1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:02,520 Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning. 2 00:00:02,640 --> 00:00:05,200 Speaker 2: The Breakfast Club morning. 3 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 3: Everybody is DJ n V Charlamagne the guy. We are 4 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 3: the Breakfast Club. You got a special guest in the building. Yes, 5 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 3: indeed I know miss DJ Vlad, but everybody else knows 6 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 3: Miss blad TV. Flat here, what a lad? 7 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 1: What's up? And Charlaine, it's been a minute. 8 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:20,600 Speaker 2: You know, we really can't call you DJ bladinmore. Why 9 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 2: do we call you? You haven't been a DJ, but. 10 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 1: He started off as a DJ exactly. Yeah. 11 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 2: Man. 12 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 4: First of all, Blad, I want to tell you congratulations 13 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:32,479 Speaker 4: because you you are responsible for helping the family of 14 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 4: Tupac's your corps get justice enclosure. Because of some of 15 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:37,920 Speaker 4: your interviews you did with Keith d on Blad TV. 16 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:39,879 Speaker 4: I have already said it. I think you should win 17 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:43,159 Speaker 4: a Peabody. If you was any other journalist outside of 18 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:45,200 Speaker 4: hip hop, I think you would get get some type 19 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 4: of an award for that. 20 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:46,519 Speaker 1: Thank you. 21 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 2: How do you feel? 22 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:51,839 Speaker 1: I mean, the purpose wasn't really for him to get 23 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 1: locked up or anything else like that, because, as I've 24 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 1: said before, when Las Vegas ped reached out to me, 25 00:00:56,880 --> 00:00:59,639 Speaker 1: I didn't respond. I didn't cooperate. You know, my whole thing. 26 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 1: Was this the story I'd heard for I mean for 27 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:05,319 Speaker 1: a long time, for close to about eighteen years or so, 28 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 1: and by actually sitting down with Keify getting his whole 29 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:10,759 Speaker 1: story from beginning to end, at the end of the interview, 30 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, I pretty much saw the case at 31 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:14,759 Speaker 1: this point. A shout out to Greg Kating, who actually 32 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 1: got the you know, the original KVD confession. But in 33 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 1: terms of the public that was the first time Kify 34 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 1: actually told the entire story of how it happened, what 35 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:26,320 Speaker 1: led up to it, what happened that night, what happened afterwards. So, 36 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:28,039 Speaker 1: I mean, ultimately, I don't think anyone could really be 37 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 1: surprised welcome. 38 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 3: That was going to ask, you know, during the interview, 39 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 3: because it's crazy when he was when he was arrested. 40 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:38,039 Speaker 3: You go down this rabbit hole of things that you 41 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:41,480 Speaker 3: know that you've investigated, that you've done interviews with. I 42 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 3: thought from maybe the interviews it made it seem like 43 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:46,760 Speaker 3: he had a deal already on the table. Was any 44 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 3: of that true? Like that thought that was the reason 45 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 3: why he was able to talk about. 46 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 1: It, right, So he had a profit agreement. So when 47 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 1: Greg Katy met up with him, keefd was Greg Katying. 48 00:01:56,600 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 1: Greg Katy was was an LAPD investigator who was looking 49 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 1: into the entire case. So he had caught Keefe in 50 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 1: this huge PCP ring and Keify was facing life in prison. 51 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 1: So what happened was there's something called a profit agreement 52 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 1: aka queen for a day, meaning that you could sit 53 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:14,679 Speaker 1: down with someone and they could ask you a whole 54 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 1: bunch of questions and you could admit to all the 55 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 1: crimes you did that day and you can't be charged 56 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 1: with any of those crimes, and in exchange, they dropped 57 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:26,080 Speaker 1: the whole PCP case against him. He was able to 58 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 1: walk free. But the thing about profit agreements, from what 59 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 1: I understand, is that it's called queen for a day 60 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:33,920 Speaker 1: because it's only valid that particular day. So if you 61 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 1: choose to retell that story afterwards, you could potentially get 62 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 1: charged for it. It's a little bit of a gray area, 63 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 1: you know. And I think that his lawyer is probably 64 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 1: going to be fighting in terms of that. But I 65 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:44,240 Speaker 1: think Kefy was in an assumption that he said at 66 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 1: once he could say it as many times as he wants, 67 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 1: and I don't think that's the case when it comes 68 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 1: to profer agreements. 69 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 4: When you say that Vegas police wanted you to cooperate, 70 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:53,359 Speaker 4: what did that mean. 71 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 1: I think they wanted the raw footage. Okay. I actually 72 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 1: have the voicemails from them, like, oh, we've been trying 73 00:02:57,600 --> 00:03:00,120 Speaker 1: to reach you and everything else like that, and I 74 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 1: think they they thought that maybe there's a bunch of 75 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 1: things in because we did two interviews that they could 76 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 1: use in the case that we didn't publicly release. But 77 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 1: if you know vlat TV and both of you have 78 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 1: been on flat TV, we use damn near every second 79 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 1: of the footage, so they're kind of barking up the 80 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 1: wrong tree. But my whole thing was that if someone 81 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 1: interviews on my platform, I'm not going to turn around 82 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 1: and then work with the police against them, regardless of 83 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 1: what it is that they said. It's just business wise, 84 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 1: you know, in terms of my values. It's not what 85 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 1: I do. So I didn't choose to cooperate. 86 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 4: By the way, what could they ask you that they 87 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:37,559 Speaker 4: didn't hear themselves. 88 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 2: It's all out. 89 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 1: There, and he's done multiple interviews. It's not just Flat TV. Yeah, 90 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 1: he did that. He did a few other ones. So 91 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 1: it's kind of like. 92 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 2: He wrote a book. 93 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 1: He wrote a book. Well, and that's the whole thing. 94 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 1: People thought that I got this whole confession out of 95 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 1: the blue, like before we did the interview, we got 96 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 1: a copy of the book. We read through the entire book, 97 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 1: and that interview was the blueprint of that interview was 98 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 1: that book. So there are certain parts where I asked 99 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 1: him a question he didn't really want to answer it. 100 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 1: My thing was like, well, the book says X, Y 101 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 1: and Z and then so he had to kind of 102 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 1: address that. But if you write a book about a crime, 103 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 1: I have no problems interviewing you about the book that 104 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 1: you wrote. 105 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:16,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, well I had a question. 106 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 3: You know, you did this Kifid interview how long ago? 107 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:20,599 Speaker 1: Four years ago? 108 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 2: Four years ago. 109 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 3: Isn't it kind of strange that he's arrested recently opposed 110 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:26,720 Speaker 3: to because I mean, the book was out before you 111 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 3: did the interview, so it almost seemed like nobody cared 112 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 3: until actually you did the interview and it started getting 113 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:32,839 Speaker 3: a little press. 114 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 1: Man, the wheels of justice turned slowly. You know, it 115 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:39,920 Speaker 1: takes a while to line everything up. You know what 116 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 1: I'm saying, I mean, I guess. I mean, I'm not 117 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 1: involved in the case, and it's really up to Las Vegas, 118 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:45,919 Speaker 1: PD and KIFY at the end of the day. But 119 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:49,040 Speaker 1: it takes a while to line something up, especially as 120 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 1: epic and huge as this. And it happened what twenty 121 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 1: six years ago, Yeah, back in nineteen ninety six. Like 122 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:58,159 Speaker 1: a lot has to be done in order to get 123 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 1: a conviction, and it's not easy because the last thing 124 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 1: that they want to do is go and spend you 125 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 1: know whatever, potentially millions of dollars on the case for 126 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:07,840 Speaker 1: it to be found not guilty or just dismissed. 127 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 4: Right, And it's not even just a KVD interview that 128 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:13,119 Speaker 4: I think, you know, I would say constitution winning something 129 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 4: like a Peabody. It's all the interviews you did surrounding it. 130 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:17,159 Speaker 4: It's to be Grey Katy, who else? 131 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 2: Who? 132 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 4: Like this was the if this was the Vlad Cinematic universe, 133 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 4: what would be all the interviews you got to watch 134 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:22,119 Speaker 4: to get the full start. 135 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 1: I mean Greg, Greg Caty, who was the lead investigator, 136 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 1: Chris Carroll who was the first responder that showed up, 137 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:30,599 Speaker 1: you know, at the scene after a po got shot 138 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 1: and show got grace Edie. I mean, who's the car 139 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 1: behind Tupac when he got killed? 140 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 3: That was the young ladies that followed him. 141 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 1: Now Edie's part of the outlaws. 142 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 3: I don't know if he was in that car with 143 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 3: the with the young ladies. 144 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 1: There were no young ladies in the car. It was 145 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 1: like the cars were driving around or a bunch of 146 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 1: girls like Tupac Tupac and then Pac like popped out 147 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 1: the window and was like, Yo, what up? You know? 148 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 1: So the ladies, you know? And I think like I 149 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 1: think like Edie told me that he thought that maybe 150 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 1: he was a setup by the girls, but but it wasn't. 151 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 1: I guess the girls even got interviewed at one point 152 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 1: they were like, no, we just saw Tupaca. We were 153 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:08,040 Speaker 1: calling out to him. And that's by them calling out Tupac. 154 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:11,839 Speaker 1: That's how Kifi and them saw that. Oh Tupac is 155 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 1: right here and they've been looking for him. 156 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 2: So to watch the watch the Kifi, Greg Caning. 157 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 1: I mean, Chris Carrol. Yeah, just a lot of pieces 158 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:21,839 Speaker 1: put together. 159 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:23,720 Speaker 3: Now did he ever say it was was Pack the 160 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 3: attended target or was it Sugar the intended target? Or 161 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 3: because I didn't see that, they thought Pak was grabbing 162 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 3: a gun allegedly and they were returning fire or something 163 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 3: like that. 164 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, he didn't really. When I pressed him on that, 165 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 1: he didn't really, uh, you know, admit to that. But 166 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 1: from everything I heard, Like I remember, I talked to 167 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 1: the co writer of that book and he told me 168 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 1: that when he first met up with Kifi, he was like, look, man, 169 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:54,599 Speaker 1: I'm I'm very pro black, I'm very positive. How do 170 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 1: you feel about, you know, your role in you know, 171 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:03,360 Speaker 1: killing one of you know, one of our great hip 172 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:07,480 Speaker 1: hop icons. And Keithy's response was, they had no business 173 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 1: putting their hands on my my nephew like that, you 174 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And the thing is like everyone 175 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 1: is so shocked because it's Tupac. But right now, somewhere 176 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 1: in America, some some you know, gang affiliate gang member 177 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 1: just got beat up and is out there grabbing their 178 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 1: gun right now to go retaliate. Of course, this is 179 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:30,679 Speaker 1: standard procedure when it comes to this type of world. 180 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 1: So so everyone's shocked because it's Tupaca. We love Tupac, 181 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 1: but this is how things happen in this type of lifestyle. 182 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 4: Unfortunately, how was a Pop's family respond to you? 183 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 1: I haven't spoken directly to them, but a friend of 184 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 1: mine who knows one of Pak's sisters, on his father's 185 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 1: his biological father's side, said, you know, the family says 186 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 1: thank you so much for you know, bringing some level 187 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 1: of closure. But you know, you also got to understand 188 00:07:56,760 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 1: that he's just got arrested. He didn't get convicted. I've 189 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 1: gotten arrested, like. 190 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 191 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 1: It doesn't mean that I went to prison like anyone 192 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 1: can get arrested. So it's just the beginning of the process. 193 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 3: Have you gotten any threats from from this ever since? No, 194 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 3: I don't know. 195 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 1: I don't know. 196 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 4: You know, it's interesting when you say your intention wasn't 197 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 4: to solve the case. So I guess people would say, what, 198 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 4: what is the point of doing all of these interviews? 199 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 4: What is vlad TV's intention when he puts together all 200 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 4: of these different interviews. 201 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 1: Well, I mean when I say saw the case, my 202 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 1: intention wasn't for him to be convicted, to put him 203 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 1: in jail. Like I'm just a huge Tupac fan. Like 204 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 1: if you you know, I loved All Eyes on Me 205 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 1: is one of my favorite all time albums. I mean what, 206 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:43,560 Speaker 1: he's just such a charismatic individual. I mean, you could 207 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 1: it'd be hard to argue that Tupac is not the 208 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 1: greatest rapper of all time, you know, like shout out 209 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 1: to Tabiggie, shout out to Nipsey. But if you look 210 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 1: at worldwide, you see more Tupac murals around the world 211 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:57,320 Speaker 1: than any other rapp And that's because I think that 212 00:08:57,440 --> 00:08:59,319 Speaker 1: outside of the rapping and the good songs, there's a 213 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 1: social commentary involved in what he did. There was the 214 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 1: struggle and that everyone in every country could really relate to. 215 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:07,560 Speaker 1: So my whole thing was like, oh, this is my 216 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:10,080 Speaker 1: favorite rapper and here's a story that's unsolved. But like 217 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 1: everyone in law knew this story. It was like the 218 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:16,199 Speaker 1: worst kept secret in LA So let's try to put 219 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 1: it out there and bring out to the public because 220 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 1: there's so many conspiracy theories around it. Sug had him killed, 221 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:23,560 Speaker 1: the government had it killed, had him killed. He's in 222 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:26,080 Speaker 1: Cuba somewhere, like you know what I mean, He's still alive. 223 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:29,320 Speaker 1: He's you know, he faked his own death. It's like 224 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 1: a lot of them. It was so ridiculous that I 225 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 1: wanted to put a piece together that that had all 226 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 1: the different angles of the same story and they're all 227 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 1: matching up. Chris Carroll story matches up, you know ed, 228 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 1: I mean story matches up, you know, Greg Cating's story 229 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 1: matches up, and then Keify's story is the last puzzle 230 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 1: piece in that. 231 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 3: Now, was you were supposed to interview keefy d again 232 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 3: before he was raided up? What was that going to 233 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 3: be about or what conversation was that gonna be or 234 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 3: did he reach out to you? 235 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:55,960 Speaker 1: Well? Yeah, yeah, he reached out to me. We had 236 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 1: a conversation. He had already gotten arrested, when he already 237 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 1: got his house got raided or house got raided? 238 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:03,080 Speaker 3: Did they find a gun in there that they believe they. 239 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:05,559 Speaker 1: Found bullets which had no I mean, who's going to 240 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:10,320 Speaker 1: keep bullets from twenty seven years? Like it's crazy, But yeah, 241 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:13,199 Speaker 1: his house got raided and I'm like, all right, well, 242 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna leave it alone. But then he reached 243 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 1: out to me, had a conversation with me, and then 244 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 1: you know, his co writer was the one that who 245 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:20,679 Speaker 1: I kind of communicate with a lot when it comes 246 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 1: to this type of thing. They're like, he wants to 247 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 1: do another interview. It's like, all right, you know, we 248 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 1: gave him a deposit. You know on the interview. He 249 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 1: hadn't asked for me paid for interview yeah, I paid 250 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 1: for for both of his interviews. 251 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 2: Pays for a lot of interviews. People don't know that 252 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 2: it's like he does. 253 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:39,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, for certain interviews and other ones that I don't 254 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:42,560 Speaker 1: pay for. My regular guests all get paid. Yeah, absolutely, 255 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 1: which which makes sense. 256 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 2: Because we and T. K. 257 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:47,680 Speaker 1: Kirk, all my regular guests get paid. If you see 258 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:49,960 Speaker 1: him on flat TV over and over again, you know, 259 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 1: we make money, so we choose to compensate our guests 260 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:56,079 Speaker 1: as well. So I mean, he reached out, We gave 261 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 1: him like a small deposit, wasn't It wasn't really a 262 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:00,560 Speaker 1: lot of money, And I figured that I'm probably not 263 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:03,200 Speaker 1: going to see this again because you know, his house 264 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:05,080 Speaker 1: got raided and I was hearing that there was a 265 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 1: grand jury underway and there was a possible indictment coming. 266 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 1: And from what I understand, he hit up a few 267 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 1: other outlets and got deposits from all of them. So 268 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 1: I think he was just trying to gather up money 269 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 1: because he knew that he was about to go away. 270 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:18,679 Speaker 1: So it is what it is. To me. It was 271 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 1: not a big deal and it was to be expected. 272 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 2: And any truth to the rumor that he had like 273 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 2: cancer or something. 274 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:25,440 Speaker 1: That's why he was like, well, originally four years ago, 275 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 1: four years ago government, if you watched the BT interview 276 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 1: that he did, he said that he has cancer. So 277 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 1: I but from what I understand, he beat it or 278 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 1: is in a remission or something like that. So I 279 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:36,599 Speaker 1: think there's a certain degree of I have cancer and 280 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 1: I don't give a f about it. And I think 281 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:45,320 Speaker 1: there's also a certain degree of when the tapes got released, 282 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:47,559 Speaker 1: Like you know, for example, I talked to like BG Knockout, 283 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 1: who was friends with Orlando, Like I was told that 284 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:53,680 Speaker 1: his family was like really upset over these confession tapes, 285 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:56,320 Speaker 1: you know, him saying that you know that Orlando did 286 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 1: and everything else like that. So there was the whole 287 00:11:58,160 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 1: snitch tag that people were putting on him, and I 288 00:11:59,880 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 1: think to a certain degree he wanted to clear his 289 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:04,440 Speaker 1: name and get his side of the story out there. 290 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 1: I mean me personally, when it comes to murder, it's 291 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:10,839 Speaker 1: no satural limitations. I would have just kept my mouth shut. 292 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:13,320 Speaker 1: But I mean, like I said, they they wanted to 293 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 1: do it, so we did the interview. 294 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:16,680 Speaker 2: Now you know, this situation doesn't help. 295 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:23,560 Speaker 4: The rumors are the stigma of the lad curse. Curse 296 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 4: Lads defend people say a lot of folks get jammed 297 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 4: up after they interview with you. Do you ever feel 298 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 4: bad or regret, you know, doing those interviews after folks 299 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 4: get caught. 300 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 1: Well, this is the first interview that I'm aware of 301 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:41,440 Speaker 1: that any level of footage that we recorded is actually 302 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:44,960 Speaker 1: going to be used in a criminal case. Like every 303 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:47,719 Speaker 1: other interview we've ever done, people have talked about things 304 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:50,440 Speaker 1: that did in the past, and if they chose, they 305 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 1: chose to do a crime after the interview has nothing 306 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 1: to do with anything in the interview, you see what 307 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:58,079 Speaker 1: I'm saying. So it's kind of like the stigma's a stigma, 308 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 1: man like, like people going to say, please blattest the fans. 309 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 1: I've heard it literally for fifteen years, you know, but 310 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 1: ultimately it's just not true. But in this case, I 311 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 1: mean it is true to a certain degree. And you know, 312 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 1: if people are mad at me for helping to solve 313 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 1: the murder of the greatest rapper of all time, I'm 314 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:17,680 Speaker 1: okay with that. 315 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 4: You've been mixing it up a lot this year, lad 316 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 4: Like it feels like it's this year, Like now always 317 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 4: wonders that you're really tweeting. 318 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 1: Yeah's me. 319 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 2: How do you pick and choose what you want to 320 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:30,679 Speaker 2: talk about or who you want to say. 321 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 1: Something doing I mean things I feel strongly about, you know. 322 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 1: I mean the fact that some of these tweets have 323 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 1: gotten three, four or five seven million impressions is a 324 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 1: little bit surprising because not like I have a huge 325 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 1: Twitter account, I have like maybe two hundred thousand followers, 326 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 1: but literally some things I said have hit a nerve 327 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 1: with people. 328 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:51,440 Speaker 4: I wonder if lad the personality helps lad TV grow 329 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 4: even more. Do you think, like you being more active, 330 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 4: doing more interviews, being more active on social media, do 331 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 4: you think that helps the channel? 332 00:13:58,120 --> 00:13:58,320 Speaker 2: Girl? 333 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:01,439 Speaker 1: I mean probably probably. I mean, listen, you could do 334 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 1: all the you know, the tricks that you want, but 335 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:07,200 Speaker 1: ultimately it comes down to strong content. When we have 336 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:10,200 Speaker 1: strong content, the channel grows and things do well. Yes, 337 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:12,680 Speaker 1: you could try to go viral and everything else like that, 338 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 1: but people don't realize that a lot of times going 339 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 1: viral doesn't necessarily help your business, you know what I'm saying, Like, like, 340 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 1: we've had so many but we've had so many interviews, 341 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 1: like you know, for example, when glory Villez interviewed Neo 342 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 1: and he talked about the whole trans kids thinking about 343 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 1: how he doesn't support like a kid that's like twelve 344 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 1: years old becoming trans like, you know, the parents need 345 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 1: to step in. That went super viral and it was 346 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 1: on TMZ and it was everything else like that. But 347 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 1: a lot of times those videos they go viral that 348 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 1: are not on your own platform. So there'll be like 349 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 1: a TikTok that has like five million views, a Twitter 350 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 1: video that has two million views, but the video on 351 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 1: YouTube has like fifty thousand views, you know, and it 352 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 1: just gets stuck there. You know. Overall, that interview lost money. 353 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 1: So so people have to understand going viral and being 354 00:14:57,320 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 1: financially successful aren't always hand in hand. 355 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, I always tell folks that I put value over viral. 356 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 4: I think this generation puts viral over value value, Like 357 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 4: there's platforms that have actual value, consistent value, as opposed 358 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 4: to these platforms who you might see every now and 359 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 4: then go viral. 360 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 2: But it ain't translating into odalards. 361 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 1: We run a business man, we have twenty employees, Like, 362 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 1: my focus is on the business, not going viral. Being 363 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 1: viral is cool and it's nice to have a look 364 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 1: here and there and so forth, but it's like we've 365 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 1: been doing it for fifteen years, and it's really about 366 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 1: the business and the catalog and the important interviews that 367 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 1: we put out there. 368 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 3: Now, also recently, you did an open letter to I 369 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 3: always call it an open letter. 370 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 2: Open letter, it's kind of like an. 371 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 3: Open tweet, Yeah, to Drake and Cali. Correct, Now, why 372 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 3: did you feel like you wanted to write a tweet 373 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 3: to them? 374 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 1: Well, you sort of see what's been happening, right when 375 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 1: you used to look at the the Gayza Israel situation, 376 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 1: it's horrific. And I put out a statement about that 377 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 1: myself where I said that I feel sorry for all 378 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 1: the citizens you know from Israel and Palestine that are 379 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 1: caught up and what their leaders are choosing to do. 380 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I don't agree with what 381 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 1: Netanyahoo has done in Gaza in terms of blockading the 382 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 1: country and creating essentially an open air prison. And I 383 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 1: definitely don't support what Hamas did in terms of killing 384 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 1: hundreds of people, beheading babies and everything else like that. 385 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 1: It's a serious topic. And when I sat back and 386 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 1: looked at it, it's like, Okay, Drake is the most 387 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 1: famous Jewish person on earth essentially, right, who else could 388 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 1: could do a tour and fill out colosseums worldwide. Who's 389 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 1: Jewish besides Drake? Right, Calin is the most famous Palestinian 390 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 1: in the world. But neither one of them has said 391 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 1: anything about this at all. And people are saying, well, well, 392 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 1: they're not politicians whatever. They influence hundreds of millions of people, 393 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 1: which ultimately has an influence on the world, and you're 394 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 1: not choosing to like to say anything. And Drake, who 395 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 1: has a Jewish mother, you know, which by Jewish law 396 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:04,400 Speaker 1: makes them Jewish. But not only that, his parents got 397 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:06,120 Speaker 1: divorced when he was five years old, and he grew 398 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:08,960 Speaker 1: up with his Jewish mother and her Jewish relatives in 399 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 1: Forest Hills, which is a Jewish community in Toronto. He 400 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:16,439 Speaker 1: had a bar mitzvah. And then when this happens, he 401 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 1: doesn't say anything because I think that he doesn't want 402 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 1: to potentially affect his record sales. 403 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:22,399 Speaker 4: Well, why does he have to say anything? Him, Like, 404 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:25,160 Speaker 4: why does him Mark Kalit have to say anything publicly? 405 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 1: They don't have to say anything. But I'm saying, as 406 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 1: representatives of these communities, their voices are powerful and they 407 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 1: should say something, just like I have said something. 408 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:37,640 Speaker 4: What it is supposed to say, though, But you're educated 409 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 4: on the topic, clearly. 410 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 1: And they don't have people around them that educate them. 411 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:45,440 Speaker 1: They have access to the highest level of everybody, you 412 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 1: know what I mean, in terms of professors, experts and 413 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:49,359 Speaker 1: so forth. 414 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 4: But even being educated on something don't mean you have 415 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 4: an understanding of it to be able to express it. 416 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 4: And you don't want somebody to craft something for you 417 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 4: and just post it on your social media. And I've 418 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 4: been watching celebrities all week, you know, say some of 419 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:03,240 Speaker 4: the stupidest Like I saw Justin Bieber post pray for Israel, 420 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:05,239 Speaker 4: but he put up a picture of Palestine and had 421 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 4: to pray for Israel over the picture of Palatine. 422 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 2: So it's kind of like one of those things. If 423 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:10,200 Speaker 2: you really don't know what you're talking about, you probably 424 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:10,920 Speaker 2: should just sit it. 425 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:14,160 Speaker 1: Out, but you probably should learn about it, because I mean, 426 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 1: this is before Drake was a rapper, he was Jewish, 427 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:23,399 Speaker 1: Before Khaled was a super producer, he was Palestinian. Like 428 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:26,080 Speaker 1: this runs deep, you know what I'm saying that this 429 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:28,240 Speaker 1: is the essence of who they are, of their families 430 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 1: and their communities. Like Drake was raised in a Jewish community. 431 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 1: I'm sure his relatives feel a certain type of way 432 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:37,359 Speaker 1: about this, and look like Drake has taken all types 433 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:39,359 Speaker 1: of shots of Kanye, But when Kanye went on as 434 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 1: hitler Rance, Drake didn't say anything specifically about that, but 435 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 1: he takes shots at. 436 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:49,119 Speaker 3: Him, like if something happened with George Floyd or if 437 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 3: something happened in our community, and you say absolutely positively 438 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 3: nothing as a black person. 439 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:55,440 Speaker 2: Right, I don't think you have to, though. 440 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 4: I think if that's your thing, sure, but I don't 441 00:18:58,520 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 4: think you're obligated. 442 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:02,480 Speaker 1: You're not obligating, but I feel like you should say 443 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:06,200 Speaker 1: something in your position. And my example was Tupac. When 444 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 1: something happens that's close to his community, Pac was was 445 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 1: gonna say something with the one to one though, Well yeah, 446 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 1: but the caliber of you know, like where Drake is, 447 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:17,480 Speaker 1: where Tupac was something I. 448 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 4: Was about one on one as far as the type 449 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 4: of people they were, Like Tupac was socially conscious, you know, 450 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 4: like Tupac's mother was a radical, a black panther. 451 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 2: That's not I don't I got it. That's not I'm not. 452 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:31,359 Speaker 3: I don't really know what's going on over there to 453 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:34,439 Speaker 3: to speak on, but I get what you're saying right, 454 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:36,199 Speaker 3: because if you look at what happened in our community 455 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 3: during the time with George Floyd and people were protesting. 456 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 3: I think everybody that had a little bit of influence 457 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:45,120 Speaker 3: as something, whether it was Lebron James, whether it's a comedian, 458 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 3: whether it's a celebrity, whether it's an actor, all of 459 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:48,200 Speaker 3: these people always do. 460 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 1: Those Lebron has just chimed in, but I'm. 461 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 2: Not always chiming in on social issues. 462 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:55,920 Speaker 3: That's what he's again, Michael Jordan has right, and people 463 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 3: were saying Michael Jordan didn't so. 464 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 1: A criticism with him about that, Like I've chimed in. 465 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 1: I've chimed in about all these issues always. I chimed 466 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 1: in about George Floyd. I mean we donated to NAACP 467 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:11,119 Speaker 1: during the whole George Floyd, you know, riots and everything 468 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 1: else like that. Like I stand behind like I'm not 469 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:16,640 Speaker 1: just sitting there pointy fingers, like I put my neck 470 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:19,120 Speaker 1: on the line with saying things about it that other 471 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 1: people didn't like. But ultimately, I feel like when you're 472 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:25,680 Speaker 1: at a certain level, like you have a responsibility because 473 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 1: you have so many people like you could shift global 474 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 1: thought with just a simple statement. 475 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:36,679 Speaker 3: But doesn't agree Shift Globe they interview jo Rule about 476 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:37,240 Speaker 3: my statement. 477 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 4: I saw that, But when I saw your statement, I 478 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 4: thought of Joa Rue. I was like, I don't want 479 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:46,400 Speaker 4: to hear from drinking caller at a time like this, 480 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:50,159 Speaker 4: you know, But because to me, I'm like, what if 481 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:53,400 Speaker 4: drinking Kalen are doing things behind the scenes. I think 482 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:56,359 Speaker 4: that's more powerful than a tweet or an Instagram postry. 483 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:58,920 Speaker 4: You're not going to change people's minds on a seventy 484 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 4: five year old situation. 485 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:01,360 Speaker 2: How long had it just been going on for? How long? 486 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 1: Thousands of years? 487 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 2: Thousands? 488 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:08,400 Speaker 1: Yes, Oh shoot, I know thousands, Okay, No, I mean, 489 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm. 490 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:10,200 Speaker 2: Like seventy five. 491 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 1: Well, I mean it's been around for seventy five. But 492 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:14,440 Speaker 1: I'm saying, but there's been a confident that's been going 493 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 1: on forever. I mean, you could trace it back to 494 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 1: biblical times, is what I'm saying. It's a very complicated, 495 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 1: messed up situation, and I honestly my heart goes out 496 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 1: to both parties. 497 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 4: And that's exactly when I'm watching, when I'm at home 498 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:29,440 Speaker 4: watching seeing in an MSNBC, I don't know where people are from. 499 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 2: All I see is people heard. 500 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:32,119 Speaker 3: People to dead. 501 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 2: I don't know if it's I'm just like, yeah, this 502 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 2: is terrible. 503 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:38,919 Speaker 1: Twenty some Americans got killed in the process. I mean 504 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:41,119 Speaker 1: that they went to a festival and just open fired. 505 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 1: I knew that, killing hundreds and then and then you know, 506 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:48,400 Speaker 1: they went and start cutting off baby's heads. Like it's horrific. 507 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 1: It's horrific, you know what I'm saying. But but you know, 508 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:53,399 Speaker 1: but I'm not a fan of you know. I mean, 509 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:56,679 Speaker 1: I think a lot of people feel like, if you 510 00:21:56,680 --> 00:22:00,479 Speaker 1: say anything bad about Israeli government, you're anti Semitic. And 511 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:04,679 Speaker 1: I think that that's stupid. That's like saying you have 512 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 1: to support Trump or else you're anti American. No, you 513 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 1: could not like Trump and be pro American. You cannot 514 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:13,960 Speaker 1: like net Yahoo and be pro you know, Jewish. You 515 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:17,439 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Like the people are caught up 516 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 1: in this bullshit, you know what I mean. I mean, 517 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:23,200 Speaker 1: do you think that the people in Gaza are happy 518 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 1: that their buildings are being destroyed because Hamas chose to 519 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 1: do this? You know, crazy? You know attack Now people 520 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:35,439 Speaker 1: are homeless, people are you know, have no electricity. I 521 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 1: heard the main power plant just got taken out, you know, 522 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:40,960 Speaker 1: they're just trying to live their lives and now they're 523 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 1: caught up in a situation that other people have thrown 524 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:46,400 Speaker 1: them into and it's fucked up. And I don't want 525 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:50,360 Speaker 1: it to turn into a Jewish versus Muslim, Muslim versus 526 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 1: Jewish thing, because I have very close Muslim friends, you know, 527 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 1: shout out to Napoleon, you know, shout out to you 528 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 1: know a lot of people who I do was, who 529 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 1: I have a lot of love for. But yeah, man, it's said, 530 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:05,120 Speaker 1: I just. 531 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 4: Don't want us to have a because I already think 532 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:10,639 Speaker 4: America has like a healthy, unhealthy obsession with celebrity, and 533 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 4: like we're always looking for celebrity to fix. 534 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:14,720 Speaker 2: The world problems. 535 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 4: Like when I when I start, I promise you when 536 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:18,439 Speaker 4: I was the first time I heard about this, I 537 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 4: did not think of Drake A. 538 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 2: Col. 539 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 4: I went to people like scholars and academics, people I 540 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:26,359 Speaker 4: know who actually know things about this situation, and I 541 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 4: asked them, Yo, man, you know what kind of global 542 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:29,959 Speaker 4: impact is this going to have? 543 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 2: You know, what exactly is happening right now? 544 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 1: Right? 545 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 2: You know, that's the people I want to hear from. 546 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:37,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, But like Charlotte May, like before you were on 547 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:41,440 Speaker 1: the radio. You were black and you had to deal. 548 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 1: You have a black family and you understand black issues, 549 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 1: like you know, like you you could injure, like you 550 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:50,239 Speaker 1: could walk out of the breakfast club right now and 551 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 1: become a private citizen and never have to do anything, 552 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:55,120 Speaker 1: but you'll still be black, you know what I'm saying. 553 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 1: So it's like certain things should run deep with you, 554 00:23:58,760 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 1: you know, with everyone. 555 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:01,160 Speaker 4: We don't know if they don't though, Like we don't 556 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:03,200 Speaker 4: know if we don't know how Drake a Kala feels 557 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 4: about it, Like what do we want to Instagram. 558 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 2: Post a tweet. 559 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:07,399 Speaker 3: That's true because we don't know what they're doing. They 560 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:07,960 Speaker 3: could be behind it. 561 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:12,679 Speaker 1: Just you know, name me a more famous Palastinian than Cal. 562 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:14,960 Speaker 4: I'm with you, but I don't know how. I can't 563 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 4: say he don't feel anything about the situation because he didn't. 564 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:18,200 Speaker 1: Pot he's not, but he not speaking about it. But 565 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:21,400 Speaker 1: he's speaking about his new Jordans, you know what I'm saying. 566 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:28,359 Speaker 1: He's doing sneaker shopping right now. You know, Drake is 567 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:31,680 Speaker 1: doing this whole, this whole like literally writing paragraphs about 568 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 1: Joe Budden because his feelings were hurt or album criticisms 569 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:37,440 Speaker 1: so it's not like they're too busy. They have time 570 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 1: to put out things, you know, like for example, like 571 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:46,640 Speaker 1: Andrew Taate, uh was disparaging Canadian men. Did you see that? Yeah? 572 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 1: He was saying, oh, yeah, you know, you know what 573 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 1: I'm talking about it. He was saying, oh, a man 574 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:53,639 Speaker 1: from Canada, There's no such thing. Drake's responds. Drake responds, 575 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 1: green light on Andrew Tate. So so when Canada gets insulted, 576 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:01,120 Speaker 1: he needs to come up and say something. But when 577 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 1: his own community that he grew up with, his mother, 578 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:07,359 Speaker 1: his everyone's like that, he's remaining silent. 579 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 2: You want to put green light on a mass. 580 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 1: I do not want to do that, absolute absolutely, I'm 581 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 1: not going to stay behind that now Jesus. But I 582 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:18,399 Speaker 1: feel like he should say something. And I mean I 583 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:21,119 Speaker 1: mean clearly. I mean, Drake knows about me. He sees this, 584 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 1: you know he I'm sure this is honest radar. I'm 585 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 1: sure it's on Callent's radar, especially now you know what 586 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:28,440 Speaker 1: I mean that The tweet has like three million impressions. 587 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 4: But and by the way, it has only been what 588 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:33,439 Speaker 4: when did when did they yesterday? No, I'm talking when 589 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 4: did the festival happened a couple. 590 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:37,880 Speaker 2: Of days ago, a couple of days ago. 591 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:40,560 Speaker 1: Well hopefully hopefully. 592 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 4: Because people of that power and that you know, with 593 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:45,640 Speaker 4: that influence, to your point, they can't just randomly jump 594 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:47,719 Speaker 4: out there and post something. They want to probably take 595 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:49,919 Speaker 4: a beat and let's figure out something really. 596 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 2: Powerful to do. Like I heard Floyd Maywe was sending 597 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 2: like his gets. 598 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:56,399 Speaker 4: You know, that's that's something that takes thought, Like I 599 00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 4: want to I don't want to just post like everybody else. 600 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 2: I want to come out and actually do something for people. 601 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:02,680 Speaker 1: So Drake took a lot of thought when he was 602 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 1: talking about Joe Bunden being broken flying first class on 603 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:09,120 Speaker 1: special occasions. It took like it took like he has 604 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 1: a seven sixty seven jet and like, you know what 605 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 1: I'm saying, like people choose to do what they want 606 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:18,640 Speaker 1: to do, and I'm going to stand behind this. These 607 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,680 Speaker 1: are two very powerful voices and they have huge fan 608 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 1: bases behind them. And right now we're in a very 609 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:27,919 Speaker 1: divisive time where people are taking sides. 610 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 2: And which I don't understand, by the way. 611 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:33,200 Speaker 1: But this is this is the reality. People are taking sides, 612 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:36,480 Speaker 1: and you know, people are getting canceled and losing their jobs, 613 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:39,399 Speaker 1: everything else like that over it. And I'm not saying 614 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 1: to say ridiculous, crazy things, but you know, I put 615 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 1: out a tweet that basically said, I feel sorry for 616 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:48,400 Speaker 1: both you know, I really feel sorry for both parties 617 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 1: and the people they're getting caught up in it, you know, 618 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:53,360 Speaker 1: regardless of what my background is and something that could 619 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:55,679 Speaker 1: be said and put together by one of these guys 620 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 1: or both of them without getting canceled or ruining their careers. 621 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:02,679 Speaker 1: But I think ultimately, and in my tweet, I think 622 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:06,160 Speaker 1: they're too worried about staying relevant, staying hot, and not 623 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 1: getting a certain group of people not supporting them anymore. 624 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 1: That's what I think. 625 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:12,679 Speaker 4: Yeah, I just don't see what a drake a calid 626 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:14,720 Speaker 4: post is going to do to change anything that's going 627 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:15,400 Speaker 4: on over there. 628 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:18,440 Speaker 1: Did you see what John Lennon did when he was alive, 629 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:23,720 Speaker 1: John John Lennon did Leonard uh Peltier. I think John 630 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:25,360 Speaker 1: Lennon did a whole thing where he got behind it 631 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:28,680 Speaker 1: was like this Native American guy who was arrested for protesting, 632 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:30,479 Speaker 1: and there's a whole story behind it, and he did 633 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:32,360 Speaker 1: a whole concert behind him and everything else like that, 634 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:35,080 Speaker 1: and Leonard Pelte ended up being freed because at the 635 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:37,359 Speaker 1: end of the day, John Lennon was such a huge voice. 636 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:39,720 Speaker 4: That's a different circumstance though, Like that's an actual action. 637 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:41,199 Speaker 4: That's somebody who's in prison. I don't know what he 638 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 4: was in prison for. But you hold a concert, you 639 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:47,200 Speaker 4: raise awareness to it. Like, I don't see what could 640 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 4: Drake and Kalen do the start. 641 00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:51,440 Speaker 1: Drake did a free Larry Hoover concert. 642 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:56,879 Speaker 4: That makes more sense because that's an actual action, Like 643 00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,320 Speaker 4: that's something that raised awayness fort hopefully Larry who can 644 00:27:59,320 --> 00:27:59,640 Speaker 4: get free? 645 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:01,439 Speaker 2: Like what can they do to stop a thousand year 646 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:01,800 Speaker 2: old wold? 647 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 1: We can't stop? And you know, and he didn't stop 648 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 1: Larry Hoover from still being in prison, right, Larry Hoover 649 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,239 Speaker 1: still locked up, But he put his voice out there 650 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,640 Speaker 1: and he put his support out there, and it may 651 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 1: make a difference in the long run, you know what 652 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:16,680 Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, like these are powerful voices. 653 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,359 Speaker 4: You're just saying that they have these platforms you'd like, Yes, 654 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:20,920 Speaker 4: I understand what you're saying. 655 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:23,000 Speaker 2: I just I've never seen them do that, so I 656 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 2: don't know why they. 657 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 1: And they haven't. Yeah, and that's that's unfortunate. And this 658 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:27,879 Speaker 1: is why I think that as time goes on and 659 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:31,119 Speaker 1: we're talking about many years in the future, people are 660 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:34,359 Speaker 1: still talking about Tupac to this day absolutely because of 661 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 1: what he said, because of what he did and what 662 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 1: he stood for, and other people are just going to 663 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:42,880 Speaker 1: be pop artists that, you know, after they pass away 664 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:47,240 Speaker 1: and their fans eventually start to pass away, their relevance 665 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:50,160 Speaker 1: will pass away as well. They won't live on for 666 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 1: you know, eternity like the iconic people that I mentioned, 667 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:59,240 Speaker 1: like a Tupac or Bob Marley. But but they're they're 668 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 1: free and do whatever it is, you know, whatever they 669 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:04,120 Speaker 1: want to do. I'm just putting out my opinion on it. 670 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:06,400 Speaker 3: I want to go back for one second because I 671 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 3: just thought about something and maybe you can clear it up. 672 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:11,720 Speaker 3: So recently in the news, people are saying that Tupac 673 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:17,600 Speaker 3: excuse me, that Diddy was partly responded responsive for being 674 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:20,320 Speaker 3: killed and he lined pock up. Now with all these interviews, 675 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 3: have anybody said anything close to that. 676 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:29,160 Speaker 1: Or even Okay, So, according to Kifi d he had 677 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:34,280 Speaker 1: a meeting with Puffy and according to him, Puffy said, 678 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:36,880 Speaker 1: I'll give a million dollars to get rid of Tupac 679 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:39,280 Speaker 1: and Shug because they're putting all this pressure on me 680 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 1: and everything else like that. This is not my words 681 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:44,440 Speaker 1: as a Kifi's words. I remembering Greg Kating about it, 682 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 1: because he questioned Keify about this. From from Greg Kating's 683 00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 1: point of view, it didn't sound like, Okay, if you 684 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:53,520 Speaker 1: do this, I'm gonna give this money to you, and 685 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:55,040 Speaker 1: here's how we're gonna do and so forth. It was 686 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:58,280 Speaker 1: more of a frustration. It was like two people talking like, man, 687 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 1: I can't stand these guys. I'll do anything to get 688 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,200 Speaker 1: rid of him, you know. According to According to to 689 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:08,720 Speaker 1: Greg Katie, so the shooting happened. According to Kify in 690 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 1: our interview, he said that Puffy called him and said 691 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 1: was that us don't know if it's true or not. 692 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 1: This is this is strictly according to Kifi. Now when 693 00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 1: you look at when you go deeper into the story, 694 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,160 Speaker 1: Keify said that Eric von Zip, who was an affiliate, 695 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,480 Speaker 1: a New York guy who's an affiliate of Puffy, was 696 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:31,480 Speaker 1: the one that gave him the gun to do the 697 00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 1: shooting that night. And according to Kifi Uh, Puffy gave 698 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:41,160 Speaker 1: a million dollars to Eric von Zip to then hand 699 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:47,880 Speaker 1: over to Kify for the shooting. But you know, according 700 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:51,480 Speaker 1: to to the people involved, Eric van Zip kept the 701 00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:57,080 Speaker 1: money for himself. Now did this happen? Did this not happen? 702 00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:01,080 Speaker 1: I don't know. I interviewed Tk Kirkland, who was roommates 703 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:04,040 Speaker 1: with Eric von Zip, very close friends. When I asked, 704 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:06,080 Speaker 1: do you think this is probable? He said, knowing Eric 705 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:09,240 Speaker 1: von Zip, yeah, that's probably what happened. I remember I 706 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:11,760 Speaker 1: interviewed Mike Tyson and he talked about how him and 707 00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 1: von Zip essentially. 708 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:13,920 Speaker 2: His won Zip. 709 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:15,840 Speaker 1: Now, no, he's dead. He's dead, Okay, Yeah, he died 710 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:17,520 Speaker 1: of cancer some years back. This is why we're able 711 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 1: to kind of really talk about this. Mike Tyson told 712 00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:22,360 Speaker 1: me a story in our interview how he was hanging 713 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 1: out with von Zip and like Don King came up 714 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:27,480 Speaker 1: with a bag of money and Eric von Zip essentially 715 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:28,920 Speaker 1: robbed him for the money. They came hold on me, 716 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:30,840 Speaker 1: just hold on to this and kind of pushed Don 717 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:33,040 Speaker 1: King out the door, and they just kept the money. 718 00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 1: So Zip has a history of robbing people essentially, So 719 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:41,640 Speaker 1: did this happen? Did this not happen? Did Puffy really 720 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:44,440 Speaker 1: pay a million dollars? Did Puffy say that they want 721 00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:48,600 Speaker 1: him dead. It's hard to say, but twenty six years later, 722 00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 1: with Puffy having the best lawyers the money could buy, 723 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:54,840 Speaker 1: with a bunch of hearsay, with convicted felons and so forth, 724 00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:57,240 Speaker 1: I do not see Puffy getting convicted for any of this. 725 00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:59,440 Speaker 4: No, that's kind of crazy of people to be even 726 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:00,880 Speaker 4: putting that out out there, Like why are we Why 727 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,280 Speaker 4: people wishing that on Puff? Like, I didn't even you 728 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 4: asked him and I forgot about that yesterday. Yeah, I 729 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:09,400 Speaker 4: was like that got I even have Puffed that. I 730 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:11,960 Speaker 4: don't even know what doc I was referencing when I 731 00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:13,040 Speaker 4: when I asked him. 732 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,040 Speaker 1: That, Yeah, you asked him that, Yeah, bravo. 733 00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 2: He was like, we don't entertain nonsense. Remember, Yeah. 734 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:21,560 Speaker 3: All right, So what's what's next with lad TV? I 735 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:23,080 Speaker 3: see you stepping out of the rain. You're doing more 736 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:26,720 Speaker 3: than just interviews. YOU see you doing cars, automobiles, I 737 00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 3: see you doing houses. I see you doing a little 738 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:28,800 Speaker 3: bit of everything. 739 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,080 Speaker 1: Yeah. Man, we did a car feature and you're part 740 00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:35,800 Speaker 1: of your car collection. We did a feature on Boosy Estates, 741 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:37,880 Speaker 1: you know is eighty eight acre state. We actually have 742 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:40,640 Speaker 1: a whole feature we haven't put out yet on LaVar 743 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:46,680 Speaker 1: Balls House, and you know, for me, MTV Cribs was 744 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:50,040 Speaker 1: a very important show after my life because I grew up, 745 00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:52,440 Speaker 1: you know, as a middle class kid in the Bay Area. 746 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:56,240 Speaker 1: I didn't have, you know, access to mansions and everything 747 00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:59,000 Speaker 1: else like that, and seeing these celebrities and these houses 748 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:02,680 Speaker 1: was like it was so inspirational, inspiring me too. And 749 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:05,680 Speaker 1: I remember, I just thought about this recently about how 750 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:10,160 Speaker 1: my favorite episode on Cribs was Tommy Lee's house in Calabasas, 751 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:12,280 Speaker 1: and I remember just watching, I'm like, yo, this house 752 00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:16,280 Speaker 1: is beautiful, the area is beautiful. Fast forward to twenty 753 00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:20,360 Speaker 1: twenty two, I bought a house in Calabasas, not too 754 00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:22,840 Speaker 1: far from Tommy Lee's house, and I just thought about 755 00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:26,840 Speaker 1: how that show, you know, without me thinking about it, 756 00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 1: influenced me all these years to go accomplished, to go 757 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:33,080 Speaker 1: get that. And you know, when you look at the 758 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:37,040 Speaker 1: Boosy episode at Boosey Estates, like it's such a great episode. 759 00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:40,080 Speaker 1: I mean it's gotten like two million views. Boosey bought 760 00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:43,160 Speaker 1: eighty eight acres and built like a thirty thousand square 761 00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,960 Speaker 1: foot house and built like six other houses. There's like 762 00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:49,000 Speaker 1: five houses in the back for his kids with streets 763 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:52,160 Speaker 1: named after his kids and his dead homies, two basketball 764 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:53,200 Speaker 1: courts and everything else like that. 765 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:54,480 Speaker 3: And what Boosy's community. 766 00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:57,800 Speaker 1: He built a whole town around him, and like, you know, 767 00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:00,880 Speaker 1: you know real estate. Obviously, when I buy a house, 768 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:03,320 Speaker 1: and you bought a house, you probably think about the 769 00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:05,560 Speaker 1: resell value. You think I might not live here forever, 770 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:08,680 Speaker 1: So make sure I get the right area and I 771 00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:11,120 Speaker 1: could resell it at some later point if I choose 772 00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:13,120 Speaker 1: to go somewhere else or if I need the money. 773 00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:17,120 Speaker 1: Boosey was just all in. No One's gonna buy Boosy's 774 00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:20,520 Speaker 1: estate because it's so specific to what he did. I've 775 00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:22,520 Speaker 1: never seen anyone just go all in in their own 776 00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:25,759 Speaker 1: dreams and for their own family. It. I love it. 777 00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:29,719 Speaker 1: I absolutely love it. And it's just like and he 778 00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:31,360 Speaker 1: even said, like, yo, I got out of prison. He 779 00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:33,439 Speaker 1: had lost his house while he was in prison because 780 00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:35,439 Speaker 1: he had a mortgage. He lost everything, lost his house, 781 00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:37,200 Speaker 1: lost his cars, and he said, okay, when I get out, 782 00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:39,799 Speaker 1: he just bought the land. And he was like, yo, 783 00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,439 Speaker 1: I just built it week by week, twenty thousand here, 784 00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:45,279 Speaker 1: thirty thousand here. You know, the main house took a 785 00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:47,200 Speaker 1: while to build. Then he built this, and he built that, 786 00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:49,440 Speaker 1: and every time he would get show money or whatever else, 787 00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:51,000 Speaker 1: you just put a little something extra on it. Because 788 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:52,840 Speaker 1: they were like crews working on the house when I 789 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:54,480 Speaker 1: was over there, and it's just he's like, yo, if 790 00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:56,320 Speaker 1: I could do it, anyone could do it. And like 791 00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:58,560 Speaker 1: you look at the comments, like yo, I'm so inspired, 792 00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:00,000 Speaker 1: like so many people are like, I'm gonna do it. 793 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:00,719 Speaker 2: That's that. 794 00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:03,160 Speaker 3: That was actually before you're telling me this, that was 795 00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:06,279 Speaker 3: a dream of mine that I had. Uh, I can 796 00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:09,040 Speaker 3: never do it, But I always thought it'll be dope 797 00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:11,319 Speaker 3: if you can buy your own acres like this and 798 00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:17,000 Speaker 3: your family lives in your own town. I mean you can, 799 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:18,000 Speaker 3: but it's expensive in New. 800 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:21,480 Speaker 1: Jersey, New York. Yeah, you got to go down but. 801 00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:25,080 Speaker 2: New York Jersey. 802 00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:26,279 Speaker 3: But then also you don't know if your kids want 803 00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:27,719 Speaker 3: to live there, but I just do. I thought it 804 00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:30,040 Speaker 3: would be dope where you have your own community where 805 00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:31,520 Speaker 3: you know, he could put a gate on it and 806 00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:34,160 Speaker 3: that gate enters into Boosie's house, his daughter's house, his 807 00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:36,759 Speaker 3: son's house, his you know, sister in law's houses, but 808 00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:39,400 Speaker 3: where you have your own things. So it's like you 809 00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:41,799 Speaker 3: have your own community, your own basketball court, your own water, 810 00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:43,640 Speaker 3: so you don't have to supply, you don't have to 811 00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:46,359 Speaker 3: depend on anybody. And I just thought that was dope. 812 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:47,960 Speaker 3: I always thought that was amazing. Even if I could 813 00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:49,480 Speaker 3: buy every house on my block, where you know, I 814 00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:51,000 Speaker 3: could go next door to my kid's house, go next 815 00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:52,319 Speaker 3: door to my daughter, say, I just thought that would 816 00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:54,359 Speaker 3: be next across the street to mama house. Like, I 817 00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:57,040 Speaker 3: just thought that would be dope. So I commend Boosy 818 00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:57,480 Speaker 3: for doing that. 819 00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:00,680 Speaker 1: Hey, people talk about multigenerational wealth, but they don't usually 820 00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:04,360 Speaker 1: it's just a catchphrase. Like you're actually seeing him create 821 00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:08,640 Speaker 1: multi generational wealth. This huge property that's gonna be part 822 00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:10,439 Speaker 1: of Boosey's family and he has like I think nine 823 00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:12,319 Speaker 1: kids or something like that. It's like, yo, Like he 824 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:14,360 Speaker 1: has a big family and he has a place for 825 00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:16,879 Speaker 1: that family to live, and it's amazing. So we're gonna 826 00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:18,759 Speaker 1: do a lot more house features, you know, a lot 827 00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:22,400 Speaker 1: more house features just just to inspire people. Really, I 828 00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:22,799 Speaker 1: love it. 829 00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:26,640 Speaker 3: Well, we appreciate you for joining us. Blad TV, check 830 00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:27,960 Speaker 3: you out, follow you and all that good stuff. 831 00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:29,560 Speaker 2: What interview should we be checking out right now? 832 00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:34,399 Speaker 1: I got a Leader Cohen interview that's about to drop o. Yep, yep, 833 00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:38,400 Speaker 1: that's gonna be a big one. In the interview, actually 834 00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:41,319 Speaker 1: I asked him, I said, you're the most powerful person 835 00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:44,479 Speaker 1: in music. He was like, no, no, definitely not. I'm like, well, 836 00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:48,720 Speaker 1: the global head of YouTube music. YouTube is the biggest 837 00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,839 Speaker 1: music platform on earth, so by default, does that make 838 00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:55,080 Speaker 1: you the most powerful person in music. He's like, no, no, 839 00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:58,479 Speaker 1: absolutely not, absolutely not. But yeah, that's a very dope 840 00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:03,239 Speaker 1: interview that's coming out out this new phase. All Love 841 00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:06,000 Speaker 1: Love interview that's out. I mean, just a bunch of 842 00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:07,960 Speaker 1: stuff in the works, a bunch of stuff in the works, 843 00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:09,360 Speaker 1: but the leter Cone one is sort of a special 844 00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:10,759 Speaker 1: one that I've been holding on too for a little while. 845 00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:16,000 Speaker 3: Okay, Dja Blad TV, it's the breakfast Club. 846 00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:19,200 Speaker 1: Wake that answer up in the morning. 847 00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:20,360 Speaker 2: Breakfast Club