Speaker 1: Welcome to Drink Champs, the production of The Black Effect
Speaker 1: and I Heart Radio and his drinks motherfucking podcast. He's
Speaker 1: a legendary queen's rapper, He's is your boy in No
Speaker 1: r E. He's a Miami hip hop pioneer. What Up
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Speaker 1: e FN and his drink chest motherfucker? Yea? And right
Speaker 1: out When when we started the show, the FN, we said,
Speaker 1: we wanted you know this, this radio stations, and there's
Speaker 1: other podcasts for you know, up and coming and new people.
Speaker 1: But we wanted to interview legends, We wanted to interview
Speaker 1: season people, wanted to interview people who have this luxurious
Speaker 1: long list of stories and just of being a part
Speaker 1: of the game. This is not only not only a hero,
Speaker 1: but a hometown hero. She has dominated music. Then went
Speaker 1: on and you know dominated radio, which was a very
Speaker 1: hard Field, not only for a black woman before a
Speaker 1: woman period at that time. Then you know, now she
Speaker 1: got a podcast too and everything. I think she's an
Speaker 1: episode forget but forget what everisode, But I've been I'm
Speaker 1: checking it out. She got rolled down with them. I
Speaker 1: did not know this, but um, in case you don't
Speaker 1: know who we talked about, we talking about the motherfucker
Speaker 1: lest just miss motherfucking Joe. So so I was wondering
Speaker 1: who you're talking about. So, um, you know, because what's
Speaker 1: been going on? What's been going on with you? Later?
Speaker 1: So first off, I broadcast Okay, wow, okay, so this
Speaker 1: is just like it's gonna suck me up juice, that's
Speaker 1: what That's what it is. Okay, ingenious, gen Okay, now
Speaker 1: now snoop got in the glow. This is not in
Speaker 1: the glow. No, no, no, this is something different out
Speaker 1: the glow. Okay. And and it's infused with lavender. It
Speaker 1: looks sexy. It looks sexy. Yeah, thank you, well, thank so.
Speaker 1: Let's let's just take it right from the beginning, right um,
Speaker 1: because at first it was artists. It's about being an artist, right,
Speaker 1: so um, and listen for people that don't know a
Speaker 1: story of Projects is one of the craziest places in
Speaker 1: the world, not just queens in the world. So take
Speaker 1: us from there, coming from a story. So, I was,
Speaker 1: you know, always singing in the house, always trying to
Speaker 1: do talent shows and things like that, and um, and
Speaker 1: eventually I wanted to go into high school for it,
Speaker 1: taking it seriously, and then I went to Syracuse University
Speaker 1: for it. It became he went to art schools like
Speaker 1: to high school. Yeah, I went to the Fame school
Speaker 1: music and amazing experience, but well they taught you was
Speaker 1: really classical singing. And I always wanted to be R
Speaker 1: and B. So when I graduated, I met ron g
Speaker 1: h and so I started singing on his mixtapes and
Speaker 1: at that time I started hearing Yeah it was nobody
Speaker 1: was doing it. It was a smooth out the beginning
Speaker 1: of hip hop R and B. Yeah. Wow. So let
Speaker 1: me ask you something because I just um seen Trick Daddy, right,
Speaker 1: Trick Daddy is going viral because Rick Daddy said, Beyonce
Speaker 1: Cas sang all right, and it reminded me of something
Speaker 1: I thought. I heard you say. I thought, yeah, we know.
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry. IM okay, So here's my things technically
Speaker 1: maybe Mary's not the most perfect singer. Who the fuck
Speaker 1: is my issue with Mary? Because everybody knows that I've
Speaker 1: had an issue, and I'm realizing now it probably shouldn't
Speaker 1: be Mary as much as it should be towards Diddy,
Speaker 1: because when Ron and I started this whole mix tape singing,
Speaker 1: that was how we got our deal with steps On Records.
Speaker 1: The whole album was that singing on hip so people
Speaker 1: understand who don't know, singing on hip hop beats, right,
Speaker 1: which was the normal? The normal at the time. Mary's
Speaker 1: first album, you remember, was all like jazzy songs, a
Speaker 1: couple of dance songs, but it was remixed to sound
Speaker 1: like a mix tape. Diddy had gone to Ron and
Speaker 1: asked Ron to do my stuff for Mary. Ron said, know,
Speaker 1: because Jones's Miss Jones. It's my artist, and that's the
Speaker 1: style I'm using for her. Did he went behind his
Speaker 1: back like they just recently started speaking again, Yeah, okay, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: So he took the whole style. And because you know,
Speaker 1: my label, steps Son, they didn't have a lot of money.
Speaker 1: They didn't have yeah, but really really under and so
Speaker 1: um uh, what's the whatever label? M C A whatever?
Speaker 1: Was right. Yeah, a whole lot of lawsuits later. But
Speaker 1: so Uptown had the money, m c A had the money,
Speaker 1: and they already had proven success, so it's just like
Speaker 1: put it in the machine and let's just keep it.
Speaker 1: So they actually beat us to the punch, and so
Speaker 1: I always wound up looking like I was trying to
Speaker 1: sound like her. But the people in the streets know,
Speaker 1: the people that are the mixtape heads know, and now
Speaker 1: that I'm back out like they're really really feeling away
Speaker 1: and they're like, you need to get your recognition and
Speaker 1: get flowers for that. Yeah, it didn't work out music.
Speaker 1: You flipped it and did it in radio, but that
Speaker 1: so was it in ther time like that, Um, you
Speaker 1: tried to get somebody for a feature and uh music
Speaker 1: and then they fronted on you. But then they had
Speaker 1: to come back and see your ass at the radio.
Speaker 1: We're not playing not playing today. I'm excited to have
Speaker 1: you here, by the way, so you know, so to
Speaker 1: be here, has it ever been somebody who like you?
Speaker 1: You reached out, you said, yo, let me get it
Speaker 1: on the record. They didn't get on the record for
Speaker 1: whatever reason, and then they came back to the rail
Speaker 1: station and either needed a favor or how was that?
Speaker 1: Or how about someone I slept with and wanted a feature?
Speaker 1: And like, okay, okay, so I would have slept with
Speaker 1: him anyway, just to be clear. He wasn't like an
Speaker 1: asshole like that stuff, you know. But but to his defense,
Speaker 1: I was never like considered a hot R and B artist,
Speaker 1: and at that time they wanted heat matches heat. So
Speaker 1: he would go get with john Nae into a song
Speaker 1: and I'm like, am I not want it hard enough? Like?
Speaker 1: What can I do it? When you would come so
Speaker 1: later on when I'm like rocking in radio, I was kind,
Speaker 1: but it wasn't just a bust of rhym just coming
Speaker 1: up to NORML. No, he's not. We'll get back and
Speaker 1: let bust. You know, win Buster can come bust. You
Speaker 1: probably didn't know that I love himself, but yeah, that's
Speaker 1: the one that comes to mind the media because you
Speaker 1: did write about him in the book I did. I
Speaker 1: didn't hear about that, but okay, moving just didn't know.
Speaker 1: I told you that's like to take a shot. Shot
Speaker 1: on the shot and hold on, I got it's my dream. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's what that's I need to shot glass. No, I'm
Speaker 1: saying her bottle. I want to just Yeah, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: I'm watermelon. I'm gonna do a watermelon. I'm gonna do
Speaker 1: a watermelon because I'm gonna start it on slow. But
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Oh my god, this is
Speaker 1: this guy, this guy, this guy to get it. So
Speaker 1: another thing is not another thing? Is? I think The
Speaker 1: first time I ever heard Stephen A. Smith on the
Speaker 1: actual radio was actually show Yeah, rolling, first time I
Speaker 1: ever heard of him on the radio. It's like, she
Speaker 1: really I because I got a whole list, So how
Speaker 1: is that to see? You know? First off, what did
Speaker 1: Stephen A. Smith get to do to get on the
Speaker 1: mix of jo Joan show? He was just amazing easy
Speaker 1: so so he was writing for the Philadelphia Paper and No.
Speaker 1: So you know, it's crazy. I automatic thought it was
Speaker 1: New York both from Queen's No, but he so it
Speaker 1: was when I got fired from Philly and came back
Speaker 1: to Hot ninety seven. But I remembered him from writing
Speaker 1: on the Philly papers from when I was down in Philly,
Speaker 1: and he was always like an amazing writer and always
Speaker 1: had these great relationships like behind the scenes with so
Speaker 1: when we were looking for a co host, I didn't
Speaker 1: want to go normal co host comedian route. I wanted
Speaker 1: somebody that could bring a different and he's very opinionated.
Speaker 1: If you haven't known that, A so was Stephen at
Speaker 1: the time. Was he a sports commentator or he wasn't.
Speaker 1: He was just a commentator period. I think he I
Speaker 1: don't know if he was a sports commentator, but I
Speaker 1: know he wasn't to the level of which he has become,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And so we brought him on.
Speaker 1: But it was great because he could talk about everything.
Speaker 1: He could talk about the music and he's from Queens
Speaker 1: and so he talks about life issues and it was great.
Speaker 1: But he always wanted that that sports thing was his thing,
Speaker 1: and Hot probably wasn't gonna pay him what he would
Speaker 1: have wanted. And you know, he's the I believe he's
Speaker 1: the most paid sportscaster there is there is. Now did
Speaker 1: you ever see did you see that coming from the beginning? Well,
Speaker 1: ESPN's just ESPN or just ESPN? Okay, bad? I thought
Speaker 1: it was yeah, so did you see that coming? Did not?
Speaker 1: Because you know what I remember, I didn't because he's
Speaker 1: very humble and that he never got rid of that
Speaker 1: house in will Emboro. He always said, I'm never letting
Speaker 1: this go, this house go, because you just never know.
Speaker 1: And I just thought that was like real, that's like,
Speaker 1: that's how we when we grow up, the way we
Speaker 1: grow up, you always hold an one to that. But also, um,
Speaker 1: he has a he has an incredible work ethic, So
Speaker 1: I'm not surprised and I'm happy for him. He and
Speaker 1: I interviewed Rick James the day before he died. Wow
Speaker 1: the shot hold on, hold on, okay, wait a minute,
Speaker 1: you and Stephen. I can't even picture this, by the way,
Speaker 1: because I'm picturing. I can't imagine who Stephen A was.
Speaker 1: I can only picture who I wake up every day
Speaker 1: right now. So now p us to the side. It's you, Stephen.
Speaker 1: And obviously this is not zoom. This is not zoom.
Speaker 1: This is okay. And actually Rick j was he in
Speaker 1: the studio? Was he? I think he was on the
Speaker 1: phone from l A. Okay, okay, did go. But he
Speaker 1: was like before he died, either the day or two
Speaker 1: days or what I remember is the next day I
Speaker 1: was in a c and Stephen called me with the
Speaker 1: news and was like, we just interviewed this nigga. He
Speaker 1: did not sound like he, I mean, how do you sound?
Speaker 1: But we were like and I said, you realize that
Speaker 1: forever moment for us, me and you, And he was like,
Speaker 1: it's a fun up moment, but you're right, that will
Speaker 1: go down in the books. So we might have even
Speaker 1: done Rick James's final interview, and I never went back
Speaker 1: to Ebro or High nighty seven and say is it
Speaker 1: our cod Life goes on, People move on, you know,
Speaker 1: people die every day. Yeah, to talk to James, Yeah,
Speaker 1: And it was just another day on the show for us,
Speaker 1: And you just never know that's impactful. What was your
Speaker 1: at hot what was your first what was your favorite interview?
Speaker 1: When Nas and um when when Summer Jam, when jay
Speaker 1: Z did whatever he I can't remember because perfectly and
Speaker 1: Angie and Flex would not let well, I guess the
Speaker 1: station was told do not let Nas. Allegedly the station
Speaker 1: has said don't let nods come up there bashing Jack Well.
Speaker 1: The brmor was it was Mike Kaiser. Do you remember
Speaker 1: Mike Cousin? You have some good No, just that I
Speaker 1: reached out for a sponsorship. I was promised one and
Speaker 1: I'm still waiting mine. Oh yeah, okay, all right, cool,
Speaker 1: let's get to this I can continue that Kaiser had
Speaker 1: a heavy hand and what that was the rumor. The
Speaker 1: rumor was that Nas is gonna come out and Mike
Speaker 1: Kaiser had people set up supposed to hang jay Z.
Speaker 1: He supposed to hang in the middle of the wall.
Speaker 1: I have no factual proof. Remember I said the rum
Speaker 1: with no they was gonna hang like like I looked
Speaker 1: like like a dummy, a dummy of him. So the
Speaker 1: rumor has it was def jam White Kaiser was the
Speaker 1: corporate that's and was great. The rumor has it was
Speaker 1: he had people set up to pull the plug. So
Speaker 1: if of of if Nas was to be able to
Speaker 1: do that, that's the rumor. Did you hear that very moment.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I did hear the rumors the nursing.
Speaker 1: I don't know if that was even nas is play.
Speaker 1: But what I do know is that whatever transpired that night,
Speaker 1: Nas was insulted and no one would give him an outlet,
Speaker 1: and he went to power. He might have, but he
Speaker 1: came to me, Okay, I'm always the black sheet. And
Speaker 1: so when Angie's like, no, I can't do that, and
Speaker 1: Flex is like, oh yeah, because he just he just
Speaker 1: Angie too. Okay, we'll continue. So that was my mote,
Speaker 1: I think for just off top. And this was in person. Okay,
Speaker 1: he came to let him come. He was the only
Speaker 1: one where he was the black sheet, used the black seat.
Speaker 1: He was basically bad. He went to another stage and
Speaker 1: said sucked him, you know what I mean, and because
Speaker 1: he was frustrated and come on, that's QB. I'm a story.
Speaker 1: So so all right, so just just this is described
Speaker 1: this interview. So he's piste off. He didn't get a
Speaker 1: chance to perform at Summer Jack. He goes to this
Speaker 1: other stage and he says, whatever. But now this is
Speaker 1: his first time explaining himself to not only you, but
Speaker 1: to try State Area and New York. So what was
Speaker 1: his explanation why he didn't remember? I think at that
Speaker 1: point we were he was. He wasn't shock, I wasn't shot,
Speaker 1: and I think his mind was just spinning about what
Speaker 1: his reaction should But you know, Nas is very very
Speaker 1: I don't want to say, calculating, but he's a thinker.
Speaker 1: He's not a reactive person. And as as as it
Speaker 1: might seem like he's just reacting, he's always got the
Speaker 1: next three steps ahead. So he's talking, but he's still
Speaker 1: keeping it the best chess player and so no one
Speaker 1: knew that Ether was coming. No one knew were you
Speaker 1: were you at having seven? When did you have battle
Speaker 1: of beats between and takeover? I was you were I was?
Speaker 1: Can you describe that? I mean the suck sides. Everybody
Speaker 1: was clearly made made his choice, and he was on
Speaker 1: our side. He was on because k is my people
Speaker 1: like me and Kay, Like when I used to not
Speaker 1: show up for my Sunday night show, I would call
Speaker 1: him to feel in. So I feel like me and
Speaker 1: him we saw things alike. I mean no disrespect to
Speaker 1: anybody at the station because I love and the door
Speaker 1: Flex and Angie Flex started me in radio so to speak.
Speaker 1: Um produced one of those mixtapes on my very first
Speaker 1: album that was never released. So I have loved but
Speaker 1: they had their loyalty and rightly so you know, I
Speaker 1: don't know what their relationship with Jay was, but clearly
Speaker 1: it was solid and you know, accounted for. And I
Speaker 1: have mine for Nas because Nas. Had it not been
Speaker 1: for Nas talking to me, I wouldn't have done this
Speaker 1: sugar Hill. Yeah, not to mention, we used to hang like,
Speaker 1: we used to go out there and just be on
Speaker 1: the benches, you know what I mean when he was
Speaker 1: in town. But even after that, when he became huge,
Speaker 1: he never acted huge to me. He always like coming
Speaker 1: in drones. What you're doing? Wow, this is this is great? Right? Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a lot. I don't even really because you don't
Speaker 1: realize that it's history because you're just right. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: let's not let it fly over people's head. You're talking
Speaker 1: about Azy Sugar classic record. Yeah, thank you, that's classic,
Speaker 1: the biggest record of my career. So um, all right,
Speaker 1: so you would do this interview after this? Now, how
Speaker 1: is your your co workers? Because how did it? They saw?
Speaker 1: Let's be clear because nas is not just a regular
Speaker 1: interview like he is. It was and that's this time
Speaker 1: it's him a jack, So is how is it coming
Speaker 1: to work the next day? Co workers saying MS Jones,
Speaker 1: you ain't loyal the always. Everyone knows, I'm crazy. Everybody knows.
Speaker 1: When Wendy and Angie had the fight, I picked Wendy side.
Speaker 1: They really literally had to fight fish fight. Really he
Speaker 1: but I can't pinch this win machine that used to
Speaker 1: be outside the room. Yeah, it was right over there
Speaker 1: before the bathroom. Yeah, to the point I was all
Speaker 1: I was forced to take a side from the moment
Speaker 1: I got in that building, and at that time it
Speaker 1: sounds like some high school ship. No I mean by
Speaker 1: that time, let me just tell you something, um and
Speaker 1: god bless because I wanted to sound crazy, but um,
Speaker 1: we actually needed power on because it was like, how
Speaker 1: did they seven had I don't want to say too
Speaker 1: much proper because they were It wasn't how did they
Speaker 1: say it probably wouldn't be no me. So what I'm
Speaker 1: trying to say is, but it wasn't no balance. But
Speaker 1: what I mean is if I did something wrong or something,
Speaker 1: I would just be bad and that was it. It
Speaker 1: wouldn't have nothing like. So did you think at one
Speaker 1: point that like the station was just too powerful? Because
Speaker 1: it's really it was really the truth. At one point
Speaker 1: it flects didn't play your record, you were dead included
Speaker 1: you had a chance. Maybe Clue would Clue maybe, but
Speaker 1: Clue only had the money like mixtape, it was only
Speaker 1: one day a week. So what do you think that
Speaker 1: it was too much power at that time? Absolutely, how
Speaker 1: they play my ship, but the rules of the rules
Speaker 1: you need to get out of lay down and so
Speaker 1: not for nothing. When power of power one O five
Speaker 1: started three weeks prior, or, like a month prior. I
Speaker 1: had just gotten fired off A Starring Buck Wild. So
Speaker 1: I was excited at the prospect of a Power one
Speaker 1: on five. And I was in conversation with my former
Speaker 1: boss from Hot who started Power, Steve Smith, and and
Speaker 1: we were in conversation about me coming across the street
Speaker 1: and shocking New York with yeah, she's fired from the
Speaker 1: Starring Buck but now she's doing this over here. But
Speaker 1: I had a noncompete contract. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, so
Speaker 1: I can't work in New York because it's too close
Speaker 1: to Hot ninety seven. Power was too close, and and
Speaker 1: so they threatened to sue they were they were looking.
Speaker 1: Hot ninety seven was looking because they didn't like when
Speaker 1: Power came into the market. They didn't know. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think there was even something about, uh not stolen, but
Speaker 1: a hijack U r L. I think I think. Please
Speaker 1: don't if I'm wrong. I think we might have gotten
Speaker 1: the power Power one on five dot com. You are around,
Speaker 1: I believe you remember, so yeah yeah, yeah, so okay, yeah, yeah, okay, wow, yeah,
Speaker 1: this is this is this guy weird, this guy real? Okay,
Speaker 1: all right, So I no, no, no, no, okay, So
Speaker 1: why'd you get fired from Starting Buck? That's that's my question. Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's get shot too. Come on, let's go, let's go,
Speaker 1: let's go, let's go. Okay, yeah, because this is all right,
Speaker 1: let's just be clear to people who don't know, Starring
Speaker 1: Buck Wild was the wildest show at the time, wild wildest.
Speaker 1: They were doing ship They did Alia Skip. We asked
Speaker 1: about that. You ain't having to do with the La Ski, right. I.
Speaker 1: I was there in the room, and that was the
Speaker 1: beginning of my firing. But I didn't. I mean, I
Speaker 1: kind of knew I had to pick a side. Right,
Speaker 1: Let's take a shot and then we're gonna talk about that. Okay, Bottle.
Speaker 1: So what he was saying, Okay, song Buck, how did
Speaker 1: you get fired from Starbuck? Because that was that heavy
Speaker 1: poor that's the Dominican pot. So Starring Buck were writing
Speaker 1: for Source I think okay, yeah, no, wait, it was
Speaker 1: one of them. It was some magazine. They were writers,
Speaker 1: and then they submitted their stuff to Tracy, who was
Speaker 1: the UM program director at the time, just to see,
Speaker 1: you know, if she might be interested in that type
Speaker 1: of material. Tracy Clarity, right, Basic Clareny. She was the
Speaker 1: Boys and so ed Lover and Dr Dre the biggest
Speaker 1: probably morning show, well until Starring Buck came, but at
Speaker 1: that time they were the biggest. They had just left
Speaker 1: and they were constantly hid was trying to find a replacement.
Speaker 1: There were a lot of shows in between, so before
Speaker 1: Starring they went to l A or some ship and
Speaker 1: they got like a two million, but then it didn't last. Okay,
Speaker 1: So I was on I was school. It was me
Speaker 1: and fat Man School first, right, and then Tracy said
Speaker 1: in one of our meetings, I have this this group
Speaker 1: of writers, this team of writers, and they want to
Speaker 1: write for your thing. That's how they came in this
Speaker 1: right now, I know the play because I'm from Queens.
Speaker 1: I didn't know that. I still don't like, Yeah, sure
Speaker 1: you want to be a writer, you want to get
Speaker 1: in here, but I have no power, Like I'm just
Speaker 1: happy to have a job. So they're writing for us.
Speaker 1: The material that he wrote probably was great material for him,
Speaker 1: but it didn't work for me. In fat Man School,
Speaker 1: you know, put your hands up, we're happy. We're like
Speaker 1: who specifically fat Man people? Well, well it was really stared,
Speaker 1: really like a slip star. Yeah, I'm gonna throw my
Speaker 1: shoe at you. I killed that, I kill if I
Speaker 1: just killed that. So Star was writing material for Fat
Speaker 1: Man Scoop and I that was not on brands, That's
Speaker 1: what I'll call it, not on brands. But he was
Speaker 1: still you know, he was developing his relationship with Tracy
Speaker 1: all the while me and School for just trying to
Speaker 1: find our way and maintain something. But we kind of
Speaker 1: sense that they weren't investing in us because they never
Speaker 1: made the title of the show Fat Maian Scoop and
Speaker 1: Miss Jones or the shows about the school. It was
Speaker 1: a hot night seven morning show. These are things that
Speaker 1: people need to pay attention to when they're working, and
Speaker 1: they're trying to make pay attention to labeling brands if
Speaker 1: you can pay attention to Like Joe butten, he started
Speaker 1: his podcast, it was named named his podcast later and
Speaker 1: now his podcast called the Joe Bloody Podcast. You could
Speaker 1: have seen he was, He's going all all, all all
Speaker 1: the views and the acclaim that he named it. But
Speaker 1: so we knew they weren't invested in us. So one
Speaker 1: day Tracy calls me in her office after the show
Speaker 1: went off, me and Fat Maian School and she's like,
Speaker 1: close my door. Alright, so we're making a change, staring
Speaker 1: buck Wild. They're gonna be taking over the morning show,
Speaker 1: and I want you to be there with them. And
Speaker 1: I'm like, what about Scoop? She goes, Scoops going to
Speaker 1: either overnight or mid days, but he doesn't know, and
Speaker 1: if you tell him, you're fired, And she's like, you
Speaker 1: have to think about yourself, Jonesy, which in hindsight now
Speaker 1: being grown and being stung and trying to play good
Speaker 1: and still getting sucked over. She was right. I did
Speaker 1: need to look out for myself and not tell Scoop
Speaker 1: to play. So literally, just me, just stop you right there.
Speaker 1: Did you tell Scoop to play? I did not tell Scoop.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry I never came up. But but but to
Speaker 1: the point, Scoop knew my story and that as soon
Speaker 1: as I came home from college, my mom died like
Speaker 1: two weeks later. My dad died freshman year, so I
Speaker 1: had nothing. I was literally in those streets all the
Speaker 1: years that y'all heard me singing or mix tapes and
Speaker 1: doing radio filling in fighting for my life. So I
Speaker 1: think school understood. You know, I didn't have a backup plan.
Speaker 1: I had to do what I had to do, really,
Speaker 1: or I could have been in the streets for real
Speaker 1: or drug dealer's girlfriend. Sometimes I wonder it might not
Speaker 1: have been such a bad thing too, so I didn't
Speaker 1: tell school. Next week. It's like, um, this whole big
Speaker 1: takeover of publicity starring Buck Wild, Okay, let me ask
Speaker 1: you something to do. What's starring at other stations prior
Speaker 1: to that? No, they was this is their first gig.
Speaker 1: They took over the morning they did, and with the
Speaker 1: help of the Hot ninety seven engine. But what was
Speaker 1: It had to be one episode that stood out? What
Speaker 1: was the episode that stood up that that made them
Speaker 1: say let's give them the job? No, there was no episode.
Speaker 1: Itship she built right, you know how if you if
Speaker 1: I get if I get into you and you feel
Speaker 1: me as a person and you know I'm talented, the
Speaker 1: rest is just not a sign of paperwork. We'll figure
Speaker 1: the rest of the ship out, and why not give
Speaker 1: a chance, you know what I mean? And I think
Speaker 1: Tracy wanted to take Hot ninety seven maybe climax. She
Speaker 1: knew she needed to do something different to get the
Speaker 1: white boy listeners. No disrespect, love our white boys. But
Speaker 1: she wanted to hit Z one hundred people because Night seven,
Speaker 1: even though it was a pop station or chirman as
Speaker 1: I call it, it was really hip hop in the hood.
Speaker 1: The only way to be taken seriously and crap through
Speaker 1: was to get some of those good listeners. And that
Speaker 1: is what starring Buck Wilde were able to do. And
Speaker 1: I say, now, I was the feature in MS. Jones.
Speaker 1: I did my little straight man stuff, but it was
Speaker 1: his content and his perspective on the content, his spin
Speaker 1: on it. So let me, Actually, you said you didn't
Speaker 1: have anything to do with the Liyah thing, but what
Speaker 1: how was that atmosphere like what we described all? Jay
Speaker 1: Z says a part of it in his round. He says,
Speaker 1: stars mag I won't grant him an interview, but he
Speaker 1: did do so I did something something, um so any
Speaker 1: of you remix with Aaliyah And what happened was Starbuck
Speaker 1: while Elia did a car crash. She died in a
Speaker 1: plane crash, and then you know that Rocks. None of
Speaker 1: us had ever died like that was like the first Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was really the first peers, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: It was tragic and of a sudden and shot let's
Speaker 1: but basically, um, star and did a skin. It was
Speaker 1: more the writer, the writer in the room mentally comedy,
Speaker 1: I'm assuming the writer in the this is this is
Speaker 1: the definition of too soon. You know how many people
Speaker 1: say to this is how the definition got invented. Was
Speaker 1: everyone was like, you know, forget it. Even comedians like comedy.
Speaker 1: Back then, I didn't believe into Yeah, well, I don't
Speaker 1: tell he doesn't believe me. Too soon. Still to this day,
Speaker 1: they'll they'll make a joke about another comedian while he's
Speaker 1: going through it, like you know, Kevin Harderson great example
Speaker 1: of that. He was going through it with his wife,
Speaker 1: and a lot of the comedians still still gave it
Speaker 1: to him. You know, then you have so because you
Speaker 1: have to stay true to what it is. So I
Speaker 1: think that was that was the meaning that too soon
Speaker 1: for me? And so they were. I kept seeing them
Speaker 1: running in and out. We watched you watch this drink
Speaker 1: Chance look Ahead. There was a lot of going in
Speaker 1: and out of the studio that morning, and I knew
Speaker 1: they were up to something. BA hasn't Dame Das called
Speaker 1: up That was later. That was later this morning when
Speaker 1: the song was about to be playing. There was a
Speaker 1: lot of in and out of the studio starting to
Speaker 1: go out the studio that much like that, he stayed in.
Speaker 1: He used to always stay there and Reese, who was
Speaker 1: of our writers at the time, he would come in
Speaker 1: with whatever he had. This morning, there was the both
Speaker 1: of them, So I knew something was coming, but I
Speaker 1: didn't know. But I'm not stupid, so I figured what
Speaker 1: it would be. You don't even understand what they're about
Speaker 1: to play. You have no idea at And how soon
Speaker 1: was it though? This was the next day. I think
Speaker 1: this was Monday, something like that, like she passed on Monday,
Speaker 1: going in and out, and I'm knowing, I'm sensing, and
Speaker 1: then I hear a little bit of and I'm like,
Speaker 1: don't do it. I told Star, don't do this is
Speaker 1: what he says. MS. Jones knew. I knew you was
Speaker 1: up to something involving that, but I know the lengths
Speaker 1: that you was gonna go nigger because you wouldn't know.
Speaker 1: I can't be a part of that. Even if I
Speaker 1: wanted to ride with you, I can't. I can't do it.
Speaker 1: So the next it was like we're halfway through the show,
Speaker 1: maybe close to the end. They play the sound effects
Speaker 1: of a car crashing and a female voice screaming like
Speaker 1: as if it's a shrill. It's like a shrill of
Speaker 1: someone perishing by fire, Like do you want like, yeah, no,
Speaker 1: that's the plane. But then did you hear that the voice?
Speaker 1: It was like a don't remember? Okay, and so um
Speaker 1: and so you're thinking real quick in the moment, and
Speaker 1: the MIC's are on, what do I do? What do I?
Speaker 1: There's like so I said, I separated myself from the situation.
Speaker 1: I did, and so I didn't appreciate it, and the
Speaker 1: phones got turned out, and I walked off the show
Speaker 1: and Tracy came in. I don't think she knew quite
Speaker 1: the impact of what was going to happen or what
Speaker 1: was happening. But within thirty minutes, I think like sev
Speaker 1: of the Hot ninety seven advertisers had called and pulled out.
Speaker 1: She's on one phone and Judy is on another phone,
Speaker 1: and they're trying to stop the bleeding, and and and
Speaker 1: and so Tracy called me in her office at some
Speaker 1: point and like broke me down, and I was like,
Speaker 1: you know, I don't care what happens. You don't leave
Speaker 1: your co host and you don't walk off the show.
Speaker 1: I'm crying. Thank you for anticipating um so um so.
Speaker 1: It was like mixed emotions because first she was telling
Speaker 1: me you're fucked up basically, not those exact words, for
Speaker 1: leaving Stars and letting him take all the heat. But
Speaker 1: I'm like, bit, I didn't even think that. That wasn't
Speaker 1: my that wasn't one of my skates. But I got it.
Speaker 1: And so again here's Shawnzy going against the grain of
Speaker 1: hot ninety seven. Three hours later, after I'm home, she
Speaker 1: calls and goes, I'm suspending Star. The people want you.
Speaker 1: I need you to fill in and like, help clean
Speaker 1: this up, make this go away. Let me Actually, that's
Speaker 1: another example of actually, now when you come in that day,
Speaker 1: when you fill in, do you apologize on his behalf?
Speaker 1: I did not. They did not want me to read
Speaker 1: to even talk about. Right, was this the stupidest thing
Speaker 1: everyone's mind. Everybody's waiting and having the person to get
Speaker 1: to the moon. They want to see, what the hell
Speaker 1: your first words is exactly? But we're trained puppies that
Speaker 1: whenever catastrophe happened tsunami, you're told to not listen. Now
Speaker 1: tsami after that, big up dj N because dj MB
Speaker 1: had to let the people know that that Jonesy was
Speaker 1: not in the building. It was not. This is two
Speaker 1: controversy situations. There's a lot listen to and there's something
Speaker 1: that you don't even know that fool kings in the building,
Speaker 1: go do it um. And so at that point I
Speaker 1: come in and I start doing the show, and I'm
Speaker 1: trying to, you know, just do the show, and I
Speaker 1: can't talk about anything because they're trying to work out
Speaker 1: getting the advertisers back and stuff. Two airplanes decide to
Speaker 1: fly into twins towers. Now the pressure is intent to
Speaker 1: night seven. Don't know what to do about start They
Speaker 1: don't know where the direction that they need to take
Speaker 1: to stop the bleeding and make this go away. The
Speaker 1: two planes took that ship away because when eleven happened. Sorry, Leah,
Speaker 1: this is the leading story. Yeah, it's like erased everything.
Speaker 1: It's like start off. So be it not for I
Speaker 1: don't even know, like be it not for nine eleven?
Speaker 1: Start might there might have been a different outcome right now,
Speaker 1: still not be so Startom had nothing to do with that.
Speaker 1: Oh no, that was all It's not me, but it
Speaker 1: was my it was my on my watch. Yeah, that
Speaker 1: was years later, and and and and so here's the thing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: nine eleven happened. We we we everybody, the America shifts gears.
Speaker 1: The focus is no longer, no longer racist, right exactly,
Speaker 1: although they've forgotten about this gorgeous, smart, intelligent black girl
Speaker 1: that died in a plane crash that just got tossed away.
Speaker 1: Now we're all one, come out and help, you know.
Speaker 1: And so you know when that happened, Start got an
Speaker 1: opportunity to be responsible and do the right thing. He got,
Speaker 1: he got like a second chance. But here's what's funny
Speaker 1: about that, because didn't jay Z drop an album on
Speaker 1: nine eleven as well? Did he? Yeah? Yeah, on that
Speaker 1: on that one album was it Blueprint on that day
Speaker 1: of nine eleven, So you would think it would like
Speaker 1: even it out offset, Yeah, off set it to a
Speaker 1: little I'm asking, I'm just I wasn't even a wall.
Speaker 1: Anything's gonna offset nine eleven. Offset, you know, like the
Speaker 1: bounce of of of Aaliyah's disrespect because once again it
Speaker 1: was disrespectful to a dead person like that album had
Speaker 1: to already be in the right. You have two years.
Speaker 1: You couldn't go back in a change the line, PolyGram
Speaker 1: or Polly Door or whoever, it is, that's printing. So
Speaker 1: that was that honestly, was just probably the stars lining up.
Speaker 1: So let me bouncing around. Did Jay and Dame ever
Speaker 1: take that person with you when the lah? Never? I
Speaker 1: mean so they were my after that, they were my champions.
Speaker 1: They're like Dame showed up to my birthday party? Are line? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was on the good side and he they've they've
Speaker 1: always they put me in their movies. That of a
Speaker 1: Dynasty for Soldiers, thank you st right, Yeah, we're Kevin
Speaker 1: Hart before Kevin Hart was like really really so you know?
Speaker 1: And so I didn't Sometimes should be happening so fast,
Speaker 1: you don't know the right thing to And I just
Speaker 1: did what I knew. I couldn't be a part of
Speaker 1: I knew what that outcome would look like if I
Speaker 1: had stayed in that chair. So I bounced. I abandoned things.
Speaker 1: I have abandonment issues, so I leave when I don't.
Speaker 1: Let's give on another shot. Didn't want to about when
Speaker 1: do you win to try to kill you? Okay, you
Speaker 1: gotta finish it, so now you can keep playing. You're
Speaker 1: saying something. I have some friends from um, you know
Speaker 1: Queen's flip. Yes that I work with that came down here,
Speaker 1: but I want to shout out absolutely, yeah, no problem good.
Speaker 1: This is DJ G Money. He does the Queen's flip
Speaker 1: me on his back to bring me back this whole time.
Speaker 1: Come on five, we're gonna bring you in at the end,
Speaker 1: but we're gonna give us, give us five now, come on,
Speaker 1: come on, come on one bro. Yeah, man down here,
Speaker 1: this family his family. I just have to show some
Speaker 1: part family. Yeah, you're gonna bring you in that there. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's like. I like this. I like this. I'm like,
Speaker 1: what were you talking about, tsunamy. You want to know
Speaker 1: what you're talking about? So I heard something about this
Speaker 1: and that's when you we're gonna talk about when you
Speaker 1: win trying to get a killer. Okay, So there's another
Speaker 1: parody song situation. Yes, what's with morning shows and parody songs.
Speaker 1: It's a big deal and radio sometimes they've been doing
Speaker 1: that right right, So remember now we're trying to get
Speaker 1: that Z one hundred. So that's what it is, trying
Speaker 1: to compete with that and get that audience. So she
Speaker 1: still do these songs parodies to these days if you
Speaker 1: look at right. But I mean we're talking about like
Speaker 1: stuff just like you know everyone is pleasing to her
Speaker 1: wreck right now. Everybody don't want to fit nobody right now.
Speaker 1: It's called flip in a minute, you know, right, So
Speaker 1: go back to Ratchet, your mother, your father, kids, and
Speaker 1: going back to Tai. What happens to described to people,
Speaker 1: this was like the world's worst tsunami that at least
Speaker 1: we picked you mad. People died, people died. So this
Speaker 1: song comes out, and what is the song? Do you
Speaker 1: remember how the song? At this point, so Starr had
Speaker 1: fired me, I'm in Philly. I'm doing great in Philly.
Speaker 1: Big shout out to Philly health. When you shall Star
Speaker 1: fired you now Star? No, no, no, it was Star okay,
Speaker 1: So after you do know it was the least it
Speaker 1: was so so after that he rebounded. Ratings went back
Speaker 1: up after not allowed how much time is this now? What?
Speaker 1: I don't know what year the leads it was. It
Speaker 1: was close enough that you knew he was still salty
Speaker 1: about me abandoning him on the show. So he knew
Speaker 1: when he came back he was gonna fire you evention
Speaker 1: probably And then when he fired before he fired me,
Speaker 1: Tracy had already come to me with a new contract.
Speaker 1: We had already agreed to on the amount. I was good,
Speaker 1: but under that show or yeah under that show, No,
Speaker 1: under that show. And she knew I had just bought
Speaker 1: a new apartment. I had just gotten. I bought a
Speaker 1: new apartment on one sixteenth at Lennox. That apartment building
Speaker 1: it called I think it's a Renaissance, no the whatever
Speaker 1: it is just on the Corta Lenox and won sixth team.
Speaker 1: I had just gotten it, and I was so excited.
Speaker 1: She knew this ain't the time to be firing a nigga,
Speaker 1: but Star I renegotiated and maybe part of the new
Speaker 1: terms where that he got to decide who would be
Speaker 1: on his show, because going in, she put me on
Speaker 1: the show because she knew starring buck Wild needed someone familiar,
Speaker 1: that had been there, someone that could actually read and
Speaker 1: articulate and has a relationship with artists. Those the background
Speaker 1: of the artist starring buck Wild were anti artists. For
Speaker 1: those of you that don't know, they didn't know. They
Speaker 1: might have known a lot, but the artist didn't necessarily
Speaker 1: funk with that. The good thing about Jonesie is that
Speaker 1: everybody loves Jonesie to make some molay to that. So
Speaker 1: I was there. I served the purpose after that Aliat thing.
Speaker 1: My purpose didn't much matter because he rebounded and then
Speaker 1: renegotiated with him, and then she said started on once,
Speaker 1: you wouldn't show anymore. I said, you're my boys. I'm
Speaker 1: not working for Star. She's like, yeah, well, but meet
Speaker 1: with him, talk to him, you know, just make him think.
Speaker 1: Do whatever you have to do. It is what she said,
Speaker 1: do whatever you have to do to remain a part
Speaker 1: of that show. I was in Atlantic City the next weekend.
Speaker 1: I came home early. Me and my girlfriend Shire recent
Speaker 1: changing faces. Do you mind if I stroke you are
Speaker 1: so we're not in Atlantic say, I'm like, bitch, we
Speaker 1: gotta go home because I gotta kiss up the Star.
Speaker 1: I pulled up to his building. He comes out. He's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's not me, it's the other guys on the show.
Speaker 1: They don't think that you're loyal. They don't want you around. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So basically, he doesn't give me my job back, and
Speaker 1: I'm like jobless with this new apartment and arleum, and
Speaker 1: I don't know what I'm going to do. Wendy gets worried.
Speaker 1: Everyone got worried. The Stop is gonna fire me Before
Speaker 1: I did, Wendy calls now at that point, Kevin her
Speaker 1: husband or her ex husband now it was called the Shots.
Speaker 1: He did not want me and Wendy to remain friends
Speaker 1: because he always thought I was a threat. So she's
Speaker 1: whispering on the phone, Jumps, I know you just got
Speaker 1: let go, and I know you need a job. Call
Speaker 1: this person and that person in Philly. Tell them that
Speaker 1: Wendy told you to call. And I wound up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so that's why I say, despite them trying to have
Speaker 1: me murdered, I can't be but so mad because but
Speaker 1: so that's what before. So Leanna get back to the
Speaker 1: mid Okay to the murder A lot of ship because
Speaker 1: songs like murder, I said, soul. It was like what
Speaker 1: a lot of people are experienced right now. There's an
Speaker 1: a hate bill that went around and so Tracey. So
Speaker 1: so it's kind of out of order. So Wendy did that.
Speaker 1: I went to Philly. I'm in Philly. Rocket Star is
Speaker 1: calling my phone, harassing me on my voicemail. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: think you're doing something down in Philly, but I'm about
Speaker 1: to come for you. They're about to have me syndicated
Speaker 1: in Philly, and I'm gonna take you down. He's on
Speaker 1: my voice boil saying these things. Yeah, that's how people
Speaker 1: was back and a basic yourself to jail back then.
Speaker 1: So eventually I do wind up coming back to New York.
Speaker 1: And when I come back to New York, Tracy again,
Speaker 1: she's hired. Do you remember Opi and Anthony. She hired
Speaker 1: their producer, Rick Delgado. So if you know Opie and Anthony,
Speaker 1: you know that star Buck wall ain't got shipped on
Speaker 1: the antics that those two they had, for example, a
Speaker 1: couple having sex, and I think it was the same
Speaker 1: somebody who yeah, one of the cathedrals. I don't even
Speaker 1: know the name of the continue, but yeah, he's so bad,
Speaker 1: and so she hired so bad and so he was.
Speaker 1: Now my come back to New York, Jones is coming back.
Speaker 1: I've never met this man. She hired him to be
Speaker 1: my producer. Now, I am nine months pregnant with Jalen.
Speaker 1: Big shout out to Jaylen my son. Okay, okay, And
Speaker 1: I'm pregnant and so I'm grateful to have a job.
Speaker 1: And um so I'm home because I had just had him.
Speaker 1: In December, tsunami happened, if we call a tsunami. Sorry me,
Speaker 1: Envy and those of and like January February, I was
Speaker 1: home nursing him. But what Hot nineties seven did to
Speaker 1: accommodate me at that time because they wanted me really
Speaker 1: bad to come back because now starts across the street
Speaker 1: at Power one on five and what's it called the
Speaker 1: MS Jones Show or Jones Spirit? It was called MS
Speaker 1: Jones Miss Jones in the Morning. Yeah, So when I
Speaker 1: told them that I needed, I'll do your show, but
Speaker 1: I can't be coming all the way like come on.
Speaker 1: Like they set up what was now Zoom ten years
Speaker 1: ahead of time. They paid like ten tho dollars a
Speaker 1: month for me to have a TV at home where
Speaker 1: I could nurse Jalen and I could see DJ Envy
Speaker 1: Miss Info. Yeah, this is before the technology was even
Speaker 1: like accessible to people. And so Rick Delgado came up
Speaker 1: with this tsunami song thing, and so he's like through
Speaker 1: the TV, he's telling me, I came up with this idea.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna play it whatever whatever. He plays it. And
Speaker 1: this is sad to say, how asleep at the wheel
Speaker 1: people be, but he played it in the six o'clock
Speaker 1: hour six o'clock make doesn't really give a fuck because
Speaker 1: they're either getting off work or still sleepy and getting
Speaker 1: to work ahead. And so Dr Jeff, who you know
Speaker 1: from Love and Hip Hop, but he was on my
Speaker 1: show first. He came in at eight o'clock. Yeah, he
Speaker 1: came in at eight o'clock every whatever morning that was.
Speaker 1: And we're talking about the tsunami song because this info
Speaker 1: was like she was like, I shouldn't have done that.
Speaker 1: I'm telling y'all. She really was the adult in the room.
Speaker 1: And so we're like, alright, but whatever, and I'm not there.
Speaker 1: I'm seeing through a TV and I'm like, the show
Speaker 1: gotta keep going. They did it, but we gotta keep going.
Speaker 1: Dr Jeff comes in and goes, what are y'all talking about?
Speaker 1: Can I hear the song? We played the song in
Speaker 1: the eight o'clock hour, which we find out later on
Speaker 1: is the most listen to hour, So him asking, what
Speaker 1: are you talking about? Let me hear it is? This
Speaker 1: is on the air. Oh yeah, so Rick plays that motherfucker.
Speaker 1: And when I tell you they come to salespeople come running.
Speaker 1: I'm watching through the TV and I'm saying, I'm like,
Speaker 1: what's going on? And I'm home but I'm still present.
Speaker 1: It's like, I know it's going down like it was
Speaker 1: different because I couldn't be there physically to manage it.
Speaker 1: I'm home now, I'm a mom, I'm soft and pink.
Speaker 1: I'm not with the ships. But I got with a
Speaker 1: real quick because the boss then was Barry Mayo. Tracy
Speaker 1: is now gone, Barry Mayo brought me back. He drives
Speaker 1: from New York all the way to will and borrow
Speaker 1: big shout out to your partner, Capone, Yeah, exactly, hang
Speaker 1: out a little and he says, we got a problem.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, what's going on? He's like, the world
Speaker 1: is mad and they want your head on the platter.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, why my head? Well, you played the song, bitch,
Speaker 1: I'm here. How am I playing the song? So what
Speaker 1: the play was? I believe he was in trouble because
Speaker 1: now he is cooperate. Who approved that he's the he's
Speaker 1: the GM okay okay, right? And and earlier that morning
Speaker 1: came out later on big shout out to DJ Envy
Speaker 1: and research that he came into the studio after it
Speaker 1: was played and was like, y'all, it's sick motherfucker's but
Speaker 1: that was funny as how Allegedly, but Tsunami didn't go away.
Speaker 1: It didn't go over well and it did not go away.
Speaker 1: And so that was the a community at first, or
Speaker 1: this was just anybody who was just at first it
Speaker 1: was everybody. Everybody was it was too sensitive, it was
Speaker 1: very it was wildly offensive, it was distasteful, it was shameful,
Speaker 1: and it was just not where we needed to be.
Speaker 1: There was no need, like there's a ship we could
Speaker 1: have found that was funny. But again you're dealing with
Speaker 1: Opi and Anthony's producer. This is what they do, said
Speaker 1: Anthony opening Anthony's producer Rick Delgado, op Opie Opie Opie
Speaker 1: and Anthony's producer, Rick Delgado. This is right up the
Speaker 1: lane of the ship that they that they did. So
Speaker 1: he knew he was hired to get with the ships.
Speaker 1: So now everyone's blaming me because now the phones are
Speaker 1: ringing of the average McDonald said, by and now I'm
Speaker 1: going to power. See before they didn't have another station
Speaker 1: to go to when Aaliyah happened. Power wasn't it wasn't
Speaker 1: even invent uh what's the word, right, It wasn't created then.
Speaker 1: So it's like, al right, take your money, by bitch,
Speaker 1: where you're gonna put it now? There's another street and
Speaker 1: guess what, they're open. They're willing to give you right
Speaker 1: and they just ate that ship up and stars on
Speaker 1: the radio going, oh, those tsunami and sensitive bastards down
Speaker 1: the block, bring your money here. Your money is good
Speaker 1: with us. Will never insult your community. He was not
Speaker 1: apartment No, he was at power then. So he's highlighting it.
Speaker 1: He's like, remember remember what they said about you guys.
Speaker 1: Like he's just twisting, twisting, twisting it. And so now
Speaker 1: corporate at Hot on the seven has to make a decision.
Speaker 1: Now I'm newly back. I just came back like three
Speaker 1: months prior. And so they sent the lawyer. This is
Speaker 1: what happens, boys and girls, when when you've gone too
Speaker 1: far at your job. They got the white boys, the lawyers.
Speaker 1: They came in overnight and they met secretly with everybody
Speaker 1: on my show individually by themselves to get the story
Speaker 1: of what the funk happened. So me, this info is
Speaker 1: piste off. Like no one's talking to her because we're like, oh,
Speaker 1: fuck you, you're probably the one that told the agents
Speaker 1: to come and boycott us, envy and research her name,
Speaker 1: miss Tag. But she was like, I call her research
Speaker 1: because he was like, our full research department, um are
Speaker 1: being interviewed. And the story was that miss Jones sung
Speaker 1: on the song and because it's her show, she's responsible
Speaker 1: for this. So when the lawyers spoke to Envy and
Speaker 1: and Research, they said, so they're asking the questions and
Speaker 1: they're like, yeah, Rick did the song. They're like, well,
Speaker 1: who's singing on the song because it says Rashwan this
Speaker 1: DJ Envy Tasha and we know that's miss Jones and
Speaker 1: Rick made him do it. We know this all right,
Speaker 1: but maybe he didn't. We didn't. Maybe he didn't, but
Speaker 1: but were voices from that show on that song. So
Speaker 1: when he said and the Jones, you know, she was
Speaker 1: singing too, and he was like, Envy and Research were like,
Speaker 1: the Jones she hasn't been here since November and they're like,
Speaker 1: wait a minute, what how has she not? We hear
Speaker 1: her every day. So and he's like, we have the
Speaker 1: system where she logs on the morning and she pops
Speaker 1: up on the TV screen. They would have fucking fired
Speaker 1: the pregnant in research. She did too, because she confirmed it.
Speaker 1: So the lawyers are now like, this ain't what Barry
Speaker 1: Mayo told us. Allegedly so I'm thinking and the people
Speaker 1: that love me are thinking that Barry Mayo, who was
Speaker 1: the GM, was trying to sacrifice me for his letting.
Speaker 1: That whole thing happened, and once I'm fired, he saved.
Speaker 1: No one asked, right, and then you know, they don't
Speaker 1: let you talk about it again. It's right. So I
Speaker 1: knew that what was about to happen, and well, Jalen's
Speaker 1: dad at the time told me he saw the play.
Speaker 1: My sister is a real big producer in daytime television.
Speaker 1: She has like five Emmy Awards and like five hundred nominations.
Speaker 1: She produces The View. Before that, she produced Nancy Grace
Speaker 1: and Johnny Cocker. She saw my name on the news
Speaker 1: because America knew about the tsunami song. It was bigger
Speaker 1: than New York, it was bigger than Nino Brown. It
Speaker 1: was international news and everybody hated the Stones because that's
Speaker 1: what they were being given as responsible for the tsunami song.
Speaker 1: And no, no, no, just tsunami. My sister called Nancy
Speaker 1: Grace because she's like, I know TV, I know how
Speaker 1: narratives are painted if there's no one countering that, and
Speaker 1: Hot ninety seven is not defended. My sister Nancy Grace said,
Speaker 1: tell her to call Mel Sacks. He's the best attorney.
Speaker 1: I hope she has the money, but he's the only
Speaker 1: one that can fix her. At that time, little Kim
Speaker 1: was in a little trouble and her attorney was Mel Sacks.
Speaker 1: I called Mel Sacks. He had already known. Really he's
Speaker 1: deceased since then. He's like, come to my office. I
Speaker 1: need fifty grand and I will fix this. We get
Speaker 1: the fifty grand. We go to his office. Kim's coming
Speaker 1: out of the elevator. I'm going in and he goes, oh,
Speaker 1: miss Jones and miss Jones because her real name is
Speaker 1: Kimbla Jones. I tell him what happened. He's like, I
Speaker 1: already know, I'm gonna I can fix this, and um,
Speaker 1: I just need your your money, and um, he said,
Speaker 1: you know what's gonna happen. First of all, no one's
Speaker 1: gonna want to be on the on the hook for
Speaker 1: firing a black pregnant woman. But when they find out
Speaker 1: that you weren't even on the song, so we had
Speaker 1: to tell them that the Tasha that was on the
Speaker 1: song singing wasn't me. Researched his first name, Miss Tasha
Speaker 1: I'm Tarsha, She's Tasha. She was the one that was singing,
Speaker 1: but she was singing it because Rick del Gotto told
Speaker 1: her Rick hadn't stepped up. Rick cut has put all
Speaker 1: this ship and smashed and then I was trying to
Speaker 1: keep his job and I get it, but we all
Speaker 1: went through hell. So I think at that point, me
Speaker 1: is a white man, me Vy and and and and
Speaker 1: Tay and because she's on my reunion show, we bonded
Speaker 1: based on Nicholas was about to like cancel us for real,
Speaker 1: for real. And the Asians they don't stop, like when
Speaker 1: they're passionate and they feel like you sucked them around,
Speaker 1: they don't stop. They don't stop, they don't stop. They
Speaker 1: don't stop. So the lawyers, my lawyer Mel talked to
Speaker 1: John lou who was then like the Asian communities person,
Speaker 1: he's the one that gears the mom and told that
Speaker 1: him she's not the one hating and the seven realizes
Speaker 1: that she's not the one, and they're willing to bring
Speaker 1: her back. But we know once they bring her back,
Speaker 1: you were gonna have your people boycott, and at that
Speaker 1: point they're gonna have to let her go. John Luis said,
Speaker 1: I know it wasn't you. Alleged All this ship is alleged,
Speaker 1: but it's true. I know it wasn't you. I appreciate
Speaker 1: you even meeting with me. And if you go back
Speaker 1: to work, you don't have to worry. You don't have
Speaker 1: to work. We ain't gonna So I went back. It
Speaker 1: was a Thursday. It was a very or Friday. It
Speaker 1: was a very calculated move to have me come back
Speaker 1: on a Friday. For those of you that don't know,
Speaker 1: Friday news cycle gets tossed in the garbage because who
Speaker 1: reads a newspaper Friday on Saturday? So if something happens
Speaker 1: on Friday, you won't your ways a strip club or
Speaker 1: the car wash, at least getting the haircut. You ain't
Speaker 1: reading the paper. So I got on air Friday. I
Speaker 1: apologize in the early hour because you know, niggas ain't
Speaker 1: listening at six o'clock hour. But it's tuna a thing.
Speaker 1: And then when people started tuning in and hearing me back,
Speaker 1: of course we got some phone calls. Oh, but the
Speaker 1: Asians didn't do their thing, and I was able to
Speaker 1: live to see another day. And you all got into
Speaker 1: it because we did, because I felt like I felt
Speaker 1: it was just so hypocritical of me. Excuse me the
Speaker 1: same thing? What the fucking I so you got mad
Speaker 1: at her? I was, I'm so bitch. That was so
Speaker 1: bad info. I'm sorry. I apologize. That's that's that's This
Speaker 1: is a part of our show is called quick Time
Speaker 1: with Slime. We're just gonna actually quick question and you
Speaker 1: you can pick one or the other, but if you
Speaker 1: pick both, you gotta take a shot. It's it's okay,
Speaker 1: it's it's okay, it's okay. Are you ready? What's the loss? Alright,
Speaker 1: there's no losing. There's no losing losing, Okay. I don't
Speaker 1: know where you go with this one. I think I
Speaker 1: know you go with this one. No, I was on
Speaker 1: jay Z Okay, that was a dope. I don't know
Speaker 1: this one. She was quicker than quick Time. I don't
Speaker 1: know this one. Carty or Nicky? Oh I did? I
Speaker 1: wasn't really. I know you're gonna go with this one.
Speaker 1: Mary Jay or Tony Braxton or Tony Braxton, Mary j
Speaker 1: or b Mary h very all right. Nineties hip hop
Speaker 1: or two thousand nineties damn pretty pretty dispersal. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: nineties alright, Drake Champs or Joe Button Podcast, Drink Check Money.
Speaker 1: I can't lie this one, Flex or DJ Clue. Okay,
Speaker 1: So here's the thing. There's a lot of ship in
Speaker 1: the play right now with my career, and Flex is
Speaker 1: very powerful. The clue is like envies boy boy and
Speaker 1: envy kind of cobo. Let's go to we's the bottom league.
Speaker 1: You know that's not a bad both, that's bad. They
Speaker 1: both stood yeah, thank you, Right, they're differently, just so
Speaker 1: you know, I would have went both. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: come on, I love both. All right, Hello, where were at?
Speaker 1: All right? All right, this one? I think it's fairly easy.
Speaker 1: Podcast on radio? Podcast? Alight? What you thought I was
Speaker 1: gonna say radio? It definitely did. So here's the thing.
Speaker 1: Radio gives a lot more money, faster, but they bind
Speaker 1: you up like your runaway Slane. Right, what you're doing
Speaker 1: on podcast? On it and you can be who you
Speaker 1: are facts and how you want to do it and
Speaker 1: how you want to execute it. Okay, I think you're
Speaker 1: taking a shot for the next couple of ones. All right,
Speaker 1: til next on tupop. Okay, all right, I didn't I
Speaker 1: didn't expect that. Yeah, you know, Boxy or a little kid.
Speaker 1: I don't think neither one of them funk with me,
Speaker 1: So can I say neither? I still gotta take a shot.
Speaker 1: And I don't want to get it to that you
Speaker 1: have I feel didn't even by the story you hold
Speaker 1: on by the way. By the way, this is the
Speaker 1: first neither we've ever had. Yeah, that's the first neither. No, really,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna I'm thinking I'm taking the extra shot
Speaker 1: just because I only said I've never heard the one
Speaker 1: to say neither. Yeah, that's the first neither. And I
Speaker 1: have reason. It's just not someone we don't get into
Speaker 1: the reason. I'm not just like this. So I lose
Speaker 1: with neither. I've never heard neither with me. So okay,
Speaker 1: this is I think it's fairly easy. But I could
Speaker 1: be fooled. New Yorker Philly, who come poor. I respect
Speaker 1: that because because of course I'm a New Yorker to
Speaker 1: the core. Yes, I love the fact that I'm a
Speaker 1: queen's girl. It's just something special about mother. I'm so
Speaker 1: proud to be a queen's girl. But when New York
Speaker 1: let me like like you let me have a threesome,
Speaker 1: and I liked it, Okay, Sattle Filly gave me so
Speaker 1: much love I'm like, what's her name on the shot? Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: you're watching you watch all right? This one. I don't.
Speaker 1: I'm over the air, Queen O t for and you
Speaker 1: like like U or Jail Scott Jelly from Philly. I
Speaker 1: respect that, Eva, Missy to you do know you already
Speaker 1: sapped you, Sorr. I need to just listen. I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna lie. I need to get into neither because I've
Speaker 1: never had to be, never had this. I respect that. Okay,
Speaker 1: all right, all right, I like where you're going with you?
Speaker 1: All right? Cool? So there a couple of left, Okay,
Speaker 1: Kanye for real beautiful, I'm definitely in the air with
Speaker 1: this one. Puff or dre mm hmm huff because even
Speaker 1: though you want to know why, because even though he
Speaker 1: drapped my whole ship made me have to work a
Speaker 1: lot harder, I had to work a lot harder and
Speaker 1: reinvent myself in radio. They'll become a success at the
Speaker 1: end of that success. Did he did a reality show
Speaker 1: with me for free? And that look? Even though the
Speaker 1: show didn't happen, that look created another look for me.
Speaker 1: So I feel like, did he gave me reparations? That's
Speaker 1: that's fine, that's fine, it makes it more any reason,
Speaker 1: not Drake reasoning. I just Dre was never very like
Speaker 1: warm like Diddy's personality was always like come on Jones,
Speaker 1: come on Joseph. How much he would call up and
Speaker 1: be like really with me like that very petty, He's
Speaker 1: very petty. The petty is real love. I'm here for
Speaker 1: the petty right? Oh? How did he seven? A power
Speaker 1: hot on seven? I would spect your maturity? I see like,
Speaker 1: I think it'll still be petty petty van Taro, but no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: I'm petty white because petty white, you're not petty petty,
Speaker 1: petty petty. I could be petty patty, and I could
Speaker 1: be all those things. But here's what you don't realize. Okay,
Speaker 1: Howard one oh five is clear channel that fired me
Speaker 1: in Philly, so fuck you, oh my bad on that one.
Speaker 1: And then you fired me because allegedly I said some
Speaker 1: things about some woman's daycare that cost her her business.
Speaker 1: And then we find out years later that she lied
Speaker 1: and went to prison, and you never cleared my name.
Speaker 1: So I'm not fond of you because you never know
Speaker 1: it might be an opportunity over there night seven. Okay,
Speaker 1: this is the last one loyalty or respect loyalty, because
Speaker 1: respect can be premised by if someone's loyalty, they're gonna
Speaker 1: respect you. It don't matter, right, it don't matter what
Speaker 1: it is. It's it's I'm down for what. I'm down
Speaker 1: for you because I'm down for you. I'm not respecting
Speaker 1: you because you've done this. So I respect you because
Speaker 1: you've not done that. I'm loyal whether you're a ship
Speaker 1: back or whether you're a rock star. That's respect. So
Speaker 1: now you're you're hold on, hold up, hold up. She
Speaker 1: has a two part story, Oh you want to go
Speaker 1: really small me and mony love. I want look a
Speaker 1: moody love. She had beef with Pock a little bit
Speaker 1: not that night. Okay, okay, tell me this good might
Speaker 1: saying too much. Let's tell the story. She gave me
Speaker 1: some and I'm a brother just like your brother. Let's go.
Speaker 1: Let's let me set on the drink chair. And so
Speaker 1: you know, they just don't answer my calls when they
Speaker 1: know I'm like with people, and it's like I will
Speaker 1: never because you're always having me on the mic. So
Speaker 1: you text me, I hear what it is and I
Speaker 1: call you that. Okay, but let's get into this Tupox story,
Speaker 1: what happened? It was just so so so. It was
Speaker 1: the Biggie Platinum party. Remember Biggie had gone. Classic legend.
Speaker 1: Tupac was a Biggist platinum party. Whoa, whoa. You start
Speaker 1: out with, Yeah, okay, everybody was there. You were told
Speaker 1: the invitation came to your record label. You were told
Speaker 1: black time. This is the first time that niggas was
Speaker 1: not allowed to have the Baggie can I we had
Speaker 1: Feathers was sequence and this is like niggas just like, well,
Speaker 1: we're going Hollywood. This is black Hollywood. That was black Hollywood.
Speaker 1: This is social media being created, right, and you got
Speaker 1: nigga media a little bit into my mind. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think I kind of did. I'll take credit for a
Speaker 1: part of it at least because you would hear something myself.
Speaker 1: He was like the first Twitter, first Facebook was like
Speaker 1: the first DM, like hitting you on the private nils
Speaker 1: the d M right by the fault. I didn't want
Speaker 1: to be that, but niggas had that one line number,
Speaker 1: like you know, I didn't suck that bench kick out
Speaker 1: out the studio. But so pop came and it was
Speaker 1: kind of like and Pemony were friends at that time.
Speaker 1: So we went to the party together and everybody. Everybody
Speaker 1: was at that party. You I'm sure you were at
Speaker 1: that party, Kaye. But I heard about the party. Definitely
Speaker 1: got a new exactly she's talking about. This was in jail.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, it's okay. One morning, so Pop came and
Speaker 1: we're in the crow. We're walking and it's like the
Speaker 1: music stops. Everyone else he was in music, but I'm
Speaker 1: with money, and he stopped and he looks at us,
Speaker 1: and then so like we just we know what the
Speaker 1: look means and we figure it out. It was a
Speaker 1: good name, that was it. Jalen. I'm sorry, I forget
Speaker 1: that he's in here, but so has some relations. Three
Speaker 1: of us talking about three three of us just talked
Speaker 1: for a long time. Hoys, just going on. They was
Speaker 1: reading books. Man, No, I'm not I'm not not beautiful. Yeah,
Speaker 1: one topic, one time. Okay, that's a beautiful thing. Okay,
Speaker 1: let's move in on. So, Whendy, when you're trying to
Speaker 1: murder you, where was you at when you got the news?
Speaker 1: You're sitting around You're getting two ways because I imagine
Speaker 1: news on the murder. Yeah you got the news because no, yeah,
Speaker 1: so so I'm in a room. Okay, let's just be clear.
Speaker 1: Is this after Pocket Big died? That I know where
Speaker 1: we're talking about it? Like it is in such a
Speaker 1: slight situation right now, right, but let's just be clear,
Speaker 1: after Pocket Big die, this is a very serious thing
Speaker 1: to even have this implication, right, So I'm just asking
Speaker 1: you because niggers are following through on threats. I mean,
Speaker 1: Pocket Biggest ambles up that the stress is being correct delivered.
Speaker 1: So you're away and you're thinking it's a joke. What
Speaker 1: do you? What do you? What is your first thoughts
Speaker 1: when they said yo turning the TV? Sister? I think
Speaker 1: if someone called you and they said, YO, should read
Speaker 1: some change your faith? My bestie she calls, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: who's calling? Because everyone we gotta break out our Kelly too?
Speaker 1: By anyway, um so wait what go back to that
Speaker 1: conversations along conversation, So the phone is ringing, but when
Speaker 1: people know you on vacation, they're not calling. The phone
Speaker 1: keeps ringing and ringing and ringers. I'm like, did somebody die?
Speaker 1: I pick up the phone. She goes, bitch, are you
Speaker 1: all right? And I'm like, what happened? That motherfucker? Windy.
Speaker 1: They're trying to put a head out on you, bitch.
Speaker 1: So she goes turn on the news. So I'm in
Speaker 1: a roo but with my new husband, and I see
Speaker 1: a split screen that reminds me of the tsunami and
Speaker 1: it's my face, but now it's Wendy's face and it
Speaker 1: says rival DJ puts plots murder, hit on competition, like
Speaker 1: she was just helping you prior, prior to Biggie and
Speaker 1: pox um, you know, untimely death death. I would have
Speaker 1: took it as a joke after Biggie and pox Death.
Speaker 1: I don't think this should be taken lightly. So but
Speaker 1: tell me how you're taking it. So I'm because I'm
Speaker 1: out of the country and I don't know rub I
Speaker 1: didn't know our floors beautiful asked places. But it's not
Speaker 1: makes you wanted to be threatened that like, don't be
Speaker 1: threatening the rubles An America couldn't go down in the rumor.
Speaker 1: You need to go visit the rue. She gotastic and
Speaker 1: it's over. We do because I can't get the pulse
Speaker 1: of if the ship is real and not. And my
Speaker 1: husband he's like at the time, my husband, he's all
Speaker 1: he's always laid back and Cooley's I'll take care of
Speaker 1: it when we get back, don't worthy we are, We're good.
Speaker 1: So we get back. But the whole rest of the vacation,
Speaker 1: I'm like, is this real? Is it's real? And come
Speaker 1: to find out, it's real. So envy once again. Envy
Speaker 1: to the rescue dudes in karate class. We respect you
Speaker 1: karate class and my mom and I don't know, I
Speaker 1: just feel like he's gonna garate class. It's okay, him
Speaker 1: and Joe Biden together, light skinned people get together like this.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, No, it's okay. My memory serves me well.
Speaker 1: And be cold when I got back, or we're on
Speaker 1: the show together and he goes, by the way, it
Speaker 1: after this all morning mixed by the way, Jones, Kevin said,
Speaker 1: don't believe that bullshit, y'all. Good. No, you don't get
Speaker 1: to say don't believe that bullshit when Lisa Evers just
Speaker 1: did a full full thing works by the way, by
Speaker 1: the way, reporting on it and said, I have a
Speaker 1: thirty page document that if you google it it still
Speaker 1: comes up. Yeah, this is not this is not funny.
Speaker 1: I know we laughed about a little bit, but I
Speaker 1: don't think this is funny, did you get to the bottom. No,
Speaker 1: I didn't because you about it because at that at
Speaker 1: that time, so this is when the downward spiral of
Speaker 1: the Miss Jones enterprise began. So, my, my, this is
Speaker 1: relationship with NY seven is coming to an end, which
Speaker 1: is fine because I was only supposed to be there
Speaker 1: three or four years, but they asked me to stay
Speaker 1: an extra year because they needed to get Big Boy.
Speaker 1: He wound up taking over Big Boys. My friend, as
Speaker 1: we New York Radio at that time, when we listened
Speaker 1: to Big Boy giving traffic about last sea we did,
Speaker 1: we did not like California California traffic. I'm sorry, and
Speaker 1: I street a big Boy. Look. I would literally show
Speaker 1: you the pages right now, literally speaking right now. But
Speaker 1: when he took over and he was giving it, he
Speaker 1: took old. He was giving us the same show that
Speaker 1: he was giving to California. Get mad at him though,
Speaker 1: that's corporate ship. No, I'm mad at him because better
Speaker 1: like give New York New York Steve Harvey, and you
Speaker 1: better start giving New York New York. I'm coming for that,
Speaker 1: y'all right, So this is so great. So they asked
Speaker 1: me to stay an extra year while they could get
Speaker 1: him all the way together. I don't have a problem. See,
Speaker 1: everybody thinks I got fired from Hot nighty seven people
Speaker 1: came with your podcast and said, that's not true, right.
Speaker 1: I gave them an extra year because I was syndicated
Speaker 1: in Philly and New York didn't not. So when y'all
Speaker 1: was listening to me, when Wendy put there all that stuff,
Speaker 1: I was already one Philly. They wanted me to come back.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, ill, rather than go ninety five north
Speaker 1: to New York, let me just stop. Is there any
Speaker 1: point where you just really thought that that was real? Though,
Speaker 1: Like I feel like she thinks it's real. I was
Speaker 1: going through so much internal turmoil within my marriage and
Speaker 1: UM and the station in Philly that I was about
Speaker 1: to be driving ninety five south too, that I couldn't
Speaker 1: even I couldn't even be present to it because I'm
Speaker 1: trying to The article says ratings usually pulls out hit.
Speaker 1: I'm like, that's white people ship, Like do we even
Speaker 1: do that? And so when NB said I saw Kevin
Speaker 1: in the club this weekend and he said, don't worry
Speaker 1: about it. It's all good. They're not trying to kill you.
Speaker 1: I'm like, Kevin is Wendy's ex husband. I'm like, okay, okay, like,
Speaker 1: don't worry about it, Like we took the hit off right,
Speaker 1: like they're not coming tonight. So oh and then my
Speaker 1: husband was like, I got you, and he was somewhat
Speaker 1: in the street, so when he said I got you,
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, he got me. They're gonna figure whatever
Speaker 1: it was. But again my life, I was transitioning out
Speaker 1: of New York radio, so I really didn't give a
Speaker 1: funk all that much. And at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: ain't nobody coming that close to me, even without my husband.
Speaker 1: That's not going to get some pushback, like I'm not
Speaker 1: no fucking roll over. It wasn't because at one point
Speaker 1: I apologize to come. But it was you, Angie, Steph Lover,
Speaker 1: and Wendy all of the same station. What's that one
Speaker 1: time we all bugging? I think Steph wasn't there every
Speaker 1: time with you and Yeah, and arguably what turns out
Speaker 1: to be that's like the most powerful for women in
Speaker 1: the radio. Yeah. I actually have a T shirt um
Speaker 1: inspired by Redman's T shirt that says she goes Sjonesy,
Speaker 1: Wendy and Angie, that's it. I'm my name's I don't
Speaker 1: put ye on there. But was there a specific reason
Speaker 1: why she would put a hit out on you that,
Speaker 1: you know? Because I think it was Kevin. I think
Speaker 1: it was her husband, Kevin, because again, Wendy is the
Speaker 1: one that called me to tell me how to get
Speaker 1: a job in Philly. She made the calls sense, But
Speaker 1: it makes all the sense in the world when your
Speaker 1: husband is controlling and dominating and telling you, Wendy, don't
Speaker 1: be friends with Jones. She wants to be what you
Speaker 1: want to be if you want empire. He was trying
Speaker 1: to protect his you know what I mean, his empire.
Speaker 1: We see where he is now and it ain't with Wendy.
Speaker 1: But he was manipulating. In my opinion, he was manipulating
Speaker 1: her because she was the one that had the power,
Speaker 1: you know, and she so again, I was so removed
Speaker 1: because I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, but I'm not
Speaker 1: even gonna be in New York much longer because y'all
Speaker 1: niggers don't know I'm leaving big boys coming. I'm out
Speaker 1: of here. I'm back in Philly. So I didn't really
Speaker 1: I didn't care like that, But was it any time,
Speaker 1: and it was like yo, because you know, at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, I mean, let me be careful.
Speaker 1: How I say, that's serious? But us point a lot
Speaker 1: of people were, you know, when he's husband was a
Speaker 1: different type of character. So wasn't any point where you
Speaker 1: felt like that it was like time to protect your
Speaker 1: lifetime from queens. I could call you, I could come on,
Speaker 1: I could call from Queens, like I don't know that
Speaker 1: even Kevin was really outside, but I know south side
Speaker 1: the outside. I never felt right. But the record what
Speaker 1: happened is and because I was so side tracked with
Speaker 1: the other ship, like you know, like it was bigger
Speaker 1: ship when we circle back, but when I circle back
Speaker 1: to So for all those years, I never reached out
Speaker 1: to Wendy personally to say, bitch, why are you trying
Speaker 1: to kill me? Or nothing like that. I was home.
Speaker 1: I stepped back after clear channel power one oh five,
Speaker 1: but it was power ninety not it. Philly fired me.
Speaker 1: I said, I've had enough for cosmic Yeah, fick shout
Speaker 1: out to them. I had had enough. I'm tired of
Speaker 1: fighting ex husbands. I'm tired of fighting radio stations because
Speaker 1: I had to sue them. I had to sue Radio one,
Speaker 1: which is TV one by the way, and and and
Speaker 1: so when you feel like you're you're a married woman
Speaker 1: and you're fighting corporations and you don't have the support
Speaker 1: in your marriage, you don't have the support and your
Speaker 1: fast I had to tap out. I had left, and
Speaker 1: I left, and I put all that ship and to
Speaker 1: get off your phone praising you. I put all that
Speaker 1: ship and said, yeah, that's it. That's it. So I
Speaker 1: put all let and believe me. It was a struggle
Speaker 1: because I'm like, no, I'm gonna do and I actually did.
Speaker 1: When I left, I started my own online station. It
Speaker 1: was a twenty four hour station. I was doing mornings,
Speaker 1: I was doing sales, I was doing marketing. I was
Speaker 1: doing everything. And then Hurricane Sandy happened in New York.
Speaker 1: Now it was in Jersey. We were on Jersey Shore. Oh,
Speaker 1: y'all got fun. Destroyed all of my equipment, all of
Speaker 1: my investment, all of everything. And at that point, I said,
Speaker 1: God must be trying to tell me sit your ass
Speaker 1: down and just raise your kids. Stop trying to be
Speaker 1: uh on the radio. Oh I'm miss showns and and
Speaker 1: put it in perspective because I can't outdo a hurricane.
Speaker 1: So that changed me. Like I was, I've had to
Speaker 1: tap into something else and not move with an ego
Speaker 1: because a lot of times artists and people in the
Speaker 1: public eye everything. It's the destruction. But we are conditioned
Speaker 1: to if we don't care about our parents. You need
Speaker 1: to ego to be an entertainment business. You need it,
Speaker 1: but you had to control it. And it's hard because
Speaker 1: you don't. You don't know when enough is enough or
Speaker 1: when not enough, could have been more or should have
Speaker 1: been more. I could have got that part if I
Speaker 1: had just put ties up a little more. So it
Speaker 1: wasn't ready. I'm sorry, I take it, I got it,
Speaker 1: i got questions, I'm looking, but I checked out. So
Speaker 1: for the last thirteen years I was home, no parts
Speaker 1: of any industry and no parts of any anything. And
Speaker 1: I have also an illness that some people paid attention
Speaker 1: to throughout the years. It's called amelia blastoma and it's
Speaker 1: an aggressive tumor and mine happens to be in my jaw.
Speaker 1: So if you notice I'm a little puffy are on
Speaker 1: this side, and I'm a little twisty, it's because the
Speaker 1: tomb I've been fighting since I was thirteen when I
Speaker 1: was told you'll never have a career in singing because
Speaker 1: your jaw won't allow it. The strength of your your
Speaker 1: joy is weak. You want You'll never have a career
Speaker 1: radio because that requires talking all the time. You know.
Speaker 1: I fought through it, but it kind of took me.
Speaker 1: It took me down, and I had to have like
Speaker 1: three more surgeries after I left radio. It was a lot.
Speaker 1: It was I went through a a lot personally. It
Speaker 1: was a lie and and and it was it was
Speaker 1: a lot. And it wasn't all good, Like it was
Speaker 1: dark and I'm so I'm between. I got smart because
Speaker 1: I got tired of selling houses and trying to get
Speaker 1: I'm halfway between both. Um, Yeah, it was a lie.
Speaker 1: It was a lot. But but the beauty of it is,
Speaker 1: you know that energy that's naturally built inside of us artists.
Speaker 1: When we can't put it here in a on or
Speaker 1: we can't do a podcast or radio show, maybe we
Speaker 1: put it into our kids. And my son goes to
Speaker 1: like the number one prep boarding school in the world,
Speaker 1: and he's a three sports scholar athlete. He's varsity football,
Speaker 1: varsity wrestling, varsity discus. I don't know what you throw
Speaker 1: some ship. He's throwing shape like he's throwing you can
Speaker 1: growing up better than me. I don't know what the
Speaker 1: discus is for the years, but you hear how he
Speaker 1: talks like, yeah talking. So I'll put it into him
Speaker 1: and my other son, and and I'm pleased with the result.
Speaker 1: And y'all watch Power. What's the son's name that goes
Speaker 1: to show that's the one that killed people? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: the sun. What's his name? His son in Power? Well
Speaker 1: tard the boarding school that he goes to the same
Speaker 1: is the killing though, right, it probably him too. We
Speaker 1: can't see you to college. They kill me. We gotta
Speaker 1: put that into my kids. And and he's great. And
Speaker 1: my younger son is about to be off to the
Speaker 1: same situation. And so now I have both arms swinging free,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, let's go. Well, congratulations to you. I
Speaker 1: got couple more. I got couple more. I got che
Speaker 1: cheets right here. No, it's good, it's good, Okay, all right, dad,
Speaker 1: this is this is all right. I gotta ask this.
Speaker 1: He said. Recently, you were detained for threatning one of
Speaker 1: your kids classmates. That's reading. It's out and the thing
Speaker 1: tell me what it says. Please you started talking about
Speaker 1: this in your podcast. Okay, I thought it was on
Speaker 1: the blog. I'm like, you put it out there, okay, okay,
Speaker 1: because COVID happened, and now I can't go back into court.
Speaker 1: But I got I got lawyer's stuff. So his brother,
Speaker 1: you see him shake, get his right his brother something.
Speaker 1: So his brother, little brother. He's twelve, but he runs
Speaker 1: with a total different crowd of people that he runs with,
Speaker 1: and so I'm not aware of what's going on. I
Speaker 1: had to get a call on my or text. You're
Speaker 1: a fucking bad mother. Your fucking son is fucking terrorizing us.
Speaker 1: You need to fucking kill yourself. Your my other son's
Speaker 1: enemy's at twelve year old. No, it was a eleven
Speaker 1: year old girl. But I'm in bed watching Power and
Speaker 1: I'm like, who wants the smoke? Like I didn't realize
Speaker 1: it was a twelve year old, and I fucking go
Speaker 1: all the way in and I'm like, she can get whatever,
Speaker 1: and saw her mom so that her mom was like
Speaker 1: But I called the mom and I was like, your
Speaker 1: daughters out of control because she shouldn't be texting an adult.
Speaker 1: She always needs his ass beat. So I owned that.
Speaker 1: But what I felt we were good. She goes and
Speaker 1: files and policia for it and says she she threatened
Speaker 1: to take my daughter over her knee. So now it's
Speaker 1: not just a case of mere a terroristic threat, but
Speaker 1: it's her daughter against my son. But she didn't realize
Speaker 1: that her daughter texted him and said, I will murder
Speaker 1: you with my bare fucking hands. So I told him screenshot,
Speaker 1: or maybe I told you screen. Trying for your brother,
Speaker 1: I called him at boarding school. I'm sorry with Jalen,
Speaker 1: I fail you because he had nothing to do with it.
Speaker 1: He's trying to study and so he but I don't
Speaker 1: know how to do technology. So he saved it. When
Speaker 1: we got before the judge. We showed the judge, he's like,
Speaker 1: oh he's in the good. The little bit is in
Speaker 1: the bad. And mom, your old school, Like get it,
Speaker 1: but you still got to show up at court. And
Speaker 1: then COVID happened. So court hasn't happened. But here's the thing.
Speaker 1: I'm old school, and I will suck you up from
Speaker 1: my kids. Positive energy called creed positive. That's my gun. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like, what is it called sage? Keep going? I
Speaker 1: do sage when your dad leaves. Okay, this it's nice.
Speaker 1: So yeah, But the thing is, I like, we live
Speaker 1: in the suburbs, but I can't change who I am.
Speaker 1: And I don't care if my son and my son
Speaker 1: is bad, he's bad, but he don't just like I
Speaker 1: feel like some people just take our round boys. They're
Speaker 1: so fast to take them to the system, like so fat,
Speaker 1: like they're still kids first, don't look at them like
Speaker 1: they're just oh those are They don't get the benefits.
Speaker 1: They don't get the benefits out of being a kid.
Speaker 1: So I pushed back and port back and and I
Speaker 1: do it all again if I had to, so At
Speaker 1: won't point you in funk flex did pompee right when
Speaker 1: Remy was Remy was beating with Fat Joe? Whoa, I
Speaker 1: don't know? Go absolutely yeah. I had no idea. Oh
Speaker 1: I had no idea. Can you break that down? So
Speaker 1: for the record, I love Fat Joe because it had
Speaker 1: it not been for Fat Joe, I would I would
Speaker 1: have not been on punch record, punished record, stand up
Speaker 1: and say that. And I love Joey because even when
Speaker 1: we like he's just you know, you can have a
Speaker 1: conversation why so so what happened? I just bring it
Speaker 1: down for Lem and Remy were in something. Remy is
Speaker 1: my bitch, but listening listening and Remy like, um she
Speaker 1: was she was Oftentimes women in the industry do not
Speaker 1: get supported by our brothers, and um, this was an
Speaker 1: incident that might have been a difference of opinion or
Speaker 1: a money thing or whatever. It was a miscommunication. But
Speaker 1: again has all the power at the radio station in nights.
Speaker 1: But now, but at this time, tell me exactly what
Speaker 1: what what was it that they were they were I
Speaker 1: don't know what the beef was, but I know that
Speaker 1: when you beef with Flex and Flex owns the night,
Speaker 1: you gotta come the morning because I'm the black sheet.
Speaker 1: So Remy came to you and Remy started talking that
Speaker 1: you know, and then I remember the situation. I don't
Speaker 1: want the exact content, right, So was this the first
Speaker 1: time that Ribby said something that she was displeased about
Speaker 1: fat Joe? Was the first time all your show? Because
Speaker 1: they used to always cut everybody dropped it on my show?
Speaker 1: And then I deal with the describe what happened. She
Speaker 1: was piste off and she's not refined Remy as we
Speaker 1: see her now, she was like, no funk that he's
Speaker 1: trying to do this. He's not doing that. Where's my
Speaker 1: this and where's my that? And you're supposed to be
Speaker 1: fat Joe. And it was ugly, was big, it was bad,
Speaker 1: and it was on morning radio. Morning radio is the
Speaker 1: top watch listened to. I tell people this whole time.
Speaker 1: If you don't want it to get back, don't bring
Speaker 1: it to morning radio. But back then, you know, I
Speaker 1: rock niggers asleep and make me feel comfortable. And Remy
Speaker 1: was my friend, so I didn't have to rock her.
Speaker 1: I just said, bitch, calm, tell your story. But Fat
Speaker 1: Joe is going to flex and flexes. Also he's the
Speaker 1: king of Knights, so it becomes a battle and I'm
Speaker 1: not backing down. So ultimately, you know, you think flex
Speaker 1: had me like let go early atting on a seven?
Speaker 1: Is that what you're saying when you're asking because get
Speaker 1: their shots? Thank you, Glory, I'm asking you. He's the reason. Okay,
Speaker 1: So here's the thing, because I asking at one point
Speaker 1: you last place really didn't go on each other. But
Speaker 1: I didn't that really, I didn't just put you on
Speaker 1: two together. But I wouldn't with another shot too, obviously
Speaker 1: I went that with that hold on? Is that what
Speaker 1: you think happened. Yeah, because when I was leaving Hot
Speaker 1: even though what a shot. That's right, that's right here
Speaker 1: Sunny we got Mr Sunny now Sunny Dunny, Mr Dank,
Speaker 1: you appreciate you. It's odd because on my leaving of
Speaker 1: seven shot ye French so alright cool? So Jalen. So
Speaker 1: is my son Jalen. He's frea and he speaks it yeah, yes, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: and he speaks it with his grandma like he from birth.
Speaker 1: You just gassing a grandmother conversations. I don't know what's happening. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's him. Thank you, Mrs Sunny. Yeah, we're talking about so.
Speaker 1: Upon my leaving, it was your idea to take the shot.
Speaker 1: I didn't drink nothing on the plane. Good, that's good.
Speaker 1: Bitch next to me ordered zinfandel, right, and then she
Speaker 1: looked at me like I was gonna judge. It's just
Speaker 1: saving for drink Champ So I was. I knew when
Speaker 1: I left Hot I was gonna be in Philly. I
Speaker 1: was good. B Et started meeting with me before my departure,
Speaker 1: Reginald Hudland. He was like, we would love to do
Speaker 1: a show with you. I said, I'm leaving Hot. We
Speaker 1: don't care. We want to film the departure. I said, Okay,
Speaker 1: here's what you don't know. I'm pregnant. That's a bonus.
Speaker 1: We love babies. Can we come into the delivery room
Speaker 1: and document? And I'm like, I don't even want my
Speaker 1: husband there. Of course you can come. So they start
Speaker 1: coming up to Hot ninety seven the last few weeks
Speaker 1: of me being on there, and the rumor is that
Speaker 1: maybe Flex talked to Ebro and said it may not
Speaker 1: be a great idea for the company to be doing
Speaker 1: this when she's about to leave. And I get it.
Speaker 1: I get it to Ed Bregnitt, So that could That's
Speaker 1: the only thing that I ever could feel that maybe
Speaker 1: Flex it because other than that, he was always a supporter.
Speaker 1: He was always he always has great advice and he's
Speaker 1: always like umo. Flex is my brother and I love him.
Speaker 1: But Flex is a company man. He's going down with
Speaker 1: the ship. Yeah, like he's he said that he doesn't care.
Speaker 1: He'll take less money out to seven to stay to seven,
Speaker 1: just to be and look, he's whether the storm. He's
Speaker 1: still working. After all these years. My ass I've been fired.
Speaker 1: Wet her fire hired, Bring her back bringing back fire
Speaker 1: her fire Bringer back. So obviously there's something to that.
Speaker 1: What do you think when Angie laugh Because like like
Speaker 1: Angie and Flex was like they were like the two
Speaker 1: like staples of Hotland. I think that had it not
Speaker 1: been for Envy leaving and Angie might still be at
Speaker 1: hot Whoa because every leaving and making it work, because
Speaker 1: it's not like I just left. Envy left and made
Speaker 1: it work and showed the possibility. And he saw the
Speaker 1: painting on the canvas when it was a blank. A
Speaker 1: lot of people they want they believe it could be
Speaker 1: better on the other side, but they're not quite ready
Speaker 1: to take that move. And he's a risk taker. He
Speaker 1: took the move, you know. And the other side is
Speaker 1: Ebro wasn't willing to give Envy what he knew he deserved.
Speaker 1: Now Envy had all that money from Star, Damn good,
Speaker 1: Queen's get the money. He's exactly to say, like, alright, cool,
Speaker 1: just be clear. There was a bad joke again on
Speaker 1: the morning shows we have. I don't want to repeat
Speaker 1: what allegedly to start it with me, Okay, No, so
Speaker 1: Star started talking about you Jalen being a bastard child,
Speaker 1: and then Power was running commercials all weekend about how
Speaker 1: this whore had this bastard child, and he was asking
Speaker 1: people at the hospital you were born in to send
Speaker 1: our medical records. We're sorry, man, We're sorry again. Yeah, sorry, sorrow. Shot.
Speaker 1: That was a lot of sorrow. I'm going myself. I
Speaker 1: got so wait we got weight to No, no, we
Speaker 1: got again. It was he was in the bastard you got,
Speaker 1: you got your shot. No, mama, to the heavy poor,
Speaker 1: to the heavy poor. Okay, that's cool. It in two
Speaker 1: instead of one. Holy ship, because I don't know what's
Speaker 1: gonna get Wait, because it's because there's a lot. And
Speaker 1: again you're told don't talk about that on the air.
Speaker 1: Let it go and don't Okay, So he pat commercials
Speaker 1: and promos. Wait as I so he had commercials saying
Speaker 1: what about your son, about me being a like a
Speaker 1: whore having a child out of wedlock and that he's
Speaker 1: down syndrome, and to send the people at the hospital
Speaker 1: where he was born, please send the medical records and
Speaker 1: I'll give you money. I'll say, allegedly, because you have to.
Speaker 1: Now I think I think hip hop beefs is nothing
Speaker 1: because I think radio I mean that I would have
Speaker 1: this ship is wild man. I would have no idea,
Speaker 1: Like the way you just broke it down, I had
Speaker 1: no idea I gonna leave you. There was a murder
Speaker 1: hit on you. Now I believe not so much before. No,
Speaker 1: now I'm believing because it's is getting deep down my family.
Speaker 1: It was a lot. And so the whole weekend, like
Speaker 1: Somber told you about the news cycle on Friday, no
Speaker 1: one's reading, so no one's everyone's hearing, but no one's
Speaker 1: like calling and complaining because people advertisers that would, they're
Speaker 1: on their dots. So this story comes out, Star Wars
Speaker 1: coming up with this and then wait, wait, wait, wait,
Speaker 1: So I'm sorry, there's something you said that they just
Speaker 1: resonate with me. It's the advertisers that are not going
Speaker 1: to hear it. It's not necessarily the listeners, it's the advertisers.
Speaker 1: So they're playing promos over the week. I didn't I
Speaker 1: didn't catch that at first. Now you get to play.
Speaker 1: And so the commercials are playing, they're playing all weekend,
Speaker 1: and people are barbecuing and they're hearing these promos because
Speaker 1: everyone's tuned into power and hot and hot and power.
Speaker 1: And he's saying he's saying that my son is down syndrome,
Speaker 1: which even if he were, it's still like a kid, like,
Speaker 1: don't be talking about kids. They didn't ask to be.
Speaker 1: This is after he did everything, or this is before,
Speaker 1: this is before, this is what started in all right,
Speaker 1: So he basically got away with this. This is the
Speaker 1: reason why he kept going with it. Is that what
Speaker 1: we're saying. Well, and they after that weekend and they
Speaker 1: heard it and came in once again to my defense.
Speaker 1: I was like, how dare he talk about Jalen and
Speaker 1: you like that? And the station run commercials and promos
Speaker 1: who's doing that? And it's hot a hot still and
Speaker 1: the defendant this is such an ill story, like this
Speaker 1: is so is at hot night seven and stars kicking
Speaker 1: my back and my son's back and calling him about
Speaker 1: crypt blood shy. I was a blood I didn't know
Speaker 1: it well and didn't it was going down. But because
Speaker 1: again but because radio was the beast was bigger than
Speaker 1: even hip hoppy, I'm I'm just going going, going, so
Speaker 1: and he's like, why isn't Jalen's dad saying something. I'm like, well,
Speaker 1: I had a meeting with him and the uncle's and
Speaker 1: they feel that me ignoring him is the best thing
Speaker 1: to do, and he goes, fuck that. He goes on
Speaker 1: the mic the next break and breaks start down. Star
Speaker 1: now has his ammunition because all along Ebro have been
Speaker 1: telling me and Envy don't respond. Stars just trying to
Speaker 1: get a reaction, don't do it. And he said, fuck you.
Speaker 1: Somebody needs to stand up for Jones, and he goes in,
Speaker 1: r goes back, and he goes back start. So now
Speaker 1: it's bigger than meeting No Brown and they're going back
Speaker 1: and forth with each other, and Star went up further
Speaker 1: than he should have gone and said something about Andy's
Speaker 1: daughter wiping her as pennies and taking a bite out
Speaker 1: of it, allegedly. And but but because we had gone
Speaker 1: through tsunami and the wife has is of Asian descent,
Speaker 1: we knew to play. So Envy went to the same man,
Speaker 1: or had his wife go to the same man, John
Speaker 1: Lou and said, look at this man and what he's
Speaker 1: saying about my kids. Their mother's Asian. They're like, if
Speaker 1: you want to fight us for tsunami, bitch, stand up
Speaker 1: the same way. And he did, and Starr had to
Speaker 1: get fired and and we got like millions and millions
Speaker 1: of dollars and sorry, Jalen, your dad made a bad call.
Speaker 1: Could have been us. It's all right, we're coming back now,
Speaker 1: a right to come back, come back, coming back, and
Speaker 1: so we're back. And so that's what happened. That's what
Speaker 1: fueled that whole envying and star and people think, oh,
Speaker 1: Envy's a snitch. You're not a snitch when you're protecting
Speaker 1: your children, because there are a lot of crazies out
Speaker 1: here that will hear someone say something and it's a
Speaker 1: clarion call to let me go and shoot his daughter,
Speaker 1: or let me go in the white mannaise between her
Speaker 1: ask and all those things. So Envy he did, I
Speaker 1: feel the responsible thing. And after that start got fired
Speaker 1: from Power one oh five. And then soon thereafter I
Speaker 1: think I left, and then and the wound up where
Speaker 1: he wound up. But then he wound up at Power,
Speaker 1: and I don't even know how he got here, but
Speaker 1: that's what happened. At what point, do you guys all
Speaker 1: feel that or do you ever feel that y'all are
Speaker 1: just pawns in these corporate people's game. Never because the
Speaker 1: money is so good, because y'all just fighting. They're fighting, You'll,
Speaker 1: it's understood though the fight is is they're just it's
Speaker 1: the corporations are are vuying for advertisement and then you
Speaker 1: guys are taking it to the streets. Well to the
Speaker 1: point of us us not getting corporate money, like the
Speaker 1: corporate is we were minding our busin is having our kids.
Speaker 1: You're the one calling them autistic and down syndrome, like
Speaker 1: you're saying the other hosts right when I'm trying to say,
Speaker 1: like why are they going that low? Why y'all have
Speaker 1: to respond like at the end of the day, these
Speaker 1: companies and nobody's saying nothing about the executive due at
Speaker 1: the top his kids by cousin, you know, that would
Speaker 1: be shut down so that they probably knew this. Oh
Speaker 1: this is great ratings. Oh this is great. But we're
Speaker 1: caught up in emotion, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like we're protecting our image or our children or our kids.
Speaker 1: We don't want them like you you protect your kids
Speaker 1: and you're not thinking of oh but this is really
Speaker 1: employed by corporate Well you can't at that point. I'm
Speaker 1: just saying before you get to that point, like why
Speaker 1: is everybody even allowing it to get to that point?
Speaker 1: That's a good point. I think we need another shot
Speaker 1: Peter Rosenberg. We had Peter Rosenberg. Peter Rosenberg asked me,
Speaker 1: asked me what you read books with him too? I
Speaker 1: saw him on your shower and he said, he said that,
Speaker 1: you know, he felt like you didn't like him. He
Speaker 1: feelt like he said, he was an implant for Hebro
Speaker 1: and he admitted to it. He admitted to that ship,
Speaker 1: he said, and without knowing he was bitch. You knew
Speaker 1: you wanted to be on air, nothing else. You knew
Speaker 1: you wanted to be on the morning show. But I'm
Speaker 1: from Queens and I knew you wanted to be You
Speaker 1: don't know the m play. I saw the play. I
Speaker 1: saw the play. I newdn't want it, and so Abril
Speaker 1: brought him. I said, who wouldn't want? Who wouldn't want?
Speaker 1: The one the morning shot? And so when Abril brought
Speaker 1: him to my attention, I asked, he Bro, what's this background?
Speaker 1: Because again it's all business. I want to win. So
Speaker 1: whoever you bring in short of them doing a tsunami song,
Speaker 1: I'm here for. When he brought him in and I
Speaker 1: interviewed him, his credentials didn't necessarily match up with the
Speaker 1: position because he was making like college doovers like, what
Speaker 1: is it called parodies? Parodies? He's doing college parodies right,
Speaker 1: And I'm at a point in my because by this
Speaker 1: time our show has been on for at least two
Speaker 1: or three years. I need next level parody. It's got
Speaker 1: me in trouble. So as I'm talking to him and
Speaker 1: I'm interviewing him, and of course there's a raised eyebrow.
Speaker 1: So after Tsunami, let me just explain that me and
Speaker 1: the and and Tay had become like this because we
Speaker 1: realized that the evil was hired. Is Evil hired after that?
Speaker 1: Because Abril had been hired when tsunami happens, like the
Speaker 1: Empty like he used to play pool all the time.
Speaker 1: He was like the empty, great guy, I have no
Speaker 1: bad stories, like pop is like cool, No, he's good
Speaker 1: by the time he's the Empty's empty? Actually no, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's empty. And John Demic is the p d okay,
Speaker 1: so he comes. So he comes because the tsunami, the
Speaker 1: tsunami thing rocked my morning show so badly that we
Speaker 1: needed someone that was completely uninvolved in our shenanigans. Ebro
Speaker 1: enters to be and then we hired Todd Lynn and
Speaker 1: then we hire Garfield the comedian, just to have a
Speaker 1: lot of ship going on, so you guys, forget about
Speaker 1: all the bad things that were attached to us before
Speaker 1: corporate comes to him and says, you can't be p
Speaker 1: D or m D and beyond the morning show make
Speaker 1: a decision. Because so all right, so let me just
Speaker 1: ask you something. He's coming from California when he came out.
Speaker 1: I was in Philly. Tracy did that? I know what
Speaker 1: I'm asking you was he owned a station in California.
Speaker 1: He was in the UH some something in the Bay
Speaker 1: Area and still be in the empty and still being
Speaker 1: the p No, no, no, he no, he'd been quit
Speaker 1: that when Tracy Colton to come to New York. He
Speaker 1: was done with that. He was in the office at
Speaker 1: HoTT in the seventh but he stepped up when they
Speaker 1: wanted us off the air for Tsunami. So it is
Speaker 1: that weird because you know, this is the like Tracy
Speaker 1: Clarity didn't do that, these other pds didn't do that.
Speaker 1: Is that weird? I'm sorry, I'm I asking that you're not.
Speaker 1: Actually I'm sorry, because it's totally weird. It's we that's
Speaker 1: your program director becomes part of your morning This is
Speaker 1: exactly what he was talking about if you come to us,
Speaker 1: you know, the morning. But at that point we were
Speaker 1: so desperate and concerned about salvaging our show, and we
Speaker 1: knew that Ebro had done radio in the sack that
Speaker 1: We're like, we just need bot conferences by sacrament Sacramento. Sorry, sorry, um.
Speaker 1: He had done successful radio and Sacramento. So we just
Speaker 1: needed competent bodies in the room that we could trust
Speaker 1: to keep the engine moving forward. But it came a
Speaker 1: point where corporate came to him and said, you're great
Speaker 1: in mornings, and you're great as a program director, but
Speaker 1: you need to pick a side. Nigga, what you wanna?
Speaker 1: So he said to me, it's up to Miss Sjans
Speaker 1: And I said, I wonder if this is bad. I
Speaker 1: wanted things would have been different had I not said this.
Speaker 1: I wonder what you're about to say. He said, it's
Speaker 1: up to miss Jones. You want me on your show,
Speaker 1: you want me to go back to the office. Okay,
Speaker 1: let's just be clear. This is very big moment. But
Speaker 1: you're about the answer. So I want you to We're
Speaker 1: saying Spanish is coming because I want you to be
Speaker 1: clear what we said. You're saying that there was a
Speaker 1: time were evil had a chance to go back behind
Speaker 1: the deaths or be in front of the microphole. Name
Speaker 1: the microphone name, And he said it depends on UPTI
Speaker 1: miss Jones whatever she wants. And what did you say?
Speaker 1: You're more useful to me in the back office, so
Speaker 1: I can know what the white boys are thinking. But
Speaker 1: had Ebro. But had Ebrol told me his sincere intention
Speaker 1: or desire to do radios. Well, he brought in Rosenberg
Speaker 1: and we saw that play. It's the let me throw
Speaker 1: you off a big boy, And I'll put Rosenberg with
Speaker 1: Cipher because I know that's going to fail, and then
Speaker 1: I'll slide in. It will be me and Rosenberg and
Speaker 1: that's where they are now. But had he told me,
Speaker 1: but sometimes men don't want to admit to women a
Speaker 1: sense of power over. Do you know if I'm a
Speaker 1: woman and I have maybe part of your faith in
Speaker 1: my hands, that's like a play that you kind of
Speaker 1: have no control in. Women tend to be sometimes emotional.
Speaker 1: Jonesy even more so. I'm not sure he felt comfortable
Speaker 1: telling me that he really wanted to do morning radio
Speaker 1: alongside me, or maybe he just wanted to take it over.
Speaker 1: But the point is he brought Rosenberg in under the
Speaker 1: guise of being a producer for me when all along,
Speaker 1: says Regal, what's the do name? I thought about the
Speaker 1: dream but Anthony all right, so he broke in. He
Speaker 1: brought in, He brought in Rosenberg. Well, even if he
Speaker 1: wasn't going to be utilized as a spy, he damn sure,
Speaker 1: I wasn't gonna be produced. Well, that's what Rosenberg. But
Speaker 1: that's how they He's like, Miss Joe's ready. He did.
Speaker 1: He picked you up. Now I saw him. I said,
Speaker 1: thank you, Peter Man one dye. Never wanted to like you,
Speaker 1: by the way, but you have integrity. But but I
Speaker 1: saw the play. I'm from Queen, you know, so I
Speaker 1: knew you don't have producer credit. Ebro is the only
Speaker 1: one co signing you. Evil is the only one that
Speaker 1: knows you. And here you go. If Ebrol had said
Speaker 1: that I have interested, if Ebrol had just told me
Speaker 1: he wanted to do mornings, nig come on, you wrote
Speaker 1: when I starting Soonami, come on, you saved me. Come on.
Speaker 1: But he was like, oh, what's up to miss Jones?
Speaker 1: So here I go. Well, Nigga, I need somebody in
Speaker 1: the back office and tell me, what's going there? When
Speaker 1: he actually picked you? You you picked him in the
Speaker 1: back office. Was that something that he was like, Oh damn,
Speaker 1: it's Joe's I didn't pick him. I think you said
Speaker 1: you because you had a choice. You had a choice.
Speaker 1: Oh at that point? Oh yeah, Well I don't know
Speaker 1: what do you think? I don't know what you were
Speaker 1: doing whatever he might have been doing with Rosenberg in
Speaker 1: all honesty, but what should I have done? I don't
Speaker 1: know how to better have played that because I'm feeling
Speaker 1: like me and Ebral were cool, like Ebrol knows like
Speaker 1: he knows all that, he knows where the body is
Speaker 1: a burn with me. So if you're feeling that you
Speaker 1: want to do mornings, nigga telling me because they asked
Speaker 1: Corporate wants me to give them an answer, and he's like, no,
Speaker 1: it's completely your decision. Actually, he's the p D at
Speaker 1: the time, and and and I didn't feel ever like
Speaker 1: he was my p D. I was felt like Ebral
Speaker 1: always made me feel like we were like creative equals.
Speaker 1: So I'm feeling like he would have told me because
Speaker 1: I used to tell him stuff that I need that
Speaker 1: billboard or Ebron, you know, can I get this, So
Speaker 1: I figured he would have told me if he really
Speaker 1: wanted to land on mornings, but he never did. And
Speaker 1: so I'm seeing Rosenberg. You are coming out of nowhere, bitch, please,
Speaker 1: I'm no by So let's just say yeah, exactly, another
Speaker 1: drink a shot, not bit. This is the one you
Speaker 1: want to talk to yourself too, But this is your show,
Speaker 1: jes No, you're helping me figure out my life. You are.
Speaker 1: You are figuring it out on your own. You just
Speaker 1: talk to yourself, and it's amazing my therapist that I'd
Speaker 1: be having a lot of ship in my head. I
Speaker 1: just need to sort it out. So can I come
Speaker 1: here like once a month in your let's do it?
Speaker 1: One of the people you put on? I got. I
Speaker 1: gotta note of this ship. Hold on, I love it.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to get checks out of the hold on. Yeah,
Speaker 1: who who you holding over? Bro? Why you didn't tell me?
Speaker 1: Bro in the mean produce a way better than Rosenberg.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you on the meantime. Hold in the meantime,
Speaker 1: I was trying. I have like three different numbers. I'm
Speaker 1: only love right, So the one I decided to text
Speaker 1: FaceTime on drink shop with Mrs Jones. Cool, we're talking
Speaker 1: about Tupac stories present, wrong number. Motherfucker will never that's one.
Speaker 1: That's one of those things. Yeah, she gave Rosenberg, Donnell Rollers,
Speaker 1: Stephen A. Smith, Mike Show, Toddling, Yeah, and all nother
Speaker 1: motherfucker's is working and I'm trying to get back in.
Speaker 1: They all you got, damn you let to both your boss,
Speaker 1: you gotta they gotta come, they go. But whoa, all right?
Speaker 1: All right? We spoke about Stephen A. Smith, Donnell Rolls.
Speaker 1: You worked the Donnelle before he met Chappelle? M hm?
Speaker 1: Or did he meet Chappelle? He just wasn't lit. He
Speaker 1: just can't. How do met Donaille? Roll? No, I think
Speaker 1: he wasn't actually Larry then. I think he had been
Speaker 1: actually Larry then. I don't think no. And so Danelle
Speaker 1: has a so I love comedy, I love laughing, I
Speaker 1: love but Donnelle has a very specific and direct sort
Speaker 1: of comedy and it didn't always translate on radio and
Speaker 1: morning radio more specifically, because just like late night talk
Speaker 1: is different than the view and talk and all those
Speaker 1: you have to I can't describe it, but that's just
Speaker 1: a certain element you have to know what works for
Speaker 1: that day part. And so Donelle, as talented as he
Speaker 1: might have been for maybe a nighttime show, I just
Speaker 1: didn't feel like it. Always showed up for mornings and
Speaker 1: then he would get upset. He would get mad and
Speaker 1: me and he would take bets about whether or not
Speaker 1: he could read copies without making the stakes, and that
Speaker 1: didn't help the club to this day. Serious serious, I
Speaker 1: think from you guys, because is like partners with him
Speaker 1: right for angels, I think the one excluded from the
Speaker 1: beef get to you, you said, Dondell, you and interview
Speaker 1: was the first person who put Donnell continued about that.
Speaker 1: And so like he would come, he would show up
Speaker 1: to work and like we try to let him do
Speaker 1: his thing in the confines of we still got to
Speaker 1: do a show. It's not like us a one man
Speaker 1: stand up. He would get upset. He would get really
Speaker 1: like like upset, upset, like like it's like just In
Speaker 1: Bereen breaks. Yeah, very emotional, but very talented, and most
Speaker 1: artists are emotional. So I got it. But nigga, it's
Speaker 1: a four hour show. I'm not sure. Let's just get
Speaker 1: the fucking white people's checks. Why are you going all out?
Speaker 1: And so he looked at it as maybe a woman
Speaker 1: telling him what he should be doing as opposed to
Speaker 1: what he was doing, or Jones, and who the fuck
Speaker 1: is she? She's not. I don't know, well I know.
Speaker 1: All's I know is that day he did something and
Speaker 1: it wound up melting down and Ebro couldn't fix it,
Speaker 1: and Envy who's the fixer. He's like the Olivia Pope
Speaker 1: of radio. Couldn't fix it. He walked off the show
Speaker 1: and that was it, and I was like, good ricks. Now,
Speaker 1: in hindsight, great talent. Never said anything personally bad to
Speaker 1: me or offensive to my family. It just didn't work
Speaker 1: for what we were already under the thing of tsunami.
Speaker 1: We were trying to build back, we were trying to
Speaker 1: prove ourselves were trying and I can't have somebody fighting
Speaker 1: with me every day when I'm telling you what we
Speaker 1: need to be doing for the people Donna Rawlins and me.
Speaker 1: So I fired him. I fired him. I'm not sure
Speaker 1: if we made noise for that. Just say no, you
Speaker 1: don't make noise for the firing. Come on, we're not
Speaker 1: making noise for firing something. I'm sorry even though you
Speaker 1: did it. He got me back though, three weeks ago,
Speaker 1: me and Wendy. Three weeks ago, we went to Dona
Speaker 1: Rawlins did Carolines opened up for the first time the company,
Speaker 1: and she called the gust Chelsey, this is why you
Speaker 1: need to move back to New York. Dona Rawlins. Wendy's
Speaker 1: calling you after the murder hit. So everything best, That's
Speaker 1: what Andy said, and he's like, whenever I go to
Speaker 1: Wendy's house, He's like, okay, we'll just call me and
Speaker 1: even I gotta it might be the last time, right,
Speaker 1: he said, you feel I feel like you're my daughter
Speaker 1: going to the prom. I'm on waiting like. So she
Speaker 1: calls and she's like, Caroline is open open. This is
Speaker 1: why you need to move to New York. I want
Speaker 1: to go see do and how long will it take
Speaker 1: for you to get here? So I'm like, it's your
Speaker 1: lucky day, bitch, because it's Thursday, and Thursday I hate
Speaker 1: my show with Queen's Flip Me and Miss Jones on
Speaker 1: the Queen's Flip. Um, I'm drinking a lot whatever whatever
Speaker 1: we beg Yeah, already in the city. She don't know
Speaker 1: I'm already in New York. So she's like, my driver's
Speaker 1: down still airs like, you know when you get here.
Speaker 1: So we go to Carolines. When we get there, we're
Speaker 1: a little late, like a lot of late. But so
Speaker 1: they asked, do you want to sit here or do
Speaker 1: you want to sit up front? You know, I'm up front, bitch,
Speaker 1: I've been at home for like So she's like, let's go.
Speaker 1: We sit up front and Donnell Rowlands stops the show
Speaker 1: to go is that Ms Jones my former boss that
Speaker 1: fired me? When your boss shows up to your new gig?
Speaker 1: So he got me, he got me. I mean he
Speaker 1: made a few jobs, but I was like, just make
Speaker 1: sure you're funny tonight, nigga. He didn't go hard. Thank
Speaker 1: you for not going hard because Wendy about Wendy, but
Speaker 1: he said, well, so people will go with how do
Speaker 1: you doing? With everybody in the audience was going how
Speaker 1: are you doing? When we So by the time we
Speaker 1: set at our table, which is right in front of
Speaker 1: the same so he's like, hen Wendy Williams. So everyone
Speaker 1: stands off and they're applauding, and they can't believe it
Speaker 1: because last they heard she was trying to all right,
Speaker 1: but let's be clear, that's the crowd of how they
Speaker 1: feel how do you feel with your ex murder? So
Speaker 1: mea when so so so I said that wrong together.
Speaker 1: I did not mean like that. But even if this
Speaker 1: is allegedly, if it's not allegedly, this is a story
Speaker 1: that brewed in the goddamn public eye. And you said,
Speaker 1: I believe that. Let's be honest, I said, but I
Speaker 1: felt at the time that my husband, who I told you,
Speaker 1: was in the streets and he was cool. He was
Speaker 1: like he died it right, And I never heard anything
Speaker 1: anymore blowback. Him and keV knew each other. Well, they
Speaker 1: got to know whoever my ex husband knew that touched keV.
Speaker 1: Supposedly keV was touched and the problem was touched. Like
Speaker 1: stop it right, I'm sorry, I don't know what tested me,
Speaker 1: and let's stop it. Let's stop it right right. You
Speaker 1: need to stop it, man, I've been stopped in a
Speaker 1: long time, teacher, you know. So it really fully forgives
Speaker 1: Wendy even thinking a long no, I didn't. Here's what happened.
Speaker 1: So long. I love your artist. No funk her because
Speaker 1: no no fun her, because no funk Wendy. Because here's
Speaker 1: the thing. So after all these years, right, she never
Speaker 1: bothered after Kevin did all that ship that he did,
Speaker 1: and you knew what Kevil you do. Kevin's come back.
Speaker 1: I told Wendy the day I met Kevin, because she
Speaker 1: asked me to come and prove him. And when she
Speaker 1: got out of the car to go into the store. No,
Speaker 1: he wasn't, but he was like, yeah, I said, you know,
Speaker 1: Wendy's gonna be big one day. She can't have regular
Speaker 1: nigger handling. You need to step it up, he said,
Speaker 1: I know. And when she blow up, I'm gonna be
Speaker 1: right there. You ain't got to tell me twice what
Speaker 1: that looks like. But I told Wendy, and I guess
Speaker 1: she was like, it doesn't matter. Jones, he probably had
Speaker 1: so much more. I'm marrying him, and so you know,
Speaker 1: as a friend, you're like, you don't want to be
Speaker 1: that bitch that's be like, no, don't fucking marry him
Speaker 1: page No. So I was actually at the engagement party,
Speaker 1: and so he put wedges between us throughout the years.
Speaker 1: You know, whatever I did, she was on BLS. She
Speaker 1: would take jabs whatever her and star enemy of my
Speaker 1: enemy is my friend. Everybody tore me down. But after
Speaker 1: her divorce, which is recent, and her mom passed away,
Speaker 1: which is also recent. Yeah, and then I came back
Speaker 1: on the scene in February. So I'm on i G
Speaker 1: Live and someone asked about the murder and I'm telling them.
Speaker 1: Someone added, Mr c don't ask me why what theams?
Speaker 1: So somebody in that live, some random person added him.
Speaker 1: Next thing I know, he's requesting to be camped up.
Speaker 1: That's okay that and so I camped him up. He's like,
Speaker 1: what happened with what you'all talking about Wendy? And I
Speaker 1: told him, I said, I never got resolved, like why
Speaker 1: would you let that nigga and like influence you to
Speaker 1: have me taken out? Because even if he wasn't ve children,
Speaker 1: saying like keV influence Mrs Mrs Mr was down. No,
Speaker 1: he knew no, no, we all knew what seven what
Speaker 1: Kevin Wendy was doing because they might be less at
Speaker 1: the time. And so I said, anybody trying to get
Speaker 1: in favor with Kevin or Wendy could have taken that
Speaker 1: murder thing seriously and killed me or my kids just
Speaker 1: trying to get someone down with them fired by whatever
Speaker 1: was talking somebody to say, what are you doing all day?
Speaker 1: Like you know, doing right? Right? Anybody. So he said, um,
Speaker 1: a lot of ships that Wendy. A lot of ship
Speaker 1: was Kevin and not so much Wendy. He said, when
Speaker 1: obviously Mr C is saying when I did what I
Speaker 1: did with the transvest sides, and allegedly it was all Kevin.
Speaker 1: Wait that get involved in this, because he's on the
Speaker 1: live saying he's trying to explain to me that it
Speaker 1: wasn't Dy, was more Kevin. That Kevin was pushing Wendy
Speaker 1: to push that whole transsexualstor whatever the funker was narrative, Yeah,
Speaker 1: because because listen, you'll get it. When Wendy went to
Speaker 1: Blast She's opposite of Hot ninety seven, keV allegedly wanted Mr.
Speaker 1: She to keep riding with Wendy season the contract at
Speaker 1: Hot so he can't. keV gets mad. So now Kevi
Speaker 1: hates Mr C. Let me put a battery and my
Speaker 1: wife's back to talk about Mr She talk about put
Speaker 1: that out right. So she used to say dj U,
Speaker 1: which we know dj is dj Mr C, and she
Speaker 1: would say all the stuff. But to the point when
Speaker 1: he came on that live that night with Me and
Speaker 1: Queens Flip, he said, a lot of that ship was
Speaker 1: not Andy was Kevin, and I know it's easy to
Speaker 1: like blame Wendy now because she's going through this whole
Speaker 1: public humiliation about blah blah. But I think if you
Speaker 1: and Wendy would talk, y'all could find some resolve and
Speaker 1: either decide to be friends again or to walk away.
Speaker 1: So he said, do you want me to call her?
Speaker 1: And I'm like, sure, whatever. He calls her, and he
Speaker 1: and and I guess it was a great conversation because
Speaker 1: he calls me and goes, I don't know you was
Speaker 1: at her engagement party. She wants to talk to you.
Speaker 1: She's like, oh, Joe, I want to say, oh my god,
Speaker 1: oh my god. So he goes, so I gave her
Speaker 1: your number, she's gonna call so me, I call Endy.
Speaker 1: Mike Sewan and like Wendy's supposedly gonna call me by
Speaker 1: blah blah blah. As we're talking, she beats in on
Speaker 1: the other line, so I clicked all It's just like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, Jos, I've missed you so much. How
Speaker 1: are you what's going on? And then we talked for
Speaker 1: like three hours, and then two days later she calls
Speaker 1: and she's like, bitch, I'm on my way to your house,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, bitch, you ain't got my address, Just
Speaker 1: like bitch I needed because we're close, So give her
Speaker 1: the address. She pulls up to my house and we
Speaker 1: sit there for like four hours. No in Jersey where
Speaker 1: I live now. She pulls up to the house. He's
Speaker 1: at boarding school, but he still has my ring app
Speaker 1: on his phone, so he sees every man, every woman
Speaker 1: coming in and out of mommy's house. Yeah, so he's like, yo,
Speaker 1: is that aunt Wendy? And she comes in and we
Speaker 1: talk and and it just was like it's even though,
Speaker 1: because when that phone murdering, it's not murdering. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie. When I google that ship, I
Speaker 1: was like, show shot because I remember it back in
Speaker 1: the days when I had to google you because get
Speaker 1: my friend and I love you just cause you don't
Speaker 1: know people. Yeah. So when I looked at it, I
Speaker 1: was like, damn, but what did they get that I
Speaker 1: really did? One of the Andy won't and he's like, oh, yeah, okay, whatever,
Speaker 1: I still got my I Wendy Vy won't let it go.
Speaker 1: He's like, damn, I don't want to ask this question.
Speaker 1: People need more friends like Envy. Yeah, big, by the way,
Speaker 1: but because the next week she invited me to spend
Speaker 1: the night at her house, and you did. He said,
Speaker 1: you call me at the first sign of she's trying
Speaker 1: to get you to take something on one or be
Speaker 1: with somebody you ain't interested in. And I think it's
Speaker 1: probably obvious now that she she personally wasn't trying to
Speaker 1: kill you. Yeah. No, And she said that it was
Speaker 1: an afterthought, which I would have thought this conversation. I
Speaker 1: actually did say we did, but it wasn't. It wasn't
Speaker 1: like she led with it, which I would have appreciated
Speaker 1: more for her to lead with it, by the way, Jones.
Speaker 1: But it was, by the way Jones. You know, Kevin
Speaker 1: was never really trying to kill you. He was just angry.
Speaker 1: So he said, when's this report come out in the
Speaker 1: New York Times. I this wasn't like two thousand, maybe
Speaker 1: nine or ten. And the lawyer representing Wendy's intern that
Speaker 1: was suing Wendy and Kevin, Kenneth Johnson, Kenneth, I forget
Speaker 1: his name. He called and said, I just want to
Speaker 1: let you know that Wendy, her husband was trying to
Speaker 1: murder you. That's pretty Kenneth Thompson, but he was representing
Speaker 1: the girl that was suing Wendy and Kevin. So I said,
Speaker 1: Fitch Wild, when you tell me intentuality to my clients, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's he sucked me around so much in this it's bad. Really,
Speaker 1: Why don't we stay? Why do we are saying in
Speaker 1: these songs they want kid with the press relation, We
Speaker 1: just want our case because when they and Kevin by
Speaker 1: the way, they're coming to get you tonight. So and again,
Speaker 1: I'm in my own personal turmoil with my own life.
Speaker 1: So I'm like that because I'm not on the scene
Speaker 1: at that point. I'm like whatever, whatever. But when we met,
Speaker 1: when she came to my house, she cried, and she
Speaker 1: come to the house with bodyguards and bodyguards staying outside.
Speaker 1: She's she didn't have no, no, it was it should
Speaker 1: have been because she didn't know what she was walking into.
Speaker 1: It was just a driver and me and pop up.
Speaker 1: And so I'm in the house sweating like a freaking
Speaker 1: and I'm clean, sweeping tables, like is a little part
Speaker 1: of you saying you know what? This bit to kill me?
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, no, no, no, no, no, I'm just saying
Speaker 1: she felt she's I never thought that she would ever
Speaker 1: be built. Because anyone that saves you when you need
Speaker 1: a job, your life is in jeopardy. That that to me,
Speaker 1: that proceeded anything anyone could have ever told me, which
Speaker 1: is why people say, now, why are you her friend?
Speaker 1: Because when I was about to like not know where
Speaker 1: I was going to get a check from. All right,
Speaker 1: but this is after because you lived, right, she walks
Speaker 1: in your house. This is the first thing she says,
Speaker 1: that's bullshit. No, she starts showing me how her titties
Speaker 1: sit out without a pencil dropping underneath. That's what you
Speaker 1: guys talking about. No, I didn't say anything. She walks
Speaker 1: in and she goes, kids on, Wenday's here, and then
Speaker 1: she twirls around like wonder Wendy, and she goes look
Speaker 1: at my body and she's and then she goes, come in, Jones,
Speaker 1: bring it in, and then we hug and she's like,
Speaker 1: what are we drinking? What are we doing? And I'm like,
Speaker 1: you want the Hennessy. She's like all day, So we're
Speaker 1: going to live room. So does she Wendy would do
Speaker 1: great on drink champs? Yes, she would do great. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I have her one stop it up. This is story.
Speaker 1: So she's like, so it's kind of like it feels
Speaker 1: like someone you haven't spoken to, but you pick right
Speaker 1: up where you left off. So she's talking about but
Speaker 1: it's a lot of people ain't speaking to and I
Speaker 1: can pick up where I left off. They don't got
Speaker 1: an article about murder. They didn't got to murdering your buddy,
Speaker 1: just murders. Just go too, Hong. You don't want us
Speaker 1: to stop for one second? Right there, right there, all right,
Speaker 1: I might as well. We got fat in me on
Speaker 1: the phone. Hold on around, hold on, holo, holo, hold
Speaker 1: hold on, hold on with miss Joe. Joe he's here,
Speaker 1: live on the phone. Yes, yes, he's alive on the phone. Here,
Speaker 1: come over here, come over here. You know you see
Speaker 1: I got my college in on. You know, you know,
Speaker 1: you know you know. You don't ask you you don't
Speaker 1: ask me for no calls for your car show. But
Speaker 1: it's okay, all right, you know I'm about to you
Speaker 1: know what. But look, miss motherfucking Jones, are you in
Speaker 1: your car show right now? Goddamnit? He gets he getting
Speaker 1: too much money, miss Jones. He get so much money.
Speaker 1: I'm looking up, yo. Let me tell you something, Miss Jones.
Speaker 1: Picked you up so beautiful. She's so much respects you,
Speaker 1: she so much loves you, and we respect you when
Speaker 1: we love you. But I just really wanted you to
Speaker 1: understand and get your flowers too, because you need to.
Speaker 1: Julian life good. God, damn, it makes something. You're good
Speaker 1: looking at it. You know, we love you, man, you
Speaker 1: know you know what. We're gonna make sure she get
Speaker 1: back to having fun. Oh, hold on, hold on, hold on.
Speaker 1: I wear flowers. I would like flowers. I don't want
Speaker 1: to give flowers. I give my flowers and I wear flowers,
Speaker 1: but I don't like to give it myself. But yeah,
Speaker 1: we thank you so much. I mean, we appreciate you,
Speaker 1: my brother. What love makes some knowing? Yeah, come on,
Speaker 1: come on, come on, come on listen, No, listen, this
Speaker 1: is like the biggest podcast in the world, and so listen.
Speaker 1: I have been like so excited when I reached out
Speaker 1: to you and asked. It was because it was like
Speaker 1: six months or not six months, like three months of
Speaker 1: me saying I can get on drink cham that's gonna
Speaker 1: term you're crazy. You never not now. Just so you know,
Speaker 1: we made this platform for for us. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying to think about this. We love to do artists,
Speaker 1: but some of them, you know, their last two years
Speaker 1: one year and they leave and you know we we
Speaker 1: invented the idea of a hip hop union and the
Speaker 1: hip hop union bees. It's like somebody put it in there.
Speaker 1: They work and they you know, they blessed, sweat and tears,
Speaker 1: and then after after ten years, your bills should be
Speaker 1: taken care of. Your whole thing. So this this is
Speaker 1: with me and my partner. You're telling an amazing job
Speaker 1: if it is trying to do it. And this is
Speaker 1: the like, this is the grammy of hip hop. Because
Speaker 1: I want to reiterate something that I said earlier, was
Speaker 1: you like kind of invented social media. Like in my opinion, Uh,
Speaker 1: most things that happened in the hip hop people will
Speaker 1: have to call you and if they couldn't care you,
Speaker 1: they would d M you, which is the private line.
Speaker 1: But how is that because I won't point if if
Speaker 1: it didn't happen on your show, it just didn't happen.
Speaker 1: What happened maybe okay, okay, well let's just focus on you.
Speaker 1: I like it all right, So at won't point you
Speaker 1: know things happened to your show? Was that like a
Speaker 1: crutch or was that like because because sometimes people get bad.
Speaker 1: Artist is very sensitive. So there hasn't been a time
Speaker 1: where artists you reported something to an artist who got
Speaker 1: sitisenive on you always, always, always Beyonce's mom, she wanted
Speaker 1: to fight me a child. No I'm not a child,
Speaker 1: but she wanted to fight me. She came to me
Speaker 1: in the studio and soss, okay, you must have got
Speaker 1: a really piston up. What did you What did you do?
Speaker 1: She seems like I kind of like, what is it?
Speaker 1: COMPARI and so one day and and and so Beyonce
Speaker 1: was coming up to the station, but Ebro with them
Speaker 1: didn't tell me because they knew that I would either
Speaker 1: try and like I was unpredictable because you did say
Speaker 1: Mary j. Blast can't say you did say that at
Speaker 1: one point. A lot of times she can't. I love
Speaker 1: her own power, but it doesn't nowadays. You don't have
Speaker 1: to be able to sing. And that's what I learned.
Speaker 1: It's not about singing. It's about emotion. Good sing, good thing.
Speaker 1: I'm clapping up, very skeptic, right, It's about emotion. You
Speaker 1: don't have to be technical. You have to be the
Speaker 1: best singer right to be successful, to have a great record,
Speaker 1: because you're who you are, the emotion, the way you
Speaker 1: conveying the friend right, she sells the brand of black girl,
Speaker 1: hurt and love. That's saying, that's it. You win, Jesus,
Speaker 1: it's time to be the queen. Flip. It's very hot
Speaker 1: over there. I'll just let you know. He'll be fine.
Speaker 1: She just said. Mary Jakes cast saying pushing it. You're
Speaker 1: pushing it, you're pushing it. Well, I mean that doesn't
Speaker 1: mean that she's not a great artist. Isn't a great singer?
Speaker 1: Macy Gray Okay, well it depends I think for her
Speaker 1: vocal into her voice or not that. No, it's a
Speaker 1: different type of voice. But so it's Mary. If you're
Speaker 1: into it, you're into it. It doesn't matter. And the song,
Speaker 1: the brand is consistent. Mary's brand is consistent throughout the years.
Speaker 1: You know, if you're hurting in love, put on a
Speaker 1: married song. She wins by the fall. You know, I've
Speaker 1: been hurting in love for a little tough. So I love.
Speaker 1: I saw your gorgeous wife, not recently but back to day. Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: so as you think that you were married is because
Speaker 1: of what you mentioned earlier where you felt like Papa
Speaker 1: was kind of like, is it just that all? Here's
Speaker 1: the thing when I picked you again, so I'm sorry
Speaker 1: I cut you off. Now it's fine. But ahead, Mary
Speaker 1: and I have no beat. Like when we see each other,
Speaker 1: She's like, you want some wine? Did made? Is one
Speaker 1: of the first. We don't have those conversations. We don't
Speaker 1: have those conversations. And one day and I don't have
Speaker 1: those conversations. So here's the interesting thing when I when
Speaker 1: you try to Bertie, it's a little different. I don't know. Sorry,
Speaker 1: I went to murdership. Murder already died. It's murder happens.
Speaker 1: Was like, I swear to God, you don't need my sister.
Speaker 1: I love you. So when I googled you and it
Speaker 1: kept coming up, I was like, damn, I had to
Speaker 1: I swear off. I wanted to excluded it from the interview,
Speaker 1: but I kept googled it. Every it leaves. It leaves
Speaker 1: when wanted murder, and it leaves now because she and
Speaker 1: I are like out in these streets together every chance,
Speaker 1: as pictures and stuff like that. And here's the thing, Mary,
Speaker 1: Mary's like, Mary is unaware of I guess how I
Speaker 1: feel like, um, sab Judah does these celebrity boxing matches
Speaker 1: and he wants me and married a fight. Oh that
Speaker 1: that's never gonna happen, obviously, But so I've challenged her.
Speaker 1: I was like, come get these boys, bitches what she
Speaker 1: wanted to be and I'm not I need to stretch
Speaker 1: and like lose weight and all these things. But it
Speaker 1: was fun. But I think she's shut down my I
Speaker 1: G page. She shut it down. Probably not. I'm just
Speaker 1: running with it. But I don't have a problem with her.
Speaker 1: She really don't have a problem with me because she's
Speaker 1: come to my show in Philly. We like, we're good.
Speaker 1: She's not that complex. It's just me with this whole
Speaker 1: I have a thing, like I have a thing. So
Speaker 1: you don't think that if she's questioned and taken back
Speaker 1: because it's easy for someone to have a career and
Speaker 1: in the beginning of their career not acknowledged certain people
Speaker 1: that are around their peers, right, but after they've had
Speaker 1: huge career, they could look back and say, yes, this
Speaker 1: person was on the forefront of this, They were the
Speaker 1: pioneer of this. They were before me and this. You
Speaker 1: don't think she do that, right? Now, get her asked
Speaker 1: on your show and find out, because here's the better question.
Speaker 1: After you guys will competing in music. She's never capable
Speaker 1: miss your own show ever. You never interview to come.
Speaker 1: But she came on my show and Philly, Okay, that's
Speaker 1: your show. But what does that mean? I think she
Speaker 1: didn't realize that it was Jonesy because in Philly they
Speaker 1: called me Jones. New York calls me miss Jones. No,
Speaker 1: she realized she probably Martest. No, we played. She made
Speaker 1: me drinks. Okay, yeah, I'll be drinking girl. I know
Speaker 1: it's Joseph Jozi. I don't know. I'm married right there.
Speaker 1: I think I think Mary exactly new who exactly you were? Okay? Well,
Speaker 1: and I took it okay, but I still talk my
Speaker 1: I played too much. They all know Mary Faith Faith
Speaker 1: not speaking to me now, Mary Faith, Lauren, they all
Speaker 1: know I played too much, but it's who I am.
Speaker 1: Let's let's go with Laura. Who got be for Lauria? No,
Speaker 1: I really don't have beef with Lauren. But Faith is
Speaker 1: mad because she came on my podcast and it was
Speaker 1: all going good and then I got silly and I
Speaker 1: was like, who is better? In bad too Papa Bibi,
Speaker 1: Oh my god, and the record scraps like what She's like,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't know why you asked my head too, but
Speaker 1: so like I just be playing too much. Nori helped me. No,
Speaker 1: I can't row this one. That one was terrible. You
Speaker 1: really are is bad. It was bad. But to the
Speaker 1: point did she take a humorous well in that monte?
Speaker 1: She actually was like, I didn't have sex with him
Speaker 1: and I we carried on faith on our show. Was
Speaker 1: super candid. She waspen she said straight up, she didn't,
Speaker 1: but I had to ask her. She said a lot
Speaker 1: of but I had to ask because that's what I'm
Speaker 1: known for doing. How could I not ask? And she
Speaker 1: was fine, she like. We kept on with the interview,
Speaker 1: and then later that night I got an email that
Speaker 1: CCTs Stevie J and me, how dare you ask me
Speaker 1: those questions? That was disrespectful of my husband. My husband
Speaker 1: would not appreciate you having asked those questions. My husband
Speaker 1: is up. Stevie, get out of face email and go
Speaker 1: to bed. I have a Stevie J. Satday night email
Speaker 1: to me. But I apologize to the Jordan's ship. Yes,
Speaker 1: I was ready for little did you get a show.
Speaker 1: I see I seen one in room. Yeah. Yeah, if
Speaker 1: you made a tragedy, I watched it all, Bro, I
Speaker 1: appreciate watch it. B It means a lot of flip
Speaker 1: got it the last he's going to people cribs. You're
Speaker 1: not heavy because look at what you just did after
Speaker 1: that Mary story and faith backing up and yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't want sev J coming in with them. Okay, but
Speaker 1: here's here's another deal. I ask you little Kim or Foxy? Yeah,
Speaker 1: he said neither, right, You're the first person to ever
Speaker 1: say neither. Come on, let's do a shot. I let
Speaker 1: your style shot a porn ready. Ah, you said, this
Speaker 1: is the for lack of a crater term, especially our time,
Speaker 1: especially at the time you came out. You were on
Speaker 1: a Z number one single, your own one, everybody's record
Speaker 1: many A. Yeah, how can how can you say little
Speaker 1: Kim Foxy Brown and not picked either? And I would like,
Speaker 1: you know what, I love them both, but I would
Speaker 1: like your gud honest opinion. So that's the thing. Yes,
Speaker 1: we all, as much as we may not want to admit,
Speaker 1: we know that Biggie was the best writer for Kim
Speaker 1: and was big passed away the level of lyricality kind
Speaker 1: of waned. I love that word. I've never heard of liberality.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't even take the word. That's hall.
Speaker 1: That was all Google it. Make it a word, make
Speaker 1: it a word. It waned after he passed away, like
Speaker 1: we waited and waited and waited for her specifically to stay. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I don't know that and maybe we just had
Speaker 1: bigger expectations because it was he writing for her. But
Speaker 1: when she finally did for me. If it's a wordy,
Speaker 1: go ahead, Jonesy, it just it felt all right, that's you, right,
Speaker 1: So I just and Foxy, it's personal, it's personal. Well,
Speaker 1: she's just she's just nasty. She's just meaning for no
Speaker 1: reason to me or back then like just like irrational
Speaker 1: and I can't do it. I can't do I don't
Speaker 1: care how much of flow is good and who you
Speaker 1: are feeling? It was that sorry, so sorry. I don't
Speaker 1: know of course it online, but who what was like
Speaker 1: easy was like her quiet man? Or you did a
Speaker 1: record where eazy that did that anything had anything to
Speaker 1: do with it an epiphany head. I had no idea
Speaker 1: it's a legend that would make sense. I didn't know
Speaker 1: that girl. I hadn't. I didn't heard that both. That
Speaker 1: makes the exactly I'm clear to allow Nori. That's this
Speaker 1: is Allegendly we have a Z on the show. He's
Speaker 1: been supposed to. He's got a new album coming, so
Speaker 1: he needs to come. Yeah, me to, He's supposed to come,
Speaker 1: my mind, but he's like Jones, do you know the
Speaker 1: creative process? That would make sense because I never knew why.
Speaker 1: She just is always those ways to me. This was
Speaker 1: so look at the timeline. Was it after that? It
Speaker 1: was because because I was on the Firm album. I
Speaker 1: did a song on the Firm album. Yeah, but after
Speaker 1: I'm like, white, Wow, thank you Noram can give me that.
Speaker 1: You gave me my closure that I needed. Wow. Whoever
Speaker 1: thought it would have come on drink Champ Allegedly it
Speaker 1: happens this way. You're up, We're okay, you're Punt. This
Speaker 1: is super alleged. Leave everything that is not allegedly as
Speaker 1: me and Pun was like he was my love story.
Speaker 1: Yeah we never foxed, but we could have, but we
Speaker 1: did it. Jesus, but we that's a love story. That's
Speaker 1: like you're in love with him without So here's the thing.
Speaker 1: When I met Pun, the exact story. That was really
Speaker 1: sad when he died, but so the I go lie,
Speaker 1: y'all was sorry to the situation, but nice to see y'all.
Speaker 1: Y'all was cute together, like like he would like rub
Speaker 1: your nose, like your nod. Yeah. Yeah. Han would come
Speaker 1: to my house every night of the week after like
Speaker 1: seven pm and just be. He would be. He would share,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, this is this is something you know what
Speaker 1: it's twenty years twenty five years later. Do you think
Speaker 1: was in love with you? I know that he was.
Speaker 1: I think so too. Why do you think that? No? Stop,
Speaker 1: I meant no, But honestly, I'm so sorry because you
Speaker 1: know it's it's People can be offended by this part
Speaker 1: of the interview, but it's okay, and I apologize. But
Speaker 1: I never see him blush when I see him around.
Speaker 1: You see him blush, and it was like blussing right now.
Speaker 1: He was good to me. He was good to me
Speaker 1: without me maybe even like I never I just was
Speaker 1: able to be regular Tarsha from a stormy up and
Speaker 1: he didn't judge me. No. I just remember how my
Speaker 1: brother thought about her, like I seard, no, that's serious.
Speaker 1: And he's the guy from the Bronx. I'm you know her,
Speaker 1: I'm her brother. So when I heard him talking about her,
Speaker 1: I couldn't. I could not stop him because it was
Speaker 1: so respectful, it was so lovable, and it was so like,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm sorry because I can see her face
Speaker 1: right now, Okay, alright, cool, because I could, I couldn't
Speaker 1: physically see that. I can really see when he was
Speaker 1: around you, like he felt comfortable, he lowered his thing,
Speaker 1: and you know, I posized anybody's hurt from what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But I could see that he had a certain part
Speaker 1: of his heart for you. And did you did you
Speaker 1: know that? I did? Okay? And but but again he
Speaker 1: was always married. Was it reciprocal? Like did you feel
Speaker 1: the same way I did? Because he didn't want nothing
Speaker 1: from me, He didn't need anything. It was pure emotion,
Speaker 1: and he met me where I was like, he always
Speaker 1: was available to me in the midst of his busy.
Speaker 1: He always at the end of the night, that driver
Speaker 1: would bring him West End Avenue, Apartment two. K you know,
Speaker 1: it's the great shot Western Avenue at that time. Relax,
Speaker 1: kick yourself, I knew, okay, okay, so so you know,
Speaker 1: and yeah, so he was at the height, and when
Speaker 1: you're at the height, it's hard to get people to
Speaker 1: receive you where you are. But he knew I didn't
Speaker 1: want nothing from him but those laughs. And he knew
Speaker 1: I was dealing with some mental ship from the person
Speaker 1: Novice with at the time, and he pulled me up
Speaker 1: out of that and he did a remix on for
Speaker 1: my album because he knew the label was about to
Speaker 1: drop me, and he said, if I do this remix,
Speaker 1: not only will they keep you, but they'll send you
Speaker 1: on tour with me, and I'll threaten them if they don't.
Speaker 1: And that happened, and Motown got me a tour bus.
Speaker 1: Next thing, I knew, I was the most unworthy R
Speaker 1: and B artist on tour with Fat Joe and Big Punt.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah yeah. And then and then when all
Speaker 1: this ship happened at Many seven and I needed to
Speaker 1: move from that apartment to Harlem, who gave me first
Speaker 1: month's last month security. We've never heard this, We need
Speaker 1: you to save yeah yeah yeah, Big Punt gave me
Speaker 1: first months last month security. Come up to my office,
Speaker 1: the check will be there. And I never I always
Speaker 1: knew it was like you know, I knew it was
Speaker 1: a deeper love, like you know, I'm too young to
Speaker 1: like identify what it actually is, but I'm old enough
Speaker 1: to know there's something there that's like, it's beautiful. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we kept it clean. It's never physical, which is which
Speaker 1: is like we need to make that clear. You know,
Speaker 1: we never had sex, we never kissed, we never did anything.
Speaker 1: But there was a high level of intimacy without the sex,
Speaker 1: which is I understand. I'm trying to promote that. I'm
Speaker 1: sorry that that was real. That was real. That's real
Speaker 1: because you know, thank you. Normy's my brother. No one
Speaker 1: ever spoke for his side until now. No I knew,
Speaker 1: I knew, I knew how he felt about it. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: I know they're gonna hate me, like the family they
Speaker 1: got bigger. But that's that's real ship, man, I was.
Speaker 1: I saw it, like, you know, this is my sis.
Speaker 1: So I'm saying it back like and I'm looking at
Speaker 1: like damn and like he would go involve and beyond
Speaker 1: to make like you know whatever, like you just go
Speaker 1: to the Miss Jones says like where are we going?
Speaker 1: Like let's go. I'm like okay, and I just to
Speaker 1: this day. I had no idea he put me down
Speaker 1: on his publishing. Wait wait like his regularly, like all
Speaker 1: his publishing, I get checks on songs should not be said,
Speaker 1: wait now whole a minute. Who have been waiting? And
Speaker 1: I ain't trying to sunk up my ship? But it's done.
Speaker 1: It's done. It was his choice, right right, Yeah, absolutely,
Speaker 1: he put me down like I live, Jalen, you live
Speaker 1: off of the royalties of big pun. I just I
Speaker 1: knew how he looked at her. I knew how he saw.
Speaker 1: I didn't know anything else, and I didn't want to
Speaker 1: know anything else. It wasn't my business. But I could
Speaker 1: never take away from how he looked at us, how
Speaker 1: he saw, how he treated up every single, single single moment.
Speaker 1: So now we get a little deep, it's gonna be
Speaker 1: a little weird. But what how did you feel like
Speaker 1: when he passed away? Like you know, I passed out
Speaker 1: at the funeral and they had to pick me up
Speaker 1: off the floor. Definitely remember that it was it was
Speaker 1: we had just come off tour and it was like
Speaker 1: two months later, and yeah, it wasn't a lot of pain.
Speaker 1: It was in a lot of pain more than physically.
Speaker 1: That's what fox me up. When I went to the casket,
Speaker 1: that's what the brothers told me. They said, he's he
Speaker 1: was in pain. I never see him physically in pain.
Speaker 1: I never I saw him. You know, I saw him
Speaker 1: go to sleep like and later on I figured out
Speaker 1: that was knocking. But I've never seen him fully in pay.
Speaker 1: So you know, if you could give me some that
Speaker 1: you saw him and so he used to I mean,
Speaker 1: we used to have conversations about his relationship with his mom,
Speaker 1: his relationship with his mom. Well, boys relationships with their
Speaker 1: mom's told you, men, it's how you. I loved how
Speaker 1: you looked, and said, boys relationship with their moms at
Speaker 1: when you're young, that's what forms your relationship with women.
Speaker 1: Your relationship with your mom. Go ahead. He just used
Speaker 1: to discuss and open up about his relationship with his mother.
Speaker 1: At that time. It wasn't the greatest and you know,
Speaker 1: maybe they needed time to grow, but he didn't live
Speaker 1: beyond that. So they were still trying to figure things out.
Speaker 1: And I was never I wasn't judged men. So because
Speaker 1: like us as people of color, we are born into trauma.
Speaker 1: We're born into trauma and it becomes ordinary. We face trauma.
Speaker 1: We dress up for the wake and the funeral and
Speaker 1: then after like three days, we have to go back
Speaker 1: to work with school like nothing has happened. And this
Speaker 1: is how we're raised, and we grow and it becomes
Speaker 1: normal and you don't see that their ship that wasn't addressed,
Speaker 1: and so we go through life and then you get
Speaker 1: older and that ship that's not been addressed, you just
Speaker 1: carry it. So he was dealing with a lot of pain.
Speaker 1: So I just want to actually straight up, I'm just
Speaker 1: being honest because this is something a question I cannot
Speaker 1: get answered. He told you he was in pain. Wow.
Speaker 1: And he told me why. He told me what happened
Speaker 1: leading up to and he discussed the weight gain and
Speaker 1: what prompted that, and he told me when I met Pun,
Speaker 1: he was not overweight. He was like yeah, he was
Speaker 1: swelt like like Verry and he and he um. So
Speaker 1: I didn't meet the overweight Pun. I met that Pun
Speaker 1: and he liked me then, but I didn't know he
Speaker 1: liked me then. He was in a talent show at
Speaker 1: the Victoria Theater theater up in Harlem, and he had
Speaker 1: jumped off the stage. I was a judge and was
Speaker 1: doing his song to me. But I saw the talent then,
Speaker 1: so I'm giving it up just because he was talented.
Speaker 1: He remembered, he remembered, I met you blah blah blah
Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah. And then some accident happened in
Speaker 1: the lawsuit and yeah, so you know. But so he
Speaker 1: would share that with me, and I don't judge, because
Speaker 1: I just don't judge, Like who then am I to judge?
Speaker 1: But we used to have barbecues at my Manhattan apartment, Brandy.
Speaker 1: Everybody would come and he would ask that I'm put
Speaker 1: his plate to the side because he knew that people
Speaker 1: would be watching him while he was eating, and he
Speaker 1: didn't want that. You don't want that distraction. You don't
Speaker 1: want that, you know. And and I got it because
Speaker 1: fuck them, I'll put your plate to the side. But
Speaker 1: I don't know that he had that type of transparency
Speaker 1: with a lot of other people, and he knew he
Speaker 1: could trust me with it, because again I ain't judging,
Speaker 1: So I think that encourages the love. It was intimacy
Speaker 1: without sex, without physicality, without oh I'm a fuck, It
Speaker 1: was none of that stuff. It's just it was other people.
Speaker 1: There's always other people. We talked about a few circle back.
Speaker 1: I'll never tell you, but so you know. So it
Speaker 1: was like um and and and he took me on
Speaker 1: his back struggling r and B artists and put me
Speaker 1: on his song, came on my song to a street remix,
Speaker 1: made motown, get me a tour, bus, hotel rooms, um
Speaker 1: uh everything, street team, everything. And if it hadn't been
Speaker 1: for Pun, I probably would have never experienced going on tour.
Speaker 1: I was beautiful man. For me, that like the outside
Speaker 1: looking in, you know, I was never like and you
Speaker 1: guys conversation. I just see you guys just like you
Speaker 1: guys are like pomp heads. You know. I didn't know,
Speaker 1: you know, I do. I knew it was. It was
Speaker 1: something respect. You know, it's because an outsider, which is
Speaker 1: close to perm. Yeah. And I was just like, all
Speaker 1: right when I see that, I was just like I
Speaker 1: always felt back. It was a special it's a special commodity.
Speaker 1: What is that? Yeah? But oh man, this is so
Speaker 1: let's go. Let's let's up about you right there. What's up?
Speaker 1: What's up? Man, queens flip that's the day of the show.
Speaker 1: Put the script podcast, the script podcast. Okay, so how
Speaker 1: did you get started? Yeah, let's keep you up. Drink
Speaker 1: pretty your family to your family, pretty much. We love
Speaker 1: what you're doing. You too, So let's it's um that's
Speaker 1: the beginning of the podcast. Yeah, I mean, so me,
Speaker 1: me and Queens Flip is you know, good friends for
Speaker 1: like fifteen plus years now. So I met him. He
Speaker 1: was doing music. He was rapping DJ it was wrapping.
Speaker 1: He was rapping. He was wrapping some songs on YouTube. Sorry, Flip, sorry, Flips,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be bad. He might be a little mad,
Speaker 1: but but he's always mad, you know. So like so
Speaker 1: like many people who who know Queen's Flip, when you
Speaker 1: first meet him, it's kind of like he gives you
Speaker 1: like a little test or I called the test flight.
Speaker 1: Everybody who's he's close to he kind of like presses
Speaker 1: you a little bit. When I first met him, he
Speaker 1: kind of pressed me about playing song, and we had
Speaker 1: like a little I'm like yea, you know, like like
Speaker 1: it out of here? Yeah, do you have big tapes
Speaker 1: hit me? Yeah? Yeah? Makes say but he wanted hit
Speaker 1: song played at this Uh at Rochester had a Rochester Day,
Speaker 1: Rochester Day and Queens, so he wanted to get his
Speaker 1: song played. Yeah, so you want to get his song played? Uh?
Speaker 1: I wasn't d J my friend was DJ said like,
Speaker 1: you'll tell you man to play the record. I'm like, yeah, bro,
Speaker 1: like come on, he's pressing me. So from this is
Speaker 1: when we kind of first started to get cool back then.
Speaker 1: But the podcast started because um, I had my own
Speaker 1: radio show that that got uh like serious satellite all
Speaker 1: dover to the row. He was a call his radio
Speaker 1: like type of ship was on DTAX. We actually interview
Speaker 1: on dtver the So I don't want to you on DTF.
Speaker 1: We interview years ago, So that that show stopped, and
Speaker 1: then um people kept saying, yo, you want flip do
Speaker 1: you do your own show? That's your man, right, he
Speaker 1: going viral, going crazy? You and his personality is kind
Speaker 1: of different. It'll mesh, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: we did our first episode about four years ago. Who
Speaker 1: was that with? So our first episode, you know, he
Speaker 1: wanted to come out of the gate. You know. His
Speaker 1: idea was the make some noise and and get a
Speaker 1: little crazy. Not yet the gangsters came a little later.
Speaker 1: Episode one we have we had a girl uh give
Speaker 1: a little bit of you know, yaw ya on camera
Speaker 1: without crashing. Yeah. Episode one, you know, because we felt like,
Speaker 1: you know, the podcast game is going crazy right now.
Speaker 1: We got people like you know, Charlotte Magne, these other
Speaker 1: guys who are doing shows, Envy, you know, they're doing
Speaker 1: their podcast who we kind of wanted to make a
Speaker 1: name for ourselves. So we started out by by interviewing
Speaker 1: the guy, um while he was to give what the
Speaker 1: guy was receiving, we did to do with him and
Speaker 1: see if wait wait wait wait a second, a second.
Speaker 1: So that was the game. That was like episode one.
Speaker 1: Y'all set it up like you're gonna get head while
Speaker 1: we give you the interview, or did it happen that
Speaker 1: the guy? So I we interviewed the escort, right, and
Speaker 1: escort as the guy the girl. The girl John walked
Speaker 1: in and then he walked in and we let them
Speaker 1: set up, let them get comfortable, and left the room.
Speaker 1: Came back in the room and we started asking her
Speaker 1: and asking him how good she was, and you know,
Speaker 1: just to see what if she's performing to the to
Speaker 1: the her ability to see what I'm saying, drink pal.
Speaker 1: You know. We went from there to Eddie that is
Speaker 1: he gonna have to step it up, man, let me
Speaker 1: tell you step it up. From there. From there, you know,
Speaker 1: we had a bunch of the guests on the show,
Speaker 1: and then um, somebody stabbed somebody that we got we
Speaker 1: got to beamy. We have Bammy on the show. Right,
Speaker 1: we have Bammy and we had uh shake Davis, we
Speaker 1: had Supreme something to show some people like that. And
Speaker 1: then we realized that the oldiest wanted to see those
Speaker 1: stories hit those stories. So we started interviewing all the um'
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, we we had we had Kevin y'alla.
Speaker 1: But the crowd, you know, the crowd is funding. I
Speaker 1: think we had our first like NYC Blood. Uh the
Speaker 1: o g s on our showing. The numbers went crazy.
Speaker 1: So after that's all right, this is we gotta go.
Speaker 1: We gotta talking the street. But doesn't that kind of
Speaker 1: commit you to that, like once you you wanted, don't
Speaker 1: you gotta commit it to be doing everyone? Because now, alright, cool,
Speaker 1: this guy says, I'm the NYC Blood ship just familiar,
Speaker 1: but this is why I said I'm the first YC Blood. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And then this one said I'm the first NYC creb.
Speaker 1: Like what does that bring y'all that that well, I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, we don't know who's official, right because we
Speaker 1: weren't there and writers and when everything he first started.
Speaker 1: So we get the first guy and then he co
Speaker 1: signs the next guy like, yeah, I was there with
Speaker 1: him Brooklyn cav got a coach signs, so you go
Speaker 1: that way. But of course my phone wasn't going crazy.
Speaker 1: For the rest of the world, Like everyone is saying anybody,
Speaker 1: how how tough you are. There's always someone who says
Speaker 1: he pussy right. There's always someone tough about how rich
Speaker 1: you are. There's always someone to say you bro, that's
Speaker 1: the fact. Pussy you guys always someone to say that
Speaker 1: you don't get nothing went to But you understand what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So so how do you balance that because
Speaker 1: I can't. Yeah. I mean, you know, like I said,
Speaker 1: we have we had guys like like like killing Cab
Speaker 1: and you know O G Nooking, you know, so be
Speaker 1: we had them, we had them confirmed. I right, this
Speaker 1: guy's valot, this guy's valid, and then you know we
Speaker 1: try to go to uh, there's always somebody that Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I think I thought I was left him because
Speaker 1: it's now as everybody want to get the ball once
Speaker 1: because you said you said the numbers weren't crazy, so
Speaker 1: it would allude to that. That's what inspires you to
Speaker 1: keep going, Like, at what point does the numbers going crazy?
Speaker 1: Not like it becomes detrimental to what, you know, to
Speaker 1: the platform. I mean, you know, like like I said,
Speaker 1: at a certain point, we kind of just slowed down
Speaker 1: with it. We felt like everyone in New York wanted
Speaker 1: to get their story heard, and everyone that gays do y'all. Yeah,
Speaker 1: It's like I was so happy that they came to you.
Speaker 1: I was so happy. I was like, oh, yeah, go
Speaker 1: to these Yes, yes, because I've watched it everything. He
Speaker 1: took it. We took it. And then I think we
Speaker 1: went from there. So we started interviewing people who just
Speaker 1: came home that did twenty thirty years and did they
Speaker 1: hit their story about whether they was accused you know,
Speaker 1: uh fALS somebody that always refused their story of course,
Speaker 1: of course, of course. But you know, we went from
Speaker 1: there and just started growing and just getting different guests,
Speaker 1: and you know, we kind of ran We ran SMS Jones.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, something down a whole new
Speaker 1: uh uh show with miss Jones. They got a whole
Speaker 1: new show. Yeah, Queenslip and Jones Thursday, So it's on
Speaker 1: Thursday nights. He calls it me and Miss Jones, I
Speaker 1: call it the King and I and we just like
Speaker 1: the group, The King and I remember the Nobody. Remember
Speaker 1: the King and I. I thought that was dope. That
Speaker 1: group was dope. Well it was the artist. It was
Speaker 1: one artist at right. But no flip flip Thursday nights
Speaker 1: nights and let me ask yourself, because you say you've
Speaker 1: got something on Monday, that's my reunion job, Miss Jones,
Speaker 1: reunion if you want, where did you drop your audio
Speaker 1: of that? So we tape it Sunday night me dj
Speaker 1: n V from the Breakfast club. Like Sean, Yeah, sometimes Ebro,
Speaker 1: you know, he's shakes, he's the reporter, he's the edge
Speaker 1: of the ship. No, he comes on the show, but
Speaker 1: he's like after he caught COVID, he like fell back
Speaker 1: and I didn't want to push and like the core
Speaker 1: of the show is me Enva, Mike, Sean. Anyway, so
Speaker 1: we do every Sunday. Last week we had every Week's
Speaker 1: really a good guy man, please me, please, still gotta
Speaker 1: stop coming to his house. He gotta stop. So so
Speaker 1: I just want to tell you that Envy has not
Speaker 1: shown up for the last two weeks because he thinks
Speaker 1: that I'm down with Flip in these skits. Yes, okay,
Speaker 1: that's that's that's Flip and Envy is playing these skits out.
Speaker 1: I'm not there, bro, I don't do So they knew
Speaker 1: of each other, but their main connection is me. So
Speaker 1: I'm like Envy, he's good, and Flip wanted this first
Speaker 1: from beating. So I introduced that we don't believe this,
Speaker 1: Miss Jones will be an earnest. Well, we see Flip
Speaker 1: up over the game, but here's what happens. And he said,
Speaker 1: come come for the verse on Wednesday at three, right,
Speaker 1: Flip shows up Monday at one, So I believe that point. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then he showed up early, like early with the
Speaker 1: bullshit and so but now it's funny, like I look
Speaker 1: forward to the Envy and and and Flips gets in.
Speaker 1: I don't know, but Envy's like, oh, he showed me
Speaker 1: phone records. You're talking to him twenty minutes before he
Speaker 1: breaks in my house. He brought a mariachi band and
Speaker 1: you didn't say nothing. And so I'm just trying to like, yeah, honest,
Speaker 1: can I have a bottle to go? You could have
Speaker 1: this bottle to go for you right there, I am,
Speaker 1: But do you want to wanting to drink right here,
Speaker 1: Like I said, I sip because it just black because
Speaker 1: I was doing the said a little bit, which, yeah,
Speaker 1: because I was doing the then I need to sip
Speaker 1: a bit. Listen, this is this is blackways. I'll have
Speaker 1: a sad Yeah you can take that to go. Yeah
Speaker 1: the whole cop oh the better. So so what was wanted?
Speaker 1: What was your interview? You'll wish your did what we
Speaker 1: didn't do. I think it could be politically direct right there, man, easy,
Speaker 1: I know, I know, I know because on the podcast
Speaker 1: right if you see like flippers, the one that's I'm
Speaker 1: the one that's kind of like mellow. So a question
Speaker 1: like that for me is like to answer that as
Speaker 1: like tough. But you know, we here, we drink chance man,
Speaker 1: um haven't been here. This is your drinks, that's your shot.
Speaker 1: That's two different things. There's an interview did that I
Speaker 1: couldn't get here because the guests because the guests didn't
Speaker 1: want to to be heir it okay? Who um? Terry Woods,
Speaker 1: the author, the book author, Why what does she write?
Speaker 1: She wrote, black Man? She wrote true to the game,
Speaker 1: true to the game. That's the people because wait a minute,
Speaker 1: he would you better say, I mean you asked me
Speaker 1: what an interview? We regret that we did. So she
Speaker 1: comes to the part I regret it because we couldn't
Speaker 1: hear it. What happened something? I think it was a
Speaker 1: great show. It was a great time. Um uh. After
Speaker 1: after the interview, she called and felt like we asked
Speaker 1: the crazy questions and she didn't like the questions whatever
Speaker 1: she didn't want Can you give me a example of
Speaker 1: garth the crazy questions? But we can be kind of
Speaker 1: asked a lot of the same questions we all, I guess,
Speaker 1: like you know about when it came up and you know,
Speaker 1: uh not like drink chance where he was like, did
Speaker 1: you eat? As I be honest, I don't actually we asked,
Speaker 1: I be honest. You eat a lot of EA ain't
Speaker 1: gonna come, but you eat asked. I'm gonna pick either,
Speaker 1: but you've ate asked, never asked before. The night is
Speaker 1: still young? Yeah, Mary, I tell you carry on now.
Speaker 1: I jumped always come on you big now now crazy
Speaker 1: right now? I think I think one of the questions
Speaker 1: we asked her was uh because her whole come up
Speaker 1: when she was grinding like that, we asked her did
Speaker 1: she sleep with anybody? On the way up and she
Speaker 1: said no. We asked her again, but we done to
Speaker 1: all our guests. We asked some questions about their past
Speaker 1: and who they you know, who they slept but when
Speaker 1: they you know, did this without of that? But she
Speaker 1: kind of. But we had a great interview. It was great,
Speaker 1: We had fun. She left, she was happy, but um,
Speaker 1: I said, regretted because like, you know, I feel like
Speaker 1: I wanted to put that show up. It was it
Speaker 1: was a good time, was good in view. We had
Speaker 1: a good time. She she felt away afterwards that we
Speaker 1: were coming at her and we were talking down the
Speaker 1: of the advocate. For one second. I've been in this
Speaker 1: gate twenty two years. No one's ever asked me who
Speaker 1: I slept with. And I think asking a woman that
Speaker 1: is he's the crazy. I'm so sorry. So I'm just
Speaker 1: trying to but I asked her that three times. This
Speaker 1: is my sister, and I said that three times. She
Speaker 1: didn't even think of that to ask me back, Well,
Speaker 1: you didn't ask that, No, I asked, no, not asked directly.
Speaker 1: I just said, you know, and that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So you don't think that's like advantage of sometimes like
Speaker 1: but like all right, so, because like, so if I would.
Speaker 1: What I'm saying is, I'm write a couple of the
Speaker 1: Queze Flip Show y'all and y'all don't think. I don't
Speaker 1: think you'all would ask me that we would? And why
Speaker 1: would you ask her that you wouldn't ask him a shot?
Speaker 1: We actually we don't ask You don't ask you what fun?
Speaker 1: So I'm telling you you shot you be talking about
Speaker 1: this ship I've been watching, Yeah, and then who ima who?
Speaker 1: I pushed it so but you never you never blow
Speaker 1: so one thing like you said, you asked me, that's fun?
Speaker 1: You asked me joining at three time you said, yeah,
Speaker 1: she won't I feel like she won't leave him, and
Speaker 1: be like, oh no, in three different ways. Ask me
Speaker 1: why he tried to keep that I know how to
Speaker 1: do it. Yeah, but but she won't feel the way though.
Speaker 1: You know, I don't think you leave here feeling the way.
Speaker 1: Do what I'm saying, I'm so will you asked when
Speaker 1: you said you'll ask, I asked you did you do? She? Actually? Yeah,
Speaker 1: she would know what I'm saying. When he said to
Speaker 1: Tebry what yeah, you said you let it too, that
Speaker 1: you asked her. Yo, You're sleeping somebody to get to
Speaker 1: the top. But in those words, I like that, she responded.
Speaker 1: She responded that question. The whole interview was done. We
Speaker 1: did the whole interview and we left, and it shows up.
Speaker 1: She's like, you had a great time. This was dope laughing,
Speaker 1: you know. And then I guess she went home and
Speaker 1: thought about it. She went home and spoke to somebody
Speaker 1: and it said, don't use it. Yeah, I can't post
Speaker 1: it up. YadA, I don't. I don't appreciate what you
Speaker 1: guys did. You guys, you guys conduct a bad show, YadA, YadA.
Speaker 1: Don't give us all these bad reviews. I'm gonna form
Speaker 1: potius to her, like, yo, right the show comes out,
Speaker 1: they're telling you bad show. Didn't come out yet, So
Speaker 1: how did they telling you bad review? Well, she's seen
Speaker 1: bad reviews as far as like, she feels like, we
Speaker 1: don't conduct a good show, we don't ask good questions
Speaker 1: and things like that. When we already did the whole
Speaker 1: interview and she told us that we had to shad
Speaker 1: a good time, she signed a release. No, no, just
Speaker 1: kid came side. At least right now, let listen be great,
Speaker 1: you guys says it's good. Yeah, yeah, listen, hold on,
Speaker 1: you know that's real, and it happened sometimes, Like I said,
Speaker 1: happens all the time. It happens all the time, and
Speaker 1: women starting faith and she would staring chair herself with me.
Speaker 1: So I was even though that question I asked it
Speaker 1: was a little distasteful. She knew it was a show,
Speaker 1: but she was surprised that I wasn't more jonesy with her.
Speaker 1: But I feel like that was Stevie j more so.
Speaker 1: So you don't know, and you would not have know.
Speaker 1: Would I have known if it was an outside influence
Speaker 1: that after the fact said fall backccess, don't let that
Speaker 1: interview come out. I love you, man, this is a
Speaker 1: great contact. Man. I can't, I can't, I can't be
Speaker 1: asked the boy question was great, a little full though.
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