1 00:00:01,639 --> 00:00:05,160 Speaker 1: You're listening to Dracking Network. 2 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:10,879 Speaker 2: The John Nick and Kenny Florian Podcast. 3 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 3: John Annick and Kenny Florian. I love him. I can't 4 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 3: get enough of him. 5 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 1: That big job there Koktufia Crackers. 6 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 3: Rock. 7 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 4: I believe there are a couple of absolutely self involved. 8 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 3: Here are your hosts, John Nick and Kenny Florian. That's 9 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 3: song I'm. 10 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 4: Oh dot. 11 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:41,839 Speaker 3: I couldn't do it. 12 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:52,199 Speaker 2: I couldn't do it looking down love. It's the most 13 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 2: wonderful time of the year. You f C two ninety 14 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 2: six just days away. Great to have you back with us, 15 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 2: or with us for the first time, if that is 16 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 2: the case. It is episode four fifty four of the 17 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:08,040 Speaker 2: anticin Floran Podcast presented by DraftKings. John Annik here with 18 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 2: former three time UFC title challenger Kenny Florian. We have 19 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:17,319 Speaker 2: located the song Team Florian by Special Teams. That's a tease. 20 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 2: We're gonna play it on our award show coming up 21 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:23,319 Speaker 2: on Tuesday, January second. But you played this song for 22 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 2: me like fifteen years ago. Special Teams created this for 23 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 2: you and I hadn't heard it in probably ten years. 24 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 2: And when I heard that five foot ten, one point 25 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 2: fifty five full body chills buddy full body chills all right. 26 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 2: Coming up over the next thirty minutes or so, we 27 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 2: will talk to a good friend of mine, outstanding MMA 28 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 2: Better Hayden Iverson, who has emerged in the space over 29 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 2: last year or so. Also, Macy Barber will be with us, 30 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 2: or at least is scheduled to join us. But two 31 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 2: ninety six is just days away. We're gonna get kem 32 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 2: Flow's prediction coming up on the main event here in 33 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 2: a matter of minutes. But first I just wanted to 34 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 2: get your thoughts on this one thing that I heard 35 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 2: my fine broadcast partner Daniel Cormier say about Colby Covington, 36 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 2: and the theme is essentially that nobody has done more 37 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 2: with less than Colby Covington. And for me, you know, 38 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 2: I feel like there might be some truth in there, 39 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:15,639 Speaker 2: but largely I don't subscribe to that theory at all. 40 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 2: I think you can actually argue that it's somewhat insulting 41 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 2: to suggest that he doesn't have maybe the natural gifts 42 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 2: of some of these other guys. Now, Colby Covington has 43 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 2: talked of this third long since he was on a 44 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 2: soccer pitch at seven years of age, So that to 45 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:31,800 Speaker 2: me speaks to a natural gift that he has certainly 46 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 2: weaponized in mixed martial arts. Not to suggest Kenny that 47 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:38,920 Speaker 2: Colby Covington has not maximized his utility and become the 48 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:42,920 Speaker 2: best possible fighter and striker and wrestler in mma that 49 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 2: he can possibly be, but to suggest that no one 50 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 2: in the UFC history maybe has done more with less. 51 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 2: I think short changes Colby Covington the athlete. 52 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 3: A little bit. 53 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:54,080 Speaker 1: I think that's accurate for me. Chill Sunnen is the 54 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 1: guy that stands out in that regard, no disrespect, it 55 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:01,399 Speaker 1: just you know, was great on the mic. I think 56 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:04,639 Speaker 1: that's where, you know, maybe some of those comparisons between 57 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 1: him and Kobe lie as well. But I think that, 58 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:10,640 Speaker 1: you know, because Colby gets so much attention by the 59 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 1: things that he says, and maybe this is by design, 60 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 1: that his skills are underestimated a great deal. And of course, 61 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 1: the thing that really stands out if you've ever seen 62 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 1: a Colby Covington fight, is not only his conditioning, but 63 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:26,240 Speaker 1: his heart. He is not going to go away, He 64 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 1: is not going to give up on himself. He is 65 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 1: one of the toughest fighters that I have ever seen 66 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 1: compete inside the octagon, and I've seen a lot of fights, 67 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 1: so that that says a lot. You know, I don't 68 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 1: like handing that that title out easily, but Colby is 69 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 1: easily on that list. And you got to talk about 70 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 1: his wrestling skills, his ability to control you, his ground 71 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 1: and pound. I also think he's very underestimated as a 72 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 1: striker as well, and I think similar to what happened 73 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 1: to Connor McGregor in that fight against Habibnrmaga Metov, sometimes 74 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 1: you focus so much on stopping a takedown that you 75 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 1: leave yourself vulnerable on the feet because you don't respect 76 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 1: those striking skills. And I don't think Leon Edwards wants 77 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 1: to do that against someone like Colby Covington, who we 78 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 1: haven't seen fight in a long time. And Colby kind 79 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:18,160 Speaker 1: of very secretly will state training and stay evolving. Oh yeah, 80 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 1: and a lot of improvements can be made during that time. 81 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 1: So you know, if Leon is doing his homework and 82 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 1: as a professional like I think he is, I don't 83 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 1: think he's going to underestimate someone like Colby on the 84 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:30,159 Speaker 1: feet either. 85 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:33,040 Speaker 2: I know if I was an athlete, certainly fighting a 86 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:34,840 Speaker 2: guy like Colby Covington would bring out the best in 87 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 2: me in training camp, just in terms of the daunting 88 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 2: nature of a potential twenty or twenty two or twenty 89 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 2: five minute fight. But you're right, you gotta think Daniel 90 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 2: Valverti says, or Carnero. Everybody a MMM masters now has 91 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:47,480 Speaker 2: had a couple of years to work with Colby Covington, who, 92 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 2: in theory, with almost two years away, should present a 93 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 2: damn fine version coming up this weekend. Either way, something 94 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 2: special is going down at UFC two ninety six. Draftking 95 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 2: Sportsbook is helping you come out on top in this 96 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 2: epic encounter between Leon Edwards and Cobe Covington. Right now, 97 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:06,160 Speaker 2: Rocky the betting favorite minus one forty eight on DraftKings Sportsbook, 98 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 2: Covington can be had at plus one twenty four. 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I appreciate the time today. 128 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 4: Very good. 129 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:31,599 Speaker 3: Thank you for having me on. 130 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 5: A big fan of the show, big fan of both 131 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 5: of your guys works, and just an honor to be here. 132 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:39,840 Speaker 2: So I see you're repping the great tailor Mark Russell. 133 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:41,600 Speaker 2: Have you been fitted by that man yet or are 134 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 2: you just repping him loud and proud? 135 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 5: No. I mean he's a good friend of mine and 136 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 5: he's been wanting me to get tailored. 137 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 3: So I got to get in there. I just got 138 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 3: to do it. 139 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 5: But I keep having these busy schedules, don't get in there, 140 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 5: But I gotta get done. 141 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 2: Too, busy handicapping forty one UFC live events a year. 142 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:01,279 Speaker 2: So before we get into of your action for UFC 143 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 2: two ninety six, I guess I just was curious how 144 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:06,280 Speaker 2: you sort of got into the space. I know you're 145 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 2: living in South Florida now, but when did you sort 146 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 2: of start breaking down this wall and creating some traction 147 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:14,239 Speaker 2: in the MMA betting world. 148 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, so I started basically just watching other people do 149 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 5: it on TikTok on Instagram, and then I started doing 150 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 5: it myself because I'm like, I want to get more 151 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 5: into the betting space. I'm already putting all this time 152 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 5: in working on these plays and stuff. Might as well 153 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 5: push it out to people see if it sticks. And 154 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 5: eventually kind of found my niche more with the UFC. 155 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 5: I started out doing basketball, football and UFC, but I 156 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 5: found it UFC was a little. 157 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 3: Bit more fun for me. 158 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 5: You know, it's one card a week, it's not every 159 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 5: day like NBA or anything, a lot more time to prepare, 160 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 5: and just kept going on it, just grinding and basically 161 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 5: just putting my whole life's work. 162 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 3: Into it at this point. So it's been great. I 163 00:07:58,080 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 3: love it. 164 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 2: So I own the Twitter handle free play today, and 165 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 2: at one point I was going to try to put 166 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 2: a free play out there every day keV FLA, but 167 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 2: it's too much, like it's too much research. I've actually 168 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 2: softly suggested that my twin brother do it. But I 169 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 2: really enjoy your content and your energy to that end. 170 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 2: Before I get Ken flows prediction on UFC two ninety six, 171 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 2: you heard me mention the betting ons right now. Leon 172 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 2: Edwards minus one forty eight few days out Kobe Covington 173 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 2: plus one twenty four. Do you have any bets down 174 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 2: right now? And ultimately where will your action fall on 175 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 2: the main event at UFC two ninety six eight. 176 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:31,559 Speaker 3: I don't have any bets down right now. 177 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 5: This is going to be really tough one to lay 178 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 5: off of the plus money on Kobe Covington because there's 179 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 5: a lot of hype going on with him coming off 180 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 5: the layoff. 181 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 3: Donald Trump's going to be in the building. 182 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:45,320 Speaker 5: No, it's it's a fight that everyone is going to 183 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 5: be invested in because Colby Covington is fighting. We haven't 184 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 5: seen him in a long time. But when I think 185 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 5: about this fight from a logical perspective, I just don't 186 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:56,560 Speaker 5: see how I can pass up on Leonn Edwards at 187 00:08:56,760 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 5: minus one forty eight after he just be Kamar Usman twenty. 188 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 5: I actually like that he took the long layoff fought 189 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 5: in March. I know Kobe wanted to get it done 190 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 5: in like July. Thought that was smart for him to 191 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 5: not take it in July. Take this fight in December 192 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:14,960 Speaker 5: and get the time to recover, you know, don't get 193 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:18,439 Speaker 5: burnt out like we saw with the the Aljamein sterling 194 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 5: situation with Sean O'Malley, quick turnaround. I don't like that 195 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 5: for champions. So Leon Edwards coming into this one, if 196 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 5: he wants to win this fight, if you want to 197 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 5: beat Kobe, I think you got to be a good 198 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 5: counter striker, and I think Leon Edwards is a very 199 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 5: good counter striker because Kobe's gonna throw a lot at 200 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 5: you on the feet, going to obviously Chane Wressel. And 201 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 5: if Kobe wants to win this fight, he cannot let 202 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 5: up for one second, and he's got to make Leon 203 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 5: Edwards get to a point where he wants to quit. 204 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 5: But as we know, John Annix said, it's not the 205 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 5: cloth from which he has cut. I got Lean Edwards 206 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 5: winning this one. 207 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 3: All right? 208 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:56,680 Speaker 2: Good breakdown minus one forty eight right now for Leon Edwards, 209 00:09:57,480 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 2: So Ken Fill, there's a lot to unpack obviously on 210 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 2: this main event. I think I can say, even though 211 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:03,720 Speaker 2: I can't bet on the fight, that I would probably 212 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 2: be looking for other opportunities on the board. 213 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 3: Right. 214 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 2: You can argue our producer Cody Merrow is a little 215 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 2: bit underpaid relative to his value, and he's talking about 216 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:15,839 Speaker 2: a four figure wager on Colby Covington. I would look 217 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 2: for other opportunities on the fight card. Ultimately, we need 218 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 2: a prediction from you, Ken follow you like Leon Edwards 219 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 2: or Colby Covington here this weekend. 220 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 1: I certainly think Colby in this fight is an interesting 221 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:31,079 Speaker 1: underdog pick, and it's pretty close overall. I think that 222 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:34,079 Speaker 1: Cody's best bet as Hayden, you know, kind of broke 223 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 1: down here is you know, obviously it's going to be 224 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:38,080 Speaker 1: via his wrestling. 225 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 3: He needs to lead with that. 226 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 1: I think where he gets interesting is if he's able 227 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 1: to break through and make it a battle of wills, 228 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 1: not only not always an easy thing to do when 229 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 1: you have a fighter who has as skillful as Leon Edwards. 230 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:54,559 Speaker 1: And that's what Leon needs to do here. He needs 231 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 1: to lead with his skill and not even let it 232 00:10:57,200 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 1: go to you know, who's going to be the more 233 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:02,200 Speaker 1: durable guy, who's going to be the more conditioned guy, 234 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 1: Because if he does that, then it's anybody's fight. And 235 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 1: I like Kobe in that spot. He's about as tough 236 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 1: as they come. However, I do think Leon Edwards' skill 237 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:14,320 Speaker 1: is going to be enough on the feet with his 238 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 1: counter wrestling. I think if Kolbe can combine that crazy 239 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 1: pacing and get Leon Edwards tired, get him fatigued mentally, physically, spiritually, 240 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:27,320 Speaker 1: then he can get his wrestling to work. I just 241 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 1: don't think it's going to be enough here. I think 242 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 1: Leon Edwards getting all that cage time, getting those wins 243 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 1: over Kamara Uzman is going to do great things and 244 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 1: allow him to be that much better in this fight. 245 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 1: So I like Leon here. He's matured so much as 246 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:48,840 Speaker 1: a fighter, has only gotten better, and I think Leon 247 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:52,559 Speaker 1: isn't a great spot to shine, not an easy thing 248 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 1: to do against Kobe coming in. I think this will 249 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 1: most likely go to a decision because he's so durable, 250 00:11:57,200 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 1: But give me Leon Edwards here as well. 251 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 2: Isn't the only combat sports mind to suggest that an 252 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 2: athlete gets appreciably better when they break through and win 253 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 2: a championship. Certainly, I think we saw some of that 254 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 2: with Leon Edwards. But in the media that I've ingested 255 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 2: leading up to this fight, repeatedly, Leon has referenced the 256 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:21,080 Speaker 2: shape that he is in, like I feel like you know, 257 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 2: fear is maybe as a word that has a negative connotation, 258 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:26,839 Speaker 2: but the fear factor and going twenty five minutes with 259 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:28,719 Speaker 2: Colby Covington is such that I think it produced a 260 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 2: great training camp from Leon Edwards Hayden iverson. I know 261 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 2: you're going to have a lot of content for us 262 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 2: throughout the week at Hagi Picks on Instagram, anything else 263 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 2: that you like. At UFC two ninety six, we got 264 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:42,199 Speaker 2: a lot of big favorites on pay per view. We 265 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 2: got fourteen fights to close out the year, huge depth 266 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:47,560 Speaker 2: on the card, right, like Randy Brown and Muslim Salakov 267 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 2: is the first fight of the night. Right, Randy Brown's 268 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 2: a guy who's been featured on pay per view in 269 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:54,440 Speaker 2: the past. Any other plays or leans for you before 270 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 2: we let you fly? 271 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 1: Brother? 272 00:12:56,240 --> 00:13:00,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean this is a chalky main card, So 273 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:02,720 Speaker 5: I would honestly look for some type of props and 274 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 5: one that I actually kind of like. I don't know 275 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 5: if there's a prop out there yet on DraftKings, I 276 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 5: didn't see one out there, but shot cut by decision 277 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 5: because I think Steven Thompson is going to come out 278 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:17,839 Speaker 5: with his striking, and I think Shotcott is going to 279 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:20,679 Speaker 5: come out looking to strike, but I think he'll quickly 280 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 5: learn that he's got to look elsewhere because. 281 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 3: You don't want to stand and strike with Steven Thompson. 282 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 3: So I think Shotcock all wins by finish. 283 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:33,320 Speaker 5: Everyone's going to be looking for the finish in times 284 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 5: like this, I like to go the opposite. I think 285 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 5: the value would be on a shot cut by decision 286 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:40,839 Speaker 5: to get his first win by decision. He's already a 287 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 5: big favorite Stephen Thompson. We saw it against Gilbert Burns 288 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 5: against Baala Mohammed. He can get wrestled up and still 289 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:50,680 Speaker 5: survive and make it to the end of the fight. 290 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 5: It's only a three round fight. I think shot Coop 291 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 5: by decision at the value. 292 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 3: I don't know what the. 293 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:58,080 Speaker 5: Price will be yet, but I would expect it to 294 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 5: be a little bit juicier than and something inside the distance. 295 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 5: But Shotcap by decision looks pretty good to me. 296 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's interesting. Minus five twenty on the money line. 297 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:10,680 Speaker 2: You figure it'll be minus for sure by finish, but yeah, 298 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 2: maybe you get something close to even money on him 299 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:15,959 Speaker 2: by decision if that fight goes the full fifteen. All right, 300 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:17,840 Speaker 2: Hayden Iverson, You're going to see him on the Anaicafloring 301 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 2: podcast throughout twenty twenty four as well at Hey job 302 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 2: picks my man. Appreciate the time. Best of luck on 303 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 2: the board this weekend. And we will talk to you 304 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 2: next year. 305 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 3: Thank you for having me. Appreciate it very much. 306 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 2: All right, there he is Hayden Iverson with us here 307 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 2: on the Antiicmploring Podcast. Fascinating main event. We are going 308 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 2: right back to the guest line right now and joining 309 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 2: us as a fighter who really broke through as a 310 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 2: legitimate world title contender in twenty twenty three. Now the 311 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 2: number seven ranked flyweight in the world, the future. Macy 312 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 2: Barber is with us. Macy, how are you? 313 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 4: I'm doing great? 314 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 2: How are you doing better? 315 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 4: Now? 316 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 2: We appreciate the time, and I found myself going back 317 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 2: to the Amanda Heboss fight this morning just in advance 318 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 2: of our conversation and your post fight interview and everything else. 319 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 2: You know, it's hard to win five straight UFC fights. 320 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 2: I think Ken Flow's longest winning streak was actually six, 321 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 2: if I'm not mistaken. But I'd imagine like walking through 322 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 2: your life, even coming off of surgery, like everything is 323 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 2: better when you have this type of pro athlete momentum, 324 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 2: is it not? 325 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 3: Yeah? 326 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 4: I mean I love having the momentum. Obviously. It's something 327 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 4: that you know, when I actually had the first surgery, 328 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 4: like it was not planned to have a major surgery. 329 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 4: It was not planned to have a made a pretty 330 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 4: big loss, and it was not planned to have you know, 331 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 4: two back to back losses. But I honestly feel like, 332 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 4: even though I had the goal of being the youngest 333 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 4: champion in the UFC, that was such a huge blessing 334 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 4: in disguise for me. You know, I feel like at 335 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 4: twenty five years old, I have so much knowledge, so 336 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 4: much experience, and so much potential within the sport, and 337 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 4: I honestly feel like that has set me up for 338 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 4: this title shot, hopefully, you know, coming off of my 339 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 4: next win. 340 00:15:58,120 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 2: All right, So your last fight, I want to marinate 341 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 2: on this just for a second. Against Amanda Heaboss and 342 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 2: Jacksonville in June. It was the fight of the night, 343 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 2: first live event that I took all three of my 344 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 2: kids too, because it was happening earlier. Yeah, like the 345 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 2: most bloody event that I think I called all year. 346 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 2: And you factored into that, of course. But you had 347 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 2: a head kick at one point in this fight, and 348 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 2: that's what sort of set up the beginning of the end. 349 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 2: But like a lot of fighters, that could have been 350 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 2: a viral headkick knockout moment for you, right, even though 351 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 2: you got bonus that night, Like the technique was beautiful, 352 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 2: you landed it beautifully obviously on a fighter that can 353 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 2: take a shot. But I don't know, do you do 354 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 2: you recognize how quick you or how close you were 355 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 2: I should say to like a super viral moment there, 356 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 2: or am I crazy? 357 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 5: No? 358 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 4: I do, And I mean, honestly, that's something I worked 359 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 4: on with Danny Castillo. He was like, Dude, all I 360 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 4: see is a head kick. All I see is a 361 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 4: head cake. We're gonna We're gonna get over with a 362 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 4: head kick. And we drilled that so much. I drilled 363 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 4: out so much with like all the coaches, but I 364 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 4: remember Danny just sitting there the whole week too. He 365 00:16:56,680 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 4: was like, dude, we're gonna get a hell head kick knockout. 366 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 4: And honestly, I think that that's something that, like I 367 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 4: have great kicks, it's just one thing for me to 368 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 4: like really put the extra bit behind it, you know, 369 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 4: like I do have the ability to knock them one 370 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 4: out with the head kick. I just have to, you know, 371 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 4: go for it. And I feel like this fight really 372 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:15,639 Speaker 4: showed me, not just me, but showed a lot of 373 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:17,399 Speaker 4: people that, you know, I do have the ability to 374 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:20,440 Speaker 4: just like put those kicks up there, but now it's 375 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:21,919 Speaker 4: time to, you know, turn it up a notch. If 376 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:23,119 Speaker 4: I had turned it up a notch, we could have 377 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 4: knocked her out. And you know, it's a learning lesson. 378 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:29,399 Speaker 4: But honestly, I'm so grateful for that finish like it was. 379 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 4: It was a great one and it's something we plan for. 380 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:34,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, it Maysie. For me, it was one of the 381 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:38,680 Speaker 1: most impressive performances of your career. I think your ability 382 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:42,679 Speaker 1: to put it all together, like your range seemed different. 383 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:45,360 Speaker 1: You seem just so much more comfortable out there with 384 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:48,359 Speaker 1: your strikes and your range. What do you attribute to 385 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:52,399 Speaker 1: that to Is it the you know, the coaching change 386 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:55,239 Speaker 1: with the training approach, or are you just maturing as 387 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:57,640 Speaker 1: a fighter and putting it all together yourself. 388 00:17:58,320 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 4: I mean, I don't think you can attribute it to 389 00:17:59,880 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 4: just one thing. You know, you can't just be like, oh, 390 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 4: it's just the coaches. And I can't just be like, oh, 391 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:04,880 Speaker 4: it's all me. You know, it's not me, and it's 392 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 4: not just all the coaches. You know, it's it's us 393 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:11,359 Speaker 4: together as a collection. And honestly, I think that it's 394 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 4: just me. I honestly got so sick of these decisions. 395 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 4: You know, that's not the fighter that I came into 396 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 4: the UFC as. That's not the fighter that I ever 397 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 4: want to be on to be someone that goes out 398 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 4: and you know, it's always going for the finish and 399 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:26,679 Speaker 4: knowing that, you know, again putting the coaches in the 400 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 4: mix with me, you know, putting Danny Castillo, guilre Remy, 401 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:32,359 Speaker 4: putting rya favorite, all of the people that I've been 402 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 4: able to work with, Chris Holdsworth, Like, putting everyone together 403 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 4: has really helped me be able to not only just 404 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 4: like really let myself go and let myself shine the 405 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:47,440 Speaker 4: way I want to shine, but also just have that 406 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 4: like comfort when I walk in there. You know it's 407 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 4: it's it's the work that we put in. 408 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was evident. You have another tough fight against 409 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:59,119 Speaker 1: Caitlyn Chakegi and it seems like in March, how do 410 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:00,400 Speaker 1: you see that fight go and down? 411 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:04,359 Speaker 4: Honestly, same as last one. I'm going to get a finish. 412 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:06,359 Speaker 4: This is one that I am very confident in my 413 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 4: ability to finish. I know that she's coming off of 414 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 4: a bit of a layoff. I also am coming off 415 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 4: of a little layoff, just with a little injury, you know, 416 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 4: But honestly, this is the one, This is the one 417 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 4: that's going to really be able to solidify my chance 418 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 4: at a rematch with Alexa Grosso. 419 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 2: So your confidence is just undeniable at twenty five years 420 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 2: of age, your maturity, like you could do television. I'm 421 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 2: not going to take you down that road today like 422 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 2: you want to do the television thing. That world is 423 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:37,640 Speaker 2: going to open up to you as well. But can 424 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 2: you like quantify the confidence that you get from beating 425 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:44,160 Speaker 2: heboss and then take in to this next fight, because 426 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:46,880 Speaker 2: I know a lot of us were remarking about your 427 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 2: poison your confidence like going into that fight, but then 428 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:53,480 Speaker 2: you add this performance, like does it mentally take you 429 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:55,480 Speaker 2: to a different level? Can you quantify that? 430 00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 4: I think it does. I think that every single fight 431 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 4: that I've gone through has been able to take me 432 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 4: to another level. You know, some of them are going 433 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 4: to humble me and some of them are to you know, 434 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:09,120 Speaker 4: really helped me elevate. And this fight was one where 435 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 4: it's like, no, this is this is the beginning of 436 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:14,199 Speaker 4: our run. This is the beginning of our shot at 437 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 4: getting that belt. This is the beginning of you know, 438 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 4: I've had to work my way up, and I'm going 439 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 4: to keep talking about it because it's something I've had 440 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 4: to work my way back up to get that rematch 441 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 4: with Aleuxe Grosso, and it's just that much better that 442 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 4: she's in that title position. You know that she has 443 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:30,400 Speaker 4: the belt. You know, I've been on a five fight 444 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 4: win streak since that fight, and I think that the 445 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 4: fight with Amanta he Boss and the fight with Kaylan 446 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 4: Chikegan is going to be the ones that solidify me 447 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 4: in that spot for the rematch. 448 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:43,119 Speaker 2: No, I think the foundation is late, and I know promotionally, 449 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 2: mcmaynard and everybody else absolutely believes in you, and I 450 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 2: think for a lot of us when we saw you 451 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:50,440 Speaker 2: against Amanda, we thought for some for the first time 452 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 2: that we were looking at a future world champion. Now, 453 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 2: Amanda Heboss fought Caitlyn Chukegan last year, didn't finish her. 454 00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:00,440 Speaker 2: Does that film have any extra value given the common 455 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:01,119 Speaker 2: opponent or no? 456 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:04,960 Speaker 4: You know I think that. I mean I sat down 457 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:07,359 Speaker 4: and watched, we watched all of I sat down with 458 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:09,439 Speaker 4: Danny actually just the other day and we were watching 459 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:12,960 Speaker 4: the fights back. Caitlin is not finished an opponent. Her 460 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:16,439 Speaker 4: lack of ability to finish girls is what makes me 461 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:19,399 Speaker 4: that much more confident, Like she doesn't have that extra 462 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:22,639 Speaker 4: bit that you know you have with some of these girls. 463 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 4: You know, you're like, oh, we got to be careful 464 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:25,359 Speaker 4: of this, We got to be careful of that. And 465 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:27,920 Speaker 4: it's it's just being a little bit cautious and being 466 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:30,439 Speaker 4: aware of what we're looking for. Uh, there is no 467 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:32,480 Speaker 4: part of me that has any concerns with this fight 468 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:38,720 Speaker 4: and it just honestly gets me so excited. But with Amanda, 469 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:41,159 Speaker 4: he was they went to a split decision. You know, 470 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:42,919 Speaker 4: she went to a split decision with a girl that 471 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:46,639 Speaker 4: also went back down on one fifteen. Obviously I finished 472 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 4: Amanda and she also went back down to one fifteen. 473 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 4: So there's a little bit of a size difference, I think, 474 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 4: you know, in a power difference. But with me and Kaitlin, 475 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 4: there's a huge power difference. You know, I have the 476 00:21:56,880 --> 00:22:00,400 Speaker 4: power of the ability to finish these girls, and Caitlin's 477 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:02,680 Speaker 4: been broken before. So that's what I plan on doing. 478 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 2: You f C Flyway contender Macy Barber with us here 479 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 2: on the Anakin Florian podcast. So in terms of how 480 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 2: much better you can get right, you can look back 481 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 2: to maybe twenty nineteen Roxtan Modifair. You can look at 482 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 2: twenty twenty one the Alexa Grosso flight, and now look 483 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 2: at where you are at right now. I don't know 484 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:22,280 Speaker 2: if it's quantifiable in the gym week to week, day 485 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 2: to day, but like, how much better can you get? 486 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 2: And how far away do you think you really are 487 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:28,960 Speaker 2: from your fighting prime, your championship prime. 488 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:33,679 Speaker 4: I mean I can only get as good as, you know, 489 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 4: the work that I'm putting in. So I put in 490 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 4: work on a daily basis. I think that there's work 491 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:42,200 Speaker 4: to be done everywhere. You know, no one's at the top. 492 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 4: Even when they're at the top, they're still not at 493 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 4: their truest and fullest potential. You know, there's always so 494 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 4: much more that we can always do, and it's just 495 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 4: capitalizing on those moments. You know, there's things that I 496 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 4: can be doing, you know, the sacrifices that we need 497 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:57,159 Speaker 4: to make to be able to set ourselves apart. You know, 498 00:22:57,240 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 4: everyone in the top everyone in the top five, top ten, 499 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 4: and they're they're all putting in work. You know, we're 500 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:04,680 Speaker 4: all in the gym training. So it's gonna be those 501 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 4: little edges that really set me apart, and that's something 502 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:09,679 Speaker 4: that I'm willing to do. So I think that my 503 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:13,640 Speaker 4: potential in this spot and in the UFC is it's 504 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 4: just getting started. Uh, and then you know I'm here 505 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:18,960 Speaker 4: for I'm excited. 506 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:21,879 Speaker 2: No, it's it's exciting, and there's so many things that 507 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 2: are in your not too distant future. I know you 508 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:26,359 Speaker 2: and I have talked privately about a ufceen main event, 509 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 2: which potentially could be on the front of a title fight, 510 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:31,919 Speaker 2: but your title fight could come before. 511 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:32,399 Speaker 4: You know, before. 512 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, So who's a tougher matchup for you, Alexa Grosso 513 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:37,440 Speaker 2: or Valentina Shifchenko. 514 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 4: I think they're different style. They're different styles, so it's 515 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:45,199 Speaker 4: I don't know if it's like one tougher than the other. 516 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 4: I mean, obviously, Valentino was such a dominant Tampia for 517 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 4: so long. You know, a win over here would be incredible. 518 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:53,680 Speaker 4: But at the same time, I have that little extra bit, 519 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 4: Like I've said it before, it's like, do I want 520 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:59,119 Speaker 4: the title, Like if Valentina and Alexa Grossaer have their 521 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:02,280 Speaker 4: trilogy Fightina wins the belt, I still want my rematch 522 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:04,879 Speaker 4: with Alexa Grossa. That's where I'm at right now, and 523 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 4: I know that that would also give me the ability 524 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:08,720 Speaker 4: to fight for the belt. I'm not saying I don't 525 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:10,679 Speaker 4: want a title shot. I'm just saying that as an 526 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:13,120 Speaker 4: athlete and as a fighter, I know that I can 527 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:14,959 Speaker 4: finish her, and I know that in a five round fight, 528 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:17,680 Speaker 4: I would have won that fight, and I need that back. 529 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 4: That's something I'm like, I, as a competitor, need that 530 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:26,440 Speaker 4: fight back. So selfishly, I feel like the tougher fight 531 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:30,639 Speaker 4: for me, it's more of a mental thing. It's like 532 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 4: the tougher fight for me is the one of the 533 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:34,160 Speaker 4: AGROSSI because I'm gonna say that because that's the one 534 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:35,359 Speaker 4: I want. Does that make sense? 535 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, No, Crystal makes a lot of sense. All Right, 536 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:40,120 Speaker 2: A couple quick ones before we let you go. Your 537 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:42,720 Speaker 2: brother Wyatt had an amateur fight back in twenty nineteen. 538 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 2: What is his deal as a mixed martial arts athlete 539 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:45,440 Speaker 2: right now? 540 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 4: I wish he was being a fighter. I know, I've 541 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 4: actually in his room doing this, doing this right, But 542 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:57,439 Speaker 4: for him as a fighter, I mean, I don't know. 543 00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:59,440 Speaker 4: I mean he's twenty he's twenty one. 544 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 2: Now apology is wrong, says he's twenty two. 545 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:03,200 Speaker 3: It's fun. 546 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:06,400 Speaker 4: Oh my god. Probably twenty two. I can't be wrong. 547 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:09,359 Speaker 4: I have a lot of slings, but yeah, I'm hoping 548 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 4: to get him back in the gym. I mean, I 549 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:13,160 Speaker 4: know that he'll be around. He's been doing a lot 550 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:18,359 Speaker 4: of my videography, so putting in work good. 551 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 2: Well, he'll be sure to cut the clip about him. 552 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 2: Then hopefully he staying on them. Of your family, anyone 553 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 2: who has followed your career knows how invested your family 554 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:30,719 Speaker 2: has been, so i'd imagine it's been pretty exciting for 555 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 2: them to sort of witness this run and this rise 556 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 2: to undeniable title contention over the last two years. 557 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:39,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I know that my family's been here 558 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 4: for the whole thing, you know, and there's been some 559 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:44,439 Speaker 4: option there's been some downs. You know, the fight that 560 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:46,960 Speaker 4: I have with Rocks him on a ferry when I 561 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:48,440 Speaker 4: sat in the shower and my mom was trying to 562 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 4: help me get the blood out of my hair from 563 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:51,960 Speaker 4: a tourny like I had torn acl and I'm sitting 564 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 4: in the shower. We're just sitting there crying together. 565 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:54,240 Speaker 2: You know. 566 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:58,160 Speaker 4: It was a very like real and raw moment and 567 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 4: her and I just sitting sitting in there with her 568 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:02,240 Speaker 4: trying to wash the blood and just washing it pour 569 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:06,399 Speaker 4: down my body, just crying to now, you know, me 570 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 4: having the last win that I had and her being 571 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:11,360 Speaker 4: there and just being able to run up and give 572 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 4: her a hug, you know, honestly, like there's nothing that 573 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:17,639 Speaker 4: compares to being able to have your family there. And 574 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:19,720 Speaker 4: for all the fighters that get to have that, I mean, 575 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 4: they should soak it in, you know. And to all 576 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 4: the fighters that don't get to have that, you know, 577 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 4: I wish that they could because that's something that's it's 578 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 4: so so special and I'm honored, you know, I'm honored 579 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 4: that my family is such a big part of this. 580 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 2: That's great. That's really well put. And yeah, when you 581 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 2: hugged your mom in Jacksonville, it's like, hey, mom, I'm 582 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:38,720 Speaker 2: completely covering with somebody else's blood. That had to be. 583 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,119 Speaker 4: Everyone got some DC my mom. 584 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 3: Yeah. 585 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:46,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, if you want to follow Macy Barbara 586 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 2: on these social channels at Macy Barber, m A C. 587 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:53,960 Speaker 2: M A y Cee on the Macy and Barber Self Explanatory, Macy, 588 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 2: we appreciate the time very much. You know, we're very 589 00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:58,639 Speaker 2: excited about your future here on the show and beyond, 590 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:00,439 Speaker 2: and uh, we'll let you get back to everything that 591 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:02,200 Speaker 2: you got going on. Hope to see in Vegas soon, 592 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:04,119 Speaker 2: but get on the mend and we will see you 593 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:05,320 Speaker 2: in Miami, if not sooner. 594 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:07,120 Speaker 4: Thank you so much for joining us. Thank you guys. 595 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 2: I'll see you soon, all right, Macy Barbara with us 596 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:11,960 Speaker 2: here on the Ank and Florian podcast Fights. Caitlyn Shukegian 597 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:16,480 Speaker 2: might be Caitlyn's Sermonara. I'm not sure, but Caitlyn Shukegi 598 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 2: in UFC two ninety nine in March, Miami, Florida, USA. 599 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,440 Speaker 2: It's really amazing, Kenny, right. Macy Barber put a lot 600 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 2: of pressure on herself. I think early on suggested that 601 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:27,919 Speaker 2: she would become the youngest champion in UFC history. That 602 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 2: was the goal, and even though maybe she came up 603 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:32,480 Speaker 2: a little bit short as far as that initiative was concerned, 604 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 2: she has been absolutely awesome and she's on the short 605 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 2: list of the best flyweights in the world right now 606 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 2: and cannon ball coming for Alexa Grosso and everybody else. 607 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:45,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, And that would argue it's very difficult to get 608 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:48,200 Speaker 1: to a high level if you don't set those high 609 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:50,879 Speaker 1: goals for yourself, and I think that she's been putting 610 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 1: in work for a while. Sometimes it doesn't come together 611 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:56,680 Speaker 1: for a long time, didn't for me, and I think 612 00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 1: that time is right now for her. 613 00:27:58,600 --> 00:27:59,919 Speaker 3: That's the most important part, that it. 614 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:02,680 Speaker 1: Is coming together, and it's coming together at a great 615 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:04,359 Speaker 1: point in her life and in her career. 616 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:06,879 Speaker 2: All right, And last thing I'll say. You may have 617 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 2: heard us talk earlier in the week about Blow Muhammad, 618 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:11,800 Speaker 2: our good friend weighing in as the backup for Leon 619 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:15,879 Speaker 2: Edwards and Kolby Covington. And despite the personal connection to Blal, 620 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:18,240 Speaker 2: I feel connected to all of these athletes Leon, of 621 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:22,640 Speaker 2: course for obvious reasons, right, But I was very excited 622 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 2: when I got this news several weeks ago, because it's 623 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,719 Speaker 2: one thing to be like a last minute, short notice 624 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:30,240 Speaker 2: backup for a title fight, Kenny. It's another thing to 625 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 2: get word promotionally, you know, five six weeks out that 626 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:36,479 Speaker 2: you're going to be the guy. I think it speaks 627 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 2: to Dana White, you know, sticking by his guarantee that 628 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 2: the winner of Gilbert Burns and Blow Muhammed would fight 629 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 2: for the title. And even though Leon is talking a 630 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:46,600 Speaker 2: lot this week about one hundred and eighty five pounds, 631 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 2: there's a history between Leon and Blow Muhammed and even 632 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:53,360 Speaker 2: Shafcott rock MANIV was putting Balal over just in terms 633 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 2: of his candidacy, So I think we'd all agree it's 634 00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:59,240 Speaker 2: nice to see the UFC acknowledge blow Muhammad as the 635 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:01,480 Speaker 2: true number one can by making him the backup coming 636 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 2: up here in a few days. 637 00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's an opportunity, right, Nothing's guaranteed with way ins 638 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:08,720 Speaker 1: and things like that, but I do think he's in 639 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:12,200 Speaker 1: a great spot, has that opportunity to maybe step in here, 640 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 1: was given the heads up so he can get some 641 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 1: training in, get his weight down, all that stuff, and yeah, 642 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:21,320 Speaker 1: I think we'll probably. I think both those guys have 643 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 1: been pretty reliable as far as weighing in Edwards and Covington. 644 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 1: But just the fact that Balaal does have that opportunity 645 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:30,400 Speaker 1: I think is a good sign and I think we 646 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 1: should see him fight one of those guys in the 647 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 1: near future. 648 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:35,920 Speaker 2: I'm curious to sit down with Leon Edwards in our 649 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 2: fighter meeting because he has been pretty dismissive of Blao 650 00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 2: Muhammad leading up to the fight, whereas in times prior 651 00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:47,760 Speaker 2: he has sort of promoted Billow's candidacy as the number 652 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 2: one contender. So we'll see where Leon stands, but of 653 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,920 Speaker 2: course his focus is Colby Covington this weekend and all 654 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:54,680 Speaker 2: of your focus should, of course be on pay per 655 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:56,720 Speaker 2: view hopefully with us. Thank you to our guest Hayden 656 00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 2: Iverson and Macy Barber. We are back with you coming 657 00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:03,880 Speaker 2: up on December eighteenth. I believe that Monday we will 658 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:06,960 Speaker 2: recap everything that was UFC two ninety six, the final 659 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 2: card of the year. We'll also set the table for 660 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:11,880 Speaker 2: our award show coming up on January second. 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