their they

942
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 4: have a couple.

943
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:35,719
Speaker 1: Yeah.

944
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 5: Anyways, so they're the team that seems most likely to

945
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:41,320
Speaker 5: trade a bunch of picks because they've got spares and

946
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 5: they're on the upswing.

947
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, they want to be good.

948
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:46,839
Speaker 3: I know you're talking about sort of future picks when

949
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:48,279
Speaker 3: it comes to some of those teams. But I saw

950
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:50,920
Speaker 3: this tweet from Bobby marks. I think last night, this morning,

951
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:55,360
Speaker 3: for this draft tomorrow night, ten teams occupy thirty four

952
00:44:55,480 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 3: out of the fifty eight picks in Thursday's draft. Teams

953
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:02,920
Speaker 3: that's great, have thirty four out of the fifty eight.

954
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:04,319
Speaker 3: I know what you're saying, You're like, why aren't there

955
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 3: sixty picks? Well, a couple teams they got dinged. They

956
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 3: got them taken away from them Bulls. One of them

957
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:11,960
Speaker 3: bulls got dinged. Who is the other team? I forget nicks?

958
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:14,319
Speaker 4: Probably for the Yalan Yeah.

959
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:18,240
Speaker 3: Maybe. Anyway, ten teams with thirty four of the fifty

960
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:19,399
Speaker 3: eight picks tomorrow night.

961
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:23,360
Speaker 5: Holy, we better have some trades. Honestly, we better have

962
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 5: some trades. When like some teams that have like four

963
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 5: picks in the top forty five or something like that.

964
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:30,080
Speaker 3: I think the Hornets are one that has a ton

965
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 3: of picks, the Pacers. The Pacers have four in the

966
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:36,560
Speaker 3: top thirty two. Yeah, they could be a package of

967
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:38,399
Speaker 3: a ton. The Hornets do have a lot of picks

968
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 3: as well, some of them a little bit later. But yeah,

969
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 3: wild Wild, I'll pick a team that should maybe hit

970
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:48,839
Speaker 3: the reset button, not a full rebuild, but I think

971
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 3: the Wolves need to get aggressive here moving Karl Anthony Towns.

972
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:55,440
Speaker 3: I do believe that. I understand he was injured last year,

973
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 3: he only played like twenty nine games. I'm just not

974
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 3: convinced with what we say with him with Rudy and

975
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:05,319
Speaker 3: those five hundred minutes or so where they were brutal offensively,

976
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 3: will get all that much better. They've made a decision,

977
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:10,279
Speaker 3: the right decision in Minnesota to sort of hand the

978
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 3: keys to Anthony Edwards. Can kat Like change his game?

979
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:18,880
Speaker 5: He did change the game, it's true.

980
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:21,279
Speaker 3: But can he change his game to fit better with

981
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 3: Aunt as the lead dog and obviously Rudy alongside him.

982
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:29,239
Speaker 3: I don't think so. I don't from the personality standpoint,

983
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:32,279
Speaker 3: the lack of self awareness. He's very mechanical. He's sort

984
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:34,440
Speaker 3: of just slow moving when it comes to his decision making,

985
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:38,400
Speaker 3: which I don't love. And that contract is about to

986
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 3: get insane too. Thirty six million dollars next year, that's fine,

987
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:44,799
Speaker 3: then it balloons to forty nine million, then fifty three,

988
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 3: then fifty seven. Karl Anthony Towns as a player option

989
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 3: in the final year for sixty one million dollars. So

990
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:54,840
Speaker 3: I think, as we've seen time and time again with

991
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:59,439
Speaker 3: some of these squads with talented all NBA players. Don't

992
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:01,839
Speaker 3: wait so long because you're going to back yourself into

993
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 3: a corner and you're gonna get nothing in return. And

994
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 3: I think they should just make the decision now. I

995
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:09,400
Speaker 3: think you get a lot for them, and then you

996
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 3: still and you have a good team like you I

997
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 3: like and Rudy as like you're sort of like the

998
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:16,480
Speaker 3: cornerstones to a good squad there and then obviously filling

999
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:18,560
Speaker 3: out the rest of the roster. So again, this is

1000
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:20,600
Speaker 3: not like a blow it up, get rid of everybody,

1001
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:24,279
Speaker 3: but they I think they should really look to move

1002
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:27,440
Speaker 3: Karl Anthony Towns. They also have no draft capital whatsoever. Yes,

1003
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:30,439
Speaker 3: Minnesota sending Utah unprotected first round picks in twenty three,

1004
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 3: twenty five, and twenty seven. The Wolves will also send

1005
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:36,359
Speaker 3: a twenty nine top five protected first to that Utah

1006
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 3: Jazz team. The jaz can swap picks with them in

1007
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:43,360
Speaker 3: twenty six. They have nothing. They have they have five

1008
00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 3: I believe second round picks. That's what they have to

1009
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 3: you know, sort of play with. So it's gonna have

1010
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:52,600
Speaker 3: to be a move like Karl Anthony Towns to either

1011
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 3: get draft capital or you know, young promising players to

1012
00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 3: sort of build around Anthony other so that would be

1013
00:47:57,239 --> 00:47:59,479
Speaker 3: my team. Whether or not they'll do it, who knows.

1014
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:01,800
Speaker 5: I don't think they'll do it right away.

1015
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 3: Probably not. They'll probably be like Zach Lavine and the

1016
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 3: Bulls here. You're like, he'll go into next season, he'll

1017
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 3: be healthy, so you will see if you can make

1018
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:11,360
Speaker 3: it work. Yeah, I'm skeptical.

1019
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:13,240
Speaker 5: And look, you see the way they built their playing

1020
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 5: champion team, the way they came together in just four months.

1021
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:18,880
Speaker 5: Good point in chemistry. You give him a whole summer together, come.

1022
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:20,000
Speaker 4: On, things could change.

1023
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:22,319
Speaker 5: But honestly, I do think that they should run it back.

1024
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 5: Tim Connolly has kind of said the same. We're gonna

1025
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:27,600
Speaker 5: try and run it back because Towns is still young

1026
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:29,239
Speaker 5: man like, he's gonna be twenty eight at the end

1027
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:29,960
Speaker 5: of next season.

1028
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:32,960
Speaker 3: Probably doesn't work with Gobert.

1029
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 5: But you could trade Towns at any time on this

1030
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 5: contract and he's still gonna be valuableth Like, I wouldn't

1031
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:41,160
Speaker 5: actually mind paying Karl Anthony Towns thirty. He'll make fifty

1032
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:43,440
Speaker 5: eight million dollars the last year of his contract. That's

1033
00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:44,200
Speaker 5: a ton of money.

1034
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:45,279
Speaker 3: I'll only be.

1035
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:47,880
Speaker 5: Thirty one years old. Town should still be in his prime.

1036
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:49,920
Speaker 5: So if you're a team trading for Towns, you're like,

1037
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:52,320
Speaker 5: I can fix them, I can make him better. I

1038
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 5: can put the right team around him. I would take

1039
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:55,839
Speaker 5: a chance on him.

1040
00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:59,879
Speaker 3: Bobby Marks noted though, in his offseason guide that once

1041
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:03,000
Speaker 3: you know the rookie max extension for Anthony Edwards, you

1042
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:05,320
Speaker 3: know kicks in and you go, you know, balls to

1043
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:07,440
Speaker 3: the walls with him. The Wolves will be the only

1044
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:09,319
Speaker 3: team in twenty twenty four to twenty five with three

1045
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:12,560
Speaker 3: players on a MAX deal. And we're talking about Aunt,

1046
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:17,359
Speaker 3: Kat and Rudy as like the three max players. That's

1047
00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:20,799
Speaker 3: that's an issue unless they unless they wow everyone here

1048
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:21,960
Speaker 3: at the start of next season.

1049
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:24,520
Speaker 4: But it kind of emulates what Tim connolly did with

1050
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 4: the Denver Nuggets and Jokich Murray and Michael Porter Junior.

1051
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:31,920
Speaker 4: Built from within, stuck with it. I know it's obviously

1052
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:34,520
Speaker 4: a championship team and a non championship.

1053
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:36,400
Speaker 3: Any Towns nor Rudy Gobert is going to be the

1054
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:38,200
Speaker 3: Yo kitchen. This equation is the problem.

1055
00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 4: No, no, But to stick with it, I would say,

1056
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:42,759
Speaker 4: that's what's going to happen. They stuck with it for

1057
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:45,400
Speaker 4: years and years and years and that's probably what's going

1058
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:48,719
Speaker 4: to happen. And they are in these these workouts here

1059
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:51,440
Speaker 4: for the for the young players that they've brought in,

1060
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:53,799
Speaker 4: they're all there. Apparently not all of them, but Rudy

1061
00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:56,240
Speaker 4: Gobert didn't go to France. He's there working out according

1062
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:59,760
Speaker 4: to our John Krazinski. Usually he's gone. He's in France.

1063
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:02,799
Speaker 4: So it seems like they've got good chemistry. What's an

1064
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:05,640
Speaker 4: interesting piece by John Krasinski here. An interesting part is

1065
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:08,120
Speaker 4: that nas Reed is there. He's becoming he's going to

1066
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:11,480
Speaker 4: be a free agent. Yeah, so do they want to

1067
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:15,040
Speaker 4: make nas Read work back with them with Gobert and

1068
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:18,120
Speaker 4: Karl Anthony Towns. That was surprising to me that he'd

1069
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:21,200
Speaker 4: be there. And isn't this tampering? I mean, this feels

1070
00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:24,960
Speaker 4: like tampering where they're all together hanging out what players

1071
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:27,799
Speaker 4: can't Yeah, players can't tamper, but they're all there with

1072
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:32,360
Speaker 4: like taking in all of the workouts for the college players.

1073
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:35,200
Speaker 3: It just just feels like it's tampered.

1074
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:40,759
Speaker 4: Right, there's chatter. Really, I just wanted to come back

1075
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:45,239
Speaker 4: to that to to confirm that it's actually the Bulls

1076
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:48,320
Speaker 4: who don't have a draft pick this year. For tampering.

1077
00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:48,960
Speaker 4: Oh is that what we.

1078
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 3: Always plus the seventy six ers.

1079
00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:54,240
Speaker 4: No, it's PJ.

1080
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:54,760
Speaker 3: Tucker.

1081
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:59,520
Speaker 4: They tampered. They tampered for PJ. Tucker. The next forfeit

1082
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:01,319
Speaker 4: of their pick, the John Brunts. That's a couple of years.

1083
00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:03,200
Speaker 3: Oh, there you go, there you go. Okay, so there

1084
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 3: will only be fifty eight picks tomorrow night.

1085
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:06,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think the Wolves are going to lose a

1086
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:09,840
Speaker 4: pick for tampering too. You can't cando in June.

1087
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:11,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, what do the guys can get together?

1088
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:16,759
Speaker 4: Absolutely, they're there scouting, chatting, saying, hey, yeah, you come

1089
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:20,040
Speaker 4: to Minnesota. I'll give you culvers for a week first

1090
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:22,320
Speaker 4: day you come. I mean there's there's there's a is

1091
00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:23,560
Speaker 4: there culvers in Minnesota?

1092
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:28,120
Speaker 5: I'm sure there is Midwestern I figured, right, I'll show

1093
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:28,720
Speaker 5: your snow.

1094
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:32,280
Speaker 3: Well, that's a fun question for everybody joining us live

1095
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:37,000
Speaker 3: or listening later. Which team do you think should uh,

1096
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:40,960
Speaker 3: you know, blow it up, press the reset button, lean

1097
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:44,759
Speaker 3: into a hard rebuild however you want to put it.

1098
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:47,880
Speaker 3: Which squad should consider doing it? Maybe the Raptors. Maybe

1099
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:49,759
Speaker 3: the Raptors are one of those teams sort of got

1100
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:54,359
Speaker 3: tired about talking about them. Sure you can in February. Man,

1101
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:57,760
Speaker 3: yes they have. All right, let's get to tweeted the night.

1102
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:07,880
Speaker 4: Read overnight Wow, talk Talk baseball. Let's do this all right,

1103
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:08,680
Speaker 4: It's called Joel.

1104
00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:12,719
Speaker 5: McMillan again, real quick. He's still awake. No, no, no,

1105
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:14,440
Speaker 5: you went to bed right after recording.

1106
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:19,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's late. And he's an amazing individual. I know us.

1107
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:21,440
Speaker 4: I think I think we. I can speak for all

1108
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:23,920
Speaker 4: of us. After we record, after even we do a playback.

1109
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 4: You know, there's a buzz, there's yeah, yeah, you need

1110
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:31,360
Speaker 4: to you need to somehow decompress. Joel McMillan just go

1111
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:31,960
Speaker 4: straight to bed.

1112
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:34,680
Speaker 3: He pulls it off.

1113
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:36,919
Speaker 4: I don't know how he does it. He's like, uh, yeah,

1114
00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:38,759
Speaker 4: I asked him something, but can we do this? He's like,

1115
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:40,680
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go to bed. We'll do it tomorrow.

1116
00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:42,800
Speaker 5: You're gonna have my favorite snack, peppers and hummus.

1117
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:45,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's gonna he's gonna well, he popped a gummy

1118
00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:48,760
Speaker 3: already for sure, and then he puts on some cans.

1119
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:51,560
Speaker 3: He sleeps with headphones on and like listens to like

1120
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:56,960
Speaker 3: a Swedish woman talk to him. What gm I you

1121
00:52:57,040 --> 00:53:01,080
Speaker 3: may have not wanted me to share that with I'm

1122
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:03,960
Speaker 3: pretty sure he does that. He started, so he's one

1123
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:06,160
Speaker 3: of these people that can't sleep with silence, Like he

1124
00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:08,439
Speaker 3: can't respect that, like a lot of people like want

1125
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:12,279
Speaker 3: the fan or like that white noise. But he was

1126
00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:17,040
Speaker 3: like always for sure, like a television on type of person,

1127
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:20,560
Speaker 3: which there are people like that, but with a significant other,

1128
00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:23,120
Speaker 3: you can't. I just he's told me before. It's like

1129
00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:26,399
Speaker 3: it's like as mr, I think, I'm pretty sure that's

1130
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:26,920
Speaker 3: what it is.

1131
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:29,399
Speaker 4: Like, Well, it could be true because we were talking

1132
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:32,920
Speaker 4: about the best ballpark nuts and he said the dropping

1133
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:36,680
Speaker 4: of pistachio shells into a cup. Great ASMR.

1134
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:37,360
Speaker 3: He loves this.

1135
00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:43,520
Speaker 5: That's probably he's not wrong. They're surprisingly hearty.

1136
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:47,080
Speaker 3: How do you feel about I don't want to spoil

1137
00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:48,440
Speaker 3: the no bunts, but like.

1138
00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:51,840
Speaker 4: What was a bad like a bad sunflower seed? You

1139
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:52,719
Speaker 4: spoiled it?

1140
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:53,400
Speaker 3: Uh?

1141
00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:55,440
Speaker 4: No, you know that. You know you get a random

1142
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:56,239
Speaker 4: bad sunflowers?

1143
00:53:57,400 --> 00:53:59,080
Speaker 3: What did you go with sunflower seeds?

1144
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:02,000
Speaker 4: Well, it's uh, the segment's called you're you have to

1145
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:06,320
Speaker 4: eliminate one. Okay, it's like picking started picking two peanuts,

1146
00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:09,800
Speaker 4: pistachios or sunflower seeds? Which one would you eliminate? That's

1147
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 4: a ball specifically.

1148
00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:13,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're all my I.

1149
00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:15,239
Speaker 4: Got rid of the fancy pistachio.

1150
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:17,799
Speaker 3: I think, I think you're right, and I love that's

1151
00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:20,799
Speaker 3: my favorite of the three though. But out at the ballpark, yeah,

1152
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:25,279
Speaker 3: oddly interesting. At a stadium, I'm eliminating pistachios. But away

1153
00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:29,960
Speaker 3: from a stadium, I'm eliminating peanuts. Yes, yes, sunflower seeds

1154
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:33,359
Speaker 3: sticking around so versatile. I just love making a mess

1155
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:36,680
Speaker 3: at a baseball stadium, so like, yeah, just sunflower seeds

1156
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:39,080
Speaker 3: or peanuts too. You can make a real mess of

1157
00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:45,480
Speaker 3: peanuts unshell too, not nearly as much as a peanut

1158
00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:46,440
Speaker 3: because it's got that.

1159
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:51,000
Speaker 4: It's a nice opportunity just to just to be a pig.

1160
00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:54,359
Speaker 3: Totally, totally. I love, like, yeah, just making I want

1161
00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:56,480
Speaker 3: a pile of crap underneath me at the end of

1162
00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:57,120
Speaker 3: a baseball game.

1163
00:54:57,200 --> 00:55:00,600
Speaker 5: That's always slop season in the l people are just

1164
00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:01,719
Speaker 5: covered in nutshells.

1165
00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:04,160
Speaker 3: Like I said, baseball stuff. Yeah.

1166
00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:06,960
Speaker 5: The night Victor wemban Yama, he's in the United States,

1167
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:09,120
Speaker 5: went to New York last night. Took an a Yankees

1168
00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:12,239
Speaker 5: game throughout the first pitch got but the best part

1169
00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:14,319
Speaker 5: of it was the picture of him holding a.

1170
00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:16,719
Speaker 3: Baseball Oh my god, look at only in.

1171
00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:19,640
Speaker 5: His fingers, doesn't even need the pall to grasp the

1172
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:20,319
Speaker 5: entire thing.

1173
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:24,840
Speaker 3: It looks like like a golf ball. It right, like

1174
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:27,080
Speaker 3: how we would maybe hold it not I don't know,

1175
00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:29,239
Speaker 3: maybe even smaller they got to get in to do.

1176
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:32,200
Speaker 5: I think it was Julia okafor right, that like held

1177
00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:35,080
Speaker 5: fourteen tennis balls or something like that around draft time.

1178
00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:41,759
Speaker 5: He could go fifteen, maybe get the twenty Jesus wow. So,

1179
00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:44,080
Speaker 5: as you can imagine, the first pitch didn't go so

1180
00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:47,120
Speaker 5: well for Victor. Hard to control a tiny ball like

1181
00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:49,560
Speaker 5: that with foot and a half long fingers.

1182
00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:51,120
Speaker 3: But we've all.

1183
00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:54,160
Speaker 5: Seen a bad first pitch before. Yeah, not totally unusual.

1184
00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:59,520
Speaker 5: But Wemby's other throw last night was different. At one

1185
00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:02,640
Speaker 5: point when Yama turns to the crowd and just chucks

1186
00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:04,400
Speaker 5: the baseball into the stands.

1187
00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:05,840
Speaker 3: That's a hard ball.

1188
00:56:06,080 --> 00:56:08,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, people are not right, people are freaked out.

1189
00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:13,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, so booty. So that's what the manager was reacting to, right, Like,

1190
00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:15,680
Speaker 3: holy crowd, Like you're not supposed to throw it that

1191
00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:20,840
Speaker 3: hard into the crowd away from it. Very funny. He

1192
00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:23,520
Speaker 3: just guns it up there.

1193
00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:25,000
Speaker 5: Bad, just chucks it in the stands.

1194
00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:28,400
Speaker 3: But like maybe he's never I don't know. I was like,

1195
00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:30,640
Speaker 3: maybe he doesn't know, like maybe he's never watched a

1196
00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:32,319
Speaker 3: baseball game for crying alone. I don't know.

1197
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:34,600
Speaker 5: They're like, I mean you see outfielders like at the

1198
00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:36,160
Speaker 5: end of an inning or like they're doing their.

1199
00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:38,400
Speaker 3: Little warm ups. Toss it to a kid, no problem, right.

1200
00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:39,640
Speaker 5: Like, yeah, it looks like a thing to do.

1201
00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:45,520
Speaker 3: It's just so funny. Liked it like too low, just

1202
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:47,640
Speaker 3: like the person in the first or second row.

1203
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:51,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, he aimed for the guy with the Yankees jersey

1204
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:53,000
Speaker 4: who looked like he was ready for the ball. And

1205
00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:55,319
Speaker 4: he's lucky because there's a there's a person who is

1206
00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:58,680
Speaker 4: right that's like a woman with a sweater draped over

1207
00:56:58,719 --> 00:57:02,239
Speaker 4: her shoulders thinking this is pre game. I'm here, I'm

1208
00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:06,520
Speaker 4: here to this isn't doing live action.

1209
00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:08,480
Speaker 5: What if you threw that kid in the first row?

1210
00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:11,040
Speaker 5: People are great?

1211
00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:13,120
Speaker 4: Cliff freaked out. That is so good.

1212
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:15,480
Speaker 3: What did you think of his pitch? The actual pitch

1213
00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:20,840
Speaker 3: that went a little uh wide, left wide, left, just outside.

1214
00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:23,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, the second one that was probably his second attempt

1215
00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:25,120
Speaker 4: to throwing a ball much better. Yeah, yeah, he just

1216
00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:27,720
Speaker 4: needed to get one under his belt. But it is

1217
00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:31,920
Speaker 4: strange seeing anybody with extremely long figures. That's exactly what

1218
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:33,640
Speaker 4: they always say. You just can't throw a pitch. You

1219
00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:37,240
Speaker 4: just can't throw a ball when you've you literally your

1220
00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:38,960
Speaker 4: fingers are touching on the other side.

1221
00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:40,760
Speaker 3: Of the ball. You think you can thrown a basketball

1222
00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:41,320
Speaker 3: for a strike.

1223
00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:43,200
Speaker 4: I think that's what he thought. He was throwing into

1224
00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:45,280
Speaker 4: the stands. It's like, oh, yeah, I'm in a basketball game.

1225
00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:48,200
Speaker 4: Here you go. But he threw a rock.

1226
00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:52,080
Speaker 3: He was just testing his arm. He's like, oh, I

1227
00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:56,320
Speaker 3: see what I got. Yeah. Uh. He Also I saw,

1228
00:57:56,640 --> 00:58:00,080
Speaker 3: like pregame, I guess he picked up a bat and

1229
00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:01,960
Speaker 3: he was taking some cuts with it. I didn't see

1230
00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:04,320
Speaker 3: a pitch, but I saw him pick up a bat.

1231
00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:07,520
Speaker 3: Thing looked like a like a whiffle ball bat, an

1232
00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:10,720
Speaker 3: MLB Pro baseball bat. It looked like a toothpick. Him

1233
00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:14,000
Speaker 3: cutting it looks so funny. Uh. And the other Webbenyama

1234
00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:17,880
Speaker 3: news that I think just went up maybe last night

1235
00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:20,560
Speaker 3: or this morning. He was on JJ Reddick's podcast. Did

1236
00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:22,560
Speaker 3: you see this or hear this? People are tweeting at us.

1237
00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:25,040
Speaker 3: I haven't listened to it yet, but I think wemen

1238
00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:28,440
Speaker 3: Yama tells JJ Reddick that he kicked out a weggie.

1239
00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:33,320
Speaker 3: So a weggie was stuck and he kicked.

1240
00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:35,840
Speaker 4: It out, as did you hear this a long, long

1241
00:58:35,920 --> 00:58:38,000
Speaker 4: leg kicking this morning?

1242
00:58:38,040 --> 00:58:38,640
Speaker 3: Did he say this?

1243
00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:42,600
Speaker 6: He did, and it was a fascinating explanation. JJ Redick

1244
00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:45,840
Speaker 6: couldn't believe. He was like, did you did you flip?

1245
00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:47,600
Speaker 3: And was right, what do you mean?

1246
00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:50,360
Speaker 6: No, And he's like, I just kicked it, like, just

1247
00:58:50,560 --> 00:58:52,000
Speaker 6: kicked the we and he landed.

1248
00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:54,040
Speaker 3: So he just jumped in the air and then just

1249
00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:57,120
Speaker 3: kicked his leg up totally crap kicked it.

1250
00:58:57,160 --> 00:58:58,520
Speaker 6: And he said he was fourteen years old. This is

1251
00:58:58,520 --> 00:59:03,479
Speaker 6: when he was fourteen A couple. Yeah, he was saying

1252
00:59:03,480 --> 00:59:05,840
Speaker 6: that I wish I had it on camera. That was

1253
00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:07,760
Speaker 6: a question. He's like, I wish I had this on camera,

1254
00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:08,600
Speaker 6: but we didn't.

1255
00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:10,880
Speaker 3: Have it on even he recognizes how cool it was.

1256
00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:12,240
Speaker 3: He's like, that's pretty cool.

1257
00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:12,840
Speaker 4: I did that.

1258
00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:16,040
Speaker 3: Wow, Wow, we gotta see it.

1259
00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:18,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's got to do it in a game.

1260
00:59:18,680 --> 00:59:19,959
Speaker 5: He's got to do it in a game.

1261
00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:23,680
Speaker 3: That would be so awesome, a legend, amazing.

1262
00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:25,720
Speaker 4: But do you doubt that he could do it? I

1263
00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:26,400
Speaker 4: think he could.

1264
00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:30,919
Speaker 3: Oh no, no, he looks flexible. Yeah, it's got some hops. No, Yeah,

1265
00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:33,760
Speaker 3: you could do it. Guys, keep telling me he keeps growing,

1266
00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:37,480
Speaker 3: he gets longer and longer seven three four five? What

1267
00:59:37,640 --> 00:59:40,880
Speaker 3: is he? Now? That's great? Him holding anything is gonna

1268
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:42,880
Speaker 3: be fun here. I know we've done this before with

1269
00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:46,720
Speaker 3: Kawhi and obviously, like you said, Julia Loka four huge myths.

1270
00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:49,200
Speaker 3: But I don't care do it? You know? Any any

1271
00:59:49,240 --> 00:59:52,320
Speaker 3: photo of Yao was always amazing. Definitely get who cares?

1272
00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:59,520
Speaker 3: I love it? JJ Reddick is six foot four, Yeah, yeah, yeah?

1273
00:59:59,880 --> 01:00:03,320
Speaker 3: Was you are a photo of women Yama with Aaron Judge.

1274
01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:06,040
Speaker 3: Didn't see it if there was, but like, that's a

1275
01:00:06,120 --> 01:00:08,080
Speaker 3: giant dude. You want to always see him, like even

1276
01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:10,440
Speaker 3: with like big, big, big guys, and you're like, whoa,

1277
01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:13,200
Speaker 3: that's what he looks like compared to a huge dude.

1278
01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:16,560
Speaker 5: I just saw the picture with a baseball man. It

1279
01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:18,880
Speaker 5: looks ridiculous, incredible, It's incredible.

1280
01:00:19,240 --> 01:00:20,320
Speaker 3: There'll be lots more of this.

1281
01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:22,960
Speaker 4: Sure looks like he's choking up on the barrel, but

1282
01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:23,800
Speaker 4: he's just holding it.

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01:00:23,880 --> 01:00:25,040
Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: A meet and where you can bring any object. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 5: like you pay more, bigger the object is. Oh wow,

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Speaker 5: it's like a baseball bat. Thirty bucks a flat screen

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Speaker 5: TV fifty dollars.

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Speaker 3: Okay before the draft draft tomorrow night, women yama uh

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Speaker 3: sets up a stand. You can pay fifty dollars to

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Speaker 3: come bring an item for him to hold. What would

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Speaker 3: you bring? What would you love to see?

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Speaker 5: A surfboard, like a whole band's surfboard, Like, hold it

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Speaker 5: up next to you. He's bigger than the board.

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Speaker 3: That's a great answer. I like that answer. What about you?

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Speaker 4: Oh man, Yeah, I like that.

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Speaker 3: So you go big, which makes sense. But what about

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Speaker 3: him holding a yo yo? Oh? Yeah, like I want

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Speaker 3: to see how like him trying to yo yo? Yeah

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Speaker 3: with those long ass fingers.

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Speaker 5: Or one of those like smaller sized cans of pop

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Speaker 5: that's like looks small.

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Speaker 3: Anyways, Hello, I took a photo when I was in

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Speaker 3: Italy with a small coke bottle. Yeah, oh nuts for him? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: All right, Well that's another fun question for everybody out there.

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Speaker 3: What would you like to see? Women? You'm a hold

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Speaker 3: get to photoshopping everybody. Let's call it there, good old

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Speaker 3: slot podcast here with all these NBA trade rumors, some

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Speaker 3: of the free agency news, and ending there with Victor.

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Speaker 3: We will have a very likely a podcast tomorrow morning,

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Speaker 3: because I'm sure there will be a lot more trade

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Speaker 3: rumors to sink karteeth into. We'll get you ready for

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Speaker 3: the NBA Draft Lottery. We will be on playback tomorrow night.

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Speaker 3: I believe it's an eight pm Eastern start for the

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Speaker 3: draft lottery, so or for the draft excuse me? So well,

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Speaker 3: we'll do either just the lottery picks, maybe the first round.

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Speaker 3: It can take a while, can't it.

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Speaker 4: Oh? Absolutely, yeah, that's longer than a basketball.

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Speaker 3: So but just chopping it up. First three are gonna

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Speaker 3: be exciting. Yeah yeah, yeah, And lord, I mean there

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Speaker 3: might be huge trades tomorrow night maybe, which would be

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Speaker 3: fun to react to in real time.

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Speaker 5: So any a little buzz around five, I would sayin's

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Speaker 5: possible trade. Like we mentioned, the Pacers have a ton

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Speaker 5: of picks.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, things should be happening, should be fun. So yeah,

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Speaker 3: that's tomorrow night, but we'll be here very likely tomorrow

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Speaker 3: morning at tennam Eastern. Hit that light button. Make sure

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Speaker 3: you subscribe, all you podcast listeners, we'd love you to

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Speaker 3: lead your boys a five star rating and review. Until then,

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Speaker 3: Clipper bro you heard here first, have a great time,

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Speaker 3: turn up.

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Speaker 6: Love you guys awesome.

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Speaker 4: Thanks for joining us, and remember you use the term

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Speaker 4: sink your teeth into What about Victor Wembina. I'm a

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Speaker 4: holding a foot long hot dog. It would just be

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Speaker 4: a look like a regular hot dog. I imagine see.

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Speaker 5: Him like put his finger next to him.

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Speaker 4: Oh, that's a good call. Shout out to the stream

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Speaker 4: team for that one. That's that's good.

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Speaker 3: It's love to see good stuff. Guys. Embrace the day.

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Speaker 3: People