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Speaker 1: Welcome to Drink Champs, the production of The Black Effect

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Speaker 1: and I Heart Radio and his drinks motherfucking podcast. He's

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Speaker 1: a legendary queen's rapper, He's is your boy in No

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Speaker 1: r E. He's a Miami hip hop pioneer. What Up

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Speaker 1: is d J e Fn? Together they drink it up

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Speaker 1: with some of the biggest players in the most professional,

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Speaker 1: unprofessional podcast and yet number one sorts for drunk fast drinks.

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Speaker 1: Motherfucking days. New year' z, that's time for Drink Champs.

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Speaker 1: Trick up, motherfucking up? Would it good? Be holes? Would

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Speaker 1: it be? It's your boy? What Up is d j

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Speaker 1: e FN and his drink chest motherfucker? Yea? And right

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Speaker 1: out When when we started the show, the FN, we said,

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Speaker 1: we wanted you know this, this radio stations, and there's

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Speaker 1: other podcasts for you know, up and coming and new people.

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Speaker 1: But we wanted to interview legends, We wanted to interview

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Speaker 1: season people, wanted to interview people who have this luxurious

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Speaker 1: long list of stories and just of being a part

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Speaker 1: of the game. This is not only not only a hero,

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Speaker 1: but a hometown hero. She has dominated music. Then went

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Speaker 1: on and you know dominated radio, which was a very

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Speaker 1: hard Field, not only for a black woman before a

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Speaker 1: woman period at that time. Then you know, now she

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Speaker 1: got a podcast too and everything. I think she's an

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Speaker 1: episode forget but forget what everisode, But I've been I'm

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Speaker 1: checking it out. She got rolled down with them. I

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Speaker 1: did not know this, but um, in case you don't

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Speaker 1: know who we talked about, we talking about the motherfucker

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Speaker 1: lest just miss motherfucking Joe. So so I was wondering

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Speaker 1: who you're talking about. So, um, you know, because what's

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Speaker 1: been going on? What's been going on with you? Later?

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Speaker 1: So first off, I broadcast Okay, wow, okay, so this

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Speaker 1: is just like it's gonna suck me up juice, that's

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Speaker 1: what That's what it is. Okay, ingenious, gen Okay, now

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Speaker 1: now snoop got in the glow. This is not in

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Speaker 1: the glow. No, no, no, this is something different out

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Speaker 1: the glow. Okay. And and it's infused with lavender. It

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Speaker 1: looks sexy. It looks sexy. Yeah, thank you, well, thank so.

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Speaker 1: Let's let's just take it right from the beginning, right um,

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Speaker 1: because at first it was artists. It's about being an artist, right,

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Speaker 1: so um, and listen for people that don't know a

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Speaker 1: story of Projects is one of the craziest places in

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Speaker 1: the world, not just queens in the world. So take

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Speaker 1: us from there, coming from a story. So, I was,

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Speaker 1: you know, always singing in the house, always trying to

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Speaker 1: do talent shows and things like that, and um, and

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Speaker 1: eventually I wanted to go into high school for it,

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Speaker 1: taking it seriously, and then I went to Syracuse University

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Speaker 1: for it. It became he went to art schools like

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Speaker 1: to high school. Yeah, I went to the Fame school

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Speaker 1: music and amazing experience, but well they taught you was

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Speaker 1: really classical singing. And I always wanted to be R

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Speaker 1: and B. So when I graduated, I met ron g

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Speaker 1: h and so I started singing on his mixtapes and

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Speaker 1: at that time I started hearing Yeah it was nobody

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Speaker 1: was doing it. It was a smooth out the beginning

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Speaker 1: of hip hop R and B. Yeah. Wow. So let

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Speaker 1: me ask you something because I just um seen Trick Daddy, right,

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Speaker 1: Trick Daddy is going viral because Rick Daddy said, Beyonce

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Speaker 1: Cas sang all right, and it reminded me of something

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Speaker 1: I thought. I heard you say. I thought, yeah, we know.

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Speaker 1: I'm so sorry. IM okay, So here's my things technically

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Speaker 1: maybe Mary's not the most perfect singer. Who the fuck

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Speaker 1: is my issue with Mary? Because everybody knows that I've

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Speaker 1: had an issue, and I'm realizing now it probably shouldn't

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Speaker 1: be Mary as much as it should be towards Diddy,

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Speaker 1: because when Ron and I started this whole mix tape singing,

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Speaker 1: that was how we got our deal with steps On Records.

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Speaker 1: The whole album was that singing on hip so people

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Speaker 1: understand who don't know, singing on hip hop beats, right,

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Speaker 1: which was the normal? The normal at the time. Mary's

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Speaker 1: first album, you remember, was all like jazzy songs, a

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Speaker 1: like a mix tape. Diddy had gone to Ron and

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Speaker 1: asked Ron to do my stuff for Mary. Ron said, know,

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Speaker 1: because Jones's Miss Jones. It's my artist, and that's the

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Speaker 1: style I'm using for her. Did he went behind his

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Speaker 1: So he took the whole style. And because you know,

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Speaker 1: and they're like, you need to get your recognition and

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Speaker 1: get flowers for that. Yeah, it didn't work out music.

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Speaker 1: You flipped it and did it in radio, but that

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Speaker 1: so was it in ther time like that, Um, you

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Speaker 1: We're not playing not playing today. I'm excited to have

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Speaker 1: you here, by the way, so you know, so to

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Speaker 1: be here, has it ever been somebody who like you?

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Speaker 1: You reached out, you said, yo, let me get it

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Speaker 1: whatever reason, and then they came back to the rail

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Speaker 1: station and either needed a favor or how was that?

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Speaker 1: Or how about someone I slept with and wanted a feature?

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Speaker 1: And like, okay, okay, so I would have slept with

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Speaker 1: him anyway, just to be clear. He wasn't like an

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Speaker 1: asshole like that stuff, you know. But but to his defense,

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Speaker 1: I was never like considered a hot R and B artist,

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Speaker 1: and at that time they wanted heat matches heat. So

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Speaker 1: and I'm like, am I not want it hard enough? Like?

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Speaker 1: What can I do it? When you would come so

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Speaker 1: later on when I'm like rocking in radio, I was kind,

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Speaker 1: but it wasn't just a bust of rhym just coming

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Speaker 1: up to NORML. No, he's not. We'll get back and

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Speaker 1: let bust. You know, win Buster can come bust. You

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Speaker 1: probably didn't know that I love himself, but yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: didn't hear about that, but okay, moving just didn't know.

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Speaker 1: I told you that's like to take a shot. Shot

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Speaker 1: on the shot and hold on, I got it's my dream. Okay,

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Speaker 1: that's what that's I need to shot glass. No, I'm

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Speaker 1: saying her bottle. I want to just Yeah, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: I'm watermelon. I'm gonna do a watermelon. I'm gonna do

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Speaker 1: another thing is not another thing? Is? I think The

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Speaker 1: first time I ever heard Stephen A. Smith on the

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Speaker 1: so so he was writing for the Philadelphia Paper and No.

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Speaker 1: somebody that could bring a different and he's very opinionated.

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Speaker 1: If you haven't known that, A so was Stephen at

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Speaker 1: But it was great because he could talk about everything.

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Speaker 1: I'm not surprised and I'm happy for him. He and

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Speaker 1: I interviewed Rick James the day before he died. Wow

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Speaker 1: But we were like and I said, you realize that

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Speaker 1: done Rick James's final interview, and I never went back

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Speaker 1: our cod Life goes on, People move on, you know,

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Speaker 1: people die every day. Yeah, to talk to James, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: When Nas and um when when Summer Jam, when jay

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Speaker 1: Z did whatever he I can't remember because perfectly and

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Speaker 1: Mike Cousin? You have some good No, just that I

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Speaker 1: or drug dealer's girlfriend. Sometimes I wonder it might not

424
00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:13,760
Speaker 1: have been such a bad thing too, so I didn't

425
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:18,560
Speaker 1: tell school. Next week. It's like, um, this whole big

426
00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:22,240
Speaker 1: takeover of publicity starring Buck Wild, Okay, let me ask

427
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:25,280
Speaker 1: you something to do. What's starring at other stations prior

428
00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:27,560
Speaker 1: to that? No, they was this is their first gig.

429
00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:31,240
Speaker 1: They took over the morning they did, and with the

430
00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:33,800
Speaker 1: help of the Hot ninety seven engine. But what was

431
00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:35,760
Speaker 1: It had to be one episode that stood out? What

432
00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,359
Speaker 1: was the episode that stood up that that made them

433
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:41,600
Speaker 1: say let's give them the job? No, there was no episode.

434
00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:47,440
Speaker 1: Itship she built right, you know how if you if

435
00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:50,000
Speaker 1: I get if I get into you and you feel

436
00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:53,200
Speaker 1: me as a person and you know I'm talented, the

437
00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:56,119
Speaker 1: rest is just not a sign of paperwork. We'll figure

438
00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:58,560
Speaker 1: the rest of the ship out, and why not give

439
00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:00,560
Speaker 1: a chance, you know what I mean? And I think

440
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:04,359
Speaker 1: Tracy wanted to take Hot ninety seven maybe climax. She

441
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:07,280
Speaker 1: knew she needed to do something different to get the

442
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:10,240
Speaker 1: white boy listeners. No disrespect, love our white boys. But

443
00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:14,800
Speaker 1: she wanted to hit Z one hundred people because Night seven,

444
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:16,439
Speaker 1: even though it was a pop station or chirman as

445
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:19,120
Speaker 1: I call it, it was really hip hop in the hood.

446
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,960
Speaker 1: The only way to be taken seriously and crap through

447
00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:29,200
Speaker 1: was to get some of those good listeners. And that

448
00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:32,680
Speaker 1: is what starring Buck Wilde were able to do. And

449
00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:35,200
Speaker 1: I say, now, I was the feature in MS. Jones.

450
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:37,119
Speaker 1: I did my little straight man stuff, but it was

451
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:41,640
Speaker 1: his content and his perspective on the content, his spin

452
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:51,280
Speaker 1: on it. So let me, Actually, you said you didn't

453
00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:52,960
Speaker 1: have anything to do with the Liyah thing, but what

454
00:26:53,240 --> 00:27:00,560
Speaker 1: how was that atmosphere like what we described all? Jay

455
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:02,360
Speaker 1: Z says a part of it in his round. He says,

456
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 1: stars mag I won't grant him an interview, but he

457
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:09,200
Speaker 1: did do so I did something something, um so any

458
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:13,960
Speaker 1: of you remix with Aaliyah And what happened was Starbuck

459
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:17,280
Speaker 1: while Elia did a car crash. She died in a

460
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:19,879
Speaker 1: plane crash, and then you know that Rocks. None of

461
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:23,240
Speaker 1: us had ever died like that was like the first Yeah,

462
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:25,720
Speaker 1: that was really the first peers, you know what I mean.

463
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:34,120
Speaker 1: It was tragic and of a sudden and shot let's

464
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:40,159
Speaker 1: but basically, um, star and did a skin. It was

465
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:45,000
Speaker 1: more the writer, the writer in the room mentally comedy,

466
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:48,399
Speaker 1: I'm assuming the writer in the this is this is

467
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:50,720
Speaker 1: the definition of too soon. You know how many people

468
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 1: say to this is how the definition got invented. Was

469
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:57,679
Speaker 1: everyone was like, you know, forget it. Even comedians like comedy.

470
00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:01,520
Speaker 1: Back then, I didn't believe into Yeah, well, I don't

471
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:03,720
Speaker 1: tell he doesn't believe me. Too soon. Still to this day,

472
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 1: they'll they'll make a joke about another comedian while he's

473
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,359
Speaker 1: going through it, like you know, Kevin Harderson great example

474
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 1: of that. He was going through it with his wife,

475
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:15,480
Speaker 1: and a lot of the comedians still still gave it

476
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 1: to him. You know, then you have so because you

477
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 1: have to stay true to what it is. So I

478
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:22,320
Speaker 1: think that was that was the meaning that too soon

479
00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:25,919
Speaker 1: for me? And so they were. I kept seeing them

480
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:30,880
Speaker 1: running in and out. We watched you watch this drink

481
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 1: Chance look Ahead. There was a lot of going in

482
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 1: and out of the studio that morning, and I knew

483
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:44,480
Speaker 1: they were up to something. BA hasn't Dame Das called

484
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 1: up That was later. That was later this morning when

485
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 1: the song was about to be playing. There was a

486
00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 1: lot of in and out of the studio starting to

487
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 1: go out the studio that much like that, he stayed in.

488
00:28:57,680 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 1: He used to always stay there and Reese, who was

489
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 1: of our writers at the time, he would come in

490
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:05,240
Speaker 1: with whatever he had. This morning, there was the both

491
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 1: of them, So I knew something was coming, but I

492
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 1: didn't know. But I'm not stupid, so I figured what

493
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,120
Speaker 1: it would be. You don't even understand what they're about

494
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 1: to play. You have no idea at And how soon

495
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 1: was it though? This was the next day. I think

496
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 1: this was Monday, something like that, like she passed on Monday,

497
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 1: going in and out, and I'm knowing, I'm sensing, and

498
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 1: then I hear a little bit of and I'm like,

499
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:34,560
Speaker 1: don't do it. I told Star, don't do this is

500
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 1: what he says. MS. Jones knew. I knew you was

501
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 1: up to something involving that, but I know the lengths

502
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 1: that you was gonna go nigger because you wouldn't know.

503
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 1: I can't be a part of that. Even if I

504
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:48,240
Speaker 1: wanted to ride with you, I can't. I can't do it.

505
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:52,640
Speaker 1: So the next it was like we're halfway through the show,

506
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:55,479
Speaker 1: maybe close to the end. They play the sound effects

507
00:29:55,600 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 1: of a car crashing and a female voice screaming like

508
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 1: as if it's a shrill. It's like a shrill of

509
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 1: someone perishing by fire, Like do you want like, yeah, no,

510
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:14,040
Speaker 1: that's the plane. But then did you hear that the voice?

511
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 1: It was like a don't remember? Okay, and so um

512
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,440
Speaker 1: and so you're thinking real quick in the moment, and

513
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 1: the MIC's are on, what do I do? What do I?

514
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:28,720
Speaker 1: There's like so I said, I separated myself from the situation.

515
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:33,800
Speaker 1: I did, and so I didn't appreciate it, and the

516
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:38,760
Speaker 1: phones got turned out, and I walked off the show

517
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:41,720
Speaker 1: and Tracy came in. I don't think she knew quite

518
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 1: the impact of what was going to happen or what

519
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 1: was happening. But within thirty minutes, I think like sev

520
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaker 1: of the Hot ninety seven advertisers had called and pulled out.

521
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:56,000
Speaker 1: She's on one phone and Judy is on another phone,

522
00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:58,960
Speaker 1: and they're trying to stop the bleeding, and and and

523
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 1: and so Tracy called me in her office at some

524
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 1: point and like broke me down, and I was like,

525
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 1: you know, I don't care what happens. You don't leave

526
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 1: your co host and you don't walk off the show.

527
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 1: I'm crying. Thank you for anticipating um so um so.

528
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 1: It was like mixed emotions because first she was telling

529
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 1: me you're fucked up basically, not those exact words, for

530
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 1: leaving Stars and letting him take all the heat. But

531
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 1: I'm like, bit, I didn't even think that. That wasn't

532
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 1: my that wasn't one of my skates. But I got it.

533
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 1: And so again here's Shawnzy going against the grain of

534
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 1: hot ninety seven. Three hours later, after I'm home, she

535
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 1: calls and goes, I'm suspending Star. The people want you.

536
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 1: I need you to fill in and like, help clean

537
00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 1: this up, make this go away. Let me Actually, that's

538
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 1: another example of actually, now when you come in that day,

539
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 1: when you fill in, do you apologize on his behalf?

540
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 1: I did not. They did not want me to read

541
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 1: to even talk about. Right, was this the stupidest thing

542
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:18,320
Speaker 1: everyone's mind. Everybody's waiting and having the person to get

543
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 1: to the moon. They want to see, what the hell

544
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 1: your first words is exactly? But we're trained puppies that

545
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 1: whenever catastrophe happened tsunami, you're told to not listen. Now

546
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 1: tsami after that, big up dj N because dj MB

547
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 1: had to let the people know that that Jonesy was

548
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 1: not in the building. It was not. This is two

549
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:42,880
Speaker 1: controversy situations. There's a lot listen to and there's something

550
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 1: that you don't even know that fool kings in the building,

551
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 1: go do it um. And so at that point I

552
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 1: come in and I start doing the show, and I'm

553
00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:58,880
Speaker 1: trying to, you know, just do the show, and I

554
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:01,239
Speaker 1: can't talk about anything because they're trying to work out

555
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 1: getting the advertisers back and stuff. Two airplanes decide to

556
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 1: fly into twins towers. Now the pressure is intent to

557
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 1: night seven. Don't know what to do about start They

558
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 1: don't know where the direction that they need to take

559
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:22,960
Speaker 1: to stop the bleeding and make this go away. The

560
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 1: two planes took that ship away because when eleven happened. Sorry, Leah,

561
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 1: this is the leading story. Yeah, it's like erased everything.

562
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 1: It's like start off. So be it not for I

563
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 1: don't even know, like be it not for nine eleven?

564
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 1: Start might there might have been a different outcome right now,

565
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 1: still not be so Startom had nothing to do with that.

566
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 1: Oh no, that was all It's not me, but it

567
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 1: was my it was my on my watch. Yeah, that

568
00:33:55,880 --> 00:34:03,600
Speaker 1: was years later, and and and and so here's the thing. Yeah,

569
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:09,800
Speaker 1: nine eleven happened. We we we everybody, the America shifts gears.

570
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 1: The focus is no longer, no longer racist, right exactly,

571
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:21,479
Speaker 1: although they've forgotten about this gorgeous, smart, intelligent black girl

572
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:24,880
Speaker 1: that died in a plane crash that just got tossed away.

573
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:28,719
Speaker 1: Now we're all one, come out and help, you know.

574
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:32,960
Speaker 1: And so you know when that happened, Start got an

575
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:35,400
Speaker 1: opportunity to be responsible and do the right thing. He got,

576
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 1: he got like a second chance. But here's what's funny

577
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:39,920
Speaker 1: about that, because didn't jay Z drop an album on

578
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:44,239
Speaker 1: nine eleven as well? Did he? Yeah? Yeah, on that

579
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:47,719
Speaker 1: on that one album was it Blueprint on that day

580
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 1: of nine eleven, So you would think it would like

581
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:53,880
Speaker 1: even it out offset, Yeah, off set it to a

582
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 1: little I'm asking, I'm just I wasn't even a wall.

583
00:34:56,800 --> 00:35:00,279
Speaker 1: Anything's gonna offset nine eleven. Offset, you know, like the

584
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:03,800
Speaker 1: bounce of of of Aaliyah's disrespect because once again it

585
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 1: was disrespectful to a dead person like that album had

586
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 1: to already be in the right. You have two years.

587
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 1: You couldn't go back in a change the line, PolyGram

588
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 1: or Polly Door or whoever, it is, that's printing. So

589
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:23,640
Speaker 1: that was that honestly, was just probably the stars lining up.

590
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:27,799
Speaker 1: So let me bouncing around. Did Jay and Dame ever

591
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:31,279
Speaker 1: take that person with you when the lah? Never? I

592
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:35,279
Speaker 1: mean so they were my after that, they were my champions.

593
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 1: They're like Dame showed up to my birthday party? Are line? Yeah,

594
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:41,759
Speaker 1: I was on the good side and he they've they've

595
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:44,239
Speaker 1: always they put me in their movies. That of a

596
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:50,399
Speaker 1: Dynasty for Soldiers, thank you st right, Yeah, we're Kevin

597
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 1: Hart before Kevin Hart was like really really so you know?

598
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 1: And so I didn't Sometimes should be happening so fast,

599
00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:01,840
Speaker 1: you don't know the right thing to And I just

600
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:04,759
Speaker 1: did what I knew. I couldn't be a part of

601
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 1: I knew what that outcome would look like if I

602
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 1: had stayed in that chair. So I bounced. I abandoned things.

603
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 1: I have abandonment issues, so I leave when I don't.

604
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:17,719
Speaker 1: Let's give on another shot. Didn't want to about when

605
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 1: do you win to try to kill you? Okay, you

606
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 1: gotta finish it, so now you can keep playing. You're

607
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 1: saying something. I have some friends from um, you know

608
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 1: Queen's flip. Yes that I work with that came down here,

609
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 1: but I want to shout out absolutely, yeah, no problem good.

610
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 1: This is DJ G Money. He does the Queen's flip

611
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 1: me on his back to bring me back this whole time.

612
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:57,279
Speaker 1: Come on five, we're gonna bring you in at the end,

613
00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:58,719
Speaker 1: but we're gonna give us, give us five now, come on,

614
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:06,839
Speaker 1: come on, come on one bro. Yeah, man down here,

615
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:10,800
Speaker 1: this family his family. I just have to show some

616
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 1: part family. Yeah, you're gonna bring you in that there. Yeah, yeah,

617
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 1: that's like. I like this. I like this. I'm like,

618
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 1: what were you talking about, tsunamy. You want to know

619
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 1: what you're talking about? So I heard something about this

620
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 1: and that's when you we're gonna talk about when you

621
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 1: win trying to get a killer. Okay, So there's another

622
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:35,479
Speaker 1: parody song situation. Yes, what's with morning shows and parody songs.

623
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:38,879
Speaker 1: It's a big deal and radio sometimes they've been doing

624
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:42,439
Speaker 1: that right right, So remember now we're trying to get

625
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 1: that Z one hundred. So that's what it is, trying

626
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 1: to compete with that and get that audience. So she

627
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 1: still do these songs parodies to these days if you

628
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 1: look at right. But I mean we're talking about like

629
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 1: stuff just like you know everyone is pleasing to her

630
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 1: wreck right now. Everybody don't want to fit nobody right now.

631
00:37:57,719 --> 00:37:59,880
Speaker 1: It's called flip in a minute, you know, right, So

632
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 1: go back to Ratchet, your mother, your father, kids, and

633
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 1: going back to Tai. What happens to described to people,

634
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:12,239
Speaker 1: this was like the world's worst tsunami that at least

635
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 1: we picked you mad. People died, people died. So this

636
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:18,320
Speaker 1: song comes out, and what is the song? Do you

637
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:22,799
Speaker 1: remember how the song? At this point, so Starr had

638
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:26,800
Speaker 1: fired me, I'm in Philly. I'm doing great in Philly.

639
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:28,719
Speaker 1: Big shout out to Philly health. When you shall Star

640
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:32,759
Speaker 1: fired you now Star? No, no, no, it was Star okay,

641
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 1: So after you do know it was the least it

642
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:43,440
Speaker 1: was so so after that he rebounded. Ratings went back

643
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 1: up after not allowed how much time is this now? What?

644
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 1: I don't know what year the leads it was. It

645
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:51,760
Speaker 1: was close enough that you knew he was still salty

646
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:53,799
Speaker 1: about me abandoning him on the show. So he knew

647
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 1: when he came back he was gonna fire you evention

648
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:58,759
Speaker 1: probably And then when he fired before he fired me,

649
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:01,240
Speaker 1: Tracy had already come to me with a new contract.

650
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 1: We had already agreed to on the amount. I was good,

651
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 1: but under that show or yeah under that show, No,

652
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 1: under that show. And she knew I had just bought

653
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 1: a new apartment. I had just gotten. I bought a

654
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:15,760
Speaker 1: new apartment on one sixteenth at Lennox. That apartment building

655
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 1: it called I think it's a Renaissance, no the whatever

656
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:20,279
Speaker 1: it is just on the Corta Lenox and won sixth team.

657
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:22,719
Speaker 1: I had just gotten it, and I was so excited.

658
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 1: She knew this ain't the time to be firing a nigga,

659
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:31,319
Speaker 1: but Star I renegotiated and maybe part of the new

660
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:33,800
Speaker 1: terms where that he got to decide who would be

661
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 1: on his show, because going in, she put me on

662
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 1: the show because she knew starring buck Wild needed someone familiar,

663
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:43,759
Speaker 1: that had been there, someone that could actually read and

664
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:47,440
Speaker 1: articulate and has a relationship with artists. Those the background

665
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 1: of the artist starring buck Wild were anti artists. For

666
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:52,719
Speaker 1: those of you that don't know, they didn't know. They

667
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 1: might have known a lot, but the artist didn't necessarily

668
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:57,719
Speaker 1: funk with that. The good thing about Jonesie is that

669
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:04,800
Speaker 1: everybody loves Jonesie to make some molay to that. So

670
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 1: I was there. I served the purpose after that Aliat thing.

671
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 1: My purpose didn't much matter because he rebounded and then

672
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 1: renegotiated with him, and then she said started on once,

673
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 1: you wouldn't show anymore. I said, you're my boys. I'm

674
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:23,359
Speaker 1: not working for Star. She's like, yeah, well, but meet

675
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:26,359
Speaker 1: with him, talk to him, you know, just make him think.

676
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:28,319
Speaker 1: Do whatever you have to do. It is what she said,

677
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 1: do whatever you have to do to remain a part

678
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 1: of that show. I was in Atlantic City the next weekend.

679
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 1: I came home early. Me and my girlfriend Shire recent

680
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:38,799
Speaker 1: changing faces. Do you mind if I stroke you are

681
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 1: so we're not in Atlantic say, I'm like, bitch, we

682
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:43,480
Speaker 1: gotta go home because I gotta kiss up the Star.

683
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 1: I pulled up to his building. He comes out. He's like, yeah,

684
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:49,319
Speaker 1: it's not me, it's the other guys on the show.

685
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:53,399
Speaker 1: They don't think that you're loyal. They don't want you around. Yeah.

686
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:56,920
Speaker 1: So basically, he doesn't give me my job back, and

687
00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 1: I'm like jobless with this new apartment and arleum, and

688
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:04,280
Speaker 1: I don't know what I'm going to do. Wendy gets worried.

689
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:06,359
Speaker 1: Everyone got worried. The Stop is gonna fire me Before

690
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:11,400
Speaker 1: I did, Wendy calls now at that point, Kevin her

691
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:15,360
Speaker 1: husband or her ex husband now it was called the Shots.

692
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:18,240
Speaker 1: He did not want me and Wendy to remain friends

693
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:21,359
Speaker 1: because he always thought I was a threat. So she's

694
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:25,319
Speaker 1: whispering on the phone, Jumps, I know you just got

695
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 1: let go, and I know you need a job. Call

696
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 1: this person and that person in Philly. Tell them that

697
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:35,279
Speaker 1: Wendy told you to call. And I wound up. Yeah,

698
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 1: so that's why I say, despite them trying to have

699
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 1: me murdered, I can't be but so mad because but

700
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:49,920
Speaker 1: so that's what before. So Leanna get back to the

701
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 1: mid Okay to the murder A lot of ship because

702
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:03,279
Speaker 1: songs like murder, I said, soul. It was like what

703
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 1: a lot of people are experienced right now. There's an

704
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:09,320
Speaker 1: a hate bill that went around and so Tracey. So

705
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 1: so it's kind of out of order. So Wendy did that.

706
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:19,120
Speaker 1: I went to Philly. I'm in Philly. Rocket Star is

707
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 1: calling my phone, harassing me on my voicemail. Yeah, you

708
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:25,320
Speaker 1: think you're doing something down in Philly, but I'm about

709
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:27,719
Speaker 1: to come for you. They're about to have me syndicated

710
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:29,360
Speaker 1: in Philly, and I'm gonna take you down. He's on

711
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 1: my voice boil saying these things. Yeah, that's how people

712
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:40,319
Speaker 1: was back and a basic yourself to jail back then.

713
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:44,799
Speaker 1: So eventually I do wind up coming back to New York.

714
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 1: And when I come back to New York, Tracy again,

715
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:52,239
Speaker 1: she's hired. Do you remember Opi and Anthony. She hired

716
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 1: their producer, Rick Delgado. So if you know Opie and Anthony,

717
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 1: you know that star Buck wall ain't got shipped on

718
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:02,320
Speaker 1: the antics that those two they had, for example, a

719
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 1: couple having sex, and I think it was the same

720
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:07,920
Speaker 1: somebody who yeah, one of the cathedrals. I don't even

721
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 1: know the name of the continue, but yeah, he's so bad,

722
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 1: and so she hired so bad and so he was.

723
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:20,359
Speaker 1: Now my come back to New York, Jones is coming back.

724
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 1: I've never met this man. She hired him to be

725
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:27,640
Speaker 1: my producer. Now, I am nine months pregnant with Jalen.

726
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:35,320
Speaker 1: Big shout out to Jaylen my son. Okay, okay, And

727
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:39,759
Speaker 1: I'm pregnant and so I'm grateful to have a job.

728
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 1: And um so I'm home because I had just had him.

729
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 1: In December, tsunami happened, if we call a tsunami. Sorry me,

730
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 1: Envy and those of and like January February, I was

731
00:43:57,280 --> 00:44:02,400
Speaker 1: home nursing him. But what Hot nineties seven did to

732
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:05,200
Speaker 1: accommodate me at that time because they wanted me really

733
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:07,759
Speaker 1: bad to come back because now starts across the street

734
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 1: at Power one on five and what's it called the

735
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 1: MS Jones Show or Jones Spirit? It was called MS

736
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:15,239
Speaker 1: Jones Miss Jones in the Morning. Yeah, So when I

737
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 1: told them that I needed, I'll do your show, but

738
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 1: I can't be coming all the way like come on.

739
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:25,279
Speaker 1: Like they set up what was now Zoom ten years

740
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 1: ahead of time. They paid like ten tho dollars a

741
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:33,760
Speaker 1: month for me to have a TV at home where

742
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:36,919
Speaker 1: I could nurse Jalen and I could see DJ Envy

743
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:42,359
Speaker 1: Miss Info. Yeah, this is before the technology was even

744
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:48,239
Speaker 1: like accessible to people. And so Rick Delgado came up

745
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:52,480
Speaker 1: with this tsunami song thing, and so he's like through

746
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 1: the TV, he's telling me, I came up with this idea.

747
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna play it whatever whatever. He plays it. And

748
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 1: this is sad to say, how asleep at the wheel

749
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:03,920
Speaker 1: people be, but he played it in the six o'clock

750
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 1: hour six o'clock make doesn't really give a fuck because

751
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:10,240
Speaker 1: they're either getting off work or still sleepy and getting

752
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:22,279
Speaker 1: to work ahead. And so Dr Jeff, who you know

753
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:24,440
Speaker 1: from Love and Hip Hop, but he was on my

754
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 1: show first. He came in at eight o'clock. Yeah, he

755
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:29,759
Speaker 1: came in at eight o'clock every whatever morning that was.

756
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 1: And we're talking about the tsunami song because this info

757
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 1: was like she was like, I shouldn't have done that.

758
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 1: I'm telling y'all. She really was the adult in the room.

759
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 1: And so we're like, alright, but whatever, and I'm not there.

760
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 1: I'm seeing through a TV and I'm like, the show

761
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 1: gotta keep going. They did it, but we gotta keep going.

762
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:48,479
Speaker 1: Dr Jeff comes in and goes, what are y'all talking about?

763
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 1: Can I hear the song? We played the song in

764
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 1: the eight o'clock hour, which we find out later on

765
00:45:56,640 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 1: is the most listen to hour, So him asking, what

766
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:02,480
Speaker 1: are you talking about? Let me hear it is? This

767
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:07,239
Speaker 1: is on the air. Oh yeah, so Rick plays that motherfucker.

768
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:11,720
Speaker 1: And when I tell you they come to salespeople come running.

769
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:13,880
Speaker 1: I'm watching through the TV and I'm saying, I'm like,

770
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:17,280
Speaker 1: what's going on? And I'm home but I'm still present.

771
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 1: It's like, I know it's going down like it was

772
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:27,320
Speaker 1: different because I couldn't be there physically to manage it.

773
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:30,840
Speaker 1: I'm home now, I'm a mom, I'm soft and pink.

774
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 1: I'm not with the ships. But I got with a

775
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:37,080
Speaker 1: real quick because the boss then was Barry Mayo. Tracy

776
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:40,240
Speaker 1: is now gone, Barry Mayo brought me back. He drives

777
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 1: from New York all the way to will and borrow

778
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:46,839
Speaker 1: big shout out to your partner, Capone, Yeah, exactly, hang

779
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:51,880
Speaker 1: out a little and he says, we got a problem.

780
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:56,479
Speaker 1: So I'm like, what's going on? He's like, the world

781
00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:58,400
Speaker 1: is mad and they want your head on the platter.

782
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 1: And I'm like, why my head? Well, you played the song, bitch,

783
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:07,040
Speaker 1: I'm here. How am I playing the song? So what

784
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:11,279
Speaker 1: the play was? I believe he was in trouble because

785
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:15,759
Speaker 1: now he is cooperate. Who approved that he's the he's

786
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 1: the GM okay okay, right? And and earlier that morning

787
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:23,439
Speaker 1: came out later on big shout out to DJ Envy

788
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:26,719
Speaker 1: and research that he came into the studio after it

789
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 1: was played and was like, y'all, it's sick motherfucker's but

790
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:35,720
Speaker 1: that was funny as how Allegedly, but Tsunami didn't go away.

791
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:38,280
Speaker 1: It didn't go over well and it did not go away.

792
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:42,120
Speaker 1: And so that was the a community at first, or

793
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:44,719
Speaker 1: this was just anybody who was just at first it

794
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 1: was everybody. Everybody was it was too sensitive, it was

795
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:54,920
Speaker 1: very it was wildly offensive, it was distasteful, it was shameful,

796
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:57,480
Speaker 1: and it was just not where we needed to be.

797
00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:00,520
Speaker 1: There was no need, like there's a ship we could

798
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:03,080
Speaker 1: have found that was funny. But again you're dealing with

799
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:07,960
Speaker 1: Opi and Anthony's producer. This is what they do, said

800
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 1: Anthony opening Anthony's producer Rick Delgado, op Opie Opie Opie

801
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:22,880
Speaker 1: and Anthony's producer, Rick Delgado. This is right up the

802
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 1: lane of the ship that they that they did. So

803
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:27,800
Speaker 1: he knew he was hired to get with the ships.

804
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 1: So now everyone's blaming me because now the phones are

805
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:39,319
Speaker 1: ringing of the average McDonald said, by and now I'm

806
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 1: going to power. See before they didn't have another station

807
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:48,640
Speaker 1: to go to when Aaliyah happened. Power wasn't it wasn't

808
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:52,920
Speaker 1: even invent uh what's the word, right, It wasn't created then.

809
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 1: So it's like, al right, take your money, by bitch,

810
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 1: where you're gonna put it now? There's another street and

811
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 1: guess what, they're open. They're willing to give you right

812
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:07,719
Speaker 1: and they just ate that ship up and stars on

813
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:12,480
Speaker 1: the radio going, oh, those tsunami and sensitive bastards down

814
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:15,200
Speaker 1: the block, bring your money here. Your money is good

815
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 1: with us. Will never insult your community. He was not

816
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:24,640
Speaker 1: apartment No, he was at power then. So he's highlighting it.

817
00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 1: He's like, remember remember what they said about you guys.

818
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:31,960
Speaker 1: Like he's just twisting, twisting, twisting it. And so now

819
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:35,680
Speaker 1: corporate at Hot on the seven has to make a decision.

820
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:39,319
Speaker 1: Now I'm newly back. I just came back like three

821
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:43,840
Speaker 1: months prior. And so they sent the lawyer. This is

822
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 1: what happens, boys and girls, when when you've gone too

823
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 1: far at your job. They got the white boys, the lawyers.

824
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 1: They came in overnight and they met secretly with everybody

825
00:49:55,640 --> 00:50:01,080
Speaker 1: on my show individually by themselves to get the story

826
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:06,239
Speaker 1: of what the funk happened. So me, this info is

827
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:08,319
Speaker 1: piste off. Like no one's talking to her because we're like, oh,

828
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:11,240
Speaker 1: fuck you, you're probably the one that told the agents

829
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:16,040
Speaker 1: to come and boycott us, envy and research her name,

830
00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:17,920
Speaker 1: miss Tag. But she was like, I call her research

831
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:21,480
Speaker 1: because he was like, our full research department, um are

832
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:25,879
Speaker 1: being interviewed. And the story was that miss Jones sung

833
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:31,080
Speaker 1: on the song and because it's her show, she's responsible

834
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 1: for this. So when the lawyers spoke to Envy and

835
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 1: and Research, they said, so they're asking the questions and

836
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:40,160
Speaker 1: they're like, yeah, Rick did the song. They're like, well,

837
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:43,120
Speaker 1: who's singing on the song because it says Rashwan this

838
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:46,640
Speaker 1: DJ Envy Tasha and we know that's miss Jones and

839
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 1: Rick made him do it. We know this all right,

840
00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:59,440
Speaker 1: but maybe he didn't. We didn't. Maybe he didn't, but

841
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:03,480
Speaker 1: but were voices from that show on that song. So

842
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:06,320
Speaker 1: when he said and the Jones, you know, she was

843
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:09,320
Speaker 1: singing too, and he was like, Envy and Research were like,

844
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:13,040
Speaker 1: the Jones she hasn't been here since November and they're like,

845
00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:15,719
Speaker 1: wait a minute, what how has she not? We hear

846
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:18,120
Speaker 1: her every day. So and he's like, we have the

847
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:21,320
Speaker 1: system where she logs on the morning and she pops

848
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:25,560
Speaker 1: up on the TV screen. They would have fucking fired

849
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:34,440
Speaker 1: the pregnant in research. She did too, because she confirmed it.

850
00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:38,160
Speaker 1: So the lawyers are now like, this ain't what Barry

851
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:43,960
Speaker 1: Mayo told us. Allegedly so I'm thinking and the people

852
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:46,640
Speaker 1: that love me are thinking that Barry Mayo, who was

853
00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:50,560
Speaker 1: the GM, was trying to sacrifice me for his letting.

854
00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:54,240
Speaker 1: That whole thing happened, and once I'm fired, he saved.

855
00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:57,640
Speaker 1: No one asked, right, and then you know, they don't

856
00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:01,920
Speaker 1: let you talk about it again. It's right. So I

857
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:06,400
Speaker 1: knew that what was about to happen, and well, Jalen's

858
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:08,520
Speaker 1: dad at the time told me he saw the play.

859
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 1: My sister is a real big producer in daytime television.

860
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:18,600
Speaker 1: She has like five Emmy Awards and like five hundred nominations.

861
00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:23,400
Speaker 1: She produces The View. Before that, she produced Nancy Grace

862
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:29,120
Speaker 1: and Johnny Cocker. She saw my name on the news

863
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:32,400
Speaker 1: because America knew about the tsunami song. It was bigger

864
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:34,880
Speaker 1: than New York, it was bigger than Nino Brown. It

865
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:38,959
Speaker 1: was international news and everybody hated the Stones because that's

866
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:42,040
Speaker 1: what they were being given as responsible for the tsunami song.

867
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:48,240
Speaker 1: And no, no, no, just tsunami. My sister called Nancy

868
00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:50,799
Speaker 1: Grace because she's like, I know TV, I know how

869
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:54,880
Speaker 1: narratives are painted if there's no one countering that, and

870
00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:58,160
Speaker 1: Hot ninety seven is not defended. My sister Nancy Grace said,

871
00:52:58,280 --> 00:53:01,440
Speaker 1: tell her to call Mel Sacks. He's the best attorney.

872
00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:03,839
Speaker 1: I hope she has the money, but he's the only

873
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:07,520
Speaker 1: one that can fix her. At that time, little Kim

874
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:10,840
Speaker 1: was in a little trouble and her attorney was Mel Sacks.

875
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:15,439
Speaker 1: I called Mel Sacks. He had already known. Really he's

876
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:18,960
Speaker 1: deceased since then. He's like, come to my office. I

877
00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:23,359
Speaker 1: need fifty grand and I will fix this. We get

878
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:26,399
Speaker 1: the fifty grand. We go to his office. Kim's coming

879
00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:28,480
Speaker 1: out of the elevator. I'm going in and he goes, oh,

880
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:30,400
Speaker 1: miss Jones and miss Jones because her real name is

881
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:33,160
Speaker 1: Kimbla Jones. I tell him what happened. He's like, I

882
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:36,799
Speaker 1: already know, I'm gonna I can fix this, and um,

883
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:40,120
Speaker 1: I just need your your money, and um, he said,

884
00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:42,560
Speaker 1: you know what's gonna happen. First of all, no one's

885
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:44,120
Speaker 1: gonna want to be on the on the hook for

886
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:47,960
Speaker 1: firing a black pregnant woman. But when they find out

887
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:52,520
Speaker 1: that you weren't even on the song, so we had

888
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:55,680
Speaker 1: to tell them that the Tasha that was on the

889
00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:59,680
Speaker 1: song singing wasn't me. Researched his first name, Miss Tasha

890
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:04,080
Speaker 1: I'm Tarsha, She's Tasha. She was the one that was singing,

891
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:06,120
Speaker 1: but she was singing it because Rick del Gotto told

892
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:08,600
Speaker 1: her Rick hadn't stepped up. Rick cut has put all

893
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:11,800
Speaker 1: this ship and smashed and then I was trying to

894
00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:13,839
Speaker 1: keep his job and I get it, but we all

895
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:15,600
Speaker 1: went through hell. So I think at that point, me

896
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:19,680
Speaker 1: is a white man, me Vy and and and and

897
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:22,600
Speaker 1: Tay and because she's on my reunion show, we bonded

898
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:26,719
Speaker 1: based on Nicholas was about to like cancel us for real,

899
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:29,640
Speaker 1: for real. And the Asians they don't stop, like when

900
00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:31,840
Speaker 1: they're passionate and they feel like you sucked them around,

901
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:35,400
Speaker 1: they don't stop. They don't stop, they don't stop. They

902
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 1: don't stop. So the lawyers, my lawyer Mel talked to

903
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:44,160
Speaker 1: John lou who was then like the Asian communities person,

904
00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:47,360
Speaker 1: he's the one that gears the mom and told that

905
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 1: him she's not the one hating and the seven realizes

906
00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:53,239
Speaker 1: that she's not the one, and they're willing to bring

907
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:55,879
Speaker 1: her back. But we know once they bring her back,

908
00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:58,520
Speaker 1: you were gonna have your people boycott, and at that

909
00:54:58,600 --> 00:55:01,839
Speaker 1: point they're gonna have to let her go. John Luis said,

910
00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:05,120
Speaker 1: I know it wasn't you. Alleged All this ship is alleged,

911
00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:08,400
Speaker 1: but it's true. I know it wasn't you. I appreciate

912
00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:11,560
Speaker 1: you even meeting with me. And if you go back

913
00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:13,560
Speaker 1: to work, you don't have to worry. You don't have

914
00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:15,520
Speaker 1: to work. We ain't gonna So I went back. It

915
00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:17,120
Speaker 1: was a Thursday. It was a very or Friday. It

916
00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:18,759
Speaker 1: was a very calculated move to have me come back

917
00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:20,560
Speaker 1: on a Friday. For those of you that don't know,

918
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:24,040
Speaker 1: Friday news cycle gets tossed in the garbage because who

919
00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:28,880
Speaker 1: reads a newspaper Friday on Saturday? So if something happens

920
00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:31,200
Speaker 1: on Friday, you won't your ways a strip club or

921
00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:33,600
Speaker 1: the car wash, at least getting the haircut. You ain't

922
00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:35,960
Speaker 1: reading the paper. So I got on air Friday. I

923
00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:39,200
Speaker 1: apologize in the early hour because you know, niggas ain't

924
00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:41,799
Speaker 1: listening at six o'clock hour. But it's tuna a thing.

925
00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:44,799
Speaker 1: And then when people started tuning in and hearing me back,

926
00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:48,680
Speaker 1: of course we got some phone calls. Oh, but the

927
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:51,800
Speaker 1: Asians didn't do their thing, and I was able to

928
00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:55,480
Speaker 1: live to see another day. And you all got into

929
00:55:55,560 --> 00:55:58,359
Speaker 1: it because we did, because I felt like I felt

930
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:00,480
Speaker 1: it was just so hypocritical of me. Excuse me the

931
00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:07,359
Speaker 1: same thing? What the fucking I so you got mad

932
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:12,040
Speaker 1: at her? I was, I'm so bitch. That was so

933
00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:19,840
Speaker 1: bad info. I'm sorry. I apologize. That's that's that's This

934
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:21,440
Speaker 1: is a part of our show is called quick Time

935
00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:25,040
Speaker 1: with Slime. We're just gonna actually quick question and you

936
00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:27,279
Speaker 1: you can pick one or the other, but if you

937
00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:30,160
Speaker 1: pick both, you gotta take a shot. It's it's okay,

938
00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:34,320
Speaker 1: it's it's okay, it's okay. Are you ready? What's the loss? Alright,

939
00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:38,600
Speaker 1: there's no losing. There's no losing losing, Okay. I don't

940
00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:39,719
Speaker 1: know where you go with this one. I think I

941
00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:41,239
Speaker 1: know you go with this one. No, I was on

942
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:44,800
Speaker 1: jay Z Okay, that was a dope. I don't know

943
00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:46,759
Speaker 1: this one. She was quicker than quick Time. I don't

944
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:51,400
Speaker 1: know this one. Carty or Nicky? Oh I did? I

945
00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:54,359
Speaker 1: wasn't really. I know you're gonna go with this one.

946
00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:59,640
Speaker 1: Mary Jay or Tony Braxton or Tony Braxton, Mary j

947
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:11,040
Speaker 1: or b Mary h very all right. Nineties hip hop

948
00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:15,520
Speaker 1: or two thousand nineties damn pretty pretty dispersal. Yeah, yeah,

949
00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:23,040
Speaker 1: nineties alright, Drake Champs or Joe Button Podcast, Drink Check Money.

950
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:38,720
Speaker 1: I can't lie this one, Flex or DJ Clue. Okay,

951
00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:43,640
Speaker 1: So here's the thing. There's a lot of ship in

952
00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:48,280
Speaker 1: the play right now with my career, and Flex is

953
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:53,320
Speaker 1: very powerful. The clue is like envies boy boy and

954
00:57:53,480 --> 00:58:01,560
Speaker 1: envy kind of cobo. Let's go to we's the bottom league.

955
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:06,600
Speaker 1: You know that's not a bad both, that's bad. They

956
00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:12,560
Speaker 1: both stood yeah, thank you, Right, they're differently, just so

957
00:58:12,680 --> 00:58:14,680
Speaker 1: you know, I would have went both. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

958
00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:22,840
Speaker 1: come on, I love both. All right, Hello, where were at?

959
00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:26,800
Speaker 1: All right? All right, this one? I think it's fairly easy.

960
00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:32,960
Speaker 1: Podcast on radio? Podcast? Alight? What you thought I was

961
00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:35,160
Speaker 1: gonna say radio? It definitely did. So here's the thing.

962
00:58:35,480 --> 00:58:38,560
Speaker 1: Radio gives a lot more money, faster, but they bind

963
00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:41,760
Speaker 1: you up like your runaway Slane. Right, what you're doing

964
00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:44,280
Speaker 1: on podcast? On it and you can be who you

965
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:46,480
Speaker 1: are facts and how you want to do it and

966
00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:50,760
Speaker 1: how you want to execute it. Okay, I think you're

967
00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:54,360
Speaker 1: taking a shot for the next couple of ones. All right,

968
00:58:55,200 --> 00:59:01,360
Speaker 1: til next on tupop. Okay, all right, I didn't I

969
00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:04,320
Speaker 1: didn't expect that. Yeah, you know, Boxy or a little kid.

970
00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:12,240
Speaker 1: I don't think neither one of them funk with me,

971
00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:15,960
Speaker 1: So can I say neither? I still gotta take a shot.

972
00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:21,200
Speaker 1: And I don't want to get it to that you

973
00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:25,840
Speaker 1: have I feel didn't even by the story you hold

974
00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:29,920
Speaker 1: on by the way. By the way, this is the

975
00:59:30,040 --> 00:59:35,280
Speaker 1: first neither we've ever had. Yeah, that's the first neither. No, really,

976
00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:37,560
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna I'm thinking I'm taking the extra shot

977
00:59:37,640 --> 00:59:40,400
Speaker 1: just because I only said I've never heard the one

978
00:59:40,440 --> 00:59:44,280
Speaker 1: to say neither. Yeah, that's the first neither. And I

979
00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:47,000
Speaker 1: have reason. It's just not someone we don't get into

980
00:59:47,040 --> 00:59:51,200
Speaker 1: the reason. I'm not just like this. So I lose

981
00:59:51,280 --> 01:00:05,000
Speaker 1: with neither. I've never heard neither with me. So okay,

982
01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:08,240
Speaker 1: this is I think it's fairly easy. But I could

983
01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:20,160
Speaker 1: be fooled. New Yorker Philly, who come poor. I respect

984
01:00:20,240 --> 01:00:25,760
Speaker 1: that because because of course I'm a New Yorker to

985
01:00:25,840 --> 01:00:28,680
Speaker 1: the core. Yes, I love the fact that I'm a

986
01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:33,520
Speaker 1: queen's girl. It's just something special about mother. I'm so

987
01:00:33,720 --> 01:00:35,919
Speaker 1: proud to be a queen's girl. But when New York

988
01:00:36,360 --> 01:00:39,520
Speaker 1: let me like like you let me have a threesome,

989
01:00:40,600 --> 01:00:45,720
Speaker 1: and I liked it, Okay, Sattle Filly gave me so

990
01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:50,479
Speaker 1: much love I'm like, what's her name on the shot? Okay, yeah,

991
01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:56,200
Speaker 1: you're watching you watch all right? This one. I don't.

992
01:00:56,520 --> 01:01:00,120
Speaker 1: I'm over the air, Queen O t for and you

993
01:01:00,240 --> 01:01:07,200
Speaker 1: like like U or Jail Scott Jelly from Philly. I

994
01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:23,320
Speaker 1: respect that, Eva, Missy to you do know you already

995
01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:35,760
Speaker 1: sapped you, Sorr. I need to just listen. I'm not

996
01:01:35,840 --> 01:01:37,960
Speaker 1: gonna lie. I need to get into neither because I've

997
01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:41,360
Speaker 1: never had to be, never had this. I respect that. Okay,

998
01:01:41,440 --> 01:01:44,640
Speaker 1: all right, all right, I like where you're going with you?

999
01:01:45,200 --> 01:01:52,360
Speaker 1: All right? Cool? So there a couple of left, Okay,

1000
01:01:55,880 --> 01:02:09,640
Speaker 1: Kanye for real beautiful, I'm definitely in the air with

1001
01:02:09,720 --> 01:02:21,120
Speaker 1: this one. Puff or dre mm hmm huff because even

1002
01:02:21,200 --> 01:02:25,400
Speaker 1: though you want to know why, because even though he

1003
01:02:25,560 --> 01:02:27,680
Speaker 1: drapped my whole ship made me have to work a

1004
01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:35,360
Speaker 1: lot harder, I had to work a lot harder and

1005
01:02:35,400 --> 01:02:38,720
Speaker 1: reinvent myself in radio. They'll become a success at the

1006
01:02:38,880 --> 01:02:42,040
Speaker 1: end of that success. Did he did a reality show

1007
01:02:42,120 --> 01:02:46,720
Speaker 1: with me for free? And that look? Even though the

1008
01:02:46,720 --> 01:02:49,560
Speaker 1: show didn't happen, that look created another look for me.

1009
01:02:49,680 --> 01:02:52,760
Speaker 1: So I feel like, did he gave me reparations? That's

1010
01:02:52,840 --> 01:02:55,360
Speaker 1: that's fine, that's fine, it makes it more any reason,

1011
01:02:55,440 --> 01:03:00,960
Speaker 1: not Drake reasoning. I just Dre was never very like

1012
01:03:02,320 --> 01:03:06,120
Speaker 1: warm like Diddy's personality was always like come on Jones,

1013
01:03:06,560 --> 01:03:10,760
Speaker 1: come on Joseph. How much he would call up and

1014
01:03:10,840 --> 01:03:14,440
Speaker 1: be like really with me like that very petty, He's

1015
01:03:14,480 --> 01:03:17,440
Speaker 1: very petty. The petty is real love. I'm here for

1016
01:03:17,520 --> 01:03:22,000
Speaker 1: the petty right? Oh? How did he seven? A power

1017
01:03:24,960 --> 01:03:28,640
Speaker 1: hot on seven? I would spect your maturity? I see like,

1018
01:03:32,520 --> 01:03:35,680
Speaker 1: I think it'll still be petty petty van Taro, but no, no, no, no,

1019
01:03:36,120 --> 01:03:40,800
Speaker 1: I'm petty white because petty white, you're not petty petty,

1020
01:03:40,800 --> 01:03:43,000
Speaker 1: petty petty. I could be petty patty, and I could

1021
01:03:43,000 --> 01:03:45,400
Speaker 1: be all those things. But here's what you don't realize. Okay,

1022
01:03:46,200 --> 01:03:50,200
Speaker 1: Howard one oh five is clear channel that fired me

1023
01:03:50,280 --> 01:03:55,360
Speaker 1: in Philly, so fuck you, oh my bad on that one.

1024
01:03:56,680 --> 01:04:00,520
Speaker 1: And then you fired me because allegedly I said some

1025
01:04:00,640 --> 01:04:03,520
Speaker 1: things about some woman's daycare that cost her her business.

1026
01:04:04,000 --> 01:04:07,120
Speaker 1: And then we find out years later that she lied

1027
01:04:07,640 --> 01:04:10,920
Speaker 1: and went to prison, and you never cleared my name.

1028
01:04:11,760 --> 01:04:15,800
Speaker 1: So I'm not fond of you because you never know

1029
01:04:15,880 --> 01:04:20,400
Speaker 1: it might be an opportunity over there night seven. Okay,

1030
01:04:20,440 --> 01:04:26,000
Speaker 1: this is the last one loyalty or respect loyalty, because

1031
01:04:26,080 --> 01:04:30,680
Speaker 1: respect can be premised by if someone's loyalty, they're gonna

1032
01:04:30,680 --> 01:04:32,760
Speaker 1: respect you. It don't matter, right, it don't matter what

1033
01:04:32,880 --> 01:04:35,600
Speaker 1: it is. It's it's I'm down for what. I'm down

1034
01:04:35,680 --> 01:04:38,200
Speaker 1: for you because I'm down for you. I'm not respecting

1035
01:04:38,240 --> 01:04:40,280
Speaker 1: you because you've done this. So I respect you because

1036
01:04:40,320 --> 01:04:43,360
Speaker 1: you've not done that. I'm loyal whether you're a ship

1037
01:04:43,440 --> 01:04:48,320
Speaker 1: back or whether you're a rock star. That's respect. So

1038
01:04:48,440 --> 01:04:50,400
Speaker 1: now you're you're hold on, hold up, hold up. She

1039
01:04:50,520 --> 01:04:52,800
Speaker 1: has a two part story, Oh you want to go

1040
01:04:53,280 --> 01:05:00,040
Speaker 1: really small me and mony love. I want look a

1041
01:05:00,120 --> 01:05:02,240
Speaker 1: moody love. She had beef with Pock a little bit

1042
01:05:02,720 --> 01:05:11,600
Speaker 1: not that night. Okay, okay, tell me this good might

1043
01:05:11,680 --> 01:05:20,920
Speaker 1: saying too much. Let's tell the story. She gave me

1044
01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:26,320
Speaker 1: some and I'm a brother just like your brother. Let's go.

1045
01:05:26,400 --> 01:05:32,480
Speaker 1: Let's let me set on the drink chair. And so

1046
01:05:32,640 --> 01:05:34,560
Speaker 1: you know, they just don't answer my calls when they

1047
01:05:34,640 --> 01:05:38,400
Speaker 1: know I'm like with people, and it's like I will

1048
01:05:38,440 --> 01:05:41,240
Speaker 1: never because you're always having me on the mic. So

1049
01:05:41,440 --> 01:05:43,560
Speaker 1: you text me, I hear what it is and I

1050
01:05:43,720 --> 01:05:45,680
Speaker 1: call you that. Okay, but let's get into this Tupox story,

1051
01:05:45,720 --> 01:05:48,240
Speaker 1: what happened? It was just so so so. It was

1052
01:05:48,360 --> 01:05:52,400
Speaker 1: the Biggie Platinum party. Remember Biggie had gone. Classic legend.

1053
01:05:52,720 --> 01:05:57,600
Speaker 1: Tupac was a Biggist platinum party. Whoa, whoa. You start

1054
01:05:57,640 --> 01:06:02,040
Speaker 1: out with, Yeah, okay, everybody was there. You were told

1055
01:06:02,440 --> 01:06:04,760
Speaker 1: the invitation came to your record label. You were told

1056
01:06:05,800 --> 01:06:08,840
Speaker 1: black time. This is the first time that niggas was

1057
01:06:08,880 --> 01:06:12,200
Speaker 1: not allowed to have the Baggie can I we had

1058
01:06:12,280 --> 01:06:15,640
Speaker 1: Feathers was sequence and this is like niggas just like, well,

1059
01:06:15,760 --> 01:06:19,760
Speaker 1: we're going Hollywood. This is black Hollywood. That was black Hollywood.

1060
01:06:19,880 --> 01:06:22,320
Speaker 1: This is social media being created, right, and you got

1061
01:06:22,440 --> 01:06:25,160
Speaker 1: nigga media a little bit into my mind. Yeah, I

1062
01:06:25,160 --> 01:06:27,200
Speaker 1: think I kind of did. I'll take credit for a

1063
01:06:27,600 --> 01:06:30,000
Speaker 1: part of it at least because you would hear something myself.

1064
01:06:30,200 --> 01:06:32,480
Speaker 1: He was like the first Twitter, first Facebook was like

1065
01:06:32,560 --> 01:06:34,480
Speaker 1: the first DM, like hitting you on the private nils

1066
01:06:34,480 --> 01:06:37,440
Speaker 1: the d M right by the fault. I didn't want

1067
01:06:37,440 --> 01:06:39,480
Speaker 1: to be that, but niggas had that one line number,

1068
01:06:39,720 --> 01:06:42,920
Speaker 1: like you know, I didn't suck that bench kick out

1069
01:06:42,920 --> 01:06:46,400
Speaker 1: out the studio. But so pop came and it was

1070
01:06:46,520 --> 01:06:48,600
Speaker 1: kind of like and Pemony were friends at that time.

1071
01:06:49,440 --> 01:06:52,880
Speaker 1: So we went to the party together and everybody. Everybody

1072
01:06:53,080 --> 01:06:55,040
Speaker 1: was at that party. You I'm sure you were at

1073
01:06:55,080 --> 01:07:03,800
Speaker 1: that party, Kaye. But I heard about the party. Definitely

1074
01:07:04,000 --> 01:07:05,960
Speaker 1: got a new exactly she's talking about. This was in jail.

1075
01:07:05,960 --> 01:07:14,000
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, it's okay. One morning, so Pop came and

1076
01:07:14,120 --> 01:07:17,560
Speaker 1: we're in the crow. We're walking and it's like the

1077
01:07:17,680 --> 01:07:20,560
Speaker 1: music stops. Everyone else he was in music, but I'm

1078
01:07:20,600 --> 01:07:22,520
Speaker 1: with money, and he stopped and he looks at us,

1079
01:07:22,600 --> 01:07:26,520
Speaker 1: and then so like we just we know what the

1080
01:07:26,560 --> 01:07:29,320
Speaker 1: look means and we figure it out. It was a

1081
01:07:29,360 --> 01:07:39,440
Speaker 1: good name, that was it. Jalen. I'm sorry, I forget

1082
01:07:39,520 --> 01:07:48,720
Speaker 1: that he's in here, but so has some relations. Three

1083
01:07:48,760 --> 01:07:52,320
Speaker 1: of us talking about three three of us just talked

1084
01:07:52,360 --> 01:08:08,320
Speaker 1: for a long time. Hoys, just going on. They was

1085
01:08:08,400 --> 01:08:16,519
Speaker 1: reading books. Man, No, I'm not I'm not not beautiful. Yeah,

1086
01:08:17,040 --> 01:08:20,840
Speaker 1: one topic, one time. Okay, that's a beautiful thing. Okay,

1087
01:08:20,920 --> 01:08:22,920
Speaker 1: let's move in on. So, Whendy, when you're trying to

1088
01:08:22,960 --> 01:08:25,840
Speaker 1: murder you, where was you at when you got the news?

1089
01:08:25,920 --> 01:08:28,559
Speaker 1: You're sitting around You're getting two ways because I imagine

1090
01:08:28,960 --> 01:08:34,040
Speaker 1: news on the murder. Yeah you got the news because no, yeah,

1091
01:08:34,240 --> 01:08:36,360
Speaker 1: so so I'm in a room. Okay, let's just be clear.

1092
01:08:37,000 --> 01:08:42,120
Speaker 1: Is this after Pocket Big died? That I know where

1093
01:08:42,160 --> 01:08:43,800
Speaker 1: we're talking about it? Like it is in such a

1094
01:08:44,000 --> 01:08:46,760
Speaker 1: slight situation right now, right, but let's just be clear,

1095
01:08:47,400 --> 01:08:51,639
Speaker 1: after Pocket Big die, this is a very serious thing

1096
01:08:52,080 --> 01:08:55,599
Speaker 1: to even have this implication, right, So I'm just asking

1097
01:08:55,640 --> 01:08:58,760
Speaker 1: you because niggers are following through on threats. I mean,

1098
01:08:58,960 --> 01:09:04,200
Speaker 1: Pocket Biggest ambles up that the stress is being correct delivered.

1099
01:09:04,760 --> 01:09:10,000
Speaker 1: So you're away and you're thinking it's a joke. What

1100
01:09:10,320 --> 01:09:11,639
Speaker 1: do you? What do you? What is your first thoughts

1101
01:09:11,680 --> 01:09:14,120
Speaker 1: when they said yo turning the TV? Sister? I think

1102
01:09:14,120 --> 01:09:16,840
Speaker 1: if someone called you and they said, YO, should read

1103
01:09:16,880 --> 01:09:27,040
Speaker 1: some change your faith? My bestie she calls, and I'm like,

1104
01:09:27,080 --> 01:09:32,840
Speaker 1: who's calling? Because everyone we gotta break out our Kelly too?

1105
01:09:32,840 --> 01:09:36,680
Speaker 1: By anyway, um so wait what go back to that

1106
01:09:38,680 --> 01:09:43,760
Speaker 1: conversations along conversation, So the phone is ringing, but when

1107
01:09:43,800 --> 01:09:46,840
Speaker 1: people know you on vacation, they're not calling. The phone

1108
01:09:46,920 --> 01:09:49,280
Speaker 1: keeps ringing and ringing and ringers. I'm like, did somebody die?

1109
01:09:49,280 --> 01:09:51,400
Speaker 1: I pick up the phone. She goes, bitch, are you

1110
01:09:51,479 --> 01:09:54,479
Speaker 1: all right? And I'm like, what happened? That motherfucker? Windy.

1111
01:09:54,800 --> 01:09:57,000
Speaker 1: They're trying to put a head out on you, bitch.

1112
01:09:57,520 --> 01:09:59,640
Speaker 1: So she goes turn on the news. So I'm in

1113
01:09:59,680 --> 01:10:02,960
Speaker 1: a roo but with my new husband, and I see

1114
01:10:03,000 --> 01:10:07,040
Speaker 1: a split screen that reminds me of the tsunami and

1115
01:10:07,120 --> 01:10:09,040
Speaker 1: it's my face, but now it's Wendy's face and it

1116
01:10:09,120 --> 01:10:16,320
Speaker 1: says rival DJ puts plots murder, hit on competition, like

1117
01:10:16,479 --> 01:10:21,439
Speaker 1: she was just helping you prior, prior to Biggie and

1118
01:10:21,560 --> 01:10:28,800
Speaker 1: pox um, you know, untimely death death. I would have

1119
01:10:28,800 --> 01:10:31,599
Speaker 1: took it as a joke after Biggie and pox Death.

1120
01:10:31,960 --> 01:10:34,280
Speaker 1: I don't think this should be taken lightly. So but

1121
01:10:34,600 --> 01:10:37,320
Speaker 1: tell me how you're taking it. So I'm because I'm

1122
01:10:37,320 --> 01:10:39,320
Speaker 1: out of the country and I don't know rub I

1123
01:10:39,360 --> 01:10:45,840
Speaker 1: didn't know our floors beautiful asked places. But it's not

1124
01:10:46,040 --> 01:10:48,720
Speaker 1: makes you wanted to be threatened that like, don't be

1125
01:10:48,800 --> 01:10:56,439
Speaker 1: threatening the rubles An America couldn't go down in the rumor.

1126
01:10:56,479 --> 01:11:05,200
Speaker 1: You need to go visit the rue. She gotastic and

1127
01:11:05,240 --> 01:11:13,679
Speaker 1: it's over. We do because I can't get the pulse

1128
01:11:13,840 --> 01:11:16,439
Speaker 1: of if the ship is real and not. And my

1129
01:11:16,640 --> 01:11:19,720
Speaker 1: husband he's like at the time, my husband, he's all

1130
01:11:19,840 --> 01:11:22,240
Speaker 1: he's always laid back and Cooley's I'll take care of

1131
01:11:22,320 --> 01:11:25,200
Speaker 1: it when we get back, don't worthy we are, We're good.

1132
01:11:26,640 --> 01:11:29,160
Speaker 1: So we get back. But the whole rest of the vacation,

1133
01:11:29,200 --> 01:11:31,160
Speaker 1: I'm like, is this real? Is it's real? And come

1134
01:11:31,200 --> 01:11:33,639
Speaker 1: to find out, it's real. So envy once again. Envy

1135
01:11:33,640 --> 01:11:38,000
Speaker 1: to the rescue dudes in karate class. We respect you

1136
01:11:41,880 --> 01:11:45,000
Speaker 1: karate class and my mom and I don't know, I

1137
01:11:45,040 --> 01:11:46,760
Speaker 1: just feel like he's gonna garate class. It's okay, him

1138
01:11:46,800 --> 01:11:49,320
Speaker 1: and Joe Biden together, light skinned people get together like this.

1139
01:11:49,840 --> 01:11:54,519
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, No, it's okay. My memory serves me well.

1140
01:11:54,800 --> 01:11:58,120
Speaker 1: And be cold when I got back, or we're on

1141
01:11:58,200 --> 01:12:00,040
Speaker 1: the show together and he goes, by the way, it

1142
01:12:00,600 --> 01:12:03,280
Speaker 1: after this all morning mixed by the way, Jones, Kevin said,

1143
01:12:03,320 --> 01:12:07,040
Speaker 1: don't believe that bullshit, y'all. Good. No, you don't get

1144
01:12:07,080 --> 01:12:10,880
Speaker 1: to say don't believe that bullshit when Lisa Evers just

1145
01:12:11,000 --> 01:12:16,479
Speaker 1: did a full full thing works by the way, by

1146
01:12:16,600 --> 01:12:19,760
Speaker 1: the way, reporting on it and said, I have a

1147
01:12:19,840 --> 01:12:23,000
Speaker 1: thirty page document that if you google it it still

1148
01:12:23,040 --> 01:12:25,280
Speaker 1: comes up. Yeah, this is not this is not funny.

1149
01:12:25,320 --> 01:12:26,960
Speaker 1: I know we laughed about a little bit, but I

1150
01:12:27,000 --> 01:12:30,519
Speaker 1: don't think this is funny, did you get to the bottom. No,

1151
01:12:30,800 --> 01:12:35,240
Speaker 1: I didn't because you about it because at that at

1152
01:12:35,280 --> 01:12:39,439
Speaker 1: that time, so this is when the downward spiral of

1153
01:12:39,520 --> 01:12:46,840
Speaker 1: the Miss Jones enterprise began. So, my, my, this is

1154
01:12:46,920 --> 01:12:49,040
Speaker 1: relationship with NY seven is coming to an end, which

1155
01:12:49,120 --> 01:12:51,280
Speaker 1: is fine because I was only supposed to be there

1156
01:12:51,320 --> 01:12:53,200
Speaker 1: three or four years, but they asked me to stay

1157
01:12:53,200 --> 01:12:55,880
Speaker 1: an extra year because they needed to get Big Boy.

1158
01:12:56,479 --> 01:12:59,840
Speaker 1: He wound up taking over Big Boys. My friend, as

1159
01:12:59,840 --> 01:13:03,120
Speaker 1: we New York Radio at that time, when we listened

1160
01:13:03,320 --> 01:13:06,439
Speaker 1: to Big Boy giving traffic about last sea we did,

1161
01:13:07,600 --> 01:13:13,560
Speaker 1: we did not like California California traffic. I'm sorry, and

1162
01:13:13,600 --> 01:13:15,439
Speaker 1: I street a big Boy. Look. I would literally show

1163
01:13:15,479 --> 01:13:17,960
Speaker 1: you the pages right now, literally speaking right now. But

1164
01:13:18,320 --> 01:13:21,040
Speaker 1: when he took over and he was giving it, he

1165
01:13:21,080 --> 01:13:23,560
Speaker 1: took old. He was giving us the same show that

1166
01:13:23,600 --> 01:13:26,000
Speaker 1: he was giving to California. Get mad at him though,

1167
01:13:26,040 --> 01:13:30,639
Speaker 1: that's corporate ship. No, I'm mad at him because better

1168
01:13:30,760 --> 01:13:34,479
Speaker 1: like give New York New York Steve Harvey, and you

1169
01:13:34,560 --> 01:13:36,680
Speaker 1: better start giving New York New York. I'm coming for that,

1170
01:13:36,840 --> 01:13:40,759
Speaker 1: y'all right, So this is so great. So they asked

1171
01:13:40,800 --> 01:13:42,720
Speaker 1: me to stay an extra year while they could get

1172
01:13:42,840 --> 01:13:46,200
Speaker 1: him all the way together. I don't have a problem. See,

1173
01:13:46,240 --> 01:13:48,920
Speaker 1: everybody thinks I got fired from Hot nighty seven people

1174
01:13:49,000 --> 01:13:51,000
Speaker 1: came with your podcast and said, that's not true, right.

1175
01:13:51,800 --> 01:13:55,480
Speaker 1: I gave them an extra year because I was syndicated

1176
01:13:55,560 --> 01:13:57,880
Speaker 1: in Philly and New York didn't not. So when y'all

1177
01:13:57,960 --> 01:14:00,679
Speaker 1: was listening to me, when Wendy put there all that stuff,

1178
01:14:01,200 --> 01:14:04,040
Speaker 1: I was already one Philly. They wanted me to come back.

1179
01:14:04,360 --> 01:14:08,439
Speaker 1: So I'm like, ill, rather than go ninety five north

1180
01:14:08,520 --> 01:14:10,920
Speaker 1: to New York, let me just stop. Is there any

1181
01:14:11,000 --> 01:14:13,360
Speaker 1: point where you just really thought that that was real? Though,

1182
01:14:13,479 --> 01:14:16,360
Speaker 1: Like I feel like she thinks it's real. I was

1183
01:14:16,400 --> 01:14:21,560
Speaker 1: going through so much internal turmoil within my marriage and

1184
01:14:22,240 --> 01:14:24,840
Speaker 1: UM and the station in Philly that I was about

1185
01:14:24,840 --> 01:14:28,799
Speaker 1: to be driving ninety five south too, that I couldn't

1186
01:14:28,840 --> 01:14:32,240
Speaker 1: even I couldn't even be present to it because I'm

1187
01:14:32,280 --> 01:14:38,000
Speaker 1: trying to The article says ratings usually pulls out hit.

1188
01:14:39,080 --> 01:14:41,200
Speaker 1: I'm like, that's white people ship, Like do we even

1189
01:14:41,280 --> 01:14:44,160
Speaker 1: do that? And so when NB said I saw Kevin

1190
01:14:44,240 --> 01:14:46,280
Speaker 1: in the club this weekend and he said, don't worry

1191
01:14:46,320 --> 01:14:48,240
Speaker 1: about it. It's all good. They're not trying to kill you.

1192
01:14:48,400 --> 01:14:55,360
Speaker 1: I'm like, Kevin is Wendy's ex husband. I'm like, okay, okay, like,

1193
01:14:55,439 --> 01:14:57,640
Speaker 1: don't worry about it, Like we took the hit off right,

1194
01:14:57,720 --> 01:15:01,720
Speaker 1: like they're not coming tonight. So oh and then my

1195
01:15:02,040 --> 01:15:05,519
Speaker 1: husband was like, I got you, and he was somewhat

1196
01:15:05,680 --> 01:15:07,800
Speaker 1: in the street, so when he said I got you,

1197
01:15:07,960 --> 01:15:10,960
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, he got me. They're gonna figure whatever

1198
01:15:11,040 --> 01:15:14,760
Speaker 1: it was. But again my life, I was transitioning out

1199
01:15:14,800 --> 01:15:16,600
Speaker 1: of New York radio, so I really didn't give a

1200
01:15:16,640 --> 01:15:18,320
Speaker 1: funk all that much. And at the end of the day,

1201
01:15:18,640 --> 01:15:21,679
Speaker 1: ain't nobody coming that close to me, even without my husband.

1202
01:15:22,320 --> 01:15:24,160
Speaker 1: That's not going to get some pushback, like I'm not

1203
01:15:24,280 --> 01:15:26,880
Speaker 1: no fucking roll over. It wasn't because at one point

1204
01:15:27,000 --> 01:15:30,599
Speaker 1: I apologize to come. But it was you, Angie, Steph Lover,

1205
01:15:31,320 --> 01:15:34,200
Speaker 1: and Wendy all of the same station. What's that one

1206
01:15:34,240 --> 01:15:36,519
Speaker 1: time we all bugging? I think Steph wasn't there every

1207
01:15:36,600 --> 01:15:43,240
Speaker 1: time with you and Yeah, and arguably what turns out

1208
01:15:43,320 --> 01:15:45,960
Speaker 1: to be that's like the most powerful for women in

1209
01:15:46,000 --> 01:15:50,160
Speaker 1: the radio. Yeah. I actually have a T shirt um

1210
01:15:50,320 --> 01:15:54,600
Speaker 1: inspired by Redman's T shirt that says she goes Sjonesy,

1211
01:15:55,080 --> 01:16:04,720
Speaker 1: Wendy and Angie, that's it. I'm my name's I don't

1212
01:16:04,760 --> 01:16:07,679
Speaker 1: put ye on there. But was there a specific reason

1213
01:16:07,760 --> 01:16:09,160
Speaker 1: why she would put a hit out on you that,

1214
01:16:09,240 --> 01:16:10,960
Speaker 1: you know? Because I think it was Kevin. I think

1215
01:16:11,000 --> 01:16:13,400
Speaker 1: it was her husband, Kevin, because again, Wendy is the

1216
01:16:13,479 --> 01:16:15,639
Speaker 1: one that called me to tell me how to get

1217
01:16:15,640 --> 01:16:19,960
Speaker 1: a job in Philly. She made the calls sense, But

1218
01:16:20,080 --> 01:16:21,800
Speaker 1: it makes all the sense in the world when your

1219
01:16:21,920 --> 01:16:26,240
Speaker 1: husband is controlling and dominating and telling you, Wendy, don't

1220
01:16:26,280 --> 01:16:28,920
Speaker 1: be friends with Jones. She wants to be what you

1221
01:16:29,000 --> 01:16:32,120
Speaker 1: want to be if you want empire. He was trying

1222
01:16:32,160 --> 01:16:35,439
Speaker 1: to protect his you know what I mean, his empire.

1223
01:16:35,520 --> 01:16:38,080
Speaker 1: We see where he is now and it ain't with Wendy.

1224
01:16:38,720 --> 01:16:42,480
Speaker 1: But he was manipulating. In my opinion, he was manipulating

1225
01:16:42,560 --> 01:16:44,200
Speaker 1: her because she was the one that had the power,

1226
01:16:44,960 --> 01:16:53,719
Speaker 1: you know, and she so again, I was so removed

1227
01:16:53,960 --> 01:16:55,760
Speaker 1: because I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, but I'm not

1228
01:16:55,800 --> 01:16:57,880
Speaker 1: even gonna be in New York much longer because y'all

1229
01:16:57,920 --> 01:17:01,639
Speaker 1: niggers don't know I'm leaving big boys coming. I'm out

1230
01:17:01,680 --> 01:17:03,519
Speaker 1: of here. I'm back in Philly. So I didn't really

1231
01:17:04,160 --> 01:17:07,400
Speaker 1: I didn't care like that, But was it any time,

1232
01:17:07,439 --> 01:17:09,840
Speaker 1: and it was like yo, because you know, at the

1233
01:17:09,920 --> 01:17:13,400
Speaker 1: end of the day, I mean, let me be careful.

1234
01:17:13,520 --> 01:17:17,439
Speaker 1: How I say, that's serious? But us point a lot

1235
01:17:17,479 --> 01:17:20,120
Speaker 1: of people were, you know, when he's husband was a

1236
01:17:20,200 --> 01:17:23,400
Speaker 1: different type of character. So wasn't any point where you

1237
01:17:23,560 --> 01:17:25,800
Speaker 1: felt like that it was like time to protect your

1238
01:17:25,840 --> 01:17:33,200
Speaker 1: lifetime from queens. I could call you, I could come on,

1239
01:17:34,000 --> 01:17:38,640
Speaker 1: I could call from Queens, like I don't know that

1240
01:17:38,720 --> 01:17:42,040
Speaker 1: even Kevin was really outside, but I know south side

1241
01:17:42,080 --> 01:17:47,280
Speaker 1: the outside. I never felt right. But the record what

1242
01:17:47,479 --> 01:17:51,600
Speaker 1: happened is and because I was so side tracked with

1243
01:17:51,680 --> 01:17:54,080
Speaker 1: the other ship, like you know, like it was bigger

1244
01:17:54,120 --> 01:17:58,320
Speaker 1: ship when we circle back, but when I circle back

1245
01:17:58,400 --> 01:18:02,000
Speaker 1: to So for all those years, I never reached out

1246
01:18:02,040 --> 01:18:04,160
Speaker 1: to Wendy personally to say, bitch, why are you trying

1247
01:18:04,160 --> 01:18:06,559
Speaker 1: to kill me? Or nothing like that. I was home.

1248
01:18:07,120 --> 01:18:10,000
Speaker 1: I stepped back after clear channel power one oh five,

1249
01:18:10,120 --> 01:18:11,880
Speaker 1: but it was power ninety not it. Philly fired me.

1250
01:18:12,439 --> 01:18:15,639
Speaker 1: I said, I've had enough for cosmic Yeah, fick shout

1251
01:18:15,640 --> 01:18:18,600
Speaker 1: out to them. I had had enough. I'm tired of

1252
01:18:18,680 --> 01:18:22,599
Speaker 1: fighting ex husbands. I'm tired of fighting radio stations because

1253
01:18:22,640 --> 01:18:25,200
Speaker 1: I had to sue them. I had to sue Radio one,

1254
01:18:25,320 --> 01:18:28,200
Speaker 1: which is TV one by the way, and and and

1255
01:18:28,479 --> 01:18:31,599
Speaker 1: so when you feel like you're you're a married woman

1256
01:18:31,720 --> 01:18:35,679
Speaker 1: and you're fighting corporations and you don't have the support

1257
01:18:35,760 --> 01:18:37,920
Speaker 1: in your marriage, you don't have the support and your

1258
01:18:38,000 --> 01:18:42,479
Speaker 1: fast I had to tap out. I had left, and

1259
01:18:42,600 --> 01:18:47,360
Speaker 1: I left, and I put all that ship and to

1260
01:18:47,800 --> 01:18:49,920
Speaker 1: get off your phone praising you. I put all that

1261
01:18:50,000 --> 01:18:59,519
Speaker 1: ship and said, yeah, that's it. That's it. So I

1262
01:18:59,600 --> 01:19:02,200
Speaker 1: put all let and believe me. It was a struggle

1263
01:19:02,200 --> 01:19:04,519
Speaker 1: because I'm like, no, I'm gonna do and I actually did.

1264
01:19:04,680 --> 01:19:07,680
Speaker 1: When I left, I started my own online station. It

1265
01:19:07,800 --> 01:19:09,759
Speaker 1: was a twenty four hour station. I was doing mornings,

1266
01:19:09,800 --> 01:19:11,960
Speaker 1: I was doing sales, I was doing marketing. I was

1267
01:19:12,040 --> 01:19:16,639
Speaker 1: doing everything. And then Hurricane Sandy happened in New York.

1268
01:19:16,720 --> 01:19:19,639
Speaker 1: Now it was in Jersey. We were on Jersey Shore. Oh,

1269
01:19:20,240 --> 01:19:27,280
Speaker 1: y'all got fun. Destroyed all of my equipment, all of

1270
01:19:27,320 --> 01:19:30,320
Speaker 1: my investment, all of everything. And at that point, I said,

1271
01:19:31,920 --> 01:19:34,240
Speaker 1: God must be trying to tell me sit your ass

1272
01:19:34,320 --> 01:19:37,680
Speaker 1: down and just raise your kids. Stop trying to be

1273
01:19:37,920 --> 01:19:41,640
Speaker 1: uh on the radio. Oh I'm miss showns and and

1274
01:19:42,880 --> 01:19:45,879
Speaker 1: put it in perspective because I can't outdo a hurricane.

1275
01:19:46,680 --> 01:19:52,760
Speaker 1: So that changed me. Like I was, I've had to

1276
01:19:53,560 --> 01:19:58,200
Speaker 1: tap into something else and not move with an ego

1277
01:19:58,280 --> 01:20:00,560
Speaker 1: because a lot of times artists and people in the

1278
01:20:00,600 --> 01:20:04,680
Speaker 1: public eye everything. It's the destruction. But we are conditioned

1279
01:20:04,760 --> 01:20:07,080
Speaker 1: to if we don't care about our parents. You need

1280
01:20:07,160 --> 01:20:09,080
Speaker 1: to ego to be an entertainment business. You need it,

1281
01:20:09,400 --> 01:20:12,759
Speaker 1: but you had to control it. And it's hard because

1282
01:20:12,840 --> 01:20:16,439
Speaker 1: you don't. You don't know when enough is enough or

1283
01:20:16,479 --> 01:20:18,640
Speaker 1: when not enough, could have been more or should have

1284
01:20:18,720 --> 01:20:20,560
Speaker 1: been more. I could have got that part if I

1285
01:20:20,600 --> 01:20:26,880
Speaker 1: had just put ties up a little more. So it

1286
01:20:27,040 --> 01:20:30,560
Speaker 1: wasn't ready. I'm sorry, I take it, I got it,

1287
01:20:31,040 --> 01:20:36,120
Speaker 1: i got questions, I'm looking, but I checked out. So

1288
01:20:36,280 --> 01:20:41,160
Speaker 1: for the last thirteen years I was home, no parts

1289
01:20:41,200 --> 01:20:44,360
Speaker 1: of any industry and no parts of any anything. And

1290
01:20:44,439 --> 01:20:49,000
Speaker 1: I have also an illness that some people paid attention

1291
01:20:49,080 --> 01:20:53,920
Speaker 1: to throughout the years. It's called amelia blastoma and it's

1292
01:20:53,920 --> 01:20:57,519
Speaker 1: an aggressive tumor and mine happens to be in my jaw.

1293
01:20:58,120 --> 01:20:59,800
Speaker 1: So if you notice I'm a little puffy are on

1294
01:20:59,840 --> 01:21:02,400
Speaker 1: this side, and I'm a little twisty, it's because the

1295
01:21:02,439 --> 01:21:05,600
Speaker 1: tomb I've been fighting since I was thirteen when I

1296
01:21:05,760 --> 01:21:08,479
Speaker 1: was told you'll never have a career in singing because

1297
01:21:08,520 --> 01:21:10,920
Speaker 1: your jaw won't allow it. The strength of your your

1298
01:21:11,040 --> 01:21:13,160
Speaker 1: joy is weak. You want You'll never have a career

1299
01:21:13,320 --> 01:21:15,760
Speaker 1: radio because that requires talking all the time. You know.

1300
01:21:16,280 --> 01:21:18,519
Speaker 1: I fought through it, but it kind of took me.

1301
01:21:18,760 --> 01:21:20,280
Speaker 1: It took me down, and I had to have like

1302
01:21:20,360 --> 01:21:23,800
Speaker 1: three more surgeries after I left radio. It was a lot.

1303
01:21:24,280 --> 01:21:27,800
Speaker 1: It was I went through a a lot personally. It

1304
01:21:27,960 --> 01:21:32,040
Speaker 1: was a lie and and and it was it was

1305
01:21:32,120 --> 01:21:34,240
Speaker 1: a lot. And it wasn't all good, Like it was

1306
01:21:34,360 --> 01:21:40,320
Speaker 1: dark and I'm so I'm between. I got smart because

1307
01:21:40,320 --> 01:21:43,639
Speaker 1: I got tired of selling houses and trying to get

1308
01:21:43,760 --> 01:21:49,120
Speaker 1: I'm halfway between both. Um, Yeah, it was a lie.

1309
01:21:50,439 --> 01:21:53,160
Speaker 1: It was a lot. But but the beauty of it is,

1310
01:21:54,479 --> 01:21:57,719
Speaker 1: you know that energy that's naturally built inside of us artists.

1311
01:21:58,439 --> 01:22:00,760
Speaker 1: When we can't put it here in a on or

1312
01:22:00,840 --> 01:22:03,880
Speaker 1: we can't do a podcast or radio show, maybe we

1313
01:22:03,960 --> 01:22:07,519
Speaker 1: put it into our kids. And my son goes to

1314
01:22:07,680 --> 01:22:10,719
Speaker 1: like the number one prep boarding school in the world,

1315
01:22:11,840 --> 01:22:15,719
Speaker 1: and he's a three sports scholar athlete. He's varsity football,

1316
01:22:15,800 --> 01:22:20,400
Speaker 1: varsity wrestling, varsity discus. I don't know what you throw

1317
01:22:20,520 --> 01:22:24,200
Speaker 1: some ship. He's throwing shape like he's throwing you can

1318
01:22:24,240 --> 01:22:25,560
Speaker 1: growing up better than me. I don't know what the

1319
01:22:25,840 --> 01:22:33,880
Speaker 1: discus is for the years, but you hear how he

1320
01:22:33,960 --> 01:22:44,080
Speaker 1: talks like, yeah talking. So I'll put it into him

1321
01:22:44,560 --> 01:22:48,839
Speaker 1: and my other son, and and I'm pleased with the result.

1322
01:22:49,080 --> 01:22:53,599
Speaker 1: And y'all watch Power. What's the son's name that goes

1323
01:22:53,640 --> 01:22:56,760
Speaker 1: to show that's the one that killed people? Yeah? Yeah,

1324
01:22:57,000 --> 01:23:05,880
Speaker 1: the sun. What's his name? His son in Power? Well

1325
01:23:05,960 --> 01:23:12,000
Speaker 1: tard the boarding school that he goes to the same

1326
01:23:13,240 --> 01:23:21,320
Speaker 1: is the killing though, right, it probably him too. We

1327
01:23:21,400 --> 01:23:23,240
Speaker 1: can't see you to college. They kill me. We gotta

1328
01:23:27,479 --> 01:23:30,840
Speaker 1: put that into my kids. And and he's great. And

1329
01:23:30,960 --> 01:23:33,240
Speaker 1: my younger son is about to be off to the

1330
01:23:33,320 --> 01:23:36,760
Speaker 1: same situation. And so now I have both arms swinging free,

1331
01:23:37,200 --> 01:23:43,320
Speaker 1: and I'm like, let's go. Well, congratulations to you. I

1332
01:23:43,360 --> 01:23:46,200
Speaker 1: got couple more. I got couple more. I got che

1333
01:23:46,320 --> 01:23:49,880
Speaker 1: cheets right here. No, it's good, it's good, Okay, all right, dad,

1334
01:23:50,080 --> 01:23:52,280
Speaker 1: this is this is all right. I gotta ask this.

1335
01:23:52,760 --> 01:23:55,560
Speaker 1: He said. Recently, you were detained for threatning one of

1336
01:23:55,640 --> 01:24:00,400
Speaker 1: your kids classmates. That's reading. It's out and the thing

1337
01:24:00,920 --> 01:24:05,960
Speaker 1: tell me what it says. Please you started talking about

1338
01:24:05,960 --> 01:24:08,880
Speaker 1: this in your podcast. Okay, I thought it was on

1339
01:24:08,960 --> 01:24:12,160
Speaker 1: the blog. I'm like, you put it out there, okay, okay,

1340
01:24:12,800 --> 01:24:15,360
Speaker 1: because COVID happened, and now I can't go back into court.

1341
01:24:15,520 --> 01:24:18,559
Speaker 1: But I got I got lawyer's stuff. So his brother,

1342
01:24:20,600 --> 01:24:25,559
Speaker 1: you see him shake, get his right his brother something.

1343
01:24:25,640 --> 01:24:29,599
Speaker 1: So his brother, little brother. He's twelve, but he runs

1344
01:24:29,720 --> 01:24:31,880
Speaker 1: with a total different crowd of people that he runs with,

1345
01:24:32,640 --> 01:24:35,120
Speaker 1: and so I'm not aware of what's going on. I

1346
01:24:35,200 --> 01:24:37,720
Speaker 1: had to get a call on my or text. You're

1347
01:24:37,760 --> 01:24:43,679
Speaker 1: a fucking bad mother. Your fucking son is fucking terrorizing us.

1348
01:24:44,080 --> 01:24:51,320
Speaker 1: You need to fucking kill yourself. Your my other son's

1349
01:24:51,760 --> 01:24:58,479
Speaker 1: enemy's at twelve year old. No, it was a eleven

1350
01:24:58,600 --> 01:25:02,400
Speaker 1: year old girl. But I'm in bed watching Power and

1351
01:25:02,520 --> 01:25:06,400
Speaker 1: I'm like, who wants the smoke? Like I didn't realize

1352
01:25:06,439 --> 01:25:08,120
Speaker 1: it was a twelve year old, and I fucking go

1353
01:25:08,360 --> 01:25:11,519
Speaker 1: all the way in and I'm like, she can get whatever,

1354
01:25:16,280 --> 01:25:22,600
Speaker 1: and saw her mom so that her mom was like

1355
01:25:24,080 --> 01:25:26,120
Speaker 1: But I called the mom and I was like, your

1356
01:25:26,200 --> 01:25:28,960
Speaker 1: daughters out of control because she shouldn't be texting an adult.

1357
01:25:29,880 --> 01:25:32,880
Speaker 1: She always needs his ass beat. So I owned that.

1358
01:25:33,600 --> 01:25:36,439
Speaker 1: But what I felt we were good. She goes and

1359
01:25:36,479 --> 01:25:39,599
Speaker 1: files and policia for it and says she she threatened

1360
01:25:39,640 --> 01:25:44,400
Speaker 1: to take my daughter over her knee. So now it's

1361
01:25:44,439 --> 01:25:48,439
Speaker 1: not just a case of mere a terroristic threat, but

1362
01:25:49,040 --> 01:25:52,400
Speaker 1: it's her daughter against my son. But she didn't realize

1363
01:25:52,439 --> 01:25:55,120
Speaker 1: that her daughter texted him and said, I will murder

1364
01:25:55,160 --> 01:25:58,720
Speaker 1: you with my bare fucking hands. So I told him screenshot,

1365
01:25:59,080 --> 01:26:01,080
Speaker 1: or maybe I told you screen. Trying for your brother,

1366
01:26:02,360 --> 01:26:04,479
Speaker 1: I called him at boarding school. I'm sorry with Jalen,

1367
01:26:04,520 --> 01:26:08,200
Speaker 1: I fail you because he had nothing to do with it.

1368
01:26:08,280 --> 01:26:10,920
Speaker 1: He's trying to study and so he but I don't

1369
01:26:10,960 --> 01:26:13,400
Speaker 1: know how to do technology. So he saved it. When

1370
01:26:13,439 --> 01:26:15,640
Speaker 1: we got before the judge. We showed the judge, he's like,

1371
01:26:15,720 --> 01:26:18,040
Speaker 1: oh he's in the good. The little bit is in

1372
01:26:18,120 --> 01:26:20,960
Speaker 1: the bad. And mom, your old school, Like get it,

1373
01:26:21,160 --> 01:26:22,960
Speaker 1: but you still got to show up at court. And

1374
01:26:23,000 --> 01:26:27,559
Speaker 1: then COVID happened. So court hasn't happened. But here's the thing.

1375
01:26:28,240 --> 01:26:30,840
Speaker 1: I'm old school, and I will suck you up from

1376
01:26:30,880 --> 01:26:37,400
Speaker 1: my kids. Positive energy called creed positive. That's my gun. Yeah,

1377
01:26:37,479 --> 01:26:43,960
Speaker 1: it's like, what is it called sage? Keep going? I

1378
01:26:44,080 --> 01:26:48,559
Speaker 1: do sage when your dad leaves. Okay, this it's nice.

1379
01:26:48,960 --> 01:26:52,240
Speaker 1: So yeah, But the thing is, I like, we live

1380
01:26:52,280 --> 01:26:54,519
Speaker 1: in the suburbs, but I can't change who I am.

1381
01:26:55,000 --> 01:26:57,040
Speaker 1: And I don't care if my son and my son

1382
01:26:57,200 --> 01:27:00,920
Speaker 1: is bad, he's bad, but he don't just like I

1383
01:27:01,040 --> 01:27:04,800
Speaker 1: feel like some people just take our round boys. They're

1384
01:27:04,840 --> 01:27:08,840
Speaker 1: so fast to take them to the system, like so fat,

1385
01:27:08,880 --> 01:27:12,080
Speaker 1: like they're still kids first, don't look at them like

1386
01:27:12,120 --> 01:27:14,759
Speaker 1: they're just oh those are They don't get the benefits.

1387
01:27:14,800 --> 01:27:16,439
Speaker 1: They don't get the benefits out of being a kid.

1388
01:27:16,680 --> 01:27:19,160
Speaker 1: So I pushed back and port back and and I

1389
01:27:19,280 --> 01:27:21,320
Speaker 1: do it all again if I had to, so At

1390
01:27:21,320 --> 01:27:24,599
Speaker 1: won't point you in funk flex did pompee right when

1391
01:27:24,680 --> 01:27:29,800
Speaker 1: Remy was Remy was beating with Fat Joe? Whoa, I

1392
01:27:29,840 --> 01:27:37,880
Speaker 1: don't know? Go absolutely yeah. I had no idea. Oh

1393
01:27:37,960 --> 01:27:39,920
Speaker 1: I had no idea. Can you break that down? So

1394
01:27:40,080 --> 01:27:42,559
Speaker 1: for the record, I love Fat Joe because it had

1395
01:27:42,600 --> 01:27:46,360
Speaker 1: it not been for Fat Joe, I would I would

1396
01:27:46,360 --> 01:27:49,280
Speaker 1: have not been on punch record, punished record, stand up

1397
01:27:49,280 --> 01:27:55,640
Speaker 1: and say that. And I love Joey because even when

1398
01:27:55,720 --> 01:27:58,479
Speaker 1: we like he's just you know, you can have a

1399
01:27:58,520 --> 01:28:01,439
Speaker 1: conversation why so so what happened? I just bring it

1400
01:28:01,479 --> 01:28:04,600
Speaker 1: down for Lem and Remy were in something. Remy is

1401
01:28:04,760 --> 01:28:11,320
Speaker 1: my bitch, but listening listening and Remy like, um she

1402
01:28:11,560 --> 01:28:19,880
Speaker 1: was she was Oftentimes women in the industry do not

1403
01:28:20,360 --> 01:28:25,800
Speaker 1: get supported by our brothers, and um, this was an

1404
01:28:25,840 --> 01:28:28,360
Speaker 1: incident that might have been a difference of opinion or

1405
01:28:28,840 --> 01:28:34,600
Speaker 1: a money thing or whatever. It was a miscommunication. But

1406
01:28:34,720 --> 01:28:40,479
Speaker 1: again has all the power at the radio station in nights.

1407
01:28:40,960 --> 01:28:44,080
Speaker 1: But now, but at this time, tell me exactly what

1408
01:28:44,280 --> 01:28:46,360
Speaker 1: what what was it that they were they were I

1409
01:28:46,400 --> 01:28:48,160
Speaker 1: don't know what the beef was, but I know that

1410
01:28:48,439 --> 01:28:51,880
Speaker 1: when you beef with Flex and Flex owns the night,

1411
01:28:52,880 --> 01:28:55,200
Speaker 1: you gotta come the morning because I'm the black sheet.

1412
01:28:55,520 --> 01:28:59,360
Speaker 1: So Remy came to you and Remy started talking that

1413
01:28:59,520 --> 01:29:04,280
Speaker 1: you know, and then I remember the situation. I don't

1414
01:29:04,280 --> 01:29:07,000
Speaker 1: want the exact content, right, So was this the first

1415
01:29:07,040 --> 01:29:10,559
Speaker 1: time that Ribby said something that she was displeased about

1416
01:29:10,600 --> 01:29:12,400
Speaker 1: fat Joe? Was the first time all your show? Because

1417
01:29:12,400 --> 01:29:14,800
Speaker 1: they used to always cut everybody dropped it on my show?

1418
01:29:15,280 --> 01:29:18,200
Speaker 1: And then I deal with the describe what happened. She

1419
01:29:18,360 --> 01:29:20,680
Speaker 1: was piste off and she's not refined Remy as we

1420
01:29:20,760 --> 01:29:23,479
Speaker 1: see her now, she was like, no funk that he's

1421
01:29:23,479 --> 01:29:25,680
Speaker 1: trying to do this. He's not doing that. Where's my

1422
01:29:25,840 --> 01:29:27,760
Speaker 1: this and where's my that? And you're supposed to be

1423
01:29:27,840 --> 01:29:30,840
Speaker 1: fat Joe. And it was ugly, was big, it was bad,

1424
01:29:31,080 --> 01:29:34,640
Speaker 1: and it was on morning radio. Morning radio is the

1425
01:29:35,080 --> 01:29:38,639
Speaker 1: top watch listened to. I tell people this whole time.

1426
01:29:39,320 --> 01:29:41,200
Speaker 1: If you don't want it to get back, don't bring

1427
01:29:41,280 --> 01:29:44,600
Speaker 1: it to morning radio. But back then, you know, I

1428
01:29:44,760 --> 01:29:47,479
Speaker 1: rock niggers asleep and make me feel comfortable. And Remy

1429
01:29:47,560 --> 01:29:49,240
Speaker 1: was my friend, so I didn't have to rock her.

1430
01:29:49,400 --> 01:29:52,760
Speaker 1: I just said, bitch, calm, tell your story. But Fat

1431
01:29:52,880 --> 01:29:56,680
Speaker 1: Joe is going to flex and flexes. Also he's the

1432
01:29:56,760 --> 01:29:59,120
Speaker 1: king of Knights, so it becomes a battle and I'm

1433
01:29:59,160 --> 01:30:05,080
Speaker 1: not backing down. So ultimately, you know, you think flex

1434
01:30:05,160 --> 01:30:08,280
Speaker 1: had me like let go early atting on a seven?

1435
01:30:09,560 --> 01:30:12,599
Speaker 1: Is that what you're saying when you're asking because get

1436
01:30:12,680 --> 01:30:19,639
Speaker 1: their shots? Thank you, Glory, I'm asking you. He's the reason. Okay,

1437
01:30:19,680 --> 01:30:21,679
Speaker 1: So here's the thing, because I asking at one point

1438
01:30:21,680 --> 01:30:24,560
Speaker 1: you last place really didn't go on each other. But

1439
01:30:24,680 --> 01:30:26,560
Speaker 1: I didn't that really, I didn't just put you on

1440
01:30:26,640 --> 01:30:30,160
Speaker 1: two together. But I wouldn't with another shot too, obviously

1441
01:30:30,960 --> 01:30:33,320
Speaker 1: I went that with that hold on? Is that what

1442
01:30:33,439 --> 01:30:37,519
Speaker 1: you think happened. Yeah, because when I was leaving Hot

1443
01:30:38,000 --> 01:30:42,200
Speaker 1: even though what a shot. That's right, that's right here

1444
01:30:42,240 --> 01:30:47,599
Speaker 1: Sunny we got Mr Sunny now Sunny Dunny, Mr Dank,

1445
01:30:47,640 --> 01:30:52,479
Speaker 1: you appreciate you. It's odd because on my leaving of

1446
01:30:53,520 --> 01:31:03,560
Speaker 1: seven shot ye French so alright cool? So Jalen. So

1447
01:31:03,800 --> 01:31:08,000
Speaker 1: is my son Jalen. He's frea and he speaks it yeah, yes, yes, yes,

1448
01:31:08,600 --> 01:31:10,719
Speaker 1: and he speaks it with his grandma like he from birth.

1449
01:31:11,800 --> 01:31:25,760
Speaker 1: You just gassing a grandmother conversations. I don't know what's happening. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

1450
01:31:26,000 --> 01:31:31,479
Speaker 1: that's him. Thank you, Mrs Sunny. Yeah, we're talking about so.

1451
01:31:33,000 --> 01:31:38,760
Speaker 1: Upon my leaving, it was your idea to take the shot.

1452
01:31:40,479 --> 01:31:43,200
Speaker 1: I didn't drink nothing on the plane. Good, that's good.

1453
01:31:43,320 --> 01:31:45,760
Speaker 1: Bitch next to me ordered zinfandel, right, and then she

1454
01:31:45,840 --> 01:31:51,519
Speaker 1: looked at me like I was gonna judge. It's just

1455
01:31:51,600 --> 01:31:56,280
Speaker 1: saving for drink Champ So I was. I knew when

1456
01:31:56,320 --> 01:31:57,760
Speaker 1: I left Hot I was gonna be in Philly. I

1457
01:31:57,840 --> 01:32:02,639
Speaker 1: was good. B Et started meeting with me before my departure,

1458
01:32:02,880 --> 01:32:06,479
Speaker 1: Reginald Hudland. He was like, we would love to do

1459
01:32:06,560 --> 01:32:09,920
Speaker 1: a show with you. I said, I'm leaving Hot. We

1460
01:32:09,960 --> 01:32:13,240
Speaker 1: don't care. We want to film the departure. I said, Okay,

1461
01:32:13,320 --> 01:32:16,519
Speaker 1: here's what you don't know. I'm pregnant. That's a bonus.

1462
01:32:17,200 --> 01:32:19,479
Speaker 1: We love babies. Can we come into the delivery room

1463
01:32:19,479 --> 01:32:23,320
Speaker 1: and document? And I'm like, I don't even want my

1464
01:32:23,400 --> 01:32:26,599
Speaker 1: husband there. Of course you can come. So they start

1465
01:32:26,680 --> 01:32:29,320
Speaker 1: coming up to Hot ninety seven the last few weeks

1466
01:32:29,360 --> 01:32:31,960
Speaker 1: of me being on there, and the rumor is that

1467
01:32:32,320 --> 01:32:36,040
Speaker 1: maybe Flex talked to Ebro and said it may not

1468
01:32:36,160 --> 01:32:39,120
Speaker 1: be a great idea for the company to be doing

1469
01:32:39,200 --> 01:32:41,360
Speaker 1: this when she's about to leave. And I get it.

1470
01:32:42,200 --> 01:32:47,439
Speaker 1: I get it to Ed Bregnitt, So that could That's

1471
01:32:47,479 --> 01:32:50,080
Speaker 1: the only thing that I ever could feel that maybe

1472
01:32:50,200 --> 01:32:53,439
Speaker 1: Flex it because other than that, he was always a supporter.

1473
01:32:53,920 --> 01:32:57,719
Speaker 1: He was always he always has great advice and he's

1474
01:32:57,800 --> 01:33:01,800
Speaker 1: always like umo. Flex is my brother and I love him.

1475
01:33:01,920 --> 01:33:03,960
Speaker 1: But Flex is a company man. He's going down with

1476
01:33:04,040 --> 01:33:07,720
Speaker 1: the ship. Yeah, like he's he said that he doesn't care.

1477
01:33:07,840 --> 01:33:10,559
Speaker 1: He'll take less money out to seven to stay to seven,

1478
01:33:11,040 --> 01:33:13,840
Speaker 1: just to be and look, he's whether the storm. He's

1479
01:33:13,840 --> 01:33:16,120
Speaker 1: still working. After all these years. My ass I've been fired.

1480
01:33:16,160 --> 01:33:18,920
Speaker 1: Wet her fire hired, Bring her back bringing back fire

1481
01:33:18,960 --> 01:33:22,560
Speaker 1: her fire Bringer back. So obviously there's something to that.

1482
01:33:24,120 --> 01:33:27,479
Speaker 1: What do you think when Angie laugh Because like like

1483
01:33:27,600 --> 01:33:30,080
Speaker 1: Angie and Flex was like they were like the two

1484
01:33:30,640 --> 01:33:35,560
Speaker 1: like staples of Hotland. I think that had it not

1485
01:33:35,720 --> 01:33:39,519
Speaker 1: been for Envy leaving and Angie might still be at

1486
01:33:39,560 --> 01:33:43,000
Speaker 1: hot Whoa because every leaving and making it work, because

1487
01:33:43,040 --> 01:33:45,360
Speaker 1: it's not like I just left. Envy left and made

1488
01:33:45,400 --> 01:33:48,280
Speaker 1: it work and showed the possibility. And he saw the

1489
01:33:48,320 --> 01:33:50,760
Speaker 1: painting on the canvas when it was a blank. A

1490
01:33:50,840 --> 01:33:53,640
Speaker 1: lot of people they want they believe it could be

1491
01:33:53,720 --> 01:33:55,719
Speaker 1: better on the other side, but they're not quite ready

1492
01:33:55,760 --> 01:33:59,040
Speaker 1: to take that move. And he's a risk taker. He

1493
01:33:59,160 --> 01:34:01,760
Speaker 1: took the move, you know. And the other side is

1494
01:34:02,160 --> 01:34:05,040
Speaker 1: Ebro wasn't willing to give Envy what he knew he deserved.

1495
01:34:05,960 --> 01:34:10,960
Speaker 1: Now Envy had all that money from Star, Damn good,

1496
01:34:12,280 --> 01:34:17,400
Speaker 1: Queen's get the money. He's exactly to say, like, alright, cool,

1497
01:34:17,720 --> 01:34:21,080
Speaker 1: just be clear. There was a bad joke again on

1498
01:34:21,400 --> 01:34:24,320
Speaker 1: the morning shows we have. I don't want to repeat

1499
01:34:24,360 --> 01:34:27,920
Speaker 1: what allegedly to start it with me, Okay, No, so

1500
01:34:28,280 --> 01:34:33,639
Speaker 1: Star started talking about you Jalen being a bastard child,

1501
01:34:34,240 --> 01:34:37,680
Speaker 1: and then Power was running commercials all weekend about how

1502
01:34:38,200 --> 01:34:42,200
Speaker 1: this whore had this bastard child, and he was asking

1503
01:34:42,320 --> 01:34:45,040
Speaker 1: people at the hospital you were born in to send

1504
01:34:45,200 --> 01:34:54,040
Speaker 1: our medical records. We're sorry, man, We're sorry again. Yeah, sorry, sorrow. Shot.

1505
01:34:58,680 --> 01:35:02,080
Speaker 1: That was a lot of sorrow. I'm going myself. I

1506
01:35:02,200 --> 01:35:06,560
Speaker 1: got so wait we got weight to No, no, we

1507
01:35:06,640 --> 01:35:10,120
Speaker 1: got again. It was he was in the bastard you got,

1508
01:35:10,200 --> 01:35:13,080
Speaker 1: you got your shot. No, mama, to the heavy poor,

1509
01:35:14,000 --> 01:35:16,120
Speaker 1: to the heavy poor. Okay, that's cool. It in two

1510
01:35:16,320 --> 01:35:21,040
Speaker 1: instead of one. Holy ship, because I don't know what's

1511
01:35:21,040 --> 01:35:24,880
Speaker 1: gonna get Wait, because it's because there's a lot. And

1512
01:35:24,960 --> 01:35:27,240
Speaker 1: again you're told don't talk about that on the air.

1513
01:35:27,640 --> 01:35:33,240
Speaker 1: Let it go and don't Okay, So he pat commercials

1514
01:35:33,479 --> 01:35:42,240
Speaker 1: and promos. Wait as I so he had commercials saying

1515
01:35:42,360 --> 01:35:46,720
Speaker 1: what about your son, about me being a like a

1516
01:35:46,800 --> 01:35:50,200
Speaker 1: whore having a child out of wedlock and that he's

1517
01:35:50,360 --> 01:35:54,679
Speaker 1: down syndrome, and to send the people at the hospital

1518
01:35:54,760 --> 01:35:57,120
Speaker 1: where he was born, please send the medical records and

1519
01:35:57,120 --> 01:35:59,680
Speaker 1: I'll give you money. I'll say, allegedly, because you have to.

1520
01:35:59,800 --> 01:36:03,679
Speaker 1: Now I think I think hip hop beefs is nothing

1521
01:36:03,680 --> 01:36:10,320
Speaker 1: because I think radio I mean that I would have

1522
01:36:10,520 --> 01:36:12,559
Speaker 1: this ship is wild man. I would have no idea,

1523
01:36:12,600 --> 01:36:14,840
Speaker 1: Like the way you just broke it down, I had

1524
01:36:14,920 --> 01:36:16,840
Speaker 1: no idea I gonna leave you. There was a murder

1525
01:36:16,960 --> 01:36:21,080
Speaker 1: hit on you. Now I believe not so much before. No,

1526
01:36:21,280 --> 01:36:24,240
Speaker 1: now I'm believing because it's is getting deep down my family.

1527
01:36:26,120 --> 01:36:28,040
Speaker 1: It was a lot. And so the whole weekend, like

1528
01:36:28,160 --> 01:36:31,120
Speaker 1: Somber told you about the news cycle on Friday, no

1529
01:36:31,280 --> 01:36:34,679
Speaker 1: one's reading, so no one's everyone's hearing, but no one's

1530
01:36:34,720 --> 01:36:38,439
Speaker 1: like calling and complaining because people advertisers that would, they're

1531
01:36:38,479 --> 01:36:43,320
Speaker 1: on their dots. So this story comes out, Star Wars

1532
01:36:43,400 --> 01:36:45,559
Speaker 1: coming up with this and then wait, wait, wait, wait,

1533
01:36:45,680 --> 01:36:47,960
Speaker 1: So I'm sorry, there's something you said that they just

1534
01:36:48,120 --> 01:36:51,200
Speaker 1: resonate with me. It's the advertisers that are not going

1535
01:36:51,240 --> 01:36:54,480
Speaker 1: to hear it. It's not necessarily the listeners, it's the advertisers.

1536
01:36:55,680 --> 01:36:57,400
Speaker 1: So they're playing promos over the week. I didn't I

1537
01:36:57,400 --> 01:37:00,679
Speaker 1: didn't catch that at first. Now you get to play.

1538
01:37:01,840 --> 01:37:04,759
Speaker 1: And so the commercials are playing, they're playing all weekend,

1539
01:37:05,160 --> 01:37:07,599
Speaker 1: and people are barbecuing and they're hearing these promos because

1540
01:37:07,600 --> 01:37:10,040
Speaker 1: everyone's tuned into power and hot and hot and power.

1541
01:37:11,080 --> 01:37:15,000
Speaker 1: And he's saying he's saying that my son is down syndrome,

1542
01:37:15,040 --> 01:37:18,920
Speaker 1: which even if he were, it's still like a kid, like,

1543
01:37:19,000 --> 01:37:21,720
Speaker 1: don't be talking about kids. They didn't ask to be.

1544
01:37:22,000 --> 01:37:24,840
Speaker 1: This is after he did everything, or this is before,

1545
01:37:25,040 --> 01:37:27,040
Speaker 1: this is before, this is what started in all right,

1546
01:37:27,080 --> 01:37:29,280
Speaker 1: So he basically got away with this. This is the

1547
01:37:29,320 --> 01:37:31,600
Speaker 1: reason why he kept going with it. Is that what

1548
01:37:31,680 --> 01:37:35,640
Speaker 1: we're saying. Well, and they after that weekend and they

1549
01:37:35,880 --> 01:37:38,400
Speaker 1: heard it and came in once again to my defense.

1550
01:37:39,200 --> 01:37:43,560
Speaker 1: I was like, how dare he talk about Jalen and

1551
01:37:43,720 --> 01:37:46,800
Speaker 1: you like that? And the station run commercials and promos

1552
01:37:49,520 --> 01:37:53,000
Speaker 1: who's doing that? And it's hot a hot still and

1553
01:37:53,120 --> 01:37:55,960
Speaker 1: the defendant this is such an ill story, like this

1554
01:37:56,160 --> 01:38:00,320
Speaker 1: is so is at hot night seven and stars kicking

1555
01:38:00,400 --> 01:38:02,800
Speaker 1: my back and my son's back and calling him about

1556
01:38:04,400 --> 01:38:08,840
Speaker 1: crypt blood shy. I was a blood I didn't know

1557
01:38:09,000 --> 01:38:19,040
Speaker 1: it well and didn't it was going down. But because

1558
01:38:19,120 --> 01:38:23,000
Speaker 1: again but because radio was the beast was bigger than

1559
01:38:23,080 --> 01:38:27,160
Speaker 1: even hip hoppy, I'm I'm just going going, going, so

1560
01:38:27,600 --> 01:38:30,599
Speaker 1: and he's like, why isn't Jalen's dad saying something. I'm like, well,

1561
01:38:30,640 --> 01:38:32,320
Speaker 1: I had a meeting with him and the uncle's and

1562
01:38:32,400 --> 01:38:34,880
Speaker 1: they feel that me ignoring him is the best thing

1563
01:38:34,960 --> 01:38:37,920
Speaker 1: to do, and he goes, fuck that. He goes on

1564
01:38:38,000 --> 01:38:43,120
Speaker 1: the mic the next break and breaks start down. Star

1565
01:38:43,360 --> 01:38:46,920
Speaker 1: now has his ammunition because all along Ebro have been

1566
01:38:46,960 --> 01:38:50,720
Speaker 1: telling me and Envy don't respond. Stars just trying to

1567
01:38:50,760 --> 01:38:54,479
Speaker 1: get a reaction, don't do it. And he said, fuck you.

1568
01:38:55,400 --> 01:38:59,120
Speaker 1: Somebody needs to stand up for Jones, and he goes in,

1569
01:39:00,120 --> 01:39:03,080
Speaker 1: r goes back, and he goes back start. So now

1570
01:39:03,160 --> 01:39:06,160
Speaker 1: it's bigger than meeting No Brown and they're going back

1571
01:39:06,200 --> 01:39:10,080
Speaker 1: and forth with each other, and Star went up further

1572
01:39:10,160 --> 01:39:13,320
Speaker 1: than he should have gone and said something about Andy's

1573
01:39:13,400 --> 01:39:16,880
Speaker 1: daughter wiping her as pennies and taking a bite out

1574
01:39:16,920 --> 01:39:21,639
Speaker 1: of it, allegedly. And but but because we had gone

1575
01:39:21,680 --> 01:39:26,639
Speaker 1: through tsunami and the wife has is of Asian descent,

1576
01:39:28,040 --> 01:39:31,599
Speaker 1: we knew to play. So Envy went to the same man,

1577
01:39:32,200 --> 01:39:33,840
Speaker 1: or had his wife go to the same man, John

1578
01:39:33,920 --> 01:39:37,920
Speaker 1: Lou and said, look at this man and what he's

1579
01:39:37,920 --> 01:39:41,960
Speaker 1: saying about my kids. Their mother's Asian. They're like, if

1580
01:39:42,000 --> 01:39:44,640
Speaker 1: you want to fight us for tsunami, bitch, stand up

1581
01:39:44,720 --> 01:39:48,880
Speaker 1: the same way. And he did, and Starr had to

1582
01:39:48,920 --> 01:39:51,559
Speaker 1: get fired and and we got like millions and millions

1583
01:39:51,600 --> 01:39:56,240
Speaker 1: of dollars and sorry, Jalen, your dad made a bad call.

1584
01:39:56,960 --> 01:40:00,880
Speaker 1: Could have been us. It's all right, we're coming back now,

1585
01:40:00,880 --> 01:40:04,280
Speaker 1: a right to come back, come back, coming back, and

1586
01:40:04,400 --> 01:40:07,320
Speaker 1: so we're back. And so that's what happened. That's what

1587
01:40:07,479 --> 01:40:11,920
Speaker 1: fueled that whole envying and star and people think, oh,

1588
01:40:12,080 --> 01:40:14,200
Speaker 1: Envy's a snitch. You're not a snitch when you're protecting

1589
01:40:14,240 --> 01:40:16,360
Speaker 1: your children, because there are a lot of crazies out

1590
01:40:16,400 --> 01:40:19,720
Speaker 1: here that will hear someone say something and it's a

1591
01:40:19,760 --> 01:40:22,559
Speaker 1: clarion call to let me go and shoot his daughter,

1592
01:40:22,880 --> 01:40:24,680
Speaker 1: or let me go in the white mannaise between her

1593
01:40:25,000 --> 01:40:28,080
Speaker 1: ask and all those things. So Envy he did, I

1594
01:40:28,160 --> 01:40:32,200
Speaker 1: feel the responsible thing. And after that start got fired

1595
01:40:33,520 --> 01:40:37,360
Speaker 1: from Power one oh five. And then soon thereafter I

1596
01:40:37,439 --> 01:40:40,360
Speaker 1: think I left, and then and the wound up where

1597
01:40:40,360 --> 01:40:42,439
Speaker 1: he wound up. But then he wound up at Power,

1598
01:40:42,600 --> 01:40:45,240
Speaker 1: and I don't even know how he got here, but

1599
01:40:45,760 --> 01:40:48,720
Speaker 1: that's what happened. At what point, do you guys all

1600
01:40:48,800 --> 01:40:52,600
Speaker 1: feel that or do you ever feel that y'all are

1601
01:40:52,680 --> 01:40:56,720
Speaker 1: just pawns in these corporate people's game. Never because the

1602
01:40:56,800 --> 01:41:00,200
Speaker 1: money is so good, because y'all just fighting. They're fighting, You'll,

1603
01:41:06,000 --> 01:41:09,040
Speaker 1: it's understood though the fight is is they're just it's

1604
01:41:09,439 --> 01:41:14,640
Speaker 1: the corporations are are vuying for advertisement and then you

1605
01:41:14,760 --> 01:41:16,600
Speaker 1: guys are taking it to the streets. Well to the

1606
01:41:16,680 --> 01:41:21,120
Speaker 1: point of us us not getting corporate money, like the

1607
01:41:21,200 --> 01:41:25,040
Speaker 1: corporate is we were minding our busin is having our kids.

1608
01:41:25,280 --> 01:41:29,960
Speaker 1: You're the one calling them autistic and down syndrome, like

1609
01:41:30,439 --> 01:41:33,519
Speaker 1: you're saying the other hosts right when I'm trying to say,

1610
01:41:33,600 --> 01:41:36,479
Speaker 1: like why are they going that low? Why y'all have

1611
01:41:36,600 --> 01:41:38,720
Speaker 1: to respond like at the end of the day, these

1612
01:41:38,800 --> 01:41:42,519
Speaker 1: companies and nobody's saying nothing about the executive due at

1613
01:41:42,520 --> 01:41:46,000
Speaker 1: the top his kids by cousin, you know, that would

1614
01:41:46,000 --> 01:41:50,080
Speaker 1: be shut down so that they probably knew this. Oh

1615
01:41:50,200 --> 01:41:52,720
Speaker 1: this is great ratings. Oh this is great. But we're

1616
01:41:52,800 --> 01:41:54,559
Speaker 1: caught up in emotion, do you know what I mean?

1617
01:41:55,280 --> 01:41:59,559
Speaker 1: Like we're protecting our image or our children or our kids.

1618
01:42:00,640 --> 01:42:03,880
Speaker 1: We don't want them like you you protect your kids

1619
01:42:04,600 --> 01:42:06,760
Speaker 1: and you're not thinking of oh but this is really

1620
01:42:06,800 --> 01:42:09,479
Speaker 1: employed by corporate Well you can't at that point. I'm

1621
01:42:09,520 --> 01:42:12,120
Speaker 1: just saying before you get to that point, like why

1622
01:42:12,240 --> 01:42:14,559
Speaker 1: is everybody even allowing it to get to that point?

1623
01:42:14,720 --> 01:42:17,160
Speaker 1: That's a good point. I think we need another shot

1624
01:42:20,800 --> 01:42:28,400
Speaker 1: Peter Rosenberg. We had Peter Rosenberg. Peter Rosenberg asked me,

1625
01:42:28,560 --> 01:42:32,040
Speaker 1: asked me what you read books with him too? I

1626
01:42:32,120 --> 01:42:36,519
Speaker 1: saw him on your shower and he said, he said that,

1627
01:42:38,120 --> 01:42:40,600
Speaker 1: you know, he felt like you didn't like him. He

1628
01:42:40,680 --> 01:42:44,759
Speaker 1: feelt like he said, he was an implant for Hebro

1629
01:42:45,840 --> 01:42:48,040
Speaker 1: and he admitted to it. He admitted to that ship,

1630
01:42:48,200 --> 01:42:52,120
Speaker 1: he said, and without knowing he was bitch. You knew

1631
01:42:52,120 --> 01:42:55,320
Speaker 1: you wanted to be on air, nothing else. You knew

1632
01:42:55,360 --> 01:42:58,240
Speaker 1: you wanted to be on the morning show. But I'm

1633
01:42:58,320 --> 01:43:02,800
Speaker 1: from Queens and I knew you wanted to be You

1634
01:43:02,880 --> 01:43:05,400
Speaker 1: don't know the m play. I saw the play. I

1635
01:43:05,520 --> 01:43:10,960
Speaker 1: saw the play. I newdn't want it, and so Abril

1636
01:43:11,080 --> 01:43:16,160
Speaker 1: brought him. I said, who wouldn't want? Who wouldn't want?

1637
01:43:16,240 --> 01:43:20,120
Speaker 1: The one the morning shot? And so when Abril brought

1638
01:43:20,200 --> 01:43:23,839
Speaker 1: him to my attention, I asked, he Bro, what's this background?

1639
01:43:24,080 --> 01:43:27,120
Speaker 1: Because again it's all business. I want to win. So

1640
01:43:27,280 --> 01:43:30,639
Speaker 1: whoever you bring in short of them doing a tsunami song,

1641
01:43:31,080 --> 01:43:34,080
Speaker 1: I'm here for. When he brought him in and I

1642
01:43:34,160 --> 01:43:40,640
Speaker 1: interviewed him, his credentials didn't necessarily match up with the

1643
01:43:40,760 --> 01:43:47,600
Speaker 1: position because he was making like college doovers like, what

1644
01:43:47,800 --> 01:43:51,680
Speaker 1: is it called parodies? Parodies? He's doing college parodies right,

1645
01:43:52,200 --> 01:43:54,439
Speaker 1: And I'm at a point in my because by this

1646
01:43:54,520 --> 01:43:56,360
Speaker 1: time our show has been on for at least two

1647
01:43:56,400 --> 01:44:00,320
Speaker 1: or three years. I need next level parody. It's got

1648
01:44:00,360 --> 01:44:03,400
Speaker 1: me in trouble. So as I'm talking to him and

1649
01:44:03,439 --> 01:44:06,959
Speaker 1: I'm interviewing him, and of course there's a raised eyebrow.

1650
01:44:07,760 --> 01:44:12,439
Speaker 1: So after Tsunami, let me just explain that me and

1651
01:44:12,640 --> 01:44:17,160
Speaker 1: the and and Tay had become like this because we

1652
01:44:17,240 --> 01:44:21,360
Speaker 1: realized that the evil was hired. Is Evil hired after that?

1653
01:44:21,400 --> 01:44:24,479
Speaker 1: Because Abril had been hired when tsunami happens, like the

1654
01:44:24,640 --> 01:44:27,160
Speaker 1: Empty like he used to play pool all the time.

1655
01:44:27,200 --> 01:44:32,600
Speaker 1: He was like the empty, great guy, I have no

1656
01:44:32,720 --> 01:44:39,280
Speaker 1: bad stories, like pop is like cool, No, he's good

1657
01:44:39,960 --> 01:44:45,280
Speaker 1: by the time he's the Empty's empty? Actually no, yeah,

1658
01:44:45,320 --> 01:44:48,200
Speaker 1: he's empty. And John Demic is the p d okay,

1659
01:44:48,560 --> 01:44:51,600
Speaker 1: so he comes. So he comes because the tsunami, the

1660
01:44:51,680 --> 01:44:55,040
Speaker 1: tsunami thing rocked my morning show so badly that we

1661
01:44:55,200 --> 01:44:59,679
Speaker 1: needed someone that was completely uninvolved in our shenanigans. Ebro

1662
01:45:00,200 --> 01:45:03,280
Speaker 1: enters to be and then we hired Todd Lynn and

1663
01:45:03,320 --> 01:45:06,840
Speaker 1: then we hire Garfield the comedian, just to have a

1664
01:45:06,920 --> 01:45:09,040
Speaker 1: lot of ship going on, so you guys, forget about

1665
01:45:09,560 --> 01:45:11,920
Speaker 1: all the bad things that were attached to us before

1666
01:45:12,760 --> 01:45:16,080
Speaker 1: corporate comes to him and says, you can't be p

1667
01:45:16,240 --> 01:45:19,680
Speaker 1: D or m D and beyond the morning show make

1668
01:45:19,720 --> 01:45:22,080
Speaker 1: a decision. Because so all right, so let me just

1669
01:45:22,160 --> 01:45:27,760
Speaker 1: ask you something. He's coming from California when he came out.

1670
01:45:27,880 --> 01:45:30,439
Speaker 1: I was in Philly. Tracy did that? I know what

1671
01:45:30,479 --> 01:45:32,800
Speaker 1: I'm asking you was he owned a station in California.

1672
01:45:33,000 --> 01:45:35,559
Speaker 1: He was in the UH some something in the Bay

1673
01:45:35,600 --> 01:45:37,720
Speaker 1: Area and still be in the empty and still being

1674
01:45:37,760 --> 01:45:39,760
Speaker 1: the p No, no, no, he no, he'd been quit

1675
01:45:39,880 --> 01:45:41,800
Speaker 1: that when Tracy Colton to come to New York. He

1676
01:45:41,920 --> 01:45:44,840
Speaker 1: was done with that. He was in the office at

1677
01:45:44,880 --> 01:45:47,120
Speaker 1: HoTT in the seventh but he stepped up when they

1678
01:45:47,200 --> 01:45:49,560
Speaker 1: wanted us off the air for Tsunami. So it is

1679
01:45:49,600 --> 01:45:53,120
Speaker 1: that weird because you know, this is the like Tracy

1680
01:45:53,200 --> 01:45:57,600
Speaker 1: Clarity didn't do that, these other pds didn't do that.

1681
01:45:57,840 --> 01:46:00,479
Speaker 1: Is that weird? I'm sorry, I'm I asking that you're not.

1682
01:46:01,760 --> 01:46:08,000
Speaker 1: Actually I'm sorry, because it's totally weird. It's we that's

1683
01:46:08,000 --> 01:46:11,240
Speaker 1: your program director becomes part of your morning This is

1684
01:46:11,760 --> 01:46:14,559
Speaker 1: exactly what he was talking about if you come to us,

1685
01:46:14,880 --> 01:46:26,320
Speaker 1: you know, the morning. But at that point we were

1686
01:46:26,400 --> 01:46:30,640
Speaker 1: so desperate and concerned about salvaging our show, and we

1687
01:46:30,760 --> 01:46:33,640
Speaker 1: knew that Ebro had done radio in the sack that

1688
01:46:33,760 --> 01:46:40,840
Speaker 1: We're like, we just need bot conferences by sacrament Sacramento. Sorry, sorry, um.

1689
01:46:41,160 --> 01:46:43,880
Speaker 1: He had done successful radio and Sacramento. So we just

1690
01:46:43,960 --> 01:46:47,120
Speaker 1: needed competent bodies in the room that we could trust

1691
01:46:47,720 --> 01:46:51,200
Speaker 1: to keep the engine moving forward. But it came a

1692
01:46:51,320 --> 01:46:55,120
Speaker 1: point where corporate came to him and said, you're great

1693
01:46:55,160 --> 01:46:57,560
Speaker 1: in mornings, and you're great as a program director, but

1694
01:46:57,720 --> 01:46:59,920
Speaker 1: you need to pick a side. Nigga, what you wanna?

1695
01:47:00,680 --> 01:47:02,799
Speaker 1: So he said to me, it's up to Miss Sjans

1696
01:47:03,680 --> 01:47:08,960
Speaker 1: And I said, I wonder if this is bad. I

1697
01:47:09,040 --> 01:47:11,000
Speaker 1: wanted things would have been different had I not said this.

1698
01:47:12,760 --> 01:47:16,400
Speaker 1: I wonder what you're about to say. He said, it's

1699
01:47:16,479 --> 01:47:18,599
Speaker 1: up to miss Jones. You want me on your show,

1700
01:47:18,640 --> 01:47:22,000
Speaker 1: you want me to go back to the office. Okay,

1701
01:47:22,080 --> 01:47:26,400
Speaker 1: let's just be clear. This is very big moment. But

1702
01:47:26,479 --> 01:47:29,800
Speaker 1: you're about the answer. So I want you to We're

1703
01:47:29,840 --> 01:47:36,439
Speaker 1: saying Spanish is coming because I want you to be

1704
01:47:36,600 --> 01:47:40,200
Speaker 1: clear what we said. You're saying that there was a

1705
01:47:40,400 --> 01:47:44,719
Speaker 1: time were evil had a chance to go back behind

1706
01:47:44,880 --> 01:47:50,240
Speaker 1: the deaths or be in front of the microphole. Name

1707
01:47:50,400 --> 01:47:55,360
Speaker 1: the microphone name, And he said it depends on UPTI

1708
01:47:55,360 --> 01:47:59,160
Speaker 1: miss Jones whatever she wants. And what did you say?

1709
01:48:01,320 --> 01:48:05,960
Speaker 1: You're more useful to me in the back office, so

1710
01:48:06,160 --> 01:48:13,800
Speaker 1: I can know what the white boys are thinking. But

1711
01:48:14,040 --> 01:48:21,600
Speaker 1: had Ebro. But had Ebrol told me his sincere intention

1712
01:48:22,000 --> 01:48:27,400
Speaker 1: or desire to do radios. Well, he brought in Rosenberg

1713
01:48:27,840 --> 01:48:30,280
Speaker 1: and we saw that play. It's the let me throw

1714
01:48:30,320 --> 01:48:32,479
Speaker 1: you off a big boy, And I'll put Rosenberg with

1715
01:48:32,560 --> 01:48:34,439
Speaker 1: Cipher because I know that's going to fail, and then

1716
01:48:34,479 --> 01:48:38,240
Speaker 1: I'll slide in. It will be me and Rosenberg and

1717
01:48:38,360 --> 01:48:41,920
Speaker 1: that's where they are now. But had he told me,

1718
01:48:43,520 --> 01:48:47,400
Speaker 1: but sometimes men don't want to admit to women a

1719
01:48:47,560 --> 01:48:55,640
Speaker 1: sense of power over. Do you know if I'm a

1720
01:48:55,760 --> 01:48:58,880
Speaker 1: woman and I have maybe part of your faith in

1721
01:48:59,000 --> 01:49:02,360
Speaker 1: my hands, that's like a play that you kind of

1722
01:49:02,439 --> 01:49:06,519
Speaker 1: have no control in. Women tend to be sometimes emotional.

1723
01:49:07,479 --> 01:49:11,880
Speaker 1: Jonesy even more so. I'm not sure he felt comfortable

1724
01:49:11,920 --> 01:49:13,639
Speaker 1: telling me that he really wanted to do morning radio

1725
01:49:14,600 --> 01:49:17,200
Speaker 1: alongside me, or maybe he just wanted to take it over.

1726
01:49:18,080 --> 01:49:21,240
Speaker 1: But the point is he brought Rosenberg in under the

1727
01:49:21,360 --> 01:49:25,360
Speaker 1: guise of being a producer for me when all along,

1728
01:49:25,840 --> 01:49:32,400
Speaker 1: says Regal, what's the do name? I thought about the

1729
01:49:32,479 --> 01:49:46,519
Speaker 1: dream but Anthony all right, so he broke in. He

1730
01:49:46,680 --> 01:49:54,040
Speaker 1: brought in, He brought in Rosenberg. Well, even if he

1731
01:49:54,120 --> 01:49:57,200
Speaker 1: wasn't going to be utilized as a spy, he damn sure,

1732
01:49:57,200 --> 01:50:02,320
Speaker 1: I wasn't gonna be produced. Well, that's what Rosenberg. But

1733
01:50:02,520 --> 01:50:05,840
Speaker 1: that's how they He's like, Miss Joe's ready. He did.

1734
01:50:05,960 --> 01:50:08,000
Speaker 1: He picked you up. Now I saw him. I said,

1735
01:50:10,439 --> 01:50:16,439
Speaker 1: thank you, Peter Man one dye. Never wanted to like you,

1736
01:50:16,560 --> 01:50:20,320
Speaker 1: by the way, but you have integrity. But but I

1737
01:50:20,400 --> 01:50:23,880
Speaker 1: saw the play. I'm from Queen, you know, so I

1738
01:50:24,040 --> 01:50:28,000
Speaker 1: knew you don't have producer credit. Ebro is the only

1739
01:50:28,080 --> 01:50:29,880
Speaker 1: one co signing you. Evil is the only one that

1740
01:50:30,000 --> 01:50:33,679
Speaker 1: knows you. And here you go. If Ebrol had said

1741
01:50:33,840 --> 01:50:36,040
Speaker 1: that I have interested, if Ebrol had just told me

1742
01:50:36,560 --> 01:50:40,280
Speaker 1: he wanted to do mornings, nig come on, you wrote

1743
01:50:40,320 --> 01:50:43,040
Speaker 1: when I starting Soonami, come on, you saved me. Come on.

1744
01:50:43,760 --> 01:50:45,439
Speaker 1: But he was like, oh, what's up to miss Jones?

1745
01:50:45,720 --> 01:50:48,640
Speaker 1: So here I go. Well, Nigga, I need somebody in

1746
01:50:48,680 --> 01:50:51,880
Speaker 1: the back office and tell me, what's going there? When

1747
01:50:51,920 --> 01:50:54,200
Speaker 1: he actually picked you? You you picked him in the

1748
01:50:54,240 --> 01:50:57,639
Speaker 1: back office. Was that something that he was like, Oh damn,

1749
01:50:57,720 --> 01:51:01,240
Speaker 1: it's Joe's I didn't pick him. I think you said

1750
01:51:01,280 --> 01:51:03,160
Speaker 1: you because you had a choice. You had a choice.

1751
01:51:03,439 --> 01:51:05,320
Speaker 1: Oh at that point? Oh yeah, Well I don't know

1752
01:51:05,479 --> 01:51:08,360
Speaker 1: what do you think? I don't know what you were

1753
01:51:08,400 --> 01:51:10,760
Speaker 1: doing whatever he might have been doing with Rosenberg in

1754
01:51:11,120 --> 01:51:13,920
Speaker 1: all honesty, but what should I have done? I don't

1755
01:51:13,960 --> 01:51:16,120
Speaker 1: know how to better have played that because I'm feeling

1756
01:51:16,200 --> 01:51:19,160
Speaker 1: like me and Ebral were cool, like Ebrol knows like

1757
01:51:19,240 --> 01:51:20,960
Speaker 1: he knows all that, he knows where the body is

1758
01:51:20,960 --> 01:51:23,120
Speaker 1: a burn with me. So if you're feeling that you

1759
01:51:23,200 --> 01:51:25,240
Speaker 1: want to do mornings, nigga telling me because they asked

1760
01:51:25,280 --> 01:51:28,080
Speaker 1: Corporate wants me to give them an answer, and he's like, no,

1761
01:51:28,600 --> 01:51:33,920
Speaker 1: it's completely your decision. Actually, he's the p D at

1762
01:51:33,960 --> 01:51:38,320
Speaker 1: the time, and and and I didn't feel ever like

1763
01:51:38,520 --> 01:51:40,439
Speaker 1: he was my p D. I was felt like Ebral

1764
01:51:40,520 --> 01:51:43,880
Speaker 1: always made me feel like we were like creative equals.

1765
01:51:46,280 --> 01:51:48,519
Speaker 1: So I'm feeling like he would have told me because

1766
01:51:48,560 --> 01:51:50,720
Speaker 1: I used to tell him stuff that I need that

1767
01:51:50,760 --> 01:51:54,000
Speaker 1: billboard or Ebron, you know, can I get this, So

1768
01:51:54,120 --> 01:51:55,760
Speaker 1: I figured he would have told me if he really

1769
01:51:55,800 --> 01:51:59,880
Speaker 1: wanted to land on mornings, but he never did. And

1770
01:52:00,120 --> 01:52:04,280
Speaker 1: so I'm seeing Rosenberg. You are coming out of nowhere, bitch, please,

1771
01:52:06,400 --> 01:52:19,200
Speaker 1: I'm no by So let's just say yeah, exactly, another

1772
01:52:19,280 --> 01:52:24,680
Speaker 1: drink a shot, not bit. This is the one you

1773
01:52:24,760 --> 01:52:28,639
Speaker 1: want to talk to yourself too, But this is your show,

1774
01:52:29,640 --> 01:52:34,800
Speaker 1: jes No, you're helping me figure out my life. You are.

1775
01:52:35,000 --> 01:52:36,479
Speaker 1: You are figuring it out on your own. You just

1776
01:52:36,560 --> 01:52:39,679
Speaker 1: talk to yourself, and it's amazing my therapist that I'd

1777
01:52:39,680 --> 01:52:41,040
Speaker 1: be having a lot of ship in my head. I

1778
01:52:41,120 --> 01:52:42,920
Speaker 1: just need to sort it out. So can I come

1779
01:52:42,960 --> 01:52:46,920
Speaker 1: here like once a month in your let's do it?

1780
01:52:47,000 --> 01:52:48,400
Speaker 1: One of the people you put on? I got. I

1781
01:52:48,439 --> 01:52:51,200
Speaker 1: gotta note of this ship. Hold on, I love it.

1782
01:52:51,600 --> 01:52:54,280
Speaker 1: I'm trying to get checks out of the hold on. Yeah,

1783
01:52:55,080 --> 01:52:58,920
Speaker 1: who who you holding over? Bro? Why you didn't tell me?

1784
01:52:59,320 --> 01:53:03,800
Speaker 1: Bro in the mean produce a way better than Rosenberg.

1785
01:53:03,880 --> 01:53:06,200
Speaker 1: Let me tell you on the meantime. Hold in the meantime,

1786
01:53:06,240 --> 01:53:08,240
Speaker 1: I was trying. I have like three different numbers. I'm

1787
01:53:08,240 --> 01:53:11,160
Speaker 1: only love right, So the one I decided to text

1788
01:53:11,840 --> 01:53:16,120
Speaker 1: FaceTime on drink shop with Mrs Jones. Cool, we're talking

1789
01:53:16,160 --> 01:53:24,880
Speaker 1: about Tupac stories present, wrong number. Motherfucker will never that's one.

1790
01:53:25,439 --> 01:53:34,559
Speaker 1: That's one of those things. Yeah, she gave Rosenberg, Donnell Rollers,

1791
01:53:35,240 --> 01:53:45,120
Speaker 1: Stephen A. Smith, Mike Show, Toddling, Yeah, and all nother

1792
01:53:45,200 --> 01:53:47,840
Speaker 1: motherfucker's is working and I'm trying to get back in.

1793
01:53:48,520 --> 01:53:50,639
Speaker 1: They all you got, damn you let to both your boss,

1794
01:53:51,040 --> 01:53:58,120
Speaker 1: you gotta they gotta come, they go. But whoa, all right?

1795
01:53:58,200 --> 01:54:01,559
Speaker 1: All right? We spoke about Stephen A. Smith, Donnell Rolls.

1796
01:54:01,880 --> 01:54:05,160
Speaker 1: You worked the Donnelle before he met Chappelle? M hm?

1797
01:54:05,600 --> 01:54:08,680
Speaker 1: Or did he meet Chappelle? He just wasn't lit. He

1798
01:54:08,840 --> 01:54:11,599
Speaker 1: just can't. How do met Donaille? Roll? No, I think

1799
01:54:12,520 --> 01:54:16,120
Speaker 1: he wasn't actually Larry then. I think he had been

1800
01:54:16,120 --> 01:54:21,360
Speaker 1: actually Larry then. I don't think no. And so Danelle

1801
01:54:21,479 --> 01:54:24,519
Speaker 1: has a so I love comedy, I love laughing, I

1802
01:54:24,600 --> 01:54:28,719
Speaker 1: love but Donnelle has a very specific and direct sort

1803
01:54:28,760 --> 01:54:33,480
Speaker 1: of comedy and it didn't always translate on radio and

1804
01:54:33,680 --> 01:54:39,760
Speaker 1: morning radio more specifically, because just like late night talk

1805
01:54:40,240 --> 01:54:43,080
Speaker 1: is different than the view and talk and all those

1806
01:54:44,600 --> 01:54:47,920
Speaker 1: you have to I can't describe it, but that's just

1807
01:54:48,040 --> 01:54:51,240
Speaker 1: a certain element you have to know what works for

1808
01:54:51,680 --> 01:54:56,320
Speaker 1: that day part. And so Donelle, as talented as he

1809
01:54:56,440 --> 01:54:59,320
Speaker 1: might have been for maybe a nighttime show, I just

1810
01:54:59,360 --> 01:55:03,040
Speaker 1: didn't feel like it. Always showed up for mornings and

1811
01:55:03,160 --> 01:55:06,000
Speaker 1: then he would get upset. He would get mad and

1812
01:55:07,400 --> 01:55:10,640
Speaker 1: me and he would take bets about whether or not

1813
01:55:10,880 --> 01:55:15,280
Speaker 1: he could read copies without making the stakes, and that

1814
01:55:15,520 --> 01:55:20,640
Speaker 1: didn't help the club to this day. Serious serious, I

1815
01:55:20,680 --> 01:55:26,560
Speaker 1: think from you guys, because is like partners with him

1816
01:55:27,240 --> 01:55:29,440
Speaker 1: right for angels, I think the one excluded from the

1817
01:55:29,520 --> 01:55:37,400
Speaker 1: beef get to you, you said, Dondell, you and interview

1818
01:55:37,520 --> 01:55:41,000
Speaker 1: was the first person who put Donnell continued about that.

1819
01:55:41,320 --> 01:55:43,400
Speaker 1: And so like he would come, he would show up

1820
01:55:43,440 --> 01:55:46,880
Speaker 1: to work and like we try to let him do

1821
01:55:47,000 --> 01:55:49,160
Speaker 1: his thing in the confines of we still got to

1822
01:55:49,160 --> 01:55:51,160
Speaker 1: do a show. It's not like us a one man

1823
01:55:51,840 --> 01:55:55,400
Speaker 1: stand up. He would get upset. He would get really

1824
01:55:55,520 --> 01:55:59,680
Speaker 1: like like upset, upset, like like it's like just In

1825
01:55:59,760 --> 01:56:05,280
Speaker 1: Bereen breaks. Yeah, very emotional, but very talented, and most

1826
01:56:05,440 --> 01:56:09,160
Speaker 1: artists are emotional. So I got it. But nigga, it's

1827
01:56:09,160 --> 01:56:11,800
Speaker 1: a four hour show. I'm not sure. Let's just get

1828
01:56:11,840 --> 01:56:14,440
Speaker 1: the fucking white people's checks. Why are you going all out?

1829
01:56:16,320 --> 01:56:19,920
Speaker 1: And so he looked at it as maybe a woman

1830
01:56:20,480 --> 01:56:22,920
Speaker 1: telling him what he should be doing as opposed to

1831
01:56:23,000 --> 01:56:26,120
Speaker 1: what he was doing, or Jones, and who the fuck

1832
01:56:26,160 --> 01:56:28,320
Speaker 1: is she? She's not. I don't know, well I know.

1833
01:56:28,840 --> 01:56:33,920
Speaker 1: All's I know is that day he did something and

1834
01:56:34,120 --> 01:56:37,880
Speaker 1: it wound up melting down and Ebro couldn't fix it,

1835
01:56:38,000 --> 01:56:40,720
Speaker 1: and Envy who's the fixer. He's like the Olivia Pope

1836
01:56:40,760 --> 01:56:44,440
Speaker 1: of radio. Couldn't fix it. He walked off the show

1837
01:56:44,480 --> 01:56:47,480
Speaker 1: and that was it, and I was like, good ricks. Now,

1838
01:56:47,560 --> 01:56:56,080
Speaker 1: in hindsight, great talent. Never said anything personally bad to

1839
01:56:56,200 --> 01:57:00,600
Speaker 1: me or offensive to my family. It just didn't work

1840
01:57:00,680 --> 01:57:03,560
Speaker 1: for what we were already under the thing of tsunami.

1841
01:57:03,640 --> 01:57:05,200
Speaker 1: We were trying to build back, we were trying to

1842
01:57:05,240 --> 01:57:08,160
Speaker 1: prove ourselves were trying and I can't have somebody fighting

1843
01:57:08,200 --> 01:57:10,200
Speaker 1: with me every day when I'm telling you what we

1844
01:57:10,280 --> 01:57:14,680
Speaker 1: need to be doing for the people Donna Rawlins and me.

1845
01:57:14,920 --> 01:57:20,120
Speaker 1: So I fired him. I fired him. I'm not sure

1846
01:57:20,120 --> 01:57:21,800
Speaker 1: if we made noise for that. Just say no, you

1847
01:57:21,800 --> 01:57:28,160
Speaker 1: don't make noise for the firing. Come on, we're not

1848
01:57:28,280 --> 01:57:31,720
Speaker 1: making noise for firing something. I'm sorry even though you

1849
01:57:31,840 --> 01:57:37,840
Speaker 1: did it. He got me back though, three weeks ago,

1850
01:57:38,200 --> 01:57:44,920
Speaker 1: me and Wendy. Three weeks ago, we went to Dona

1851
01:57:45,080 --> 01:57:48,360
Speaker 1: Rawlins did Carolines opened up for the first time the company,

1852
01:57:48,680 --> 01:57:51,160
Speaker 1: and she called the gust Chelsey, this is why you

1853
01:57:51,240 --> 01:57:54,560
Speaker 1: need to move back to New York. Dona Rawlins. Wendy's

1854
01:57:54,680 --> 01:58:04,720
Speaker 1: calling you after the murder hit. So everything best, That's

1855
01:58:04,760 --> 01:58:08,880
Speaker 1: what Andy said, and he's like, whenever I go to

1856
01:58:09,000 --> 01:58:11,920
Speaker 1: Wendy's house, He's like, okay, we'll just call me and

1857
01:58:12,000 --> 01:58:14,560
Speaker 1: even I gotta it might be the last time, right,

1858
01:58:15,840 --> 01:58:17,760
Speaker 1: he said, you feel I feel like you're my daughter

1859
01:58:17,840 --> 01:58:22,880
Speaker 1: going to the prom. I'm on waiting like. So she

1860
01:58:23,080 --> 01:58:27,880
Speaker 1: calls and she's like, Caroline is open open. This is

1861
01:58:27,880 --> 01:58:30,200
Speaker 1: why you need to move to New York. I want

1862
01:58:30,240 --> 01:58:38,600
Speaker 1: to go see do and how long will it take

1863
01:58:38,600 --> 01:58:41,360
Speaker 1: for you to get here? So I'm like, it's your

1864
01:58:41,440 --> 01:58:44,400
Speaker 1: lucky day, bitch, because it's Thursday, and Thursday I hate

1865
01:58:44,480 --> 01:58:47,720
Speaker 1: my show with Queen's Flip Me and Miss Jones on

1866
01:58:47,840 --> 01:58:52,360
Speaker 1: the Queen's Flip. Um, I'm drinking a lot whatever whatever

1867
01:58:52,560 --> 01:58:56,640
Speaker 1: we beg Yeah, already in the city. She don't know

1868
01:58:56,680 --> 01:58:59,520
Speaker 1: I'm already in New York. So she's like, my driver's

1869
01:58:59,560 --> 01:59:01,400
Speaker 1: down still airs like, you know when you get here.

1870
01:59:01,840 --> 01:59:05,160
Speaker 1: So we go to Carolines. When we get there, we're

1871
01:59:05,160 --> 01:59:07,240
Speaker 1: a little late, like a lot of late. But so

1872
01:59:07,720 --> 01:59:09,560
Speaker 1: they asked, do you want to sit here or do

1873
01:59:09,560 --> 01:59:12,320
Speaker 1: you want to sit up front? You know, I'm up front, bitch,

1874
01:59:12,560 --> 01:59:15,360
Speaker 1: I've been at home for like So she's like, let's go.

1875
01:59:15,640 --> 01:59:18,120
Speaker 1: We sit up front and Donnell Rowlands stops the show

1876
01:59:18,200 --> 01:59:23,320
Speaker 1: to go is that Ms Jones my former boss that

1877
01:59:23,440 --> 01:59:27,560
Speaker 1: fired me? When your boss shows up to your new gig?

1878
01:59:29,080 --> 01:59:33,360
Speaker 1: So he got me, he got me. I mean he

1879
01:59:34,160 --> 01:59:36,280
Speaker 1: made a few jobs, but I was like, just make

1880
01:59:36,320 --> 01:59:40,280
Speaker 1: sure you're funny tonight, nigga. He didn't go hard. Thank

1881
01:59:40,320 --> 01:59:46,200
Speaker 1: you for not going hard because Wendy about Wendy, but

1882
01:59:46,320 --> 01:59:48,400
Speaker 1: he said, well, so people will go with how do

1883
01:59:48,480 --> 01:59:50,400
Speaker 1: you doing? With everybody in the audience was going how

1884
01:59:50,440 --> 01:59:51,840
Speaker 1: are you doing? When we So by the time we

1885
01:59:51,920 --> 01:59:53,800
Speaker 1: set at our table, which is right in front of

1886
01:59:53,840 --> 01:59:59,520
Speaker 1: the same so he's like, hen Wendy Williams. So everyone

1887
01:59:59,640 --> 02:00:03,360
Speaker 1: stands off and they're applauding, and they can't believe it

1888
02:00:03,560 --> 02:00:09,000
Speaker 1: because last they heard she was trying to all right,

1889
02:00:09,040 --> 02:00:11,360
Speaker 1: but let's be clear, that's the crowd of how they

1890
02:00:11,480 --> 02:00:15,080
Speaker 1: feel how do you feel with your ex murder? So

1891
02:00:15,280 --> 02:00:21,640
Speaker 1: mea when so so so I said that wrong together.

1892
02:00:24,520 --> 02:00:27,320
Speaker 1: I did not mean like that. But even if this

1893
02:00:27,480 --> 02:00:30,520
Speaker 1: is allegedly, if it's not allegedly, this is a story

1894
02:00:30,600 --> 02:00:34,840
Speaker 1: that brewed in the goddamn public eye. And you said,

1895
02:00:34,880 --> 02:00:37,240
Speaker 1: I believe that. Let's be honest, I said, but I

1896
02:00:37,360 --> 02:00:39,360
Speaker 1: felt at the time that my husband, who I told you,

1897
02:00:39,480 --> 02:00:41,520
Speaker 1: was in the streets and he was cool. He was

1898
02:00:41,560 --> 02:00:43,920
Speaker 1: like he died it right, And I never heard anything

1899
02:00:43,960 --> 02:00:47,080
Speaker 1: anymore blowback. Him and keV knew each other. Well, they

1900
02:00:47,160 --> 02:00:52,120
Speaker 1: got to know whoever my ex husband knew that touched keV.

1901
02:00:53,000 --> 02:00:56,440
Speaker 1: Supposedly keV was touched and the problem was touched. Like

1902
02:00:56,480 --> 02:00:59,840
Speaker 1: stop it right, I'm sorry, I don't know what tested me,

1903
02:01:00,280 --> 02:01:10,640
Speaker 1: and let's stop it. Let's stop it right right. You

1904
02:01:10,760 --> 02:01:14,800
Speaker 1: need to stop it, man, I've been stopped in a

1905
02:01:14,880 --> 02:01:30,200
Speaker 1: long time, teacher, you know. So it really fully forgives

1906
02:01:30,880 --> 02:01:34,280
Speaker 1: Wendy even thinking a long no, I didn't. Here's what happened.

1907
02:01:34,800 --> 02:01:37,960
Speaker 1: So long. I love your artist. No funk her because

1908
02:01:38,960 --> 02:01:46,080
Speaker 1: no no fun her, because no funk Wendy. Because here's

1909
02:01:46,120 --> 02:01:50,320
Speaker 1: the thing. So after all these years, right, she never

1910
02:01:50,520 --> 02:01:53,880
Speaker 1: bothered after Kevin did all that ship that he did,

1911
02:01:54,400 --> 02:01:56,600
Speaker 1: and you knew what Kevil you do. Kevin's come back.

1912
02:01:57,760 --> 02:02:00,120
Speaker 1: I told Wendy the day I met Kevin, because she

1913
02:02:00,360 --> 02:02:03,640
Speaker 1: asked me to come and prove him. And when she

1914
02:02:03,840 --> 02:02:07,200
Speaker 1: got out of the car to go into the store. No,

1915
02:02:07,360 --> 02:02:09,800
Speaker 1: he wasn't, but he was like, yeah, I said, you know,

1916
02:02:09,880 --> 02:02:14,000
Speaker 1: Wendy's gonna be big one day. She can't have regular

1917
02:02:14,080 --> 02:02:18,600
Speaker 1: nigger handling. You need to step it up, he said,

1918
02:02:18,720 --> 02:02:20,480
Speaker 1: I know. And when she blow up, I'm gonna be

1919
02:02:20,600 --> 02:02:23,520
Speaker 1: right there. You ain't got to tell me twice what

1920
02:02:23,640 --> 02:02:28,280
Speaker 1: that looks like. But I told Wendy, and I guess

1921
02:02:28,320 --> 02:02:31,160
Speaker 1: she was like, it doesn't matter. Jones, he probably had

1922
02:02:31,200 --> 02:02:40,040
Speaker 1: so much more. I'm marrying him, and so you know,

1923
02:02:40,280 --> 02:02:41,960
Speaker 1: as a friend, you're like, you don't want to be

1924
02:02:42,040 --> 02:02:44,600
Speaker 1: that bitch that's be like, no, don't fucking marry him

1925
02:02:44,800 --> 02:02:48,400
Speaker 1: page No. So I was actually at the engagement party,

1926
02:02:49,320 --> 02:02:52,640
Speaker 1: and so he put wedges between us throughout the years.

1927
02:02:53,080 --> 02:02:55,400
Speaker 1: You know, whatever I did, she was on BLS. She

1928
02:02:55,440 --> 02:02:59,160
Speaker 1: would take jabs whatever her and star enemy of my

1929
02:02:59,360 --> 02:03:04,560
Speaker 1: enemy is my friend. Everybody tore me down. But after

1930
02:03:05,600 --> 02:03:10,520
Speaker 1: her divorce, which is recent, and her mom passed away,

1931
02:03:10,600 --> 02:03:15,840
Speaker 1: which is also recent. Yeah, and then I came back

1932
02:03:16,320 --> 02:03:19,480
Speaker 1: on the scene in February. So I'm on i G

1933
02:03:19,720 --> 02:03:24,240
Speaker 1: Live and someone asked about the murder and I'm telling them.

1934
02:03:24,960 --> 02:03:33,280
Speaker 1: Someone added, Mr c don't ask me why what theams?

1935
02:03:35,040 --> 02:03:38,360
Speaker 1: So somebody in that live, some random person added him.

1936
02:03:38,440 --> 02:03:41,480
Speaker 1: Next thing I know, he's requesting to be camped up.

1937
02:03:42,400 --> 02:03:48,560
Speaker 1: That's okay that and so I camped him up. He's like,

1938
02:03:49,080 --> 02:03:51,520
Speaker 1: what happened with what you'all talking about Wendy? And I

1939
02:03:51,640 --> 02:03:55,400
Speaker 1: told him, I said, I never got resolved, like why

1940
02:03:55,440 --> 02:03:59,360
Speaker 1: would you let that nigga and like influence you to

1941
02:03:59,480 --> 02:04:04,760
Speaker 1: have me taken out? Because even if he wasn't ve children,

1942
02:04:05,400 --> 02:04:10,000
Speaker 1: saying like keV influence Mrs Mrs Mr was down. No,

1943
02:04:10,200 --> 02:04:12,560
Speaker 1: he knew no, no, we all knew what seven what

1944
02:04:12,640 --> 02:04:14,280
Speaker 1: Kevin Wendy was doing because they might be less at

1945
02:04:14,320 --> 02:04:19,600
Speaker 1: the time. And so I said, anybody trying to get

1946
02:04:19,760 --> 02:04:22,520
Speaker 1: in favor with Kevin or Wendy could have taken that

1947
02:04:22,720 --> 02:04:26,440
Speaker 1: murder thing seriously and killed me or my kids just

1948
02:04:26,520 --> 02:04:31,400
Speaker 1: trying to get someone down with them fired by whatever

1949
02:04:31,840 --> 02:04:34,160
Speaker 1: was talking somebody to say, what are you doing all day?

1950
02:04:34,280 --> 02:04:40,520
Speaker 1: Like you know, doing right? Right? Anybody. So he said, um,

1951
02:04:41,760 --> 02:04:44,400
Speaker 1: a lot of ships that Wendy. A lot of ship

1952
02:04:44,520 --> 02:04:47,320
Speaker 1: was Kevin and not so much Wendy. He said, when

1953
02:04:47,360 --> 02:04:49,480
Speaker 1: obviously Mr C is saying when I did what I

1954
02:04:49,600 --> 02:04:53,600
Speaker 1: did with the transvest sides, and allegedly it was all Kevin.

1955
02:04:54,080 --> 02:04:56,920
Speaker 1: Wait that get involved in this, because he's on the

1956
02:04:57,040 --> 02:04:59,520
Speaker 1: live saying he's trying to explain to me that it

1957
02:04:59,560 --> 02:05:03,640
Speaker 1: wasn't Dy, was more Kevin. That Kevin was pushing Wendy

1958
02:05:03,920 --> 02:05:10,640
Speaker 1: to push that whole transsexualstor whatever the funker was narrative, Yeah,

1959
02:05:11,000 --> 02:05:15,840
Speaker 1: because because listen, you'll get it. When Wendy went to

1960
02:05:15,880 --> 02:05:20,680
Speaker 1: Blast She's opposite of Hot ninety seven, keV allegedly wanted Mr.

1961
02:05:20,800 --> 02:05:23,920
Speaker 1: She to keep riding with Wendy season the contract at

1962
02:05:24,000 --> 02:05:27,680
Speaker 1: Hot so he can't. keV gets mad. So now Kevi

1963
02:05:27,880 --> 02:05:30,800
Speaker 1: hates Mr C. Let me put a battery and my

1964
02:05:30,960 --> 02:05:38,240
Speaker 1: wife's back to talk about Mr She talk about put

1965
02:05:38,280 --> 02:05:45,840
Speaker 1: that out right. So she used to say dj U,

1966
02:05:46,760 --> 02:05:50,560
Speaker 1: which we know dj is dj Mr C, and she

1967
02:05:50,600 --> 02:05:53,160
Speaker 1: would say all the stuff. But to the point when

1968
02:05:53,200 --> 02:05:55,760
Speaker 1: he came on that live that night with Me and

1969
02:05:55,920 --> 02:05:59,680
Speaker 1: Queens Flip, he said, a lot of that ship was

1970
02:05:59,720 --> 02:06:02,200
Speaker 1: not Andy was Kevin, and I know it's easy to

1971
02:06:02,360 --> 02:06:04,800
Speaker 1: like blame Wendy now because she's going through this whole

1972
02:06:04,840 --> 02:06:08,760
Speaker 1: public humiliation about blah blah. But I think if you

1973
02:06:08,840 --> 02:06:11,880
Speaker 1: and Wendy would talk, y'all could find some resolve and

1974
02:06:12,000 --> 02:06:14,480
Speaker 1: either decide to be friends again or to walk away.

1975
02:06:15,680 --> 02:06:17,600
Speaker 1: So he said, do you want me to call her?

1976
02:06:17,640 --> 02:06:21,560
Speaker 1: And I'm like, sure, whatever. He calls her, and he

1977
02:06:22,000 --> 02:06:24,160
Speaker 1: and and I guess it was a great conversation because

1978
02:06:24,200 --> 02:06:26,040
Speaker 1: he calls me and goes, I don't know you was

1979
02:06:26,080 --> 02:06:28,760
Speaker 1: at her engagement party. She wants to talk to you.

1980
02:06:29,200 --> 02:06:31,200
Speaker 1: She's like, oh, Joe, I want to say, oh my god,

1981
02:06:31,240 --> 02:06:32,680
Speaker 1: oh my god. So he goes, so I gave her

1982
02:06:32,680 --> 02:06:36,880
Speaker 1: your number, she's gonna call so me, I call Endy.

1983
02:06:37,640 --> 02:06:41,320
Speaker 1: Mike Sewan and like Wendy's supposedly gonna call me by

1984
02:06:41,360 --> 02:06:44,760
Speaker 1: blah blah blah. As we're talking, she beats in on

1985
02:06:44,880 --> 02:06:47,440
Speaker 1: the other line, so I clicked all It's just like,

1986
02:06:48,240 --> 02:06:51,840
Speaker 1: oh my god, Jos, I've missed you so much. How

1987
02:06:51,920 --> 02:06:53,920
Speaker 1: are you what's going on? And then we talked for

1988
02:06:54,000 --> 02:06:57,200
Speaker 1: like three hours, and then two days later she calls

1989
02:06:57,240 --> 02:06:59,760
Speaker 1: and she's like, bitch, I'm on my way to your house,

1990
02:07:00,040 --> 02:07:03,160
Speaker 1: and I'm like, bitch, you ain't got my address, Just

1991
02:07:03,360 --> 02:07:06,000
Speaker 1: like bitch I needed because we're close, So give her

1992
02:07:06,000 --> 02:07:08,440
Speaker 1: the address. She pulls up to my house and we

1993
02:07:08,600 --> 02:07:12,600
Speaker 1: sit there for like four hours. No in Jersey where

1994
02:07:12,600 --> 02:07:15,760
Speaker 1: I live now. She pulls up to the house. He's

1995
02:07:15,800 --> 02:07:18,400
Speaker 1: at boarding school, but he still has my ring app

1996
02:07:18,640 --> 02:07:22,160
Speaker 1: on his phone, so he sees every man, every woman

1997
02:07:22,360 --> 02:07:26,920
Speaker 1: coming in and out of mommy's house. Yeah, so he's like, yo,

1998
02:07:28,040 --> 02:07:30,880
Speaker 1: is that aunt Wendy? And she comes in and we

1999
02:07:31,080 --> 02:07:35,600
Speaker 1: talk and and it just was like it's even though,

2000
02:07:37,080 --> 02:07:43,360
Speaker 1: because when that phone murdering, it's not murdering. Yeah. Yeah,

2001
02:07:43,600 --> 02:07:45,480
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie. When I google that ship, I

2002
02:07:45,720 --> 02:07:48,080
Speaker 1: was like, show shot because I remember it back in

2003
02:07:48,160 --> 02:07:50,960
Speaker 1: the days when I had to google you because get

2004
02:07:51,000 --> 02:07:53,400
Speaker 1: my friend and I love you just cause you don't

2005
02:07:53,400 --> 02:07:56,680
Speaker 1: know people. Yeah. So when I looked at it, I

2006
02:07:56,800 --> 02:07:58,840
Speaker 1: was like, damn, but what did they get that I

2007
02:07:59,040 --> 02:08:03,720
Speaker 1: really did? One of the Andy won't and he's like, oh, yeah, okay, whatever,

2008
02:08:03,960 --> 02:08:06,080
Speaker 1: I still got my I Wendy Vy won't let it go.

2009
02:08:06,800 --> 02:08:10,200
Speaker 1: He's like, damn, I don't want to ask this question.

2010
02:08:10,880 --> 02:08:14,880
Speaker 1: People need more friends like Envy. Yeah, big, by the way,

2011
02:08:16,840 --> 02:08:21,280
Speaker 1: but because the next week she invited me to spend

2012
02:08:21,320 --> 02:08:24,920
Speaker 1: the night at her house, and you did. He said,

2013
02:08:25,920 --> 02:08:29,920
Speaker 1: you call me at the first sign of she's trying

2014
02:08:29,960 --> 02:08:33,920
Speaker 1: to get you to take something on one or be

2015
02:08:34,080 --> 02:08:36,560
Speaker 1: with somebody you ain't interested in. And I think it's

2016
02:08:36,600 --> 02:08:39,720
Speaker 1: probably obvious now that she she personally wasn't trying to

2017
02:08:39,840 --> 02:08:42,200
Speaker 1: kill you. Yeah. No, And she said that it was

2018
02:08:42,280 --> 02:08:45,720
Speaker 1: an afterthought, which I would have thought this conversation. I

2019
02:08:45,760 --> 02:08:48,040
Speaker 1: actually did say we did, but it wasn't. It wasn't

2020
02:08:48,080 --> 02:08:50,840
Speaker 1: like she led with it, which I would have appreciated

2021
02:08:50,920 --> 02:08:53,040
Speaker 1: more for her to lead with it, by the way, Jones.

2022
02:08:53,320 --> 02:08:56,240
Speaker 1: But it was, by the way Jones. You know, Kevin

2023
02:08:56,320 --> 02:08:58,360
Speaker 1: was never really trying to kill you. He was just angry.

2024
02:08:59,000 --> 02:09:01,440
Speaker 1: So he said, when's this report come out in the

2025
02:09:01,520 --> 02:09:08,000
Speaker 1: New York Times. I this wasn't like two thousand, maybe

2026
02:09:08,080 --> 02:09:13,000
Speaker 1: nine or ten. And the lawyer representing Wendy's intern that

2027
02:09:13,120 --> 02:09:18,440
Speaker 1: was suing Wendy and Kevin, Kenneth Johnson, Kenneth, I forget

2028
02:09:18,480 --> 02:09:21,280
Speaker 1: his name. He called and said, I just want to

2029
02:09:21,360 --> 02:09:23,480
Speaker 1: let you know that Wendy, her husband was trying to

2030
02:09:23,600 --> 02:09:29,520
Speaker 1: murder you. That's pretty Kenneth Thompson, but he was representing

2031
02:09:29,560 --> 02:09:32,400
Speaker 1: the girl that was suing Wendy and Kevin. So I said,

2032
02:09:32,480 --> 02:09:36,480
Speaker 1: Fitch Wild, when you tell me intentuality to my clients, Yeah,

2033
02:09:37,640 --> 02:09:44,600
Speaker 1: that's he sucked me around so much in this it's bad. Really,

2034
02:09:47,760 --> 02:09:50,520
Speaker 1: Why don't we stay? Why do we are saying in

2035
02:09:50,640 --> 02:09:58,360
Speaker 1: these songs they want kid with the press relation, We

2036
02:09:58,560 --> 02:10:01,080
Speaker 1: just want our case because when they and Kevin by

2037
02:10:01,120 --> 02:10:05,040
Speaker 1: the way, they're coming to get you tonight. So and again,

2038
02:10:05,120 --> 02:10:07,720
Speaker 1: I'm in my own personal turmoil with my own life.

2039
02:10:07,760 --> 02:10:09,520
Speaker 1: So I'm like that because I'm not on the scene

2040
02:10:09,520 --> 02:10:12,920
Speaker 1: at that point. I'm like whatever, whatever. But when we met,

2041
02:10:12,960 --> 02:10:18,520
Speaker 1: when she came to my house, she cried, and she

2042
02:10:18,600 --> 02:10:21,160
Speaker 1: come to the house with bodyguards and bodyguards staying outside.

2043
02:10:21,240 --> 02:10:27,160
Speaker 1: She's she didn't have no, no, it was it should

2044
02:10:27,200 --> 02:10:29,000
Speaker 1: have been because she didn't know what she was walking into.

2045
02:10:29,680 --> 02:10:34,120
Speaker 1: It was just a driver and me and pop up.

2046
02:10:34,360 --> 02:10:36,680
Speaker 1: And so I'm in the house sweating like a freaking

2047
02:10:36,760 --> 02:10:40,720
Speaker 1: and I'm clean, sweeping tables, like is a little part

2048
02:10:40,760 --> 02:10:43,200
Speaker 1: of you saying you know what? This bit to kill me?

2049
02:10:43,200 --> 02:10:45,000
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, no, no, no, no, no, I'm just saying

2050
02:10:45,120 --> 02:10:47,280
Speaker 1: she felt she's I never thought that she would ever

2051
02:10:47,360 --> 02:10:49,960
Speaker 1: be built. Because anyone that saves you when you need

2052
02:10:50,040 --> 02:10:54,000
Speaker 1: a job, your life is in jeopardy. That that to me,

2053
02:10:54,280 --> 02:10:56,880
Speaker 1: that proceeded anything anyone could have ever told me, which

2054
02:10:56,880 --> 02:10:59,120
Speaker 1: is why people say, now, why are you her friend?

2055
02:10:59,240 --> 02:11:01,960
Speaker 1: Because when I was about to like not know where

2056
02:11:02,000 --> 02:11:03,800
Speaker 1: I was going to get a check from. All right,

2057
02:11:03,840 --> 02:11:09,520
Speaker 1: but this is after because you lived, right, she walks

2058
02:11:09,560 --> 02:11:11,880
Speaker 1: in your house. This is the first thing she says,

2059
02:11:12,200 --> 02:11:16,040
Speaker 1: that's bullshit. No, she starts showing me how her titties

2060
02:11:16,080 --> 02:11:18,360
Speaker 1: sit out without a pencil dropping underneath. That's what you

2061
02:11:18,400 --> 02:11:20,760
Speaker 1: guys talking about. No, I didn't say anything. She walks

2062
02:11:20,800 --> 02:11:23,760
Speaker 1: in and she goes, kids on, Wenday's here, and then

2063
02:11:23,840 --> 02:11:26,720
Speaker 1: she twirls around like wonder Wendy, and she goes look

2064
02:11:26,760 --> 02:11:30,720
Speaker 1: at my body and she's and then she goes, come in, Jones,

2065
02:11:30,840 --> 02:11:33,240
Speaker 1: bring it in, and then we hug and she's like,

2066
02:11:33,920 --> 02:11:36,240
Speaker 1: what are we drinking? What are we doing? And I'm like,

2067
02:11:36,480 --> 02:11:39,080
Speaker 1: you want the Hennessy. She's like all day, So we're

2068
02:11:39,120 --> 02:11:43,200
Speaker 1: going to live room. So does she Wendy would do

2069
02:11:43,280 --> 02:11:45,600
Speaker 1: great on drink champs? Yes, she would do great. Yeah,

2070
02:11:45,640 --> 02:11:53,080
Speaker 1: I have her one stop it up. This is story.

2071
02:11:53,200 --> 02:11:57,120
Speaker 1: So she's like, so it's kind of like it feels

2072
02:11:57,160 --> 02:11:59,320
Speaker 1: like someone you haven't spoken to, but you pick right

2073
02:11:59,360 --> 02:12:02,760
Speaker 1: up where you left off. So she's talking about but

2074
02:12:02,800 --> 02:12:04,640
Speaker 1: it's a lot of people ain't speaking to and I

2075
02:12:04,680 --> 02:12:07,040
Speaker 1: can pick up where I left off. They don't got

2076
02:12:07,080 --> 02:12:09,760
Speaker 1: an article about murder. They didn't got to murdering your buddy,

2077
02:12:10,200 --> 02:12:16,080
Speaker 1: just murders. Just go too, Hong. You don't want us

2078
02:12:16,080 --> 02:12:25,440
Speaker 1: to stop for one second? Right there, right there, all right,

2079
02:12:25,480 --> 02:12:28,080
Speaker 1: I might as well. We got fat in me on

2080
02:12:28,160 --> 02:12:33,360
Speaker 1: the phone. Hold on around, hold on, holo, holo, hold

2081
02:12:33,440 --> 02:12:40,400
Speaker 1: hold on, hold on with miss Joe. Joe he's here,

2082
02:12:40,520 --> 02:12:44,680
Speaker 1: live on the phone. Yes, yes, he's alive on the phone. Here,

2083
02:12:44,720 --> 02:12:47,440
Speaker 1: come over here, come over here. You know you see

2084
02:12:47,440 --> 02:12:49,440
Speaker 1: I got my college in on. You know, you know,

2085
02:12:50,240 --> 02:12:52,640
Speaker 1: you know you know. You don't ask you you don't

2086
02:12:52,640 --> 02:12:54,240
Speaker 1: ask me for no calls for your car show. But

2087
02:12:54,280 --> 02:12:57,400
Speaker 1: it's okay, all right, you know I'm about to you

2088
02:12:57,440 --> 02:13:05,080
Speaker 1: know what. But look, miss motherfucking Jones, are you in

2089
02:13:05,160 --> 02:13:12,440
Speaker 1: your car show right now? Goddamnit? He gets he getting

2090
02:13:12,440 --> 02:13:14,320
Speaker 1: too much money, miss Jones. He get so much money.

2091
02:13:14,440 --> 02:13:21,400
Speaker 1: I'm looking up, yo. Let me tell you something, Miss Jones.

2092
02:13:21,560 --> 02:13:25,080
Speaker 1: Picked you up so beautiful. She's so much respects you,

2093
02:13:25,200 --> 02:13:27,680
Speaker 1: she so much loves you, and we respect you when

2094
02:13:27,720 --> 02:13:30,040
Speaker 1: we love you. But I just really wanted you to

2095
02:13:30,360 --> 02:13:36,320
Speaker 1: understand and get your flowers too, because you need to.

2096
02:13:39,040 --> 02:13:48,400
Speaker 1: Julian life good. God, damn, it makes something. You're good

2097
02:13:48,440 --> 02:13:50,080
Speaker 1: looking at it. You know, we love you, man, you

2098
02:13:50,120 --> 02:13:51,680
Speaker 1: know you know what. We're gonna make sure she get

2099
02:13:51,720 --> 02:13:57,960
Speaker 1: back to having fun. Oh, hold on, hold on, hold on.

2100
02:13:58,080 --> 02:14:00,400
Speaker 1: I wear flowers. I would like flowers. I don't want

2101
02:14:00,400 --> 02:14:02,800
Speaker 1: to give flowers. I give my flowers and I wear flowers,

2102
02:14:03,080 --> 02:14:05,000
Speaker 1: but I don't like to give it myself. But yeah,

2103
02:14:05,040 --> 02:14:06,880
Speaker 1: we thank you so much. I mean, we appreciate you,

2104
02:14:06,960 --> 02:14:10,520
Speaker 1: my brother. What love makes some knowing? Yeah, come on,

2105
02:14:11,040 --> 02:14:19,160
Speaker 1: come on, come on, come on listen, No, listen, this

2106
02:14:19,320 --> 02:14:23,120
Speaker 1: is like the biggest podcast in the world, and so listen.

2107
02:14:23,240 --> 02:14:27,240
Speaker 1: I have been like so excited when I reached out

2108
02:14:27,560 --> 02:14:30,680
Speaker 1: to you and asked. It was because it was like

2109
02:14:30,880 --> 02:14:32,920
Speaker 1: six months or not six months, like three months of

2110
02:14:33,000 --> 02:14:36,720
Speaker 1: me saying I can get on drink cham that's gonna

2111
02:14:36,880 --> 02:14:42,400
Speaker 1: term you're crazy. You never not now. Just so you know,

2112
02:14:43,800 --> 02:14:45,960
Speaker 1: we made this platform for for us. You know what

2113
02:14:46,000 --> 02:14:48,320
Speaker 1: I'm saying to think about this. We love to do artists,

2114
02:14:49,000 --> 02:14:50,880
Speaker 1: but some of them, you know, their last two years

2115
02:14:51,000 --> 02:14:54,160
Speaker 1: one year and they leave and you know we we

2116
02:14:55,000 --> 02:14:58,120
Speaker 1: invented the idea of a hip hop union and the

2117
02:14:58,200 --> 02:15:00,920
Speaker 1: hip hop union bees. It's like somebody put it in there.

2118
02:15:01,320 --> 02:15:04,320
Speaker 1: They work and they you know, they blessed, sweat and tears,

2119
02:15:04,400 --> 02:15:07,160
Speaker 1: and then after after ten years, your bills should be

2120
02:15:07,240 --> 02:15:09,280
Speaker 1: taken care of. Your whole thing. So this this is

2121
02:15:09,360 --> 02:15:12,280
Speaker 1: with me and my partner. You're telling an amazing job

2122
02:15:12,560 --> 02:15:14,120
Speaker 1: if it is trying to do it. And this is

2123
02:15:14,240 --> 02:15:21,600
Speaker 1: the like, this is the grammy of hip hop. Because

2124
02:15:22,280 --> 02:15:24,920
Speaker 1: I want to reiterate something that I said earlier, was

2125
02:15:25,360 --> 02:15:29,560
Speaker 1: you like kind of invented social media. Like in my opinion, Uh,

2126
02:15:31,200 --> 02:15:33,560
Speaker 1: most things that happened in the hip hop people will

2127
02:15:33,560 --> 02:15:35,520
Speaker 1: have to call you and if they couldn't care you,

2128
02:15:35,640 --> 02:15:39,120
Speaker 1: they would d M you, which is the private line.

2129
02:15:42,920 --> 02:15:46,640
Speaker 1: But how is that because I won't point if if

2130
02:15:46,680 --> 02:15:48,560
Speaker 1: it didn't happen on your show, it just didn't happen.

2131
02:15:49,120 --> 02:15:54,040
Speaker 1: What happened maybe okay, okay, well let's just focus on you.

2132
02:15:55,120 --> 02:15:58,840
Speaker 1: I like it all right, So at won't point you

2133
02:15:58,920 --> 02:16:01,200
Speaker 1: know things happened to your show? Was that like a

2134
02:16:01,320 --> 02:16:04,000
Speaker 1: crutch or was that like because because sometimes people get bad.

2135
02:16:04,120 --> 02:16:07,120
Speaker 1: Artist is very sensitive. So there hasn't been a time

2136
02:16:07,160 --> 02:16:09,840
Speaker 1: where artists you reported something to an artist who got

2137
02:16:09,880 --> 02:16:16,640
Speaker 1: sitisenive on you always, always, always Beyonce's mom, she wanted

2138
02:16:16,680 --> 02:16:19,240
Speaker 1: to fight me a child. No I'm not a child,

2139
02:16:19,400 --> 02:16:21,400
Speaker 1: but she wanted to fight me. She came to me

2140
02:16:21,600 --> 02:16:27,400
Speaker 1: in the studio and soss, okay, you must have got

2141
02:16:27,480 --> 02:16:29,040
Speaker 1: a really piston up. What did you What did you do?

2142
02:16:30,800 --> 02:16:38,240
Speaker 1: She seems like I kind of like, what is it?

2143
02:16:38,280 --> 02:16:43,000
Speaker 1: COMPARI and so one day and and and so Beyonce

2144
02:16:43,280 --> 02:16:45,320
Speaker 1: was coming up to the station, but Ebro with them

2145
02:16:45,320 --> 02:16:48,160
Speaker 1: didn't tell me because they knew that I would either

2146
02:16:48,520 --> 02:16:53,200
Speaker 1: try and like I was unpredictable because you did say

2147
02:16:53,440 --> 02:16:55,480
Speaker 1: Mary j. Blast can't say you did say that at

2148
02:16:55,520 --> 02:16:58,840
Speaker 1: one point. A lot of times she can't. I love

2149
02:16:58,879 --> 02:17:02,560
Speaker 1: her own power, but it doesn't nowadays. You don't have

2150
02:17:02,640 --> 02:17:04,880
Speaker 1: to be able to sing. And that's what I learned.

2151
02:17:05,440 --> 02:17:09,480
Speaker 1: It's not about singing. It's about emotion. Good sing, good thing.

2152
02:17:11,800 --> 02:17:15,280
Speaker 1: I'm clapping up, very skeptic, right, It's about emotion. You

2153
02:17:15,320 --> 02:17:16,960
Speaker 1: don't have to be technical. You have to be the

2154
02:17:17,040 --> 02:17:20,199
Speaker 1: best singer right to be successful, to have a great record,

2155
02:17:20,560 --> 02:17:23,240
Speaker 1: because you're who you are, the emotion, the way you

2156
02:17:23,360 --> 02:17:28,600
Speaker 1: conveying the friend right, she sells the brand of black girl,

2157
02:17:28,879 --> 02:17:34,879
Speaker 1: hurt and love. That's saying, that's it. You win, Jesus,

2158
02:17:37,160 --> 02:17:51,959
Speaker 1: it's time to be the queen. Flip. It's very hot

2159
02:17:52,040 --> 02:17:54,039
Speaker 1: over there. I'll just let you know. He'll be fine.

2160
02:17:55,160 --> 02:18:00,600
Speaker 1: She just said. Mary Jakes cast saying pushing it. You're

2161
02:18:00,600 --> 02:18:05,000
Speaker 1: pushing it, you're pushing it. Well, I mean that doesn't

2162
02:18:05,040 --> 02:18:10,440
Speaker 1: mean that she's not a great artist. Isn't a great singer?

2163
02:18:11,360 --> 02:18:16,880
Speaker 1: Macy Gray Okay, well it depends I think for her

2164
02:18:16,959 --> 02:18:19,160
Speaker 1: vocal into her voice or not that. No, it's a

2165
02:18:19,200 --> 02:18:22,440
Speaker 1: different type of voice. But so it's Mary. If you're

2166
02:18:22,480 --> 02:18:25,040
Speaker 1: into it, you're into it. It doesn't matter. And the song,

2167
02:18:25,360 --> 02:18:28,959
Speaker 1: the brand is consistent. Mary's brand is consistent throughout the years.

2168
02:18:29,000 --> 02:18:31,720
Speaker 1: You know, if you're hurting in love, put on a

2169
02:18:31,760 --> 02:18:35,040
Speaker 1: married song. She wins by the fall. You know, I've

2170
02:18:35,080 --> 02:18:36,800
Speaker 1: been hurting in love for a little tough. So I love.

2171
02:18:38,320 --> 02:18:45,920
Speaker 1: I saw your gorgeous wife, not recently but back to day. Like, yeah,

2172
02:18:51,360 --> 02:18:55,320
Speaker 1: so as you think that you were married is because

2173
02:18:55,480 --> 02:18:58,480
Speaker 1: of what you mentioned earlier where you felt like Papa

2174
02:18:58,560 --> 02:19:01,400
Speaker 1: was kind of like, is it just that all? Here's

2175
02:19:01,440 --> 02:19:06,280
Speaker 1: the thing when I picked you again, so I'm sorry

2176
02:19:06,440 --> 02:19:09,199
Speaker 1: I cut you off. Now it's fine. But ahead, Mary

2177
02:19:09,280 --> 02:19:11,320
Speaker 1: and I have no beat. Like when we see each other,

2178
02:19:11,440 --> 02:19:15,520
Speaker 1: She's like, you want some wine? Did made? Is one

2179
02:19:15,560 --> 02:19:19,480
Speaker 1: of the first. We don't have those conversations. We don't

2180
02:19:19,480 --> 02:19:21,720
Speaker 1: have those conversations. And one day and I don't have

2181
02:19:21,800 --> 02:19:24,320
Speaker 1: those conversations. So here's the interesting thing when I when

2182
02:19:24,400 --> 02:19:27,160
Speaker 1: you try to Bertie, it's a little different. I don't know. Sorry,

2183
02:19:27,160 --> 02:19:36,240
Speaker 1: I went to murdership. Murder already died. It's murder happens.

2184
02:19:36,800 --> 02:19:39,000
Speaker 1: Was like, I swear to God, you don't need my sister.

2185
02:19:39,040 --> 02:19:40,720
Speaker 1: I love you. So when I googled you and it

2186
02:19:40,879 --> 02:19:43,480
Speaker 1: kept coming up, I was like, damn, I had to

2187
02:19:43,600 --> 02:19:45,840
Speaker 1: I swear off. I wanted to excluded it from the interview,

2188
02:19:46,040 --> 02:19:49,480
Speaker 1: but I kept googled it. Every it leaves. It leaves

2189
02:19:49,640 --> 02:19:52,880
Speaker 1: when wanted murder, and it leaves now because she and

2190
02:19:52,959 --> 02:19:55,600
Speaker 1: I are like out in these streets together every chance,

2191
02:19:55,680 --> 02:20:01,480
Speaker 1: as pictures and stuff like that. And here's the thing, Mary,

2192
02:20:02,440 --> 02:20:05,240
Speaker 1: Mary's like, Mary is unaware of I guess how I

2193
02:20:05,360 --> 02:20:12,640
Speaker 1: feel like, um, sab Judah does these celebrity boxing matches

2194
02:20:12,879 --> 02:20:15,200
Speaker 1: and he wants me and married a fight. Oh that

2195
02:20:15,600 --> 02:20:18,280
Speaker 1: that's never gonna happen, obviously, But so I've challenged her.

2196
02:20:18,320 --> 02:20:20,120
Speaker 1: I was like, come get these boys, bitches what she

2197
02:20:20,200 --> 02:20:24,640
Speaker 1: wanted to be and I'm not I need to stretch

2198
02:20:24,800 --> 02:20:26,760
Speaker 1: and like lose weight and all these things. But it

2199
02:20:26,879 --> 02:20:29,000
Speaker 1: was fun. But I think she's shut down my I

2200
02:20:29,160 --> 02:20:32,640
Speaker 1: G page. She shut it down. Probably not. I'm just

2201
02:20:32,760 --> 02:20:35,320
Speaker 1: running with it. But I don't have a problem with her.

2202
02:20:35,480 --> 02:20:37,240
Speaker 1: She really don't have a problem with me because she's

2203
02:20:37,240 --> 02:20:39,920
Speaker 1: come to my show in Philly. We like, we're good.

2204
02:20:40,400 --> 02:20:43,320
Speaker 1: She's not that complex. It's just me with this whole

2205
02:20:43,959 --> 02:20:46,920
Speaker 1: I have a thing, like I have a thing. So

2206
02:20:47,080 --> 02:20:50,560
Speaker 1: you don't think that if she's questioned and taken back

2207
02:20:50,560 --> 02:20:54,160
Speaker 1: because it's easy for someone to have a career and

2208
02:20:54,280 --> 02:20:56,720
Speaker 1: in the beginning of their career not acknowledged certain people

2209
02:20:56,760 --> 02:20:59,480
Speaker 1: that are around their peers, right, but after they've had

2210
02:21:00,160 --> 02:21:02,880
Speaker 1: huge career, they could look back and say, yes, this

2211
02:21:03,080 --> 02:21:05,600
Speaker 1: person was on the forefront of this, They were the

2212
02:21:05,680 --> 02:21:08,040
Speaker 1: pioneer of this. They were before me and this. You

2213
02:21:08,080 --> 02:21:09,920
Speaker 1: don't think she do that, right? Now, get her asked

2214
02:21:09,959 --> 02:21:15,600
Speaker 1: on your show and find out, because here's the better question.

2215
02:21:15,879 --> 02:21:19,440
Speaker 1: After you guys will competing in music. She's never capable

2216
02:21:19,720 --> 02:21:24,360
Speaker 1: miss your own show ever. You never interview to come.

2217
02:21:25,200 --> 02:21:28,360
Speaker 1: But she came on my show and Philly, Okay, that's

2218
02:21:28,400 --> 02:21:30,120
Speaker 1: your show. But what does that mean? I think she

2219
02:21:30,200 --> 02:21:33,120
Speaker 1: didn't realize that it was Jonesy because in Philly they

2220
02:21:33,160 --> 02:21:36,160
Speaker 1: called me Jones. New York calls me miss Jones. No,

2221
02:21:36,400 --> 02:21:39,760
Speaker 1: she realized she probably Martest. No, we played. She made

2222
02:21:39,760 --> 02:21:43,480
Speaker 1: me drinks. Okay, yeah, I'll be drinking girl. I know

2223
02:21:43,640 --> 02:21:50,040
Speaker 1: it's Joseph Jozi. I don't know. I'm married right there.

2224
02:21:50,120 --> 02:21:57,440
Speaker 1: I think I think Mary exactly new who exactly you were? Okay? Well,

2225
02:21:57,480 --> 02:21:59,920
Speaker 1: and I took it okay, but I still talk my

2226
02:22:00,280 --> 02:22:02,920
Speaker 1: I played too much. They all know Mary Faith Faith

2227
02:22:02,959 --> 02:22:06,000
Speaker 1: not speaking to me now, Mary Faith, Lauren, they all

2228
02:22:06,080 --> 02:22:08,360
Speaker 1: know I played too much, but it's who I am.

2229
02:22:08,920 --> 02:22:13,360
Speaker 1: Let's let's go with Laura. Who got be for Lauria? No,

2230
02:22:13,480 --> 02:22:17,280
Speaker 1: I really don't have beef with Lauren. But Faith is

2231
02:22:17,400 --> 02:22:22,360
Speaker 1: mad because she came on my podcast and it was

2232
02:22:22,440 --> 02:22:24,680
Speaker 1: all going good and then I got silly and I

2233
02:22:24,840 --> 02:22:27,200
Speaker 1: was like, who is better? In bad too Papa Bibi,

2234
02:22:28,320 --> 02:22:33,680
Speaker 1: Oh my god, and the record scraps like what She's like,

2235
02:22:34,240 --> 02:22:40,840
Speaker 1: I wouldn't know why you asked my head too, but

2236
02:22:42,320 --> 02:22:46,440
Speaker 1: so like I just be playing too much. Nori helped me. No,

2237
02:22:46,680 --> 02:22:53,000
Speaker 1: I can't row this one. That one was terrible. You

2238
02:22:53,080 --> 02:22:56,360
Speaker 1: really are is bad. It was bad. But to the

2239
02:22:56,440 --> 02:23:00,320
Speaker 1: point did she take a humorous well in that monte?

2240
02:23:00,560 --> 02:23:02,360
Speaker 1: She actually was like, I didn't have sex with him

2241
02:23:02,360 --> 02:23:04,160
Speaker 1: and I we carried on faith on our show. Was

2242
02:23:04,360 --> 02:23:09,560
Speaker 1: super candid. She waspen she said straight up, she didn't,

2243
02:23:10,959 --> 02:23:12,680
Speaker 1: but I had to ask her. She said a lot

2244
02:23:12,760 --> 02:23:16,560
Speaker 1: of but I had to ask because that's what I'm

2245
02:23:16,600 --> 02:23:19,120
Speaker 1: known for doing. How could I not ask? And she

2246
02:23:19,280 --> 02:23:21,040
Speaker 1: was fine, she like. We kept on with the interview,

2247
02:23:21,040 --> 02:23:23,080
Speaker 1: and then later that night I got an email that

2248
02:23:23,240 --> 02:23:27,760
Speaker 1: CCTs Stevie J and me, how dare you ask me

2249
02:23:27,840 --> 02:23:31,880
Speaker 1: those questions? That was disrespectful of my husband. My husband

2250
02:23:31,920 --> 02:23:35,280
Speaker 1: would not appreciate you having asked those questions. My husband

2251
02:23:35,360 --> 02:23:38,000
Speaker 1: is up. Stevie, get out of face email and go

2252
02:23:38,160 --> 02:23:42,039
Speaker 1: to bed. I have a Stevie J. Satday night email

2253
02:23:42,080 --> 02:23:48,039
Speaker 1: to me. But I apologize to the Jordan's ship. Yes,

2254
02:23:48,360 --> 02:23:53,880
Speaker 1: I was ready for little did you get a show.

2255
02:23:56,720 --> 02:24:00,440
Speaker 1: I see I seen one in room. Yeah. Yeah, if

2256
02:24:00,480 --> 02:24:04,160
Speaker 1: you made a tragedy, I watched it all, Bro, I

2257
02:24:04,200 --> 02:24:07,320
Speaker 1: appreciate watch it. B It means a lot of flip

2258
02:24:07,400 --> 02:24:09,080
Speaker 1: got it the last he's going to people cribs. You're

2259
02:24:09,080 --> 02:24:12,840
Speaker 1: not heavy because look at what you just did after

2260
02:24:12,920 --> 02:24:15,400
Speaker 1: that Mary story and faith backing up and yeah, I

2261
02:24:15,440 --> 02:24:17,200
Speaker 1: don't want sev J coming in with them. Okay, but

2262
02:24:17,280 --> 02:24:21,760
Speaker 1: here's here's another deal. I ask you little Kim or Foxy? Yeah,

2263
02:24:22,000 --> 02:24:26,280
Speaker 1: he said neither, right, You're the first person to ever

2264
02:24:26,440 --> 02:24:29,640
Speaker 1: say neither. Come on, let's do a shot. I let

2265
02:24:29,680 --> 02:24:38,040
Speaker 1: your style shot a porn ready. Ah, you said, this

2266
02:24:38,200 --> 02:24:41,440
Speaker 1: is the for lack of a crater term, especially our time,

2267
02:24:41,800 --> 02:24:44,920
Speaker 1: especially at the time you came out. You were on

2268
02:24:45,800 --> 02:24:50,120
Speaker 1: a Z number one single, your own one, everybody's record

2269
02:24:50,160 --> 02:24:57,160
Speaker 1: many A. Yeah, how can how can you say little

2270
02:24:57,320 --> 02:25:00,560
Speaker 1: Kim Foxy Brown and not picked either? And I would like,

2271
02:25:00,640 --> 02:25:03,039
Speaker 1: you know what, I love them both, but I would

2272
02:25:03,040 --> 02:25:07,920
Speaker 1: like your gud honest opinion. So that's the thing. Yes,

2273
02:25:08,480 --> 02:25:11,080
Speaker 1: we all, as much as we may not want to admit,

2274
02:25:11,200 --> 02:25:13,160
Speaker 1: we know that Biggie was the best writer for Kim

2275
02:25:14,160 --> 02:25:18,640
Speaker 1: and was big passed away the level of lyricality kind

2276
02:25:18,680 --> 02:25:21,800
Speaker 1: of waned. I love that word. I've never heard of liberality.

2277
02:25:22,200 --> 02:25:27,280
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't even take the word. That's hall.

2278
02:25:27,440 --> 02:25:32,360
Speaker 1: That was all Google it. Make it a word, make

2279
02:25:32,400 --> 02:25:36,400
Speaker 1: it a word. It waned after he passed away, like

2280
02:25:36,520 --> 02:25:39,760
Speaker 1: we waited and waited and waited for her specifically to stay. Yeah,

2281
02:25:39,959 --> 02:25:42,800
Speaker 1: and I don't know that and maybe we just had

2282
02:25:42,879 --> 02:25:46,520
Speaker 1: bigger expectations because it was he writing for her. But

2283
02:25:46,640 --> 02:25:51,840
Speaker 1: when she finally did for me. If it's a wordy,

2284
02:25:52,360 --> 02:25:59,879
Speaker 1: go ahead, Jonesy, it just it felt all right, that's you, right,

2285
02:26:00,640 --> 02:26:06,920
Speaker 1: So I just and Foxy, it's personal, it's personal. Well,

2286
02:26:07,640 --> 02:26:12,000
Speaker 1: she's just she's just nasty. She's just meaning for no

2287
02:26:12,160 --> 02:26:18,720
Speaker 1: reason to me or back then like just like irrational

2288
02:26:20,080 --> 02:26:23,480
Speaker 1: and I can't do it. I can't do I don't

2289
02:26:23,520 --> 02:26:26,080
Speaker 1: care how much of flow is good and who you

2290
02:26:26,120 --> 02:26:29,600
Speaker 1: are feeling? It was that sorry, so sorry. I don't

2291
02:26:29,600 --> 02:26:32,440
Speaker 1: know of course it online, but who what was like

2292
02:26:32,720 --> 02:26:37,400
Speaker 1: easy was like her quiet man? Or you did a

2293
02:26:37,440 --> 02:26:40,320
Speaker 1: record where eazy that did that anything had anything to

2294
02:26:40,400 --> 02:26:45,600
Speaker 1: do with it an epiphany head. I had no idea

2295
02:26:48,080 --> 02:26:52,800
Speaker 1: it's a legend that would make sense. I didn't know

2296
02:26:52,959 --> 02:27:00,080
Speaker 1: that girl. I hadn't. I didn't heard that both. That

2297
02:27:00,600 --> 02:27:06,160
Speaker 1: makes the exactly I'm clear to allow Nori. That's this

2298
02:27:06,440 --> 02:27:09,440
Speaker 1: is Allegendly we have a Z on the show. He's

2299
02:27:09,480 --> 02:27:12,680
Speaker 1: been supposed to. He's got a new album coming, so

2300
02:27:12,840 --> 02:27:16,560
Speaker 1: he needs to come. Yeah, me to, He's supposed to come,

2301
02:27:16,600 --> 02:27:18,080
Speaker 1: my mind, but he's like Jones, do you know the

2302
02:27:18,160 --> 02:27:22,240
Speaker 1: creative process? That would make sense because I never knew why.

2303
02:27:22,560 --> 02:27:26,480
Speaker 1: She just is always those ways to me. This was

2304
02:27:27,000 --> 02:27:29,640
Speaker 1: so look at the timeline. Was it after that? It

2305
02:27:29,920 --> 02:27:34,080
Speaker 1: was because because I was on the Firm album. I

2306
02:27:34,200 --> 02:27:39,760
Speaker 1: did a song on the Firm album. Yeah, but after

2307
02:27:39,879 --> 02:27:49,160
Speaker 1: I'm like, white, Wow, thank you Noram can give me that.

2308
02:27:53,480 --> 02:27:57,240
Speaker 1: You gave me my closure that I needed. Wow. Whoever

2309
02:27:57,280 --> 02:28:01,680
Speaker 1: thought it would have come on drink Champ Allegedly it

2310
02:28:01,840 --> 02:28:16,040
Speaker 1: happens this way. You're up, We're okay, you're Punt. This

2311
02:28:16,280 --> 02:28:19,879
Speaker 1: is super alleged. Leave everything that is not allegedly as

2312
02:28:19,920 --> 02:28:22,480
Speaker 1: me and Pun was like he was my love story.

2313
02:28:23,640 --> 02:28:28,480
Speaker 1: Yeah we never foxed, but we could have, but we

2314
02:28:28,640 --> 02:28:32,400
Speaker 1: did it. Jesus, but we that's a love story. That's

2315
02:28:32,440 --> 02:28:35,119
Speaker 1: like you're in love with him without So here's the thing.

2316
02:28:36,320 --> 02:28:46,760
Speaker 1: When I met Pun, the exact story. That was really

2317
02:28:46,920 --> 02:28:49,880
Speaker 1: sad when he died, but so the I go lie,

2318
02:28:50,000 --> 02:28:55,080
Speaker 1: y'all was sorry to the situation, but nice to see y'all.

2319
02:28:55,120 --> 02:28:58,200
Speaker 1: Y'all was cute together, like like he would like rub

2320
02:28:58,360 --> 02:29:03,600
Speaker 1: your nose, like your nod. Yeah. Yeah. Han would come

2321
02:29:03,640 --> 02:29:07,040
Speaker 1: to my house every night of the week after like

2322
02:29:07,200 --> 02:29:13,760
Speaker 1: seven pm and just be. He would be. He would share,

2323
02:29:14,080 --> 02:29:15,760
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, this is this is something you know what

2324
02:29:15,800 --> 02:29:18,240
Speaker 1: it's twenty years twenty five years later. Do you think

2325
02:29:18,600 --> 02:29:20,160
Speaker 1: was in love with you? I know that he was.

2326
02:29:21,920 --> 02:29:26,960
Speaker 1: I think so too. Why do you think that? No? Stop,

2327
02:29:32,360 --> 02:29:41,600
Speaker 1: I meant no, But honestly, I'm so sorry because you

2328
02:29:41,640 --> 02:29:43,480
Speaker 1: know it's it's People can be offended by this part

2329
02:29:43,520 --> 02:29:45,960
Speaker 1: of the interview, but it's okay, and I apologize. But

2330
02:29:46,320 --> 02:29:48,879
Speaker 1: I never see him blush when I see him around.

2331
02:29:48,959 --> 02:29:52,360
Speaker 1: You see him blush, and it was like blussing right now.

2332
02:29:56,720 --> 02:29:58,840
Speaker 1: He was good to me. He was good to me

2333
02:29:58,959 --> 02:30:02,400
Speaker 1: without me maybe even like I never I just was

2334
02:30:02,480 --> 02:30:06,320
Speaker 1: able to be regular Tarsha from a stormy up and

2335
02:30:06,400 --> 02:30:11,360
Speaker 1: he didn't judge me. No. I just remember how my

2336
02:30:11,440 --> 02:30:15,320
Speaker 1: brother thought about her, like I seard, no, that's serious.

2337
02:30:15,920 --> 02:30:18,959
Speaker 1: And he's the guy from the Bronx. I'm you know her,

2338
02:30:19,200 --> 02:30:21,879
Speaker 1: I'm her brother. So when I heard him talking about her,

2339
02:30:22,000 --> 02:30:24,600
Speaker 1: I couldn't. I could not stop him because it was

2340
02:30:24,760 --> 02:30:29,360
Speaker 1: so respectful, it was so lovable, and it was so like,

2341
02:30:29,600 --> 02:30:31,560
Speaker 1: you know, I'm sorry because I can see her face

2342
02:30:31,680 --> 02:30:38,480
Speaker 1: right now, Okay, alright, cool, because I could, I couldn't

2343
02:30:38,480 --> 02:30:41,120
Speaker 1: physically see that. I can really see when he was

2344
02:30:41,200 --> 02:30:44,800
Speaker 1: around you, like he felt comfortable, he lowered his thing,

2345
02:30:45,440 --> 02:30:48,760
Speaker 1: and you know, I posized anybody's hurt from what I'm saying.

2346
02:30:50,000 --> 02:30:52,560
Speaker 1: But I could see that he had a certain part

2347
02:30:52,640 --> 02:30:57,360
Speaker 1: of his heart for you. And did you did you

2348
02:30:57,480 --> 02:31:01,160
Speaker 1: know that? I did? Okay? And but but again he

2349
02:31:01,280 --> 02:31:04,200
Speaker 1: was always married. Was it reciprocal? Like did you feel

2350
02:31:04,240 --> 02:31:07,039
Speaker 1: the same way I did? Because he didn't want nothing

2351
02:31:07,120 --> 02:31:11,240
Speaker 1: from me, He didn't need anything. It was pure emotion,

2352
02:31:11,280 --> 02:31:14,000
Speaker 1: and he met me where I was like, he always

2353
02:31:14,320 --> 02:31:16,960
Speaker 1: was available to me in the midst of his busy.

2354
02:31:17,920 --> 02:31:20,800
Speaker 1: He always at the end of the night, that driver

2355
02:31:21,000 --> 02:31:25,920
Speaker 1: would bring him West End Avenue, Apartment two. K you know,

2356
02:31:26,000 --> 02:31:30,199
Speaker 1: it's the great shot Western Avenue at that time. Relax,

2357
02:31:30,280 --> 02:31:41,560
Speaker 1: kick yourself, I knew, okay, okay, so so you know,

2358
02:31:42,000 --> 02:31:47,960
Speaker 1: and yeah, so he was at the height, and when

2359
02:31:48,000 --> 02:31:51,280
Speaker 1: you're at the height, it's hard to get people to

2360
02:31:51,879 --> 02:31:54,800
Speaker 1: receive you where you are. But he knew I didn't

2361
02:31:54,800 --> 02:31:57,640
Speaker 1: want nothing from him but those laughs. And he knew

2362
02:31:57,680 --> 02:31:59,920
Speaker 1: I was dealing with some mental ship from the person

2363
02:32:00,000 --> 02:32:03,720
Speaker 1: Novice with at the time, and he pulled me up

2364
02:32:03,760 --> 02:32:08,400
Speaker 1: out of that and he did a remix on for

2365
02:32:08,520 --> 02:32:10,720
Speaker 1: my album because he knew the label was about to

2366
02:32:10,800 --> 02:32:13,480
Speaker 1: drop me, and he said, if I do this remix,

2367
02:32:14,160 --> 02:32:16,160
Speaker 1: not only will they keep you, but they'll send you

2368
02:32:16,240 --> 02:32:18,880
Speaker 1: on tour with me, and I'll threaten them if they don't.

2369
02:32:20,040 --> 02:32:22,600
Speaker 1: And that happened, and Motown got me a tour bus.

2370
02:32:23,240 --> 02:32:25,640
Speaker 1: Next thing, I knew, I was the most unworthy R

2371
02:32:25,720 --> 02:32:28,160
Speaker 1: and B artist on tour with Fat Joe and Big Punt.

2372
02:32:29,000 --> 02:32:36,520
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah yeah. And then and then when all

2373
02:32:36,560 --> 02:32:38,400
Speaker 1: this ship happened at Many seven and I needed to

2374
02:32:38,480 --> 02:32:41,560
Speaker 1: move from that apartment to Harlem, who gave me first

2375
02:32:41,680 --> 02:32:47,000
Speaker 1: month's last month security. We've never heard this, We need

2376
02:32:47,080 --> 02:32:49,760
Speaker 1: you to save yeah yeah yeah, Big Punt gave me

2377
02:32:49,879 --> 02:32:53,160
Speaker 1: first months last month security. Come up to my office,

2378
02:32:53,240 --> 02:33:00,440
Speaker 1: the check will be there. And I never I always

2379
02:33:00,520 --> 02:33:02,640
Speaker 1: knew it was like you know, I knew it was

2380
02:33:02,640 --> 02:33:05,560
Speaker 1: a deeper love, like you know, I'm too young to

2381
02:33:05,680 --> 02:33:09,560
Speaker 1: like identify what it actually is, but I'm old enough

2382
02:33:09,600 --> 02:33:13,959
Speaker 1: to know there's something there that's like, it's beautiful. Yeah,

2383
02:33:14,520 --> 02:33:18,440
Speaker 1: we kept it clean. It's never physical, which is which

2384
02:33:18,520 --> 02:33:20,520
Speaker 1: is like we need to make that clear. You know,

2385
02:33:20,720 --> 02:33:23,360
Speaker 1: we never had sex, we never kissed, we never did anything.

2386
02:33:24,120 --> 02:33:29,120
Speaker 1: But there was a high level of intimacy without the sex,

2387
02:33:30,160 --> 02:33:36,440
Speaker 1: which is I understand. I'm trying to promote that. I'm

2388
02:33:36,480 --> 02:33:43,440
Speaker 1: sorry that that was real. That was real. That's real

2389
02:33:43,480 --> 02:33:46,360
Speaker 1: because you know, thank you. Normy's my brother. No one

2390
02:33:46,400 --> 02:33:49,280
Speaker 1: ever spoke for his side until now. No I knew,

2391
02:33:49,320 --> 02:33:51,160
Speaker 1: I knew, I knew how he felt about it. I'm sorry.

2392
02:33:51,440 --> 02:33:54,879
Speaker 1: I know they're gonna hate me, like the family they

2393
02:33:54,959 --> 02:33:58,920
Speaker 1: got bigger. But that's that's real ship, man, I was.

2394
02:33:59,120 --> 02:34:01,360
Speaker 1: I saw it, like, you know, this is my sis.

2395
02:34:01,920 --> 02:34:04,560
Speaker 1: So I'm saying it back like and I'm looking at

2396
02:34:04,600 --> 02:34:07,680
Speaker 1: like damn and like he would go involve and beyond

2397
02:34:07,800 --> 02:34:11,880
Speaker 1: to make like you know whatever, like you just go

2398
02:34:12,000 --> 02:34:14,080
Speaker 1: to the Miss Jones says like where are we going?

2399
02:34:14,280 --> 02:34:17,920
Speaker 1: Like let's go. I'm like okay, and I just to

2400
02:34:18,040 --> 02:34:22,600
Speaker 1: this day. I had no idea he put me down

2401
02:34:22,879 --> 02:34:28,080
Speaker 1: on his publishing. Wait wait like his regularly, like all

2402
02:34:28,160 --> 02:34:31,480
Speaker 1: his publishing, I get checks on songs should not be said,

2403
02:34:31,520 --> 02:34:33,920
Speaker 1: wait now whole a minute. Who have been waiting? And

2404
02:34:34,040 --> 02:34:38,320
Speaker 1: I ain't trying to sunk up my ship? But it's done.

2405
02:34:38,400 --> 02:34:43,640
Speaker 1: It's done. It was his choice, right right, Yeah, absolutely,

2406
02:34:44,040 --> 02:34:50,520
Speaker 1: he put me down like I live, Jalen, you live

2407
02:34:51,240 --> 02:35:00,600
Speaker 1: off of the royalties of big pun. I just I

2408
02:35:00,680 --> 02:35:03,119
Speaker 1: knew how he looked at her. I knew how he saw.

2409
02:35:03,600 --> 02:35:05,240
Speaker 1: I didn't know anything else, and I didn't want to

2410
02:35:05,280 --> 02:35:08,160
Speaker 1: know anything else. It wasn't my business. But I could

2411
02:35:08,200 --> 02:35:09,960
Speaker 1: never take away from how he looked at us, how

2412
02:35:10,000 --> 02:35:14,640
Speaker 1: he saw, how he treated up every single, single single moment.

2413
02:35:14,720 --> 02:35:16,720
Speaker 1: So now we get a little deep, it's gonna be

2414
02:35:16,720 --> 02:35:19,560
Speaker 1: a little weird. But what how did you feel like

2415
02:35:19,600 --> 02:35:22,640
Speaker 1: when he passed away? Like you know, I passed out

2416
02:35:22,640 --> 02:35:24,240
Speaker 1: at the funeral and they had to pick me up

2417
02:35:24,320 --> 02:35:27,760
Speaker 1: off the floor. Definitely remember that it was it was

2418
02:35:28,720 --> 02:35:31,000
Speaker 1: we had just come off tour and it was like

2419
02:35:31,080 --> 02:35:40,400
Speaker 1: two months later, and yeah, it wasn't a lot of pain.

2420
02:35:43,240 --> 02:35:48,320
Speaker 1: It was in a lot of pain more than physically.

2421
02:35:48,760 --> 02:35:51,400
Speaker 1: That's what fox me up. When I went to the casket,

2422
02:35:52,440 --> 02:35:54,240
Speaker 1: that's what the brothers told me. They said, he's he

2423
02:35:54,400 --> 02:35:57,440
Speaker 1: was in pain. I never see him physically in pain.

2424
02:35:57,560 --> 02:35:59,800
Speaker 1: I never I saw him. You know, I saw him

2425
02:36:00,320 --> 02:36:03,840
Speaker 1: go to sleep like and later on I figured out

2426
02:36:03,879 --> 02:36:07,960
Speaker 1: that was knocking. But I've never seen him fully in pay.

2427
02:36:08,080 --> 02:36:11,800
Speaker 1: So you know, if you could give me some that

2428
02:36:11,920 --> 02:36:14,000
Speaker 1: you saw him and so he used to I mean,

2429
02:36:14,760 --> 02:36:18,040
Speaker 1: we used to have conversations about his relationship with his mom,

2430
02:36:19,160 --> 02:36:22,680
Speaker 1: his relationship with his mom. Well, boys relationships with their

2431
02:36:22,760 --> 02:36:25,840
Speaker 1: mom's told you, men, it's how you. I loved how

2432
02:36:25,879 --> 02:36:31,320
Speaker 1: you looked, and said, boys relationship with their moms at

2433
02:36:35,160 --> 02:36:38,320
Speaker 1: when you're young, that's what forms your relationship with women.

2434
02:36:38,360 --> 02:36:43,400
Speaker 1: Your relationship with your mom. Go ahead. He just used

2435
02:36:43,400 --> 02:36:45,879
Speaker 1: to discuss and open up about his relationship with his mother.

2436
02:36:46,879 --> 02:36:49,200
Speaker 1: At that time. It wasn't the greatest and you know,

2437
02:36:49,520 --> 02:36:52,440
Speaker 1: maybe they needed time to grow, but he didn't live

2438
02:36:52,600 --> 02:36:55,600
Speaker 1: beyond that. So they were still trying to figure things out.

2439
02:36:56,200 --> 02:37:00,720
Speaker 1: And I was never I wasn't judged men. So because

2440
02:37:02,080 --> 02:37:09,959
Speaker 1: like us as people of color, we are born into trauma.

2441
02:37:11,280 --> 02:37:18,080
Speaker 1: We're born into trauma and it becomes ordinary. We face trauma.

2442
02:37:18,520 --> 02:37:21,280
Speaker 1: We dress up for the wake and the funeral and

2443
02:37:21,400 --> 02:37:23,959
Speaker 1: then after like three days, we have to go back

2444
02:37:24,040 --> 02:37:28,600
Speaker 1: to work with school like nothing has happened. And this

2445
02:37:28,840 --> 02:37:31,279
Speaker 1: is how we're raised, and we grow and it becomes

2446
02:37:31,400 --> 02:37:36,119
Speaker 1: normal and you don't see that their ship that wasn't addressed,

2447
02:37:36,360 --> 02:37:39,280
Speaker 1: and so we go through life and then you get

2448
02:37:39,360 --> 02:37:43,280
Speaker 1: older and that ship that's not been addressed, you just

2449
02:37:43,480 --> 02:37:48,800
Speaker 1: carry it. So he was dealing with a lot of pain.

2450
02:37:49,160 --> 02:37:51,680
Speaker 1: So I just want to actually straight up, I'm just

2451
02:37:51,800 --> 02:37:55,680
Speaker 1: being honest because this is something a question I cannot

2452
02:37:56,120 --> 02:38:00,320
Speaker 1: get answered. He told you he was in pain. Wow.

2453
02:38:01,440 --> 02:38:05,400
Speaker 1: And he told me why. He told me what happened

2454
02:38:05,560 --> 02:38:08,200
Speaker 1: leading up to and he discussed the weight gain and

2455
02:38:08,280 --> 02:38:13,600
Speaker 1: what prompted that, and he told me when I met Pun,

2456
02:38:14,320 --> 02:38:22,200
Speaker 1: he was not overweight. He was like yeah, he was

2457
02:38:22,480 --> 02:38:29,640
Speaker 1: swelt like like Verry and he and he um. So

2458
02:38:29,760 --> 02:38:32,160
Speaker 1: I didn't meet the overweight Pun. I met that Pun

2459
02:38:32,320 --> 02:38:34,760
Speaker 1: and he liked me then, but I didn't know he

2460
02:38:34,879 --> 02:38:37,120
Speaker 1: liked me then. He was in a talent show at

2461
02:38:37,160 --> 02:38:40,080
Speaker 1: the Victoria Theater theater up in Harlem, and he had

2462
02:38:40,200 --> 02:38:43,120
Speaker 1: jumped off the stage. I was a judge and was

2463
02:38:43,360 --> 02:38:46,520
Speaker 1: doing his song to me. But I saw the talent then,

2464
02:38:47,120 --> 02:38:49,640
Speaker 1: so I'm giving it up just because he was talented.

2465
02:38:50,200 --> 02:38:53,560
Speaker 1: He remembered, he remembered, I met you blah blah blah

2466
02:38:53,560 --> 02:38:56,880
Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah. And then some accident happened in

2467
02:38:56,959 --> 02:39:02,640
Speaker 1: the lawsuit and yeah, so you know. But so he

2468
02:39:02,720 --> 02:39:04,720
Speaker 1: would share that with me, and I don't judge, because

2469
02:39:04,760 --> 02:39:06,720
Speaker 1: I just don't judge, Like who then am I to judge?

2470
02:39:07,400 --> 02:39:11,640
Speaker 1: But we used to have barbecues at my Manhattan apartment, Brandy.

2471
02:39:12,560 --> 02:39:19,600
Speaker 1: Everybody would come and he would ask that I'm put

2472
02:39:19,760 --> 02:39:22,160
Speaker 1: his plate to the side because he knew that people

2473
02:39:22,200 --> 02:39:25,760
Speaker 1: would be watching him while he was eating, and he

2474
02:39:25,840 --> 02:39:28,240
Speaker 1: didn't want that. You don't want that distraction. You don't

2475
02:39:28,280 --> 02:39:33,160
Speaker 1: want that, you know. And and I got it because

2476
02:39:33,440 --> 02:39:36,240
Speaker 1: fuck them, I'll put your plate to the side. But

2477
02:39:36,320 --> 02:39:39,640
Speaker 1: I don't know that he had that type of transparency

2478
02:39:39,959 --> 02:39:43,240
Speaker 1: with a lot of other people, and he knew he

2479
02:39:43,280 --> 02:39:46,080
Speaker 1: could trust me with it, because again I ain't judging,

2480
02:39:46,959 --> 02:39:50,880
Speaker 1: So I think that encourages the love. It was intimacy

2481
02:39:51,040 --> 02:39:56,440
Speaker 1: without sex, without physicality, without oh I'm a fuck, It

2482
02:39:56,560 --> 02:40:00,680
Speaker 1: was none of that stuff. It's just it was other people.

2483
02:40:01,959 --> 02:40:06,640
Speaker 1: There's always other people. We talked about a few circle back.

2484
02:40:07,280 --> 02:40:11,280
Speaker 1: I'll never tell you, but so you know. So it

2485
02:40:11,400 --> 02:40:16,080
Speaker 1: was like um and and and he took me on

2486
02:40:16,240 --> 02:40:18,960
Speaker 1: his back struggling r and B artists and put me

2487
02:40:19,040 --> 02:40:22,920
Speaker 1: on his song, came on my song to a street remix,

2488
02:40:23,640 --> 02:40:28,640
Speaker 1: made motown, get me a tour, bus, hotel rooms, um

2489
02:40:28,959 --> 02:40:33,280
Speaker 1: uh everything, street team, everything. And if it hadn't been

2490
02:40:33,360 --> 02:40:37,040
Speaker 1: for Pun, I probably would have never experienced going on tour.

2491
02:40:42,200 --> 02:40:45,640
Speaker 1: I was beautiful man. For me, that like the outside

2492
02:40:45,680 --> 02:40:48,800
Speaker 1: looking in, you know, I was never like and you

2493
02:40:48,879 --> 02:40:51,520
Speaker 1: guys conversation. I just see you guys just like you

2494
02:40:51,560 --> 02:40:55,840
Speaker 1: guys are like pomp heads. You know. I didn't know,

2495
02:40:56,040 --> 02:40:58,760
Speaker 1: you know, I do. I knew it was. It was

2496
02:40:58,840 --> 02:41:01,720
Speaker 1: something respect. You know, it's because an outsider, which is

2497
02:41:01,840 --> 02:41:05,640
Speaker 1: close to perm. Yeah. And I was just like, all

2498
02:41:05,680 --> 02:41:07,000
Speaker 1: right when I see that, I was just like I

2499
02:41:07,240 --> 02:41:11,800
Speaker 1: always felt back. It was a special it's a special commodity.

2500
02:41:11,879 --> 02:41:17,360
Speaker 1: What is that? Yeah? But oh man, this is so

2501
02:41:17,480 --> 02:41:20,040
Speaker 1: let's go. Let's let's up about you right there. What's up?

2502
02:41:20,080 --> 02:41:22,880
Speaker 1: What's up? Man, queens flip that's the day of the show.

2503
02:41:23,280 --> 02:41:26,280
Speaker 1: Put the script podcast, the script podcast. Okay, so how

2504
02:41:26,360 --> 02:41:32,840
Speaker 1: did you get started? Yeah, let's keep you up. Drink

2505
02:41:33,440 --> 02:41:37,760
Speaker 1: pretty your family to your family, pretty much. We love

2506
02:41:37,800 --> 02:41:41,320
Speaker 1: what you're doing. You too, So let's it's um that's

2507
02:41:41,360 --> 02:41:43,240
Speaker 1: the beginning of the podcast. Yeah, I mean, so me,

2508
02:41:43,400 --> 02:41:45,960
Speaker 1: me and Queens Flip is you know, good friends for

2509
02:41:46,080 --> 02:41:48,840
Speaker 1: like fifteen plus years now. So I met him. He

2510
02:41:49,000 --> 02:41:51,840
Speaker 1: was doing music. He was rapping DJ it was wrapping.

2511
02:41:51,920 --> 02:41:57,960
Speaker 1: He was rapping. He was wrapping some songs on YouTube. Sorry, Flip, sorry, Flips,

2512
02:41:59,240 --> 02:42:01,480
Speaker 1: it's gonna be bad. He might be a little mad,

2513
02:42:01,520 --> 02:42:08,800
Speaker 1: but but he's always mad, you know. So like so

2514
02:42:08,840 --> 02:42:11,680
Speaker 1: like many people who who know Queen's Flip, when you

2515
02:42:11,760 --> 02:42:13,640
Speaker 1: first meet him, it's kind of like he gives you

2516
02:42:13,760 --> 02:42:16,520
Speaker 1: like a little test or I called the test flight.

2517
02:42:16,560 --> 02:42:18,840
Speaker 1: Everybody who's he's close to he kind of like presses

2518
02:42:18,879 --> 02:42:20,000
Speaker 1: you a little bit. When I first met him, he

2519
02:42:20,040 --> 02:42:22,320
Speaker 1: kind of pressed me about playing song, and we had

2520
02:42:22,440 --> 02:42:24,600
Speaker 1: like a little I'm like yea, you know, like like

2521
02:42:24,680 --> 02:42:26,240
Speaker 1: it out of here? Yeah, do you have big tapes

2522
02:42:26,840 --> 02:42:29,600
Speaker 1: hit me? Yeah? Yeah? Makes say but he wanted hit

2523
02:42:29,640 --> 02:42:33,680
Speaker 1: song played at this Uh at Rochester had a Rochester Day,

2524
02:42:34,120 --> 02:42:36,240
Speaker 1: Rochester Day and Queens, so he wanted to get his

2525
02:42:36,320 --> 02:42:40,360
Speaker 1: song played. Yeah, so you want to get his song played? Uh?

2526
02:42:41,000 --> 02:42:43,200
Speaker 1: I wasn't d J my friend was DJ said like,

2527
02:42:43,200 --> 02:42:44,880
Speaker 1: you'll tell you man to play the record. I'm like, yeah, bro,

2528
02:42:45,040 --> 02:42:47,000
Speaker 1: like come on, he's pressing me. So from this is

2529
02:42:47,000 --> 02:42:49,280
Speaker 1: when we kind of first started to get cool back then.

2530
02:42:49,360 --> 02:42:51,840
Speaker 1: But the podcast started because um, I had my own

2531
02:42:51,920 --> 02:42:55,680
Speaker 1: radio show that that got uh like serious satellite all

2532
02:42:55,720 --> 02:42:57,080
Speaker 1: dover to the row. He was a call his radio

2533
02:42:57,160 --> 02:42:59,200
Speaker 1: like type of ship was on DTAX. We actually interview

2534
02:42:59,440 --> 02:43:02,240
Speaker 1: on dtver the So I don't want to you on DTF.

2535
02:43:02,320 --> 02:43:04,960
Speaker 1: We interview years ago, So that that show stopped, and

2536
02:43:04,959 --> 02:43:07,360
Speaker 1: then um people kept saying, yo, you want flip do

2537
02:43:07,440 --> 02:43:08,880
Speaker 1: you do your own show? That's your man, right, he

2538
02:43:08,959 --> 02:43:11,520
Speaker 1: going viral, going crazy? You and his personality is kind

2539
02:43:11,560 --> 02:43:14,560
Speaker 1: of different. It'll mesh, you know what I'm saying. So

2540
02:43:15,000 --> 02:43:18,320
Speaker 1: we did our first episode about four years ago. Who

2541
02:43:18,440 --> 02:43:20,320
Speaker 1: was that with? So our first episode, you know, he

2542
02:43:20,320 --> 02:43:21,680
Speaker 1: wanted to come out of the gate. You know. His

2543
02:43:21,800 --> 02:43:24,680
Speaker 1: idea was the make some noise and and get a

2544
02:43:24,720 --> 02:43:29,400
Speaker 1: little crazy. Not yet the gangsters came a little later.

2545
02:43:29,600 --> 02:43:32,560
Speaker 1: Episode one we have we had a girl uh give

2546
02:43:32,680 --> 02:43:35,280
Speaker 1: a little bit of you know, yaw ya on camera

2547
02:43:40,320 --> 02:43:44,040
Speaker 1: without crashing. Yeah. Episode one, you know, because we felt like,

2548
02:43:44,160 --> 02:43:48,400
Speaker 1: you know, the podcast game is going crazy right now.

2549
02:43:48,480 --> 02:43:50,320
Speaker 1: We got people like you know, Charlotte Magne, these other

2550
02:43:50,360 --> 02:43:52,880
Speaker 1: guys who are doing shows, Envy, you know, they're doing

2551
02:43:52,920 --> 02:43:54,840
Speaker 1: their podcast who we kind of wanted to make a

2552
02:43:54,920 --> 02:43:57,560
Speaker 1: name for ourselves. So we started out by by interviewing

2553
02:43:57,600 --> 02:44:00,960
Speaker 1: the guy, um while he was to give what the

2554
02:44:01,000 --> 02:44:02,840
Speaker 1: guy was receiving, we did to do with him and

2555
02:44:03,200 --> 02:44:08,400
Speaker 1: see if wait wait wait wait a second, a second.

2556
02:44:09,040 --> 02:44:11,320
Speaker 1: So that was the game. That was like episode one.

2557
02:44:11,920 --> 02:44:14,200
Speaker 1: Y'all set it up like you're gonna get head while

2558
02:44:14,240 --> 02:44:17,040
Speaker 1: we give you the interview, or did it happen that

2559
02:44:17,200 --> 02:44:20,760
Speaker 1: the guy? So I we interviewed the escort, right, and

2560
02:44:21,360 --> 02:44:25,480
Speaker 1: escort as the guy the girl. The girl John walked

2561
02:44:25,520 --> 02:44:27,680
Speaker 1: in and then he walked in and we let them

2562
02:44:27,720 --> 02:44:29,400
Speaker 1: set up, let them get comfortable, and left the room.

2563
02:44:29,440 --> 02:44:31,760
Speaker 1: Came back in the room and we started asking her

2564
02:44:31,760 --> 02:44:34,400
Speaker 1: and asking him how good she was, and you know,

2565
02:44:34,560 --> 02:44:37,320
Speaker 1: just to see what if she's performing to the to

2566
02:44:37,440 --> 02:44:42,120
Speaker 1: the her ability to see what I'm saying, drink pal.

2567
02:44:46,760 --> 02:44:50,880
Speaker 1: You know. We went from there to Eddie that is

2568
02:44:50,920 --> 02:44:53,720
Speaker 1: he gonna have to step it up, man, let me

2569
02:44:53,800 --> 02:45:00,080
Speaker 1: tell you step it up. From there. From there, you know,

2570
02:45:00,160 --> 02:45:01,800
Speaker 1: we had a bunch of the guests on the show,

2571
02:45:01,840 --> 02:45:05,280
Speaker 1: and then um, somebody stabbed somebody that we got we

2572
02:45:05,400 --> 02:45:07,920
Speaker 1: got to beamy. We have Bammy on the show. Right,

2573
02:45:08,160 --> 02:45:11,120
Speaker 1: we have Bammy and we had uh shake Davis, we

2574
02:45:11,240 --> 02:45:14,120
Speaker 1: had Supreme something to show some people like that. And

2575
02:45:14,200 --> 02:45:16,880
Speaker 1: then we realized that the oldiest wanted to see those

2576
02:45:16,879 --> 02:45:20,359
Speaker 1: stories hit those stories. So we started interviewing all the um'

2577
02:45:21,600 --> 02:45:28,880
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, we we had we had Kevin y'alla.

2578
02:45:30,080 --> 02:45:31,760
Speaker 1: But the crowd, you know, the crowd is funding. I

2579
02:45:31,800 --> 02:45:35,320
Speaker 1: think we had our first like NYC Blood. Uh the

2580
02:45:35,560 --> 02:45:37,720
Speaker 1: o g s on our showing. The numbers went crazy.

2581
02:45:38,200 --> 02:45:39,720
Speaker 1: So after that's all right, this is we gotta go.

2582
02:45:39,760 --> 02:45:41,600
Speaker 1: We gotta talking the street. But doesn't that kind of

2583
02:45:41,640 --> 02:45:44,800
Speaker 1: commit you to that, like once you you wanted, don't

2584
02:45:44,840 --> 02:45:48,560
Speaker 1: you gotta commit it to be doing everyone? Because now, alright, cool,

2585
02:45:48,680 --> 02:45:52,439
Speaker 1: this guy says, I'm the NYC Blood ship just familiar,

2586
02:45:52,720 --> 02:45:55,840
Speaker 1: but this is why I said I'm the first YC Blood. Yeah,

2587
02:45:56,440 --> 02:45:58,640
Speaker 1: And then this one said I'm the first NYC creb.

2588
02:45:59,200 --> 02:46:01,960
Speaker 1: Like what does that bring y'all that that well, I mean,

2589
02:46:02,040 --> 02:46:06,080
Speaker 1: you know, we don't know who's official, right because we

2590
02:46:06,360 --> 02:46:09,120
Speaker 1: weren't there and writers and when everything he first started.

2591
02:46:09,200 --> 02:46:12,040
Speaker 1: So we get the first guy and then he co

2592
02:46:12,200 --> 02:46:13,800
Speaker 1: signs the next guy like, yeah, I was there with

2593
02:46:13,879 --> 02:46:17,920
Speaker 1: him Brooklyn cav got a coach signs, so you go

2594
02:46:18,040 --> 02:46:19,640
Speaker 1: that way. But of course my phone wasn't going crazy.

2595
02:46:19,720 --> 02:46:22,440
Speaker 1: For the rest of the world, Like everyone is saying anybody,

2596
02:46:22,800 --> 02:46:25,520
Speaker 1: how how tough you are. There's always someone who says

2597
02:46:25,600 --> 02:46:29,640
Speaker 1: he pussy right. There's always someone tough about how rich

2598
02:46:29,720 --> 02:46:31,520
Speaker 1: you are. There's always someone to say you bro, that's

2599
02:46:31,520 --> 02:46:34,720
Speaker 1: the fact. Pussy you guys always someone to say that

2600
02:46:34,840 --> 02:46:40,280
Speaker 1: you don't get nothing went to But you understand what

2601
02:46:40,280 --> 02:46:43,480
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So so how do you balance that because

2602
02:46:43,480 --> 02:46:45,680
Speaker 1: I can't. Yeah. I mean, you know, like I said,

2603
02:46:45,680 --> 02:46:47,600
Speaker 1: we have we had guys like like like killing Cab

2604
02:46:47,680 --> 02:46:49,560
Speaker 1: and you know O G Nooking, you know, so be

2605
02:46:50,760 --> 02:46:52,440
Speaker 1: we had them, we had them confirmed. I right, this

2606
02:46:52,480 --> 02:46:54,720
Speaker 1: guy's valot, this guy's valid, and then you know we

2607
02:46:55,040 --> 02:46:58,480
Speaker 1: try to go to uh, there's always somebody that Yeah,

2608
02:46:58,560 --> 02:47:00,520
Speaker 1: but I think I thought I was left him because

2609
02:47:00,520 --> 02:47:02,080
Speaker 1: it's now as everybody want to get the ball once

2610
02:47:02,320 --> 02:47:04,600
Speaker 1: because you said you said the numbers weren't crazy, so

2611
02:47:05,320 --> 02:47:07,840
Speaker 1: it would allude to that. That's what inspires you to

2612
02:47:07,920 --> 02:47:12,119
Speaker 1: keep going, Like, at what point does the numbers going crazy?

2613
02:47:12,200 --> 02:47:16,040
Speaker 1: Not like it becomes detrimental to what, you know, to

2614
02:47:16,280 --> 02:47:18,680
Speaker 1: the platform. I mean, you know, like like I said,

2615
02:47:18,680 --> 02:47:20,280
Speaker 1: at a certain point, we kind of just slowed down

2616
02:47:20,360 --> 02:47:22,480
Speaker 1: with it. We felt like everyone in New York wanted

2617
02:47:22,480 --> 02:47:25,960
Speaker 1: to get their story heard, and everyone that gays do y'all. Yeah,

2618
02:47:26,120 --> 02:47:29,240
Speaker 1: It's like I was so happy that they came to you.

2619
02:47:31,360 --> 02:47:33,280
Speaker 1: I was so happy. I was like, oh, yeah, go

2620
02:47:33,360 --> 02:47:37,040
Speaker 1: to these Yes, yes, because I've watched it everything. He

2621
02:47:37,080 --> 02:47:38,560
Speaker 1: took it. We took it. And then I think we

2622
02:47:38,600 --> 02:47:41,080
Speaker 1: went from there. So we started interviewing people who just

2623
02:47:41,160 --> 02:47:43,400
Speaker 1: came home that did twenty thirty years and did they

2624
02:47:43,440 --> 02:47:46,200
Speaker 1: hit their story about whether they was accused you know,

2625
02:47:46,440 --> 02:47:50,360
Speaker 1: uh fALS somebody that always refused their story of course,

2626
02:47:50,600 --> 02:47:55,120
Speaker 1: of course, of course. But you know, we went from

2627
02:47:55,160 --> 02:47:56,880
Speaker 1: there and just started growing and just getting different guests,

2628
02:47:56,920 --> 02:47:58,560
Speaker 1: and you know, we kind of ran We ran SMS Jones.

2629
02:47:59,160 --> 02:48:01,920
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, something down a whole new

2630
02:48:02,280 --> 02:48:05,320
Speaker 1: uh uh show with miss Jones. They got a whole

2631
02:48:05,360 --> 02:48:09,520
Speaker 1: new show. Yeah, Queenslip and Jones Thursday, So it's on

2632
02:48:09,640 --> 02:48:12,080
Speaker 1: Thursday nights. He calls it me and Miss Jones, I

2633
02:48:12,240 --> 02:48:15,200
Speaker 1: call it the King and I and we just like

2634
02:48:15,240 --> 02:48:17,680
Speaker 1: the group, The King and I remember the Nobody. Remember

2635
02:48:17,680 --> 02:48:19,440
Speaker 1: the King and I. I thought that was dope. That

2636
02:48:19,560 --> 02:48:21,760
Speaker 1: group was dope. Well it was the artist. It was

2637
02:48:21,840 --> 02:48:28,640
Speaker 1: one artist at right. But no flip flip Thursday nights

2638
02:48:29,120 --> 02:48:31,520
Speaker 1: nights and let me ask yourself, because you say you've

2639
02:48:31,520 --> 02:48:34,480
Speaker 1: got something on Monday, that's my reunion job, Miss Jones,

2640
02:48:34,600 --> 02:48:37,600
Speaker 1: reunion if you want, where did you drop your audio

2641
02:48:37,800 --> 02:48:40,680
Speaker 1: of that? So we tape it Sunday night me dj

2642
02:48:40,959 --> 02:48:46,880
Speaker 1: n V from the Breakfast club. Like Sean, Yeah, sometimes Ebro,

2643
02:48:47,080 --> 02:48:51,400
Speaker 1: you know, he's shakes, he's the reporter, he's the edge

2644
02:48:51,400 --> 02:48:53,600
Speaker 1: of the ship. No, he comes on the show, but

2645
02:48:53,680 --> 02:48:56,920
Speaker 1: he's like after he caught COVID, he like fell back

2646
02:48:57,160 --> 02:49:00,440
Speaker 1: and I didn't want to push and like the core

2647
02:49:00,520 --> 02:49:04,120
Speaker 1: of the show is me Enva, Mike, Sean. Anyway, so

2648
02:49:04,240 --> 02:49:11,640
Speaker 1: we do every Sunday. Last week we had every Week's

2649
02:49:11,680 --> 02:49:14,520
Speaker 1: really a good guy man, please me, please, still gotta

2650
02:49:14,520 --> 02:49:17,320
Speaker 1: stop coming to his house. He gotta stop. So so

2651
02:49:17,440 --> 02:49:19,400
Speaker 1: I just want to tell you that Envy has not

2652
02:49:19,520 --> 02:49:21,680
Speaker 1: shown up for the last two weeks because he thinks

2653
02:49:22,040 --> 02:49:27,080
Speaker 1: that I'm down with Flip in these skits. Yes, okay,

2654
02:49:28,080 --> 02:49:31,720
Speaker 1: that's that's that's Flip and Envy is playing these skits out.

2655
02:49:32,280 --> 02:49:38,080
Speaker 1: I'm not there, bro, I don't do So they knew

2656
02:49:38,200 --> 02:49:41,800
Speaker 1: of each other, but their main connection is me. So

2657
02:49:41,920 --> 02:49:45,000
Speaker 1: I'm like Envy, he's good, and Flip wanted this first

2658
02:49:45,080 --> 02:49:47,800
Speaker 1: from beating. So I introduced that we don't believe this,

2659
02:49:47,840 --> 02:49:51,039
Speaker 1: Miss Jones will be an earnest. Well, we see Flip

2660
02:49:51,560 --> 02:49:54,360
Speaker 1: up over the game, but here's what happens. And he said,

2661
02:49:54,600 --> 02:49:58,960
Speaker 1: come come for the verse on Wednesday at three, right,

2662
02:50:00,200 --> 02:50:04,600
Speaker 1: Flip shows up Monday at one, So I believe that point. Yeah,

2663
02:50:06,040 --> 02:50:09,360
Speaker 1: and then he showed up early, like early with the

2664
02:50:09,440 --> 02:50:13,320
Speaker 1: bullshit and so but now it's funny, like I look

2665
02:50:13,360 --> 02:50:15,880
Speaker 1: forward to the Envy and and and Flips gets in.

2666
02:50:16,000 --> 02:50:18,800
Speaker 1: I don't know, but Envy's like, oh, he showed me

2667
02:50:18,879 --> 02:50:21,800
Speaker 1: phone records. You're talking to him twenty minutes before he

2668
02:50:21,879 --> 02:50:25,080
Speaker 1: breaks in my house. He brought a mariachi band and

2669
02:50:25,160 --> 02:50:32,879
Speaker 1: you didn't say nothing. And so I'm just trying to like, yeah, honest,

2670
02:50:33,040 --> 02:50:35,000
Speaker 1: can I have a bottle to go? You could have

2671
02:50:35,200 --> 02:50:42,320
Speaker 1: this bottle to go for you right there, I am,

2672
02:50:44,400 --> 02:50:46,440
Speaker 1: But do you want to wanting to drink right here,

2673
02:50:46,640 --> 02:50:51,320
Speaker 1: Like I said, I sip because it just black because

2674
02:50:51,320 --> 02:50:54,160
Speaker 1: I was doing the said a little bit, which, yeah,

2675
02:50:54,160 --> 02:50:58,640
Speaker 1: because I was doing the then I need to sip

2676
02:50:58,720 --> 02:51:05,080
Speaker 1: a bit. Listen, this is this is blackways. I'll have

2677
02:51:05,200 --> 02:51:07,720
Speaker 1: a sad Yeah you can take that to go. Yeah

2678
02:51:08,760 --> 02:51:20,240
Speaker 1: the whole cop oh the better. So so what was wanted?

2679
02:51:20,640 --> 02:51:23,760
Speaker 1: What was your interview? You'll wish your did what we

2680
02:51:23,800 --> 02:51:29,320
Speaker 1: didn't do. I think it could be politically direct right there, man, easy,

2681
02:51:29,800 --> 02:51:35,600
Speaker 1: I know, I know, I know because on the podcast

2682
02:51:35,760 --> 02:51:39,160
Speaker 1: right if you see like flippers, the one that's I'm

2683
02:51:39,160 --> 02:51:40,680
Speaker 1: the one that's kind of like mellow. So a question

2684
02:51:40,720 --> 02:51:42,480
Speaker 1: like that for me is like to answer that as

2685
02:51:42,560 --> 02:51:44,880
Speaker 1: like tough. But you know, we here, we drink chance man,

2686
02:51:45,000 --> 02:51:52,040
Speaker 1: um haven't been here. This is your drinks, that's your shot.

2687
02:51:55,680 --> 02:52:02,080
Speaker 1: That's two different things. There's an interview did that I

2688
02:52:02,160 --> 02:52:06,119
Speaker 1: couldn't get here because the guests because the guests didn't

2689
02:52:06,120 --> 02:52:11,320
Speaker 1: want to to be heir it okay? Who um? Terry Woods,

2690
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Speaker 1: the author, the book author, Why what does she write?

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Speaker 1: She wrote, black Man? She wrote true to the game,

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Speaker 1: true to the game. That's the people because wait a minute,

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Speaker 1: he would you better say, I mean you asked me

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Speaker 1: what an interview? We regret that we did. So she

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Speaker 1: comes to the part I regret it because we couldn't

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02:52:34,680 --> 02:52:37,320
Speaker 1: hear it. What happened something? I think it was a

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02:52:37,360 --> 02:52:41,840
Speaker 1: great show. It was a great time. Um uh. After

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02:52:42,440 --> 02:52:45,119
Speaker 1: after the interview, she called and felt like we asked

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02:52:45,160 --> 02:52:48,120
Speaker 1: the crazy questions and she didn't like the questions whatever

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Speaker 1: she didn't want Can you give me a example of

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02:52:52,480 --> 02:52:54,320
Speaker 1: garth the crazy questions? But we can be kind of

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02:52:54,320 --> 02:52:55,840
Speaker 1: asked a lot of the same questions we all, I guess,

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Speaker 1: like you know about when it came up and you know,

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Speaker 1: uh not like drink chance where he was like, did

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02:53:01,080 --> 02:53:07,480
Speaker 1: you eat? As I be honest, I don't actually we asked,

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02:53:07,520 --> 02:53:12,400
Speaker 1: I be honest. You eat a lot of EA ain't

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Speaker 1: gonna come, but you eat asked. I'm gonna pick either,

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02:53:14,800 --> 02:53:23,920
Speaker 1: but you've ate asked, never asked before. The night is

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02:53:23,959 --> 02:53:38,560
Speaker 1: still young? Yeah, Mary, I tell you carry on now.

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02:53:38,640 --> 02:53:47,480
Speaker 1: I jumped always come on you big now now crazy

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Speaker 1: right now? I think I think one of the questions

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02:53:50,920 --> 02:53:55,440
Speaker 1: we asked her was uh because her whole come up

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02:53:55,480 --> 02:53:57,640
Speaker 1: when she was grinding like that, we asked her did

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02:53:57,680 --> 02:54:00,680
Speaker 1: she sleep with anybody? On the way up and she

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02:54:00,760 --> 02:54:03,080
Speaker 1: said no. We asked her again, but we done to

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02:54:03,080 --> 02:54:05,160
Speaker 1: all our guests. We asked some questions about their past

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02:54:05,240 --> 02:54:06,520
Speaker 1: and who they you know, who they slept but when

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02:54:06,520 --> 02:54:08,320
Speaker 1: they you know, did this without of that? But she

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02:54:08,440 --> 02:54:10,520
Speaker 1: kind of. But we had a great interview. It was great,

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02:54:10,560 --> 02:54:12,880
Speaker 1: We had fun. She left, she was happy, but um,

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02:54:13,120 --> 02:54:15,000
Speaker 1: I said, regretted because like, you know, I feel like

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02:54:16,320 --> 02:54:17,800
Speaker 1: I wanted to put that show up. It was it

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02:54:17,879 --> 02:54:19,120
Speaker 1: was a good time, was good in view. We had

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02:54:19,120 --> 02:54:21,840
Speaker 1: a good time. She she felt away afterwards that we

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02:54:21,959 --> 02:54:24,280
Speaker 1: were coming at her and we were talking down the

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Speaker 1: of the advocate. For one second. I've been in this

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02:54:28,640 --> 02:54:32,120
Speaker 1: gate twenty two years. No one's ever asked me who

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02:54:32,160 --> 02:54:34,240
Speaker 1: I slept with. And I think asking a woman that

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02:54:34,440 --> 02:54:37,440
Speaker 1: is he's the crazy. I'm so sorry. So I'm just

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02:54:37,480 --> 02:54:42,480
Speaker 1: trying to but I asked her that three times. This

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02:54:42,600 --> 02:54:45,960
Speaker 1: is my sister, and I said that three times. She

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02:54:46,120 --> 02:54:48,400
Speaker 1: didn't even think of that to ask me back, Well,

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02:54:48,440 --> 02:54:51,920
Speaker 1: you didn't ask that, No, I asked, no, not asked directly.

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02:54:52,040 --> 02:54:55,080
Speaker 1: I just said, you know, and that's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: So you don't think that's like advantage of sometimes like

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02:55:00,080 --> 02:55:03,039
Speaker 1: but like all right, so, because like, so if I would.

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Speaker 1: What I'm saying is, I'm write a couple of the

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Speaker 1: Queze Flip Show y'all and y'all don't think. I don't

2739
02:55:07,680 --> 02:55:10,040
Speaker 1: think you'all would ask me that we would? And why

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02:55:10,080 --> 02:55:13,560
Speaker 1: would you ask her that you wouldn't ask him a shot?

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02:55:14,560 --> 02:55:17,800
Speaker 1: We actually we don't ask You don't ask you what fun?

2742
02:55:17,920 --> 02:55:22,240
Speaker 1: So I'm telling you you shot you be talking about

2743
02:55:22,240 --> 02:55:25,640
Speaker 1: this ship I've been watching, Yeah, and then who ima who?

2744
02:55:25,720 --> 02:55:29,160
Speaker 1: I pushed it so but you never you never blow

2745
02:55:29,320 --> 02:55:33,039
Speaker 1: so one thing like you said, you asked me, that's fun?

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Speaker 1: You asked me joining at three time you said, yeah,

2747
02:55:35,480 --> 02:55:37,280
Speaker 1: she won't I feel like she won't leave him, and

2748
02:55:37,360 --> 02:55:40,880
Speaker 1: be like, oh no, in three different ways. Ask me

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Speaker 1: why he tried to keep that I know how to

2750
02:55:43,240 --> 02:55:45,800
Speaker 1: do it. Yeah, but but she won't feel the way though.

2751
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Speaker 1: You know, I don't think you leave here feeling the way.

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Speaker 1: Do what I'm saying, I'm so will you asked when

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02:55:51,240 --> 02:55:56,440
Speaker 1: you said you'll ask, I asked you did you do? She? Actually? Yeah,

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02:55:56,560 --> 02:55:58,920
Speaker 1: she would know what I'm saying. When he said to

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02:55:59,400 --> 02:56:01,640
Speaker 1: Tebry what yeah, you said you let it too, that

2756
02:56:01,760 --> 02:56:04,720
Speaker 1: you asked her. Yo, You're sleeping somebody to get to

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Speaker 1: the top. But in those words, I like that, she responded.

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Speaker 1: She responded that question. The whole interview was done. We

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Speaker 1: did the whole interview and we left, and it shows up.

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Speaker 1: She's like, you had a great time. This was dope laughing,

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02:56:18,800 --> 02:56:19,920
Speaker 1: you know. And then I guess she went home and

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02:56:19,959 --> 02:56:22,560
Speaker 1: thought about it. She went home and spoke to somebody

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02:56:23,280 --> 02:56:27,240
Speaker 1: and it said, don't use it. Yeah, I can't post

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Speaker 1: it up. YadA, I don't. I don't appreciate what you

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Speaker 1: guys did. You guys, you guys conduct a bad show, YadA, YadA.

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Speaker 1: Don't give us all these bad reviews. I'm gonna form

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Speaker 1: potius to her, like, yo, right the show comes out,

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02:56:41,360 --> 02:56:43,520
Speaker 1: they're telling you bad show. Didn't come out yet, So

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02:56:43,520 --> 02:56:45,280
Speaker 1: how did they telling you bad review? Well, she's seen

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02:56:45,360 --> 02:56:47,440
Speaker 1: bad reviews as far as like, she feels like, we

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Speaker 1: don't conduct a good show, we don't ask good questions

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Speaker 1: and things like that. When we already did the whole

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Speaker 1: interview and she told us that we had to shad

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Speaker 1: a good time, she signed a release. No, no, just

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Speaker 1: kid came side. At least right now, let listen be great,

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Speaker 1: you guys says it's good. Yeah, yeah, listen, hold on,

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Speaker 1: you know that's real, and it happened sometimes, Like I said,

2778
02:57:19,760 --> 02:57:22,520
Speaker 1: happens all the time. It happens all the time, and

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02:57:22,680 --> 02:57:25,600
Speaker 1: women starting faith and she would staring chair herself with me.

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Speaker 1: So I was even though that question I asked it

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02:57:28,240 --> 02:57:30,040
Speaker 1: was a little distasteful. She knew it was a show,

2782
02:57:30,680 --> 02:57:34,320
Speaker 1: but she was surprised that I wasn't more jonesy with her.

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02:57:34,400 --> 02:57:37,520
Speaker 1: But I feel like that was Stevie j more so.

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02:57:37,760 --> 02:57:40,240
Speaker 1: So you don't know, and you would not have know.

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02:57:40,840 --> 02:57:43,199
Speaker 1: Would I have known if it was an outside influence

2786
02:57:43,280 --> 02:57:46,640
Speaker 1: that after the fact said fall backccess, don't let that

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Speaker 1: interview come out. I love you, man, this is a

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02:57:50,920 --> 02:57:53,360
Speaker 1: great contact. Man. I can't, I can't, I can't be

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Speaker 1: asked the boy question was great, a little full though.

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Speaker 1: You know this is great. Thanks for joining us for

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Speaker 1: another episode of Drink Champs hosted by Yours truly, d

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